From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Tue Apr 2 02:50:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD49921F982B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:50:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jeoQ0d3xo7PK for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw1.ericsson.se (mailgw1.ericsson.se [193.180.251.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7825F21F9846 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 02:50:58 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-b7f316d0000028db-69-515aaa01b83f Received: from esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw1.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 2E.1E.10459.10AAA515; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:50:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0197.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.88) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.1; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:50:56 +0200 Message-ID: <515AAA00.8000603@ericsson.com> Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:50:56 +0200 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: avtext@ietf.org, draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates@tools.ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFmpmluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGfG3VpdxVVSgwZPLUhYf791gtbh0rNCB yWPJkp9MHl8uf2YLYIrisklJzcksSy3St0vgyrh38DlLwQHJio2bGpkbGFtFuhg5OSQETCRW 9MxihrDFJC7cW8/WxcjFISRwilHi0oY9zBDOMkaJtx072UGqeAW0JTbMvgyU4OBgEVCROPu4 AiTMJmAhcfNHIxuILSoQLPHz1RkWiHJBiZMzn4DZIgK+Eg+bvoAtExbwkLi9+hEjiC0kYCPx eksXWC+ngK3E1TdvGSEOkpTY8qIdbC2zgJ7ElKstjBC2vETz1tnMEL3aEg1NHawTGAVnIVk3 C0nLLCQtCxiZVzGy5yZm5qSXG25iBAbkwS2/dXcwnjoncohRmoNFSZw3zPVCgJBAemJJanZq akFqUXxRaU5q8SFGJg5OqQbGSO4JZb8/2U2V5+HgbpwZ4pnbblMb4BefFlnyry7uiaaT43vd PNW2dQXnmfYreD+Q/hB++6XsX+9GQdmMxS7XHPZ1zexgrKs20Qrsnpliz/tz09MCISV2i+o1 lQfmnvnMf3lD3ILFTvwJF++78+5yvzv537J5MgaHVs5ULF5iyW487/fS9hAlluKMREMt5qLi RADo4aYfFgIAAA== Subject: Re: [avtext] WGLC for draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-08 X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 09:50:59 -0000 Hi, I have reviewed the draft and thinks it is in principle ready for publication. Although it could be possibly be improved by the below suggested changes: Section 1: Slight confusion in the usage of "payload format", "payload type" and payload OLD: The clock rate is a parameter of the payload format. It is often defined as been the same as the sampling rate but it is not always the case (see e.g. the G722 and MPA audio codecs [RFC3551]). An RTP sender can switch between different payloads during the lifetime of an RTP session and because clock rates are defined by payload types, it is possible that the clock rate also varies during an RTP session. NEW: The clock rate is a parameter of the payload format as identified in RTP and RTCP by its payload type value. It is often defined as been the same as the sampling rate but it is not always the case (see e.g. the G722 and MPA audio codecs [RFC3551]). An RTP sender can switch between different payload formats during the lifetime of an RTP session and because clock rates are defined by payload format, it is possible that the clock rate also varies during an RTP session. 2. Section 4.2: No reference to Table 4. OLD: Note that in all the formulas, capture_start is the first instant the new timestamp rate is used. NEW: Note that in all the formulas, capture_start is the first instant the new timestamp rate is used. The output of the above method is exemplified in Table 4. Appendix A. Each Table should have some indication for what they reference, like Table 2 - Monotonic Timestamps Table 3 - Non-monotonic timestamps Table 4 - Recommended method for RTP Sender (without RTCP) Cheers Magnus On 2013-03-27 22:15, Jonathan Lennox wrote: > (As WG cochair) > > This is to announce a working group last call for draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-08: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates/ > > Please respond to the list by April 17 2013 (i.e. 3 weeks time) with any comments. > > This is intended as a standards track RFC, updating RFC 3550. > > It is helpful to attempt to categorise the type of your comment (including severity) and also to assist to provide any replacement text you feel is necessary. > > If you review the document and have no comments, please tell the chairs that you have reviewed it. This is always useful information in assessing the degree of WG review and consensus behind the document. > > > -- > Jonathan Lennox > jonathan@vidyo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > avtext mailing list > avtext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avtext > > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From ron.even.tlv@gmail.com Wed Apr 17 06:55:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C8121F8AA8 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 06:55:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z3cSHAOkrbyJ for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 06:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (mail-ee0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52FCA21F8AE3 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 06:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id e50so781587eek.16 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=DZg1YLAXiiJl7oY4awd8Zd8wte6zHhTei6e6Md3oS3g=; b=fUxcm44dKr9brrYXAA4z+YYMyWQBNJyItAKywTwx8bD2ISMNm4tpGsv1CpU+8bnvSR 7bEoDUy1zhMnritvBcGhdqBC6O9xXR4NOa2rbzUjFEr8aSc7j6pnqsAfV3TyALOEQz1H IhDth8uMNBUPeQi+XcczuXlF297ztETZlRO1WxH8ZO/GfWfAl0mPh7fL2eM4LPCgE+hW N7BmXjQ4AdBphGfAhQ7cDedTMUtAqKTGgw3tizlQJGKFHhLOzroMO3ssWMzE5N6OdPIL 8OS7jwJiE8JF/GKkSn1R6uPE9eYt2hiyQCfIiEGHlgnPhF7nzHIdDXxkGg4ERtQHwV9J I9uw== X-Received: by 10.14.218.66 with SMTP id j42mr18290843eep.46.1366206901530; Wed, 17 Apr 2013 06:55:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RoniE (bzq-79-181-177-28.red.bezeqint.net. [79.181.177.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b47sm9250007eez.2.2013.04.17.06.54.59 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Apr 2013 06:55:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Roni Even" To: Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 16:54:27 +0300 Message-ID: <00b801ce3b73$153f4970$3fbddc50$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B9_01CE3B8C.3A8CCF90" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: Ac47cwS+cRpPZXmGTJu0cVhmvja4mA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [avtext] Splicing notification draft-xia-avtext-splicing-notification-01 X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:55:08 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01CE3B8C.3A8CCF90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I read draft-xia-avtext-splicing-notification-01 and think it is an important building block for the RTP splicing topology specified in RFC6828. It allows splicing at RTP level and not only for MPEG2 TS (Transport streams). I support going forward with this work Roni Even ------=_NextPart_000_00B9_01CE3B8C.3A8CCF90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

I read draft-xia-avtext-splicing-notification-01 and think it is an = important building block for the RTP splicing topology specified in = RFC6828.

 

It allows splicing at RTP level and not only for MPEG2 = TS (Transport streams).

 

I support = going forward with this work

 

Roni Even =

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Hi Roni,

 

Thank your support on this work. The draft aims to provide one ge= neric approach to carry the splicing related metadata to the splicer regard= less of the media codec in the RTP payload.

 

Anybody who review the draft at your convenient time can show you= r comments to me, it is very appreciated.

 

BR

Jinwei

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: avtext-= bounces@ietf.org [mailto:avtext-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA= =B1=ED Roni Even
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=D6=F7=CC=E2: [avtext] Splicing notification draft-xia-avtext-splicing-notification-01<= o:p>

 

Hi,

I read draft-xia-avtext-splicing-notification-01 and think it is an important = building block for the RTP splicing topology specified in RFC6828.

 

It allows splicing at RTP level= and not only for MPEG2 TS (Transport streams).

 

I support going forward with th= is work

 

Roni Even

--_000_A8219E7785257C47B75B6DCE682F8D2F4F623104nkgeml501mbschi_-- From internet-drafts@ietf.org Sun Apr 21 21:50:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 664E021F86CE; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:50:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.587 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.587 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cUyTwRyc8bVJ; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F7E821F8494; Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:50:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.44.p3 Message-ID: <20130422045029.27915.63114.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 21:50:29 -0700 Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 04:50:37 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working = Group of the IETF. Title : Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session Author(s) : Marc Petit-Huguenin Glen Zorn Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09.txt Pages : 12 Date : 2013-04-21 Abstract: This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock rates are used in an RTP session. It also provides guidance on how to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple clock rates. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09 Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Mon Apr 22 00:09:12 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD78B21F890D for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 00:09:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.917 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.917 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.332, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iB-yTezIWxH2 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 00:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0389521F870F for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 00:09:10 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7f266d000000cb5-1b-5174e215b004 Received: from esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id CE.74.03253.512E4715; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:09:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.85) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.1; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:09:09 +0200 Message-ID: <5174E215.4020405@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:09:09 +0200 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "avtext@ietf.org" References: <20130422045029.27915.63114.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20130422045029.27915.63114.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrBJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvra7oo5JAgzmrzC0+3rvB6sDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujHNvXrAUXBComPxhGUsD4xLeLkZODgkBE4kZV/4zQthiEhfu rWfrYuTiEBI4xSjxadEdJpCEkMByRokNE/xAbF4BbYnODWuZQWwWAVWJHeuvsYLYbAIWEjd/ NAI1c3CICgRLbG2NgSgXlDg58wkLiC0ioC5xZ/oFsBJhATeJKwdNIaY7Sry9+w5sIqeAk8Tu Xe1Q50hKbHnRzg5iMwvoSUy52sIIYctLNG+dzQzRqy3R0NTBOoFRcBaSbbOQtMxC0rKAkXkV I3tuYmZOern5JkZg6B3c8ttgB+Om+2KHGKU5WJTEecNdLwQICaQnlqRmp6YWpBbFF5XmpBYf YmTi4JRqYCwuqikslZmTpj3rdebiabfn3xTdl/enVPvf6YaJldwvjk64+Z7Xu1/r+Z7OMHeV 9X8Dj0sX7mLt7Z3deoLH4lCGQVCn+s3VGhlJD3bpbD+tqmz3sWNzW4jx8e6aVCOb7QL8phc9 r7LO6/1zYVXBJ0dX7sbE1x8jwpi528pW6Wm9Obzr1OlzQkosxRmJhlrMRcWJAKK1k3cLAgAA Subject: Re: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:09:12 -0000 Hi, This appears to resolve the issues I noted in WG last call. Thanks Magnus On 2013-04-22 06:50, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session > Author(s) : Marc Petit-Huguenin > Glen Zorn > Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09.txt > Pages : 12 > Date : 2013-04-21 > > Abstract: > This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock > rates are used in an RTP session. It also provides guidance on how > to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple > clock rates. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates > > There's also a htmlized version available at: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09 > > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From glenzorn@gmail.com Mon Apr 22 00:46:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61F121F86F4 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 00:46:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 56WzN9XIn8BA for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 00:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-f180.google.com (mail-pd0-f180.google.com [209.85.192.180]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B0D21F84FD for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 00:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id q11so3396452pdj.11 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 00:46:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=G1J5XIvPBaUEd/te2/lDQt4TM4dnKt+7eJfIdEt3if4=; b=GR/V1A5EJCKUehUNvIFqYd8lME4fMTK+pI0dAvAsVgubhuIZtodCb3GpAj6lr+u8/8 VjFZcxiRdsLcEVivpGo+HuNE7WZFHxBCp2bETMe+XXb5j+MF3c3QHesbs3yEWUFvXyRk KcS+kx3HCeLT73sHqfmrYmULO2w6hnZAi3M39qa1RjJeD37iaRgjRIECY+0Mi2zfLQzv FLNQ/bgYLj/85O9+jgXQnvmuhW3p6he8b49iRf9As0433xMrQhsg1o5oiI6Y0IXAo5fA exWm87hWehBbgRXu7hCUHcky1UiTTOyOu40pMMexMhCH4PMmL+rqUdRVnP5pre1WyKDA OT7A== X-Received: by 10.66.161.33 with SMTP id xp1mr11407495pab.36.1366616807461; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 00:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (ppp-124-120-219-223.revip2.asianet.co.th. [124.120.219.223]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kd7sm24043280pbb.34.2013.04.22.00.46.42 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Apr 2013 00:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5174EADE.5010003@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:46:38 +0700 From: Glen Zorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130404 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Magnus Westerlund References: <20130422045029.27915.63114.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5174E215.4020405@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <5174E215.4020405@ericsson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:46:53 -0000 On 04/22/2013 02:09 PM, Magnus Westerlund wrote: > Hi, > > This appears to resolve the issues I noted in WG last call. So that means that a request to publish will shortly follow, no? > > Thanks > > Magnus > > On 2013-04-22 06:50, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions Working Group of the IETF. >> >> Title : Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session >> Author(s) : Marc Petit-Huguenin >> Glen Zorn >> Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09.txt >> Pages : 12 >> Date : 2013-04-21 >> >> Abstract: >> This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock >> rates are used in an RTP session. It also provides guidance on how >> to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple >> clock rates. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09 >> >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> I-D-Announce mailing list >> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> >> > From magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com Mon Apr 22 02:57:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2134B11E809C for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 02:57:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.083 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.083 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.166, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7yBZ1aneO3eh for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 02:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF61221F8CF4 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 02:57:38 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7f266d000000cb5-11-5175099160c5 Received: from esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 79.5A.03253.19905715; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:57:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.115.8) by esessmw0184.eemea.ericsson.se (153.88.115.82) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.279.1; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:57:37 +0200 Message-ID: <51750991.6070008@ericsson.com> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:57:37 +0200 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen Zorn References: <20130422045029.27915.63114.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5174E215.4020405@ericsson.com> <5174EADE.5010003@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5174EADE.5010003@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFupjluLIzCtJLcpLzFFi42KZGfG3VnciZ2mgwbR5hhYf791gtVg/+RKL A5PHzll32T2WLPnJFMAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJXxeet15oJFIhUnFso0MLYLdDFyckgImEj8 P3SHHcIWk7hwbz1bFyMXh5DAKUaJzs517BDOckaJU/desYBU8QpoSyzbuwfMZhFQlVjzcxMb iM0mYCFx80cjkM3BISoQLLG1NQaiXFDi5MwnYOUiAkoSGy/dA1vGLKAucXjfEkYQW1jAX2Ll 3AvMIK1CAnUSG57xg4Q5BTQlXpy4wAhxm6TElhftUK16ElOutjBC2PISzVtnM4PYQkCXNTR1 sE5gFJqFZPMsJC2zkLQsYGRexciem5iZk15uvokRGKYHt/w22MG46b7YIUZpDhYlcd5w1wsB QgLpiSWp2ampBalF8UWlOanFhxiZODilGhgXK90Q3diSpPEkTrMm6b72u+qc59n2C3+5KLxr O/SxinF2U+xNhz7F9Vm9vUleF7Tn6SRmNcgF3PtqpXNI8Z9j2t5MpR+y16f8feRbbHo5e+mO Z/oiOrqWTTGWd1/GTlie/lH+bmTwzX28Hup77b9oCv9/wK38bN7ivrJuLtEwy/LDnuWnZimx FGckGmoxFxUnAgCktLfvIQIAAA== Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:57:40 -0000 On 2013-04-22 09:46, Glen Zorn wrote: > > On 04/22/2013 02:09 PM, Magnus Westerlund wrote: >> Hi, >> >> This appears to resolve the issues I noted in WG last call. > > So that means that a request to publish will shortly follow, no? As you had me on the To line, that is up to the chairs, which isn't me any longer. Even if I think that is very reasonable to occur. Cheers Magnus > >> >> Thanks >> >> Magnus >> >> On 2013-04-22 06:50, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>> directories. >>> This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions >>> Working Group of the IETF. >>> >>> Title : Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session >>> Author(s) : Marc Petit-Huguenin >>> Glen Zorn >>> Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09.txt >>> Pages : 12 >>> Date : 2013-04-21 >>> >>> Abstract: >>> This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock >>> rates are used in an RTP session. It also provides guidance on how >>> to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple >>> clock rates. >>> >>> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates >>> >>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09 >>> >>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09 >>> >>> >>> >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> I-D-Announce mailing list >>> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >>> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >>> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >>> >>> >> > > > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From csp@csperkins.org Mon Apr 22 07:37:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D91A21E808E for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:37:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dGl--j9gxUy0 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from balrog.mythic-beasts.com (balrog.mythic-beasts.com [93.93.130.6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9883121E8089 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 07:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [81.187.2.149] (port=45539 helo=[192.168.0.11]) by balrog.mythic-beasts.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UUHsE-00012G-QU; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:37:43 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Colin Perkins In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:37:40 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <619D6CDC-EBFE-4B15-9F46-D3B2725A8DF0@csperkins.org> References: To: Jonathan Lennox X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-BlackCat-Spam-Score: -28 X-Mythic-Debug: Threshold = On = Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [avtext] WGLC for draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-08 X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:37:45 -0000 On 27 Mar 2013, at 21:15, Jonathan Lennox wrote: > (As WG cochair) >=20 > This is to announce a working group last call for = draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-08: >=20 > = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates/ >=20 > Please respond to the list by April 17 2013 (i.e. 3 weeks time) with = any comments. >=20 > This is intended as a standards track RFC, updating RFC 3550. >=20 > It is helpful to attempt to categorise the type of your comment = (including severity) and also to assist to provide any replacement text = you feel is necessary. >=20 > If you review the document and have no comments, please tell the = chairs that you have reviewed it. This is always useful information in = assessing the degree of WG review and consensus behind the document. Apologies for the late review. I looked at -09, and think it is ready = for publication. --=20 Colin Perkins http://csperkins.org/ From glenzorn@gmail.com Mon Apr 22 21:47:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1262021F90EB for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:47:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X2TiT3u063Kn for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-f172.google.com (mail-pd0-f172.google.com [209.85.192.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8C721F88A9 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 4so169662pdd.31 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:47:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JEsxGNUnHJf1QoJFfHC9OVDTDS1CQ+WvM2DSjSe/FK8=; b=Enqg+kLhA9JNbFwQlMdSKTKO2iYciJiJE6zk5AVbFpYV/Y/KDHRHrWcA0VIB4aucgW pJ57eVb66qnLtdGhEpBiP6N9sGsXCkHtvYNMYEuduU+35mmuQX0FvtazV23DSV5z8OEP 7+rqFJ+4uo0w2qv64zUyfldfIWun0WvLenK43MrpyS5F++t2wFy4ispTJtAwfQbjFmob cC4cWtgOAJrcnHJD0aXxQmQYQzFIY1M4ysx+kd3obiYCOKG3XNXmBnU7m6M7EpQh7TlA 8hnJAUk4MijotdmwPnRqjmGDfHJZyi5f9EuLsWISbuAdecw80RnZiuSwy9LcQMqZY6fF UIWw== X-Received: by 10.68.216.70 with SMTP id oo6mr36443031pbc.160.1366692475656; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:47:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (ppp-110-168-72-62.revip5.asianet.co.th. [110.168.72.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t1sm30049124pab.12.2013.04.22.21.47.52 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51761276.6@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 11:47:50 +0700 From: Glen Zorn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130404 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Magnus Westerlund References: <20130422045029.27915.63114.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5174E215.4020405@ericsson.com> <5174EADE.5010003@gmail.com> <51750991.6070008@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <51750991.6070008@ericsson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" , avtext-chairs Subject: Re: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 04:47:57 -0000 On 04/22/2013 04:57 PM, Magnus Westerlund wrote: > On 2013-04-22 09:46, Glen Zorn wrote: >> On 04/22/2013 02:09 PM, Magnus Westerlund wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> This appears to resolve the issues I noted in WG last call. >> So that means that a request to publish will shortly follow, no? > As you had me on the To line, that is up to the chairs, which isn't me > any longer. Sorry about that! > Even if I think that is very reasonable to occur. Thanks! > > Cheers > > Magnus > >>> Thanks >>> >>> Magnus >>> >>> On 2013-04-22 06:50, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>>> directories. >>>> This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions >>>> Working Group of the IETF. >>>> >>>> Title : Support for Multiple Clock Rates in an RTP Session >>>> Author(s) : Marc Petit-Huguenin >>>> Glen Zorn >>>> Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09.txt >>>> Pages : 12 >>>> Date : 2013-04-21 >>>> >>>> Abstract: >>>> This document clarifies the RTP specification when different clock >>>> rates are used in an RTP session. It also provides guidance on how >>>> to interoperate with legacy RTP implementations that use multiple >>>> clock rates. >>>> >>>> >>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates >>>> >>>> There's also a htmlized version available at: >>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09 >>>> >>>> A diff from the previous version is available at: >>>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-avtext-multiple-clock-rates-09 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> I-D-Announce mailing list >>>> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >>>> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >>>> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >>>> >>>> >> >> > From johnsonhammond2@hushmail.com Sat Apr 27 10:15:12 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C02721F981D for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:15:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nZZNeXiD8v-I for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.237]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E149421F92A5 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2.hushmail.com (smtp2a.hushmail.com [65.39.178.237]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A2353E7BB7 for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hushmail.com (w8.hushmail.com [65.39.178.52]) by smtp2.hushmail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.hushmail.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 637A414DBDE; Sat, 27 Apr 2013 17:15:00 +0000 (UTC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:15:00 -0400 To: avtext@ietf.org From: johnsonhammond2@hushmail.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20130427171500.637A414DBDE@smtp.hushmail.com> Subject: [avtext] Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 18:06:04 -0000 Biggest Fake Conference in Computer Science We are researchers from different parts of the world and conducted a study on the world’s biggest bogus computer science conference WORLDCOMP ( http://sites.google.com/site/worlddump1 ) organized by Prof. Hamid Arabnia from University of Georgia, USA. 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After that, we received few reminders from WORLDCOMP to pay the fee but we never responded. We MUST say that you should look at the above website if you have any thoughts to submit a paper to WORLDCOMP. DBLP and other indexing agencies have stopped indexing WORLDCOMP’s proceedings since 2011 due to its fakeness. See http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/conf/icai/index.html for of one of the conferences of WORLDCOMP and notice that there is no listing after 2010. See Section 2 of http://sites.google.com/site/dumpconf for comments from well-known researchers about WORLDCOMP. The status of your WORLDCOMP papers can be changed from scientific to other (i.e., junk or non-technical) at any time. Better not to have a paper than having it in WORLDCOMP and spoil the resume and peace of mind forever! Our study revealed that WORLDCOMP is a money making business, using University of Georgia mask, for Prof. Hamid Arabnia. He is throwing out a small chunk of that money (around 20 dollars per paper published in WORLDCOMP’s proceedings) to his puppet (Mr. Ashu Solo or A.M.G. Solo) who publicizes WORLDCOMP and also defends it at various forums, using fake/anonymous names. The puppet uses fake names and defames other conferences to divert traffic to WORLDCOMP. He also makes anonymous phone calls and tries to threaten the critiques of WORLDCOMP (See Item 7 of Section 5 of above website). That is, the puppet does all his best to get a maximum number of papers published at WORLDCOMP to get more money into his (and Prof. Hamid Arabnia’s) pockets. Monte Carlo Resort (the venue of WORLDCOMP for more than 10 years, until 2012) has refused to provide the venue for WORLDCOMP’13 because of the fears of their image being tarnished due to WORLDCOMP’s fraudulent activities. That is why WORLDCOMP’13 is taking place at a different resort. WORLDCOMP will not be held after 2013. 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