From buford@samrg.org Tue Jan 5 12:53:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501DD3A6890 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 12:53:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.335 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.335 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZoQf9iy71uQm for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 12:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from outbound-mail-121.bluehost.com (outbound-mail-121.bluehost.com [67.222.38.21]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F3B33A67F2 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2010 12:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 722 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jan 2010 20:53:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host181.hostmonster.com) (74.220.207.181) by outboundproxy4.bluehost.com with SMTP; 5 Jan 2010 20:53:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=samrg.org; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:X-Identified-User; b=SfPxb6Ji/BhIPTkEhgg4MGlGIZWRyswdpnwOq9CtT2Tx2ytlu7zKqqxn2x2PbLy8bAzKxJA0LguyTIOzWY09Pcvcwf+aeNDAthLB3IFkYyP+qstawWNb3C9TReXd0D9V; Received: from [198.152.240.62] (helo=mobilon) by host181.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NSGPJ-0007b8-1U for sam@irtf.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:53:37 -0700 From: "John Buford" To: Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 15:54:23 -0500 Message-ID: <833BFAE7E14041C1BCB71E2AAE301BFB@mobilon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcqOK70Np9M2d/t3RYyQtTVV9uSWqwAHVvmQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Identified-User: {2055:host181.hostmonster.com:samrgorg:samrg.org} {sentby:smtp auth 198.152.240.62 authed with buford@samrg.org} Subject: [SAM] CFP - IEEE Globecom 2010 - Communications Software, Services and Multimedia Applications Symposium X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:53:41 -0000 CALL FOR PAPERS =============== IEEE Globecom 2010 - Communications Software, Services and Multimedia Applications Symposium (CSSMA) Dec 6 - 10, 2010 Miami, FL USA http://www.ieee-globecom.org/2010 The Communications Software, Services and Multimedia Applications Symposium covers challenges and advances for service delivery and management in fixed and mobile communication networks. These topics are particularly relevant for researchers, developers and industries in the areas of networking and services covered by many Technical Committees. The symposium will follow GC2010 instructions for paper submission, review, and session construction. Papers offering novel research contributions in any aspect of Communications Software and Services are solicited for submission to the symposium. Topics of Interest * Next Generation Services and Service Platforms o Mobile Services and Service Platforms including IMS o Home Network Service Platform o VoP2P and P2P-SIP Services o Converged Application/Communication Servers and Services o Location-based Services o Social Networking Communication Services o Advanced Communication Services and Feature Interaction * Multimedia applications and services including VoIP, IPTV, Gaming o Multimedia delivery over wired and wireless networks o Cross-layer optimization for multimedia service support o Multicast, Broadcast and IPTV o Media streaming o Peer-to-Peer services * Software and Protocol Technologies for advanced service support o Web Services and distributed SW technology o Distributed systems and applications, including Grid Services o Peer-to-Peer technologies for communication services o Service overlay networks o Context Awareness and Personalization * Network and Service Management and Provisioning o Multimedia QoS provisioning o Quality of Experience for End-to-End Communications o End-to-End Quality of Service Routing algorithms o Service Creation, Delivery, Management o Network Management o Virtual Home Environment o Charging, Pricing, Business Models o Triple Play Services o Security and Privacy in Network and Service Management o Service Overlay Networks o Cooperative Networking for Streaming Media Content Submission deadline: March 15, 2010 Notifications due: July 1, 2010 Final version due: Aug 1, 2010 For more information about IEEE Globecom 2010, please see http://www.ieee-globecom.org/2010 Symposium Co-Chairs John Buford, Avaya Labs Research, USA (buford at avaya.com) Mohammad S. Obaidat, Monmouth university, USA (obaidat at monmouth.edu) Joel Rodrigues, University of Beira Interior, Portugal (joelr at ieee.org) Bin Wei, AT&T Research, USA (bw at research.att.com) Sponsoring Technical Committees Communications Software Multimedia Communications From rhboivie@us.ibm.com Wed Jan 6 11:46:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8679828C108 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 11:46:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, FRT_SOMA2=2.199, HTML_FONT_SIZE_LARGE=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_41=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_61=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_71=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O0bhN5BXGiE4 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 11:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from e8.ny.us.ibm.com (e8.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.138]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE34328C122 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 11:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from d01relay07.pok.ibm.com (d01relay07.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.147]) by e8.ny.us.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o06JeP1m017849 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:40:25 -0500 Received: from d01av04.pok.ibm.com (d01av04.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.64]) by d01relay07.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id o06JkDtu1912944 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:46:15 -0500 Received: from d01av04.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av04.pok.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id o06JkC9u009538 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:46:12 -0500 Received: from d01ml605.pok.ibm.com (d01ml605.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.91]) by d01av04.pok.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id o06JkCux009535; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:46:12 -0500 To: "John Buford" , SAM@irtf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: 01532FF1:1116F42D-852576A3:006AD916; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.2 HF623 January 16, 2009 From: Rick Boivie Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:46:12 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML605/01/M/IBM(Release 8.5.1HF41 | October 22, 2009) at 01/06/2010 14:46:12, Serialize complete at 01/06/2010 14:46:12 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 006C9471852576A3_=" Subject: [SAM] Jan 5 NY Times: A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:46:36 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006C9471852576A3_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John et al, Regarding the article that appeared in yesterday's New York Times, If Internet-connected TV's and family room videoconferencing takes off (along with corporate videoconferencing) then the Internet is going to=20 need something like Xcast, SGM or SAM to efficiently handle very large numbers of small=20 multicast groups. What's the latest on the SAM RG? and what are the prospects of progressing to an IETF WG and developing a=20 standard? Rick Boivie IBM T. J. Watson Research Center (still interested in Xcast & SAM but also working on other things) A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/05/technology/internet/05hdtv.html?hpw January 5, 2010 A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room=20 By BRAD STONE SAN FRANCISCO ? There will soon be something new to watch on the living=20 room TV: your relatives and friends in different parts of the world. On Tuesday, Panasonic and LG Electronics, two of the top television=20 makers, are to announce that they are integrating the free online calling=20 service Skype into their Internet-connected high-definition televisions. People who buy these TVs, along with an extra Web camera and microphone=20 accessory designed for the living room, can conduct free, live video chats = and phone calls from the couch. The announcement is the first of many expected from TV manufacturers at=20 the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week. Television makers=20 are trying to give consumers reasons to begin replacing their=20 high-definition TVs that they bought only in the last few years. TV makers = are also trotting out ever-slimmer TVs, adding Internet connections and=20 preparing to introduce 3-D technology. ?This is the year when Internet-connected TVs will start to take off, and=20 there is no doubt that soon every TV that ships will have built in Wi-Fi,=20 webcams and microphones,? said Jonathan Rosenberg, chief technology=20 strategist of Skype. ?This is our first step.? The domestic TV market survived the recession in surprisingly good health, = shipping 33.86 million units during 2009, up 17 percent from 2008, while=20 retail sales were generally flat, according to the research firm iSuppli.=20 But furious competition among manufacturers cut deeply into prices and=20 profits, with the price of a 46-inch LCD TV, for example, falling under=20 $1,000 for the first time.=20 Internet-enabled TV sets, though they have not yet proved a hit with=20 consumers, can restore some of those shrunken profits. A 50-inch plasma,=20 high-definition TV with a broadband connection from LG runs about $300=20 more on Amazon.com than a TV of the same size without the connection. In=20 some cases, TV makers also get a slice of the revenue when customers make=20 Web purchases from their TVs. That is where Skype comes in. Until now, Web-connected TVs have accessed=20 only a limited number of online services, like widgets from Yahoo that=20 offer weather and news updates, or Netflix?s streaming movie service. By=20 adding other services and making a television more like a PC, TV makers=20 now want to change the very identity of the primary screen in the house.=20 ?The TV is not just a one-way entertainment device, but a two-way=20 communications device and a portal into other people?s lives,? said Bob=20 Perry, a senior vice president at Panasonic. The Skype service on a TV will work much as it does on a PC, but with some = limitations. A TV program will stop playing once a Skype call is made or=20 answered; TV processors are not yet powerful enough to allow people to=20 chat while they watch a show, the companies say. Panasonic, based in Japan, and LG, based in South Korea, will sell=20 specially designed Web cameras for their Skype-enabled sets, which should=20 cost $100 to $200. These cameras, unlike typical webcams, are customized=20 for the technically challenging environment of the living room, where=20 there can be a wide range of distances between the TV and viewers. The deals give the newly independent Skype, formerly a division of eBay,=20 another valuable foothold in the home. About 520 million people around the = world use the service to place free phone calls and have video chats with=20 one another from their computers and other devices that run Skype=20 software. The company makes money by charging competitive rates for people = to call regular phone numbers and for add-on services like voice mail. Video chatting has become an increasingly important feature of Skype. The=20 company says video chats account for 34 percent of calls on the service,=20 and as many as half on days like Christmas and New Year?s, when families=20 seek to connect face to face.=20 To further nurture this activity, Skype is also announcing on Tuesday that = its software for Windows PCs and televisions will support high-definition=20 video calling in the 720p HD format, if users have webcams that support=20 the technology.=20 Skype makes no money from video chats, at least for now. But Mr. Rosenberg = of the company says that it may soon start charging for add-on services,=20 like the ability to set up a video conference call for three or more=20 parties. ?What we finally created with the Skype network is a community of users=20 that are available via video. Having Skype on the TV is a big part of=20 building that,? he said. Not everyone believes Internet-enabled TVs, with features like Skype, are=20 going to make much of a difference to consumers. Riddhi Patel, an analyst=20 at iSuppli, says he thinks that innovations like LED-backlighting for=20 LCDs, which can result in a picture with a crisper contrast ratio and a=20 thinner screen, are what catch shoppers? eyes in stores.=20 ?When a consumer walks into the store, they make a purchase when they can=20 instantly see the benefit of upgrading to a new TV,? Ms. Patel said. --=_alternative 006C9471852576A3_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John et al,

Regarding the article that appeared in yesterday's New York Times,

If Internet-connected TV's and family room videoconferencing takes off
(along with corporate videoconferenc= ing) then the Internet is going to need something
like Xcast, SGM or SAM to efficiently handle very large numbers of small multicast groups.

What's the latest on the SAM RG?
and what are the prospects of progre= ssing to an IETF WG and developing a standard?

Rick Boivie
IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
(still interested in Xcast & SAM but also working on other things)


A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/= 05/technology/internet/05hdtv.html?hpw

January 5, 2010
A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room =
By BRAD STONE

SAN FRANCISCO — There will soon be something new to= watch on the living room TV: your relatives and friends in different parts of the world.

On Tuesday, Panasonic= and LG Electronics, two of the top television makers, are to announce that they are integrating the free online calling service Skype into their Internet-connected high-definition televisions.

People who buy these TVs, along with an extra Web camera and microphone accessory designed for the living room, can conduct free, live video chats and phone calls from the couch.

The announcement is the first of many expected from TV manufacturers at the Cons= umer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week. Tele= vision makers are trying to give consumers reasons to begin replacing their high-d= efinition TVs that they bought only in the last few years. TV makers are also trotting out ever-slimmer TVs, adding Internet connections and preparing to introduce 3-D technology.

“This is the year when Internet-connected TVs will = start to take off, and there is no doubt that soon every TV that ships will have built in Wi-Fi, webcams and microphones,” said Jonathan Rosenberg, ch= ief technology strategist of Skype. “This is our first step.”

The domestic TV market survived the recession in surprisi= ngly good health, shipping 33.86 million units during 2009, up 17 percent from 2008, while retail sales were generally flat, according to the research firm iSuppli. But furious competition among manufacturers cut deeply into prices and profits, with the price of a 46-inch LCD TV, for example, falling under $1,000 for the first time.

Internet-enabled TV sets, though they have not yet proved a hit with consumers, can restore some of those shrunken profits. A 50-inch plasma, high-definition TV with a broadband connection from LG runs about $300 more on Amazon.com than a TV of the same size without the connection. In some cases, TV makers also get a slice of the revenue when customers make Web purchases from their TVs.

That is where Skype comes in. Until now, Web-connected TVs have accessed only a limited number of online services, like widgets from Y= ahoo that offer weather and news updates, or NetflixR= 17;s streaming movie service. By adding other services and making a television more like a PC, TV makers now want to change the very identity of the prima= ry screen in the house.

“The TV is not just a one-way entertainment device,= but a two-way communications device and a portal into other people’s live= s,” said Bob Perry, a senior vice president at Panasonic.

The Skype service on a TV will work much as it does on a PC, but with some limitations. A TV program will stop playing once a Skype call is made or answered; TV processors are not yet powerful enough to allow people to chat while they watch a show, the companies say.

Panasonic, based in Japan, and LG, based in South Korea, will sell specially designed Web cameras for their Skype-enabled sets, which should cost $100 to $200. These cameras, unlike typical webcams, are customized for the technically challenging environment of the living room, where there can be a wide range of distances between the TV and viewe= rs.

The deals give the newly independent Skype, formerly a division of eBay, another valuable foothold in the home. About 520 million people around the world use the service to place free phone calls and have video chats with one another from their computers and other devices that run Skype software. The company makes money by charging competitive rates for people to call regular phone numbers and for add-on services like voice mail.

Video chatting has become an increasingly important featu= re of Skype. The company says video chats account for 34 percent of calls on the service, and as many as half on days like Christmas and New YearR= 17;s, when families seek to connect face to face.

To further nurture this activity, Skype is also announcing on Tuesday that its software for Windows PCs and televisions will support high-definition video calling in the 720p HD format, if users have webcams that support the technology.

Skype makes no money from video chats, at least for now. But Mr. Rosenberg of the company says that it may soon start charging for add-on services, like the ability to set up a video conference call for three or more parties.

“What we finally created with the Skype network is = a community of users that are available via video. Having Skype on the TV is a big part of building that,” he said.

Not everyone believes Internet-enabled TVs, with features like Skype, are going to make much of a difference to consumers. Riddhi Patel, an analyst at iSuppli, says he thinks that innovations like LED-back= lighting for LCDs, which can result in a picture with a crisper contrast ratio and a thinner screen, are what catch shoppers’ eyes in stores.

“When a consumer walks into the store, they make a = purchase when they can instantly see the benefit of upgrading to a new TV,” Ms. Patel said.

--=_alternative 006C9471852576A3_=-- From john.buford@gmail.com Wed Jan 6 12:25:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC73E3A694F for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:25:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.222 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.222 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FRT_SOMA2=2.199] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ONilWSMYMLRU for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f216.google.com (mail-fx0-f216.google.com [209.85.220.216]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ABFC3A6944 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2010 12:25:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by fxm8 with SMTP id 8so16078087fxm.7 for ; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:25:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:reply-to:received :in-reply-to:references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CVgDIsnrU87rCNXD1CNQ0VfgF0FHjzCE4wcHRtT+0gc=; b=SUbCxOYzj5+LgnKHATe8UM6SyZulZjOm5XweMj4P24tSU/Fwwftg5RAUSg2piDkzTV AHwlcn20NxcVJN7Xp/4n2Axbl5vn1ynfiJB3zpB2PeYxzFiXAR7+r/6tCPZNftKxYZnC 1ncGjvEN6+ICXpZ4oVA9EKWpt56IjpmQxOWkQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Fl3JX24+l7/8gikZ8ArRifQNOwSO2aIXlotVQ8yevE7bNgCrARyuHybi6Po0EnWflX dYPi7z2ZsJhqSFyJUJf90bm9rzNCSJyMpjhiScpzmYqPh3Zj9dUSosCG7rEub7Bj8d5O DvPelUG/h3xTtniOrAHsbdSK+y5HVKZ2ESqXY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: john.buford@gmail.com Received: by 10.239.159.146 with SMTP id y18mr265123hbc.196.1262809516608; Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:25:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:25:16 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b4f01f83d1acc4db Message-ID: <4ce32a821001061225l7b7076f3p30236f3ac1e4fee8@mail.gmail.com> From: John Buford To: Rick Boivie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: sam Subject: Re: [SAM] Jan 5 NY Times: A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: buford@samrg.org List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:25:24 -0000 Rick, We are planning to deploy a testbed in 2010 to demonstrate the hybrid overl= ay protocols. This could pave the way to future standardization in a WG. John On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Rick Boivie wrote: > > John et al, > > Regarding the article that appeared in yesterday's New York Times, > > If Internet-connected TV's and family room videoconferencing takes off > (along with corporate videoconferencing) then the Internet is going to ne= ed > something > like Xcast, SGM or SAM to efficiently handle very large numbers of small > multicast groups. > > What's the latest on the SAM RG? > and what are the prospects of progressing to an IETF WG and developing a > standard? > > Rick Boivie > IBM T. J. Watson Research Center > (still interested in Xcast & SAM but also working on other things) > > > A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/05/technology/internet/05hdtv.html?hpw > > January 5, 2010 > A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room > By BRAD STONE > > SAN FRANCISCO =97 There will soon be something new to watch on the living= room > TV: your relatives and friends in different parts of the world. > > On Tuesday, Panasonic and LG Electronics, two of the top television maker= s, > are to announce that they are integrating the free online calling service > Skype into their Internet-connected high-definition televisions. > > People who buy these TVs, along with an extra Web camera and microphone > accessory designed for the living room, can conduct free, live video chat= s > and phone calls from the couch. > > The announcement is the first of many expected from TV manufacturers at t= he > Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week. Television makers are > trying to give consumers reasons to begin replacing their high-definition > TVs that they bought only in the last few years. TV makers are also trott= ing > out ever-slimmer TVs, adding Internet connections and preparing to introd= uce > 3-D technology. > > =93This is the year when Internet-connected TVs will start to take off, a= nd > there is no doubt that soon every TV that ships will have built in Wi-Fi, > webcams and microphones,=94 said Jonathan Rosenberg, chief technology > strategist of Skype. =93This is our first step.=94 > > The domestic TV market survived the recession in surprisingly good health= , > shipping 33.86 million units during 2009, up 17 percent from 2008, while > retail sales were generally flat, according to the research firm iSuppli. > But furious competition among manufacturers cut deeply into prices and > profits, with the price of a 46-inch LCD TV, for example, falling under > $1,000 for the first time. > > Internet-enabled TV sets, though they have not yet proved a hit with > consumers, can restore some of those shrunken profits. A 50-inch plasma, > high-definition TV with a broadband connection from LG runs about $300 mo= re > on Amazon.com than a TV of the same size without the connection. In some > cases, TV makers also get a slice of the revenue when customers make Web > purchases from their TVs. > > That is where Skype comes in. Until now, Web-connected TVs have accessed > only a limited number of online services, like widgets from Yahoo that of= fer > weather and news updates, or Netflix=92s streaming movie service. By addi= ng > other services and making a television more like a PC, TV makers now want= to > change the very identity of the primary screen in the house. > > =93The TV is not just a one-way entertainment device, but a two-way > communications device and a portal into other people=92s lives,=94 said B= ob > Perry, a senior vice president at Panasonic. > > The Skype service on a TV will work much as it does on a PC, but with som= e > limitations. A TV program will stop playing once a Skype call is made or > answered; TV processors are not yet powerful enough to allow people to ch= at > while they watch a show, the companies say. > > Panasonic, based in Japan, and LG, based in South Korea, will sell specia= lly > designed Web cameras for their Skype-enabled sets, which should cost $100= to > $200. These cameras, unlike typical webcams, are customized for the > technically challenging environment of the living room, where there can b= e a > wide range of distances between the TV and viewers. > > The deals give the newly independent Skype, formerly a division of eBay, > another valuable foothold in the home. About 520 million people around th= e > world use the service to place free phone calls and have video chats with > one another from their computers and other devices that run Skype softwar= e. > The company makes money by charging competitive rates for people to call > regular phone numbers and for add-on services like voice mail. > > Video chatting has become an increasingly important feature of Skype. The > company says video chats account for 34 percent of calls on the service, = and > as many as half on days like Christmas and New Year=92s, when families se= ek to > connect face to face. > > To further nurture this activity, Skype is also announcing on Tuesday tha= t > its software for Windows PCs and televisions will support high-definition > video calling in the 720p HD format, if users have webcams that support t= he > technology. > > Skype makes no money from video chats, at least for now. But Mr. Rosenber= g > of the company says that it may soon start charging for add-on services, > like the ability to set up a video conference call for three or more > parties. > > =93What we finally created with the Skype network is a community of users= that > are available via video. Having Skype on the TV is a big part of building > that,=94 he said. > > Not everyone believes Internet-enabled TVs, with features like Skype, are > going to make much of a difference to consumers. Riddhi Patel, an analyst= at > iSuppli, says he thinks that innovations like LED-backlighting for LCDs, > which can result in a picture with a crisper contrast ratio and a thinner > screen, are what catch shoppers=92 eyes in stores. > > =93When a consumer walks into the store, they make a purchase when they c= an > instantly see the benefit of upgrading to a new TV,=94 Ms. Patel said. > > _______________________________________________ > SAM mailing list > SAM@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam > > From rhboivie@us.ibm.com Thu Jan 7 09:38:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D563A68E0 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:38:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, FRT_SOMA2=2.199, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_41=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_61=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_71=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pl1Rx-yjFbja for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from e8.ny.us.ibm.com (e8.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.138]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7503A68D7 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 09:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from d01relay03.pok.ibm.com (d01relay03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.235]) by e8.ny.us.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o07HWkbN029372 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:32:46 -0500 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay03.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id o07HccI4134346 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:38:38 -0500 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id o07Hcc4d008263 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:38:38 -0200 Received: from d01ml605.pok.ibm.com (d01ml605.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.91]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id o07Hcc4W008260; Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:38:38 -0200 In-Reply-To: <4ce32a821001061225l7b7076f3p30236f3ac1e4fee8@mail.gmail.com> References: <4ce32a821001061225l7b7076f3p30236f3ac1e4fee8@mail.gmail.com> To: buford@samrg.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: 2E3EDF25:16DB2B62-852576A4:005FCB81; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.2 HF623 January 16, 2009 From: Rick Boivie Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:38:34 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML605/01/M/IBM(Release 8.5.1HF41 | October 22, 2009) at 01/07/2010 12:38:37, Serialize complete at 01/07/2010 12:38:37 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00601D77852576A4_=" Cc: sam Subject: Re: [SAM] Jan 5 NY Times: A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:38:50 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00601D77852576A4_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool.=20 John, Cool. Can you or somebody else on the list, let me know what the latest is with solutions (hybrid or non-hybrid) involving Xcast? Thanks. Rick john.buford@gmail.com wrote on 01/06/2010 03:25:16 PM: > Rick, >=20 > We are planning to deploy a testbed in 2010 to demonstrate the hybrid=20 overlay > protocols. This could pave the way to future standardization in a WG. >=20 > John >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Rick Boivie wrote: > > > > John et al, > > > > Regarding the article that appeared in yesterday's New York Times, > > > > If Internet-connected TV's and family room videoconferencing takes off > > (along with corporate videoconferencing) then the Internet is going to = need > > something > > like Xcast, SGM or SAM to efficiently handle very large numbers of=20 small > > multicast groups. > > > > What's the latest on the SAM RG? > > and what are the prospects of progressing to an IETF WG and developing = a > > standard? > > > > Rick Boivie > > IBM T. J. Watson Research Center > > (still interested in Xcast & SAM but also working on other things) > > > > > > A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/05/technology/internet/05hdtv.html?hpw > > > > January 5, 2010 > > A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room > > By BRAD STONE > > > > SAN FRANCISCO ? There will soon be something new to watch on the=20 living room > > TV: your relatives and friends in different parts of the world. > > > > On Tuesday, Panasonic and LG Electronics, two of the top television=20 makers, > > are to announce that they are integrating the free online calling=20 service > > Skype into their Internet-connected high-definition televisions. > > > > People who buy these TVs, along with an extra Web camera and=20 microphone > > accessory designed for the living room, can conduct free, live video=20 chats > > and phone calls from the couch. > > > > The announcement is the first of many expected from TV manufacturers=20 at the > > Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week. Television makers=20 are > > trying to give consumers reasons to begin replacing their=20 high-definition > > TVs that they bought only in the last few years. TV makers are also=20 trotting > > out ever-slimmer TVs, adding Internet connections and preparing=20 tointroduce > > 3-D technology. > > > > ?This is the year when Internet-connected TVs will start to take off,=20 and > > there is no doubt that soon every TV that ships will have built in=20 Wi-Fi, > > webcams and microphones,? said Jonathan Rosenberg, chief technology > > strategist of Skype. ?This is our first step.? > > > > The domestic TV market survived the recession in surprisingly good=20 health, > > shipping 33.86 million units during 2009, up 17 percent from 2008,=20 while > > retail sales were generally flat, according to the research firm=20 iSuppli. > > But furious competition among manufacturers cut deeply into prices and > > profits, with the price of a 46-inch LCD TV, for example, falling=20 under > > $1,000 for the first time. > > > > Internet-enabled TV sets, though they have not yet proved a hit with > > consumers, can restore some of those shrunken profits. A 50-inch=20 plasma, > > high-definition TV with a broadband connection from LG runs about $300 = more > > on Amazon.com than a TV of the same size without the connection. In=20 some > > cases, TV makers also get a slice of the revenue when customers make=20 Web > > purchases from their TVs. > > > > That is where Skype comes in. Until now, Web-connected TVs have=20 accessed > > only a limited number of online services, like widgets from Yahoo that = offer > > weather and news updates, or Netflix?s streaming movie service. By=20 adding > > other services and making a television more like a PC, TV makers now=20 want to > > change the very identity of the primary screen in the house. > > > > ?The TV is not just a one-way entertainment device, but a two-way > > communications device and a portal into other people?s lives,? said=20 Bob > > Perry, a senior vice president at Panasonic. > > > > The Skype service on a TV will work much as it does on a PC, but with=20 some > > limitations. A TV program will stop playing once a Skype call is made=20 or > > answered; TV processors are not yet powerful enough to allow people to = chat > > while they watch a show, the companies say. > > > > Panasonic, based in Japan, and LG, based in South Korea, will=20 sellspecially > > designed Web cameras for their Skype-enabled sets, which should cost=20 $100 to > > $200. These cameras, unlike typical webcams, are customized for the > > technically challenging environment of the living room, where there=20 can be a > > wide range of distances between the TV and viewers. > > > > The deals give the newly independent Skype, formerly a division of=20 eBay, > > another valuable foothold in the home. About 520 million people around = the > > world use the service to place free phone calls and have video chats=20 with > > one another from their computers and other devices that run Skype=20 software. > > The company makes money by charging competitive rates for people to=20 call > > regular phone numbers and for add-on services like voice mail. > > > > Video chatting has become an increasingly important feature of Skype.=20 The > > company says video chats account for 34 percent of calls on the=20 service, and > > as many as half on days like Christmas and New Year?s, when families=20 seek to > > connect face to face. > > > > To further nurture this activity, Skype is also announcing on Tuesday=20 that > > its software for Windows PCs and televisions will support=20 high-definition > > video calling in the 720p HD format, if users have webcams that=20 support the > > technology. > > > > Skype makes no money from video chats, at least for now. But Mr.=20 Rosenberg > > of the company says that it may soon start charging for add-on=20 services, > > like the ability to set up a video conference call for three or more > > parties. > > > > ?What we finally created with the Skype network is a community of=20 users that > > are available via video. Having Skype on the TV is a big part of=20 building > > that,? he said. > > > > Not everyone believes Internet-enabled TVs, with features like Skype,=20 are > > going to make much of a difference to consumers. Riddhi Patel, an=20 analyst at > > iSuppli, says he thinks that innovations like LED-backlighting for=20 LCDs, > > which can result in a picture with a crisper contrast ratio and a=20 thinner > > screen, are what catch shoppers? eyes in stores. > > > > ?When a consumer walks into the store, they make a purchase when they=20 can > > instantly see the benefit of upgrading to a new TV,? Ms. Patel said. > > > > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F > > SAM mailing list > > SAM@irtf.org > > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam > > > > --=_alternative 00601D77852576A4_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cool.  

John,
Cool.  Can you or somebody else on the list, let me know what the latest
is with solutions (hybrid or non-hybrid) involving Xcast?
Thanks.
Rick

john.buford@gmail.com wrote on 01/06/2010 03:25:16 PM:
> Rick,
>
> We are planning to deploy a testbed in 2010 to demonstrate the hybrid overlay
> protocols.  This could pave the way to future standardization in a WG.
>
> John
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Rick Boivie <rhboivie@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > John et al,
> >
> > Regarding the article that appeared in yesterday's New York Times= ,
> >
> > If Internet-connected TV's and family room videoconferencing takes off
> > (along with corporate videoconferencing) then the Internet is going to need
> > something
> > like Xcast, SGM or SAM to efficiently handle very large numbers of small
> > multicast groups.
> >
> > What's the latest on the SAM RG?
> > and what are the prospects of progressing to an IETF WG and devel= oping a
> > standard?
> >
> > Rick Boivie
> > IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
> > (still interested in Xcast & SAM but also working on other things)
> >
> >
> > A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/0= 1/05/technology/internet/05hdtv.html?hpw=
> >
> > January 5, 2010
> > A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room
> > By BRAD STONE
> >
> > SAN FRANCISCO — There will soon be something new to watch on the living room
> > TV: your relatives and friends in different parts of the world. > >
> > On Tuesday, Panasonic and LG Electronics, two of the top televisi= on makers,
> > are to announce that they are integrating the free online calling service
> > Skype into their Internet-connected high-definition televisions.<= br> > >
> > People who buy these TVs, along with an extra Web camera and microphone
> > accessory designed for the living room, can conduct free, live video chats
> > and phone calls from the couch.
> >
> > The announcement is the first of many expected from TV manufactur= ers at the
> > Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week. Television makers are
> > trying to give consumers reasons to begin replacing their high-de= finition
> > TVs that they bought only in the last few years. TV makers are also trotting
> > out ever-slimmer TVs, adding Internet connections and preparing tointroduce
> > 3-D technology.
> >
> > “This is the year when Internet-connected TVs will start to take off, and
> > there is no doubt that soon every TV that ships will have built in Wi-Fi,
> > webcams and microphones,” said Jonathan Rosenberg, chief te= chnology
> > strategist of Skype. “This is our first step.”
> >
> > The domestic TV market survived the recession in surprisingly good health,
> > shipping 33.86 million units during 2009, up 17 percent from 2008, while
> > retail sales were generally flat, according to the research firm iSuppli.
> > But furious competition among manufacturers cut deeply into prices and
> > profits, with the price of a 46-inch LCD TV, for example, falling under
> > $1,000 for the first time.
> >
> > Internet-enabled TV sets, though they have not yet proved a hit with
> > consumers, can restore some of those shrunken profits. A 50-inch plasma,
> > high-definition TV with a broadband connection from LG runs about $300 more
> > on Amazon.com than a TV of the same size without the connection. In some
> > cases, TV makers also get a slice of the revenue when customers make Web
> > purchases from their TVs.
> >
> > That is where Skype comes in. Until now, Web-connected TVs have accessed
> > only a limited number of online services, like widgets from Yahoo that offer
> > weather and news updates, or Netflix’s streaming movie serv= ice. By adding
> > other services and making a television more like a PC, TV makers now want to
> > change the very identity of the primary screen in the house.
> >
> > “The TV is not just a one-way entertainment device, but a t= wo-way
> > communications device and a portal into other people’s live= s,” said Bob
> > Perry, a senior vice president at Panasonic.
> >
> > The Skype service on a TV will work much as it does on a PC, but with some
> > limitations. A TV program will stop playing once a Skype call is made or
> > answered; TV processors are not yet powerful enough to allow people to chat
> > while they watch a show, the companies say.
> >
> > Panasonic, based in Japan, and LG, based in South Korea, will sellspecially
> > designed Web cameras for their Skype-enabled sets, which should cost $100 to
> > $200. These cameras, unlike typical webcams, are customized for the
> > technically challenging environment of the living room, where there can be a
> > wide range of distances between the TV and viewers.
> >
> > The deals give the newly independent Skype, formerly a division of eBay,
> > another valuable foothold in the home. About 520 million people around the
> > world use the service to place free phone calls and have video chats with
> > one another from their computers and other devices that run Skype software.
> > The company makes money by charging competitive rates for people to call
> > regular phone numbers and for add-on services like voice mail.
> >
> > Video chatting has become an increasingly important feature of Skype. The
> > company says video chats account for 34 percent of calls on the service, and
> > as many as half on days like Christmas and New Year’s, when families seek to
> > connect face to face.
> >
> > To further nurture this activity, Skype is also announcing on Tuesday that
> > its software for Windows PCs and televisions will support high-de= finition
> > video calling in the 720p HD format, if users have webcams that support the
> > technology.
> >
> > Skype makes no money from video chats, at least for now. But Mr. Rosenberg
> > of the company says that it may soon start charging for add-on services,
> > like the ability to set up a video conference call for three or more
> > parties.
> >
> > “What we finally created with the Skype network is a commun= ity of users that
> > are available via video. Having Skype on the TV is a big part of building
> > that,” he said.
> >
> > Not everyone believes Internet-enabled TVs, with features like Skype, are
> > going to make much of a difference to consumers. Riddhi Patel, an analyst at
> > iSuppli, says he thinks that innovations like LED-backlighting for LCDs,
> > which can result in a picture with a crisper contrast ratio and a thinner
> > screen, are what catch shoppers’ eyes in stores.
> >
> > “When a consumer walks into the store, they make a purchase when they can
> > instantly see the benefit of upgrading to a new TV,” Ms. Pa= tel said.
> >
> > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F
> > SAM mailing list
> > SAM@irtf.org
> > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam
> >
> >
 --=_alternative 00601D77852576A4_=-- From rhboivie@us.ibm.com Mon Jan 11 13:02:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA933A68A5 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:02:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.649 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.649 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.650, BAYES_50=0.001, FRT_SOMA2=2.199, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_41=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_61=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_71=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hnd72ka98QyE for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:02:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from e8.ny.us.ibm.com (e8.ny.us.ibm.com [32.97.182.138]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC913A68A2 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from d01relay07.pok.ibm.com (d01relay07.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.147]) by e8.ny.us.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o0BKuX12018086 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 15:56:33 -0500 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay07.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id o0BL2WxN1343692 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:02:32 -0500 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id o0BL2V5h001302 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:02:32 -0200 Received: from d01ml605.pok.ibm.com (d01ml605.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.91]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id o0BL2Vmt001282; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:02:31 -0200 To: John Buford , john.buford@gmail.com, sam MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: 5A74236A:A8990FBF-852576A8:0072B807; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.0.2 HF623 January 16, 2009 From: Rick Boivie Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:02:30 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D01ML605/01/M/IBM(Release 8.5.1HF41 | October 22, 2009) at 01/11/2010 16:02:30, Serialize complete at 01/11/2010 16:02:30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0073183F852576A8_=" Subject: [SAM] Fw: Jan 5 NY Times: A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:02:54 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0073183F852576A8_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, Cool. UG & Muramoto-san, What's the latest on Xcast -- which seems pretty important if family-room videoconferencing and corporate video-conferencing really take off. Rick john.buford@gmail.com wrote on 01/06/2010 03:25:16 PM: > Rick, >=20 > We are planning to deploy a testbed in 2010 to demonstrate the hybrid=20 overlay > protocols. This could pave the way to future standardization in a WG. >=20 > John >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Rick Boivie wrote: > > > > John et al, > > > > Regarding the article that appeared in yesterday's New York Times, > > > > If Internet-connected TV's and family room videoconferencing takes off > > (along with corporate videoconferencing) then the Internet is going to = need > > something > > like Xcast, SGM or SAM to efficiently handle very large numbers of=20 small > > multicast groups. > > > > What's the latest on the SAM RG? > > and what are the prospects of progressing to an IETF WG and developing = a > > standard? > > > > Rick Boivie > > IBM T. J. Watson Research Center > > (still interested in Xcast & SAM but also working on other things) > > > > > > A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/05/technology/internet/05hdtv.html?hpw > > > > January 5, 2010 > > A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room > > By BRAD STONE > > > > SAN FRANCISCO ? There will soon be something new to watch on the=20 living room > > TV: your relatives and friends in different parts of the world. > > > > On Tuesday, Panasonic and LG Electronics, two of the top television=20 makers, > > are to announce that they are integrating the free online calling=20 service > > Skype into their Internet-connected high-definition televisions. > > > > People who buy these TVs, along with an extra Web camera and=20 microphone > > accessory designed for the living room, can conduct free, live video=20 chats > > and phone calls from the couch. > > > > The announcement is the first of many expected from TV manufacturers=20 at the > > Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week. Television makers=20 are > > trying to give consumers reasons to begin replacing their=20 high-definition > > TVs that they bought only in the last few years. TV makers are also=20 trotting > > out ever-slimmer TVs, adding Internet connections and preparing=20 tointroduce > > 3-D technology. > > > > ?This is the year when Internet-connected TVs will start to take off,=20 and > > there is no doubt that soon every TV that ships will have built in=20 Wi-Fi, > > webcams and microphones,? said Jonathan Rosenberg, chief technology > > strategist of Skype. ?This is our first step.? > > > > The domestic TV market survived the recession in surprisingly good=20 health, > > shipping 33.86 million units during 2009, up 17 percent from 2008,=20 while > > retail sales were generally flat, according to the research firm=20 iSuppli. > > But furious competition among manufacturers cut deeply into prices and > > profits, with the price of a 46-inch LCD TV, for example, falling=20 under > > $1,000 for the first time. > > > > Internet-enabled TV sets, though they have not yet proved a hit with > > consumers, can restore some of those shrunken profits. A 50-inch=20 plasma, > > high-definition TV with a broadband connection from LG runs about $300 = more > > on Amazon.com than a TV of the same size without the connection. In=20 some > > cases, TV makers also get a slice of the revenue when customers make=20 Web > > purchases from their TVs. > > > > That is where Skype comes in. Until now, Web-connected TVs have=20 accessed > > only a limited number of online services, like widgets from Yahoo that = offer > > weather and news updates, or Netflix?s streaming movie service. By=20 adding > > other services and making a television more like a PC, TV makers now=20 want to > > change the very identity of the primary screen in the house. > > > > ?The TV is not just a one-way entertainment device, but a two-way > > communications device and a portal into other people?s lives,? said=20 Bob > > Perry, a senior vice president at Panasonic. > > > > The Skype service on a TV will work much as it does on a PC, but with=20 some > > limitations. A TV program will stop playing once a Skype call is made=20 or > > answered; TV processors are not yet powerful enough to allow people to = chat > > while they watch a show, the companies say. > > > > Panasonic, based in Japan, and LG, based in South Korea, will=20 sellspecially > > designed Web cameras for their Skype-enabled sets, which should cost=20 $100 to > > $200. These cameras, unlike typical webcams, are customized for the > > technically challenging environment of the living room, where there=20 can be a > > wide range of distances between the TV and viewers. > > > > The deals give the newly independent Skype, formerly a division of=20 eBay, > > another valuable foothold in the home. About 520 million people around = the > > world use the service to place free phone calls and have video chats=20 with > > one another from their computers and other devices that run Skype=20 software. > > The company makes money by charging competitive rates for people to=20 call > > regular phone numbers and for add-on services like voice mail. > > > > Video chatting has become an increasingly important feature of Skype.=20 The > > company says video chats account for 34 percent of calls on the=20 service, and > > as many as half on days like Christmas and New Year?s, when families=20 seek to > > connect face to face. > > > > To further nurture this activity, Skype is also announcing on Tuesday=20 that > > its software for Windows PCs and televisions will support=20 high-definition > > video calling in the 720p HD format, if users have webcams that=20 support the > > technology. > > > > Skype makes no money from video chats, at least for now. But Mr.=20 Rosenberg > > of the company says that it may soon start charging for add-on=20 services, > > like the ability to set up a video conference call for three or more > > parties. > > > > ?What we finally created with the Skype network is a community of=20 users that > > are available via video. Having Skype on the TV is a big part of=20 building > > that,? he said. > > > > Not everyone believes Internet-enabled TVs, with features like Skype,=20 are > > going to make much of a difference to consumers. Riddhi Patel, an=20 analyst at > > iSuppli, says he thinks that innovations like LED-backlighting for=20 LCDs, > > which can result in a picture with a crisper contrast ratio and a=20 thinner > > screen, are what catch shoppers? eyes in stores. > > > > ?When a consumer walks into the store, they make a purchase when they=20 can > > instantly see the benefit of upgrading to a new TV,? Ms. Patel said. > > > > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F > > SAM mailing list > > SAM@irtf.org > > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam > > > > --=_alternative 0073183F852576A8_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John,  Cool.

UG & Muramoto-san,  What's the latest on Xcast  -- which
seems pretty important if family-room videoconferenc= ing
and corporate video-conferencing really take off.

Rick

john.buford@gmail.com wrote on 01/06/2010 03:25:16 PM:
> Rick,
>
> We are planning to deploy a testbed in 2010 to demonstrate the hybrid overlay
> protocols.  This could pave the way to future standardization in a WG.
>
> John
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Rick Boivie <rhboivie@us.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > John et al,
> >
> > Regarding the article that appeared in yesterday's New York Times= ,
> >
> > If Internet-connected TV's and family room videoconferencing takes off
> > (along with corporate videoconferencing) then the Internet is going to need
> > something
> > like Xcast, SGM or SAM to efficiently handle very large numbers of small
> > multicast groups.
> >
> > What's the latest on the SAM RG?
> > and what are the prospects of progressing to an IETF WG and devel= oping a
> > standard?
> >
> > Rick Boivie
> > IBM T. J. Watson Research Center
> > (still interested in Xcast & SAM but also working on other things)
> >
> >
> > A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room
> > http://www.ny= times.com/2010/01/05/technology/internet/05hdtv.html?hpw
> >
> > January 5, 2010
> > A Venture Integrating Skype Into the Family Room
> > By BRAD STONE
> >
> > SAN FRANCISCO — There will soon be something new to watch on the living room
> > TV: your relatives and friends in different parts of the world. > >
> > On Tuesday, Panasonic and LG Electronics, two of the top televisi= on makers,
> > are to announce that they are integrating the free online calling service
> > Skype into their Internet-connected high-definition televisions.<= br> > >
> > People who buy these TVs, along with an extra Web camera and microphone
> > accessory designed for the living room, can conduct free, live video chats
> > and phone calls from the couch.
> >
> > The announcement is the first of many expected from TV manufactur= ers at the
> > Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas this week. Television makers are
> > trying to give consumers reasons to begin replacing their high-de= finition
> > TVs that they bought only in the last few years. TV makers are also trotting
> > out ever-slimmer TVs, adding Internet connections and preparing tointroduce
> > 3-D technology.
> >
> > “This is the year when Internet-connected TVs will start to take off, and
> > there is no doubt that soon every TV that ships will have built in Wi-Fi,
> > webcams and microphones,” said Jonathan Rosenberg, chief te= chnology
> > strategist of Skype. “This is our first step.”
> >
> > The domestic TV market survived the recession in surprisingly good health,
> > shipping 33.86 million units during 2009, up 17 percent from 2008, while
> > retail sales were generally flat, according to the research firm iSuppli.
> > But furious competition among manufacturers cut deeply into prices and
> > profits, with the price of a 46-inch LCD TV, for example, falling under
> > $1,000 for the first time.
> >
> > Internet-enabled TV sets, though they have not yet proved a hit with
> > consumers, can restore some of those shrunken profits. A 50-inch plasma,
> > high-definition TV with a broadband connection from LG runs about $300 more
> > on Amazon.com than a TV of the same size without the connection. In some
> > cases, TV makers also get a slice of the revenue when customers make Web
> > purchases from their TVs.
> >
> > That is where Skype comes in. Until now, Web-connected TVs have accessed
> > only a limited number of online services, like widgets from Yahoo that offer
> > weather and news updates, or Netflix’s streaming movie serv= ice. By adding
> > other services and making a television more like a PC, TV makers now want to
> > change the very identity of the primary screen in the house.
> >
> > “The TV is not just a one-way entertainment device, but a t= wo-way
> > communications device and a portal into other people’s live= s,” said Bob
> > Perry, a senior vice president at Panasonic.
> >
> > The Skype service on a TV will work much as it does on a PC, but with some
> > limitations. A TV program will stop playing once a Skype call is made or
> > answered; TV processors are not yet powerful enough to allow people to chat
> > while they watch a show, the companies say.
> >
> > Panasonic, based in Japan, and LG, based in South Korea, will sellspecially
> > designed Web cameras for their Skype-enabled sets, which should cost $100 to
> > $200. These cameras, unlike typical webcams, are customized for the
> > technically challenging environment of the living room, where there can be a
> > wide range of distances between the TV and viewers.
> >
> > The deals give the newly independent Skype, formerly a division of eBay,
> > another valuable foothold in the home. About 520 million people around the
> > world use the service to place free phone calls and have video chats with
> > one another from their computers and other devices that run Skype software.
> > The company makes money by charging competitive rates for people to call
> > regular phone numbers and for add-on services like voice mail.
> >
> > Video chatting has become an increasingly important feature of Skype. The
> > company says video chats account for 34 percent of calls on the service, and
> > as many as half on days like Christmas and New Year’s, when families seek to
> > connect face to face.
> >
> > To further nurture this activity, Skype is also announcing on Tuesday that
> > its software for Windows PCs and televisions will support high-de= finition
> > video calling in the 720p HD format, if users have webcams that support the
> > technology.
> >
> > Skype makes no money from video chats, at least for now. But Mr. Rosenberg
> > of the company says that it may soon start charging for add-on services,
> > like the ability to set up a video conference call for three or more
> > parties.
> >
> > “What we finally created with the Skype network is a commun= ity of users that
> > are available via video. Having Skype on the TV is a big part of building
> > that,” he said.
> >
> > Not everyone believes Internet-enabled TVs, with features like Skype, are
> > going to make much of a difference to consumers. Riddhi Patel, an analyst at
> > iSuppli, says he thinks that innovations like LED-backlighting for LCDs,
> > which can result in a picture with a crisper contrast ratio and a thinner
> > screen, are what catch shoppers’ eyes in stores.
> >
> > “When a consumer walks into the store, they make a purchase when they can
> > instantly see the benefit of upgrading to a new TV,” Ms. Pa= tel said.
> >
> > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F
> > SAM mailing list
> > SAM@irtf.org
> > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/sam
> >
> >
--=_alternative 0073183F852576A8_=-- From jlloret@dcom.upv.es Sat Jan 16 02:22:00 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E99C3A694C for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:22:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HfEV0vRBmraD for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from marfik.cc.upv.es (marfik.cc.upv.es [158.42.249.21]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F823A6949 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpx.upv.es (smtpxv.cc.upv.es [158.42.249.46]) by marfik.cc.upv.es (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o0GALqb2020507 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:21:52 +0100 Received: from smtp.upv.es (celaeno.cc.upv.es [158.42.249.55]) by smtpx.upv.es (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o0GALqu5019571 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:21:52 +0100 Received: from JLLORET (vpn245-47.vpns.upv.es [158.42.245.47]) by smtp.upv.es (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id o0GALpCx032641 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:21:52 +0100 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:21:52 +0100 Message-Id: <201001161021.o0GALpCx032641@smtp.upv.es> From: Jaime Lloret Mauri To: SAM@irtf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [SAM] CFP: AHSWN - An International Journal, Special Issue on User-oriented, Service-oriented and Spontaneous Wireless Ad-hoc Networks X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:22:00 -0000 [Apologize in advance for cross-postings] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Call for Papers Ad Hoc & Sensor Wireless Networks: An International Journal Special Issue on User-oriented, Service-oriented and Spontaneous Wireless Ad-hoc Networks http://www.oldcitypublishing.com/AHSWN/AHSWN.html Overview There are many Ad Hoc Wireless Networks where several types of users and services must be integrated. 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Important Dates =============== Feb 15, 2010: Proposal Submission Deadline February 28, 2010: Notification of Acceptance June 30, 2010: Full Chapter Submission August 15, 2010: Review Results Returned October 15, 2010: Final Camera-Ready Chapter Submission November 15, 2010: Camera-Ready Manuscript to Publisher Chapter Proposals ================= Inquiries and submissions can be forwarded electronically to: editors at samrg dot org with Subject: book chapter proposal From schmidt@informatik.haw-hamburg.de Sun Jan 31 05:09:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: sam@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F37E3A6896 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 05:09:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.407 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.407 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.017, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UyTuz5zKT1Z5 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 05:09:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de (mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de [141.45.10.102]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1DBA3A688C for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 05:09:43 -0800 (PST) Envelope-to: sam@irtf.org Received: from e178144246.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.178.144.246] helo=[192.168.178.20]) by mail2.rz.htw-berlin.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NbZZ6-000Jzq-7U for sam@irtf.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:10:12 +0100 Message-ID: <4B658128.7000207@informatik.haw-hamburg.de> Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:10:00 +0100 From: "Thomas C. Schmidt" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-HTW-SPAMINFO: this message was scanned by eXpurgate (http://www.eleven.de) Subject: [SAM] CfP: PerGroup@GC10 - Workshop on Pervasive Group Communication (IEEE PerGroup) X-BeenThere: sam@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "For use by members of the Scalable Adaptive Multicast \(SAM\) RG" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:09:46 -0000 Dear SAM-RG folks, please take a closer look at the following workshop, which is particularly focussed on SAM topics! Cheers, Thomas [Our apologies if you receive multiple copies of this CfP] CALL FOR PAPERS ** 1st Workshop on Pervasive Group Communication (IEEE PerGroup) ** URL: http://pergroup.realmv6.org Miami, FL, USA, December 6, 2010, held in conjunction with IEEE GLOBECOM 2010, and co-sponsored by IEEE HCCTC sub-committee, G-Lab, and The unbelievable Machine Company Group communications have passed from research to deployment and back to a research issue. Newly deployed services, in particular IPTV, P2P content distribution, and collaborative applications, are stimulating current research on multicast, broadcast, concast, and anycast. Emerging design issues for a future multi-service Internet combined with the dynamic development of wireless access techonologies challenge the community to rethink the position of group communications along the stack. The PerGroup workshop invites the community to share efforts in search of seamless, pervasive group services, and to discuss directions on a human-centric multi-service Inter-networking architecture. We welcome contributions that design new solutions or analyze existing deployments, but also those that present striking problem statements or early conceptual work. Topics of interest include, but are not limited to: System Design & Methodology: - Architectures and protocols for fixed, wireless and ad hoc networks - Protocols and interfaces for intuitive group communications - Intra- and Inter-domain group communication - Native, overlay (including P2P) and hybrid multicast - Topology analysis & measuring, mining and modeling of - media-rich social networks - Measurement, simulation and analytical studies as well as deployment experiences Supporting Technologies: - Multipath routing / extension of emerging routing schemes - Cooperative relaying and network coding - Service placement and service location - Security and privacy issues for multicast, anycast, and broadcast - Real-time and QoS aspects Applications: - Adaptive content distribution, e.g., video broadcasting - Application-layer traffic optimization and provider interaction - Multicast & anycast in a future multi-service Internet - New data distribution models to facilitate group communication - Frameworks for human centric based group communications --------------- IMPORTANT DATES --------------- Full paper: June 25, 2010 Notification: August 12, 2010 Final version: August 31, 2010 ---------------------- ORGANIZATION COMMITTEE ---------------------- Workshop Co-Chairs: - Thomas C. Schmidt, HAW Hamburg, Germany - Matthias Wählisch, Freie Universität Berlin, Germany - Georg Wittenburg, Freie Universität Berlin, Germany Program Committee: - Kevin C. Almeroth, UC Santa Barbara, USA - Emmanuel Baccelli, INRIA, France - Rick Boivie, IBM Watson Research Center, USA - Torsten Braun, University of Bern, Switzerland - John Buford, Avaya Labs Research, USA - Ran Canetti, Tel Aviv University, Israel - Jon Crowcroft, University of Cambridge, UK - Marshall Eubanks, AmericaFree.TV, USA - Gorry Fairhurst, University of Aberdeen, UK - Xiaoming Fu, University of Goettingen, Germany - Xing Jin, UST Hong Kong, China - Nenad Medvidovi, U. of Southern California, USA - Imed Romdhani, Edinburgh Napier University, UK - Thomas C. Schmidt, HAW Hamburg, Germany - Piet Van Mieghem, TU Delft, Netherlands - Stig Venaas, Cisco Systems, USA - Matthias Wählisch, Freie Universität Berlin, Germany - Jörg Widmer, DoCoMo Euro-Labs, Germany - Georg Wittenburg, Freie Universität Berlin, Germany - Heather Yu, Huawei, USA - Thomas Zahn, Nokia, Germany - Martina Zitterbart, University of Karlsruhe, Germany --------------------- SUBMISSION GUIDELINES --------------------- Authors are invited to submit full papers of up to five double-column, IEEE conference-style pages. One additional page will be allowed with additional publication fee. All submitted papers will be carefully evaluated by at least three reviewers based on originality, significance, technical soundness, and clarity of expression. Accepted papers will appear in the IEEE GLOBECOM proceedings and will be included in IEEE digital library. At least one of the authors of accepted papers must attend the workshop to present the paper. An accepted paper must be registered before the registration deadline. IEEE reserves the right to exclude a paper from distribution after the conference (e.g., removal from IEEE Xplore) if the paper is not presented at the workshop. In case of double submissions or (self-)plagiarism, the paper will be excluded from the technical program. Further information: http://pergroup.realmv6.org/submission.html ------- CONTACT ------- For further information regarding PerGroup 2010 and paper submission, please contact pergroup_2010-chairs@edas.info. -- Prof. Dr. Thomas C. Schmidt ° Hamburg University of Applied Sciences Berliner Tor 7 ° ° Dept. Informatik, Internet Technologies Group 20099 Hamburg, Germany ° ° http://www.haw-hamburg.de/inet Fon: +49-40-42875-8452 ° ° http://www.informatik.haw-hamburg.de/~schmidt Fax: +49-40-42875-8409 °