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Do you have an idea, problem space, or proposal that IETFers should hear 
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Do you want to propose IETF work but aren’t sure if your idea is ready 
or who will be interested?

Get a slot at the Request for Conversation (HotRFC) lightning talk 
session. Presenters will get 5 minutes and a slide or two to make their 
case for collaboration. Interested folks can continue the discussion 
afterwards and over the week. Goals include encouraging brainstorming 
conversations, helping new work ideas to find co-collaborators, raising 
awareness of relevant work going on elsewhere, and promote BarBofs. 
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IETF 101
London, UK
March 17-23, 2018
Host: Google and ICANN

IETF 101 Information: https://ietf.org/how/meetings/101/
Register online at: https://ietf.org/how/meetings/register/

IETF 101 Social Event

Date: Tuesday, 20 March, 2018
Time: 19:00 - 23:00
Cost: $35 USD per ticket, limit two per attendee. 
Hosted by: Google and ICANN
Location: Science Museum https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/

Link to purchase tickets: https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf101/eventticket.py
More information regarding the social event:
https://ietf.org/how/meetings/101/social/

At the IETF 101 social event you will explore three galleries
at the Science Museum; the Energy Hall, Exploring Space, and
Making the Modern World. Join us to see a full size replica of
the Eagle, the lander that took astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin
to the Moon in 1969, as well as the Apollo 10 command module,
Stephenson’s Rocket, Babbage’s Difference Engine No. 1, Crick and
Watson’s DNA model and the first Apple computer! Transportation
by bus will be provided. Approximate travel time to the Science
Museum is 15 minutes.

Don’t forget about these other exciting events at IETF 101!

1. Code Sprint	

The IETF 101 Code Sprint in London will, as
always, let you work on fixing those things about the datatracker
which you most urgently desire to do something about.

	When: Saturday, March 17 from 09:30 to 18:00
	Where: Hilton London Metropole, Rooms Cadogan and Berkeley
	Signup: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/IETF101SprintSignUp
	More information: https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/IETF101Sprint

2. Hackathon
	
The IETF 101 Hackathon will encourage developers to discuss,
collaborate and develop utilities, ideas, sample code and
solutions that show practical implementations of IETF standards.

	When: Saturday March 17 and Sunday March 18
	Where: Hilton London Metropole, Sovereign Room
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	More information: https://ietf.org/how/runningcode/hackathons/101-hackathon/
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	The Hackathon is free to attend and open to all. Extend
	the invitation to colleagues outside the IETF!

	Descriptions and information regarding the technologies
	for the hackathon are located on the IETF 101 Meeting Wiki:
	https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/101hackathon

	Don’t see anything that interests you? Feel free to add
	your preferred technology to the list, sign up as its
	Champion and show up to work on it. Note: you must login to
	the wiki to add content. If you do add a new technology, we
	strongly suggest that you send an email to hackathon@ietf.org
	to let others know. You may generate interest in your
	technology, and find other people who want to contribute to
	it.

3. Code Lounge
	All attendees now have the opportunity to schedule time in
	the Code Lounge to continue to work on hackathon and other coding
	projects during the week of IETF 101:
	https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/101codelounge

	The Code Lounge is a portion of the IETF Lounge set aside for
	groups to meet informally to brainstorm, code and otherwise test
	out their ideas. We hope that you give it a try, and we look
	forward to hearing any suggestions on how it can be improved.


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Is anyone planning to swap PGP and identity at IETF?

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I do.

| Artyom Gavrichenkov
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Sure.  Where and when are meeting to do this?

> On Mar 6, 2018, at 16:51, Artyom Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com> =
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> | mailto: ximaera@gmail.com
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> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:43 AM, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> =
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>>=20
>> -G
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Thanks,
Bret
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Did you see the subject line?

 "are any of the usual suspects running a PGP keysigning in London?"

Unless and until "the usual suspects" respond, the questions are moot:
I am not organizing a full on big lumber exchange. I'll happily be in
the bar at an agreed time, if nobody in the usual set of
organizationally minded people steps up.

-G

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Bret Jordan <jordan2175@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure.  Where and when are meeting to do this?
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> On Mar 6, 2018, at 16:51, Artyom Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I do.
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> | Artyom Gavrichenkov
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> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:43 AM, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote:
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> Is anyone planning to swap PGP and identity at IETF?
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> -G
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George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote:
    > Unless and until "the usual suspects" respond, the questions are moot:
    > I am not organizing a full on big lumber exchange. I'll happily be in
    > the bar at an agreed time, if nobody in the usual set of
    > organizationally minded people steps up.

ditto.

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I shall also be happy to be in the bar at the preagreed time and keysign.

Ian Dickinson

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    > I am not organizing a full on big lumber exchange. I'll happily be in
    > the bar at an agreed time, if nobody in the usual set of
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ditto.

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Hi guys,=20

I am also interested but I have not (yet) my PGP key. Could you show me =
how to obtain one?=20
Then, I will happily join to you in a bar :)=20


Best!

  o
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> On 6 Mar 2018, at 21:17, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote:
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> Did you see the subject line?
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> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Bret Jordan <jordan2175@gmail.com> =
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>> I do.
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>> | Artyom Gavrichenkov
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>> | fb: ximaera
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>> | skype: xima_era
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It looks like the tickets are sold out for the Event on Tuesday night to th=
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If anybody changes their mind, I am looking for two tickets that I would bu=
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That was fast.  I missed out also.    Looking for one ticket.

Brian

On Mar 8, 2018, at 11:38 AM, Sanders, Conrad R <conrad.sanders@usbank.com<m=
ailto:conrad.sanders@usbank.com>> wrote:

It looks like the tickets are sold out for the Event on Tuesday night to th=
e Museum.

If anybody changes their mind, I am looking for two tickets that I would bu=
y from you.

Conrad Sanders
Mainframe Network Support
Energy Park
1200 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN   55108-5101
conrad.sanders@usbank.com<mailto:conrad.sanders@usbank.com>
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Hello All,

 

Please see below link to the bio profiles of the Fellows to IETF 101.

 

https://www.internetsociety.org/ietf-fellows/ietf-101/

 

I have also attached their profiles in .PDF format.

 

Regards,

 

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Niel Harper

Director, NGL & Fellowships

Internet Society

1775 Wiehle Avenue

Reston, VA 20190

Email: harper@isoc.org

Skype: OlokunBB

 

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<span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;bac=
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Yesterday, i did see a deduction of $35 from my credit card, but the
web-page hung trying to dsiplay the receipt and i also never received
an email receipt for the $35 payment. It did work for registration.

Wonder what's the right email to request a receipt for the social
payment and to make sure i am actually registered ? ietf-action ??

Cheers
    toerless

On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 04:43:14PM +0000, Rosen, Brian wrote:
> That was fast.  I missed out also.    Looking for one ticket.
> 
> Brian
> 
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 11:38 AM, Sanders, Conrad R <conrad.sanders@usbank.com<mailto:conrad.sanders@usbank.com>> wrote:
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> It looks like the tickets are sold out for the Event on Tuesday night to the Museum.
> 
> If anybody changes their mind, I am looking for two tickets that I would buy from you.
> 
> Conrad Sanders
> Mainframe Network Support
> Energy Park
> 1200 Energy Park Drive
> St. Paul, MN   55108-5101
> conrad.sanders@usbank.com<mailto:conrad.sanders@usbank.com>
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Toerless,

Please send any inquiries about the state of your meeting registration =
or social event registration to ietf-registrar@ietf.org.

Best regards,
Cindy

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>=20
> Yesterday, i did see a deduction of $35 from my credit card, but the
> web-page hung trying to dsiplay the receipt and i also never received
> an email receipt for the $35 payment. It did work for registration.
>=20
> Wonder what's the right email to request a receipt for the social
> payment and to make sure i am actually registered ? ietf-action ??
>=20
> Cheers
>    toerless
>=20
> On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 04:43:14PM +0000, Rosen, Brian wrote:
>> That was fast.  I missed out also.    Looking for one ticket.
>>=20
>> Brian
>>=20
>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 11:38 AM, Sanders, Conrad R =
<conrad.sanders@usbank.com<mailto:conrad.sanders@usbank.com>> wrote:
>>=20
>> It looks like the tickets are sold out for the Event on Tuesday night =
to the Museum.
>>=20
>> If anybody changes their mind, I am looking for two tickets that I =
would buy from you.
>>=20
>> Conrad Sanders
>> Mainframe Network Support
>> Energy Park
>> 1200 Energy Park Drive
>> St. Paul, MN   55108-5101
>> conrad.sanders@usbank.com<mailto:conrad.sanders@usbank.com>
>> (651) 962-1470
>>=20
>>=20
>> <image001.jpg>
>>=20
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I tried to buy a socket ticket a few days ago, but I've not received
any confirmation message (and if I retrieve my IETF registration, it
still has a link to purchasing social tickets) even if my credit card
was charged for $35.  Is it only me?  If not, does anyone know how I
can confirm the purchase?

Thanks.

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I received confirmation in an email titled "IETF 101 Social Event Receipt".=
 Is it possible that yours was classified as spam by your spam filter?

I also have a link to the social event in my registration info. It could ju=
st be that it's not updated when you've registered.

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No. Same issue on my side. Just discussing with ietf-registration@ietf.org.
Must have been some change in software or the like. My bank told me both
my 840 and 35 payments yesterday went through fine, and i did get the
usual email receipt for the 840 regstration, but none for the 35 social
ticket. The IETF folks tell me my payment is pending. My bank told me it went
through.

Cheers
    toerless

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> 
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> JINMEI, Tatuya
> 
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At Thu, 8 Mar 2018 20:18:49 +0100,
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:

> No. Same issue on my side. Just discussing with ietf-registration@ietf.org.
> Must have been some change in software or the like. My bank told me both
> my 840 and 35 payments yesterday went through fine, and i did get the
> usual email receipt for the 840 regstration, but none for the 35 social
> ticket. The IETF folks tell me my payment is pending. My bank told me it went
> through.

FYI: I've just received a unicast message (from a human) that confirms
my purchase.  Your case may be a different issue than mine as I wasn't
told about pending payment, but hopefully it's a matter of time for
you too.

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Same happened to me before IETF 99.
NB: if you haven't received the confirmation, treat it as you're not
registered. Be careful, sort it out ahead of the meeting.

(sorry Toerless, just forgot to "reply all" on this)

=D1=87=D1=82, 8 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80. 2018 =D0=B3., 14:19 Toerless Eckert <tt=
e@cs.fau.de>:

> No. Same issue on my side. Just discussing with ietf-registration@ietf.or=
g
> .
> Must have been some change in software or the like. My bank told me both
> my 840 and 35 payments yesterday went through fine, and i did get the
> usual email receipt for the 840 regstration, but none for the 35 social
> ticket. The IETF folks tell me my payment is pending. My bank told me it
> went
> through.
>
> Cheers
>     toerless
>
> On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 11:15:47AM -0800, ???????????? wrote:
> > I tried to buy a socket ticket a few days ago, but I've not received
> > any confirmation message (and if I retrieve my IETF registration, it
> > still has a link to purchasing social tickets) even if my credit card
> > was charged for $35.  Is it only me?  If not, does anyone know how I
> > can confirm the purchase?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > JINMEI, Tatuya
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 101attendees mailing list
> > 101attendees@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/101attendees
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Same happened to me before IETF 99.<br>NB: if you haven&#39;t received the =
confirmation, treat it as you&#39;re not registered. Be careful, sort it ou=
t ahead of the meeting.<div><br></div><div>(sorry Toerless, just forgot to =
&quot;reply all&quot; on this)<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">=D1=87=D1=82, 8 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80. 2018 =D0=B3., 14:19 Toerless E=
ckert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tte@cs.fau.de">tte@cs.fau.de</a>&gt;:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">No. Same issue on my side. Just discussing w=
ith <a href=3D"mailto:ietf-registration@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">ietf-re=
gistration@ietf.org</a>.<br>
Must have been some change in software or the like. My bank told me both<br=
>
my 840 and 35 payments yesterday went through fine, and i did get the<br>
usual email receipt for the 840 regstration, but none for the 35 social<br>
ticket. The IETF folks tell me my payment is pending. My bank told me it we=
nt<br>
through.<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 toerless<br>
<br>
On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 11:15:47AM -0800, ???????????? wrote:<br>
&gt; I tried to buy a socket ticket a few days ago, but I&#39;ve not receiv=
ed<br>
&gt; any confirmation message (and if I retrieve my IETF registration, it<b=
r>
&gt; still has a link to purchasing social tickets) even if my credit card<=
br>
&gt; was charged for $35.=C2=A0 Is it only me?=C2=A0 If not, does anyone kn=
ow how I<br>
&gt; can confirm the purchase?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; JINMEI, Tatuya<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; 101attendees mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:101attendees@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">101attendee=
s@ietf.org</a><br>
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noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/101atte=
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<a href=3D"mailto:101attendees@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">101attendees@iet=
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Hi Everyone!

There was an issue in the social ticket system that caused it to display that tickets were sold out. This has been corrected and sales are up and running again! Tickets are limited!

If you purchased a ticket and want to be sure it is reflected in the social ticket system, please check here: https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf101/socialattendees.py

If you believe that you purchased a social ticket and your name is not on the list in the link, please contact registrar@ietf.org

IETF 101
London, UK
March 17-23, 2018
Host: Google and ICANN

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IETF 101 Social Event

Date: Tuesday, 20 March, 2018
Time: 19:00 - 23:00
Cost: $35 USD per ticket, limit two per attendee. 
Hosted by: Google and ICANN
Location: Science Museum https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/

Link to purchase tickets: https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf101/eventticket.py
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https://ietf.org/how/meetings/101/social/

At the IETF 101 social event you will explore three galleries
at the Science Museum; the Energy Hall, Exploring Space, and
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the Eagle, the lander that took astronauts Armstrong and Aldrin
to the Moon in 1969, as well as the Apollo 10 command module,
Stephenson’s Rocket, Babbage’s Difference Engine No. 1, Crick and
Watson’s DNA model and the first Apple computer! Transportation
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Any opinions pro/con about the event site ? I am a big fan of most
of the old museums in London often really just the "old" part, especially
for the british museum, but i do not know this one at all.

Across IETTF and other conferences, my average grading of
science&technology museums around this planet has gone down though,
often because of the increasing age gap between myself and the prime
target audience these type of museums often focus on.  But also because
of repetitiveness of the exhibits (probably related).

So, any insights welcome.

Cheers
   Toerless

P.S.: To avoid conflict of interest: I will not
sell my social ticket to anyone who expresses downsides of the place
(especially because the exhibition is just one criteria for my ultimate
 decision)


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IETF 101, Hosted by Google and ICANN!

More information about IETF 101 here:  https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/101/
 
Thursday Speaker Series Topic — Rolling the DNS Root Key Based on Input from Many ICANN Communities

The DNS root key rollover is an excellent example of how ICANN takes input from a variety of different communities when it makes policies and even operational plans. The decision to roll the root key five years after the first key was installed was based on a very rough consensus in the technical community, with some participants strongly arguing for different policies. The method for performing the rollover was similarly contentious. ICANN, by its nature, has many different communities who have a say in every major initiative that ICANN takes. These communities include Internet standards bodies, operators, and users, as well as governments, business, and various companies who are particularly interested in the domain name market.

This talk walks through how ICANN got to where it is today with the root key rollover, including the currently-open public comment period for the plan to roll the root key on 11 October 2018.

Logistics:

        • Room: Balmoral
        • Date: Thursday, March 22, 2018
        • Time: 12:30 – 13:15
        • Lunch will NOT be provided.


Speaker Biography:

David Conrad, ICANN Chief Technology Officer
As the Chief Technology Officer of the Internet Corporation of Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), David Conrad is at the heart the organization’s mission to help maintain the security, resiliency and stability of the Internet’s system of unique identifiers that ICANN helps coordinate. Prior to being named CTO, Conrad held several different positions at ICANN, including Vice President of Infrastructure & Technology and General Manager of the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority. 

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In 2011, Conrad provided senior-level advice and technical input for CloudFlare, as a member of the organization’s technical staff.  Prior to that, Conrad was the Executive Director of the Internet Software Consortium during the development of the "BIND version 9" domain name server.  He was also the seventh employee at the Internet Initiative Japan Corporation in Tokyo, and has held a number of software and infrastructure research and development positions throughout his career.


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In article <20180308225339.GW15215@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> you write:
>Any opinions pro/con about the event site ? I am a big fan of most
>of the old museums in London often really just the "old" part, especially
>for the british museum, but i do not know this one at all.

It's OK as a science museum, not a great one.  If you're interested in
history of science and technology, some of their historical
collections are quite good.

Keep in mind that admission to the museum is free.  You're paying for
the refreshments.

R's,
John

PS: I already have my tickets.


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Yepp. Seems they downgraded it 15 years from a great museum for me to
an ok one, more focussed on kids. Probably still interesting to go just
for the museum. Seemingly most of the victorian era collection was moved out
unfortunately ;-(

Yeah, "free" had me doubt the quality of the museum first, but i totally
forgot that the UKs best museums are free too (was visiting the british again
last year).

CHeers
   Toerless

On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 07:36:36PM -0500, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
> In article <20180308225339.GW15215@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> you write:
> >Any opinions pro/con about the event site ? I am a big fan of most
> >of the old museums in London often really just the "old" part, especially
> >for the british museum, but i do not know this one at all.
> 
> It's OK as a science museum, not a great one.  If you're interested in
> history of science and technology, some of their historical
> collections are quite good.
> 
> Keep in mind that admission to the museum is free.  You're paying for
> the refreshments.
> 
> R's,
> John
> 
> PS: I already have my tickets.
> 
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What experiences have non-EU people, particularly US, had with
reclaiming the VAT on their conference fee?  Check my understanding,
please:

* VAT for services is not recoverable by individuals, but
* VAT for services is recoverable by businesses, and
* As a US citizen I'm also essentially a sole proprietor business, and
* The 140 USD tax exceeds the 16 GBP minimum necessary to claim.

True?  The part that has me most suspect is my hopeful claims of sole
proprietorship with regard to the form instructions that say the
following:

        The application must be accompanied by an original
        certificate of status issued by the official authority of
        the country in which you are established. This is to
        confirm that you are a business person in that country. 

For the form itself presumably it would be my US Social Security
Number going in as the Tax/Business registration number, and the
"name of the official authority" being "US Social Security
Administration".  An "original certificate of status" seems to be a
problem though; I'm surely not sending them my Social Security card.

Any guidance is appreciated, and maybe
https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/101/vat/ 
or the Wiki could address it a little more.




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You say you're "essentially" a sole proprietor. Are you, in fact, self-empl=
oyed? If so, do you have a business license from whatever your local govern=
ment is?

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What experiences have non-EU people, particularly US, had with
reclaiming the VAT on their conference fee?  Check my understanding,
please:

* VAT for services is not recoverable by individuals, but
* VAT for services is recoverable by businesses, and
* As a US citizen I'm also essentially a sole proprietor business, and
* The 140 USD tax exceeds the 16 GBP minimum necessary to claim.

True?  The part that has me most suspect is my hopeful claims of sole
proprietorship with regard to the form instructions that say the
following:

        The application must be accompanied by an original
        certificate of status issued by the official authority of
        the country in which you are established. This is to
        confirm that you are a business person in that country.

For the form itself presumably it would be my US Social Security
Number going in as the Tax/Business registration number, and the
"name of the official authority" being "US Social Security
Administration".  An "original certificate of status" seems to be a
problem though; I'm surely not sending them my Social Security card.

Any guidance is appreciated, and maybe
https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/101/vat/
or the Wiki could address it a little more.



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please:<br>
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* VAT for services is not recoverable by individuals, but<br>
* VAT for services is recoverable by businesses, and<br>
* As a US citizen I'm also essentially a sole proprietor business, and<br>
* The 140 USD tax exceeds the 16 GBP minimum necessary to claim.<br>
<br>
True?&nbsp; The part that has me most suspect is my hopeful claims of sole<=
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proprietorship with regard to the form instructions that say the<br>
following:<br>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; certificate of status issued by =
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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; the country in which you are est=
ablished. This is to<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; confirm that you are a business =
person in that country. <br>
<br>
For the form itself presumably it would be my US Social Security<br>
Number going in as the Tax/Business registration number, and the<br>
&quot;name of the official authority&quot; being &quot;US Social Security<b=
r>
Administration&quot;.&nbsp; An &quot;original certificate of status&quot; s=
eems to be a<br>
problem though; I'm surely not sending them my Social Security card.<br>
<br>
Any guidance is appreciated, and maybe<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/101/vat/">https://www.ietf.org=
/how/meetings/101/vat/</a>
<br>
or the Wiki could address it a little more.<br>
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Mike Bishop writes:
> You say you're "essentially" a sole proprietor. Are you, in fact,
> self-employed?  If so, do you have a business license from whatever
> your local government is?

Yes, I've certainly done consulting under my own name, and I needed no
business license to do that.  I am also not even currently employed by
any other business.


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In article <23201.63732.653294.557459@gro.dd.org> you write:
>What experiences have non-EU people, particularly US, had with
>reclaiming the VAT on their conference fee?  

tl;dr -- good luck with that

> Check my understanding, please:
>
>* VAT for services is not recoverable by individuals, but
>* VAT for services is recoverable by businesses, and
>* As a US citizen I'm also essentially a sole proprietor business, and
>* The 140 USD tax exceeds the 16 GBP minimum necessary to claim.
>
>True?  The part that has me most suspect is my hopeful claims of sole
>proprietorship with regard to the form instructions that say the
>following:
>
>        The application must be accompanied by an original
>        certificate of status issued by the official authority of
>        the country in which you are established. This is to
>        confirm that you are a business person in that country. 
>
>For the form itself presumably it would be my US Social Security
>Number going in as the Tax/Business registration number, and the
>"name of the official authority" being "US Social Security
>Administration".  An "original certificate of status" seems to be a
>problem though; I'm surely not sending them my Social Security card.

SSNs are issued to individuals, not businesses.  You can get an EIN on
the IRS web site, which might do the trick.  Or with your SSN and EIN
you can get a Mass.  resale license, which as I recall is free and
gives you a nice looking certificate.

I have all that junk in NY and a UK bank acount so I'll try it
and see what happens.

R's,
John


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While I suspect it's not vigorously enforced for small sole proprietors, my=
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t not have known it was needed.

Either way, I suspect such a license would greatly assist in the process of=
 convincing the UK you aren't just an individual. If they're cheaper than t=
he VAT, it might be worthwhile.

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Mike Bishop writes:
> You say you're "essentially" a sole proprietor. Are you, in fact,
> self-employed?  If so, do you have a business license from whatever
> your local government is?

Yes, I've certainly done consulting under my own name, and I needed no
business license to do that.  I am also not even currently employed by
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I have fond memories of the Science Museum it being a key factor in 
directing me to my future career.

However it has lost one of the greatest attractions from those years, a 
live demonstration of a 1MV arc.

It depends on what is on show, but last time I was there I found the 
analogue computer collection and antenna matching coil from the 
de-commissioned Rugby 16KHz transmitter interesting.

- Stewart


On 08/03/2018 22:53, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> Any opinions pro/con about the event site ? I am a big fan of most
> of the old museums in London often really just the "old" part, especially
> for the british museum, but i do not know this one at all.
>
> Across IETTF and other conferences, my average grading of
> science&technology museums around this planet has gone down though,
> often because of the increasing age gap between myself and the prime
> target audience these type of museums often focus on.  But also because
> of repetitiveness of the exhibits (probably related).
>
> So, any insights welcome.
>
> Cheers
>     Toerless
>
> P.S.: To avoid conflict of interest: I will not
> sell my social ticket to anyone who expresses downsides of the place
> (especially because the exhibition is just one criteria for my ultimate
>   decision)
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Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:

> Yepp. Seems they downgraded it 15 years from a great museum for me to
> an ok one, more focussed on kids. Probably still interesting to go just
> for the museum. Seemingly most of the victorian era collection was moved out
> unfortunately ;-(

One of the good recent additions is the Clockmakers collection, which
moved from the Worshipful Company of Clockmakers own musem in 2015.
https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/see-and-do/clockmakers-museum
http://www.clockmakers.org/the-clockmakers-museum-library/the-clockmakers-museum-library/
(though I think it is not in a part of the museum that is open for the social event)

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I really enjoy the Science Museum, a lot of hand on stuff, maybe child orie=
ntated but aren't we all children at heart :)

Yes its free to go into so not paying =A335 even if it does include transpo=
rt (London Underground people!!) and some drinks. I am sure there will be m=
ore social opportunities, both planned and adhoc

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Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:

> Yepp. Seems they downgraded it 15 years from a great museum for me to =

> an ok one, more focussed on kids. Probably still interesting to go =

> just for the museum. Seemingly most of the victorian era collection =

> was moved out unfortunately ;-(

One of the good recent additions is the Clockmakers collection, which moved=
 from the Worshipful Company of Clockmakers own musem in 2015.
https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/see-and-do/clockmakers-museum
http://www.clockmakers.org/the-clockmakers-museum-library/the-clockmakers-m=
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(though I think it is not in a part of the museum that is open for the soci=
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<!DOCTYPE html>
<html><head>
    <meta charset=3D"UTF-8">
</head><body><p><br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite">Il 9 marzo 2018 alle 13.4=
1 Jim Reid ha scritto:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 9 Mar 2018, at 1=
2:19, Goldsmith, Melissa L wrote:<br><br>so not paying &#163;35 even if it =
does include transport (London Underground people!!)</blockquote><br>Public=
 transport in London is horribly expensive. But not *that* expensive I hope=
. :-)</blockquote><p>&#163;2.40 each way if you pay by Oyster card or conta=
ctless credit card, &#163;4.90 if you buy a single paper ticket. &#163;1.50=
 (Oyster or card only) if you go by bus, though it will take much more time=
 (but sightseeing included if you go upstairs). If you travel a lot, Oyster=
/contactless offers automatic capping - they&#39;ll stop charging you once =
you reach the daily/weekly cap (e.g. &#163;6.80 daily for zones 1-2). So, u=
nless you plan to spend the whole week at the hotel or to always use taxis,=
 you should get/use a card.<br></p><p>Also note that you can use Oyster/con=
tactless to pay for your normal train from Gatwick or for the tube from Hea=
throw (not for the special express trains though).<br></p><p>Regards,</p><d=
iv class=3D"io-ox-signature"><p>-- <br class=3D""></p><pre class=3D"">Vitto=
rio Bertola | Head of Policy &#38; Innovation, Open-Xchange<br><a href=3D"m=
ailto:vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com">vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com<=
/a> <br>Office @ Via Treviso 12, 10144 Torino, Italy</pre></div></body></ht=
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Thanks, Vittorio, good recommendation/info, except for the useless HTML for=
matting (sob).

If you use TFL with paper tickets, you simply declare that  you want to be =
ripped off.

Only have an oyster card, have not tried NFC. Did they not also claim that =
NFC would also be supported via their app on NFC enabled phones ? Might be =
more useful for diagnostics too than trying NFC with non-UK credit cards ? =
Any insight welcome.

Btw: "horribly expensive" is for most of the community also a matter of exc=
hange rate. Compared to the past i would say that the UK people and governm=
ent are doing an excellent job to make travel in London more affordable to =
foreigners. I wouldn't have just gone to all the extreme to make this happe=
n, the american way to devalue currency is a lot more pleasurable (living o=
n credit vs. brexit). Ok, i'll stop the political bickering.

Cheers
    toerless

On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 01:56:53PM +0100, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> <!DOCTYPE html>
> <html><head>
>     <meta charset=3D"UTF-8">
> </head><body><p><br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite">Il 9 marzo 2018 alle 13=
=2E41 Jim Reid ha scritto:<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 9 Mar 2018, =
at 12:19, Goldsmith, Melissa L wrote:<br><br>so not paying &#163;35 even if=
 it does include transport (London Underground people!!)</blockquote><br>Pu=
blic transport in London is horribly expensive. But not *that* expensive I =
hope. :-)</blockquote><p>&#163;2.40 each way if you pay by Oyster card or c=
ontactless credit card, &#163;4.90 if you buy a single paper ticket. &#163;=
1.50 (Oyster or card only) if you go by bus, though it will take much more =
time (but sightseeing included if you go upstairs). If you travel a lot, Oy=
ster/contactless offers automatic capping - they&#39;ll stop charging you o=
nce you reach the daily/weekly cap (e.g. &#163;6.80 daily for zones 1-2). S=
o, unless you plan to spend the whole week at the hotel or to always use ta=
xis, you should get/use a card.<br></p><p>Also note that you can use Oyster=
/contactless to pay for your normal train from Gatwick or for the tube from=
 Heathrow (not for the special express trains though).<br></p><p>Regards,</=
p><div class=3D"io-ox-signature"><p>-- <br class=3D""></p><pre class=3D"">V=
ittorio Bertola | Head of Policy &#38; Innovation, Open-Xchange<br><a href=
=3D"mailto:vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com">vittorio.bertola@open-xchange=
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> On 9 Mar 2018, at 13:28, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
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> Btw: "horribly expensive" is for most of the community also a matter =
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I disagree. Though these things are of course relative. In my =
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In article <20180309132841.GF15215@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> you write:
>Only have an oyster card, have not tried NFC. Did they not also claim that NFC would also be supported via their app
>on NFC enabled phones ? Might be more useful for diagnostics too than trying NFC with non-UK credit cards ? Any insight welcome.

I have paid on the tube with a U.S. contactless AmEx card and it worked fine.

TfL says NFC devices should work, and I've never seen a payment
terminal that accepts contactless cards that didn't also work with NFC.

https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/contactless/what-are-contactless-payment-cards

R's,
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I always just use the metro from the airport.  It is not as fast as the spec=
ialized trains, but it not that bad either.  I find the metro costs to be ve=
ry reasonable in London, much more so than other major cities.

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e.g. =C2=A36.80 daily for zones 1-2). So, unless you plan to spend the whole=
 week at the hotel or to always use taxis, you should get/use a card.
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an hour away on the train, unless it breaks, is bletchley park.  if you
do not recognize the name, then don't bother.  it has been taken over by
crass commercialisation, and the old guard and docents thrown out, but
is still an historic inflection point.

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On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Livingood, Jason <
Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> wrote:

> On 3/9/18, 12:36 AM, "101attendees on behalf of ietf@johnlevine.com" <
> 101attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of ietf@johnlevine.com> wrote:
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> >    Keep in mind that admission to the museum is free.  You're paying for
> the refreshments.
>
> Well, sort of. The museum isn't open after hours so the sponsoring is
> paying for private access and all the associated staffing time. In my
> experience, London is not an inexpensive city so I'd imaging that the cost
> of the food and beverage, labor, and event space is far, far in excess of
> the cost charged to IETF attendees.


Agreed - as far as I'm aware, that is always the case for the Social.

Regards,
Alia



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On 09/03/2018 21:34, Brett Carr wrote:
> Hi,
>   
>
> On 09/03/2018, 20:02, "101attendees on behalf of Randy Bush" <101attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of randy@psg.com> wrote:
>
>>     an hour away on the train, unless it breaks, is bletchley park.  if you
>>     do not recognize the name, then don't bother.  it has been taken over by
>>     crass commercialisation, and the old guard and docents thrown out, but
>>     is still an historic inflection point.
> There are some pretty cool (and large) old computers there as well.
>
> Brett
>

Technically the computers are on different, but adjacent site.

- Stewart


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I would be surprised if the museum itself was any cheaper than any
other "private" museum. Its free for the public because its tax
funded. There would be no good reason to tax fund private events.

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> > >    Keep in mind that admission to the museum is free.  You're paying for
> > the refreshments.
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> > Well, sort of. The museum isn't open after hours so the sponsoring is
> > paying for private access and all the associated staffing time. In my
> > experience, London is not an inexpensive city so I'd imaging that the cost
> > of the food and beverage, labor, and event space is far, far in excess of
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> Agreed - as far as I'm aware, that is always the case for the Social.
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Sounds like a cool idea. If anyone wants to go three, let me know,
not quite sure about my whole schedule, but that might be a nice trip.

Do they allow Germans in ? Only when they bring some crypto machinery ? ;-))

Cheers
   toerless

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> >On 09/03/2018, 20:02, "101attendees on behalf of Randy Bush" <101attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of randy@psg.com> wrote:
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> >>    an hour away on the train, unless it breaks, is bletchley park.  if you
> >>    do not recognize the name, then don't bother.  it has been taken over by
> >>    crass commercialisation, and the old guard and docents thrown out, but
> >>    is still an historic inflection point.
> >There are some pretty cool (and large) old computers there as well.
> >
> >Brett
> >
> 
> Technically the computers are on different, but adjacent site.
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When i go to the city, connecting via pddington doesn't save
a lot of time anyhow, so the train can even be more comfortable
(changing in paddington is not always ideal).

Going to paddington directly, heathrow express is quite nice
but something like triple the price ? I would primarily recommend
it if you have heavy luggage, because using any other option you will
have to carry your luggage up/down stairs, with heathrow
express if i remember correctly, you don't -  elevators
in heathrow, ground floor in paddington.

Cheers
    Toerless

On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 12:21:52PM -0700, Bret Jordan wrote:
> I always just use the metro from the airport.  It is not as fast as the specialized trains, but it not that bad either.  I find the metro costs to be very reasonable in London, much more so than other major cities.
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> > On Mar 9, 2018, at 5:56 AM, Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> Il 9 marzo 2018 alle 13.41 Jim Reid ha scritto:
> >> 
> >>> On 9 Mar 2018, at 12:19, Goldsmith, Melissa L wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> so not paying £35 even if it does include transport (London Underground people!!)
> >> 
> >> Public transport in London is horribly expensive. But not *that* expensive I hope. :-)
> > £2.40 each way if you pay by Oyster card or contactless credit card, £4.90 if you buy a single paper ticket. £1.50 (Oyster or card only) if you go by bus, though it will take much more time (but sightseeing included if you go upstairs). If you travel a lot, Oyster/contactless offers automatic capping - they'll stop charging you once you reach the daily/weekly cap (e.g. £6.80 daily for zones 1-2). So, unless you plan to spend the whole week at the hotel or to always use taxis, you should get/use a card.
> > 
> > Also note that you can use Oyster/contactless to pay for your normal train from Gatwick or for the tube from Heathrow (not for the special express trains though).
> > 
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Thanks. I tried to read up on all those TFL
options yesterday as well and it seems as if you must
use one of those big-vendor NFC apps if you want
to use your phones NFC chip to pay TFL (google, apple
samsung, barclay). Was somewhat surprised that there
is no option for their own TFL app to use the NFC
chip. 

I don't know the NFC protocol stacks, but i guess
there is no well defined demux layer that would allow
to select one payment app from multiple simultaneously running
ones ?

    Toerless

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> In article <20180309132841.GF15215@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> you write:
> >Only have an oyster card, have not tried NFC. Did they not also claim that NFC would also be supported via their app
> >on NFC enabled phones ? Might be more useful for diagnostics too than trying NFC with non-UK credit cards ? Any insight welcome.
> 
> I have paid on the tube with a U.S. contactless AmEx card and it worked fine.
> 
> TfL says NFC devices should work, and I've never seen a payment
> terminal that accepts contactless cards that didn't also work with NFC.
> 
> https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/contactless/what-are-contactless-payment-cards
> 
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> Thanks. I tried to read up on all those TFL options yesterday as well 
> and it seems as if you must use one of those big-vendor NFC apps if you 
> want to use your phones NFC chip to pay TFL (google, apple samsung, 
> barclay). Was somewhat surprised that there is no option for their own 
> TFL app to use the NFC chip.

There's no benefit to them from adding their own card to to their own app. 
Google and Apple are doing this because they can insert themselves between 
the card issuer and the merchant, banks do it to try to upsell you.  If 
you don't have a contactless credit/debit card, you can get an Oyster card 
from vending machines at any tube station.


> I don't know the NFC protocol stacks, but i guess there is no well 
> defined demux layer that would allow to select one payment app from 
> multiple simultaneously running ones ?

My Android phone has a setup menu to pick the preferred NFC app but in my 
experience the apps don't pay much attention to it.

R's,
John


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Yes, the National Museum of Computing (TMNOC) is colocated with Bletchley P=
ark and is an excellent place.
Opening hours are limited and it's worth ringing them up prior to planning =
a trip to ensure they will be open.
(I believe this was done as a (perhaps semi) organised activity at the last=
 London IETF)
>From http://www.tnmoc.org/visit/opening-times
"The Colossus Galleries are open daily from 10.30am to 5pm. The full museum=
 is open every Thursday, Saturday and Sunday afternoon from 12pm to 5pm."
So it might not fit unless you have a whole free day, or you will be here f=
or longer at either end of the main week.

Ian

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On 09/03/2018 21:34, Brett Carr wrote:
> Hi,
>  =20
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> On 09/03/2018, 20:02, "101attendees on behalf of Randy Bush" <101attendee=
s-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of randy@psg.com> wrote:
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>>     an hour away on the train, unless it breaks, is bletchley park.  if =
you
>>     do not recognize the name, then don't bother.  it has been taken ove=
r by
>>     crass commercialisation, and the old guard and docents thrown out, b=
ut
>>     is still an historic inflection point.
> There are some pretty cool (and large) old computers there as well.
>
> Brett
>

Technically the computers are on different, but adjacent site.

- Stewart

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Subject: Re: [101attendees] bletchley park<BR>
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On 09/03/2018 21:34, Brett Carr wrote:<BR>
&gt; Hi,<BR>
&gt;   <BR>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; On 09/03/2018, 20:02, &quot;101attendees on behalf of Randy Bush&quot;=
 &lt;101attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of randy@psg.com&gt; wrote:<BR=
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&gt; There are some pretty cool (and large) old computers there as well.<BR=
>
&gt;<BR>
&gt; Brett<BR>
&gt;<BR>
<BR>
Technically the computers are on different, but adjacent site.<BR>
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On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 05:33:16PM -0500, John R. Levine wrote:
> Google and Apple are doing this because they can insert
> themselves between the card issuer and the merchant, banks do it to
> try to upsell you.

Sure, i understand that business model.

> There's no benefit to them from adding their own card to to their
> own app. If you don't have a contactless credit/debit
> card, you can get an Oyster card from vending machines at any tube
> station.

Well, there would be customer convenience. You can loose/misplace
oyster cards (i'd forgotten mine in my other place), and as soon
as you have multiple NFC cards in your wallet they become
inconvenient to handle. And given how you can charge up your oyster
account, it would also help TLF - interest on charge amounts,
getting middle men like google/apple/.. out of the picture (if those
options cost the customer the same, TFL will get less).

> >I don't know the NFC protocol stacks, but i guess there is no well
> >defined demux layer that would allow to select one payment app
> >from multiple simultaneously running ones ?
> 
> My Android phone has a setup menu to pick the preferred NFC app but
> in my experience the apps don't pay much attention to it.

Right. I remember that option. but it would not help to enable
auto-payment with 10 different apps, one each for each vendor,
e.g.: your TLF, then you pret-a-manger and on the way home
your salesbury account. Doesn't mean it would technically
not be feasible, maybe you can get an ID of the payment terminal
to then select the card. But if that was technically possible,
it wouldn't be in google/apple's interest because it would create
more competition.

Cheers
    Toerless

> R's,
> John

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Dave Lawrence <tale@dd.org> wrote:
    > Mike Bishop writes:
    >> You say you're "essentially" a sole proprietor. Are you, in fact,
    >> self-employed?  If so, do you have a business license from whatever
    >> your local government is?

    > Yes, I've certainly done consulting under my own name, and I needed no
    > business license to do that.  I am also not even currently employed by
    > any other business.

Assuming it's possible to recover (I don't think it is because the event is
occuring there), you'd have to have a tax code in your jurisdiction that said
that you collected sales taxes.

I'm incorporated, I do Canadian HST (VAT), etc. and my previous reading of
the exemption said that I could only claim for things that were being
delivered to me outside the UK/EU.

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Ian, all:
      You are right. I was one of the visitors of the TMNOC during IETF89.
For me, it was a great experience, and for those who preciate those pieces
of technology which made a difference, it is surely worth it.
     If my schedule permits, I would repeat that visit too.
      Regards,

                   Diego

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> Yes, the National Museum of Computing (TMNOC) is colocated with Bletchley
> Park and is an excellent place.
> Opening hours are limited and it's worth ringing them up prior to planning
> a trip to ensure they will be open.
> (I believe this was done as a (perhaps semi) organised activity at the
> last London IETF)
> >From http://www.tnmoc.org/visit/opening-times
> "The Colossus Galleries are open daily from 10.30am to 5pm. The full
> museum is open every Thursday, Saturday and Sunday afternoon from 12pm to
> 5pm."
> So it might not fit unless you have a whole free day, or you will be here
> for longer at either end of the main week.
>
> Ian
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 101attendees <101attendees-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Stewart
> Bryant
> Sent: 09 March 2018 21:51
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> On 09/03/2018 21:34, Brett Carr wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > On 09/03/2018, 20:02, "101attendees on behalf of Randy Bush" <
> 101attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of randy@psg.com> wrote:
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> >> an hour away on the train, unless it breaks, is bletchley park. if you
> >> do not recognize the name, then don't bother. it has been taken over by
> >> crass commercialisation, and the old guard and docents thrown out, but
> >> is still an historic inflection point.
> > There are some pretty cool (and large) old computers there as well.
> >
> > Brett
> >
>
> Technically the computers are on different, but adjacent site.
>
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Ian, all:<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 You are right. I was one of the visitors=
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Museum of Computing (TMNOC) is colocated with Bletchley Park and is an exce=
llent place.<br>
Opening hours are limited and it&#39;s worth ringing them up prior to plann=
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&gt;From <a href=3D"http://www.tnmoc.org/visit/opening-times" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.tnmoc.org/visit/<wbr>opening-times</a><br>
&quot;The Colossus Galleries are open daily from 10.30am to 5pm. The full m=
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m.&quot;<br>
So it might not fit unless you have a whole free day, or you will be here f=
or longer at either end of the main week.<br>
<br>
Ian<br>
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On 09/03/2018 21:34, Brett Carr wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;   <br>
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&gt; On 09/03/2018, 20:02, &quot;101attendees on behalf of Randy Bush&quot;=
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&gt;&gt;     an hour away on the train, unless it breaks, is bletchley park=
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&gt;&gt;     crass commercialisation, and the old guard and docents thrown =
out, but<br>
&gt;&gt;     is still an historic inflection point.<br>
&gt; There are some pretty cool (and large) old computers there as well.<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Brett<br>
&gt;<br>
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Technically the computers are on different, but adjacent site.<br>
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i, and i believe geoff huston, went during the 2001 london meeting.  it
was pretty special.

> For me, it was a great experience, and for those who preciate those
> pieces of technology which made a difference, it is surely worth it.

the people from london who wear shiny shoes threw all the folk who
actually worked there out when they converted it to disneyland.  the
docents who actually decrypted during the war were pushed out.  the
hackers working on the machines were pushed out.  see, for example,
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/02/03/bletchley_park_spat_halts_work_on_lorenz_sz42/

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In article <20180309221841.GK15215@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> you write:
>When i go to the city, connecting via pddington doesn't save
>a lot of time anyhow, so the train can even be more comfortable
>(changing in paddington is not always ideal).

If you don't have a lot of luggage, Paddington to the Metropole is
easily walkable.  For people who plan ahead, the Heathrow Express to
Paddington is not expensive -- a weekend ticket is £5.50 if you buy it
90 days in advance.

If you take the underground from the airport, you can avoid most steps
if you change for the Circle line at South Kensington rather than the
District line at Earl's Court.

R's,
John


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> On 10 Mar 2018, at 05:24, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
>=20
> the Heathrow Express to Paddington is not expensive -- a weekend =
ticket is =EF=BF=BD5.50 if you buy it 90 days in advance.

With just 7 days remaining until IETF101 starts, this is good to know. =
:-)

Anyone here with a time machine planning to travel back to xmas and =
place a bulk order for these tickets? :-)


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> On 10 Mar 2018, at 13:06, Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:
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> The key thing is not to get out of the arrivals lounge and jump in a =
taxi to the hotel. That would be quite pricey...

Yes. Though if 3 or 4 people are travelling together a taxi between LHR =
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Hi,

I first went to Bletchley over ten years ago, with some systems & network f=
riends. At the time, all the huts were in a state of disrepair, having deca=
yed over the years from their original wartime state some 60 years before. =
 When we arrived, we looked around for someone who might do a tour, and to =
say we lucked out would be an understatement. An elderly chap started talki=
ng to us, and offered to show us around. The tour took about 4 hours, as it=
 turned out he worked at Bletchley during the war, and he was so happy to c=
hat to people with an interest in computing and cryptography.  A simply ama=
zing day out, with an amazing man.

There has sadly since a falling out between the Bletchley site and the muse=
um, with the result that both are now run separately, and you enter them se=
parately with an admissions fee for each.  They're both still very much wor=
th seeing, but for me it's a shame that things have split in this way. =20

Returning to Bletchley two years ago, we found the result of the investment=
 in the site. I wouldn't really call it 'Disney', but I understand what Ran=
dy means - the huts are now all restored to their wartime state, and the ro=
oms kitted out with equipment of the time, with a merchandise shop, and new=
 restaurant. You can still book a tour, but it's not the same as what we ha=
d the first time, as the guides are not the same, but it's still interestin=
g.

So I'd say it's well worth a visit, if you can get out there. You can pre-b=
ook tickets to guarantee entry, but I don't think you can pre-book tours.
https://bletchleypark.org.uk

For the computing museum, entry and tours can be day-specific, so best to c=
heck the web site for details, and possibly email them:
http://www.tnmoc.org/
It looks like there's good availability in IETF week, and you can contact t=
hem to arrange tours:=20
http://www.tnmoc.org/visit/opening-times

If you want to check trains from Paddington to Bletchley station, which is =
very close to the site, see: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/. It's probably =
better to go to Bletchley via Euston Station, which is a little east, and a=
 short tube ride, from the IETF venue; it's about a 1 hour journey to get t=
here.

Oh, and there's an ongoing crowdfunding effort to keep (a reconstruction of=
) the bombe machine at Bletchley - feel free to donate!
http://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/new-display

Tim


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> On 10 Mar 2018, at 13:17, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
>=20
>> On 10 Mar 2018, at 13:06, Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:
>>=20
>> The key thing is not to get out of the arrivals lounge and jump in a tax=
i to the hotel. That would be quite pricey...
>=20
> Yes. Though if 3 or 4 people are travelling together a taxi between LHR a=
nd the hotel should work out cheaper than taking the Heathrow Express.

Maybe, but the taxi would also be as slow as the tube, I'd expect.

There's probably some good prices on taxis if you pre-book.

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>> the Heathrow Express to Paddington is not expensive -- a weekend ticket is £5.50 if you buy it 90 days in advance.
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> With just 7 days remaining until IETF101 starts, this is good to know. :-)
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> Anyone here with a time machine planning to travel back to xmas and place a bulk order for these tickets? :-)

Sure.  If you can travel back to Jan 1, you can get tickets for Hamilton, too.

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In article <6971B1C9-991F-4A83-A8E1-EABC5ABD3D53@jisc.ac.uk> you write:
>> Yes. Though if 3 or 4 people are travelling together a taxi between LHR and the hotel should work out cheaper than taking the Heathrow Express.

Anything is cheaper than the walk-up fares on the HeX.  It's
deliberately priced to be more expensive than anything but a taxi.
The reasonable HeX fares are reserved for us time travellers.

>Maybe, but the taxi would also be as slow as the tube, I'd expect.
>There's probably some good prices on taxis if you pre-book.

The tube takes a little under an hour, with one change.  A taxi takes
40 minutes with no traffic, but there's always traffic so it's a tossup
whether it'll be faster or slower.

The prebooking services I see are all in the range of £40 to £60 so I suppose
that's sort of competitive with a £3.10 tube ride if you have four people in
the car.

Another possibility is the Heathrow Connect, same route as HeX but
runs every half hour rather than every 15 mins and stops on the way so
it takes half an hour rather than 15 mins.  Walkup fare is £10.30
single, £20.70 return.  (No I don't know why a return is more
expensive than two singles.)

R's,
John


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Sat, 10 Mar. 2018 =D0=B3., 9:17 Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>:
> Though if 3 or 4 people are travelling together
> a taxi between LHR and the hotel should work
> out cheaper than taking the Heathrow Express.

- Assuming this;
- Given most of the attendees are probably going to arrive during a
short interval of time;
- Assuming also no one is really going to live too far from the IETF venue

-- is maybe anyone ready to share an information about their itinerary
towards London, so that everyone else could look that up to see if
there's a match?

Could easily work as a 50%-75% discount for a taxi at a price of a
very slight privacy breach, which is an usual tradeoff nowadays. I'm
personally in. We can do that via Google Spreadsheets, for example, to
avoid abusing this mailing list.

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> Sure.  If you can travel back to Jan 1, you can get tickets for
> Hamilton, too.

dunno about hamilton, but a HEX booking online says it can be used
within three months of the scheduled booking.  so you may be able to
book for june and use in march.  i did not bother to try.

randy, who dreads the metrohole


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Download www.ubercars

On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 at 15:25, Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:

> > On 10 Mar 2018, at 18:49, Artyom Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> >
> > Sat, 10 Mar. 2018 =D0=B3., 9:17 Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>:
> >> Though if 3 or 4 people are travelling together
> >> a taxi between LHR and the hotel should work
> >> out cheaper than taking the Heathrow Express.
> >
> > - Assuming this;
> > - Given most of the attendees are probably going to arrive during a
> > short interval of time;
> > - Assuming also no one is really going to live too far from the IETF
> venue
> >
> > -- is maybe anyone ready to share an information about their itinerary
> > towards London, so that everyone else could look that up to see if
> > there's a match?
>
> There is the meeting wiki:
> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/ietf101
>
> which has an arrival coordination section, or at least a pointer to one :=
)
>
> Tim
>
> > Could easily work as a 50%-75% discount for a taxi at a price of a
> > very slight privacy breach, which is an usual tradeoff nowadays. I'm
> > personally in. We can do that via Google Spreadsheets, for example, to
> > avoid abusing this mailing list.
> >
> > | Artyom Gavrichenkov
> > | gpg: 2deb 97b1 0a3c 151d b67f 1ee5 00e7 94bc 4d08 9191
> > | mailto: ximaera@gmail.com
> > | fb: ximaera
> > | telegram: xima_era
> > | skype: xima_era
> > | tel. no: +7 916 515 49 58
> >
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Download www.ubercars</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div>On Sat, 10 Mar 2018 at 15:25, Tim Chown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Ti=
m.Chown@jisc.ac.uk">Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex">&gt; On 10 Mar 2018, at 18:49, Artyom Gavrichenkov &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:ximaera@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ximaera@gmail.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sat, 10 Mar. 2018 =D0=B3., 9:17 Jim Reid &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jim@rfc=
1035.com" target=3D"_blank">jim@rfc1035.com</a>&gt;:<br>
&gt;&gt; Though if 3 or 4 people are travelling together<br>
&gt;&gt; a taxi between LHR and the hotel should work<br>
&gt;&gt; out cheaper than taking the Heathrow Express.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; - Assuming this;<br>
&gt; - Given most of the attendees are probably going to arrive during a<br=
>
&gt; short interval of time;<br>
&gt; - Assuming also no one is really going to live too far from the IETF v=
enue<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -- is maybe anyone ready to share an information about their itinerary=
<br>
&gt; towards London, so that everyone else could look that up to see if<br>
&gt; there&#39;s a match?<br>
<br>
There is the meeting wiki:<br>
<a href=3D"https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/ietf101" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/iet=
f101</a><br>
<br>
which has an arrival coordination section, or at least a pointer to one :)<=
br>
<br>
Tim<br>
<br>
&gt; Could easily work as a 50%-75% discount for a taxi at a price of a<br>
&gt; very slight privacy breach, which is an usual tradeoff nowadays. I&#39=
;m<br>
&gt; personally in. We can do that via Google Spreadsheets, for example, to=
<br>
&gt; avoid abusing this mailing list.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; | Artyom Gavrichenkov<br>
&gt; | gpg: 2deb 97b1 0a3c 151d b67f 1ee5 00e7 94bc 4d08 9191<br>
&gt; | mailto: <a href=3D"mailto:ximaera@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ximae=
ra@gmail.com</a><br>
&gt; | fb: ximaera<br>
&gt; | telegram: xima_era<br>
&gt; | skype: xima_era<br>
&gt; | tel. no: +7 916 515 49 58<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; 101attendees mailing list<br>
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> dunno about hamilton, but a HEX booking online says it can be used
> within three months of the scheduled booking.  so you may be able to
> book for june and use in march.  i did not bother to try.

HeX has a pricing structure that would make an airline proud.  If you buy 
a walkup ticket on the train or at the ticket window or from one of the 
touts in the lobby, it's £27 or £42 return.  If instead you ignore the 
tout and use your phone to buy an "express saver" ticket on their web site 
for today, its £25 peak, £22 off peak, or £37 return.

If you have a time machine, they're cheaper 14 days ahead, even cheaper 30 
days ahead, and much cheaper 90 days ahead.  All those tix are only valid 
for specific dates.

They also have a more expensive first class car for people who can't deal 
with the riff-raff for the 15 minute trip.  I suppose it would appeal to 
certain cabinet secretaries.

R's,
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In article <CAHR6so5M7FLUU_Y95yG8FrfBsq8Ot2Z-TNP55m55tveaBLBFnQ@mail.gmail.com> you write:

>Download www.ubercars

Keeping in mind that their license to operate in London was revoked
last fall for serious safety and security issues, and they're only
operating provisionally while they appeal.

https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2017/september/licensing-decision-on-uber-london-limited
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/business/uber-london.html

Transit haters might take a look at Gett (same company as Juno in the
US) which is a hailing service for licensed cabs.  I used it last
year, worked fine, prices seemed to be in the same ballpark as Uber.

Or, of course, one could do what most people do and take the tube.
Runs all the time, reliable, cheap, about the same time as a taxi and
faster than the bus.

R's,
John


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What about arriving from the train coming from Brussels. What would be the =
best way to reach the hotel?

On Mar 10, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:

>> On 10 Mar 2018, at 13:17, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 10 Mar 2018, at 13:06, Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> The key thing is not to get out of the arrivals lounge and jump in a ta=
xi to the hotel. That would be quite pricey...
>>=20
>> Yes. Though if 3 or 4 people are travelling together a taxi between LHR =
and the hotel should work out cheaper than taking the Heathrow Express.
>=20
> Maybe, but the taxi would also be as slow as the tube, I'd expect.
>=20
> There's probably some good prices on taxis if you pre-book.
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> On 10 Mar 2018, at 23:45, Da Silva, Saulo <Sdasilva@icao.int> wrote:
>=20
> What about arriving from the train coming from Brussels. What would be the=
 best way to reach the hotel?

Get the Circle (yellow) / Hammersmith & City (pink) line from St Pancras to E=
dgeware Road. The exit from the Underground is on Chapel St, and it=E2=80=99=
s a short walk (150m west) to the hotel.

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That=92s great, thank you.=20
As you can see I=92m new in London and to IETF.
Cheers.

> On Mar 10, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>> On 10 Mar 2018, at 23:45, Da Silva, Saulo <Sdasilva@icao.int> wrote:
>>=20
>> What about arriving from the train coming from Brussels. What would be t=
he best way to reach the hotel?
>=20
> Get the Circle (yellow) / Hammersmith & City (pink) line from St Pancras =
to Edgeware Road. The exit from the Underground is on Chapel St, and it=92s=
 a short walk (150m west) to the hotel.
>=20
> Tony.
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> On 10 Mar 2018, at 19:35, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>=20
> dunno about hamilton,

There=E2=80=99s no airport in/near Hamilton or direct trains to London. =
So it's a mystery why the closest town to where I live would be the =
arrival point for IETFers. You can=E2=80=99t *all* stay at my place. :-)

> but a HEX booking online says it can be used
> within three months of the scheduled booking.  so you may be able to
> book for june and use in march.

That=E2=80=99s bad advice. The Heathrow Express is full of goons who =
check everyone=E2=80=99s ticket pn board. You=E2=80=99ll pay even more =
if they decide your advance purchase ticket isn=E2=80=99t valid or has =
the wrong date or bought through the wrong web site. The only way to =
avoid the check is get on a train that=E2=80=99s so overcrowded the =
goons don=E2=80=99t have enough time to get through all the carriages =
before the train arrives.


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do i really need to turn my online HEX ticket into dead trees, or will
it work on an iFoo?

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I will reach heathrow at 4.30pm. Is there anybody with whom I can share the
ride?
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Afifa

On Mar 11, 2018 12:32 PM, <SApeitos@police.gov.cy> wrote:

> If anyone is arriving in Heathrow on Saturday night 2225 i can join him t=
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> In article <CAHR6so5M7FLUU_Y95yG8FrfBsq8Ot2Z-
> TNP55m55tveaBLBFnQ@mail.gmail.com> you write:
>
> >Download www.ubercars
>
> Keeping in mind that their license to operate in London was revoked
> last fall for serious safety and security issues, and they're only
> operating provisionally while they appeal.
>
> https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2017/
> september/licensing-decision-on-uber-london-limited
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/business/uber-london.html
>
> Transit haters might take a look at Gett (same company as Juno in the
> US) which is a hailing service for licensed cabs.  I used it last
> year, worked fine, prices seemed to be in the same ballpark as Uber.
>
> Or, of course, one could do what most people do and take the tube.
> Runs all the time, reliable, cheap, about the same time as a taxi and
> faster than the bus.
>
> R's,
> John
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<div dir=3D"auto">I will reach heathrow at 4.30pm. Is there anybody with wh=
om I can share the ride?<div dir=3D"auto">Regards</div><div dir=3D"auto">Af=
ifa</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
 Mar 11, 2018 12:32 PM,  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:SApeitos@police.gov.cy">SApe=
itos@police.gov.cy</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">If anyone is arriving in Heathrow on Saturday night 2225 i ca=
n join him to the hotel.<br>
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From: <a href=3D"mailto:ietf@johnlevine.com">ietf@johnlevine.com</a><br>
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Date: 03/10/2018 10:41PM<br>
Subject: Re: [101attendees] Heathrow ride not sharing (was Re: Getting ther=
e is 0.47 of the fun, or Social event site - opinions ?)<br>
<br>
In article &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:CAHR6so5M7FLUU_Y95yG8FrfBsq8Ot2Z-TNP55m55t=
veaBLBFnQ@mail.gmail.com">CAHR6so5M7FLUU_<wbr>Y95yG8FrfBsq8Ot2Z-<wbr>TNP55m=
55tveaBLBFnQ@mail.gmail.<wbr>com</a>&gt; you write:<br>
<br>
&gt;Download www.ubercars<br>
<br>
Keeping in mind that their license to operate in London was revoked<br>
last fall for serious safety and security issues, and they&#39;re only<br>
operating provisionally while they appeal.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2017/september/=
licensing-decision-on-uber-london-limited" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/<wbr>media/press-releases/2017/<wbr>septem=
ber/licensing-decision-<wbr>on-uber-london-limited</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/business/uber-london.html" re=
l=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2017/<wbr>09/22/=
business/uber-london.<wbr>html</a><br>
<br>
Transit haters might take a look at Gett (same company as Juno in the<br>
US) which is a hailing service for licensed cabs.=C2=A0 I used it last<br>
year, worked fine, prices seemed to be in the same ballpark as Uber.<br>
<br>
Or, of course, one could do what most people do and take the tube.<br>
Runs all the time, reliable, cheap, about the same time as a taxi and<br>
faster than the bus.<br>
<br>
R&#39;s,<br>
John<br>
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That is a good idea. I am arriving at Heathrow sat around 10am.=20

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> Sat, 10 Mar. 2018 =D0=B3., 9:17 Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com>:
>> Though if 3 or 4 people are travelling together
>> a taxi between LHR and the hotel should work
>> out cheaper than taking the Heathrow Express.
>=20
> - Assuming this;
> - Given most of the attendees are probably going to arrive during a
> short interval of time;
> - Assuming also no one is really going to live too far from the IETF venue=

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> there's a match?
>=20
> Could easily work as a 50%-75% discount for a taxi at a price of a
> very slight privacy breach, which is an usual tradeoff nowadays. I'm
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On Sun, 11 Mar 2018, Afifa Abbas wrote:

> I will reach heathrow at 4.30pm. Is there anybody with whom I can share the
> ride?

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Add the ticket to Wallet on your iDevice. No tree killling needed.

You will nee the HEX app to do that.

Ole


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On Sun, 11 Mar 2018, Randy Bush wrote:

> do i really need to turn my online HEX ticket into dead trees, or will
> it work on an iFoo?
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In article <CD230F18-8D3C-4BF4-9B08-97C9D5624E5D@icao.int> you write:
>What about arriving from the train coming from Brussels. What would be the best way to reach the hotel?

The Underground.  From the Kings Cross/St Pancras station take the Circle
or Hammersmith+City line west to Edgware Road.

If you have a contactless credit card you can use that to pay for the
Underground.  Otherwise buy an Oyster card in the Underground station
that you can use for all bus and transit trips while in London.

R's,
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In article <m24lln6zwt.wl-randy@psg.com> you write:
>do i really need to turn my online HEX ticket into dead trees, or will
>it work on an iFoo?

It's worked fine on my unfancy Android phone.


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On 09/03/2018 22:13, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> Sounds like a cool idea. If anyone wants to go three, let me know,
> not quite sure about my whole schedule, but that might be a nice trip.
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> Do they allow Germans in ? Only when they bring some crypto machinery ? ;-))
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>> On 09/03/2018 21:34, Brett Carr wrote:
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>>> On 09/03/2018, 20:02, "101attendees on behalf of Randy Bush" <101attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of randy@psg.com> wrote:
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>>>>     an hour away on the train, unless it breaks, is bletchley park.  if you
>>>>     do not recognize the name, then don't bother.  it has been taken over by
>>>>     crass commercialisation, and the old guard and docents thrown out, but
>>>>     is still an historic inflection point.
>>> There are some pretty cool (and large) old computers there as well.
>>>
>>> Brett
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>> Technically the computers are on different, but adjacent site.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Toerless Eckert" <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 10:53 PM

> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 05:33:16PM -0500, John R. Levine wrote:
> > Google and Apple are doing this because they can insert
> > themselves between the card issuer and the merchant, banks do it to
> > try to upsell you.
>
> Sure, i understand that business model.
>
> > There's no benefit to them from adding their own card to to their
> > own app. If you don't have a contactless credit/debit
> > card, you can get an Oyster card from vending machines at any tube
> > station.
>
> Well, there would be customer convenience. You can loose/misplace
> oyster cards (i'd forgotten mine in my other place), and as soon
> as you have multiple NFC cards in your wallet they become
> inconvenient to handle. And given how you can charge up your oyster
> account,

How do you (re-)charge your Oyster card?
And can you find in advance how much is left on the card?
(I still have mine unused since the last London meeting)

Tom Petch


                    it would also help TLF - interest on charge amounts,
> getting middle men like google/apple/.. out of the picture (if those
> options cost the customer the same, TFL will get less).
>
> > >I don't know the NFC protocol stacks, but i guess there is no well
> > >defined demux layer that would allow to select one payment app
> > >from multiple simultaneously running ones ?
> >
> > My Android phone has a setup menu to pick the preferred NFC app but
> > in my experience the apps don't pay much attention to it.
>
> Right. I remember that option. but it would not help to enable
> auto-payment with 10 different apps, one each for each vendor,
> e.g.: your TLF, then you pret-a-manger and on the way home
> your salesbury account. Doesn't mean it would technically
> not be feasible, maybe you can get an ID of the payment terminal
> to then select the card. But if that was technically possible,
> it wouldn't be in google/apple's interest because it would create
> more competition.
>
> Cheers
>     Toerless
>
> > R's,
> > John
>
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> How do you (re-)charge your Oyster card?
All the stations including the airports have top-up machines that accept cash or card.

> And can you find in advance how much is left on the card?
You can register the newer ones online to see the balance, but if you have a super old card that might not work.

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On 11 Mar 2018, at 20:42, tom p. <daedulus@btconnect.com<mailto:daedulus@bt=
connect.com>> wrote:

How do you (re-)charge your Oyster card?
And can you find in advance how much is left on the card?
(I still have mine unused since the last London meeting)

Payment (re-charge) machines at every tube station,
same machine tells you how much is on the card before
you top it up.

Cheers,
--/Saleem


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Is anyone arriving in heathrow at 2225 on saturday night?=20
No problem meeting him there to go to the hotel !!!!

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> On 10 Mar 2018, at 22:40, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
>=20
> In article <CAHR6so5M7FLUU_Y95yG8FrfBsq8Ot2Z-TNP55m55tveaBLBFnQ@mail.gmail=
.com> you write:
>=20
>> Download www.ubercars
>=20
> Keeping in mind that their license to operate in London was revoked
> last fall for serious safety and security issues, and they're only
> operating provisionally while they appeal.
>=20
> https://tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2017/september/licensing-=
decision-on-uber-london-limited
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/business/uber-london.html
>=20
> Transit haters might take a look at Gett (same company as Juno in the
> US) which is a hailing service for licensed cabs.  I used it last
> year, worked fine, prices seemed to be in the same ballpark as Uber.
>=20
> Or, of course, one could do what most people do and take the tube.
> Runs all the time, reliable, cheap, about the same time as a taxi and
> faster than the bus.
>=20
> R's,
> John
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> How do you (re-)charge your Oyster card?

If you have a credit/debit card with a UK billing address you can top up 
on their web site, otherwise use a machine at a station.

> And can you find in advance how much is left on the card?
> (I still have mine unused since the last London meeting)

Register the card on their web site and it'll tell you, or the ticket 
machines will tell you.

R's,
John


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scientists/researchers may be interested that the annual AINTEC
conference, https://interlab.ait.ac.th/aintec2018/, will be held
immediately after the IETF meeting in bangkok in november.

this early warning is for those who might submit papers.

aintec 2017 was right after ietf/singapore and was pretty good.
https://interlab.ait.ac.th/aintec2017/

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    do i really need to turn my online HEX ticket into dead trees, or will
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I had the ticket emailed to me; my iFoo let me add it to wallet.

Kireeti.

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    do i really need to turn my online HEX ticket into dead trees, or will
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I had the ticket emailed to me; my iFoo let me add it to wallet.

Kireeti.

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    do i really need to turn my online HEX ticket into dead trees, or will
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I had the ticket emailed to me; my iFoo let me add it to wallet.

Kireeti.

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Side note:  While Google Pay ought to be the same as any other contactless =
card, the Underground terminals have consistently refused any card my phone=
 is able to present.  I wound up buying a physical Oyster card.

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nt site - opinions ?

In article <CD230F18-8D3C-4BF4-9B08-97C9D5624E5D@icao.int> you write:
>What about arriving from the train coming from Brussels. What would be the=
 best way to reach the hotel?

The Underground.  From the Kings Cross/St Pancras station take the Circle o=
r Hammersmith+City line west to Edgware Road.

If you have a contactless credit card you can use that to pay for the Under=
ground.  Otherwise buy an Oyster card in the Underground station that you c=
an use for all bus and transit trips while in London.

R's,
John

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A friend of mine, who visits the UK once a year, recently found
themselves with no cash.  What they did not know, and thinking about it,
how could they, was that since their last visit, the paper five and ten
pound notes have been replaced by plastic ones and the round, one pound
coin by 12-sided coins.

The coins are hard to tell apart and the obsolete ones may well appear
in your change, by accident or design.

You can, of course, change them at the Bank of England.

Tom Petch


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On 13/03/2018 11:41, tom p. wrote:
> A friend of mine, who visits the UK once a year, recently found
> themselves with no cash.  What they did not know, and thinking about it=
,
> how could they, was that since their last visit, the paper five and ten
> pound notes have been replaced by plastic ones and the round, one pound
> coin by 12-sided coins.
>=20
> The coins are hard to tell apart and the obsolete ones may well appear
> in your change, by accident or design.

The new =C2=A31 coins are *very* easy to tell apart from the old ones bec=
ause
they're bi-metallic.

No-one should be given them out in change.  I've never seen that happen
since the old ones stop being legal tender.

> You can, of course, change them at the Bank of England.

Other banks might take them, but are not obliged to.

Ray



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Thanks for the tip! I guess some pounds I have from 10 years ago may not 
be usable :(

Jordi


El 13/03/18 a les 12:54, Ray Bellis ha escrit:
> On 13/03/2018 11:41, tom p. wrote:
>> A friend of mine, who visits the UK once a year, recently found
>> themselves with no cash.  What they did not know, and thinking about it,
>> how could they, was that since their last visit, the paper five and ten
>> pound notes have been replaced by plastic ones and the round, one pound
>> coin by 12-sided coins.
>>
>> The coins are hard to tell apart and the obsolete ones may well appear
>> in your change, by accident or design.
> The new £1 coins are *very* easy to tell apart from the old ones because
> they're bi-metallic.
>
> No-one should be given them out in change.  I've never seen that happen
> since the old ones stop being legal tender.
>
>> You can, of course, change them at the Bank of England.
> Other banks might take them, but are not obliged to.
>
> Ray
>
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From: Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
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Here is the replacement procedure:

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-banknotes

I don't know of anyone who has ever done it so might be worth doing just 
to see if it works and to say you have been inside the BoE.

There are lots of museums and  monuments, near the Bank. This includes 
"The Monument" which is the place where the Great Fire of London started.

- Stewart


On 13/03/2018 12:15, Jordi Paillissé Vilanova wrote:
> Thanks for the tip! I guess some pounds I have from 10 years ago may 
> not be usable :(
>
> Jordi
>
>
> El 13/03/18 a les 12:54, Ray Bellis ha escrit:
>> On 13/03/2018 11:41, tom p. wrote:
>>> A friend of mine, who visits the UK once a year, recently found
>>> themselves with no cash.  What they did not know, and thinking about 
>>> it,
>>> how could they, was that since their last visit, the paper five and ten
>>> pound notes have been replaced by plastic ones and the round, one pound
>>> coin by 12-sided coins.
>>>
>>> The coins are hard to tell apart and the obsolete ones may well appear
>>> in your change, by accident or design.
>> The new £1 coins are *very* easy to tell apart from the old ones because
>> they're bi-metallic.
>>
>> No-one should be given them out in change.  I've never seen that happen
>> since the old ones stop being legal tender.
>>
>>> You can, of course, change them at the Bank of England.
>> Other banks might take them, but are not obliged to.
>>
>> Ray
>>
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Late to this, and I've not read through the rest of the thread, but:

I've taken luggage through the tube from Paddington to Heathrow. It
was not fun, and it was slow. There's quite a few steps and at least
one change.

I've also taken the Heathrow Express back with the same luggage. It
was fine, and a lot quicker.

The Heathrow Express is =C2=A337 return, if you didn't buy in advance,
making the cost difference about =C2=A325 to =C2=A330 (depending on how you=
're
paying).

On 13 March 2018 at 14:00, Robin Heydon <rheydon@qti.qualcomm.com> wrote:
> I think you meant to say "tube". "Underground" is also an appropriate ter=
m. We have no metros in London. Nearest metro is in Paris, which admittedly=
 is only a short(ish) train ride away.
>
> And yes, I have taken the metro to an airport from London, but I first ha=
d to pop on the Eurostar to Paris and then the RER from Gare de Nord to the=
 airport. So even then it would be debatable if that was really using the P=
aris metro.
>
> BR,
>
>         - Robin
>
> On 3/9/18, 7:22 PM, "101attendees on behalf of Bret Jordan" <101attendees=
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>
>     I always just use the metro from the airport.  It is not as fast as t=
he specialized trains, but it not that bad either.  I find the metro costs =
to be very reasonable in London, much more so than other major cities.
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I see to exchange my coins I would have to contact the Royal Mint. I wonder
if I can just show up on their doorstep with a couple of old coins.

Stig


On Mar 13, 2018 07:39, "Tim Chown" <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:

> I have changed old notes and old coins (which shopkeepers have kindly
> 'slipped' me!) just fine in a normal bank.
>
> But turning up to the Bank of England to try that would I guess be an
> adventure...
>
> Tim
>
> > On 13 Mar 2018, at 12:44, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Here is the replacement procedure:
> >
> > https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-banknotes
> >
> > I don't know of anyone who has ever done it so might be worth doing jus=
t
> to see if it works and to say you have been inside the BoE.
> >
> > There are lots of museums and  monuments, near the Bank. This includes
> "The Monument" which is the place where the Great Fire of London started.
> >
> > - Stewart
> >
> >
> > On 13/03/2018 12:15, Jordi Pailliss=C3=A9 Vilanova wrote:
> >> Thanks for the tip! I guess some pounds I have from 10 years ago may
> not be usable :(
> >>
> >> Jordi
> >>
> >>
> >> El 13/03/18 a les 12:54, Ray Bellis ha escrit:
> >>> On 13/03/2018 11:41, tom p. wrote:
> >>>> A friend of mine, who visits the UK once a year, recently found
> >>>> themselves with no cash.  What they did not know, and thinking about
> it,
> >>>> how could they, was that since their last visit, the paper five and
> ten
> >>>> pound notes have been replaced by plastic ones and the round, one
> pound
> >>>> coin by 12-sided coins.
> >>>>
> >>>> The coins are hard to tell apart and the obsolete ones may well appe=
ar
> >>>> in your change, by accident or design.
> >>> The new =C2=A31 coins are *very* easy to tell apart from the old ones
> because
> >>> they're bi-metallic.
> >>>
> >>> No-one should be given them out in change.  I've never seen that happ=
en
> >>> since the old ones stop being legal tender.
> >>>
> >>>> You can, of course, change them at the Bank of England.
> >>> Other banks might take them, but are not obliged to.
> >>>
> >>> Ray
> >>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I see to exchange my coins I would have to contact the Ro=
yal Mint. I wonder if I can just show up on their doorstep with a couple of=
 old coins.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Stig</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On Mar 13, 2018 07:39, &quot;Tim Chown&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk">Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attri=
bution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have changed old notes and old coi=
ns (which shopkeepers have kindly &#39;slipped&#39; me!) just fine in a nor=
mal bank.<br>
<br>
But turning up to the Bank of England to try that would I guess be an adven=
ture...<br>
<br>
Tim<br>
<br>
&gt; On 13 Mar 2018, at 12:44, Stewart Bryant &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:stewart=
.bryant@gmail.com">stewart.bryant@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Here is the replacement procedure:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-ba=
nknotes" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.bankofengland.co.=
<wbr>uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-<wbr>banknotes</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I don&#39;t know of anyone who has ever done it so might be worth doin=
g just to see if it works and to say you have been inside the BoE.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; There are lots of museums and=C2=A0 monuments, near the Bank. This inc=
ludes &quot;The Monument&quot; which is the place where the Great Fire of L=
ondon started.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; - Stewart<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 13/03/2018 12:15, Jordi Pailliss=C3=A9 Vilanova wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Thanks for the tip! I guess some pounds I have from 10 years ago m=
ay not be usable :(<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Jordi<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; El 13/03/18 a les 12:54, Ray Bellis ha escrit:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On 13/03/2018 11:41, tom p. wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; A friend of mine, who visits the UK once a year, recently =
found<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; themselves with no cash.=C2=A0 What they did not know, and=
 thinking about it,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; how could they, was that since their last visit, the paper=
 five and ten<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; pound notes have been replaced by plastic ones and the rou=
nd, one pound<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; coin by 12-sided coins.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The coins are hard to tell apart and the obsolete ones may=
 well appear<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in your change, by accident or design.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; The new =C2=A31 coins are *very* easy to tell apart from the o=
ld ones because<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; they&#39;re bi-metallic.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; No-one should be given them out in change.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve neve=
r seen that happen<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; since the old ones stop being legal tender.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; You can, of course, change them at the Bank of England.<br=
>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Other banks might take them, but are not obliged to.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Ray<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
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It says that you can on the BoE site. I have not idea where the mint is 
but I bet it is not on the BOE site.

BTW anyone interested in the invention of the bank note should read 
Newton and the Counterfeiter.

- Stewart


On 13/03/2018 14:47, Stig Venaas wrote:
> I see to exchange my coins I would have to contact the Royal Mint. I 
> wonder if I can just show up on their doorstep with a couple of old 
> coins.
>
> Stig
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2018 07:39, "Tim Chown" <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk 
> <mailto:Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     I have changed old notes and old coins (which shopkeepers have
>     kindly 'slipped' me!) just fine in a normal bank.
>
>     But turning up to the Bank of England to try that would I guess be
>     an adventure...
>
>     Tim
>
>     > On 13 Mar 2018, at 12:44, Stewart Bryant
>     <stewart.bryant@gmail.com <mailto:stewart.bryant@gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > Here is the replacement procedure:
>     >
>     >
>     https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-banknotes
>     <https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-banknotes>
>     >
>     > I don't know of anyone who has ever done it so might be worth
>     doing just to see if it works and to say you have been inside the BoE.
>     >
>     > There are lots of museums and  monuments, near the Bank. This
>     includes "The Monument" which is the place where the Great Fire of
>     London started.
>     >
>     > - Stewart
>     >
>     >
>     > On 13/03/2018 12:15, Jordi Paillissé Vilanova wrote:
>     >> Thanks for the tip! I guess some pounds I have from 10 years
>     ago may not be usable :(
>     >>
>     >> Jordi
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> El 13/03/18 a les 12:54, Ray Bellis ha escrit:
>     >>> On 13/03/2018 11:41, tom p. wrote:
>     >>>> A friend of mine, who visits the UK once a year, recently found
>     >>>> themselves with no cash.  What they did not know, and
>     thinking about it,
>     >>>> how could they, was that since their last visit, the paper
>     five and ten
>     >>>> pound notes have been replaced by plastic ones and the round,
>     one pound
>     >>>> coin by 12-sided coins.
>     >>>>
>     >>>> The coins are hard to tell apart and the obsolete ones may
>     well appear
>     >>>> in your change, by accident or design.
>     >>> The new £1 coins are *very* easy to tell apart from the old
>     ones because
>     >>> they're bi-metallic.
>     >>>
>     >>> No-one should be given them out in change. I've never seen
>     that happen
>     >>> since the old ones stop being legal tender.
>     >>>
>     >>>> You can, of course, change them at the Bank of England.
>     >>> Other banks might take them, but are not obliged to.
>     >>>
>     >>> Ray
>     >>>
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    <p>It says that you can on the BoE site. I have not idea where the
      mint is but I bet it is not on the BOE site.</p>
    <p>BTW anyone interested in the invention of the bank note should
      read Newton and the Counterfeiter.</p>
    <p>- Stewart<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/03/2018 14:47, Stig Venaas wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAHANBtJ29uOWqHy7jZ9kRuzag+2BMv4RFwHs5dTw+e7YUONiQQ@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="auto">I see to exchange my coins I would have to contact
        the Royal Mint. I wonder if I can just show up on their doorstep
        with a couple of old coins.
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">Stig</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 13, 2018 07:39, "Tim Chown" &lt;<a
            href="mailto:Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk" moz-do-not-send="true">Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br type="attribution">
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have
            changed old notes and old coins (which shopkeepers have
            kindly 'slipped' me!) just fine in a normal bank.<br>
            <br>
            But turning up to the Bank of England to try that would I
            guess be an adventure...<br>
            <br>
            Tim<br>
            <br>
            &gt; On 13 Mar 2018, at 12:44, Stewart Bryant &lt;<a
              href="mailto:stewart.bryant@gmail.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">stewart.bryant@gmail.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; Here is the replacement procedure:<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; <a
href="https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-banknotes"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.bankofengland.co.<wbr>uk/banknotes/exchanging-old-<wbr>banknotes</a><br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; I don't know of anyone who has ever done it so might be
            worth doing just to see if it works and to say you have been
            inside the BoE.<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; There are lots of museums and  monuments, near the
            Bank. This includes "The Monument" which is the place where
            the Great Fire of London started.<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; - Stewart<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; On 13/03/2018 12:15, Jordi Paillissé Vilanova wrote:<br>
            &gt;&gt; Thanks for the tip! I guess some pounds I have from
            10 years ago may not be usable :(<br>
            &gt;&gt;<br>
            &gt;&gt; Jordi<br>
            &gt;&gt;<br>
            &gt;&gt;<br>
            &gt;&gt; El 13/03/18 a les 12:54, Ray Bellis ha escrit:<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt; On 13/03/2018 11:41, tom p. wrote:<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; A friend of mine, who visits the UK once a
            year, recently found<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; themselves with no cash.  What they did not
            know, and thinking about it,<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; how could they, was that since their last
            visit, the paper five and ten<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; pound notes have been replaced by plastic
            ones and the round, one pound<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; coin by 12-sided coins.<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The coins are hard to tell apart and the
            obsolete ones may well appear<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in your change, by accident or design.<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt; The new £1 coins are *very* easy to tell apart
            from the old ones because<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt; they're bi-metallic.<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt; No-one should be given them out in change. 
            I've never seen that happen<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt; since the old ones stop being legal tender.<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; You can, of course, change them at the Bank
            of England.<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt; Other banks might take them, but are not
            obliged to.<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt; Ray<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
            &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
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> It says that you can on the BoE site. I have not idea where the mint=20
> is but I bet it is not on the BOE site.

The Royal Mint is in Llantrisant in South Wales (when I was a child=20
elsewhere in Wales, it was often referred to as =E2=80=98the hole with the=
=20
mint=E2=80=99, a play on the tagline for=20
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polo_(confectionery)>).

However, for those arriving by British Airways there will be a =E2=80=98Fly=
ing=20
Start=E2=80=99 donation envelope in the seat pocket.  Rather than go to the=
=20
hassle of exchanging the coins, you could donate them to charity, I=20
assume they=E2=80=99ll have a way to convert them to usable funds.

Rob

Jisc is a registered charity (number 1149740) and a company limited by guar=
antee which is registered in England under Company No. 5747339, VAT No. GB =
197 0632 86. Jisc=E2=80=99s registered office is: One Castlepark, Tower Hil=
l, Bristol, BS2 0JA. T 0203 697 5800.

Jisc Services Limited is a wholly owned Jisc subsidiary and a company limit=
ed by guarantee which is registered in England under company number 2881024=
, VAT number GB 197 0632 86. The registered office is: One Castle Park, Tow=
er Hill, Bristol BS2 0JA. T 0203 697 5800. =20


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The BoE site only talks about banknotes, not coins. I have a bi-metallic 
2-pound coin from 2007. Good or not?

FWIW, I thought I might give my no-longer-good 1-pound coins and 5-pound 
note to a homeless person, assuming it is worth their time to stand in 
line at a bank with them. Has this practice been discussed in England?

--Paul Hoffman


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> On 13 Mar 2018, at 15:31, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote:
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> The BoE site only talks about banknotes, not coins. I have a =
bi-metallic 2-pound coin from 2007. Good or not?

Good for cash transactions. Not good for your pocket because of the =
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> The BoE site only talks about banknotes, not coins. I have a
bi-metallic
> 2-pound coin from 2007. Good or not?

Yes, good, as are the 'copper' 1p and 2p and the 'silver' 5p, 10p, 20p,
50p and the paper 20 pound note.  The 5p and 10p were replaced with
steel ones a couple of years ago and although some machines jibbed at
first, they all seem ok with both now.  I do know a machine that is due
to be converted to take the new one pound coin tomorrow, only accepting
50p and two pound coins at present, but that is rare and unlikely to be
encountered.

Tom Petch

> FWIW, I thought I might give my no-longer-good 1-pound coins and
5-pound
> note to a homeless person, assuming it is worth their time to stand in
> line at a bank with them. Has this practice been discussed in England?


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FYI, Expedia.com offers HeX round trip for 51.30 USD, not refundable. 
One way ticket for each direction is 30.56 USD.

- Jarrett


On 03/ 9/18 04:41 AM, Jim Reid wrote:
>> On 9 Mar 2018, at 12:19, Goldsmith, Melissa L <melissa.goldsmith@usbank.com> wrote:
>>
>> so not paying £35 even if it does include transport (London Underground people!!)
> Public transport in London is horribly expensive. But not *that* expensive I hope. :-)
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Thanks Kevin.. this is noted

Alagie

On Wednesday, March 14, 2018, Kevin Chege <chege@isoc.org> wrote:

> Greetings everyone,
>
>
>
> There are various activities taking place in Africa to raise the awarenes=
s
> of the IETF and encourage more engineers from Africa to participate in th=
e
> work being done at the IETF. Last year, there were a few successes and
> there will be a 1 hour session that serves as both a meet and greet and
> idea sharing session for those interested in participating/helping/learni=
ng
> about the initiative.
>
>
>
> Here are the details:
>
>
>
> *Date:*     Wednesday 21st March 2018
>
> *Time:*     12:20PM to 1:20PM
>
> *Venue:*  Room 10-12: Hilton Metropole (IETF Venue)
>
>
>
> *Draft Agenda:*
>
>    - Introductions and background:  *5 mins*
>    - 2017 Case Study: Story from Addis Ababa University: *15 mins*
>    - 2018 Initiative Plans: 10 mins
>       - Plans for the Hackathon@AIS 2018 (http://hackathon.
>       internetsummitafrica.org )
>       - University engagement
>       - Other activities
>    - Q/A and discussion time - *25 mins*
>    - Wrap up =E2=80=93 5 mins
>
>
>
>
>
> The session is open to anyone. Attendees from Africa are highly encourage=
d
> to attend.
>
>
>
> If you would like to attend, kindly RSVP to tariku@isoc.org to help in
> managing seating.
>
>
>
> More information in the coming days
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
>
>
> Kevin G. Chege
>
> ISOC
>
>
>

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Thanks Kevin.. this is noted<div><br></div><div>Alagie<br><br>On Wednesday,=
 March 14, 2018, Kevin Chege &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:chege@isoc.org">chege@is=
oc.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Greetin=
gs everyone,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">There a=
re various activities taking place in Africa to raise the awareness of the =
IETF and encourage more engineers from Africa to participate in the work be=
ing done at the IETF.=C2=A0Last year, there
 were a few successes and there will be a 1 hour session that serves as bot=
h a meet and greet and idea sharing session for those interested in partici=
pating/helping/learning about the initiative. =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Here ar=
e the details:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Date=
:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 Wednesday 21<sup>st</sup> March 2018<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Time=
:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 12:20PM to 1:20PM<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Venu=
e:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">=C2=A0 Room 10-12=
: Hilton Metropole (IETF Venue)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Draf=
t Agenda:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0cm" type=3D"disc">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt">Introductions and background: =C2=A0<i>5 mins</i><u></u><u></u></span><=
/li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt">2017 Case Study: Story from Addis Ababa University:
<i>15 mins</i><u></u><u></u></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"co=
lor:black"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">2018 Initiative Plans: 10 mins<=
u></u><u></u></span>
<ul style=3D"margin-top:0cm" type=3D"circle">
<li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt">Plans for the Hackathon@AIS 2018 (<a href=3D"http://hackathon.internets=
ummitafrica.org" target=3D"_blank">http://hackathon.<wbr>internetsummitafri=
ca.org</a> )<u></u><u></u></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"colo=
r:black"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">University engagement<u></u><u></=
u></span></li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt">Other activities<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
</li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt">Q/A and discussion time -=C2=A0<i>25 mins</i><u></u><u></u></span>=
</li><li class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt">Wrap up =E2=80=93 5 mins=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></li></ul>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">The ses=
sion is open to anyone. Attendees from Africa are highly encouraged to atte=
nd.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">If you =
would like to attend, kindly RSVP to=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:tariku@isoc.org=
" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:#954f72">tariku@isoc.org</span></a=
> to help in managing seating.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">More in=
formation in the coming days=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Kind Re=
gards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Kevin G=
. Chege<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:black">ISOC<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
<p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>

</blockquote></div>

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Hi,

Since I will not be able to attend IETF 101 in person, does anyone want 
my Hilton reservation before it gets cancelled or moved? It is 3/17-24.

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The Met Office has issued a weather warning for Greater London for this =
weekend.

See, for example, the weather section on https://www.bbc.com where they =
say problems with travel are possible.

And yes it is a =E2=80=9Cyellow warning of snow=E2=80=9D and not a =
"warning of yellow snow=E2=80=9D which would of course be so very =
different!

;-)

Gordon


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On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:30:02PM +0100,
 Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote 
 a message of 9 lines which said:

> The Met Office has issued a weather warning for Greater London for this weekend.

"Travel delays on roads with some stranded vehicles and passengers,
along with delayed or cancelled rail and air travel is possible. Some
rural communities could become cut off and power cuts may occur. Some
injuries from slips and falls are possible on icy surfaces."

It seems quite dangerous to have an IETF in London. Let's meet in
Bogota or Kinshasa, where the risk of snow and ice is limited.



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Or maybe on Svalbard? There's no risk, just snow.

15 Mar. 2018 =D0=B3., 12:34 Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr>:

> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:30:02PM +0100,
>  Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote
>  a message of 9 lines which said:
>
> > The Met Office has issued a weather warning for Greater London for this
> weekend.
>
> "Travel delays on roads with some stranded vehicles and passengers,
> along with delayed or cancelled rail and air travel is possible. Some
> rural communities could become cut off and power cuts may occur. Some
> injuries from slips and falls are possible on icy surfaces."
>
> It seems quite dangerous to have an IETF in London. Let's meet in
> Bogota or Kinshasa, where the risk of snow and ice is limited.
>
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Or maybe on Svalbard? There&#39;s no risk, just snow.<br><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">15 Mar. 2018 =D0=B3., 12:34 Stephane Bortzmey=
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a>&gt;:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:=
30:02PM +0100,<br>
=C2=A0Gordon Lennox &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote<br>
=C2=A0a message of 9 lines which said:<br>
<br>
&gt; The Met Office has issued a weather warning for Greater London for thi=
s weekend.<br>
<br>
&quot;Travel delays on roads with some stranded vehicles and passengers,<br=
>
along with delayed or cancelled rail and air travel is possible. Some<br>
rural communities could become cut off and power cuts may occur. Some<br>
injuries from slips and falls are possible on icy surfaces.&quot;<br>
<br>
It seems quite dangerous to have an IETF in London. Let&#39;s meet in<br>
Bogota or Kinshasa, where the risk of snow and ice is limited.<br>
<br>
<br>
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The warning covers quite a large area. The precipitation percentages aren't
very high. This may not materialize. Though if it does snow/rain, the temps
are right around freezing hence the warning about slips and falls on icy
surfaces.

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Artyom Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Or maybe on Svalbard? There's no risk, just snow.
>
> 15 Mar. 2018 =D0=B3., 12:34 Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr>:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:30:02PM +0100,
>>  Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote
>>  a message of 9 lines which said:
>>
>> > The Met Office has issued a weather warning for Greater London for thi=
s
>> weekend.
>>
>> "Travel delays on roads with some stranded vehicles and passengers,
>> along with delayed or cancelled rail and air travel is possible. Some
>> rural communities could become cut off and power cuts may occur. Some
>> injuries from slips and falls are possible on icy surfaces."
>>
>> It seems quite dangerous to have an IETF in London. Let's meet in
>> Bogota or Kinshasa, where the risk of snow and ice is limited.
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The warning covers quite a large area. The precipitation p=
ercentages aren&#39;t very high. This may not materialize. Though if it doe=
s snow/rain, the temps are right around freezing hence the warning about sl=
ips and falls on icy surfaces.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Artyom Gavrichenk=
ov <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ximaera@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">ximaera@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">Or maybe on Svalbard? There&#39;s no risk, just snow.<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">15 Mar. 2018 =D0=B3., 12:34 Stephane Bort=
zmeyer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bortzmeyer%2Bietf@nic.fr" target=3D"_blank">bo=
rtzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr</a>&gt;:<br></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex">On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:30:02PM +0100,<br>
=C2=A0Gordon Lennox &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote<br>
=C2=A0a message of 9 lines which said:<br>
<br>
&gt; The Met Office has issued a weather warning for Greater London for thi=
s weekend.<br>
<br>
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>
along with delayed or cancelled rail and air travel is possible. Some<br>
rural communities could become cut off and power cuts may occur. Some<br>
injuries from slips and falls are possible on icy surfaces.&quot;<br>
<br>
It seems quite dangerous to have an IETF in London. Let&#39;s meet in<br>
Bogota or Kinshasa, where the risk of snow and ice is limited.<br>
<br>
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> On 15 Mar 2018, at 16:33, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr> wr=
ote:
>=20
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:30:02PM +0100,
> Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote=20
> a message of 9 lines which said:
>=20
>> The Met Office has issued a weather warning for Greater London for this =
weekend.
>=20
> "Travel delays on roads with some stranded vehicles and passengers,
> along with delayed or cancelled rail and air travel is possible. Some
> rural communities could become cut off and power cuts may occur. Some
> injuries from slips and falls are possible on icy surfaces."
>=20
> It seems quite dangerous to have an IETF in London. Let's meet in
> Bogota or Kinshasa, where the risk of snow and ice is limited.

The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all infrastructure to a=
 halt... :P

Today it's quite a mild spring day near London, sunny and very un-British w=
eather...

Tim


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I thought the chairs cancelled the ICE session... :)

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Subject: Re: [101attendees] Yellow warning of snow

> On 15 Mar 2018, at 16:33, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr> wr=
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> It seems quite dangerous to have an IETF in London. Let's meet in=20
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The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all infrastructure to a=
 halt... :P

Today it's quite a mild spring day near London, sunny and very un-British w=
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Tim

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I just want my plane from SFO tomorrow to take off to London and
get half way across the atlantic. The rest is details ;-)

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:52:52PM +0000, Tim Chown wrote:
> > On 15 Mar 2018, at 16:33, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr> wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:30:02PM +0100,
> > Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote 
> > a message of 9 lines which said:
> > 
> >> The Met Office has issued a weather warning for Greater London for this weekend.
> > 
> > "Travel delays on roads with some stranded vehicles and passengers,
> > along with delayed or cancelled rail and air travel is possible. Some
> > rural communities could become cut off and power cuts may occur. Some
> > injuries from slips and falls are possible on icy surfaces."
> > 
> > It seems quite dangerous to have an IETF in London. Let's meet in
> > Bogota or Kinshasa, where the risk of snow and ice is limited.
> 
> The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all infrastructure to a halt... :P
> 
> Today it's quite a mild spring day near London, sunny and very un-British weather...
> 
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And what should people coming from NorthEast US say to this yellow =
warning =E2=80=A6 :)

> On Mar 15, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>=20
> I just want my plane from SFO tomorrow to take off to London and
> get half way across the atlantic. The rest is details ;-)
>=20
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:52:52PM +0000, Tim Chown wrote:
>>> On 15 Mar 2018, at 16:33, Stephane Bortzmeyer =
<bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:30:02PM +0100,
>>> Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote
>>> a message of 9 lines which said:
>>>=20
>>>> The Met Office has issued a weather warning for Greater London for =
this weekend.
>>>=20
>>> "Travel delays on roads with some stranded vehicles and passengers,
>>> along with delayed or cancelled rail and air travel is possible. =
Some
>>> rural communities could become cut off and power cuts may occur. =
Some
>>> injuries from slips and falls are possible on icy surfaces."
>>>=20
>>> It seems quite dangerous to have an IETF in London. Let's meet in
>>> Bogota or Kinshasa, where the risk of snow and ice is limited.
>>=20
>> The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all =
infrastructure to a halt... :P
>>=20
>> Today it's quite a mild spring day near London, sunny and very =
un-British weather...
>>=20
>> Tim
>>=20
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Potential takeoff problems due to local snow conditions ?

For just a "tiny" increase in the cost of living i could
recommend a pretty snow safe region called california.

Usually you folks up there are the most professionals dealing with
winter. In London and other parts of europe i sometimes have
the feeling the prevailing policy is "if i ignore it, it will
go away by itself". Which doesn't work that well for transportation.


On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 05:00:42PM +0000, Dean Bogdanovic wrote:
> And what should people coming from NorthEast US say to this yellow warning ??? :)
> 
> > On Mar 15, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> > 
> > I just want my plane from SFO tomorrow to take off to London and
> > get half way across the atlantic. The rest is details ;-)
> > 
> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:52:52PM +0000, Tim Chown wrote:
> >>> On 15 Mar 2018, at 16:33, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:30:02PM +0100,
> >>> Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote
> >>> a message of 9 lines which said:
> >>> 
> >>>> The Met Office has issued a weather warning for Greater London for this weekend.
> >>> 
> >>> "Travel delays on roads with some stranded vehicles and passengers,
> >>> along with delayed or cancelled rail and air travel is possible. Some
> >>> rural communities could become cut off and power cuts may occur. Some
> >>> injuries from slips and falls are possible on icy surfaces."
> >>> 
> >>> It seems quite dangerous to have an IETF in London. Let's meet in
> >>> Bogota or Kinshasa, where the risk of snow and ice is limited.
> >> 
> >> The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all infrastructure to a halt... :P
> >> 
> >> Today it's quite a mild spring day near London, sunny and very un-British weather...
> >> 
> >> Tim
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15 Mar. 2018 =D0=B3., 13:13 Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>:

> For just a "tiny" increase in the cost of living i could
> recommend a pretty snow safe region called california.
>

Yeah, CA, FL, or Puerto Rico. No even a slight possibility of a snowing
disaster!

Occasional hurricanes might be an issue sometimes though.

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></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">For just a &quot;tiny&quot; increase =
in the cost of living i could<br>
recommend a pretty snow safe region called california.<br></blockquote></di=
v><div><br></div><div>Yeah, CA, FL, or Puerto Rico. No even a slight possib=
ility of a snowing disaster!</div><div><br></div><div>Occasional hurricanes=
 might be an issue sometimes though.</div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
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Le 15/03/2018 =C3=A0 18:49, Tim Chown a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>> On 15 Mar 2018, at 17:05, STARK, BARBARA H <bs7652@att.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And what should people coming from NorthEast US say to this yellow
>>> warning =E2=80=A6 :)
>>
>> Acknowledge that it's your fault -- you're bringing the weather with y=
ou. :)
>=20
> Two weeks ago we had "The Beast From The East" here in the UK.=20

It was called "Moscou Paris" in France, coming from Russia.

Alex

  A cold snap from eastern Europe, giving us some proper snow, and the=20
first of note down south since 2013.
>=20
> Tim
>=20
>>>> On Mar 15, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just want my plane from SFO tomorrow to take off to London and get=

>>>> half way across the atlantic. The rest is details ;-)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:52:52PM +0000, Tim Chown wrote:
>>>>>> On 15 Mar 2018, at 16:33, Stephane Bortzmeyer
>>> <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 04:30:02PM +0100, Gordon Lennox
>>>>>> <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote a message of 9 lines which said=
:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Met Office has issued a weather warning for Greater London fo=
r
>>> this weekend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Travel delays on roads with some stranded vehicles and passengers=
,
>>>>>> along with delayed or cancelled rail and air travel is possible.
>>>>>> Some rural communities could become cut off and power cuts may
>>>>>> occur. Some injuries from slips and falls are possible on icy surf=
aces."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems quite dangerous to have an IETF in London. Let's meet in
>>>>>> Bogota or Kinshasa, where the risk of snow and ice is limited.
>>>>>
>>>>> The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all
>>>>> infrastructure to a halt... :P
>>>>>
>>>>> Today it's quite a mild spring day near London, sunny and very un-B=
ritish
>>> weather...
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
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Hello,
What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from  GATWICK airport?
Thanks
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I would take the Gatwick Express <https://www.gatwickexpress.com/> to
Victoria station, and then take the tube from Victoria to Edgware road
<http://www.londondrum.com/transport/train-journey.php?from=victoria&to=edgware-road-c>
.
You would need to buy tickets for the train as well as the tube (an Oyster
card <https://oyster.tfl.gov.uk/oyster/entry.do> is significantly cheaper
than paper tube tickets, at least if you plan to move around London during
your stay)

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> What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from  GATWICK airport?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I would take the <a href=3D"https://www.gatwickexpress.com=
/">Gatwick Express</a>=C2=A0to Victoria station, and then take the tube fro=
m <a href=3D"http://www.londondrum.com/transport/train-journey.php?from=3Dv=
ictoria&amp;to=3Dedgware-road-c">Victoria to Edgware road</a>.<div>You woul=
d need to buy tickets for the train as well as the tube (an <a href=3D"http=
s://oyster.tfl.gov.uk/oyster/entry.do">Oyster card</a>=C2=A0is significantl=
y cheaper than paper tube tickets, at least if you plan to move around Lond=
on during your stay)=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:42 AM Roberta Maglione (robmgl) &lt;<a=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Roberta<u></u><u></u></p>
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Hi,
if anyone has a ticket more  for social event to sell me , please tell me. =
I will be in London by Sunday evening.

Thanks in advance
Sergio


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On 3/15/18 9:52 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
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> The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all infrastructure to a halt... :P
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I had been contemplating a trip out to Bletchley Park tomorrow since the
museum is open, etc. I gather that might not be a good idea then?

-Jim


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I would make the decision on the day.

- Stewart


On 16/03/2018 08:52, Jim Fenton wrote:
> On 3/15/18 9:52 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
>> The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all infrastructure to a halt... :P
>>
>>
> I had been contemplating a trip out to Bletchley Park tomorrow since the
> museum is open, etc. I gather that might not be a good idea then?
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:52 AM Jim Fenton <fenton@bluepopcorn.net> wrote:

> On 3/15/18 9:52 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
> >
> > The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all infrastructure
> to a halt... :P
> >
> >
> I had been contemplating a trip out to Bletchley Park tomorrow since the
> museum is open, etc. I gather that might not be a good idea then?
>

In the absence of snow, I very highly recommend it. Make sure you see the
Bombe reconstruction!


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On 16 March 2018 at 07:58, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) <robmgl@cisco.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the info

If you have a contactless bank card (ie, NFC payment card) you can use
that on the tube instead of an Oyster card. Just as good. You can't,
however, use (most?) phones or smartwatches.

Either Oyster cards or contactless bank cards can be used on busses as
well - again, vastly cheaper and more convenient than cash or paper
tickets.

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> I would take the Gatwick Express to Victoria station, and then take the tube
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> You would need to buy tickets for the train as well as the tube (an Oyster
> card is significantly cheaper than paper tube tickets, at least if you plan
> to move around London during your stay)
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:51 AM Yoav Weiss <yoav@yoav.ws> wrote:

> I would take the Gatwick Express <https://www.gatwickexpress.com/> to
> Victoria station, and then take the tube from Victoria to Edgware road
> <http://www.londondrum.com/transport/train-journey.php?from=victoria&to=edgware-road-c>
> .
> You would need to buy tickets for the train as well as the tube (an Oyster
> card <https://oyster.tfl.gov.uk/oyster/entry.do> is significantly cheaper
> than paper tube tickets, at least if you plan to move around London during
> your stay)
>

If you have a credit or debit card with PayWave, and it doesn't charge
extortionate fees for foreign currencies, give it a try on the turnstiles:
it will likely work, and costs the same as an Oyster card, without the
hassle of buying one and topping it up.


>
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>>
>> What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from  GATWICK airport?
>>
>> Thanks
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give it a try on the turnstiles: it will likely work, and costs the same as=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
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On 16 March 2018 at 10:21, Katriel Cohn-Gordon <me@katriel.co.uk> wrote:
>> You can't, however, use (most?) phones or smartwatches.
>
> Apple Pay (phone or watch) and Google Pay should work anywhere Oyster does.

I've never managed to persuade the Oyster reader into accepting my
watch, for example.

Stories of it being a bit unreliable for others abound, for example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/london/comments/4qgk4a/android_pay_on_underground/

(I've never tried it with my phone, actually).

Dave.


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Get the train or coach into London, then the tube or bus to Paddington or
Edgewear Rd, do a www.journeyplanner. It give you all the options.

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also citymapper FTW

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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On 16 March 2018 at 10:21, Katriel Cohn-Gordon <me@katriel.co.uk> wrote:
>> You can't, however, use (most?) phones or smartwatches.
>
> Apple Pay (phone or watch) and Google Pay should work anywhere Oyster doe=
s.

I've never managed to persuade the Oyster reader into accepting my
watch, for example.

Stories of it being a bit unreliable for others abound, for example:
https://www.reddit.com/r/london/comments/4qgk4a/android_pay_on_underground/

(I've never tried it with my phone, actually).

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Subject: [101attendees] Proper spelling for Metropole Tube stop(s)
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Just so people don=E2=80=99t get lost, the proper spelling for the two Tube
stations close to the Metropole is =E2=80=9CEdgware Road=E2=80=9D. Note tha=
t there are two
separate Edgware Road stations separated by a couple of blocks - one just
serves the Bakerloo line, and the other serves the Circle, District, and
Hammersmith & City lines. You have to walk above ground to get between them=
.

And note that there is a completely different =E2=80=9CEdgware=E2=80=9D sta=
tion on the
Northern line - don=E2=80=99t go there! It=E2=80=99s a VERY long way away f=
rom the hotel.

Cheers,
Andy


On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:37 AM, June Parris <parrisjune51@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> Get the train or coach into London, then the tube or bus to Paddington or
> Edgewear Rd, do a www.journeyplanner. It give you all the options.
>
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 03:42, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) <robmgl@cisco.com=
>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from  GATWICK airport?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Roberta
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Just so people don=E2=80=99t get lost, the proper spelling=
 for the two Tube stations close to the Metropole is =E2=80=9CEdgware Road=
=E2=80=9D. Note that there are two separate Edgware Road stations separated=
 by a couple of blocks - one just serves the Bakerloo line, and the other s=
erves the Circle, District, and Hammersmith &amp; City lines. You have to w=
alk above ground to get between them.<div><br></div><div>And note that ther=
e is a completely different =E2=80=9CEdgware=E2=80=9D station on the Northe=
rn line - don=E2=80=99t go there! It=E2=80=99s a VERY long way away from th=
e hotel.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 16,=
 2018 at 7:37 AM, June Parris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:parri=
sjune51@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">parrisjune51@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Get the tra=
in or coach into London, then the tube or bus to Paddington or Edgewear Rd,=
 do a www.journeyplanner. It give you all the options.</div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div>On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 03:42, =
Roberta Maglione (robmgl) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robmgl@cisco.com" target=3D=
"_blank">robmgl@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72">
<div class=3D"m_3475554739617488703m_7548458311893971958WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from=
=C2=A0 GATWICK airport?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Roberta<u></u><u></u></p>
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Subject: Re: [101attendees] bletchley park
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Le 09/03/2018 =C3=A0 23:13, Toerless Eckert a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
> Sounds like a cool idea. If anyone wants to go three, let me know,
> not quite sure about my whole schedule, but that might be a nice trip.
>=20
> Do they allow Germans in ? Only when they bring some crypto machinery ?=
 ;-))

Germans touring the world may have stopped at Uni of Pennsylvania to=20
make computing machinery :-)

Alex

>=20
> Cheers
>     toerless
>=20
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 09:50:33PM +0000, Stewart Bryant wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 09/03/2018 21:34, Brett Carr wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 09/03/2018, 20:02, "101attendees on behalf of Randy Bush" <101atte=
ndees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of randy@psg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>     an hour away on the train, unless it breaks, is bletchley park. =
 if you
>>>>     do not recognize the name, then don't bother.  it has been taken=
 over by
>>>>     crass commercialisation, and the old guard and docents thrown ou=
t, but
>>>>     is still an historic inflection point.
>>> There are some pretty cool (and large) old computers there as well.
>>>
>>> Brett
>>>
>>
>> Technically the computers are on different, but adjacent site.
>>
>> - Stewart
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Subject: Re: [101attendees] How to reach Hilton Metropole from GATWICK airport?
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Hi Roberta,

If you are happy to go on the train, then I would:
  - Take the Thameslink train from Gatwick to Farringdon Station 
(heading north towards Bedford)
  - Change at Farringdon on to the Circle line (metro/underground) 
towards Edgware Road.  The circle line underground platform is next to 
the train platform, making it a quick/easy change.
  - Get off the underground at Edgware road and walk the last 150m.

It is the second choice on this link:

https://www.rome2rio.com/map/London-Gatwick-Airport-LGW/Hilton-London-Metropole

This is what I would do anyway ...

HTH,
Rob


On 16/03/2018 07:41, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) wrote:
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> What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from  GATWICK airport?
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    <p>Hi Roberta,</p>
    <p>If you are happy to go on the train, then I would:<br>
       - Take the Thameslink train from Gatwick to Farringdon Station
      (heading north towards Bedford)<br>
       - Change at Farringdon on to the Circle line (metro/underground)
      towards Edgware Road.  The circle line underground platform is
      next to the train platform, making it a quick/easy change.<br>
       - Get off the underground at Edgware road and walk the last 150m.<br>
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    <p>It is the second choice on this link:<br>
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.rome2rio.com/map/London-Gatwick-Airport-LGW/Hilton-London-Metropole">https://www.rome2rio.com/map/London-Gatwick-Airport-LGW/Hilton-London-Metropole</a><br>
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    This is what I would do anyway ...<br>
    <br>
    HTH,<br>
    Rob<br>
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From: "Nick Johnson" <nick@ethereum.org>
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> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:52 AM Jim Fenton  wrote:
> > On 3/15/18 9:52 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
> > >
> > > The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all
infrastructure
> > to a halt... :P
> > >
> > >
> > I had been contemplating a trip out to Bletchley Park tomorrow since
the
> > museum is open, etc. I gather that might not be a good idea then?
> >
>
> In the absence of snow, I very highly recommend it. Make sure you see
the
> Bombe reconstruction!

I wonder if there is a standard, or at least a draft, on the concept of
a yellow warning (April 1st, anyone?).

The Western European convention is
- red: danger to life
- amber: be prepared
- yellow: be aware
We had two red warnings earlier this month, for snow, but most years, we
have few, if any.

The warnings apply to all kinds of weather - wind, rain, sun, etc - and
my experience is that the snow warnings are the least useful, whatever
level they are.  Snow in England is so patchy, so variable.  When my
local council goes gritting, it knows, to within a few yards, which
stretches of roads will need treatment and uses GPS to turn the grit on
and off accordingly.  Warnings covering a region, like the South East of
England, are likely to be 90% wrong - there will be problems within the
area but most people will be saying what was that about?

So a yellow warning for London can range from not seeing a snowflake to
trains not running because the overhead power lines are down.  You
really have to find a local source of weather forecasting and keep
looking.  I find the BBC1 TV Teletext for the region quite good,
particularly forecasting temperatures every three hours for the next 24.
The problem here comes with snow, thaw, freeze generating sheets of ice
that can the linger for days.  From that point of view, the next few
days are not good, with Sunday temperatures above freezing in the day,
below at night; the weather just is not cold enough!  Thereafter, it is
more like +5C and +1C.

Tom Petch

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> > -Jim
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I bought mine and I am looking for an additional one to invite a friend.

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Hi all,

Wes Hardaker and I will be coordinating the mentoring programme for the
coming time. And for that we would like to ask your help.

For IETF101 we are looking for 3 mentors.

1. A first-timer interested in security, specifically TLS, ACME and TRANS.

2. A first-timer interested in Routing and Transport.

3. A first-timer interested in Routing, ICN, block chain, ICNRG and detnet.

If you speak other languages than English (such as Chinese, Spanish,
Japanese, etc) please let us know so we can help make the best possible
matches.

Thanks in advance!

Niels


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Obviously we are not looking for first-timers to function as mentors,
but for mentors who could help the aforementioned first-timers :)

On 03/16/2018 01:50 PM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Wes Hardaker and I will be coordinating the mentoring programme for the
> coming time. And for that we would like to ask your help.
> 
> For IETF101 we are looking for 3 mentors.
> 
> 1. A first-timer interested in security, specifically TLS, ACME and TRANS.
> 
> 2. A first-timer interested in Routing and Transport.
> 
> 3. A first-timer interested in Routing, ICN, block chain, ICNRG and detnet.
> 
> If you speak other languages than English (such as Chinese, Spanish,
> Japanese, etc) please let us know so we can help make the best possible
> matches.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Niels
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Thanks for the tip! Why don't you just send out a tube map or the travel
website, it would be so helpfull to people who don't know their way around,
that would be so much more helpfull. I know London well, so I won't have a
problem. I fact I was looking up the tfl site, as a lot of people are not
aware of it, www.tfl.com. There are also buses stopping right outside the
hotel, so much easier to do that, hence the journey planner. Please forgive
the spelling errors, sent that email in a hurry, just in case the person
who wanted to know was on the way. If they ask at the information desk at
the airport they will also get all the information they need. It is so easy
to find your way into Lo don, if you have a tube map and a journey planner.
In fact I worked in Paddington for many years and it is such an easy place
to get to.

Regards

June Parris
RN, RMN, BSc, MSc, MAG member.

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 07:53, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just so people don=E2=80=99t get lost, the proper spelling for the two Tu=
be
> stations close to the Metropole is =E2=80=9CEdgware Road=E2=80=9D. Note t=
hat there are two
> separate Edgware Road stations separated by a couple of blocks - one just
> serves the Bakerloo line, and the other serves the Circle, District, and
> Hammersmith & City lines. You have to walk above ground to get between th=
em.
>
> And note that there is a completely different =E2=80=9CEdgware=E2=80=9D s=
tation on the
> Northern line - don=E2=80=99t go there! It=E2=80=99s a VERY long way away=
 from the hotel.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:37 AM, June Parris <parrisjune51@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Get the train or coach into London, then the tube or bus to Paddington o=
r
>> Edgewear Rd, do a www.journeyplanner. It give you all the options.
>>
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 03:42, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) <robmgl@cisco.co=
m>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from  GATWICK airport?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Roberta
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks for the tip! Why don&#39;t you just send out =
a tube map or the travel website, it would be so helpfull to people who don=
&#39;t know their way around, that would be so much more helpfull. I know L=
ondon well, so I won&#39;t have a problem. I fact I was looking up the tfl =
site, as a lot of people are not aware of it, <a href=3D"http://www.tfl.com=
">www.tfl.com</a>. There are also buses stopping right outside the hotel, s=
o much easier to do that, hence the journey planner. Please forgive the spe=
lling errors, sent that email in a hurry, just in case the person who wante=
d to know was on the way. If they ask at the information desk at the airpor=
t they will also get all the information they need. It is so easy to find y=
our way into Lo don, if you have a tube map and a journey planner. In fact =
I worked in Paddington for many years and it is such an easy place to get t=
o.</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">June Parris</div><div dir=3D"au=
to">RN, RMN, BSc, MSc, MAG member.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div>On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 07:53, Andrew G. Malis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:a=
gmalis@gmail.com">agmalis@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div>Just so people don=E2=80=99t get lost, the proper spel=
ling for the two Tube stations close to the Metropole is =E2=80=9CEdgware R=
oad=E2=80=9D. Note that there are two separate Edgware Road stations separa=
ted by a couple of blocks - one just serves the Bakerloo line, and the othe=
r serves the Circle, District, and Hammersmith &amp; City lines. You have t=
o walk above ground to get between them.<div><br></div><div>And note that t=
here is a completely different =E2=80=9CEdgware=E2=80=9D station on the Nor=
thern line - don=E2=80=99t go there! It=E2=80=99s a VERY long way away from=
 the hotel.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar =
16, 2018 at 7:37 AM, June Parris <span>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:parrisjune51@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">parrisjune51@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Get the train or coa=
ch into London, then the tube or bus to Paddington or Edgewear Rd, do a www=
.journeyplanner. It give you all the options.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div><div class=3D"m_2844288752115831815h5"><div>On Fri, 16 Mar 2018=
 at 03:42, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robmgl@cisco.com=
" target=3D"_blank">robmgl@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div></div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px =
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"m_2844288752115831815h5">





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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from=
=C2=A0 GATWICK airport?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Roberta<u></u><u></u></p>
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I guess you meant to point to the* Transport for London* site:
https://tfl.gov.uk/

Regards,
 Rifaat


On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:06 AM, June Parris <parrisjune51@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> Thanks for the tip! Why don't you just send out a tube map or the travel
> website, it would be so helpfull to people who don't know their way aroun=
d,
> that would be so much more helpfull. I know London well, so I won't have =
a
> problem. I fact I was looking up the tfl site, as a lot of people are not
> aware of it, www.tfl.com. There are also buses stopping right outside the
> hotel, so much easier to do that, hence the journey planner. Please forgi=
ve
> the spelling errors, sent that email in a hurry, just in case the person
> who wanted to know was on the way. If they ask at the information desk at
> the airport they will also get all the information they need. It is so ea=
sy
> to find your way into Lo don, if you have a tube map and a journey planne=
r.
> In fact I worked in Paddington for many years and it is such an easy plac=
e
> to get to.
>
> Regards
>
> June Parris
> RN, RMN, BSc, MSc, MAG member.
>
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 07:53, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just so people don=E2=80=99t get lost, the proper spelling for the two T=
ube
>> stations close to the Metropole is =E2=80=9CEdgware Road=E2=80=9D. Note =
that there are two
>> separate Edgware Road stations separated by a couple of blocks - one jus=
t
>> serves the Bakerloo line, and the other serves the Circle, District, and
>> Hammersmith & City lines. You have to walk above ground to get between t=
hem.
>>
>> And note that there is a completely different =E2=80=9CEdgware=E2=80=9D =
station on the
>> Northern line - don=E2=80=99t go there! It=E2=80=99s a VERY long way awa=
y from the hotel.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:37 AM, June Parris <parrisjune51@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Get the train or coach into London, then the tube or bus to Paddington
>>> or Edgewear Rd, do a www..journeyplanner. It give you all the options.
>>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 03:42, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) <
>>> robmgl@cisco.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from  GATWICK airport?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Roberta
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I guess you meant to point to the<b> Transport for London<=
/b> site:<div><a href=3D"https://tfl.gov.uk/">https://tfl.gov.uk/</a><br></=
div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>=C2=A0Rifaat</div><div><br></div=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Ma=
r 16, 2018 at 9:06 AM, June Parris <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
parrisjune51@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">parrisjune51@gmail.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks=
 for the tip! Why don&#39;t you just send out a tube map or the travel webs=
ite, it would be so helpfull to people who don&#39;t know their way around,=
 that would be so much more helpfull. I know London well, so I won&#39;t ha=
ve a problem. I fact I was looking up the tfl site, as a lot of people are =
not aware of it, <a href=3D"http://www.tfl.com" target=3D"_blank">www.tfl.c=
om</a>. There are also buses stopping right outside the hotel, so much easi=
er to do that, hence the journey planner. Please forgive the spelling error=
s, sent that email in a hurry, just in case the person who wanted to know w=
as on the way. If they ask at the information desk at the airport they will=
 also get all the information they need. It is so easy to find your way int=
o Lo don, if you have a tube map and a journey planner. In fact I worked in=
 Paddington for many years and it is such an easy place to get to.</div></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">June Parris</div><div dir=3D"auto">RN, RMN=
, BSc, MSc, MAG member.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span clas=
s=3D""><div>On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 07:53, Andrew G. Malis &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:agmalis@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">agmalis@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><span class=3D"">Just s=
o people don=E2=80=99t get lost, the proper spelling for the two Tube stati=
ons close to the Metropole is =E2=80=9CEdgware Road=E2=80=9D. Note that the=
re are two separate Edgware Road stations separated by a couple of blocks -=
 one just serves the Bakerloo line, and the other serves the Circle, Distri=
ct, and Hammersmith &amp; City lines. You have to walk above ground to get =
between them.<div><br></div><div>And note that there is a completely differ=
ent =E2=80=9CEdgware=E2=80=9D station on the Northern line - don=E2=80=99t =
go there! It=E2=80=99s a VERY long way away from the hotel.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></span><div class=3D"g=
mail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On Fri, Mar 16,=
 2018 at 7:37 AM, June Parris <span>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:parrisjune51@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">parrisjune51@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></=
span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Get the train or=
 coach into London, then the tube or bus to Paddington or Edgewear Rd, do a=
 www..journeyplanner. It give you all the options.</div><span class=3D""><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"m_-1686376898500862363m_284=
4288752115831815h5"><div>On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 03:42, Roberta Maglione (ro=
bmgl) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robmgl@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">robmgl@cisc=
o.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv><div class=3D"m_-1686376898500862363m_2844288752115831815h5">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72">
<div class=3D"m_-1686376898500862363m_2844288752115831815m_3475554739617488=
703m_7548458311893971958WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from=
=C2=A0 GATWICK airport?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Roberta<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div></div></div>

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Yes, it would save so much confusion if people just go to the site. I still
use it and I know London well. We need to help and not find fault. London
looks confusing to people who don't know it, but with the maps and websites
it is easy.

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 09:21, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.ietf@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I guess you meant to point to the* Transport for London* site:
> https://tfl.gov.uk/
>
> Regards,
>  Rifaat
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:06 AM, June Parris <parrisjune51@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the tip! Why don't you just send out a tube map or the travel
>> website, it would be so helpfull to people who don't know their way arou=
nd,
>> that would be so much more helpfull. I know London well, so I won't have=
 a
>> problem. I fact I was looking up the tfl site, as a lot of people are no=
t
>> aware of it, www.tfl.com. There are also buses stopping right outside
>> the hotel, so much easier to do that, hence the journey planner. Please
>> forgive the spelling errors, sent that email in a hurry, just in case th=
e
>> person who wanted to know was on the way. If they ask at the information
>> desk at the airport they will also get all the information they need. It=
 is
>> so easy to find your way into Lo don, if you have a tube map and a journ=
ey
>> planner. In fact I worked in Paddington for many years and it is such an
>> easy place to get to.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> June Parris
>> RN, RMN, BSc, MSc, MAG member.
>>
> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 07:53, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> Just so people don=E2=80=99t get lost, the proper spelling for the two Tu=
be
>>> stations close to the Metropole is =E2=80=9CEdgware Road=E2=80=9D. Note=
 that there are two
>>> separate Edgware Road stations separated by a couple of blocks - one ju=
st
>>> serves the Bakerloo line, and the other serves the Circle, District, an=
d
>>> Hammersmith & City lines. You have to walk above ground to get between =
them.
>>>
>>> And note that there is a completely different =E2=80=9CEdgware=E2=80=9D=
 station on the
>>> Northern line - don=E2=80=99t go there! It=E2=80=99s a VERY long way aw=
ay from the hotel.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:37 AM, June Parris <parrisjune51@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> Get the train or coach into London, then the tube or bus to Paddington o=
r
>>>> Edgewear Rd, do a www..journeyplanner. It give you all the options.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 03:42, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) <
>>>> robmgl@cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from  GATWICK airport?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Roberta
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Yes, it would save so much confusion if people just =
go to the site. I still use it and I know London well. We need to help and =
not find fault. London looks confusing to people who don&#39;t know it, but=
 with the maps and websites it is easy.=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div>On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 09:21, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:rifaat.ietf@gmail.com">rifaat.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:=
1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>I guess you meant to point to the<b> =
Transport for London</b> site:<div><a href=3D"https://tfl.gov.uk/" target=
=3D"_blank">https://tfl.gov.uk/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</=
div><div>=C2=A0Rifaat</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:06 AM, June Parris <span>&l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:parrisjune51@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">parrisjune51@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">Thanks for the tip! Why don&#39;t you just send out a tube map or the =
travel website, it would be so helpfull to people who don&#39;t know their =
way around, that would be so much more helpfull. I know London well, so I w=
on&#39;t have a problem. I fact I was looking up the tfl site, as a lot of =
people are not aware of it, <a href=3D"http://www.tfl.com" target=3D"_blank=
">www.tfl.com</a>. There are also buses stopping right outside the hotel, s=
o much easier to do that, hence the journey planner. Please forgive the spe=
lling errors, sent that email in a hurry, just in case the person who wante=
d to know was on the way. If they ask at the information desk at the airpor=
t they will also get all the information they need. It is so easy to find y=
our way into Lo don, if you have a tube map and a journey planner. In fact =
I worked in Paddington for many years and it is such an easy place to get t=
o.</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">June Parris</div><div dir=3D"au=
to">RN, RMN, BSc, MSc, MAG member.</div></blockquote></div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span><div>On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 07:53, An=
drew G. Malis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ag=
malis@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></span></div></div></blockquote></d=
iv></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div><span>Just so people don=E2=80=99t get lost, the proper spellin=
g for the two Tube stations close to the Metropole is =E2=80=9CEdgware Road=
=E2=80=9D. Note that there are two separate Edgware Road stations separated=
 by a couple of blocks - one just serves the Bakerloo line, and the other s=
erves the Circle, District, and Hammersmith &amp; City lines. You have to w=
alk above ground to get between them.<div><br></div><div>And note that ther=
e is a completely different =E2=80=9CEdgware=E2=80=9D station on the Northe=
rn line - don=E2=80=99t go there! It=E2=80=99s a VERY long way away from th=
e hotel.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></di=
v></span></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 a=
t 7:37 AM, June Parris <span>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:parrisjune51@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">parrisjune51@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span></=
div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Get the train or coach into London, then the tub=
e or bus to Paddington or Edgewear Rd, do a www..journeyplanner. It give yo=
u all the options.</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><=
/div></div></blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><span><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"m_-3803597584464551300m_-1686376898500=
862363m_2844288752115831815h5"><div>On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 03:42, Roberta M=
aglione (robmgl) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robmgl@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">=
robmgl@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div><div class=3D"m_-3803597584464551300m_-1686376898500862363m_2=
844288752115831815h5">





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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from=
=C2=A0 GATWICK airport?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Roberta<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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The mobile app =E2=80=98citymapper=E2=80=99 is very good for finding your wa=
y around London.

Joseph

> On 16 Mar 2018, at 13:26, June Parris <parrisjune51@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Yes, it would save so much confusion if people just go to the site. I stil=
l use it and I know London well. We need to help and not find fault. London l=
ooks confusing to people who don't know it, but with the maps and websites i=
t is easy.=20
>=20
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 09:21, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.ietf@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>> I guess you meant to point to the Transport for London site:
>> https://tfl.gov.uk/
>>=20
>> Regards,
>>  Rifaat
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:06 AM, June Parris <parrisjune51@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
>>=20
>>> Thanks for the tip! Why don't you just send out a tube map or the travel=
 website, it would be so helpfull to people who don't know their way around,=
 that would be so much more helpfull. I know London well, so I won't have a p=
roblem. I fact I was looking up the tfl site, as a lot of people are not awa=
re of it, www.tfl.com. There are also buses stopping right outside the hotel=
, so much easier to do that, hence the journey planner. Please forgive the s=
pelling errors, sent that email in a hurry, just in case the person who want=
ed to know was on the way. If they ask at the information desk at the airpor=
t they will also get all the information they need. It is so easy to find yo=
ur way into Lo don, if you have a tube map and a journey planner. In fact I w=
orked in Paddington for many years and it is such an easy place to get to.
>>>=20
>>> Regards
>>>=20
>>> June Parris
>>> RN, RMN, BSc, MSc, MAG member.
>>=20
>>>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 07:53, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>=20
>>>> Just so people don=E2=80=99t get lost, the proper spelling for the two T=
ube stations close to the Metropole is =E2=80=9CEdgware Road=E2=80=9D. Note t=
hat there are two separate Edgware Road stations separated by a couple of bl=
ocks - one just serves the Bakerloo line, and the other serves the Circle, D=
istrict, and Hammersmith & City lines. You have to walk above ground to get b=
etween them.
>>>>=20
>>>> And note that there is a completely different =E2=80=9CEdgware=E2=80=9D=
 station on the Northern line - don=E2=80=99t go there! It=E2=80=99s a VERY l=
ong way away from the hotel.
>>>>=20
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Andy
>>>>=20
>>=20
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:37 AM, June Parris <parrisjune51@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>>=20
>>>>> Get the train or coach into London, then the tube or bus to Paddington=
 or Edgewear Rd, do a www..journeyplanner. It give you all the options.
>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 03:42, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) <robmgl@cisco=
.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from  GATWICK airport?=

>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Roberta
>>>>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div></div><div>The mobile app =E2=80=98cit=
ymapper=E2=80=99 is very good for finding your way around London.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Joseph</div><div><br>On 16 Mar 2018, at 13:26, June Parris &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:parrisjune51@gmail.com">parrisjune51@gmail.com</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div><div dir=3D"auto">Yes=
, it would save so much confusion if people just go to the site. I still use=
 it and I know London well. We need to help and not find fault. London looks=
 confusing to people who don't know it, but with the maps and websites it is=
 easy.&nbsp;</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at=
 09:21, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rifaat.ietf@gmail.com">rifa=
at.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>=
I guess you meant to point to the<b> Transport for London</b> site:<div><a h=
ref=3D"https://tfl.gov.uk/" target=3D"_blank">https://tfl.gov.uk/</a><br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>&nbsp;Rifaat</div><div><br></div><=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"></div></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at=
 9:06 AM, June Parris <span>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:parrisjune51@gmail.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">parrisjune51@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks for the tip! Why don't you just send o=
ut a tube map or the travel website, it would be so helpfull to people who d=
on't know their way around, that would be so much more helpfull. I know Lond=
on well, so I won't have a problem. I fact I was looking up the tfl site, as=
 a lot of people are not aware of it, <a href=3D"http://www.tfl.com" target=3D=
"_blank">www.tfl.com</a>. There are also buses stopping right outside the ho=
tel, so much easier to do that, hence the journey planner. Please forgive th=
e spelling errors, sent that email in a hurry, just in case the person who w=
anted to know was on the way. If they ask at the information desk at the air=
port they will also get all the information they need. It is so easy to find=
 your way into Lo don, if you have a tube map and a journey planner. In fact=
 I worked in Paddington for many years and it is such an easy place to get t=
o.</div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">June Parris</div><div dir=3D"auto=
">RN, RMN, BSc, MSc, MAG member.</div></blockquote></div></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span><div>On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 at 07:53, Andrew G=
. Malis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">agmalis@g=
mail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></span></div></div></blockquote></div></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>=
<span>Just so people don=E2=80=99t get lost, the proper spelling for the two=
 Tube stations close to the Metropole is =E2=80=9CEdgware Road=E2=80=9D. Not=
e that there are two separate Edgware Road stations separated by a couple of=
 blocks - one just serves the Bakerloo line, and the other serves the Circle=
, District, and Hammersmith &amp; City lines. You have to walk above ground t=
o get between them.<div><br></div><div>And note that there is a completely d=
ifferent =E2=80=9CEdgware=E2=80=9D station on the Northern line - don=E2=80=99=
t go there! It=E2=80=99s a VERY long way away from the hotel.</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></span></div></blockqu=
ote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 7:37 AM, June Parris <span>&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:parrisjune51@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">parrisjune51@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></span></div></div></div></blockquote></d=
iv></div></blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Get the trai=
n or coach into London, then the tube or bus to Paddington or Edgewear Rd, d=
o a www..journeyplanner. It give you all the options.</div></div></blockquot=
e></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
><div><span><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"m_-38035975844=
64551300m_-1686376898500862363m_2844288752115831815h5"><div>On Fri, 16 Mar 2=
018 at 03:42, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:robmgl@cisco.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">robmgl@cisco.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"m_-3803597584464551300m_-1686=
376898500862363m_2844288752115831815h5">





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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is the best way to reach Hilton Metropole from&n=
bsp; GATWICK airport?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Roberta<u></u><u></u></p>
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Bletchley Park initiators: please advise on the list when the details of =

the visit are firmer.

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Le 16/03/2018 =C3=A0 12:58, Alexandre PETRESCU a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
> Le 09/03/2018 =C3=A0 23:13, Toerless Eckert a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>> Sounds like a cool idea. If anyone wants to go three, let me know,
>> not quite sure about my whole schedule, but that might be a nice trip.=

>>
>> Do they allow Germans in ? Only when they bring some crypto machinery =

>> ? ;-))
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>>
>> Cheers
>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 toerless
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 09:50:33PM +0000, Stewart Bryant wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/03/2018 21:34, Brett Carr wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 09/03/2018, 20:02, "101attendees on behalf of Randy Bush"=20
>>>> <101attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of randy@psg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 an hour away on the train, unless it breaks, is =
bletchley=20
>>>>> park.=C2=A0 if you
>>>>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 do not recognize the name, then don't bother.=C2=
=A0 it has been=20
>>>>> taken over by
>>>>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 crass commercialisation, and the old guard and d=
ocents thrown=20
>>>>> out, but
>>>>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 is still an historic inflection point.
>>>> There are some pretty cool (and large) old computers there as well.
>>>>
>>>> Brett
>>>>
>>>
>>> Technically the computers are on different, but adjacent site.
>>>
>>> - Stewart
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I don't recall the restaurants around the Paddington Basin last time.
Maybe I just never noticed them, and stuck to Praed St. and Edgeware Rd.
I was walking through there yesterday.  Still bits of construction, but
I'm sure half the buildings were not there last time.

My impression is that there are a very large number of expensive pizza
restaurants.  More than seems economically healthy.  And if you go down
a bit to Hermitage St. there is a grouping of 6 vans of street food.

To get to the Basin, go out the back of the hotel to the dismal looking
valet area, cross, go through or around the curved building and you are
there.

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The warning of snow is now amber - strong easterly winds, expect
drifting and disruption to travel - lasts until 21:00 on Sunday and
covers London and the area to the South and North East thereof (which
includes Gatwick); everywhere else, such as Heathrow, is yellow.

Issued by the Met Office whose website is regularly updated.

Tom Petch


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> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Nick Johnson" <nick@ethereum.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 9:01 AM
>
> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:52 AM Jim Fenton  wrote:
> > > On 3/15/18 9:52 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all
> infrastructure
> > > to a halt... :P
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I had been contemplating a trip out to Bletchley Park tomorrow
since
> the
> > > museum is open, etc. I gather that might not be a good idea then?
> > >
> >
> > In the absence of snow, I very highly recommend it. Make sure you
see
> the
> > Bombe reconstruction!
>
> I wonder if there is a standard, or at least a draft, on the concept
of
> a yellow warning (April 1st, anyone?).
>
> The Western European convention is
> - red: danger to life
> - amber: be prepared
> - yellow: be aware
> We had two red warnings earlier this month, for snow, but most years,
we
> have few, if any.
>
> The warnings apply to all kinds of weather - wind, rain, sun, etc -
and
> my experience is that the snow warnings are the least useful, whatever
> level they are.  Snow in England is so patchy, so variable.  When my
> local council goes gritting, it knows, to within a few yards, which
> stretches of roads will need treatment and uses GPS to turn the grit
on
> and off accordingly.  Warnings covering a region, like the South East
of
> England, are likely to be 90% wrong - there will be problems within
the
> area but most people will be saying what was that about?
>
> So a yellow warning for London can range from not seeing a snowflake
to
> trains not running because the overhead power lines are down.  You
> really have to find a local source of weather forecasting and keep
> looking.  I find the BBC1 TV Teletext for the region quite good,
> particularly forecasting temperatures every three hours for the next
24.
> The problem here comes with snow, thaw, freeze generating sheets of
ice
> that can the linger for days.  From that point of view, the next few
> days are not good, with Sunday temperatures above freezing in the day,
> below at night; the weather just is not cold enough!  Thereafter, it
is
> more like +5C and +1C.
>
> Tom Petch
>
> > >
> > > -Jim
> > >
>


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A couple of items of interest in advance of IETF 101:

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IETF Chair and IESG Report: =
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On a personal note, I=E2=80=99m looking forward to a productive and =
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> On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:48 AM, tom p. <daedulus@btconnect.com> wrote:
> 
> The warning of snow is now amber - strong easterly winds, expect
> drifting and disruption to travel - lasts until 21:00 on Sunday and
> covers London and the area to the South and North East thereof (which
> includes Gatwick); everywhere else, such as Heathrow, is yellow.

For those of you like me wondering what the colors/scale are..


http://www.bbc.com/weather/features/16857847

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Severe_Weather_Warning_Service

Yellow -> Amber -> Red (IETF without bacon!)

- jared


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Hi,

Could you please remove me from this mailing list.

Thanks.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 12:11 tom p. <daedulus@btconnect.com> wrote:

> The warning of snow is now amber - strong easterly winds, expect
> drifting and disruption to travel - lasts until 21:00 on Sunday and
> covers London and the area to the South and North East thereof (which
> includes Gatwick); everywhere else, such as Heathrow, is yellow.
>
> Issued by the Met Office whose website is regularly updated.
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tom p." <daedulus@btconnect.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 11:36 AM
>
> > ---- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nick Johnson" <nick@ethereum.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 9:01 AM
> >
> > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:52 AM Jim Fenton  wrote:
> > > > On 3/15/18 9:52 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all
> > infrastructure
> > > > to a halt... :P
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I had been contemplating a trip out to Bletchley Park tomorrow
> since
> > the
> > > > museum is open, etc. I gather that might not be a good idea then?
> > > >
> > >
> > > In the absence of snow, I very highly recommend it. Make sure you
> see
> > the
> > > Bombe reconstruction!
> >
> > I wonder if there is a standard, or at least a draft, on the concept
> of
> > a yellow warning (April 1st, anyone?).
> >
> > The Western European convention is
> > - red: danger to life
> > - amber: be prepared
> > - yellow: be aware
> > We had two red warnings earlier this month, for snow, but most years,
> we
> > have few, if any.
> >
> > The warnings apply to all kinds of weather - wind, rain, sun, etc -
> and
> > my experience is that the snow warnings are the least useful, whatever
> > level they are.  Snow in England is so patchy, so variable.  When my
> > local council goes gritting, it knows, to within a few yards, which
> > stretches of roads will need treatment and uses GPS to turn the grit
> on
> > and off accordingly.  Warnings covering a region, like the South East
> of
> > England, are likely to be 90% wrong - there will be problems within
> the
> > area but most people will be saying what was that about?
> >
> > So a yellow warning for London can range from not seeing a snowflake
> to
> > trains not running because the overhead power lines are down.  You
> > really have to find a local source of weather forecasting and keep
> > looking.  I find the BBC1 TV Teletext for the region quite good,
> > particularly forecasting temperatures every three hours for the next
> 24.
> > The problem here comes with snow, thaw, freeze generating sheets of
> ice
> > that can the linger for days.  From that point of view, the next few
> > days are not good, with Sunday temperatures above freezing in the day,
> > below at night; the weather just is not cold enough!  Thereafter, it
> is
> > more like +5C and +1C.
> >
> > Tom Petch
> >
> > > >
> > > > -Jim
> > > >
> >
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Could yo=
u please remove me from this mailing list.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 12:11 tom p. &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daedulu=
s@btconnect.com">daedulus@btconnect.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote=
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d;padding-left:1ex">The warning of snow is now amber - strong easterly wind=
s, expect<br>
drifting and disruption to travel - lasts until 21:00 on Sunday and<br>
covers London and the area to the South and North East thereof (which<br>
includes Gatwick); everywhere else, such as Heathrow, is yellow.<br>
<br>
Issued by the Met Office whose website is regularly updated.<br>
<br>
Tom Petch<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: &quot;tom p.&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:daedulus@btconnect.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">daedulus@btconnect.com</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 11:36 AM<br>
<br>
&gt; ---- Original Message -----<br>
&gt; From: &quot;Nick Johnson&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nick@ethereum.org=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">nick@ethereum.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 9:01 AM<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:52 AM Jim Fenton=C2=A0 wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; On 3/15/18 9:52 AM, Tim Chown wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all=
<br>
&gt; infrastructure<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; to a halt... :P<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; I had been contemplating a trip out to Bletchley Park tomorr=
ow<br>
since<br>
&gt; the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; museum is open, etc. I gather that might not be a good idea =
then?<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; In the absence of snow, I very highly recommend it. Make sure you=
<br>
see<br>
&gt; the<br>
&gt; &gt; Bombe reconstruction!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I wonder if there is a standard, or at least a draft, on the concept<b=
r>
of<br>
&gt; a yellow warning (April 1st, anyone?).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The Western European convention is<br>
&gt; - red: danger to life<br>
&gt; - amber: be prepared<br>
&gt; - yellow: be aware<br>
&gt; We had two red warnings earlier this month, for snow, but most years,<=
br>
we<br>
&gt; have few, if any.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The warnings apply to all kinds of weather - wind, rain, sun, etc -<br=
>
and<br>
&gt; my experience is that the snow warnings are the least useful, whatever=
<br>
&gt; level they are.=C2=A0 Snow in England is so patchy, so variable.=C2=A0=
 When my<br>
&gt; local council goes gritting, it knows, to within a few yards, which<br=
>
&gt; stretches of roads will need treatment and uses GPS to turn the grit<b=
r>
on<br>
&gt; and off accordingly.=C2=A0 Warnings covering a region, like the South =
East<br>
of<br>
&gt; England, are likely to be 90% wrong - there will be problems within<br=
>
the<br>
&gt; area but most people will be saying what was that about?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So a yellow warning for London can range from not seeing a snowflake<b=
r>
to<br>
&gt; trains not running because the overhead power lines are down.=C2=A0 Yo=
u<br>
&gt; really have to find a local source of weather forecasting and keep<br>
&gt; looking.=C2=A0 I find the BBC1 TV Teletext for the region quite good,<=
br>
&gt; particularly forecasting temperatures every three hours for the next<b=
r>
24.<br>
&gt; The problem here comes with snow, thaw, freeze generating sheets of<br=
>
ice<br>
&gt; that can the linger for days.=C2=A0 From that point of view, the next =
few<br>
&gt; days are not good, with Sunday temperatures above freezing in the day,=
<br>
&gt; below at night; the weather just is not cold enough!=C2=A0 Thereafter,=
 it<br>
is<br>
&gt; more like +5C and +1C.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Tom Petch<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; -Jim<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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This seems weird. Just arrived at Paddington and walked to the Metropole 
without even a jacket on, and was regretting only bringing my heavy 
jacket because the weather didn't look right for a light jacket. There 
is plenty of blue in the sky at the moment. No yellow or amber anywhere. 
:-) Maybe this too will change.

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On 16/03/2018 16:18, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> This seems weird. Just arrived at Paddington and walked to the Metropole
> without even a jacket on, and was regretting only bringing my heavy
> jacket because the weather didn't look right for a light jacket. There
> is plenty of blue in the sky at the moment. No yellow or amber anywhere.
> :-) Maybe this too will change.

I think it's going to turn suddenly cold overnight!

Cathy


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:18 PM

> This seems weird. Just arrived at Paddington and walked to the
Metropole
> without even a jacket on, and was regretting only bringing my heavy
> jacket because the weather didn't look right for a light jacket. There
> is plenty of blue in the sky at the moment. No yellow or amber
anywhere.
> :-) Maybe this too will change.

Paul

Yes; the forecast for Friday 18:00 in London is 11C; for Saturday max 3C
min 0C; that for Sunday max +2C, min -2C.  Depending on where you come
from that may be heavy jacket weather, may be swimming trunks:-)

The sky may stay blue when it is -2C, it may turn white or black.

Tom Petch

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We went to the Faraday Museum at the The Royal Institution this =
afternoon.

See:  http://www.rigb.org/visit-us/faraday-museum

Small museum about the work of Michael Faraday with exhibits showing the =
original lab equipment and a replica of his laboratory.  I liked it, but =
it=E2=80=99s not an interactive style of science museum (wouldn=E2=80=99t =
recommend it for small kids).  It=E2=80=99s amazing how much stuff they =
figured out.  You can also look around the Royal Institution.

It=E2=80=99s located in Mayfair which has other things to see.

Bob


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On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 04:14:56PM +0000, Hamid Ziyati wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Could you please remove me from this mailing list.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 12:11 tom p. <daedulus@btconnect.com> wrote:
> 
> > The warning of snow is now amber - strong easterly winds, expect
> > drifting and disruption to travel - lasts until 21:00 on Sunday and
> > covers London and the area to the South and North East thereof (which
> > includes Gatwick); everywhere else, such as Heathrow, is yellow.
> >
> > Issued by the Met Office whose website is regularly updated.
> >
> > Tom Petch
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "tom p." <daedulus@btconnect.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 11:36 AM
> >
> > > ---- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Nick Johnson" <nick@ethereum.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 9:01 AM
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:52 AM Jim Fenton  wrote:
> > > > > On 3/15/18 9:52 AM, Tim Chown wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The snow is not dangerous, but an inch of it brings all
> > > infrastructure
> > > > > to a halt... :P
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > I had been contemplating a trip out to Bletchley Park tomorrow
> > since
> > > the
> > > > > museum is open, etc. I gather that might not be a good idea then?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > In the absence of snow, I very highly recommend it. Make sure you
> > see
> > > the
> > > > Bombe reconstruction!
> > >
> > > I wonder if there is a standard, or at least a draft, on the concept
> > of
> > > a yellow warning (April 1st, anyone?).
> > >
> > > The Western European convention is
> > > - red: danger to life
> > > - amber: be prepared
> > > - yellow: be aware
> > > We had two red warnings earlier this month, for snow, but most years,
> > we
> > > have few, if any.
> > >
> > > The warnings apply to all kinds of weather - wind, rain, sun, etc -
> > and
> > > my experience is that the snow warnings are the least useful, whatever
> > > level they are.  Snow in England is so patchy, so variable.  When my
> > > local council goes gritting, it knows, to within a few yards, which
> > > stretches of roads will need treatment and uses GPS to turn the grit
> > on
> > > and off accordingly.  Warnings covering a region, like the South East
> > of
> > > England, are likely to be 90% wrong - there will be problems within
> > the
> > > area but most people will be saying what was that about?
> > >
> > > So a yellow warning for London can range from not seeing a snowflake
> > to
> > > trains not running because the overhead power lines are down.  You
> > > really have to find a local source of weather forecasting and keep
> > > looking.  I find the BBC1 TV Teletext for the region quite good,
> > > particularly forecasting temperatures every three hours for the next
> > 24.
> > > The problem here comes with snow, thaw, freeze generating sheets of
> > ice
> > > that can the linger for days.  From that point of view, the next few
> > > days are not good, with Sunday temperatures above freezing in the day,
> > > below at night; the weather just is not cold enough!  Thereafter, it
> > is
> > > more like +5C and +1C.
> > >
> > > Tom Petch
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jim
> > > > >
> > >
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As i was trying to imply in before re. NE USA being more professional
about cold weather (like norway/sweden): London seems to be part of the
region in europe that's more hyperventilating about cold weather issues than
really being affected badly. 

Professional cold weather behavior:

"Hey how was your trip out into the snow" ?
"Great, we only lost two men".

Oh well.. still kidding, but not yet sure i will make it without issues to london.

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> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:18 PM
> 
> > This seems weird. Just arrived at Paddington and walked to the
> Metropole
> > without even a jacket on, and was regretting only bringing my heavy
> > jacket because the weather didn't look right for a light jacket. There
> > is plenty of blue in the sky at the moment. No yellow or amber
> anywhere.
> > :-) Maybe this too will change.
> 
> Paul
> 
> Yes; the forecast for Friday 18:00 in London is 11C; for Saturday max 3C
> min 0C; that for Sunday max +2C, min -2C.  Depending on where you come
> from that may be heavy jacket weather, may be swimming trunks:-)
> 
> The sky may stay blue when it is -2C, it may turn white or black.
> 
> Tom Petch
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> > --Paul Hoffman
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All,

Please join us at the Bombay Palace for dinner with the Indian community at
IETF.

The cost is 40 pounds per person.

Please register at:

https://www.iiesoc.in/ietf-dinner

We will need payment before dinner & will let you know how to Venmo or
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>All,</div><div><br></div><div>Please join us at the B=
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register at:</div><div><br></div><a href=3D"https://www.iiesoc.in/ietf-dinn=
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Thanks to everyone who posted clues about this. The only things I had to
figure out when I arrived were

   - All of the ticket machines that so clearly say "Heathrow Express" seem
   to have one button on the middle of the bottom of the screen that says
   "Heathrow Connect". Don't look for a Heathrow Connect ticket machine.
   - All of the elevators that so clearly say "Heathrow Express" also lead
   to Heathrow Connect - they depart from the same platform, just not at the
   same time.

I had a 12 minute wait, and the train loaded up with passengers at the
first stop (but I was already sitting down with luggage stowed), and
emptied out about three stops later. It was 20-something pounds for a round
trip (any day).

So, that also works.

Spencer

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And if you are arriving through St-Pancras just don=92t bother if you do no=
t want and take a cab. 10 bucks to the hotel in 10 minutes of comfort.
Simple an easy.

On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@=
gmail.com<mailto:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks to everyone who posted clues about this. The only things I had to fi=
gure out when I arrived were

  *   All of the ticket machines that so clearly say "Heathrow Express" see=
m to have one button on the middle of the bottom of the screen that says "H=
eathrow Connect". Don't look for a Heathrow Connect ticket machine.
  *   All of the elevators that so clearly say "Heathrow Express" also lead=
 to Heathrow Connect - they depart from the same platform, just not at the =
same time.

I had a 12 minute wait, and the train loaded up with passengers at the firs=
t stop (but I was already sitting down with luggage stowed), and emptied ou=
t about three stops later. It was 20-something pounds for a round trip (any=
 day).

So, that also works.

Spencer
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Well, hopefully.

The North East of US, or indeed Canada, do indeed cope much better with
snow than London does.

In London, if you say "winter tyres" (or even "winter tires", I suppose)
people will look at you blankly. Even in the north of England, where snow
isn't just something one Christmas cards, my parents don't bother with
winter tyres. They just stay in for a few days.

It's not that the UK is somehow panicking hysterically about snow that Real
Men strive through - Real Men strive through that snow by investing
millions in snowploughs, spiky ice-roller things, and other stuff I have
literally never seen. Here, we make do with a bucket of grit, for the
*very* occasional day it snows, and it's seen as a jolly good excuse for a
day at home with the kids. (Or, a day for a nice drive where we get to use
the Go Around Corners Sideways lever we have between the seats).

Point being, a city paralysed for a couple of days every few years is
considered much better value than spending several million on snow clearing
kit every year.

That said, snow in March coincides with Budget Underspend Season, so you
never know...

Dave.

On 16 Mar 2018 21:55, "Toerless Eckert" <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:

> As i was trying to imply in before re. NE USA being more professional
> about cold weather (like norway/sweden): London seems to be part of the
> region in europe that's more hyperventilating about cold weather issues
> than
> really being affected badly.
>
> Professional cold weather behavior:
>
> "Hey how was your trip out into the snow" ?
> "Great, we only lost two men".
>
> Oh well.. still kidding, but not yet sure i will make it without issues to
> london.
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 04:36:03PM -0000, tom p. wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:18 PM
> >
> > > This seems weird. Just arrived at Paddington and walked to the
> > Metropole
> > > without even a jacket on, and was regretting only bringing my heavy
> > > jacket because the weather didn't look right for a light jacket. There
> > > is plenty of blue in the sky at the moment. No yellow or amber
> > anywhere.
> > > :-) Maybe this too will change.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Yes; the forecast for Friday 18:00 in London is 11C; for Saturday max 3C
> > min 0C; that for Sunday max +2C, min -2C.  Depending on where you come
> > from that may be heavy jacket weather, may be swimming trunks:-)
> >
> > The sky may stay blue when it is -2C, it may turn white or black.
> >
> > Tom Petch
> >
> > > --Paul Hoffman
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<div dir=3D"auto">Well, hopefully.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">The North East of US, or indeed Canada, do indeed cope much better wit=
h snow than London does.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>In London, if you say &quot;winter tyres&quot; (or even &quot;winter tires=
&quot;, I suppose) people will look at you blankly. Even in the north of En=
gland, where snow isn&#39;t just something one Christmas cards, my parents =
don&#39;t bother with winter tyres. They just stay in for a few days.</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">It&#39;s not that the UK is s=
omehow panicking hysterically about snow that Real Men strive through - Rea=
l Men strive through that snow by investing millions in snowploughs, spiky =
ice-roller things, and other stuff I have literally never seen. Here, we ma=
ke do with a bucket of grit, for the *very* occasional day it snows, and it=
&#39;s seen as a jolly good excuse for a day at home with the kids. (Or, a =
day for a nice drive where we get to use the Go Around Corners Sideways lev=
er we have between the seats).</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">Point being, a city paralysed for a couple of days every few years i=
s considered much better value than spending several million on snow cleari=
ng kit every year.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">That =
said, snow in March coincides with Budget Underspend Season, so you never k=
now...</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Dave.</div></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 16 Mar 2018 21=
:55, &quot;Toerless Eckert&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tte@cs.fau.de">tte@c=
s.fau.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">As i was trying to imply in before re. NE USA being more professional<b=
r>
about cold weather (like norway/sweden): London seems to be part of the<br>
region in europe that&#39;s more hyperventilating about cold weather issues=
 than<br>
really being affected badly.<br>
<br>
Professional cold weather behavior:<br>
<br>
&quot;Hey how was your trip out into the snow&quot; ?<br>
&quot;Great, we only lost two men&quot;.<br>
<br>
Oh well.. still kidding, but not yet sure i will make it without issues to =
london.<br>
<br>
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 04:36:03PM -0000, tom p. wrote:<br>
&gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>
&gt; From: &quot;Paul Hoffman&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paul.hoffman@vpnc=
.org">paul.hoffman@vpnc.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:18 PM<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; This seems weird. Just arrived at Paddington and walked to the<br=
>
&gt; Metropole<br>
&gt; &gt; without even a jacket on, and was regretting only bringing my hea=
vy<br>
&gt; &gt; jacket because the weather didn&#39;t look right for a light jack=
et. There<br>
&gt; &gt; is plenty of blue in the sky at the moment. No yellow or amber<br=
>
&gt; anywhere.<br>
&gt; &gt; :-) Maybe this too will change.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Paul<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Yes; the forecast for Friday 18:00 in London is 11C; for Saturday max =
3C<br>
&gt; min 0C; that for Sunday max +2C, min -2C.=C2=A0 Depending on where you=
 come<br>
&gt; from that may be heavy jacket weather, may be swimming trunks:-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The sky may stay blue when it is -2C, it may turn white or black.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Tom Petch<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; --Paul Hoffman<br>
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Heathrow express to Paddington, short walk to hotel. Simple.

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 11:23 PM Da Silva, Saulo <Sdasilva@icao.int> wrote:

> And if you are arriving through St-Pancras just don=E2=80=99t bother if y=
ou do not
> want and take a cab. 10 bucks to the hotel in 10 minutes of comfort.
> Simple an easy.
>
> On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
> spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone who posted clues about this. The only things I had to
> figure out when I arrived were
>
>    - All of the ticket machines that so clearly say "Heathrow Express"
>    seem to have one button on the middle of the bottom of the screen that=
 says
>    "Heathrow Connect". Don't look for a Heathrow Connect ticket machine.
>    - All of the elevators that so clearly say "Heathrow Express" also
>    lead to Heathrow Connect - they depart from the same platform, just no=
t at
>    the same time.
>
> I had a 12 minute wait, and the train loaded up with passengers at the
> first stop (but I was already sitting down with luggage stowed), and
> emptied out about three stops later. It was 20-something pounds for a rou=
nd
> trip (any day).
>
> So, that also works.
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Heathrow express to Paddington, short walk to hotel. Simp=
le.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Mar 16, 20=
18, 11:23 PM Da Silva, Saulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Sdasilva@icao.int">Sdasi=
lva@icao.int</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div dir=3D"auto">
<div></div>
<div>And if you are arriving through St-Pancras just don=E2=80=99t bother i=
f you do not want and take a cab. 10 bucks to the hotel in 10 minutes of co=
mfort.</div>
<div>Simple an easy.</div>
<div><br>
On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">spence=
rdawkins.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks to everyone who posted clues about this. The only t=
hings I had to figure out when I arrived were
<div>
<ul>
<li>All of the ticket machines that so clearly say &quot;Heathrow Express&q=
uot; seem to have one button on the middle of the bottom of the screen that=
 says &quot;Heathrow Connect&quot;. Don&#39;t look for a Heathrow Connect t=
icket machine.</li><li>All of the elevators that so clearly say &quot;Heath=
row Express&quot; also lead to Heathrow Connect - they depart from the same=
 platform, just not at the same time.=C2=A0</li></ul>
I had a 12 minute wait, and the train loaded up with passengers at the firs=
t stop (but I was already sitting down with luggage stowed), and emptied ou=
t about three stops later. It was 20-something pounds for a round trip (any=
 day).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So, that also works.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Spencer</div>
</div>
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cab ride was =C2=A373.20, for those wondering

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 23:44 Chris Morrow <morrowc@google.com> wrote:

> Heathrow express to Paddington, short walk to hotel. Simple.
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 11:23 PM Da Silva, Saulo <Sdasilva@icao.int> wrote:
>
>> And if you are arriving through St-Pancras just don=E2=80=99t bother if =
you do
>> not want and take a cab. 10 bucks to the hotel in 10 minutes of comfort.
>> Simple an easy.
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
>> spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who posted clues about this. The only things I had to
>> figure out when I arrived were
>>
>>    - All of the ticket machines that so clearly say "Heathrow Express"
>>    seem to have one button on the middle of the bottom of the screen tha=
t says
>>    "Heathrow Connect". Don't look for a Heathrow Connect ticket machine.
>>    - All of the elevators that so clearly say "Heathrow Express" also
>>    lead to Heathrow Connect - they depart from the same platform, just n=
ot at
>>    the same time.
>>
>> I had a 12 minute wait, and the train loaded up with passengers at the
>> first stop (but I was already sitting down with luggage stowed), and
>> emptied out about three stops later. It was 20-something pounds for a ro=
und
>> trip (any day).
>>
>> So, that also works.
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">cab ride was =C2=A373.20, for those wondering</div><div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 23:44 Chris Morr=
ow &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:morrowc@google.com">morrowc@google.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Heathrow expr=
ess to Paddington, short walk to hotel. Simple.</div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div>On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 11:23 PM Da Silva, Saulo &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:Sdasilva@icao.int" target=3D"_blank">Sdasilva@icao.int</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div dir=3D"auto">
<div></div>
<div>And if you are arriving through St-Pancras just don=E2=80=99t bother i=
f you do not want and take a cab. 10 bucks to the hotel in 10 minutes of co=
mfort.</div>
<div>Simple an easy.</div>
<div><br>
On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">spence=
rdawkins.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div>Thanks to everyone who posted clues about this. The only things I had =
to figure out when I arrived were
<div>
<ul>
<li>All of the ticket machines that so clearly say &quot;Heathrow Express&q=
uot; seem to have one button on the middle of the bottom of the screen that=
 says &quot;Heathrow Connect&quot;. Don&#39;t look for a Heathrow Connect t=
icket machine.</li><li>All of the elevators that so clearly say &quot;Heath=
row Express&quot; also lead to Heathrow Connect - they depart from the same=
 platform, just not at the same time.=C2=A0</li></ul>
I had a 12 minute wait, and the train loaded up with passengers at the firs=
t stop (but I was already sitting down with luggage stowed), and emptied ou=
t about three stops later. It was 20-something pounds for a round trip (any=
 day).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So, that also works.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Spencer</div>
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3x heathrow express..=20

I=E2=80=99ve had good luck with heathrow express myself, buy the return =
ticket at the same time if you=E2=80=99re going back the same way.

(I am not this time).

- Jared

> On Mar 16, 2018, at 7:53 PM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> wrote:
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> Heathrow express to Paddington, short walk to hotel. Simple.
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> Simple an easy.
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>> Thanks to everyone who posted clues about this. The only things I had =
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>> 	=E2=80=A2 All of the elevators that so clearly say "Heathrow =
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I booked a car service - =C2=A387 round trip.

Jodi

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 16, 2018, at 7:53 PM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall <joe@cdt.org> wrote:

cab ride was =C2=A373.20, for those wondering

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 23:44 Chris Morrow <morrowc@google.com> wrote:

> Heathrow express to Paddington, short walk to hotel. Simple.
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 11:23 PM Da Silva, Saulo <Sdasilva@icao.int> wrote:
>
>> And if you are arriving through St-Pancras just don=E2=80=99t bother if =
you do
>> not want and take a cab. 10 bucks to the hotel in 10 minutes of comfort.
>> Simple an easy.
>>
>> On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
>> spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who posted clues about this. The only things I had to
>> figure out when I arrived were
>>
>>    - All of the ticket machines that so clearly say "Heathrow Express"
>>    seem to have one button on the middle of the bottom of the screen tha=
t says
>>    "Heathrow Connect". Don't look for a Heathrow Connect ticket machine.
>>    - All of the elevators that so clearly say "Heathrow Express" also
>>    lead to Heathrow Connect - they depart from the same platform, just n=
ot at
>>    the same time.
>>
>> I had a 12 minute wait, and the train loaded up with passengers at the
>> first stop (but I was already sitting down with luggage stowed), and
>> emptied out about three stops later. It was 20-something pounds for a ro=
und
>> trip (any day).
>>
>> So, that also works.
>>
>> Spencer
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round trip.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleM=
ailSignature">Jodi<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 16, 2018=
, at 7:53 PM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:joe@cdt.org">joe@cd=
t.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=
=3D"auto">cab ride was =C2=A373.20, for those wondering</div><div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 23:44 Chris Morrow &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:morrowc@google.com">morrowc@google.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Heathrow express to P=
addington, short walk to hotel. Simple.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div>On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 11:23 PM Da Silva, Saulo &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
Sdasilva@icao.int" target=3D"_blank">Sdasilva@icao.int</a>&gt; wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div dir=3D"auto">
<div></div>
<div>And if you are arriving through St-Pancras just don=E2=80=99t bother i=
f you do not want and take a cab. 10 bucks to the hotel in 10 minutes of co=
mfort.</div>
<div>Simple an easy.</div>
<div><br>
On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:06 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">spence=
rdawkins.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>
<div>Thanks to everyone who posted clues about this. The only things I had =
to figure out when I arrived were
<div>
<ul>
<li>All of the ticket machines that so clearly say &quot;Heathrow Express&q=
uot; seem to have one button on the middle of the bottom of the screen that=
 says &quot;Heathrow Connect&quot;. Don&#39;t look for a Heathrow Connect t=
icket machine.</li><li>All of the elevators that so clearly say &quot;Heath=
row Express&quot; also lead to Heathrow Connect - they depart from the same=
 platform, just not at the same time.=C2=A0</li></ul>
I had a 12 minute wait, and the train loaded up with passengers at the firs=
t stop (but I was already sitting down with luggage stowed), and emptied ou=
t about three stops later. It was 20-something pounds for a round trip (any=
 day).<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So, that also works.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Spencer</div>
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i have a 06:30 flight friday.  i am told first HEX is 05:10, so not
useful.  is it really taxi/uber time?

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> On 17 Mar 2018, at 08:25, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
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> i have a 06:30 flight friday.  i am told first HEX is 05:10, so not useful=
.  is it really taxi/uber time?

Probably still cutting it a bit fine, but there is a Heathrow Connect servic=
e at 04:42 https://www.heathrowconnect.com/train-times

(Heathrow connect is half the price, every 30 minutes vs Hex every 15 mins, a=
nd slower since it has intermediate stops)

Tony.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div><br></div><div>On 17 Mar 2018, at 08:2=
5, Randy Bush &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:randy@psg.com">randy@psg.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span>i have a 06:30 flight f=
riday. &nbsp;i am told first HEX is 05:10, so not&nbsp;</span><span>useful. &=
nbsp;is it really taxi/uber time?</span><br></div></blockquote><div><br></di=
v><div>Probably still cutting it a bit fine, but there is a Heathrow Connect=
 service at 04:42&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.heathrowconnect.com/train-time=
s">https://www.heathrowconnect.com/train-times</a></div><br><div><span style=
=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">(Heathrow connect is half the=
 price, every 30 minutes vs Hex every 15 mins, and slower since it has inter=
mediate stops)<br><br></span><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255,=
 255, 255, 0);">Tony.</span><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 2=
55, 255, 0);">--&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style=3D"background-color: rgb=
a(255, 255, 255, 0);">f.anthony.n.finch &nbsp;&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dot@dota=
t.at">dot@dotat.at</a>&gt; &nbsp;<a href=3D"http://dotat.at">http://dotat.at=
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> Probably still cutting it a bit fine, but there is a Heathrow Connect
> service at 04:42 https://www.heathrowconnect.com/train-times

could be viable.  thanks.

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It is Saturday morning, snowing, traffic as usual. Don't know what is the si=
tuation at the London airports though=20

> On Mar 16, 2018, at 23:42, Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net> wrote:
>=20
> Well, hopefully.
>=20
> The North East of US, or indeed Canada, do indeed cope much better with sn=
ow than London does.
>=20
> In London, if you say "winter tyres" (or even "winter tires", I suppose) p=
eople will look at you blankly. Even in the north of England, where snow isn=
't just something one Christmas cards, my parents don't bother with winter t=
yres. They just stay in for a few days.
>=20
> It's not that the UK is somehow panicking hysterically about snow that Rea=
l Men strive through - Real Men strive through that snow by investing millio=
ns in snowploughs, spiky ice-roller things, and other stuff I have literally=
 never seen. Here, we make do with a bucket of grit, for the *very* occasion=
al day it snows, and it's seen as a jolly good excuse for a day at home with=
 the kids. (Or, a day for a nice drive where we get to use the Go Around Cor=
ners Sideways lever we have between the seats).
>=20
> Point being, a city paralysed for a couple of days every few years is cons=
idered much better value than spending several million on snow clearing kit e=
very year.
>=20
> That said, snow in March coincides with Budget Underspend Season, so you n=
ever know...
>=20
> Dave.
>=20
>> On 16 Mar 2018 21:55, "Toerless Eckert" <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>> As i was trying to imply in before re. NE USA being more professional
>> about cold weather (like norway/sweden): London seems to be part of the
>> region in europe that's more hyperventilating about cold weather issues t=
han
>> really being affected badly.
>>=20
>> Professional cold weather behavior:
>>=20
>> "Hey how was your trip out into the snow" ?
>> "Great, we only lost two men".
>>=20
>> Oh well.. still kidding, but not yet sure i will make it without issues t=
o london.
>>=20
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 04:36:03PM -0000, tom p. wrote:
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:18 PM
>> >
>> > > This seems weird. Just arrived at Paddington and walked to the
>> > Metropole
>> > > without even a jacket on, and was regretting only bringing my heavy
>> > > jacket because the weather didn't look right for a light jacket. Ther=
e
>> > > is plenty of blue in the sky at the moment. No yellow or amber
>> > anywhere.
>> > > :-) Maybe this too will change.
>> >
>> > Paul
>> >
>> > Yes; the forecast for Friday 18:00 in London is 11C; for Saturday max 3=
C
>> > min 0C; that for Sunday max +2C, min -2C.  Depending on where you come
>> > from that may be heavy jacket weather, may be swimming trunks:-)
>> >
>> > The sky may stay blue when it is -2C, it may turn white or black.
>> >
>> > Tom Petch
>> >
>> > > --Paul Hoffman
>> > >
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div></div><div>It is Saturday morning, sno=
wing, traffic as usual. Don't know what is the situation at the London airpo=
rts though&nbsp;</div><div><br>On Mar 16, 2018, at 23:42, Dave Cridland &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:dave@cridland.net">dave@cridland.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Well, hopefully.<div=
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The North East of US, or indeed Ca=
nada, do indeed cope much better with snow than London does.</div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">In London, if you say "winter tyres" (or e=
ven "winter tires", I suppose) people will look at you blankly. Even in the n=
orth of England, where snow isn't just something one Christmas cards, my par=
ents don't bother with winter tyres. They just stay in for a few days.</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">It's not that the UK is someho=
w panicking hysterically about snow that Real Men strive through - Real Men s=
trive through that snow by investing millions in snowploughs, spiky ice-roll=
er things, and other stuff I have literally never seen. Here, we make do wit=
h a bucket of grit, for the *very* occasional day it snows, and it's seen as=
 a jolly good excuse for a day at home with the kids. (Or, a day for a nice d=
rive where we get to use the Go Around Corners Sideways lever we have betwee=
n the seats).</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Point being=
, a city paralysed for a couple of days every few years is considered much b=
etter value than spending several million on snow clearing kit every year.</=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">That said, snow in March c=
oincides with Budget Underspend Season, so you never know...</div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Dave.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 16 Mar 2018 21:55, "Toerless Eckert" &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tte@cs.fau.de">tte@cs.fau.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"a=
ttribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">As i was trying to imply in before=
 re. NE USA being more professional<br>
about cold weather (like norway/sweden): London seems to be part of the<br>
region in europe that's more hyperventilating about cold weather issues than=
<br>
really being affected badly.<br>
<br>
Professional cold weather behavior:<br>
<br>
"Hey how was your trip out into the snow" ?<br>
"Great, we only lost two men".<br>
<br>
Oh well.. still kidding, but not yet sure i will make it without issues to l=
ondon.<br>
<br>
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 04:36:03PM -0000, tom p. wrote:<br>
&gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>
&gt; From: "Paul Hoffman" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paul.hoffman@vpnc..org">paul=
.hoffman@vpnc.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:18 PM<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; This seems weird. Just arrived at Paddington and walked to the<br>=

&gt; Metropole<br>
&gt; &gt; without even a jacket on, and was regretting only bringing my heav=
y<br>
&gt; &gt; jacket because the weather didn't look right for a light jacket. T=
here<br>
&gt; &gt; is plenty of blue in the sky at the moment. No yellow or amber<br>=

&gt; anywhere.<br>
&gt; &gt; :-) Maybe this too will change.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Paul<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Yes; the forecast for Friday 18:00 in London is 11C; for Saturday max 3=
C<br>
&gt; min 0C; that for Sunday max +2C, min -2C.&nbsp; Depending on where you c=
ome<br>
&gt; from that may be heavy jacket weather, may be swimming trunks:-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The sky may stay blue when it is -2C, it may turn white or black.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Tom Petch<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; --Paul Hoffman<br>
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At the Hilton, the snow has stopped, no accumulation that I can see.

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Likewise.. the snow came down hard this morning where I live and it has =
set. Currently stopped snowing but forecast to come back again later =
this evening and snow overnight in to the morning.

Cross-rail works this weekend so no trains in to London (rail =
replacement bus services.. yeah right!).. the roads do seem OK=E2=80=A6 =
so I will be driving in tonight.. to ensure I am there in the morning =
for IEPG.

Regards
Denesh


> On 17 Mar 2018, at 11:50, Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:
>=20
> Wow, quite some snow where I live south west of London, starting to =
lay.
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> I'd assume the city itself will stay pretty clear, but another few =
hours of this could make things interesting...
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> Tim
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>> On 17 Mar 2018, at 11:16, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> At the Hilton, the snow has stopped, no accumulation that I can see.
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>> Bob
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>>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 10:28 AM, Marie-Jose Montpetit =
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>>> Arriving from Gatwick. Winter wonderland on the way but everything =
was on time.
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Just FYI, the Circle and District lines will be closed on Sat. March 24 for
some unspecified construction/maintenance.  I'm unclear if it affects the
Hammersmith+City.

So to get back to Victoria Station and the Gatwick Express, you'll need to
take a different set of tubes.... Bakerloo+blue one.  It's not a big deal,
you just need an extra five minutes and to be aware of it.

--
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Hi all,

We got a lot more last-minute applications by mentees, so we are looking
for 16(!) more mentors for the following candidates:

1. First timer with interest in TLS, ACME, TRANS
2. First timer with interest in DNS, Security, Distributed Systems
3. First timer with interest in TAPS, PANRG
4. First timer with interest in lpwan, 6lo, roll, t2trg
5. First timer with interest in alto, doh, dprive, dtn
6. First timer with interest in Future Networks, SDN, NFV, IoT,
security, ICN
7. First timer with interest in Internet Congestion Control
8. First timer with interest in Wireless network, Embedded systems
9. First timer with interest in ICN, Edge Computing, Future Internet, SDN
10. Second-fourth meeting participant with interest in dnsop dprive doh
11. First timer with interest in ONAP, OpenDaylight, RESTCONF, Network
Slicing
12. First timer with interest in BIER (Bit Indexed Explicit Replication)
13. First timer with interest in Data compression and httpbis
14. First timer with interest in Routing, Segment Routing
15. First timer with general interest
16. First timer with interest in TCP/UDP protocols for long-latency
transfers and alto, taps, quic

It would be great to keep these first timers engaged and help them have
a good experience, so please let me know if you would be available for
two short mentoring meetings.

Thanks in advance,

Niels


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Dear all,
              I am at the airport and a sign sticked on the ticket machines
say that only heathrow express is running today (March 17th) every half an
hour. Heathrow connect is suspended (at least for today).
Hope it helps.
Regards,

              Diego


On Saturday, March 17, 2018, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> > Probably still cutting it a bit fine, but there is a Heathrow Connect
> > service at 04:42 https://www.heathrowconnect.com/train-times
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> could be viable.  thanks.
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All,


I've seen a few people talking about being interested in going to see Bletc=
hley Park (https://bletchleypark.org.uk/ )  I have myself and a couple othe=
r people interested in going tomorrow and aim to be back in time for the re=
ception.  If folks care to join us, feel free to unicast reply to me and we=
'll try to coordinate.  This is my first time in London, so if the plan bel=
ow looks askew to the more experienced folks, please let me know!


Tentative Plan:
08:00 - Meet in the hotel restaurant for breakfast

08:45 - Walk over to the Circle Line tube station - take that to Euston Squ=
are, walk to the National Rail West Midlands Train, take that to Bletchley =
station, walk to Bletchley Park.  The tube station needs an Oyster card or =
a working contactless payment (see other conversations about this), the Rai=
l will need a one-day off-peak return ticket for =A322.60 (judging by http:=
//ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/Edgware_Road/BLY/tomorrow/10=
00/arr/tomorrow/1615/arr).<http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfa=
res/Edgware_Road/BLY/tomorrow/1000/arr/tomorrow/1615/arr>  The rail ticket =
can be bought at Euston station.

10:20 - Get to Bletchley Park Station, walk to Bletchley Park itself (they =
open at 09:30).  It's =A318.50 for admission.

15:00 - Leave Bletchley Park, catch the 15:16 return train (they run every =
few minutes, so not a huge issue if we miss one, but this is the one to get=
 back to Edgware Road by 16:30-ish).  Connect again at London Euston to the=
 Circle line tube back to Edgware Road.

16:30 - Be back at Hilton in time for the Welcome Reception.


We don't have to return in a pack (people may have other obligations, or wa=
nt to stay longer), but figured going there and having folks to help avoid =
getting lost, etc. may be helpful.


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<p>I've seen a few people talking about being interested in going to see Bl=
etchley Park&nbsp;(<a href=3D"https://bletchleypark.org.uk/">https://bletch=
leypark.org.uk/</a>&nbsp;)&nbsp; I have myself and a couple other people in=
terested in going tomorrow and aim to be back in
 time for the reception.&nbsp; If folks care to join us, feel free to unica=
st reply to me and we'll try to coordinate.&nbsp; This is my first time in =
London, so if the plan below looks askew to the more experienced folks, ple=
ase let me know!<br>
</p>
<p><br>
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<div>Tentative Plan:<br>
</div>
<div>08:00 - Meet in the hotel restaurant for breakfast</div>
<div><span style=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><br>
</div>
<div>08:45 - Walk over to the Circle Line tube station - take that to Eusto=
n Square, walk to the National Rail West Midlands Train, take that to Bletc=
hley station, walk to Bletchley Park.&nbsp; The tube station needs an Oyste=
r card or a working contactless payment
 (see other conversations about this), the Rail will need a one-day off-pea=
k return ticket for =A322.60 (judging by
<a href=3D"http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/Edgware_Road=
/BLY/tomorrow/1000/arr/tomorrow/1615/arr">
http://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/timesandfares/Edgware_Road/BLY/tomorr=
ow/1000/arr/tomorrow/1615/arr).</a>&nbsp; The rail ticket can be bought at =
Euston station.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>10:20 - Get to Bletchley Park Station, walk to Bletchley Park itself (=
they open at 09:30).&nbsp; It's
<span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-siz=
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Nothing posted on Heathrow Express web page (*sigh*), 
but seems as if Heathrow Express trains where out today,
so they did indeed used the Heathrow Connect cars
but without any intermediate stops (just to Paddington),
and they ran them only every half an hour, 03 and 33. 
Our train was packed - connect seems to be half as long as
Express trains.  Same price, but nobody checked.
Couldn't get WiFi. Probably only on proper Express cars.

No idea if it was today only (if so, might have been
St. Patricks Day == drivers must be drunk ?), otherwise,
first heathrow express sales droid is before bagage return
at the airport (at least at terminal 2), check with them. 
Maybe not worth the price if you have to wait 29 minutes worst case.


On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 04:23:13PM +0100, Diego Dujovne wrote:
> Dear all,
>               I am at the airport and a sign sticked on the ticket machines
> say that only heathrow express is running today (March 17th) every half an
> hour. Heathrow connect is suspended (at least for today).
> Hope it helps.
> Regards,
> 
>               Diego
> 
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> On Saturday, March 17, 2018, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Probably still cutting it a bit fine, but there is a Heathrow Connect
> > > service at 04:42 https://www.heathrowconnect.com/train-times
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> > could be viable.  thanks.
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In article <m2605vkt20.wl-randy@psg.com> you write:
>i have a 06:30 flight friday.  i am told first HEX is 05:10, so not
>useful.  is it really taxi/uber time?

First Heathrow Connect leaves Paddington at 0442, gets to Heathrow T23
at 0504.

The alternative is to stay at a hotel at the airport Thursday
night.

R's,
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None of these are great fits for me but I=92ve mentored quite a few newcome=
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On 18 Mar 2018, at 6:40, Tim Chown wrote:

> The snow has laid overnight here on the south coast, 60 or so miles 
> from London.

There is the lightest of dusting on the roofs visible from the Hilton, 
but none on the ground.

--Paul Hoffman


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I should be able to help with #6 and #9

Lixia

> On Mar 17, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Niels ten Oever <mail@nielstenoever.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi all,
>=20
> We got a lot more last-minute applications by mentees, so we are =
looking
> for 16(!) more mentors for the following candidates:
>=20
> 1. First timer with interest in TLS, ACME, TRANS
> 2. First timer with interest in DNS, Security, Distributed Systems
> 3. First timer with interest in TAPS, PANRG
> 4. First timer with interest in lpwan, 6lo, roll, t2trg
> 5. First timer with interest in alto, doh, dprive, dtn
> 6. First timer with interest in Future Networks, SDN, NFV, IoT,
> security, ICN
> 7. First timer with interest in Internet Congestion Control
> 8. First timer with interest in Wireless network, Embedded systems
> 9. First timer with interest in ICN, Edge Computing, Future Internet, =
SDN
> 10. Second-fourth meeting participant with interest in dnsop dprive =
doh
> 11. First timer with interest in ONAP, OpenDaylight, RESTCONF, Network
> Slicing
> 12. First timer with interest in BIER (Bit Indexed Explicit =
Replication)
> 13. First timer with interest in Data compression and httpbis
> 14. First timer with interest in Routing, Segment Routing
> 15. First timer with general interest
> 16. First timer with interest in TCP/UDP protocols for long-latency
> transfers and alto, taps, quic
>=20
> It would be great to keep these first timers engaged and help them =
have
> a good experience, so please let me know if you would be available for
> two short mentoring meetings.
>=20
> Thanks in advance,
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> Niels
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Dear all,

A sincere thank you to all the volunteers that reached out to us. In
no-time we were able to link mentees to mentors. It really shows the
commitment of the community, thanks again for that!

We are still looking for experts that can help us out with the Quick
Connections session (formerly known as speed mentoring). If you would be
willing to have short conversations with newcomers and them on their way
for an hour, please come to Room Sandringham at 14:50. It will take
until 16:00.

Have a great day.

Niels


On 03/18/2018 12:08 AM, Rosen, Brian wrote:
> None of these are great fits for me but I’ve mentored quite a few newcomers over the years so give me anyone you don’t have a match for
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Niels ten Oever <mail@nielstenoever.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We got a lot more last-minute applications by mentees, so we are looking
>> for 16(!) more mentors for the following candidates:
>>
>> 1. First timer with interest in TLS, ACME, TRANS
>> 2. First timer with interest in DNS, Security, Distributed Systems
>> 3. First timer with interest in TAPS, PANRG
>> 4. First timer with interest in lpwan, 6lo, roll, t2trg
>> 5. First timer with interest in alto, doh, dprive, dtn
>> 6. First timer with interest in Future Networks, SDN, NFV, IoT,
>> security, ICN
>> 7. First timer with interest in Internet Congestion Control
>> 8. First timer with interest in Wireless network, Embedded systems
>> 9. First timer with interest in ICN, Edge Computing, Future Internet, SDN
>> 10. Second-fourth meeting participant with interest in dnsop dprive doh
>> 11. First timer with interest in ONAP, OpenDaylight, RESTCONF, Network
>> Slicing
>> 12. First timer with interest in BIER (Bit Indexed Explicit Replication)
>> 13. First timer with interest in Data compression and httpbis
>> 14. First timer with interest in Routing, Segment Routing
>> 15. First timer with general interest
>> 16. First timer with interest in TCP/UDP protocols for long-latency
>> transfers and alto, taps, quic
>>
>> It would be great to keep these first timers engaged and help them have
>> a good experience, so please let me know if you would be available for
>> two short mentoring meetings.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Niels
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Hi Lixia,

Thanks a lot, we were already able to make all matches for the mentoring
but we are still looking for experts that can help us out with the Quick
Connections session (formerly known as speed mentoring). If you would be
willing to have short conversations with newcomers and help them on
their way for an hour, please come to Room Sandringham at 14:50. It will
take until 16:00.

Best,

Niels

On 03/18/2018 10:09 AM, Lixia Zhang wrote:
> I should be able to help with #6 and #9
> 
> Lixia
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Niels ten Oever <mail@nielstenoever.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We got a lot more last-minute applications by mentees, so we are looking
>> for 16(!) more mentors for the following candidates:
>>
>> 1. First timer with interest in TLS, ACME, TRANS
>> 2. First timer with interest in DNS, Security, Distributed Systems
>> 3. First timer with interest in TAPS, PANRG
>> 4. First timer with interest in lpwan, 6lo, roll, t2trg
>> 5. First timer with interest in alto, doh, dprive, dtn
>> 6. First timer with interest in Future Networks, SDN, NFV, IoT,
>> security, ICN
>> 7. First timer with interest in Internet Congestion Control
>> 8. First timer with interest in Wireless network, Embedded systems
>> 9. First timer with interest in ICN, Edge Computing, Future Internet, SDN
>> 10. Second-fourth meeting participant with interest in dnsop dprive doh
>> 11. First timer with interest in ONAP, OpenDaylight, RESTCONF, Network
>> Slicing
>> 12. First timer with interest in BIER (Bit Indexed Explicit Replication)
>> 13. First timer with interest in Data compression and httpbis
>> 14. First timer with interest in Routing, Segment Routing
>> 15. First timer with general interest
>> 16. First timer with interest in TCP/UDP protocols for long-latency
>> transfers and alto, taps, quic
>>
>> It would be great to keep these first timers engaged and help them have
>> a good experience, so please let me know if you would be available for
>> two short mentoring meetings.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Niels
>>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 8:29 AM
> On 18 Mar 2018, at 6:40, Tim Chown wrote:
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> > The snow has laid overnight here on the south coast, 60 or so miles
> > from London.
>
> There is the lightest of dusting on the roofs visible from the Hilton,
> but none on the ground.

Teletext tells me

Heathrow Connect all trains cancelled
Heathrow Express reduced service

(but the termperature is rising, tomorrow could be a balmy 5C, snow gone
from London and we will be wondering again why the capital city could
not cope)

Tom Petch






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Just came in. Heathrow Express running every half hour. My train was a Conn=
ect train but did not stop anywhere but Paddington. No Connect service.=20

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I can join the Quick Connection session if you still need more people=2E I'=
m a security guy=2E Let me know=2E=20

On March 18, 2018 9:17:30 AM GMT, Niels ten Oever <mail@nielstenoever=2Ene=
t> wrote:
>Hi Lixia,
>
>Thanks a lot, we were already able to make all matches for the
>mentoring
>but we are still looking for experts that can help us out with the
>Quick
>Connections session (formerly known as speed mentoring)=2E If you would
>be
>willing to have short conversations with newcomers and help them on
>their way for an hour, please come to Room Sandringham at 14:50=2E It
>will
>take until 16:00=2E
>
>Best,
>
>Niels
>
>On 03/18/2018 10:09 AM, Lixia Zhang wrote:
>> I should be able to help with #6 and #9
>>=20
>> Lixia
>>=20
>>> On Mar 17, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Niels ten Oever
><mail@nielstenoever=2Enet> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We got a lot more last-minute applications by mentees, so we are
>looking
>>> for 16(!) more mentors for the following candidates:
>>>
>>> 1=2E First timer with interest in TLS, ACME, TRANS
>>> 2=2E First timer with interest in DNS, Security, Distributed Systems
>>> 3=2E First timer with interest in TAPS, PANRG
>>> 4=2E First timer with interest in lpwan, 6lo, roll, t2trg
>>> 5=2E First timer with interest in alto, doh, dprive, dtn
>>> 6=2E First timer with interest in Future Networks, SDN, NFV, IoT,
>>> security, ICN
>>> 7=2E First timer with interest in Internet Congestion Control
>>> 8=2E First timer with interest in Wireless network, Embedded systems
>>> 9=2E First timer with interest in ICN, Edge Computing, Future
>Internet, SDN
>>> 10=2E Second-fourth meeting participant with interest in dnsop dprive
>doh
>>> 11=2E First timer with interest in ONAP, OpenDaylight, RESTCONF,
>Network
>>> Slicing
>>> 12=2E First timer with interest in BIER (Bit Indexed Explicit
>Replication)
>>> 13=2E First timer with interest in Data compression and httpbis
>>> 14=2E First timer with interest in Routing, Segment Routing
>>> 15=2E First timer with general interest
>>> 16=2E First timer with interest in TCP/UDP protocols for long-latency
>>> transfers and alto, taps, quic
>>>
>>> It would be great to keep these first timers engaged and help them
>have
>>> a good experience, so please let me know if you would be available
>for
>>> two short mentoring meetings=2E
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Niels
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 101attendees mailing list
>>> 101attendees@ietf=2Eorg
>>> https://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/101attendees
>>=20
>
>_______________________________________________
>101attendees mailing list
>101attendees@ietf=2Eorg
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<html><head></head><body>I can join the Quick Connection session if you sti=
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<pre class=3D"k9mail">Hi Lixia,<br><br>Thanks a lot, we were already able =
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ts that can help us out with the Quick<br>Connections session (formerly kno=
wn as speed mentoring)=2E If you would be<br>willing to have short conversa=
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,<br><br>Niels<br><br>On 03/18/2018 10:09 AM, Lixia Zhang wrote:<br><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-lef=
t: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> I should be able to help with #6=
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argin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1=
ex;"> On Mar 17, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Niels ten Oever &lt;mail@nielstenoever=
=2Enet&gt; wrote:<br><br> Hi all,<br><br> We got a lot more last-minute app=
lications by mentees, so we are looking<br> for 16(!) more mentors for the =
following candidates:<br><br> 1=2E First timer with interest in TLS, ACME, =
TRANS<br> 2=2E First timer with interest in DNS, Security, Distributed Syst=
ems<br> 3=2E First timer with interest in TAPS, PANRG<br> 4=2E First timer =
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If your onward flight leaves from T5 at Heathrow, you *have* to be in =
the queue for security theatre no later than 35 minutes before the =
scheduled departure time.

=
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/information/airport-information/londo=
n-heathrow-airport/heathrow-t5

Boarding passes get scanned at automated barriers in front of the queues =
for the security area. If you show up at these barriers after this 35 =
minute cut-off, they won=E2=80=99t open and you won=E2=80=99t be allowed =
to get airside. Unless one of T5=E2=80=99s security goons spontaneously =
transforms into a sentient human life form that takes pity on you. Which =
is most improbable.

I don=E2=80=99t know or care if similar measures apply at the other LHR =
terminals or not. Best check that with the relevant airline(s).


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> I don=E2=80=99t know or care if similar measures apply at the other LHR=
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> terminals or not. Best check that with the relevant airline(s).

Yep, it=E2=80=99s called (somewhat sinisterly) =E2=80=9Csecurity conformanc=
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LHR.

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Subject: Re: [101attendees] Social event ticket?/ please contact Alex Galis/ Many Cheers and Thanks
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Hi All

Does anyone have one extra Social event ticket?
Please contact Alex Galis (a.galis@ucl.ac.uk;m +44 7768493095) 
Thank you in advance
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As is my general habit, here is a copy of the IETF 101 meeting agenda, =
formatted to fit double-sided on a single sheet of A4 (or US Letter) =
paper, with space on the right for handwritten annotations.

Microsoft Word doc and a PDF file are attached.

If it=E2=80=99s the same as previous meetings, the IETF Terminal Room =
printer can print double-sided.

Stuart Cheshire


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Are the minotaur and goblin king back in their places as well?

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A classic

https://youtu.be/nXFpog3B8hY

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Whow. I totally felt the Hilton was a dungeon back at '89,
but i completely missed out knowing this video clip (might
have overlooked the attendee list at the wrong time).

This is sooo cool! Kudos to the registration team!

Thanks for reposting.

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 10:59:48AM +0100, Joao Damas wrote:
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Hi Folks-

I've posted the order for tonight's talks on the BoF wiki:

https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#HotRFCLightningTalks.

The event starts at 1800 tonight in the Balmoral room.  Will probably 
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Hi folks, we could use a couple more mentors.  Specifically:

- 2 are interested in QUIC
- another is interested in IoT related technologies

Finally, if there is someone from huawei that could help walk a fellow
employee through the IETF hoops, that would be wonderful as well.

Please mail mentoring-coordinators@ietf.org if you're available to help
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Aaron,

Thank you very much for organizing this so well.  I thought the hotRFC
talks went really well.  It was great to hear such a variety of interesting
ideas.

I do agree that augmenting the wiki would be useful.

Regards,
Alia


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> On Mar 18, 2018, at 20:56, Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com>
> wrote:
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> > Thanks for organizing this. It was a lot of fun and also since it was
> cross-WG/RG was allowing us to see what is happening outside our focus of
> interest!
>
> +1
>
> The format was near perfect and the SNR was surprisingly high!
>
> Collecting the =E2=80=9Cwhere can we continue the conversation=E2=80=9D i=
nformation in the
> Wiki would make followup a bit easier.
>
> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Aaron,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
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 talks went really well.=C2=A0 It was great to hear such a variety of inter=
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lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 8:59 PM Carsten=
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&gt; Thanks for organizing this. It was a lot of fun and also since it was =
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nterest!<br>
<br>
+1<br>
<br>
The format was near perfect and the SNR was surprisingly high!<br>
<br>
Collecting the =E2=80=9Cwhere can we continue the conversation=E2=80=9D inf=
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Hi,

I know I am extremely late, but does anyone have two social event =
tickets available? Please respond off-list.

Cheers!
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++1

I thought the presenters did a good job managing the 5 minutes too.  Not
easy to do given the topics.

Thanks for organizing



On Mar 18, 2018 9:07 PM, "Alia Atlas" <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:

> Aaron,
>
> Thank you very much for organizing this so well.  I thought the hotRFC
> talks went really well.  It was great to hear such a variety of interesti=
ng
> ideas.
>
> I do agree that augmenting the wiki would be useful.
>
> Regards,
> Alia
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>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 8:59 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
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>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 20:56, Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks for organizing this. It was a lot of fun and also since it was
>> cross-WG/RG was allowing us to see what is happening outside our focus o=
f
>> interest!
>>
>> +1
>>
>> The format was near perfect and the SNR was surprisingly high!
>>
>> Collecting the =E2=80=9Cwhere can we continue the conversation=E2=80=9D =
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>> the Wiki would make followup a bit easier.
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>> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">++1</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>I =
thought the presenters did a good job managing the 5 minutes too.=C2=A0 Not=
 easy to do given the topics.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto">Thanks for organizing</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Mar 18, 2018 9:07 PM, &quot;Alia Atlas&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ak=
atlas@gmail.com">akatlas@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Aaron,<div dir=3D"auto=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thank you very much for organizing this so we=
ll.=C2=A0 I thought the hotRFC talks went really well.=C2=A0 It was great t=
o hear such a variety of interesting ideas.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">I do agree that augmenting the wiki would be useful.</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"=
auto">Alia</div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun,=
 Mar 18, 2018, 8:59 PM Carsten Bormann &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cabo@tzi.org" =
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"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
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ailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">marie@mjm=
ontpetit.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks for organizing this. It was a lot of fun and also since it was =
cross-WG/RG was allowing us to see what is happening outside our focus of i=
nterest!<br>
<br>
+1<br>
<br>
The format was near perfect and the SNR was surprisingly high!<br>
<br>
Collecting the =E2=80=9Cwhere can we continue the conversation=E2=80=9D inf=
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Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten<br>
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N.B. I’ve added download links for the slides for each talk to the 
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> I've posted the order for tonight's talks on the BoF wiki:
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> https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#HotRFCLightningTalks.
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Thanks, Alia.  Slide links posted =

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gTalks). =

  If we do this again we might try to get some space in the meeting =

materials site.

--aaron

On 18 Mar 2018, at 21:07, Alia Atlas wrote:

> Aaron,
>
> Thank you very much for organizing this so well.  I thought the hotRFC
> talks went really well.  It was great to hear such a variety of =

> interesting
> ideas.
>
> I do agree that augmenting the wiki would be useful.
>
> Regards,
> Alia
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 8:59 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
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>> On Mar 18, 2018, at 20:56, Marie-Jose Montpetit =

>> <marie@mjmontpetit.com>
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>>>
>>> Thanks for organizing this. It was a lot of fun and also since it =

>>> was
>> cross-WG/RG was allowing us to see what is happening outside our =

>> focus of
>> interest!
>>
>> +1
>>
>> The format was near perfect and the SNR was surprisingly high!
>>
>> Collecting the =E2=80=9Cwhere can we continue the conversation=E2=80=9D=
 =

>> information in the
>> Wiki would make followup a bit easier.
>>
>> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
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Thank you very much for organizing this so well.=C2=A0 I thought the hotR=
FC talks went really well.=C2=A0 It was great to hear such a variety of i=
nteresting ideas.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I do=
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<br>
+1<br>
<br>
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> On Mar 18, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Thanks, Alia. Slide links posted here =
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. If we do this again we might try to get some space in the meeting =
materials site.
>=20
> --aaron
>=20

if we do this again, maybe also consider recording it and upload to =
youtube?

> On 18 Mar 2018, at 21:07, Alia Atlas wrote:
>=20
> Aaron,
>=20
> Thank you very much for organizing this so well.  I thought the hotRFC =
talks went really well.  It was great to hear such a variety of =
interesting ideas.
>=20
> I do agree that augmenting the wiki would be useful.
>=20
> Regards,
> Alia
>=20
>=20
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 8:59 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org =
<mailto:cabo@tzi.org>> wrote:
> On Mar 18, 2018, at 20:56, Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com =
<mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for organizing this. It was a lot of fun and also since it =
was cross-WG/RG was allowing us to see what is happening outside our =
focus of interest!
>=20
> +1
>=20
> The format was near perfect and the SNR was surprisingly high!
>=20
> Collecting the =E2=80=9Cwhere can we continue the conversation=E2=80=9D =
information in the Wiki would make followup a bit easier.
>=20
> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
>=20
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class=3D"">On Mar 18, 2018, at 4:23 PM, Aaron Falk &lt;<a =
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gTalks" style=3D"color:#3983C4" class=3D"">here</a>.  If we do this =
again we might try to get some space in the meeting materials =
site.</p><p dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">--aaron</p></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family:sans-serif" =
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class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></div></div></div>if we do this =
again, maybe also consider recording it and upload to =
youtube?</div><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-family:sans-serif" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"white-space:normal" class=3D""><p dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">On 18 =
Mar 2018, at 21:07, Alia Atlas wrote:</p>

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class=3D""><div class=3D"">Aaron,<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Thank you very much for =
organizing this so well.&nbsp; I thought the hotRFC talks went really =
well.&nbsp; It was great to hear such a variety of interesting =
ideas.</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I do agree that augmenting the wiki would be =
useful.</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Alia</div><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, =
8:59 PM Carsten Bormann &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cabo@tzi.org" =
class=3D"">cabo@tzi.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""></div><blockquote =
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&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">marie@mjmontpetit.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
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&gt;<br class=3D"">
&gt; Thanks for organizing this. It was a lot of fun and also since it =
was cross-WG/RG was allowing us to see what is happening outside our =
focus of interest!<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
+1<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
The format was near perfect and the SNR was surprisingly high!<br =
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Collecting the =E2=80=9Cwhere can we continue the conversation=E2=80=9D =
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I hate to complain but the breakfast selection for the IETF is not the same=
 as in the restaurant
I am trying to have the same breakfast as at home while travelling and I wa=
s able to have it in the hotel breakfast restaurant but not in the IETF bre=
akfast room.
For me the Granola was missing but I noticed that other options were also m=
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> On 19 Mar 2018, at 08:28, Roni Even (A) <roni.even@huawei.com> wrote:
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> I hate to complain but the breakfast selection for the IETF is not the sa=
me as in the restaurant
> I am trying to have the same breakfast as at home while travelling and I =
was able to have it in the hotel breakfast restaurant but not in the IETF b=
reakfast room.
> For me the Granola was missing but I noticed that other options were also=
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So there is at least an IETF breakfast provided?  I'd heard that there wasn=
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There isn't a general IETF breakfast, but if you are staying at the
Metropole, the breakfast included with your room is in a conference room
instead of the regular breakfast in the hotel restaurant.

Other than a a couple of choices of cheese, some yogurt & decent choice of
breads, it's a pretty poor breakfast.

Granola or a hot cereal would be a nice addition.

On Mar 19, 2018 8:30 AM, "Tim Chown" <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> wrote:

> > On 19 Mar 2018, at 08:28, Roni Even (A) <roni.even@huawei.com> wrote:
> >
> > I hate to complain but the breakfast selection for the IETF is not the
> same as in the restaurant
> > I am trying to have the same breakfast as at home while travelling and I
> was able to have it in the hotel breakfast restaurant but not in the IETF
> breakfast room.
> > For me the Granola was missing but I noticed that other options were
> also meeting
>
> So there is at least an IETF breakfast provided?  I'd heard that there
> wasn't one this year?
>
> Tim
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<div dir=3D"auto">There isn&#39;t a general IETF breakfast, but if you are =
staying at the Metropole, the breakfast included with your room is in a con=
ference room instead of the regular breakfast in the hotel restaurant.=C2=
=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Other than a a couple of c=
hoices of cheese, some yogurt &amp; decent choice of breads, it&#39;s a pre=
tty poor breakfast.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Gran=
ola or a hot cereal would be a nice addition.</div></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mar 19, 2018 8:30 AM, &quot;Tim =
Chown&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk" target=3D"_blank">T=
im.Chown@jisc.ac.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote clas=
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ding-left:1ex">&gt; On 19 Mar 2018, at 08:28, Roni Even (A) &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:roni.even@huawei.com" target=3D"_blank">roni.even@huawei.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I hate to complain but the breakfast selection for the IETF is not the=
 same as in the restaurant<br>
&gt; I am trying to have the same breakfast as at home while travelling and=
 I was able to have it in the hotel breakfast restaurant but not in the IET=
F breakfast room.<br>
&gt; For me the Granola was missing but I noticed that other options were a=
lso meeting<br>
<br>
So there is at least an IETF breakfast provided?=C2=A0 I&#39;d heard that t=
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<br>
Tim<br>
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On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 08:30:01AM +0000, Tim Chown wrote:
> So there is at least an IETF breakfast provided?  I'd heard that there
> wasn't one this year?

They're serving breakfast in the code lounge today. I assumed it was
for general IETF consumption, but I could be mistaken about that, I
suppose.

(As IETF breakfasts go, I thought it was quite good.)

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Hi,

> Op 19 mrt. 2018, om 08:28 heeft Roni Even (A) <roni.even@huawei.com> =
het volgende geschreven:
>=20
> I hate to complain but the breakfast selection for the IETF is not the =
same as in the restaurant
> I am trying to have the same breakfast as at home while travelling and =
I was able to have it in the hotel breakfast restaurant but not in the =
IETF breakfast room.
> For me the Granola was missing but I noticed that other options were =
also meeting

I noticed people being rejected from the "normal" breakfast area. It =
annoyed me a lot, so I complained to the manager. He assured me that =
sending IETF people to a separate area was just a suggestion, because =
the main breakfast area is too small for all the attendees. I understand =
the logistics, but what the Hilton people at the door were doing was not =
even close to "suggesting" and more like "rejecting". He denied that =
they did that, but having people arguing for minutes at the door before =
they were allowed in, and only after they promised to take of their IETF =
badge, clearly showed otherwise.

Cheers,
Sander


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This is not an IETF breakfast but the hotel breakfast that is part of the r=
oom charge


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On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 08:30:01AM +0000, Tim Chown wrote:
> So there is at least an IETF breakfast provided?  I'd heard that there=20
> wasn't one this year?

They're serving breakfast in the code lounge today. I assumed it was for ge=
neral IETF consumption, but I could be mistaken about that, I suppose.

(As IETF breakfasts go, I thought it was quite good.)

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>From <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/101codelounge>

> This will allow for groups to informally meet to brainstorm, code,
> and test ideas in the Code Lounge, a portion of the IETF lounge set
> aside for such activities. The area will be designated by signage.

There's no sign of any such area, and the lounge is also being fully
utilised for breakfast making the 08:00 slot useless.

Ray





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You should have been given a sheet at checkin which explains the =
breakfast options.
It says: "Please note that you are able to use the Fiamma restaurant for =
breakfast
on any morning, but you may have to wait for a table."

The non-restaurant room, Sovreign, is indeed meant to be an "overflow" =
area for IETF attendees
who are also hotel guests, but that does not mean the restaurant should =
be sending
people away from Fiamma to Sovreign.

I am sure the secretariat have already been notified and things will be =
better in the morning.

Cheers,

Ole Jacobsen


> On 19 Mar 2018, at 08:28, Roni Even (A) <roni.even@huawei.com> wrote:
>=20
> I hate to complain but the breakfast selection for the IETF is not the =
same as in the restaurant
> I am trying to have the same breakfast as at home while travelling and =
I was able to have it in the hotel breakfast restaurant but not in the =
IETF breakfast room.
> For me the Granola was missing but I noticed that other options were =
also meeting
> Roni
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=46rom what I can see if the goal was to rise interest on the topics =
it=E2=80=99s been successful based on my own statistics.=20
> On Mar 18, 2018, at 11:23 PM, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Thanks, Alia. Slide links posted here =
<https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#HotRFCLightningTalks>=
. If we do this again we might try to get some space in the meeting =
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> --aaron
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> On 18 Mar 2018, at 21:07, Alia Atlas wrote:
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> Aaron,
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> Thank you very much for organizing this so well.  I thought the hotRFC =
talks went really well.  It was great to hear such a variety of =
interesting ideas.
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> I do agree that augmenting the wiki would be useful.
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> Regards,
> Alia
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> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 8:59 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org =
<mailto:cabo@tzi.org>> wrote:
> On Mar 18, 2018, at 20:56, Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@mjmontpetit.com =
<mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for organizing this. It was a lot of fun and also since it =
was cross-WG/RG was allowing us to see what is happening outside our =
focus of interest!
>=20
> +1
>=20
> The format was near perfect and the SNR was surprisingly high!
>=20
> Collecting the =E2=80=9Cwhere can we continue the conversation=E2=80=9D =
information in the Wiki would make followup a bit easier.
>=20
> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten
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class=3D"">=46rom what I can see if the goal was to rise interest on the =
topics it=E2=80=99s been successful based on my own statistics.&nbsp;<br =
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Mar 18, 2018, at 11:23 PM, Aaron Falk &lt;<a =
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style=3D"white-space:normal" class=3D""><p dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Thanks,=
 Alia.  Slide links posted <a =
href=3D"https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#HotRFCLightnin=
gTalks" style=3D"color:#3983C4" class=3D"">here</a>.  If we do this =
again we might try to get some space in the meeting materials =
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">Aaron,<div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Thank you very much for =
organizing this so well.&nbsp; I thought the hotRFC talks went really =
well.&nbsp; It was great to hear such a variety of interesting =
ideas.</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">I do agree that augmenting the wiki would be =
useful.</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Alia</div><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, =
8:59 PM Carsten Bormann &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cabo@tzi.org" =
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solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mar 18, 2018, at 20:56, Marie-Jose Montpetit =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marie@mjmontpetit.com" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">marie@mjmontpetit.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
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&gt; Thanks for organizing this. It was a lot of fun and also since it =
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<br class=3D"">
+1<br class=3D"">
<br class=3D"">
The format was near perfect and the SNR was surprisingly high!<br =
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<br class=3D"">
Collecting the =E2=80=9Cwhere can we continue the conversation=E2=80=9D =
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> On 19 Mar 2018, at 09:55, Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> wrote:
>=20
> You should have been given a sheet at checkin which explains the breakfas=
t options.
> It says: "Please note that you are able to use the Fiamma restaurant for =
breakfast
> on any morning, but you may have to wait for a table."

Ah, I'm not at the Metropole; I am 50 yards or so across the street in the =
King's Hotel (as it's nearly half the price), but was wondering if there wa=
s an IETF breakfast available for all attendees.

> The non-restaurant room, Sovreign, is indeed meant to be an "overflow" ar=
ea for IETF attendees
> who are also hotel guests, but that does not mean the restaurant should b=
e sending
> people away from Fiamma to Sovreign.
>=20
> I am sure the secretariat have already been notified and things will be b=
etter in the morning.

I'm assuming then that there is no general attendee breakfast available, an=
d will instead grab one again from the Marks and Spencer food hall (which i=
s also just opposite the hotel).

Tim

> Cheers,
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> Ole Jacobsen
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>> On 19 Mar 2018, at 08:28, Roni Even (A) <roni.even@huawei.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> I hate to complain but the breakfast selection for the IETF is not the s=
ame as in the restaurant
>> I am trying to have the same breakfast as at home while travelling and I=
 was able to have it in the hotel breakfast restaurant but not in the IETF =
breakfast room.
>> For me the Granola was missing but I noticed that other options were als=
o meeting
>> Roni
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Correct, there is no IETF-provided breakfast, it comes with your
hotel room at the Metropole or not if you are staying elsewhere.

Ole




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> On 19 Mar 2018, at 10:18, Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> wrote:
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> Correct, there is no IETF-provided breakfast, it comes with your
> hotel room at the Metropole or not if you are staying elsewhere.

It's probably a good thing; I remember the days of free IETF breakfasts sto=
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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> wrote:
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> You should have been given a sheet at checkin which explains the =
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> It says: "Please note that you are able to use the Fiamma restaurant =
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> on any morning, but you may have to wait for a table.=E2=80=9D

I was not given a sheet at checkin.

> The non-restaurant room, Sovreign, is indeed meant to be an "overflow" =
area for IETF attendees
> who are also hotel guests, but that does not mean the restaurant =
should be sending
> people away from Fiamma to Sovreign.

But as several had reported, they were doing it actively this morning.

>=20
> I am sure the secretariat have already been notified and things will =
be better in the morning.

I am sure the secretariat will fix it too.

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there is this on the agenda this evening:

    18:00-20:00       Sovereign           1W  Hackdemo Happy Hour 	


Is there an agenda or description?

thanks,

=JeffH


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Hello,

That sheet was quite useful. I was admitted to the proper restaurant as soo=
n as I showed the sheet (before that, the person at the door argued quite f=
orcefully).

However even at the restaurant, the breakfast was quite poor compared to pr=
evious IETF hotels (e.g. Swissotel in Singapore).

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018, at 12:36, Dave Thaler wrote:
> Bob Hinden writes:
> > > On Mar 19, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> wrote:
> > >=20
> > > You should have been given a sheet at checkin which explains the brea=
kfast options.
> > > It says: "Please note that you are able to use the Fiamma restaurant=
=20
> > > for breakfast on any morning, but you may have to wait for a table.=
=E2=80=9D
> >
> > I was not given a sheet at checkin.
>=20
> Right, neither was I when I checked in on Saturday.=20
> Yesterday I even had to go ask the checkin desk where breakfast was and=20
> they checked a sheet but did not offer me one.
>=20
> Dave
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> there is this on the agenda this evening:
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>     18:00-20:00       Sovereign           1W  Hackdemo Happy Hour
>=20
>=20
> Is there an agenda or description?
>=20
> thanks,
>=20
> =3DJeffH

Hi,

The Wiki has a list of demos available at https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/m=
eeting/wiki/101hackdemo

Regards
Lucas


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On 19 Mar 2018, at 10:50, Ville Hallivuori wrote:

> However even at the restaurant, the breakfast was quite poor compared 
> to previous IETF hotels (e.g. Swissotel in Singapore).

Not a fair comparison.  NOTHING can be better than the breakfast at the 
Swissotel in Singapore!

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I=E2=80=99ve got a collection of old one =C2=A3 coins that I want to =
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=99s not a huge problem but I would like to trade them in if possible.

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Not true. IIRC, their bacon was underdone. Then again, at least they had
something recognizable as bacon.


On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 19 Mar 2018, at 10:50, Ville Hallivuori wrote:
>
> However even at the restaurant, the breakfast was quite poor compared to
> previous IETF hotels (e.g. Swissotel in Singapore).
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> Not a fair comparison. NOTHING can be better than the breakfast at the
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Not true. IIRC, their bacon was underdone. Then again, at =
least they had something recognizable as bacon.<br><br></div><div class=3D"=
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M, Aaron Falk <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aaron.falk@gmail.com"=
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<blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid #777;color:#777;margin:0 0 5px;p=
adding-left:5px"><p dir=3D"auto">However even at the restaurant, the breakf=
ast was quite poor compared to previous IETF hotels (e.g. Swissotel in Sing=
apore).</p>
</blockquote></span><p dir=3D"auto">Not a fair comparison.  NOTHING can be =
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Hi,

> Op 19 mrt. 2018, om 11:09 heeft Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com> het =
volgende geschreven:
>=20
> I=E2=80=99ve got a collection of old one =C2=A3 coins that I want to =
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but that most banks won=E2=80=99t accept them unless you have an =
account. Any ideas for non-UK citizens? I only have 10 of them so it=E2=80=
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My girlfriend has a UK bank account. I can ask her to do a swap for you.

Cheers,
Sander


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I successfully traded my old =C2=A310 notes at the nearby HSBC. I was on li=
ne
for about 15 minutes, though. I don't know if this applies to coins.

Kyle

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> I=E2=80=99ve got a collection of old one =C2=A3 coins that I want to exch=
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> only have 10 of them so it=E2=80=99s not a huge problem but I would like =
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I successfully traded my old =C2=A310 notes at the ne=
arby HSBC. I was on line for about 15 minutes, though. I don&#39;t know if =
this applies to coins.<br><br></div>Kyle<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Tom Pusa=
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ut that most banks won=E2=80=99t accept them unless you have an account. An=
y ideas for non-UK citizens? I only have 10 of them so it=E2=80=99s not a h=
uge problem but I would like to trade them in if possible.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Tom<br>
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> Not a fair comparison.  NOTHING can be better than the breakfast at
> the Swissotel in Singapore!

beijing, yokohma, ...  but expecting london to compete with asia is a
bit of a stretch.

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On Mon, 19 Mar 2018, Ville Hallivuori wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> That sheet was quite useful. I was admitted to the proper restaurant 
> as soon as I showed the sheet (before that, the person at the door 
> argued quite forcefully).
> 
> However even at the restaurant, the breakfast was quite poor 
> compared to previous IETF hotels (e.g. Swissotel in Singapore).
> 

There are many Great things about Britain, but food is not 
traditionally known as one of them. Neither is plumbing as you
may have noticed, the ability to deal with sub-centimeter snow
fall, air conditioning in the summer.

Enjoy the beer, try a pub!

Ole


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I've got about 16 pounds to convert as well.   Looking for the same help.

Thanks,
Paul


On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:12 AM, Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> wrote:

> I successfully traded my old =C2=A310 notes at the nearby HSBC. I was on =
line
> for about 15 minutes, though. I don't know if this applies to coins.
>
> Kyle
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>> I=E2=80=99ve got a collection of old one =C2=A3 coins that I want to exc=
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>> ones. I=E2=80=99m told you have to take them to a bank but that most ban=
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>> accept them unless you have an account. Any ideas for non-UK citizens? I
>> only have 10 of them so it=E2=80=99s not a huge problem but I would like=
 to trade
>> them in if possible.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;ve got about 16 pounds to convert as well.=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0Looking for the same help.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Paul</di=
v><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:12 AM, Kyle Rose <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:krose@krose.org" target=3D"_blank">krose@krose.org</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I succe=
ssfully traded my old =C2=A310 notes at the nearby HSBC. I was on line for =
about 15 minutes, though. I don&#39;t know if this applies to coins.<span c=
lass=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span c=
lass=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">Kyle<br></font></span></div><div cl=
ass=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Tom Pusateri <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pusateri@bangj.com" target=3D"_blank">pusate=
ri@bangj.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I=E2=
=80=99ve got a collection of old one =C2=A3 coins that I want to exchange f=
or new ones. I=E2=80=99m told you have to take them to a bank but that most=
 banks won=E2=80=99t accept them unless you have an account. Any ideas for =
non-UK citizens? I only have 10 of them so it=E2=80=99s not a huge problem =
but I would like to trade them in if possible.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Tom<br>
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 > The Wiki has a list of demos available at 
https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/101hackdemo

Thanks :)

it's unfortunate the Agenda does not link to the above...


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Is there going to be a recording of this session? Unfortunately I won't be =
able to attend it, but would be interested in the presentations.=20

KR, Nils.=20

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> there is this on the agenda this evening:
>=20
>     18:00-20:00       Sovereign           1W  Hackdemo Happy Hour
>=20
>=20
> Is there an agenda or description?
>=20
> thanks,
>=20
> =3DJeffH

Hi,

The Wiki has a list of demos available at https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/m=
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FWIW,

>
> I'm assuming then that there is no general attendee breakfast available,
> and will instead grab one again from the Marks and Spencer food hall (which
> is also just opposite the hotel).


Sure, and if you're walking from the Paddington direction, a lot of people
seemed to be stopping at TESCO (think "better than average 7-11), but there
are a BUNCH of restaurants that are cheap, close, and open for breakfast.

I stopped in the Rose Cafe on Praed, about 50 feet from the Point A hotel
where I'm staying, this morning, and hummus, falafel, and olives was 7
pounds. I'm sure it wasn't my only option. (They also do English breakfast,
but where's the fun in that?)

I was actually walking towards another place that was open, one pound sign
in Yelp, and 4 minutes from my hotel, so keeping your eyes open works as
well as searching.

IMO, of course,

Spencer

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ll (which is also just opposite the hotel).</blockquote><div><br></div><div=
>Sure, and if you&#39;re walking from the Paddington direction, a lot of pe=
ople seemed to be stopping at TESCO (think &quot;better than average 7-11),=
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my only option. (They also do English breakfast, but where&#39;s the fun in=
 that?)</div><div><br></div><div>I was actually walking towards another pla=
ce that was open, one pound sign in Yelp, and 4 minutes from my hotel, so k=
eeping your eyes open works as well as searching.</div><div><br></div><div>=
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Hi Everyone!

Thank you for your feedback regarding breakfast. As always, the best way =
to communicate issues is to send a ticket to mtd@ietf.org. Below is some =
detailed information regarding breakfast in Sovereign and Fiamma.=20

1. Breakfast in Sovereign is for guests at the Metropole. A coffee break =
is provided for all other IETF attendees in the Mezzanine Foyer, Monarch =
Suite Foyer and King=92s Suite Foyer.=20

2. I have communicated the issue regarding the food choices for =
breakfast to the hotel. They are checking the menu of the breakfast in =
Fiamma with what they are providing in Sovereign and will make =
adjustments. Please note that in Sovereign you can order eggs or any =
other items you would order in Fiamma from the servers.

3. There was an issue with people being directed away from Fiamma this =
morning. I have reiterated to the hotel that IETF attendees staying at =
the Metropole must have the choice to eat in either Fiamma or Sovereign. =
I will monitor this tomorrow morning.=20

4. The Code Lounge sign is displayed in Sovereign. The three tables upon =
entry are Code Lounge tables and will be roped off to ensure access even =
when breakfast is happening.

5. I will check with the front desk why the IETF welcome information =
letter is not being distributed and ensure they correct that.

Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns!

Thank you,
Stephanie McCammon
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On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:22 , Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:

Ole,

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Ole Jacobsen <olejacobsen@me.com> wrote:
>=20
> You should have been given a sheet at checkin which explains the =
breakfast options.
> It says: "Please note that you are able to use the Fiamma restaurant =
for breakfast
> on any morning, but you may have to wait for a table.=94

I was not given a sheet at checkin.

> The non-restaurant room, Sovreign, is indeed meant to be an "overflow" =
area for IETF attendees
> who are also hotel guests, but that does not mean the restaurant =
should be sending
> people away from Fiamma to Sovreign.

But as several had reported, they were doing it actively this morning.

>=20
> I am sure the secretariat have already been notified and things will =
be better in the morning.

I am sure the secretariat will fix it too.

Bob


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I have had delicious breakfasts at Patisserie Valerie 256 Edgware Rd, =
London W2 1DS just across the street.


> On Mar 19, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF =
<spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> FWIW,
>=20
> I'm assuming then that there is no general attendee breakfast =
available, and will instead grab one again from the Marks and Spencer =
food hall (which is also just opposite the hotel).
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> Sure, and if you're walking from the Paddington direction, a lot of =
people seemed to be stopping at TESCO (think "better than average 7-11), =
but there are a BUNCH of restaurants that are cheap, close, and open for =
breakfast.=20
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> I stopped in the Rose Cafe on Praed, about 50 feet from the Point A =
hotel where I'm staying, this morning, and hummus, falafel, and olives =
was 7 pounds. I'm sure it wasn't my only option. (They also do English =
breakfast, but where's the fun in that?)
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> I was actually walking towards another place that was open, one pound =
sign in Yelp, and 4 minutes from my hotel, so keeping your eyes open =
works as well as searching.
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</span>I'm assuming then that there is no general attendee breakfast =
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Hi,
        We're continuing with the informal Open source routing @ ietf 
meetup. Anyone interested in joining a "bring your own lunch" gathering
of folks using/building open source routing code, please drop in to
"Richmond/Chelsea/Tower" on Thursday during lunch (noon).  There is no 
agenda or slides. Please feel free to bring a topic that you'd like to 
discuss or just come and listen.

Cheers,
Lou

[1] 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/floor-plan?room=richmond-chelsea-tower#east-wing-1st-floor-1e


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I do.  In MODERN now, will be at DMARC late this afternoon.

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I want black pudding. If the IETF secretariat can arrange black pudding for
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>I've got about 16 pounds to convert as well.   Looking for the same help.

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> I have an HSBC UK bank account and can probably help.

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service at the pub, restaurant, ...  This is how I converted my old coins,
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If you can choose, ask for the original Spanish one, the rice one! (original name: Morcilla de Burgos!)


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I want black pudding. If the IETF secretariat can arrange black pudding for breakfast, I don't mind where we eat breakfast.

 

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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:01 PM, heasley <heas@shrubbery.net> wrote:
>=20
> Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:53:38AM +0000, ietf@johnlevine.com:
>> In article =
<CAAMqZPvmtsNV9WkhkQAaeYBOiDqWmxTgJL+16ZBx8vjTGjjOBw@mail.gmail.com> you =
write:
>>> -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-
>>> -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-
>>>=20
>>> I've got about 16 pounds to convert as well.   Looking for the same =
help.
>>=20
>> I have an HSBC UK bank account and can probably help.
>=20
> Feel free to donate your old coins as tips to the folks who offer =
wonderful
> service at the pub, restaurant, ...  This is how I converted my old =
coins,
> without waiting in a bank.

That=E2=80=99s a good idea.

I went by the NatWest Bank on Baker Street and they exchanged them no =
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Tom


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The 6-8pm slot overlaps with the last afternoon session...

  - Dmitri.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:01:11AM +0000, Lucas Pardue wrote:
> > there is this on the agenda this evening:
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> >     18:00-20:00       Sovereign           1W  Hackdemo Happy Hour
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> > 
> > Is there an agenda or description?
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> > thanks,
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> Hi,
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> The Wiki has a list of demos available at https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/101hackdemo
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I’ve had a little interest in holding another “Request for 
Conversation” lightning talk session towards the end of the week.  If 
you have an opinion, please complete this Doodle poll before Tuesday 
noon GMT.

https://doodle.com/poll/wezrm487648q3qu3

Thanks,

--aaron

On 18 Mar 2018, at 16:22, Aaron Falk wrote:

> Hi Folks-
>
> I've posted the order for tonight's talks on the BoF wiki:
>
> https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#HotRFCLightningTalks.
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> The event starts at 1800 tonight in the Balmoral room.  Will probably 
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> --aaron

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Hi Flemming,

I am sincerely sorry for your experience during checkin. As you =
discovered, the information you were given by the hotel during your =
checkin process was incorrect. I have informed the hotel that this =
happened and have expressed my concerns, as well as reiterated to them =
to inform their staff of our early departure policy, the appropriate =
contacts within the IETF Secretariat to escalate issues to, and =
generally how to handle issues that may arise.

Again, I apologize for this and please let me know if there is anything =
else we can do.

Sincerely,

Stephanie McCammon
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On Mar 19, 2018, at 13:57 , Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> =
wrote:



On 3/19/18 7:44 AM, Stephanie McCammon wrote:
>=20
> Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns!
>=20

Upon checking in at the Hilton, I informed the front desk that I would =
be leaving a day earlier than my reservation (Friday instead of =
Saturday). I was told that would not be possible since there was a 7-day =
cancellation policy. My complaints and explanation about the difference =
between a cancellation and early check-out were futile and I was =
eventually told to contact the IETF conference organizer - I was given =
the name Johanna Baggen, but no further contact details. While waiting =
for my room, I looked further into the hotel info, and found the =
following at https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/101/hotel/:

<quote>
Early Departure Fee: An early departure fee of =A375 shall be charged to =
all guests that do not notify the front desk within 24 hours of an early =
check-out. Hotel will confirm with guest at the time of their check-in =
the scheduled departure date.
</quote>

When showing this to the front desk, I was once again refused an early =
check-out, but then insisted on talking to a manager, who eventually =
agreed to the early check-out. The front desk person informed me that =
she was merely following the instructions she had been given. Something =
seems wrong here.=20

Thanks=20

-- Flemming=20



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<Nils.Warnke@telekom.de> wrote:
    > Is there going to be a recording of this session? Unfortunately I wo=
n't
    > be able to attend it, but would be interested in the presentations.

It's not really a "session".
It's a space for people to setup stuff and do show and tell.

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Stephanie McCammon writes:
> 5. I will check with the front desk why the IETF welcome information
> letter is not being distributed and ensure they correct that.

If you did not get the letter in check-in, as I too did not, it is now
online at:

https://ietf.org/how/meetings/101/hilton-guest-information-letter/

Thank you, Stephanie!


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I have had black pudding about 50% of the time, considering the number =
of times I have stayed at that particular hotel..

They change things around and do some different thongs every day.

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> On 19 Mar 2018, at 12:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ =
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> If you can choose, ask for the original Spanish one, the rice one! =
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have had black pudding about 50% of the time, considering the number of =
times I have stayed at that particular hotel..<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">They change things around and do some =
different thongs every day.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
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Mar 2018, at 12:51, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ &lt;<a =
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class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">If you can choose, ask for =
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Hi Charles and Ray,

I=E2=80=99ve discussed this with the hotel and they are going to rope =
off the three tables in a row when you walk into Sovereign for the Code =
Loungers who want to use it prior to 09:30. My apologies, this was meant =
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On Mar 19, 2018, at 16:18 , Charles Eckel (eckelcu) <eckelcu@cisco.com> =
wrote:

Hi Ray,

Sorry about that. It seems breakfast runs until 9:30 officially each =
day. I will block off the slot from 800-1000 each day.
There is a sign for the Code Lounge now, but this may move each morning =
during breakfast - we will see.
If you had a large poster during the hackathon room, you should find it =
in the Code Lounge area. Feel free to relocate there as necessary both =
for the Happy Hour tonight as well as for Code Lounge use throughout the =
week.

Cheers,
Charles=20

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Date: Monday, March 19, 2018 at 9:39 AM
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Subject: [101attendees] Code lounge?

> =46rom <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/101codelounge>

> This will allow for groups to informally meet to brainstorm, code,
> and test ideas in the Code Lounge, a portion of the IETF lounge set
> aside for such activities. The area will be designated by signage.

   There's no sign of any such area, and the lounge is also being fully
   utilised for breakfast making the 08:00 slot useless.

   Ray




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i just noticed the travelex atms in the hilton lobby.  travelex is a
massive exchange rate rip-off.  go to one of the nearby banks.

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Yes,
Massive rip-off, used them at the airport.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> i just noticed the travelex atms in the hilton lobby.  travelex is a
> massive exchange rate rip-off.  go to one of the nearby banks.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes,=C2=A0<div>Massive rip-off, used them at the airport.<=
/div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon=
, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Randy Bush <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:randy@psg.com" target=3D"_blank">randy@psg.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">i just noticed the travelex atms in the hilt=
on lobby.=C2=A0 travelex is a<br>
massive exchange rate rip-off.=C2=A0 go to one of the nearby banks.<br>
<br>
randy<br>
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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>=20
> i just noticed the travelex atms in the hilton lobby.  travelex is a
> massive exchange rate rip-off.  go to one of the nearby banks.
>=20
> randy

The ATMs at the local banks (I used CIC) ask you if you want them to do =
the conversion for you (for me the rate was 1.51 =C2=A3 to USD). This =
seemed high and I declined to have them to the conversion and so it =
falls back to my bank doing the conversion (which I don=E2=80=99t know =
what the rate is).

This is a new ATM feature to me and it would be good to know which is =
the better option.

Tom



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> On 19 Mar 2018, at 16:45, Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 4:36 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>> i just noticed the travelex atms in the hilton lobby.  travelex is a
>> massive exchange rate rip-off.  go to one of the nearby banks.
>> randy
> The ATMs at the local banks (I used CIC) ask you if you want them to do th=
e conversion for you (for me the rate was 1.51 =C2=A3 to USD). This seemed h=
igh and I declined to have them to the conversion and so it falls back to my=
 bank doing the conversion (which I don=E2=80=99t know what the rate is).
> This is a new ATM feature to me and it would be good to know which is the b=
etter option.

Letting your bank do the conversion is generally the better option.

Regards
Denesh


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In article <7D148697-31AB-46E0-AC37-A763EDBA388D@bangj.com> you write:
>The ATMs at the local banks (I used CIC) ask you if you want them to do the conversion for you (for me the rate was 1.51 £ to
>USD). This seemed high and I declined to have them to the conversion and so it falls back to my bank doing the conversion (which I
>don’t know what the rate is).
>
>This is a new ATM feature to me and it would be good to know which is the better option.

Oh, that's easy.  You always decline the local conversion because the rate is always awful.

Some places offer the same option on credit card charges.  Same answer.

R's,
John


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If I might offer a guess from the lower stack layers ...

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:52 PM, <ietf@johnlevine.com> wrote:

> In article <7D148697-31AB-46E0-AC37-A763EDBA388D@bangj.com> you write:
> >The ATMs at the local banks (I used CIC) ask you if you want them to do
> the conversion for you (for me the rate was 1.51 =C2=A3 to
> >USD). This seemed high and I declined to have them to the conversion and
> so it falls back to my bank doing the conversion (which I
> >don=E2=80=99t know what the rate is).
> >
> >This is a new ATM feature to me and it would be good to know which is th=
e
> better option.
>
> Oh, that's easy.  You always decline the local conversion because the rat=
e
> is always awful.
>
> Some places offer the same option on credit card charges.  Same answer.


I'm betting that this is because your bank knows how to stay in business
with you as a customer, and banks/forex machines/etc. in London passing out
pounds to people who aren't local know THIS IS MY BIG CHANCE AND THERE IS
NO OTHER CHANCE.

Ka-ching!

That's a hypothesis, but it fits the data I know about.

Spencer

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<div dir=3D"ltr">If I might offer a guess from the lower stack layers ...<d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 19, 201=
8 at 4:52 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ietf@johnlevine.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">ietf@johnlevine.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex">In article &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:7D148697-31AB-46E0-AC3=
7-A763EDBA388D@bangj.com">7D148697-31AB-46E0-AC37-<wbr>A763EDBA388D@bangj.c=
om</a>&gt; you write:<br>
&gt;The ATMs at the local banks (I used CIC) ask you if you want them to do=
 the conversion for you (for me the rate was 1.51 =C2=A3 to<br>
&gt;USD). This seemed high and I declined to have them to the conversion an=
d so it falls back to my bank doing the conversion (which I<br>
&gt;don=E2=80=99t know what the rate is).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This is a new ATM feature to me and it would be good to know which is t=
he better option.<br>
<br>
Oh, that&#39;s easy.=C2=A0 You always decline the local conversion because =
the rate is always awful.<br>
<br>
Some places offer the same option on credit card charges.=C2=A0 Same answer=
.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m betting that this is because your=
 bank knows how to stay in business with you as a customer, and banks/forex=
 machines/etc. in London passing out pounds to people who aren&#39;t local =
know THIS IS MY BIG CHANCE AND THERE IS NO OTHER CHANCE.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Ka-ching!</div><div><br></div><div>That&#39;s a hypothesis, but it f=
its the data I know about.</div><div><br></div><div>Spencer=C2=A0</div></di=
v></div></div>

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> On 19 Mar 2018, at 16:52, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
>=20
> In article <7D148697-31AB-46E0-AC37-A763EDBA388D@bangj.com> you write:
>> The ATMs at the local banks (I used CIC) ask you if you want them to =
do the conversion for you (for me the rate was 1.51 =C2=A3 to
>>=20
>> This is a new ATM feature to me and it would be good to know which is =
the better option.
>=20
> Oh, that's easy.  You always decline the local conversion because the =
rate is always awful.
>=20
> Some places offer the same option on credit card charges.  Same =
answer.

+1. In general. However your bank/card company may charge fees for a =
transaction in a foreign currency. That can sometimes be worse than the =
rip-off exchange rate for paying in your home currency when abroad.

Use bank ATMs to withdraw cash in the UK. Avoid others. They generally =
have worse exchange rates and higher fees.


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> +1. In general. However your bank/card company may charge fees for a 
> transaction in a foreign currency. That can sometimes be worse than the 
> rip-off exchange rate for paying in your home currency when abroad.

That's sort of true but it's a foreign transaction charge, not a foreign 
currency charge.  If you accept local conversion, you get a pessimal 
result of both the lousy rate and your bank's surcharge.

R's,
John


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I have one ticket, will be in the hotel bar area tomorrow at 10 AM or
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Subject: [101attendees] Bletchley Park and the Bombe
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A few people have discussed going to Bletchley Park.

I see there's a new bookable event there from the 24th, on the Bombe, in it=
s original hut, for those staying on in London.

https://bletchleypark.org.uk/whats-on/hut-11a-the-bombe-breakthrough

plus the other exhibits that are running (5 or 6 at any one time), includin=
g one on codebreaking in WW1... see https://bletchleypark.org.uk/whats-on

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The Barclays at 17-18, Spring St near Paddington Station traded out one old
=C2=A310 note for me without hesitation.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:59 PM, Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> wrote:

> I went to the nearest HSBC and they would not exchange old notes.
>
> They said the only place that would if you don=E2=80=99t have an account =
and are a
> foreigner, would be the central Bank of England.
>
>
>
> Other suggestions welcome.
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>
> *From:* 101attendees <101attendees-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Congdon
> *Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2018 11:18 AM
> *To:* Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
> *Cc:* Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com>; 101attendees@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [101attendees] old =C2=A3 coins
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>
>
> I've got about 16 pounds to convert as well.   Looking for the same help.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:12 AM, Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> wrote:
>
> I successfully traded my old =C2=A310 notes at the nearby HSBC. I was on =
line
> for about 15 minutes, though. I don't know if this applies to coins.
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com> wrote=
:
>
> I=E2=80=99ve got a collection of old one =C2=A3 coins that I want to exch=
ange for new
> ones. I=E2=80=99m told you have to take them to a bank but that most bank=
s won=E2=80=99t
> accept them unless you have an account. Any ideas for non-UK citizens? I
> only have 10 of them so it=E2=80=99s not a huge problem but I would like =
to trade
> them in if possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The Barclays at <span class=3D"gmail-section-info-text"><s=
pan class=3D"gmail-widget-pane-link">17-18, Spring St near Paddington Stati=
on traded out one old =C2=A310 note for me without hesitation. <br></span><=
/span></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mo=
n, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:59 PM, Dave Thaler <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:dthaler@microsoft.com" target=3D"_blank">dthaler@microsoft.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-US">
<div class=3D"m_8225842102500366204WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I went to the nearest HSBC and they w=
ould not exchange old notes.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">They said the only place that would i=
f you don=E2=80=99t have an account and are a foreigner, would be the centr=
al Bank of England.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Other suggestions welcome.<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"m_8225842102500366204__MailEndCompose"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;co=
lor:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></a></p>
<span></span>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"> 101attendees &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:101attendees-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">101attendees-bounces@=
ietf.org</a><wbr>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Congdon<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 19, 2018 11:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kyle Rose &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:krose@krose.org" target=3D"_blan=
k">krose@krose.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Tom Pusateri &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pusateri@bangj.com" target=3D=
"_blank">pusateri@bangj.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:101attendees@ietf.or=
g" target=3D"_blank">101attendees@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [101attendees] old =C2=A3 coins<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;ve got about 16 pounds to convert as well.=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0Looking for the same help.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Paul<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:12 AM, Kyle Rose &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:krose@krose.org" target=3D"_blank">krose@krose.org</a>&gt; wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">I successfully traded=
 my old =C2=A310 notes at the nearby HSBC. I was on line for about 15 minut=
es, though. I don&#39;t know if this applies to coins.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"m_8225842102500366204hoenzb"><span st=
yle=3D"color:#888888">Kyle</span></span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Tom Pusateri &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:pusateri@bangj.com" target=3D"_blank">pusateri@bangj.com</=
a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve got a collection of old one =C2=A3 coin=
s that I want to exchange for new ones. I=E2=80=99m told you have to take t=
hem to a bank but that most banks won=E2=80=99t accept them unless you have=
 an account. Any ideas for non-UK citizens? I only have 10 of them
 so it=E2=80=99s not a huge problem but I would like to trade them in if po=
ssible.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Tom<br>
<br>
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2018, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
> I have one ticket, will be in the hotel bar area tomorrow at 10 AM or
> write privately.

Thank for all the interest, ticket claimed.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
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I’m looking for someone already maintaining some of the official 
debian packages
and talk to you about package scripts and getting a package into the 
repos.

If you are one of them, then please contact me.

Thanks,
Martin Winter


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FYI -- the meetecho recording links are not working. I get:

==
Not Found
The requested URL /ietf101/recordings was not found on this server.
==

When I try to go to:

http://www.meetecho.com/ietf101/recordings

or

https://www.meetecho.com/ietf101/recordings

The second url also gives me a certificate error.

/r


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I, too, have to part with my social event ticket.  It can be had for its
original price of 35 USD.  I'll be at the Sandringham this morning (you
can recognize me by my extra large white kippah) or, if that's not
convenient, email me.

  - Dmitri.


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And one more ticket available to FIFO. $35 will do.
I'm at RFC Editor desk till 9:20 a.m. Unicast thereafter.

Regards,
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:37 AM, Dmitri Tikhonov <
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> I, too, have to part with my social event ticket.  It can be had for its
> original price of 35 USD.  I'll be at the Sandringham this morning (you
> can recognize me by my extra large white kippah) or, if that's not
> convenient, email me.
>
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Already claimed.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:42 AM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:

> And one more ticket available to FIFO. $35 will do.
> I'm at RFC Editor desk till 9:20 a.m. Unicast thereafter.
>
> Regards,
> Greg
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:37 AM, Dmitri Tikhonov <
> dtikhonov@litespeedtech.com> wrote:
>
>> I, too, have to part with my social event ticket.  It can be had for its
>> original price of 35 USD.  I'll be at the Sandringham this morning (you
>> can recognize me by my extra large white kippah) or, if that's not
>> convenient, email me.
>>
>>   - Dmitri.
>>
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Dear all,

today Tuesday 20th March, in Hilton Meeting Rooms 1-4, I will be presen=
ting
the M2MSAT project, for 2 hr slot (from 16:30-18:30)

M2MSAT=A0(https://artes.esa.int/projects/m2msat)is a project, funded by=
 ESA,
aiming to study optimisation of IoT application protocols (CoAP and MQT=
T)
for communication over a satellite link. IoT networks will be soon
integrated with terrestrial networks in the 5G scenarios, and it is
fundamental to understand which performance can be achieved, and which
adaptation/improvement are needed for the =A0IoT protocols, not origina=
lly
designed for communication over satellite.
We have simulated the integrated M2M-Sat system combining different too=
ls:
OpenSAND, Californium CoAP, MQTT Mosquito.
We have been investigating the most suitable configurations, integratin=
g
proxy, and brokers (when and where possible) in the architecture, and
tuning different protocol parameters.

I will be happy to see many of you there, discuss together and collect =
your
feedback.

For those that would like to join remotely, we have set up a webex. Her=
e is
the link:

JOIN WEBEX MEETING
https://meetses.webex.com/meetses/j.php?MTID=3Dm8ef2e6c167d11e162178bd6=
4a65fabfc

Meeting number (access code): 977 113 932
Meeting password: Frank_123

Please, feel free to advertise the Info session to anyone that could be=

interested in the topic.


Thank you.
I look forward to meeting you in London.


Best Regards,
Dr. Maria Rita Palattella

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------

Senior R&T Associate
Department 'Environmental Research and Innovation' (ERIN)
Luxembourg Institute of Science and Technology (LIST)
41, rue du Brill
L-4422 Belvaux, Grand-duchy of Luxembourg
email: mariarita.palattella@list.lu, tel: +352 275 888-5055=

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</font><br>
<tt><font size=3D"2">today </font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2"><b>Tuesday =
20th March, </b></font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2">in </font></tt><tt><fo=
nt size=3D"2"><b>Hilton Meeting Rooms 1-4</b></font></tt><tt><font size=
=3D"2">, I will be presenting the M2MSAT project,</font></tt><tt><font =
size=3D"2">&nbsp;for 2 hr slot (from </font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2"><=
b>16:30-18:30</b></font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2">) </font></tt><font s=
ize=3D"3" face=3D"serif"><br>
</font><tt><font size=3D"2"><b><br>
M2MSAT</b></font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2">=A0(</font></tt><a href=3D"h=
ttps://artes.esa.int/projects/m2msat" target=3D"_blank"><tt><font size=3D=
"2" color=3D"#0000FF"><u>https://artes.esa.int/projects/m2msat</u></fon=
t></tt></a><tt><font size=3D"2">)is a project, funded by ESA, aiming to=
 study optimisation of IoT application protocols (CoAP and MQTT) for co=
mmunication over a satellite link. IoT networks will be soon integrated=
 with terrestrial networks in the 5G scenarios, and it is fundamental t=
o understand which performance can be achieved, and which adaptation/im=
provement are needed for the =A0IoT protocols, not originally designed =
for communication over satellite. </font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2"><br>=

We have simulated the integrated M2M-Sat system combining different too=
ls: OpenSAND, Californium CoAP, MQTT Mosquito. <br>
We have been investigating the most suitable configurations, integratin=
g proxy, and brokers (when and where possible) in the architecture, and=
 tuning different protocol parameters.</font></tt><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"serif"><br>
</font><tt><font size=3D"2"><br>
</font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2">I will be happy to see many of you the=
re, discuss together and collect your feedback.</font></tt><font size=3D=
"3" face=3D"serif"><br>
</font><tt><font size=3D"2"><br>
For those that would like to join remotely, we have set up a webex. Her=
e is the link:</font></tt><font size=3D"3" face=3D"serif"><br>
</font><tt><font size=3D"2"><br>
JOIN WEBEX MEETING</font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#0000FF"><u=
><br>
</u></font></tt><a href=3D"https://meetses.webex.com/meetses/j.php?MTID=
=3Dm8ef2e6c167d11e162178bd64a65fabfc" target=3D"_blank"><tt><font size=3D=
"2" color=3D"#0000FF"><u>https://meetses.webex.com/meetses/j.php?MTID=3D=
m8ef2e6c167d11e162178bd64a65fabfc</u></font></tt></a><tt><font size=3D"=
2"><br>
Meeting number (access code): 977 113 932<br>
Meeting password: Frank_123</font></tt><font size=3D"3" face=3D"serif">=
<br>
</font><tt><font size=3D"2"><br>
Please, feel free to advertise the Info session to anyone that could be=
 interested in the topic.<br>
<br>
=A0<br>
Thank you.<br>
I look forward to meeting you in London.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best Regards,<br>
Dr. Maria Rita Palattella<br>
<br>
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------<br>
Senior R&amp;T Associate<br>
Department 'Environmental Research and Innovation' (ERIN)<br>
Luxembourg Institute of Science and Technology (LIST)</font></tt><tt><f=
ont size=3D"2" color=3D"#0000FF"><u><br>
</u></font></tt><a href=3D"https://maps.google.com/?q=3D41,+rue+du+Bril=
l&entry=3Dgmail&source=3Dg"><tt><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#0000FF"><u>4=
1, rue du Brill</u></font></tt></a><tt><font size=3D"2"><br>
L-4422 Belvaux, Grand-duchy of Luxembourg<br>
email: </font></tt><a href=3D"mailto:mariarita.palattella@list.lu" targ=
et=3D"_blank"><tt><font size=3D"2" color=3D"#0000FF"><u>mariarita.palat=
tella@list.lu</u></font></tt></a><tt><font size=3D"2">, tel: +352 275 8=
88-5055</font></tt><font size=3D"3" face=3D"serif"><br>
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The ticket's gone!

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 04:37:31AM -0400, Dmitri Tikhonov wrote:
> I, too, have to part with my social event ticket.  It can be had for its
> original price of 35 USD.  I'll be at the Sandringham this morning (you
> can recognize me by my extra large white kippah) or, if that's not
> convenient, email me.
> 
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Dear all,

today Tuesday 20th March, in Hilton Meeting Rooms 1-4, I will be presen=
ting
the M2MSAT project, for 2 hr slot (from 16:30-18:30)

M2MSAT=A0(https://artes.esa.int/projects/m2msat)is a project, funded by=
 ESA,
aiming to study optimisation of IoT application protocols (CoAP and MQT=
T)
for communication over a satellite link. IoT networks will be soon
integrated with terrestrial networks in the 5G scenarios, and it is
fundamental to understand which performance can be achieved, and which
adaptation/improvement are needed for the =A0IoT protocols, not origina=
lly
designed for communication over satellite.
We have simulated the integrated M2M-Sat system combining different too=
ls:
OpenSAND, Californium CoAP, MQTT Mosquito.
We have been investigating the most suitable configurations, integratin=
g
proxy, and brokers (when and where possible) in the architecture, and
tuning different protocol parameters.

I will be happy to see many of you there, discuss together and collect =
your
feedback.

For those that would like to join remotely, we have set up a webex. Her=
e is
the link:

JOIN WEBEX MEETING
https://meetses.webex.com/meetses/j.php?MTID=3Dm8ef2e6c167d11e162178bd6=
4a65fabfc

Meeting number (access code): 977 113 932
Meeting password: Frank_123

Please, feel free to advertise the Info session to anyone that could be=

interested in the topic.


Thank you.
I look forward to meeting you in London.


Best Regards,
Dr. Maria Rita Palattella

-----------------------------------------------------------------------=
------

Senior R&T Associate
Department 'Environmental Research and Innovation' (ERIN)
Luxembourg Institute of Science and Technology (LIST)
41, rue du Brill
L-4422 Belvaux, Grand-duchy of Luxembourg
email: mariarita.palattella@list.lu, tel: +352 275 888-5055=

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<p><tt><font size=3D"2">Dear all,</font></tt><font size=3D"3" face=3D"s=
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</font><br>
<tt><font size=3D"2">today </font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2"><b>Tuesday =
20th March, </b></font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2">in </font></tt><tt><fo=
nt size=3D"2"><b>Hilton Meeting Rooms 1-4</b></font></tt><tt><font size=
=3D"2">, I will be presenting the M2MSAT project, for 2 hr slot (from <=
/font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2"><b>16:30-18:30</b></font></tt><tt><font=
 size=3D"2">) </font></tt><font size=3D"3" face=3D"serif"><br>
</font><tt><font size=3D"2"><b><br>
M2MSAT</b></font></tt><tt><font size=3D"2">=A0(</font></tt><a href=3D"h=
ttps://artes.esa.int/projects/m2msat" target=3D"_blank"><tt><font size=3D=
"2" color=3D"#0000FF"><u>https://artes.esa.int/projects/m2msat</u></fon=
t></tt></a><tt><font size=3D"2">)is a project, funded by ESA, aiming to=
 study optimisation of IoT application protocols (CoAP and MQTT) for co=
mmunication over a satellite link. IoT networks will be soon integrated=
 with terrestrial networks in the 5G scenarios, and it is fundamental t=
o understand which performance can be achieved, and which adaptation/im=
provement are needed for the =A0IoT protocols, not originally designed =
for communication over satellite. <br>
We have simulated the integrated M2M-Sat system combining different too=
ls: OpenSAND, Californium CoAP, MQTT Mosquito. <br>
We have been investigating the most suitable configurations, integratin=
g proxy, and brokers (when and where possible) in the architecture, and=
 tuning different protocol parameters.</font></tt><font size=3D"3" face=
=3D"serif"><br>
</font><tt><font size=3D"2"><br>
I will be happy to see many of you there, discuss together and collect =
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Thanks for the tip, they changed me 40 pounds in old notes.

Lloyds also said the account thing.

Jordi


El 19/03/18 a les 21:31, Brian Campbell ha escrit:
> The Barclays at 17-18, Spring St near Paddington Station traded out 
> one old £10 note for me without hesitation.
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:59 PM, Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com 
> <mailto:dthaler@microsoft.com>> wrote:
>
>     I went to the nearest HSBC and they would not exchange old notes.
>
>     They said the only place that would if you don’t have an account
>     and are a foreigner, would be the central Bank of England.
>
>     Other suggestions welcome.
>
>     *From:*101attendees <101attendees-bounces@ietf.org
>     <mailto:101attendees-bounces@ietf.org>> *On Behalf Of *Paul Congdon
>     *Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2018 11:18 AM
>     *To:* Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org <mailto:krose@krose.org>>
>     *Cc:* Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com
>     <mailto:pusateri@bangj.com>>; 101attendees@ietf.org
>     <mailto:101attendees@ietf.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: [101attendees] old £ coins
>
>     I've got about 16 pounds to convert as well.   Looking for the
>     same help.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Paul
>
>     On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:12 AM, Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org
>     <mailto:krose@krose.org>> wrote:
>
>         I successfully traded my old £10 notes at the nearby HSBC. I
>         was on line for about 15 minutes, though. I don't know if this
>         applies to coins.
>
>         Kyle
>
>         On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:09 AM, Tom Pusateri
>         <pusateri@bangj.com <mailto:pusateri@bangj.com>> wrote:
>
>             I’ve got a collection of old one £ coins that I want to
>             exchange for new ones. I’m told you have to take them to a
>             bank but that most banks won’t accept them unless you have
>             an account. Any ideas for non-UK citizens? I only have 10
>             of them so it’s not a huge problem but I would like to
>             trade them in if possible.
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>             Thanks,
>             Tom
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    <p>Thanks for the tip, they changed me 40 pounds in old notes. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Lloyds also said the account thing.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Jordi<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">El 19/03/18 a les 21:31, Brian Campbell
      ha escrit:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CA+k3eCQL2Yq-5rVSkcWaMUn07+t=1K39jwsBQ+JnV_AJ_7iS1g@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="ltr">The Barclays at <span
          class="gmail-section-info-text"><span
            class="gmail-widget-pane-link">17-18, Spring St near
            Paddington Station traded out one old £10 note for me
            without hesitation. <br>
          </span></span></div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:59 PM, Dave
          Thaler <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
              href="mailto:dthaler@microsoft.com" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">dthaler@microsoft.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I
                    went to the nearest HSBC and they would not exchange
                    old notes.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">They
                    said the only place that would if you don’t have an
                    account and are a foreigner, would be the central
                    Bank of England.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Other
                    suggestions welcome.</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
                    101attendees &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:101attendees-bounces@ietf.org"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">101attendees-bounces@ietf.org</a><wbr>&gt;
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Congdon<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 19, 2018 11:18 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Kyle Rose &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:krose@krose.org" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">krose@krose.org</a>&gt;<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> Tom Pusateri &lt;<a
                      href="mailto:pusateri@bangj.com" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">pusateri@bangj.com</a>&gt;;
                    <a href="mailto:101attendees@ietf.org"
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                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [101attendees] old £ coins</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">I've got about 16 pounds to
                    convert as well.   Looking for the same help.</p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Paul</p>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:12
                      AM, Kyle Rose &lt;<a href="mailto:krose@krose.org"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">krose@krose.org</a>&gt;
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                    <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid
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                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I successfully
                            traded my old £10 notes at the nearby HSBC.
                            I was on line for about 15 minutes, though.
                            I don't know if this applies to coins.</p>
                        </div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            class="m_8225842102500366204hoenzb"><span
                              style="color:#888888">Kyle</span></span></p>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Mar 19, 2018
                                at 11:09 AM, Tom Pusateri &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:pusateri@bangj.com"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">pusateri@bangj.com</a>&gt;
                                wrote:</p>
                              <blockquote
                                style="border:none;border-left:solid
                                #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in
                                6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
                                <p class="MsoNormal">I’ve got a
                                  collection of old one £ coins that I
                                  want to exchange for new ones. I’m
                                  told you have to take them to a bank
                                  but that most banks won’t accept them
                                  unless you have an account. Any ideas
                                  for non-UK citizens? I only have 10 of
                                  them so it’s not a huge problem but I
                                  would like to trade them in if
                                  possible.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Thanks,<br>
                                  Tom<br>
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Subject says it all.

I am at the Hilton now.

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Sorry about that. The broken link has been fixed. The video recordings 
are being published on YouTube and the integrated Meetecho recordings 
(video from YouTube + chat + transcript) are being posted on that page, too.

Alessandro

Il 20/03/2018 08:40, Russ White ha scritto:
> FYI -- the meetecho recording links are not working. I get:
> 
> ==
> Not Found
> The requested URL /ietf101/recordings was not found on this server.
> ==
> 
> When I try to go to:
> 
> http://www.meetecho.com/ietf101/recordings
> 
> or
> 
> https://www.meetecho.com/ietf101/recordings
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> The second url also gives me a certificate error.
> 
> /r
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Ticket buyer never showed up so I still have a ticket.

In the back of the lobby bar now, or write.  GBP cash or bank transfer 
welcome.

R's,
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Turns out I'm not going to be able to make it--let me know if you would
like them.

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<div dir="ltr"><div>Turns out I&#39;m not going to be able to make it--let me know if you would like them.<br><br></div>Ted<br></div>

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I am waiting in the bar. Black Jeans black jacket.

/Dirk

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Where can we meet?

I take one.

I am at the bar right now.

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On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 3:35 AM, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Turns out I'm not going to be able to make it--let me know if you would
> like them.
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> Ted
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These appear to be claimed, and I have at least one back up claimant. So,
let's call these gone.

Ted

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 3:35 AM, Ted Hardie <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ted.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ted.ietf@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Turns out =
I&#39;m not going to be able to make it--let me know if you would like them=
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</blockquote></div>These appear to be claimed, and I have at least one back=
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2018, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:

> Oh, that's easy.  You always decline the local conversion because the 
> rate is always awful.

Same on the card terminals in restaurants and shops. Never accept their 
offer.

I got handed a terminal to do my payment, and when the question regarding 
"GBP/home currency" came up and I pressed GBP, the terminal even required 
to "acknowledge that customer refused your currency conversion offer" 
YES/NO.

They reeeeaaally want you to use their exchange rate, it must be a huge 
profit center.

-- 
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> Sorry about that. The broken link has been fixed. The video recordings =
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> being published on YouTube and the integrated Meetecho recordings =
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Thanks!

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2018, Jeff Osborn wrote:
> There is a charge free ATM at the Marks and Spenser directly across 
> Edgware Road from the front door of the Hilton. Enter the door on 
> Edgware, and it’s in the left wall by the payment desk.

There are no surcharge 24 hr ATMs at the post office on Praed St a block 
west of the hotel, and at HSBC on Edgware Rd two blocks south of the 
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Hello IETFers!

Transportation from the Hilton London Metropole West Wing Foyer (IETF Registration Area) will be provided to and from the Science Museum starting at 18:30 this evening. Your social tickets will be checked before getting on the bus and once more at the Science Museum entry. 

The first shuttle will return back to the Hilton London Metropole starting at 21:30 and will continue approximately every 15 minutes until the end of the event. 

If you opt not to take the coaches to the social event, please have your ticket ready upon arrival at the museum.

Science Museum
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There isn’t a critical mass who wants to meet again this week, in my 
opinion.  My advice for those who want have something to share is to 
send email.  :)    We’ll do this again in Montreal.  THanks for 
playing!

--aaron

On 19 Mar 2018, at 14:31, Aaron Falk wrote:

> I’ve had a little interest in holding another “Request for 
> Conversation” lightning talk session towards the end of the week.  
> If you have an opinion, please complete this Doodle poll before 
> Tuesday noon GMT.
>
> https://doodle.com/poll/wezrm487648q3qu3
>
> Thanks,
>
> --aaron
>
> On 18 Mar 2018, at 16:22, Aaron Falk wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks-
>>
>> I've posted the order for tonight's talks on the BoF wiki:
>>
>> https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#HotRFCLightningTalks.
>>
>> The event starts at 1800 tonight in the Balmoral room.  Will probably 
>> run a bit over 90 minutes.
>>
>> --aaron

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<p dir=3D"auto">On 19 Mar 2018, at 14:31, Aaron Falk wrote:</p>
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<br>
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Interesting then that they offer the option to charge in
local currency art all. Wonder who forces them to do it.
local laws, Visa/Mastercard ? Owners bank... ;-))

Oh the business models..

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:50:14PM +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2018, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
> 
> >Oh, that's easy.  You always decline the local conversion because
> >the rate is always awful.
> 
> Same on the card terminals in restaurants and shops. Never accept
> their offer.
> 
> I got handed a terminal to do my payment, and when the question
> regarding "GBP/home currency" came up and I pressed GBP, the
> terminal even required to "acknowledge that customer refused your
> currency conversion offer" YES/NO.
> 
> They reeeeaaally want you to use their exchange rate, it must be a
> huge profit center.
> 
> -- 
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In article <20180320134901.GI30215@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> you write:
>Interesting then that they offer the option to charge in
>local currency art all. Wonder who forces them to do it.
>local laws, Visa/Mastercard ? Owners bank... ;-))

Nobody forces them, it's a way to extract free money from tourists.

R's,
John


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I also understand that those with a Bank of America account can withdraw cas=
h from Barclays ATMs at no / very low charge.

Something to do with the Global ATM alliance.

Regards
Denesh

> On 20 Mar 2018, at 12:03, Jeff Osborn <jsosborn@isc.org> wrote:
>=20
> There is a charge free ATM at the Marks=20
> and Spenser directly across Edgware Road from the front door of the Hilton=
. Enter the door on Edgware, and it=E2=80=99s in the left wall by the paymen=
t desk.=20
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> Jeff
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> Sent from my iPhone that autocorrects in interesting ways.  Sorry in advan=
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>>> On Mar 20, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrot=
e:
>>>=20
>>> On Mon, 19 Mar 2018, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
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>>> Oh, that's easy.  You always decline the local conversion because the ra=
te is always awful.
>>=20
>> Same on the card terminals in restaurants and shops. Never accept their o=
ffer.
>>=20
>> I got handed a terminal to do my payment, and when the question regarding=
 "GBP/home currency" came up and I pressed GBP, the terminal even required t=
o "acknowledge that customer refused your currency conversion offer" YES/NO.=

>>=20
>> They reeeeaaally want you to use their exchange rate, it must be a huge p=
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I have to miss the event , any taker for ticket ?=20

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No, the other way around:  The question is what prohibits them from simply =
saying "All transactions will be charged in the native currency of the card=
 presented."?  Presumably, if that's more profitable for them, someone woul=
d try making that the only option they offer.

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In article <20180320134901.GI30215@faui40p.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> you =
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>Interesting then that they offer the option to charge in local currency=20
>art all. Wonder who forces them to do it.
>local laws, Visa/Mastercard ? Owners bank... ;-))

Nobody forces them, it's a way to extract free money from tourists.

R's,
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Please text me at +1 831 234-4232 or email.

Will be at IPPM at 15:50.

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In the interest of cut-through, I propose to be in the IETF hotel bar
after the plenary tomorrow (8:00pm to 10:00pm) and will do PGP keysign
with anyone who presents with believable nationally issued ID, and
their PGP public key.

George.

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 11:43 PM, George Michaelson <ggm@algebras.org> wrote:
> Is anyone planning to swap PGP and identity at IETF?
>
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Hi all,

I have a ticket for the social tonight that I will not be able to use.

(due to bad planning it's in my hotel room in Kensington, but if if it =
solves a problem for anybody I have no problem taking a quick ride round =
the circle line to get it. I have some time after the dnsop meeting =
which is scheduled to end at 1820)

Let me know by e-mail if you want it.


Joe

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If anyone has a spare one, please let me know!

Much appreciated,

Alex
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I=E2=80=99m all set, thanks a lot for the offers!

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On 20 Mar 2018, at 16:12, Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote:

> I have a ticket for the social tonight that I will not be able to use.
>=20
> (due to bad planning it's in my hotel room in Kensington, but if if it =
solves a problem for anybody I have no problem taking a quick ride round =
the circle line to get it. I have some time after the dnsop meeting =
which is scheduled to end at 1820)
>=20
> Let me know by e-mail if you want it.

I quickly heard from about twelve people, and I said yes to the first =
one I opened.

So sorry to everybody else, and I hope you find a way to attend!


Joe=


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Teresa Walsh writes:
> yes I would recommend that you don't do the local exchange rate

One more recommendation: don't exchange at all.  You might be
surprised just how far you can get by never paying cash; I haven't
done foreign exchange for years now.  Your CC company probably gives a
good rate -- use a card without foreign transaction fees.  As a bonus,
you don't end up with obsolete coins and notes.


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I'm also still looking for a ticket. If you have one, let me know.

Thanks,
Koen.


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I have one (the Science Museum ticket, right?) and can't make it.
I'm in the HTTPbis session.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:30 PM Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote:

> On 20 Mar 2018, at 16:12, Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote:
>
> > I have a ticket for the social tonight that I will not be able to use.
> >
> > (due to bad planning it's in my hotel room in Kensington, but if if it
> solves a problem for anybody I have no problem taking a quick ride round
> the circle line to get it. I have some time after the dnsop meeting which
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have one (the Science Museum ticket, right?) and can&#39=
;t make it.<div>I&#39;m in the HTTPbis session.</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:30 PM Joe Abley=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jabley@hopcount.ca">jabley@hopcount.ca</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 20 Mar 2018, at 16:12, Joe Abl=
ey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jabley@hopcount.ca" target=3D"_blank">jabley@hopco=
unt.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; I have a ticket for the social tonight that I will not be able to use.=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; (due to bad planning it&#39;s in my hotel room in Kensington, but if i=
f it solves a problem for anybody I have no problem taking a quick ride rou=
nd the circle line to get it. I have some time after the dnsop meeting whic=
h is scheduled to end at 1820)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Let me know by e-mail if you want it.<br>
<br>
I quickly heard from about twelve people, and I said yes to the first one I=
 opened.<br>
<br>
So sorry to everybody else, and I hope you find a way to attend!<br>
<br>
<br>
Joe<br>
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The Bank of America Global ATM Alliance used to be a good deal, but then
they started to charge a 3% "international transaction fee=E2=80=9D. So I n=
ow use a
Fidelity cash card, which is completely fee-free. They refund all ATM
charges, even those from the local ATM.

Cheers,
Andy


On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:57 PM, Denesh Bhabuta <denesh@meidan.ventures>
wrote:

> I also understand that those with a Bank of America account can withdraw
> cash from Barclays ATMs at no / very low charge.
>
> Something to do with the Global ATM alliance.
>
> Regards
> Denesh
>
> > On 20 Mar 2018, at 12:03, Jeff Osborn <jsosborn@isc.org> wrote:
> >
> > There is a charge free ATM at the Marks
> > and Spenser directly across Edgware Road from the front door of the
> Hilton. Enter the door on Edgware, and it=E2=80=99s in the left wall by t=
he payment
> desk.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone that autocorrects in interesting ways.  Sorry in
> advance for odd word choices.
> >
> >>> On Mar 20, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 19 Mar 2018, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Oh, that's easy.  You always decline the local conversion because the
> rate is always awful.
> >>
> >> Same on the card terminals in restaurants and shops. Never accept thei=
r
> offer.
> >>
> >> I got handed a terminal to do my payment, and when the question
> regarding "GBP/home currency" came up and I pressed GBP, the terminal eve=
n
> required to "acknowledge that customer refused your currency conversion
> offer" YES/NO.
> >>
> >> They reeeeaaally want you to use their exchange rate, it must be a hug=
e
> profit center.
> >>
> >> --
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The Bank of America Global ATM Alliance used to be a good =
deal, but then they started to charge a 3% &quot;international transaction =
fee=E2=80=9D. So I now use a Fidelity cash card, which is completely fee-fr=
ee. They refund all ATM charges, even those from the local ATM.<div><br></d=
iv><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:57 PM, De=
nesh Bhabuta <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:denesh@meidan.ventures=
" target=3D"_blank">denesh@meidan.ventures</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex">I also understand that those with a Bank of America=
 account can withdraw cash from Barclays ATMs at no / very low charge.<br>
<br>
Something to do with the Global ATM alliance.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">Denesh<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
&gt; On 20 Mar 2018, at 12:03, Jeff Osborn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jsosborn@i=
sc.org">jsosborn@isc.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; There is a charge free ATM at the Marks<br>
&gt; and Spenser directly across Edgware Road from the front door of the Hi=
lton. Enter the door on Edgware, and it=E2=80=99s in the left wall by the p=
ayment desk.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jeff<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sent from my iPhone that autocorrects in interesting ways.=C2=A0 Sorry=
 in advance for odd word choices.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Mar 20, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:swmike@swm.pp.se">swmike@swm.pp.se</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Mon, 19 Mar 2018, <a href=3D"mailto:ietf@johnlevine.com">ie=
tf@johnlevine.com</a> wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Oh, that&#39;s easy.=C2=A0 You always decline the local conver=
sion because the rate is always awful.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Same on the card terminals in restaurants and shops. Never accept =
their offer.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I got handed a terminal to do my payment, and when the question re=
garding &quot;GBP/home currency&quot; came up and I pressed GBP, the termin=
al even required to &quot;acknowledge that customer refused your currency c=
onversion offer&quot; YES/NO.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; They reeeeaaally want you to use their exchange rate, it must be a=
 huge profit center.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Mikael Abrahamsson=C2=A0 =C2=A0 email: <a href=3D"mailto:swmike@sw=
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I'm looking for a ticket also.

I mean, the science museum, that's not one to pass up! Wait, I mean it's =
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I seem to have missed the note on when and where we are supposed to 
gather for the social.  I am assuming the answer is 7pm in the West Wing 
lobby?

Thanks,
Joel


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https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/101attendees/current/msg00334.html

West Wing Foyer starting at 1830h.

-Ben

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 01:21:13PM -0400, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
> I seem to have missed the note on when and where we are supposed to 
> gather for the social.  I am assuming the answer is 7pm in the West Wing 
> lobby?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joel
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Joel M. Halpern writes:
> I seem to have missed the note on when and where we are supposed to 
> gather for the social.  I am assuming the answer is 7pm in the West Wing 
> lobby?

Buses start at 18:30 outside the West Wing doors.  Returns start at
21;30, every 15 minutes.  

It'd be great if this information were added in a clear, separate
paragraph at https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/101/social/


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With meetings ending at 18.20 and possibly a bit later, 18.30 is too early.=
 Many will not make it!
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West Wing Foyer starting at 1830h.

-Ben

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On 20 Mar 2018, at 17:41, Bal=C3=A1zs Lengyel =
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> With meetings ending at 18.20 and possibly a bit later, 18.30 is too =
early. Many will not make it!
> Balazs

https://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/visit-us

>> "The nearest tube station is South Kensington. This is on the =
District, Circle and Piccadilly lines and is a 5-minute walk from the =
Museum.
>>=20
>> A pedestrian subway connects South Kensington station to our main =
entrance.
>>=20
>> Gloucester Road tube station is also on the District, Circle and =
Piccadilly lines and is a 15-minute walk from the Museum."

Edgeware Road tube station (across the road from the Hilton) will take =
you to either of those stations quite quickly. Tap an NFC credit card to =
enter and exit, no need to buy a physical ticket. The signs are very =
clear; you'd have to trying really hard to get lost.


Joe

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Buses will *start* running at 1830h.  I would be shocked if they
stopped departing from the hotel prior to 1900h.

-Ben

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 05:41:37PM +0000, Balázs Lengyel wrote:
> With meetings ending at 18.20 and possibly a bit later, 18.30 is too early. Many will not make it!
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> West Wing Foyer starting at 1830h.
> 
> -Ben
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> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 01:21:13PM -0400, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
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One more spare ticket 




If you are interested, please contact me by mail 




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On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:34 PM +0000, "Kenji Baheux" <kenjibaheux@google.com> wrote:










I have one (the Science Museum ticket, right?) and can't make it.I'm in the HTTPbis session.
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On 20 Mar 2018, at 16:12, Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote:



> I have a ticket for the social tonight that I will not be able to use.

>

> (due to bad planning it's in my hotel room in Kensington, but if if it solves a problem for anybody I have no problem taking a quick ride round the circle line to get it. I have some time after the dnsop meeting which is scheduled to end at 1820)

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> Let me know by e-mail if you want it.



I quickly heard from about twelve people, and I said yes to the first one I opened.



So sorry to everybody else, and I hope you find a way to attend!





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<div dir="ltr">I have one (the Science Museum ticket, right?) and can't make it.<div>I'm in the HTTPbis session.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:30 PM Joe Abley &lt;<a href="mailto:jabley@hopcount.ca">jabley@hopcount.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 20 Mar 2018, at 16:12, Joe Abley &lt;<a href="mailto:jabley@hopcount.ca" target="_blank">jabley@hopcount.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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&gt; I have a ticket for the social tonight that I will not be able to use.<br>
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I quickly heard from about twelve people, and I said yes to the first one I opened.<br>
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	Does someone know if these are available locally nearby
the Hilton hotel?

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> the Hilton hotel?

There's a Maplin at 186 Edgeware Road. It's open until 8pm.

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On 20/03/2018 18:14, Joe Abley wrote:
> On 20 Mar 2018, at 18:10, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.Nether.net> wrote:
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>> 	Does someone know if these are available locally nearby
>> the Hilton hotel?
> There's a Maplin at 186 Edgeware Road. It's open until 8pm.
>
> https://www.maplin.co.uk
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> The web page lets you check availability. Depending on what you want, y=
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=2E..and Maplin is being shut down nation-wide, thus there are some great=

clear-out deals to be had.
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Failing that, you can order them off CPC for free next-day delivery:
http://cpc.farnell.com/raspberry-pi/2773729/raspberry-pi-3-model-b/dp/SC148=
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On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 6:20 PM Olivier MJ Cr=C3=A9pin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com=
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>
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> On 20/03/2018 18:14, Joe Abley wrote:
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> On 20 Mar 2018, at 18:10, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.Nether.net> <jared@puck=
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> 	Does someone know if these are available locally nearby
> the Hilton hotel?
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> There's a Maplin at 186 Edgeware Road. It's open until 8pm.
> https://www.maplin.co.uk
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> The web page lets you check availability. Depending on what you want, you=
 might need the store on Tottenham Court Road.
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> ...and Maplin is being shut down nation-wide, thus there are some great
> clear-out deals to be had.
> Best,
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Failing that, you can order them off CPC for free next-day=
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berry-pi-3-model-b/dp/SC14882">http://cpc.farnell.com/raspberry-pi/2773729/=
raspberry-pi-3-model-b/dp/SC14882</a></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 6:20 PM Olivier MJ Cr=C3=A9pin-Lebl=
ond &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
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      <pre>On 20 Mar 2018, at 18:10, Jared Mauch <a class=3D"m_504127626922=
4184965moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:jared@puck.Nether.net" target=
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	Does someone know if these are available locally nearby
the Hilton hotel?
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There&#39;s a Maplin at 186 Edgeware Road. It&#39;s open until 8pm.

<a class=3D"m_5041276269224184965moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://www=
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The web page lets you check availability. Depending on what you want, you m=
ight need the store on Tottenham Court Road.</pre>
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    ...and Maplin is being shut down nation-wide, thus there are some
    great clear-out deals to be had.<br>
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    <br>
    Olivier<br>
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A great example of head of line blocking....

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This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a ticket. Definitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues waiting for food that didn't arrive. There are many good examples how such an event can be organized.<br>
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absolutely...  This could be avoided by invoking 'Congestion Isolation' -
aka rescheduling those from the queue that had already taken their share of
the food!!!

Not sure how the police are for that, but it is a local decision.

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Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) writes:
> This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a ticket.

While I agree with the assessment that the food situation was a
problem -- I ended up hardly eating anything -- I don't believe it
rises to the level of worst ever on my own scale.

There were a couple of things I quite liked, namely that the available
exhibits were more broadly interesting than, say, a hockey museum, and
that the large open hall allowed for more socializing with a bit of
everyone.  The museum we went to for IETF 89 in London was also
interesting with exhibits, but had far less interaction because it was
spread over dozens of rooms on multiple floors.  Singapore aquarium
had fewer rooms but was also quite spread out.


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Probably not the worst social, but possibly the one in which I spent the la=
rgest amount of time queuing, and repeatedly queuing for nothing. Also the =
one in which I got the smallest amount of food. I ended up drinking too muc=
h to compensate (or maybe for other reasons, not sure about this one). We'r=
e not exactly starved during IETF meetings so it's not a major problem, but=
 this ranks rather low on value for price.
Also a great way to convince everyone that congestion control is a serious =
matter. We should have a BCP on congestion control for caterers.
The half of the museum that was open was otherwise interesting. I'm always =
impressed by original historical artifacts.
J.

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Subject: [101attendees] IETF 101 social event

This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a ticket. D=
efinitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues waiting for food that didn't ar=
rive. There are many good examples how such an event can be organized.
Dieter

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 for nothing. Also the one in which I got the smallest amount of food. I en=
ded up drinking too much to compensate
 (or maybe for other reasons, not sure about this one). We&#8217;re not exa=
ctly starved during IETF meetings so it&#8217;s not a major problem, but th=
is ranks rather low on value for price.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Also a great way to convince everyone that congestio=
n control is a serious matter. We should have a BCP on congestion control f=
or caterers.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The half of the museum that was open was otherwise i=
nteresting. I&#8217;m always impressed by original historical artifacts.<o:=
p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">J.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:03 PM<br>
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USD. Long queues waiting for food that didn't arrive.
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Got some dinner in a Subway "restaurant" as well. Still amazed by the
museum.

I mean, I could have brought a sandwich with me if someone -- anyone --
would have told me that only snacks would be available during the event.

That way, I wouldn't complain. I love rockets.

=D1=81=D1=80, 21 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80. 2018 =D0=B3., 0:21 Maisonneuve, Julien=
 (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) <
julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com>:

> Probably not the worst social, but possibly the one in which I spent the
> largest amount of time queuing, and repeatedly queuing for nothing. Also
> the one in which I got the smallest amount of food. I ended up drinking t=
oo
> much to compensate (or maybe for other reasons, not sure about this one).
> We=E2=80=99re not exactly starved during IETF meetings so it=E2=80=99s no=
t a major problem,
> but this ranks rather low on value for price.
>
> Also a great way to convince everyone that congestion control is a seriou=
s
> matter. We should have a BCP on congestion control for caterers.
>
> The half of the museum that was open was otherwise interesting. I=E2=80=
=99m always
> impressed by original historical artifacts.
>
> J.
>
>
>
> *From:* 101attendees [mailto:101attendees-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of
> *Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:03 PM
> *To:* 101attendees@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [101attendees] IETF 101 social event
>
>
>
> This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a ticket.
> Definitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues waiting for food that didn't
> arrive. There are many good examples how such an event can be organized.
>
> Dieter
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Got some dinner in a Subway &quot;restaurant&quot; as well. Still amazed by=
 the museum.<div><br></div><div>I mean, I could have brought a sandwich wit=
h me if someone -- anyone -- would have told me that only snacks would be a=
vailable during the event.</div><div><br></div><div>That way, I wouldn&#39;=
t complain. I love rockets.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">=D1=81=D1=80, 21 =D0=BC=D0=B0=D1=80. 2018 =D0=B3., 0:21 Maisonneuve, Ju=
lien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:julien.maisonneuve@nok=
ia.com">julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com</a>&gt;:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
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<div class=3D"m_-6557831209273933862WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Probably not the worst social, but possibly the one =
in which I spent the largest amount of time queuing, and repeatedly queuing=
 for nothing. Also the one in which I got the smallest amount of food. I en=
ded up drinking too much to compensate
 (or maybe for other reasons, not sure about this one). We=E2=80=99re not e=
xactly starved during IETF meetings so it=E2=80=99s not a major problem, bu=
t this ranks rather low on value for price.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Also a great way to convince everyone that congestio=
n control is a serious matter. We should have a BCP on congestion control f=
or caterers.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The half of the museum that was open was otherwise i=
nteresting. I=E2=80=99m always impressed by original historical artifacts.<=
u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">J.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> 101attendees [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:=
101attendees-bounces@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">101attendees-bounces@ietf.=
org</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:101attendees@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">101at=
tendees@ietf.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [101attendees] IETF 101 social event<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">This has been the worst soc=
ial event ever for which I purchased a ticket. Definitely not worth the 35 =
USD. Long queues waiting for food that didn&#39;t arrive.
 There are many good examples how such an event can be organized.<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>
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rif;color:black">Dieter<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Where the heck is early TSV review when you need it ?

When can they start NOT to build out serving stations to encourage
single global queue building.

In all fairness, i liked the social a lot, and i think the
serving stations wheren't really the primarily responsible party,
but just the amazingly strangely behaving packets that
where seeking out to form a queue whenever it was unnecessary.
And waiting out buffer bloat of that queue for seriously more than 
15 minutes before daring to do parallel processing. Very strange.

Chers
    Toerless

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 11:19:12PM +0000, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Mar 20, 2018, at 11:10 PM, Paul Congdon <paul.congdon@tallac.com> wrote:
> > absolutely...  This could be avoided by invoking 'Congestion Isolation' - aka rescheduling those from the queue that had already taken their share of the food!!!
> 
> They really should have just started ejecting people from the social if they got into a line with more people queued than could be satisfied by the available food.

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Hello,
I am assuming 2 hrs headroom is plenty for international departure from Hea=
throw to US. However I recall hearing something in the contrary, anybody wi=
th personal experience?
Thx.
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rthy 35 $ And well, maybe refund should happen.

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On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:03:21PM +0000,
 Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) <dieter.beller@nokia.com> wrote 
 a message of 54 lines which said:

> This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a
> ticket. Definitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues waiting for
> food that didn't arrive.

True (I was so engrossed by the wonderful models on the first floor
that I missed the queuing and then all the food was gone) but, on the
other hand, there was a lot of drinks. (Unlike some social events
where the liquors quickly ran out.) As a result, I had some trouble
finding my way in the Underground but I managed to go home safely :-)


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FWIW I had a great time, but one of the reasons is probably that I looked
at the queues, said to myself "naw, that doesn't look good" and didn't get
in one (I've been keen on bufferbloat for a long time).   But I enjoyed
chatting with people who _were_ in the queues, and also standing around
talking about the queues (and other topics) with people who like me had
decided to wait until the congestion ended.

The good news is that there were still a fair number of tofu sandwiches
left when the other stuff ran out.   Apparently the IETF has the same
reaction to the dreaded Tofudebeest as the lions of the Serengeti:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7zCZJ8sc_UY/TWSRbWI0PGI/AAAAAAAAA8E/YX_H_-poL3Y/s1600/tofudebeest.jpg

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr
> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:03:21PM +0000,
>  Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) <dieter.beller@nokia.com> wrote
>  a message of 54 lines which said:
>
> > This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a
> > ticket. Definitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues waiting for
> > food that didn't arrive.
>
> True (I was so engrossed by the wonderful models on the first floor
> that I missed the queuing and then all the food was gone) but, on the
> other hand, there was a lot of drinks. (Unlike some social events
> where the liquors quickly ran out.) As a result, I had some trouble
> finding my way in the Underground but I managed to go home safely :-)
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">FWIW I had a great time, but one of the reasons is probabl=
y that I looked at the queues, said to myself &quot;naw, that doesn&#39;t l=
ook good&quot; and didn&#39;t get in one (I&#39;ve been keen on bufferbloat=
 for a long time).=C2=A0 =C2=A0But I enjoyed chatting with people who _were=
_ in the queues, and also standing around talking about the queues (and oth=
er topics) with people who like me had decided to wait until the congestion=
 ended.<div><br></div><div>The good news is that there were still a fair nu=
mber of tofu sandwiches left when the other stuff ran out.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Appa=
rently the IETF has the same reaction to the dreaded Tofudebeest as the lio=
ns of the Serengeti:=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7zCZJ8sc_UY/=
TWSRbWI0PGI/AAAAAAAAA8E/YX_H_-poL3Y/s1600/tofudebeest.jpg">http://4.bp.blog=
spot.com/-7zCZJ8sc_UY/TWSRbWI0PGI/AAAAAAAAA8E/YX_H_-poL3Y/s1600/tofudebeest=
.jpg</a></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr" target=3D"_blank">bortzmeyer+i=
etf@nic.fr</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, =
Mar 20, 2018 at 10:03:21PM +0000,<br>
=C2=A0Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dieter.be=
ller@nokia.com">dieter.beller@nokia.com</a>&gt; wrote<br>
<span class=3D"">=C2=A0a message of 54 lines which said:<br>
<br>
&gt; This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a<br>
&gt; ticket. Definitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues waiting for<br>
&gt; food that didn&#39;t arrive.<br>
<br>
</span>True (I was so engrossed by the wonderful models on the first floor<=
br>
that I missed the queuing and then all the food was gone) but, on the<br>
other hand, there was a lot of drinks. (Unlike some social events<br>
where the liquors quickly ran out.) As a result, I had some trouble<br>
finding my way in the Underground but I managed to go home safely :-)<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
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I can't comment on the social, not having participated,
but this is definitely the worst hotel experience I have had in my life.

My "cold" water is boiling hot (indistinguishable from the hot water), so I=
 haven't been able to properly shower in 2 days.
The maintenance man says that it depends on how many people are showering o=
n my floor,
and that I should open the tap full and wait for cold water and then quickl=
y shower before it goes away.
(However, when the cold water finally comes, the hot water goes away.)

The positive side of this is that the water comes to a boil very quickly.
Which is important since it is so murky that I boil it before drinking.

The bed in my room is as hard as a rock, only rocks don't have springs stic=
king out.
The cleaning staff brought me several duvets to put under the sheets to mak=
e it more comfortable.

I expected a Hilton in downtown London, but received the comforts of a yout=
h hostel in a third world country.

Y(J)S

From: 101attendees [mailto:101attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Bell=
er, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:03 PM
To: 101attendees@ietf.org<mailto:101attendees@ietf.org>
Subject: [101attendees] IETF 101 social event

This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a ticket. D=
efinitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues waiting for food that didn't ar=
rive. There are many good examples how such an event can be organized.
Dieter

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I can&#8217;t comment =
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">but this is definitely=
 the worst hotel experience I have had in my life.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">My &#8220;cold&#8221; =
water is boiling hot (indistinguishable from the hot water), so I haven&#82=
17;t been able to properly shower in 2 days.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The maintenance man sa=
ys that it depends on how many people are showering on my floor,<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">and that I should open=
 the tap full and wait for cold water and then quickly shower before it goe=
s away.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">(However, when the col=
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n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The positive side of t=
his is that the water comes to a boil very quickly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Which is important sin=
ce it is so murky that I boil it before drinking.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The bed in my room is =
as hard as a rock, only rocks don&#8217;t have springs sticking out.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The cleaning staff bro=
ught me several duvets to put under the sheets to make it more comfortable.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I expected a Hilton in=
 downtown London, but received the comforts of a youth hostel in a third wo=
rld country.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></spa=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Y(J)S<o:p></o:p></span=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> 101attendees [<a href=3D"mailto:101atte=
ndees-bounces@ietf.org">mailto:101attendees-bounces@ietf.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:101attendees@ietf.org">101attendees@ietf.org</=
a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [101attendees] IETF 101 social event<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">This has been the worst soc=
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USD. Long queues waiting for food that didn't arrive.
 There are many good examples how such an event can be organized.<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-se=
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Not having been there, but as (formerly) responsible WG chair I have to chi=
me in :)

Usually, in the UK, you often have single-queue, multiple exit processing =
(supermarket cashiers, for example)=2E So reading through your expiriences =
it amazes me, that this default queuing / processing mechanism, which is in=
 wide-spread deployment all over the UK, was not implemented yesterday even=
ing=2E=2E=2E

BTW, I've visited the science museum at almost every trip to london where =
I could spare some time, and have yet to see all of it (still missing the u=
pper floors of one wing)=2E

And the Apollo 10 capsule and A4 engine / turbomachinery are always impres=
sive=2E=2E=2E

Best regards,
  Richard


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Von: "Ingemar Johansson S" <ingemar=2Es=2Ejohansson@ericsson=2Ecom>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21=2E M=C3=A4rz 2018 07:33
An: "Paul Congdon" <paul=2Econgdon@tallac=2Ecom>; "Alistair Woodman" <awoo=
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Betreff: Re: [101attendees] IETF 101 social event

Sounds like you need to implement this
https://tools=2Eietf=2Eorg/html/rfc8290

/Ingemar

From: 101attendees [mailto:101attendees-bounces@ietf=2Eorg] On Behalf Of P=
aul Congdon
Sent: den 21 mars 2018 00:11
To: Alistair Woodman <awoodman@netdef=2Eorg>
Cc: Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) <dieter=2Ebeller@nokia=2Ecom>; 1=
01attendees@ietf=2Eorg
Subject: Re: [101attendees] IETF 101 social event

absolutely=2E=2E=2E  This could be avoided by invoking 'Congestion Isolati=
on' - aka rescheduling those from the queue that had already taken their sh=
are of the food!!!

Not sure how the police are for that, but it is a local decision=2E

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Alistair Woodman <awoodman@netdef=2Eorg<m=
ailto:awoodman@netdef=2Eorg>> wrote:
A great example of head of line blocking=2E=2E=2E=2E

/a

On Mar 20, 2018, at 15:03, Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) <dieter=
=2Ebeller@nokia=2Ecom<mailto:dieter=2Ebeller@nokia=2Ecom>> wrote:
This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a ticket=
=2E Definitely not worth the 35 USD=2E Long queues waiting for food that di=
dn't arrive=2E There are many good examples how such an event can be organi=
zed=2E
Dieter
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> On 21 Mar 2018, at 07:08, Sumandra Majee <smajee@yahoo.com> wrote:
>=20
> I am assuming 2 hrs headroom is plenty for international departure =
from Heathrow to US. However I recall hearing something in the contrary, =
anybody with personal experience?

Two hours should be fine. Though if anything goes wrong -- bad weather, =
equipment failure, etc -- queues at Heathrow will get very large very =
quickly because everything's working at near peak capacity all of the =
time. Check-in online if you can (always a good idea) as that's one less =
queue to worry about. As I said earlier, you *have* to be in the queue =
for security theatre at least 45 minutes or so before departure. The =
automated gates in front of the goons and xray machines won't let you go =
airside if you arrive "too late" for your flight.

As always, check with your airline. They may have their own rules or =
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Actually, for some of us not being able to get a balanced meal is a 
MAJOR issue.
Yeah, I disliked standing on two different lines for 20+ minutes each to 
not get food.
But ending up without edible food (no, the desserts they were bringing 
around were NOT a viable solution) was worse than frustrating.

Yours,
Joel

On 3/20/18 8:20 PM, Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) wrote:
> Probably not the worst social, but possibly the one in which I spent the 
> largest amount of time queuing, and repeatedly queuing for nothing. Also 
> the one in which I got the smallest amount of food. I ended up drinking 
> too much to compensate (or maybe for other reasons, not sure about this 
> one). We’re not exactly starved during IETF meetings so it’s not a major 
> problem, but this ranks rather low on value for price.
> 
> Also a great way to convince everyone that congestion control is a 
> serious matter. We should have a BCP on congestion control for caterers.
> 
> The half of the museum that was open was otherwise interesting. I’m 
> always impressed by original historical artifacts.
> 
> J.
> 
> *From:* 101attendees [mailto:101attendees-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf 
> Of *Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:03 PM
> *To:* 101attendees@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [101attendees] IETF 101 social event
> 
> This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a 
> ticket. Definitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues waiting for food 
> that didn't arrive. There are many good examples how such an event can 
> be organized.
> 
> Dieter
> 
> 
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On 21 Mar 2018, at 08:32, Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com> wrote:
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> I expected a Hilton in downtown London, but received the comforts of a =
youth hostel in a third world country.

First, apologies for using a meaningful and relevant Subject header. :-)

I don't understand why you complain on this list about the issues you =
have with your room. It's doubtful anyone here can debug the Hilton's =
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complain to the hotel management and insist they provide another room.


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> On 21 Mar 2018, at 09:22, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
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> I don't understand why you complain on this list about the issues you =
have with your room. It's doubtful anyone here can debug the Hilton's =
plumbing or arrange a more comfortable bed for you. I suggest you =
complain to the hotel management and insist they provide another room.

My take would be because grievance has a spectrum for which there is a =
variable threshold after which you take action, and before which you
are not motivated enough and are content to just commiserate.

Kind regards,
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The IETF staff looked on other emails to be very helpful when
needed. I don't think simple plumbing issue qualify for support,
as Jim said, those should typically be resolvable directly.

Nevertheles, maybe the IETF staff is interested to see
room issues being sent to the list, primarily just to vet if
there could be an unusal high number (don't think there is).

For the conference i find the Hilton quite good. Free cardio through
the maze. World War 3 protection through 3 story deep bunker meeting
rooms, and nice collaborative setup of cafe / bar area on the ground
floor. 

I typically try to stay away booking rooms at Hiltons, i think
their rooms are overpriced "close to the train station" type hotels.

Proximity to Paddington is actually very nice, and i also think that
there is a lot more value hotels in the vicinity here than you would
find in more posh or touristy areas in London (i am staying just
100 ft across the street). Restaurants too.

I also like bickering about broken plumbing. More fun though in IETF working
groups than with Hilton staffers. Especially because they would
look quite bewildered if you presented them with a draft to fix the issue.
Well, thinking of that, IETF working groups sometimes react the same *sigh* ;-)

Cheers
   Toerless

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 09:22:14AM +0000, Jim Reid wrote:
> On 21 Mar 2018, at 08:32, Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I expected a Hilton in downtown London, but received the comforts of a youth hostel in a third world country.
> 
> First, apologies for using a meaningful and relevant Subject header. :-)
> 
> I don't understand why you complain on this list about the issues you have with your room. It's doubtful anyone here can debug the Hilton's plumbing or arrange a more comfortable bed for you. I suggest you complain to the hotel management and insist they provide another room.
> 
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The lines were long but I had good conversations and enjoyed the social.

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On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)
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> This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a ticket.
> Definitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues waiting for food that didn't
> arrive. There are many good examples how such an event can be organized.
>
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Sorry for your experience.

I enjoyed the exhibition, drinks, I also got my fair share of food after =
queueing for couple of minutes, and I very much enjoyed the *social* =
aspect of the event. I had far more worse experience in a places where =
there was plethora of food and drinks, but either it was *loud* or =
*boring*. I am thankful for the staff and sponsors that made this =
possible.

Please could we not repeat the =E2=80=9Cswag is no good=E2=80=9D =
discussion again?

Ondrej
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> On 20 Mar 2018, at 22:03, Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) =
<dieter.beller@nokia.com> wrote:
>=20
> This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a =
ticket. Definitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues waiting for food =
that didn't arrive. There are many good examples how such an event can =
be organized.
>=20
> Dieter
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I put it up to the list for the same reason people griped about the social =
event - to see if others have had similar experiences.

Of course I have requested a room change.=20
The staff has been sympathetic, but has not yet been able to deliver due to=
 being fully booked.=20
I assume that after I move out, someone else is going to get this room ...

Y(J)S

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Subject: room problems

On 21 Mar 2018, at 08:32, Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com> wrote:
>=20
> I expected a Hilton in downtown London, but received the comforts of a yo=
uth hostel in a third world country.

First, apologies for using a meaningful and relevant Subject header. :-)

I don't understand why you complain on this list about the issues you have =
with your room. It's doubtful anyone here can debug the Hilton's plumbing o=
r arrange a more comfortable bed for you. I suggest you complain to the hot=
el management and insist they provide another room.


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I was there and I really enjoyed the place and the event.

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=E2=80=9CFragen sind nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden.
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> El 21 mar 2018, a las 8:38, rs.ietf@gmx.at escribi=C3=B3:
>=20
> Not having been there, but as (formerly) responsible WG chair I have =
to chime in :)
>=20
> Usually, in the UK, you often have single-queue, multiple exit =
processing (supermarket cashiers, for example). So reading through your =
expiriences it amazes me, that this default queuing / processing =
mechanism, which is in wide-spread deployment all over the UK, was not =
implemented yesterday evening...
>=20
> BTW, I've visited the science museum at almost every trip to london =
where I could spare some time, and have yet to see all of it (still =
missing the upper floors of one wing).
>=20
> And the Apollo 10 capsule and A4 engine / turbomachinery are always =
impressive...
>=20
> Best regards,
>  Richard
>=20
>=20
> ---
> Ich habe diese Nachricht mit der GMX Mail App f=C3=BCr Windows =
erstellt.
>=20
> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Ingemar Johansson S" <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. M=C3=A4rz 2018 07:33
> An: "Paul Congdon" <paul.congdon@tallac.com>; "Alistair Woodman" =
<awoodman@netdef.org>
> Cc: "Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)" <dieter.beller@nokia.com>; =
"101attendees@ietf.org" <101attendees@ietf.org>
> Betreff: Re: [101attendees] IETF 101 social event
>=20
> Sounds like you need to implement this
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8290
>=20
> /Ingemar
>=20
> From: 101attendees [mailto:101attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of =
Paul Congdon
> Sent: den 21 mars 2018 00:11
> To: Alistair Woodman <awoodman@netdef.org>
> Cc: Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) <dieter.beller@nokia.com>; =
101attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [101attendees] IETF 101 social event
>=20
> absolutely...  This could be avoided by invoking 'Congestion =
Isolation' - aka rescheduling those from the queue that had already =
taken their share of the food!!!
>=20
> Not sure how the police are for that, but it is a local decision.
>=20
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Alistair Woodman =
<awoodman@netdef.org<mailto:awoodman@netdef.org>> wrote:
> A great example of head of line blocking....
>=20
> /a
>=20
> On Mar 20, 2018, at 15:03, Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) =
<dieter.beller@nokia.com<mailto:dieter.beller@nokia.com>> wrote:
> This has been the worst social event ever for which I purchased a =
ticket. Definitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues waiting for food =
that didn't arrive. There are many good examples how such an event can =
be organized.
> Dieter
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was there and I really enjoyed the place and the event.<div class=3D""><br=
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word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">=E2=80=9CFragen sind =
nicht da, um beantwortet zu werden.<br class=3D"">Fragen sind da, um =
gestellt zu werden=E2=80=9D<br class=3D"">Georg Kreisler<br =
class=3D"">---<br class=3D"">PEDRO ANDRES ARANDA GUTIERREZ<br =
class=3D"">Researcher - Universidad Carloos III Madrid<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:paranda@it.uc3m.es" =
class=3D"">mailto:paranda@it.uc3m.es</a></div></div></div>
</div>
<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">El 21 mar 2018, a las 8:38, <a href=3D"mailto:rs.ietf@gmx.at" =
class=3D"">rs.ietf@gmx.at</a> escribi=C3=B3:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div class=3D"">Not =
having been there, but as (formerly) responsible WG chair I have to =
chime in :)<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Usually, in the UK, you often =
have single-queue, multiple exit processing (supermarket cashiers, for =
example). So reading through your expiriences it amazes me, that this =
default queuing / processing mechanism, which is in wide-spread =
deployment all over the UK, was not implemented yesterday evening...<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">BTW, I've visited the science museum at almost =
every trip to london where I could spare some time, and have yet to see =
all of it (still missing the upper floors of one wing).<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">And the Apollo 10 capsule and A4 engine / turbomachinery are =
always impressive...<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Best regards,<br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;Richard<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">---<br class=3D"">Ich habe diese Nachricht mit der GMX Mail =
App f=C3=BCr Windows erstellt.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----<br class=3D"">Von: =
"Ingemar Johansson S" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com" =
class=3D"">ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com</a>&gt;<br =
class=3D"">Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. M=C3=A4rz 2018 07:33<br class=3D"">An: =
"Paul Congdon" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:paul.congdon@tallac.com" =
class=3D"">paul.congdon@tallac.com</a>&gt;; "Alistair Woodman" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:awoodman@netdef.org" =
class=3D"">awoodman@netdef.org</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: "Beller, Dieter =
(Nokia - DE/Stuttgart)" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dieter.beller@nokia.com" =
class=3D"">dieter.beller@nokia.com</a>&gt;; "<a =
href=3D"mailto:101attendees@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">101attendees@ietf.org</a>" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:101attendees@ietf.org" =
class=3D"">101attendees@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br class=3D"">Betreff: Re: =
[101attendees] IETF 101 social event<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sounds =
like you need to implement this<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8290" =
class=3D"">https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8290</a><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">/Ingemar<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">From: 101attendees =
[mailto:101attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Congdon<br =
class=3D"">Sent: den 21 mars 2018 00:11<br class=3D"">To: Alistair =
Woodman &lt;awoodman@netdef.org&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: Beller, Dieter =
(Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) &lt;dieter.beller@nokia.com&gt;; =
101attendees@ietf.org<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [101attendees] IETF 101 =
social event<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">absolutely... &nbsp;This could =
be avoided by invoking 'Congestion Isolation' - aka rescheduling those =
from the queue that had already taken their share of the food!!!<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Not sure how the police are for that, but it =
is a local decision.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 =
at 4:06 PM, Alistair Woodman =
&lt;awoodman@netdef.org&lt;mailto:awoodman@netdef.org&gt;&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D"">A great example of head of line blocking....<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">/a<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Mar 20, 2018, at 15:03, =
Beller, Dieter (Nokia - DE/Stuttgart) =
&lt;dieter.beller@nokia.com&lt;mailto:dieter.beller@nokia.com&gt;&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D"">This has been the worst social event ever for which =
I purchased a ticket. Definitely not worth the 35 USD. Long queues =
waiting for food that didn't arrive. There are many good examples how =
such an event can be organized.<br class=3D"">Dieter<br =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br =
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I am checking out shortly... have a King Exec (not a refurbished room and ha=
d to request an extension cable to get power sockets near my bed).. but plum=
bing is fine (water in shower needs to be a higher temperature on the tap).

The better rooms are indeed those from Floor 13 and above in the Tower Wing a=
nd those in the West Wing.

Let me know if you want this room and I will give you the room number to quo=
te to reception.

I have stayed in this hotel multiple times and have not had any plumbing iss=
ues.. so I do think it is to do with the hotel being at capacity.

Regards
Denesh

> On 21 Mar 2018, at 10:14, Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com> wrote:
>=20
> I put it up to the list for the same reason people griped about the social=
 event - to see if others have had similar experiences.
>=20
> Of course I have requested a room change.=20
> The staff has been sympathetic, but has not yet been able to deliver due t=
o being fully booked.=20
> I assume that after I move out, someone else is going to get this room ...=

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> Y(J)S
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> -----Original Message-----
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> To: Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com>
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> Subject: room problems
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>> On 21 Mar 2018, at 08:32, Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com> wrote:
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>> I expected a Hilton in downtown London, but received the comforts of a yo=
uth hostel in a third world country.
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> First, apologies for using a meaningful and relevant Subject header. :-)
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> I don't understand why you complain on this list about the issues you have=
 with your room. It's doubtful anyone here can debug the Hilton's plumbing o=
r arrange a more comfortable bed for you. I suggest you complain to the hote=
l management and insist they provide another room.
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Honest question: once you've filled the little boat plate thingie with cole
slaw or whatever it was, how do you actually eat it?

a) bear method: attack it with your hands and/or mouth directly
b) baby bird method: look at the ceiling, open your mouth, drop it from
above
c) civilized method: use a second boat plate thingie as a shovel
d) ???

Inquiring minds want to know how Brits eat...

:)

Simon

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Honest question: once you&#39;v=
e filled the little boat plate thingie with cole slaw or whatever it was, h=
ow do you actually eat it?</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra">a) bear method: attack it with your hands and/or mouth=
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ceiling, open your mouth, drop it from above</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
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v class=3D"gmail_extra">d) ???</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra">Inquiring minds want to know how Brits eat...</div=
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> On 21 Mar 2018, at 10:25, Simon Perreault <sperreault@jive.com> wrote:
> Honest question: once you've filled the little boat plate thingie with col=
e slaw or whatever it was, how do you actually eat it?
> a) bear method: attack it with your hands and/or mouth directly
> b) baby bird method: look at the ceiling, open your mouth, drop it from ab=
ove
> c) civilized method: use a second boat plate thingie as a shovel
> d) ???
> Inquiring minds want to know how Brits eat...

Chopsticks.=20

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On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Simon Perreault <sperreault@jive.com> =
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The cole slaw was there to add color.   You were never meant to eat it!


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<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Simon Perreault &lt;<a href="mailto:sperreault@jive.com" class="">sperreault@jive.com</a>&gt; wrote:<div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Honest question: once you've filled the little boat plate thingie with cole slaw or whatever it was, how do you actually eat it?</div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>The cole slaw was there to add color. &nbsp; You were never meant to <i class="">eat</i> it!</div><br class=""></body></html>
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We don't eat that stuff=2E  We survive entirely on tea and beer=2E

Mark

On 21 March 2018 10:25:12 GMT+00:00, Simon Perreault <sperreault@jive=2Eco=
m> wrote:
>Honest question: once you've filled the little boat plate thingie with
>cole
>slaw or whatever it was, how do you actually eat it?
>
>a) bear method: attack it with your hands and/or mouth directly
>b) baby bird method: look at the ceiling, open your mouth, drop it from
>above
>c) civilized method: use a second boat plate thingie as a shovel
>d) ???
>
>Inquiring minds want to know how Brits eat=2E=2E=2E
>
>:)
>
>Simon

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Honest question: once you've f=
illed the little boat plate thingie with cole slaw or whatever it was, how =
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> On 21 Mar 2018, at 10:31, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
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> The cole slaw was there to add color. 

Colour. Please. We're not in America. :-)


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> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
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>> On 21 Mar 2018, at 10:31, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> The cole slaw was there to add color.=20
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> Colour. Please. We're not in America. :-)

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> On Mar 21, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
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>> On 21 Mar 2018, at 10:31, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
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>> The cole slaw was there to add color.=20
>=20
> Colour. Please. We're not in America. :-)

Extraneous or necessary 'u' or not, if you're debating the consumption of c=
olors, you've had a far more interesting and psychedelic dining experience =
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-- Jeff


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> On 21 Mar 2018, at 10:33, Mark Handley <mark@handley.org.uk> wrote:
>=20
> We don't eat that stuff. We survive entirely on tea and beer.

This can also be combined, e.g., https://untappd.com/b/red-cat-brewing-art-=
of-t/2291063

Tim

>=20
> Mark
>=20
> On 21 March 2018 10:25:12 GMT+00:00, Simon Perreault <sperreault@jive.com=
> wrote:
> Honest question: once you've filled the little boat plate thingie with co=
le slaw or whatever it was, how do you actually eat it?
>=20
> a) bear method: attack it with your hands and/or mouth directly
> b) baby bird method: look at the ceiling, open your mouth, drop it from a=
bove
> c) civilized method: use a second boat plate thingie as a shovel
> d) ???
>=20
> Inquiring minds want to know how Brits eat...
>=20
> :)
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At least it was no problem to get a glass of red wine. I remember the
social at Mus=C3=A9e d'Orsay at the Paris IETF where they have had run out =
of
red wine less than half hour after the social had started. Seems that
our British hosts are vin connaisseuses/connaisseurs :-)

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe
Olaf


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> At least it was no problem to get a glass of red wine. I remember the
> social at Mus=C3=A9e d'Orsay at the Paris IETF where they have had run ou=
t of
> red wine less than half hour after the social had started. Seems that
> our British hosts are vin connaisseuses/connaisseurs :-)

As we locals say, "eatin' is cheatin'".

Rob

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Aaron,

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com> wrote:

> There isn=E2=80=99t a critical mass who wants to meet again this week, in=
 my
> opinion. My advice for those who want have something to share is to send
> email. :) We=E2=80=99ll do this again in Montreal. THanks for playing!
>

   1. Thank you uber-much for doing the Sunday night session, and being
   willing to consider doing a second session later in the week.
   2. You and the program committee did an awesome job in the background.
   3. Spencer's opinion, and only Spencer's opinion, is that Sunday night
   is a better slot than I expected, because the story then is "do your pit=
ch,
   and you have the entire week following to talk in the hallway, go to bar=
s,
   schedule on-site side meetings, find an AD and request a mailing list (I=
've
   already approved two), or whatever you can do more easily face-to-face t=
han
   you can do after you get on a plane and fly home. It's not clear how muc=
h
   face to face work you can do after a Thursday evening pitch - maybe a
   slumber party, but that's probably insane for most participants.
   4. The IESG is being as hands-off as we know how to be, and I asked the
   IAB members who planned to attend to "be gentle" when the IESG and IAB m=
et
   at noon on Sunday. Aaron's decision not to take any questions was perfec=
t,
   because no one is going to tackle you as you're walking out of the room =
in
   order to stop you.
   5. The IESG would like to know more about how this is working for people
   who pitched ideas. I've heard anecdotal evidence of a presenter who spen=
t
   Monday answering e-mail from people who want to collaborate. If you woul=
d
   like to share your experience, please send it to me unicast and I will
   summarize for the IESG.
   6. If there's something the IESG needs to know really soon, there WILL
   be an Open Mike line at the plenary tonight.

Spencer, as one of the IESG members who sponsored this event (Alia was the
other - and she had all the energy in Singapore :-)


> --aaron
>
> On 19 Mar 2018, at 14:31, Aaron Falk wrote:
>
> I=E2=80=99ve had a little interest in holding another =E2=80=9CRequest fo=
r Conversation=E2=80=9D
> lightning talk session towards the end of the week. If you have an opinio=
n,
> please complete this Doodle poll before Tuesday noon GMT.
>
> https://doodle.com/poll/wezrm487648q3qu3
>
> Thanks,
>
> --aaron
>
> On 18 Mar 2018, at 16:22, Aaron Falk wrote:
>
> Hi Folks-
>
> I've posted the order for tonight's talks on the BoF wiki:
>
> https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#HotRFCLightningTalks.
>
> The event starts at 1800 tonight in the Balmoral room. Will probably run =
a
> bit over 90 minutes.
>
> --aaron
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Aaron,=C2=A0<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Aaron Falk <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aaron.falk@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">aaron.falk@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>




<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><div style=3D"white-space:normal"><p =
dir=3D"auto">There isn=E2=80=99t a critical mass who wants to meet again th=
is week, in my opinion.  My advice for those who want have something to sha=
re is to send email.  :)    We=E2=80=99ll do this again in Montreal.  THank=
s for playing!</p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><ol><li>Thank you ube=
r-much for doing the Sunday night session, and being willing to consider do=
ing a second session later in the week.</li><li>You and the program committ=
ee did an awesome job in the background.=C2=A0</li><li>Spencer&#39;s opinio=
n, and only Spencer&#39;s opinion, is that Sunday night is a better slot th=
an I expected, because the story then is &quot;do your pitch, and you have =
the entire week following to talk in the hallway, go to bars, schedule on-s=
ite side meetings, find an AD and request a mailing list (I&#39;ve already =
approved two), or whatever you can do more easily face-to-face than you can=
 do after you get on a plane and fly home. It&#39;s not clear how much face=
 to face work you can do after a Thursday evening pitch - maybe a slumber p=
arty, but that&#39;s probably insane for most participants.=C2=A0</li><li>T=
he IESG is being as hands-off as we know how to be, and I asked the IAB mem=
bers who planned to attend to &quot;be gentle&quot; when the IESG and IAB m=
et at noon on Sunday. Aaron&#39;s decision not to take any questions was pe=
rfect, because no one is going to tackle you as you&#39;re walking out of t=
he room in order to stop you.=C2=A0</li><li>The IESG would like to know mor=
e about how this is working for people who pitched ideas. I&#39;ve heard an=
ecdotal evidence of a presenter who spent Monday answering e-mail from peop=
le who want to collaborate. If you would like to share your experience, ple=
ase send it to me unicast and I will summarize for the IESG.</li><li>If the=
re&#39;s something the IESG needs to know really soon, there WILL be an Ope=
n Mike line at the plenary tonight.=C2=A0</li></ol><div>Spencer, as one of =
the IESG members who sponsored this event (Alia was the other - and she had=
 all the energy in Singapore :-)</div></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><div style=3D"w=
hite-space:normal"><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">
<p dir=3D"auto">--aaron</p></font></span><div><div class=3D"h5">
<p dir=3D"auto">On 19 Mar 2018, at 14:31, Aaron Falk wrote:</p>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid #777;color:#777;margin:0 0 5px;p=
adding-left:5px"><p dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99ve had a little interest in hold=
ing another =E2=80=9CRequest for Conversation=E2=80=9D lightning talk sessi=
on towards the end of the week.  If you have an opinion, please complete th=
is Doodle poll before Tuesday noon GMT.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://doodle.com/poll/wezrm487648q3qu3" style=3D"color:#777" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://doodle.com/poll/<wbr>wezrm487648q3qu3</a><br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
--aaron<br>
<br>
On 18 Mar 2018, at 16:22, Aaron Falk wrote:<br>
</p>
<blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid #777;color:#999;margin:0 0 5px;p=
adding-left:5px;border-left-color:#999"><p dir=3D"auto">Hi Folks-<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve posted the order for tonight&#39;s talks on the BoF wiki:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#HotRFCLightn=
ingTalks" style=3D"color:#999" target=3D"_blank">https://trac.tools.ietf.or=
g/<wbr>bof/trac/wiki/WikiStart#<wbr>HotRFCLightningTalks</a>.<br>
<br>
The event starts at 1800 tonight in the Balmoral room.  Will probably run a=
 bit over 90 minutes.<br>
<br>
--aaron</p>
</blockquote></blockquote></div></div></div>
</div>
</div>

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I'm having trouble connecting to dnsop@jabber.ietf.org (and could not
enter the groupchat during yesterday's dnsop meeting). It worked during
previous IETF meetings.

via our .org's jabber server:

<@root> isc - Error: Error joining groupchat dnsop@jabber.ietf.org/muks: remote-server-timeout: Authentication failed: Peer provided no SASL mechanisms

via a different jabber server:

<@root> banu - Error: Error joining groupchat dnsop@jabber.ietf.org/muks: forbidden: Access denied by service policy

If s2s traffic is restricted, I'm not able to find information on how to
register on jabber.ietf.org either. Web search didn't turn up anything
useful, and <https://jabber.ietf.org/> redirects to
<https://www.ietf.org/jabber/> which 404s.

		Mukund


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On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 05:25:45PM +0530, Mukund Sivaraman wrote:
> I'm having trouble connecting to dnsop@jabber.ietf.org (and could not
> enter the groupchat during yesterday's dnsop meeting). It worked during
> previous IETF meetings.
> 
> via our .org's jabber server:
> 
> <@root> isc - Error: Error joining groupchat dnsop@jabber.ietf.org/muks: remote-server-timeout: Authentication failed: Peer provided no SASL mechanisms
> 
> via a different jabber server:
> 
> <@root> banu - Error: Error joining groupchat dnsop@jabber.ietf.org/muks: forbidden: Access denied by service policy
> 
> If s2s traffic is restricted, I'm not able to find information on how to
> register on jabber.ietf.org either. Web search didn't turn up anything
> useful, and <https://jabber.ietf.org/> redirects to
> <https://www.ietf.org/jabber/> which 404s.

Nevermind, after sending this email, I found this:
https://ietf.org/how/meetings/jabber/

I'll contact the email address on that page.

		Mukund


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Indeed.

There is just what seems to be some easily annoyed by chatter part of
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> In my last flight to the States a few months ago, I, and at least a
> couple of dozen other passengers, were selected for extra security
> checks, which included a full search of hand luggage, and an
> explosive check against shoes.  It looked like the vast majority of
> passengers boarded as usual, unaware of the checks, but the process
> took some 20 minutes, hence presumably the requirement to arrive in
> good time.  Maybe they're checking more passengers now.

There are two things here.  The first is "conformance," and this
requires you to be through the first boarding pass check and in the
queue for the main security check at least 35 minutes before boarding
time.  However, I'd consider that to be cutting it fine...

The second is "secondary screening" that some passengers to the US are
selected for.  If you have SSSS on your boarding pass (if you are
unable to get a boarding pass online, being selected for secondary
screening is one possible cause), that's extra time required at the
gate, so head to the gate in plenty of time.

Either way, two hours before departure is a reasonable time to arrive
at LHR, even if three is offically recommended for intercontinental
flights.

As Jim says, if in doubt "check with your airline."

Cheers,
Rob

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On 21/03/2018 13:43, Tim Chown wrote:
> In my last flight to the States a few months ago, I, and at least a couple of dozen other passengers, were selected for extra security checks, which included a full search of hand luggage, and an explosive check against shoes.  It looked like the vast majority of passengers boarded as usual, unaware of the checks, but the process took some 20 minutes, hence presumably the requirement to arrive in good time.  Maybe they're checking more passengers now.

I also got this in the last few days at boarding.

They had a real good look at all bag compartments, electronics, shoes, 
feet, and palms of hands. I was through in five minutes, but also I was 
probably one of the first in the list to be stopped on that flight.

The implication was that doors would not be closed before those people 
who were sidelined were also processed. (Or flagged and taken elsewhere.)

S.


>> On 21 Mar 2018, at 13:06, Lixia Zhang <lixia@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Just one data point: I’m taking a direct flight back to LA, didn’t see additional security check after the first one, ended up getting to the gate a bit too early (yes too early is way better than too late)
>>
>> Lixia (from my  iPhone)
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>>> On Mar 21, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
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>>>> On 21 Mar 2018, at 07:08, Sumandra Majee <smajee@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am assuming 2 hrs headroom is plenty for international departure from Heathrow to US. However I recall hearing something in the contrary, anybody with personal experience?
>>> Two hours should be fine. Though if anything goes wrong -- bad weather, equipment failure, etc -- queues at Heathrow will get very large very quickly because everything's working at near peak capacity all of the time. Check-in online if you can (always a good idea) as that's one less queue to worry about. As I said earlier, you *have* to be in the queue for security theatre at least 45 minutes or so before departure. The automated gates in front of the goons and xray machines won't let you go airside if you arrive "too late" for your flight.
>>>
>>> As always, check with your airline. They may have their own rules or change them just for your flight.
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We have had some last minute cancellations.

If you want to come, please let me know.  It will be 40 pounds.

Please meet at Hilton registration at 7:45pm.   Please RSVP to me or Dhruv
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Hello =E2=80=93=20

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A green wool v-neck sweater was found in the plenary hall this evening.=C2=A0=20

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I will leave it with the registration team tomorrow morning.

=20

Jane

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Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org

Skype:  janercoffin

Mobile/WhatsApp:  +1.202.247.8429

From: 101attendees <101attendees-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Kevin Chege=
 <chege@isoc.org>
Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 12:44 PM
To: "101attendees@ietf.org" <101attendees@ietf.org>
Cc: Marsema Tariku <tariku@isoc.org>
Subject: [101attendees] Africa IETF Initiative Session - Wednesday 21st Mar=
ch 12.20PM

=20

Greetings everyone,

=20

There are various activities taking place in Africa to raise the awareness =
of the IETF and encourage more engineers from Africa to participate in the w=
ork being done at the IETF. Last year, there were a few successes and there =
will be a 1 hour session that serves as both a meet and greet and idea shari=
ng session for those interested in participating/helping/learning about the =
initiative. =20

=20

Here are the details:

=20

Date:     Wednesday 21st March 2018

Time:     12:20PM to 1:20PM

Venue:  Room 10-12: Hilton Metropole (IETF Venue)

=20

Draft Agenda:
Introductions and background:  5 mins
2017 Case Study: Story from Addis Ababa University: 15 mins
2018 Initiative Plans: 10 mins=20
Plans for the Hackathon@AIS 2018 (http://hackathon.internetsummitafrica.org=
 )
University engagement
Other activities
Q/A and discussion time - 25 mins
Wrap up =E2=80=93 5 mins=20
=20

=20

The session is open to anyone. Attendees from Africa are highly encouraged =
to attend.

=20

If you would like to attend, kindly RSVP to tariku@isoc.org to help in mana=
ging seating.

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More information in the coming days=20

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Kind Regards

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Kevin G. Chege

ISOC

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o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>A g=
reen wool v-neck sweater was found in the plenary hall this evening.=C2=A0 <o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>I will =
leave it with the registration team tomorrow morning.<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>Jane<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;co=
lor:black'>Internet Society | www.internetsociety.org<o:p></o:p></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Skyp=
e: &nbsp;janercoffin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>Mobile/WhatsApp: &nbsp;+1.202.247.84=
29</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style=3D'bo=
rder:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'color:black'>From: </span></b><span style=3D'color:=
black'>101attendees &lt;101attendees-bounces@ietf.org&gt; on behalf of Kevin=
 Chege &lt;chege@isoc.org&gt;<br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 1=
2:44 PM<br><b>To: </b>&quot;101attendees@ietf.org&quot; &lt;101attendees@iet=
f.org&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>Marsema Tariku &lt;tariku@isoc.org&gt;<br><b>Subject=
: </b>[101attendees] Africa IETF Initiative Session - Wednesday 21st March 1=
2.20PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-=
size:11.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><a name=3D"_=
MailOriginalBody"><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Greetings every=
one,</span><o:p></o:p></a></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_=
MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOrigin=
alBody'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>There are various activit=
ies taking place in Africa to raise the awareness of the IETF and encourage =
more engineers from Africa to participate in the work being done at the IETF=
.&nbsp;Last year, there were a few successes and there will be a 1 hour sess=
ion that serves as both a meet and greet and idea sharing session for those =
interested in participating/helping/learning about the initiative. &nbsp;</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_Mail=
OriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p><=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBo=
dy'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Here are the details:</span><=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOrigi=
nalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><=
b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Date:</span></b></span><span st=
yle=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:bla=
ck'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wednesday 21<sup>st</sup> March 2018</span><o:p=
></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginal=
Body'><b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Time:</span></b></span><=
span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;co=
lor:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 12:20PM to 1:20PM</span><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>Venue:</span></b></span><span style=3D=
'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>=
&nbsp; Room 10-12: Hilton Metropole (IETF Venue)</span><o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
MsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b><span style=3D'font-=
size:11.0pt;color:black'>Draft Agenda:</span></b><o:p></o:p></span></p><ul s=
tyle=3D'margin-top:0in' type=3Ddisc><li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'color:black;mso-l=
ist:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Introductions and background: &nbsp;<i>5 mins</i></span>=
</span><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></li><=
li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style=3D'=
mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>2017 Case Stu=
dy: Story from Addis Ababa University: <i>15 mins</i></span></span><span sty=
le=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D'color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_Ma=
ilOriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>2018 Initiative Plans: 10 min=
s</span></span><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></sp=
an></li><ul style=3D'margin-top:0in' type=3Dcircle><li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'co=
lor:black;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo3'><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBo=
dy'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Plans for the Hackathon@AIS 2018 (</span>=
</span><a href=3D"http://hackathon.internetsummitafrica.org"><span style=3D'mso-=
bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>http://hackathon.=
internetsummitafrica.org</span></span><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOrigina=
lBody'></span></a><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style=3D'=
font-size:11.0pt'> )</span></span><span style=3D'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBod=
y'><o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'color:black;mso-list:l0=
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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 04:30, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> wrote:
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>       We're continuing with the informal Open source routing @ ietf meetup=
. Anyone interested in joining a "bring your own lunch" gathering
> of folks using/building open source routing code, please drop in to
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r just come and listen.
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> Cheers,
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Hey all.

There is a hotel room key sitting on a chair 6 rows from the back. Just =
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Best regards,

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On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 05:28:28PM +0530,
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> Nevermind, after sending this email, I found this:
> https://ietf.org/how/meetings/jabber/
> 
> I'll contact the email address on that page.

Was the problem solved? I have the same issue (and I promised to be
Jabber scribe this afternoon).


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On 22/03/2018 13:19, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:

> Was the problem solved? I have the same issue (and I promised to be
> Jabber scribe this afternoon).

We're pretty sure it's the fault of our corporate jabber server, not the
IETF one.

Ray


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Due to XMPP spam I had to whitelist my own s2s communications. Your server o=
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As an avid tennis fan I'm going to visit Wimbledon tomorrow. Sure, I could =
ask the front desk, but, you locals, what is the best (ie fastest, cheapest=
) way to get there and back. Underground round trip?

Thanks,
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Southwest trains run from Waterloo to Wimbledon every 10 min or so, it's a =
15 min trip on an Oyster card. From Wimbledon station, it's a 10-15 min fas=
t walk to the village.



George



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Subject: [101attendees] Visiting Wimbledon



As an avid tennis fan I'm going to visit Wimbledon tomorrow. Sure, I could =
ask the front desk, but, you locals, what is the best (ie fastest, cheapest=
) way to get there and back. Underground round trip?



Thanks,

mike





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My tips:



  *   The District line runs a straight-through service from Edgware road t=
o Wimbledon, you have a good chance of getting a decent seat on an air-cond=
itioned train.
  *   The Distrcit line is sub-surface line, so many parts are above ground=
 and you can get a view over Putney etc.
  *   The All England Lawn Tennis Club host the Wimbledon Championship and =
a museum. These are best accessed from either Southfields or Wimbledon Park=
 stations on the District line, rather than Wimbledon station.

Lucas
From: 101attendees [mailto:101attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mich=
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Sent: 22 March 2018 13:49
To: 101attendees@ietf.org
Subject: [101attendees] Visiting Wimbledon

As an avid tennis fan I'm going to visit Wimbledon tomorrow. Sure, I could =
ask the front desk, but, you locals, what is the best (ie fastest, cheapest=
) way to get there and back. Underground round trip?

Thanks,
mike

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lfo1"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The District line runs a s=
traight-through service from Edgware road to Wimbledon, you have a good cha=
nce of getting a decent seat on an air-conditioned
 train.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"MsoListParagraph" style=3D"margi=
n-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-=
US">The Distrcit line is sub-surface line, so many parts are above ground a=
nd you can get a view over Putney etc.<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3D"M=
soListParagraph" style=3D"margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><span st=
yle=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The All England Lawn Tennis Club host th=
e Wimbledon Championship and a museum. These are best accessed from either =
Southfields or Wimbledon
 Park stations on the District line, rather than Wimbledon station.<o:p></o=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael McBride<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 22 March 2018 13:49<br>
<b>To:</b> 101attendees@ietf.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [101attendees] Visiting Wimbledon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As an avid tennis fan I&#8217;m=
 going to visit Wimbledon tomorrow. Sure, I could ask the front desk, but, =
you locals, what is the best (ie fastest, cheapest) way to get there and ba=
ck. Underground round trip?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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You can walk to Edgware Station and take the District line to Wimbledon. Not=
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Is there a good android app for summoning taxis in London?
I'm going to a show tonight and don't think that waving one down
at the other end would work well.

Thanks,
Alia

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<div dir="ltr">Is there a good android app for summoning taxis in London?<div>I&#39;m going to a show tonight and don&#39;t think that waving one down</div><div>at the other end would work well.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Alia</div></div>

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Mytaxi works like a charm!

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 at 4:05 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there a good android app for summoning taxis in London?
> I'm going to a show tonight and don't think that waving one down
> at the other end would work well.
>
> Thanks,
> Alia
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Awesome - thanks!

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mytaxi works like a charm!
>
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 at 4:05 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there a good android app for summoning taxis in London?
>> I'm going to a show tonight and don't think that waving one down
>> at the other end would work well.
>>
>> Thanks,
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Awesome - thanks!</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div=
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dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dhruv.ietf@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">d=
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M, Alia Atlas &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:akatlas@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ak=
atlas@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
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> El 22 mar 2018, a las 16:39, Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk> =
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>> On 22 Mar 2018, at 16:07, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Awesome - thanks!
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>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>> Mytaxi works like a charm!=20
>>=20
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 at 4:05 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there a good android app for summoning taxis in London?
>> I'm going to a show tonight and don't think that waving one down
>> at the other end would work well.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Alia
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type=3D"cite" class=3D"">On 22 Mar 2018, at 16:07, Alia Atlas =
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thanks!<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:06 PM, =
Dhruv Dhody &lt;dhruv.ietf@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br class=3D"">Mytaxi =
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class=3D"">Thanks,<br class=3D"">Alia<br =
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Basically the only part of my brain that is still working (laptop and
cellphone) has been located.

Thanks to all the folks who encouraged me while we were separated.

Enjoy your IETF. Life is good, and just got really good.

Spencer

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:32 PM, IESG Secretary <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
wrote:

> MISSING: Dell laptop, blue shoulder bag, Samsung Galaxy J5 phone, white
> charger
>
> Last seen in Sandringham between the TSVWG and DNSOP sessions.
>
> If found, please return to Spencer Dawkins (currently wearing a bright
> yellow
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Basically the only part of my brain that is still working =
(laptop and cellphone) has been located.=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>Thanks to=
 all the folks who encouraged me while we were separated.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Enjoy your IETF. Life is good, and just got really good.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Spencer<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote">On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:32 PM, IESG Secretary <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:iesg-secretary@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">iesg-secre=
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NG: Dell laptop, blue shoulder bag, Samsung Galaxy J5 phone, white charger<=
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<br>
Last seen in Sandringham between the TSVWG and DNSOP sessions.<br>
<br>
If found, please return to Spencer Dawkins (currently wearing a bright yell=
ow<br>
sweatshirt), who will be sitting in the area between the the West Wing and =
Tower<br>
Wing elevators on the Ground Floor for most of the evening, or return to an=
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<br>
Thank you!<br>
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Well, I'm not the only person who wanders off without looking back ...

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Basically the only part of my brain that is still working (laptop and
> cellphone) has been located.
>
> Thanks to all the folks who encouraged me while we were separated.
>
> Enjoy your IETF. Life is good, and just got really good.
>
> Spencer
>

When I sat down at the IANA desk to send my last e-mail, I noticed that
there was a US white Apple charger, with a white UK adapter, stuck in the
power strip on the IANA desk.

The secretariat is off to a wonderfully deserved evening, so I'll keep this
charger with me until I see them at about 7:30 Friday morning, and hand it
to them. If you see me tonight and it's yours, it's in my shoulder bag
which I won't lose again, and I'm likely to be in the seating area between
the East and West tower elevators from 10 pm until pretty close to midnight
tonight.

After that, please check with the secretariat. They never lose anything.

Spencer

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n Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 7:41 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
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nks to all the folks who encouraged me while we were separated.</div><div><=
br></div><div>Enjoy your IETF. Life is good, and just got really good.</div=
><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div><br></div></font></spa=
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m 10 pm until pretty close to midnight tonight.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><=
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Hi,

If you have a lot of British coins AND an Oyster card, consider 
topping up your card with the coins, thereby storing them 
electronically for your next trip to London. The machines will
take £2, £1, 50p, 20p and 10p coins.

Ole


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Hi Jim. Just in case no one mentioned, there is a wg in Blenheim until 1430...

Lou


On March 23, 2018 8:51:02 AM Jim Martin <jim@daedelus.com> wrote:

> Gentlepeople,
> 	As the meeting comes to a close, we wanted to update everyone on the 
> shutdown schedule for the IETF Network. The wireless APs that deliver the 
> main IETF networks in the Hilton Metropole meeting rooms will be removed 
> throughout the day today as sessions come to a close. The Terminal Room 
> will be closing at 3pm.
>
> 	As there is an ISOC meeting this weekend following the IETF, we’re able to 
> keep the “ietf-hotel” wireless SSID active through Sunday, though on a 
> best-effort basis due to very limited staff. There will be a short 
> disruption of the hotel network at approximately 10am this morning, as we 
> transition to the smaller configuration for the weekend.
>
> 	Let me thank Cisco, Juniper, Ubiquiti and A10 again for their 
> contributions of equipment, and British Telecom for the Internet circuits.
>
> 	We hope you all have a good trip home and look forward to seeing everyone 
> in Montreal!
>
> 	- Jim and the NOC Team
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Hello IETFers

We do have a very limited supply of IETF 101 t-shirts left. Only in Small and 2XL sizes. The t-shirts are located at end of the IETF Registration Table for pick-up.


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Thank you Jim and the NOC team for all your hard work in ensuring an excell=
ent network experience this week. Greatly appreciated.

Regards
Suresh
________________________________
From: 101attendees <101attendees-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Lou Berger =
<lberger@labn.net>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 11:29:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [101attendees] [101all] IETF 101 Network Shutdown Schedule

Hi Jim. Just in case no one mentioned, there is a wg in Blenheim until 1430=
...

Lou


On March 23, 2018 8:51:02 AM Jim Martin <jim@daedelus.com> wrote:

> Gentlepeople,
>        As the meeting comes to a close, we wanted to update everyone on t=
he
> shutdown schedule for the IETF Network. The wireless APs that deliver the
> main IETF networks in the Hilton Metropole meeting rooms will be removed
> throughout the day today as sessions come to a close. The Terminal Room
> will be closing at 3pm.
>
>        As there is an ISOC meeting this weekend following the IETF, we=92=
re able to
> keep the =93ietf-hotel=94 wireless SSID active through Sunday, though on =
a
> best-effort basis due to very limited staff. There will be a short
> disruption of the hotel network at approximately 10am this morning, as we
> transition to the smaller configuration for the weekend.
>
>        Let me thank Cisco, Juniper, Ubiquiti and A10 again for their
> contributions of equipment, and British Telecom for the Internet circuits=
.
>
>        We hope you all have a good trip home and look forward to seeing e=
veryone
> in Montreal!
>
>        - Jim and the NOC Team
> _______________________________________________
> 101all mailing list
> 101all@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/101all


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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 23, 2018 11:29:57 AM<br>
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wg in Blenheim until 1430...<br>
<br>
Lou<br>
<br>
<br>
On March 23, 2018 8:51:02 AM Jim Martin &lt;jim@daedelus.com&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Gentlepeople,<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As the meeting comes to a cl=
ose, we wanted to update everyone on the <br>
&gt; shutdown schedule for the IETF Network. The wireless APs that deliver =
the <br>
&gt; main IETF networks in the Hilton Metropole meeting rooms will be remov=
ed <br>
&gt; throughout the day today as sessions come to a close. The Terminal Roo=
m <br>
&gt; will be closing at 3pm.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As there is an ISOC meeting =
this weekend following the IETF, we=92re able to
<br>
&gt; keep the =93ietf-hotel=94 wireless SSID active through Sunday, though =
on a <br>
&gt; best-effort basis due to very limited staff. There will be a short <br=
>
&gt; disruption of the hotel network at approximately 10am this morning, as=
 we <br>
&gt; transition to the smaller configuration for the weekend.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Let me thank Cisco, Juniper,=
 Ubiquiti and A10 again for their <br>
&gt; contributions of equipment, and British Telecom for the Internet circu=
its.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We hope you all have a good =
trip home and look forward to seeing everyone
<br>
&gt; in Montreal!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Jim and the NOC Team<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; 101all mailing list<br>
&gt; 101all@ietf.org<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/101all">https://www.i=
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Subject: Re: [101attendees] [101all] IETF 101 Network Shutdown Schedule
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> On 23 Mar 2018, at 12:08, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
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>> On 23 Mar 2018, at 11:57, Suresh Krishnan <Suresh@kaloom.com> wrote:
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>> Thank you Jim and the NOC team for all your hard work in ensuring an exc=
ellent network experience this week. Greatly appreciated.=20

Yep, excellent.

And the three MTD tickets I opened were all dealt with quickly and with goo=
d results.

Tim


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I realized today that I had meant to respond to this thread last =
Wednesday but failed to do so.

I appreciate that some people were frustrated by the queues for food at =
the social event. IETF social events are organized and paid for by our =
corporate sponsors. Having the social event is an additional benefit to =
the community that sponsors can choose to provide. They all go to great =
lengths to ensure that IETF attendees have an enjoyable experience. =
These events are not easy to plan and involve a new and different set of =
constraints each time because the meeting locations, available venues, =
and sponsors change at each meeting. If sponsors generally feel that =
their efforts are not appreciated, we run the risk of them choosing not =
to put on social events in the future. So I would ask that people take =
all of this into consideration when complaining about the social event =
on the list in the future. The sponsors and the secretariat were aware =
of the queues and the secretariat will be reviewing the meeting host =
manual to ensure that the guidance provided there addresses this issue.

Thanks,
Alissa Cooper
IETF Chair


