From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Apr 2 04:20:00 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id EAA00708 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 04:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B9Gjt-00032y-K3 for pmtud-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:57:09 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i324v9N3011700 for pmtud-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 23:57:09 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B9Dxx-0008GS-KE for pmtud-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:59:29 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id UAA21986 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 20:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B9Dxv-0007lX-00 for pmtud-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:59:27 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B9Dwv-0007V3-00 for pmtud-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:58:25 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B9Dva-0007E7-00 for pmtud-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:57:02 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B9ADF-0007qU-TU; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 16:59:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B97RS-0000C4-6h for pmtud@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:01:30 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id OAA25926 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 14:01:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B97RF-0005i2-00 for pmtud@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:01:17 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B97QJ-0005b3-00 for pmtud@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 14:00:20 -0500 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B97PP-0005W2-00; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 13:59:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4837B30B5; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 13:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basie.internet2.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01976-02; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 13:59:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from BMW (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244C8309C; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 13:59:23 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew J Zekauskas To: proceedings@ietf.org Cc: pmtud@ietf.org Message-ID: <9501712.1080827962@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.internet2.edu virus scanner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pmtud] Presentations for PMTUD at IETF59 Sender: pmtud-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: pmtud-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: pmtud@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discovery List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 13:59:22 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PDF for the two presentations for PMTUD at IETF59 are available at http://people.internet2.edu/~matt/pmtud/meetings/ietf59/ . Let me know if you need them in some other format or emailed directly. --Matt _______________________________________________ pmtud mailing list pmtud@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmtud From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Apr 2 07:37:59 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id HAA06789 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 07:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B9Kph-0005Th-Sn for pmtud-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 04:19:26 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i329JPuV021058 for pmtud-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 04:19:25 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B9Gex-0002vv-Vr for pmtud-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:52:04 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id XAA06997 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 23:52:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B9Gev-0000x3-00 for pmtud-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:52:01 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B9GYW-0007Na-00 for pmtud-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:45:26 -0500 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B9GRp-0005vK-00 for pmtud-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 23:38:29 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B9Dkv-0005dM-2v; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:46:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B99mf-0003Tf-HY for pmtud@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 16:31:33 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id QAA03097 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:31:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B99md-0005qE-00 for pmtud@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 16:31:31 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B99lf-0005ih-00 for pmtud@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 16:30:31 -0500 Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([207.75.164.22]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B99lM-0005dF-00 for pmtud@ietf.org; Thu, 01 Apr 2004 16:30:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1A72F86; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:30:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from basie.internet2.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basie.internet2.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26042-04; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:30:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from BMW (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by basie.internet2.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE152F1D; Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:30:12 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew J Zekauskas To: pmtud@ietf.org Cc: Matt Zekauskas , Matt Mathis Message-ID: <18550163.1080837011@localhost> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by mail.internet2.edu virus scanner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [pmtud] Minutes for PMTUD at IETF59 Sender: pmtud-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: pmtud-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: pmtud@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discovery List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 16:30:11 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are also now on http://people.internet2.edu/~matt/pmtud/meetings/ietf59/ specifically, If you have any issues, please let us know. Note that I will be offline from very soon until after the official minutes deadline (5pm ET tomorrow), so be sure not to just send comments to me. --Matt _______________________________________________ pmtud mailing list pmtud@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmtud From exim@www1.ietf.org Fri Apr 2 17:24:16 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org (optimus.ietf.org [132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA08629 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B9X4n-0001U2-72 for pmtud-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:23:49 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i32MNnit005703 for pmtud-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:23:49 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B9X4m-0001TW-Po for pmtud-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:23:49 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA08391 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 17:23:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B9X4k-0000Kj-00 for pmtud-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:23:46 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B9WzF-00076e-00 for pmtud-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:18:06 -0500 Received: from [65.246.255.50] (helo=mx2.foretec.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B9WxN-0006bI-00 for pmtud-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:16:09 -0500 Received: from optimus22.ietf.org ([132.151.6.22] helo=optimus.ietf.org) by mx2.foretec.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1B9Wrn-0000YP-Bd for pmtud-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:10:23 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B9W54-0006i3-Js; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:20:02 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1B9SZR-0001Bm-P6 for pmtud@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 12:35:09 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA20337 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:35:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B9SZQ-0002Yf-00 for pmtud@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 12:35:08 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1B9SYf-0002P1-00 for pmtud@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 12:34:21 -0500 Received: from oetest.freeswan.org ([205.150.200.166] helo=noxmail.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1B9SXn-0002De-00 for pmtud@ietf.org; Fri, 02 Apr 2004 12:33:27 -0500 Received: from lox.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (IDENT:root@lox.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca [205.150.200.178]) by noxmail.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (8.11.6p3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i32HX7g18594 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK) for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (desk.marajade.sandelman.ca [205.150.200.247]) by lox.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (8.11.6p3/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i32HboD16672 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK) for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:37:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (mcr@marajade [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id i32HWZ8o017286 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:32:35 -0500 Received: from marajade.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (mcr@localhost) by sandelman.ottawa.on.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id i32HWZRE017283 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2004 12:32:35 -0500 To: pmtud@ietf.org Subject: Re: [pmtud] Presentations for PMTUD at IETF59 In-Reply-To: Message from Matthew J Zekauskas of "Thu, 01 Apr 2004 13:59:22 EST." <9501712.1080827962@localhost> References: <9501712.1080827962@localhost> X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4.2; nmh 1.0.4+dev; XEmacs 21.4 (patch 6) Message-ID: <17282.1080927155@marajade.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca> From: Michael Richardson Sender: pmtud-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: pmtud-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: pmtud@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: Path Maximum Transmission Unit Discovery List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 12:32:35 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.60 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Matthew in your presentation you mentioned devices that do not honour DF bit. I know that you understand that this is mostly to avoid breakage. I hope that the WG understands this as well. To the WG, I wrote draft-richardson-ipsec-fragment-00.txt last fall. The IPsec WG is interested in this problem, but aren't experts at PMTUd. I would like to ask the PMTUD WG to consider adopting the above document as a proposed BCP. Perhaps it would be enough for pmtud to generate an official opinion on this heuristic and recommend it to the IPsec WG. I understand that Matthew has code now - I would be interested in testing this heuristic against it. - -- ] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [ ] Michael Richardson, Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON |net architect[ ] mcr@xelerance.com http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/mcr/ |device driver[ ] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQCVAwUBQG2jsoqHRg3pndX9AQHjQQQAhRTMZnC/y0R7bF6clHXQB9YmTyUY/8Tv 5vv/XaGA+NcpAVwBLfM3RsTMfPN5j3LVZuFe2gJiA1T4AYllr7sMqYRRiGF4BtiM GjmjltjhwpILyF10tJlsE41D305HXMBGcMGEVaN6xElg/28IxqNE0N4+R18kbiwH LcWSstYvAWY= =L2Nt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ pmtud mailing list pmtud@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pmtud