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Please scream at me if this CC is also too wide} peter van der Stok wrote: > bar-boffin is a bit too much for me. > Prefer wine to beer, but can bring my own bottle (glass). > Is the suggestion to connect all this to IoT-T2TRG keying cycles work? oh. Is T2TRG an appropriate place for enrollment-roadmap? please tell me; I've been unable to spend much time on T2TRT. Right now putting it into a wiki seems to be the best suggestion for keeping track of the status of the work. Writing an applicability comparison seems like a document that has value to publish, but not until the work is done. I've put it here: https://trac.ietf.org/trac/int/wiki/EnrollmentRoadmap (why "int" and not iotdir, I don't know. 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