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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Using TLS in Applications of the IETF.

        Title           : SMTP MTA Strict Transport Security (MTA-STS)
        Authors         : Daniel Margolis
                          Mark Risher
                          Binu Ramakrishnan
                          Alexander Brotman
                          Janet Jones
	Filename        : draft-ietf-uta-mta-sts-05.txt
	Pages           : 18
	Date            : 2017-05-04

Abstract:
   SMTP Mail Transfer Agent Strict Transport Security (MTA-STS) is a
   mechanism enabling mail service providers to declare their ability to
   receive Transport Layer Security (TLS) secure SMTP connections, and
   to specify whether sending SMTP servers should refuse to deliver to
   MX hosts that do not offer TLS with a trusted server certificate.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Using TLS in Applications of the IETF.

        Title           : SMTP TLS Reporting
        Authors         : Daniel Margolis
                          Alexander Brotman
                          Binu Ramakrishnan
                          Janet Jones
                          Mark Risher
	Filename        : draft-ietf-uta-smtp-tlsrpt-05.txt
	Pages           : 17
	Date            : 2017-05-04

Abstract:
   A number of protocols exist for establishing encrypted channels
   between SMTP Mail Transfer Agents, including STARTTLS [RFC3207], DANE
   [RFC6698], and MTA-STS (TODO: Add ref).  These protocols can fail due
   to misconfiguration or active attack, leading to undelivered messages
   or delivery over unencrypted or unauthenticated channels.  This
   document describes a reporting mechanism and format by which sending
   systems can share statistics and specific information about potential
   failures with recipient domains.  Recipient domains can then use this
   information to both detect potential attackers and diagnose
   unintentional misconfigurations.


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Hello folks,

A fair bit of these updates were cleanup for various smaller items.  Some c=
hanges to the pseudocode, clearing language around cached policies, and add=
ressing many of the items Alexey had noted.  We still have a few of Alexey'=
s notes to go over in the near future, as well as the IANA-related items.

Please get back to us with any feedback.  Thank you.

--
Alex Brotman
Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse
Comcast
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On 11/05/2017 10:37, Gerard.DRAPER-GIL@ec.europa.eu wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am not sure if it is too early to ask, or if it is the right list (I 
> hope you will excuse me).
>
> Is there an UTA meeting planned for the next IETF 99  in Prague?
>
Now is a good time. Face to face meeting in Prague can be requested 
before 2017-06-02.



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Indeed!
The chairs would like to ask all interested contributors to send their requ=
ests for the Prague meeting no later than June 1st, 2017.
Please, specify the draft(s) to be presented, the name of the presenter, an=
d the time needed for the discussion.
This way we will be able to decide whether to hold a session at the next IE=
TF.

Thanks you,
Orit.

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On 11/05/2017 10:37, Gerard.DRAPER-GIL@ec.europa.eu<mailto:Gerard.DRAPER-GI=
L@ec.europa.eu> wrote:
Hi,

I am not sure if it is too early to ask, or if it is the right list (I hope=
 you will excuse me).

Is there an UTA meeting planned for the next IETF 99  in Prague?
Now is a good time. Face to face meeting in Prague can be requested before =
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">Indeed!<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">The chairs would li=
ke to ask all interested contributors to send their requests for the Prague=
 meeting no later than June 1<sup>st</sup>, 2017.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">Please, specify the=
 draft(s) to be presented, the name of the presenter, and the time needed f=
or the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">This way we will be=
 able to decide whether to hold a session at the next IETF.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">Thanks you,<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:windowtext">Orit.<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span style=3D"color:win=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:windowtext">From:</span></b>=
<span style=3D"color:windowtext"> Uta [mailto:uta-bounces@ietf.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alexey Melnikov<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gerard.DRAPER-GIL@ec.europa.eu; Uta@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Uta] IETF 99 Prague<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p>On 11/05/2017 10:37, <a href=3D"mailto:Gerard.DRAPER-GIL@ec.europa.eu">G=
erard.DRAPER-GIL@ec.europa.eu</a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I am not sure if it is too early to ask, or if it is=
 the right list (I hope you will excuse me).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is there an UTA meeting planned for the next IETF 99=
 &nbsp;in Prague?
<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Now is a good time. F=
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<br>
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The chairs would like to ask all interested contributors to send their requ=
ests for the Prague meeting no later than June 1st, 2017.
Please, specify the draft(s) to be presented, the name of the presenter, an=
d the time needed for the discussion.
This way we will be able to decide whether to hold a session at the next IE=
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Thanks,
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A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Leif Johansson, a Chair of the uta working group.


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Working Group Name: Using TLS in Applications
Area Name: Applications and Real-Time Area
Session Requester: Leif Johansson

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  1 Hour
Number of Attendees: 50
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 First Priority: tokbind tls
 Second Priority: oauth secevent



People who must be present:
  Keith Moore
  Chris Newman
  Orit Levin
  Alexey Melnikov
  Leif Johansson
  Jim Fenton

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
  please avoid mail or security related BoFs if possible
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Using TLS in Applications of the IETF.

        Title           : SMTP MTA Strict Transport Security (MTA-STS)
        Authors         : Daniel Margolis
                          Mark Risher
                          Binu Ramakrishnan
                          Alexander Brotman
                          Janet Jones
	Filename        : draft-ietf-uta-mta-sts-06.txt
	Pages           : 18
	Date            : 2017-05-31

Abstract:
   SMTP Mail Transfer Agent Strict Transport Security (MTA-STS) is a
   mechanism enabling mail service providers to declare their ability to
   receive Transport Layer Security (TLS) secure SMTP connections, and
   to specify whether sending SMTP servers should refuse to deliver to
   MX hosts that do not offer TLS with a trusted server certificate.


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
This draft is a work item of the Using TLS in Applications of the IETF.

        Title           : SMTP TLS Reporting
        Authors         : Daniel Margolis
                          Alexander Brotman
                          Binu Ramakrishnan
                          Janet Jones
                          Mark Risher
	Filename        : draft-ietf-uta-smtp-tlsrpt-06.txt
	Pages           : 22
	Date            : 2017-05-31

Abstract:
   A number of protocols exist for establishing encrypted channels
   between SMTP Mail Transfer Agents, including STARTTLS [RFC3207], DANE
   [RFC6698], and MTA-STS (TODO: Add ref).  These protocols can fail due
   to misconfiguration or active attack, leading to undelivered messages
   or delivery over unencrypted or unauthenticated channels.  This
   document describes a reporting mechanism and format by which sending
   systems can share statistics and specific information about potential
   failures with recipient domains.  Recipient domains can then use this
   information to both detect potential attackers and diagnose
   unintentional misconfigurations.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-uta-smtp-tlsrpt/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-uta-smtp-tlsrpt-06
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-uta-smtp-tlsrpt-06

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-uta-smtp-tlsrpt-06


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/


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Hello,

We just uploaded new revisions of the MTA-STS and TLSRPT.  We made some min=
or clarifications in MTA-STS.  For the TLSRPT we created a new content-type=
 to define the tlsrpt data, which should make the processing a bit easier. =
 We do still need to create some of the IANA sections, and we'll be working=
 on this soon, but we wanted to give an incremental update for review.  Tha=
nk you for your time and consideration.

--
Alex Brotman
Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse
Comcast
x5364



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This is very good news!
The chairs decided to hold a session in Prague in order to review the statu=
s of all existing drafts and to help moving the work forward.
To all the authors, please, be ready to present and discuss your drafts dur=
ing the session either in person (preferably) or remotely!

Thanks to all,
Leif & Orit.

-----Original Message-----
From: Uta [mailto:uta-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brotman, Alexander
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Subject: [Uta] Updated MTA-STS and TLSRPT drafts

Hello,

We just uploaded new revisions of the MTA-STS and TLSRPT.  We made some min=
or clarifications in MTA-STS.  For the TLSRPT we created a new content-type=
 to define the tlsrpt data, which should make the processing a bit easier. =
 We do still need to create some of the IANA sections, and we'll be working=
 on this soon, but we wanted to give an incremental update for review.  Tha=
nk you for your time and consideration.

--
Alex Brotman
Sr. Engineer, Anti-Abuse
Comcast
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An update to a meeting session request has just been submitted by Orit Levin, a Chair of the uta working group.


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Working Group Name: Using TLS in Applications
Area Name: Applications and Real-Time Area
Session Requester: Orit Levin

Number of Sessions: 1
Length of Session(s):  1 Hour
Number of Attendees: 50
Conflicts to Avoid: 
 First Priority: tokbind tls
 Second Priority: oauth secevent



People who must be present:
  Keith Moore
  Chris Newman
  Orit Levin
  Alexey Melnikov
  Leif Johansson
  Jim Fenton

Resources Requested:

Special Requests:
  please avoid mail or security related BoFs if possible
please, schedule for Thu (or Wed)
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