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Hi Folks,

Just checking to see if anyone has any comments on the ciphersuits draft?

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ciphersuites-in-sec-syslog/01/

In there, we have a placeholder for 0-RTT. Any suggestions about that 
will be greatly welcome.

Thanks and Regards,

Chris


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From: Syslog <syslog-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Meiling Chen <chenmeili=
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Hi folks,=0A=
This draft is about syslog which used to improve logging credibility by add=
ing synchronization time information.=0A=
The trigger of this draft is that we found the attack vulnerability of sysl=
og time synchronization during the experiment, the purpose is to improve rf=
c5424 with a slight modification.=0A=
And the draft aimed at the discussion of credibility when the value "1" is =
used for "isSynced".=0A=
We have received some suggestions from Sean and lonvick, will also update t=
he version after open submission.=0A=
If anyone is interested in this topic, please feel free to comment.=0A=
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There is no syslog WG in the IETF so if the work is to progress, it likely =
needs to find a home in a a WG that is.=0A=
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Tom Petch=0A=
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Best,=0A=
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From: internet-drafts<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>=0A=
Date: 2022-03-07 10:18=0A=
To: Fengsheng Wang<mailto:wangfengsheng@chinamobile.com>; Li Su<mailto:suli=
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   This document proposes a scheme to improve the credibility of log=0A=
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   This document updates the "timeQuality" structured Data in RFC 5424=0A=
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Hi Folks,=0A=
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Just checking to see if anyone has any comments on the ciphersuits draft?=
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Since there is no syslog WG in the IETF, I think that this I-D is in need o=
f a home if it is to progress, then perhaps a name change.  As intensely as=
 I dislike changing an I-D name, except at adoption, since it makes the wor=
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In there, we have a placeholder for 0-RTT. Any suggestions about that=0A=
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issue. We have received some suggestions from the working group.&nbsp;</di=
v><div>Of course, we also hope to get more suggestions by sending them on =
the email list.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Meiling<span styl=
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#efefef; PADDING-BOTTOM: 8px; PADDING-TOP: 8px"><div><b>From:</b>&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ietfc@btconnect.com">tom petch</a></div><div><b>Date:</b>&n=
bsp;2022-03-28&nbsp;19:24</div><div><b>To:</b>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:chen=
meiling@chinamobile.com">Meiling Chen</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:syslog@ietf.o=
rg">syslog</a></div><div><b>CC:</b>&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:suli@chinamobil=
e.com">suli</a></div><div><b>Subject:</b>&nbsp;Re: [Syslog] Fw: New Versio=
n Notification for draft-chen-syslog-syscinfo-credibility-00.txt</div></di=
v></div><div><div>From: Syslog &lt;syslog-bounces@ietf.org&gt; on behalf o=
f Meiling Chen &lt;chenmeiling@chinamobile.com&gt;</div>=0A<div>Sent: 15 M=
arch 2022 01:52</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Hi folks,</div>=0A<div>Th=
is draft is about syslog which used to improve logging credibility by addi=
ng synchronization time information.</div>=0A<div>The trigger of this draf=
t is that we found the attack vulnerability of syslog time synchronization=
 during the experiment, the purpose is to improve rfc5424 with a slight mo=
dification.</div>=0A<div>And the draft aimed at the discussion of credibil=
ity when the value "1" is used for "isSynced".</div>=0A<div>We have receiv=
ed some suggestions from Sean and lonvick, will also update the version af=
ter open submission.</div>=0A<div>If anyone is interested in this topic, p=
lease feel free to comment.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>&lt;tp&gt;</d=
iv>=0A<div>There is no syslog WG in the IETF so if the work is to progress=
, it likely needs to find a home in a a WG that is.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</d=
iv>=0A<div>Tom Petch</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Best,</div>=0A<div>M=
eiling</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>From: internet-drafts&lt;mailto:in=
ternet-drafts@ietf.org&gt;</div>=0A<div>Date: 2022-03-07 10:18</div>=0A<di=
v>To: Fengsheng Wang&lt;mailto:wangfengsheng@chinamobile.com&gt;; Li Su&lt=
;mailto:suli@chinamobile.com&gt;; Meiling Chen&lt;mailto:chenmeiling@china=
mobile.com&gt;; chenmeiling&lt;mailto:chenmeiling@chinamobile.com&gt;</div=
>=0A<div>Subject: New Version Notification for draft-chen-syslog-syscinfo-=
credibility-00.txt</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>A new version of I-D, =
draft-chen-syslog-syscinfo-credibility-00.txt</div>=0A<div>has been succes=
sfully submitted by Meiling Chen and posted to the</div>=0A<div>IETF repos=
itory.</div>=0A<div>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Name: draft-chen-syslog-syscinfo-c=
redibility</div>=0A<div>Revision: 00</div>=0A<div>Title: Improve logging c=
redibility by adding synchronization time information</div>=0A<div>Documen=
t date: 2022-03-06</div>=0A<div>Group: Individual Submission</div>=0A<div>=
Pages: 6</div>=0A<div>URL:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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nfo-credibility-00.txt</div>=0A<div>Status:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-syslog-sysci=
nfo-credibility/</div>=0A<div>Html:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
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bsp; This document updates the "timeQuality" structured Data in RFC 5424</=
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