From nobody Tue Oct 3 14:41:18 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9AD8132D79 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:41:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mbAj9tb6uBNw for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qt0-x22f.google.com (mail-qt0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E416013207A for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id e19so11862436qta.13 for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:41:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MDncFOURVjnQCj0ZDmZ1RlkYR1Gy74Un0kkig7BQd80=; b=uY87jxIF8vydLN1fw9MTU/cbRlGLopmNP5sWl70gNk7a2X7BfgXqYLNCXgSJ8JFi5Z XuYEY4aMgpPu5CWPyI0V0j/XnvMj4EYrlQD3k+dARfDKI7bo40Ghcvj6VFln1BGX66Vn U/+VOw2SCdEjOEbyn4M1XjDTfEcOiaxdjK6FoDjgdbdOQ5ln3HLXkt2+pIFURqlhf2x8 s+LSTu9pj1TLcrPF/iSIzGfOQNDsYxBnp1JesQmhJSRnH8ISYRSVqE1gBc8/zikm7Bv/ yTQW7MM/ocK5j+bYamgIRJ5LmTgHYJFDYiPWOQ9Xd0wE+p+vT93v4qhba0PnpPArhydC l5Rw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MDncFOURVjnQCj0ZDmZ1RlkYR1Gy74Un0kkig7BQd80=; b=D6AOYQA28ORHISgx4yZP1Xx3oZEHDdmVqshwUpJwwDI1AuesNNWKHOEKrPw1qLHB90 YdIrv4dYddMNCo1wVav6qD29kwgIoQmlK+RIkZQ3gA9Z+Q9ieSsHloCVTEPuJaKY4MN9 epBzTiGkti8eYjqPzhWKUE4sFEsJrck79zFMyeMb2jeUrjaFVeHXkiaxTN+SH2ZqkxO/ x6yTFOZBt9qRlX0UojBGOGh+4gp1foFwK+jp41wPAYIwesPHiqUiky+rJgoHBuZD46J5 YLEzDM82IDqH3l7+Bk8+ee0MP1FYBR59zOlOtUecKrxmg2P4RWBKqP9GjIH+IjNPG8/2 8Xqw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUzWL7yY0YrGOXB4GZOcWVnq1GTDAweM4WAaRvr5/urkCLVN21B nbnSN8F9kcyaAv+3P05D4V5k0waKIgKPIyMMsOcK26cn X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QBTo2Fq8yG+FBdCMj0YKUimUb9RXsdG22tNn40WnN63MD13arN+ggA17QqCbxvcugJbvwrZ++39FtMgx/DDp/0= X-Received: by 10.200.37.221 with SMTP id f29mr16487607qtf.98.1507066872898; Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.42.166 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201709181600465902931@zte.com.cn> From: Stig Venaas Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:41:12 -0700 Message-ID: To: "pim@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-pim-multiple-upstreams-reqs@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call fordraft-ietf-pim-multiple-upstreams-reqs-04 X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 21:41:17 -0000 Thanks to everyone that responded to the WGLC. Mike and I believe we have sufficient responses. Authors, please submit an updated version that addresses the comments you received, and also change the Intended Status to Informational as discussed during the WGLC. Stig On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:28 AM, Stig Venaas wrote: > Hi > > We need more responses to this WGLC. Please respond whether you think > the draft is ready or not, and any comments or issues you may have > with the draft. > > Note that the draft says intended status is Experimental, but we will > change this to Informational unless there are any objections. Please > also let us know if you have issues with that. > > Stig > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 1:00 AM, wrote: >> Support the publication of this draft. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Sandy >> >> >> =E5=8E=9F=E5=A7=8B=E9=82=AE=E4=BB=B6 >> =E5=8F=91=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A ; >> =E6=94=B6=E4=BB=B6=E4=BA=BA=EF=BC=9A ; >> =E6=97=A5 =E6=9C=9F =EF=BC=9A2017=E5=B9=B409=E6=9C=8812=E6=97=A5 03:07 >> =E4=B8=BB =E9=A2=98 =EF=BC=9A[pim] Working group last call >> fordraft-ietf-pim-multiple-upstreams-reqs-04 >> >> >> Hi >> >> This is a working group last call for >> draft-ietf-pim-multiple-upstreams-reqs-04. In Prague we had 8 people >> in favor of going to working group last call for this draft, and none >> against. >> >> Please let us know whether you believe the draft is ready for >> publication, or if you have any issues with this last revision. The >> draft can be found at >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pim-multiple-upstreams-reqs-04 >> >> This working group last call ends September 25th. >> >> Stig >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pim mailing list >> pim@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim >> >> >> From nobody Tue Oct 3 14:51:04 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A96E132F3F for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:51:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Eq1eAMDChYCn for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk0-x22b.google.com (mail-qk0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 816911330B3 for ; Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id c67so9117712qkg.2 for ; Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:51:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=k3TklPGqieNFdJYeSyUnmupFAZdGwSnby5H0VihPlEQ=; b=m19vJReaouxyTqZFpYv0F4DGGrPpTnY7WzxpSsXFOLnTPex9ueWo4JecFi9pK/2v4O Tmr3kwyoVeC1ZIgum3k7FycvI8S1YirhYS7wJTogwLniR15XK9LBWI+Z+VJFYhnAxiVM KdYBSvGvbJW2n//GOJw7cB0d8GdGSIrFaUVTXHj7rONed40MYlPvGGvJco58Pdlll6HI c/4+Fv7fORxLixwdumCCxirhAepDOOWdL8Pf8wxa0dxALzUo24poBafugNO7VV01XHXG Vc8Aqxx+dWIqtWWaSmzJGVONEbU3QqX5vbJFeuUtiUVr8mTwFy/04eJYBic33XkS/Ts4 eFwQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=k3TklPGqieNFdJYeSyUnmupFAZdGwSnby5H0VihPlEQ=; b=LfpW8GyU6AeW6bAK33GSQcl0qMFzIlIw1eiouBY0vqP4/PSm2KMlUmcjiLj/74E7cc vurzvK0ztpadkpyqFL5OIUAN+PHbPTPfyrVEZEScqOXIptK0ltsGFhfbZRI1PmfDy7GD mX3J/CXZoraOc3VseoaHNkZNCFkKPiLp5vo6QPuJQUVYhMJCZRWq6bO5c5mmB4/PCH6k Z50Bowjin5dPgVRuVY5taXqryE8u0FJlU7/3kTd6YPJiGWg5O/1zXugVAE+hWzxrhnmd blG42Vzxn6geTOiZobi0hIpc9hyttHuY1azR4EOVsaegBz/NF2DQMSxJpa6ACaBPAJcm YUnQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVTgekVDV4F01DEd8tFfP3FdmudrHdF1bCHhwHjckey0+77u+my b0gcNZiPP7AQoFqi/R6cWd9mZOGHjnulAyOtK2zdYH+Mink= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDjWxYLSAvGtfwliWos2ci/MxxZ6dnYQjqQEZXQUHolFPRRmBxBmZFUyQ6OhCq2gtGNuzMZP8HHueyUZiZ1GnI= X-Received: by 10.55.163.197 with SMTP id m188mr21445142qke.304.1507067459460; Tue, 03 Oct 2017 14:50:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.42.166 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:50:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Stig Venaas Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 14:50:59 -0700 Message-ID: To: "pim@ietf.org" , draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: [pim] Working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2017 21:51:02 -0000 Hi This is a working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05. In Prague we had 6 people in favor of going to working group last call for this draft, and none against. We have however been waiting for a new version that follows the new NMDA routing models. This latest version now follows that model. Please let us know whether you believe the draft is ready for publication, or if you have any issues with this last revision. The draft can be found at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 This working group last call ends October 17th. 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([2001:200:e103:1000:a102:79f0:4c01:85d3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f10sm976186pgr.67.2017.10.05.22.46.18 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Oct 2017 22:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Hitoshi Asaeda In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 14:46:23 +0900 Cc: draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: pim@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2017 05:46:23 -0000 Hi, I have a couple of comments. > This is a working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05. > In Prague we had 6 people in favor of going to working group last call > for this draft, and none against. >=20 > We have however been waiting for a new version that follows the new > NMDA routing models. This latest version now follows that model. >=20 > Please let us know whether you believe the draft is ready for > publication, or if you have any issues with this last revision. The > draft can be found at > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 There is one PS document, rfc5790, which is known as = Lightweight-IGMPv3/MLDv2. LW-IGMPv3/MLDv2 duplicate the EXCLUDE mode = operations and translate the EXCLUDE operations to INCLUDE operations. = The authors may need to check rfc5790. And also, routers may enable the explicit tracking function for = IGMP/MLD. I don=E2=80=99t know whether some entries are needed for this = function or should be defined for the yang model or not, but the authors = may want to check. (Note that we will revise the explicit tracking draft in the very near = future, but please refer to the current (expired) I-D for the explicit = tracking function to recognize its functionalities.) 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([2001:200:e103:1000:907c:2b36:38f5:8eb2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p6sm24746266pga.93.2017.10.12.20.09.52 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Oct 2017 20:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Hitoshi Asaeda In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 12:09:51 +0900 Cc: "pim@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Xufeng Liu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 03:09:57 -0000 Hi, > 2017/10/13 4:40, Xufeng Liu wrote: >=20 > Hi Hitoshi, >=20 > Thanks for the comments. We have discussed them during our weekly = design team meeting. >=20 > For rfc5790, do you know if there are existing implementations? Cisco = seems to be the only company that has the implementation. If so, we = usually would leave it for vendor augmentation. If there were several = implementations, we would add it as a feature. It's an old implementation and not a vendor implementation, but there is = one. http://web.sfc.wide.ad.jp/~asaeda/LW-IGMPv3/index.html And I vaguely remember that Huawei had the implementation, while I = don=E2=80=99t know it is (or was) included in their commercial version. My opinion is that since RFC5790 is the PS document and referred by = several RFCs (*), it=E2=80=99s better to consider it as the supported = protocol. (*) http://www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/citations-rfc5790.html > For the explicit tracking, it seems that at lease Cisco and Juniper = have implemented. Huawei and Ericsson have not. We plan to add this as = an optional feature to the model. I don=E2=80=99t know the detail but I heard several operators such as = Deutsche Telekom already support this function in their networks. > The modeling of these two modes should be simple, with one boolean = leaf for each. Do you think that any more configuration knobs are = needed? RFC5790 and the explicit tracking function do not declare any new values = and uses the standard values defined by rfc3376 and rfc3810; therefore = they could be with one boolean leaf I guess. Regards, Hitoshi > Thanks, > - Xufeng >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hitoshi Asaeda [mailto:asaeda@ieee.org] >> Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 1:46 AM >> To: pim@ietf.org >> Cc: draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for = draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 >>=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> I have a couple of comments. >>=20 >>> This is a working group last call for = draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05. >>> In Prague we had 6 people in favor of going to working group last = call >>> for this draft, and none against. >>>=20 >>> We have however been waiting for a new version that follows the new >>> NMDA routing models. This latest version now follows that model. >>>=20 >>> Please let us know whether you believe the draft is ready for >>> publication, or if you have any issues with this last revision. The >>> draft can be found at >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 >>=20 >> There is one PS document, rfc5790, which is known as Lightweight- >> IGMPv3/MLDv2. LW-IGMPv3/MLDv2 duplicate the EXCLUDE mode operations >> and translate the EXCLUDE operations to INCLUDE operations. The = authors may >> need to check rfc5790. >>=20 >> And also, routers may enable the explicit tracking function for = IGMP/MLD. I >> don=E2=80=99t know whether some entries are needed for this function = or should be >> defined for the yang model or not, but the authors may want to check. >> (Note that we will revise the explicit tracking draft in the very = near future, but >> please refer to the current (expired) I-D for the explicit tracking = function to >> recognize its functionalities.) >>=20 >> Regards, >>=20 >> Hitoshi >=20 From nobody Tue Oct 17 07:04:34 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7BC13214D; Tue, 17 Oct 2017 07:04:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.701 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no 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This draft is a work item of the Protocols for IP Multicast WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG data model for Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) and Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) Authors : Xufeng Liu Feng Guo Mahesh Sivakumar Pete McAllister Anish Peter Filename : draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-06.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2017-10-20 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure and manage Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) and Multicast Listener Discovery (MLD) devices. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Oct 20 17:30:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim@ietf.org Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1205D134566; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:24:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: pim@ietf.org, aretana.ietf@gmail.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150854546906.20809.5808961513276789565.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:24:29 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [pim] pim - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 100 X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 00:24:29 -0000 Dear Stig Venaas, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. pim Session 1 (2:30:00) Tuesday, Morning Session I 0930-1200 Room Name: VIP A size: 100 --------------------------------------------- Special Note: Joint session with MBONED Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Protocols for IP Multicast Area Name: Routing Area Session Requester: Stig Venaas Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2.5 Hours Number of Attendees: 50 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: mboned bess Second Priority: rtgwg bier i2rs rtgarea netconf netmod Third Priority: spring softwire idr nvo3 homenet lisp ospf People who must be present: Mike McBride Stig Venaas Alvaro Retana Resources Requested: Special Requests: We would be happy to share our meeting slot with mboned as usual. --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Sat Oct 21 08:43:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim@ietf.org Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EEE1241F3; Sat, 21 Oct 2017 08:42:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pim@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150860057976.3067.4958554626778374153@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 08:42:59 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [pim] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pim-yang-11.txt X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2017 15:43:00 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Protocols for IP Multicast WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG data model for Protocol-Independent Multicast (PIM) Authors : Xufeng Liu Pete McAllister Anish Peter Mahesh Sivakumar Yisong Liu Fangwei Hu Filename : draft-ietf-pim-yang-11.txt Pages : 70 Date : 2017-10-21 Abstract: This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure and manage Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) devices. The model covers the PIM protocol configuration, operational state, and event notifications data. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pim-yang/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pim-yang-11 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pim-yang-11 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pim-yang-11 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Oct 22 10:01:22 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F87B139F53 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:01:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dcUqA52ht102 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qt0-x22a.google.com (mail-qt0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF8C3139F52 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qt0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id d9so16833418qtd.7 for ; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:01:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4OibpPK61BR+pm5q7685sg26vkJnSX6036m0xHmXK/Q=; b=CGzZntOzo154Lof+ZiI20q9NQnK9NKNCImKTN3+btD7IDGFqVN0t0da2G1xT0Kem9O Uz7Je0JxX6++XbOvr025WvshkDmHW0tlGdXQN+3DD1vcDvudM7nTOGpZgkez7NqHD68X BApJIcjh8JXooRyRRRgZcctHMHBa7mucQGTS10IhMcK8zlL8wTxsQT2lwhP6mAs/BUQH DcvaC+sWzEMKTM73qZI8TETxO5IVT5O31FDjjcLlL+0+EgkCXCBQEBAmWX8osqMS9cf9 8Fdn7Mk7VyNFnVTLEckVVmiObrS3lh/YvUxbf+sSm9VEsUtpkXNAG1mNbMjCkfG+iRHN rhlg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4OibpPK61BR+pm5q7685sg26vkJnSX6036m0xHmXK/Q=; b=Km+e6MhlNofshbDpvKo/GYK8xAz8O/40jSZZSfbNPgTK54V1JzRKDnnX8fg/XDBogV QVz5l7xnEww+6AUCC5TitWo76wJ4ZYXQaEV2x5HykNXHJrSG4YIUIVdplepBnjjQAMT0 8eql6u8r21u7OSWTooaoP12twLFTHs/3Bdv84IXHxm4xms135cRaqojMT2LclTu4f2UY bxit8VroEltPetttU77uFM/NjsnH13Fkh3VN9nRvobNa4ERBDdnWniADR8J+v0Ac6ccM TFeccya1WDIGxVauwmvx4JG81+6I+ajd6YGgbtJMaEu56P0nuFe/BG0J0/CjUIJ5Ki32 xe0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWe+2ggC+yAeJyDyfauzfvEKTUTwWW4SEfxRW0abFInitMEUd/+ qZyMGL9V1aYLYcBlVcAe9cTiKyzPq5GjBGphn/iu1g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SBR/41miv2B+C/XeZO89TePiX/4p6jyNTmo3WYPuFEIJoNUG6heMBnw/mPXbY+VElqeGg2xN8WWrFjmzB28UQ= X-Received: by 10.200.45.28 with SMTP id n28mr16675201qta.100.1508691677829; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:01:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.28.9 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:01:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Stig Venaas Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:01:17 -0700 Message-ID: To: Xufeng Liu Cc: Hitoshi Asaeda , "pim@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:01:20 -0000 Hi It would be great if could get some more responses to this WGLC. If anyone thinks the draft is ready to be published, or have issues, please let us know. I will also review the draft once more myself. Stig On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Xufeng Liu wrote: > Hi Hitoshi, > > Thanks for the further information. > Personally I am fine to add RFC5790 to the model as a feature. I'd like t= o hear from others. > Thanks, > - Xufeng > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hitoshi Asaeda [mailto:asaeda@ieee.org] >> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 11:10 PM >> To: Xufeng Liu >> Cc: pim@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-y= ang-05 >> >> Hi, >> >> > 2017/10/13 4:40, Xufeng Liu wrote: >> > >> > Hi Hitoshi, >> > >> > Thanks for the comments. We have discussed them during our weekly desi= gn >> team meeting. >> > >> > For rfc5790, do you know if there are existing implementations? Cisco = seems >> to be the only company that has the implementation. If so, we usually wo= uld >> leave it for vendor augmentation. If there were several implementations,= we >> would add it as a feature. >> >> It's an old implementation and not a vendor implementation, but there is= one. >> http://web.sfc.wide.ad.jp/~asaeda/LW-IGMPv3/index.html >> >> And I vaguely remember that Huawei had the implementation, while I don= =E2=80=99t >> know it is (or was) included in their commercial version. >> >> My opinion is that since RFC5790 is the PS document and referred by seve= ral >> RFCs (*), it=E2=80=99s better to consider it as the supported protocol. >> (*) http://www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/citations-rfc5790.html >> >> > For the explicit tracking, it seems that at lease Cisco and Juniper ha= ve >> implemented. Huawei and Ericsson have not. We plan to add this as an opt= ional >> feature to the model. >> >> I don=E2=80=99t know the detail but I heard several operators such as De= utsche Telekom >> already support this function in their networks. >> >> > The modeling of these two modes should be simple, with one boolean lea= f for >> each. Do you think that any more configuration knobs are needed? >> >> RFC5790 and the explicit tracking function do not declare any new values= and >> uses the standard values defined by rfc3376 and rfc3810; therefore they = could >> be with one boolean leaf I guess. >> >> Regards, >> >> Hitoshi >> >> > Thanks, >> > - Xufeng >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Hitoshi Asaeda [mailto:asaeda@ieee.org] >> >> Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 1:46 AM >> >> To: pim@ietf.org >> >> Cc: draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org >> >> Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for >> >> draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I have a couple of comments. >> >> >> >>> This is a working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-0= 5. >> >>> In Prague we had 6 people in favor of going to working group last >> >>> call for this draft, and none against. >> >>> >> >>> We have however been waiting for a new version that follows the new >> >>> NMDA routing models. This latest version now follows that model. >> >>> >> >>> Please let us know whether you believe the draft is ready for >> >>> publication, or if you have any issues with this last revision. The >> >>> draft can be found at >> >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 >> >> >> >> There is one PS document, rfc5790, which is known as Lightweight- >> >> IGMPv3/MLDv2. LW-IGMPv3/MLDv2 duplicate the EXCLUDE mode >> operations >> >> and translate the EXCLUDE operations to INCLUDE operations. The >> >> authors may need to check rfc5790. >> >> >> >> And also, routers may enable the explicit tracking function for >> >> IGMP/MLD. I don=E2=80=99t know whether some entries are needed for th= is >> >> function or should be defined for the yang model or not, but the auth= ors may >> want to check. >> >> (Note that we will revise the explicit tracking draft in the very >> >> near future, but please refer to the current (expired) I-D for the >> >> explicit tracking function to recognize its functionalities.) >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Hitoshi >> > > From nobody Thu Oct 26 13:51:19 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100A513F5FC for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:51:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pMgU0eBqfzlU for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk0-x236.google.com (mail-qk0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7C7413F5F2 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk0-x236.google.com with SMTP id m189so5978804qke.4 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:51:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zu750WF5QfrF+SKEbx0H0yUB671gx3BI1nTMfTqJE90=; b=kJTQrkyHS52H/z/oEIM+Y+hKD8u/EoHKGKjQHU7O2F97j7mgxjKp60d4Veqne4L6Gt gyGOcACPfboc+KjPdGAX9iKOVlQi/ea9AJjYYCldB30tYxjJ4XGmSrecEwuXiIvmLcVa rXIFylk52cA//+kRzHKNNcAB+5giJye2W4Tk4I/W7vYKMxZmfCBjt2sbddoP1+KEM84W OOF/FRXopQEDBfbr1JWtprdFLpZ/tqL/WKOFHG9PBWGmJV0mc4T8tiX/WsS61h0V2Kew 7OEJkkCTzB/IztEnn8XurVIJjjfi7aQjUIjV+QtS3pQgWJNmEBN1qZBWkPcxgsr8ZWym +7Mg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zu750WF5QfrF+SKEbx0H0yUB671gx3BI1nTMfTqJE90=; b=YRJ1b3kYqVJHTMwldNok4MiBbLrNaJXqz6x508ko1HRwYygBPiLhXso8qL2SpZ9RwN TtzUWn7irTYDOfxzii8QvT86eGupXrPBgEWxXEdpimL9ybpGBgrm/ujpns1gR+rM6Bc3 Z2jEoaFRKD9fI0RlbB+XXjm7ND4HoZvTFyhIF5vkEix70z12NGDbvJT7bIoWGbv59K0q izcZTSg//eNm0qx3bXrHPSCeOP2nRMCWr85GDyylwvoL90LRccKWavP5KKNvMZHPweu0 2kXvT0tf4LPzPrgZtwRyXuImaHxR6cMBfUjCkb9omdZdNH/+6NG86K5aMk2Eicmpsz3O OdWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaUFAcGc8myNFDXippOqxmzHOpI11LpVLRI61CWej/hWBvozwy/B AsFqGjenA6Z+5Ap0Cuafm34goN8sZSJpS/evUZmNgA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+RGismLWAWGfK/WHnsBU562b4XxDmnriwlZwu9QNDgFy/486Nm0n3Xj+WLGT0ryuUGM3zFQj1BO4G6771rww2c= X-Received: by 10.55.163.23 with SMTP id m23mr10420280qke.304.1509051073773; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:51:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.28.9 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:51:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Stig Venaas Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:51:13 -0700 Message-ID: To: Xufeng Liu Cc: Hitoshi Asaeda , "pim@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2017 20:51:18 -0000 Hi I had another look at the draft myself, and I only found a few nits. I see you have listed earlier revisions in the module definition. I wonder whether draft versions should be here, or if the published RFC should be the initial version, no revisions. Thoughts? Otherwise I just found a few typos. There are 3 places where this description is missing a space.: membership.A device can restrict the length Typo "or": "The maximum number of groups that IGMP ro MLD can join."; Typo "entires": "Clears the specified MLD cache entires."; Stig On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Stig Venaas wrote: > Hi > > It would be great if could get some more responses to this WGLC. If > anyone thinks the draft is ready to be published, or have issues, > please let us know. I will also review the draft once more myself. > > Stig > > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Xufeng Liu wrote: >> Hi Hitoshi, >> >> Thanks for the further information. >> Personally I am fine to add RFC5790 to the model as a feature. I'd like = to hear from others. >> Thanks, >> - Xufeng >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Hitoshi Asaeda [mailto:asaeda@ieee.org] >>> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 11:10 PM >>> To: Xufeng Liu >>> Cc: pim@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-= yang-05 >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> > 2017/10/13 4:40, Xufeng Liu wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi Hitoshi, >>> > >>> > Thanks for the comments. We have discussed them during our weekly des= ign >>> team meeting. >>> > >>> > For rfc5790, do you know if there are existing implementations? Cisco= seems >>> to be the only company that has the implementation. If so, we usually w= ould >>> leave it for vendor augmentation. If there were several implementations= , we >>> would add it as a feature. >>> >>> It's an old implementation and not a vendor implementation, but there i= s one. >>> http://web.sfc.wide.ad.jp/~asaeda/LW-IGMPv3/index.html >>> >>> And I vaguely remember that Huawei had the implementation, while I don= =E2=80=99t >>> know it is (or was) included in their commercial version. >>> >>> My opinion is that since RFC5790 is the PS document and referred by sev= eral >>> RFCs (*), it=E2=80=99s better to consider it as the supported protocol. >>> (*) http://www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/citations-rfc5790.html >>> >>> > For the explicit tracking, it seems that at lease Cisco and Juniper h= ave >>> implemented. Huawei and Ericsson have not. We plan to add this as an op= tional >>> feature to the model. >>> >>> I don=E2=80=99t know the detail but I heard several operators such as D= eutsche Telekom >>> already support this function in their networks. >>> >>> > The modeling of these two modes should be simple, with one boolean le= af for >>> each. Do you think that any more configuration knobs are needed? >>> >>> RFC5790 and the explicit tracking function do not declare any new value= s and >>> uses the standard values defined by rfc3376 and rfc3810; therefore they= could >>> be with one boolean leaf I guess. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Hitoshi >>> >>> > Thanks, >>> > - Xufeng >>> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: Hitoshi Asaeda [mailto:asaeda@ieee.org] >>> >> Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 1:46 AM >>> >> To: pim@ietf.org >>> >> Cc: draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org >>> >> Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for >>> >> draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 >>> >> >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> I have a couple of comments. >>> >> >>> >>> This is a working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-= 05. >>> >>> In Prague we had 6 people in favor of going to working group last >>> >>> call for this draft, and none against. >>> >>> >>> >>> We have however been waiting for a new version that follows the new >>> >>> NMDA routing models. This latest version now follows that model. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please let us know whether you believe the draft is ready for >>> >>> publication, or if you have any issues with this last revision. The >>> >>> draft can be found at >>> >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 >>> >> >>> >> There is one PS document, rfc5790, which is known as Lightweight- >>> >> IGMPv3/MLDv2. LW-IGMPv3/MLDv2 duplicate the EXCLUDE mode >>> operations >>> >> and translate the EXCLUDE operations to INCLUDE operations. The >>> >> authors may need to check rfc5790. >>> >> >>> >> And also, routers may enable the explicit tracking function for >>> >> IGMP/MLD. I don=E2=80=99t know whether some entries are needed for t= his >>> >> function or should be defined for the yang model or not, but the aut= hors may >>> want to check. >>> >> (Note that we will revise the explicit tracking draft in the very >>> >> near future, but please refer to the current (expired) I-D for the >>> >> explicit tracking function to recognize its functionalities.) >>> >> >>> >> Regards, >>> >> >>> >> Hitoshi >>> > >> From nobody Thu Oct 26 21:58:13 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E45F139438 for ; Thu, 26 Oct 2017 21:58:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Hello PIMers,

 

We will be meeting on Tuesday Nov 14th at= 9:30 in Singapore. If you have draft updates, or new drafts, to present, p= lease let Stig and I know as we work on the agenda.

 

Thanks,

mike

 

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--_000_17BBA30212C24741B3FA4E21C2D1F742ciscocom_-- From nobody Fri Oct 27 14:13:55 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim@ietf.org Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 824F513F459; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:13:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pim@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150913883450.22201.15635021570344724482@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:13:54 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [pim] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pim-ipv4-prefix-over-ipv6-nh-01.txt X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:13:54 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from 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This draft is a work item of the Protocols for IP Multicast WG of the IETF. Title : Use of PIM Address List Hello across address families Authors : Ashutosh Gupta Stig Venaas Filename : draft-ietf-pim-ipv4-prefix-over-ipv6-nh-01.txt Pages : 5 Date : 2017-10-27 Abstract: In the PIM Sparse Mode standard there is an Address List Hello option used to list secondary addresses of an interface. Usually the addresses would be of the same address family as the primary address. In this document we provide a use case for listing secondary addresses that are from a different family. In particular, Multi- Protocol BGP (MP-BGP) has support for distributing next-hop information for multiple address families using one AFI/SAFI Network Layer Reachability Information (NLRI). When using this combined with PIM, the Address List Hello option can be used to determine which PIM neighbor to use as RPF neighbor. 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Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Fri Oct 27 14:21:01 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EFE1386A1 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:20:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wLuLXW54hVg1 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk0-x231.google.com (mail-qk0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D86313F5A9 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk0-x231.google.com with SMTP id f199so9992009qke.2 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:20:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=venaas-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BJ9k4f/eHI8ceD3mxCaEAo0e/I3T9frhyKeAbmtYl/M=; b=G3GoujWPJxq1elg/MmpSlp4z4sPgqPLqDHeEMaQxwsQRElkNbmFg8cFRH/nExNz1Gg fZJn4K0JKkzsyiOTrYMfDTJSl8YI16apepi7Yl5PFxKT5MWj6UJRCg3nr8F+e19rzfPH IkwiT/gTI11hk/dTQi6heRYMRPn5c6qAtHpWdhgPy/yRLRu7pu4S/b2zAAF7jS6fRCCZ 0Vv5q/K+SP3CinOlKq/7nml9DYgLzHjhurklnBZ8sl3h8y+JBbGT7w57HHPaGsBvz1Di Adqt/6v6ru4gNnsQgiL1MgA/TJzExNrqz/+DeafDJlE0T+Vaf/YJyWztzvV8pDQPTrog Cypw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BJ9k4f/eHI8ceD3mxCaEAo0e/I3T9frhyKeAbmtYl/M=; b=nz/QlMjg6MIfwKRIBMqDU7Wok3thgkLQahZeQuK9qIF1bqJ041qBiDQYiwnXtQsIND bu0u6bvbm+ZGAdlvvdmOLTsAlH/5yzzbXOl+sGq61etJtbrrNVsQ9XvPhyktLqaD/iHR 6nxmwxxGoo6APNYGfpTYTa5/WvsZ7KrIT5v5z/0A7IBsDfkmoOKePBizTymwsgliCiPk MiYBUyakxhDlTNugpIBNIimTnu99gDP1EZ5GX3hvxShvdYwZLPkKFwNwnSA2UbdqN7+7 Qj17jJ60b1yW8Gf1qFcvmtzey1xD6CHeV1YDH7jk8qLGbO5QFUhqmjfQ1Ogp/mEpsGuE nkKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWiXbbCd0VQctH7p5BrQp7zwJ7hOoHuqcdYzxM5oOSlXEv/3JrH T/RPFq0+YmQrjL5K8xOBbXf9bbzKvUg3su9V9rgrdg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SxfBXwE0CCWNsbMfwUEOuDITca+CnOY7vpV1xfSmZRPkHkTYqE8eivs3TzvgAy/1pFib9Gz+IO53OMb2fOfb0= X-Received: by 10.55.165.213 with SMTP id o204mr2898806qke.313.1509139254584; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:20:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.28.9 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:20:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Stig Venaas Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 14:20:54 -0700 Message-ID: To: Xufeng Liu Cc: Hitoshi Asaeda , "pim@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 21:20:59 -0000 Hi While we wish there were more responses to the WGLC, Mike and I believe we have sufficient support to publish it. The design team has done a lot of work on this and we have support at least from a handful of authors and vendors, and there is no doubt that we need a YANG model. The draft has also been through YANG doctor review. I will request publication. However, please review the draft if you haven't. if anyone has any concerns or would like changes to the draft, there is still time. It will also go to IETF last call. But please review and let us know ASAP if anything. Stig On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Stig Venaas wrote: > Hi > > I had another look at the draft myself, and I only found a few nits. > > I see you have listed earlier revisions in the module definition. I > wonder whether draft versions should be here, or if the published RFC > should be the initial version, no revisions. Thoughts? > > Otherwise I just found a few typos. > > There are 3 places where this description is missing a space.: > > membership.A device can restrict the length > > > Typo "or": > "The maximum number of groups that IGMP ro MLD can join."; > > Typo "entires": > "Clears the specified MLD cache entires."; > > Stig > > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Stig Venaas wrote: >> Hi >> >> It would be great if could get some more responses to this WGLC. If >> anyone thinks the draft is ready to be published, or have issues, >> please let us know. I will also review the draft once more myself. >> >> Stig >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 7:04 AM, Xufeng Liu wrote= : >>> Hi Hitoshi, >>> >>> Thanks for the further information. >>> Personally I am fine to add RFC5790 to the model as a feature. I'd like= to hear from others. >>> Thanks, >>> - Xufeng >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Hitoshi Asaeda [mailto:asaeda@ieee.org] >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2017 11:10 PM >>>> To: Xufeng Liu >>>> Cc: pim@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org >>>> Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld= -yang-05 >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> > 2017/10/13 4:40, Xufeng Liu wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi Hitoshi, >>>> > >>>> > Thanks for the comments. We have discussed them during our weekly de= sign >>>> team meeting. >>>> > >>>> > For rfc5790, do you know if there are existing implementations? Cisc= o seems >>>> to be the only company that has the implementation. If so, we usually = would >>>> leave it for vendor augmentation. If there were several implementation= s, we >>>> would add it as a feature. >>>> >>>> It's an old implementation and not a vendor implementation, but there = is one. >>>> http://web.sfc.wide.ad.jp/~asaeda/LW-IGMPv3/index.html >>>> >>>> And I vaguely remember that Huawei had the implementation, while I don= =E2=80=99t >>>> know it is (or was) included in their commercial version. >>>> >>>> My opinion is that since RFC5790 is the PS document and referred by se= veral >>>> RFCs (*), it=E2=80=99s better to consider it as the supported protocol= . >>>> (*) http://www.arkko.com/tools/allstats/citations-rfc5790.html >>>> >>>> > For the explicit tracking, it seems that at lease Cisco and Juniper = have >>>> implemented. Huawei and Ericsson have not. We plan to add this as an o= ptional >>>> feature to the model. >>>> >>>> I don=E2=80=99t know the detail but I heard several operators such as = Deutsche Telekom >>>> already support this function in their networks. >>>> >>>> > The modeling of these two modes should be simple, with one boolean l= eaf for >>>> each. Do you think that any more configuration knobs are needed? >>>> >>>> RFC5790 and the explicit tracking function do not declare any new valu= es and >>>> uses the standard values defined by rfc3376 and rfc3810; therefore the= y could >>>> be with one boolean leaf I guess. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Hitoshi >>>> >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > - Xufeng >>>> > >>>> >> -----Original Message----- >>>> >> From: Hitoshi Asaeda [mailto:asaeda@ieee.org] >>>> >> Sent: Friday, October 6, 2017 1:46 AM >>>> >> To: pim@ietf.org >>>> >> Cc: draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang.all@ietf.org >>>> >> Subject: Re: [pim] Working group last call for >>>> >> draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi, >>>> >> >>>> >> I have a couple of comments. >>>> >> >>>> >>> This is a working group last call for draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang= -05. >>>> >>> In Prague we had 6 people in favor of going to working group last >>>> >>> call for this draft, and none against. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> We have however been waiting for a new version that follows the ne= w >>>> >>> NMDA routing models. This latest version now follows that model. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Please let us know whether you believe the draft is ready for >>>> >>> publication, or if you have any issues with this last revision. Th= e >>>> >>> draft can be found at >>>> >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-05 >>>> >> >>>> >> There is one PS document, rfc5790, which is known as Lightweight- >>>> >> IGMPv3/MLDv2. LW-IGMPv3/MLDv2 duplicate the EXCLUDE mode >>>> operations >>>> >> and translate the EXCLUDE operations to INCLUDE operations. The >>>> >> authors may need to check rfc5790. >>>> >> >>>> >> And also, routers may enable the explicit tracking function for >>>> >> IGMP/MLD. I don=E2=80=99t know whether some entries are needed for = this >>>> >> function or should be defined for the yang model or not, but the au= thors may >>>> want to check. >>>> >> (Note that we will revise the explicit tracking draft in the very >>>> >> near future, but please refer to the current (expired) I-D for the >>>> >> explicit tracking function to recognize its functionalities.) >>>> >> >>>> >> Regards, >>>> >> >>>> >> Hitoshi >>>> > >>> From nobody Mon Oct 30 15:21:11 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: pim@ietf.org Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2132113FC45; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:21:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: pim@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.63.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <150940207010.28316.6569236339402003402@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:21:10 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [pim] I-D Action: draft-ietf-pim-multiple-upstreams-reqs-05.txt X-BeenThere: pim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 22:21:10 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Protocols for IP Multicast WG of the IETF. Title : Requirements for the extension of the IGMP/MLD proxy functionality to support multiple upstream interfaces Authors : Luis M. Contreras Carlos J. Bernardos Hitoshi Asaeda Nic Leymann Filename : draft-ietf-pim-multiple-upstreams-reqs-05.txt Pages : 13 Date : 2017-10-30 Abstract: The purpose of this document is to define the requirements for a MLD (for IPv6) or IGMP (for IPv4) proxy with multiple interfaces covering a variety of applicability scenarios. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pim-multiple-upstreams-reqs/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pim-multiple-upstreams-reqs-05 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-pim-multiple-upstreams-reqs-05 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pim-multiple-upstreams-reqs-05 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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If you have > draft updates, or new drafts, to present, please let Stig and I know as we > work on the agenda. > > > > Thanks, > > mike > > > > *Tuesday, November 14, 2017 (+08)* > > *9:30-12:00* > > *Tuesday Morning session I* > > VIP A > > ops > > mboned > > MBONE Deployment > Joint session with PIM > > > > VIP A > > rtg > > pim > > Protocols for IP Multicast > Joint session with MBONED > > > > _______________________________________________ > pim mailing list > pim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim > > --001a113fd23a073365055ce005b0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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