From jhutz@cmu.edu Thu Apr 1 09:22:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 77attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 77attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C0B3A697D for <77attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:22:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.306 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.306 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.163, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q2y7fJ68eDSY for <77attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp01.srv.cs.cmu.edu (SMTP01.SRV.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.217.196]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916703A6939 for <77attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LYSITHEA.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU (LYSITHEA.FAC.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.172.62]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp01.srv.cs.cmu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o31GMP7K027467 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:22:25 -0400 From: Jeffrey Hutzelman To: Jari Arkko , Brian E Carpenter Message-ID: <54B3218FD73BD5F79A250D30@lysithea.fac.cs.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <14316_1270102080_o3167xsE019262_4BB4383B.2070606@piuha.net> References: <4BA8BCE3.5020309@is.naist.jp> <4BA95B6A.5040707@is.naist.jp> <4BAB0464.2010307@is.naist.jp> <4BAB7A4D.7070904@piuha.net> <8133D17D-D9B6-40A6-AE9B-80BF90A5223D@checkpoint.com> <050005AF2D0F493AB38639A33748E8D6@china.huawei.com> <8B0A9FCBB9832F43971E38010638454F03E24ED320@SISPE7MB1.commscope.com> <4BABD0B2.9050003@piuha.net> <4BABDB19.8060403@gmail.com> <027f01cacc69$4847ae10$d8d70a30$@org> <23E6E51A-5D3B-4F94-B32F-7F3545003E03@cisco.com> <53720E57-D96D-458A-8178-5CC3DB496FAD@nokia.com> <4BAC239C.4060004@gmail.com> <4BB0B975.7040100@joelhalpern.com> <4BB24841.2080109@cisco.com> <4BB25142.20904@gmail.com> <4BB26010.9090405@gmail.com> <14316_1270102080_o3167xsE019262_4BB4383B.2070606@piuha.net> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Scanned-By: mimedefang-cmuscs on 128.2.217.196 Cc: Thomas Hardjono , Scott Brim , 77attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [77attendees] Ad hoc meetings (Was: Re: Bar BoF: ip traceback) X-BeenThere: 77attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <77attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:22:28 -0000 --On Thursday, April 01, 2010 08:07:55 AM +0200 Jari Arkko wrote: > And no, I > have not felt forced to participate the ad hoc meetings. I only > participated the ones that I actually cared about. That turned out to be > many, but that's another story... This is an important point. ADs are people too, and should feel free to attend bar bofs or not based on their level of interest, availability, and whether they feel like they need a nap. From shore@arsc.edu Thu Apr 1 10:56:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 77attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 77attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF323A6A10 for <77attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:56:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.284 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.284 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599, DNS_FROM_OPENWHOIS=1.13, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jnbWm4QBLzti for <77attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arsc.edu (mail1.arsc.edu [IPv6:2001:480:150:75::229]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB763A6A1E for <77attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 10:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viking-e0.arsc.edu (viking-e0.arsc.edu [IPv6:2001:480:150:860:223:32ff:feda:4a52]) by arsc.edu (20090828.ARSC) with ESMTP id o31HuiiN013631; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:57:07 -0800 (AKDT) Message-Id: From: Melinda Shore To: Jari Arkko In-Reply-To: <4BB436D3.80201@piuha.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 09:56:44 -0800 References: <114B7D3F-7906-41BE-ABB6-F3BFAB110671@softarmor.com> <4BB1F00B.7070504@gmail.com><4BB2051E.6070204@fandm.edu> <4BB20C6E.4080908@ericsson.com> <4623EEB5D02D4A67BA4CB5ED54F10790@china.huawei.com> <47C61786-20E0-4501-B31A-228FAB76598A@arsc.edu> <4BB436D3.80201@piuha.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-CanIt-Geo: No geolocation information available for 2001:480:150:860:223:32ff:feda:4a52 X-CanItPRO-Stream: default X-Canit-Stats-ID: Bayes signature not available X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on IPv6:2001:480:150:75::167 Cc: 77attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [77attendees] Single Company Meetings (Re: Ad hoc meetings in real meeting rooms) X-BeenThere: 77attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <77attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:56:43 -0000 On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > We discussed this in the IESG some time ago. There are a couple of > reasons why IETF would sublet rooms. Ah, okay. I thought we were talking about the case where a company decided to have a meeting that coincided with IETF meeting and rented rooms directly from the hotel or conference center, which has been the case with IETF-coupled company meetings I've attended in the past. Sure, if the IETF is subletting meetings space there clearly needs to be some policy to deal with that. Melinda From ford@isoc.org Tue Apr 20 14:27:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 77attendees@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: 77attendees@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED1428C1FC for <77attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:27:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.094 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.094 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.095, BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OLXxzN3X4V13 for <77attendees@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp121.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp121.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.121]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DDC28C224 for <77attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D957F44C072; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:25:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by relay2.r2.iad.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: ford-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 4A7BE44C015; Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:25:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4BCE1BAF.20406@isoc.org> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 22:25:03 +0100 From: Matthew Ford User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 77attendees@ietf.org References: <4BA914A3.5070902@isoc.org> In-Reply-To: <4BA914A3.5070902@isoc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: IETF Discussion List Subject: Re: [77attendees] FW: Looking for jogging trail around the Hilton) X-BeenThere: 77attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <77attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:27:12 -0000 I didn't get out of the hotel and off the treadmill in Anaheim, but I did get ietf-runners at ietf.org established. Sign up today for the inside track on routes around Maastricht! https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-runners Mat > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [77attendees] FW: Looking for jogging trail around the Hilton > Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:45:08 -0700 > From: Vince Fuller > To: Lindqvist Kurt Erik > CC: 77attendees@ietf.org <77attendees@ietf.org> > >> > A wider view of Google maps shows that there is a bike trail along the >> > Santa Ana river that is about 2.5 miles from the Hilton - south on >> Harbor >> > then east on Chapman would seem to be the most direct way to get to >> that >> > trail. When I asked the Hilton concierge about it, however, she >> recommended >> > against going there, saying that there have been many muggings on >> the trail >> > and that it isn't safe for running. >> >> I ran there Saturday morning and it was full of people running and >> biking, that was around 8.30. That was actually on recommendation >> from the Hilton gym... > > I ran this route this morning: > > http://connect.garmin.com/activity/27834415 > > The trail wasn't particularly beautiful (the river is more of a flood > control > channel than a river) but it didn't seem unsafe and was more pleasant than > the roads around here. Not a lot of traffic on it on a weekday morning > but I > did see a few cyclists and a walker or two. > > Less pleasant was running on Ball Road, which was wide, busy, and had no > sidewalk for a mile or so. I don't recommend running on that road. > > --Vince > _______________________________________________ > 77attendees mailing list > 77attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/77attendees