From nobody Fri Mar 1 13:11:25 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@irtf.org Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A75130EC5; Fri, 1 Mar 2019 13:09:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: maprg@irtf.org, irtf-chair@irtf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.92.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <155147459809.6101.3620757987428096293.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 13:09:58 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [Maprg] maprg - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 104 X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2019 21:10:02 -0000 Dear Mirja Kühlewind, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. maprg Session 1 (2:00 requested) Thursday, 28 March 2019, Morning Session II 1050-1220 Room Name: Congress Hall 2 size: 350 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/sessions/maprg.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Area Name: IRTF Session Requester: Mirja Kühlewind Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 200 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: alto tsvarea mptcp tcpinc ippm iccrg tcpm taps rmcat tsvwg httpbis quic dispatch secdispatch Second Priority: artarea intarea 6man dnsop v6ops saag tls rtgarea opsawg panrg bmwg Third Priority: irtfopen avtcore uta rtcweb People who must be present: Mirja Kuehlewind Dave Plonka Resources Requested: Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Thu Mar 7 01:30:51 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D4AB130F20 for ; 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Wed, 20 Mar 2019 12:54:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Plonka Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:54:00 -0500 Message-ID: To: maprg@irtf.org Cc: maprg-chairs@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: [Maprg] Hackathon Reminder: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols - Live" projects X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 19:54:16 -0000 Hi folks, This is just a reminder that you are welcome to join in these MAPRG efforts at the hackathon this coming weekend, currently described as follows (from the Hackathon wik= i: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/104hackathon ): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MAP: Measurement and Analysis for Protocols - Live Champion(s) * Dave Plonka, Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) - Research Grou= p * Mirja K=C3=BChlewind, Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) - Rese= arch Group Project(s) * Analysis tool development and measurement results for Internet Draft on Privacy & Security Issues in IPv6 Deployment, YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjNgiMrC6zHs&t=3D12m18s slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-maprg-privacy= -security-issues-in-ipv6-deployment-tobias-fiebig-00 * IP Network Performance and Capacity Measurement Method Comparisons: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-ippm-02-liais= on-to-ippm-00 * We are also open for work and live measurements using other tools and methodology - Please let us know if you want to participate! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- So far Oliver Gasser and Al Morton have let us know they plan to join. We will have wired connectivity for those intending to perform active measurement experiments. There is no fee, but you *must* register for the Hackathon if you intend to join: https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf104/hackathonregistration.py See you this weekend - and/or next week! Dave & Mirja --=20 dave@plonka.us http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/ From nobody Thu Mar 28 03:45:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846B012043C for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 03:45:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tIuBRoWTmBjt for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 03:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.cnes.fr (mx1.cnes.fr [194.199.174.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97DD212026F for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2019 03:45:00 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.60,280,1549929600"; d="scan'208,217";a="6735269" X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2EzAAB5pJxc/wYBeApjHQIFCAWBUggMAYEOgWqBNIwgk?= =?us-ascii?q?GiPDIV3gXsihFkChVI0CQ0BAQMBAQEIAQMCAgKBEYV/XgEVFVYmAQQbgxuBE?= =?us-ascii?q?awKGooZgS8BgVmLboFXh1CDOYImA5EblBAHAoEikj9pilcDiEmLLJUvYYEuM?= =?us-ascii?q?xongzmCFReOHo9IgR8BAQ?= X-URL-LookUp-ScanningError: 1 From: Kuhn Nicolas To: "'maprg@irtf.org'" Thread-Topic: [MAPRG and satellite] TCP-specific performance over SATCOM link Thread-Index: AdTlUyHV4iWGBMPbSoazEmWBjuH34w== Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 10:43:51 +0000 Deferred-Delivery: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 10:42:40 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-11.0.0.4255-8.100.1062-24516.006 x-tm-as-result: No--18.507500-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F3B0A07CFD358240926B78A680E166FF1EBB6555TWMBXP03cnesnet_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Maprg] [MAPRG and satellite] TCP-specific performance over SATCOM link X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2019 10:45:11 -0000 --_000_F3B0A07CFD358240926B78A680E166FF1EBB6555TWMBXP03cnesnet_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Sorry if I did not reach the mic in time - what I wanted to say there : Measuring TCP E2E over SATCOM links is possible but it depends to what exte= nd you have access to what on the other side of the satellite GW : - you can bypass the PEP using UDP tunnels (that is what we do when = we evaluate TCP-proxies) - you may have access to the GW and "remove" the proxy Tests over SATCOM infrastructure: - we have infrastructure for hosting SATCOM related tests - do not h= esitate to contact me if you want to carry some specific evaluations Cheers, Nico --_000_F3B0A07CFD358240926B78A680E166FF1EBB6555TWMBXP03cnesnet_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

Sorry if I did not reach the mi= c in time – what I wanted to say there :

Measuring TCP E2E over SATCOM l= inks is possible but it depends to what extend you have access to what on t= he other side of the satellite GW :

-  = ;      you can bypass the PEP = using UDP tunnels (that is what we do when we evaluate TCP-proxies)

-  = ;      you may have access to = the GW and “remove” the proxy

Tests over SATCOM infrastructur= e:

-  = ;      we have infrastructure = for hosting SATCOM related tests – do not hesitate to contact me if y= ou want to carry some specific evaluations

 

Cheers,

 

Nico

 

--_000_F3B0A07CFD358240926B78A680E166FF1EBB6555TWMBXP03cnesnet_-- From nobody Fri Mar 29 02:16:13 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: maprg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F37120266 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 02:16:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.42 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.42 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NPdaGcLA2rI0 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 02:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faui45.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui45.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.34.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C08AE12023E for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 02:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faui7s0.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (faui7s0.informatik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.37.210]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by faui45.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3007E7409B6; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 10:16:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.43.230] (tmo-110-221.customers.d1-online.com [80.187.110.221]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by faui7s0.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 82AB740F246A; Fri, 29 Mar 2019 10:16:02 +0100 (CET) To: maprg@irtf.org References: From: Joerg Deutschmann Cc: giovane.moura@sidn.nl Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 10:15:55 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.100.2 at faui45 X-Virus-Status: Clean Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Maprg] [MAPRG and satellite] TCP-specific performance over SATCOM link X-BeenThere: maprg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Measurement and Analysis for Protocols \(MAP\) \(Proposed\) RG mailing list" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 09:16:13 -0000 Thanks Nicolas for the clarifications. Giovane asked for our RIPE probe, which is https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/33314 It is currently connected to "Operator C". If there is interest, I can connect further probes to "Operator A" and "Operator B". You may also find more satellite probes with the user tag "Satellite", Median RTTs above 500ms, or the ASNs of course ;-) Best regards, Joerg On 28.03.19 11:43, Kuhn Nicolas wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry if I did not reach the mic in time – what I wanted to say there : > > Measuring TCP E2E over SATCOM links is possible but it depends to what > extend you have access to what on the other side of the satellite GW : > > -you can bypass the PEP using UDP tunnels (that is what we do when we > evaluate TCP-proxies) > > -you may have access to the GW and “remove” the proxy > > Tests over SATCOM infrastructure: > > -we have infrastructure for hosting SATCOM related tests – do not > hesitate to contact me if you want to carry some specific evaluations > > Cheers, > > Nico >