From martin.thomson@gmail.com Mon Oct 1 17:14:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8046211E8162 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:14:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.703 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.703 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.104, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dJjmf4ABAwZa for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com (mail-lb0-f172.google.com [209.85.217.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8C811E815A for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbok13 with SMTP id k13so5170814lbo.31 for ; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:13:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BYSXaGfjxZiqnityukOihL5zAs+CBlGILlW77RyywGs=; b=deMRazaxzhnMLxPIDsJMSLUaUdmHwyVCVOKaBYNEu2nHjAKzn8Aj52ShhY6erb25Gt OUfeU+Dd0IVpzsuz3fETjw8k+k026MBSRWwrhj/cbIOZljStHn2Fd7lU3TFOg1nJzMdw NqbtgsmU4rQrmf04NHOLCECSLaEFBF2G/NSMqwsOZlwnP4b4BU7Ihyr3+2Nbg/r6ljDI wLSutQUXb97uZKGTlt3aPhpWvyQOlXGtu8PZCytA6mScTNMLpeAD1eVppIqnVM8gLPtj Iy9N8Fde2C+RAzgxE/jDBcCaxUTk3RVnE8MGbagY3RvorXHKHe/qv9Nd3c4JgnQ+YWdk BDKQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.48.102 with SMTP id k6mr12940107lan.12.1349136839659; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.83.2 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:13:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: Martin Thomson To: atoca@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: [atoca] Call for adoption: draft-barnes-atoca-escape X-BeenThere: atoca@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for the IETF Authority-to-Citizen Alert \(atoca\) working group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 00:14:01 -0000 As we agreed, this is a two week call for adoption of draft-barnes-atoca-escape for our working group milestone. This call will end on Friday, the 12th day of October at 12:00 UTC. Expect a conclusion shortly thereafter so that the authors have time to meet the draft submission deadlines ahead of the next meeting. To aid with the process, and to help the authors, choosing from the following options would help: - adopt: this draft is a good basis for continued work - needs work: the following issues must be addressed before this draft could be adopted (please enumerate clearly the things that they believe the draft needs to address in order to get their approval) - no: this draft is not a suitable basis for continued work Note that the authors may update the draft during this call. Allowances will be made for changes of mind. From martin.thomson@gmail.com Tue Oct 9 11:01:12 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E3411E8135 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:01:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.312, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PJyNHyTOvpM0 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-f178.google.com (mail-wi0-f178.google.com [209.85.212.178]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BFF11E810D for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f178.google.com with SMTP id hr7so4344609wib.13 for ; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:01:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=I9BQLJkU98v1ZeoAT3l2yz76c6bOLehErTvIsWRUZOk=; b=fRuclpuzYUcFDWAqc1g57K5KBZZR28CvKpERivFkKuy5BLPhHOoHk/PQbFhshDqC/e kpSUa1gLzqRBkZpvvTo+o09lseHVCB2fwVKVcbw3rWBszqsFnnQ2uw5+utkLKHDUmDUf cY+xENkpP7boZgO+LekN00siF7Ey1fvQL8ELsChMxDY8LT84Y3O8xT4VHaupNPFnmn+o SMFmMkkxTzEUxgpnVAHzpsdiRdgX1scDNTny1fyqBOdMJknT+a26XzKWI4F/YahGqJrW 09U8arMj4/IV7N+Cfr65m091wTzKY6M6CFKjA/5jfJDVoVgvKC/baMWUPZ1AoA2KRRcG enyQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.209.40 with SMTP id r40mr12855332weo.144.1349805670414; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:01:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.96.9 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:01:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:01:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Martin Thomson To: atoca@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [atoca] Call for adoption: draft-barnes-atoca-escape X-BeenThere: atoca@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for the IETF Authority-to-Citizen Alert \(atoca\) working group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:01:12 -0000 Reminder: This call ends in three days. On 1 October 2012 17:13, Martin Thomson wrote: > As we agreed, this is a two week call for adoption of > draft-barnes-atoca-escape for our working group milestone. > > This call will end on Friday, the 12th day of October at 12:00 UTC. > Expect a conclusion shortly thereafter so that the authors have time > to meet the draft submission deadlines ahead of the next meeting. > > To aid with the process, and to help the authors, choosing from the > following options would help: > - adopt: this draft is a good basis for continued work > - needs work: the following issues must be addressed before this > draft could be adopted (please enumerate clearly the things that they > believe the draft needs to address in order to get their approval) > - no: this draft is not a suitable basis for continued work > > Note that the authors may update the draft during this call. > Allowances will be made for changes of mind. From br@brianrosen.net Tue Oct 9 11:07:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83ED41F0422 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:07:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.426 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.426 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.478, BAYES_05=-1.11, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u+jmRQ4HHteE for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mm2.idig.net (unknown [70.33.247.98]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE39911E80C5 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:07:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brianrosen.net; s=default; h=To:References:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:Date:In-Reply-To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type; bh=PE/xhm9u8jYhA0nHm4o85fA0lcUFcKGw5KmPENA9//8=; b=FsaC8k0USfPAjme6bgYxrjWOmRfVBqzT+sHu91C/Hgj3lTH+oBsYuLnCsj7Z7omWn8AdMyQ1WwYXcX3jTFknnseLY14msbDVqFc19xxApsORbYNVa4DD/clprakk+rsW; Received: from neustargw.va.neustar.com ([209.173.53.233]:21758 helo=[192.168.133.69]) by mm2.idig.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1TLeDI-0000bt-Ct; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:07:28 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) From: Brian Rosen In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 14:07:18 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <9AB96500-F8EC-46C1-80EA-FDE48AF86EF5@brianrosen.net> References: To: Martin Thomson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - mm2.idig.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - brianrosen.net Cc: atoca@ietf.org Subject: Re: [atoca] Call for adoption: draft-barnes-atoca-escape X-BeenThere: atoca@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for the IETF Authority-to-Citizen Alert \(atoca\) working group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:07:35 -0000 I think the draft is a good start and would approve going forward with it. Brian On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > Reminder: This call ends in three days. > > On 1 October 2012 17:13, Martin Thomson wrote: >> As we agreed, this is a two week call for adoption of >> draft-barnes-atoca-escape for our working group milestone. >> >> This call will end on Friday, the 12th day of October at 12:00 UTC. >> Expect a conclusion shortly thereafter so that the authors have time >> to meet the draft submission deadlines ahead of the next meeting. >> >> To aid with the process, and to help the authors, choosing from the >> following options would help: >> - adopt: this draft is a good basis for continued work >> - needs work: the following issues must be addressed before this >> draft could be adopted (please enumerate clearly the things that they >> believe the draft needs to address in order to get their approval) >> - no: this draft is not a suitable basis for continued work >> >> Note that the authors may update the draft during this call. >> Allowances will be made for changes of mind. > _______________________________________________ > atoca mailing list > atoca@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/atoca From achi@bbn.com Tue Oct 9 11:29:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A5721F8857 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:29:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.590, BAYES_05=-1.11, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ix0dhVNaL8uX for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDE321F8877 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 11:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp89-089-010.bbn.com ([128.89.89.10]:63341 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtp (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TLeYU-000N9v-7G; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:29:22 -0400 Message-ID: <50746D01.1050606@bbn.com> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:29:21 -0400 From: Andrew Chi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Thomson References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: atoca@ietf.org Subject: Re: [atoca] Call for adoption: draft-barnes-atoca-escape X-BeenThere: atoca@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for the IETF Authority-to-Citizen Alert \(atoca\) working group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:29:29 -0000 On 10/9/2012 2:01 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > Reminder: This call ends in three days. > FYI, a revision is in the works that (1) updates alert-token with iterative hashes (like OTP) to simplify distribution, and (2) says that the the outer wrapper provides authentication only, while the inner CAP document must provide any additional info necessary for determining general applicability (location, authorization/jurisdiction, etc.). In any case, please comment if there are any issues that would prevent this document from being a reasonable starting point. -Andrew From rbarnes@bbn.com Wed Oct 10 08:42:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3B821F864A for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:42:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.516 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.516 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.083, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gpGclQh3iNYk for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.0.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9799121F87CC for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ros-dhcp192-1-51-103.bbn.com ([192.1.51.103]:53224) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TLyQI-0002uM-OC for atoca@ietf.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:42:14 -0400 From: Richard Barnes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:42:14 -0400 References: <20121010153832.29406.41111.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: atoca@ietf.org Message-Id: <545B494D-DE4F-4CD2-AB37-E5CC312EF13C@bbn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Subject: [atoca] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-atoca-escape-02.txt X-BeenThere: atoca@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for the IETF Authority-to-Citizen Alert \(atoca\) working group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:42:17 -0000 This version attempts to address some of the feedback from the initial = round of comments: -- Changes to one-time passwords for alert tokens -- Clarifies provisioning requirements -- Cautions against accepting alerts based on alert token alone (no = signature) -- Fills in security considerations (including notes on XML-DSig vs. = S/MIME) Begin forwarded message: > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-barnes-atoca-escape-02.txt > Date: October 10, 2012 11:38:32 AM EDT > To: rbarnes@bbn.com >=20 >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-barnes-atoca-escape-02.txt > has been successfully submitted by Richard Barnes and posted to the > IETF repository. >=20 > Filename: draft-barnes-atoca-escape > Revision: 02 > Title: Encoding of Secure Common Alert Protocol = Entities (ESCAPE) > Creation date: 2012-10-09 > WG ID: Individual Submission > Number of pages: 19 > URL: = http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-barnes-atoca-escape-02.txt > Status: = http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barnes-atoca-escape > Htmlized: = http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-barnes-atoca-escape-02 > Diff: = http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-barnes-atoca-escape-02 >=20 > Abstract: > Recipients of emergency alerts need to be able to verify that an > alert they receive was issued by an authorized source. The Common > Alerting Protocol (CAP) provides a standard way of encoding alert > information. This document describes a security wrapper for Common > Alerting Protocol objects to allow alerts to be signed by alert > originators. >=20 > Please send feedback to the atoca@ietf.org mailing list. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF Secretariat >=20 From rbarnes@bbn.com Wed Oct 10 08:43:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6677A21F85F4 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:43:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CHGyvOHp1x0k for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.1.81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F8221F85F0 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 08:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ros-dhcp192-1-51-103.bbn.com ([192.1.51.103]:53252) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1TLyRU-0004cx-Ch; Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:43:28 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Richard Barnes In-Reply-To: <9AB96500-F8EC-46C1-80EA-FDE48AF86EF5@brianrosen.net> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:43:27 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6AADDA6E-7724-49B5-8ADA-5A62770ACDD2@bbn.com> References: <9AB96500-F8EC-46C1-80EA-FDE48AF86EF5@brianrosen.net> To: Brian Rosen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Cc: atoca@ietf.org Subject: Re: [atoca] Call for adoption: draft-barnes-atoca-escape X-BeenThere: atoca@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for the IETF Authority-to-Citizen Alert \(atoca\) working group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:43:35 -0000 For what it's worth, I also think this draft is a good start. On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:07 PM, Brian Rosen wrote: > I think the draft is a good start and would approve going forward with = it. >=20 > Brian > On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Martin Thomson = wrote: >=20 >> Reminder: This call ends in three days. >>=20 >> On 1 October 2012 17:13, Martin Thomson = wrote: >>> As we agreed, this is a two week call for adoption of >>> draft-barnes-atoca-escape for our working group milestone. >>>=20 >>> This call will end on Friday, the 12th day of October at 12:00 UTC. >>> Expect a conclusion shortly thereafter so that the authors have time >>> to meet the draft submission deadlines ahead of the next meeting. >>>=20 >>> To aid with the process, and to help the authors, choosing from the >>> following options would help: >>> - adopt: this draft is a good basis for continued work >>> - needs work: the following issues must be addressed before this >>> draft could be adopted (please enumerate clearly the things that = they >>> believe the draft needs to address in order to get their approval) >>> - no: this draft is not a suitable basis for continued work >>>=20 >>> Note that the authors may update the draft during this call. >>> Allowances will be made for changes of mind. >> _______________________________________________ >> atoca mailing list >> atoca@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/atoca >=20 > _______________________________________________ > atoca mailing list > atoca@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/atoca From mamille2@cisco.com Tue Oct 16 12:01:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: atoca@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C0E1F0C60 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:01:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iTyZs30C6yq6 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:01:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com [173.37.86.73]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2326F1F0C8F for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:01:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5188; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1350414097; x=1351623697; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=bn7F3ZzjFaIZRaxkeSUgWUn1dktQmb9D2TbgizFB1kY=; b=hQzPDHvSDeLdeqYuFTXAdSsTsLCZWXgs/YaJ7aZJQ9l4uFT/O5eIRZUl a/pNYo5VXY/1eSAl/Kfv69woUsN+MKCFZLf+OE93mvvkHVeDZbE3uBO5Y PLt2Tq/1TngS7OyTv1KBc+MtRRYHXLeXHOm/NfHmW5v7EPW1IFUSNBdRK M=; X-Files: smime.p7s : 2214 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EALStfVCtJXG8/2dsb2JhbABFwAqBCIIgAQEBAwEBAQEPAQpRCwULAgEIDgoKJAIfBgslAgQOBQgGFIdQAwkGC5p7j1yGbg2JUASKaGeFXWADjm2BIIItgVyMeYMjgWuCbYIX X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,595,1344211200"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="132225409" Received: from rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com ([173.37.113.188]) by rcdn-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Oct 2012 19:01:34 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com [173.36.12.84]) by rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9GJ1Yp9007548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:01:34 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x11.cisco.com ([169.254.6.240]) by xhc-aln-x10.cisco.com ([173.36.12.84]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:01:34 -0500 From: "Matt Miller (mamille2)" To: Brian Rosen Thread-Topic: [atoca] Call for adoption: draft-barnes-atoca-escape Thread-Index: AQHNoDLWvPyFrX3WL0yWu+foGjoM7Jexo4wAgAABtgCACw+HAA== Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:01:34 +0000 Message-ID: References: <9AB96500-F8EC-46C1-80EA-FDE48AF86EF5@brianrosen.net> In-Reply-To: <9AB96500-F8EC-46C1-80EA-FDE48AF86EF5@brianrosen.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [64.101.72.40] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.1135-7.000.1014-19276.004 x-tm-as-result: No--38.176700-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_91866864-6E7B-4CA6-AFF9-1BC1B26E0177"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "" Subject: Re: [atoca] Call for adoption: draft-barnes-atoca-escape X-BeenThere: atoca@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for the IETF Authority-to-Citizen Alert \(atoca\) working group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:01:41 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_91866864-6E7B-4CA6-AFF9-1BC1B26E0177 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [ Thought I sent this earlier ] I also think this worth adopting. - m&m Matt Miller - Cisco Systems, Inc. On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:07, Brian Rosen wrote: > I think the draft is a good start and would approve going forward with = it. >=20 > Brian > On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:01 PM, Martin Thomson = wrote: >=20 >> Reminder: This call ends in three days. >>=20 >> On 1 October 2012 17:13, Martin Thomson = wrote: >>> As we agreed, this is a two week call for adoption of >>> draft-barnes-atoca-escape for our working group milestone. >>>=20 >>> This call will end on Friday, the 12th day of October at 12:00 UTC. >>> Expect a conclusion shortly thereafter so that the authors have time >>> to meet the draft submission deadlines ahead of the next meeting. >>>=20 >>> To aid with the process, and to help the authors, choosing from the >>> following options would help: >>> - adopt: this draft is a good basis for continued work >>> - needs work: the following issues must be addressed before this >>> draft could be adopted (please enumerate clearly the things that = they >>> believe the draft needs to address in order to get their approval) >>> - no: this draft is not a suitable basis for continued work >>>=20 >>> Note that the authors may update the draft during this call. >>> Allowances will be made for changes of mind. >> _______________________________________________ >> atoca mailing list >> atoca@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/atoca >=20 > _______________________________________________ > atoca mailing list > atoca@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/atoca --Apple-Mail=_91866864-6E7B-4CA6-AFF9-1BC1B26E0177 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.83.2 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:05:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: Martin Thomson To: atoca@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: [atoca] Results from consensus call X-BeenThere: atoca@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for the IETF Authority-to-Citizen Alert \(atoca\) working group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:05:41 -0000 It appears that there is some support for adoption of draft-barnes-atoca-escape. The view of the chairs is that the three people who expressed their support are not sufficient to justify continuing the working group. We still have a meeting scheduled at Atlanta. If that meeting goes ahead, it is my expectation that this will be the last for this working group. The chairs will continue discussions with our Area Directors and advise the group of any change.