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boundary="===============0348463598514669450==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============0348463598514669450== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E32ED30F-9D24-43E4-997C-F6F29C333C1C"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_E32ED30F-9D24-43E4-997C-F6F29C333C1C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK, new draft posted and will be announced separately. Smith > On Aug 28, 2018, at 6:06 AM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architect) wrote: >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > I have posted a new "Initial Draft" of IPP Job and Printer Extensions = Set 2 v2 (JPS2v2). This was created using the published final PDF draft = to ensure a start from the wording that was finalized. I have made a = number of editorial changes that are all preserved in the -rev version = in case there are objections. The primary set of changes involved moving = all the Printer Description attributes out of sub-sections of the "Job = Template" section to the "Printer Description Attributes" section. >=20 > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext20-20180828.docx > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext20-20180828.pdf > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext20-20180828-rev.docx= > = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext20-20180828-rev.pdf >=20 > I propose using this as our starting point, but please chime in if you = don't like how this was produced. I will separately post slides to = facilitate discussion about the changes HP would like to see in JPS2v2. >=20 > Cheers, > Smith >=20 > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp --Apple-Mail=_E32ED30F-9D24-43E4-997C-F6F29C333C1C Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMbzCCBiww ggUUoAMCAQICEERH5SPSzVXgy10mZYbUYM8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwgaYxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVT MQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZIUCBJbmMxHzAdBgNVBAsTFlN5bWFudGVjIFRydXN0IE5ldHdvcmsxNTAzBgNV BAsTLENsYXNzIDIgTWFuYWdlZCBQS0kgSW5kaXZpZHVhbCBTdWJzY3JpYmVyIENBMS4wLAYDVQQD 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mvRZaMxGZPqbqJ4wUiHnSkuNh5MsA+rlNt+kAHwM7mu2DtK1EsIAdzQesXyUgEBdc6o/aM0ciOYsSdJbqJbzAqh/TEmryVYqbVeQAjKKYTrfsCDagoltJLISu2GQU3+fgqy7FgSWwf89MfT1eo+EO24HxqXqlxk3WUNaFvTpL/5zbHtxzkOvsKoteZ+PinQECV/8myGxv+WXu3/P5eLw9HG9t1T1hJ/yoRe8e93eWuMgphF84OyH4ZtcmKxGUyCdsD46DVK6F91054SNIZgIHzt99Zc6/iqAZgjxfeRJ9BPytNV1pLQOpySdhJrxMllBY06H/nJmTYnuhWYTmD+/YWUFs+sLZ/moCSGz84xm+BI= spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 7e01baae-7e23-4268-03ba-08d61299ce25 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 04 Sep 2018 19:08:31.6863 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CS1PR8401MB0822 Subject: [IPP] JPS2 v2.0 : New initial draft posted X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3339843243681295771==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3339843243681295771== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_96FB3466-C758-4F69-A09F-DC2FDD662C43"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_96FB3466-C758-4F69-A09F-DC2FDD662C43 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I have fixed all the structural issues Mike had pointed out earlier, and = fixed a bunch of other editorial issues, so here is the "new initial = draft" of JPS2 v2.0: = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext2v20-20180904.pdf = https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippjobprinterext2v20-20180904.docx The Word copy was annotated with a number of editorial questions. Once = we have established that a particular draft is satisfactory to begin new = work, I'll start publishing -rev copies as well. 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l09z9wgGCkRzjUHPh3F+BSlli63aIk1mg9dGo6OIdgg3a8SxO+UgPmdMOlf8Kq4TIJtMiNPDFkAK8xQcayNbNIbfCuMkBKLmFiGz+I4+6GJgLdlGdrlVpRbwEKtxLlSJmBJIrSZRzAgIKYkGwi3Rr6fYeeSzCSCmPn8M86K1SYpBXENLCZz22coszQqoo8GsHRJItZSYtjEyB0NK6sb2zDJ67lKP7rhycPRJNJ0OMo8a+gzwNu0heUKvseG3Rdrh1Ew7YWYWgkmS7Tub1ZjE/Zn93qcA0teO2ej1qrqVHY377II3QdKFY5SjN33YWxT6K5wOGIoa5ddu84DNmaf9EPddcW5GX5v5sbx1Ti3DR1k= spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: ff179d58-794a-4b4a-4ab0-08d612dd1acb X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 05 Sep 2018 03:10:16.5325 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CS1PR8401MB1126 Cc: PWG Workgroup Subject: Re: [IPP] Minutes posted from this week's IPP F2F meetings X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4245393683479357777==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============4245393683479357777== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7E1BC88E-2F92-4A69-84D3-C93B384883B2"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_7E1BC88E-2F92-4A69-84D3-C93B384883B2 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DBD60874-8067-4832-8DA0-3A56ED541AFF" --Apple-Mail=_DBD60874-8067-4832-8DA0-3A56ED541AFF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi there, On the action item about searching the IETF OAuth Workgroup minutes from = IETF 102 to see whether there was anything germane to "IPP = Authentication Methods", their Minutes page = (https://tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/minutes = ) says this: IETF-102 oauth minutes Sorry, no minutes available as of today. Either no meeting was held, or = the document has not yet been submitted. So the answer appears to be "no". Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ > On Aug 16, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > All, >=20 > I have posted the minutes for this week's IPP workgroup F2F meetings = to: >=20 > https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20180815.pdf = >=20 > Our next conference call is on August 30, 2018 at 3pm ET. >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >=20 > _______________________________________________ > ipp mailing list > ipp@pwg.org > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp = = --Apple-Mail=_DBD60874-8067-4832-8DA0-3A56ED541AFF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Hi = there,

On the action = item about searching the IETF OAuth Workgroup minutes from IETF 102 to = see whether there was anything germane to "IPP Authentication Methods", = their Minutes page (https://tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/minutes) says = this:

IETF-102 oauth minutes

Sorry, no minutes available as of today. Either = no meeting was held, or the document has not yet been = submitted.

So the answer appears = to be "no".

Smith

/**
  =   Smith Kennedy
    Wireless & = Standards Architect - IPG-PPS
    Standards - = IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / = USB-IF
    Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working = Group
    HP Inc.
*/



On Aug 16, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Michael Sweet <msweet@apple.com> = wrote:

All,

I have posted the minutes for this week's IPP workgroup F2F meetings = to:

https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20180= 815.pdf

Our next conference call is on August 30, 2018 at 3pm ET.

_________________________________________________________
Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer

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ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CS1PR8401MB0806 Subject: [IPP] Updated IPP Authentication Methods draft posted for review X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5128246170847183482==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5128246170847183482== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_714823F7-33C9-48DC-A8C4-D511C87EE3CD"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_714823F7-33C9-48DC-A8C4-D511C87EE3CD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings, I've just posted another draft of IPP Authentication Methods, now = refactored as a "Best Practices" document as per the last review at the = August 2018 F2F: https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20180905.pdf https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20180905.odt https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20180905-rev.odt https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/wd/wd-ippauth-20180905-rev.pdf Cheers, Smith /** Smith Kennedy Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group HP Inc. */ --Apple-Mail=_714823F7-33C9-48DC-A8C4-D511C87EE3CD Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMbzCCBiww ggUUoAMCAQICEERH5SPSzVXgy10mZYbUYM8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwgaYxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVT MQ8wDQYDVQQKEwZIUCBJbmMxHzAdBgNVBAsTFlN5bWFudGVjIFRydXN0IE5ldHdvcmsxNTAzBgNV BAsTLENsYXNzIDIgTWFuYWdlZCBQS0kgSW5kaXZpZHVhbCBTdWJzY3JpYmVyIENBMS4wLAYDVQQD 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" Smith, It looks like they uploaded their minutes to the meeting materials page instead... :/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/session/oauth/ Looking through the minutes there the only things that seem vaguely relevant are the ACE-OAuth work (from the Authorization for Constrained Environments (ACE) workgroup): https://tools.ietf.org/wg/ace/ https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz and the security best practices document from the OAuth workgroup: https://tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/ https://tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/draft-ietf-oauth-security-topics/ > On Sep 4, 2018, at 11:10 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards Architect) wrote: > > Hi there, > > On the action item about searching the IETF OAuth Workgroup minutes from IETF 102 to see whether there was anything germane to "IPP Authentication Methods", their Minutes page (https://tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/minutes) says this: > > IETF-102 oauth minutes > Sorry, no minutes available as of today. Either no meeting was held, or the document has not yet been submitted. > > So the answer appears to be "no". > > Smith > > /** > Smith Kennedy > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC Forum / USB-IF > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > HP Inc. > */ > > > >> On Aug 16, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >> >> All, >> >> I have posted the minutes for this week's IPP workgroup F2F meetings to: >> >> https://ftp.pwg.org/pub/pwg/ipp/minutes/ippv2-f2f-minutes-20180815.pdf >> >> Our next conference call is on August 30, 2018 at 3pm ET. >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipp mailing list >> ipp@pwg.org >> https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp > _________________________________________________________ Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer _______________________________________________ ipp mailing list ipp@pwg.org https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp From ipp-bounces@pwg.org Thu Sep 6 09:57:39 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-ipp-archive@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDD4130ED6 for ; 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boundary="===============3005513963310604557==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============3005513963310604557== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_21A1A9B7-D3C8-47EE-82E1-6AE806D0D98E"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_21A1A9B7-D3C8-47EE-82E1-6AE806D0D98E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Mike, Answers to your questions below. If we are good with my resolutions, I = will resend the request in an approvable state. Smith > On Aug 28, 2018, at 4:46 PM, Michael Sweet wrote: >=20 > Smith, >=20 > > On Aug 28, 2018, at 3:20 PM, Kennedy, Smith (Wireless & Standards = Architect) wrote: > >=20 > > Greetings, > >=20 > > HP Inc. requests the registration of 5 IPP attributes defined in the = "Wi-Fi Peer-to-Peer Services Print (P2Ps-Print) Technical Specification = v1.1" relating to the PCLm document format definition therein. The = "Wi-Fi Peer-to-Peer Services Print (P2Ps-Print) Technical Specification = v1.1" is one of the files in the "Wi-Fi Peer-to-Peer Services Technical = Specification Package v1.2" available here: = https://www.wi-fi.org/file/wi-fi-peer-to-peer-services-technical-specifica= tion-package-v12 > >=20 > > These are the attributes to be registered with accompanying section = numbers from the source specification where they were defined: > >=20 > > Job Template Attributes: > > --------------------------------- > >=20 > > 3.12.4 pclm-raster-back-side (keyword) > > This Job Template attribute specifies the bitmap coordinate system = for > > the back side of duplex sheets and the following keyword values are > > defined: > >=20 > > +---------+------------------+-------------------+ > > | KEYWORD | LONG EDGE ORIGIN | SHORT EDGE ORIGIN | > > +---------+------------------+-------------------+ > > | Normal | top-left | top-left | > > | Rotated | bottom-right | top-left | > > | Flipped | bottom-left | top-right | > > +---------+------------------+-------------------+ >=20 > Keyword values need to be lowercase to be registered... No problem - let's change it to this: +---------+------------------+-------------------+ | KEYWORD | LONG EDGE ORIGIN | SHORT EDGE ORIGIN | +---------+------------------+-------------------+ | normal | top-left | top-left | | rotated | bottom-right | top-left | | flipped | bottom-left | top-right | +---------+------------------+-------------------+ > Also, is this really a Job Template attribute? How does a Client know = which coordinate system to use for a given Printer? Nope, this was my mistake. This "pclm-raster-back-side" attribute is a = Printer Description attribute. >=20 > > 3.12.8 pclm-source-resolution (resolution) > > This attribute specifies the source resolution of the current job. > > Resolution is specified in dots-per-inch. >=20 > I'm not sure how I feel about forcing the units - the resolution = syntax supports both dots-per-inch and dots-per-centimeter... >=20 > (not that it matters for the registration - the Printer will tell the = Client which values it will support...) That's fine, we can remove that line from the registration. >=20 > > Printer Description Attributes > > --------------------------------- > >=20 > > 3.12.9 pclm-source-resolution-supported (1setOf resolution) > > This attribute enumerates the printer=E2=80=99s supported source = resolutions > > (specific to PCLm). Specifies the resolution or range of source > > resolutions supported by the printer. The return value(s) shall be = in > > dots-per-inch. Typically, a printer will produce better resolution = and > > perform better when the source and printer resolution are equal. >=20 > See above. Will resolve as for palm-source-resolution. >=20 > > 3.12.10 pclm-strip-height-preferred (integer) > > This attribute specifies the preferred strip height for the printer = for > > jobs that have PCLm document format. >=20 > Height in pixels/lines, right? No, height as defined in palm-strip-height-supported - preferred strip = height =3D page height / pclm-strip-height-preferred >=20 > > 3.12.11 pclm-strip-height-supported (1setOf integer) > > This attribute specifies the strip/swath height that the printer > > requires. If non-zero, the Strip Height shall be a power of 2 and = shall > > not be less than 16. The strip height is specified in source space > > coordinates. This attribute is only required for PCLm jobs. Strip = height > > is relative to page i.e. if 16 means strip height is =3D page = length/16. >=20 > "Source space coordinates" =3D=3D "pixels/lines"? >=20 > > A return value of 0 indicates that the entire page should be = delivered to > > the printer as a single strip, e.g. strip height is equal to the = page > > height, resulting in a strip count of 1. A strip height of 1 also produces the same result. > >=20 > > The default for a printer shall be 16. As we discussed, this line can be removed from the registration. > >=20 > >=20 > > Cheers, > > Smith > >=20 > > /** > > Smith Kennedy > > Wireless & Standards Architect - IPG-PPS > > Standards - IEEE ISTO PWG / Bluetooth SIG / Wi-Fi Alliance / NFC = Forum / USB-IF > > Chair, IEEE ISTO Printer Working Group > > HP Inc. > > */ > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > ipp mailing list > > ipp@pwg.org > > https://www.pwg.org/mailman/listinfo/ipp >=20 > _________________________________________________________ > Michael Sweet, Senior Printing System Engineer --Apple-Mail=_21A1A9B7-D3C8-47EE-82E1-6AE806D0D98E Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIMbzCCBiww ggUUoAMCAQICEERH5SPSzVXgy10mZYbUYM8wDQYJKoZIhvcNAQELBQAwgaYxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVT 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7rmzxrifbphaTITzp6WV660QWxzrrWIzMa5LXr9mOQ06BkoqWD6Kn9VXpjFxEgBTlfZL1KFwSQt749Ei0P84Av9HJt65HjJZfZgHHD0e23n26sbcpoCHb9tFMu2qpNJzYY2Mu4ek+uiICbFJcKSvBpfqOVaqD2EmV4UzgfccQbkP8x51azX1YY97zV+5EIsPQARsoovDJkmHtiykFJgMF95/W9OLi2I3bPX2+IYAWOFFOLASwGkRBHFW6M+K+TXMcyNDXUIdP2Ag5g5B4oxsWePtwdghtj+3rWlXGM2b4xDC5SJh1A2jkYOYSOfss1YpLEKqc0lMNrPQd5dm1isn5NM4wl3mQTUyHdJE6c8CzJM= spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: hp.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 689dcf75-9bb6-4a34-54ac-08d614fa9268 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 07 Sep 2018 19:46:14.9794 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: ca7981a2-785a-463d-b82a-3db87dfc3ce6 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CS1PR8401MB1128 Subject: [IPP] Registration request (#2) for attributes from "Wi-Fi Peer-to-Peer Services Print (P2Ps-Print) Technical Specification v1.1" for PCLm X-BeenThere: ipp@pwg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: ISTO-PWG Internet Printing Protocol workgroup discussion forum List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5760113884064878900==" Errors-To: ipp-bounces@pwg.org Sender: "ipp" --===============5760113884064878900== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_3FB76E59-C930-4316-AC83-9D0C573B1FCC"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 --Apple-Mail=_3FB76E59-C930-4316-AC83-9D0C573B1FCC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Greetings, HP Inc. requests the registration of the following 5 IPP attributes: Job Template attributes: Reference ------------------------------- --------- pclm-source-resolution (resolution) = [WiFiDirectPrint] Printer Description attributes: Reference ------------------------------- --------- pclm-raster-back-side (keyword) = [WiFiDirectPrint] pclm-source-resolution-supported (1setOf resolution) = [WiFiDirectPrint] pclm-strip-height-preferred (1setOf integer) = [WiFiDirectPrint] pclm-strip-height-supported (integer) = [WiFiDirectPrint] Attributes (attribute syntax) Keyword Attribute Value Reference ------------------------------- --------- pclm-raster-back-side (keyword) = [WiFiDirectPrint] normal = [WiFiDirectPrint] rotated = [WiFiDirectPrint] flipped = [WiFiDirectPrint] =20 =20 [WiFiDirectPrint] - Wi-Fi Alliance, "Wi-Fi Peer-to-Peer Services Print = (P2Ps-Print) Technical Specification Version 1.1", = https://www.wi-fi.org/file/wi-fi-peer-to-peer-services-technical-specifica= tion-package-v12 Here are the backing definitions: Job Template Attributes: --------------------------------- 3.12.8 pclm-source-resolution (resolution) This attribute specifies the source resolution of the PCLm Document for the Job. Printer Description Attributes --------------------------------- 3.12.4 pclm-raster-back-side (keyword) This attribute specifies the bitmap coordinate system for the back side of duplex sheets and the following keyword values are defined: +---------+------------------+-------------------+ | KEYWORD | LONG EDGE ORIGIN | SHORT EDGE ORIGIN | +---------+------------------+-------------------+ | normal | top-left | top-left | | rotated | bottom-right | top-left | | flipped | bottom-left | top-right | +---------+------------------+-------------------+ 3.12.9 pclm-source-resolution-supported (1setOf resolution) This attribute enumerates the printer=E2=80=99s supported source = resolutions (specific to PCLm). Specifies the resolution or range of source resolutions supported by the printer. Typically, a printer will = produce better resolution and perform better when the source and printer resolution are equal. 3.12.10 pclm-strip-height-preferred (integer) This attribute specifies the Printer's preferred strip height for Jobs that use the PCLm document format. 3.12.11 pclm-strip-height-supported (1setOf integer) This attribute specifies the strip/swath heights that the Printer supports. Each non-zero strip height value MUST be a power of 2 and = MUST NOT be less than 16. The strip height is specified in source space coordinates. This attribute is only required for PCLm jobs. Strip = height is relative to page i.e. if 16 means strip height is =3D page = length/16. A return value of 0 indicates that the entire page should be delivered to the printer as a single strip, e.g. strip height is = equal to the page height, resulting in a strip count of 1. 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