From ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Tue May 6 17:50:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0613A6DEA for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_BACKHAIR_34=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Syp+KMNER-Gq for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:ba:230:48ff:fe43:1456]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72DF33A6866 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6087FEF9; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982637FE2D for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560721421FD for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2VfI4MMnG3TO for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daboo.name (unknown [151.201.22.177]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B4B1421F2 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD7A6F1EF7; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:50:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daboo.name Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chewy.mulberrymail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YMMa7DvNrD3E; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (unknown [10.0.1.8]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCF56F1EEC; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 20:50:01 -0400 From: Cyrus Daboo To: Tim Hare , ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: RE: [Ietf-calsify] Issue 86 Message-ID: <0C634A30F2B37383011B7CD4@ninevah.local> In-Reply-To: <20080311140745.076733E8395@daboo.name> References: <20080311140745.076733E8395@daboo.name> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Errors-To: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Hi Tim, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this. --On March 11, 2008 10:07:42 AM -0400 Tim Hare wrote: > It seems as though we are somehow specifying how the CUA interacts with > the user (whether to be notified or not, etcetera). This, to me, does not > belong in iTIP . iTIP should be solely about the exchange of calendaring > information between two calendaring tools; adding CUA<->user interaction > is really outside the scope of iTIP. As such, it adds un-needed > complexity to the document which doesn't advance the goals of > simplification and interoperability. So there was some discussion of this at the IETF meeting, and I think most people there were not worried by this. I think iTIP is about the exchange and processing of scheduling messages and I think guidance on how to handle SEQUENCE changes is relevant. That said I think the proposed text can be "toned down" a little bit by not talking about calendar users in a direct manner: Whilst a change in SEQUENCE number is indicative of a significant change to a previously scheduled item, ATTENDEE CUAs SHOULD NOT rely solely on a change in SEQUENCE as a means of detecting a significant change. Instead CUAs SHOULD compare the old and new versions of the calendar components and determine the exact nature of the changes and make decisions, possibly based on calendar user preferences, as to whether the user needs to be explicitly informed of the change. -- Cyrus Daboo _______________________________________________ Ietf-calsify mailing list Ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-calsify From ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Tue May 6 18:42:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D54F3A67EF for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qAaw5J5R6fnu for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:ba:230:48ff:fe43:1456]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A363C28C152 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4822809E6; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EEA80821 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D0D1421FD for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qfk36vx9n84t for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daboo.name (unknown [151.201.22.177]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38F41421F6 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB706F25CF; Tue, 6 May 2008 21:42:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daboo.name Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chewy.mulberrymail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AXoUqGPmW-zn; Tue, 6 May 2008 21:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (unknown [10.0.1.8]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5AE6F25BF; Tue, 6 May 2008 21:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 21:42:25 -0400 From: Cyrus Daboo To: Tim Hare , ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: RE: [Ietf-calsify] Issue 95: text on REQUEST-STATUS Message-ID: <0C14A33EADAE261D6E06E2BD@ninevah.local> In-Reply-To: <20080311141047.2CA703E8413@daboo.name> References: <20080311141047.2CA703E8413@daboo.name> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Errors-To: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Hi Tim, --On March 11, 2008 10:10:40 AM -0400 Tim Hare wrote: > "Additional codes MAY be used provided it is known that the recipient's > CUA has appropriate knowledge of such codes." > > This is not a good thing for interoperability. CUA-specific status codes > need to be an X- component (ex: X-MYCAL-REQUEST-STATUS). The only way one > end can know for certain the other end "has appropriate knowledge of such > codes" is if both are from the same vendor. > The alternative is to create a registry of status codes. I am not thrilled by that prospect but it is the best thing for interoperability. I also think that there are likely to be iTIP based protocols that will need their own specific codes (e.g. there is some useful status in CalDAV scheduling that could be conveyed in new codes). Anyone else think the status codes should be in a registry. -- Cyrus Daboo _______________________________________________ Ietf-calsify mailing list Ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-calsify From ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Tue May 6 19:56:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469433A6AD8 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:56:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GNGLxRAPq3Rz for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:ba:230:48ff:fe43:1456]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DEA3A67B2 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D02808BE; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:55:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0A580821 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99F01421FD for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:55:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rWZHrf0WjbFR for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCDA1421F6 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ND881Z00L17dt5G550jJ00; Wed, 07 May 2008 02:54:59 +0000 Received: from THare ([71.203.100.120]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id NSvQ1Z0032brFRz3Z00000; Wed, 07 May 2008 02:55:29 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=w8aN7dnRmkIA:10 a=4L3XzRfvqyMA:10 a=MWABKXdZcPkn32avJcwA:9 a=zpO8wq0zuZSeJMzswxiN_aKaojUA:4 a=YewFc9KQ5U8A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 From: "Tim Hare" To: "'Cyrus Daboo'" , Subject: RE: [Ietf-calsify] Issue 95: text on REQUEST-STATUS Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 22:55:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: Aciv46H5f53LaQAIS+2ym+aWcKvv/gACbCvA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <0C14A33EADAE261D6E06E2BD@ninevah.local> Message-Id: <20080507025533.1FCDA1421F6@laweleka.osafoundation.org> X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Errors-To: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org I don't have a strong opinon about a registry, not having a lot of experience with them; my point is that only those codes which are defined in the document should be used in a non X- component. That could be done by enumerating those interoperable codes in the RFC document, I suppose although the registry has the advantage of allow us to include new codes 'by reference' rather than having to revise the RFC again. Tim Hare Interested Bystander, Non-Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Cyrus Daboo [mailto:cyrus@daboo.name] Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:42 PM To: Tim Hare; ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: RE: [Ietf-calsify] Issue 95: text on REQUEST-STATUS Hi Tim, --On March 11, 2008 10:10:40 AM -0400 Tim Hare wrote: > "Additional codes MAY be used provided it is known that the > recipient's CUA has appropriate knowledge of such codes." > > This is not a good thing for interoperability. CUA-specific status > codes need to be an X- component (ex: X-MYCAL-REQUEST-STATUS). The > only way one end can know for certain the other end "has appropriate > knowledge of such codes" is if both are from the same vendor. > The alternative is to create a registry of status codes. I am not thrilled by that prospect but it is the best thing for interoperability. I also think that there are likely to be iTIP based protocols that will need their own specific codes (e.g. there is some useful status in CalDAV scheduling that could be conveyed in new codes). Anyone else think the status codes should be in a registry. -- Cyrus Daboo _______________________________________________ Ietf-calsify mailing list Ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-calsify From ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Tue May 6 20:26:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3BC3A6C17 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.349 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.349 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oD3clRi4tAtE for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:ba:230:48ff:fe43:1456]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7194D3A707C for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674FE80A17; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D849D809E6 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D4C1421FD for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ymcBLqjz0UZF for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daboo.name (unknown [151.201.22.177]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3B81421F6 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDA46F3275; Tue, 6 May 2008 23:26:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daboo.name Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chewy.mulberrymail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7UUbe-MuV0Ml; Tue, 6 May 2008 23:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (unknown [10.0.1.8]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200366F326A; Tue, 6 May 2008 23:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 23:26:33 -0400 From: Cyrus Daboo To: Tim Hare , ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: RE: [Ietf-calsify] Issue 95: text on REQUEST-STATUS Message-ID: <532263FF926B6C1FFAC917F7@ninevah.local> In-Reply-To: <20080507025531.D6F746F2EC4@daboo.name> References: <20080507025531.D6F746F2EC4@daboo.name> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Errors-To: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Hi Tim, --On May 6, 2008 10:55:26 PM -0400 Tim Hare wrote: > I don't have a strong opinon about a registry, not having a lot of > experience with them; my point is that only those codes which are defined > in the document should be used in a non X- component. That could be done > by enumerating those interoperable codes in the RFC document, I suppose > although the registry has the advantage of allow us to include new codes > 'by reference' rather than having to revise the RFC again. > Well we could just say that new codes must be defined in a standards track RFC. That way other specs can add there own and review of those can ensure there are no clashes -- Cyrus Daboo _______________________________________________ Ietf-calsify mailing list Ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-calsify From ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Sun May 11 20:15:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7883A6B67 for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UWpwshMlqxmg for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.93]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7849F3A676A for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1407C8058A; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075A07FEF9 for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDF0142209 for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Gh8nESTV3jP for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [64.170.98.32]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4D21421FD for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id EB9493A6B42; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080512031501.EB9493A6B42@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: [Ietf-calsify] I-D Action:draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Errors-To: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification Working Group of the IETF. Title : iCalendar Transport-Independent Interoperability Protocol (iTIP) Author(s) : C. Daboo Filename : draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt Pages : 124 Date : 2008-05-11 This document specifies a protocol using the iCalendar object specification to provide scheduling interoperability between different calendar systems. This is done without reference to a specific transport protocol so as to allow multiple methods of communication between systems. Subsequent documents will define profiles of this protocol using specific interoperable methods of communications between systems. iTIP complements the iCalendar object specification by adding semantics for group scheduling methods commonly available in current calendar systems. These scheduling methods permit two or more calendar systems to perform transactions such as publish, schedule, reschedule, respond to scheduling requests, negotiation of changes or cancel. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-05-11200406.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Ietf-calsify mailing list Ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-calsify --NextPart-- From ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Mon May 12 12:32:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136D43A6916 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:32:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EnVv5ytkelsF for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.93]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F533A67E1 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0137FE2D; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796CA7FCD8 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B214220C for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IpIur+NEnkF4 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [64.170.98.32]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB48B142209 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id EF11E3A67CE; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080512193001.EF11E3A67CE@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: [Ietf-calsify] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2447bis-04.txt X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Errors-To: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification Working Group of the IETF. Title : iCalendar Message-Based Interoperability Protocol (iMIP) Author(s) : A. Melnikov Filename : draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2447bis-04.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2008-5-12 This document, iCalendar Message-Based Interoperability Protocol (iMIP), specifies a binding from the iCalendar Transport-independent Interoperability Protocol (iTIP) to Internet email-based transports. Calendaring entries defined by the iCalendar Object Model (iCAL) are composed using constructs from RFC 2822, RFC 2045, RFC 2046, RFC 2047 and RFC 2049. This document is a product of Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification (calsify) working group. More information about the IETF CALSIFY working group activities can be found on the IETF web site at . The issue tracker for the Calsify WG is located at: A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2447bis-04.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2447bis-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-5-12122048.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Ietf-calsify mailing list Ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-calsify --NextPart-- From ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Tue May 13 02:03:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35BE3A68B0 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:03:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SzSaC3rAeDFR for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.93]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6F53A67A5 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2B37FCC0; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936157F52A for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405C01421F2 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RUDl4LsVZLm5 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA611421FD for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:02:29 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,478,1204498800"; d="scan'208";a="8715517" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 May 2008 11:02:23 +0200 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m4D92NMb011546 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 11:02:23 +0200 Received: from adsl-247-6-fixip.tiscali.ch (ams3-vpn-dhcp247.cisco.com [10.61.64.247]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4D92M9S016857 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 09:02:22 GMT Message-ID: <4829591E.1060806@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:02:22 +0200 From: Eliot Lear User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=201; t=1210669343; x=1211533343; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=lear@cisco.com; z=From:=20Eliot=20Lear=20 |Subject:=20RFC2446bis |Sender:=20; bh=hiuEvuntAv7ky4p8/KFo4Xui96l0rwW4quO/dAgubLQ=; b=eDDjgJf2RZkH22DqRd2k6xNIIe3WsujxyJobEQsHj3PQWMoaZcsLiCCOG7 jzgDHgNOiwmamym4OqF8DTlauwZISLRy5sPmXSlmHN+QEoih0VJOf5FqzPLD vV5A1POxKE; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=lear@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); Subject: [Ietf-calsify] RFC2446bis X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Errors-To: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Dear all, Cyrus believes he has resolved all outstanding issues with RFC2446bis. I encourage everyone to read this draft, and anticipate a working group last call shortly. Thanks, Eliot _______________________________________________ Ietf-calsify mailing list Ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-calsify From ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Thu May 15 06:28:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-calsify-archive-Feit0ahl@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E8A3A67AA for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:28:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.849 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.849 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.750, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c31NIUOCajx8 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.93]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A56E53A67A2 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leilani.osafoundation.org (leilani.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FE47F521; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0781D7F512 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832AC14220C for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qs1KvctM0AyJ for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B342A142203 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,491,1204498800"; d="scan'208";a="8987140" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 May 2008 15:27:34 +0200 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m4FDRYSs014737 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 15:27:34 +0200 Received: from adsl-247-6-fixip.tiscali.ch (ams3-vpn-dhcp4269.cisco.com [10.61.80.172]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4FDRXcA013004 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 13:27:34 GMT Message-ID: <482C3A45.1010300@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:27:33 +0200 From: Eliot Lear User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=542; t=1210858054; x=1211722054; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=lear@cisco.com; z=From:=20Eliot=20Lear=20 |Subject:=20WGLC=3A=20draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt=20= 20&&=20IETF=20Dublin |Sender:=20; bh=9idyJU6cK+hd80vInAQQ5FABeu0nEfnRLxkZB9lC6tI=; b=mGjgNI9xZ4+wIw1IjyuyHFs+piXQMaHew4Mdl0mcwGNdFwlga2loV0Tmak QVLVGeLsW1Hi+Kdb4ZqgjtEF8MWLi5BsXP5aahL8hL7sLHjPxFUjqTeaywmB vhhGL26aos; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=lear@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); Subject: [Ietf-calsify] WGLC: draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt && IETF Dublin X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Errors-To: ietf-calsify-bounces@osafoundation.org Dear all, This message begins working group last call on draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt. The last call will run for one month and end on June 15. Please send all comments regarding this draft to ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org. The chairs solicit both positive comments and requests for change. We ask that if possibly any requests for change include specific textual recommendations. Assuming we do not get bogged down in comments, the chairs do not contemplate at this time a meeting in Dublin. Thanks, Eliot _______________________________________________ Ietf-calsify mailing list Ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-calsify Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0781D7F512 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832AC14220C for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -4.085 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.085 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=2.515, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qs1KvctM0AyJ for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B342A142203 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 06:27:46 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,491,1204498800"; d="scan'208";a="8987140" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 May 2008 15:27:34 +0200 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m4FDRYSs014737 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 15:27:34 +0200 Received: from adsl-247-6-fixip.tiscali.ch (ams3-vpn-dhcp4269.cisco.com [10.61.80.172]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4FDRXcA013004 for ; Thu, 15 May 2008 13:27:34 GMT Message-ID: <482C3A45.1010300@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 15:27:33 +0200 From: Eliot Lear User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=542; t=1210858054; x=1211722054; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=lear@cisco.com; z=From:=20Eliot=20Lear=20 |Subject:=20WGLC=3A=20draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt=20= 20&&=20IETF=20Dublin |Sender:=20; bh=9idyJU6cK+hd80vInAQQ5FABeu0nEfnRLxkZB9lC6tI=; b=mGjgNI9xZ4+wIw1IjyuyHFs+piXQMaHew4Mdl0mcwGNdFwlga2loV0Tmak QVLVGeLsW1Hi+Kdb4ZqgjtEF8MWLi5BsXP5aahL8hL7sLHjPxFUjqTeaywmB vhhGL26aos; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=lear@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); Subject: [Ietf-calsify] WGLC: draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt && IETF Dublin X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 13:27:56 -0000 Dear all, This message begins working group last call on draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt. The last call will run for one month and end on June 15. Please send all comments regarding this draft to ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org. The chairs solicit both positive comments and requests for change. We ask that if possibly any requests for change include specific textual recommendations. Assuming we do not get bogged down in comments, the chairs do not contemplate at this time a meeting in Dublin. Thanks, Eliot Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936157F52A for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405C01421F2 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -2.01 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.01 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.455, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RUDl4LsVZLm5 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA611421FD for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 02:02:29 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,478,1204498800"; d="scan'208";a="8715517" Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 May 2008 11:02:23 +0200 Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m4D92NMb011546 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 11:02:23 +0200 Received: from adsl-247-6-fixip.tiscali.ch (ams3-vpn-dhcp247.cisco.com [10.61.64.247]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m4D92M9S016857 for ; Tue, 13 May 2008 09:02:22 GMT Message-ID: <4829591E.1060806@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 11:02:22 +0200 From: Eliot Lear User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; l=201; t=1210669343; x=1211533343; c=relaxed/simple; s=amsdkim1002; h=Content-Type:From:Subject:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; d=cisco.com; i=lear@cisco.com; z=From:=20Eliot=20Lear=20 |Subject:=20RFC2446bis |Sender:=20; bh=hiuEvuntAv7ky4p8/KFo4Xui96l0rwW4quO/dAgubLQ=; b=eDDjgJf2RZkH22DqRd2k6xNIIe3WsujxyJobEQsHj3PQWMoaZcsLiCCOG7 jzgDHgNOiwmamym4OqF8DTlauwZISLRy5sPmXSlmHN+QEoih0VJOf5FqzPLD vV5A1POxKE; Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=lear@cisco.com; dkim=pass ( sig from cisco.com/amsdkim1002 verified; ); Subject: [Ietf-calsify] RFC2446bis X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:02:36 -0000 Dear all, Cyrus believes he has resolved all outstanding issues with RFC2446bis. I encourage everyone to read this draft, and anticipate a working group last call shortly. Thanks, Eliot Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796CA7FCD8 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8B214220C for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -0.824 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.824 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.536, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.278, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IpIur+NEnkF4 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [64.170.98.32]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB48B142209 for ; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id EF11E3A67CE; Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080512193001.EF11E3A67CE@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 12:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: [Ietf-calsify] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2447bis-04.txt X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 19:30:08 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification Working Group of the IETF. Title : iCalendar Message-Based Interoperability Protocol (iMIP) Author(s) : A. Melnikov Filename : draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2447bis-04.txt Pages : 21 Date : 2008-5-12 This document, iCalendar Message-Based Interoperability Protocol (iMIP), specifies a binding from the iCalendar Transport-independent Interoperability Protocol (iTIP) to Internet email-based transports. Calendaring entries defined by the iCalendar Object Model (iCAL) are composed using constructs from RFC 2822, RFC 2045, RFC 2046, RFC 2047 and RFC 2049. This document is a product of Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification (calsify) working group. More information about the IETF CALSIFY working group activities can be found on the IETF web site at . The issue tracker for the Calsify WG is located at: A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2447bis-04.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2447bis-04.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-5-12122048.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 075A07FEF9 for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADDF0142209 for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -0.825 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.825 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.535, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.278, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Gh8nESTV3jP for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [64.170.98.32]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4D21421FD for ; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id EB9493A6B42; Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080512031501.EB9493A6B42@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 20:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: [Ietf-calsify] I-D Action:draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 03:15:06 -0000 --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Calendaring and Scheduling Standards Simplification Working Group of the IETF. Title : iCalendar Transport-Independent Interoperability Protocol (iTIP) Author(s) : C. Daboo Filename : draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt Pages : 124 Date : 2008-05-11 This document specifies a protocol using the iCalendar object specification to provide scheduling interoperability between different calendar systems. This is done without reference to a specific transport protocol so as to allow multiple methods of communication between systems. Subsequent documents will define profiles of this protocol using specific interoperable methods of communications between systems. iTIP complements the iCalendar object specification by adding semantics for group scheduling methods commonly available in current calendar systems. These scheduling methods permit two or more calendar systems to perform transactions such as publish, schedule, reschedule, respond to scheduling requests, negotiation of changes or cancel. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-calsify-2446bis-06.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2008-05-11200406.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D849D809E6 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D4C1421FD for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -2.366 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.366 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.098, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ymcBLqjz0UZF for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daboo.name (unknown [151.201.22.177]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A3B81421F6 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDDA46F3275; Tue, 6 May 2008 23:26:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daboo.name Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chewy.mulberrymail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7UUbe-MuV0Ml; Tue, 6 May 2008 23:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (unknown [10.0.1.8]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200366F326A; Tue, 6 May 2008 23:26:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 23:26:33 -0400 From: Cyrus Daboo To: Tim Hare , ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: RE: [Ietf-calsify] Issue 95: text on REQUEST-STATUS Message-ID: <532263FF926B6C1FFAC917F7@ninevah.local> In-Reply-To: <20080507025531.D6F746F2EC4@daboo.name> References: <20080507025531.D6F746F2EC4@daboo.name> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 03:26:43 -0000 Hi Tim, --On May 6, 2008 10:55:26 PM -0400 Tim Hare wrote: > I don't have a strong opinon about a registry, not having a lot of > experience with them; my point is that only those codes which are defined > in the document should be used in a non X- component. That could be done > by enumerating those interoperable codes in the RFC document, I suppose > although the registry has the advantage of allow us to include new codes > 'by reference' rather than having to revise the RFC again. > Well we could just say that new codes must be defined in a standards track RFC. That way other specs can add there own and review of those can ensure there are no clashes -- Cyrus Daboo Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF0A580821 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99F01421FD for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:55:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: 0.307 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.307 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=-0.194, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.708, MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID=1.393, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rWZHrf0WjbFR for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:55:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FCDA1421F6 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 19:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ND881Z00L17dt5G550jJ00; Wed, 07 May 2008 02:54:59 +0000 Received: from THare ([71.203.100.120]) by OMTA13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id NSvQ1Z0032brFRz3Z00000; Wed, 07 May 2008 02:55:29 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=w8aN7dnRmkIA:10 a=4L3XzRfvqyMA:10 a=MWABKXdZcPkn32avJcwA:9 a=zpO8wq0zuZSeJMzswxiN_aKaojUA:4 a=YewFc9KQ5U8A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 From: "Tim Hare" To: "'Cyrus Daboo'" , Subject: RE: [Ietf-calsify] Issue 95: text on REQUEST-STATUS Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 22:55:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: Aciv46H5f53LaQAIS+2ym+aWcKvv/gACbCvA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <0C14A33EADAE261D6E06E2BD@ninevah.local> Message-Id: <20080507025533.1FCDA1421F6@laweleka.osafoundation.org> X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 02:55:37 -0000 I don't have a strong opinon about a registry, not having a lot of experience with them; my point is that only those codes which are defined in the document should be used in a non X- component. That could be done by enumerating those interoperable codes in the RFC document, I suppose although the registry has the advantage of allow us to include new codes 'by reference' rather than having to revise the RFC again. Tim Hare Interested Bystander, Non-Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Cyrus Daboo [mailto:cyrus@daboo.name] Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:42 PM To: Tim Hare; ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: RE: [Ietf-calsify] Issue 95: text on REQUEST-STATUS Hi Tim, --On March 11, 2008 10:10:40 AM -0400 Tim Hare wrote: > "Additional codes MAY be used provided it is known that the > recipient's CUA has appropriate knowledge of such codes." > > This is not a good thing for interoperability. CUA-specific status > codes need to be an X- component (ex: X-MYCAL-REQUEST-STATUS). The > only way one end can know for certain the other end "has appropriate > knowledge of such codes" is if both are from the same vendor. > The alternative is to create a registry of status codes. I am not thrilled by that prospect but it is the best thing for interoperability. I also think that there are likely to be iTIP based protocols that will need their own specific codes (e.g. there is some useful status in CalDAV scheduling that could be conveyed in new codes). Anyone else think the status codes should be in a registry. -- Cyrus Daboo Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EEA80821 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D0D1421FD for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -2.364 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.364 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qfk36vx9n84t for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daboo.name (unknown [151.201.22.177]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38F41421F6 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB706F25CF; Tue, 6 May 2008 21:42:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daboo.name Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chewy.mulberrymail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AXoUqGPmW-zn; Tue, 6 May 2008 21:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (unknown [10.0.1.8]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5AE6F25BF; Tue, 6 May 2008 21:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 21:42:25 -0400 From: Cyrus Daboo To: Tim Hare , ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: RE: [Ietf-calsify] Issue 95: text on REQUEST-STATUS Message-ID: <0C14A33EADAE261D6E06E2BD@ninevah.local> In-Reply-To: <20080311141047.2CA703E8413@daboo.name> References: <20080311141047.2CA703E8413@daboo.name> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 01:42:36 -0000 Hi Tim, --On March 11, 2008 10:10:40 AM -0400 Tim Hare wrote: > "Additional codes MAY be used provided it is known that the recipient's > CUA has appropriate knowledge of such codes." > > This is not a good thing for interoperability. CUA-specific status codes > need to be an X- component (ex: X-MYCAL-REQUEST-STATUS). The only way one > end can know for certain the other end "has appropriate knowledge of such > codes" is if both are from the same vendor. > The alternative is to create a registry of status codes. I am not thrilled by that prospect but it is the best thing for interoperability. I also think that there are likely to be iTIP based protocols that will need their own specific codes (e.g. there is some useful status in CalDAV scheduling that could be conveyed in new codes). Anyone else think the status codes should be in a registry. -- Cyrus Daboo Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982637FE2D for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560721421FD for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Score: -2.362 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.362 tagged_above=-50 required=4 tests=[AWL=0.102, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2VfI4MMnG3TO for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daboo.name (unknown [151.201.22.177]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5B4B1421F2 for ; Tue, 6 May 2008 17:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD7A6F1EF7; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:50:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at daboo.name Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (chewy.mulberrymail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YMMa7DvNrD3E; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.1.8] (unknown [10.0.1.8]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCF56F1EEC; Tue, 6 May 2008 20:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 20:50:01 -0400 From: Cyrus Daboo To: Tim Hare , ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org Subject: RE: [Ietf-calsify] Issue 86 Message-ID: <0C634A30F2B37383011B7CD4@ninevah.local> In-Reply-To: <20080311140745.076733E8395@daboo.name> References: <20080311140745.076733E8395@daboo.name> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: ietf-calsify@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "RFC2445, 2446 and 2447 Discusions" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 00:50:11 -0000 Hi Tim, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this. --On March 11, 2008 10:07:42 AM -0400 Tim Hare wrote: > It seems as though we are somehow specifying how the CUA interacts with > the user (whether to be notified or not, etcetera). This, to me, does not > belong in iTIP . iTIP should be solely about the exchange of calendaring > information between two calendaring tools; adding CUA<->user interaction > is really outside the scope of iTIP. As such, it adds un-needed > complexity to the document which doesn't advance the goals of > simplification and interoperability. So there was some discussion of this at the IETF meeting, and I think most people there were not worried by this. I think iTIP is about the exchange and processing of scheduling messages and I think guidance on how to handle SEQUENCE changes is relevant. That said I think the proposed text can be "toned down" a little bit by not talking about calendar users in a direct manner: Whilst a change in SEQUENCE number is indicative of a significant change to a previously scheduled item, ATTENDEE CUAs SHOULD NOT rely solely on a change in SEQUENCE as a means of detecting a significant change. Instead CUAs SHOULD compare the old and new versions of the calendar components and determine the exact nature of the changes and make decisions, possibly based on calendar user preferences, as to whether the user needs to be explicitly informed of the change. -- Cyrus Daboo