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charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today LTA informs me that they warned the driver and that in the future=20 more severe action would be taken if he fails again. It is interesting to remark how LTA formalizes this offence, that I=20 agree with: "failing to proceed to destination by shortest and most=20 direct route, [...]=C2=A0 under rule 23(1)(c) of Road Traffic [...] Rules= ". (it=C2=A0 makes wonder whether IETF has an RFC that recommends that IP pa= ths=20 should be shortest.) -- Alexandre Petrescu alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223 Le 29/12/2017 =C3=A0 12:16, Alexandre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > > On 12 December they (LTA) were saying that they were still looking=20 > into the matter; they said they'd update me when they have news.=C2=A0 = I=20 > have no news since. > > I think I will stop tracking this. > > Yours, > > -- > Alexandre Petrescu > alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223 > > Le 05/12/2017 =C3=A0 11:05, Alexandre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: >> >> We further exchanged a couple email with LTA in recent days (the=20 >> organisation in charge of Transportation in Singapore). >> >> They confirmed I am situated overseas, and I also answered I prefer=20 >> LTA (rather than the taxi company) to deal with the issue. >> >> Let us see. >> >> -- >> Alexandre Petrescu >> alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223 >> >> Le 03/12/2017 =C3=A0 14:44, Alexandre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: >>> >>> Last Thursday the same officer wrote another email asking same=20 >>> questions, as if s/he did not see my previous answers. >>> >>> I gave same answers, except this time I said I am not opposing=20 >>> writing a signed statement about the facts as I know them. >>> >>> (I did not ask to fly me back First Class, because it would still be = >>> much time to spend). >>> >>> Let's see. >>> >>> -- >>> Alexandre Petrescu >>> alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223 >>> >>> Le 25/11/2017 =C3=A0 18:05, Mikael Abrahamsson a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: >>>> On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Alexandre PETRESCU wrote: >>>> >>>>> ('testify in court'... for such simple matters...) >>>> >>>> I appreciate that they take these matters seriously. This is one=20 >>>> thing I like about Singapore. >>>> >>>> You could at least offer to write a signed statement about the=20 >>>> facts as you know them. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 100attendees mailing list >>> 100attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/100attendees >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 100attendees mailing list >> 100attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/100attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 100attendees mailing list > 100attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/100attendees --------------5D980A4377C2FF8AB6E4838D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Today LTA informs me that they warned the driver and that in the future more severe action would be taken if he fails again.

It is interesting to remark how LTA formalizes this offence, that I agree with: "failing to proceed to destination by shortest and most direct route, [...]=C2=A0 under rule 23(1)(c) of Road Traffic [...] Ru= les".

(it=C2=A0 makes wonde= r whether IETF has an RFC that recommends that IP paths should be shortest.)

--
Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223
Le 29/12/2017 =C3=A0 12:16, Alexandre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

On 12 December they= (LTA) were saying that they were still looking into the matter; they said they'd update me when they have news.=C2=A0= I have no news since.=C2=A0

I think I will stop= tracking this.

Yours,

--
Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0=
169089223
Le 05/12/2017 =C3=A0 11:05, Alexandr= e PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

We further exchan= ged a couple email with LTA in recent days (the organisation in charge of Transportation in Singapore).

They confirmed I = am situated overseas, and I also answered I prefer LTA (rather than the taxi company) to deal with the issue.

Let us see.

--
Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0=
169089223
Le 03/12/2017 =C3=A0 14:44, Alexan= dre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

Last Thursday t= he same officer wrote another email asking same questions, as if s/he did not see my previous answers.

I gave same answers, except this time I said I am not opposing writing a signed statement about the facts as I know them.

(I did not ask = to fly me back First Class, because it would still be much time to spend).

Let's see.

--
Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0=
169089223
Le 25/11/2017 =C3=A0 18:05, Mika= el Abrahamsson a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Alexandre PETRESCU wrote:

('testify in court'... for such simple matters...)

I appreciate that they take these matters seriously. This is one thing I like about Singapore.

You could at least offer to write a signed statement about the facts as you know them. 




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--94eb2c191c268f1ed305630a0c95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OSPF :) On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Alexandre PETRESCU < alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr> wrote: > Today LTA informs me that they warned the driver and that in the future > more severe action would be taken if he fails again. > > It is interesting to remark how LTA formalizes this offence, that I agree > with: "failing to proceed to destination by shortest and most direct rout= e, > [...] under rule 23(1)(c) of Road Traffic [...] Rules". > > (it makes wonder whether IETF has an RFC that recommends that IP paths > should be shortest.) > > -- > Alexandre Petrescualexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223 > > > Le 29/12/2017 =C3=A0 12:16, Alexandre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit : > > On 12 December they (LTA) were saying that they were still looking into > the matter; they said they'd update me when they have news. I have no ne= ws > since. > > I think I will stop tracking this. > > Yours, > > -- > Alexandre Petrescualexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223 > > > Le 05/12/2017 =C3=A0 11:05, Alexandre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit : > > We further exchanged a couple email with LTA in recent days (the > organisation in charge of Transportation in Singapore). > > They confirmed I am situated overseas, and I also answered I prefer LTA > (rather than the taxi company) to deal with the issue. > > Let us see. > > -- > Alexandre Petrescualexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223 > > > Le 03/12/2017 =C3=A0 14:44, Alexandre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit : > > Last Thursday the same officer wrote another email asking same questions, > as if s/he did not see my previous answers. > > I gave same answers, except this time I said I am not opposing writing a > signed statement about the facts as I know them. > > (I did not ask to fly me back First Class, because it would still be much > time to spend). > > Let's see. > > -- > Alexandre Petrescualexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, t=C3=A9l 0169089223 > > > Le 25/11/2017 =C3=A0 18:05, Mikael Abrahamsson a =C3=A9crit : > > On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Alexandre PETRESCU wrote: > > ('testify in court'... for such simple matters...) > > > I appreciate that they take these matters seriously. This is one thing I > like about Singapore. > > You could at least offer to write a signed statement about the facts as > you know them. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 100attendees mailing list100attendees@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailma= n/listinfo/100attendees > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 100attendees mailing list100attendees@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailma= n/listinfo/100attendees > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 100attendees mailing list100attendees@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailma= n/listinfo/100attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 100attendees mailing list > 100attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/100attendees > > --94eb2c191c268f1ed305630a0c95 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OSPF :)

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Alexandre PETRESCU <alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr> wrote:
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Today LTA informs me that they warned the driver and that in the future more severe action would be taken if he fails again.

It is interesting to remark how LTA formalizes this offence, that I agree with: "failing to proceed to destination by shortest and most dire= ct route, [...]=C2=A0 under rule 23(1)(c) of Road Traffic [...] Rule= s".

(it=C2=A0 makes wonder = whether IETF has an RFC that recommends that IP paths should be shortest.)

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Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, =
t=C3=A9l 0169089223
Le 29/12/2017 =C3=A0 12:16, Alexandre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
=20

On 12 December they (LTA) were saying that they were still looking into the matter; they said they'd update me when they have news.=C2= =A0 I have no news since.=C2=A0

I think I will stop tracking this.

Yours,<= br> 

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Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, =
t=C3=A9l 0169089223
Le 05/12/2017 =C3= =A0 11:05, Alexandre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
=20

We further exchange= d a couple email with LTA in recent days (the organisation in charge of Transportation in Singapore).

They confirmed I am situated overseas, and I also answered I prefer LTA (rather than the taxi company) to deal with the issue.=

Let us see.<= /font>

--
Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, =
t=C3=A9l 0169089223
Le 03/12/2017 = =C3=A0 14:44, Alexandre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
=20

Last Thursday the same officer wrote another email asking same questions, as if s/he did not see my previous answers.

I gave same answers, except this time I said I am not opposing writing a signed statement about the facts as I know them.

(I did not ask to fly me back First Class, because it would still be much time to spend).

Let's see. 

--
Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, =
t=C3=A9l 0169089223
Le 25/11/2017= =C3=A0 18:05, Mikael Abrahamsson a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Alexandre PETRESCU wrote:

('testify in court'... for su= ch simple matters...)

I appreciate that they take these matters seriously. This is one thing I like about Singapore.

You could at least offer to write a signed statement about the facts as you know them. 




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[213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x20sm907297edm.47.2018.01.18.04.31.01 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Jan 2018 04:31:02 -0800 (PST) To: Alexandre PETRESCU , 100attendees@ietf.org References: <6449c459-68e5-4fa2-911b-db3cb3d96b80@cea.fr> <7F2A899D-40C3-47CD-A805-5AFF943ABE42@cisco.com> <34351_1511016093_5A10469C_34351_14465_1_d9b4cc17-c882-3f91-9743-0520838871f9@cea.fr> <49171_1511250201_5A13D919_49171_12611_4_4dc8165d-7c2a-4f17-e551-df5cfa711624@cea.fr> <2a7e1dba-9a23-f7bb-532a-07d6ce86a27d@cea.fr> <41893_1512308702_5A23FFDD_41893_19001_1_608b66f0-8bc9-3f43-2d2b-cc79bba7a463@cea.fr> <43545_1512468375_5A266F97_43545_3189_3_53699b1c-2ca2-67ef-b1c5-c73a0afd81db@cea.fr> <10010_1514546205_5A46241C_10010_16012_1_00de851e-e8c5-ee37-cf32-c4b340ae8aac@cea.fr> From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:30:59 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------823E514EF93325593D234C7D" Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [100attendees] Long taxi itinerary from IETF hotel to airport X-BeenThere: 100attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 100 attendees that have opted in on this list." <100attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:31:06 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------823E514EF93325593D234C7D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 18/01/2018 09:47, Alexandre PETRESCU wrote: > > (it  makes wonder whether IETF has an RFC that recommends that IP > paths should be shortest.) > > If there is, hopefully it says SHOULD and not MUST. 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On 18/01/2018 09:47, Alexandre PETRESCU wrote:

(it  makes wonder whether IETF has an RFC that recommends that IP paths should be shortest.)



If there is, hopefully it says SHOULD and not MUST.

Stewart
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[213.123.124.182]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i203sm5587814wmf.34.2018.01.18.04.34.58 for <100attendees@ietf.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Jan 2018 04:34:59 -0800 (PST) To: 100attendees@ietf.org References: <6449c459-68e5-4fa2-911b-db3cb3d96b80@cea.fr> <7F2A899D-40C3-47CD-A805-5AFF943ABE42@cisco.com> <34351_1511016093_5A10469C_34351_14465_1_d9b4cc17-c882-3f91-9743-0520838871f9@cea.fr> <49171_1511250201_5A13D919_49171_12611_4_4dc8165d-7c2a-4f17-e551-df5cfa711624@cea.fr> <2a7e1dba-9a23-f7bb-532a-07d6ce86a27d@cea.fr> <41893_1512308702_5A23FFDD_41893_19001_1_608b66f0-8bc9-3f43-2d2b-cc79bba7a463@cea.fr> <43545_1512468375_5A266F97_43545_3189_3_53699b1c-2ca2-67ef-b1c5-c73a0afd81db@cea.fr> <10010_1514546205_5A46241C_10010_16012_1_00de851e-e8c5-ee37-cf32-c4b340ae8aac@cea.fr> From: Stewart Bryant Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:34:56 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB Archived-At: Subject: Re: [100attendees] Long taxi itinerary from IETF hotel to airport X-BeenThere: 100attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 100 attendees that have opted in on this list." <100attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:35:04 -0000 On 18/01/2018 10:02, Fernando Gont wrote: > On 01/18/2018 06:47 AM, Alexandre PETRESCU wrote: >> Today LTA informs me that they warned the driver and that in the future >> more severe action would be taken if he fails again. >> >> It is interesting to remark how LTA formalizes this offence, that I >> agree with: "failing to proceed to destination by shortest and most >> direct route, [...]  under rule 23(1)(c) of Road Traffic [...] Rules". >> >> (it  makes wonder whether IETF has an RFC that recommends that IP paths >> should be shortest.) > At times it requires good traffic engineering to properly deliver the > passengers -- "shortest" path could be congested :-) > In FRR you might take a longer path in order to cater the possibility that a node rather than a link might have failed. Stewart