From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Aug 23 14:14:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 662EF21F8D5C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:14:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.614 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.614 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.015, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U1Y8J0jMYnj5 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD9D21F8D5B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 14:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-64-101-72-239.cisco.com (unknown [64.101.72.239]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D184415A0; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:17:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4E541878.1070109@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:15:36 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dcrocker@bbiw.net References: <20110822191708.652C721F8C19@ietfa.amsl.com> <801FB726-F672-4F7F-8D9C-7ED37DB08672@cs.ucla.edu> <4E52F47D.1050300@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: <4E52F47D.1050300@dcrocker.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3 OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dave CROCKER , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Alternative to the Hyatt X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:14:33 -0000 [moving to 82attendees] On 8/22/11 6:29 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > > On 8/22/2011 5:16 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote: >> The Hyatt knew that foreign visitors needed to use the Hyatt as >> headquarters > > > Folks, > > For reference, I found the AT Boutique Hotel, near the Convention Center. > > Tripadvisor comments are generally positive and the facilities are > claimed to be newish. Photos look fine. Modest, workable place. > Breakfast and wifi included. > > Prices are entirely reasonable, although of course you get a small room. > > They have a book-ahead special that doesn't seem to be available through > the online system. I got it by faxing the hotel. It gives you the > windowless rate for a room with a window... > > The Hyatt is a bit northeast of the Center. The Boutique is a bit > southwest. > > d/ > > ps. They have a page in English, and the fellow responding with a fax > produced easy English, but it's clear this hotel is not targeted for > English speakers. My usual experience at such places is that there is > enough Here is another possibility: http://www.businesscenter.com.tw/english/inenglish.html It is at 495 Guang-Fu S. Road, Taipei 110, which is ~350m (just a 5-minute walk) from the convention center. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Aug 23 20:17:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E6821F8B43 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:17:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.556 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d6dGz+WTrMMp for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1835421F8A6F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squire.local (unknown [216.17.251.17]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7BE98415A0; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:21:11 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4E546D9D.7070604@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:18:53 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dcrocker@bbiw.net References: <20110822191708.652C721F8C19@ietfa.amsl.com> <801FB726-F672-4F7F-8D9C-7ED37DB08672@cs.ucla.edu> <4E52F47D.1050300@dcrocker.net> <4E541878.1070109@stpeter.im> <4E5445FD.9020006@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: <4E5445FD.9020006@dcrocker.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3 OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Dave CROCKER , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Alternative to the Hyatt X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:17:46 -0000 On 8/23/11 6:29 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > > On 8/23/2011 2:15 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> Here is another possibility: >> >> http://www.businesscenter.com.tw/english/inenglish.html >> >> It is at 495 Guang-Fu S. Road, Taipei 110, which is ~350m (just a >> 5-minute walk) from the convention center. > > > Looks like it might be the better value. Higher tripadvisor ranking at > about US$18/day more. > > The AT Boutique reviews have many references to small rooms and this one > has references to 'spacious' rooms. Sounds like it might be a bit older. I ended up booking at the AT Boutique too, although because of confusion with the reservation process I didn't get the Early Bird Package. They had only a few rooms left when I booked. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From dcrocker@bbiw.net Tue Aug 23 17:27:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C8021F8C99 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:27:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.046 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.046 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.553, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BKxNpQzJaUjf for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CC021F8C8F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.156] (adsl-68-122-69-114.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [68.122.69.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7O0SGum015819 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:28:22 -0700 Message-ID: <4E54459D.4040200@bbiw.net> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:28:13 -0700 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <20110822191708.652C721F8C19@ietfa.amsl.com> <801FB726-F672-4F7F-8D9C-7ED37DB08672@cs.ucla.edu> <4E52F47D.1050300@dcrocker.net> <4E541878.1070109@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4E541878.1070109@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:28:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:22:22 -0700 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Alternative to the Hyatt X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 00:27:14 -0000 On 8/23/2011 2:15 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Here is another possibility: > > http://www.businesscenter.com.tw/english/inenglish.html > > It is at 495 Guang-Fu S. Road, Taipei 110, which is ~350m (just a > 5-minute walk) from the convention center. Looks like it might be the better value. Higher tripadvisor ranking at about US$18/day more. The AT Boutique reviews have many references to small rooms and this one has references to 'spacious' rooms. Sounds like it might be a bit older. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From dhc2@dcrocker.net Tue Aug 23 17:28:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46FA21F8C76 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:28:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.046 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.046 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.553, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HxMkWFqqAmes for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A04DB21F8C8F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.156] (adsl-68-122-69-114.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [68.122.69.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7O0TqRV015894 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:29:57 -0700 Message-ID: <4E5445FD.9020006@dcrocker.net> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:29:49 -0700 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <20110822191708.652C721F8C19@ietfa.amsl.com> <801FB726-F672-4F7F-8D9C-7ED37DB08672@cs.ucla.edu> <4E52F47D.1050300@dcrocker.net> <4E541878.1070109@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4E541878.1070109@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:29:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:22:22 -0700 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Alternative to the Hyatt X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 00:28:48 -0000 On 8/23/2011 2:15 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Here is another possibility: > > http://www.businesscenter.com.tw/english/inenglish.html > > It is at 495 Guang-Fu S. Road, Taipei 110, which is ~350m (just a > 5-minute walk) from the convention center. Looks like it might be the better value. Higher tripadvisor ranking at about US$18/day more. The AT Boutique reviews have many references to small rooms and this one has references to 'spacious' rooms. Sounds like it might be a bit older. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From dcrocker@bbiw.net Tue Aug 23 20:31:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9982821F8B0D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:31:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.502, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1QypKiUByAH5 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1056321F8AA9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.156] (adsl-68-122-69-114.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [68.122.69.114]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7O3WOIh018065 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:32:29 -0700 Message-ID: <4E5470C5.9060701@bbiw.net> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:32:21 -0700 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <20110822191708.652C721F8C19@ietfa.amsl.com> <801FB726-F672-4F7F-8D9C-7ED37DB08672@cs.ucla.edu> <4E52F47D.1050300@dcrocker.net> <4E541878.1070109@stpeter.im> <4E5445FD.9020006@dcrocker.net> <4E546D9D.7070604@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4E546D9D.7070604@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:32:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:22:22 -0700 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Alternative to the Hyatt X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:31:20 -0000 On 8/23/2011 8:18 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > I ended up booking at the AT Boutique too, although because of confusion > with the reservation process I didn't get the Early Bird Package. They > had only a few rooms left when I booked. i'm feeling as if i ought to get a commission for their sudden burst of business... d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net