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Sun, 1 Aug 2021 03:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============5363337518167725616==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Repository Activity Summary Bot To: httpapi@ietf.org Message-Id: <20210801083108.D49CA3A3246@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 01:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [httpapi] Weekly github digest (HTTPAPI WG Activity Summary) X-BeenThere: httpapi@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Building Blocks for HTTP APIs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2021 08:31:16 -0000 --===============5363337518167725616== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Events without label "editorial" Issues ------ * ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header (+4/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC9) 4 issues created: - Requirements in Security Considerations (by mnot) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/issues/14=20 - Deprecation link relation type (by mnot) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/issues/13=20 - Fields that have alternative forms (by mnot) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/issues/12=20 - Use Structured Fields (by mnot) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/issues/11=20 3 issues received 9 new comments: - #13 Deprecation link relation type (3 by dret, mnot) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/issues/13=20 - #12 Fields that have alternative forms (3 by dret, mnot) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/issues/12=20 - #11 Use Structured Fields (3 by dret, mnot) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/issues/11=20 * ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis (+0/-2/=F0=9F=92=AC16) 5 issues received 16 new comments: - #21 provide guidance for intentionally non-dereferencable URIs (2 by mn= ot, pimterry) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis/issues/21=20 - #15 Provide an indication of whether a type URL is designed to be deref= erenced for documentation (6 by dret, mnot, pimterry) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis/issues/15=20 - #12 Problem Details Object for Warning (3 by SleeplessByte, mnot) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis/issues/12=20 - #7 Repository of common Problem types (2 by mnot) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis/issues/7=20 - #6 Multiple problems (3 by mnot) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis/issues/6=20 2 issues closed: - Repository of common Problem types https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/r= fc7807bis/issues/7=20 - provide guidance for intentionally non-dereferencable URIs https://gith= ub.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis/issues/21=20 Pull requests ------------- * ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header (+1/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC1) 1 pull requests submitted: - Editorial suggestions (by mnot) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/pull/15=20 1 pull requests received 1 new comments: - #15 Editorial suggestions (1 by dret) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/pull/15=20 1 pull requests merged: - Editorial suggestions https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/pull/15=20 * ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis (+0/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC0) 1 pull requests merged: - Propose IANA registry https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis/pull/24=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header * https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/ratelimit-headers * https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/linkset * https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/wg-materials * https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis --===============5363337518167725616== Content-Type: text/html; 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ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header (+4/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC9)

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ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis (+0/-2/=F0=9F=92=AC16)

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ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header (+1/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC1)

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This is the last open PR so I think that once we address this issue the spec just needs an editorial review and is then ready for a last call. To ease readability, I stubbed it on google docs, and you can comment it here. If there aren't great concerns I'll create a PR: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rJJb7-NRk1WxAgtel02KiVd2UwvUdQPUN5XS57hPnw4/edit# Please note that: 1. I still retain time-window, quota-units, service-limit referencing sf-integer to be able to reference the underlying concepts 2. following rfc8941, sf-item has parameters whereas sf-integer does not (see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8941#section-3.3 where sf-item = bare-item parameters bare-item = sf-integer / ... sf-integer = ["-"] 1*15DIGIT Thanks for your time, R. 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Sun, 8 Aug 2021 03:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============3042877121034744361==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Repository Activity Summary Bot To: httpapi@ietf.org Message-Id: <20210808074048.2122F3A1FAD@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2021 00:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [httpapi] Weekly github digest (HTTPAPI WG Activity Summary) X-BeenThere: httpapi@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Building Blocks for HTTP APIs List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2021 07:40:53 -0000 --===============3042877121034744361== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Events without label "editorial" Issues ------ * ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header (+0/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC4) 2 issues received 4 new comments: - #12 Fields that have alternative forms (2 by mnot, sdatspun2) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/issues/12=20 - #6 proposed example: redirect to new location (2 by reschke, sdatspun2) https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header/issues/6=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/deprecation-header * https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/ratelimit-headers * https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/linkset * https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/wg-materials * https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/rfc7807bis --===============3042877121034744361== Content-Type: text/html; 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for your input, Phil. Very helpful. Erik and I agreed to regroup early September, after our respective vacations. We will get to all Mark's comments and your feedback then and hopefully will be able to wrap up the Link Set spec soon. Greetings Herbert On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 6:00 PM Phil Archer wrote: > Dear all, > > As I'm keen to see Linkset become an RFC I've spent some time today > turning each of Mark's points here into issue in the GitHub repo. > https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/linkset/issues > > Where relevant, I've made my own comments and suggestions. > > @herbert, @dret - let me know if there's more I can do to help out here. > > Phil > > > Phil Archer > Director, Web Solutions, GS1 > https://www.gs1.org > > Meet GS1 Digital Link Developers at > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gs1-digital-link-developers > > https://philarcher.org > +44 (0)7887 767755 > @philarcher1 > Skype: philarcher > > On 29 July 2021 04:27, httpapi wrote: > > I went through the link set draft; apologies for the delay. Feedback > below; most of it is editorial. > > > * Abstract- - '...sets of links as stand-alone resources.' This doesn't > agree with the HTTP definition of 'resource'; recommend dropping this > phrase. > > * 1. Introduction (and elsewhere) -- it would be nice if this clearly said > it was defining a _serialiation_ of links, to leverage the terminology > established in 8288. > > * 1. Introduction -- it might be good to mention the nature of the two > seralisations defined; the reader doesn't find that out until section 3 > right now, where it's discussed obliquely. > > * 3. Scenarios -- usually sections like this are called something like > "Use Cases" > > * 3. Scenarios -- it feels like this section could be tightened up; it's > fairly long for the amount of content here > > * 4. Document Formats for Sets of Links -- 'In both serializations for > link sets defined here, inverse links SHOULD be represented as direct links > using the "rel" construct and by switching the position of the resources > involved in the link.' -- is this always true? I.e., for every link > relation, is it the case that the inverse relation's semantics in total are > expressed by merely reversing the subject and object? Also, this doesn't > feel like a SHOULD (which is for interoperability). > > * 4.1. HTTP Link Document Format: application/linkset -- it would be good > if this said something explicitly about whether newlines are allowed, and > gave an example. > > * 4.2.1 Set of Links -- '... the "link context object" (see Section 4.2.2) > - MUST be used to represent links' -- this is an awkward MUST; usually this > is just stated ('is'). (this applies to several other requirements below; > generally, requirements are used to specify what behaviours are necessary > for interoperability, not to merely define protocol elements). > > * 4.2.1 Set of Links -- '... MUST have "linkset" as its sole member' -- > does this imply that if there is any other member present, a receiving > implementation is required to error? > > * 4.2.2 Link Context Object -- 'SHOULD NOT be a relative reference' -- > what are the consequences of violating this SHOULD NOT? > > * 4.2.4.1. Target Attributes Defined by Web Linking -- this refers to > 3.4.1 of 8288, which defines a *different* serialisation of web links - the > Link HTTP header field. It should refer to section 2 of 8288, which defines > the abstract model of web linking, since this is a new serialisation. As > such, this section isn't really necessary; all target attributes are just > target attributes in the abstract model. > > * 4.2.4.2. Internationalised Target Attributes -- as per above, this > section is not necessary. Internationalisation of those values is a > specific feature to enable non-ascii titles in the Link header > serialisation; it's not necessary in a JSON serialisation. > > * 4.2.4.3. Extension Target Attributes -- this section should be folded > into 4.2.4. > > * 5. The "profile" attribute for media types to Represent Sets of Links -- > It'd be really helpful to have an example here. Also, they're media type > _parameters_, not attributes. > > * Appendix A - Has the 'http://www.iana.org/assignments/relation/' URI > been discussed? I note that it isn't HTTPS, and it currently redirects to > another URI. Did you consider a 'urn:ietf:params' URI? > > Cheers, > > -- > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ > > -- > httpapi mailing list > httpapi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/httpapi > > CONFIDENTIALITY / DISCLAIMER: The contents of this e-mail are > confidential and are not to be regarded as a contractual offer or > acceptance from GS1 (registered in Belgium). > If you are not the addressee, or if this has been copied or sent to you in > error, you must not use data herein for any purpose, you must delete it, > and should inform the sender. > GS1 disclaims liability for accuracy or completeness, and opinions > expressed are those of the author alone. > GS1 may monitor communications. > Third party rights acknowledged. > (c) 2020. > -- > httpapi mailing list > httpapi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/httpapi > -- ================== Herbert Van de Sompel https://hvdsomp.info https://orcid.org/0000-0002-0715-6126 --0000000000009f073705c9c3b4c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks a lot for your input, Phil. Very helpful.
<= /div>

Erik and I agreed to regroup early September, afte= r our respective vacations. We will get to all Mark's comments and your= feedback then and hopefully will be able to wrap up the Link Set spec soon= .

Greetings

Herbert

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 6:00 PM Phil Archer <phil.archer=3D40gs1.org@dmarc.ietf.org> wro= te:
Dear all,
As I'm keen to see Linkset become an RFC I've spent some time today= turning each of Mark's points here into issue in the GitHub repo. https://github.com/ietf-wg-httpapi/linkset/issues
Where relevant, I've made my own comments and suggestions.

@herbert, @dret - let me know if there's more I can do to help out here= .

Phil


Phil Archer
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On 29 July 2021 04:27, httpapi wrote:

I went through the link set draft; apologies for the delay. Feedback below;= most of it is editorial.


* Abstract- - '...sets of links as stand-alone resources.' This doe= sn't agree with the HTTP definition of 'resource'; recommend dr= opping this phrase.

* 1. Introduction (and elsewhere) -- it would be nice if this clearly said = it was defining a _serialiation_ of links, to leverage the terminology esta= blished in 8288.

* 1. Introduction -- it might be good to mention the nature of the two sera= lisations defined; the reader doesn't find that out until section 3 rig= ht now, where it's discussed obliquely.

* 3. Scenarios -- usually sections like this are called something like &quo= t;Use Cases"

* 3. Scenarios -- it feels like this section could be tightened up; it'= s fairly long for the amount of content here

* 4. Document Formats for Sets of Links -- 'In both serializations for = link sets defined here, inverse links SHOULD be represented as direct links= using the "rel" construct and by switching the position of the r= esources involved in the link.' -- is this always true? I.e., for every= link relation, is it the case that the inverse relation's semantics in= total are expressed by merely reversing the subject and object? Also, this= doesn't feel like a SHOULD (which is for interoperability).

* 4.1. HTTP Link Document Format: application/linkset -- it would be good i= f this said something explicitly about whether newlines are allowed, and ga= ve an example.

* 4.2.1 Set of Links -- '... the "link context object" (see S= ection 4.2.2) - MUST be used to represent links' -- this is an awkward = MUST; usually this is just stated ('is'). (this applies to several = other requirements below; generally, requirements are used to specify what = behaviours are necessary for interoperability, not to merely define protoco= l elements).

* 4.2.1 Set of Links -- '... MUST have "linkset" as its sole = member' -- does this imply that if there is any other member present, a= receiving implementation is required to error?

* 4.2.2 Link Context Object -- 'SHOULD NOT be a relative reference'= -- what are the consequences of violating this SHOULD NOT?

* 4.2.4.1. Target Attributes Defined by Web Linking -- this refers to 3.4.1= of 8288, which defines a *different* serialisation of web links - the Link= HTTP header field. It should refer to section 2 of 8288, which defines the= abstract model of web linking, since this is a new serialisation. As such,= this section isn't really necessary; all target attributes are just ta= rget attributes in the abstract model.

* 4.2.4.2. Internationalised Target Attributes -- as per above, this sectio= n is not necessary. Internationalisation of those values is a specific feat= ure to enable non-ascii titles in the Link header serialisation; it's n= ot necessary in a JSON serialisation.

* 4.2.4.3. Extension Target Attributes -- this section should be folded int= o 4.2.4.

* 5. The "profile" attribute for media types to Represent Sets of= Links -- It'd be really helpful to have an example here. Also, they= 9;re media type _parameters_, not attributes.

* Appendix A - Has the 'http://www.iana.org/assignments= /relation/' URI been discussed? I note that it isn't HTTPS, and= it currently redirects to another URI. Did you consider a 'urn:ietf:pa= rams' URI?

Cheers,

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spec on the back burner for a *long* time, because I = wanted to make sure it was actually useful to someone before progressing = it. I've heard from a few people that it would be useful for them in the = real world, so I'd like the WG to consider adoption. Any thoughts? Cheers, > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Subject: New Version Notification for = draft-nottingham-link-template-03.txt > Date: 1 September 2021 at 3:35:21 pm AEST > To: "Mark Nottingham" >=20 >=20 > A new version of I-D, draft-nottingham-link-template-03.txt > has been successfully submitted by Mark Nottingham and posted to the > IETF repository. >=20 > Name: draft-nottingham-link-template > Revision: 03 > Title: The Link-Template HTTP Header Field > Document date: 2021-09-01 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 5 > URL: = https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-nottingham-link-template-03.txt > Status: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nottingham-link-template/ > Html: = https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-nottingham-link-template-03.html > Htmlized: = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-nottingham-link-template > Diff: = https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-nottingham-link-template-03 >=20 > Abstract: > This specification defines the Link-Template HTTP header field, > providing a means for describing the structure of a link between two > resources, so that new links can be generated. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > The IETF Secretariat >=20 >=20 -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ --Apple-Mail=_16B832D7-A803-4859-BA80-490B0F07B657 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = all,

I've had this = spec on the back burner for a *long* time, because I wanted to make sure = it was actually useful to someone before progressing it.

I've heard from a few = people that it would be useful for them in the real world, so I'd like = the WG to consider adoption.

Any thoughts?

Cheers,


Begin forwarded = message:

From: = internet-drafts@ietf.org
Subject: = New Version = Notification for draft-nottingham-link-template-03.txt
Date: = 1 September 2021 at 3:35:21 pm = AEST
To: = "Mark Nottingham" <mnot@mnot.net>

A new version of I-D, = draft-nottingham-link-template-03.txt
has been = successfully submitted by Mark Nottingham and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name: = draft-nottingham-link-template
Revision: 03
Title:= = The Link-Template HTTP Header Field
Document = date: = 2021-09-01
Group: Individual Submission
Pages:= = 5
URL: =            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-nottingham-link-template-= 03.txt
Status: =         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nottingham-link-template= /
Html: =           https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-nottingham-link-template-= 03.html
Htmlized: =       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-nottingham-link-tem= plate
Diff: =           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-nottingham-link-templ= ate-03

Abstract:
=   This specification defines the Link-Template HTTP header = field,
  providing a means for describing the = structure of a link between two
  resources, so = that new links can be generated.




The IETF Secretariat



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