From nobody Mon Dec 14 21:08:22 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EE51B2AD1; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:08:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X7E7UuWTX664; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE621B2AFD; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 24797181D1B; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:05:40 -0800 (PST) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:ams_util_lib.php From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Message-Id: <20151215050540.24797181D1B@rfc-editor.org> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:05:40 -0800 (PST) Archived-At: Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, simple@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [Simple] RFC 7701 on Multi-party Chat Using the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 05:08:22 -0000 A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7701 Title: Multi-party Chat Using the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) Author: A. Niemi, M. Garcia-Martin, G. Sandbakken Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF Date: December 2015 Mailbox: aki.niemi@iki.fi, miguel.a.garcia@ericsson.com, geirsand@cisco.com Pages: 42 Characters: 99607 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-ietf-simple-chat-18.txt URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7701 DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7701 The Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) defines a mechanism for sending instant messages (IMs) within a peer-to-peer session, negotiated using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the Session Description Protocol (SDP). This document defines the necessary tools for establishing multi-party chat sessions, or chat rooms, using MSRP. This document is a product of the SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. To subscribe or unsubscribe, see https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce https://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist For searching the RFC series, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/search For downloading RFCs, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. Unless specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for unlimited distribution. The RFC Editor Team Association Management Solutions, LLC From nobody Mon Dec 14 22:03:52 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D36101B2B41 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:03:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lB_mm_5FO_jU for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 58E411B2B40 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.10] (cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id tBF63ZgK074363 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:03:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4] claimed to be [10.0.1.10] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "Miguel A. Garcia" , "Aki Niemi" , "Geir Arne Sandbakken" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:03:35 -0600 Message-ID: <462CD14B-C23E-4B36-9F52-5897830A4D01@nostrum.com> References: <20151215050540.24797181D1B@rfc-editor.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.3r5187) Archived-At: Cc: Barry Leiba , Alissa Cooper , Simple WG Subject: [Simple] Fwd: RFC 7701 on Multi-party Chat Using the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 06:03:52 -0000 HOORAY! Miguel, Aki, and Geir -- Thanks for seeing this through. (For anyone who has not followed this from the beginning--Version 00 was published in 2007. 00 of Aki's individual draft that this replaced was from 2004.) Ben. Forwarded message: > From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org > To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org > Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, simple@ietf.org, > rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org > Subject: [Simple] RFC 7701 on Multi-party Chat Using the Message > Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:05:40 -0800 (PST) > > A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. > > > RFC 7701 > > Title: Multi-party Chat Using the Message > Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) > Author: A. Niemi, M. Garcia-Martin, G. Sandbakken > Status: Standards Track > Stream: IETF > Date: December 2015 > Mailbox: aki.niemi@iki.fi, > miguel.a.garcia@ericsson.com, > geirsand@cisco.com > Pages: 42 > Characters: 99607 > Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None > > I-D Tag: draft-ietf-simple-chat-18.txt > > URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7701 > > DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7701 > > The Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) defines a mechanism for > sending instant messages (IMs) within a peer-to-peer session, > negotiated using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the > Session Description Protocol (SDP). This document defines the > necessary tools for establishing multi-party chat sessions, or chat > rooms, using MSRP. > > This document is a product of the SIP for Instant Messaging and > Presence Leveraging Extensions Working Group of the IETF. > > This is now a Proposed Standard. > > STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track > protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and > suggestions > for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official > Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for > the > standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of > this > memo is unlimited. > > This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. > To subscribe or unsubscribe, see > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce > https://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist > > For searching the RFC series, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/search > For downloading RFCs, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html > > Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the > author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. > Unless > specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for > unlimited distribution. > > > The RFC Editor Team > Association Management Solutions, LLC > > > _______________________________________________ > Simple mailing list > Simple@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From nobody Tue Dec 15 07:37:07 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE421A8F51 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:37:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.235 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.235 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GueWduQHG_Jw for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:37:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B7001A6F87 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:37:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from resomta-ch2-19v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.115]) by resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id trYn1r0012VvR6D01rd2SX; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:37:02 +0000 Received: from Paul-Kyzivats-MacBook-Pro.local ([73.218.51.154]) by resomta-ch2-19v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id trd21r0053KdFy101rd2Qt; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:37:02 +0000 To: simple@ietf.org References: <20151215050540.24797181D1B@rfc-editor.org> <462CD14B-C23E-4B36-9F52-5897830A4D01@nostrum.com> From: Paul Kyzivat Message-ID: <5670339D.8090706@alum.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:37:01 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <462CD14B-C23E-4B36-9F52-5897830A4D01@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20140121; t=1450193822; bh=A7+DfmTLGLVaKp80SqC/3LTrR1RIlAJmNOPI1kFwrv0=; h=Received:Received:Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=spDB3hd0I5z614sbiQucuiyXj8c5+j5MvVZyU4mkfQRaFDdn4jPyAz2Xgdeuyycvk X/WP1c/gIE6l4qAxk+mVgIipGT2oKdT0v0bwzO5geUCWOJJfxBYpY4d8gHgJ1PHEK5 lcoRzmmAHag5sqbuptTXz6eK/K7dJi7LAkU/iGnLKgAlL+bii9yxplG2+9Ex0vb2AZ lCyDWpAnZbixuMr+9QB5Ic7xE7UYsvZyz6fpMpCIB0r2FRhBXr2SgCfjaK4h2a2LqI IC6QzI1FstAl6Uu/K2VFJAzyj1wxoRYFKhMOj8mfwGOPFpUCpfH+xNJJK+uX+7PF5I gaC0xrQ5cSzmA== Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Simple] Fwd: RFC 7701 on Multi-party Chat Using the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:37:05 -0000 On 12/15/15 1:03 AM, Ben Campbell wrote: > HOORAY! > > Miguel, Aki, and Geir -- Thanks for seeing this through. > > (For anyone who has not followed this from the beginning--Version 00 was > published in 2007. 00 of Aki's individual draft that this replaced was > from 2004.) Yes, this is one of the longest delays I have seen. I've lost track of what caused the delay. Wasn't it hung up on dependencies? Thanks, Paul > Ben. > > Forwarded message: > >> From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org >> To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org >> Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, simple@ietf.org, >> rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org >> Subject: [Simple] RFC 7701 on Multi-party Chat Using the Message >> Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) >> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:05:40 -0800 (PST) >> >> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. >> >> >> RFC 7701 >> >> Title: Multi-party Chat Using the Message >> Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) >> Author: A. Niemi, M. Garcia-Martin, G. Sandbakken >> Status: Standards Track >> Stream: IETF >> Date: December 2015 >> Mailbox: aki.niemi@iki.fi, >> miguel.a.garcia@ericsson.com, >> geirsand@cisco.com >> Pages: 42 >> Characters: 99607 >> Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None >> >> I-D Tag: draft-ietf-simple-chat-18.txt >> >> URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7701 >> >> DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7701 >> >> The Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) defines a mechanism for >> sending instant messages (IMs) within a peer-to-peer session, >> negotiated using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the >> Session Description Protocol (SDP). This document defines the >> necessary tools for establishing multi-party chat sessions, or chat >> rooms, using MSRP. >> >> This document is a product of the SIP for Instant Messaging and >> Presence Leveraging Extensions Working Group of the IETF. >> >> This is now a Proposed Standard. >> >> STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track >> protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and >> suggestions >> for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Official >> Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) for >> the >> standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this >> memo is unlimited. >> >> This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. >> To subscribe or unsubscribe, see >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce >> https://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist >> >> For searching the RFC series, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/search >> For downloading RFCs, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html >> >> Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the >> author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. Unless >> specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for >> unlimited distribution. >> >> >> The RFC Editor Team >> Association Management Solutions, LLC >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simple mailing list >> Simple@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple > > _______________________________________________ > Simple mailing list > Simple@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple > From nobody Tue Dec 15 07:49:29 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47E41A900A for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:49:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fcx9pzn6h6Zw for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:49:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A43231A9029 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:49:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.10] (cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id tBFFnNiT050870 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:49:23 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4] claimed to be [10.0.1.10] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "Paul Kyzivat" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:49:22 -0600 Message-ID: <4972944C-2050-49E5-BC06-93355200D471@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <5670339D.8090706@alum.mit.edu> References: <20151215050540.24797181D1B@rfc-editor.org> <462CD14B-C23E-4B36-9F52-5897830A4D01@nostrum.com> <5670339D.8090706@alum.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.3r5187) Archived-At: Cc: simple@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Simple] RFC 7701 on Multi-party Chat Using the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:49:27 -0000 On 15 Dec 2015, at 9:37, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > On 12/15/15 1:03 AM, Ben Campbell wrote: >> HOORAY! >> >> Miguel, Aki, and Geir -- Thanks for seeing this through. >> >> (For anyone who has not followed this from the beginning--Version 00 >> was >> published in 2007. 00 of Aki's individual draft that this replaced >> was >> from 2004.) > > Yes, this is one of the longest delays I have seen. I've lost track of > what caused the delay. Wasn't it hung up on dependencies? It was hung up on i18n stuff. The main PRECIS spec was published minutes before this one. > > Thanks, > Paul > >> Ben. >> >> Forwarded message: >> >>> From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org >>> To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org >>> Cc: drafts-update-ref@iana.org, simple@ietf.org, >>> rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org >>> Subject: [Simple] RFC 7701 on Multi-party Chat Using the Message >>> Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) >>> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:05:40 -0800 (PST) >>> >>> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. >>> >>> >>> RFC 7701 >>> >>> Title: Multi-party Chat Using the Message >>> Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) >>> Author: A. Niemi, M. Garcia-Martin, G. Sandbakken >>> Status: Standards Track >>> Stream: IETF >>> Date: December 2015 >>> Mailbox: aki.niemi@iki.fi, >>> miguel.a.garcia@ericsson.com, >>> geirsand@cisco.com >>> Pages: 42 >>> Characters: 99607 >>> Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None >>> >>> I-D Tag: draft-ietf-simple-chat-18.txt >>> >>> URL: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc7701 >>> >>> DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.17487/RFC7701 >>> >>> The Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) defines a mechanism for >>> sending instant messages (IMs) within a peer-to-peer session, >>> negotiated using the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the >>> Session Description Protocol (SDP). This document defines the >>> necessary tools for establishing multi-party chat sessions, or chat >>> rooms, using MSRP. >>> >>> This document is a product of the SIP for Instant Messaging and >>> Presence Leveraging Extensions Working Group of the IETF. >>> >>> This is now a Proposed Standard. >>> >>> STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet Standards Track >>> protocol for the Internet community, and requests discussion and >>> suggestions >>> for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the >>> Official >>> Internet Protocol Standards (https://www.rfc-editor.org/standards) >>> for >>> the >>> standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of >>> this >>> memo is unlimited. >>> >>> This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe, see >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce >>> https://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist >>> >>> For searching the RFC series, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/search >>> For downloading RFCs, see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html >>> >>> Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the >>> author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. >>> Unless >>> specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for >>> unlimited distribution. >>> >>> >>> The RFC Editor Team >>> Association Management Solutions, LLC >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Simple mailing list >>> Simple@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Simple mailing list >> Simple@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple >> > > _______________________________________________ > Simple mailing list > Simple@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple From nobody Tue Dec 15 07:52:50 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D4EB1A905D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:52:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M5tLszzWNNUn for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7DBC71A901C for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 07:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.10] (cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id tBFFqITe051136 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:52:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4] claimed to be [10.0.1.10] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "Paul Kyzivat" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:52:17 -0600 Message-ID: <34B78AB3-BD5E-48B7-B4E8-077281B89488@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <4972944C-2050-49E5-BC06-93355200D471@nostrum.com> References: <20151215050540.24797181D1B@rfc-editor.org> <462CD14B-C23E-4B36-9F52-5897830A4D01@nostrum.com> <5670339D.8090706@alum.mit.edu> <4972944C-2050-49E5-BC06-93355200D471@nostrum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.3r5187) Archived-At: Cc: simple@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Simple] RFC 7701 on Multi-party Chat Using the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP) X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:52:48 -0000 On 15 Dec 2015, at 9:49, Ben Campbell wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015, at 9:37, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > >> On 12/15/15 1:03 AM, Ben Campbell wrote: >>> HOORAY! >>> >>> Miguel, Aki, and Geir -- Thanks for seeing this through. >>> >>> (For anyone who has not followed this from the beginning--Version 00 >>> was >>> published in 2007. 00 of Aki's individual draft that this replaced >>> was >>> from 2004.) >> >> Yes, this is one of the longest delays I have seen. I've lost track >> of what caused the delay. Wasn't it hung up on dependencies? > > It was hung up on i18n stuff. The main PRECIS spec was published > minutes before this one. Oops, I meant the PRECIS Nickname draft. From nobody Tue Dec 15 08:17:31 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B370B1A908B for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:17:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.91 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.91 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vvOWITRN3TpZ for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D9EAC1A1A90 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 08:16:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.10] (cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPSA id tBFGGqOQ053346 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:16:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-119-203-4.tx.res.rr.com [70.119.203.4] claimed to be [10.0.1.10] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "Simple WG" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:16:51 -0600 Message-ID: <4700019B-0817-46EB-A2E4-C0940621482C@nostrum.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.3r5187) Archived-At: Subject: [Simple] Closing of SIMPLE mailing list X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 16:17:30 -0000 Hi Everyone, The SIMPLE working group officially closed some time ago, but we kept the mail list open for any additional discussion. With the recent publication of simple-chat as an RFC, all of it's documents have been published. The mailing list will close shortly. If people find new things to work on that would have been related to SIMPLE, please take them to DISPATCH. I'd like to thank everyone who worked on SIMPLE for all their years of hard work. Thanks! Ben. From nobody Tue Dec 15 09:40:43 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F911A9098 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:40:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.989 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.989 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ik_UGtHfSABT for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sipthor.net (node16.dns-hosting.info [81.23.228.161]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8A91A8F3D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.17] (r179-28-2-67.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy [179.28.2.67]) by mail.sipthor.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B77E16DC6BE; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:40:36 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Adrian Georgescu In-Reply-To: <4700019B-0817-46EB-A2E4-C0940621482C@nostrum.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 14:40:35 -0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4700019B-0817-46EB-A2E4-C0940621482C@nostrum.com> To: Ben Campbell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: Simple WG Subject: Re: [Simple] Closing of SIMPLE mailing list X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:40:43 -0000 It was a great ride! Adrian > On 15 Dec 2015, at 13:16, Ben Campbell wrote: >=20 > Hi Everyone, >=20 > The SIMPLE working group officially closed some time ago, but we kept = the mail list open for any additional discussion. With the recent = publication of simple-chat as an RFC, all of it's documents have been = published. The mailing list will close shortly. If people find new = things to work on that would have been related to SIMPLE, please take = them to DISPATCH. >=20 > I'd like to thank everyone who worked on SIMPLE for all their years of = hard work. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Ben. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Simple mailing list > Simple@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple >=20 From nobody Tue Dec 15 10:31:40 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: simple@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0341A9151 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:31:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.266 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.266 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J3kYEOV7IhBP for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx0b-0018ba01.pphosted.com (mx0a-0018ba01.pphosted.com [67.231.149.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A57B11ABD3D for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 10:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0078666.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-0018ba01.pphosted.com (8.15.0.59/8.15.0.59) with SMTP id tBFIV5Gf024746; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:31:19 -0500 Received: from stntexhc10.cis.neustar.com ([156.154.17.216]) by mx0a-0018ba01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1ytfxth2xa-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:31:19 -0500 Received: from STNTEXMB10.cis.neustar.com ([169.254.5.186]) by stntexhc10.cis.neustar.com ([169.254.4.121]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Tue, 15 Dec 2015 13:31:17 -0500 From: "Peterson, Jon" To: Adrian Georgescu , Ben Campbell Thread-Topic: [Simple] Closing of SIMPLE mailing list Thread-Index: AQHRN1QfkA6YG0GrxkaTYrUaAEzl757MpJGA//+ICAA= Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:31:17 +0000 Message-ID: References: <4700019B-0817-46EB-A2E4-C0940621482C@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.7.151005 x-originating-ip: [192.168.128.142] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <36FC3AEE24C13348B35452FB8CD5B832@neustar.biz> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:, , definitions=2015-12-15_10:, , signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 kscore.is_bulkscore=0 kscore.compositescore=1 compositescore=0.9 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 kscore.is_spamscore=0 rbsscore=0.9 spamscore=0 urlsuspectscore=0.9 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1507310007 definitions=main-1512150298 Archived-At: Cc: Simple WG Subject: Re: [Simple] Closing of SIMPLE mailing list X-BeenThere: simple@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:31:40 -0000 Seriously. Jon Peterson Neustar, Inc. On 12/15/15, 9:40 AM, "Simple on behalf of Adrian Georgescu" wrote: >It was a great ride! > >Adrian > >> On 15 Dec 2015, at 13:16, Ben Campbell wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Everyone, >>=20 >> The SIMPLE working group officially closed some time ago, but we kept >>the mail list open for any additional discussion. With the recent >>publication of simple-chat as an RFC, all of it's documents have been >>published. The mailing list will close shortly. If people find new >>things to work on that would have been related to SIMPLE, please take >>them to DISPATCH. >>=20 >> I'd like to thank everyone who worked on SIMPLE for all their years of >>hard work. >>=20 >> Thanks! >>=20 >> Ben. >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Simple mailing list >> Simple@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple >>=20 > >_______________________________________________ >Simple mailing list >Simple@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple