From nobody Tue Feb 23 05:58:17 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: scim@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2276A3A2B71; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 05:58:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D1nzHwTeuEiB; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 05:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B84ED3A2B6E; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 05:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 35104F4075E; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 05:58:02 -0800 (PST) To: andrew.webb@outthink.io, phil.hunt@yahoo.com, kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com, erik.wahlstrom@nexusgroup.com, cmortimore@salesforce.com X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Cc: barryleiba@computer.org, iesg@ietf.org, scim@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Message-Id: <20210223135802.35104F4075E@rfc-editor.org> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 05:58:02 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Subject: [scim] [Errata Rejected] RFC7643 (6438) X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 13:58:12 -0000 The following errata report has been rejected for RFC7643, "System for Cross-domain Identity Management: Core Schema". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6438 -------------------------------------- Status: Rejected Type: Editorial Reported by: Andrew Webb Date Reported: 2021-02-23 Rejected by: Barry Leiba (IESG) Section: 3.1. Original Text ------------- version The version of the resource being returned. This value must be the same as the entity-tag (ETag) HTTP response header (see Sections 2.1 and 2.3 of [RFC7232]). This attribute has "caseExact" as "true". Service provider support for this attribute is optional and subject to the service provider's support for versioning (see Section 3.14 of [RFC7644]). If a service provider provides "version" (entity-tag) for a representation and the generation of that entity-tag does not satisfy all of the characteristics of a strong validator (see Section 2.1 of [RFC7232]), then the origin server MUST mark the "version" (entity-tag) as weak by prefixing its opaque value with "W/" (case sensitive). Corrected Text -------------- version The version of the resource being returned. This value must be the same as the entity-tag (ETag) HTTP response header (see Sections 2.1 and 2.3 of [RFC7232]). This attribute has "caseExact" as "true". Service provider support for this attribute is optional and subject to the service provider's support for versioning (see Section 3.14 of [RFC7644]). If a service provider provides "version" (entity-tag) for a representation and the generation of that entity-tag does not satisfy all of the characteristics of a strong validator (see Section 2.1 of [RFC7232]), then the origin server MUST mark the "version" (entity-tag) as weak by prefixing its opaque value with "W/" (case sensitive). Notes ----- In the original text, the hyperlinks applied to "2.1" and "2.3" incorrectly link to those sections in RFC 7643, whereas they should link to those sections in RFC 7232. --VERIFIER NOTES-- Errata reports are for errors in the canonical version, which, for these RFCs, are the plain text versions. HTML renderings that include heuristically-generated links aren't covered by the errata system. -------------------------------------- RFC7643 (draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22) -------------------------------------- Title : System for Cross-domain Identity Management: Core Schema Publication Date : September 2015 Author(s) : P. Hunt, Ed., K. Grizzle, E. Wahlstroem, C. 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[2001:569:7a71:1d00:65a6:806e:1b49:5294]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id nh6sm6344781pjb.21.2021.02.25.09.54.00 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:54:00 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Hunt Message-Id: <2C8FD6B7-9855-43B5-A2FE-D85910966970@independentid.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_15D17584-582A-44F7-90E6-7E8B715832BE" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 09:53:59 -0800 In-Reply-To: Cc: Andrew Webb , RFC Errata System , Kelly Grizzle , Murray Kucherawy , Morteza Ansari , Leif Johansson , "scim@ietf.org" To: Barry Leiba References: <20210223111822.B884FF40765@rfc-editor.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [scim] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7643 (6403) X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 17:54:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_15D17584-582A-44F7-90E6-7E8B715832BE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Regarding errata 6403=E2=80=A6 EDIT - Editorial While I agree for consistency that =E2=80=9CRECOMMENDED" is not the = best, I believe the group wanted =E2=80=9CRECOMMENDED=E2=80=9D to = encourage more support for use. In particular it was probably bad to = make it all caps because it is not normative in the protocol sense. Related, the example schema on page 71 shows the attribute is optional = (Required =3D false). Also, the enterprise user schema which contains = the =E2=80=9Cmanager=E2=80=9D attribute is optional in practical terms. In practical terms, any deployer is free to make such attributes = mandatory or not as long as they publish the deployed schema in the = /Schemas endpoint. I would recommend changing =E2=80=9CRECOMMENDED=E2=80=9D to = =E2=80=9CRecommended=E2=80=9D as the use is not normative. Phil Hunt @independentid phil.hunt@independentid.com > On Feb 25, 2021, at 5:58 AM, Barry Leiba = wrote: >=20 >> Re. my earlier errata for the same RFC: >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6403 there was no feedback and >> it's still unverified (as are a few others), so I wondered if anyone >> was out there. But I will take your non-rejection of it as >> acceptance. >=20 > Unfortunately, we're not always good about handling errata reports, > and we should do better. >=20 > Phil, errata report 6403 looks correct to me. Will you take a look at > it and comment, please? >=20 > Barry >=20 >>=20 >> On another matter: I have questions about `userName` and its = uniqueness constraint. Where best to ask? StackOverflow? >>=20 >> Thanks. >>=20 >> Yours, >> Andrew >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Andrew Webb >> Senior Engineer (Architecture & Development) >> OutThink >>=20 >>=20 >> andrew.webb@outthink.io | >> +44 203 432 4846 | >> 35 New Broad Street, London, EC2M 1NH, United Kingdom >>=20 >>=20 >> OutThink is the Highest Rated Security Awareness Solution >> Reviews from your enterprise peers =E2=80=93 verified by Gartner >> Read our reviews or contribute a review today on Gartner Peer = Insights >>=20 >>=20 >> ________________________________ >> From: Barry Leiba >> Sent: 23 February 2021 21:34 >> To: Phil Hunt >> Cc: RFC Errata System ; Kelly Grizzle = ; Erik Wahlstr=C3=B6m neXus = ; Chuck Mortimore = ; Murray Kucherawy ; = Morteza Ansari ; Leif Johansson ; = Andrew Webb ; scim@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7643 (6438) >>=20 >> Yes, Phil, and I already rejected the errata report a few hours ago. >>=20 >> Barry >>=20 >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 2:10 PM Phil Hunt = wrote: >>>=20 >>> I believe this is a technical issue within the RFC issue. Officially = the .txt is considered normative. >>>=20 >>> Please correct me if I am wrong. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Phil Hunt (RFC7643 editor) >>> phil.hunt@yahoo.com >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Feb 23, 2021, at 3:18 AM, RFC Errata System = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7643, >>>> "System for Cross-domain Identity Management: Core Schema". >>>>=20 >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> You may review the report below and at: >>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6438 >>>>=20 >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> Type: Editorial >>>> Reported by: Andrew Webb >>>>=20 >>>> Section: 3.1. >>>>=20 >>>> Original Text >>>> ------------- >>>> version The version of the resource being returned. This value >>>> must be the same as the entity-tag (ETag) HTTP response = header >>>> (see Sections 2.1 and 2.3 of [RFC7232]). This attribute has >>>> "caseExact" as "true". Service provider support for this >>>> attribute is optional and subject to the service provider's >>>> support for versioning (see Section 3.14 of [RFC7644]). If = a >>>> service provider provides "version" (entity-tag) for a >>>> representation and the generation of that entity-tag does = not >>>> satisfy all of the characteristics of a strong validator = (see >>>> Section 2.1 of [RFC7232]), then the origin server MUST mark = the >>>> "version" (entity-tag) as weak by prefixing its opaque value >>>> with "W/" (case sensitive). >>>>=20 >>>> Corrected Text >>>> -------------- >>>> version The version of the resource being returned. This value >>>> must be the same as the entity-tag (ETag) HTTP response = header >>>> (see Sections 2.1 and 2.3 of [RFC7232]). This attribute has >>>> "caseExact" as "true". Service provider support for this >>>> attribute is optional and subject to the service provider's >>>> support for versioning (see Section 3.14 of [RFC7644]). If = a >>>> service provider provides "version" (entity-tag) for a >>>> representation and the generation of that entity-tag does = not >>>> satisfy all of the characteristics of a strong validator = (see >>>> Section 2.1 of [RFC7232]), then the origin server MUST mark = the >>>> "version" (entity-tag) as weak by prefixing its opaque value >>>> with "W/" (case sensitive). >>>>=20 >>>> Notes >>>> ----- >>>> In the original text, the hyperlinks applied to "2.1" and "2.3" = incorrectly link to those sections in RFC 7643, whereas they should link = to those sections in RFC 7232. >>>>=20 >>>> Instructions: >>>> ------------- >>>> This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, = please >>>> use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or >>>> rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party >>>> can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. >>>>=20 >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> RFC7643 (draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22) >>>> -------------------------------------- >>>> Title : System for Cross-domain Identity Management: = Core Schema >>>> Publication Date : September 2015 >>>> Author(s) : P. Hunt, Ed., K. Grizzle, E. Wahlstroem, C. = Mortimore >>>> Category : PROPOSED STANDARD >>>> Source : System for Cross-domain Identity Management >>>> Area : Applications and Real-Time >>>> Stream : IETF >>>> Verifying Party : IESG >>>=20 --Apple-Mail=_15D17584-582A-44F7-90E6-7E8B715832BE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

Regarding errata = 6403=E2=80=A6

EDIT - Editorial

While I agree for consistency = that =E2=80=9CRECOMMENDED" is not the best, I believe the group wanted = =E2=80=9CRECOMMENDED=E2=80=9D to encourage more support for use. In = particular it was probably bad to make it all caps because it is not = normative in the protocol sense.

Related, the example schema on page 71 = shows the attribute is optional (Required =3D false).  Also, the = enterprise user schema which contains the =E2=80=9Cmanager=E2=80=9D = attribute is optional in practical terms.

In practical terms, any deployer is = free to make such attributes mandatory or not as long as they publish = the deployed schema in the /Schemas endpoint.

I would recommend changing = =E2=80=9CRECOMMENDED=E2=80=9D to =E2=80=9CRecommended=E2=80=9D as the = use is not normative.

Phil Hunt
@independentid




On Feb 25, 2021, at 5:58 AM, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote:

Re. my earlier errata = for the same RFC:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6403 there was no = feedback and
it's still unverified (as are a few others), = so I wondered if anyone
was out there.  But I will = take your non-rejection of it as
acceptance.

Unfortunately, we're not always = good about handling errata reports,
and we should do = better.

Phil, errata report 6403 looks = correct to me.  Will you take a look at
it and = comment, please?

Barry


On = another matter: I have questions about `userName` and its uniqueness = constraint.  Where best to ask?  StackOverflow?

Thanks.

Yours,
Andrew




Andrew Webb
Senior Engineer = (Architecture & Development)
OutThink


andrew.webb@outthink.io |
+44 203 432 4846 = |
35 New Broad Street, London, EC2M 1NH, United Kingdom


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________________________________
From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>
Sent: 23 = February 2021 21:34
To: Phil Hunt <phil.hunt@yahoo.com>
Cc: RFC Errata = System <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>; Kelly Grizzle <kelly.grizzle@sailpoint.com>; Erik Wahlstr=C3=B6m = neXus <erik.wahlstrom@nexusgroup.com>; Chuck Mortimore <cmortimore@salesforce.com>; Murray Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>; Morteza Ansari <moransar@cisco.com>; = Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se>; Andrew Webb <andrew.webb@outthink.io>; scim@ietf.org <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC7643 (6438)

Yes, Phil, and I already rejected the errata = report a few hours ago.

Barry

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 2:10 PM Phil Hunt = <phil.hunt@yahoo.com> wrote:

I believe this is a technical = issue within the RFC issue. Officially the .txt is considered = normative.

Please correct me if I am = wrong.


Phil Hunt (RFC7643 = editor)
phil.hunt@yahoo.com



On Feb = 23, 2021, at 3:18 AM, RFC Errata System = <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:

The = following errata report has been submitted for RFC7643,
"System for Cross-domain Identity Management: Core = Schema".

--------------------------------------
You may = review the report below and at:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6438

--------------------------------------
Type: = Editorial
Reported by: Andrew Webb = <andrew.webb@outthink.io>

Section: = 3.1.

Original Text
-------------
   version =  The version of the resource being returned.  This value
       must be the same = as the entity-tag (ETag) HTTP response header
=        (see Sections 2.1 and 2.3 of = [RFC7232]).  This attribute has
=        "caseExact" as "true". =  Service provider support for this
=        attribute is optional and = subject to the service provider's
=        support for versioning (see = Section 3.14 of [RFC7644]).  If a
=        service provider provides = "version" (entity-tag) for a
=        representation and the = generation of that entity-tag does not
=        satisfy all of the = characteristics of a strong validator (see
=        Section 2.1 of [RFC7232]), = then the origin server MUST mark the
=        "version" (entity-tag) as weak = by prefixing its opaque value
=        with "W/" (case sensitive).

Corrected Text
--------------
   version  The version of the resource = being returned.  This value
=        must be the same as the = entity-tag (ETag) HTTP response header
=        (see Sections 2.1 and 2.3 of = [RFC7232]).  This attribute has
=        "caseExact" as "true". =  Service provider support for this
=        attribute is optional and = subject to the service provider's
=        support for versioning (see = Section 3.14 of [RFC7644]).  If a
=        service provider provides = "version" (entity-tag) for a
=        representation and the = generation of that entity-tag does not
=        satisfy all of the = characteristics of a strong validator (see
=        Section 2.1 of [RFC7232]), = then the origin server MUST mark the
=        "version" (entity-tag) as weak = by prefixing its opaque value
=        with "W/" (case sensitive).

Notes
-----
In the = original text, the hyperlinks applied to "2.1" and "2.3" incorrectly = link to those sections in RFC 7643, whereas they should link to those = sections in RFC 7232.

Instructions:
-------------
This erratum is currently posted = as "Reported". If necessary, please
use "Reply All" to = discuss whether it should be verified or
rejected. When a = decision is reached, the verifying party
can log in to = change the status and edit the report, if necessary.

--------------------------------------
RFC7643 = (draft-ietf-scim-core-schema-22)
--------------------------------------
Title =             &n= bsp; : System for Cross-domain Identity Management: Core Schema
Publication Date    : September 2015
Author(s) =           : P. Hunt, = Ed., K. Grizzle, E. Wahlstroem, C. Mortimore
Category =            : = PROPOSED STANDARD
Source =             &n= bsp;: System for Cross-domain Identity Management
Area =             &n= bsp;  : Applications and Real-Time
Stream =             &n= bsp;: IETF
Verifying Party     : = IESG


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[2001:569:7a71:1d00:65a6:806e:1b49:5294]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s1sm6672477pfe.151.2021.02.25.10.02.42 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:02:42 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Hunt Message-Id: <36A73C48-8175-484C-B562-6D9060EC90AB@independentid.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2D7F9FFA-5A15-48A4-BD3B-5DF6EB1D2C87" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:02:41 -0800 In-Reply-To: Cc: "scim@ietf.org" To: Pamela Dingle References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [scim] Regular SCIM Calls X-BeenThere: scim@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Simple Cloud Identity Management BOF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 18:02:48 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2D7F9FFA-5A15-48A4-BD3B-5DF6EB1D2C87 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I plan to attend. Phil Hunt @independentid phil.hunt@independentid.com > On Feb 25, 2021, at 10:00 AM, Pamela Dingle = wrote: >=20 > I have heard from some of you in the backchannel, so have created an = invitation and added directly the emails of those that I know are = interested. I will also invite this mailing list, which I believe will = send an email that you all can use to add this meeting to your = calendars. Having never invited an open list before, we'll see how it = goes. If there is a better way to get this meeting onto calendars, = please let me know.=20 >=20 > The first SCIM meeting will be Wednesday March 3, 8am pacific time. = The link to join the meeting is here, but I will also invite the list = and cross my fingers: = https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_MmRhN2UzY2ItODZkZi0= 0ZDZjLWI3MTItODlmMjc1NmFjNjEw%40thread.v2/0?context=3D%7b%22Tid%22%3a%2272= f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47%22%2c%22Oid%22%3a%2285bc2986-6412-41c0-= ab6d-98c80048fe64%22%7d = >=20 > Fingers crossed that I see you all next Wednesday! > From: Pamela Dingle > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 6:26 AM > To: scim@ietf.org > Subject: Regular SCIM Calls > =20 > Hi all, >=20 > I have been talking to many of you offline, and we are overdue. Let's = get the community together, to talk about what, if anything we want to = do in the SCIM arena.=20 >=20 > I would propose to stand up bi-weekly meetings, and to alternate = between an APAC-friendly time and a Europe-friendly time, starting next = week. I'm willing to send a teams invite to this group for a potential = timeslot, my proposal would be Wednesdays alternating between 3pm = Pacific (8am Japan, 11pm London). and 8am Pacific (4pm London, 1am = Tokyo). =20 >=20 > I would suggest that we start next Wednesday March 3, at 8am, even if = it is just to discuss logistics and meet each other. For homework in = advance of that meeting, I think it would be interesting for each of us = to talk briefly about how we use SCIM today. Are we service providers? = Clients? Are we relying on user & group data or providing it? Have we = extended the spec locally?=20 >=20 > Unless anyone has a strong objection about the time or alternating = format, I will send the invite above to this group, and we will see = where a repeating meeting can take us =F0=9F=99=82 >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Pamela >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > scim mailing list > scim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/scim --Apple-Mail=_2D7F9FFA-5A15-48A4-BD3B-5DF6EB1D2C87 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I = plan to attend.

Phil Hunt
@independentid




On Feb 25, 2021, at 10:00 AM, Pamela Dingle <Pamela.Dingle=3D40microsoft.com@dmarc.ietf.org> = wrote:

I have heard from some of you = in the backchannel, so have created an invitation and added directly the = emails of those that I know are interested.  I will also invite = this mailing list, which I believe will send an email that you all can = use to add this meeting to your calendars. Having never invited an open = list before, we'll see how it goes.  If there is a better way to = get this meeting onto calendars, please let me know. 

The first SCIM meeting will be Wednesday March 3, 8am = pacific time.  The link to join the meeting is here, but I will = also invite the list and cross my fingers:  https://teams.microsoft.com/l/meetup-join/19%3ameeting_MmRhN2Uz= Y2ItODZkZi00ZDZjLWI3MTItODlmMjc1NmFjNjEw%40thread.v2/0?context=3D%7b%22Tid= %22%3a%2272f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47%22%2c%22Oid%22%3a%2285bc2986= -6412-41c0-ab6d-98c80048fe64%22%7d

Fingers crossed that I see you all next Wednesday!
From: Pamela Dingle
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, = 2021 6:26 AM
To: scim@ietf.org <scim@ietf.org>
Subject: Regular SCIM = Calls
 
Hi all,

I have been talking to many of = you offline, and we are overdue.  Let's get the community together, = to talk about what, if anything we want to do in the SCIM = arena. 

I would propose to stand up bi-weekly meetings, and to = alternate between an APAC-friendly time and a Europe-friendly time, = starting next week.  I'm willing to send a teams invite to this = group for a potential timeslot, my proposal would be Wednesdays = alternating between 3pm Pacific (8am Japan, 11pm London). and 8am = Pacific (4pm London, 1am Tokyo).      

I = would suggest that we start next Wednesday = March 3, at 8am, even if it is just to discuss logistics and meet = each other.    For homework in advance of that meeting, I = think it would be interesting for each of us to talk briefly about how = we use SCIM today.  Are we service providers?  Clients?  = Are we relying on user & group data or providing it?  Have we = extended the spec locally? 

Unless anyone has a strong = objection about the time or alternating format, I will send the invite = above to this group, and we will see where a repeating meeting can take = us =F0=9F=99=82

Cheers,

Pamela


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