From nobody Tue Sep 2 06:47:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A158C1A013B; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 00:42:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.149 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LftOz8aqiJTz; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 00:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from www52.your-server.de (www52.your-server.de [213.133.104.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BAC41A0115; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 00:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [88.198.220.130] (helo=sslproxy01.your-server.de) by www52.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XOMG6-0001MX-R4; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:42:38 +0200 Received: from [217.6.112.194] (helo=[172.16.102.127]) by sslproxy01.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XOMG3-0008TW-49; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:42:35 +0200 Message-ID: <54042363.7080505@burnicki.net> Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:42:27 +0200 From: Martin Burnicki User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cyrus Daboo , Tim Hare , 'Bradley White' , tzdist@ietf.org, calsify@ietf.org References: <618B0C114A25A593E80BD07B@cyrus.local> <041f01cfc344$bd22ca40$37685ec0$@net> <54008739.30904@burnicki.net> <539248E17792833A55F74774@caldav.corp.apple.com> In-Reply-To: <539248E17792833A55F74774@caldav.corp.apple.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Authenticated-Sender: mailout@burnicki.net X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.98.4/19317/Sun Aug 31 07:18:51 2014) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/7SD5-nYVdJhh_Rjrwxs29xUP8xo X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:47:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [calsify] [Tzdist] Time Zone Distribution Protocol X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 07:42:44 -0000 Hi Cyrus, Cyrus Daboo wrote: > Hi Martin, > > --On August 29, 2014 at 3:59:21 PM +0200 Martin Burnicki > wrote: > >>> 2. My proposal was for DNS to return *all* the timezone file when >>> receiving some sort of specialized query (which I hadn't determined), >>> rather than trying to return data for just one timezone. Timezone data >>> needs to be usable "offline" and pulling the entire file is, in my >>> opinion, the best way to have an offline copy. >> >> I absolutely agree. +1 > > I disagree. There are obvious use cases where only one or two time zones > might be needed. e.g., "internet of things" devices - my home thermostat > only needs one time zone - namely the one where my house is. Such > devices may have a limited memory capacity, and even though time zone > data isn't huge, it would still be a waste to store it all when only one > is being used. The original message said "to return *all* the timezone file when receiving some sort of specialized query" so my understanding was that there should be one command which retrieves *all* current TZ data, but of course there should be different commands to query only selected data. So embedded devices could just pull the data they need to keep a single TZ up to date, but full-featured computers could pull all TZ information, so when users want to select a different time zone then all available zones are up to date. Martin -- Martin Burnicki Senior Software Engineer MEINBERG Funkuhren GmbH & Co. KG Email: martin.burnicki@meinberg.de Phone: +49 (0)5281 9309-14 Fax: +49 (0)5281 9309-30 Lange Wand 9, 31812 Bad Pyrmont, Germany Amtsgericht Hannover 17HRA 100322 Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Günter Meinberg, Werner Meinberg, Andre Hartmann, Heiko Gerstung Web: http://www.meinberg.de From nobody Tue Sep 9 08:31:46 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAC41A6FC9 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:31:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mWMU1xwsXzpw for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oa0-x230.google.com (mail-oa0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c02::230]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 273E11A6FB3 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id m1so11792381oag.21 for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:31:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=m/7A/51CZCMsN3CAMmftGbegZoPOcv2y9DW7BxMPIRU=; b=TBD4JXNz1UMc8Y+FstGV0PxVSy9opz3jgiVZOG9WP+cIUl2+8f5VauGSeDrDokiFmA o4Z8h9cZ9uAaj+o4lUQCdE2vDJhB3LEa/9jQ805UZtlqvHe0E90+eF+jFmiSl6qG+TUZ 5HtL8LtNmUCaLZtKKSCekiRWLtWOQjHEHD6LXYD37aoz/Q64/BzGDCcrqJu+Uh7Muiwd tCoHLf8HJQBX+lp9B6m5YRCIPJ3EV0PCuYNIvVA6vn+qGH26p8w+jQlxYQQjYzwQLMqy LxprSO5h5muQH4lzfHVTHGDx3ciWikYCpmtEEEKTBNSMeRItD7GgMgh5K9Mf8zupB7Bh S1/A== X-Received: by 10.182.94.230 with SMTP id df6mr39869912obb.36.1410276700672; Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:31:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.20.148 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:31:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Donald Eastlake Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 11:31:20 -0400 Message-ID: To: calsify@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/j2JhxGTqJIEFlliK2ZIQWErJmsg Subject: [calsify] Introduction, Donald Eastlake X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:31:45 -0000 Hi, I thought I should introduce myself, since I'm one of your new co-Chairs for the CALEXT Working Group. I have a fair amount of experience as an IETF WG Chair and I hope that experience can be useful in smoothing and expediting things for CALEXT. I am currently co-chair of TRILL and was chair for a while of PPPEXT. I also have some background in XML and was chair of the TRADE and ECML WGs, both of which used XML, and co-chair of the XMLDSIG WG. If you want to reach my co-Chair Amanda Anganes and myself, you can email to calext-chairs@tools.ietf.org (note that that's at tools.ietf.org, not ietf.org). Thanks, Donald ============================= Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com From nobody Tue Sep 9 08:52:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F381C1A6FE9 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:52:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.952 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.952 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.652] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ua_dbEx2bmBP for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D7A1A0977 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 08:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 645251F05D0 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 11:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCCAS01.MITRE.ORG (imccas01.mitre.org [129.83.29.78]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB441F0305 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 11:51:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX04.MITRE.ORG ([169.254.4.96]) by IMCCAS01.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.68]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 11:51:58 -0400 From: "Anganes, Amanda L" To: "calsify@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Introduction, Amanda Anganes Thread-Index: AQHPzEX8ZvWi4hWmrkC8hK9LG2goJQ== Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 15:51:56 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [10.146.16.75] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D0349A5D2016Daanganesmitreorg_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/zDLJzXDe7cRTaWCtoUyyxMAJnsQ Subject: [calsify] Introduction, Amanda Anganes X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 15:52:01 -0000 --_000_D0349A5D2016Daanganesmitreorg_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, As we kick off the Calext WG, I'd like to introduce myself to the existing = members of the calsify list and anyone new who may have joined after the WG= was officially started. I am one of your co-chairs, along with Donald East= lake, and I'm looking forward to diving into the world of iCalendar with yo= u all. My previous IETF experience has been with the OAuth and JOSE working groups= , and I also contributed to the OpenID Connect specifications through the O= penID Foundation. This will be my first co-Chair position, so I'd be happy = to receive any feedback you may have as we go along. As Donald mentioned in his email, you can always reach both of us via the c= alext-chairs@tools.ietf.org mailing list, or feel free to email me directly= . Thanks, --Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Anganes | 781-271-3103 | aanganes@mitre.org The MITRE Corporation | K83C: Collaboration & Social Computing --_000_D0349A5D2016Daanganesmitreorg_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1B53550D61B90A428F18ED04ABD73AEB@imc.mitre.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi everyone,

As we kick off the Calext WG, I'd like to introduce myself to the exis= ting members of the calsify list and anyone new who may have joined after t= he WG was officially started. I am one of your co-chairs, along with Donald= Eastlake, and I'm looking forward to diving into the world of iCalendar with you all. 

My previous IETF experience has been with the OAuth and JOSE working g= roups, and I also contributed to the OpenID Connect specifications through = the OpenID Foundation. This will be my first co-Chair position, so I'd be h= appy to receive any feedback you may have as we go along. 

As Donald mentioned in his email, you can always reach both of us via = the calext-chairs@tools.ietf.org mailing list, or feel free to email me dir= ectly.

Thanks,

--Amanda

------------------------
Amanda Anganes | 781-271-3103 | aanganes@mitre.org
The MITRE Corporation | K83C: Collaboration & Social Computing


--_000_D0349A5D2016Daanganesmitreorg_-- From nobody Wed Sep 10 12:37:38 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD9C1A875E for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:37:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.652 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.652 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.652] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I2rUx2dLaJ61 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:37:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.157.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 52CFD1A877F for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-76-180-151-43.buffalo.res.rr.com [76.180.151.43]) (user=murch mech=PLAIN (0 bits)) by smtp.andrew.cmu.edu (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s8AJb1kZ005622 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:37:02 -0400 Message-ID: <5410A85D.4090907@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:37:01 -0400 From: Ken Murchison Organization: Carnegie Mellon University User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: calsify@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080606030707080003060207" X-PMX-Version: 6.0.3.2322014, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2014.9.10.193024 X-SMTP-Spam-Clean: 27% ( SXL_IP_DYNAMIC 3, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS 0, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, DATE_TZ_NA 0, FROM_EDU_TLD 0, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED 0, RDNS_POOLED 0, RDNS_RESIDENTIAL 0, RDNS_SUSP 0, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC 0, RDNS_SUSP_SPECIFIC 0, __ANY_URI 0, __BAT_BOUNDARY 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT 0, __HAS_FROM 0, __HAS_HTML 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_HTML 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __MOZILLA_MSGID 0, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT 0, __RDNS_POOLED_1 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __SUBJ_ALPHA_START 0, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __TO_NO_NAME 0, __URI_NO_MAILTO 0, __URI_NS , __USER_AGENT 0) X-SMTP-Spam-Score: 27% X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 on 128.2.157.39 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/e6XZAy-lSH8xRCAcgXwJnFYjUUA Subject: [calsify] calext "wish list" X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 19:37:31 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080606030707080003060207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, As someone that has a working RSCALE implementation in my CalDAV server (based on libical and ICU4C), I'd love to see this draft be taken on early in the WG milestones. I also have a working VAVAILABILITY implementation that I plan to interop test at the upcoming CalConnect Conference so I have a keen interest in this draft as well. Looking forward to working with everyone. -- Kenneth Murchison Principal Systems Software Engineer Carnegie Mellon University --------------080606030707080003060207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all,

As someone that has a working RSCALE implementation in my CalDAV server (based on libical and ICU4C), I'd love to see this draft be taken on early in the WG milestones.

I also have a working VAVAILABILITY implementation that I plan to interop test at the upcoming CalConnect Conference so I have a keen interest in this draft as well.

Looking forward to working with everyone.
-- 
Kenneth Murchison
Principal Systems Software Engineer
Carnegie Mellon University
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A few words on why I think RSCALE ( http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale) draft is important to adopt as soon as possible. For most of us in the Western World, the Gregorian calendar is the only system we use, and its easy to assume the same for everybody else. But for most people in the world this is not actually true: there are various Islamic, Chinese, Korean, Hindu, Jewish calendaring systems that people use for various purposes. In some countries one of these is the only official calendar. Most people getting online in the next few years, billions of them, will need some non-Gregorian calendar for their daily life. Most of the issues with non-Gregorian calendars can be solved client-side. Clients can show same event in any grid, and show dates in any system. But this approach fails for recurring events: something that happens every Islamic month or every Chinese year, birthdays or anniversaries for example. RSCALE draft adds necessary iCalendar functionality to address this need. The draft was extensively discussed both at CalConnect and on this list. It was first put for discussion here more than a year ago. At this point we have at least 3 known implementations, including my implementation for Google Calendar. I believe it is important to make progress here, because lack of recognized standard in this area leads to every vendor creating their own extensions that nobody else understands. Thus breaking interoperability and damaging the ecosystem. Already we see some API clients trying to put RRULEs with X-LUNARYEAR=TRUE parameter into our system, which we fail to parse. As more people get online in China, India and other countries this problem will only get worse. Hoping for speedy adoption of the RSCALE draft, Grisha (@Google) --089e01161d2c84bd440502dabc50 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everybody!

A few words on why I think RSCALE (http://tools.ietf= .org/html/draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale) draft is important to adopt as = soon as possible.

For most of us in the Western Worl= d, the Gregorian calendar is the only system we use, and its easy to assume= the same for everybody else. But for most people in the world this is not = actually true: there are various Islamic, Chinese, Korean, Hindu, Jewish ca= lendaring systems that people use for various purposes. In some countries o= ne of these is the only official calendar. Most people getting online in th= e next few years, billions of them, will need some non-Gregorian calendar f= or their daily life.

Most of the issue= s with non-Gregorian calendars can be solved client-side. Clients can show = same event in any grid, and show dates in any system. But this approach fai= ls for recurring events: something that happens every Islamic month or ever= y Chinese year, birthdays or anniversaries for example. RSCALE draft adds n= ecessary iCalendar functionality to address this need.

=
The draft was extensively discussed both at CalConnect and on this lis= t. It was first put for discussion here more than a year ago. At this point= we have at least 3 known implementations, including my implementation for = Google Calendar.

I believe it is important to make= progress here, because lack of recognized standard in this area leads to e= very vendor creating their own extensions that nobody else understands. Thu= s breaking interoperability and damaging the ecosystem. Already we see some= API clients trying to put RRULEs with X-LUNARYEAR=3DTRUE parameter into ou= r system, which we fail to parse. As more people get online in China, India= and other countries this problem will only get worse.

=
Hoping for speedy adoption of the RSCALE draft,
Grisha (@Goo= gle)
--089e01161d2c84bd440502dabc50-- From nobody Fri Sep 12 07:04:14 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DEAA1A6ED8 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:04:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.652] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A_sSkUzm063j for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtptsrv1.mitre.org (smtptsrv1.mitre.org [192.52.194.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9531A6F2A for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtptsrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A9F9C506C4; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCCAS01.MITRE.ORG (imccas01.mitre.org [129.83.29.78]) by smtptsrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E88C506F1; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:04:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX04.MITRE.ORG ([169.254.4.96]) by IMCCAS01.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.68]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:04:06 -0400 From: "Anganes, Amanda L" To: "calsify@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Call for WG Adoption: draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 Thread-Index: AQHPzpJqIACYXrz3gEOYBHt9E8pEVA== Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:04:05 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [10.146.16.4] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D038759620426aanganesmitreorg_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/ShihaUo9dsqWQcREFAw6g9H5Ons Subject: [calsify] Call for WG Adoption: draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:04:11 -0000 --_000_D038759620426aanganesmitreorg_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, This is a call for comments on the adoption of draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale= -04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions WG drafts. Please comment by Septemb= er 26th. If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a separate th= read, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can track all of the co= mments in one place. Thanks, Amanda & Donald --_000_D038759620426aanganesmitreorg_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

This is a call for comments on the adoption of draft-daboo-icalen= dar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions WG drafts. Please comment = by September 26th. 

If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a separa= te thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can track all of t= he comments in one place.

Thanks,

Amanda & Donald

--_000_D038759620426aanganesmitreorg_-- From nobody Fri Sep 12 07:34:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FF01A0686 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.652] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o4hslCnb-imw for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.157.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15D1B1A007F for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (cpe-76-180-151-43.buffalo.res.rr.com [76.180.151.43]) (user=murch mech=PLAIN (0 bits)) by smtp.andrew.cmu.edu (8.14.8/8.14.8) with ESMTP id s8CEXwrX019967 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:33:58 -0400 Message-ID: <54130456.2060903@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:33:58 -0400 From: Ken Murchison Organization: Carnegie Mellon University User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: calsify@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040903080006000205040205" X-PMX-Version: 6.0.3.2322014, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.2107409, Antispam-Data: 2014.9.12.142420 X-SMTP-Spam-Clean: 33% ( SXL_IP_DYNAMIC 3, TO_IN_SUBJECT 0.5, HTML_NO_HTTP 0.1, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS 0, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_2999 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, DATE_TZ_NA 0, FROM_EDU_TLD 0, NO_URI_FOUND 0, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED 0, RDNS_POOLED 0, RDNS_RESIDENTIAL 0, RDNS_SUSP 0, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC 0, RDNS_SUSP_SPECIFIC 0, __BAT_BOUNDARY 0, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ 0, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT 0, __CT 0, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART 0, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT 0, __FORWARDED_MSG 0, __FW_1LN_BOT_MSGID 0, __HAS_FROM 0, __HAS_HTML 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __IN_REP_TO 0, __MIME_HTML 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __MOZILLA_MSGID 0, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT 0, __RDNS_POOLED_1 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE 0, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML 0, __TO_IN_SUBJECT 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __TO_NO_NAME 0, __USER_AGENT 0) X-SMTP-Spam-Score: 33% X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.74 on 128.2.157.39 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/0goJlcNWDJbtQU5mwoM9WPUeDFc Subject: Re: [calsify] Call for WG Adoption: draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:34:01 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040903080006000205040205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 09/12/2014 10:04 AM, Anganes, Amanda L wrote: > Hi, > > This is a call for comments on the adoption > of draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions > WG drafts. Please comment by September 26th. > > If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a > separate thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can > track all of the comments in one place. > As stated previously, I support the adoption of this draft. This draft has previously been discussed on this list and within CalConnect and already has two interoperable implementations. -- Kenneth Murchison Principal Systems Software Engineer Carnegie Mellon University --------------040903080006000205040205 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 09/12/2014 10:04 AM, Anganes, Amanda L wrote:
Hi,

This is a call for comments on the adoption of draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions WG drafts. Please comment by September 26th. 

If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a separate thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can track all of the comments in one place.


As stated previously, I support the adoption of this draft.  This draft has previously been discussed on this list and within CalConnect and already has two interoperable implementations.
-- 
Kenneth Murchison
Principal Systems Software Engineer
Carnegie Mellon University
--------------040903080006000205040205-- From nobody Fri Sep 12 11:13:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585301A8709 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:13:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.334 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.334 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KmUd1ufK_gVg for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oak.morsemedia.net (oak.morsemedia.net [69.50.241.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D04DB1A8744 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c75-111-84-234.erkacmtk01.ca.dh.suddenlink.net ([75.111.84.234]:49133 helo=[192.168.0.218]) by oak.morsemedia.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XSUw8-00021y-Fv; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:47:08 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_165BA9D4-8D00-4698-A1DE-E94F011B5013" From: Dave Thewlis In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:47:07 -0700 Message-Id: <8F7F3384-1C9F-449B-8F58-6F8122585FFB@calconnect.org> References: To: "Anganes, Amanda L" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-MorseMedia-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MorseMedia-MailScanner-ID: 1XSUw8-00021y-Fv X-MorseMedia-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MorseMedia-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MorseMedia-MailScanner-From: dave.thewlis@calconnect.org X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - oak.morsemedia.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - calconnect.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: oak.morsemedia.net: authenticated_id: dave@dcta.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/czOdpjSXb34-188fRgnHp4S1ej4 Cc: "calsify@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [calsify] Call for WG Adoption: draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:13:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_165BA9D4-8D00-4698-A1DE-E94F011B5013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I am in favor of adopting the RSCALE draft as a CALEXT Working Group = draft. As Ken noted, the RSCALE draft has been extensively discussed = within the CalConnect community and there are at least two = implementations. I also concur with Grisha=92s observations about the = need for this draft to avoid divergence of implementations which are = based on non-Gregorian calendars; there is definitely a need for a = standard in this area as quickly as possible. =20 CalConnect expects to do some RSCALE testing at its coming = Interoperability Test Event at the end of September in Bedford, and we = also have a test set of RECUR expansions to test RSCALE implementations = available on the CalConnect website; see the first entry under = http://www.calconnect.org/ioptesting.shtml. Dave Thewlis =20 On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Anganes, Amanda L = wrote: > Hi, >=20 > This is a call for comments on the adoption of = draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions WG = drafts. Please comment by September 26th.=20 >=20 > If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a = separate thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can track = all of the comments in one place. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Amanda & Donald >=20 > _______________________________________________ > calsify mailing list > calsify@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify -- Dave Thewlis, Executive Director CalConnect - The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium +1 707 840 9391 voice | +1 707 498 2238 mobile | +1 415 946 3454 fax http://www.calconnect.org | Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org --Apple-Mail=_165BA9D4-8D00-4698-A1DE-E94F011B5013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
I = am in favor of adopting the RSCALE draft as a CALEXT Working Group = draft.  As Ken noted, the RSCALE draft has been extensively = discussed within the CalConnect community and there are at least two = implementations.  I also concur with Grisha=92s observations about = the need for this draft to avoid divergence of implementations which are = based on non-Gregorian calendars; there is definitely a need for a = standard in this area as quickly as possible. =  

CalConnect expects to do some RSCALE = testing at its coming Interoperability Test Event at the end of = September in Bedford, and we also have a test set of RECUR expansions to = test RSCALE implementations available on the CalConnect website; see the = first entry under http://www.calconnect.= org/ioptesting.shtml.

Dave Thewlis =  




On = Sep 12, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Anganes, Amanda L <aanganes@mitre.org> = wrote:

Hi,

This is a call for comments on the adoption = of draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring = Extensions WG drafts. Please comment by September 26th. 

If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a = separate thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can track = all of the comments in one place.

Thanks,

Amanda & Donald

_______________________________________________
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CalConnect - The Calendaring and Scheduling = Consortium
+1 707 840 9391 voice | +1 707 498 2238 mobile = | +1 415 946 3454 fax

= --Apple-Mail=_165BA9D4-8D00-4698-A1DE-E94F011B5013-- From nobody Fri Sep 12 11:52:33 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6404D1A8033 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:52:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.152 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.152 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.652] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nqKaa4azpL-T for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daboo.name (daboo.name [173.13.55.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED0461A7028 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTP id D005F8C5477; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:52:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at example.com Received: from daboo.name ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (daboo.name [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fS1tvBIHbcbe; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from caldav.corp.apple.com (unknown [17.45.162.46]) by daboo.name (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F04408C5466; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:52:22 -0400 From: Cyrus Daboo To: "Anganes, Amanda L" , calsify@ietf.org Message-ID: <8D89E70997828825EC04E4B4@caldav.corp.apple.com> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0b1 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; size=662 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/8b-zoVP7Ggu7ZJ-YAgkKy1-dAMM Subject: Re: [calsify] Call for WG Adoption: draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:52:30 -0000 Hi Amanda, --On September 12, 2014 at 2:04:05 PM +0000 "Anganes, Amanda L" wrote: > This is a call for comments on the adoption of > draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions WG > drafts. Please comment by September 26th. > > If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a separate > thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can track all of > the comments in one place. As an author I feel obliged to support adoption of this draft as a WG work item :-) Whilst I have not implemented the spec as it stands, I hope to get to work on that in the next few months. -- Cyrus Daboo From nobody Tue Sep 16 07:29:52 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D91361A0350 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:29:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.03 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.03 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.652, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cUUN2lt9mcuB for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-x22b.google.com (mail-vc0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51C6C1A0704 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id im17so4978974vcb.16 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:29:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Mm5dAne46chdxz2coxL7ym9HukZDGNSm0LZV4wTuwAk=; b=IprQbOkbGyOcLBe4DQx8//5rci6KYSonNnhlqc505B6LssfwIpDINhD+GI8wQ55V1H BfsYwr3j3Ff9Jh1drsU2/UAGv4HW058cxogoJxlwo2tb1HtVYMUvjaHbYz2kQ3extiXh a0MnRatE/++GaiIytmuEbY0qbhlVZPMPjriRTY6+a0E1KeiitY+G/tXbI7KgQeSgRP+w bsXua2SrbdllVbue9eEE8PHH6r+43p1z83wThXLH9VYwVwRqQsHjfAtPsA3AxqJieB17 OGkKigi6VmXU3Gwbe8qvI1x/H8YUzkNJz69pteon7sBHiOcx5d2Tq31oHWIIoJgPSnts EXRg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=Mm5dAne46chdxz2coxL7ym9HukZDGNSm0LZV4wTuwAk=; b=RJ1H3pg8uP7zL2K+Pvk4dCAMW0d5CsrXj4JNzzgpRic15e8lBMBT5Qe3ubYKTsPuFd tz6qEBt5I3s/RN+pdznTtK8fkxNqALLqptwZaP0kx29KAvgoo7z5IuvM/DL/QVNLenLC V+5wx7HSGmdIiGpNclQ3WVHHlBFWdlUv8S5W1EaPjZ/fSqFINroHTgmmpHb6+GkooC0C hBhujIEWDF4gx2ajc85mPJgH7jnjH15BzmvNQP1zKI5urIcsNZyJwvT5XQhzD/sXdABi 0JzFjYU/Wh8Cg2yWgqm7gKnQIJsnRr2d8fmMBtAxmSurmcb2yD83OYYQWSNaUFX1Y9lN qG6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnzP2CXws+AR1hQn9IbC7PoIK2ux/M2hfX4UOlFKS+ApAT3Lx6mpOma0tnlJShpcEI8itdM X-Received: by 10.221.68.66 with SMTP id xx2mr29536654vcb.1.1410877783599; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 07:29:43 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: From: Gregory Yakushev Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:29:43 +0000 Message-ID: To: "Anganes, Amanda L" , "calsify@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113398c41d0b2405032f953e Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/N7V9KadGFp1eCuMIzaHGNCZH6DU Subject: Re: [calsify] Call for WG Adoption: draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 14:29:50 -0000 --001a113398c41d0b2405032f953e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 As an author and initiator of this effort, I support adoption of this draft. On Fri Sep 12 2014 at 4:04:15 PM Anganes, Amanda L wrote: > Hi, > > This is a call for comments on the adoption > of draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions WG > drafts. Please comment by September 26th. > > If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a separate > thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can track all of the > comments in one place. > > Thanks, > > Amanda & Donald > > _______________________________________________ > calsify mailing list > calsify@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify > --001a113398c41d0b2405032f953e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As an author and initiator of this effort, I support adoption of this draft= .

On Fri Sep 12 2014 at 4:04:15 PM Angane= s, Amanda L <aanganes@mitre.org> wrote:
Hi,

This is a call for comments on the adoption of=C2=A0draft-daboo-icalen= dar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions WG drafts. Please comment = by September 26th.=C2=A0

If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a separa= te thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can track all of t= he comments in one place.

Thanks,

Amanda & Donald

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--001a113398c41d0b2405032f953e-- From nobody Tue Sep 16 08:59:32 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DA01A03AA for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:59:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Av3BTzECwwbr for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-x22b.google.com (mail-ie0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BBEA1A0392 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id y20so66803ier.30 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:59:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=bYQlPiQkTj6Kze7NhuwCDrWBgFGuQxxKYJhpeYWRx4k=; b=pk0T3nMwWijYJ11EEHPMuXrd3SrHKMpRVO+ubYMRKj2WkIW8GAKEqtJxgz6atoPwhk nkNujI0fO/B3XzdJwCks/qvDAZQhB3aAdE3hAhbfWAdlzanQDfr3XT/ndvoW4iOje0ML qh30RodqK4zH3J1Y6uOQu+JQbCkbj98EyT/GdCZmbYvCx0o26ODpVhildMXNzgQD0R9b IMbfd0lEUAW7mu1VWOgBeTHSpJ1aRk/kayAAen74woJ9Mvd+ZkyQCDV2CrsbG0Qp9GQk Ha+jsQDIY+Yk0ObPY0Uq+A83Jld1g8r2oKjFvJ8lVMlZrl+uPrNGGxGwf6YPz+UvXdtF QxTQ== X-Received: by 10.50.83.5 with SMTP id m5mr31046935igy.15.1410883167889; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.113.124.142] (crustacean-14.dynamic.rpi.edu. [128.113.124.142]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g7sm1741562igg.1.2014.09.16.08.59.27 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Sep 2014 08:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <54185E5E.8020802@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 11:59:26 -0400 From: Mike Douglass User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:27.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/27.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: calsify@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080608090900050605020806" Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/U89R7ERM3Y00JwUVgXRKfyAojrQ Subject: Re: [calsify] Call for WG Adoption: draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:59:31 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080608090900050605020806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I support the adoption of this draft. I intend implementing support for this feature as soon as possible. On 09/12/2014 10:04 AM, Anganes, Amanda L wrote: > Hi, > > This is a call for comments on the adoption > of draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions > WG drafts. Please comment by September 26th. > > If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a > separate thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can > track all of the comments in one place. > > Thanks, > > Amanda & Donald > > > > _______________________________________________ > calsify mailing list > calsify@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify --------------080608090900050605020806 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I support the adoption of this draft.

I intend implementing support for this feature as soon as possible.

On 09/12/2014 10:04 AM, Anganes, Amanda L wrote:
Hi,

This is a call for comments on the adoption of draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions WG drafts. Please comment by September 26th. 

If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a separate thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can track all of the comments in one place.

Thanks,

Amanda & Donald



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--------------080608090900050605020806-- From marten.gajda@googlemail.com Tue Sep 16 23:15:19 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEFD1A0484 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:15:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uDrZlQ1ZpQtl for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x22f.google.com (mail-we0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57ADB1A02AC for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id w61so878194wes.34 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:15:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=9V4dHcxHK4V57jcaNqz2L/srRnfyXo7CJCi/AiJ8PiM=; b=YqWJh/fDdcjNZoJqNubhBl7o4pngLrockHhyyNuHdXxxXvNwdN5wa0hJjjY2gONP5G ppJskFnIpqyFcP4HIRl4aFeFTtHM7WdCVNh7O0eVn/WN5XHwnz8ACvgr2u44wvYITLYN YldluETCjrZriJjuyZHgi00nASBB3IRxFKOAh61PCPFn9y4nmOEs2/Trpd3OiDmvlBdH YszNA7fCc+nAtEqxfzQCWqdu/93kSgtsXuS3xQ4a74T++JzVh73vNJEADrQ4ObD6llUf bXI2YEtd+f72/CCesjT3d2A/xicLrZBpwyU/9L0T5OXAoasoe5ppQZ9IljaDjG9gpWzg eL1w== X-Received: by 10.194.158.101 with SMTP id wt5mr46970291wjb.79.1410934513966; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.dmfs.org (pD9EA6431.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [217.234.100.49]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a5sm569636wjy.20.2014.09.16.23.15.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Marten Gajda Received: from localhost.localdomain (linux-3.fritz.box [192.168.2.53]) by smtp.dmfs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DB4BD172 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:15:10 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <541926EE.4070001@dmfs.org> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:15:10 +0200 From: Marten Gajda User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: calsify@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050707090509040606070004" Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/j1QJHVCTmAFwOGsusR3Hoh3WGDQ Subject: Re: [calsify] Call for WG Adoption: draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 06:20:55 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050707090509040606070004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I support the adoption of this draft. My recurrence iterator implementation already supports parts of it. cheers Marten Am 12.09.2014 16:04, schrieb Anganes, Amanda L: > Hi, > > This is a call for comments on the adoption > of draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions > WG drafts. Please comment by September 26th. > > If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a > separate thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can > track all of the comments in one place. > > Thanks, > > Amanda & Donald > > > > _______________________________________________ > calsify mailing list > calsify@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/calsify -- Marten Gajda Schandauer Straße 34 01309 Dresden Germany tel: +49 177 4427167 email: marten@dmfs.org twitter: twitter.com/dmfs_org VAT Reg. No.: DE269072391 --------------050707090509040606070004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi,

I support the adoption of this draft. My recurrence iterator implementation already supports parts of it.

cheers

Marten

Am 12.09.2014 16:04, schrieb Anganes, Amanda L:
Hi,

This is a call for comments on the adoption of draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 (RSCALE) as Calendaring Extensions WG drafts. Please comment by September 26th. 

If you have already commented about the adoption of RSCALE in a separate thread, please resend as a reply to this thread so we can track all of the comments in one place.

Thanks,

Amanda & Donald



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--------------050707090509040606070004-- From nobody Mon Sep 22 07:06:22 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FDA1A1B72 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 07:06:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c1NoK5pVVd5Z for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 07:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emea01-am1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-am1on0705.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fe00::705]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD6F11A1BF4 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 06:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from AM1FFO11FD012.protection.gbl (10.174.64.32) by AM1FFO11HUB084.protection.gbl (10.174.65.243) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1029.15; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:49:39 +0000 Received: from wv589.dmz.local (62.255.172.70) by AM1FFO11FD012.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.174.65.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 15.0.1029.15 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:49:39 +0000 Received: from WV112.ordsvy.gov.uk ([10.160.142.127]) by wv589.dmz.local over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:49:38 +0100 Received: from WP113.ordsvy.gov.uk ([fe80::65d3:81a:2e06:40f6]) by WV112.ordsvy.gov.uk ([fe80::71da:5824:2e1f:809e%14]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:49:39 +0100 From: Peter Parslow To: "calsify@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: IETF Geo specifications Thread-Index: Ac/WamIfwpy69GoGRiGnrp8lffockw== Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:49:38 +0000 Message-ID: <0461228843A12A4DBE1DC4E9B451A9AB72880A8D@WP113.ordsvy.gov.uk> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.160.153.35] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Sep 2014 13:49:38.0463 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D476AF0:01CFD66C] X-EOPAttributedMessage: 0 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:62.255.172.70; CTRY:GB; IPV:NLI; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(428002)(189002)(199003)(92726001)(92566001)(83322001)(97756001)(44976005)(229853001)(85306004)(110136001)(15975445006)(23726002)(95666004)(77096002)(21056001)(19580405001)(90102001)(50466002)(106466001)(46406003)(105586002)(15202345003)(107886001)(2351001)(107046002)(19580395003)(86362001)(2656002)(2501002)(87936001)(4396001)(47776003)(64706001)(33656002)(31966008)(20776003)(53416004)(55846006)(74662003)(80022003)(50986999)(74482002)(81542003)(15974865002)(77982003)(74502003)(85852003)(99396002)(83072002)(81342003)(76482002)(54356999)(120916001)(46102003)(79102003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:AM1FFO11HUB084; H:wv589.dmz.local; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:m70-mp1-cvx1c.not.ntl.com; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:; X-Forefront-PRVS: 034215E98F Received-SPF: None (protection.outlook.com: ordnancesurvey.co.uk does not designate permitted sender hosts) Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is 62.255.172.70) smtp.mailfrom=Peter.Parslow@ordnancesurvey.co.uk; X-OriginatorOrg: OrdnanceSurvey.onmicrosoft.com Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/WwIjsv7E3e8iPjdx3ws8bVSAFFo Subject: [calsify] IETF Geo specifications X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:06:09 -0000 I have just taken an action from the UK government's Data Standards Panel t= o raise an issue with you. We were meeting to recommend RFC5545 and RFC6350= as the standard mechanism for UK government to provide appointment & addre= ss information to citizens. During the discussion, we noticed a discrepancy= which will leave implementers with a choice: both IETF recommendations inc= lude a way of specifying the geographic location of the item, but they do i= t differently - and differently again from other IETF documents. To put it simply, by example: * iCalendar RFC5545 (3.8.1.6) uses "GEO:37.386013;-122.082932", in degrees = north of the equator & 'east of the prime meridian'. But it also allows the= location to be specified by reference to a vCard. * vCard RFC6350 (6.5.2) recommends that its GEO tag uses RFC5870 'geo URI' = which allows other CRS but defaults to WGS84, so the same position would ap= pear as " GEO:geo: 37.386013\,-122.082932" * Both of these are different from the current IETF draft for GeoJSON (http= s://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-butler-geojson/), which insists on longi= tude then latitude (like OGC KML). iCalendar allows using vCard to provide details of the meeting location, bu= t as vCard has been updated since then, this could result in the direct & i= ndirect GEO tags having the same position presented in different ways - the= former 'in line', and the latter using RFC5870. I'm not sure that this necessarily needs tidying up urgently, but I think i= t would make sense to do so at some future revision. Yours Peter Peter Parslow Principal Geographic Information Architect Content & Data Products, Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 0AS Linked data / map: http://data.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/id/postcodeunit/SO160AS Phone: +44 23 8005 5341 Mobile: +44 7796 610020 www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk | Peter.Parslow@ordnancesurvey.co.uk Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this emai= l. This email is only intended for the person to whom it is addressed and may = contain confidential information. If you have received this email in error,= please notify the sender and delete this email which must not be copied, d= istributed or disclosed to any other person. Unless stated otherwise, the contents of this email are personal to the wri= ter and do not represent the official view of Ordnance Survey. Nor can any = contract be formed on Ordnance Survey's behalf via email. We reserve the ri= ght to monitor emails and attachments without prior notice. 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Ordnance Survey Adanac Drive Southampton SO16 0AS Tel: 03456 050505 http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk From nobody Fri Sep 26 11:58:45 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: calsify@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665271A6FAB for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:58:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bTgo7-9efcyf for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe16:19:96:114:154:165]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D0C1F1A6FBF for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.242]) by resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id vuxM1o00C5E3ZMc01uyc9U; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 18:58:36 +0000 Received: from MacPro12.local ([68.46.10.248]) by resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id vuyb1o00K5M5p6C01uyb57; Fri, 26 Sep 2014 18:58:36 +0000 Message-ID: <5425B75A.50407@CoxSoftwareArchitects.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 14:58:34 -0400 From: William Cox User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: calsify@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1411757916; bh=V16ZB4SUwcaL2LD04t1fLCyThltNR+wPDrXqNfTxQj4=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=FgKY4fie9QA7XQ5ePb4sitSrwm3ycGRoeVkGeL/0t+BRgCR43q6dLkVajtoVuW19K 2b0j4t72AnVt8S2txM7MegJTTwBXD3kpWRPZvS2veyzKBBZVu8PIr5wvopGxv8bS0s djU8goPxUZrkPE7fVnK04lfUqOoqBrUDVmIK6RD/Wb8DTbwIDLgH0zQnJp0FlZBgKi szc3to31D2BxZJhJlqB2BhbJ4Rt4JU+J7DGVGoFYCDkQeAYwWB73qsuuVL4Al6AJCT k3R0frHkkvATrg6u5eJRikv/h20GkIKgPw3Gv1FQQEPJmFOZdsBfgoTW4XipUKHbdx 1V/TU23TUG0IA== Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/calsify/weniB23jXyMs8tuTaKzdwWMxb7s Subject: Re: [calsify] Call for WG Adoption: draft-daboo-icalendar-rscale-04 X-BeenThere: calsify@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2014 18:58:41 -0000 I support adoption of RSCALE as a Calendaring Extensions WG draft. bill cox