From ipp-owner@pwg.org Fri Aug 1 06:58:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B92C28C434 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:58:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id szmBb8qfDBCW for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCE43A6DA4 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m71DwUbx021310 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:58:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m71DwR1W021299 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:58:30 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:57:21 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m71DvB1M020719 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:57:13 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m71DvB1j020716 for ipp-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:57:11 -0400 Received: from psmtp.com (exprod8ob119.obsmtp.com [64.18.3.37]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m71Dv6jF020696; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:57:09 -0400 Received: from source ([192.146.101.7]) by exprod8ob119.postini.com ([64.18.7.12]) with SMTP; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:56:50 PDT Received: from lxkssmtp2e.lex.lexmark.com (smtp5b.notes.lexmark.com [157.184.50.112]) by smtp02a.notes.lexmark.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F7AB821F; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:29:26 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4892299A.5090502@apple.com> Subject: Re: IPP> RFC: Add required document-format values for IPP v2? To: Michael R Sweet Cc: Ira McDonald , ipp@pwg.org, "Farrell, Lee" , owner-ipp@pwg.org, ptykodi@tykodi.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Dave Whitehead Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:32:02 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 6.5.5|November 30, 2005) at 08/01/2008 09:31:59 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Well, I think we need to add at least one required document format. How that needs to proceed I'll leave up to others. How do the other members feel about this? Also, a PWG developed test suite for IPP validation! I like the idea. I remember talking about this on several occasions. If it's not on our to-do list, it should be. dhw Michael R Sweet To Ira McDonald 07/31/2008 05:07 PM cc Dave Whitehead , ipp@pwg.org, "Farrell, Lee" , owner-ipp@pwg.org, ptykodi@tykodi.com Subject Re: IPP> RFC: Add required document-format values for IPP v2? Ira McDonald wrote: > Hi, > > I agree with Dave Whitehead that required document formats (or any other > new IPP requirements) belong in a separate standards-track PWG spec. Again, we're already changing the ipp-versions-supported and the IPP header to have 2.x version numbers. Doing a separate spec that is literally 8 pages of boilerplate and 1 page of real content seems like a lot of overhead for this! > Prototyping in the PWG Process does NOT require any interoperability testing > at all. It's just a partial implementation (no minimum content) by a > single vendor. Keep in mind that CUPS already supports 3 out of the 4 formats I've proposed. However, I'd argue that we need at least one printer vendor to implement it as well... Also, given the mess we have today, I think we really (really!) need to do interop testing and come up with a standard test suite that vendors can use to self-validate. (CUPS already has much of this in its "make check" automated tests to validate its IPP/1.1 conformance) > ... > If we need new IPP projects, then so be it. But please let's not destroy the > chance of IPP2x by introducing new content and breaking the concensus > to proceed that was based on no new content. IPP/2.x with no required document formats is no better than IPP/1.1. > IPP/1.0 implementations DO NOT conform to IPP/1.1 and WILL NOT conform > to IPP/2.0 - end of story. True. The question is, who will upgrade to IPP/2.0 if there is no compelling reason to do so? -- ______________________________________________________________________ Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System Engineer From ipp-owner@pwg.org Fri Aug 1 12:00:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A914528C12C for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:00:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bXCwAMLVMGVK for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 875A328C0E8 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m71J13IF017303 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:01:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m71J11VR017296 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:01:03 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:59:52 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m71Ixm2N016972 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:59:50 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m71Ixm4H016969 for ipp-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:59:48 -0400 Received: from mail150.ricoh-usa-com (host150.ricoh-usa.com [208.252.21.150]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m71Ixj90016956 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:59:47 -0400 X-SEF-Processed: 5_0_0_816__2008_08_01_14_59_45 Received: from Unknown [172.16.19.238] by njwcntas37.us.ricoh.ds - SurfControl E-mail Filter ; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:59:45 -0400 Subject: IPP> 8/4 Telecon Canceled To: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:59:40 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NJWC02/RCUS(Release 7.0.2FP1|January 10, 2007) at 08/01/2008 02:59:45 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org The Telecon scheduled for Monday, August 4th is canceled. I have not received any proposals for the Rationale, Use Models, and Security sections, so there is very little to discuss. From ipp-owner@pwg.org Fri Aug 1 14:49:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA69C28C129 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:49:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KaUA+BzYRSrP for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3AF28C12E for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m71LnSP9010598 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:49:30 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m71LnPx7010591 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:49:28 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:48:26 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m71LmM4q010304 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:48:24 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m71LmMjc010301 for ipp-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:48:22 -0400 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m71LmJG4010297 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:48:22 -0400 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so538881nfb.41 for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:48:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pxlnajJ0N4S/gdskkbYmhyCud8cJ1p9QZmjEZofy7Wo=; b=R51eqCgVrqA43IzOq6n/B3/Wy3A9Ymh8iV6MxAxl7Yo4AOlodG+N4QjJkZmFIi1fPv GRXvgjK0Q+Gic5yWKe7ODc3FkEG12qYfNgJgBB1YxXKW9txpVKKfTgopIkHgaSg8++R1 Fk+Wpow8LzBAixpoij+c2S97+VjOzJoTQ8Rak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=P9mRcsZmQ0Gpmst1AqtDJicM8k5/Gfyvhi1DfILYPCT2K9j0NnA6jHsn6eRms+dPWw SZIc8wVY2GFwziNQPxccIccN+WhrlxsLNyJ+Vmb021tDbGUCnfH/HFTsndf2FfJStBzr DY7uoafODsI0OXvca2tlIeUfMsjlsS7HyDdmA= Received: by 10.210.92.8 with SMTP id p8mr13289500ebb.182.1217627299006; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.135.19 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:48:18 -0400 From: "Ira McDonald" To: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com, "Ira McDonald" Subject: Re: IPP> 8/4 Telecon Canceled Cc: ipp@pwg.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi Ron, Sorry about that - I've been in the trenches for the last two weeks and had no time - I would have had trouble attending Monday anyway. Cheers, - Ira On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:59 PM, wrote: > > The Telecon scheduled for Monday, August 4th is canceled. I have not > received any proposals for the Rationale, Use Models, and Security > sections, so there is very little to discuss. > > > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Fri Aug 1 16:10:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E84A28C145; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:10:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lstnP-wsZLmH; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3EF28C137; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m71NB3ZO022457; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:11:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m71NB1tE022452; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:11:03 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:09:13 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m71N99AK022018 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:09:11 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m71N99XQ022015 for pwg-announce-out; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:09:09 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sharplabs.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8F42B.95DEF92B" Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Rough August face-to-face PWG meetings RSVP Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:09:01 -0700 Message-ID: <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA7442890B9@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Rough August face-to-face PWG meetings RSVP Thread-Index: Acj0K5VnbD0Sdk0ES7Kb2REUw2mPcA== From: "Whittle, Craig" To: Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2008 23:09:02.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[962FB860:01C8F42B] Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8F42B.95DEF92B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All: =20 Please reply if you are planning to attend the face-to-face PWG meeting hosted by Sharp Labs of America in Camas, Washington (very close to Portland, Oregon). 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Please reply if you are planning to attend the face-to-face PWG meeting hosted = by Sharp Labs of America in Camas, Washington = (very close to Portland, Oregon).  The agenda, = directions/map, and hotel recommendations have been posted (see = http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/August_2008_Portland.html).&nbs= p;  

 

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C8F42B.95DEF92B-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Fri Aug 1 18:45:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1E13A6B6A for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:45:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JZoRnXPnX8uc for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5729B3A6B69 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:45:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m721jDdx013654 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:45:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m721j8Y4013642 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:45:13 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:44:05 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m721i1qM013323 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:44:03 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m721i1r8013320 for ipp-outgoing; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:44:01 -0400 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m721hvuf013314 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:44:00 -0400 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so553664nfb.41 for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:43:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=yFvS1ALR0qn1D+b+qZjfJ2zi3YyPfNrP/bH0r1WG8m4=; b=RoamSclZYjKOP7qeP2gM+ngRjQJeFvs2/WNwfQWZDb0V6/7p13T8CjoGTTWGYcmD+3 mhWjJfxCyZ4QBkaB1ABwEQsSbXyO//C6h8XH2Rf9a4ua59MFXZykOvk0R/Sr1sE7daMq uV43THabmsqEmf+8v7DvTC+ETSkYiovBCAOAg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=u5ctDDz7xy9fReduKCmWHXerCHpjfO+Kp0k1kcEl5ZoeQiQxxlV+BIAAUSL8CTPaUV 4iE1GwQFq6oijYGC3lMrFWxY0uq5ELrzXNm+mUOvYvy9rhrESEVXL7f88xezEVzLlroh not9KRkK6pQxWxbOyd72Fi78OfjMtCwThX5S8= Received: by 10.210.34.2 with SMTP id h2mr5863938ebh.38.1217641437291; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.135.19 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:43:57 -0400 From: "Ira McDonald" To: ipp@pwg.org, "Ira McDonald" Subject: IPP> Section 3 Requirements for IPP/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_13769_19672479.1217641437292" Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org ------=_Part_13769_19672479.1217641437292 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, Please review via email and at upcoming face-to-face. Attached and appended below (both in plaintext). Word usage - Ron - the term 'workgroup' (one word) is ubiquitously used (and automatically suggested in the Google search bar) for computer and printing environments. The term 'work group' (two words) is only correctly used in sociology, etc. Please normalize in the IPP/2.0 spec (both are now used). Correct draft filename of IPP/2.0 Profiles spec should be: wd-ipp20-2008mmdd.pdf / doc Due to travel conflicts, I will NOT be calling into the IPP, WIMS, or MFD WG sessions at the August face-to-face meeting. Good luck. Cheers, - Ira -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 ---------------------------------------------------------- 3. Requirements 3.1. Rationale for IPP/2.0 The Printer MIB v2 [RFC3805] and Port Monitor MIB [PWG5107.1] define: (a) Model of Print Devices (b) Operations for Print Devices - prtGeneralReset - prtConsoleDisable (c) Groups of simple attributes for Print Devices - prtInputTable --> prtInputName - ppmPortTable --> ppmPortServiceNameOrURI (d) Conformance requirements for implementations of Printer MIB v2 and Port Monitor MIB The IPP/1.1 Model and Semantics [RFC2911] defines: (a) Model of Print Services, Print Devices, and Print Jobs (b) Operations for Print Services and Print Jobs - Pause-Printer - Print-Job (c) Attributes for Print Services and Print Jobs - printer-location - job-id (d) Conformance requirements for implementations of IPP/1.1 The IPP/1.1 Encoding and Transport [RFC2910] defines: (a) Protocol Bindings for IPP/1.1 - HTTP with optional upgrade to TLS (b) Mappings of operations for Print Services and Print Jobs Jobs. (c) Conformance requirements for implementations of IPP/1.1 Later IETF and PWG standards-track specifications defined 14 IPP/1.1 extensions including: (a) New operations - Set-Printer-Attributes [RFC3380] - Resume-Job [RFC3998] (b) New attribute syntaxes - collection [RFC3382] (c) New objects - Subscription [RFC3995] - Document [PWG5100.5] Current enterprise printers often support functionality standardized in these IPP/1.1 extensions (in a proprietary manner). In order to support user requirements for advanced printing functionality, there is a clear need to standardize profiles of these IPP/1.1 extensions for reliable interoperability and to encourage adoption of IPP-based infrastructure. 3.2. Use Models See the definitions of Workgroup Printer, Enterprise Printer, and Production Printer in section 2 Terminology above. 3.2.1. Workgroup Printer Alice, Bob, and Charlie are graphic artists who share a workgroup printer down the hall. They all load paper when needed. Alice and Bob have convinced Charlie that he should load the toner cartridges. But they do use many paper sizes - they need PWG Media Standardized Names [PWG5101.1] used in the IPP 'media' attribute. And they print lots of thumbnails of graphic images - they need standard IPP document formats. 3.2.2. Enterprise Printer Joe and his colleagues send large documents to an enterprise printer in a building across the street in a 'glasshouse' with some web servers. Both Joe and the operator Sue in the glasshouse manage lots of jobs - they need to hold and release jobs. Joe wants to keep track of his jobs - he needs to subscribe for job events. Sue is expected to manage several printers - she needs to enable and disable printers (i.e., enable/disable accepting new jobs over input channels). 3.2.3. Production Printer Louise works in Accounting for a big wholesaler in Kansas City. She sends variable data jobs (e.g., different user names, user addresses, and balance owed amounts formatted onto a pre-printed form) to a production printer in Chicago. Her friend Sam is a night-shift operator in Chicago. 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12:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m77JNigA013292; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:23:46 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m77JNf8G013280; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:23:44 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:21:37 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m77JLXIC012470 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:21:35 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m77JLX7s012467 for pwg-announce-out; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:21:33 -0400 To: pwg-announce@pwg.org Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Dail-in numbers for future calls and F2F meetings MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Jerry Thrasher Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:21:25 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 6.5.5|November 30, 2005) at 08/07/2008 15:21:28, Serialize complete at 08/07/2008 15:21:28 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006A54FF8525749E_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006A54FF8525749E_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" PWG Member Due to today's interruption of one of the PWG's conference calls, we are going to be forced to change the Participant Code (at least) and possibly the dial-in number althogether. In the future, any email or calender mention of the conference call number for PWG activities will include ONLY the following information. 1. The Dial-In phone number. 2. Possibly a listen-only participant code. A Full Participant Code that allows those calling into calls to participate in the call MUST request the code from the Chair of the group holding the call. Jerry Thrasher Printer Working Group Chiar Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards Lexmark International Inc. Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628 Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com --=_alternative 006A54FF8525749E_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
PWG Member

Due to today's interruption of one of the PWG's conference calls, we are going to be forced to
change the Participant Code (at least) and possibly the dial-in number althogether.  In the future,
any email or calender mention of the conference call number for PWG activities will include
ONLY the following information.

1. The Dial-In phone number.
2. Possibly a listen-only participant code.

A Full Participant Code that allows those calling into calls to participate in the call MUST request
the code from the Chair of the group holding the call.

Jerry Thrasher
Printer Working Group Chiar
Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards
Lexmark International Inc.
Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628
Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com --=_alternative 006A54FF8525749E_=-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Aug 7 16:39:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3F93A6BCF for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:39:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j9ZMSyp1WD86 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9673A680C for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m77Nd14J025911 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:39:03 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m77Nd1L0025907 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:39:01 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:38:04 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m77Nbs8k025674 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:37:56 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m77NbsEu025671 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:37:54 -0400 Received: from mail150.ricoh-usa-com (host150.ricoh-usa.com [208.252.21.150]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m77NbpSM025659 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:37:53 -0400 X-SEF-Processed: 5_0_0_816__2008_08_07_19_37_51 Received: from Unknown [172.16.19.238] by njwcntas37.us.ricoh.ds - SurfControl E-mail Filter ; Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:37:51 -0400 Subject: IPP> Updated IPPv2 Specification Available To: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:37:45 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NJWC02/RCUS(Release 7.0.2FP1|January 10, 2007) at 08/07/2008 07:37:51 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org A revised IPPv2 specification containing the recommended changes from the July 21 telecon is now available at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-wd/wd-ippv2-spec20-20080806.pdf (.doc) The pdf version is "clean". The changes can be viewed in the .doc version. From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Sat Aug 9 16:05:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FE63A68DD; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:05:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6OeNEGPtyGSE; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6B63A68BA; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m79N5BYL002831; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 19:05:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m79N59pe002807; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 19:05:11 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 9 Aug 2008 19:03:20 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m79N3G2t002213 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 19:03:18 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m79N3Gxi002210 for pwg-announce-out; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 19:03:16 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8FA74.18C3E3E5" Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Plenary slides posted for PDM and (part of) WIMS-CIM Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:03:11 -0500 Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FC0181E807@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Plenary slides posted for PDM and (part of) WIMS-CIM Thread-Index: Acj6dBiznJDfcdcMTYCDZxcVl2sz4Q== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2008 23:03:11.0980 (UTC) FILETIME=[18D4AAC0:01C8FA74] Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8FA74.18C3E3E5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Slides for the plenary session. ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/PWG-F2F-200808-PDM-Plena ry-summary-01.pdf and .ppt ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/PWG-F2F-200808-WIMS-CIM- Plenary-summary-01.pdf and .ppt rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-32, Round Rock, TX 78682 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8FA74.18C3E3E5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Plenary slides posted for PDM and (part of) WIMS-CIM

Slides for the plenary session.

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/PWG-F2F-20= 0808-PDM-Plenary-summary-01.pdf  and .ppt
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/presentations/PWG-F2F-20= 0808-WIMS-CIM-Plenary-summary-01.pdf  and .ppt

rick
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Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds = & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office
+1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, = MS RR5-32, Round Rock, TX 78682

------_=_NextPart_001_01C8FA74.18C3E3E5-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Sat Aug 9 18:27:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2463A6805; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:27:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.298 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.298 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2s0bJKuuUfAZ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BC63A67A5; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7A1RH4v024958; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:27:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7A1RFGs024954; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:27:17 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:25:36 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7A1PX0s024384 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:25:35 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7A1PXpa024381 for pwg-announce-out; Sat, 9 Aug 2008 21:25:33 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: s=smtpout; d=dell.com; c=nofws; q=dns; h=X-MimeOLE:Content-class:MIME-Version:Content-Type: Subject:Date:Message-ID:X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:Thread-Topic:Thread-Index:From:To: Return-Path:X-OriginalArrivalTime; b=y2dwk3aVXaP1jW0tztde4EFCFdKh6YVmTTaJ9kkjGwEyhIlZn9/VOYNa cRmBk+XIeniy4BQQlACuo4RJGoqTop5CRw3SNjG5Ufg2In9sbAxfgsFDP t1XvXCo4RPTBDVG; X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8FA87.FA190B64" Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Posted slides for WIMS-CIM WG session at Aug f2f Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 20:25:30 -0500 Message-ID: <8546BF850DA5144EBE4E0486C86E36FC0181E808@ausx3mps304.aus.amer.dell.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Posted slides for WIMS-CIM WG session at Aug f2f Thread-Index: Acj6h/nP5UesOGF7Qq6dWPFCmrd6GA== From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2008 01:25:30.0198 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA015760:01C8FA87] Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8FA87.FA190B64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Slides about prototype proxy provider: what is it, how does it fit into the system.=20 ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/wims/cim/ProxyProviderPix-02.pdf rick ---------------------- Richard_Landau(at)dell(dot)com, Stds & System Mgt Architecture, CTO Office +1-512-728-9023, One Dell Way, RR5-3, MS RR5-32, Round Rock, TX 78682 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8FA87.FA190B64 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Posted slides for WIMS-CIM WG session at Aug f2f

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Slides for the WIMS-CIM August 14  meeting are posted at
 
 
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--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_7788_1218487214_0-- From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Mon Aug 11 16:35:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957873A6A92; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:35:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ATSIUpa-Wvth; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B330E3A689B; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7BNZE82026289; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:35:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7BNZ8Nr026282; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:35:14 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:33:25 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7BNXM9v025777 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:33:24 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7BNXMmn025774 for pwg-announce-out; Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:33:22 -0400 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Reminder.....The August 2008 PWG F2F meeting begins Wed. at 9:00 AM PDT To: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Jerry Thrasher Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:33:13 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 6.5.5|November 30, 2005) at 08/11/2008 19:33:18 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org PWG members, Reminder that the August 2008 PWG Face to Face meeting will begin on Wed. August 13, at 9:00 AM PDT. An updated agenda with document links can be found at: http://www.pwg.org/chair/meeting-info/August_2008_Portland.html For those not able to attend in person, a telephone bridge number will be provided. The details of the conference call are: Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 866-469-3239 Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-650-429-3300 Participant Code: (Restricted)** **Note: The Participant Code for the call MUST be requested from the Chair. Jerry Thrasher Printer Working Group Chair Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards Lexmark International Inc. Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628 Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Fri Aug 15 07:34:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AE128C21E; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:34:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.462 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.462 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_12=2.46, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BX2vaUT5XZ55; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF4D28C237; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 07:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7FEYlQt005379; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:34:49 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7FEYj2U005352; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:34:47 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:32:46 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7FEWgc7004616 for ; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:32:44 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7FEWglI004613 for pwg-announce-out; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:32:42 -0400 To: pwg-announce@pwg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> Aug 2008 Plenary minutes posted X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 7.0 HF277 June 21, 2006 Message-ID: From: Harry Lewis Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:32:28 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D03NM132/03/M/IBM(Release 8.0.1|February 07, 2008) at 08/15/2008 08:32:29, Serialize complete at 08/15/2008 08:32:29 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="=_related 004FE0EF872574A6_=" Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_related 004FE0EF872574A6_= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004FE0EF872574A6_=" --=_alternative 004FE0EF872574A6_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Minutes from the August 2008 PWG Plenary can be found here Thanks to Sharp Labs America for hosting at their excellent facility in Camas, WA! ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg_plenary_minutes_20080814.pdf Regards, Harry Harry Lewis Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards Phone: 303-924-5337 e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com infoprint.com P Think before you print --=_alternative 004FE0EF872574A6_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Minutes from the August 2008 PWG Plenary can be found here

Thanks to Sharp Labs America for hosting at their excellent facility in Camas, WA!
ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/general/minutes/pwg_plenary_minutes_20080814.pdf
Regards,
Harry

Harry Lewis
Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards
Phone: 303-924-5337
e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com
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Therefore, I have updated the previous draft to reflect my proposal. I used my initials (HRL) in the draft file name to distinguish it as a proposal which has not been fully vetted (for ease of reverting if my thoughts are rejected). While I think it is appropriate to guide the function set discussions (and definitions) by perceived workgroup, enterprise and production scenarios I would like to avoid propagating the association in a specification because it may be (mis)interepred as a product requirements document (rather than an interop spec). ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-wd/wd-ippv2-spec20-20080815HRL.doc Regards, Harry Harry Lewis Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards Phone: 303-924-5337 e-mail: harryl@us.ibm.com infoprint.com P Think before you print --=_alternative 00685FF4872574A6_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
At the Camus f2f, I was the main person who lobbied against use of the terms Workgroup, Enterprise and Production in association with IPPv2 function sets. Therefore, I have updated the previous draft to reflect my proposal. I used my initials (HRL) in the draft file name to distinguish it as a proposal which has not been fully vetted (for ease of reverting if my thoughts are rejected).

While I think it is appropriate to guide the function set  discussions (and definitions) by perceived workgroup, enterprise and production scenarios I would like to avoid propagating the association in a specification because it may be (mis)interepred as a product requirements document (rather than an interop spec).  

ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-wd/wd-ippv2-spec20-20080815HRL.doc

Regards,
Harry

Harry Lewis
Program Manager - Intellectual Property & Open Standards
Phone: 303-924-5337
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The minutes from the IPPv2 Camas, WA face-to-face meeting can be found = at:

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C90314.3C2CF26B-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Aug 20 16:20:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D4EC3A6A6C for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:20:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ImpFvQ4wDSHI for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34E813A6993 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7KNJjJd017417 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:19:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7KNJgIV017393 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:19:45 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:18:48 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7KNIh5J016922 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:18:45 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7KNIhZI016919 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:18:43 -0400 Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7KNIfSk016901 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:18:43 -0400 Received: from relay12.apple.com (relay12.apple.com [17.128.113.53]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAC3375FB02; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay12.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay12.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 100DF464003; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:18:41 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807135-a75f4bb000001321-29-48aca650f423 Received: from mbp.local (unknown [17.151.102.238]) by relay12.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id C0678420005; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48ACA650.6040505@apple.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:18:40 -0700 From: Michael Sweet Organization: Apple Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Whittle, Craig" CC: ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> Face-to-face meeting minutes posted References: <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288F35@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288F97@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA74428901E@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA74466AF0A@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> In-Reply-To: <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA74466AF0A@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Whittle, Craig wrote: > > > All: > > > > The minutes from the IPPv2 Camas, WA face-to-face meeting can be found at: > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/08AUG-Camas-IPPv2-face-to-face.pdf Feedback on meeting notes: 1. Just to be clear, the consensus was to remove the document-format requirements entirely? 2. WRT XPS, it is patent-encumbered and not covered by any existing ISO, IETF, PWG, or W3C standards. It may make a fine high-level PDL, but IMHO it isn't a good fit for a required document-format. 3. WRT BMLinkS, this is the first I have heard of it. The web site indicates modest adoption by Japanese vendors, and as best as I can tell from the documentation everything is passed as TIFF files, which are a nightmare to support thanks to the thousands of possible varients you'll run into... 4. CUPS doesn't define required formats, but it does implement a lot of them. I'm more than happy to write up a spec for this, though... -- ______________________________________________________________________ Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System Engineer From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Aug 20 19:52:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DF23A6970 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:52:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QzlBXj+k6l+O for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D2F3A6937 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7L2qugU006379 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:52:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7L2qrZD006362 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:52:55 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:51:54 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7L2pomN005913 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:51:52 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7L2po7P005910 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:51:50 -0400 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7L2pkaN005884 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:51:49 -0400 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b2so421026nfb.41 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:51:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Su30Jo/itwkVL4B1VW7j237WtRScYIKELvLh3rF6d74=; b=cg/OV0ETGz8Lou3KfWgsBKpFokuMefvUSuN2iBbhA/km9InnWDRMsNmXINeCG96Xqc M6u6fPv1RTShPt9OvzJNdzny8mMiEeR/WzPR5vnuHft6m7GI7WBQUCbUliRBPsQ62hUt B093bgy3BhltD/GK8sm9WBYuWSs59VJJSz6Io= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=pyoF26hkr5WMemjyVb9ddPGnsxA8iaXXBQiwLyRAMgkZhmZmmzioNFjLp2B0mfPdLT CM8M34++bWUnDtN/iqZGabIZvg19AuNTJZx0j1qVNa9q7e9ziXZIEtD07hqo6YKoegiZ P0c2vk+T3zqo9jp0gLOESCivI0v77L2GaqUKg= Received: by 10.210.54.19 with SMTP id c19mr1121847eba.107.1219287105271; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.38.10 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:51:45 -0400 From: "Ira McDonald" To: "Michael Sweet" , "Ira McDonald" Subject: Re: IPP> Face-to-face meeting minutes posted Cc: "Whittle, Craig" , ipp@pwg.org In-Reply-To: <48ACA650.6040505@apple.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288F35@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288F97@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA74428901E@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA74466AF0A@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <48ACA650.6040505@apple.com> Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi, XPS - I agree with Mike that it's not appropriate as a required document format for IPP right now. But it *is* being formally standardized in ECMA Technical Committee 46: http://www.ecma-international.org/memento/TC46.htm And their current draft 1.2 is much improved from the earlier drafts - worth watching. Cheers, - Ira On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Whittle, Craig wrote: >> >> >> All: >> >> >> The minutes from the IPPv2 Camas, WA face-to-face meeting can be found at: >> >> >> ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/08AUG-Camas-IPPv2-face-to-face.pdf > > Feedback on meeting notes: > > 1. Just to be clear, the consensus was to remove the > document-format requirements entirely? > > 2. WRT XPS, it is patent-encumbered and not covered by any > existing ISO, IETF, PWG, or W3C standards. It may make a > fine high-level PDL, but IMHO it isn't a good fit for a > required document-format. > > 3. WRT BMLinkS, this is the first I have heard of it. The > web site indicates modest adoption by Japanese vendors, > and as best as I can tell from the documentation > everything is passed as TIFF files, which are a nightmare > to support thanks to the thousands of possible varients > you'll run into... > > 4. CUPS doesn't define required formats, but it does implement > a lot of them. I'm more than happy to write up a spec > for this, though... > > -- > ______________________________________________________________________ > Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System Engineer > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Aug 20 21:38:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B873A6832 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:38:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.930, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uZYAhLw6pJr0 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E2E3A69AD for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7L4Whb9027116 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:38:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7L3foqG014759 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:41:50 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:41:46 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7L3fg6o014651 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:41:44 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7L3fgIB014648 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:41:42 -0400 Received: from mail-out4.apple.com (mail-out4.apple.com [17.254.13.23]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7L3fdSF014641 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:41:41 -0400 Received: from relay14.apple.com (relay14.apple.com [17.128.113.52]) by mail-out4.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CAB9390255A; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay14.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay14.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 0082D2808C; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:35:01 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807134-a8d61bb000000ece-21-48ace2653e79 Received: from mbp.local (unknown [17.151.112.241]) by relay14.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id A4A4728040; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48ACE265.7050909@apple.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:35:01 -0700 From: Michael Sweet Organization: Apple Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ira McDonald CC: "Whittle, Craig" , ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> Face-to-face meeting minutes posted References: <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288F35@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288F97@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA74428901E@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA74466AF0A@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <48ACA650.6040505@apple.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Ira McDonald wrote: > Hi, > > XPS - I agree with Mike that it's not appropriate as a required document > format for IPP right now. But it *is* being formally standardized in ECMA > Technical Committee 46: > > http://www.ecma-international.org/memento/TC46.htm > > And their current draft 1.2 is much improved from the earlier drafts > - worth watching. Unless the patent stuff is resolved to allow for open source/free software implementations, I would be opposed to adding it even if it gets an ECMA stamp of approval. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System Engineer From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Aug 20 21:39:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47BE3A6846 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:39:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ll6VCLbPLk0s for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E831A3A6832 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7L4WhdT027116 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:39:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7L3iRho015638 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:44:27 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:44:26 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7L3iMe1015554 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:44:24 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7L3iMwH015551 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:44:22 -0400 Received: from ik-out-1112.google.com (ik-out-1112.google.com [66.249.90.183]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7L3iJj1015544 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:44:21 -0400 Received: by ik-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id c29so613518ika.7 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:44:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qMLpQmcC4WbwCTSJ7ogXLwNWr/iaL8Zc9YHCZHVobz4=; b=fU3yKMf1helaFjZYIKDgW5Mn1zJhfZVHiiLV5qHs/7tBrU2T6t531hKRsgRIpcAu3b 4RETkXEFQkO3hnpdx9sGeqcEdtZhPOrhB+ufDdmeLUbQPMj4rEo/rj5ud+qYm6cwHIsL CGYGjztkF1LTv+BA+U84Phd1bIIPdfyxKInXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=i9rEzAFCWY0+MFuXyw02e+zWJYYR0Qg9/M2yJ9u0VFnICjoZn84CG6Y++1F4dmRAW5 afmGQnoFoaKUWL2rvo8iiqRHnV+2ZZKziKEyC6dt5TJrK6duiiCUOo0+rlxmQa39eRdG vL0RVVpGd/dKdNBDvwrXViQ2yAWMBJzfkF+9s= Received: by 10.210.56.7 with SMTP id e7mr1194597eba.5.1219290258463; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.38.10 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:44:18 -0400 From: "Ira McDonald" To: "Michael Sweet" , "Ira McDonald" Subject: Re: IPP> Face-to-face meeting minutes posted Cc: "Whittle, Craig" , ipp@pwg.org In-Reply-To: <48ACE265.7050909@apple.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288F35@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA744288F97@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA74428901E@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <2DB650784C0A9649B560DE38F68DA74466AF0A@wabex2.sharpamericas.com> <48ACA650.6040505@apple.com> <48ACE265.7050909@apple.com> Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi Mike, I agree - the PWG hasn't ever standardized encumbered technology and it shouldn't ever start doing so. Cheers, - Ira On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > Ira McDonald wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> XPS - I agree with Mike that it's not appropriate as a required document >> format for IPP right now. But it *is* being formally standardized in ECMA >> Technical Committee 46: >> >> http://www.ecma-international.org/memento/TC46.htm >> >> And their current draft 1.2 is much improved from the earlier drafts >> - worth watching. > > Unless the patent stuff is resolved to allow for open source/free > software implementations, I would be opposed to adding it even if > it gets an ECMA stamp of approval. > > -- > ______________________________________________________________________ > Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System Engineer > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Aug 21 07:42:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE413A6B64 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:42:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 62t0BT4soPyQ for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B873A684A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7LEgL9H021089 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:42:23 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7LEgI9c021073 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:42:21 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:41:11 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7LEf0sf020538 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:41:02 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7LEf09v020535 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:41:00 -0400 Received: from QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7LEevVG020514 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:40:59 -0400 Received: from OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by QMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4zrF1a0021HpZEsA82gwZz; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:40:56 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter17.comcast.net ([204.127.197.127]) by OMTA14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 52gu1a00b2lQJFg8a2gumt; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:40:54 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6eSfVJ7oOyEA:10 a=XUK-87w3Cz0A:10 a=GeqbvrhsAAAA:8 a=FyY7fbpmbHpL9wFEc6gA:9 a=kb_0UaDgy-tc-HRckKgA:7 a=fVlPpVSqgavC2cxNqgXMS4Lb4AoA:4 a=RyDGidKqpxIA:10 a=MDABLX8d_eUA:10 a=rsfPTdSKCToA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=JqzK7hVu6n4A:10 a=nVzJgapXHXUutgj8VusA:9 a=gB2Yj_wq5RH1EVfcx7IuZpnt34kA:4 a=1m2o3fkUcNwA:10 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Received: from [12.10.245.202] by rmailcenter17.comcast.net; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:40:53 +0000 From: wamwagner@comcast.net To: "Ira McDonald" , "Michael Sweet" , "Ira McDonald" Cc: "Whittle, Craig" , ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> Face-to-face meeting minutes posted Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:40:53 +0000 Message-Id: <082120081440.17571.48AD7E500006E52B000044A322058891169D0A02090E99030E99@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: d2Ftd2FnbmVyQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17571_1219329653_0" Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17571_1219329653_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It did not come out in the minutes, but I mixed things up a bit at the IPP meeting by suggesting that XPS should be given an enum for the printer MIB (along with asking how the WSD interface entry for the printer MIB was comming). There was no suggestion to standardize XPS for IPP. Indeed, as the minutes indicated, the identification of any required PDL for IPP was considered out of scope under the current project. It was pointed out that there is no problem in identifing XPS as a supported PDL in IPP. Bill Wagner -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Ira McDonald" > Hi Mike, > > I agree - the PWG hasn't ever standardized encumbered technology > and it shouldn't ever start doing so. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > Ira McDonald wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> XPS - I agree with Mike that it's not appropriate as a required document > >> format for IPP right now. But it *is* being formally standardized in ECMA > >> Technical Committee 46: > >> > >> http://www.ecma-international.org/memento/TC46.htm > >> > >> And their current draft 1.2 is much improved from the earlier drafts > >> - worth watching. > > > > Unless the patent stuff is resolved to allow for open source/free > > software implementations, I would be opposed to adding it even if > > it gets an ECMA stamp of approval. > > > > -- > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System Engineer > > > > > > -- > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > winter: > 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 > 734-944-0094 > summer: > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 > 906-494-2434 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17571_1219329653_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
It did not come out  in the minutes, but I mixed things up a bit at the IPP meeting by suggesting that XPS should be given an enum for the printer MIB (along with asking how the WSD  interface entry for the printer MIB was comming). There was no suggestion to standardize XPS for IPP. Indeed, as the minutes indicated, the identification of any required PDL for IPP was considered out of scope under the current project. It was pointed out that there is no problem in identifing XPS as a supported PDL in IPP.
 
Bill Wagner
 
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>

> Hi Mike,
>
> I agree - the PWG hasn't ever standardized encumbered technology
> and it shouldn't ever start doing so.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Michael Sweet wrote:
> > Ira McDonald wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> XPS - I agree with Mike that it's not appropriate as a required document
> >> format for IPP right now. But it *is* being formally standardized in ECMA
> >> Technical Committee 46:
> >>
> >> http://www.ecma-international.org/memento/TC46.htm
> >>
> >> And their current draft 1.2 is much improved from the earlier drafts
! > &g t;> - worth watching.
> >
> > Unless the patent stuff is resolved to allow for open source/free
> > software implementations, I would be opposed to adding it even if
> > it gets an ECMA stamp of approval.
> >
> > --
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System Engineer
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
> email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> winter:
> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
> 734-944-0094
> summer:
> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
> 906-494-2434
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_17571_1219329653_0-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Thu Aug 21 07:46:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912013A68BC for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:46:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OlITcJGhWQCF for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:45:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F633A6826 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7LEk4Uh022670 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:46:06 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7LEk4vP022667 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:46:04 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:45:06 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7LEj2rQ022082 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:45:04 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7LEj2aE022079 for ipp-outgoing; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:45:02 -0400 Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7LEiuMq022068 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:45:01 -0400 Received: from OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 52dG1a01617UAYkA22kw7k; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:44:56 +0000 Received: from rmailcenter74.comcast.net ([204.127.197.156]) by OMTA13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 52kw1a0023Nwo3Q8Z2kwB8; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:44:56 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6eSfVJ7oOyEA:10 a=XUK-87w3Cz0A:10 a=GeqbvrhsAAAA:8 a=FyY7fbpmbHpL9wFEc6gA:9 a=qBXDr2m471GzpaY8T_sA:7 a=fVlPpVSqgavC2cxNqgXMS4Lb4AoA:4 a=RyDGidKqpxIA:10 a=MDABLX8d_eUA:10 a=rsfPTdSKCToA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=-ZQhYGXY2L8A:10 a=nVzJgapXHXUutgj8VusA:9 a=ro_jeI4e0EHPuoncWeGD800NaLIA:4 a=1m2o3fkUcNwA:10 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Received: from [70.167.18.29] by rmailcenter74.comcast.net; Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:44:54 +0000 From: wamwagner@comcast.net To: "Ira McDonald" , "Michael Sweet" , "Ira McDonald" Cc: "Whittle, Craig" , ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> Face-to-face meeting minutes posted Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:44:54 +0000 Message-Id: <082120081444.29246.48AD7F660009C96F0000723E22073000339D0A02090E99030E99@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: d2Ftd2FnbmVyQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29246_1219329894_0" Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29246_1219329894_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For clarification, since it may not have come out clearly in the minutes, I mixed things up a bit at the IPP meeting by suggesting that XPS should be given an enum for the printer MIB (along with asking how the WSD interface entry for the printer MIB was comming). There was no suggestion to standardize XPS for IPP. Indeed, as the minutes indicated, the identification of any required PDL for IPP was considered out of scope under the current project. It was pointed out that there is no problem in identifing XPS as a supported PDL in IPP. Bill Wagner -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Ira McDonald" > Hi Mike, > > I agree - the PWG hasn't ever standardized encumbered technology > and it shouldn't ever start doing so. > > Cheers, > - Ira > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: > > Ira McDonald wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> XPS - I agree with Mike that it's not appropriate as a required document > >> format for IPP right now. But it *is* being formally standardized in ECMA > >> Technical Committee 46: > >> > >> http://www.ecma-international.org/memento/TC46.htm > >> > >> And their current draft 1.2 is much improved from the earlier drafts > >> - worth watching. > > > > Unless the patent stuff is resolved to allow for open source/free > > software implementations, I would be opposed to adding it even if > > it gets an ECMA stamp of approval. > > > > -- > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System Engineer > > > > > > -- > Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) > Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG > Blue Roof Music/High North Inc > email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com > winter: > 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 > 734-944-0094 > summer: > PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 > 906-494-2434 --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29246_1219329894_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
For clarification, since it may not have come out clearly in the minutes,  I mixed things up a bit at the IPP meeting by suggesting that XPS should be given an enum for the printer MIB (along with asking how the WSD  interface entry for the printer MIB was comming). There was no suggestion to standardize XPS for IPP. Indeed, as the minutes indicated, the identification of any required PDL for IPP was considered out of scope under the current project. It was pointed out that there is no problem in identifing XPS as a supported PDL in IPP.
 
Bill Wagner
 
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Ira McDonald" <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>

> Hi Mike,
>
> I agree - the PWG hasn't ever standardized encumbered technology
> and it shouldn't ever start doing so.
>
> Cheers,
> - Ira
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Michael Sweet wrote:
> > Ira McDonald wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> XPS - I agree with Mike that it's not appropriate as a required document
> >> format for IPP right now. But it *is* being formally standardized in ECMA
> >> Technical Committee 46:
> >>
> >> http://www.ecma-international.org/memento/TC46.htm
> >>
> >> And their current draft 1.2 is much improved from the earlier drafts
! > &g t;> - worth watching.
> >
> > Unless the patent stuff is resolved to allow for open source/free
> > software implementations, I would be opposed to adding it even if
> > it gets an ECMA stamp of approval.
> >
> > --
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System Engineer
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)
> Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG
> Blue Roof Music/High North Inc
> email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com
> winter:
> 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176
> 734-944-0094
> summer:
> PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839
> 906-494-2434
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29246_1219329894_0-- From ipp-owner@pwg.org Fri Aug 22 10:24:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9183A6931 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:24:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.300, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5imRvJ3UDgoA for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:24:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050933A6943 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7MHORtu006976 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:24:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7MHONFv006962 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:24:27 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:23:10 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7MHN07h006445 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:23:02 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7MHN0SF006442 for ipp-outgoing; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:23:00 -0400 Received: from mail150.ricoh-usa-com (host150.ricoh-usa.com [208.252.21.150]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7MHMvLb006421 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:23:00 -0400 X-SEF-Processed: 5_0_0_816__2008_08_22_13_22_57 Received: from Unknown [172.16.19.238] by njwcntas37.us.ricoh.ds - SurfControl E-mail Filter ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:22:57 -0400 Subject: IPP> Reminder, IPPv2 Conference Call Monday (8/25) @ 4:00 PM EDT (1:00 PM PDT) To: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:22:53 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NJWC02/RCUS(Release 7.0.2FP1|January 10, 2007) at 08/22/2008 01:22:57 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org IPPv2 WG Conference Call: Monday, August 25, 2008, 4:00 PM EDT (1:00 PM PDT) Note we are using the NEW Teleconference number and a new access code. The new number and access code will no longer be published. Please contact me (email or phone) if you do not have the latest! Agenda: 1. Identify Minute Taker 2. Approval of minutes from 8/15 Face-2-Face meeting 3. Discussion of proposed IPPv2 Specification changes from Harry Lewis. This document is at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-wd/wd-ippv2-spec20-20080815HRL.doc 4. Specification Changes: Remove Section 6.3 Add text to section 7 Add text to section 9 5. New "Attributes Required section" Need volunteers and a schedule 6. New Business? Ron (805) 426 6559 (If no answer, leave a message at 805 426 6542) From ipp-owner@pwg.org Mon Aug 25 12:24:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB083A6989 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:24:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d2DDHYRIqDSL for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABFA3A6986 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7PJNrJh021081 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:23:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7PJNm3b021048 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:23:53 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:22:31 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7PJMLHY020453 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:22:23 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7PJMLq2020450 for ipp-outgoing; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:22:21 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7PJMHF1020420 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:22:20 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id x30so777581ugc.21 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:22:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WfBU5R9rYpOzpfkompiZHpbbMZfSqROMfa6jYXW6U+k=; b=s1Cm6/icqrIHHK8Wy0P6PCNpziR0c7lgsKofiZPYEE6ZEHamaPbkJrxCHA4l9jdKkU cgDu/8ctm7xj6/XqpVRcDH1LzPcCnDp9zG4p+Dm785EiMyf+snp15WCko4+HLZDsE5Bt TU4sI7FMI1Yayc24tyC5KMoogL3RnuGmwEmPo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=bNkFr6qy7/qWk53R9uuRGa3+nindqF/iMFGDlnGl2jE7eEK9w744i8y7Wyp1qgk1Sh 5QA4PeG+um60dC11gx4fESxM+5oUWp2/XkzCOAFLiQRO8ZT1t5xYj5C6pAOBDGTT4ft7 TNCer8MR8QAo0w7JZDa8p7g01l+umV2pq04v8= Received: by 10.210.65.17 with SMTP id n17mr2739899eba.80.1219691671520; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.38.10 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:14:31 -0400 From: "Ira McDonald" To: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com, "Ira McDonald" Subject: Re: IPP> Reminder, IPPv2 Conference Call Monday (8/25) @ 4:00 PM EDT (1:00 PM PDT) Cc: ipp@pwg.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi, Sorry I won't make this call - I've got a conflicting meeting. Cheers, - Ira On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:22 PM, wrote: > > IPPv2 WG Conference Call: > > Monday, August 25, 2008, 4:00 PM EDT (1:00 PM PDT) > > Note we are using the NEW Teleconference number and a new access code. > > The new number and access code will no longer be published. > Please contact me (email or phone) if you do not have the latest! > > Agenda: > 1. Identify Minute Taker > 2. Approval of minutes from 8/15 Face-2-Face meeting > 3. Discussion of proposed IPPv2 Specification changes from Harry Lewis. > This document is at: > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-wd/wd-ippv2-spec20-20080815HRL.doc > 4. Specification Changes: > Remove Section 6.3 > Add text to section 7 > Add text to section 9 > 5. New "Attributes Required section" > Need volunteers and a schedule > 6. New Business? > > Ron > (805) 426 6559 (If no answer, leave a message at 805 426 6542) > > > > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Aug 26 14:06:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B28B3A6C09 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:06:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.185 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EcnT2ZVE4R6C for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209853A6BD8 for ; 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charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org The conference call minutes are now available at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/IPPv2-ConCall-Minutes-20080825.pdf (.doc) From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Aug 26 15:09:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2186B3A6B32 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:09:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cE3EC05G5P22 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE753A6892 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7QM8ZXR032718 for ; 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bh=OwpkOlGj6dD4NBj1kaIrKr4QZ+K6xzPyTVuLWB+Ow+M=; b=fMkzRsIQPUow2eZDP9biWVyvC/wlv3SvtZZteHm8Usf3065Q6HyPqW5KIYhh0dVXQY 43N8Y+9DKEFBDE0VSvJCe1O3aL1Hv+E4QPKLSDVm8vbToYh/1a4ewz54j4awEa/riFZL izFaptHwO31uzgncvZS30j8HLgaevWcdEI7Bo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=oX3deAvTnW7iXB1+INSIaRk4jkiH5mdYyUWCY/bnncWhIzBoArTXD9/c0wjcsIpxPU yrp6CU3xJtsJs6MTpSgFMV9EsdvFPR+7ntdrcJIi4LDZOSkqWS9TZ4xZNfRNN5aXM8wj NUmV8nWbCQJ0Dxv0xPUW6J5FgQdlmfaqNZbl0= Received: by 10.210.54.19 with SMTP id c19mr2864011eba.195.1219788448406; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.38.10 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:07:28 -0400 From: "Ira McDonald" To: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com, "Ira McDonald" Subject: Re: IPP> Minutes Posted for 8/25 Conference Call Cc: ipp@pwg.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Hi Ron, One important clarification to this minutes - there is an IANA Registration Consideration (the three new values of ipp-versions-supported), as Mike Sweet has pointed out before. Cheers, - Ira On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 5:04 PM, wrote: > > The conference call minutes are now available at: > > ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-minutes/IPPv2-ConCall-Minutes-20080825.pdf > (.doc) > > > > -- Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music/High North Inc email: blueroofmusic@gmail.com winter: 579 Park Place Saline, MI 48176 734-944-0094 summer: PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434 From ipp-owner@pwg.org Tue Aug 26 18:23:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA12E3A68F3 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:23:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S9wLLJVry5LF for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F313A6A68 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7R1NGDx015469 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:23:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7R1NDcb015457 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:23:16 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:22:13 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7R1M97K015104 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:22:11 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7R1M98a015101 for ipp-outgoing; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:22:09 -0400 Received: from mail-out3.apple.com (mail-out3.apple.com [17.254.13.22]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7R1M65Q015084 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:22:08 -0400 Received: from relay11.apple.com (relay11.apple.com [17.128.113.48]) by mail-out3.apple.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA8F38664F1; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay11.apple.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by relay11.apple.com (Symantec Mail Security) with ESMTP id 4A4F328091; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:22:06 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: 11807130-ac395bb000000ead-4b-48b4ac3dd69c Received: from mbp.local (unknown [17.151.109.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by relay11.apple.com (Apple SCV relay) with ESMTP id 0717928042; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48B4AC3D.5080602@apple.com> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:22:05 -0700 From: Michael R Sweet Organization: Apple Inc. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ira McDonald CC: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com, ipp@pwg.org Subject: Re: IPP> Minutes Posted for 8/25 Conference Call References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org Ira McDonald wrote: > Hi Ron, > > One important clarification to this minutes - there is an IANA Registration > Consideration (the three new values of ipp-versions-supported), as Mike > Sweet has pointed out before. > ... Sorry, my fault - I forgot that keyword values were managed by IANA. ipp-versions-supported is indeed listed in the IPP registrations at: http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipp-registrations That appears to be the only consideration we need to list. -- ______________________________________________________________________ Michael R Sweet Senior Printing System Engineer From ipp-owner@pwg.org Wed Aug 27 15:38:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D010E3A6907 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:38:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.092 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.092 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.093, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wP-YUQBTAah6 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDFB3A68FE for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7RMc8D5008308 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:38:10 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7RMc4Cq008286 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:38:08 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:36:56 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7RMajID007912 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:36:47 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7RMajQn007909 for ipp-outgoing; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:36:45 -0400 Received: from mail150.ricoh-usa-com (host150.ricoh-usa.com [208.252.21.150]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7RMahhN007902 for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:36:45 -0400 X-SEF-Processed: 5_0_0_816__2008_08_27_18_36_42 Received: from Unknown [172.16.19.238] by njwcntas37.us.ricoh.ds - SurfControl E-mail Filter ; Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:36:42 -0400 Subject: IPP> New IPPv2 Specifications To: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.4 March 27, 2005 Message-ID: From: Ron.Bergman@ricoh-usa.com Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:36:35 -0700 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NJWC02/RCUS(Release 7.0.2FP1|January 10, 2007) at 08/27/2008 06:36:42 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-ipp@pwg.org I have updated the spec recently posted by Harry Lewis to include this change as an offical step in the progression of the IPPv2 document. It can be found at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-wd/wd-ippv2-spec20-20080815.pdf (.doc) Also, a new draft containing the changes discussed in the F2F and this weeks teleconference is now available at: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/ippv2-wd/wd-ippv2-spec20-20080827.pdf (.doc) From pwg-announce-owner@pwg.org Thu Aug 28 10:54:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05093A69A6; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:54:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.421 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.421 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, SARE_GIF_ATTACH=1.42] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MHYcDzwiAMzX; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (www.pwg.org [192.146.101.49]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5503928C2EA; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7SHs69s027554; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:54:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id m7SHs3RU027541; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:54:06 -0400 Received: by pwg.org (bulk_mailer v1.13); Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:52:04 -0400 Received: from pwg.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pwg.org with ESMTP id m7SHq08C026676 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:52:02 -0400 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by pwg.org (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m7SHq0TE026673 for pwg-announce-out; Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:52:00 -0400 Subject: PWG-ANNOUNCE> PWG 5106.3-2008 - Imaging State & Counter MIB v2 (location change) To: pwg-announce@pwg.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.5 November 30, 2005 Message-ID: From: Jerry Thrasher Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:51:48 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on smtp5b/Lex/Lexmark(Release 6.5.5|November 30, 2005) at 08/28/2008 13:51:53 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=0ABBFE20DFF2F8158f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFE20DFF2F815" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pwg-announce@pwg.org --0__=0ABBFE20DFF2F8158f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBFE20DFF2F815 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII The original announcement of the availability of the Imaging State and Counter MIB v2 contains an incorrect link to the location (and name) of the Candidate Standard document. The link to the file containing the actual MIB is correct. The correct links for both are: ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-wimscountmib20-20080318-5106.3.pdf (doc) ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/candidates/cs-wimscountmib20-20080318-5106.3.mib Jerry Thrasher Printer Working Group Chair Senior Engineer, WW Corporate Standards Lexmark International Inc. Ph:859-825-4056, Fax:859-232-7628 Email:thrasher(at)lexmark(dot)com ----- Forwarded by Jerry Thrasher/Lex/Lexmark on 08/28/2008 01:44 PM ----- Harry Lewis To Sent by: pwg-announce@pwg.org owner-pwg-announc cc e@pwg.org Subject PWG-ANNOUNCE> Announcing PWG 06/03/2008 04:37 Candidate Standard 5106.3-2008 - PM Imaging State & Counter MIB v2 In March 2008 the PWG Imaging State & Counter MIB v2 was formally approved and accepted as PWG Candidate Standard 5106.3-2008. This new Candidate Standard represents the work product of the PWG WIMS Working Group under the Chairmanship of Bill Wagner (TIC), Co-Chair/Secretary Craig Whittle (Sharp), Lead Editor Ira McDonald (High North) and with help from many PWG members as cited in the standard. You can obtain a copy of the standard at ftp://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/standards/pwg5106.3.pdf. 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