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I've been asked to move the Wednesday time slot to a day that isn't
Wednesday, or move it forward 2 hours.

a) move it to Tuesday at 1400UTC (10am EDT, 7am PDT).  [preferred]
b) keep it Wednesday, slide it to 1600UTC (12pm EDT, 9am PDT, 5pm central europe)

I'd like to schedule a meeting next week.


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Hi Michael,

I'd also prefer option a).
So you'll let us know before next Tuesday which option was chosen?

Thanks,
Francesca

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> I've been asked to move the Wednesday time slot to a day that isn't
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> a) move it to Tuesday at 1400UTC (10am EDT, 7am PDT).  [preferred]
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> I'd like to schedule a meeting next week.
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Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com> wrote:
    > I'd also prefer option a).
    > So you'll let us know before next Tuesday which option was chosen?

I'll post on Friday (tomorrow).

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Both work for me Michael, but I prefer a)

Pascal

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I've been asked to move the Wednesday time slot to a day that isn't Wednesd=
ay, or move it forward 2 hours.

a) move it to Tuesday at 1400UTC (10am EDT, 7am PDT).  [preferred]
b) keep it Wednesday, slide it to 1600UTC (12pm EDT, 9am PDT, 5pm central e=
urope)

I'd like to schedule a meeting next week.


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I can try to make either work but would have to shuffle my schedule and
would be easier for me to shift so I can make Wed (option b) so that=B9d be
my preference.

Thanks, Nancy

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>Both work for me Michael, but I prefer a)
>
>Pascal
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Of Michael Richardson
>Sent: jeudi 8 septembre 2016 15:00
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>
>I've been asked to move the Wednesday time slot to a day that isn't
>Wednesday, or move it forward 2 hours.
>
>a) move it to Tuesday at 1400UTC (10am EDT, 7am PDT).  [preferred]
>b) keep it Wednesday, slide it to 1600UTC (12pm EDT, 9am PDT, 5pm central
>europe)
>
>I'd like to schedule a meeting next week.
>
>
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[I believe there is a confusion in the conversion, b) is 6pm central Europe=
]

I can only do a)

On Thursday, September 8, 2016, Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) <
ncamwing@cisco.com> wrote:

> I can try to make either work but would have to shuffle my schedule and
> would be easier for me to shift so I can make Wed (option b) so that=C2=
=B9d be
> my preference.
>
> Thanks, Nancy
>
> On 9/8/16, 7:20 AM, "6tisch-security on behalf of Pascal Thubert
> (pthubert)" <6tisch-security-bounces@ietf.org <javascript:;> on behalf of
> pthubert@cisco.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> >Both work for me Michael, but I prefer a)
> >
> >Pascal
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: 6tisch-security [mailto:6tisch-security-bounces@ietf.org
> <javascript:;>] On Behalf
> >Of Michael Richardson
> >Sent: jeudi 8 septembre 2016 15:00
> >To: tisch-security <6tisch-security@ietf.org <javascript:;>>
> >Subject: [6tisch-security] resuming meetings
> >
> >
> >I've been asked to move the Wednesday time slot to a day that isn't
> >Wednesday, or move it forward 2 hours.
> >
> >a) move it to Tuesday at 1400UTC (10am EDT, 7am PDT).  [preferred]
> >b) keep it Wednesday, slide it to 1600UTC (12pm EDT, 9am PDT, 5pm centra=
l
> >europe)
> >
> >I'd like to schedule a meeting next week.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca <javascript:;>>, Sandelman
> Software Works  -=3D
> >IPv6 IoT consulting =3D-
> >
> >
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would be easier for me to shift so I can make Wed (option b) so that=C2=B9d=
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my preference.<br>
<br>
Thanks, Nancy<br>
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(pthubert)&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, &#39;cvm=
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<br>
&gt;Both work for me Michael, but I prefer a)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Pascal<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;-----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;From: 6tisch-security [mailto:<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(ev=
ent, &#39;cvml&#39;, &#39;6tisch-security-bounces@ietf.org&#39;)">6tisch-se=
curity-bounces@ietf.org</a>] On Behalf<br>
&gt;Of Michael Richardson<br>
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&gt;Subject: [6tisch-security] resuming meetings<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;I&#39;ve been asked to move the Wednesday time slot to a day that isn&#=
39;t<br>
&gt;Wednesday, or move it forward 2 hours.<br>
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Michael Richardson writes:
> I've been asked to move the Wednesday time slot to a day that isn't
> Wednesday, or move it forward 2 hours.
> 
> a) move it to Tuesday at 1400UTC (10am EDT, 7am PDT).  [preferred]

That is bit difficult for me, and I might not be able to join. Might
be ok for next week.

> b) keep it Wednesday, slide it to 1600UTC (12pm EDT, 9am PDT, 5pm
> central europe) 

This one works for me fine.
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Hi Michael,

Thanks for the poll. I vote for option a).=20

Regards,
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> On 08 Sep 2016, at 14:59, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> =
wrote:
>=20
>=20
> I've been asked to move the Wednesday time slot to a day that isn't
> Wednesday, or move it forward 2 hours.
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> a) move it to Tuesday at 1400UTC (10am EDT, 7am PDT).  [preferred]
> b) keep it Wednesday, slide it to 1600UTC (12pm EDT, 9am PDT, 5pm =
central europe)
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> I'd like to schedule a meeting next week.
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Hello Pascal,

Yes, apologies for not stressing it up front -  b) can also work for me.

Regards,
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> On 09 Sep 2016, at 13:25, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) =
<pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
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> Hello Malisa:
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> Would you be able to make b) though?
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> Regards,
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>> Le 9 sept. 2016 =C3=A0 12:13, Mali=C5=A1a Vu=C4=8Dini=C4=87 =
<malisa.vucinic@inria.fr> a =C3=A9crit :
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>> Hi Michael,
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>> Thanks for the poll. I vote for option a).=20
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>> Regards,
>> Mali=C5=A1a Vu=C4=8Dini=C4=87
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>>> On 08 Sep 2016, at 14:59, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> =
wrote:
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>>>=20
>>> I've been asked to move the Wednesday time slot to a day that isn't
>>> Wednesday, or move it forward 2 hours.
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>>> a) move it to Tuesday at 1400UTC (10am EDT, 7am PDT).  [preferred]
>>> b) keep it Wednesday, slide it to 1600UTC (12pm EDT, 9am PDT, 5pm =
central europe)
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>>> I'd like to schedule a meeting next week.
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(Hi, my appologies for not responding earlier. It's after business hours on
Friday for everyone.  An 100Mb/s switch at my home office died mid-morning,
while I was at the office, leaving my desktop offline, where my IETF email
was.)

I'd like to try for the Tuesday at 1400 UTC until IETF97, as that seems to be
easier for many people.  If there is a big problem, I'm open to reconsidering
a different time.  I prefer to use JITSI for voice and screensharing,
(and video if we have bandwidth).

I would like to meet as follows:

  September 13 1400UTC.
  September 27 1400UTC.
  October   11 1400UTC.
  October   18 1400UTC.
  November   1 1400UTC.

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{after some days in the drafts queue}

Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:
    > About your subdivision:

    > One may note that to root sees it all, and it the ultimate limit of the
    > bandwidth that may be given to join process.

Yes. Very much agreed, and I want to subordinate all join scheduling to the
limit that the root has established.

    > The bigger the network the slower a given JA can accept new joins. And
    > the deeper the JA, the more overall resources will be consumed by a
    > join.

    > Since this is dynamic and dependent on the network, it may be that we
    > need the root to provide JAs with a MTBJ (mean time between joins) that
    > depends on the rank or something.

Yes, that was essentially my goal.


    > We can wonder if the root itself could be the proxy, being triggered by
    > a DAR message as you described. The root can afford to maintain an EST
    > session.
    > The root would arbitrate when that request is being served. And that
    > the root may instruct in the DAC when the device is entitled to
    > continue its join process.

Yes, this is what I want to do: add something to the DAC that instructions
the new device when it should retry.

    > For this purpose, the DIO may contain new information about root
    > capabilities in the DODAG Configuration option.

I agree that the root ought to have the resources to maintain sessions if
needed, but I don't know if we need that.  The DTLS (or EDHOC) session itself
needs to extend to the new pledge for cryptographic reasons.

    >> What is needed is a way to adjust things so that the pledges will attempt to join
    >> in a way that does not overwhelm the network, and more so, that the proxy
    >> nodes can easily police that they are doing so.

...

    >> This is where the hard part is, how to come up with a simple to describe, and
    >> simple to code algorithm which would fill up the available bandwidth, and be
    >> easily subdividable.

Upon further reflection, I think that the 6LBR shall decide and provide the
interval via the DAC.


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The meeting is in 15 minutes.

JITSI: https://jitsi.tools.ietf.org/6tischSecurity

AGENDA
   0) hello and Note Well.
   1) review since IETF96.
      a) updates on crypto?
      b) updates on network logistics.
   2) state of draft?
   3) who does what?

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To remind: we are meeting 2016-09-27, at 1400UTC (10am EDT).
We meet at: https://jitsi.tools.ietf.org/6tischSecurity
Please try your browser, firewall/etc. beforehand. The room is open.
We will use audio only, so feel free to mute your camera, and use the shared
etherpad within JITSI.

Agenda for this week:
0) note well.
1) approval of agenda
2) minutes from last week.
3) work to do during meeting:
   time sequence diagram for document
      draft-richardson-6tisch-dtsecurity-secure-join
4) possibility to use GRASP from Join Assistant to JCE, since DAR/DAC is off
   the table.


DRAFT MINUTES from 2016-09-13:
AGENDA
   0) hello and Note Well.
   1) review since IETF96.
      a) updates on crypto?
      EDHOC -- dialogue with some crypto people about freshness (of
      initiator) with two-pass protocol. The issue you need to know it's not a
      replay.

        -- go for SIGMA-I protocol.
        SIGMA-I is a design pattern for crypto protocols:
                http://webee.technion.ac.il/~hugo/sigma.html

        Provides identity protection against active attacks of initiator and
        passive attacks of responder.  Three passes, but the total EDHOC +
        OSCOAP can be embedded in two round trips. Similar to what TLS 1.3
        has done.

              -- plan to have an update on document for review, then CFRG
                 review.

      Q: any plans to submit to 802.15.9, or specify how to use it with 15.9?
      A (Tero): need to have KMP defined somewhere (i.e. IETF).  IEEE
            802.15.9 has small appendix to explain how to derive keys for 15.4.  To
            get a number to use, there is an IEEE 802.15 Assigned Number
            Authority. There is a form to do this.
            Some stuff is moving from 802.15.9 to 802.15.12 (upper layer
            interface).

            EDHOC will remain in ACE WG.

      b) updates on network logistics.
        - discussion about whether JCE managed, centrally initiated secured CoAP for join traffic
        - TW suggests that join traffic, if on a seperate track, can be grown
          in bandwidth as required.  So even though 6p can add cells, it can not
          grow all of the cells.

        - TW explains that pledge becomes associated to JA's schedule, and at
          the beginning of the minimal slot, it wakes up to listen, (Rx/Tx).

        - initial show of interest should be part of the protocol, and should
          be part of the security protocol description.

MCR wrote an initial ACTION required:
      a) PRO of centrally initiated
      b) CON of centrally initiated
      c) PRO of pledge initiated
      d) CON of pledge initiated

      TW: if we have a solution that has a lot of round trips, then it is
          better to sequence things.
      TW: if you have a 500-byte frame, then it will take ~5 slotframes to
          send this packet to next hop, possibly about 5s as the slotframe
          repeats each 1s.

      MCR: is there value of the Join Assistant to schedule the pledges/new nodes to initiate?
      TW: if there is multiple nodes talking to the same JA, then there is no contention.

   2) state of draft?
      https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-6tisch-dtsecurity-secure-join/
      https://github.com/ietf-roll/6tisch-secure-join ..


CONCLUSION from above discussion was that JCE initiated join protocol is
still possible, and is better from bandwidth planning point of view.




--
Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
 -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-




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I assume that's Oct 11 and Oct 18?

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Thomas Watteyne <thomas.watteyne@inria.fr> wrote:
    > I assume that's Oct 11 and Oct 18?

Yes, that's correct.

Also to clarify: Pascal also created a webex, but please delete it from your calendar.
The problem with using the cisco employee webex is that you need a cisco
login to admin it (even with the Hostkey).  At least that was the experience
last week.

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