From nobody Fri Mar 13 13:59:33 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gendispatch@ietf.org Delivered-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5603A0FBF; Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:59:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: gendispatch@ietf.org, alissa@cooperw.in X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.121.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <158413314794.3136.7575431364096737074@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 13:59:07 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Gendispatch] gendispatch - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 107 X-BeenThere: gendispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: General Area Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 20:59:21 -0000 Dear Pete Resnick, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. gendispatch Session 1 (1:00 requested) Wednesday, 25 March 2020, Session II 2140-2240 Room Name: Virtual Track 1 size: None --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/sessions/gendispatch.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: General Area Dispatch Area Name: General Area Session Requester: Pete Resnick Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 1 Hour Number of Attendees: 50 Conflicts to Avoid: Technology Overlap: genarea artarea cbor ace core lake quic dprive anima opsawg spring tls abcd wpack webtrans txauth tmrid raw mathmesh secdispatch People who must be present: Pete Resnick Alissa Cooper Francesca Palombini Resources Requested: Experimental Room Setup (U-Shape and classroom, subject to availability) Special Requests: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Mar 16 20:43:24 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99763A16C4 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:43:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JmNI9gNquiFH for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pg1-x52b.google.com (mail-pg1-x52b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 554F53A16C3 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x52b.google.com with SMTP id u12so10934357pgb.10 for ; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:43:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:subject:to:references:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sb6jawtqKVRrarje+qwLgoNyRpawQFI2CfTJoSN2pQo=; b=qDXz+w5KS9t7JhWvULYyrL3TucDYc+5dKCo9k3acKITkGgEJb6KkWaPz1/bw+/whG8 gSJj0LDQwDFy07z0wR0cNZjJnb4LmfFDjFEY9EY+ru0k44B+qMJsO2nLUJ0n3iz1eZXA WZ0qQYXmOWddzMStC7EgrHYTKwVWlKEtn4RW56kKiOxm1ZZzFRXJdIX46VexUI3HRNfV 3Sux3Pf3Mc64duhOvX7bEhfHtD9mkBPW71S6G3zYwqUWYfqBrzEsrBz/n73q0VSiWJ92 GHGl1pd8eLaqKYhig5oD2fkfgS98cKowxGZfohQt7fU8vlPr31iQQ4uiZ37uv2gceIsW lyoQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:subject:to:references:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sb6jawtqKVRrarje+qwLgoNyRpawQFI2CfTJoSN2pQo=; b=VtPorhugn8gkyoFnBbEef4HQCe+tmmHZ+9AElPlSoBvWYNKd13mwFwzNiUifql2xF0 3Fv7bMkb2d8zJ6puqM64+8JdvhNJ/257OEw3KHRz6OOcUpnbCisUPAPoq7vGx4Ds3EfG KnjBRzMWoVZW3MrFI2JMKfyp8GzQlCfP8wJA9qGa2b9nlOoqaZsmMVww8Cyi0YdwKsbW dg/jID1c0lN/vl9gzo9UIY0SQvJ8ZgDdjIMNbpw93RZKT0iX1MUJLHHj2SlXqTkarM7L rDHtfp5Q7fLSzKxllqAcpNQaijyI7qF6vMH0AFFInNcicxnuO1U4X9y22m+XeCVXe+aW DvMA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ37i/6M5QoiZqzvjOqBS4SIFW7QgsnOmY7FnchZIQeD5pEjYv9q h2a66/ririGx2iIoCogKwfVuVhVs X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vu9vvrQyKMM9XIxaS+mLQNG1oxeUQPlPYKAfQJ0EfY/lBBtSz4jRr0zSnOBJDQmWxzGV6EotQ== X-Received: by 2002:a63:31c9:: with SMTP id x192mr3091329pgx.88.1584416600159; Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.30] ([165.84.25.143]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 13sm1170058pfi.78.2020.03.16.20.43.17 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:43:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian E Carpenter To: gendispatch@ietf.org References: <158441575123.13837.13384291721431074550@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 16:43:17 +1300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <158441575123.13837.13384291721431074550@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt X-BeenThere: gendispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Area Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 03:43:23 -0000 FYI. In discussion at eligibility-discuss@ietf.org. Brian -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:29:11 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Additional Criteria for Nominating Committee Eligibility Author : Brian E. Carpenter Filename : draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt Pages : 4 Date : 2020-03-16 Abstract: This document updates the criteria for qualifying volunteers to participate in the IETF Nominating Committee. It therefore also updates the criteria for qualifying signatories to a community recall petition. The purpose is to make the criteria more flexible in view of increasing remote participation in the IETF and a probable decline in face-to-face meetings. This document updates RFC8713. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt From nobody Tue Mar 17 07:32:17 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD163A083E for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 07:32:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bR7nVMxFE_VK for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 07:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from episteme.net (episteme.net [216.169.5.102]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9EBA13A0830 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 07:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4975BA401DE7; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 09:32:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from episteme.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (episteme.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9Sp7EZWbMbGo; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 09:32:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.1.18] (episteme.net [216.169.5.102]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6F174A401DE0; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 09:32:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pete Resnick" To: "Brian E Carpenter" Cc: gendispatch@ietf.org, "Stephen Farrell" Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 09:32:06 -0500 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13.1r5671) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <158441575123.13837.13384291721431074550@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt X-BeenThere: gendispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Area Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 14:32:16 -0000 Brian, Is this a request for time on the gendispatch agenda? Stephen tells me he is willing to lead discussion if you are unable to attend. pr On 16 Mar 2020, at 22:43, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > FYI. In discussion at eligibility-discuss@ietf.org. > > Brian > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:29:11 -0700 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > > > Title : Additional Criteria for Nominating Committee > Eligibility > Author : Brian E. Carpenter > Filename : draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt > Pages : 4 > Date : 2020-03-16 > > Abstract: > This document updates the criteria for qualifying volunteers to > participate in the IETF Nominating Committee. It therefore also > updates the criteria for qualifying signatories to a community > recall > petition. The purpose is to make the criteria more flexible in > view > of increasing remote participation in the IETF and a probable > decline > in face-to-face meetings. This document updates RFC8713. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt -- Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best From nobody Tue Mar 17 12:21:54 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C373A0C74 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:21:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.087 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.087 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zv001ErIYC47 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pl1-x62f.google.com (mail-pl1-x62f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::62f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 719193A0C7A for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pl1-x62f.google.com with SMTP id f8so10036038plt.10 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:21:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VsTaSdJPR/k6dyyOui0KJpr8dyNnipxeZZAMUmNtwDY=; b=TfxYGI0oT7f2u82EVwFPnoVOjo51nrYOq85A1v4nBFULEOtCjDmtZIp4b4Ac4+t6JY PQS1jr2Nu25xrYAr9iqFTRD7IOeX8oN1TG7WbHx4CewiIaBurawPxpuQRrDz2J2wKrTq /aQgd9BpVoVg2bAuK2BCuVpq1ONHDVh4kU8aPnTreG21zeal602zOC4YaBfeU3l7METl q2hULFHUjG/ieznPJghY15KqVR0d9Tv7+9CR70Udd6seH9pvZz8fNz47YkJLsmi4oncj +n58Hg9E0uyG8dxjNxL+72Zzd1HmnkAjC1G5OD/5ke56ArOChdV+XDSRPn8UGia/uSKN JRoA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VsTaSdJPR/k6dyyOui0KJpr8dyNnipxeZZAMUmNtwDY=; b=by5iw0od3G/cpPoE5e269AESHNmG4I9YItr9WKN2AT4IkRXpeJ4fTOZOLBZ4qF5C8G SEklAGffB4HfnwRVekrTB1tQlafjhxExxY67YKFZaOk6zuBxnS8USWnBoREnrgbiRVfn RkueJqLsp6l2tAcx8zmQY+23LknB50k+6wd5l+HzrQWM5qahMoOfkAmlq4+uvBCWRoWz g60CVw+RGpjD8G+4MsNBOUvJnk6gZmAD36ITzKjb+wfdqvoNYIajTB+bdCgqw1BVn1bE IWGp2y/2JoGs/SH0dNPQe5FJP/0Z5x/iSCF2jqWk4SrpjlBIh62lIuAS8/JkDTRqHQRR oZCw== X-Gm-Message-State: ANhLgQ2rhkCTSw3WsCwdOR7Lhi1p8MkiF/+f2EPyN2AGt3f7ns0vr7ZW BHx7+Y1hqy1zoOveivIXHGKNrd1k X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADFU+vtuyl1NKJEBEHmglihb86xZi97h2GPtVUPnnbGYhtOQSsBU7b5iv9/V+5c3HrjEHKSLVBdEBg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:e98e:: with SMTP id v14mr781002pjy.114.1584472901631; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.30] ([165.84.25.143]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k2sm3499705pgj.16.2020.03.17.12.21.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:21:40 -0700 (PDT) To: Pete Resnick Cc: gendispatch@ietf.org, Stephen Farrell References: <158441575123.13837.13384291721431074550@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Brian E Carpenter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 08:21:38 +1300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt X-BeenThere: gendispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Area Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:21:53 -0000 Pete, Yes, I think that would be useful. This wasn't explicitly aimed at the gendispatch criteria ("a clear problem statement, historical context, motivation, and deliverables") but I think we can make the case that it meets them. Currently I have GENDISPATCH on my calendar (it will be Thursday morning for me) but it would be good to have Stephen available too in case of glitches. Regards Brian Carpenter On 18-Mar-20 03:32, Pete Resnick wrote: > Brian, > > Is this a request for time on the gendispatch agenda? Stephen tells me > he is willing to lead discussion if you are unable to attend. > > pr > > On 16 Mar 2020, at 22:43, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >> FYI. In discussion at eligibility-discuss@ietf.org. >> >> Brian >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt >> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:29:11 -0700 >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >> >> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> >> >> Title : Additional Criteria for Nominating Committee >> Eligibility >> Author : Brian E. Carpenter >> Filename : draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt >> Pages : 4 >> Date : 2020-03-16 >> >> Abstract: >> This document updates the criteria for qualifying volunteers to >> participate in the IETF Nominating Committee. It therefore also >> updates the criteria for qualifying signatories to a community >> recall >> petition. The purpose is to make the criteria more flexible in >> view >> of increasing remote participation in the IETF and a probable >> decline >> in face-to-face meetings. This document updates RFC8713. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand/ >> >> There are also htmlized versions available at: >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00 >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission >> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> I-D-Announce mailing list >> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt > > From nobody Tue Mar 17 13:10:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408973A0D27 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:09:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.897 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.897 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z9vVMZcCvlFO for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from episteme.net (episteme.net [216.169.5.102]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 759CD3A0D2F for ; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 13:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C5CDA40A164; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:09:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from episteme.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (episteme.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iAb8QKjl-A7m; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:09:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.1.18] (episteme.net [216.169.5.102]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7BADBA40A15A; Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:09:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pete Resnick" To: "Brian E Carpenter" Cc: gendispatch@ietf.org, "Stephen Farrell" Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 15:09:47 -0500 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13.1r5671) Message-ID: <2A41C1CB-E4F6-4AAA-AF5F-00196390F790@episteme.net> In-Reply-To: References: <158441575123.13837.13384291721431074550@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt X-BeenThere: gendispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Area Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 20:10:11 -0000 Very good. I'll go ahead and post the agenda that Francesca prepared with you and the draft on it. We can always update. pr On 17 Mar 2020, at 14:21, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Pete, > > Yes, I think that would be useful. This wasn't explicitly aimed at the > gendispatch criteria ("a clear problem statement, historical context, > motivation, and deliverables") but I think we can make the case that > it meets them. > > Currently I have GENDISPATCH on my calendar (it will be Thursday > morning for me) but it would be good to have Stephen available too in > case of glitches. > > Regards > Brian Carpenter > > On 18-Mar-20 03:32, Pete Resnick wrote: >> Brian, >> >> Is this a request for time on the gendispatch agenda? Stephen tells >> me >> he is willing to lead discussion if you are unable to attend. >> >> pr >> >> On 16 Mar 2020, at 22:43, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> >>> FYI. In discussion at eligibility-discuss@ietf.org. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt >>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:29:11 -0700 >>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >>> Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org >>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >>> >>> >>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>> directories. >>> >>> >>> Title : Additional Criteria for Nominating >>> Committee >>> Eligibility >>> Author : Brian E. Carpenter >>> Filename : draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00.txt >>> Pages : 4 >>> Date : 2020-03-16 >>> >>> Abstract: >>> This document updates the criteria for qualifying volunteers to >>> participate in the IETF Nominating Committee. It therefore also >>> updates the criteria for qualifying signatories to a community >>> recall >>> petition. The purpose is to make the criteria more flexible in >>> view >>> of increasing remote participation in the IETF and a probable >>> decline >>> in face-to-face meetings. This document updates RFC8713. >>> >>> >>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand/ >>> >>> There are also htmlized versions available at: >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00 >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-00 >>> >>> >>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>> submission >>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>> >>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> I-D-Announce mailing list >>> I-D-Announce@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce >>> Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html >>> or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt >> >> -- Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best From nobody Wed Mar 18 02:06:34 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BE73A0C0C; 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X-BeenThere: gendispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Area Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 22:08:50 -0000 --_000_BL0PR11MB3394F360CA80A05F4E47C35590CE0BL0PR11MB3394namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I assume it takes working group consensus (and IESG approval) to add a = tag. Is there a process to change the tags of older documents? John --_000_BL0PR11MB3394F360CA80A05F4E47C35590CE0BL0PR11MB3394namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

    I assume it takes working group c= onsensus (and IESG approval) to add a tag.

 

    Is there a process to change the = tags of older documents?

 

 

John

 

--_000_BL0PR11MB3394F360CA80A05F4E47C35590CE0BL0PR11MB3394namp_-- From nobody Wed Mar 25 19:55:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB97B3A041E for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 19:55:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QH0xhgphtHtb for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 19:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from episteme.net (episteme.net [216.169.5.102]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B0483A0407 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 19:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B33A5300FE; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:55:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from episteme.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (episteme.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qYclg-S8WaKG; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:55:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [172.16.1.18] (episteme.net [216.169.5.102]) by episteme.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2AB4FA5300F5; Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:55:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pete Resnick" To: "Border, John" Cc: gendispatch@ietf.org Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2020 21:55:08 -0500 X-Mailer: MailMate (1.13.1r5671) Message-ID: <657CD49A-4F76-41C4-AA7D-204BD95B6EE2@episteme.net> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_MailMate_58DA4F35-F225-476A-BCB3-892E6714A3A1_=" Embedded-HTML: [{"HTML":[535, 1109], "plain":[187, 153], "uuid":"9A08868B-4EE3-49CA-9E51-2F3EC1263543"}] Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Couldn't get Jabber to work... X-BeenThere: gendispatch@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Area Dispatch List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 02:55:12 -0000 --=_MailMate_58DA4F35-F225-476A-BCB3-892E6714A3A1_= Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi John, Discussion of the tag document is taking place over on rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org. Definitely take this topic over there. pr On 25 Mar 2020, at 17:08, Border, John wrote: > I assume it takes working group consensus (and IESG approval) to add a > tag. > > Is there a process to change the tags of older documents? > > > John -- Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best --=_MailMate_58DA4F35-F225-476A-BCB3-892E6714A3A1_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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