From lnovikov@mitre.org Thu Jul 14 22:13:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B2A21F86BA for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:13:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5s8R0pv9VAyY for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1613E21F865D for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 22:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FC8621B1158 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub2.MITRE.ORG (imchub2.mitre.org [129.83.29.74]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACE121B0CC8 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub2.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.74]) with mapi; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:17:02 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: "CICM Discussion List (cicm@ietf.org)" Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:16:42 -0400 Thread-Topic: Proposed WG Charter Thread-Index: AcxCfBWs80MJFD3zR36mcu2vBnkWiw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [cicm] Proposed WG Charter X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:13:10 -0000 Since the WG BOF at IETF 81 is just around the corner (currently scheduled = for: Wed, 2011-07-27 15:10-16:10), let's review the text of the proposed ch= arter (included below) to make sure we're all on the same page. Now is the time to voice your suggestions, revisions, comments about the ch= arter. Regards, Lev From: http://code.google.com/p/ietf-cicm/wiki/WGCharter The Common Interface to Cryptographic Modules (CICM) defines an abstract API for the security services provided by cryptographic modules=20 developed by multiple vendors. The API is intended to support high=20 assurance cryptography, security domain separation, and enhanced module, key, and channel management capabilities that are vendor neutral. The purpose of the CICM Working Group is to shepherd the CICM=20 specification documents to publication and provide guidance for any new=20 submissions related to high assurance cryptos. Specifically, the Working Group will: Complete existing requests: * replace algorithm strings with OIDs * use ABNF notation for unique identifiers syntax * add module events for symmetric and asymmetric key filled * add unprotected-side APIs for: * moving data into / out of the module * performing administrative functions (e.g., supply IV,=20 header-bypass data) Shepard the following documents to publication: * draft-lanz-cicm * draft-lanz-cicm-lm * draft-lanz-cicm-mm * draft-lanz-cicm-km * draft-lanz-cicm-cm Goals and Milestones TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm-lm to WG TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm to WG TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm-mm to WG TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm-km to WG TBD Submit draft-lanz-cicm to the IESG as Proposed Standard From kevin.w.wall@gmail.com Fri Jul 15 05:14:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B965621F8672 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:14:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id czuRYR-gCrY0 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com (mail-wy0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D4621F8513 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so99027wyj.31 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ek4N0CYWbf8CCDNxUoLNzMIFsP6aIjEs+m3HrAmpz7c=; b=jqG+iWuE1n1c7TQcCh3/Rw5Bi3cqa9Z6yYKw3um1rFlmKc/eqBa7RFVSLzgrx8OYky 3ynTnFA17fBHCIZXfel10E0eQYZWTZynR8oKuXK1EjKuOPBR61o+kcWZm9VUwfUOCUR4 cr/ZKGD43sOzu5cCCU9fNQQALP8NhA/vRa85U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.183.133 with SMTP id cg5mr3048242wbb.49.1310732064143; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.68.142 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 05:14:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:14:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Kevin W. Wall" To: CICM Discussion List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [cicm] Proposed WG Charter X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:14:25 -0000 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Novikov, Lev wrote: ...[snip]... > > * add module events for symmetric and asymmetric key filled ^^^^^ Is that supposed to be 'key field' ??? Because I don't get "key filled". -kevin --=20 Blog: http://off-the-wall-security.blogspot.com/ "The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals. We *cause* accidents." =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-- Nathaniel Borenstein From lnovikov@mitre.org Fri Jul 15 10:28:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2B2321F8B95 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:28:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LJiX2D1UOV-C for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2519321F8B94 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 358F621B13E2 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub1.MITRE.ORG (imchub1.mitre.org [129.83.29.73]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3108F21B13DF for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:52:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub1.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.73]) with mapi; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:52:20 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: CICM Discussion List Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:51:30 -0400 Thread-Topic: Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) Thread-Index: AcxC9ky6uVGcfStrSrmovTEkROW81g== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [cicm] Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:28:18 -0000 On 2011-07-15 08:14, Kevin Wall wrote: >...[snip]... >> >> * add module events for symmetric and asymmetric key filled > > ^^^^^ > >Is that supposed to be 'key field' ??? Because I don't get >"key filled". From: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lanz-cicm-lm-00 $ key fill device Devices that read-in, transfer, and store key material. $ key fill interface Set of protocols, electrical connections, and physical characteristics that comprise the connecting link between a key fill device and a cryptographic module. CICM enables a key fill interface to be configured and actions to be initiated on a key fill device via the key fill interface. See Also: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lanz-cicm-km-00 (search for "key fill") Lev From kevin.w.wall@gmail.com Fri Jul 15 10:41:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E5C21F8BCC for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:41:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OBGW46-kw7dy for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com (mail-wy0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F84021F8B94 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wyj26 with SMTP id 26so66953wyj.31 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:41:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CCL/284s1e15vvw35zqDVvBhZaoD0h+hedktg2ETwkQ=; b=Ny2dRKsxgEXWulSn/1ICsU61vAy0RA73gcvHo2I0zBdXs8GZ1biYlpuiTSTFSBzBgL z5ppuv/SAzmHwY9H4hcImqtaYdrJbGzWi0/Zmdyd9+5i7H6Si3KQ6pa3KvsfYrEhSR1b d52GrPdzrblcx2JeakbEu/Bw0NxLjJDb3EO20= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.183.133 with SMTP id cg5mr3339265wbb.49.1310751701502; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.68.142 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:41:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:41:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Kevin W. Wall" To: CICM Discussion List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [cicm] Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:41:43 -0000 Lev, You mean like an HSM, as an example of a key filled device? Seems like it should say something like "Key filled device" or "key filled interface" or "key filled action" or "key filled protocol" or _something_ then. The way it's worded is a bit odd as far as the English grammar goes. To me, that bullet reads as though some word is missing at the end. Even with your explanation (which now makes it makes it sense) it still reads very awkward to me. -kevin On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Novikov, Lev wrote: > On 2011-07-15 08:14, Kevin Wall wrote: >>...[snip]... >>> >>> =A0* add module events for symmetric and asymmetric key filled >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ^^^^^ >> >>Is that supposed to be 'key field' ??? Because I don't get >>"key filled". > > From: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lanz-cicm-lm-00 > > =A0 $ key fill device > > =A0 =A0 =A0Devices that read-in, transfer, and store key material. > > =A0 $ key fill interface > > =A0 =A0 =A0Set of protocols, electrical connections, and physical > =A0 =A0 =A0characteristics that comprise the connecting link between a ke= y > =A0 =A0 =A0fill device and a cryptographic module. =A0CICM enables a key = fill > =A0 =A0 =A0interface to be configured and actions to be initiated on a ke= y > =A0 =A0 =A0fill device via the key fill interface. > > See Also: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lanz-cicm-km-00 (search for "key fill") > > Lev > _______________________________________________ > cicm mailing list > cicm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cicm > --=20 Blog: http://off-the-wall-security.blogspot.com/ "The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals. We *cause* accidents." =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0-- Nathaniel Borenstein From prvs=1701294f7=Hema.Krishnamurthy@itt.com Fri Jul 15 10:44:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C67F21F8BC8 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:44:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vENICyKhG2oQ for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cip-fwa-c1.itt.com (cip-fwa-c1.itt.com [151.190.252.21]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C0921F8B94 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 10:44:23 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQAAIl7IE4KHOwD/2dsb2JhbABUmCmQN8sshVtfBIclkEuLZQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,209,1309737600"; d="scan'208";a="114198967" Received: from usfwa1excas3.itt.net ([10.28.236.3]) by cip-fwa-c1.itt.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 15 Jul 2011 17:44:23 +0000 Received: from USFWA1EXCAS5.itt.net (10.28.236.33) by USFWA1EXCAS3.itt.net (10.28.236.3) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.255.0; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:44:22 -0400 Received: from CSFWCAS1.cs.de.ittind.com (10.32.129.151) by USFWA1EXCAS5.itt.net (10.28.236.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:44:22 -0400 Received: from CSFWMAIL1.cs.de.ittind.com ([10.32.129.153]) by CSFWCAS1.cs.de.ittind.com ([10.32.129.151]) with mapi; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:44:22 -0400 From: "Krishnamurthy, Hema - ES" To: CICM Discussion List Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 13:44:20 -0400 Thread-Topic: [cicm] Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) Thread-Index: AcxDFnlslg89u/BhTjG5oDbDS24wvAAAEdxA Message-ID: <86150541B533894DAD5CB2DB3F4788520E2AC58080@CSFWMAIL1.cs.de.ittind.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [cicm] Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:44:24 -0000 Maybe just say " add module events for symmetric and asymmetric key fill" 'Key Fill' is a common terminology. -----Original Message----- From: cicm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:cicm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kev= in W. Wall Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:42 AM To: CICM Discussion List Subject: Re: [cicm] Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) Lev, You mean like an HSM, as an example of a key filled device? Seems like it should say something like "Key filled device" or "key filled interface" or "key filled action" or "key filled protocol" or _something_ then. The way it's worded is a bit odd as far as the English grammar goes. To me, that bullet reads as though some word is missing at the end. Even with your explanation (which now makes it makes it sense) it still reads very awkward to me. -kevin On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Novikov, Lev wrote: > On 2011-07-15 08:14, Kevin Wall wrote: >>...[snip]... >>> >>> * add module events for symmetric and asymmetric key filled >> >> ^^^^^ >> >>Is that supposed to be 'key field' ??? Because I don't get >>"key filled". > > From: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lanz-cicm-lm-00 > > $ key fill device > > Devices that read-in, transfer, and store key material. > > $ key fill interface > > Set of protocols, electrical connections, and physical > characteristics that comprise the connecting link between a key > fill device and a cryptographic module. CICM enables a key fill > interface to be configured and actions to be initiated on a key > fill device via the key fill interface. > > See Also: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lanz-cicm-km-00 (search for "key fill") > > Lev > _______________________________________________ > cicm mailing list > cicm@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cicm > -- Blog: http://off-the-wall-security.blogspot.com/ "The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree, is by accident. That's where we come in; we're computer professionals. We *cause* accidents." -- Nathaniel Borenstein _______________________________________________ cicm mailing list cicm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cicm This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are in= tended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addr= essed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely = those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of ITT Corporati= on. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the pres= ence of viruses. ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any viru= s transmitted by this e-mail. From lnovikov@mitre.org Fri Jul 15 12:19:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA04521F8C30 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:19:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GT8HouVet-Vn for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1AD421F8C37 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D87A21B14B7 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub1.MITRE.ORG (imchub1.mitre.org [129.83.29.73]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C3C21B01EB for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub1.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.73]) with mapi; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:19:51 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: CICM Discussion List Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:18:49 -0400 Thread-Topic: [cicm] Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) Thread-Index: AcxDFnlslg89u/BhTjG5oDbDS24wvAAAEdxAAAJ8k6A= Message-ID: References: <86150541B533894DAD5CB2DB3F4788520E2AC58080@CSFWMAIL1.cs.de.ittind.com> In-Reply-To: <86150541B533894DAD5CB2DB3F4788520E2AC58080@CSFWMAIL1.cs.de.ittind.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [cicm] Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:19:56 -0000 On 2011-07-14 19:17, Lev Novikov wrote: > [...] > * add module events for symmetric and asymmetric key filled > [...] On 2011-07-15 10:42, Kevin Wall wrote: > You mean like an HSM, as an example of a key filled device? Not quite; I'm referring to a device which fills (loads) a module=20 with keys. E.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fill_device > Seems like it should say something like "Key filled device" or > "key filled interface" or "key filled action" or "key filled protocol" > or _something_ then. The way it's worded is a bit odd as far as the > English grammar goes. > > To me, that bullet reads as though some word is missing at the > end. Even with your explanation (which now makes it makes it sense) > it still reads very awkward to me. Funny, I had a similar reaction when I was introduced to the term=20 "key fill"-- I kept wanting to say "key filling" (as a gerund), but I=20 kept getting corrected "yes, it does key fill" (verb acting as a noun=20 without being a gerund). It would almost be better, grammatically, if it was hyphenated "key-fill" so that it looked more like a noun than a=20 verb. Alas, it is not the common usage. So it's not clear how you=20 conjugate the past tense of a verb that doesn't normally get=20 conjugated. On 2011-07-15 13:44, Hema Krishnamurthy wrote: > Maybe just say "add module events for symmetric and asymmetric=20 > key fill"=20 > 'Key Fill' is a common terminology. Good suggestion. It keeps the bizarre conjugation consistent. Lev From kevin.w.wall@gmail.com Fri Jul 15 12:32:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE6421F8C21 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:32:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id spdibh+f8YwS for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f44.google.com (mail-ww0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 707F921F8C02 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wwe5 with SMTP id 5so1078300wwe.13 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:32:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nXwT3IQMgICrLU4kOKK4VFgD95K1E/mFLtnEwB7D4S4=; b=b2PTzw1pcbNpxI6UQAfnNCyPsH1vEltNav9BiJkOXktPR3YL57H6cNA8iXpMwVjV// b3qBqRd0P15MlnDm/t3RAtW6CAp1MDwPpaLeVbVrh5y05Iuuhl+PuSFAKesx7iHkWCtA SpwJVbpmboN//mAoUYstYgQJXLl1oGf4m/oQo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.135.9 with SMTP id l9mr3370126wbt.34.1310758341034; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.68.142 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:32:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <86150541B533894DAD5CB2DB3F4788520E2AC58080@CSFWMAIL1.cs.de.ittind.com> References: <86150541B533894DAD5CB2DB3F4788520E2AC58080@CSFWMAIL1.cs.de.ittind.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:32:20 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Kevin W. Wall" To: CICM Discussion List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [cicm] Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:32:24 -0000 That sounds better to me. Let's go with that. On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Krishnamurthy, Hema - ES wrote: > Maybe just say " add module events for symmetric and asymmetric key fill" > > 'Key Fill' is a common terminology. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: cicm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:cicm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of K= evin W. Wall > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 10:42 AM > To: CICM Discussion List > Subject: Re: [cicm] Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) > > Lev, > > You mean like an HSM, as an example of a key filled device? > > Seems like it should say something like "Key filled device" or > "key filled interface" or "key filled action" or "key filled protocol" or > _something_ then. The way it's worded is a bit odd as far as the > English grammar goes. > > To me, that bullet reads as though some word is missing at the > end. Even with your explanation (which now makes it makes it sense) > it still reads very awkward to me. > > -kevin > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Novikov, Lev wrote: >> On 2011-07-15 08:14, Kevin Wall wrote: >>>...[snip]... >>>> >>>> =A0* add module events for symmetric and asymmetric key filled >>> >>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ^^^^^ >>> >>>Is that supposed to be 'key field' ??? Because I don't get >>>"key filled". >> >> From: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lanz-cicm-lm-00 >> >> =A0 $ key fill device >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0Devices that read-in, transfer, and store key material. >> >> =A0 $ key fill interface >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0Set of protocols, electrical connections, and physical >> =A0 =A0 =A0characteristics that comprise the connecting link between a k= ey >> =A0 =A0 =A0fill device and a cryptographic module. =A0CICM enables a key= fill >> =A0 =A0 =A0interface to be configured and actions to be initiated on a k= ey >> =A0 =A0 =A0fill device via the key fill interface. >> >> See Also: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lanz-cicm-km-00 (search for "key fill") >> >> Lev >> _______________________________________________ >> cicm mailing list >> cicm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cicm >> > > > > -- > Blog: http://off-the-wall-security.blogspot.com/ > "The most likely way for the world to be destroyed, most experts agree, > is by accident. 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Because I don't get >> "key filled". > > From: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lanz-cicm-lm-00 > > $ key fill device > > Devices that read-in, transfer, and store key material. > > $ key fill interface > > Set of protocols, electrical connections, and physical > characteristics that comprise the connecting link between a key > fill device and a cryptographic module. CICM enables a key fill > interface to be configured and actions to be initiated on a key > fill device via the key fill interface. > > See Also: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lanz-cicm-km-00 (search for "key fill") You could point to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4949: $ fill device (N) /COMSEC/ A device used to transfer or store keying material in electronic form or to insert keying material into cryptographic equipment. spt From lnovikov@mitre.org Mon Jul 18 10:10:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BC521F8BBF for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:10:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zJ9u8JBhxjKu for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D3A21F8B8C for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B5A221B1C5A for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub1.MITRE.ORG (imchub1.mitre.org [129.83.29.73]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370BE21B1C4D for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub1.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.73]) with mapi; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:09:51 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: "CICM Discussion List (cicm@ietf.org)" Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:08:42 -0400 Thread-Topic: How an IETF WG Works Thread-Index: AcxFbVgmKVzMbSCyQUKESQvJxh/8Iw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [cicm] How an IETF WG Works X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:10:21 -0000 For folks who are unfamiliar with how Working Groups (WGs) at the IETF=20 operate, I highly recommend RFC 2418, "IETF Working Group Guidelines and Procedures" An understanding of the roles and process will help us have reasonable=20 discussions during the next few weeks. Lev From lnovikov@mitre.org Thu Jul 21 08:55:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01C3C21F8757 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:55:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z7P1d9a8EQsz for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2272921F8760 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F35C21B0C78 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub2.MITRE.ORG (imchub2.mitre.org [129.83.29.74]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ACC021B0A88 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:55:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub2.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.74]) with mapi; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:55:29 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: CICM Discussion List Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:54:37 -0400 Thread-Topic: [cicm] Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) Thread-Index: AcxDOjZsspEcT8f1SDK4/B5eSTkHvgEhBR2w Message-ID: References: <4E20B7CD.1040604@ieca.com> In-Reply-To: <4E20B7CD.1040604@ieca.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [cicm] Key Fill (was: Proposed WG Charter) X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:55:36 -0000 Sean, On 2011-07-15 17:58, Sean Turner wrote: > You could point to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc4949: > > $ fill device > (N) /COMSEC/ A device used to transfer or store keying material in > electronic form or to insert keying material into cryptographic > equipment. Good idea. There are probably several places where we can reference RFC 494= 9 better. Lev From lnovikov@mitre.org Thu Jul 21 09:03:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DCF21F8AEC for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:03:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wUAScCc6Rz4H for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EFE21F874A for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 5457E21B15F5 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub2.MITRE.ORG (imchub2.mitre.org [129.83.29.74]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CCD21B15C9 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub2.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.74]) with mapi; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:03:02 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: "CICM Discussion List (cicm@ietf.org)" Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:01:55 -0400 Thread-Topic: Why do we need a high assurance API? Thread-Index: AcxHv4OJVsr//gneRRKX8oANPbLF0g== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [cicm] Why do we need a high assurance API? X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:03:03 -0000 For the benefit of IETF folks who are unfamiliar with this area who will be reading this list during and after the BOF: Why do we need a high assurance crypto API? Please write a brief response that relates to your (or your=20 organization's) experience. Thank you, Lev From othomas@arkhamtechnology.com Thu Jul 21 15:04:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC7F21F8A1A for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:04:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70Ct5v7FtvUI for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 073B421F8764 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 15:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29848 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jul 2011 22:04:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host236.hostmonster.com) (74.220.215.236) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2011 22:04:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=arkhamtechnology.com; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Organization:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-Identified-User; b=REBs5X/IdZOSt6+qScGKEzGt0/1gEip6oiWT0jI+wPmKLkjLbgnFftVgMl5z1qrB/1OluIl19fJq7VR/cY/2RUQl4P8Xl1kbHTL3ffIMoAmSIEjHZfdhgU+g6Wqbdc5R; Received: from [12.132.228.130] (helo=WIN91J4A5AH5KS) by host236.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qk1MO-0002D6-8o for cicm@ietf.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:04:48 -0600 From: "Otaway Thomas" To: "'CICM Discussion List'" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:04:47 -0400 Organization: Arkham Technology Message-ID: <01b301cc47f2$34f6d0b0$9ee47210$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcxHv4MOnqbUp0XFQk+e3rJi5RL8IwAMQGGg Content-Language: en-us X-Identified-User: {2111:host236.hostmonster.com:arkhamte:arkhamtechnology.com} {sentby:smtp auth 12.132.228.130 authed with othomas+arkhamtechnology.com} Subject: Re: [cicm] Why do we need a high assurance API? X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: othomas@arkhamtechnology.com, CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:04:49 -0000 CICM Distro List, One application in which this API is needed in the development of high assurance software definable radios. In JTRS this is handled by the "closed" JTRS Red Security Services (RSS) API which is under need-to-know distribution control of the U.S. DoD. An equivalent open standard would provide reduced development costs through commercial competition and a wider global market. The API would also be helpful in the wider range of communications systems, such as terminals and crypto devices (ECUs), that are becoming increasingly "software definable." Thanks, Otaway Otaway Thomas, CISSP, ISSEP, IAM Chief Engineer Arkham Technology Ltd. 20 Pacifica, Suite 670 Irvine, CA 92618 949-228-6677 -----Original Message----- From: Novikov, Lev [mailto:lnovikov@mitre.org] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:02 PM To: CICM Discussion List (cicm@ietf.org) Subject: [cicm] Why do we need a high assurance API? For the benefit of IETF folks who are unfamiliar with this area who will be reading this list during and after the BOF: Why do we need a high assurance crypto API? Please write a brief response that relates to your (or your organization's) experience. 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To: CICM Discussion List Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:40:35 -0400 Thread-Topic: Why do we need a high assurance API? Thread-Index: AcxHv4OJVsr//gneRRKX8oANPbLF0gAb/7DiABFAOrA= Message-ID: References: <7EDDD87A9A1D7F4DB6F78BC55AA4955002085E1A@0461-its-exmb09.us.saic.com> In-Reply-To: <7EDDD87A9A1D7F4DB6F78BC55AA4955002085E1A@0461-its-exmb09.us.saic.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_E48B962F2B71EC4C97EF42A839D0F2DE05F00FA7CDIMCMBX1MITREO_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [cicm] Why do we need a high assurance API? 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smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC0321F86B6 for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 7263921B111F for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub2.MITRE.ORG (imchub2.mitre.org [129.83.29.74]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E24521B111A for ; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub2.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.74]) with mapi; Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:29:08 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: "CICM Discussion List (cicm@ietf.org)" Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:28:26 -0400 Thread-Topic: Bumping all CICM I-Ds Thread-Index: AcxKWWNjsds8yPu5Qxqk6z9a3QbPZw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [cicm] Bumping all CICM I-Ds X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 23:29:09 -0000 Some of you may have noticed that the Internet-Drafts for CICM have expired= . Today I found out that the best thing to do is to bump them even without = making changes so that people can access them during the IETF meeting. So that's what I'm going to do tomorrow morning when the upload tool is bac= k on. Sorry for the temporary outage. Lev From mridge@mitre.org Mon Jul 25 04:54:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52D421F8BE7 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 04:54:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QVIewzfYnkBm for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 04:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE7821F8C69 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 04:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id F0B5C21B135F; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub2.MITRE.ORG (imchub2.mitre.org [129.83.29.74]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E435421B135E; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX2.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.205]) by imchub2.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.74]) with mapi; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:09:24 -0400 From: "Ridge, Mike" To: "'cicm@ietf.org'" Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:09:23 -0400 Thread-Topic: Support for a Common Interface for Cryptographic Modules Thread-Index: AcxKu04oU6wdK/O1QHmkiCh7hzg/XQ== Message-ID: <292B774B15DB61439D9CB2131BBFE227085B9AA92A@IMCMBX2.MITRE.ORG> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01CC4A99.C84F8C90" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "fdavis@nsa.gov" Subject: [cicm] Support for a Common Interface for Cryptographic Modules X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 11:54:56 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CC4A99.C84F8C90 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000D_01CC4A99.C84F8C90" ------=_NextPart_001_000D_01CC4A99.C84F8C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To the CICM Forum, I wanted to express my support for approval of the CICM standard. A common standard for Crypto interfaces is a foundation for improvements in interoperability and reductions in cost of cryptographic solutions. What is helpful to me is a solution approvable for cryptographic interfaces to include High Assurance cryptographic solutions. The fact that the interface is acceptable for High Assurance solutions and implementable in products with lower robustness is credit to the Engineers involved and the group at large. In the mid 1990's the automotive world standardized on "On Board Diagnostics II" (OBD II) interfaces for reading fault indicators from automobiles. This then allowed standardized diagnostics between manufacturers, significantly reducing costs at repair shops and improving equipment available. Today every automobile sold in the world has an OBD-II interface - from the $4000 Tata Nano to the $400,000 Rolls Royce Phantom (not that I take my Rolls just anywhere..). My point being that CICM could likely be applied across the spectrum of crypto solutions just like OBD II has become the standard for automobiles. Mike Ridge ------=_NextPart_001_000D_01CC4A99.C84F8C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To the = CICM Forum,

 

  I wanted to express my support for approval of = the CICM standard. A common standard for Crypto interfaces is a = foundation for improvements in interoperability and reductions in cost = of cryptographic solutions. What is helpful to me is a solution = approvable for cryptographic interfaces to include High Assurance = cryptographic solutions. The fact that the interface is acceptable for = High Assurance solutions and implementable in products with lower = robustness is credit to the Engineers involved and the group at = large.

 

  In the mid 1990’s the automotive world = standardized on “On Board Diagnostics II” (OBD II) = interfaces for reading fault indicators from automobiles. This then = allowed standardized diagnostics between manufacturers, significantly = reducing costs at repair shops and improving equipment available. Today = every automobile sold in the world has an OBD-II interface – from = the $4000 Tata Nano to the $400,000 Rolls Royce Phantom (not that I take = my Rolls just anywhere….). My point being that CICM could likely = be applied across the spectrum of crypto solutions just like OBD II has = become the standard for automobiles.

 

Mike = Ridge

 

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pee2G6x7wN/n//PX8SqXL7FJU+hf0QoDAAAAAAAA ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CC4A99.C84F8C90-- From lnovikov@mitre.org Mon Jul 25 09:11:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829F111E810C for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:11:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KBYRg6JtEosw for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 09:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0507721F8C84 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 07:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id A9D2221B0474 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub2.MITRE.ORG (imchub2.mitre.org [129.83.29.74]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A555621B0319 for ; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub2.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.74]) with mapi; Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:41:50 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: CICM Discussion List Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:40:28 -0400 Thread-Topic: Bumping all CICM I-Ds Thread-Index: AcxKWWNjsds8yPu5Qxqk6z9a3QbPZwAfvgSQ Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [cicm] Bumping all CICM I-Ds X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:11:46 -0000 On 2011-07-24 19:28, Lev Novikov wrote: > [...] > So that's what I'm going to do tomorrow morning when the upload tool=20 > is back on. FYI: All drafts have been bumped. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/search/?name=3Ddraft-lanz-cicm&rfcs=3Don&a= ctiveDrafts=3Don&search_submit=3D Lev From Frank.Costantini@L-3Com.com Tue Jul 26 06:23:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A8F21F8C2E for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 06:23:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WQ09etdsZk9h for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 06:23:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2out.l-3com.com (smtp2out.l-3com.com [166.20.51.112]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B247C21F8C16 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 06:23:23 -0700 (PDT) X-filenames: smime.p7s X-filesizes: 6522 X-filetypes: unknown X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,599,1304294400"; d="p7s'?scan'208,217";a="296534003" From: Frank.Costantini@L-3Com.com Received: from host-166-20-16-165.l-3com.com (HELO csemail02.cse.l-3com.com) ([166.20.16.165]) by smtp2out.l-3com.com with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2011 13:23:22 +0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:23:22 -0400 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_08A2_01CC4B75.A9EE3800" Message-ID: <9E44F211351FCC4190037CD43860C3F001407FB0@csemail02.cse.l-3com.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: CICM standard support Thread-Index: AcxLlzC4+OvPmQgTRrOC9TGmz8+I1w== To: Cc: "Smith, Walter M @ CSG - CSE" Subject: [cicm] CICM standard support X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:23:24 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_08A2_01CC4B75.A9EE3800 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_08A3_01CC4B75.A9EE3800" ------=_NextPart_001_08A3_01CC4B75.A9EE3800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To the CICM Forum, L-3 Communications Systems East would like to express support for approval of the CICM standard by the IETF. Our company produces a variety of cryptographic products for use in tactical Airborne, Man-Portable, Ground, Shipboard and Satellite platforms and also for strategic applications. The common command set and structure described the CICM standard will allow greater reuse of cryptographic products and designs from various suppliers across divergent platforms and applications while reducing overall development, integration and test cost for the cryptographic system and for the overall platform. Thank you for your consideration. Frank Costantini Chief Engineer, Information Assurance L-3 Communication Systems-East 1 Federal Street, AE-3NE, Camden, NJ 08103 ------=_NextPart_001_08A3_01CC4B75.A9EE3800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To the = CICM Forum,

 

L-3 Communications Systems East would like to express = support for approval of the CICM standard by the IETF.  Our company = produces a variety of cryptographic products for use in tactical = Airborne, Man-Portable, Ground, Shipboard and Satellite platforms and = also for strategic applications.  The common command set and = structure described the CICM standard will allow greater reuse of = cryptographic products and designs from various suppliers across = divergent platforms and applications while reducing overall development, = integration and test cost for the cryptographic system and for the = overall platform.

 

Thank you = for your consideration.

 

Frank = Costantini

Ch= ief Engineer, Information Assurance

L-= 3 Communication Systems-East
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-0700 (PDT) Received: from ([131.9.32.30]) by 52vejx-mr-001.us.af.mil with ESMTP with TLS id FZY0FN1.27612011; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:16:51 -0500 Received: from 52VEJX-MV09-02.area52.afnoapps.usaf.mil ([131.9.33.26]) by 52vejx-ht-003.area52.afnoapps.usaf.mil ([131.9.32.30]) with mapi; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:16:49 -0500 From: "PUTNEY, MICHAEL A CTR USAF AFMC ESC/HNCGE" To: "cicm@ietf.org" Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:16:45 -0500 Thread-Topic: Benefits of CICM to the Air Force Thread-Index: AcxLpwfzEXE3kLRNTzOiYkkKRa8CaA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: tSk= 38o= BnqR C34U FPbE FcYm HSQm H/is IHOf I7eb Jdb9 JhzZ KWSq Kk6x Ktxb LbAR; 1; YwBpAGMAbQBAAGkAZQB0AGYALgBvAHIAZwA=; Sosha1_v1; 7; {94AC9D0B-6BDC-451F-B906-0C52C3E86252}; bQBpAGMAaABhAGUAbAAuAHAAdQB0AG4AZQB5AC4AMQAuAGMAdAByAEAAdQBzAC4AYQBmAC4AbQBpAGwA; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:16:45 GMT; QgBlAG4AZQBmAGkAdABzACAAbwBmACAAQwBJAEMATQAgAHQAbwAgAHQAaABlACAAQQBpAHIAIABGAG8AcgBjAGUA x-cr-puzzleid: {94AC9D0B-6BDC-451F-B906-0C52C3E86252} acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:27:03 -0700 Subject: [cicm] Benefits of CICM to the Air Force X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:24:56 -0000 The AF Cryptographic Modernization Program office believes the utility of C= ICM lies in the ability to decouple cryptographic modules from the larger s= ystem. This provides for an ability of cryptographic services to be update= d on a more frequent basis than the typical long lifespan of various Air Fo= rce systems. In addition in provides flexibility to define a boundary in w= hich the larger system integrator is free to choose from various cryptograp= hic module vendors based on technical and security requirements, but still = retain an ability to upgrade if a different vendor provides a better techno= logy in the future. This is currently not the case typically, because once= you select a module vendor you are utilizing that vendors proprietary API = and potentially requires the module vendor to assist in writing higher leve= l system software that utilizes the proprietary API. In summary this stand= ardization effort is critical to achieving a modular, open systems approach= in the arena of embedded cryptographic systems. Michael Putney Lead Information Systems Engineer (MITRE)=20 Air Force Cryptographic Modernization Program Office - ESC/HNCGE From lnovikov@mitre.org Tue Jul 26 08:48:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB3E11E810B for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:48:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7euxk6HrLPTI for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63E411E80D8 for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D60921B157A; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub1.MITRE.ORG (imchub1.mitre.org [129.83.29.73]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C7121B1568; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub1.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.73]) with mapi; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:48:38 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: "CICM Discussion List (cicm@ietf.org)" Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:47:45 -0400 Thread-Topic: CICM BOF Jabber Info Thread-Index: AcxLpDLW/5KH3ufMT52XZwO62+U6mgABhy0A Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [cicm] CICM BOF Jabber Info X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:48:42 -0000 The CICM BOF is still scheduled for Tomorrow (Wed, 2011-07-27) from=20 15:10 - 16:10. The jabber room is: cicm@jabber.ietf.org FYI:=20 Participation in the IETF is subject to the NOTE WELL found at: http://www.ietf.org/about/note-well.html =20 Everything you type is logged! http://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/cicm@jabber.ietf.org/ How to Participate (READ INSTRUCTIONS FIRST) 1. Open the audio stream in an audio player (e.g., Windows Media Player) http://ietf81streaming.dnsalias.net/ietf/ietf806.m3u (This is a room feed, so you can listen to whoever is speaking in that=20 room right now.) 2. You need a public jabber handle. You can get one: a. Visit https://register.jabber.org/ b. Provide a username and password. c. Click "Register" (You DO NOT need to download one of their clients) =20 3. You need a jabber client. You can use a free online one: a. Visit http://jwchat.org/ b. Change "Server" to "jabber.org" c. Provide your username and password (from 2b above). (You DO NOT need to "Register New Account") d. Click "Login" (a new window will pop-up) 4. You need to connect to . For jwchat: a. Click the group icon (Join Groupchat) in the=20 lower left corner of the popup. b. Change "Room" to "cicm", "Server" to "jabber.ietf.org"=20 (leave "Password" blank) d. Click "Join" You can join the room at any time (even now!). Please try it out and let me= =20 know if you have any issues connecting. Thanks, Lev From James.L.Howard@L-3Com.com Tue Jul 26 10:50:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007B821F893C for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:50:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.578 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.578 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LOCALPART_IN_SUBJECT=2.02, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MUgvo7bQzc5Y for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp2out.l-3com.com (smtp2out.l-3com.com [166.20.51.112]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCC321F893E for ; Tue, 26 Jul 2011 10:50:02 -0700 (PDT) X-filenames: X-filesizes: None X-filetypes: X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,600,1304294400"; d="scan'208,217";a="296644229" From: James.L.Howard@L-3Com.com Received: from host-166-20-16-165.l-3com.com (HELO csemail02.cse.l-3com.com) ([166.20.16.165]) by smtp2out.l-3com.com with ESMTP; 26 Jul 2011 17:50:01 +0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CC4BBC.6F3F87E8" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:49:57 -0400 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: CICM Thread-Index: AcxLvG7P9AWduOzWRy+vZoJmsczuWg== To: Subject: [cicm] CICM X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:50:04 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC4BBC.6F3F87E8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To the CICM Forum, =20 L-3 Communications Systems East supports approval of the CICM standard by the IETF. In our view, it is necessary to have a cryptographic module interface specification to enhance standardization of cryptographic products throughout the commercial and government domains. The common command set and structures described in the CICM standard allow greater reuse of cryptographic products and designs from various suppliers across divergent platforms and applications - thus offering the promise of reducing overall development, integration and test cost for the cryptographic systems. Such a specification enhances the security posture of future systems we will use, develop, and/or depend on. =20 Thank you for your consideration. =20 =20 James L Howard Director and Chief Engineer, Secure Space and Sensors Systems (S4) L-3 Communications, Communication Systems-East 1 Federal Street Camden, NJ 08103 James.L.Howard@L-3Com.com (856) 338-3504 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC4BBC.6F3F87E8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To the CICM Forum,

 

L-3 Communications Systems = East supports approval of the CICM standard by the IETF.  In our = view, it is necessary to have a cryptographic module interface = specification to enhance standardization of cryptographic products = throughout the commercial and government domains.   The common = command set and structures described in the CICM standard allow greater = reuse of cryptographic products and designs from various suppliers = across divergent platforms and applications – thus offering the = promise of reducing overall development, integration and test cost for = the cryptographic systems.  Such a specification enhances the = security posture of future systems we will use, develop, and/or depend = on.

 

Thank you for your = consideration.

 

 

James L Howard

Director and Chief Engineer, Secure Space and Sensors = Systems (S4)

L-3 Communications, = Communication Systems-East

1 Federal = Street

Camden, NJ = 08103

James.L.Howard@L-3Com.com

(856) 338-3504

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01CC4BBC.6F3F87E8-- From lnovikov@mitre.org Wed Jul 27 06:53:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C3B5E8028 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:53:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p3GXrJPxZlgR for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3882F5E801E for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id AF26021B172D for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:53:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub2.MITRE.ORG (imchub2.mitre.org [129.83.29.74]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA29721B1704 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:53:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub2.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.74]) with mapi; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:53:52 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: CICM Discussion List Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:52:10 -0400 Thread-Topic: Proposed WG Charter Thread-Index: AcxCfBWs80MJFD3zR36mcu2vBnkWiwJ541YA Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [cicm] Proposed WG Charter X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:53:53 -0000 A few weeks ago, there were some tweaks to the charter language from "sheph= erd" to "propose" that were not finished. Below is an updated text (changes are in the second paragraph). Thanks, Lev From: http://code.google.com/p/ietf-cicm/wiki/WGCharter The Common Interface to Cryptographic Modules (CICM) defines an abstract API for the security services provided by cryptographic modules=20 developed by multiple vendors. The API is intended to support high=20 assurance cryptography, security domain separation, and enhanced module, key, and channel management capabilities that are vendor neutral. The purpose of the CICM Working Group is to publish an API for high=20 assurance cryptographic devices and to provide guidance for any new=20 submissions related to high assurance cryptos. Specifically, the Working Group will: Complete existing requests: * replace algorithm strings with OIDs * use ABNF notation for unique identifiers syntax * add module events for symmetric and asymmetric key filled * add unprotected-side APIs for: * moving data into / out of the module * performing administrative functions (e.g., supply IV,=20 header-bypass data) Shepard the following documents to publication: * draft-lanz-cicm * draft-lanz-cicm-lm * draft-lanz-cicm-mm * draft-lanz-cicm-km * draft-lanz-cicm-cm Goals and Milestones TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm-lm to WG TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm to WG TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm-mm to WG TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm-km to WG TBD Submit draft-lanz-cicm to the IESG as Proposed Standard From prvs=18223e515=Hema.Krishnamurthy@itt.com Wed Jul 27 07:02:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6990F21F86A1 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:02:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id amQUDpoWaHOF for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:02:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cip-fwa-c2.itt.com (cip-fwa-c2.itt.com [151.190.252.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE4A21F869C for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:02:23 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtUAACMaME4KHOwH/2dsb2JhbAA1AQEFM0kaAgEaBAEBNAcUIxgOCAEBBRcMglGVGo5hgV7LEYVhXwSYBYtu X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.67,276,1309737600"; d="scan'208,217";a="99148639" Received: from usfwa1exhub3.itt.net ([10.28.236.7]) by cip-fwa-c2.itt.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 27 Jul 2011 14:02:23 +0000 Received: from USFWA1EXCAS5.itt.net (10.28.236.33) by USFWA1EXHUB3.itt.net (10.28.236.7) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.255.0; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:02:18 -0400 Received: from CSFWCAS2.cs.de.ittind.com (10.32.129.152) by USFWA1EXCAS5.itt.net (10.28.236.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:02:18 -0400 Received: from CSFWMAIL1.cs.de.ittind.com ([10.32.129.153]) by CSFWCAS2.cs.de.ittind.com ([10.32.129.152]) with mapi; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:02:18 -0400 From: "Krishnamurthy, Hema - ES" To: CICM Discussion List Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:02:15 -0400 Thread-Topic: ITT support for CICM Thread-Index: AcxLlzC4+OvPmQgTRrOC9TGmz8+I1wAzoNbg Message-ID: <86150541B533894DAD5CB2DB3F4788520E2AE58477@CSFWMAIL1.cs.de.ittind.com> References: <9E44F211351FCC4190037CD43860C3F001407FB0@csemail02.cse.l-3com.com> In-Reply-To: <9E44F211351FCC4190037CD43860C3F001407FB0@csemail02.cse.l-3com.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_86150541B533894DAD5CB2DB3F4788520E2AE58477CSFWMAIL1csde_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [cicm] ITT support for CICM X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:02:24 -0000 --_000_86150541B533894DAD5CB2DB3F4788520E2AE58477CSFWMAIL1csde_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ITT Communications Systems - Information Assurance Group supports approval = of the CICM standard by the IETF. Based on our past cryptographic experien= ce, we deem it necessary to have a common cryptographic module interface sp= ecification to provide support for high assurance/medium assurance cryptogr= aphic products while facilitating cryptographic vendors to reuse cryptograp= hic modules from different vendors. Availability of common APIs allows cryp= tographic modules to be used in various applications like data at rest and = secure communications with minimal integration effort. From: cicm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:cicm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fra= nk.Costantini@L-3Com.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:23 AM To: cicm@ietf.org Cc: Smith, Walter M @ CSG - CSE Subject: [cicm] CICM standard support To the CICM Forum, L-3 Communications Systems East would like to express support for approval = of the CICM standard by the IETF. Our company produces a variety of crypto= graphic products for use in tactical Airborne, Man-Portable, Ground, Shipbo= ard and Satellite platforms and also for strategic applications. The commo= n command set and structure described the CICM standard will allow greater = reuse of cryptographic products and designs from various suppliers across d= ivergent platforms and applications while reducing overall development, int= egration and test cost for the cryptographic system and for the overall pla= tform. Thank you for your consideration. Frank Costantini Chief Engineer, Information Assurance L-3 Communication Systems-East 1 Federal Street, AE-3NE, Camden, NJ 08103 ________________________________ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are in= tended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addr= essed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender. 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ITT Communications Systems - Information Assuranc= e Group supports approval of the CICM standard by the IETF.  Based on = our past cryptographic experience, we deem it necessary to have a common cr= yptographic module interface specification to provide support for high assurance/medium assurance cryptographic produ= cts while facilitating cryptographic vendors to reuse cryptographic modules= from different vendors. Availability of common APIs allows cryptographic m= odules to be used in various applications like data at rest and secure communications with minimal integration effor= t.

 

 

From: cicm-bou= nces@ietf.org [mailto:cicm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Frank.Costantini@L-3Com.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:23 AM
To: cicm@ietf.org
Cc: Smith, Walter M @ CSG - CSE
Subject: [cicm] CICM standard support

 

To the CICM Forum,

 

L-3 Communications Systems East would like to expres= s support for approval of the CICM standard by the IETF.  Our company = produces a variety of cryptographic products for use in tactical Airborne, = Man-Portable, Ground, Shipboard and Satellite platforms and also for strategic applications.  The common command se= t and structure described the CICM standard will allow greater reuse of cry= ptographic products and designs from various suppliers across divergent pla= tforms and applications while reducing overall development, integration and test cost for the cryptographic syste= m and for the overall platform.

 

Thank you for your consideration.

 

Frank Costantini

Chief Engineer, Information Assurance

L-3 Commu= nication Systems-East
1 Federal Street, AE-3NE, Camden, NJ 08103

 


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ITT accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. --_000_86150541B533894DAD5CB2DB3F4788520E2AE58477CSFWMAIL1csde_-- From lnovikov@mitre.org Wed Jul 27 08:06:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B35421F8B9F for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:06:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wAzf6931WhlE for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B0221F84E9 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id CFB7E21B1EE3 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub1.MITRE.ORG (imchub1.mitre.org [129.83.29.73]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBED921B1ECD for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub1.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.73]) with mapi; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:06:10 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: CICM Discussion List Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:05:06 -0400 Thread-Topic: Proposed WG Charter Thread-Index: AcxCfBWs80MJFD3zR36mcu2vBnkWiwJ541YAAAKjJ5A= Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [cicm] Proposed WG Charter X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:06:12 -0000 Well, that was silly. Here's the REAL updated draft. (hat tip: Sean) Apologies, Lev From: http://code.google.com/p/ietf-cicm/wiki/WGCharter =3D Description of Working Group =3D The Common Interface to Cryptographic Modules (CICM) defines an abstract API for the security services provided by cryptographic modules=20 developed by multiple vendors. The API is intended to support high=20 assurance cryptography, security domain separation, and enhanced module, key, and channel management capabilities that are vendor neutral. The purpose of the CICM Working Group is to publish an API for high=20 assurance cryptographic devices and to provide guidance for any new=20 submissions related to high assurance cryptos. Specifically, the Working Group will: * Complete existing requests: * replace algorithm strings with OIDs * use ABNF notation for unique identifiers syntax * add module events for symmetric and asymmetric key fill * add unprotected-side APIs for: * moving data into / out of the module * performing administrative functions (e.g., supply IV,=20 header-bypass data) * Propose the following documents to the Working Group: * draft-lanz-cicm * draft-lanz-cicm-lm * draft-lanz-cicm-mm * draft-lanz-cicm-km * draft-lanz-cicm-cm =3D Goals and Milestones =3D TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm-lm to WG TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm to WG TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm-mm to WG TBD introduce draft-lanz-cicm-km to WG TBD Submit draft-lanz-cicm to the IESG as Proposed Standard From lnovikov@mitre.org Wed Jul 27 10:41:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: cicm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D17F11E808E for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:41:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7WwD97pb1czv for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9CC11E80DF for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id DC7E821B1B08 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imchub2.MITRE.ORG (imchub2.mitre.org [129.83.29.74]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D780F21B17B8 for ; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX3.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.206]) by imchub2.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.74]) with mapi; Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:41:09 -0400 From: "Novikov, Lev" To: CICM Discussion List Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:39:53 -0400 Thread-Topic: CICM BOF Jabber Info Thread-Index: AcxLpDLW/5KH3ufMT52XZwO62+U6mgABhy0AADZyazA= Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [cicm] CICM BOF Jabber Info X-BeenThere: cicm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CICM Discussion List List-Id: CICM Discussion List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:41:11 -0000 FYI:=20 * Slides are available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/81/material= s.html#wg-cicm * Time Zone is Eastern. Thanks, Lev -----Original Message----- From: cicm-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:cicm-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nov= ikov, Lev Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:48 To: CICM Discussion List (cicm@ietf.org) Subject: [cicm] CICM BOF Jabber Info The CICM BOF is still scheduled for Tomorrow (Wed, 2011-07-27) from=20 15:10 - 16:10. The jabber room is: cicm@jabber.ietf.org FYI:=20 Participation in the IETF is subject to the NOTE WELL found at: http://www.ietf.org/about/note-well.html =20 Everything you type is logged! http://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/cicm@jabber.ietf.org/ How to Participate (READ INSTRUCTIONS FIRST) 1. Open the audio stream in an audio player (e.g., Windows Media Player) http://ietf81streaming.dnsalias.net/ietf/ietf806.m3u (This is a room feed, so you can listen to whoever is speaking in that=20 room right now.) 2. You need a public jabber handle. You can get one: a. Visit https://register.jabber.org/ b. Provide a username and password. c. Click "Register" (You DO NOT need to download one of their clients) =20 3. You need a jabber client. You can use a free online one: a. Visit http://jwchat.org/ b. Change "Server" to "jabber.org" c. Provide your username and password (from 2b above). (You DO NOT need to "Register New Account") d. Click "Login" (a new window will pop-up) 4. You need to connect to . For jwchat: a. Click the group icon (Join Groupchat) in the=20 lower left corner of the popup. b. Change "Room" to "cicm", "Server" to "jabber.ietf.org"=20 (leave "Password" blank) d. Click "Join" You can join the room at any time (even now!). Please try it out and let me= =20 know if you have any issues connecting. Thanks, Lev _______________________________________________ cicm mailing list cicm@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/cicm