From nobody Thu Apr 1 13:44:34 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: perc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: perc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3093A22CB for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2021 13:44:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.087 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.087 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P5pLuxwjuKHi for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2021 13:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vs1-xe30.google.com (mail-vs1-xe30.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e30]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED4AA3A22CD for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2021 13:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vs1-xe30.google.com with SMTP id a15so1895527vsi.0 for ; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 13:44:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Rvffx/eSypVUKjieXLIok+mW8em/Xed+29e9i8NAkrc=; b=oDcOx0NAcoAKMSMWzz9Pg0p8Mt3uu4iPPj34wMj0HZRa+CN7e1910Ju8Jit7E6A9IX n2wH7HjvWimWnQYKtUwuNxuZBkMAkW9XeRE8kLUKFoeS5NrXdiHQZ0BHD/Mx+bHQD2W9 j9agRVyNWBUV6Kw4bUb0YQJNKH30EPh/ygbCucsbtKEtowv7QOJyby+psnCzk86sBFS3 W6ViF83qZF/G2WB2NXk+X1slBPrJ7LoX55D76+atPIrUu3ICywCEejVqQomNnXIySZFL W5nf2DCeF4l40lQwTybnQGLGYWHOHp0JYMvNwoOEjoRqM9+kodiwWz9OAOpdKk2POVHN a92A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Rvffx/eSypVUKjieXLIok+mW8em/Xed+29e9i8NAkrc=; b=d+fLZitS1sAGKggz1H+9xE71a1+HaIWUUmdWRVYYgWNTP77ijYcT1s6aqoTXFewWfx lWdRc+Yo70MP2byZlp+ju3cZhcq3g/j4eKxLv9QMTBGiqfSZBOClttAOxwigsGVWqxqq u3OxL20epNtnTpBZXvqgTcYeNQW0sNt0GOEH991C6IsBknezLYPosClgtFL/qAUo7djM xCQsTNb3V/ifb+ZeVUn1m4OHE1ge52Tq6ED96dI0jSHz7TrSUGoZ9GMwSJkNV/EjN6a2 9J3Wf6O+aEiQz+Z/ckNWkXsvOJVu8Us2wATfLBCQlhmocYQhRjbDhmFnxfraG1R9cOPJ 4hig== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531BAWW3QGRVzrec8MCWPvO88KuvcwG6JtTdgvTYt3CbRAoS5fOE D2wqk/jr0D4V3KJxsL6G8dCrNOMR1aSShQV3ahNe+7B25Tc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJziPOpatcmipiOTJObqH44R4KX2Bavz5GJV1CQiOmZY+qDmgLaI3kOwpkYg05dWm++6PXI3D9ULKMAQWN8ymEs= X-Received: by 2002:a67:ef8b:: with SMTP id r11mr7193483vsp.50.1617309865028; Thu, 01 Apr 2021 13:44:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Suhas Nandakumar Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 13:44:14 -0700 Message-ID: To: perc@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ff313c05beef4b3f" Archived-At: Subject: [Perc] WGLC for draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel X-BeenThere: perc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhanced RTP Conferencing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2021 20:44:32 -0000 --000000000000ff313c05beef4b3f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All We totally missed on finishing one last Informational WG document : "DTLS Tunnel between a Media Distributor and Key Distributor to Facilitate Key Exchange" This is an announcement for the WGLC for the same, the document is available for inspection here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel-07 Please help review the document and send your comments by *April 16, 2021*= . Please Note there are IPR declaration at https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=3Ddraft&id=3Ddraft-ietf-per= c-dtls-tunnel Suhas Nandakumar For the Chairs --000000000000ff313c05beef4b3f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
Hello All
We totally missed on finishing one last Informational WG document : "=
;DTLS Tunnel between a Media Distributor and Key Distributor to Facilitate =
Key Exchange"
This is an announcement for the WGLC for the same, the documen=
t is available for inspection here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft=
-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel-07

Please help review the document and send your comments by  April 16, 202=
1.

Pleas=
e Note there are IPR declaration at=C2=A0https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=3Ddr=
aft&id=3Ddraft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel

Suhas Nandakumar
For the Chairs
--000000000000ff313c05beef4b3f-- From nobody Mon Apr 19 11:19:26 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: perc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: perc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004433A3D88 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:19:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.005 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.005 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8_Kk21uQXRzw for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.smeinc.net (mail.smeinc.net [209.135.209.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53B1A3A3D87 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C421A300BD2 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:19:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.smeinc.net Received: from mail.smeinc.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.smeinc.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Xb9pf0BOydd5 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:19:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from a860b60074bd.fios-router.home (pool-141-156-161-153.washdc.fios.verizon.net [141.156.161.153]) by mail.smeinc.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05C1D30046B for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:19:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Russ Housley Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_AB3DF2C0-D188-44EB-ADBD-99FBDD4A6BCC" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 14:19:17 -0400 References: To: perc@ietf.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Perc] WGLC for draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel X-BeenThere: perc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhanced RTP Conferencing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 18:19:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_AB3DF2C0-D188-44EB-ADBD-99FBDD4A6BCC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Section 2: Your reference to BCP 14 does not include "NOT RECOMMENDED". = Please use: The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all capitals, as shown here. Section 4: I do not know the meaning of "abbrev" in: "... inside abbrev = "TunneledDtls" message." Please clarify. Section 5.3: Please reference Section 4.4 of [RFC4122] for random UUID = creation. Section 5.4 says: "The key distributor MUST correlate the certificate = fingerprint ...". What does correlate mean? I was expecting a = requirement for exact match? What hash algorithm(s) are used for = fingerprints? Section 6.1: MKI is optional in RFC 3711. What is carried in MediaKeys = when there is no MKI present? NITS: The document uses "hop-by-hop" and "HBH" in many places. Please pick = one and use it everywhere. Russ > On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Suhas Nandakumar = wrote: >=20 > Hello All > We totally missed on finishing one last Informational WG document : = "DTLS Tunnel between a Media Distributor and Key Distributor to = Facilitate Key Exchange" > This is an announcement for the WGLC for the same, the document is = available for inspection here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel-07 = >=20 > Please help review the document and send your comments by April 16, = 2021. >=20 > Please Note there are IPR declaration at = https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=3Ddraft&id=3Ddraft-ietf-pe= rc-dtls-tunnel = >=20 > Suhas Nandakumar > For the Chairs --Apple-Mail=_AB3DF2C0-D188-44EB-ADBD-99FBDD4A6BCC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Section 2: Your reference to BCP 14 does not include "NOT = RECOMMENDED". Please use:

   The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", = "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
   "SHOULD", = "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and
   "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be = interpreted as described in
   BCP 14 = [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all
   capitals, as shown here.

Section 4: I do not know the meaning of = "abbrev" in: "... inside abbrev "TunneledDtls" message." =  Please clarify.

Section 5.3: Please reference Section 4.4 of [RFC4122] for = random UUID creation.

Section 5.4 says: "The key distributor MUST correlate the = certificate fingerprint ...".  What does correlate mean?  I = was expecting a requirement for exact match?  What hash = algorithm(s) are used for fingerprints?

Section 6.1: MKI is optional in RFC = 3711.  What is carried in MediaKeys when there is no MKI = present?

NITS:

The document uses "hop-by-hop" and "HBH" in many places. =  Please pick one and use it everywhere.

Russ

On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Suhas Nandakumar <suhasietf@gmail.com>= wrote:

Hello All
We totally missed on finishing one last Informational WG =
document : "DTLS Tunnel between a Media Distributor and Key Distributor =
to Facilitate Key Exchange"
This is an announcement for the WGLC for the same, the =
document is available for inspection here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunn=
el-07

Please help review the document and send your comments by  April 16, 2021.

Please Note there are IPR declaration at https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=3Ddraft&id=3D=
draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel

Suhas Nandakumar
For the Chairs

= --Apple-Mail=_AB3DF2C0-D188-44EB-ADBD-99FBDD4A6BCC-- From nobody Mon Apr 26 16:27:03 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: perc@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: perc@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777E63A3502 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 16:27:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.92 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.92 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dpZSOhgS3NTu for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 16:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp101.iad3b.emailsrvr.com (smtp101.iad3b.emailsrvr.com [146.20.161.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA9173A3501 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 16:26:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Auth-ID: fluffy@iii.ca Received: by smtp13.relay.iad3b.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fluffy-AT-iii.ca) with ESMTPSA id 7D42E60210; Mon, 26 Apr 2021 19:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) From: Cullen Jennings In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 17:26:35 -0600 Cc: Suhas Nandakumar , Paul Jones Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <84CD7A1C-C383-48F4-95D5-2561F6694E9C@iii.ca> References: To: perc@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-Classification-ID: 3f70ad30-9311-4c70-91d6-ea1c6734cbfd-1-1 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Perc] WGLC for draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel X-BeenThere: perc@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Privacy Enhanced RTP Conferencing List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 23:27:02 -0000 This document is easy to understand and very detailed. I think it is = ready for publication.=20 There are a few small changes I would recommend: 1. The way SDP is used, I think RFC 4566 needs to be a normative = reference ( it is currently an informative reference ) 2. I would sugest that the IANA section say that the update procedure = for the table is "IETF Review" as defined in RFC 8126. (and add = normative ref). This is not much of a change from what is there but I = think it makes it more concrete and clear.=20 3. In section 5.1 when talking about the tls-id, the document should = include a normative reference to RFC 8842