From keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com Wed Nov 7 07:38:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2703921F8A3E for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:38:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -109.804 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.804 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.445, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SRYDLXdzlr2S for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail3.alcatel.fr (smail3.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFAD21F8BAC for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 07:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.63]) by smail3.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id qA7FakUY001982 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:38:23 +0100 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSC3.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.46]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB03.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.63]) with mapi; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:38:02 +0100 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: "avtext@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:38:01 +0100 Thread-Topic: Slides are available in meeting materials page Thread-Index: Ac28/EwrYXDgY0/kQAyXcSL8TkaKzw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.83 Subject: [avtext] Slides are available in meeting materials page X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 15:38:29 -0000 (As WG cochair) The slides are now available at=20 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/materials.html=20 Note there has been a minor revision to the agenda at the same time - dupli= cation slide is now in the chairs summary. Regards Keith From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Wed Nov 7 13:33:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F4821F8A3E for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:33:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.16 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.16 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.089, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1nTEJKStDcS6 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:33:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw1.ericsson.se (mailgw1.ericsson.se [193.180.251.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB8521F8A14 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 13:33:54 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-b7f1e6d000002d2c-46-509ad3c1fff4 Received: from esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw1.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id F6.16.11564.1C3DA905; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 22:33:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.88) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.1; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 22:33:52 +0100 Message-ID: <509AD3BE.5040703@ericsson.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:33:50 -0500 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "avtext@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates@tools.ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrNJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvje7By7MCDObtF7T4eO8Gq8WlY4UO TB5Llvxk8vhy+TNbAFMUl01Kak5mWWqRvl0CV8bMHraCT2wVfzqmsjQwnmHtYuTkkBAwkZiz /xwThC0mceHeerYuRi4OIYGTjBIdZ08xQzjLGCUarp0D6+AV0JaYuGYOG4jNIqAi0X30NVic TcBC4uaPRrC4qECwxJ5jaxkh6gUlTs58wgJiiwgkSpzc8w6sRljATuL8oQPMEJslJd6+fwVm MwvoSUy52sIIYctLNG+dDRYXAtrb0NTBOoGRfxaSsbOQtMxC0rKAkXkVI3tuYmZOernhJkZg gB3c8lt3B+OpcyKHGKU5WJTEebmS9vsLCaQnlqRmp6YWpBbFF5XmpBYfYmTi4JRqYOx7rpqW Fnr4gUNtZ+zDGItAm8OL/1wp2ukYbn3om86su6Kbzml7cBvqBKy4Fiw2Ubss9uL5w3F/tu/x 1pQNu1X0WOjlK51b+89WhFmolclnt10t+bR5yuZp+qr9EXMaHYws7LcsfvSIfar8CjHOL5cT JG77ae0TuWq++8sFFeUHednXLP0qo5VYijMSDbWYi4oTAQCLuVD+AQAA Subject: [avtext] Comments on draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-06 X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 21:33:55 -0000 Hi, The two minor issues I have spotted in addition to the table discussion are the following. 1. Section 4.2, the page currently splits the last formula onto two pages. That is very unfortunate. 2. Section 4.2: " Note that in all the formulas, capture_time is the first instant the new timestamp rate is used." I think "capture_time" should be "capture_start" in the above sentence. Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ron.even.tlv@gmail.com Wed Nov 7 16:36:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3547F21F88E9 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:36:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.68 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.68 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.918, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IXY4Ke0R7lpW for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F59621F86E4 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id ro8so1681039pbb.31 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:36:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=2r/5i/PstLaAta99iavSk70bC+wLQoOM3r63Dr+2tJY=; b=yFhpA1jYyORpcXmnFtRh6tYIgKaz5wOWknVwfv66Ku234RbIE3FxsEfFhXDOGl87YU gCaUJuTmqefA7dF6ADF+NRIRfyOoajdK7wFURKq4GjWdoaNH57sOn4n0Qq/qb7MIGcBG ndBImQovRj+QxrZs431cDxeETPNTgvYFxWsEpOnbaV5D6GcXHZY2jt20Q9VaHDUKy0iC LozZVtNtvtWX+N3p+CIHnm/QxBV3wRvNaDWCVpPtl+89V2BNTEvlOJWM+Vx2ZJWLZYsE WTQSqoB//FYDfL0NL5Mj4Ox8K+bgnXB3ZD6e0tdfFmUXJp3xYqoigSMXH1UiyNjfA1O2 QKVQ== Received: by 10.68.202.41 with SMTP id kf9mr12074866pbc.56.1352334982434; Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from RoniE ([2001:df8:0:64:847e:6a12:740b:570d]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id oj1sm14916791pbb.19.2012.11.07.16.36.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 07 Nov 2012 16:36:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Roni Even" To: Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:33:47 -0500 Message-ID: <001e01cdbd48$b9250b00$2b6f2100$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01CDBD1E.D0521040" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac29SD9DuajxOegyRfqUzgqLivoB7Q== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [avtext] using tmbbr to pause a stream X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:36:23 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CDBD1E.D0521040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Looking at RFC 5104 section 3.5.4.1 last paragraph Obviously, in point-to-point cases, when there is only one media receiver, this receiver becomes "owner" once it receives the first TMMBN in response to its own TMMBR, and stays "owner" for the rest of the session. Therefore, when it is known that there will always be only a single media receiver, the above algorithm is not required. Media receivers that are aware they are the only ones in a session can send TMMBR messages with bit rate limits both higher and lower than the previously notified limit, at any time (subject to the AVPF [RFC4585 ] RTCP RR send timing rules). However, it may be difficult for a session participant to determine if it is the only receiver in the session. Because of this, any implementation of TMMBR is required to include the algorithm described in the next section or a stricter equivalent. I got the impression that in the typical unicast cases (point to point and MCUs) there is no problem with using tmbbr to pause and resume a stream Roni Even ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CDBD1E.D0521040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

Looking at RFC = 5104 section 3.5.4.1 last paragraph

 

Obviously, in point-to-point cases, when =
there is only one media
   receiver, this receiver becomes =
"owner" once it receives the first
   TMMBN in response to its own =
TMMBR, and stays "owner" for the rest =
of
   the session.  =
Therefore, when it is known that there will always =
be
   only a single media =
receiver, the above algorithm is not =
required.
   Media receivers that are aware =
they are the only ones in a session
   can send TMMBR messages with bit =
rate limits both higher and lower
   than the previously notified =
limit, at any time (subject to the AVPF
   [RFC4585] RTCP RR send timing rules).  =
However, it may be difficult
   for a session participant to =
determine if it is the only receiver in
   the session.  Because of =
this, any implementation of TMMBR is
   required to include the =
algorithm described in the next section or a
   stricter =
equivalent.
 

I got the impression that in the typical unicast cases = (point to point and MCUs) there is no problem with using tmbbr to pause = and resume a stream

 

Roni = Even

------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CDBD1E.D0521040-- From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Wed Nov 7 16:45:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D64A21F8B6D for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:45:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.168 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.168 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.082, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NCjHyCklOaY0 for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:45:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw2.ericsson.se (mailgw2.ericsson.se [193.180.251.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AF721F859B for ; Wed, 7 Nov 2012 16:45:24 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-b7f926d00000661f-2e-509b00a222da Received: from esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw2.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 92.EA.26143.2A00B905; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 01:45:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.85) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.1; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 01:45:22 +0100 Message-ID: <509B00A0.9000403@ericsson.com> Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:45:20 -0500 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roni Even References: <001e01cdbd48$b9250b00$2b6f2100$@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <001e01cdbd48$b9250b00$2b6f2100$@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupjluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGfG3Rncxw+wAg2P3WCw+3rvBavG3ndmB yWPnrLvsHkuW/GQKYIrisklJzcksSy3St0vgyujbfpupoJWr4tGtd4wNjF/Yuxg5OSQETCTe 9e2EssUkLtxbzwZiCwmcZJT4t7Ksi5ELyF7GKHFmei8TSIJXQFtiw9cdLF2MHBwsAioSx08p goTZBCwkbv5oBOsVFQiW2HNsLSNEuaDEyZlPWEBsEQE1iddrP4PVMAsIS3x5tApsr7CAscTZ cw1MEHvNJXat7gGLcwLNfDztERvEbZISb9+/Yobo1ZOYcrWFEcKWl2jeOpsZoldboqGpg3UC o9AsJKtnIWmZhaRlASPzKkb23MTMnPRyo02MwDA9uOW36g7GO+dEDjFKc7AoifNab93jLySQ nliSmp2aWpBaFF9UmpNafIiRiYNTqoFxp6vNkdgVKq7Kp9d2tEw6sF/7pu2sUxEG4aF7v3Cl rPvNveywBsvPnJ8L3j0TS9uf4GLCt3N5m0KBzY/XO4L3v/63VShnf0LDklsFCyy3qi2YZM0s rvi7SpUnxv3AvOjTob+URQ+1nhPM8PthcqT8bkfDC650l+aJChufrGP8v7b3gglHn66LEktx RqKhFnNRcSIA5qgaJSECAAA= Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: Re: [avtext] using tmbbr to pause a stream X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:45:26 -0000 On 2012-11-07 19:33, Roni Even wrote: > Hi, > > Looking at RFC 5104 section 3.5.4.1 last paragraph > > > > Because of this, any implementation of TMMBR is > > required to include the algorithm described in the next section or a > > stricter equivalent. > The important part is the last sentence with the conclusion. Also this section is informative. While the actual normative text is: Section 4.2.1.2 which includes the following text: If the media sender concludes that it can increase the maximum total media bit rate value, it SHALL wait before actually doing so, for a period long enough to allow a media receiver to respond to the TMMBN if it determines that its tuple belongs in the bounding set. There are no exception present in this text. Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Nov 12 00:51:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA14E21F8555; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:51:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.081, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YTQe4kjP6FZ1; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C3721F852C; Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:51:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.36 Message-ID: <20121112085103.2867.30464.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 00:51:03 -0800 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-12.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 08:51:04 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Content Splicing for RTP Sessions Author(s) : Jinwei Xia Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-12.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2012-11-12 Abstract: Content splicing is a process that replaces the content of a main multimedia stream with other multimedia content, and delivers the substitutive multimedia content to the receivers for a period of time. Splicing is commonly used for local advertisement insertion by cable operators, replacing a national advertisement content with a local advertisement. This memo describes some use cases for content splicing and a set of requirements for splicing content delivered by RTP. It provides concrete guidelines for how an RTP mixer can be used to handle content splicing. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-12 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-12 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Tue Nov 13 06:44:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C92021F86AE; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:44:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.542 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.542 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1Y6PL3ebs19Y; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:44:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D702A21F86B2; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:44:18 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.36 Message-ID: <20121113144418.23936.5851.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:44:18 -0800 Cc: avtext mailing list , avtext chair , RFC Editor Subject: [avtext] Document Action: 'Content Splicing for RTP Sessions' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-12.txt) X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:44:19 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Content Splicing for RTP Sessions' (draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-12.txt) as Informational RFC This document is the product of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Gonzalo Camarillo and Robert Sparks. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp/ Technical Summary This memo outlines how to perform RTP splicing. Splicing is a process that replaces the content of the main multimedia stream with other multimedia content, and delivers the substitutive multimedia content to receiver for a period of time. This memo provides some RTP splicing use cases, then we enumerate a set of requirements and analyze whether an existing RTP level middlebox can meet these requirements, at last we provide concrete guidelines for how the chosen middlebox works to handle RTP splicing. Working Group Summary This document has firm WG consensus behind it and has been advequate reviewed. Document Quality The sheperd is unaware of any specific implementation but expect this functionality to be implemented in the field. How well they follow the proposed method is unknown. Personnel The document Shepherd is Magnus Westerlund The responsible AD is Gonzalo Camarillo From internet-drafts@ietf.org Wed Nov 14 17:41:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA1321F85CE; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:41:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.408 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.408 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.191, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kT5VcIUmtIsj; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57BE21F855B; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:41:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.36 Message-ID: <20121115014134.21157.51847.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 17:41:34 -0800 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-13.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:41:35 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Content Splicing for RTP Sessions Author(s) : Jinwei Xia Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-13.txt Pages : 16 Date : 2012-11-14 Abstract: Content splicing is a process that replaces the content of a main multimedia stream with other multimedia content, and delivers the substitutive multimedia content to the receivers for a period of time. Splicing is commonly used for local advertisement insertion by cable operators, replacing a national advertisement content with a local advertisement. This memo describes some use cases for content splicing and a set of requirements for splicing content delivered by RTP. It provides concrete guidelines for how an RTP mixer can be used to handle content splicing. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-13 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-13 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Thu Nov 15 01:03:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EDF21F85CD for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:03:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.15 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.15 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.099, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NYEG6dSq5TCo for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EE721F8557 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:03:58 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7f936d0000018b3-52-50a4aff93acf Received: from esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id DA.68.06323.9FFA4A05; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:03:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.82) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.1; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:03:53 +0100 Message-ID: <50A4AFF8.4050308@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:03:52 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: avtext@ietf.org References: <20121115014134.21157.51847.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20121115014134.21157.51847.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrFJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvje7P9UsCDO59FrH4eO8GqwOjx5Il P5kCGKO4bFJSczLLUov07RK4Mj7f+cxUcES8YkFfP1sD4zThLkZODgkBE4l7kw+zQ9hiEhfu rWfrYuTiEBI4yShx8dhHKGc5o8TfG9tZQap4BbQl/l4+DdTBwcEioCpx5okZSJhNwELi5o9G NhBbVCBYYs+xtYwQ5YISJ2c+YQGxRQSEJX69uQk2RljAW2L9lm1MILaQgKPEgy/NYPWcAk4S Hzpfs0IcJCnx9v0rZhCbWUBPYsrVFkYIW16ieetsZohebYmGpg7WCYyCs5Csm4WkZRaSlgWM zKsY2XMTM3PSy803MQLD7+CW3wY7GDfdFzvEKM3BoiTOq6e6319IID2xJDU7NbUgtSi+qDQn tfgQIxMHp1QD42x5o9zqZz9qDI/tFZHZMtlO6fPUM0e/3v/gY10vnPX90t+suqxln5avENI1 PqIw71xz6RarIr/1dVlcMY+L5vUvfnjgstyNK4dyGY5Gb7/16aF98Jcv9xiSw4q0mQKdrKPW T5y5edE9/TBrwS87rGd+fee+bJ7wfB7m5xXGjtNb/HbdvWom7a/EUpyRaKjFXFScCABDxomG DQIAAA== Subject: Re: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-13.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:03:59 -0000 WG, The discussing AD has removed their discusses and the document has been approved and moved into the RFC-Editor queue. I promised to give the WG a possibility to object to the text. Thus please provide any objections or comments on the changes since the version we sent to the IESG no later than the 22nd of November. Changes from version 11 (that existed last week at the meeting until now.) https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-11&difftype=--html&submit=Go!&url2=draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-13 For all changes since 09 (version submitted to IESG the second time): https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-09&difftype=--html&submit=Go!&url2=draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-13 Cheers Magnus On 2012-11-15 02:41, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Content Splicing for RTP Sessions > Author(s) : Jinwei Xia > Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-13.txt > Pages : 16 > Date : 2012-11-14 > > Abstract: > Content splicing is a process that replaces the content of a main > multimedia stream with other multimedia content, and delivers the > substitutive multimedia content to the receivers for a period of > time. Splicing is commonly used for local advertisement insertion by > cable operators, replacing a national advertisement content with a > local advertisement. > > This memo describes some use cases for content splicing and a set of > requirements for splicing content delivered by RTP. It provides > concrete guidelines for how an RTP mixer can be used to handle > content splicing. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-13 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-13 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > avtext mailing list > avtext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avtext > > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Thu Nov 15 01:19:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D988E21F869B for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:19:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.155 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.155 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.094, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3ths4bKu0qlc for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:19:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw2.ericsson.se (mailgw2.ericsson.se [193.180.251.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37D4A21F8614 for ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 01:19:48 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-b7f926d00000661f-1e-50a4b3b214bc Received: from esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw2.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 9F.68.26143.2B3B4A05; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:19:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.82) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.1; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:19:46 +0100 Message-ID: <50A4B3B1.1070002@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:19:45 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121026 Thunderbird/16.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roni Even X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrJJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvje6mzUsCDFbt0rL4eO8Gq8WTlh/M DkweS5b8ZPLYsfkBawBTFJdNSmpOZllqkb5dAlfG8vkHGAsms1W0XrjJ3sDYxtrFyMkhIWAi 0bfqGRuELSZx4d56IJuLQ0jgJKNE47F5UM5yRomPy16AVfEKaEv8OHQUrJtFQFXi6duP7CA2 m4CFxM0fjWA1ogLBEnuOrWWEqBeUODnzCQuILQLU27VvIlgvs4C6xOF9S8BqhAWcJHZPvAd1 haTE2/evmCFq9CSmXG1hhLDlJZq3zgaLCwHNaWjqYJ3AKDALyYpZSFpmIWlZwMi8ipE9NzEz J73caBMjMPgObvmtuoPxzjmRQ4zSHCxK4rzWW/f4CwmkJ5akZqemFqQWxReV5qQWH2Jk4uCU amBUE7mr4R+3Tjj31spSx6z/Bwstqit4daVcPoRKm7Ovt79o9CQq+d+OVTx5Psyptf+Tr5qe yN5xb+aSKfc0Pj/mballXP/aT/7WlSK9Cm/VH24+z0Q/CP2ovJ9xQi/126Yc87/bvS5GbZjO 2DtZ7afapuTWuDbjPhePf4zLQ260T3t0ZcqbujQlluKMREMt5qLiRAC7YLjyDAIAAA== Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: [avtext] Producing draft regarding usage of TMMBR for Pause/Resume X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:19:55 -0000 Hi Roni (CC AVTEXT) I just want to remind you about your action to provide an Internet draft for how TMMBR specification is to be modified to not have semantically issues when using it to single RTP Media Stream pause and resume and what applicability it has. You promised produce this within an month. Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Thu Nov 15 21:48:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3703321F8528; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:48:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.136, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q6tkdakOi-IQ; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:48:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5135E21F8531; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:48:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.36 Message-ID: <20121116054849.25912.40210.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:48:49 -0800 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-07.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 05:48:50 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session Author(s) : Marc Petit-Huguenin Glen Zorn Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-07.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2012-11-15 Abstract: This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock rates are used in an RTP session. It also provides guidance on how to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple clock rates. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-07 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-07 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From internet-drafts@ietf.org Tue Nov 20 01:34:09 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B71021F8464; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:34:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.473 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.473 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.126, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7clpC4jdGTTM; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBAA21F847B; Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:34:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.36 Message-ID: <20121120093409.10448.88583.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 01:34:09 -0800 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-08.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:34:09 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session Author(s) : Marc Petit-Huguenin Glen Zorn Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-08.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2012-11-20 Abstract: This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock rates are used in an RTP session. It also provides guidance on how to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple clock rates. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-08 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-08 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Mon Nov 26 04:18:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5013521F84FB for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 04:18:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZMbFogWC2nW7 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 04:18:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B28021F84F2 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 04:18:21 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7f936d0000018b3-4b-50b35e0ccc8d Received: from esessmw0237.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B0.A0.06323.C0E53B05; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:18:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0237.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.91) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.1; Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:18:20 +0100 Message-ID: <50B35E0B.2010602@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:18:19 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "avtext@ietf.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrEJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+JvjS5v3OYAg2t9zBYf791gdWD0WLLk J1MAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxoRDfYwFT1grPq17wtbA+Jyli5GTQ0LAROJwcy8rhC0mceHe ejYQW0jgJKPE/enWXYxcQPZyRompMw6ANfAKaEv8ObaaGcRmEVCVmLRlEzuIzSZgIXHzRyNY s6iAr8SsPb+YIOoFJU7OfALWKyKgLnFn+gWwGmEBPYnl3TugFktKLJrWCVbDDBSfcrWFEcKW l2jeOpsZ4iBtiYamDtYJjPyzkIydhaRlFpKWBYzMqxjZcxMzc9LLzTcxAsPp4JbfBjsYN90X O8QozcGiJM6rp7rfX0ggPbEkNTs1tSC1KL6oNCe1+BAjEwenVAMja9Sa/kXA8DXdz/dDYLFk 8y7PjBsv1r9h8OCV2V9ysO+pUM+bqs//jz0N8LzzdX1382MT261SaxneLTxx6e3Wc7/EFBmO XVrsNu3hObFPFRdebNVckL/7d86Enw4npt5/+lZsx8kYN68/sedYfONCTExTzwseFJXdr7rv r2SexaF5n9OdS4wSlFiKMxINtZiLihMB64G2ovUBAAA= Subject: [avtext] Minutes for AVTEXT meeting at IETF 85 X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:18:26 -0000 WG, Please review the AVTEXT minutes for IETF 85. http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/minutes/minutes-85-avtext Please send any comments or request for corrections to the WG or chairs. 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