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Hi,

Once again,  if there are enough people interested in discussions (along=20
the lines scoped out below), we should get together at the IETF in=20
London.

I=E2=80=99m proposing we meet on Tuesday afternoon, say at 4:30pm, assumi=
ng we=20
can find a room (has anyone seen reservable rooms?).   Please let me=20
know if you are interested (and how many of you there are, if responding=20
on behalf of a bunch of people :-) ).


Thanks,
Leslie.


Video Content Handling and the IETF

=E2=80=9CVideo content handling=E2=80=9D (delivery, management, etc)  ove=
r IP=20
networks, from production to distribution till the end user, covers a=20
vast range of technologies and uses.  Its use of Internet technologies=20
is changing traditional industries and Internet technologies at the same=20
time.   Creative uses of technologies for video content handling, and=20
opportunities for new uses, abound.  None of this will be realized=20
effectively without increased communication between engineers working in=20
different parts of the problem space.

The purpose of the group is to provide a forum to discuss current issues=20
in handling video on the Internet and with Internet protocols.

The scope is deliberately broad in topics covered, and shallow in terms=20
of purpose.  Problems are identified and discussed, and, where possible,=20
appropriate venues for further discussion are identified.  Work can be=20
done to refine problem statements for individual work items that are=20
proposed in IETF WGs or elsewhere.   This forum is appropriate for=20
sharing and discussing, but it is not expected to develop protocols or=20
technologies.

Breadth of topic areas includes:
	. (end to end) transport, distribution and production of video, across=20
multiple (potential) architectures,
	. the existing architectures
	. working within low-resourced networks.

This includes signaling, MPEG multimedia, subtitles, containers and=20
gateways/gateway performance.

The important outcomes of discussion are:  knowledge sharing and help in=20
framing problem statements and finding appropriate venues to address=20
them.


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Thanks, Roni,  for the pointer to the room reservations :-)

A couple of people have noted interest but conflicts with the 4:30pm on=20
Tuesday time.   Another possible time is 3pm on Monday.

I have tentatively reserved rooms at each of these times (the larger=20
room is already booked for the Tuesday slot).

Please let me know if you have a preference or conflict with one or=20
other slot, and I=E2=80=99ll look to finalize the choice by mid-week this=
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week.

Thanks,
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On 4 Mar 2018, at 2:29, Roni Even (A) wrote:

> Hi Leslie,
> This works for me.
> As for a meeting room look in the meeting wiki=20
> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/ietf101
> Roni
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GGIE [mailto:ggie-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leslie Daigle
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 1:10 AM
> To: ggie@ietf.org
> Subject: [GGIE] Video Content Handling -- informal meeting at IETF 101=20
> in London?
>
> Hi,
>
> Once again,  if there are enough people interested in discussions=20
> (along the lines scoped out below), we should get together at the IETF=20
> in London.
>
> I=E2=80=99m proposing we meet on Tuesday afternoon, say at 4:30pm, assu=
ming=20
> we
> can find a room (has anyone seen reservable rooms?).   Please let me
> know if you are interested (and how many of you there are, if=20
> responding on behalf of a bunch of people :-) ).
>
>
> Thanks,
> Leslie.
>
>
> Video Content Handling and the IETF
>
> =E2=80=9CVideo content handling=E2=80=9D (delivery, management, etc)  o=
ver IP
> networks, from production to distribution till the end user, covers a
> vast range of technologies and uses.  Its use of Internet technologies
> is changing traditional industries and Internet technologies at the=20
> same
> time.   Creative uses of technologies for video content handling, and
> opportunities for new uses, abound.  None of this will be realized
> effectively without increased communication between engineers working=20
> in
> different parts of the problem space.
>
> The purpose of the group is to provide a forum to discuss current=20
> issues
> in handling video on the Internet and with Internet protocols.
>
> The scope is deliberately broad in topics covered, and shallow in=20
> terms
> of purpose.  Problems are identified and discussed, and, where=20
> possible,
> appropriate venues for further discussion are identified.  Work can be
> done to refine problem statements for individual work items that are
> proposed in IETF WGs or elsewhere.   This forum is appropriate for
> sharing and discussing, but it is not expected to develop protocols or
> technologies.
>
> Breadth of topic areas includes:
> 	. (end to end) transport, distribution and production of video,=20
> across
> multiple (potential) architectures,
> 	. the existing architectures
> 	. working within low-resourced networks.
>
> This includes signaling, MPEG multimedia, subtitles, containers and
> gateways/gateway performance.
>
> The important outcomes of discussion are:  knowledge sharing and help=20
> in
> framing problem statements and finding appropriate venues to address
> them.
>
>
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<p dir=3D"auto">Thanks, Roni,  for the pointer to the room reservations :=
-) </p>

<p dir=3D"auto">A couple of people have noted interest but conflicts with=
 the 4:30pm on Tuesday time.   Another possible time is 3pm on Monday.  <=
/p>

<p dir=3D"auto">I have tentatively reserved rooms at each of these times =
(the larger room is already booked for the Tuesday slot).</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Please let me know if you have a preference or conflict w=
ith one or other slot, and I=E2=80=99ll look to finalize the choice by mi=
d-week this week.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Thanks,<br>
Leslie.</p>

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<p dir=3D"auto">Leslie Daigle<br>
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises</p>

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<p dir=3D"auto">On 4 Mar 2018, at 2:29, Roni Even (A) wrote:</p>

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i Leslie,<br>
This works for me.<br>
As for a meeting room look in the meeting wiki <a href=3D"https://trac.ie=
tf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/ietf101" style=3D"color:#777">https://trac.=
ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/ietf101</a><br>
Roni<br>
<br>
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From: GGIE [<a href=3D"mailto:ggie-bounces@ietf.org" style=3D"color:#777"=
>mailto:ggie-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Leslie Daigle<br>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 1:10 AM<br>
To: ggie@ietf.org<br>
Subject: [GGIE] Video Content Handling -- informal meeting at IETF 101 in=
 London?<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
Once again,  if there are enough people interested in discussions (along =
the lines scoped out below), we should get together at the IETF in London=
=2E<br>
<br>
I=E2=80=99m proposing we meet on Tuesday afternoon, say at 4:30pm, assumi=
ng we<br>
can find a room (has anyone seen reservable rooms?).   Please let me<br>
know if you are interested (and how many of you there are, if responding =
on behalf of a bunch of people :-) ).<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Leslie.<br>
<br>
<br>
Video Content Handling and the IETF<br>
<br>
=E2=80=9CVideo content handling=E2=80=9D (delivery, management, etc)  ove=
r IP<br>
networks, from production to distribution till the end user, covers a<br>=

vast range of technologies and uses.  Its use of Internet technologies<br=
>
is changing traditional industries and Internet technologies at the same<=
br>
time.   Creative uses of technologies for video content handling, and<br>=

opportunities for new uses, abound.  None of this will be realized<br>
effectively without increased communication between engineers working in<=
br>
different parts of the problem space.<br>
<br>
The purpose of the group is to provide a forum to discuss current issues<=
br>
in handling video on the Internet and with Internet protocols.<br>
<br>
The scope is deliberately broad in topics covered, and shallow in terms<b=
r>
of purpose.  Problems are identified and discussed, and, where possible,<=
br>
appropriate venues for further discussion are identified.  Work can be<br=
>
done to refine problem statements for individual work items that are<br>
proposed in IETF WGs or elsewhere.   This forum is appropriate for<br>
sharing and discussing, but it is not expected to develop protocols or<br=
>
technologies.<br>
<br>
Breadth of topic areas includes:<br>
	. (end to end) transport, distribution and production of video, across<b=
r>
multiple (potential) architectures,<br>
	. the existing architectures<br>
	. working within low-resourced networks.<br>
<br>
This includes signaling, MPEG multimedia, subtitles, containers and<br>
gateways/gateway performance.<br>
<br>
The important outcomes of discussion are:  knowledge sharing and help in<=
br>
framing problem statements and finding appropriate venues to address<br>
them.<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
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Leslie Daigle<br>
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises<br>
ldaigle@thinkingcat.com<br>
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Hi,

Okay =E2=80=94 final choice is:  3:30pm - 4:30pm on Monday March 19.  I h=
ave=20
reserved the larger breakout room (Hilton 1-4).    Calendar invite=20
attached for those that need it.

Talk to you soon!

Leslie.

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Leslie Daigle
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
ldaigle@thinkingcat.com
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On 4 Mar 2018, at 14:50, Leslie Daigle wrote:

> Thanks, Roni,  for the pointer to the room reservations :-)
>
> A couple of people have noted interest but conflicts with the 4:30pm=20
> on Tuesday time.   Another possible time is 3pm on Monday.
>
> I have tentatively reserved rooms at each of these times (the larger=20
> room is already booked for the Tuesday slot).
>
> Please let me know if you have a preference or conflict with one or=20
> other slot, and I=E2=80=99ll look to finalize the choice by mid-week th=
is=20
> week.
>
> Thanks,
> Leslie.
>
> --=20
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> Leslie Daigle
> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> On 4 Mar 2018, at 2:29, Roni Even (A) wrote:
>
>> Hi Leslie,
>> This works for me.
>> As for a meeting room look in the meeting wiki=20
>> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/ietf101
>> Roni
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: GGIE [mailto:ggie-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leslie Daigle
>> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 1:10 AM
>> To: ggie@ietf.org
>> Subject: [GGIE] Video Content Handling -- informal meeting at IETF=20
>> 101 in London?
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Once again,  if there are enough people interested in discussions=20
>> (along the lines scoped out below), we should get together at the=20
>> IETF in London.
>>
>> I=E2=80=99m proposing we meet on Tuesday afternoon, say at 4:30pm, ass=
uming=20
>> we
>> can find a room (has anyone seen reservable rooms?).   Please let me
>> know if you are interested (and how many of you there are, if=20
>> responding on behalf of a bunch of people :-) ).
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Leslie.
>>
>>
>> Video Content Handling and the IETF
>>
>> =E2=80=9CVideo content handling=E2=80=9D (delivery, management, etc)  =
over IP
>> networks, from production to distribution till the end user, covers a
>> vast range of technologies and uses.  Its use of Internet=20
>> technologies
>> is changing traditional industries and Internet technologies at the=20
>> same
>> time.   Creative uses of technologies for video content handling, and
>> opportunities for new uses, abound.  None of this will be realized
>> effectively without increased communication between engineers working=20
>> in
>> different parts of the problem space.
>>
>> The purpose of the group is to provide a forum to discuss current=20
>> issues
>> in handling video on the Internet and with Internet protocols.
>>
>> The scope is deliberately broad in topics covered, and shallow in=20
>> terms
>> of purpose.  Problems are identified and discussed, and, where=20
>> possible,
>> appropriate venues for further discussion are identified.  Work can=20
>> be
>> done to refine problem statements for individual work items that are
>> proposed in IETF WGs or elsewhere.   This forum is appropriate for
>> sharing and discussing, but it is not expected to develop protocols=20
>> or
>> technologies.
>>
>> Breadth of topic areas includes:
>> 	. (end to end) transport, distribution and production of video,=20
>> across
>> multiple (potential) architectures,
>> 	. the existing architectures
>> 	. working within low-resourced networks.
>>
>> This includes signaling, MPEG multimedia, subtitles, containers and
>> gateways/gateway performance.
>>
>> The important outcomes of discussion are:  knowledge sharing and help=20
>> in
>> framing problem statements and finding appropriate venues to address
>> them.
>>
>>
>> --=20
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Leslie Daigle
>> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
>> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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<p dir=3D"auto">Hi,</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Okay =E2=80=94 final choice is:  3:30pm - 4:30pm on Monda=
y March 19.  I have reserved the larger breakout room (Hilton 1-4).    Ca=
lendar invite attached for those that need it.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Talk to you soon!</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Leslie.</p>

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Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises</p>

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<p dir=3D"auto">On 4 Mar 2018, at 14:50, Leslie Daigle wrote:</p>

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<p dir=3D"auto">Thanks, Roni,  for the pointer to the room reservations :=
-) </p>

<p dir=3D"auto">A couple of people have noted interest but conflicts with=
 the 4:30pm on Tuesday time.   Another possible time is 3pm on Monday.  <=
/p>

<p dir=3D"auto">I have tentatively reserved rooms at each of these times =
(the larger room is already booked for the Tuesday slot).</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Please let me know if you have a preference or conflict w=
ith one or other slot, and I=E2=80=99ll look to finalize the choice by mi=
d-week this week.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">Thanks,<br>
Leslie.</p>

<p dir=3D"auto">-- </p>

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<p dir=3D"auto">Leslie Daigle<br>
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises</p>

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<p dir=3D"auto">On 4 Mar 2018, at 2:29, Roni Even (A) wrote:</p>

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lid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir=3D"auto">H=
i Leslie,<br>
This works for me.<br>
As for a meeting room look in the meeting wiki <a href=3D"https://trac.ie=
tf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/ietf101" style=3D"color:#777">https://trac.=
ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/ietf101</a><br>
Roni<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: GGIE [<a href=3D"mailto:ggie-bounces@ietf.org" style=3D"color:#777"=
>mailto:ggie-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On Behalf Of Leslie Daigle<br>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 1:10 AM<br>
To: ggie@ietf.org<br>
Subject: [GGIE] Video Content Handling -- informal meeting at IETF 101 in=
 London?<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
Once again,  if there are enough people interested in discussions (along =
the lines scoped out below), we should get together at the IETF in London=
=2E<br>
<br>
I=E2=80=99m proposing we meet on Tuesday afternoon, say at 4:30pm, assumi=
ng we<br>
can find a room (has anyone seen reservable rooms?).   Please let me<br>
know if you are interested (and how many of you there are, if responding =
on behalf of a bunch of people :-) ).<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Leslie.<br>
<br>
<br>
Video Content Handling and the IETF<br>
<br>
=E2=80=9CVideo content handling=E2=80=9D (delivery, management, etc)  ove=
r IP<br>
networks, from production to distribution till the end user, covers a<br>=

vast range of technologies and uses.  Its use of Internet technologies<br=
>
is changing traditional industries and Internet technologies at the same<=
br>
time.   Creative uses of technologies for video content handling, and<br>=

opportunities for new uses, abound.  None of this will be realized<br>
effectively without increased communication between engineers working in<=
br>
different parts of the problem space.<br>
<br>
The purpose of the group is to provide a forum to discuss current issues<=
br>
in handling video on the Internet and with Internet protocols.<br>
<br>
The scope is deliberately broad in topics covered, and shallow in terms<b=
r>
of purpose.  Problems are identified and discussed, and, where possible,<=
br>
appropriate venues for further discussion are identified.  Work can be<br=
>
done to refine problem statements for individual work items that are<br>
proposed in IETF WGs or elsewhere.   This forum is appropriate for<br>
sharing and discussing, but it is not expected to develop protocols or<br=
>
technologies.<br>
<br>
Breadth of topic areas includes:<br>
	. (end to end) transport, distribution and production of video, across<b=
r>
multiple (potential) architectures,<br>
	. the existing architectures<br>
	. working within low-resourced networks.<br>
<br>
This includes signaling, MPEG multimedia, subtitles, containers and<br>
gateways/gateway performance.<br>
<br>
The important outcomes of discussion are:  knowledge sharing and help in<=
br>
framing problem statements and finding appropriate venues to address<br>
them.<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
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Leslie Daigle<br>
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises<br>
ldaigle@thinkingcat.com<br>
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Sorry to hear that, we=E2=80=99ll miss you =E2=80=94 as always, at the IE=
TF, there=20
is never any good time :-/

Leslie.

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Leslie Daigle
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
ldaigle@thinkingcat.com
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On 11 Mar 2018, at 19:18, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:

> Leslie
>
> I am afraid that due to my vacations I was unable to participate in=20
> this discussion but that time collides with INTAREA where I am=20
> presenting an important I-D (with the usual Cisco 'suspects' ...)
>
> -=C3=A9ric
>
> From: GGIE <ggie-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Leslie Daigle=20
> <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>
> Date: Wednesday 7 March 2018 at 04:00
> To: "ggie@ietf.org" <ggie@ietf.org>
> Subject: [GGIE] Final! Monday, 3:30pm. Re: Or Monday? Re: Video=20
> Content Handling -- informal meeting at IETF 101 in London?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Okay =E2=80=94 final choice is: 3:30pm - 4:30pm on Monday March 19. I h=
ave=20
> reserved the larger breakout room (Hilton 1-4). Calendar invite=20
> attached for those that need it.
>
> Talk to you soon!
>
> Leslie.
>
> --
>
> ________________________________
>
> Leslie Daigle
> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
>
> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com<mailto:ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>
>
> On 4 Mar 2018, at 14:50, Leslie Daigle wrote:
>
> Thanks, Roni, for the pointer to the room reservations :-)
>
> A couple of people have noted interest but conflicts with the 4:30pm=20
> on Tuesday time. Another possible time is 3pm on Monday.
>
> I have tentatively reserved rooms at each of these times (the larger=20
> room is already booked for the Tuesday slot).
>
> Please let me know if you have a preference or conflict with one or=20
> other slot, and I=E2=80=99ll look to finalize the choice by mid-week th=
is=20
> week.
>
> Thanks,
> Leslie.
>
> --
>
> ________________________________
>
> Leslie Daigle
> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
>
> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com<mailto:ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>
>
> On 4 Mar 2018, at 2:29, Roni Even (A) wrote:
>
> Hi Leslie,
> This works for me.
> As for a meeting room look in the meeting wiki=20
> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/ietf101
> Roni
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GGIE [mailto:ggie-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Leslie Daigle
> Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 1:10 AM
> To: ggie@ietf.org
> Subject: [GGIE] Video Content Handling -- informal meeting at IETF 101=20
> in London?
>
> Hi,
>
> Once again, if there are enough people interested in discussions=20
> (along the lines scoped out below), we should get together at the IETF=20
> in London.
>
> I=E2=80=99m proposing we meet on Tuesday afternoon, say at 4:30pm, assu=
ming=20
> we
> can find a room (has anyone seen reservable rooms?). Please let me
> know if you are interested (and how many of you there are, if=20
> responding on behalf of a bunch of people :-) ).
>
>
> Thanks,
> Leslie.
>
>
> Video Content Handling and the IETF
>
> =E2=80=9CVideo content handling=E2=80=9D (delivery, management, etc) ov=
er IP
> networks, from production to distribution till the end user, covers a
> vast range of technologies and uses. Its use of Internet technologies
> is changing traditional industries and Internet technologies at the=20
> same
> time. Creative uses of technologies for video content handling, and
> opportunities for new uses, abound. None of this will be realized
> effectively without increased communication between engineers working=20
> in
> different parts of the problem space.
>
> The purpose of the group is to provide a forum to discuss current=20
> issues
> in handling video on the Internet and with Internet protocols.
>
> The scope is deliberately broad in topics covered, and shallow in=20
> terms
> of purpose. Problems are identified and discussed, and, where=20
> possible,
> appropriate venues for further discussion are identified. Work can be
> done to refine problem statements for individual work items that are
> proposed in IETF WGs or elsewhere. This forum is appropriate for
> sharing and discussing, but it is not expected to develop protocols or
> technologies.
>
> Breadth of topic areas includes:
> . (end to end) transport, distribution and production of video, across
> multiple (potential) architectures,
> . the existing architectures
> . working within low-resourced networks.
>
> This includes signaling, MPEG multimedia, subtitles, containers and
> gateways/gateway performance.
>
> The important outcomes of discussion are: knowledge sharing and help=20
> in
> framing problem statements and finding appropriate venues to address
> them.
>
>
> --
>
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> Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises
> ldaigle@thinkingcat.com
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@ietf.org&gt; on behalf of Leslie Daigle &lt;ldaigle@thinkingcat.com&gt;<=
br>
<b>Date: </b>Wednesday 7 March 2018 at 04:00<br>
<b>To: </b>"ggie@ietf.org" &lt;ggie@ietf.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject: </b>[GGIE] Final! Monday, 3:30pm. Re: Or Monday? Re: Video Co=
ntent Handling -- informal meeting at IETF 101 in London?</span></p>
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final choice is: 3:30pm - 4:30pm on Monday March 19. I have reserved the =
larger breakout room (Hilton 1-4). Calendar invite attached for those tha=
t need it.</span></p>
<p style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"; font-size:12pt; margin-left:0;=
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-style-priority:99'><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">Talk to you soo=
n!</span></p>
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<p style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"; font-size:12pt; margin-left:0;=
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r>
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises</span></p>
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old; margin-left:0; margin-right:0; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-margi=
n-top-alt:auto; mso-style-link:"Heading 2 Char"; mso-style-priority:9'><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Helvetica"><a href=3D"mailto:ld=
aigle@thinkingcat.com" style=3D":visited{color:purple; mso-style-priority=
:99; text-decoration:underline} :link{color:blue; mso-style-priority:99; =
text-decoration:underline}"><span style=3D"color:#3983C4">ldaigle@thinkin=
gcat.com</span></a></span></h2>
<p style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"; font-size:12pt; margin-left:0;=
 margin-right:0; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; mso=
-style-priority:99'><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">On 4 Mar 2018, =
at 14:50, Leslie Daigle wrote:</span></p>
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<p style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"; font-size:12pt; margin-left:0;=
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-style-priority:99'><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;color:#777777">T=
hanks, Roni, for the pointer to the room reservations :-)
</span></p>
<p style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"; font-size:12pt; margin-left:0;=
 margin-right:0; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; mso=
-style-priority:99'><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;color:#777777">A=
 couple of people have noted interest but conflicts with the 4:30pm on Tu=
esday time. Another possible time is 3pm on Monday.
</span></p>
<p style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"; font-size:12pt; margin-left:0;=
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-style-priority:99'><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;color:#777777">I=
 have tentatively reserved rooms at each of these times (the larger room =
is already booked for the Tuesday slot).</span></p>
<p style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"; font-size:12pt; margin-left:0;=
 margin-right:0; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; mso=
-style-priority:99'><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;color:#777777">P=
lease let me know if you have a preference or conflict with one or other =
slot, and I=E2=80=99ll look to finalize the choice by mid-week this week.=
</span></p>
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-style-priority:99'><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;color:#777777">T=
hanks,<br>
Leslie.</span></p>
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eslie Daigle<br>
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises</span></p>
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old; margin-left:0; margin-right:0; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-margi=
n-top-alt:auto; mso-style-link:"Heading 2 Char"; mso-style-priority:9'><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#777777"><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:ldaigle@thinkingcat.com" style=3D":visited{color:purple; mso-=
style-priority:99; text-decoration:underline} :link{color:blue; mso-style=
-priority:99; text-decoration:underline}"><span style=3D"color:#3983C4">l=
daigle@thinkingcat.com</span></a></span></h2>
<p style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman"; font-size:12pt; margin-left:0;=
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n 4 Mar 2018, at 2:29, Roni Even (A) wrote:</span></p>
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 margin-right:0; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; mso-margin-top-alt:auto; mso=
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i Leslie,<br>
This works for me.<br>
As for a meeting room look in the meeting wiki <a href=3D"https://trac.ie=
tf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/ietf101" style=3D":visited{color:purple; ms=
o-style-priority:99; text-decoration:underline} :link{color:blue; mso-sty=
le-priority:99; text-decoration:underline}">
<span style=3D"color:#777777">https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wik=
i/ietf101</span></a><br>
Roni<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: GGIE [<a href=3D"mailto:ggie-bounces@ietf.org" style=3D":visited{co=
lor:purple; mso-style-priority:99; text-decoration:underline} :link{color=
:blue; mso-style-priority:99; text-decoration:underline}"><span style=3D"=
color:#777777">mailto:ggie-bounces@ietf.org</span></a>] On Behalf Of Lesl=
ie Daigle<br>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 1:10 AM<br>
To: ggie@ietf.org<br>
Subject: [GGIE] Video Content Handling -- informal meeting at IETF 101 in=
 London?<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
Once again, if there are enough people interested in discussions (along t=
he lines scoped out below), we should get together at the IETF in London.=
<br>
<br>
I=E2=80=99m proposing we meet on Tuesday afternoon, say at 4:30pm, assumi=
ng we</span><span style=3D"font-family:PMingLiU;color:#777777"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;color:#777777">can find a roo=
m (has anyone seen reservable rooms?). Please let me</span><span style=3D=
"font-family:PMingLiU;color:#777777"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;color:#777777">know if you ar=
e interested (and how many of you there are, if responding on behalf of a=
 bunch of people :-) ).<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Leslie.<br>
<br>
<br>
Video Content Handling and the IETF<br>
<br>
=E2=80=9CVideo content handling=E2=80=9D (delivery, management, etc) over=
 IP</span><span style=3D"font-family:PMingLiU;color:#777777"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;color:#777777">networks, from=
 production to distribution till the end user, covers a</span><span style=
=3D"font-family:PMingLiU;color:#777777"><br>
</span><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;color:#777777">vast range of =
technologies and uses. Its use of Internet technologies<br>
is changing traditional industries and Internet technologies at the same<=
br>
time. Creative uses of technologies for video content handling, and<br>
opportunities for new uses, abound. None of this will be realized<br>
effectively without increased communication between engineers working in<=
br>
different parts of the problem space.<br>
<br>
The purpose of the group is to provide a forum to discuss current issues<=
br>
in handling video on the Internet and with Internet protocols.<br>
<br>
The scope is deliberately broad in topics covered, and shallow in terms<b=
r>
of purpose. Problems are identified and discussed, and, where possible,<b=
r>
appropriate venues for further discussion are identified. Work can be<br>=

done to refine problem statements for individual work items that are<br>
proposed in IETF WGs or elsewhere. This forum is appropriate for<br>
sharing and discussing, but it is not expected to develop protocols or<br=
>
technologies.<br>
<br>
Breadth of topic areas includes:<br>
=2E (end to end) transport, distribution and production of video, across<=
br>
multiple (potential) architectures,<br>
=2E the existing architectures<br>
=2E working within low-resourced networks.<br>
<br>
This includes signaling, MPEG multimedia, subtitles, containers and<br>
gateways/gateway performance.<br>
<br>
The important outcomes of discussion are: knowledge sharing and help in<b=
r>
framing problem statements and finding appropriate venues to address<br>
them.<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
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Leslie Daigle<br>
Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises<br>
ldaigle@thinkingcat.com<br>
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