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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol WG of the IETF.

        Title           : Publish/Subscribe Functionality for LISP
        Authors         : Alberto Rodriguez-Natal
                          Vina Ermagan
                          Albert Cabellos
                          Sharon Barkai
                          Mohamed Boucadair
	Filename        : draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub-07.txt
	Pages           : 12
	Date            : 2021-01-08

Abstract:
   This document specifies an extension to the use of Map-Request to
   enable Publish/Subscribe (PubSub) operation for LISP.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol WG of the IETF.

        Title           : LISP-Security (LISP-SEC)
        Authors         : Fabio Maino
                          Vina Ermagan
                          Albert Cabellos
                          Damien Saucez
	Filename        : draft-ietf-lisp-sec-22.txt
	Pages           : 27
	Date            : 2021-01-12

Abstract:
   This memo specifies LISP-SEC, a set of security mechanisms that
   provides origin authentication, integrity and anti-replay protection
   to LISP's EID-to-RLOC mapping data conveyed via mapping lookup
   process.  LISP-SEC also enables verification of authorization on EID-
   prefix claims in Map-Reply messages.



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Hi All,

The authors of  draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub submitted a new version =
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This email open the usual two weeks Working Group Last Call, to end =
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Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that it =
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All,</span><div class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><font =
color=3D"#000000" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" =
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Neue" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: =
rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85);" class=3D"">draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub&nbsp;submitted a =
new version addressing the issues raised during SECDIR =
review.</span></font></div><div class=3D""><font color=3D"#000000" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"">The =
document seems mature and stable and authors are asking for formal WG =
Last Call.</span></font></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, =
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rgb(0, 0, 0);">NOTE: silence IS NOT consensus!</div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" =
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Support!

I think LISP as shown you can build overlays without resorting to circuit-sw=
itched controllers by using the mapping system. This mechanism makes the map=
ping effect quicker to respond to changes by adding pub-sub proven scalabili=
ty.

--szb
Cell: +972.53.2470068
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> On Jan 13, 2021, at 09:20, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFHi All,
>=20
> The authors of  draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub submitted a new version addressing t=
he issues raised during SECDIR review.
> The document seems mature and stable and authors are asking for formal WG L=
ast Call.
>=20
> This email open the usual two weeks Working Group Last Call, to end Januar=
y 28th, 2021.
>=20
> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that it is=
 ready to be handed over to the AD.
> If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain what it=
 would take to address your concerns.
>=20
> NOTE: silence IS NOT consensus!
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> Luigi & Joel
> _______________________________________________
> lisp mailing list
> lisp@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Support!<div><br></div><div>I think LISP as=
 shown you can build overlays without resorting to circuit-switched controll=
ers by using the mapping system. This mechanism makes the mapping effect qui=
cker to respond to changes by adding pub-sub proven scalability.<br><br><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">--szb<div>Cell: +972.53.2470068</div><div>WhatsApp: +1.650.492.=
0794</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 13, 20=
21, at 09:20, Luigi Iannone &lt;ggx@gigix.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote=
></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D=
"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"><span style=3D"care=
t-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"">Hi All,</span><div c=
lass=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br clas=
s=3D""></div><div class=3D""><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D""><span style=3D=
"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"">The authors of &nbsp;</span></font><=
font face=3D"Helvetica Neue" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0=
, 0); color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85);" class=3D"">draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub&nbsp;su=
bmitted a new version addressing the issues raised during SECDIR review.</sp=
an></font></div><div class=3D""><font color=3D"#000000" class=3D""><span sty=
le=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"">The document seems mature and s=
table and authors are asking for formal WG Last Call.</span></font></div><di=
v class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(=
0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">This email open the usual two weeks Working G=
roup Last Call, to end January 28th, 2021.</div><div class=3D"" style=3D"car=
et-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class=3D""></div><div clas=
s=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div class=3D"" style=3D"color: r=
gb(0, 0, 0);"><div class=3D"">Please review this WG document and let the WG k=
now if you agree that it is ready to be handed over to the AD.</div></div><d=
iv class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">If you have objections, please s=
tate your reasons why, and explain what it would take to address your concer=
ns.</div><div class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class=3D""></div=
><div class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">NOTE: silence IS NOT consens=
us!</div><div class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class=3D""></div=
><div class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div class=3D"">Thanks</div>=
</div><div class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font color=3D"#00afcd"=
 class=3D""><br class=3D""></font>Luigi &amp; Joel</div></div><span>________=
_______________________________________</span><br><span>lisp mailing list</s=
pan><br><span>lisp@ietf.org</span><br><span>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/lis=
tinfo/lisp</span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>=

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I believe the document is ready.

Jordi

El 13/1/2021 a les 8:19, Luigi Iannone ha escrit:
> Hi All,
>
> The authors of draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub submitted a new version 
> addressing the issues raised during SECDIR review.
> The document seems mature and stable and authors are asking for formal 
> WG Last Call.
>
> This email open the usual two weeks Working Group Last Call, to end 
> January 28th, 2021.
>
> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that 
> it is ready to be handed over to the AD.
> If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain 
> what it would take to address your concerns.
>
> NOTE: silence IS NOT consensus!
>
> Thanks
>
> Luigi & Joel
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    <p>I believe the document is ready.</p>
    <p>Jordi</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 13/1/2021 a les 8:19, Luigi Iannone
      ha escrit:<br>
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      <div class=""><font class="" color="#000000"><span
            style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">The authors of  </span></font><font
          class="" face="Helvetica Neue"><span style="caret-color:
            rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.85);" class="">draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub submitted
            a new version addressing the issues raised during SECDIR
            review.</span></font></div>
      <div class=""><font class="" color="#000000"><span
            style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">The document
            seems mature and stable and authors are asking for formal WG
            Last Call.</span></font></div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0,
        0);">This email open the usual two weeks Working Group Last
        Call, to end January 28th, 2021.</div>
      <div class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0,
        0);"><br class="">
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      <div class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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          <div class="">Please review this WG document and let the WG
            know if you agree that it is ready to be handed over to the
            AD.</div>
        </div>
        <div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">If you have
          objections, please state your reasons why, and explain what it
          would take to address your concerns.</div>
        <div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">NOTE: silence IS NOT
          consensus!</div>
        <div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class="">
        </div>
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          <div class="">Thanks</div>
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> As a contributor I support handing this draft to the AD. 

Me too.

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I agree it is ready.

Albert L.

On 13/1/21 8:19, Luigi Iannone wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> The authors of draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub submitted a new version 
> addressing the issues raised during SECDIR review.
> The document seems mature and stable and authors are asking for formal 
> WG Last Call.
>
> This email open the usual two weeks Working Group Last Call, to end 
> January 28th, 2021.
>
> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that 
> it is ready to be handed over to the AD.
> If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain 
> what it would take to address your concerns.
>
> NOTE: silence IS NOT consensus!
>
> Thanks
>
> Luigi & Joel
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I agree it is ready.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Albert L.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/1/21 8:19, Luigi Iannone wrote:<br>
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      <div class=""><font class="" color="#000000"><span
            style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">The authors of  </span></font><font
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            a new version addressing the issues raised during SECDIR
            review.</span></font></div>
      <div class=""><font class="" color="#000000"><span
            style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class="">The document
            seems mature and stable and authors are asking for formal WG
            Last Call.</span></font></div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0,
        0);">This email open the usual two weeks Working Group Last
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      <div class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0,
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          <div class="">Please review this WG document and let the WG
            know if you agree that it is ready to be handed over to the
            AD.</div>
        </div>
        <div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">If you have
          objections, please state your reasons why, and explain what it
          would take to address your concerns.</div>
        <div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class="">
        </div>
        <div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">NOTE: silence IS NOT
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        <div class="" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class="">
        </div>
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          <div class="">Thanks</div>
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Hi,

I think the document is ready to be handed to the AD.

Best regards,
-Lori

On 1/13/21 8:20 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:
Hi All,

The authors of  draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub submitted a new version addressing t=
he issues raised during SECDIR review.
The document seems mature and stable and authors are asking for formal WG L=
ast Call.

This email open the usual two weeks Working Group Last Call, to end January=
 28th, 2021.

Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that it is =
ready to be handed over to the AD.
If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain what it =
would take to address your concerns.

NOTE: silence IS NOT consensus!

Thanks

Luigi & Joel


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Hi,<br>
<br>
I think the document is ready to be handed to the AD.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
-Lori<br>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 1/13/21 8:20 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote:<br>
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<div class=3D""><font class=3D"" color=3D"#000000"><span style=3D"caret-col=
or: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"">The document seems mature and stable and auth=
ors are asking for formal WG Last Call.</span></font></div>
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<div class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0,=0A=
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<div class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<div class=3D"">Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you a=
gree that it is ready to be handed over to the AD.</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">If you have objections, plea=
se state your reasons why, and explain what it would take to address your c=
oncerns.</div>
<div class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class=3D"">
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<div class=3D"" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">NOTE: silence IS NOT consens=
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<div class=3D"">Thanks</div>
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Just poking my nose in here, this is a cool draft. I say, go for it.  =
Depending on implementation, it may address the very problem I was =
attempting to solve with NERD: that first dropped packet.

I have one small suggestion and a question:

The suggestion:

It would be useful to discuss what statistics should be kept when =
experimenting.  Specifically: number of subscribes (prior to or after =
the first time one saw an EID), the number of map updates over time =
(I=E2=80=99m betting there=E2=80=99s a lot of stability out there, but =
that=E2=80=99s just me), number of subscribers.

The question:

How would an xTR UNsubscribe from mapping notifications?  I would =
imagine this would amount to a new map request that clears the N bit for =
appropriate EID-Records?

Eliot



> On 13 Jan 2021, at 08:19, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net =
<mailto:ggx@gigix.net>> wrote:
>=20
> Hi All,
>=20
> The authors of  draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub submitted a new version =
addressing the issues raised during SECDIR review.
> The document seems mature and stable and authors are asking for formal =
WG Last Call.
>=20
> This email open the usual two weeks Working Group Last Call, to end =
January 28th, 2021.
>=20
> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that =
it is ready to be handed over to the AD.
> If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain =
what it would take to address your concerns.
>=20
> NOTE: silence IS NOT consensus!
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> Luigi & Joel
> _______________________________________________
> lisp mailing list
> lisp@ietf.org <mailto:lisp@ietf.org>
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp


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content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap:=
 break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Just poking my nose in here, this is a cool draft. I say, go =
for it. &nbsp;Depending on implementation, it may address the very =
problem I was attempting to solve with NERD: that first dropped =
packet.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I have one =
small suggestion and a question:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The suggestion:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It would be useful to discuss what =
statistics should be kept when experimenting. &nbsp;Specifically: number =
of subscribes (prior to or after the first time one saw an EID), the =
number of map updates over time (I=E2=80=99m betting there=E2=80=99s a =
lot of stability out there, but that=E2=80=99s just me), number of =
subscribers.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The=
 question:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">How =
would an xTR UNsubscribe from mapping notifications? &nbsp;I would =
imagine this would amount to a new map request that clears the N bit for =
appropriate EID-Records?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Eliot</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On 13 Jan 2021, at 08:19, Luigi Iannone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ggx@gigix.net" class=3D"">ggx@gigix.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
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class=3D""><font class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" =
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Neue" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" =
class=3D"">draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub&nbsp;submitted a new version =
addressing the issues raised during SECDIR =
review.</span></font></div><div class=3D""><font class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"">The document seems =
mature and stable and authors are asking for formal WG Last =
Call.</span></font></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">This email open the =
usual two weeks Working Group Last Call, to end January 28th, =
2021.</div><div class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0);"><div class=3D"" style=3D""><div class=3D"">Please review this WG =
document and let the WG know if you agree that it is ready to be handed =
over to the AD.</div></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"">If you have =
objections, please state your reasons why, and explain what it would =
take to address your concerns.</div><div class=3D"" style=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"">NOTE: silence IS NOT =
consensus!</div><div class=3D"" style=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D""><div class=3D"">Thanks</div></div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D""><font color=3D"#00afcd" class=3D""><br class=3D""></font>Luigi =
&amp; =
Joel</div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br =
class=3D"">lisp mailing list<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:lisp@ietf.org" class=3D"">lisp@ietf.org</a><br =
class=3D""><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp" =
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Just poking my nose in here, this is a cool draft. I say, go for it.  =
Depending on implementation, it may address the very problem I was =
attempting to solve with NERD: that first dropped packet.

I have one small suggestion and a question:

The suggestion:

It would be useful to discuss what statistics should be kept when =
experimenting.  Specifically: number of subscribes (prior to or after =
the first time one saw an EID), the number of map updates over time =
(I=E2=80=99m betting there=E2=80=99s a lot of stability out there, but =
that=E2=80=99s just me), number of subscribers.

The question:

How would an xTR UNsubscribe from mapping notifications?  I would =
imagine this would amount to a new map request that clears the N bit for =
appropriate EID-Records?

Eliot



> On 13 Jan 2021, at 08:19, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net =
<mailto:ggx@gigix.net>> wrote:
>=20
> Hi All,
>=20
> The authors of  draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub submitted a new version =
addressing the issues raised during SECDIR review.
> The document seems mature and stable and authors are asking for formal =
WG Last Call.
>=20
> This email open the usual two weeks Working Group Last Call, to end =
January 28th, 2021.
>=20
> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that =
it is ready to be handed over to the AD.
> If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain =
what it would take to address your concerns.
>=20
> NOTE: silence IS NOT consensus!
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> Luigi & Joel
> _______________________________________________
> lisp mailing list
> lisp@ietf.org <mailto:lisp@ietf.org>
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"content-isolator__container"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" =
content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap:=
 break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Just poking my nose in here, this is a cool draft. I say, go =
for it. &nbsp;Depending on implementation, it may address the very =
problem I was attempting to solve with NERD: that first dropped =
packet.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I have one =
small suggestion and a question:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The suggestion:</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It would be useful to discuss what =
statistics should be kept when experimenting. &nbsp;Specifically: number =
of subscribes (prior to or after the first time one saw an EID), the =
number of map updates over time (I=E2=80=99m betting there=E2=80=99s a =
lot of stability out there, but that=E2=80=99s just me), number of =
subscribers.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The=
 question:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">How =
would an xTR UNsubscribe from mapping notifications? &nbsp;I would =
imagine this would amount to a new map request that clears the N bit for =
appropriate EID-Records?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Eliot</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On 13 Jan 2021, at 08:19, Luigi Iannone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ggx@gigix.net" class=3D"">ggx@gigix.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dus-ascii" class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"">Hi All,</span><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><font class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" =
class=3D"">The authors of &nbsp;</span></font><font face=3D"Helvetica =
Neue" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" =
class=3D"">draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub&nbsp;submitted a new version =
addressing the issues raised during SECDIR =
review.</span></font></div><div class=3D""><font class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D"">The document seems =
mature and stable and authors are asking for formal WG Last =
Call.</span></font></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">This email open the =
usual two weeks Working Group Last Call, to end January 28th, =
2021.</div><div class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0);"><div class=3D"" style=3D""><div class=3D"">Please review this WG =
document and let the WG know if you agree that it is ready to be handed =
over to the AD.</div></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"">If you have =
objections, please state your reasons why, and explain what it would =
take to address your concerns.</div><div class=3D"" style=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"" style=3D"">NOTE: silence IS NOT =
consensus!</div><div class=3D"" style=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"" style=3D""><div class=3D"">Thanks</div></div><div class=3D"" =
style=3D""><font color=3D"#00afcd" class=3D""><br class=3D""></font>Luigi =
&amp; =
Joel</div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br =
class=3D"">lisp mailing list<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:lisp@ietf.org" class=3D"">lisp@ietf.org</a><br =
class=3D""><a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp" =
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Hi Med,

Ok, I misread that text as the processing of an error condition.  This =
raises a few questions:

What happens if an xTR wants to *add* subscriptions?  Do they just do =
another map request with the N bit set on new EIDs?

If that same request contains EIDs that had previously had the N bit set =
but no longer do? Does the ETR just process it as it would have =
previously and keep sending map updates for those EIDs or is that an =
error?

Eliot

> On 18 Jan 2021, at 14:48, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:
>=20
> Hi Eliot, all,
>=20
> The procedure to unsubscribe is covered by the following:
>=20
>    If the Map-Request only has one ITR-RLOC with AFI =3D 0 (i.e., =
Unknown
>    Address), the Map-Server MUST remove the subscription state for =
that
>    xTR-ID.
>=20
> We discussed among the authors back in 2017 whether the procedure =
should allow to select the EIDs for which an ITR can unsubscribe, but =
the agreement was to keep the spec simple. Hence the above text.
>=20
> Cheers,
> Med
>=20
> De : lisp [mailto:lisp-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Eliot Lear
> Envoy=C3=A9 : lundi 18 janvier 2021 14:12
> =C3=80 : Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net>
> Cc : lisp-chairs@ietf.org; lisp@ietf.org list <lisp@ietf.org>
> Objet : Re: [lisp] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub
>=20
> Just poking my nose in here, this is a cool draft. I say, go for it.  =
Depending on implementation, it may address the very problem I was =
attempting to solve with NERD: that first dropped packet.
>=20
> I have one small suggestion and a question:
>=20
> The suggestion:
>=20
> It would be useful to discuss what statistics should be kept when =
experimenting.  Specifically: number of subscribes (prior to or after =
the first time one saw an EID), the number of map updates over time =
(I=E2=80=99m betting there=E2=80=99s a lot of stability out there, but =
that=E2=80=99s just me), number of subscribers.
>=20
> The question:
>=20
> How would an xTR UNsubscribe from mapping notifications?  I would =
imagine this would amount to a new map request that clears the N bit for =
appropriate EID-Records?
>=20
> Eliot
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On 13 Jan 2021, at 08:19, Luigi Iannone <ggx@gigix.net =
<mailto:ggx@gigix.net>> wrote:
>=20
> Hi All,
>=20
> The authors of  draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub submitted a new version =
addressing the issues raised during SECDIR review.
> The document seems mature and stable and authors are asking for formal =
WG Last Call.
>=20
> This email open the usual two weeks Working Group Last Call, to end =
January 28th, 2021.
>=20
> Please review this WG document and let the WG know if you agree that =
it is ready to be handed over to the AD.
> If you have objections, please state your reasons why, and explain =
what it would take to address your concerns.
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> NOTE: silence IS NOT consensus!
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> Thanks
>=20
> Luigi & Joel
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi =
Med,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Ok, I misread =
that text as the processing of an error condition. &nbsp;This raises a =
few questions:</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">What happens if an xTR wants to *add* subscriptions? &nbsp;Do =
they just do another map request with the N bit set on new =
EIDs?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If that =
same request contains EIDs that had previously had the N bit set but no =
longer do? Does the ETR just process it as it would have previously and =
keep sending map updates for those EIDs or is that an error?</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Eliot</div><div =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On 18 Jan 2021, at 14:48, <a =
href=3D"mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com" =
class=3D"">mohamed.boucadair@orange.com</a> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
charset=3D"UTF-8" class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" =
class=3D"">Hi Eliot, all,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D"">The procedure to =
unsubscribe is covered by the following:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
&quot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; If the =
Map-Request only has one ITR-RLOC with AFI =3D 0 (i.e., Unknown<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
&quot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp; Address), the =
Map-Server MUST remove the subscription state for that<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
&quot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" =
class=3D"">xTR-ID.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin:=
 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D"">We discussed among the =
authors back in 2017 whether<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" =
class=3D"">the procedure should allow to select the EIDs for which an =
ITR can unsubscribe, but the agreement was to keep the spec simple. =
Hence the above text.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: &quot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D"">Cheers,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
&quot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D"">Med<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
&quot;Courier New&quot;;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"border-style: none =
none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: blue; =
padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">De&nbsp;:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>lisp [<a =
href=3D"mailto:lisp-bounces@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">mailto:lisp-bounces@ietf.org</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">De la part =
de</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Eliot Lear<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Envoy=C3=A9&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>lundi 18 janvier 2021 =
14:12<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">=C3=80&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Luigi Iannone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ggx@gigix.net" class=3D"">ggx@gigix.net</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:lisp-chairs@ietf.org" class=3D"">lisp-chairs@ietf.org</a>; =
<a href=3D"mailto:lisp@ietf.org" class=3D"">lisp@ietf.org</a> list =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lisp@ietf.org" class=3D"">lisp@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Objet&nbsp;:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [lisp] WG Last Call for =
draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">Just poking my nose in =
here, this is a cool draft. I say, go for it. &nbsp;Depending on =
implementation, it may address the very problem I was attempting to =
solve with NERD: that first dropped packet.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">I have one =
small suggestion and a question:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">The suggestion:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">It would be =
useful to discuss what statistics should be kept when experimenting. =
&nbsp;Specifically: number of subscribes (prior to or after the first =
time one saw an EID), the number of map updates over time (I=E2=80=99m =
betting there=E2=80=99s a lot of stability out there, but that=E2=80=99s =
just me), number of subscribers.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">The question:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">How would =
an xTR UNsubscribe from mapping notifications? &nbsp;I would imagine =
this would amount to a new map request that clears the N bit for =
appropriate EID-Records?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">Eliot<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
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font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><br =
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class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">On 13 Jan =
2021, at 08:19, Luigi Iannone &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ggx@gigix.net" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">ggx@gigix.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">Hi All,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
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serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">The authors =
of &nbsp;<span style=3D"font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D"">draft-ietf-lisp-pubsub&nbsp;submitted a new version =
addressing the issues raised during SECDIR review.</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D"">The document seems mature and stable and authors are =
asking for formal WG Last Call.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">This email open the usual two weeks =
Working Group Last Call, to end January 28th, 2021.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D"">Please review this WG document and let the WG know if =
you agree that it is ready to be handed over to the AD.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">If you have objections, please state =
your reasons why, and explain what it would take to address your =
concerns.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D"">NOTE: silence IS NOT consensus!<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, =
serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" =
class=3D"">Thanks<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 175, 205);" class=3D""><br class=3D""></span>Luigi =
&amp; Joel<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div></div><div =
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This draft is a work item of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol WG of the IETF.

        Title           : LISP L2/L3 EID Mobility Using a Unified Control Plane
        Authors         : Marc Portoles Comeras
                          Vrushali Ashtaputre
                          Victor Moreno
                          Fabio Maino
                          Dino Farinacci
	Filename        : draft-ietf-lisp-eid-mobility-07.txt
	Pages           : 26
	Date            : 2021-01-17

Abstract:
   The LISP control plane offers the flexibility to support multiple
   overlay flavors simultaneously.  This document specifies how LISP can
   be used to provide control-plane support to deploy a unified L2 and
   L3 overlay solution for End-point Identifier (EID) mobility, as well
   as analyzing possible deployment options and models.



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