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S 2.

   plane on the edge RBridges, it should be possible to completely
   suppress flooding of ARP/ND messages in a TRILL Campus, When all end-
   station MAC addresses are similarly known, it should be possible to
   suppress unknown unicast flooding by dropping any unknown unicast
   received at an edge RBridge.

Are these "should be possibles" normative? Descriptive?

S 4.
This is a sequence of steps, so it would be nice to preface them with
a list of the steps. It's also odd to have SEND considerations right
in the middle here.


4.3 Get Sender's IP/MAC Mapping Information for Non-zero IP
Please explain what a non-zero IP is and why it's relevant.
This graf also needs an introductory sentence or something before
the bullets.


S 4.4.
   It is not essential that all RBridges use the same strategy for which
   option to select for a particular ARP/ND query. It is up to the
   implementation.

This seems inconsistent with the MUST in arm (b) below, because I
can just take some other arm. It's also kind of surprising to be this
non-prescriptive.


S 8.
   some other location (MAC/VM Mobility) and gets connected to egde-

Nit: edge is mispelled.



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Hi Eric,

Thanks for clearing your DISCUSS. See responses below to your
remaining COMMENTs.

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
>
> Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-09: No Objection
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMMENT:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> S 2.
>
>    plane on the edge RBridges, it should be possible to completely
>    suppress flooding of ARP/ND messages in a TRILL Campus, When all end-
>    station MAC addresses are similarly known, it should be possible to
>    suppress unknown unicast flooding by dropping any unknown unicast
>    received at an edge RBridge.
>
> Are these "should be possibles" normative? Descriptive?

The following sentence was added earlier in Section 2 to make it clear
that these were not normative:
   "This section is a general discussion of this
   problem and is not intended to be normative."

> S 4.
> This is a sequence of steps, so it would be nice to preface them with
> a list of the steps. It's also odd to have SEND considerations right
> in the middle here.
>
> 4.3 Get Sender's IP/MAC Mapping Information for Non-zero IP
> Please explain what a non-zero IP is and why it's relevant.
> This graf also needs an introductory sentence or something before
> the bullets.

Section 4.3 has been re-named. "non-zero" no longer occurs anywhere in
this document. An introductory paragraph was added before the bullets.

> S 4.4.
>    It is not essential that all RBridges use the same strategy for which
>    option to select for a particular ARP/ND query. It is up to the
>    implementation.
>
> This seems inconsistent with the MUST in arm (b) below, because I
> can just take some other arm. It's also kind of surprising to be this
> non-prescriptive.

This is not actually inconsistent. The paragraph at the beginning of
Section 4.4 explains that which lettered "arm" you take is fixed by
the situation; it is an implementation choice which numbered sub-arm
to take under each lettered arm.

> S 8.
>    some other location (MAC/VM Mobility) and gets connected to egde-
>
> Nit: edge is mispelled.

As far as I can see, the misspelling of edge has been fixed in -09.

Thanks,
Donald
===============================
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Sorry, this is just the result of bad tooling combined with lack of coffee.
When you change a Discuss to a No Objection it keeps the comments. I agree
the current text is fine.

On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Eric,
>
> Thanks for clearing your DISCUSS. See responses below to your
> remaining COMMENTs.
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-09: No Objection
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > COMMENT:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > S 2.
> >
> >    plane on the edge RBridges, it should be possible to completely
> >    suppress flooding of ARP/ND messages in a TRILL Campus, When all end-
> >    station MAC addresses are similarly known, it should be possible to
> >    suppress unknown unicast flooding by dropping any unknown unicast
> >    received at an edge RBridge.
> >
> > Are these "should be possibles" normative? Descriptive?
>
> The following sentence was added earlier in Section 2 to make it clear
> that these were not normative:
>    "This section is a general discussion of this
>    problem and is not intended to be normative."
>
> > S 4.
> > This is a sequence of steps, so it would be nice to preface them with
> > a list of the steps. It's also odd to have SEND considerations right
> > in the middle here.
> >
> > 4.3 Get Sender's IP/MAC Mapping Information for Non-zero IP
> > Please explain what a non-zero IP is and why it's relevant.
> > This graf also needs an introductory sentence or something before
> > the bullets.
>
> Section 4.3 has been re-named. "non-zero" no longer occurs anywhere in
> this document. An introductory paragraph was added before the bullets.
>
> > S 4.4.
> >    It is not essential that all RBridges use the same strategy for which
> >    option to select for a particular ARP/ND query. It is up to the
> >    implementation.
> >
> > This seems inconsistent with the MUST in arm (b) below, because I
> > can just take some other arm. It's also kind of surprising to be this
> > non-prescriptive.
>
> This is not actually inconsistent. The paragraph at the beginning of
> Section 4.4 explains that which lettered "arm" you take is fixed by
> the situation; it is an implementation choice which numbered sub-arm
> to take under each lettered arm.
>
> > S 8.
> >    some other location (MAC/VM Mobility) and gets connected to egde-
> >
> > Nit: edge is mispelled.
>
> As far as I can see, the misspelling of edge has been fixed in -09.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
> ===============================
>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>  155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA
>  d3e3e3@gmail.com
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry, this is just the result of bad tooling combined wit=
h lack of coffee. When you change a Discuss to a No Objection it keeps the =
comments. I agree the current text is fine.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Donald East=
lake <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:d3e3e3@gmail.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">d3e3e3@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">Hi Eric,<br>
<br>
Thanks for clearing your DISCUSS. See responses below to your<br>
remaining COMMENTs.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Eric Rescorla &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ekr@rtf=
m.com">ekr@rtfm.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for<br>
&gt; draft-ietf-trill-arp-<wbr>optimization-09: No Objection<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
</span><span class=3D"">&gt; ------------------------------<wbr>-----------=
-------------------<wbr>----------<br>
&gt; COMMENT:<br>
&gt; ------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>=
----------<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; S 2.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 plane on the edge RBridges, it should be possible to comp=
letely<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 suppress flooding of ARP/ND messages in a TRILL Campus, W=
hen all end-<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 station MAC addresses are similarly known, it should be p=
ossible to<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 suppress unknown unicast flooding by dropping any unknown=
 unicast<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 received at an edge RBridge.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Are these &quot;should be possibles&quot; normative? Descriptive?<br>
<br>
</span>The following sentence was added earlier in Section 2 to make it cle=
ar<br>
that these were not normative:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0&quot;This section is a general discussion of this<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0problem and is not intended to be normative.&quot;<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
&gt; S 4.<br>
&gt; This is a sequence of steps, so it would be nice to preface them with<=
br>
&gt; a list of the steps. It&#39;s also odd to have SEND considerations rig=
ht<br>
&gt; in the middle here.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 4.3 Get Sender&#39;s IP/MAC Mapping Information for Non-zero IP<br>
&gt; Please explain what a non-zero IP is and why it&#39;s relevant.<br>
&gt; This graf also needs an introductory sentence or something before<br>
&gt; the bullets.<br>
<br>
</span>Section 4.3 has been re-named. &quot;non-zero&quot; no longer occurs=
 anywhere in<br>
this document. An introductory paragraph was added before the bullets.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
&gt; S 4.4.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 It is not essential that all RBridges use the same strate=
gy for which<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 option to select for a particular ARP/ND query. It is up =
to the<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 implementation.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This seems inconsistent with the MUST in arm (b) below, because I<br>
&gt; can just take some other arm. It&#39;s also kind of surprising to be t=
his<br>
&gt; non-prescriptive.<br>
<br>
</span>This is not actually inconsistent. The paragraph at the beginning of=
<br>
Section 4.4 explains that which lettered &quot;arm&quot; you take is fixed =
by<br>
the situation; it is an implementation choice which numbered sub-arm<br>
to take under each lettered arm.<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
&gt; S 8.<br>
&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 some other location (MAC/VM Mobility) and gets connected =
to egde-<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Nit: edge is mispelled.<br>
<br>
</span>As far as I can see, the misspelling of edge has been fixed in -09.<=
br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Donald<br>
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Oh.

OK, Thanks,
Donald
===============================
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 d3e3e3@gmail.com


On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> Sorry, this is just the result of bad tooling combined with lack of coffee.
> When you change a Discuss to a No Objection it keeps the comments. I agree
> the current text is fine.
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 6:26 AM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Thanks for clearing your DISCUSS. See responses below to your
>> remaining COMMENTs.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Eric Rescorla has entered the following ballot position for
>> > draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-09: No Objection
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > COMMENT:
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > S 2.
>> >
>> >    plane on the edge RBridges, it should be possible to completely
>> >    suppress flooding of ARP/ND messages in a TRILL Campus, When all end-
>> >    station MAC addresses are similarly known, it should be possible to
>> >    suppress unknown unicast flooding by dropping any unknown unicast
>> >    received at an edge RBridge.
>> >
>> > Are these "should be possibles" normative? Descriptive?
>>
>> The following sentence was added earlier in Section 2 to make it clear
>> that these were not normative:
>>    "This section is a general discussion of this
>>    problem and is not intended to be normative."
>>
>> > S 4.
>> > This is a sequence of steps, so it would be nice to preface them with
>> > a list of the steps. It's also odd to have SEND considerations right
>> > in the middle here.
>> >
>> > 4.3 Get Sender's IP/MAC Mapping Information for Non-zero IP
>> > Please explain what a non-zero IP is and why it's relevant.
>> > This graf also needs an introductory sentence or something before
>> > the bullets.
>>
>> Section 4.3 has been re-named. "non-zero" no longer occurs anywhere in
>> this document. An introductory paragraph was added before the bullets.
>>
>> > S 4.4.
>> >    It is not essential that all RBridges use the same strategy for which
>> >    option to select for a particular ARP/ND query. It is up to the
>> >    implementation.
>> >
>> > This seems inconsistent with the MUST in arm (b) below, because I
>> > can just take some other arm. It's also kind of surprising to be this
>> > non-prescriptive.
>>
>> This is not actually inconsistent. The paragraph at the beginning of
>> Section 4.4 explains that which lettered "arm" you take is fixed by
>> the situation; it is an implementation choice which numbered sub-arm
>> to take under each lettered arm.
>>
>> > S 8.
>> >    some other location (MAC/VM Mobility) and gets connected to egde-
>> >
>> > Nit: edge is mispelled.
>>
>> As far as I can see, the misspelling of edge has been fixed in -09.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Donald
>> ===============================
>>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>>  155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA
>>  d3e3e3@gmail.com
>
>


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Hi,

This is a final call for presentations to the TRILL WG meeting
Thursday afternoon at the IETF Singapore meeting this coming week. If
you would like to present either respond to me or to
trill-chairs@ietf.org or to this mailing list.

Thanks,
Donald
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This begins a 2 week WG LC for draft-ietf-trill-transport-over-MPLS
(11/11/2017 to 11/25/2017).  Please consider if this draft is ready for
publication.   In this consideration please consider:

 

1)      Does TRILL need to run over MPLS?  Some data centers are
interconnected over MPLS.  Does this capability aid in deployment of TRILL?

2)      Is this specification ready for publication?  

3)      Do you know of any problems with this specification?

 

 

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Hi,

Note that the TRILL WG Meeting in Singapore has been moved earlier from
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15:50 to 17:20 slot in the VIP A Room.

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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'TRILL: ARP/ND Optimization'
  (draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization-09.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of
Links Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Alia Atlas and Deborah Brungard.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization/





Technical Summary

This document describes mechanisms to optimize the ARP (Address
   Resolution Protocol) and ND (Neighbor Discovery) traffic in TRILL
   campus. Such optimization reduces packet flooding over a TRILL
   campus.

This WG Draft is part of a directory service solution 
that has been discussed for 3 years.  Consensus 
is strong on the complete solution. 
This was sent back to the WG to resolve Discusses about
SEND & the draft is now believed to do that.

Document Quality
a) Are there existing implementations of the protocol? 

 No, and this draft is part of a 4 draft directory service dealing
 with directory services.  The four drafts are: 
 draft-ietf-trill-directory-assist-mechanisms () - describes the push/pull
 draft-ietf-trill-channel-tunnel-05 - secure tunnel for directory push
 draft-ietf-trill-ia-appsubtlv-05 - reporting of addresses for TRILL interfaces
    in ISIS application sub-TLV (reduces/replaces need for ARP/ND )
 draft-ietf-trill-arp-optimization - mechanism to optimize ARP and ND traffic
    on TRILL campus 
 
 b) Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to 
  implement the specification?
  
  Directory service mechanism are currently implemented as proprietary 
  fashions by every vendor that does some variant of TRILL (cisco, brocade, Huawei
  and others).  Until we get a full standard solution approved, the 
  existing vendors with "early TRILL" implementations have little reason
  to switch. 

  Huawei is planning implementations. Potentially Brocade and Cisco
  could switch to these mechanisms, but unless IETF standards are out
  as a set - this may not occur.   

 Shepherd review: 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/trill/SVmP0QNwY3UaVhbjkweULl1ZxLE
Revision -01 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/i-d-announce/2hbdxmCfRW34_AgGaBC0mGGJMF8
(note: no change to RFC2119 text, Shepherd is checking on the right RFC2199 text). 
  
Routing QA review: Eric Gray
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtg-dir/current/msg02606.html

Personnel

AD: Alia Atlas
Document Shepherd: Susan Hares 


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links WG of the IETF.

        Title           : TRILL: Multi-Topology
        Authors         : Donald Eastlake
                          Mingui Zhang
                          Ayan Banerjee
	Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-multi-topology-05.txt
	Pages           : 25
	Date            : 2017-11-12

Abstract:
   This document specifies extensions to the IETF TRILL (Transparent
   Interconnection of Lots of Links) protocol to support multi-topology
   routing of unicast and multi-destination traffic based on IS-IS
   (Intermediate System to Intermediate System) multi-topology specified
   in RFC 5120. This document updates RFC 6325 and RFC 7177.




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Hi,

This was a trivial update to change references to
draft-ietf-trill-rfc6439bis to be references to RFC 8139 and to avoid
expiration.

Note that this draft is still in WG Last Call. Please post indicating your
opinion on the draft.

Thanks,
Donald
===============================
 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA
 d3e3e3@gmail.com

On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 10:27 PM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of
> Links WG of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : TRILL: Multi-Topology
>         Authors         : Donald Eastlake
>                           Mingui Zhang
>                           Ayan Banerjee
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-multi-topology-05.txt
>         Pages           : 25
>         Date            : 2017-11-12
>
> Abstract:
>    This document specifies extensions to the IETF TRILL (Transparent
>    Interconnection of Lots of Links) protocol to support multi-topology
>    routing of unicast and multi-destination traffic based on IS-IS
>    (Intermediate System to Intermediate System) multi-topology specified
>    in RFC 5120. This document updates RFC 6325 and RFC 7177.
>
>
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-multi-topology/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-trill-multi-topology-05
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-trill-multi-topology-05
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-trill-multi-topology-05
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>This was a trivial update to change=
 references to draft-ietf-trill-rfc6439bis to be references to RFC 8139 and=
 to avoid expiration.</div><div><br></div><div>Note that this draft is stil=
l in WG Last Call. Please post indicating your opinion on the draft.</div><=
div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature=
" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Thanks,<br>Donald<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D<br>=C2=A0Donald E. Eastlake 3rd =C2=A0 +1-508-333-2270 (cell)<br>=C2=A0=
155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA<br>=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:d3e3e3@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">d3e3e3@gmail.com</a></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 10:27 PM,  <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">=
internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex"><br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.<br>
This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Lin=
ks WG of the IETF.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Dona=
ld Eastlake<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mingui Zhang<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ayan Banerjee<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet=
f-trill-multi-<wbr>topology-05.txt<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 :=
 2017-11-12<br>
<br>
Abstract:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This document specifies extensions to the IETF TRILL (Transpar=
ent<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Interconnection of Lots of Links) protocol to support multi-to=
pology<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0routing of unicast and multi-destination traffic based on IS-I=
S<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0(Intermediate System to Intermediate System) multi-topology sp=
ecified<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0in RFC 5120. This document updates RFC 6325 and RFC 7177.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-multi-topology=
/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/<wbr>d=
oc/draft-ietf-trill-multi-<wbr>topology/</a><br>
<br>
There are also htmlized versions available at:<br>
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rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/<wbr>draft=
-ietf-trill-multi-<wbr>topology-05</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-trill-multi-top=
ology-05" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org=
/<wbr>doc/html/draft-ietf-trill-<wbr>multi-topology-05</a><br>
<br>
A diff from the previous version is available at:<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-ietf-trill-multi-topol=
ogy-05" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?<=
wbr>url2=3Ddraft-ietf-trill-multi-<wbr>topology-05</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submissio=
n<br>
until the htmlized version and diff are available at <a href=3D"http://tool=
s.ietf.org" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tools.ietf.org</a>.<br>
<br>
Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:<br>
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On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 12:43 AM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Note that the TRILL WG Meeting in Singapore has been moved earlier from Thursday afternoon to Monday afternoon. It will be replacing I2RS for the 15:50 to 17:20 slot in the VIP A Room.

Correction: the TRILL WG Meeting will be Monday afternoon in the VIP A
Room but will be from 17:40 to 18:40. (The 15:50 to 17:20 time slot in
VIP A is still the I2RS WG.)

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Donald
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links WG of the IETF.

        Title           : TRILL Support of Point to Multipoint BFD
        Authors         : Mingui Zhang
                          Santosh Pallagatti
                          Vengada Prasad Govindan
	Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-p2mp-bfd-06.txt
	Pages           : 7
	Date            : 2017-11-13

Abstract:
   Point to multipoint (P2MP) BFD is designed to verify multipoint
   connectivity.  This document specifies the support of P2MP BFD in
   TRILL.  Similar to TRILL point-to-point BFD, BFD Control packets in
   TRILL P2MP BFD are transmitted using RBridge Channel message. This
   document updates RFC 7175 and RFC 7177.


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Unless there is some objection in the next couple of days, I will
proceed as described at today's TRILL WG meeting (see
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/100/materials/slides-100-trill-sessa-group-keying-update/)
with the draft-ietf-trill-group-keying draft.

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Donald
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TRILL WG: 

 

This is a WG adoption call for draft-eastlake-trill-vendor-channel-03.txt
(11/15 to 11/29). 

 

In this WG Adoption call please consider, 

 

1)      Is this vendor specific message channel useful to deployments? 

2)      Is this mechanism ready for standardization?  The TRILL WG group
must move rapidly from adoption of this draft to WG LC in December? 

3)      Do you know of any IPR related to this draft? 

 

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The TRILL WG has placed draft-eastlake-trill-vendor-channel in state
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links WG of the IETF.

        Title           : TRILL: ECN (Explicit Congestion Notification) Support
        Authors         : Donald E. Eastlake
                          Bob Briscoe
	Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-ecn-support-04.txt
	Pages           : 19
	Date            : 2017-11-20

Abstract:
   Explicit congestion notification (ECN) allows a forwarding element to
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   congestion without having to drop packets. This can improve network
   efficiency through better flow control without packet drops. This
   document extends ECN to TRILL switches, including integration with IP
   ECN, and provides for ECN marking in the TRILL Header Extension Flags
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Hi,

The revision is due to a change in Bob Briscoe's affiliation and to
avoid expiration of the draft, which is awaiting write-up.

(This draft already has been judged to have WG consensus:
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/trill/current/msg07908.html)

Thanks,
Donald
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On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:06 PM,  <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links WG of the IETF.
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>         Title           : TRILL: ECN (Explicit Congestion Notification) Support
>         Authors         : Donald E. Eastlake
>                           Bob Briscoe
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-ecn-support-04.txt
>         Pages           : 19
>         Date            : 2017-11-20
>
> Abstract:
>    Explicit congestion notification (ECN) allows a forwarding element to
>    notify downstream devices, including the destination, of the onset of
>    congestion without having to drop packets. This can improve network
>    efficiency through better flow control without packet drops. This
>    document extends ECN to TRILL switches, including integration with IP
>    ECN, and provides for ECN marking in the TRILL Header Extension Flags
>    Word (see RFC 7179).
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Support as a Co-Author.

I think this draft is ready for publication.

Datacenter Interconnection is critical part of any Data center design, this
draft provides a solution where trill DCI works over MPLS network.


Regards,
Umair

On Nov 12, 2017 5:51 AM, "Susan Hares" <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

This begins a 2 week WG LC for draft-ietf-trill-transport-over-MPLS
(11/11/2017 to 11/25/2017).  Please consider if this draft is ready for
publication.   In this consideration please consider:



1)      Does TRILL need to run over MPLS?  Some data centers are
interconnected over MPLS.  Does this capability aid in deployment of TRILL?

2)      Is this specification ready for publication?

3)      Do you know of any problems with this specification?





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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Support as a Co-Author.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">I think this draft is ready for publication.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Datacenter Interconnection is c=
ritical part of any Data center design, this draft provides a solution wher=
e trill DCI works over MPLS network.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Um=
air<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra" dir=3D"auto"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Nov 12, 2017 5:51 AM, &quot;Susan Hares&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:s=
hares@ndzh.com">shares@ndzh.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blo=
ckquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><di=
v class=3D"m_-2661732565821208289WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This =
begins a 2 week WG LC for draft-ietf-trill-transport-<wbr>over-MPLS (11/11/=
2017 to 11/25/2017).=C2=A0 Please consider if this draft is ready for publi=
cation.=C2=A0=C2=A0 In this consideration please consider:<u></u><u></u></p=
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es New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>Doe=
s TRILL need to run over MPLS?=C2=A0 Some data centers are interconnected o=
ver MPLS.=C2=A0 Does this capability aid in deployment of TRILL?<u></u><u><=
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span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>Is this specification ready for publication?=
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=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D=
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Sue,

I found that this draft has several places where interoperability between
implementations could be difficult because there are several implementation
choices that can be made, and the draft doesn=E2=80=99t make any particular
recommendations or require any of the choices to be implemented.

1. There are two models defined, the VPLS and VPTS models, and the draft
doesn=E2=80=99t recommend which to use for each of the two problem statemen=
ts. If
it were me, I would recommend the VPTS model as the default, as it is an
emulated TRILL service.

2. When using the VPTS model, section 4.3 says that either the PPP or
Ethernet encapsulation from RFC 7173 can be used, and makes no
recommendation between them. However, RFC 7173 defines the PPP
encapsulation as the chosen default, and that encapsulation should be used
here as well.

I recommend that these be addressed before the draft is sent to the IESG.

Thanks,
Andy


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> This begins a 2 week WG LC for draft-ietf-trill-transport-over-MPLS
> (11/11/2017 to 11/25/2017).  Please consider if this draft is ready for
> publication.   In this consideration please consider:
>
>
>
> 1)      Does TRILL need to run over MPLS?  Some data centers are
> interconnected over MPLS.  Does this capability aid in deployment of TRIL=
L?
>
> 2)      Is this specification ready for publication?
>
> 3)      Do you know of any problems with this specification?
>
>
>
>
>
> Susan Hares
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sue,<div><br></div><div>I found that this draft has severa=
l places where interoperability between implementations could be difficult =
because there are several implementation choices that can be made, and the =
draft doesn=E2=80=99t make any particular recommendations or require any of=
 the choices to be implemented.</div><div><br></div><div>1. There are two m=
odels defined, the VPLS and VPTS models, and the draft doesn=E2=80=99t reco=
mmend which to use for each of the two problem statements. If it were me, I=
 would recommend the VPTS model as the default, as it is an emulated TRILL =
service.</div><div><br></div><div>2. When using the VPTS model, section 4.3=
 says that either the PPP or Ethernet encapsulation from RFC 7173 can be us=
ed, and makes no recommendation between them. However, RFC 7173 defines the=
 PPP encapsulation as the chosen default, and that encapsulation should be =
used here as well.</div><div><br></div><div>I recommend that these be addre=
ssed before the draft is sent to the IESG.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,=
</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 7:21 PM, Susan Hares <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shares@ndzh.com" target=3D"_blank">share=
s@ndzh.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lan=
g=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_-324692429348617=
7637WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This begins a 2 week WG LC for dra=
ft-ietf-trill-transport-<wbr>over-MPLS (11/11/2017 to 11/25/2017).=C2=A0 Pl=
ease consider if this draft is ready for publication.=C2=A0=C2=A0 In this c=
onsideration please consider:<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"m_-3246924293486177637MsoListParagraph"><u><=
/u><span>1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></u>Does TRILL need to run over MPLS=
?=C2=A0 Some data centers are interconnected over MPLS.=C2=A0 Does this cap=
ability aid in deployment of TRILL?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"m_-3246924=
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t;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><u></=
u>Is this specification ready for publication? =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"m_-3246924293486177637MsoListParagraph"><u></u><span>3)<span style=
=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
</span></span><u></u>Do you know of any problems with this specification?<u=
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MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Susan Hares <u></=
u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">(co-chair, document shepherd) <u></u><u=
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Andy:

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Thank you for letting me know about this problem.  I will work with the =
authors to address it.=20

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sue

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From: trill [mailto:trill-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 2:21 PM
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to 11/25)

=20

Sue,

=20

I found that this draft has several places where interoperability =
between implementations could be difficult because there are several =
implementation choices that can be made, and the draft doesn=E2=80=99t =
make any particular recommendations or require any of the choices to be =
implemented.

=20

1. There are two models defined, the VPLS and VPTS models, and the draft =
doesn=E2=80=99t recommend which to use for each of the two problem =
statements. If it were me, I would recommend the VPTS model as the =
default, as it is an emulated TRILL service.

=20

2. When using the VPTS model, section 4.3 says that either the PPP or =
Ethernet encapsulation from RFC 7173 can be used, and makes no =
recommendation between them. However, RFC 7173 defines the PPP =
encapsulation as the chosen default, and that encapsulation should be =
used here as well.

=20

I recommend that these be addressed before the draft is sent to the =
IESG.

=20

Thanks,

Andy

=20

=20

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 7:21 PM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

This begins a 2 week WG LC for draft-ietf-trill-transport-over-MPLS =
(11/11/2017 to 11/25/2017).  Please consider if this draft is ready for =
publication.   In this consideration please consider:

=20

1)      Does TRILL need to run over MPLS?  Some data centers are =
interconnected over MPLS.  Does this capability aid in deployment of =
TRILL?

2)      Is this specification ready for publication? =20

3)      Do you know of any problems with this specification?

=20

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Susan Hares<br><b>Cc:</b> Donald Eastlake; Alia Atlas; Jon Hudson; =
trill@ietf.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [trill] =
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Hi,

The vendor channel is useful to be deployed to deliver vendor specific info=
rmation.  I support its standardization.
I am not aware of IPR related to this draft.

Thanks,
Mingui

From: trill [mailto:trill-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 11:45 AM
To: trill@ietf.org
Subject: [trill] WG Adoption call for draft-eastlake-trill-vendor-channel (=
11/15 to 11/29)

TRILL WG:


This is a WG adoption call for draft-eastlake-trill-vendor-channel-03.txt (=
11/15 to 11/29).



In this WG Adoption call please consider,



1)      Is this vendor specific message channel useful to deployments?

2)      Is this mechanism ready for standardization?  The TRILL WG group mu=
st move rapidly from adoption of this draft to WG LC in December?

3)      Do you know of any IPR related to this draft?



Susan Hares

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">The vendor channel is useful to be deployed to deliver vendor spe=
cific information. &nbsp;I support its standardization.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
:#1F497D">I am not aware of IPR related to this draft.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;color=
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ot;sans-serif&quot;"> trill [mailto:trill-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Hares<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 16, 2017 11:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> trill@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [trill] WG Adoption call for draft-eastlake-trill-vendor-ch=
annel (11/15 to 11/29)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">TRILL WG: <o:p></o:p></span></p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This is a WG adoption call f=
or draft-eastlake-trill-vendor-channel-03.txt (11/15 to 11/29).
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">In this WG Adoption call ple=
ase consider,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;m=
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1=
)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">Is this vendor specific=
 message channel useful to deployments?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;m=
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<![if !supportLists]><span lang=3D"EN-US"><span style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2=
)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">Is this mechanism ready=
 for standardization?&nbsp; The TRILL WG group must move rapidly from adopt=
ion of this draft to WG LC in December?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;m=
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3D"EN-US">Do you know of any IPR =
related to this draft?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links WG of the IETF.

        Title           : TRILL Multilevel Using Unique Nicknames
        Authors         : Mingui Zhang
                          Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
                          Radia Perlman
                          Margaret Cullen
                          Hongjun Zhai
                          Dongxin Liu
	Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-multilevel-unique-nickname-03.txt
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	Date            : 2017-11-21

Abstract:
   TRILL routing can be extended to support multiple levels by building
   on the multilevel feature of IS-IS routing. Depending on how
   nicknames are managed, there are two primary alternatives to realize
   TRILL multilevel: the unique nickname approach and the aggregated
   nickname approach as discussed in [MultiL]. This document specifies a
   unique nickname approach. This approach gives unique nicknames to all
   TRILL switches across the multilevel TRILL campus.


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        Title           : Directory Assisted TRILL Encapsulation
        Authors         : Linda Dunbar
                          Donald Eastlake
                          Radia Perlman
	Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-directory-assisted-encap-06.txt
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	Date            : 2017-11-27

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Hi,

This revision of draft-ietf-trill-assisted-encap resolves my last call
comments here:
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/trill/current/msg07883.html

Thanks,
Donald
===============================
 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
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 d3e3e3@gmail.com

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:51 PM, <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:

>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of
> Links WG of the IETF.
>
>         Title           : Directory Assisted TRILL Encapsulation
>         Authors         : Linda Dunbar
>                           Donald Eastlake
>                           Radia Perlman
>         Filename        : draft-ietf-trill-directory-assisted-encap-06.txt
>         Pages           : 15
>         Date            : 2017-11-27
>
> Abstract:
>    This draft describes how data center networks can benefit from non-
>    RBridge nodes performing TRILL encapsulation with assistance from a
>    directory service.
>
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-
> directory-assisted-encap/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-trill-directory-assisted-encap-06
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-trill-
> directory-assisted-encap-06
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-trill-
> directory-assisted-encap-06
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
> submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>This revision of draft-ietf-trill-a=
ssisted-encap resolves my last call comments here:</div><div><a href=3D"htt=
ps://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/trill/current/msg07883.html">https://www=
.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/trill/current/msg07883.html</a><br></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature">T=
hanks,<br>Donald<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>=C2=A0Donald E. Eastlake 3rd =C2=
=A0 +1-508-333-2270 (cell)<br>=C2=A0155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 US=
A<br>=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:d3e3e3@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">d3e3e3@gma=
il.com</a></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:51 PM,  <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">=
internet-drafts@ietf.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.<br>
This draft is a work item of the Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Lin=
ks WG of the IETF.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
 Directory Assisted TRILL Encapsulation<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: Lind=
a Dunbar<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Donald Eastlake<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Radia Perlman<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-iet=
f-trill-directory-<wbr>assisted-encap-06.txt<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0:=
 15<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 :=
 2017-11-27<br>
<br>
Abstract:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0This draft describes how data center networks can benefit from=
 non-<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0RBridge nodes performing TRILL encapsulation with assistance f=
rom a<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0directory service.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:<br>
<a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-directory-assi=
sted-encap/" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.=
org/<wbr>doc/draft-ietf-trill-<wbr>directory-assisted-encap/</a><br>
<br>
There are also htmlized versions available at:<br>
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encap-06" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/=
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-assisted-encap-06" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracke=
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/a><br>
<br>
A diff from the previous version is available at:<br>
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ssisted-encap-06" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org=
/rfcdiff?<wbr>url2=3Ddraft-ietf-trill-<wbr>directory-assisted-encap-06</a><=
br>
<br>
<br>
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n<br>
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The IESG has received a request from the Transparent Interconnection of Lots
of Links WG (trill) to consider the following document: - 'Centralized
Replication for Active-Active BUM Traffic'
  <draft-ietf-trill-centralized-replication-10.txt> as Proposed Standard

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Abstract


   In TRILL active-active access, an RPF check failure issue may occur
   when using the pseudo-nickname mechanism specified in RFC 7781. This
   draft describes a solution to resolve this RPF check failure issue
   through centralized replication. All ingress RBridges send BUM
   (Broadcast, Unknown unicast and Mutlicast) traffic to a centralized
   node with unicast TRILL encapsulation. When the centralized node
   receives the BUM traffic, it decapsulates the packets and forwards
   them to their destination RBridges using a distribution tree
   established as per TRILL base protocol RFC 6325. To avoid RPF check
   failure on a RBridge sitting between the ingress RBridge and the
   centralized replication node, some change in the RPF calculation
   algorithm is required. RPF checks on each RBridge should be
   calculated as if the centralized node was the ingress RBridge,
   instead of being calculated using the actual ingress RBridge.






The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-centralized-replication/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-centralized-replication/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.





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I am not aware of any IPR in this draft.

Thanks,
Donald
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On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

> Greetings.  I hope you have recovered from IETF 100.
>
>
>
> In writing up my shepherd=E2=80=99s report for draft-ietf-trill-address-f=
lush, I
> noticed that the IPR call had not been done at the time of the WG LC.
>  Would the authors respond to this email indicating whether they know of
> any IPR?
>
>
>
> For the rest of the WG, you are welcome to send comments to the shepherd
> for this draft:
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>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-address-flush/
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> Best Wishes,
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> Susan Hares
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I am not aware of any IPR in this draft.<div><br></div><di=
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=3D"gmail_signature">Thanks,<br>Donald<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Susan Hares=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shares@ndzh.com" target=3D"_blank"=
>shares@ndzh.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
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914847134WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greetings.=C2=A0 I hope you h=
ave recovered from IETF 100.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In writing up my shepherd=
=E2=80=99s report for draft-ietf-trill-address-<wbr>flush, I noticed that t=
he IPR call had not been done at the time of the WG LC.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Would t=
he authors respond to this email indicating whether they know of any IPR? <=
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"MsoNormal">For the rest of the WG, you are welcome to send comments to the=
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=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf=
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Hi,

I am not aware of any IPR in this draft.

Regards,
Umair


On Nov 28, 2017 7:08 PM, "Susan Hares" <shares@ndzh.com> wrote:

Greetings.  I hope you have recovered from IETF 100.



In writing up my shepherd=E2=80=99s report for draft-ietf-trill-address-flu=
sh, I
noticed that the IPR call had not been done at the time of the WG LC.
 Would the authors respond to this email indicating whether they know of
any IPR?



For the rest of the WG, you are welcome to send comments to the shepherd
for this draft:



https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-trill-address-flush/



Best Wishes,

Susan Hares

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I a=
m not aware of any IPR in this draft.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Umair</div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 28, 2017 7:08 PM, &quot;=
Susan Hares&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shares@ndzh.com">shares@ndzh.com</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"m=
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EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_-8126866159789810814W=
ordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greetings.=C2=A0 I hope you have recove=
red from IETF 100.=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In writing up my shepherd=E2=80=99s=
 report for draft-ietf-trill-address-<wbr>flush, I noticed that the IPR cal=
l had not been done at the time of the WG LC.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Would the authors=
 respond to this email indicating whether they know of any IPR? <u></u><u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">For the rest of the WG, you are welcome to send comments to the shepherd =
for this draft: <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/dr=
aft-ietf-trill-address-flush/" target=3D"_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.o=
rg/<wbr>doc/draft-ietf-trill-address-<wbr>flush/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best Wishe=
s, <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Susan Hares <u></u><u></u></p><=
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