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Dear Authors,

Have a look at the errors at 
http://www.claise.be/IETFYANGPageCompilation.html

Regards, Benoit


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links of the IETF.

        Title           : TRILL Transparent Transport over MPLS
        Authors         : Mohammed Umair
                          Kingston Smiler Selvaraj
                          Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
                          Lucy Yong
	Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-transport-over-mpls-03.txt
	Pages           : 16
	Date            : 2017-04-08

Abstract:
   This document specifies how to interconnect multiple Transparent
   Interconnection of Lots of links (TRILL) sites with an intervening
   MPLS network using existing TRILL and VPLS standards. This draft
   addresses two problems as follows:

   1) Providing connection between more than two TRILL sites that
   are separated by MPLS an provider network.

   2) Providing a single logical virtualized TRILL network for
   different tenants that are separated by an MPLS provider network.





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Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate QA reviewer for this
draft. For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

At this stage, the intend of the following is not to discuss the WG's
decision about the I-D, but rather to help improving its content.

Please note that, even though I have reviewed a few TRILL I-Ds in the
past, I do not consider myself as being fluent in TRILL (yet?).

_Summary_
The document defines a protocol extension which looks both correctly
motivated and correctly scoped. However, the current wording of the
behavior requires some improvement to become clear enough to someone who
has not followed the associated discussions.

_Comments_
There are mainly 2 sections which deserve improvement.

First, the 3rd paragraph in section 3.2 is requires that "global Data
Labels are disabled". Without more background, the phrase could refer to:
- no global label is used/advertised,
- received global labels are ignored/dropped,
- received global labels are explicitly refused,
- global labels are not distinguished from local labels (as suggested by
the parenthesis).
>From the following sentence, I understand that a legacy RBridge may
benefit from global trees, however does it makes sense if that legacy
RBridge is in a level 1 area and "MUST guarantee that global Data Labels
are disabled"?

Then, in section 4.3, I faced several (minor) issues.

1- The calculation of the length field seems incorrect. The formula
looks aligned on the 1st figure on pages 9/10, depicting Nickname Blocks
as 16-bit fields, however the bottom of page 10 defines them as 32 bits.
As a result, the figure should extend the Nickname Block fields up to 2
"lines" and the length calculation would thus change to "2 + 4*K".

2- The definition of the set OK flag has puzzled me. Assuming it is
meant to enable a border RBridge to advertise the Nickname Blocks
associated to its attached Level 1 area, its definition is currently
specified in a Level 1 context, and then scoped to both Levels 1 and 2.
However, the definition wording for Level 1 is not applicable to Level
2. This could certainly be addressed either by a more generic definition
(e.g. "Blocks associated to its attached Level 1 area") or by a 2-step
definition:
- "advertisement in Level 1 means...",
- "advertisement in Level 2 means...".

_Nits_
Page 3:
- s/referred as the "unique nickname"/referred to as the "unique nickname"/
- s/that are transitions between/that transition between/
- s/RBrides/RBridges/

On figure 3.1, area boudaries looked odd, how about...

          Area X                level 2             Area Y
    +-----------------+ +---------------------+ +------------+
    |                 | |                     | |            |
  S---RB27---Rx--Rz---RB2---Rb---Rc--Rd---Re--RB3---Rk--RB44---D
    |     27          | |                     | |     44     |
    |                 | |                     | |            |
    +-----------------+ +---------------------+ +------------+

On page 4:
- s/Let's say/Let us say/
- s/let's say/let us say/

On page 5:
- s/only different is/only difference is/

On Figure 3.2, I assume that the order of the names on the first line
does not change anything, but I have been puzzled not to find RB2 as the
list head. Have you considered putting it as the 1st one of the list?

On page 9, the word "artificial" seems both odd and useless.

In section 5, RFC 7176 is used as a fallback mechanism for incompatible
RBridges. What about its uses in other cases? Is it still allowed
(though less efficient) or precluded? A clarification would be useful
(maybe in section 4.3).

On page 13, "TreeSel" is now RFC 7968.


Regards,

Julien


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links of the IETF.

        Title           : TRILL: ARP/ND Optimization
        Authors         : Yizhou Li
                          Donald Eastlake
                          Linda Dunbar
                          Radia Perlman
                          Mohammed Umair
	Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-08.txt
	Pages           : 14
	Date            : 2017-04-16

Abstract:
   This document describes mechanisms to optimize the ARP (Address
   Resolution Protocol) and ND (Neighbor Discovery) traffic in TRILL
   campus. Such optimization reduces packet flooding over a TRILL
   campus.



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Working Group Name: Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links
Area Name: Routing Area
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Number of Sessions: 1
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This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links of the IETF.

        Title           : TRILL Transparent Transport over MPLS
        Authors         : Mohammed Umair
                          Kingston Smiler Selvaraj
                          Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
                          Lucy Yong
	Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-transport-over-mpls-04.txt
	Pages           : 17
	Date            : 2017-04-20

Abstract:
   This document specifies how to interconnect multiple Transparent
   Interconnection of Lots of links (TRILL) sites with an intervening
   MPLS network using existing TRILL and VPLS standards. This draft
   addresses two problems as follows:

   1) Providing connection between more than two TRILL sites that
   are separated by MPLS an provider network.

   2) Providing a single logical virtualized TRILL network for
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>We did not receive any comments on the WGLC for draft->ietf-p2mp-bfd-04.txt
>(https://www.ietf.org/mail->archive/web/trill/current/msg07692.html <https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/trill/current/msg07692.html>).
>Perhaps this was because I started the WG LC during >Chinese new year.   We
>will try a second WG LC before declaring "no support for >this draft"



>In your comments please consider,

>1)      Does the support of multi-point BFD aid >deployments?

>2)      Are the suggested additions to RFC7177 >bootstrapping sufficient for
>this technology?

>3)      Do you feel this technology is ready for >standardization?



I do support this draft and think it is good for standardisation.

Thanks
Santosh P K

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links of the IETF.

        Title           : Alternatives for Multilevel TRILL (Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links)
        Authors         : Radia Perlman
                          Donald Eastlake
                          Mingui Zhang
                          Anoop Ghanwani
                          Hongjun Zhai
	Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-multilevel-05.txt
	Pages           : 33
	Date            : 2017-04-27

Abstract:
   Although TRILL is based on IS-IS, which supports multilevel unicast
   routing, extending TRILL to multiple levels has challenges that are
   not addressed by the already-existing capabilities of IS-IS.  One
   issue is with the handling of multi-destination packet distribution
   trees. Other issues are with TRILL switch nicknames. How are such
   nicknames allocated across a multilevel TRILL network? Do nicknames
   need to be unique across an entire multilevel TRILL network or can
   they merely be unique within each multilevel area?

   This informational document enumerates and examines alternatives
   based on a number of factors including backward compatibility,
   simplicity, and scalability and makes recommendations in some cases.





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This revision includes changes based on AD review as discussed at
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/trill/current/msg07618.html

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On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 1:27 PM,  <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : Alternatives for Multilevel TRILL (Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links)
>         Authors         : Radia Perlman
>                           Donald Eastlake
>                           Mingui Zhang
>                           Anoop Ghanwani
>                           Hongjun Zhai
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-multilevel-05.txt
>         Pages           : 33
>         Date            : 2017-04-27
>
> Abstract:
>    Although TRILL is based on IS-IS, which supports multilevel unicast
>    routing, extending TRILL to multiple levels has challenges that are
>    not addressed by the already-existing capabilities of IS-IS.  One
>    issue is with the handling of multi-destination packet distribution
>    trees. Other issues are with TRILL switch nicknames. How are such
>    nicknames allocated across a multilevel TRILL network? Do nicknames
>    need to be unique across an entire multilevel TRILL network or can
>    they merely be unique within each multilevel area?
>
>    This informational document enumerates and examines alternatives
>    based on a number of factors including backward compatibility,
>    simplicity, and scalability and makes recommendations in some cases.
>
>
>
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-multilevel/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-multilevel-05
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-multilevel-05
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-multilevel-05
>
>
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More complete draft minutes of the TRILL WG meeting at IETF 98 in
Chicago have been uploaded. See
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links of the IETF.

        Title           : TRILL (Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links) over IP
        Authors         : Margaret Cullen
                          Donald Eastlake
                          Mingui Zhang
                          Dacheng Zhang
	Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-over-ip-09.txt
	Pages           : 40
	Date            : 2017-04-30

Abstract:
   The TRILL (Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links) protocol
   supports both point-to-point and multi-access links and is designed
   so that a variety of link protocols can be used between TRILL switch
   ports. This document specifies transmission of encapsulated TRILL
   data and TRILL IS-IS over IP (v4 or v6). so as to use an IP network
   as a TRILL link in a unified TRILL campus. The encapsulations
   specified herein are UDP based but provision is made to negotiate
   other encapsulations that need not be UDP based. This document
   updates RFC 7177 and updates RFC 7178.



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