From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Mon Mar 3 07:05:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECEA3A68C4; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:05:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.631 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.631 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.371, BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IDkGQB04R-yh; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05E6F3A69A3; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:05:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m23F5ZMd027299; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:05:37 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m23F5ZVU027296; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:05:35 -0500 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:03:38 -0500 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m23F3YON026758 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:03:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m23F3Y4B026755 for pwg-announce-out; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:03:34 -0500 To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> April 16-18, 2008 Face to Face meeting reminder MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: thrasher@lexmark.com Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:03:27 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 6.5.5|November 30, 2005) at 03/03/2008 10:03:29, Serialize complete at 03/03/2008 10:03:29 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0052860385257401_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0052860385257401_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" The agenda for the April 16-18 is now set and available at the link below. Please make your hotel arrangements and register through the ISTO ASAP. BTW, so only two people have registered for the meeting.....in a couple of weeks this becomes a HUGE problem for the PWG. Jerry Thrasher PWG Chair Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards Lexmark International Inc. Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628 Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com ----- Forwarded by Jerry Thrasher/Lex/Lexmark on 03/03/2008 09:58 AM ----- Jerry Thrasher/Lex/Lexmark 02/19/2008 10:08 AM To pwg-announce@pwg.org cc Subject April 16-18, 2008 Face to Face meeting reminder Reminder that the April 16-18, F2F meeting (IEEE P2600 meetings on April 14-15) is being held at a hotel venue and not hosted by a PWG member company. Hence those attending need to deal with registration pages, hotel block cut-off dates etc. The detailed agenda for this meeting will posted soon, but for those members that plan to attend the entire session, I encourage you to go ahead and make your hotel arrangements, registration etc. ASAP. The cut-off date for the PWG/P2600 hotel block is March 21. The following link has details on the registration, and a link to the hotel reservation page specifically set up for the PWG: http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html Jerry Thrasher Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards Lexmark International Inc. Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628 Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com --=_alternative 0052860385257401_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
The agenda for the April 16-18 is now set and available at the link below.

Please make your hotel arrangements and register through the ISTO ASAP.

BTW, so only two people have registered for the meeting.....in a couple of weeks
this becomes a HUGE problem for the PWG.


Jerry Thrasher
PWG Chair
Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards
Lexmark International Inc.
Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628
Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com
----- Forwarded by Jerry Thrasher/Lex/Lexmark on 03/03/2008 09:58 AM -----
Jerry Thrasher/Lex/Lexmark

02/19/2008 10:08 AM

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Subject
April 16-18, 2008 Face to Face meeting reminder




Reminder that the April 16-18, F2F meeting (IEEE P2600 meetings on April 14-15) is being held
at a hotel venue and not hosted by a PWG member company. Hence those attending need
to deal with registration pages, hotel block cut-off dates etc.

The detailed agenda for this meeting will posted soon, but for those members that plan to attend
the entire session, I encourage you to go ahead and make your hotel arrangements, registration
etc. ASAP.  The cut-off date for the PWG/P2600 hotel block is March 21.

The following link has details on the registration, and a link to the hotel reservation page specifically
set up for the PWG:

http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html

Jerry Thrasher
Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards
Lexmark International Inc.
Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628
Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com --=_alternative 0052860385257401_=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Mon Mar 3 07:51:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 867A83A6858; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:51:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.166 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.166 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.433, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Hmbu0dlDWQE; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ECE728C10A; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m23Fp0Tj004614; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:51:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m23Fp0gX004611; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:51:00 -0500 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:49:19 -0500 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m23FnHM3004028 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:49:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m23FnHMJ004024 for pwg-announce-out; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:49:17 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=Mp4xKADqCzhL61E90mPEUBAPBUKpUcoS7UmbR58bGcA=; b=iFRJZVkESWFNnwRDI9RkYjpOHMG83BSj7mEK/eYLvVZ6mc60EveNQWY7vtmkOrxh7zMFfZtIeO9bBcsNUXlNmSWI8RKeVRg/WTy+m3tEQjD3oj0H31Qn4/XK8tQ0miCAmpc1Z9zBls1gSDQN0kj2R06yPxdla5ojt+0kU6R6TjA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=aSVQ9mg6KnNNomp7o8TFCXu1tuAkOTXnY0EK2n6iotPa6Adcz6AIOFQU2u6xrHVgqnClvaWoZlA8g3QNqjBdSe9A9upCWIiS3/4y/qXB5KDPkIGZWHZ1RIrs+AYUd2B4oOqx9WMCD0zuQpYS+C8w5Bf4biA4rPNf3UQmM73ql/M= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 10:44:12 -0500 From: "Ira McDonald" To: "Harry Lewis" , "Ira McDonald" Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Ends Tue 18 March - Vote on Imaging State & Counter MIB v2 Cc: pwg-announce@pwg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pwg.org id m23FnG6Z004019 Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org Hi, Weekly reminder - please cast your company's vote on the Counter MIB v2. Thanks, - Ira (editor of Counter MIB) On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Harry Lewis wrote: > > PWG Formal Approval commencement for the Imaging State & Counter MIB v2 – > Voting ends Tuesday March 18, 2008 > > On Feb 21, 2008 the PWG Steering Committee approved WIMS working group Last > Call exit for the Imaging State & Counter MIB v2. At the request of the WIMS > working group Chairman, Bill Wagner – TIC, and according to my duties as > Secretary of the PWG, I hereby initiate the Formal Approval process for > advancing this work product to PWG Candidate Standard. > > Formal Approval occurs by vote of the PWG membership. The voting period will > open on Monday February 25, 2008 and close at 10PM (Pacific Time) on Tuesday > March 18, 2008. > > Valid votes are: Yes, No, No (with strong objection), Abstain. > > Any No vote requires that the voter state the reason for the No vote and a > description of the changes required for turning the No vote to a Yes. > > Representatives from PWG member companies are strongly encouraged to submit > a vote. > > To cast a vote, please send an email with the following subject line format: > > "Counter MIB v2 Formal Vote-- voter>-" > > Example: Counter MIB v2 Formal Vote-InfoPrint-lewis-yes > > No votes MUST contain a reason in the body of the email. > > Please send your vote to the following email addresses: > (Replacing "dot" with . and "at" with @): > > thrasher"at"lexmark"dot"com > wamwagner"at"comcast"dot"net > harryl"at"us"dot"ibm"dot"com > > REFERENCE MATERIAL > > Because there were no last call comments, there is no need for a LCRC > document or for a revision of the document put up for last call. The > document is at > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscountmib20-20080123.pdf. > > Associated documents that assist in understanding the primary document are: > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscountmib20-20080123.mib > - Plaintext ASN.1 MIB > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscountmib20-20080123-mib.pdf > - Color highlighted ASN.1 MIB > These MIB documents are not normative and are not in themselves to be voted > on. However, the WIMS working group would welcome any comments members would > like to make on these ancillary documents. > > Specific information on the changes from the previously approved > informational document was presented at the February Plenary, and is > available at > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/white/wims-countmib20-pwg-last-call-20080207.pdf. > > Note: > The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 2.0 > located at: > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-process20.pdf > > A list of Primary and Alternate representatives from PWG member companies > will be provided to the working group chair in case "reminder" notices are > necessary to meet the voting requirements listed in the process document. > > Harry Lewis > > PWG Secretary > > > Harry Lewis > Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Standards > Phone: 303-924-5337 > e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com > infoprint.com > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Mar 4 06:44:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0F13A68DF; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 06:44:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.411 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.411 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.590, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=1, SARE_GIF_ATTACH=1.42] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GAXW9-afjvBm; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 06:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722373A6F08; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 06:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m24EhOlZ009835; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:43:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m24EhO7f009832; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:43:24 -0500 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:41:23 -0500 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m24EfJHq009314 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:41:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m24EfJwx009311 for pwg-announce-out; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:41:19 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CZyEzZ738CUA:10 a=51RRrcYvAAAA:8 a=M-8pqlsqAAAA:8 a=vHGh4_OLkVCYkJTdW5sA:9 a=K99pZHwzP_d_00tfxJcA:7 a=UM7sbQsQI2MmEA1_EJTBuCOF1tAA:4 a=516orNCffQoA:10 a=dWlHpMHThpAA:10 a=Fvp7veO-YfEA:10 a=k2hRk6oQ7VkA:10 a=eq2vAplpWwkA:10 a=4l0bdYPz_H0A:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=gtWjicfJkoAQ7BdQgN4A:9 a=uQkVTuYhPycwnof8aoEA:7 a=mwchexkN-cmFCI5NptHvSkN9lY0A:4 a=dcp46DZ-3hIA:10 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 a=XzfvRcsXm3CLQWlxceAA:9 a=-_4TS1h0NtEL9UP_eMY4kyUOMnoA:4 a=1Vq_FK4TplAA:10 a=CxA2Utj4LuEA:10 a=J0QQm793ZazUCAUsCP0A:9 a=EqZJtLFTDleTJ1kt:18 a=b51SsU6wOJQQPAgM:18 a=s1dN97_79NHBPn_Q:18 From: "William A Wagner" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: PWG-ANNOUNCE> PWG Formal Approval commencement for the Imaging State & Counter MIB v2 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:38:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001401c87e05$7be153c0$73a3fb40$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C87DDB.930B4BC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ach1krVzF5Ca8g/jQ/uGzhGyEC2JxAIcSaag Content-Language: en-us Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C87DDB.930B4BC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0016_01C87DDB.930B4BC0" ------=_NextPart_001_0016_01C87DDB.930B4BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is just to remind PWG members that balloting for advancement of the Imaging State & Counter MIB v2 is in progress. This MIB was originally approved as a binding of the Counter Spec. It has recently been upgraded to include Imaging state information, in lieu of generating an additional MIB for MFD/MFP state reporting. It has been prototyped by Samsung, some text has been clarified, and has gone though PWG last call with no comments. If possible, please give some time to considering this specification and cast your vote. Many thanks. Bill Wagner, CoChairman, WIMS WG From: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org [mailto:owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Harry Lewis Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:14 PM To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> PWG Formal Approval commencement for the Imaging State & Counter MIB v2 PWG Formal Approval commencement for the Imaging State & Counter MIB v2 - Voting ends Tuesday March 18, 2008 On Feb 21, 2008 the PWG Steering Committee approved WIMS working group Last Call exit for the Imaging State & Counter MIB v2. At the request of the WIMS working group Chairman, Bill Wagner - TIC, and according to my duties as Secretary of the PWG, I hereby initiate the Formal Approval process for advancing this work product to PWG Candidate Standard. Formal Approval occurs by vote of the PWG membership. The voting period will open on Monday February 25, 2008 and close at 10PM (Pacific Time) on Tuesday March 18, 2008. Valid votes are: Yes, No, No (with strong objection), Abstain. Any No vote requires that the voter state the reason for the No vote and a description of the changes required for turning the No vote to a Yes. Representatives from PWG member companies are strongly encouraged to submit a vote. To cast a vote, please send an email with the following subject line format: "Counter MIB v2 Formal Vote---" Example: Counter MIB v2 Formal Vote-InfoPrint-lewis-yes No votes MUST contain a reason in the body of the email. Please send your vote to the following email addresses: (Replacing "dot" with . and "at" with @): thrasher"at"lexmark"dot"com wamwagner"at"comcast"dot"net harryl"at"us"dot"ibm"dot"com REFERENCE MATERIAL Because there were no last call comments, there is no need for a LCRC document or for a revision of the document put up for last call. The document is at ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscountmib20-20080123.pdf. Associated documents that assist in understanding the primary document are: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscountmib20-20080123.mib - Plaintext ASN.1 MIB ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscountmib20-20080123-mib.pdf - Color highlighted ASN.1 MIB These MIB documents are not normative and are not in themselves to be voted on. However, the WIMS working group would welcome any comments members would like to make on these ancillary documents. Specific information on the changes from the previously approved informational document was presented at the February Plenary, and is available at ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/white/wims-countmib20-pwg-last-call-20080207. pdf. Note: The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 2.0 located at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/process/pwg-process20.pdf A list of Primary and Alternate representatives from PWG member companies will be provided to the working group chair in case "reminder" notices are necessary to meet the voting requirements listed in the process document. Harry Lewis PWG Secretary Harry Lewis Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Standards Phone: 303-924-5337 e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com infoprint.com ------=_NextPart_001_0016_01C87DDB.930B4BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

This is just to remind PWG members that balloting for advancement of the Imaging State & Counter MIB v2 is in progress. This MIB was originally approved = as a binding of the Counter Spec. It has recently been upgraded to include = Imaging state information, in lieu of generating an additional MIB for MFD/MFP state reporting. It has been prototyped by Samsung, some text has been = clarified, and has gone though PWG last call with no comments.

 

If possible, please give some time to considering this specification and = cast your vote.

 

Many thanks.

 

Bill Wagner, CoChairman, WIMS WG

 

From:= = owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org [mailto:owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Harry Lewis
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 1:14 PM
To: pwg-announce@pwg.org
Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> PWG Formal Approval commencement for = the Imaging State & Counter MIB v2

 


PWG Formal Approval commencement for the Imaging State & Counter MIB v2 – Voting = ends Tuesday March 18, 2008

On Feb 21, 2008 the = PWG Steering Committee approved WIMS working group Last Call exit for the = Imaging State & Counter MIB v2. At the request of the WIMS working group Chairman, Bill Wagner – TIC, and according to my duties as = Secretary of the PWG, I hereby initiate the Formal Approval process for advancing = this work product to PWG Candidate Standard.

Formal Approval = occurs by vote of the PWG membership. The voting period will open on Monday = February 25, 2008 and close at 10PM (Pacific Time) on Tuesday March 18, 2008. =

Valid votes are: = Yes, No, No (with strong objection), Abstain.

Any No vote requires = that the voter state the reason for the No vote and a description of the changes required for turning the No vote to a Yes.

Representatives from = PWG member companies are strongly encouraged to submit a vote. =

To cast a vote, = please send an email with the following subject line format:

"Counter MIB v2 = Formal Vote-<company name>-<last name of voter>-<yes/no/abstain>"

Example: Counter = MIB v2 Formal Vote-InfoPrint-lewis-yes

No votes MUST = contain a reason in the body of the email.

Please send your = vote to the following email addresses:
(Replacing "dot" with . and "at" with @): =

thrasher"at"lexmark&= quot;dot"com
wamwagner"at"comcast"dot"net
harryl"at"us"dot"ibm"dot"com =

REFERENCE = MATERIAL

Because there were no last call comments, there is no need for a LCRC document = or for a revision of the document put up for last call. The document is at = ftp://ftp.pwg= .org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscountmib20-20080123.pdf. =
 =
Associated documents that assist in understanding the primary document are: =
ftp://ftp.pwg= .org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscountmib20-20080123.mib =
- = Plaintext ASN.1 MIB
ftp://ftp.pwg= .org/pub/pwg/wims/wd/wd-wimscountmib20-20080123-mib.pdf =
- = Color highlighted ASN.1 MIB
These = MIB documents are not normative and are not in themselves to be voted on. = However, the WIMS working group would welcome any comments members would like to = make on these ancillary documents.
 =
Specific information on the changes from the previously approved informational = document was presented at the February Plenary, and is available at ftp://ftp.pwg= .org/pub/pwg/wims/white/wims-countmib20-pwg-last-call-20080207.pdf= . =

Note:
The PWG Definition of the Standards Development Process Version 2.0
located at:

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/gene= ral/process/pwg-process20.pdf

A list of Primary = and Alternate representatives from PWG member companies will be provided to = the working group chair in case "reminder" notices are necessary = to meet the voting requirements listed in the process document. =

Harry Lewis =

PWG = Secretary

Harry Lewis
Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Standards
Phone: 303-924-5337
e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com
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Identify Minute Taker 2. Approval of minutes from 2/21 Conference Call 3. Review of Action Items Ira - Obtain a list of the IPP operations supported by Open Solaris Ron - Create a list of IPP Specifications indicating the v2 proposal by Mike Sweet Ira - Invite Norm Jacobs to participate Ron - Update the list of IPP Opearation to indicate the requirements per the spec 4. Continue the discussion of the proposal from Mike Sweet 5. What operations should be changed from 'optional' to 'required'? 6. Next steps From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Mar 4 16:33:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29BA3A6995 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:33:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HbHfdvpA663f for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:33:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CD128C605 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m250WgO2023402 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:32:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m250WgQk023399 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:32:42 -0500 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:31:41 -0500 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m250VbiP023066 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:31:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m250Vbxa023063 for ipp-outgoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:31:37 -0500 Received: from wbmler1.mail.xerox.com (wbmler1.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.216]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m250VYbW023053 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:31:36 -0500 Received: from wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.222]) by wbmler1.mail.xerox.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m250VW5m008406; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:31:32 -0500 Received: from wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m250VRYH012962; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:31:27 -0500 Received: from USA0300GW002.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw002.na.xerox.net [13.135.210.15]) by wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m250VQ70012952; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:31:27 -0500 X-Xerox-Source-Ip: 13.135.210.15 X-Xerox-Source-Name: usa0300gw002.na.xerox.net X-Xerox-Reported-Name: USA0300GW002.na.xerox.net Received: from usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net ([13.241.1.17]) by USA0300GW002.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:31:26 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: IPP> Teleconference call minutes [mailto: notification methods] Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:31:25 -0800 Message-ID: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B4984E@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IPP> Teleconference call minutes [mailto: notification methods] thread-index: Ach1s/+kKUPe9a2PSWiIZf1XXrLbrQIo6spA References: <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288BA6@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <47BF5401.4060909@apple.com> From: "Hastings, Tom N" To: "Ira McDonald" , "Michael R Sweet" Cc: "Whittle, Craig" , , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2008 00:31:26.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F7B82E0:01C87E58] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pwg.org id m250VbbW023061 Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Ira wrote: The lack of standards-track email notification is unfortunate, because it's the ubiquitous proprietary notification method supported by the majority of network printers. I have a .doc file for an Internet-Draft for a standard track IETF document. Does someone want to turn that into an IEEE-ISTO draft standard? Here is the start of it: Internet Printing Protocol WG Robert Herriot INTERNET-DRAFT Tom Hastings Carl-Uno Manros Updates: RFC 2911 Xerox Corp. [Target Category: standards track] Henrik Holst Expires: January 17, 2002 i-data international a/s July 17, 2001 Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): The 'mailto' Delivery Method for Event Notifications Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2000). All Rights Reserved. Status of this Memo This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance with all provisions of Section 10 of [RFC2026]. Internet-Drafts are working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also distribute working documents as Internet-Drafts. Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference material or to cite them other than as "work in progress". The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed as http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html. Abstract This document describes an extension to the Internet Printing Protocol/1.0 (IPP) [RFC2566, RFC2565] and IPP/1.1 [RFC2911, RFC2910]. This document specifies the 'mailto' Delivery Method for use with the "IPP Event Notifications and Subscriptions" specification [ipp-ntfy]. When IPP Notification [ipp-ntfy] is supported, the Delivery Method defined in this document is one of the RECOMMENDED Delivery Methods for Printers to support. For this Delivery Method, when an Event occurs, the Printer immediately sends an Event Notification via an email message to the Notification Recipient specified in the Subscription Object. The message body of the email consists of Human Consumable text that is not intended to be parsed by a machine. The Notification Recipient receives the Event Notification in the same way as it receives any other email message. Thanks, Tom -----Original Message----- From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira McDonald Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 15:52 To: Michael R Sweet; Ira McDonald Cc: Whittle, Craig; Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com; ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> Teleconference call minutes Hi Mike, Yes - notification by polling means ippget. The lack of standards-track email notification is unfortunate, because it's the ubiquitous proprietary notification method supported by the majority of network printers. Cheers, - Ira On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Michael R Sweet wrote: > Whittle, Craig wrote: > > All: > > > > The minutes from this week's teleconference call can be found at: > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/IPPv2-ConCall-Minutes-200802 > > 21.pdf > > Comments (and hopefully I'll be able to "attend" next week's telecon): > > > Need to find out what is in CUPS 1.3 and what will be in CUPS 1.4. > > CUPS 1.3: > > > http://svn.easysw.com/public/cups/branches/branch-1.3/doc/help/spec-ipp. html > > CUPS 1.4: > > http://svn.easysw.com/public/cups/trunk/doc/help/spec-ipp.html > > Right now the only difference between 1.3 and 1.4 is the addition of > a new CUPS-specific "get document" operation. > > > Notification by polling should be considered. E-mail notification > > is dead as an IPP specification. > > Presumably polling == ippget/RFC 3996? > > -- > ______________________________________________________________________ > Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System Engineer > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Mar 4 16:46:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962443A6D5C for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:46:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wTxzU1wyX5o0 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:46:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00A73A6CFD for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:46:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m250kFkQ026785 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:46:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m250kFha026782 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:46:15 -0500 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:45:19 -0500 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m250jE6f026260 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:45:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m250jE5v026257 for ipp-outgoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:45:14 -0500 Received: from wbmler1.mail.xerox.com (wbmler1.mail.xerox.com [13.13.138.216]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m250jCea026246 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:45:14 -0500 Received: from wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com (wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com [13.131.8.222]) by wbmler1.mail.xerox.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m250jB90027200; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:45:12 -0500 Received: from wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m250ixNP020370; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:44:59 -0500 Received: from USA7061GW002.na.xerox.net (usa7061gw002.na.xerox.net [13.151.210.15]) by wbmlir2.mail.xerox.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m250ixjO020365; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:44:59 -0500 X-Xerox-Source-Ip: 13.151.210.15 X-Xerox-Source-Name: usa7061gw002.na.xerox.net X-Xerox-Reported-Name: USA7061GW002.na.xerox.net Received: from usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net ([13.241.1.17]) by USA7061GW002.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:44:58 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:44:57 -0800 Message-ID: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B4984F@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update thread-index: Ach02psu8ZDurcynToehYyoqZ02ySgJfte5A References: From: "Hastings, Tom N" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2008 00:44:58.0711 (UTC) FILETIME=[23755E70:01C87E5A] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pwg.org id m250jEea026255 Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org The statement of work says: * OBJ-1 Include a reference to all IPP Standards Track documents, starting from version 1.1. * OBJ-2 All current IPP features are to be included as a requirement or an option. * OBJ-3 All features are to be classified as Mandatory, Conditionally Mandatory, or Optional. What is a "feature"? What is the level of granularity of a feature? An operation, an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? In other words, at what level of detail will the "Mandatory", "Conditionally Mandatory" or "Optional" be specified at: an operation, an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? The PWG Semantic model lists all of the operations, objects, attributes, and values (though spelled "funny"), along with the documents in which they are defined, if that is a help is compiling a profile template. Tom -----Original Message----- From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:56 To: ipp@pwg.org Subject: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update The IPPv2 Charter has been converted into a Statement of Work. Send any comments to the mail list. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-docs/wd-ippv2-statement-of-work-2008 0221.pdf (.doc) From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Mar 4 17:15:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1B428C4C1 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:15:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dkafobzvs7Oz for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E6628C5CD for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m251FPOM000823 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:15:27 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m251FPrJ000820 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:15:25 -0500 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:14:25 -0500 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2518sVO032329 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:14:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m250sQfQ028005 for ipp-outgoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:54:26 -0500 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.177]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m250rswq027919 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:53:56 -0500 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j37so1100314waf.7 for ; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:53:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=+nAyf3kddMs9nzsOsxdA2p2iryNQdziL+PSCp5ulgcs=; b=sgby4oZY/A7PfTdCo8bLM0UmpxgzxObFHjvngnLFRo7/iwgqfi2Cviv3AuexowdY9WTu25X/clImfhJwQfqtONWUW5T/FkRtAd1tZjoT37+S5T1loA99/vHH3TpAyCqR96PWfc8WnYxTre97gNVHtRDcJm1JcSJCbsWx8cgQCw0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rnV0MZFpiJ6yJQ4UIS0zuuVW6GuLHtnZzaWNAlzfNMLVNpgRY9+gPGUkJqlaYqpZv2LE7z2PMCnuI1wodUngBxpuHHM5kZoKAt6WcySo6b6QrzupJz+dNr7Pf8yhnq3qZJGpV88HbE/Yp3gyozY64qTzHhKYBjVK15idDfI5Hy0= Received: by 10.114.27.20 with SMTP id a20mr3254580waa.101.1204678046017; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:47:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.17.1 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:47:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:47:25 -0500 From: "Ira McDonald" To: "Hastings, Tom N" , "Ira McDonald" Subject: Re: IPP> Teleconference call minutes [mailto: notification methods] Cc: "Michael R Sweet" , "Whittle, Craig" , Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com, ipp@pwg.org In-Reply-To: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B4984E@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288BA6@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <47BF5401.4060909@apple.com> <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B4984E@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi Tom, That document (IPP Email Notifications) was formally abandoned after Ricoh stated that they held relevant patents and would NOT license those patents. The PWG will never take up IPP Email Notifications again. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Cheers, - Ira On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Hastings, Tom N wrote: > Ira wrote: > > The lack of standards-track email notification is unfortunate, > because it's the ubiquitous proprietary notification method > supported by the majority of network printers. > > > I have a .doc file for an Internet-Draft for a standard track IETF > document. Does someone want to turn that into an IEEE-ISTO draft > standard? > > Here is the start of it: > > Internet Printing Protocol WG Robert Herriot > INTERNET-DRAFT Tom Hastings > Carl-Uno Manros > Updates: RFC 2911 Xerox Corp. > [Target Category: standards track] Henrik Holst > Expires: January 17, 2002 i-data international a/s > July 17, 2001 > > Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): > The 'mailto' Delivery Method for Event Notifications > > Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2000). All Rights Reserved. > Status of this Memo > > This document is an Internet-Draft and is in full conformance with > all provisions of Section 10 of [RFC2026]. Internet-Drafts are > working documents of the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), its > areas, and its working groups. Note that other groups may also > distribute working documents as Internet-Drafts. > > Internet-Drafts are draft documents valid for a maximum of six months > and may be updated, replaced, or obsoleted by other documents at any > time. It is inappropriate to use Internet-Drafts as reference > material or to cite them other than as "work in progress". > > The list of current Internet-Drafts can be accessed at > http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-abstracts.txt > > The list of Internet-Draft Shadow Directories can be accessed as > http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html. > > Abstract > > This document describes an extension to the Internet Printing > Protocol/1.0 (IPP) [RFC2566, RFC2565] and IPP/1.1 [RFC2911, RFC2910]. > This document specifies the 'mailto' Delivery Method for use with the > "IPP Event Notifications and Subscriptions" specification [ipp-ntfy]. > When IPP Notification [ipp-ntfy] is supported, the Delivery Method > defined in this document is one of the RECOMMENDED Delivery Methods > for Printers to support. > > For this Delivery Method, when an Event occurs, the Printer > immediately sends an Event Notification via an email message to the > Notification Recipient specified in the Subscription Object. The > message body of the email consists of Human Consumable text that is > not intended to be parsed by a machine. The Notification Recipient > receives the Event Notification in the same way as it receives any > other email message. > > Thanks, > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira > McDonald > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 15:52 > To: Michael R Sweet; Ira McDonald > Cc: Whittle, Craig; Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com; ipp@pwg.org > Subject: Re: IPP> Teleconference call minutes > > Hi Mike, > > Yes - notification by polling means ippget. > > The lack of standards-track email notification is unfortunate, > because it's the ubiquitous proprietary notification method > supported by the majority of network printers. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Michael R Sweet > wrote: > > Whittle, Craig wrote: > > > All: > > > > > > The minutes from this week's teleconference call can be found at: > > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/IPPv2-ConCall-Minutes-200802 > > > 21.pdf > > > > Comments (and hopefully I'll be able to "attend" next week's > telecon): > > > > > Need to find out what is in CUPS 1.3 and what will be in CUPS 1.4. > > > > CUPS 1.3: > > > > > > > http://svn.easysw.com/public/cups/branches/branch-1.3/doc/help/spec-ipp. > html > > > > CUPS 1.4: > > > > http://svn.easysw.com/public/cups/trunk/doc/help/spec-ipp.html > > > > Right now the only difference between 1.3 and 1.4 is the addition of > > a new CUPS-specific "get document" operation. > > > > > Notification by polling should be considered. E-mail notification > > > is dead as an IPP specification. > > > > Presumably polling == ippget/RFC 3996? > > > > -- > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System > Engineer > > > > > > -- > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > winter: > 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 > 734-944-0094 > summer: > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 > 906-494-2434 > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Mar 4 19:45:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C021C3A6D39 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:45:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id awoNTaI803ZH for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DFE28C6D1 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:43:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m253hYMw015759 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:43:36 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m253hYwG015756 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:43:34 -0500 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:42:33 -0500 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m253gSfZ015480 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:42:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m253gSMA015477 for ipp-outgoing; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:42:28 -0500 Received: from el-out-1112.google.com (el-out-1112.google.com [209.85.162.180]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m253gQCO015469 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:42:28 -0500 Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id s27so1517509ele.1 for ; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:42:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=fg1ZBBMs4oUZPy/NJetyQ0pgWdPtLRGN6ECi0hMBPQk=; b=ukaw34luswKYEf/lxOlVtLsQHwHjdNpJw77TE1/UOMT+2Gt5vB8odvyaTn1fjwv+z0jdubyqFGx17ndp0Q3IyatQIgK8SdB3m0bJrT62F7j/ZkHyfEGlA0bNfPysk2WGUpTkJaClqBj6KUiZIgdnvQFtkIZ4dTXjKc1P2hzA+4o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GBqAgZ2PvnyOFsdXpY7t8vagVlKh1C4kt9PIcIlb5H1XfH7B8kHlIt5JkpFdVXrxJyhqxvTu+I3vN9hgbb9cQErpCyBdgnsoO1J8zLfjTL6aGitNAoOEeVsfw+FR6oOKXQr1RIzboZUAtMSN3RnA/H0uj5G7AvCOzlbg41hh+f0= Received: by 10.114.125.2 with SMTP id x2mr3446573wac.119.1204688544972; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:42:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.17.1 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:42:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 22:42:24 -0500 From: "Ira McDonald" To: "Hastings, Tom N" , "Ira McDonald" Subject: Re: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update Cc: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com, ipp@pwg.org In-Reply-To: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B4984F@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B4984F@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi Tom, My two cents - these profiles (i.e., version 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, etc.) should ONLY make whole IPP standards specs (IETF or PWG) mandatory, conditionally mandatory, or optional. Although there has been speculation that individual operations (but NOT attributes) might be raised in requirements level from their original specs, I'm opposed to doing so. The sole function of the IPP/2.x effort should be simply to encourage more widespread implementation of the many IPP extensions (a set of content much larger than the entire original IPP/1.1 protocol). And to simplify the description of such higher implementation functionality for end users. Changing specific requirements levels *within* particular IPP specs is a slippery slope that would destroy the IPP/2.x effort (and violate the PWG Process/2.0 rules). Bear in mind that the PWG Process/2.0 is much more rigorous than past PWG practice. Actual prototypes are REQUIRED before a document can even enter PWG Last Call, much less be adopted. It remains to be seen if this can be achieved for IPP/2.x. Cheers, - Ira On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Hastings, Tom N wrote: > The statement of work says: > > * OBJ-1 Include a reference to all IPP Standards Track documents, > starting from version 1.1. > * OBJ-2 All current IPP features are to be included as a requirement or > an option. > * OBJ-3 All features are to be classified as Mandatory, Conditionally > Mandatory, or Optional. > > What is a "feature"? What is the level of granularity of a feature? An > operation, an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > In other words, at what level of detail will the "Mandatory", > "Conditionally Mandatory" or "Optional" be specified at: an operation, > an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > The PWG Semantic model lists all of the operations, objects, attributes, > and values (though spelled "funny"), along with the documents in which > they are defined, if that is a help is compiling a profile template. > > Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of > Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:56 > To: ipp@pwg.org > Subject: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update > > > The IPPv2 Charter has been converted into a Statement of Work. > > Send any comments to the mail list. > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-docs/wd-ippv2-statement-of-work-2008 > 0221.pdf > (.doc) > > > > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Mar 5 10:20:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C74F28C2AB for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:20:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OQEqeSW60hLA for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A4328C305 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m25IJrFu004972 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:19:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m25IJrK9004969 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:19:53 -0500 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:18:44 -0500 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m25IIYbC004531 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:18:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m25IIYIV004528 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:18:34 -0500 Received: from wvmler3.mail.xerox.com (wvmler3.mail.xerox.com [13.8.138.218]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m25IIUeF004513 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:18:33 -0500 Received: from wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com (wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com [13.147.8.222]) by wvmler3.mail.xerox.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m25IIC31014031; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:18:18 -0800 Received: from wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m25II5wf017238; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:18:05 -0800 Received: from USA0300GW002.na.xerox.net (usa0300gw002.na.xerox.net [13.135.210.15]) by wvmlir2.mail.xerox.com (8.13.8/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m25IHQK0016707; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:18:05 -0800 X-Xerox-Source-Ip: 13.135.210.15 X-Xerox-Source-Name: usa0300gw002.na.xerox.net X-Xerox-Reported-Name: USA0300GW002.na.xerox.net Received: from usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net ([13.241.1.17]) by USA0300GW002.na.xerox.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:18:03 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update [ISSUE: need to define what a "feature" is] Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:18:02 -0800 Message-ID: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B49851@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update [ISSUE: need to define what a "feature" is] thread-index: Ach+cvmfDdBnNBGDQ7SsRWCiPH6gaQAdwdPQ References: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B4984F@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> From: "Hastings, Tom N" To: "Ira McDonald" Cc: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2008 18:18:03.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[407FDED0:01C87EED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pwg.org id m25IIXeF004526 Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Ira, The problem that I have with your view that the IPPv2 Profiles just lists IPP Standards is that most of the additional IPP standards define additional operations, attributes, and values which are all OPTIONAL to support. In other words, they are just shopping lists of operations or attributes (and attribute values). For example, here is the abstract from RFC 3998: Job and Printer Administrative Operations: This document specifies the following 16 additional OPTIONAL system administration operations for use with the Internet Printing Protocol/1.1 (IPP) [RFC2910, RFC2911], plus a few associated attributes, values, and status codes and using the IPP Printer object to manage printer fan-out and fan-in. As another example, here is the abstract from IEEE-ISTO PWG 5100.7-2003: Standard for The Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): Job Extensions Abstract: This IPP specification extends the Job semantics of the IPP Model and Semantics [rfc2911] object model. This specification defines some new Operation attributes for use in Job Creation and Document Creation operations. The Printer copies these Operation attributes to the corresponding Job Description attributes, which the clients may query. The Document Creation Operation attributes describe the Document Content and permit the Printer to reject requests that it cannot process correctly. Some corresponding "xxx-default" and "xxx-supported" Printer attributes are defined. This specification defines some Job Template attributes that apply to a multi-document Job as a whole and the "output-device" Job Template attribute that can apply to Documents and to Sheets as well as Jobs. This specification also defines some additional values for the "job-state-reasons" Job Description attribute. Each of the attributes defined in this specification are independent of each other and are OPTIONAL for a Printer to support. All of the attributes defined are OPTIONAL for a Printer to support! My recollection is that most of the extension IPP standards are like this. Thus I think it would really help if each profile listed the operations and attributes (any maybe attribute values) that are MANDATORY, CONDITIONALLY MANDATORY (with their condition), and OPTIONAL). Back to my comment on the Statement of Work: The ISSUE with the Statement of Work is to agree on what the undefined term: "feature". One interpretation (mine) is that each operation is a "feature" and each attribute is a "feature". Whether an attribute value is also a feature needs to be clarified. Without such an agreement on what the term "feature" is, I think that people will have widely differing understandings on what the IPPv2 project is about. BTW, I like the idea of the IPPv2 project NOT trying to re-write, clarify, or augment, the published standards. I'm just questioning the value of having a profile that points to set of IPP standards where each IPP standard just contains a list of operations or attributes that are all OPTIONAL. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 19:42 To: Hastings, Tom N; Ira McDonald Cc: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com; ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update Hi Tom, My two cents - these profiles (i.e., version 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, etc.) should ONLY make whole IPP standards specs (IETF or PWG) mandatory, conditionally mandatory, or optional. Although there has been speculation that individual operations (but NOT attributes) might be raised in requirements level from their original specs, I'm opposed to doing so. The sole function of the IPP/2.x effort should be simply to encourage more widespread implementation of the many IPP extensions (a set of content much larger than the entire original IPP/1.1 protocol). And to simplify the description of such higher implementation functionality for end users. Changing specific requirements levels *within* particular IPP specs is a slippery slope that would destroy the IPP/2.x effort (and violate the PWG Process/2.0 rules). Bear in mind that the PWG Process/2.0 is much more rigorous than past PWG practice. Actual prototypes are REQUIRED before a document can even enter PWG Last Call, much less be adopted. It remains to be seen if this can be achieved for IPP/2.x. Cheers, - Ira On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Hastings, Tom N wrote: > The statement of work says: > > * OBJ-1 Include a reference to all IPP Standards Track documents, > starting from version 1.1. > * OBJ-2 All current IPP features are to be included as a requirement or > an option. > * OBJ-3 All features are to be classified as Mandatory, Conditionally > Mandatory, or Optional. > > What is a "feature"? What is the level of granularity of a feature? An > operation, an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > In other words, at what level of detail will the "Mandatory", > "Conditionally Mandatory" or "Optional" be specified at: an operation, > an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > The PWG Semantic model lists all of the operations, objects, attributes, > and values (though spelled "funny"), along with the documents in which > they are defined, if that is a help is compiling a profile template. > > Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of > Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:56 > To: ipp@pwg.org > Subject: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update > > > The IPPv2 Charter has been converted into a Statement of Work. > > Send any comments to the mail list. > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-docs/wd-ippv2-statement-of-work-2008 > 0221.pdf > (.doc) > > > > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Mar 5 12:12:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB29D3A6F5E for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:12:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.258 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.258 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.341, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7jcl7-hShsXS for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:12:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B7328C8BB for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:10:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m25K6E1u001292 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:10:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m25Jganb026586 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:42:36 -0500 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:41:51 -0500 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m25JflBp026254 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:41:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m25JflXQ026251 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:41:47 -0500 Received: from njwcntas37.us.ricoh.ds (host150.ricoh-usa.com [208.252.21.150]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m25JfiFp026239 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:41:46 -0500 X-SEF-Processed: 5_0_0_816__2008_03_05_14_41_43 Received: from Unknown [172.16.19.238] by njwcntas37.us.ricoh.ds - SurfControl E-mail Filter ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:41:39 -0500 In-Reply-To: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B49851@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> Subject: RE: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update [ISSUE: need to define what a "feature" is] To: "Hastings, Tom N" Cc: "Ira McDonald" , ipp@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:41:32 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NJWC02/RCUS(Release 7.0.2FP1|January 10, 2007) at 03/05/2008 02:41:39 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi Tom, You have a good point which we need to consider. Also, note that the Notifications (RFC3995), ippget (RFC3996), and the Document Object (5100.5) do have required operations. Only the Set Operations (RFC3380) and the Admin Operations (RFC3998) list just optional operations. I don't know if we will need to dig deeper than the operations if do decide to make some of the Set and Admin operations required. The attributes and values may not need to be addressed. This will certainly be investigated in the very near future. Ron "Hastings, Tom N" To "Ira McDonald" 03/05/2008 10:18 AM cc , Subject RE: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update [ISSUE: need to define what a "feature" is] Ira, The problem that I have with your view that the IPPv2 Profiles just lists IPP Standards is that most of the additional IPP standards define additional operations, attributes, and values which are all OPTIONAL to support. In other words, they are just shopping lists of operations or attributes (and attribute values). For example, here is the abstract from RFC 3998: Job and Printer Administrative Operations: This document specifies the following 16 additional OPTIONAL system administration operations for use with the Internet Printing Protocol/1.1 (IPP) [RFC2910, RFC2911], plus a few associated attributes, values, and status codes and using the IPP Printer object to manage printer fan-out and fan-in. As another example, here is the abstract from IEEE-ISTO PWG 5100.7-2003: Standard for The Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): Job Extensions Abstract: This IPP specification extends the Job semantics of the IPP Model and Semantics [rfc2911] object model. This specification defines some new Operation attributes for use in Job Creation and Document Creation operations. The Printer copies these Operation attributes to the corresponding Job Description attributes, which the clients may query. The Document Creation Operation attributes describe the Document Content and permit the Printer to reject requests that it cannot process correctly. Some corresponding "xxx-default" and "xxx-supported" Printer attributes are defined. This specification defines some Job Template attributes that apply to a multi-document Job as a whole and the "output-device" Job Template attribute that can apply to Documents and to Sheets as well as Jobs. This specification also defines some additional values for the "job-state-reasons" Job Description attribute. Each of the attributes defined in this specification are independent of each other and are OPTIONAL for a Printer to support. All of the attributes defined are OPTIONAL for a Printer to support! My recollection is that most of the extension IPP standards are like this. Thus I think it would really help if each profile listed the operations and attributes (any maybe attribute values) that are MANDATORY, CONDITIONALLY MANDATORY (with their condition), and OPTIONAL). Back to my comment on the Statement of Work: The ISSUE with the Statement of Work is to agree on what the undefined term: "feature". One interpretation (mine) is that each operation is a "feature" and each attribute is a "feature". Whether an attribute value is also a feature needs to be clarified. Without such an agreement on what the term "feature" is, I think that people will have widely differing understandings on what the IPPv2 project is about. BTW, I like the idea of the IPPv2 project NOT trying to re-write, clarify, or augment, the published standards. I'm just questioning the value of having a profile that points to set of IPP standards where each IPP standard just contains a list of operations or attributes that are all OPTIONAL. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 19:42 To: Hastings, Tom N; Ira McDonald Cc: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com; ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update Hi Tom, My two cents - these profiles (i.e., version 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, etc.) should ONLY make whole IPP standards specs (IETF or PWG) mandatory, conditionally mandatory, or optional. Although there has been speculation that individual operations (but NOT attributes) might be raised in requirements level from their original specs, I'm opposed to doing so. The sole function of the IPP/2.x effort should be simply to encourage more widespread implementation of the many IPP extensions (a set of content much larger than the entire original IPP/1.1 protocol). And to simplify the description of such higher implementation functionality for end users. Changing specific requirements levels *within* particular IPP specs is a slippery slope that would destroy the IPP/2.x effort (and violate the PWG Process/2.0 rules). Bear in mind that the PWG Process/2.0 is much more rigorous than past PWG practice. Actual prototypes are REQUIRED before a document can even enter PWG Last Call, much less be adopted. It remains to be seen if this can be achieved for IPP/2.x. Cheers, - Ira On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Hastings, Tom N wrote: > The statement of work says: > > * OBJ-1 Include a reference to all IPP Standards Track documents, > starting from version 1.1. > * OBJ-2 All current IPP features are to be included as a requirement or > an option. > * OBJ-3 All features are to be classified as Mandatory, Conditionally > Mandatory, or Optional. > > What is a "feature"? What is the level of granularity of a feature? An > operation, an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > In other words, at what level of detail will the "Mandatory", > "Conditionally Mandatory" or "Optional" be specified at: an operation, > an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > The PWG Semantic model lists all of the operations, objects, attributes, > and values (though spelled "funny"), along with the documents in which > they are defined, if that is a help is compiling a profile template. > > Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of > Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:56 > To: ipp@pwg.org > Subject: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update > > > The IPPv2 Charter has been converted into a Statement of Work. > > Send any comments to the mail list. > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-docs/wd-ippv2-statement-of-work-2008 > 0221.pdf > (.doc) > > > > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Mar 5 12:15:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B303A6850 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:15:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nNgTsvAnVvvN for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:15:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0870E28C19A for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:14:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m25K6E2g001292 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:14:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m25JFp5s018878 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:15:51 -0500 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:15:25 -0500 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m25JFKfh018565 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:15:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m25JFKtc018561 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:15:20 -0500 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.183]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m25JFHIb018518 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:15:19 -0500 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j37so1547153waf.7 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:15:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=M5KHb2/XgncCgfuruj9ST/gLvFCRp9Ay/APMhNzqtCc=; b=osYeZXMo7yOXT8Pown1GIn2QYpbYX+PVPMv+06nsQJ5TFm2qoHRsmqbEQOqWP5OUUHcwISDWvY8+e++tne9yakRr3Gjsdvo/46e0ztqOz2rtI5fPQNCuwPUocD1mwyYGCA+PLwPOrwEdohFQR3nWuCfETMsTPoZpWEQJow3JOeE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G7x67n3eVMfWQel0W5kV1XtQsEoZdXjVfawgWtgB+zqHry+R5D5Ig5iQxrvVjzzLCLs62qjm1IcfQ4LwPZlabWjGF6JAMTf5P4cdWeRVjVE6FG7xNPf1gXYEr7X3lVw+sn9H3ACsCLhH88DIT9IPhW57y2camTfn3Lcad0jJC2E= Received: by 10.114.193.1 with SMTP id q1mr5129300waf.75.1204744515601; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.17.1 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:15:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:15:10 -0500 From: "Ira McDonald" To: "Hastings, Tom N" , "Ira McDonald" Subject: Re: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update [ISSUE: need to define what a "feature" is] Cc: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com, ipp@pwg.org In-Reply-To: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B49851@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B4984F@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B49851@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi Tom, The PWG cannot change an IETF standard, EXCEPT through the formal IETF standards process (none of us are young enough to attempt this anymore). The fact that all the operations in IPP System Admin (RFC 3998) are OPTIONAL to implement (within that spec itself) is a *defect* that the IETF would have caught if anyone was watching, but the IETF published that spec years late just to close "old business". By contrast, the IPP Document Object (PWG 5100.5) has a good solid set of REQUIRED operations defined in section 13. Most PWG IPP specs are appropriately rigorous. Revising IETF or PWG IPP specs is out of the question - no manpower. In IETF and W3C parlance, a "feature" is a set of one or more Operations and any Attributes/Values required by those Operations. Going down to the level of the complete set of Attributes is not feasible. There's still a four-year-old action to register with IANA all of the IPP Operations and Attributes/Values in PWG IPP specs - none have ever been registered! For the admittedly deficient IETF IPP extension specs, I'd would support an effort to develop on a short list of Operations (per spec) that are REQUIRED by (one of) the IPP/2.x profiles. Cheers, - Ira PS - Agreeing on *which* IPP system admin operations should be REQUIRED is very likely to be a fruitless debate, but we can try. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Hastings, Tom N wrote: > Ira, > > The problem that I have with your view that the IPPv2 Profiles just > lists IPP Standards is that most of the additional IPP standards define > additional operations, attributes, and values which are all OPTIONAL to > support. In other words, they are just shopping lists of operations or > attributes (and attribute values). > > For example, here is the abstract from RFC 3998: Job and Printer > Administrative Operations: > > This document specifies the following 16 additional OPTIONAL system > administration operations for use with the Internet Printing > Protocol/1.1 (IPP) [RFC2910, RFC2911], plus a few associated attributes, > values, and status codes and using the IPP Printer object to manage > printer fan-out and fan-in. > > As another example, here is the abstract from IEEE-ISTO PWG 5100.7-2003: > Standard for The Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): Job Extensions > > Abstract: This IPP specification extends the Job semantics of the IPP > Model and Semantics [rfc2911] object model. This specification defines > some new Operation attributes for use in Job Creation and Document > Creation operations. The Printer copies these Operation attributes to > the corresponding Job Description attributes, which the clients may > query. The Document Creation Operation attributes describe the Document > Content and permit the Printer to reject requests that it cannot process > correctly. Some corresponding "xxx-default" and "xxx-supported" Printer > attributes are defined. This specification defines some Job Template > attributes that apply to a multi-document Job as a whole and the > "output-device" Job Template attribute that can apply to Documents and > to Sheets as well as Jobs. This specification also defines some > additional values for the "job-state-reasons" Job Description attribute. > Each of the attributes defined in this specification are independent of > each other and are OPTIONAL for a Printer to support. > > All of the attributes defined are OPTIONAL for a Printer to support! > > My recollection is that most of the extension IPP standards are like > this. Thus I think it would really help if each profile listed the > operations and attributes (any maybe attribute values) that are > MANDATORY, CONDITIONALLY MANDATORY (with their condition), and > OPTIONAL). > > > Back to my comment on the Statement of Work: > > The ISSUE with the Statement of Work is to agree on what the undefined > term: "feature". One interpretation (mine) is that each operation is a > "feature" and each attribute is a "feature". Whether an attribute value > is also a feature needs to be clarified. Without such an agreement on > what the term "feature" is, I think that people will have widely > differing understandings on what the IPPv2 project is about. > > BTW, I like the idea of the IPPv2 project NOT trying to re-write, > clarify, or augment, the published standards. I'm just questioning the > value of having a profile that points to set of IPP standards where each > IPP standard just contains a list of operations or attributes that are > all OPTIONAL. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 19:42 > To: Hastings, Tom N; Ira McDonald > Cc: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com; ipp@pwg.org > Subject: Re: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update > > Hi Tom, > > My two cents - these profiles (i.e., version 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, etc.) should > ONLY > make whole IPP standards specs (IETF or PWG) mandatory, conditionally > mandatory, or optional. > > Although there has been speculation that individual operations (but NOT > attributes) might be raised in requirements level from their original > specs, > I'm opposed to doing so. > > The sole function of the IPP/2.x effort should be simply to encourage > more > widespread implementation of the many IPP extensions (a set of content > much larger than the entire original IPP/1.1 protocol). And to simplify > the > description of such higher implementation functionality for end users. > > Changing specific requirements levels *within* particular IPP specs is a > slippery slope that would destroy the IPP/2.x effort (and violate the > PWG > Process/2.0 rules). > > Bear in mind that the PWG Process/2.0 is much more rigorous than past > PWG practice. Actual prototypes are REQUIRED before a document can > even enter PWG Last Call, much less be adopted. It remains to be seen > if this can be achieved for IPP/2.x. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Hastings, Tom N > wrote: > > The statement of work says: > > > > * OBJ-1 Include a reference to all IPP Standards Track documents, > > starting from version 1.1. > > * OBJ-2 All current IPP features are to be included as a requirement > or > > an option. > > * OBJ-3 All features are to be classified as Mandatory, > Conditionally > > Mandatory, or Optional. > > > > What is a "feature"? What is the level of granularity of a feature? > An > > operation, an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > > > In other words, at what level of detail will the "Mandatory", > > "Conditionally Mandatory" or "Optional" be specified at: an > operation, > > an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > > > The PWG Semantic model lists all of the operations, objects, > attributes, > > and values (though spelled "funny"), along with the documents in > which > > they are defined, if that is a help is compiling a profile template. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of > > Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:56 > > To: ipp@pwg.org > > Subject: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update > > > > > > The IPPv2 Charter has been converted into a Statement of Work. > > > > Send any comments to the mail list. > > > > > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-docs/wd-ippv2-statement-of-work-2008 > > 0221.pdf > > (.doc) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > winter: > 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 > 734-944-0094 > summer: > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 > 906-494-2434 > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Mar 5 13:01:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA473A6B8B for ; 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Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:59:35 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update [ISSUE: need to define what a "feature" is] Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:59:34 -0800 Message-ID: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B49852@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update [ISSUE: need to define what a "feature" is] thread-index: Ach+/tWX3dR6m5/xQFajZ7NOExVmDwABIDbA References: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B4984F@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B49851@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> From: "Hastings, Tom N" To: "Ira McDonald" Cc: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2008 20:59:35.0261 (UTC) FILETIME=[D14468D0:01C87F03] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pwg.org id m25KxoNW009282 Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Ira, I agree that we should not revise any existing standard. However, I see no problem with a new standard profile that this IPPv2 project is developing saying that operation XYZ from standard mno is REQUIRED in order to conform to the profile that is being defined by the new standard, even if operation XYZ is OPTIONAL in standard mno. What's wrong with that? Tom -----Original Message----- From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira McDonald Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:15 To: Hastings, Tom N; Ira McDonald Cc: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com; ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update [ISSUE: need to define what a "feature" is] Hi Tom, The PWG cannot change an IETF standard, EXCEPT through the formal IETF standards process (none of us are young enough to attempt this anymore). The fact that all the operations in IPP System Admin (RFC 3998) are OPTIONAL to implement (within that spec itself) is a *defect* that the IETF would have caught if anyone was watching, but the IETF published that spec years late just to close "old business". By contrast, the IPP Document Object (PWG 5100.5) has a good solid set of REQUIRED operations defined in section 13. Most PWG IPP specs are appropriately rigorous. Revising IETF or PWG IPP specs is out of the question - no manpower. In IETF and W3C parlance, a "feature" is a set of one or more Operations and any Attributes/Values required by those Operations. Going down to the level of the complete set of Attributes is not feasible. There's still a four-year-old action to register with IANA all of the IPP Operations and Attributes/Values in PWG IPP specs - none have ever been registered! For the admittedly deficient IETF IPP extension specs, I'd would support an effort to develop on a short list of Operations (per spec) that are REQUIRED by (one of) the IPP/2.x profiles. Cheers, - Ira PS - Agreeing on *which* IPP system admin operations should be REQUIRED is very likely to be a fruitless debate, but we can try. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Hastings, Tom N wrote: > Ira, > > The problem that I have with your view that the IPPv2 Profiles just > lists IPP Standards is that most of the additional IPP standards define > additional operations, attributes, and values which are all OPTIONAL to > support. In other words, they are just shopping lists of operations or > attributes (and attribute values). > > For example, here is the abstract from RFC 3998: Job and Printer > Administrative Operations: > > This document specifies the following 16 additional OPTIONAL system > administration operations for use with the Internet Printing > Protocol/1.1 (IPP) [RFC2910, RFC2911], plus a few associated attributes, > values, and status codes and using the IPP Printer object to manage > printer fan-out and fan-in. > > As another example, here is the abstract from IEEE-ISTO PWG 5100.7-2003: > Standard for The Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): Job Extensions > > Abstract: This IPP specification extends the Job semantics of the IPP > Model and Semantics [rfc2911] object model. This specification defines > some new Operation attributes for use in Job Creation and Document > Creation operations. The Printer copies these Operation attributes to > the corresponding Job Description attributes, which the clients may > query. The Document Creation Operation attributes describe the Document > Content and permit the Printer to reject requests that it cannot process > correctly. Some corresponding "xxx-default" and "xxx-supported" Printer > attributes are defined. This specification defines some Job Template > attributes that apply to a multi-document Job as a whole and the > "output-device" Job Template attribute that can apply to Documents and > to Sheets as well as Jobs. This specification also defines some > additional values for the "job-state-reasons" Job Description attribute. > Each of the attributes defined in this specification are independent of > each other and are OPTIONAL for a Printer to support. > > All of the attributes defined are OPTIONAL for a Printer to support! > > My recollection is that most of the extension IPP standards are like > this. Thus I think it would really help if each profile listed the > operations and attributes (any maybe attribute values) that are > MANDATORY, CONDITIONALLY MANDATORY (with their condition), and > OPTIONAL). > > > Back to my comment on the Statement of Work: > > The ISSUE with the Statement of Work is to agree on what the undefined > term: "feature". One interpretation (mine) is that each operation is a > "feature" and each attribute is a "feature". Whether an attribute value > is also a feature needs to be clarified. Without such an agreement on > what the term "feature" is, I think that people will have widely > differing understandings on what the IPPv2 project is about. > > BTW, I like the idea of the IPPv2 project NOT trying to re-write, > clarify, or augment, the published standards. I'm just questioning the > value of having a profile that points to set of IPP standards where each > IPP standard just contains a list of operations or attributes that are > all OPTIONAL. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 19:42 > To: Hastings, Tom N; Ira McDonald > Cc: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com; ipp@pwg.org > Subject: Re: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update > > Hi Tom, > > My two cents - these profiles (i.e., version 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, etc.) should > ONLY > make whole IPP standards specs (IETF or PWG) mandatory, conditionally > mandatory, or optional. > > Although there has been speculation that individual operations (but NOT > attributes) might be raised in requirements level from their original > specs, > I'm opposed to doing so. > > The sole function of the IPP/2.x effort should be simply to encourage > more > widespread implementation of the many IPP extensions (a set of content > much larger than the entire original IPP/1.1 protocol). And to simplify > the > description of such higher implementation functionality for end users. > > Changing specific requirements levels *within* particular IPP specs is a > slippery slope that would destroy the IPP/2.x effort (and violate the > PWG > Process/2.0 rules). > > Bear in mind that the PWG Process/2.0 is much more rigorous than past > PWG practice. Actual prototypes are REQUIRED before a document can > even enter PWG Last Call, much less be adopted. It remains to be seen > if this can be achieved for IPP/2.x. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Hastings, Tom N > wrote: > > The statement of work says: > > > > * OBJ-1 Include a reference to all IPP Standards Track documents, > > starting from version 1.1. > > * OBJ-2 All current IPP features are to be included as a requirement > or > > an option. > > * OBJ-3 All features are to be classified as Mandatory, > Conditionally > > Mandatory, or Optional. > > > > What is a "feature"? What is the level of granularity of a feature? > An > > operation, an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > > > In other words, at what level of detail will the "Mandatory", > > "Conditionally Mandatory" or "Optional" be specified at: an > operation, > > an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > > > The PWG Semantic model lists all of the operations, objects, > attributes, > > and values (though spelled "funny"), along with the documents in > which > > they are defined, if that is a help is compiling a profile template. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of > > Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:56 > > To: ipp@pwg.org > > Subject: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update > > > > > > The IPPv2 Charter has been converted into a Statement of Work. > > > > Send any comments to the mail list. > > > > > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-docs/wd-ippv2-statement-of-work-2008 > > 0221.pdf > > (.doc) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > winter: > 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 > 734-944-0094 > summer: > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 > 906-494-2434 > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Mar 5 16:44:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3EE28C285 for ; 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Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:42:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m260gH7j003238 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:42:17 -0500 Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.230]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m260gE0a003230 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:42:16 -0500 Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id e11so1579799qba.1 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:42:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Q3Xrg3hCg4cvW0pB3cF/iy7meDWs9A9t/jojzXnlHo4=; b=vKeS0DE//jLtBzhkLSQbph2IQ25+KOiX5SZWnfRWl1bh33k8Sdys3Z2ndypVXnSfpuYIriC3E49IK9/B2Vi92fYpspAh6/XTBs5kE1DDkWpG4FoUydJ2ZMi0sEuzSHfEXnQcwcsmWwyjRdkdsR+p+/wQdM2eeZjmDZua4IlCbdg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eEXibMXgmjN+QYABllGj9UTUZKSvUWnBFAleeN28hUjBEGOhzr6Nvj1COz1Yfko0h8ipXuCdEe6xzFw1RWEV/azcjMQyffH5vKWArAc8dLlHXdAVixYVBadozYteSvYrg6SStVM3YDO9GGk3um6qu53f++SXTIJuyThlwgwCALk= Received: by 10.114.125.2 with SMTP id x2mr5670513wac.119.1204764133374; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:42:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.17.1 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:42:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:42:13 -0500 From: "Ira McDonald" To: "Hastings, Tom N" , "Ira McDonald" Subject: Re: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update [ISSUE: need to define what a "feature" is] Cc: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com, ipp@pwg.org In-Reply-To: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B49852@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B4984F@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B49851@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> <559BCC0E42F1AA409F7603081DDB2C34B49852@usaesm1mf01.na.xerox.net> Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi Tom, I agree with you that we can raise OPTIONAL operations (from source standards) to REQUIRED in an IPP/2.x profile. I hoped to avoid this, but it seems necessary - or system admin, in particular, is meaningless. Now to see if many IPP implementations all chose the same operations (ah, I see a pig flying...). Cheers, - Ira On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Hastings, Tom N wrote: > Ira, > > I agree that we should not revise any existing standard. However, I see > no problem with a new standard profile that this IPPv2 project is > developing saying that operation XYZ from standard mno is REQUIRED in > order to conform to the profile that is being defined by the new > standard, even if operation XYZ is OPTIONAL in standard mno. > > What's wrong with that? > > Tom > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Ira > McDonald > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:15 > To: Hastings, Tom N; Ira McDonald > Cc: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com; ipp@pwg.org > > Subject: Re: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update [ISSUE: need to define > what a "feature" is] > > > > Hi Tom, > > The PWG cannot change an IETF standard, EXCEPT through the formal > IETF standards process (none of us are young enough to attempt this > anymore). > > The fact that all the operations in IPP System Admin (RFC 3998) are > OPTIONAL to implement (within that spec itself) is a *defect* that the > IETF would have caught if anyone was watching, but the IETF published > that spec years late just to close "old business". > > By contrast, the IPP Document Object (PWG 5100.5) has a good solid > set of REQUIRED operations defined in section 13. Most PWG IPP specs > are appropriately rigorous. > > Revising IETF or PWG IPP specs is out of the question - no manpower. > > In IETF and W3C parlance, a "feature" is a set of one or more Operations > and any Attributes/Values required by those Operations. > > Going down to the level of the complete set of Attributes is not > feasible. > > There's still a four-year-old action to register with IANA all of the > IPP > Operations and Attributes/Values in PWG IPP specs - none have ever > been registered! > > For the admittedly deficient IETF IPP extension specs, I'd would support > an effort to develop on a short list of Operations (per spec) that are > REQUIRED by (one of) the IPP/2.x profiles. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > PS - Agreeing on *which* IPP system admin operations should be > REQUIRED is very likely to be a fruitless debate, but we can try. > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Hastings, Tom N > wrote: > > Ira, > > > > The problem that I have with your view that the IPPv2 Profiles just > > lists IPP Standards is that most of the additional IPP standards > define > > additional operations, attributes, and values which are all OPTIONAL > to > > support. In other words, they are just shopping lists of operations > or > > attributes (and attribute values). > > > > For example, here is the abstract from RFC 3998: Job and Printer > > Administrative Operations: > > > > This document specifies the following 16 additional OPTIONAL system > > administration operations for use with the Internet Printing > > Protocol/1.1 (IPP) [RFC2910, RFC2911], plus a few associated > attributes, > > values, and status codes and using the IPP Printer object to manage > > printer fan-out and fan-in. > > > > As another example, here is the abstract from IEEE-ISTO PWG > 5100.7-2003: > > Standard for The Internet Printing Protocol (IPP): Job Extensions > > > > Abstract: This IPP specification extends the Job semantics of the IPP > > Model and Semantics [rfc2911] object model. This specification > defines > > some new Operation attributes for use in Job Creation and Document > > Creation operations. The Printer copies these Operation attributes > to > > the corresponding Job Description attributes, which the clients may > > query. The Document Creation Operation attributes describe the > Document > > Content and permit the Printer to reject requests that it cannot > process > > correctly. Some corresponding "xxx-default" and "xxx-supported" > Printer > > attributes are defined. This specification defines some Job Template > > attributes that apply to a multi-document Job as a whole and the > > "output-device" Job Template attribute that can apply to Documents > and > > to Sheets as well as Jobs. This specification also defines some > > additional values for the "job-state-reasons" Job Description > attribute. > > Each of the attributes defined in this specification are independent > of > > each other and are OPTIONAL for a Printer to support. > > > > All of the attributes defined are OPTIONAL for a Printer to support! > > > > My recollection is that most of the extension IPP standards are like > > this. Thus I think it would really help if each profile listed the > > operations and attributes (any maybe attribute values) that are > > MANDATORY, CONDITIONALLY MANDATORY (with their condition), and > > OPTIONAL). > > > > > > Back to my comment on the Statement of Work: > > > > The ISSUE with the Statement of Work is to agree on what the > undefined > > term: "feature". One interpretation (mine) is that each operation is > a > > "feature" and each attribute is a "feature". Whether an attribute > value > > is also a feature needs to be clarified. Without such an agreement > on > > what the term "feature" is, I think that people will have widely > > differing understandings on what the IPPv2 project is about. > > > > BTW, I like the idea of the IPPv2 project NOT trying to re-write, > > clarify, or augment, the published standards. I'm just questioning > the > > value of having a profile that points to set of IPP standards where > each > > IPP standard just contains a list of operations or attributes that > are > > all OPTIONAL. > > > > Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ira McDonald [mailto:blueroofmusic@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 19:42 > > To: Hastings, Tom N; Ira McDonald > > Cc: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com; ipp@pwg.org > > Subject: Re: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > My two cents - these profiles (i.e., version 2.0, 2.1, 2.2, etc.) > should > > ONLY > > make whole IPP standards specs (IETF or PWG) mandatory, conditionally > > mandatory, or optional. > > > > Although there has been speculation that individual operations (but > NOT > > attributes) might be raised in requirements level from their original > > specs, > > I'm opposed to doing so. > > > > The sole function of the IPP/2.x effort should be simply to encourage > > more > > widespread implementation of the many IPP extensions (a set of > content > > much larger than the entire original IPP/1.1 protocol). And to > simplify > > the > > description of such higher implementation functionality for end > users. > > > > Changing specific requirements levels *within* particular IPP specs > is a > > slippery slope that would destroy the IPP/2.x effort (and violate the > > PWG > > Process/2.0 rules). > > > > Bear in mind that the PWG Process/2.0 is much more rigorous than past > > PWG practice. Actual prototypes are REQUIRED before a document can > > even enter PWG Last Call, much less be adopted. It remains to be > seen > > if this can be achieved for IPP/2.x. > > > > Cheers, > > - Ira > > > > On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Hastings, Tom N > > > wrote: > > > The statement of work says: > > > > > > * OBJ-1 Include a reference to all IPP Standards Track documents, > > > starting from version 1.1. > > > * OBJ-2 All current IPP features are to be included as a > requirement > > or > > > an option. > > > * OBJ-3 All features are to be classified as Mandatory, > > Conditionally > > > Mandatory, or Optional. > > > > > > What is a "feature"? What is the level of granularity of a > feature? > > An > > > operation, an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > > > > > In other words, at what level of detail will the "Mandatory", > > > "Conditionally Mandatory" or "Optional" be specified at: an > > operation, > > > an object, an attribute, or an attribute value? > > > > > > The PWG Semantic model lists all of the operations, objects, > > attributes, > > > and values (though spelled "funny"), along with the documents in > > which > > > they are defined, if that is a help is compiling a profile > template. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of > > > Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 09:56 > > > To: ipp@pwg.org > > > Subject: IPP> IPPv2 Statement Of Work Update > > > > > > > > > The IPPv2 Charter has been converted into a Statement of Work. > > > > > > Send any comments to the mail list. > > > > > > > > > > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-docs/wd-ippv2-statement-of-work-2008 > > > 0221.pdf > > > (.doc) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > > email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > > winter: > > 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 > > 734-944-0094 > > summer: > > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 > > 906-494-2434 > > > > > > -- > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > winter: > 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 > 734-944-0094 > summer: > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 > 906-494-2434 > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Thu Mar 6 12:24:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2319328C94C; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:24:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.244 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.244 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.317, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_16=1.526, HTML_MESSAGE=1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rl019MAvSCCi; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3838B28C998; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:24:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m26KOaBI017842; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:24:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m26KOZmq017839; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:24:35 -0500 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:22:38 -0500 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m26KMYYZ017361 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:22:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m26KMYJ1017358 for pwg-announce-out; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:22:34 -0500 To: pwg-announce@pwg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> PLEASE VOTE - PWG Imaging State and Counter MIB v2 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF277 June 21, 2006 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:17:37 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0.2FP2HF300 | September 14, 2007) at 03/06/2008 13:22:29, Serialize complete at 03/06/2008 13:22:29 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="=_related 0069F29C87257404_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_related 0069F29C87257404_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0069F29C87257404_=" --=_alternative 0069F29C87257404_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" There remains a little over 1 week until voting closes on Formal Approval for the PWG Imaging State and Counter MIBv2. To cast a vote, please send an email with the following subject line format: "Counter MIB v2 Formal Vote---" Example: Counter MIB v2 Formal Vote-InfoPrint-lewis-yes As a reminder, here is a link to the Feb 22 announcement commencing Formal Approval. http://www.pwg.org/hypermail/pwg-announce/1500.html YOUR VOTE IS NEEDED!! Regards, Harry Harry Lewis Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Standards Phone: 303-924-5337 e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com infoprint.com --=_alternative 0069F29C87257404_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
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--=_alternative 0069F29C87257404_=-- --=_related 0069F29C87257404_= Content-Type: image/gif Content-ID: <_1_0746FFC00746FBD80069F29C87257404> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 R0lGODlhWgAaALMAAPnJypu06PFvdGOK3MHQ8PWrrfOJjO9JT7m5ufbn5XGT3lR+2OwcJAAAAP// /wAAACH5BAAAAAAALAAAAABaABoAAAT/0MlJq704a9m210AoAl8iJpUZot/VVYFCOLFi27NUB9PO /EBgQSL4HSaGQ5BxICWUwcNQAiRRf5YXRbGYBRbgcFfCXSgmZQXwYDAUf6T30fFmCO6HYwF4rwuu DFYOQFkWXF4LPDpmZAsDCxOOZoQTbwZ0Rg57cCwsQAYoCZuBg3ATlBRaaGNfig4EjA5ch69mk1gO olWYTA5QlxWjLLm/CWt5UAyFFbRfCgHQjzlcrTSJtwwGS8Byvj/AFKMV3UtLy1usYmHTXYwKA7Bq WNpMgt1QfxUAQMPe2aXZCghENUFVI0QyCBD4AklWFy4OzMSjRI/BlG4Vp0hI8ORHPk27+3YBOrcK kSuHMw61SjQRl4OMvI4kqMNGgBJdRtwIySUSIMmD1lwlkIYyXpeWyjZWBNAtV4FkHgGYqGNEY0+C HAylG3ADzBmUEcHU+tqCAscV/Tiq6Fc2K7N06sjSmjW2rd27P/Hq3cvXbd+/gAMLHky4sOHDiBMr Xsy4sEEEqhpIRpCqghbIBjP71YA5cIfJDjpApvzis+jQDRB0Dj1hNOvPnSm7Bg3Z7+zUqVFTDk06 t+nXvD+j9p1V+GXixoEDT66l+fLnpJ9Llq7cLXPL1IVnt15we+nko6/Prgz9u2zirmuLRs5bQmz2 pkmrZx06R2PFBl3cZ5wfu4MIADs= --=_related 0069F29C87257404_=-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Mar 10 08:54:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B364328C324 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:54:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vX1xNdAqDmyw for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A21A28C85D for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2AFTgCf006130 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:29:44 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2AFTgOF006127 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:29:42 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:28:35 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2AFSPZT005838 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:28:27 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2AFSP0O005835 for ipp-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:28:25 -0400 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2AFSMKo005827 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:28:25 -0400 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j37so1899230waf.7 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:28:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=7r2TFq8BqsPNkl3ot9ulVET1FHtTQUuPiQAWltjDcFc=; b=i2GizTBgNKH0AfgwwpkuAGi5DvF28lODVtoVNJEjB1KBngERM8NYaUKyoTKb7i4XQK0MwQ9KNvFnRfDWxXEbazNfigDoUW1yr3YcOl1yCQuWFODrHDJlOoJC2g8zTmQbsx83Jj+uKPJC5nCkpe9ruVsSHBzYbuG+iacjCc4s4oM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ee5Yk+vb0A1Whm/meB32smPZVx8UlfuE7s+i2VC1d3alHPsc/bcBeOBoUZ+6wyUPW48z6V3PcLNVHrQCaNzkEcxG6UfShwTax7BXjsPFLOBdofNXeM4m2+gldqHjAuZmsgSxJKSdreqIuMmjSqcdUMEHEtf8uh3Gpxk7FhY6fG8= Received: by 10.114.174.2 with SMTP id w2mr5853763wae.17.1205162902108; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.17.1 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:28:22 -0400 From: "Ira McDonald" To: "Norm Jacobs" , ipp@pwg.org, "Ira McDonald" Subject: IPP> IPP operations implemented in mod_ipp on Solaris In-Reply-To: <47D4E498.7060408@Sun.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47D4E498.7060408@Sun.COM> Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi, Thanks to Norm Jacobs (Sun Open Solaris Printing Team) for the following list of operations supported by the Open Solaris IPP Server. Cheers, - Ira On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:34 AM, Norm Jacobs wrote: > Buried somewhere in the docs is the list of IPP operations implemented > on Solaris under the mod_ipp Apache module. I expect that if you tried > to search docs.sun.com, you might find it. That being said, the > implementation > of the IPP server side support is available in source from > src.opensolaris.org. In ipp-listener.c, there is a dispatch table that > maps IPP operations, name, function, and "grouping". a function pointer > of NULL means not implemented. > http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/lib/print/libipp-listener/common/ipp-listener.c#103 > > The contents are as follows: > > /* Printer Operations */ > { 0x0002, "print-job", ipp_print_job, OP_REQUIRED }, > { 0x0003, "print-uri", NULL, OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x0004, "validate-job", ipp_validate_job, > OP_REQUIRED }, > { 0x0005, "create-job", ipp_create_job, OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x000a, "get-jobs", ipp_get_jobs, OP_REQUIRED }, > { 0x000b, "get-printer-attributes", ipp_get_printer_attributes, > OP_REQUIRED }, > { 0x0010, "pause-printer", ipp_pause_printer, > OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x0011, "resume-printer", ipp_resume_printer, > OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x0012, "purge-jobs", ipp_purge_jobs, OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x0013, "set-printer-attributes", ipp_set_printer_attributes, > OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x0014, "set-job-attributes", ipp_set_job_attributes, > OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x0022, "enable-printer", ipp_enable_printer, > OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x0023, "disable-printer", ipp_disable_printer, > OP_OPTIONAL }, > /* Job Operations */ > { 0x0006, "send-document", ipp_send_document, > OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x0007, "send-uri", NULL, OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x0008, "cancel-job", ipp_cancel_job, OP_REQUIRED }, > { 0x0009, "get-job-attributes", ipp_get_job_attributes, > OP_REQUIRED }, > { 0x000c, "hold-job", ipp_hold_job, OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x000d, "release-job", ipp_release_job, > OP_OPTIONAL }, > { 0x000e, "restart-job", ipp_restart_job, > OP_OPTIONAL }, > /* Other Operations */ > { 0x4001, "cups-get-default", cups_get_default, > OP_VENDOR }, > { 0x4002, "cups-get-printers", cups_get_printers, > OP_VENDOR }, > { 0x4005, "cups-get-classes", cups_get_classes, > OP_VENDOR }, > { 0x4008, "cups-accept-jobs", cups_accept_jobs, > OP_VENDOR }, > { 0x4009, "cups-reject-jobs", cups_reject_jobs, > OP_VENDOR }, > { 0x400D, "cups-move-job", cups_move_job, OP_VENDOR }, > { 0, NULL, NULL, OP_VENDOR } > > > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Mar 10 09:51:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDC83A6E94 for ; 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Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:34:45 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2AGYhsX016763 for ipp-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:34:43 -0400 Received: from njwcntas37.us.ricoh.ds (host150.ricoh-usa.com [208.252.21.150]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2AGYemX016750 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:34:42 -0400 X-SEF-Processed: 5_0_0_816__2008_03_10_12_34_40 Received: from Unknown [172.16.19.238] by njwcntas37.us.ricoh.ds - SurfControl E-mail Filter ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:34:40 -0400 Subject: IPP> IPPV2 Conference Call Minutes 20080306 To: IPP@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:34:34 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NJWC02/RCUS(Release 7.0.2FP1|January 10, 2007) at 03/10/2008 12:34:40 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org The minutes can be found at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/IPPv2-ConCall-Minutes-20080306.pdf (.doc) From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Mar 10 10:08:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD3C3A6EC7 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:08:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9jWsxHiGqZFW for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87AF28C4BE for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2AH0SKZ023514 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:00:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2AH0Sjf023511 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:00:28 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:59:31 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2AGxRl0023191 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:59:29 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2AGxRuH023188 for ipp-outgoing; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:59:27 -0400 Received: from lucius.provo.novell.com (lucius.provo.novell.com [137.65.248.127]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2AGxKxb023173 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:59:26 -0400 Received: from INET-PRV1-MTA by lucius.provo.novell.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:59:20 -0600 Message-Id: <47D514FD.196D.00A2.0@novell.com> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.3 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:59:03 -0600 From: "Ted Tronson" To: , Subject: Re: IPP> IPPV2 Conference Call Minutes 20080306 References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=__Part5573CAC7.0__=" Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=__Part5573CAC7.0__= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, I could not make the meeting again. Here is the list of supported = operations in Novell iPrint: =20 0x0002 print-job 0x0008 cancel-job 0x0009 get-job-attributes 0x000A get-jobs 0x000B get-printer-attributes 0x000C hold-job 0x000D release-job 0x000E restart-job 0x0010 pause-printer 0x0011 resume-printer 0x0012 purge-jobs =20 0x0021 get-client-print-support-files (driver download spec from Ted and = Hugo) =20 Novell operations 0x401A novell-list-printers 0x401B novell-list-drivers 0x401C novell-mgmt-interface 0x401D novell-resource-add 0x401E novell-resource-list 0x401F novell-resource-delete 0x4020 novell-resource-download 0x4021 novell-get-driver-profile (similar to 0x0021 spec for downloading = driver) 0x4022 0x4023 0x4024 0x4025 =20 For job notifications we poll the server (doing a get-job-attributes) =20 =20 Ted Tronson Sr. Software Engineer iPrint Engineering ttronson@novell.com=20 801-861-333 >>> 3/10/2008 10:34 AM >>> The minutes can be found at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/IPPv2-ConCall-Minutes-20080306.= pdf=20 (.doc) --=__Part5573CAC7.0__= Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry, I could not make the meeting again.  Here is the list of = supported operations in Novell iPrint:
 
0x0002 print-job
0x0008 cancel-job
0x0009 get-job-attributes
0x000A get-jobs
0x000B get-printer-attributes
0x000C hold-job
0x000D release-job
0x000E restart-job
0x0010 pause-printer
0x0011 resume-printer
0x0012 purge-jobs
 
0x0021 get-client-print-support-files   (driver download = spec from Ted and Hugo)
 
Novell operations
0x401A novell-list-printers
0x401B novell-list-drivers
0x401C novell-mgmt-interface
0x401D novell-resource-add
0x401E novell-resource-list
0x401F novell-resource-delete
0x4020 novell-resource-download
0x4021 novell-get-driver-profile (similar to 0x0021 spec for = downloading driver)
0x4022
0x4023
0x4024
0x4025
 
For job notifications we poll the server (doing a get-job-attributes)<= /DIV>
 
 
Ted Tronson
Sr. Software Engineer
iPrint Engineering
ttronson= @novell.com
801-861-333


>>> <Ron.Bergman@ricoh-= usa.com> 3/10/2008 10:34 AM >>>

The minutes can be = found at:

ftp://ftp.= pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/IPPv2-ConCall-Minutes-20080306.pdf    (.doc)


--=__Part5573CAC7.0__=-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Mon Mar 17 09:24:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C503A6C1A; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:24:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kJvS7G1JPsgX; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3433A6B9C; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2HGAl9T001946; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:22:17 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2HEj6ii017128; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:45:06 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:44:04 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2HEhx01016622 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:44:01 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2HEhxld016619 for pwg-announce-out; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:43:59 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xDDF3Kts6TQA:10 a=RDVkIgxKtvS5Q3Z4H+f/1A==:17 a=51RRrcYvAAAA:8 a=AhZ9i0hGuAcsokX4H10A:9 a=eVEoDFloSo7rchkJCkQA:7 a=-LkudkACs0prv-EXrS6WrBwjHYoA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 a=lfS3Pc3lgfTdtaoXdtEA:9 a=A7b0rqfY2rnP-BoiKVkA:7 a=rX3fhWN3A3J95UN4vNwfNkMXfQUA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 From: wamwagner@comcast.net To: pwg-announce@pwg.org (PWG announce) Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> PLEASE VOTE - PWG Imaging State and Counter MIB v2 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:43:49 +0000 Message-Id: <031720081443.11864.47DE83A5000775D800002E5822070215739D0A02090E99030E99@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: d2Ftd2FnbmVyQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_11864_1205765029_0" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_11864_1205765029_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just a reminder for those company representatives that have not yet cast their ballot. Voting on the Imaging State and Counter MIB V2 for Candidate standard level (the highest level of any current PWG standard) nominally ends tomorrow. Note that this MIB both advances the Counter MIB, based on the prototyping effort by Samsung, and includes state reporting elements deemed desirable, particularly for MFDs. It is important that PWG standards reflect the intent of the majority of the membership. So please vote, regardless of whether your preference is yes, no or abstain. To cast a vote, please send an email with the following subject line format: "Counter MIB v2 Formal Vote---" Example: Counter MIB v2 Formal Vote-InfoPrint-lewis-yes As a reminder, here is a link to the Feb 22 announcement commencing Formal Approval. http://www.pwg.org/hypermail/pwg-announce/1500.html Many thanks, Bill Wagner, CoChairman PWG WIMS WG. --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_11864_1205765029_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Just a reminder for those company representatives that have not yet cast their ballot.  Voting on the Imaging State and Counter MIB V2 for Candidate standard level (the highest level of any current PWG standard) nominally ends  tomorrow. Note that this MIB both advances the Counter MIB, based on the prototyping effort by Samsung, and includes state reporting elements deemed  desirable, particularly for MFDs.
 
It is important that PWG standards reflect the intent of the majority of the membership. So please  vote,  regardless of whether your preference is yes, no or abstain.
 
To cast a vote, please send an email with the following subject line format:

"Counter MIB v2 Formal Vote-<company name>-<last name of voter>-<yes/no/abstain>"

Example: Counter MIB v2 Formal Vote-InfoPrint-lewis-yes

As a reminder, here is a link to the Feb 22 announcement commencing Formal Approval.
http://www.pwg.org/hypermail/pwg-announce/1500.html

Many thanks,
 
Bill Wagner, CoChairman PWG WIMS WG.
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_11864_1205765029_0-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Mon Mar 17 11:19:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8C63A6E5B; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:19:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OMBRMmiiZ-0g; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947AC3A6DB0; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2HIAlbO024063; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:17:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2HHveSO021669; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:57:40 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:56:09 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2HHu6Rg021127 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:56:08 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2HHu67Y021124 for pwg-announce-out; Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:56:06 -0400 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> URGENT!!!!! April 16-18, 2008 Face to Face meeting reminder To: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: thrasher@lexmark.com Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:52:28 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 6.5.5|November 30, 2005) at 03/17/2008 13:53:45 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org Thanks to those (few) who've already made hotel reservations and registered with the ISTO for the upcoming PWG F2F meeting, However, we still have not come close to receiving reservations from even half of the "normal" PWG F2F meeting attendees. The PWG will be subject to a rather large financial penalty from the hotel attendance stays at the current level. Please make your hotel and meeting reservations this week. Jerry Thrasher PWG Chair. ----- Forwarded by Jerry Thrasher/Lex/Lexmark on 03/03/2008 09:58 AM ----- Jerry Thrasher/Lex/Lexm ark To pwg-announce@pwg.org 02/19/2008 10:08 cc AM Subject April 16-18, 2008 Face to Face meeting reminder Reminder that the April 16-18, F2F meeting (IEEE P2600 meetings on April 14-15) is being held at a hotel venue and not hosted by a PWG member company. Hence those attending need to deal with registration pages, hotel block cut-off dates etc. The detailed agenda for this meeting will posted soon, but for those members that plan to attend the entire session, I encourage you to go ahead and make your hotel arrangements, registration etc. ASAP. The cut-off date for the PWG/P2600 hotel block is March 21. The following link has details on the registration, and a link to the hotel reservation page specifically set up for the PWG: http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/April_2008_Phoenix.html Jerry Thrasher Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards Lexmark International Inc. Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628 Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Mar 18 10:12:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B5323A683E; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:12:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bDRY7scAJOyJ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3B33A69B2; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2IHAH00010791; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:10:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2IHAHDZ010788; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:10:17 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:08:25 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2IH8KK5010256 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:08:22 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2IH8Kd7010253 for pwg-announce-out; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:08:20 -0400 Message-ID: <2F7D63A21DB2C74EB8EB8C09AF667DB0152D335C@eitc220.eitc.epson.com> From: "Petrie, Glen" To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Will there be dial/call in for the April F2F Meeting? Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 10:08:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8891A.A2696FE8" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8891A.A2696FE8 Content-Type: text/plain Will there be dial/call in for the April F2F Meeting at Mesa Az? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8891A.A2696FE8 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Will there be dial/call  in for the April F2F = Meeting at Mesa Az?

------_=_NextPart_001_01C8891A.A2696FE8-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Tue Mar 18 14:01:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F29628C5EC; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:01:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rX4yT4xTi0vm; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD38B28C5A1; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2IKxFfd016676; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:59:17 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2IKxF2f016673; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:59:15 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:57:21 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2IKvJqp016110 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:57:21 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2IKvJIm016107 for pwg-announce-out; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:57:19 -0400 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> April 14,15 P2600 meetings with the PWG, April 16-18, 2008 (hotel link problem) To: stds-2600@ieee.org, pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: thrasher@lexmark.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:47:32 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 6.5.5|November 30, 2005) at 03/18/2008 16:55:07 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org FYI, There appears to be a problem with the web reservation system at the hotel for the April F2F meetings. The hotel is working on this but until this is fixed...... The web link for the hotel contains both direct and toll free telephone numbers that you can use. http://cwp.marriott.com/phxme/ieeeisto/ Ask for the ISTO, or IEEE, or PWG group rate. Jerry Thrasher Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards Lexmark International Inc. Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628 Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Mar 18 17:32:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB913A63EC for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:32:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DeBF1VmG1-H5 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDA03A6951 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2J0U5oi018956 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:30:07 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2J0U5jY018953 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:30:05 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:29:04 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2J0St7F018672 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:28:57 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2J0StYP018669 for ipp-outgoing; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:28:55 -0400 Received: from njwcntas37.us.ricoh.ds (host150.ricoh-usa.com [208.252.21.150]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2J0SrdN018663 for ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:28:55 -0400 X-SEF-Processed: 5_0_0_816__2008_03_18_20_13_20 Received: from Unknown [172.16.19.238] by njwcntas37.us.ricoh.ds - SurfControl E-mail Filter ; Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:11:42 -0400 Subject: IPP> Reminder, Next IPPv2 Teleconference on Thurs (March 20) at 11:00 AM EDT To: IPP@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:11:37 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NJWC02/RCUS(Release 7.0.2FP1|January 10, 2007) at 03/18/2008 08:11:42 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org IPPv2 WG Conference Call: Thursday, March 20, 2008, 11:00 AM EDT (8:00 AM PDT) Toll Free: 1-866-365-4406 International: 00+1+303-248-9655 Passcode: 2635888# Agenda: 1. Identify Minute Taker 2. Approval of minutes from 3/6 Conference Call 3. Review of Action Items Ira - Obtain a list of the IPP operations supported by Open Solaris - Completed Ron - Generate a spread sheet similar to the one used in the WIMS/CIM work, to collect inputs from the group as to which operations should be made required. 5. Glen Petrie's Summary Of IPP Operations Supported document. 6. Next steps From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Mar 19 09:25:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D737428C1D4; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:25:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.949 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.949 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tgbDpc-1Y6+Z; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E4003A6D11; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2JGNTa5000808; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:23:31 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2JGNTRI000805; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:23:29 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:21:38 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2JGLXt4032658 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:21:35 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2JGLXTq032655 for pwg-announce-out; Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:21:33 -0400 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Fw: April 14,15 P2600 meetings with the PWG, April 16-18, 2008 (hotel link problem) To: stds-2600@ieee.org, pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: thrasher@lexmark.com Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:19:58 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 6.5.5|November 30, 2005) at 03/19/2008 12:21:14 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org The problem with the registration link, (and the group code for call-ins) should now be fixed. Jerry Thrasher Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards Lexmark International Inc. Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628 Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com ----- Forwarded by Jerry Thrasher/Lex/Lexmark on 03/19/2008 12:19 PM ----- Jerry Thrasher/Lex/Lexm ark To stds-2600@ieee.org, 03/18/2008 04:47 pwg-announce@pwg.org PM cc Subject April 14,15 P2600 meetings with the PWG, April 16-18, 2008 (hotel link problem) FYI, There appears to be a problem with the web reservation system at the hotel for the April F2F meetings. The hotel is working on this but until this is fixed...... The web link for the hotel contains both direct and toll free telephone numbers that you can use. http://cwp.marriott.com/phxme/ieeeisto/ Ask for the ISTO, or IEEE, or PWG group rate. Jerry Thrasher Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards Lexmark International Inc. Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628 Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Mar 20 07:30:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C343A6B0B for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:30:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QAP-7JTQLiHG for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE0C3A6CD0 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2KERjsT011305 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:27:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2KERiqV011302 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:27:45 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:26:37 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2KEQRMT010929 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:26:29 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2KEQRUJ010926 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:26:27 -0400 Received: from eitc220.eitc.epson.com (eitcmail.eitc.epson.com [12.104.142.220] (may be forged)) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2KEQPjM010912 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:26:27 -0400 Received: by eitc220.eitc.epson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:26:24 -0700 Message-ID: <2F7D63A21DB2C74EB8EB8C09AF667DB0152D33BC@eitc220.eitc.epson.com> From: "Petrie, Glen" To: IPP@pwg.org Subject: RE: IPP> Reminder, Next IPPv2 Teleconference on Thurs (March 20) at 11:00 AM EDT Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:26:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Please see the following document in reference to Item 5.0 below ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-info/IPP-Operations-Supported-By-Solutio ns.pdf (doc) glen > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of > Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:12 PM > To: IPP@pwg.org > Subject: IPP> Reminder, Next IPPv2 Teleconference on Thurs (March 20) at > 11:00 AM EDT > > > IPPv2 WG Conference Call: > > Thursday, March 20, 2008, 11:00 AM EDT (8:00 AM PDT) > > Toll Free: 1-866-365-4406 > International: 00+1+303-248-9655 > Passcode: 2635888# > > Agenda: > > 1. Identify Minute Taker > 2. Approval of minutes from 3/6 Conference Call > 3. Review of Action Items > Ira - Obtain a list of the IPP operations supported by Open Solaris - > Completed > Ron - Generate a spread sheet similar to the one used in the WIMS/CIM > work, to > collect inputs from the group as to which operations should be > made required. > 5. Glen Petrie's Summary Of IPP Operations Supported document. > 6. Next steps From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Mar 20 09:07:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B384528C30C for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:07:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rmSxNd6J9Urh for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70E128C26C for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2KG5QoJ028988 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:05:28 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2KG5QFJ028985 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:05:26 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:04:29 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2KG4Ok4028707 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:04:26 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2KG4OW6028704 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:04:24 -0400 Received: from eitc220.eitc.epson.com (eitcmail.eitc.epson.com [12.104.142.220] (may be forged)) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2KG4Lnr028671 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:04:24 -0400 Received: by eitc220.eitc.epson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:04:18 -0700 Message-ID: <2F7D63A21DB2C74EB8EB8C09AF667DB0152D33BE@eitc220.eitc.epson.com> From: "Petrie, Glen" To: IPP@pwg.org Subject: RE: IPP> Reminder, Next IPPv2 Teleconference on Thurs (March 20) at 11:00 AM EDT Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:04:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org All, I have updated the document I put out earlier with all of CUPS IPP codes supported. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-info/IPP-Operations-Supported-By-Solutio ns.pdf (doc) glen > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of Petrie, > Glen > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:26 AM > To: IPP@pwg.org > Subject: RE: IPP> Reminder, Next IPPv2 Teleconference on Thurs (March 20) > at 11:00 AM EDT > > Please see the following document in reference to Item 5.0 below > > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-info/IPP-Operations-Supported-By- > Solutio > ns.pdf (doc) > > glen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-ipp@pwg.org [mailto:owner-ipp@pwg.org] On Behalf Of > > Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com > > Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:12 PM > > To: IPP@pwg.org > > Subject: IPP> Reminder, Next IPPv2 Teleconference on Thurs (March 20) at > > 11:00 AM EDT > > > > > > IPPv2 WG Conference Call: > > > > Thursday, March 20, 2008, 11:00 AM EDT (8:00 AM PDT) > > > > Toll Free: 1-866-365-4406 > > International: 00+1+303-248-9655 > > Passcode: 2635888# > > > > Agenda: > > > > 1. Identify Minute Taker > > 2. Approval of minutes from 3/6 Conference Call > > 3. Review of Action Items > > Ira - Obtain a list of the IPP operations supported by Open Solaris - > > Completed > > Ron - Generate a spread sheet similar to the one used in the WIMS/CIM > > work, to > > collect inputs from the group as to which operations should be > > made required. > > 5. Glen Petrie's Summary Of IPP Operations Supported document. > > 6. Next steps From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Mar 20 18:07:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4D93A67EB for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:07:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S1G1WW1+f+SI for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 931ED3A68FD for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2L15RI7015447 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:05:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2L15L0E015439 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:05:27 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:04:20 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2L14FAv015047 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:04:17 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2L14FWU015044 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:04:15 -0400 Received: from mail2.sharplabs.com (mail2.sharplabs.com [216.65.151.51]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2L14Deh015032 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:04:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.sharplabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85791E13DE for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:04:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sharplabs.com Received: from mail2.sharplabs.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.sharplabs.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rBPWu6sZS9ak for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wabex1.enet.sharplabs.com (wabex1.sharpamericas.com [172.29.224.8]) by mail2.sharplabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wabex2.sharpamericas.com ([172.29.224.9]) by wabex1.enet.sharplabs.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:03:59 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: IPP> Teleconference call minutes Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:03:59 -0700 Message-ID: <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288C68@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> In-Reply-To: <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288BA6@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: IPP> Teleconference call minutes Thread-Index: AchvXEXXHeBA66wORWC9OqlJeQlOfgGKpY/gBVoYM/A= References: <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288BA6@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> From: "Whittle, Craig" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2008 01:04:00.0033 (UTC) FILETIME=[72594910:01C88AEF] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by pwg.org id m2L14Feh015042 Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org All: The minutes from this week's teleconference call can be found at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/IPPv2-ConCall-Minutes-200803 20.pdf Best regards, **CW From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Fri Mar 21 11:41:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCD53A6BC7; 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Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:06:59 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=1j8HE5tct95HhwC1yoHM5czT5ZaTBTM9rDMLNg8nZoo=; b=XsRrHRMc/M3CIdN0ydWP3sP5SUs8vHymEgxy7q5RQ0v9TIrPoMCAxNjs5F352Y/N8IeoLqjV4vI3okMQZW9BEaqz6LCc5rHvYQZgF2BSYxTURF07QNGquIadbr+/Lmd96oUr4P1V8T8X5B9etuHu56kbfLKfZtm9icRIWXDy9Ns= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=qlP9Ph8pprLEBoGEkRc/wxOZeUaxHarF06bWvPWsF8OrsbuaOzXzfoa7kbHywhZHTaRTxa6OzX21h7co4REhHZtVUmY8/r4/MhxaCUNEjj3kA5W2jn7nUAuO+iql57JNB5BqC3MlBNBj5QbFZ2pQ8wgdeVzTu17eRUmd7NM451k= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:06:27 -0400 From: "Ira McDonald" To: pwg-announce@pwg.org, "Ira McDonald" Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> PWG Candidate Standard - PWG Counter MIB v2! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org Hi, At yesterday's PWG Steering Committee meeting, the process and votes were reviewed and approved by the SC. The final result: YES - 10 NO - 0 ABSTAIN - 0 Harry Lewis (InfoPrint, PWG Secretary) and I have the action item to fix up boilerplate, dates, etc. and get the final text published on the PWG server. This may take a few weeks yet. Cheers, - Ira (editor of PWG Counter MIB v2) -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Fri Mar 21 13:46:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C1F28C0FC; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:46:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.037 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.037 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28=1.561, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JOHs19WTsAiJ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2413A6BF5; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2LKhojg002367; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:43:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2LKhi7S002350; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:43:50 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:37:09 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2LKaYUF001233 for ; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:36:36 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2LKaYdA001230 for pwg-announce-out; Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:36:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: To: "Ira McDonald" Cc: pwg-announce@pwg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: PWG-ANNOUNCE> PWG Candidate Standard - PWG Counter MIB v2! X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF277 June 21, 2006 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:35:51 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 7.0.2FP2HF300 | September 14, 2007) at 03/21/2008 14:35:53, Serialize complete at 03/21/2008 14:35:53 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="=_related 0071259B87257413_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_related 0071259B87257413_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0071259B87257413_=" --=_alternative 0071259B87257413_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Indeed, the Imaging State and Counter MIB v2 has received final approval as a PWG Candidate Standard. Thanks to everyone who contributed for their hard work and thanks, Ira, for further helping get the word out! Regards, Harry - PWG Secretary Harry Lewis Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Standards Phone: 303-924-5337 e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com infoprint.com "Ira McDonald" Sent by: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org 03/21/2008 11:06 AM To pwg-announce@pwg.org, "Ira McDonald" cc Subject PWG-ANNOUNCE> PWG Candidate Standard - PWG Counter MIB v2! Hi, At yesterday's PWG Steering Committee meeting, the process and votes were reviewed and approved by the SC. The final result: YES - 10 NO - 0 ABSTAIN - 0 Harry Lewis (InfoPrint, PWG Secretary) and I have the action item to fix up boilerplate, dates, etc. and get the final text published on the PWG server. This may take a few weeks yet. Cheers, - Ira (editor of PWG Counter MIB v2) -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 --=_alternative 0071259B87257413_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Indeed, the Imaging State and Counter MIB v2 has received final approval as a PWG Candidate Standard. Thanks to everyone who contributed for their hard work and thanks, Ira, for further helping get the word out!

Regards,
Harry - PWG Secretary
Harry Lewis
Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Standards
Phone: 303-924-5337
e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com
infoprint.com




"Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
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03/21/2008 11:06 AM

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PWG-ANNOUNCE> PWG Candidate Standard - PWG Counter MIB v2!





Hi,

At yesterday's PWG Steering Committee meeting, the process and votes
were reviewed and approved by the SC.

The final result:
YES - 10
NO - 0
ABSTAIN - 0

Harry Lewis (InfoPrint, PWG Secretary) and I have the action item to
fix up boilerplate, dates, etc. and get the final text published on the
PWG server.  This may take a few weeks yet.

Cheers,
- Ira (editor of PWG Counter MIB v2)

--
Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
winter:
579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
734-944-0094
summer:
PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
906-494-2434
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To: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:01:47 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NJWC02/RCUS(Release 7.0.2FP1|January 10, 2007) at 03/25/2008 05:01:52 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org The next IPPv2 discussion will be at the IPP face-to-face meeting in Mesa, Arizona on Thursday afternoon (April 10). See the PWG web sit for exact times. From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Wed Mar 26 12:36:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD4728C0F7; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:36:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.261 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.261 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YQ+MBdCCmduj; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8DD28C6E3; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2QJYVMd030780; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:34:33 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m2QJYV5G030777; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:34:31 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:32:26 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m2QJWLft029920 for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:32:23 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m2QJWLLG029917 for pwg-announce-out; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:32:21 -0400 X-Xerox-Source-Ip: 13.151.210.15 X-Xerox-Source-Name: usa7061gw002.na.xerox.net X-Xerox-Reported-Name: USA7061GW002.na.xerox.net X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C88F77.F9867131" Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Last Call - Network Scan Service Use Cases and Requirements v1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:31:22 -0400 Message-ID: <1E8895E89BED824DBEDD47CDCA8CC28C02F168CF@USA0300MS04.na.xerox.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Last Call - Network Scan Service Use Cases and Requirements v1.0 Thread-Index: AciPd/kkn7oBbqBLTnCKLYLRw5gwGQ== From: "Zehler, Peter" To: Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2008 19:31:48.0292 (UTC) FILETIME=[08957840:01C88F78] Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C88F77.F9867131 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C88F77.F9867131" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C88F77.F9867131 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, The Network Scan Service Use Cases and Requirements v1.0 has completed MFD Working Group Last Call. The document is now being submitted to all members of the PWG for review and comments.=20 The document can be found at: < ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/lcrc-mfdscanreq10-20080324.pdf>.=20 The last call will end on April 17, 2008.=20 Send any comments or suggestions to mfd@pwg.org=20 Peter Zehler=20 Chairman MFD Working Group=20 =20 Peter Zehler =20 Xerox Research Center Webster Email: Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com Voice: (585) 265-8755 FAX: (585) 265-7441 US Mail: Peter Zehler Xerox Corp. 800 Phillips Rd. M/S 128-25E Webster NY, 14580-9701=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_002_01C88F77.F9867131 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All,

The Network Scan Service Use = Cases and Requirements v1.0 has completed MFD Working Group Last Call.  The = document is now being submitted to all members of the PWG for review and = comments.

The document can be found at: = <= ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/mfd/wd/lcrc-mfdscanreq10-20080324.pdf>. =

The last call will end on April = 17, 2008.

Send any comments or suggestions = to mfd@pwg.org =

Peter Zehler
Chairman MFD Working Group

 

Peter Zehler

Xerox Research = Center Webster
Email: = Peter.Zehler@Xerox.com
Voice: (585) 265-8755
FAX: (585) 265-7441
US Mail: Peter Zehler
Xerox Corp.
800 Phillips Rd.
M/S 128-25E
Webster NY, 14580-9701

 

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