From nobody Sat Apr 25 21:50:03 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8851B3569 for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 21:50:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -14.51 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-14.51 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QhywClLCrzMs for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 21:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-8.cisco.com (alln-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.142.95]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 141C31B3566 for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 21:50:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3055; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1430023801; x=1431233401; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=Cy3mtCYPClN5a447F+WaLnl+4CAY6vDQyqjdm5WGF2Q=; b=bTR5HNAKWHnmrtkusxEYAEJuTQdxl3FD0idiaIXY7uh7tCtf3MicvcjF I5u3uyP1Xu+wOr6GppaQ23rAlXdjGG/UcKmtcJmk0exVmrf4u9bUkqmwE gjGT8YyXToPxb2bu/6zElmyqOj82RSQCxsbtpxjrCwkuHQNwC7IAvUM0P c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0BUBACGbTxV/40NJK1cgkVHU2HFNGYJh1YCgSw4FAEBAQEBAQGBCoQiAQQtXgEMHlYmAQQbiCOiUaMYAQEBAQEFAQEBAQEBHJAMg0+BFgWRVYo6lWAjg3SCM4EAAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.11,649,1422921600"; d="scan'208,217";a="144481726" Received: from alln-core-8.cisco.com ([173.36.13.141]) by alln-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 26 Apr 2015 04:50:00 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com [173.37.183.81]) by alln-core-8.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t3Q4o0bm030236 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 04:50:00 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x01.cisco.com ([169.254.1.235]) by xhc-rcd-x07.cisco.com ([173.37.183.81]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Sat, 25 Apr 2015 23:50:00 -0500 From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" To: "6tisch-security@ietf.org" <6tisch-security@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: opening the ML Thread-Index: AdB/3FiAqFxGr2RiS1SB4TLqivEZ+Q== Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 04:49:32 +0000 Deferred-Delivery: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 04:50:00 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.61.81.142] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_E045AECD98228444A58C61C200AE1BD849E0E9C1xmbrcdx01ciscoc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [6tisch-security] opening the ML X-BeenThere: 6tisch-security@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security architecture <6tisch-security.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 04:50:02 -0000 --_000_E045AECD98228444A58C61C200AE1BD849E0E9C1xmbrcdx01ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all We've got complains that the ML was closed. I was thinking, could we open it to anyone but yet maintain the DT as is? Cheers, Pascal --_000_E045AECD98228444A58C61C200AE1BD849E0E9C1xmbrcdx01ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all

 

We’ve got complains that the ML was closed.

I was thinking, could we open it to anyone but yet m= aintain the DT as is?

 

Cheers,

 

Pascal

--_000_E045AECD98228444A58C61C200AE1BD849E0E9C1xmbrcdx01ciscoc_-- From nobody Sun Apr 26 06:10:38 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B021A1BA2 for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:10:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yu0Ixgq-wrZq for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-f181.google.com (mail-pd0-f181.google.com [209.85.192.181]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28C431A1BCA for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pdbqa5 with SMTP id qa5so99211087pdb.1 for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:10:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=OLMfFpcBrNk67dFpqWW7v5r5PwZkYHvaD3edIhgM5j4=; b=fLb7cg9UPoedSSenMRaEdoJEqVfqWsPSgfOCZDiCMRa2/cTx7ercHrh+0wUYbyy0ca FkWhsDUH/2ESS52s5GJGZjgsnTpEhMp8gT8JqOF7bmFlCbMKrp+G+zsI9iuN5ZPNdtjE DX8/r8lR2zyLYRT60cFfEk/esirDOahUY4+vFF7FFIz90Szo6PvFo1u8vHmI/zkTIag0 BrsdUg06AuaJ/ozwhNUzSSLAUjO78EOq7QCQ2T0TxBAwu1yCPCD84L0NIdKdJ0TO2Fl5 fmup2IIIBm7j6oJXBsyWCXGVm2ny8l7WQcD3W4kNgRv9jflGaWGeAyxb4fYpYopCqNrt LueA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmedTwLaWC4Gc/0IdlLTPjWG3E4u6ckiBQY1ZXYWbArbXIoBMo2rJac6QDhxMrmgQhBbcxx X-Received: by 10.68.112.195 with SMTP id is3mr13674975pbb.92.1430053831814; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.3] ([98.210.76.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gl2sm16374164pbc.52.2015.04.26.06.10.29 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <553CE3BE.4010806@berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 06:10:22 -0700 From: Kris Pister User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" , "6tisch-security@ietf.org" <6tisch-security@ietf.org> References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080608010103080703020502" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [6tisch-security] opening the ML X-BeenThere: 6tisch-security@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security architecture <6tisch-security.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 13:10:36 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080608010103080703020502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have no objection. ksjp On 4/25/2015 9:49 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > > Dear all > > We’ve got complains that the ML was closed. > > I was thinking, could we open it to anyone but yet maintain the DT as is? > > Cheers, > > Pascal > > > > _______________________________________________ > 6tisch-security mailing list > 6tisch-security@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch-security --------------080608010103080703020502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have no objection.

ksjp

On 4/25/2015 9:49 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:

Dear all

 

We’ve got complains that the ML was closed.

I was thinking, could we open it to anyone but yet maintain the DT as is?

 

Cheers,

 

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--------------080608010103080703020502-- From nobody Sun Apr 26 07:02:17 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE001A9041 for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 07:02:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.277 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.277 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P7jboTKyqn8U for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x22a.google.com (mail-pd0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42F491A87C6 for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by pdbqa5 with SMTP id qa5so99997461pdb.1 for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 07:02:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=rhQzOPpdtjYQDXtrHAO4OxOBEMyhBe9aoJavMrxlMRo=; b=AOI0eBz8Jv+p502wEhsZZx5kSz/EaOpiqABhrayUbrwHa+uKyBCB7a4E7d05Z+bo8o JJYw8zyBrfRjLupyHxo/LuDx28R8De+B7wBo/3n9lq1lUs78CHMVNf1TgI+t7IGCihcz HoXfKUSVTV8ORLlD2Axb1Yr9WjSjgrsLy33eIGvOySYW1LUaN0ZJ9kJW9g+JtAjSfBqx LVWv3ujcv1+5/GdoxG9Vw1JJU+HJqmHrgrN19h7S2BlVW9u4g/Nbglfk/om7xg/Vx5JH ICVnw1dnv+Xkv9PqEEmZmVtvz7wTHKUlJ9tuZJIRUq9isstJRLx3sHIp4I+Z5c3UABD7 P9Vw== X-Received: by 10.68.102.1 with SMTP id fk1mr14081189pbb.56.1430056933950; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 07:02:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: gpiro.poliba@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.99.33 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 07:01:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <553CE3BE.4010806@berkeley.edu> References: <553CE3BE.4010806@berkeley.edu> From: Giuseppe Piro Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:01:43 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xn1a4ky_pPGi9_6Ml1hYj7J0YwA Message-ID: To: Kris Pister Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6050308e8b330514a113a9 Archived-At: Cc: "Pascal Thubert \(pthubert\)" , "6tisch-security@ietf.org" <6tisch-security@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6tisch-security] opening the ML X-BeenThere: 6tisch-security@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security architecture <6tisch-security.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 14:02:16 -0000 --047d7b6050308e8b330514a113a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable me too Giuseppe On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Kris Pister wrote: > I have no objection. > > ksjp > > > On 4/25/2015 9:49 PM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > > Dear all > > > > We=E2=80=99ve got complains that the ML was closed. > > I was thinking, could we open it to anyone but yet maintain the DT as is? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Pascal > > > _______________________________________________ > 6tisch-security mailing list6tisch-security@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/= mailman/listinfo/6tisch-security > > > > _______________________________________________ > 6tisch-security mailing list > 6tisch-security@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch-security > > --=20 *Giuseppe Piro, PhD* Post Doc Researcher DEI, Politecnico di Bari via Orabona 4 - 70125 (Bari), Italy. email: giuseppe.piro@poliba.it phone: +39 080 5963301 web: telematics.poliba.it/piro --047d7b6050308e8b330514a113a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--047d7b6050308e8b330514a113a9-- From nobody Sun Apr 26 08:24:50 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 312551B2A24 for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:24:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hsAM_3xEFAUk for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-x231.google.com (mail-ie0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11D081B2A20 for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iebrs15 with SMTP id rs15so111684279ieb.3 for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:24:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type; bh=e011C5or87ecuhDGmfWL7FqSq4gW38MzdezguPzHmkU=; b=dCUp/wv8vV2GvHBPTsnh/o+BotkdL0uuoYYfwhskMSxVo8EsKKIxznAwiIjxkFClRa JgRG4iUsOngBWLeBuHXjcUAuhWDKSKgZwoE+O5YPGX7EYcXoje3DzNb40HN2OCRTJy8g qf2NvqnHdP2iuOKdOyY17ivV2BsOQRaZrrBx0Wru1wO3mU4ZQuPiFoZOxT2p3XcQdpNt D7MhFz5++OTyGUltDS/tgLooPX8MPwjxRlAUsnNUCkjnAAZMv1DIFs5vTPFm1PPg8f2M cgyXpJMkRpacNea8Har/5eC+PFLcRPW2Qb60nrM3W2JisOuvYHeu1qVFwsjQgKyGBIJW 6jEw== X-Received: by 10.107.136.25 with SMTP id k25mr8857008iod.88.1430061885639; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.14] (CPE7cb21b2cb904-CM7cb21b2cb901.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com. [99.231.49.38]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i185sm2791684ioi.24.2015.04.26.08.24.44 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <553D033C.8080705@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 11:24:44 -0400 From: Rene Struik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" , "6tisch-security@ietf.org" <6tisch-security@ietf.org> References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000604060604080103070002" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [6tisch-security] opening the ML X-BeenThere: 6tisch-security@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security architecture <6tisch-security.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:24:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000604060604080103070002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Pascal: Just curious as to the source of the "complaints" you apparently received. The mailing list has a huge membership (26 people), much larger than would normally constitute a Design Team. From this list, it seems hard to argue that anyone has been left out. In fact, I think the list is unwieldy. Best regards, Rene On 4/26/2015 12:49 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: > > Dear all > > We’ve got complains that the ML was closed. > > I was thinking, could we open it to anyone but yet maintain the DT as is? > > Cheers, > > Pascal > > > > _______________________________________________ > 6tisch-security mailing list > 6tisch-security@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch-security -- email: rstruik.ext@gmail.com | Skype: rstruik cell: +1 (647) 867-5658 | US: +1 (415) 690-7363 --------------000604060604080103070002 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Pascal:

Just curious as to the source of the "complaints" you apparently received. The mailing list has a huge membership (26 people), much larger than would normally constitute a Design Team. From this list, it seems hard to argue that anyone has been left out. In fact, I think the list is unwieldy.

Best regards, Rene

On 4/26/2015 12:49 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:

Dear all

 

We’ve got complains that the ML was closed.

I was thinking, could we open it to anyone but yet maintain the DT as is?

 

Cheers,

 

Pascal



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--------------000604060604080103070002-- From nobody Sun Apr 26 15:19:58 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 912631ACD2E for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:19:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pVVgNtTpQaPa for <6tisch-security@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.104]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 271EF1ACD1D for <6tisch-security@ietf.org>; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:19:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.7] ([98.228.244.165]) by p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id LmKt1q0023aqDrW01mKuDN; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:19:55 -0700 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-FCEC0E6A-B991-4383-98D7-F9F36EC97208 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Pat Kinney X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (12F70) In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:19:52 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <70D47B1C-AD50-42B2-B340-39497BE19480@kinneyconsultingllc.com> References: To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" Archived-At: Cc: "6tisch-security@ietf.org" <6tisch-security@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [6tisch-security] opening the ML X-BeenThere: 6tisch-security@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security architecture <6tisch-security.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 22:19:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail-FCEC0E6A-B991-4383-98D7-F9F36EC97208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also have no objection. Patrick Kinney Kinney Consulting +1.847.960.3715 pat.kinney@kinneyconsultingllc.com > On Apr 25, 2015, at 23:49, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) w= rote: >=20 > Dear all > =20 > We=E2=80=99ve got complains that the ML was closed. > I was thinking, could we open it to anyone but yet maintain the DT as is? > =20 > Cheers, > =20 > Pascal > _______________________________________________ > 6tisch-security mailing list > 6tisch-security@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch-security --Apple-Mail-FCEC0E6A-B991-4383-98D7-F9F36EC97208 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Apr 25, 2015, at 23:49, Pascal Thubert (pthube= rt) <pthubert@cisco.com> wro= te:

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Dear all

 

We=E2=80=99ve got complains that the ML was closed. <= o:p>

I was thinking, could we open it to anyone but yet ma= intain the DT as is?

 

Cheers,

 

Pascal

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This was the design from the start. The first complaint I got was probably = from Hannes, but that keeps coming. It appears that one of the arguments for creating a similar team at 6lo is = that ours was "opaque". Cheers, Pascal From: Rene Struik [mailto:rstruik.ext@gmail.com] Sent: dimanche 26 avril 2015 17:25 To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert); 6tisch-security@ietf.org Subject: Re: [6tisch-security] opening the ML Hi Pascal: Just curious as to the source of the "complaints" you apparently received. = The mailing list has a huge membership (26 people), much larger than would = normally constitute a Design Team. From this list, it seems hard to argue t= hat anyone has been left out. In fact, I think the list is unwieldy. Best regards, Rene On 4/26/2015 12:49 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: Dear all We've got complains that the ML was closed. I was thinking, could we open it to anyone but yet maintain the DT as is? Cheers, Pascal _______________________________________________ 6tisch-security mailing list 6tisch-security@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch-security -- email: rstruik.ext@gmail.com | Skype: rstruik cell: +1 (647) 867-5658 | US: +1 (415) 690-7363 --_000_E045AECD98228444A58C61C200AE1BD849E0EF3Exmbrcdx01ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Ren=E9:<= /span>

 

There was an official = DT and then a consulting team who would contribute but was not to edit text= .

This was the design fr= om the start. The first complaint I got was probably from Hannes, but that = keeps coming.

It appears that one of= the arguments for creating a similar team at 6lo is that ours was “o= paque”.

 

Cheers,

 

Pascal

 

From: Rene Struik [mailto:rstruik.ext@gmail.com]
Sent: dimanche 26 avril 2015 17:25
To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert); 6tisch-security@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [6tisch-security] opening the ML

 

Hi Pascal:

Just curious as to the source of the "complaints" you apparently = received. The mailing list has a huge membership (26 people), much larger t= han would normally constitute a Design Team. From this list, it seems hard = to argue that anyone has been left out. In fact, I think the list is unwieldy.

Best regards, Rene

On 4/26/2015 12:49 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote:

Dear all

 

We’ve got complains that the ML was closed.

I was thinking, could we open it to anyone but yet m= aintain the DT as is?

 

Cheers,

 

Pascal

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creation-date="Mon, 27 Apr 2015 12:53:49 GMT"; modification-date="Mon, 27 Apr 2015 12:53:49 GMT" From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" To: Hannes Tschofenig , "6tisch-security@ietf.org" <6tisch-security@ietf.org> CC: "6tisch@ietf.org" <6tisch@ietf.org> Subject: RE: [6tisch] Question: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security architecture Thread-Topic: [6tisch] Question: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security architecture Thread-Index: AQHPQtNPIOdkYPAl80iiBr8YT2rh3JrqKh7A Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:57:55 +0000 Deferred-Delivery: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:58:00 +0000 References: <532888A0.3050901@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <532888A0.3050901@gmx.net> Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi Hannes: Sorry for the confusion; the 6tisch-security@ietf.org mailing list is a limited list that is used to= support talks on 6TiSCH security architecture by Design Team members and e= xtended Consulting Team members. 6TiSCH has formed a dedicated Design Team = to work the security component of the architecture and established a weekly= call on Mondays with regular reports both at the 6TiSCH weekly or at the W= G meetings. An extended Consulting Team helps in the task. People who wish to participate need to contact the 6TiSCH chairs or Michael= Richardson would leads the DT. There might still be a bit of a churn between DT and CT but at this moment = the DT members are: Michael Richardson, Ren=E9 Struik, Tom Phinney, Subir Das, Michael Behringe= r, Jonathan Simon, Nancy Cam-Winget and Yoshihiro Ohba. And the CT members are Kris Pister, Giuseppe Piro, Thomas Watteyne, Pascal Thubert and Paul Duffy. The extended CT adds so far: Patrick Wetterwald, Maik Seewald, Hank Mauldin and Ines Robles. Cheers, Pascal > -----Original Message----- > From: 6tisch [mailto:6tisch-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hannes Tschofe= nig > Sent: mardi 18 mars 2014 18:56 > To: 6tisch@ietf.org > Subject: [6tisch] Question: Extended Design Team for 6TiSCH security > architecture > > Hi all, > > I just saw the announcement of a design team mailing list and I checked t= he > mailing for the announcement of the design team and I found nothing. > > Ciao > Hannes --_005_E045AECD98228444A58C61C200AE1BD849E0EF3Exmbrcdx01ciscoc_--