From dromasca@avaya.com Tue Nov 1 03:22:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5202821F8E32 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:22:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.593 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.593 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.483, BAYES_05=-1.11, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YNK1eJUfeHhW for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A11E21F8DCC for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:22:40 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao4HAK3Hr07GmAcF/2dsb2JhbABCmimPEIEFgXQBAQMSHgpRARUVBgwMB1cBBBsanGOEEptkiCZhBJlbjBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,437,1315195200"; d="scan'208";a="275399826" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2011 06:22:16 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.14]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2011 06:19:48 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:22:13 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: Electrical plug/outlet thread-index: AcyYgB9sHkFMocx3TDmslMbrU9s2Ug== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:22:42 -0000 Hi, Another 'classical' question before traveling to a place many of us have never been before. From the information available on Internet it looks like the electrical plugs/outlets are compatible with the North-American standard. Can somebody confirm this information?=20 Thanks and excuses if the question was already asked and answered.=20 Regards, Dan From roger.chien@lionic.com Tue Nov 1 03:33:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E313A21F8F50 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:33:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.481 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.481 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RELAY_IS_220=2.118] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2cdzk5IclwgO for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lionic.com (mail.lionic.com [220.130.53.6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6053E21F8F45 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lionic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2967E24D73; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:33:08 +0800 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lionic.com Received: from mail.lionic.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.lionic.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id C-6eVvT7JvFq; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:33:05 +0800 (CST) Received: from [192.168.8.65] (unknown [220.130.53.5]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lionic.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3737C20716 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:33:05 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <4EAFCAE2.6000003@lionic.com> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:33:06 +0800 From: Roger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:33:40 -0000 Yes, it is. Voltage is 110V. BRs, Roger Chien 於 2011/11/1 下午 06:22, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) 提到: > Hi, > > Another 'classical' question before traveling to a place many of us have > never been before. From the information available on Internet it looks > like the electrical plugs/outlets are compatible with the North-American > standard. Can somebody confirm this information? > > Thanks and excuses if the question was already asked and answered. > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From fred@cisco.com Tue Nov 1 03:38:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7467821F8F65 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:38:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -107.528 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-107.528 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.928, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N9sr8nkiiyYX for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-4.cisco.com (ams-iport-4.cisco.com [144.254.224.147]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4796821F8ECF for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:38:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fred@cisco.com; l=1033; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1320143908; x=1321353508; h=subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id: references:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VCwJ3hxgCbF0cBq26oYqUKwSiyvAvlsxhd9zXaD61lc=; b=QkCkVxtIk+W+asUdZZTcQ18e8ZIjioydF6SIiC2/IJPxnHf0BU/8i8gL zlXHyj9/n/F6LxYzlEpi1sxU7RqlZxLO4hux8QDBfa4skOVlKjONziywy CpTzfQIGwTHJdP+c3Kj4Fmsf3HnvwjHyZBVEaV9ZQv+LFycfX6xHXB+gT k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAALMr05Io8UQ/2dsb2JhbAAoGqk5gQWBcgEBAQMBAQEBDwEnNAsFCwtGJzAGEyKHYAgjlgUBnk+IJmEEiASMC4UtjD9f X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,437,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="2168509" Received: from bgl-core-1.cisco.com ([72.163.197.16]) by ams-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2011 10:38:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (tky-vpn-client-231-53.cisco.com [10.70.231.53]) by bgl-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA1AcMUA022051; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:38:23 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] by localhost (PGP Universal service); Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:38:24 +0900 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by localhost on Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:38:24 +0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Fred Baker In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:38:05 +0800 Message-Id: <6B31D23C-ABEB-46E6-B7E5-33F382E2F27E@cisco.com> References: To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:38:29 -0000 On Nov 1, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Another 'classical' question before traveling to a place many of us = have > never been before. =46rom the information available on Internet it = looks > like the electrical plugs/outlets are compatible with the = North-American > standard. Can somebody confirm this information?=20 They are compatible with American non-grounded/2-prong. If you have a = 3-prong plug (most of us do) or a polarized plug (one pin is slightly = larger than the other to make you plug it in a certain way), bring a = 3-to-2 adapter. Suggest you read = http://www.adaptelec.com/index.php?main_page=3Ddocument_general_info&produ= cts_id=3D276 on grounding and polarization. > Thanks and excuses if the question was already asked and answered.=20 >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Dan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From ole@cisco.com Tue Nov 1 05:28:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96DEF11E8468 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 05:28:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -96.562 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-96.562 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-9.963, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, URIBL_SBL=20, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7-G3ofiNMVBa for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 05:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01DFC11E84B7 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 05:28:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=868; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1320150505; x=1321360105; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=0iKDQrmunh7Y94H/f7bZE2UG49wh6Tfx1sAptzeVilY=; b=brgwPBB70cNDKBWp58DC3vZvNh0P18DIKa3blj9UujvVk7mPF3pkOQKn 1LV+dMkuX1b7njExbBfPYgRh59pY6pnbzmL2aKBA45b+glRVWD5Ow9bkj R6lF6CaD5UkSwFymQNfyPJD4axMcdldn/srB7osopSKEMOolVRpj21Qdn o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EANbkr06rRDoJ/2dsb2JhbAA/A6k6gQWBcgEBAQMBAQEBDwECASQ0CwULC0YnMAYTIodgCJY/AYMqDwGbFoVygxUEiAaWQIdI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,438,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="11611375" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2011 12:28:24 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn7-335.cisco.com (sjc-vpn7-335.cisco.com [10.21.145.79]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA1CSOh3031807; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 12:28:24 GMT Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 05:28:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 12:28:25 -0000 http://ietf82.tw/info.html#h3 Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Hi, > > Another 'classical' question before traveling to a place many of us have > never been before. From the information available on Internet it looks > like the electrical plugs/outlets are compatible with the North-American > standard. Can somebody confirm this information? > > Thanks and excuses if the question was already asked and answered. > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From ole@cisco.com Tue Nov 1 05:28:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2CF11E84C9 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 05:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.206 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.206 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.393, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3h5WG8P33uZH for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 05:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B2111E847B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 05:28:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=874; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1320150537; x=1321360137; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=Sshjg5qJqGkM8wDdg7w11SMzaVrpBE4jEr1Z3QfHFuU=; b=m7NDThDGxqAbJfxXdPUyGazqd/L+81MBKbnhl5OGgz9HAoAPsFPcWmkY S3h+SNAi5S8nguu4Q7pMe4Y9TczT8u3+WnLFRPskQjOhIvxXaSAGxFMFi A+sFG6WN/SL7D+FfLz8y3sbGBc6mZQtt8mbyUeGYD/eqrwm4abx2C/WS+ E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EANbkr06rRDoG/2dsb2JhbAA/A6k6gQWBcgEBAQMBAQEBDwECASQ0CwULC0YnMAYTIodgCJY/AYMqDwGbFoVygxUEiAaWQIdI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,438,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="11611473" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2011 12:28:57 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn7-335.cisco.com (sjc-vpn7-335.cisco.com [10.21.145.79]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA1CSvNv025020; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 12:28:57 GMT Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 05:28:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 12:28:59 -0000 Yes, "US or Japan" style outlet. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Hi, > > Another 'classical' question before traveling to a place many of us have > never been before. From the information available on Internet it looks > like the electrical plugs/outlets are compatible with the North-American > standard. Can somebody confirm this information? > > Thanks and excuses if the question was already asked and answered. > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From wesley.george@twcable.com Tue Nov 1 06:46:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22501F0C87; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 06:46:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.26 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.26 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.203, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ROA5p5+TZQMd; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 06:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdpipgw02.twcable.com (cdpipgw02.twcable.com [165.237.59.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599DE1F0C5C; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 06:46:30 -0700 (PDT) X-SENDER-IP: 10.136.163.13 X-SENDER-REPUTATION: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,437,1315195200"; d="scan'208";a="276802332" Received: from unknown (HELO PRVPEXHUB04.corp.twcable.com) ([10.136.163.13]) by cdpipgw02.twcable.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 01 Nov 2011 09:42:16 -0400 Received: from PRVPEXVS03.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.27]) by PRVPEXHUB04.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.13]) with mapi; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 09:46:28 -0400 From: "George, Wes" To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 09:46:27 -0400 Thread-Topic: Electrical plug/outlet Thread-Index: AcyYgB9sHkFMocx3TDmslMbrU9s2UgAFaoyA Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "iaoc@ietf.org" , Mary Barnes Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:46:32 -0000 > From: 82attendees Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 6:22 AM > > Another 'classical' question before traveling to a place many of us > have never been before. [WEG] Related - is there already a document that has a list of the minimum = information that the host is recommended (required?) to provide for those t= raveling to IETF? We get the same FAQs over the attendees list every IETF, = and the host websites are often inconsistent about what information they pr= ovide and when. Even when people ask on the list, that requires you to squi= rrel away information in your email box, because there's no guarantee that = the host is updating the site (or someone is updating the wiki) every time = a good answer to a common question comes out. If not, I was thinking that I would write a BCP to that effect, because I d= on't think that the hosts mean to omit information, it may simply not occur= to them that people want to know. Things like: Travel (recommended airport, travel to/from hotel, getting around, public t= ransit, etc) Restaurant recommendations (esp for those with dietary restrictions) by pri= ce, proximity, type of food, probably a reference to draft-barnes-healthy-f= ood Currency conversion rate Cash/credit acceptance (restaurants, taxis, stores, etc), ATM locations, et= c Estimated costs for Taxis, description of "official" taxis if appropriate Plug type/voltage Average weather conditions Health and Safety warnings (tap water, crime, etc) Visa requirements Languages commonly spoken (and in the case where English is not common, a l= ink to travel necessity phrases in the native language) I'm thinking of the Stockholm IETF as an example of a great host website, o= pen to other suggestions: http://web.archive.org/web/20100812231105/http://= www.ietf75.se/ Thoughts? Figured I'd start with this smaller list of folks and then maybe once I hav= e a draft to discuss I can take it to ietf@ietf.org for more feedback. Thanks Wes George This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the u= se of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the= intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissem= ination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents= of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawf= ul. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender imm= ediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail an= d any printout. From bede@rcf-smtp.mitre.org Tue Nov 1 10:06:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310F421F9457 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:06:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9prtvYKCoce4 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835F621F9456 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DCB921B1814; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from linus.mitre.org (linus.mitre.org [129.83.10.1]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3860621B17F9; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cairo.mitre.org (cairo.mitre.org [129.83.10.14]) by linus.mitre.org (8.12.11/8.12.10) with ESMTP id pA1H4LnB004092; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bede@localhost) by cairo.mitre.org (8.12.11/8.12.8) id pA1H4GVD014661; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <201111011704.pA1H4GVD014661@cairo.mitre.org> From: "Bede B. McCall" To: Fred Baker In-reply-to: <6B31D23C-ABEB-46E6-B7E5-33F382E2F27E@cisco.com> (message from Fred Baker on Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:38:05 +0800) References: <6B31D23C-ABEB-46E6-B7E5-33F382E2F27E@cisco.com> Cc: dromasca@avaya.com, 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:28:43 -0000 I suspect an adapter for 2-prong Japanese outlets might be the right thing, since North American 3-2 adapters generally have the unequal prong widths. --Bede From: Fred Baker Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:38:05 +0800 On Nov 1, 2011, at 6:22 PM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Hi, > > Another 'classical' question before traveling to a place many of us have > never been before. From the information available on Internet it looks > like the electrical plugs/outlets are compatible with the North-American > standard. Can somebody confirm this information? They are compatible with American non-grounded/2-prong. If you have a 3-prong plug (most of us do) or a polarized plug (one pin is slightly larger than the other to make you plug it in a certain way), bring a 3-to-2 adapter. Suggest you read http://www.adaptelec.com/index.php?main_page=document_general_info&products_id=276 on grounding and polarization. > Thanks and excuses if the question was already asked and answered. > > Regards, > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From eburger@standardstrack.com Tue Nov 1 08:36:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A905D1F0C42; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:36:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.664 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.664 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xiLcwVGMOKjw; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz104.inmotionhosting.com (biz104.inmotionhosting.com [173.247.254.120]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887681F0C3D; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:36:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=standardstrack.com; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-Source:X-Source-Args:X-Source-Dir; b=QCu3J4lVfu+s5EVjkP+STPQ6TNngiqHriFEuEUbRnVJsGWqpxj7KmX2DC5j5PKlZ9goY78KzA/59ArIMwqFhM9iTuOj2MJ/m6AHQUv6oxAPE3eVmh8xa4xt4XlI/irXz; Received: from ip68-100-199-8.dc.dc.cox.net ([68.100.199.8]:59304 helo=[192.168.15.184]) by biz104.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RLGO6-0007vb-OQ; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:36:31 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-169-404688249; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Eric Burger In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:36:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: To: "George, Wes" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz104.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:49:31 -0700 Cc: IAOC Jabberr , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:36:33 -0000 --Apple-Mail-169-404688249 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On the one hand, we want to make sure participants have the most = information possible to make travel to and participation in the meetings = as easy and enjoyable as possible. To this end the host often puts up a = web site with useful information. Likewise, since we are, after all, the = *Internet* Engineering Task Force, we use this thing called the Internet = to enable people to publish their own observations, tips, and tricks on = an IETF-hosted wiki. On the other hand, WE ARE NOT A TRAVEL AGENCY. Almost all hosts have = been gracious enough to provide local information, to a degree = impossible for the IETF to offer. However, mandating the host provide = such information or, worse yet, mandating the IETF provide such = information, is way beyond both our capabilities and charter. We want = to ensure that travel is smooth, your stay is enjoyable, and you get the = most out of the meeting. However, rather than make believe we are a = travel agency, we would suggest that if you are not satisfied with the = information provided by the host or the IETF, you (1) let us know and = (2) contact a real travel agent. On Nov 1, 2011, at 9:46 AM, George, Wes wrote: >=20 >> From: 82attendees > Romascanu, Dan (Dan) >> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 6:22 AM >>=20 >> Another 'classical' question before traveling to a place many of us >> have never been before. > >=20 > [WEG] Related - is there already a document that has a list of the = minimum information that the host is recommended (required?) to provide = for those traveling to IETF? We get the same FAQs over the attendees = list every IETF, and the host websites are often inconsistent about what = information they provide and when. Even when people ask on the list, = that requires you to squirrel away information in your email box, = because there's no guarantee that the host is updating the site (or = someone is updating the wiki) every time a good answer to a common = question comes out. >=20 > If not, I was thinking that I would write a BCP to that effect, = because I don't think that the hosts mean to omit information, it may = simply not occur to them that people want to know. >=20 > Things like: > Travel (recommended airport, travel to/from hotel, getting around, = public transit, etc) > Restaurant recommendations (esp for those with dietary restrictions) = by price, proximity, type of food, probably a reference to = draft-barnes-healthy-food > Currency conversion rate > Cash/credit acceptance (restaurants, taxis, stores, etc), ATM = locations, etc > Estimated costs for Taxis, description of "official" taxis if = appropriate > Plug type/voltage > Average weather conditions > Health and Safety warnings (tap water, crime, etc) > Visa requirements > Languages commonly spoken (and in the case where English is not = common, a link to travel necessity phrases in the native language) >=20 > I'm thinking of the Stockholm IETF as an example of a great host = website, open to other suggestions: = http://web.archive.org/web/20100812231105/http://www.ietf75.se/ >=20 > Thoughts? > Figured I'd start with this smaller list of folks and then maybe once = I have a draft to discuss I can take it to ietf@ietf.org for more = feedback. >=20 > Thanks > Wes George >=20 > This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable = proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject = to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. 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[63.145.238.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bw9sm4414941qab.18.2011.11.01.09.30.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 09:30:05 -0700 From: Dave Crocker Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "George, Wes" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:50:16 -0700 Cc: "iaoc@ietf.org" , Mary Barnes , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:30:15 -0000 On 11/1/2011 6:46 AM, George, Wes wrote: > If not, I was thinking that I would write a BCP to that effect, because I don't think that the hosts mean to omit information, it may simply not occur to them that people want to know. > > Things like: ... In addition to Eric's point that we are not a travel agent, there's the minor point that we do not always have a host. So I'll suggest an IETF approach: 1. Do write the list of core information desired, per Wes' offer, and include common answers. (We do not need to repeatedly note the type of plug used in the US or the UK or... Just point to this new document.) 2. Provide a community Venue FAQ Wiki that lets /all/ of us ask and answer questions. If there is a host, they can be more active, preload Qs & As, etc., but we do not have to rely on them. d/ From ole@cisco.com Tue Nov 1 10:57:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B450B1F0C4D; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:57:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.379, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QpF7+4fAsTqc; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E187D1F0C3B; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:57:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1546; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1320170259; x=1321379859; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=YCMXZKZxlqjW7tQuP6kEQK600X0Db5wPumAV9u8/sns=; b=Ak/fWK129lnTXiWaHOhaWnRXOwUDCJEonAlMsq8cKNz/4s8+PWlMsBZt pokkf6GgdmEn5Vn11CRsMXbUuDKFOBR3C+qCuGW3z9TXeyJlnImu8+Aot s1JCtnDLAt8Q0UNq/B5YL4QqW3BMi481fyfxdTa0GXaSQn9AWNnL1tXlo s=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAB4xsE6rRDoI/2dsb2JhbABAA6gbgSqBBYFyAQEBAwEBAQEPAQIBJDQLEAsOCi4nMAYTFA6HYAiWfgGDKg8BmnaFcoMVBIgGlkCHSA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,439,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="11678384" Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2011 17:54:00 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn7-335.cisco.com (sjc-vpn7-335.cisco.com [10.21.145.79]) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA1HrxxO028210; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 17:53:59 GMT Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 10:53:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Dave Crocker In-Reply-To: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "iaoc@ietf.org" , Mary Barnes , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, "George, Wes" Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:57:39 -0000 Then there is the volunteer model where someone takes it upon themself to compile infomation, a la http://hiroshima-info.info This actually came together over several months as people started asking questions and sending in suggestions. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Dave Crocker wrote: > > > On 11/1/2011 6:46 AM, George, Wes wrote: > > If not, I was thinking that I would write a BCP to that effect, because I > > don't think that the hosts mean to omit information, it may simply not occur > > to them that people want to know. > > > > Things like: > ... > > > In addition to Eric's point that we are not a travel agent, there's the minor > point that we do not always have a host. > > So I'll suggest an IETF approach: > > 1. Do write the list of core information desired, per Wes' offer, and include > common answers. (We do not need to repeatedly note the type of plug used in > the US or the UK or... Just point to this new document.) > > 2. Provide a community Venue FAQ Wiki that lets /all/ of us ask and answer > questions. If there is a host, they can be more active, preload Qs & As, > etc., but we do not have to rely on them. > > d/ > _______________________________________________ > IAOC mailing list > IAOC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc > From johnl@iecc.com Tue Nov 1 13:08:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820D011E81A4 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:08:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kHOSgyGPmy9o for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8686C11E81A3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 15129 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2011 20:08:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=3b18.4eb051d6.k1111; bh=0hSo45LI698p9Gs+O/jaMFxmHFeC8G/OljNPbOLzFfM=; b=h3+2FxsuL0wqDnF0n6P0o12KpUk6NWT720h2YB1vSZI+0VRnXSXjQ1GqjPmMoD41dksN0F2HQYfZNmIqjlAhma3Lw9rLfkdfR/loVPvbQXCj5vDvfThn2IwYbiSMCwS1VAUJfoP1mZ4Okg+tXWJhImr0uEee99QLtC2pDpYHhKs= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 1 Nov 2011 20:08:32 -0000 Date: 1 Nov 2011 16:08:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Bede B. McCall" In-Reply-To: <201111011704.pA1H4GVD014661@cairo.mitre.org> References: <6B31D23C-ABEB-46E6-B7E5-33F382E2F27E@cisco.com> <201111011704.pA1H4GVD014661@cairo.mitre.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:15:49 -0700 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:08:59 -0000 > I suspect an adapter for 2-prong Japanese outlets might be the right > thing, since North American 3-2 adapters generally have the unequal > prong widths. I've found it fairly easy to take a pair of diagonal cutters and trim the wider prong so it fits in an outlet with two equal-sized slots. Those outlets are still quite common in older buildings in North America. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Tue Nov 1 14:19:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BA021F9BCA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:19:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.566 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.566 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.033, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rePdAJ30eHAs for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000:226:55ff:fe57:14db]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BA521F8BE9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.250] (unknown [173.243.43.162]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B6D420D01 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 17:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:19:26 -0400 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:19:53 -0000 On 2011-11-01 09:46, George, Wes wrote: > [WEG] Related - is there already a document that has a list of the minimum information that the host is recommended (required?) to provide Just for laughs... ;) Here's a sample from last time: - Kayak spots (both sea and river please) - Scuba diving (including places for renting equipment) - How to rent a bicycle - Where are the fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party? - How to go from anywhere to anywhere using the bus - Places to go hiking (with an evaluation of danger please) - Restaurants (not just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy too) - Please organize a soccer BoF - Where to buy electronic equipment - Can we go through customs with electronics in our luggage? - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a tip? - Where can I buy literature? - How to go on whale watching cruises (substitute with local wildlife) - Please suggest running trails - Where to eat breakfast apart from the main hotel - What are the funny characters at the bottom of restaurant receipts? (Not trying to make fun of anyone. I had a lot of fun myself playing travel agency! :) Simon -- NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org From touch@isi.edu Tue Nov 1 14:35:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73E6521F8CDC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:35:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.269 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.269 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.330, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RzxuDi9NhZj9 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD73B21F8CDA for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.9.160.166] (abc.isi.edu [128.9.160.166]) (authenticated bits=0) by boreas.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA1LY2IY002201 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4EB065CA.6040004@isi.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:34:02 -0700 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Simon Perreault References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:35:12 -0000 It might be useful to separate the following two groups of information: - information that is useful for us to participate in the IETF places to eat (since the IETF doesn't provide meals) to/from the airport places to get replacement electronics local transportation between the venue and hotels visa/travel doc pointers - information for those who combine the IETF with personal vacations most of the other stuff below I would hope that local organizers can help with the first group. The second is the job of (a) a travel agent or (b) those interested in sharing their vacations together. Joe On 11/1/2011 2:19 PM, Simon Perreault wrote: > On 2011-11-01 09:46, George, Wes wrote: >> [WEG] Related - is there already a document that has a list of the >> minimum information that the host is recommended (required?) to provide > > Just for laughs... ;) Here's a sample from last time: > > - Kayak spots (both sea and river please) > - Scuba diving (including places for renting equipment) > - How to rent a bicycle > - Where are the fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party? > - How to go from anywhere to anywhere using the bus > - Places to go hiking (with an evaluation of danger please) > - Restaurants (not just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy too) > - Please organize a soccer BoF > - Where to buy electronic equipment > - Can we go through customs with electronics in our luggage? > - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a tip? > - Where can I buy literature? > - How to go on whale watching cruises (substitute with local wildlife) > - Please suggest running trails > - Where to eat breakfast apart from the main hotel > - What are the funny characters at the bottom of restaurant receipts? > > (Not trying to make fun of anyone. I had a lot of fun myself playing > travel agency! :) > > Simon From wesley.george@twcable.com Tue Nov 1 14:54:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C67821F9BE8; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:54:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.29 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.29 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.173, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9YRBBnI+kbLC; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdpipgw02.twcable.com (cdpipgw02.twcable.com [165.237.59.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C588B21F8F2B; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:54:36 -0700 (PDT) X-SENDER-IP: 10.136.163.10 X-SENDER-REPUTATION: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,439,1315195200"; d="scan'208";a="277022160" Received: from unknown (HELO PRVPEXHUB01.corp.twcable.com) ([10.136.163.10]) by cdpipgw02.twcable.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 01 Nov 2011 16:35:32 -0400 Received: from PRVPEXVS03.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.27]) by PRVPEXHUB01.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.10]) with mapi; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:39:45 -0400 From: "George, Wes" To: Dave CROCKER , Ole Jacobsen Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:39:44 -0400 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet Thread-Index: AcyY1D9m52+av1QDRFiA9fWObJ6e1AAAbAgw Message-ID: References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> In-Reply-To: <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "iaoc@ietf.org" , Mary Barnes , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:54:54 -0000 Thanks for the feedback. I'll take those things into consideration when wor= king towards a draft. I had a hunch that "require" was too strong of a word= , and this confirmed it for me. It also gives me some good ideas about how = to provide some options that don't necessarily put an undue burden on eithe= r IAOC or another part of the IETF administrative body, nor on the hosts bu= t still achieves the goal of codifying the set of info that is helpful for = us to have as visitors to an unfamiliar location. Wes > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave CROCKER [mailto:dcrocker@bbiw.net] > Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 4:24 PM > To: Ole Jacobsen > Cc: iaoc@ietf.org; Mary Barnes; 82attendees@ietf.org; George, Wes > Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet > > > On 11/1/2011 10:53 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > > > Then there is the volunteer model where someone takes it upon > themself > > to compile infomation, a la http://hiroshima-info.info > > > > This actually came together over several months as people started > > asking questions and sending in suggestions. > > > > On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Dave Crocker wrote: > >> 1. Do write the list of core information desired, per Wes' offer, > and > >> include common answers. (We do not need to repeatedly note the type > >> of plug used in the US or the UK or... Just point to this new > >> document.) > >> > >> 2. Provide a community Venue FAQ Wiki that lets /all/ of us ask and > >> answer questions. If there is a host, they can be more active, > >> preload Qs& As, etc., but we do not have to rely on them. > > > 1. Ray pointed out to me that we already have a wiki. My suggestion > is, therefore, is to: > > a) preload some segments for these standard topics and standard > discussions. > > b) On the event page that points to the wiki, also load some > pointers /into/ these segments in the wiki. (Creating information also > creates a requirement to make it easy to find. For IETF meetings, > that's the meetings page. > > 2. I thought that my suggestion very much is a 'take it upon > themselves' model, for creating the data. The centralized part is to > create a standardized place for it. So perhaps it's a hybrid model, > like most wikis... > > d/ > -- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the u= se of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the= intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissem= ination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents= of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawf= ul. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender imm= ediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail an= d any printout. From dhc@dcrocker.net Tue Nov 1 14:56:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF33D11E812A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:56:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g1CXGujto0+T for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1C911E8120 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.75.116] (63-145-238-4.dia.static.qwest.net [63.145.238.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA1Lughg029861 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:56:49 -0700 Message-ID: <4EB06B17.2090502@dcrocker.net> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:56:39 -0700 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dave Crocker List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:56:51 -0000 Simon's list seems to have major categories: Restaurants/Food: > - Restaurants (not just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy too) > - Where to eat breakfast apart from the main hotel > - What are the funny characters at the bottom of restaurant receipts? Getting there: > - Can we go through customs with electronics in our luggage? Transportation: > - How to go from anywhere to anywhere using the bus > - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a tip? Sports Activities: > - Kayak spots (both sea and river please) > - Scuba diving (including places for renting equipment) > - How to rent a bicycle > - Places to go hiking (with an evaluation of danger please) > - Please organize a soccer BoF > - Please suggest running trails Shopping: > - Where to buy electronic equipment > - Where can I buy literature? Entertainment: > - Where are the fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party? > - How to go on whale watching cruises (substitute with local wildlife) d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com Tue Nov 1 21:08:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A0411E80D1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:08:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.013 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.013 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.586, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K9DZT4y6kp19 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from szxga04-in.huawei.com (szxga04-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.67]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8B211E80CC for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 21:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (szxga04-in [172.24.2.12]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LU000CG1M21V7@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:06:01 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxrg02-dlp.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LU000JM2M1FKB@szxga04-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:06:01 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxeml207-edg.china.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id AER68184; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:06:01 +0800 Received: from SZXEML407-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.94) by szxeml207-edg.china.huawei.com (172.24.2.59) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.270.1; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:05:57 +0800 Received: from SZXEML526-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.2.58]) by szxeml407-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.94]) with mapi id 14.01.0270.001; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:05:52 +0800 Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 04:05:52 +0000 From: Tina TSOU X-Originating-IP: [10.212.244.70] To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en-US Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Thread-topic: Help! Need a carrier from Taiwan to Bay Area of California... Thread-index: AcyZFLRaO1W0xWcaS/abegA7R9soUg== X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Subject: [82attendees] Help! Need a carrier from Taiwan to Bay Area of California... X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 04:08:46 -0000 Dear all, My Taiwan visa is still under process. I'm wondering whether there is enough time for the delivery of the visa. If you know whoever is travelling from Taiwan to Bay Area of California these days, let me know tina.tsou.zouting@huawei.com. Really need a carrier for my visa... I will buy his/her dinner in Bay Area. Best Regards, Tina TSOU http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html From craemer@isoc.org Wed Nov 2 06:18:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29F61F0C4F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 06:18:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fV5VT9pgZ70j for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 06:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp161.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp161.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.161]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450011F0C34 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 06:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp16.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1A6BD4061A for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:18:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp16.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: craemer-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id E06F1404C4 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:18:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Craemer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:18:34 -0400 Message-Id: <3FB6363D-2302-4C2F-973E-BA885DDFEE58@isoc.org> To: 82attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [82attendees] ISOC@IETF 82 Briefing Panel: Beyond PUT, POST and GET: application data routing carves its own path X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 13:18:38 -0000 Following previous successful Internet Society panels, we are organizing = a briefing panel on on Tuesday, 15 November, from 11:45am to 12:45pm, at = IETF 82 in Taipei: Beyond PUT, POST and GET: application data routing carves its = own path Applications and services are how most people see the Internet -- and = their "quality of experience" is directly related to their smooth = functioning: flow of application data. The Internet's underlying = infrastructure for routing packets has proven eminently successful for = supporting a broad range of such applications and services by connecting = any and all endpoints, forwarding packets of data based on best effort, = and overall optimized for general characteristics of flows. = Applications and services are evolving well beyond simple client-server = models, and feature their own metrics for efficiency and effectiveness = of moving data. General Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) evolved as a = mechanism for getting application data closer to its use. = Increasingly, access providers are looking to provide their own CDNs, = and new work is looking at applications from the information routing = perspective -- named data, information centric, or name oriented = networking, to name a few. The panel will survey these approaches and = address a number of basic questions. Additional information is available at: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/ietf82-briefing/ Due to high demand at previous panel events and limited space, the = Internet Society is providing advance information about registration. = Online registration will open tomorrow, 3 November, in two time blocks. = To account for the broad range of home timezones of IETF participants, = half of the available spaces available will be open for registration at = 00:01 UTC, with the remaining spaces made available at 12:01 UTC. Look = for a registration form link at the webpage above at these times.=20 For those unable to attend, we expect to provide a live (and archived) = audiocast, information for which will be available at the webpage above. Kevin Craemer Senior Events Manager Internet Society craemer@isoc.org From dcrocker@bbiw.net Tue Nov 1 13:47:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC6811E81A2; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:47:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EinMkTQBnbnu; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEF8811E80B0; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.75.116] (63-145-238-4.dia.static.qwest.net [63.145.238.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA1KNwwx028410 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 1 Nov 2011 13:24:04 -0700 Message-ID: <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:23:55 -0700 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ole Jacobsen References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:24:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 07:58:19 -0700 Cc: "iaoc@ietf.org" , Mary Barnes , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, "George, Wes" Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 20:47:27 -0000 On 11/1/2011 10:53 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Then there is the volunteer model where someone takes it upon > themself to compile infomation, a la http://hiroshima-info.info > > This actually came together over several months as people started > asking questions and sending in suggestions. > > On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Dave Crocker wrote: >> 1. Do write the list of core information desired, per Wes' offer, and include >> common answers. (We do not need to repeatedly note the type of plug used in >> the US or the UK or... Just point to this new document.) >> >> 2. Provide a community Venue FAQ Wiki that lets /all/ of us ask and answer >> questions. If there is a host, they can be more active, preload Qs& As, >> etc., but we do not have to rely on them. 1. Ray pointed out to me that we already have a wiki. My suggestion is, therefore, is to: a) preload some segments for these standard topics and standard discussions. b) On the event page that points to the wiki, also load some pointers /into/ these segments in the wiki. (Creating information also creates a requirement to make it easy to find. For IETF meetings, that's the meetings page. 2. I thought that my suggestion very much is a 'take it upon themselves' model, for creating the data. The centralized part is to create a standardized place for it. So perhaps it's a hybrid model, like most wikis... d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From eburger@standardstrack.com Tue Nov 1 14:00:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4FC11E81E1; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:00:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.659 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.659 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.060, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CoekUY4-J2Pb; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz104.inmotionhosting.com (biz104.inmotionhosting.com [173.247.254.120]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0419211E812D; Tue, 1 Nov 2011 14:00:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=standardstrack.com; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-Source:X-Source-Args:X-Source-Dir; b=hr0U69dEi0Qd4zt6VWgbSLuFD1PJqZpNvB73pIdYaSgG7dvVeV54ReWi/K0xRiASFbh9TMeIztNnsspJ+7fQ+dZBjEMcDPWf6+5tucvG+PyGD9btFhtwviZVq+YwPJ+L; Received: from ip68-100-199-8.dc.dc.cox.net ([68.100.199.8]:61558 helo=[192.168.15.184]) by biz104.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RLLPl-0005ba-KH; Tue, 01 Nov 2011 13:58:33 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-234-424011526; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Eric Burger In-Reply-To: <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 16:58:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> To: Crocker Dave X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz104.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 07:58:19 -0700 Cc: IAOC Jabberr , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:00:26 -0000 --Apple-Mail-234-424011526 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii And to echo Ray again again, there has been a meeting wiki for the past = few years; the IETF has hosted it for more than a year. See = . To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to preload = stuff, it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to /your/ heart's = content. On Nov 1, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: >=20 > On 11/1/2011 10:53 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: >>=20 >> Then there is the volunteer model where someone takes it upon >> themself to compile infomation, a la http://hiroshima-info.info >>=20 >> This actually came together over several months as people started >> asking questions and sending in suggestions. >>=20 >> On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Dave Crocker wrote: >>> 1. Do write the list of core information desired, per Wes' offer, = and include >>> common answers. (We do not need to repeatedly note the type of plug = used in >>> the US or the UK or... Just point to this new document.) >>>=20 >>> 2. Provide a community Venue FAQ Wiki that lets /all/ of us ask and = answer >>> questions. If there is a host, they can be more active, preload Qs& = As, >>> etc., but we do not have to rely on them. >=20 >=20 > 1. Ray pointed out to me that we already have a wiki. My suggestion = is, therefore, is to: >=20 > a) preload some segments for these standard topics and standard = discussions. >=20 > b) On the event page that points to the wiki, also load some = pointers /into/ these segments in the wiki. (Creating information also = creates a requirement to make it easy to find. For IETF meetings, = that's the meetings page. >=20 > 2. I thought that my suggestion very much is a 'take it upon = themselves' model, for creating the data. The centralized part is to = create a standardized place for it. So perhaps it's a hybrid model, = like most wikis... >=20 > d/ > --=20 >=20 > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > _______________________________________________ > IAOC mailing list > IAOC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc --Apple-Mail-234-424011526 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIPODCCBN0w ggPFoAMCAQICEHGS++YZX6xNEoV0cTSiGKcwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEFBQAwezELMAkGA1UEBhMCR0Ix GzAZBgNVBAgMEkdyZWF0ZXIgTWFuY2hlc3RlcjEQMA4GA1UEBwwHU2FsZm9yZDEaMBgGA1UECgwR Q29tb2RvIENBIExpbWl0ZWQxITAfBgNVBAMMGEFBQSBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBTZXJ2aWNlczAeFw0w NDAxMDEwMDAwMDBaFw0yODEyMzEyMzU5NTlaMIGuMQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUzELMAkGA1UECBMCVVQx FzAVBgNVBAcTDlNhbHQgTGFrZSBDaXR5MR4wHAYDVQQKExVUaGUgVVNFUlRSVVNUIE5ldHdvcmsx ITAfBgNVBAsTGGh0dHA6Ly93d3cudXNlcnRydXN0LmNvbTE2MDQGA1UEAxMtVVROLVVTRVJGaXJz 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(Postfix) with ESMTP id D228A11E811A for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5so332031vws.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 08:51:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VwEpfMdnzP+RDM0VRS+iQS+3YzLEn3aox87d7Tf5J0w=; b=PmwXgu5TQmEdRGyGMLwq9ir/X6LprYqAdp1tc3zMHHlqqCCUGXpcb3zW583uMi14G8 qIjP0MaingmvGlZFluKArKzFDqoHn7B7778ertnMJ0thsVOyrnlhWtE0HunmMNbqXw9Q 01S2SSO3gdJqaBlWeVAJPciRiS0OuCkKFVI3M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.20.207 with SMTP id p15mr4928710vde.87.1320249085271; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 08:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:51:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Eric Burger Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cff50be205c04b0c2713a Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] Meeting wiki ( was Re: [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:51:29 -0000 --20cf307cff50be205c04b0c2713a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I will note that 3 people have their arrival information listed under the "Espresso & Coffee" area versus the Arrival coordination area: http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf82 http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/82arrivals I don't think it's right to muck with other people's information. I will note that I actually find the format they used far more readable than what's on the Arrival coordination page, but I'm a little too lazy to fix that (something to keep in mind next time). Mary. On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Eric Burger wrote: > And to echo Ray again again, there has been a meeting wiki for the past > few years; the IETF has hosted it for more than a year. See < > http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/>. > > To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to preload stuff, > it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to /your/ heart's content. > > On Nov 1, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > > > > On 11/1/2011 10:53 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > >> > >> Then there is the volunteer model where someone takes it upon > >> themself to compile infomation, a la http://hiroshima-info.info > >> > >> This actually came together over several months as people started > >> asking questions and sending in suggestions. > >> > >> On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Dave Crocker wrote: > >>> 1. Do write the list of core information desired, per Wes' offer, and > include > >>> common answers. (We do not need to repeatedly note the type of plug > used in > >>> the US or the UK or... Just point to this new document.) > >>> > >>> 2. Provide a community Venue FAQ Wiki that lets /all/ of us ask and > answer > >>> questions. If there is a host, they can be more active, preload Qs& > As, > >>> etc., but we do not have to rely on them. > > > > > > 1. Ray pointed out to me that we already have a wiki. My suggestion is, > therefore, is to: > > > > a) preload some segments for these standard topics and standard > discussions. > > > > b) On the event page that points to the wiki, also load some pointers > /into/ these segments in the wiki. (Creating information also creates a > requirement to make it easy to find. For IETF meetings, that's the > meetings page. > > > > 2. I thought that my suggestion very much is a 'take it upon themselves' > model, for creating the data. The centralized part is to create a > standardized place for it. So perhaps it's a hybrid model, like most > wikis... > > > > d/ > > -- > > > > Dave Crocker > > Brandenburg InternetWorking > > bbiw.net > > _______________________________________________ > > IAOC mailing list > > IAOC@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > --20cf307cff50be205c04b0c2713a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will note that 3 people have their arrival information listed under the &= quot;Espresso & Coffee" area versus the Arrival coordination area:=

I don't think it's right to muck with other peopl= e's information. =A0I will note that I actually find the format they us= ed far more readable than what's on the Arrival coordination page, but = I'm a little too lazy to fix that (something to keep in mind next time)= .=A0

Mary.=A0

On Tue,= Nov 1, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com> wro= te:
And to echo Ray again again, there has been= a meeting wiki for the past few years; the IETF has hosted it for more tha= n a year. See <http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/<= /a>>.

To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to preload stuff, = it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to /your/ heart's content.

On Nov 1, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote:

>
> On 11/1/2011 10:53 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>>
>> Then there is the volunteer model where someone takes it upon
>> themself to compile infomation, a la http://hiroshima-info.info
>>
>> This actually came together over several months as people started<= br> >> asking questions and sending in suggestions.
>>
>> On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Dave Crocker wrote:
>>> 1. Do write the list of core information desired, per Wes'= offer, and include
>>> common answers. =A0(We do not need to repeatedly note the type= of plug used in
>>> the US or the UK or... =A0Just point to this new document.) >>>
>>> 2. Provide a community Venue FAQ Wiki that lets /all/ of us as= k and answer
>>> questions. =A0If there is a host, they can be more active, pre= load Qs& =A0As,
>>> etc., but we do not have to rely on them.
>
>
> 1. Ray pointed out to me that we already have a wiki. =A0My suggestion= is, therefore, is to:
>
> =A0 a) =A0preload some segments for these standard topics and standard= discussions.
>
> =A0 b) =A0On the event page that points to the wiki, also load some po= inters /into/ these segments in the wiki. =A0(Creating information also cre= ates a requirement to make it easy to find. =A0For IETF meetings, that'= s the meetings page.
>
> 2. I thought that my suggestion very much is a 'take it upon thems= elves' model, for creating the data. =A0The centralized part is to crea= te a standardized place for it. =A0So perhaps it's a hybrid model, like= most wikis...
>
> d/
> --
>
> =A0Dave Crocker
> =A0Brandenburg InternetWorking
> =A0bbiw.net
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--20cf307cff50be205c04b0c2713a-- From pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu Wed Nov 2 08:54:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F33D21F84CF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:54:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.398 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.398 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.201, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8cGlLD6IpcbB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.227]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB61321F8ECE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.72]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id sFcX1h00B1ZXKqc5CFuqTw; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:54:50 +0000 Received: from Paul-Kyzivats-MacBook-Pro.local ([24.62.109.41]) by omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id sFup1h0160tdiYw3hFupcC; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:54:50 +0000 Message-ID: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:54:47 -0400 From: Paul Kyzivat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:54:54 -0000 I saw a passing comment somewhere that ATMs were scarce in Taipei and one should bring cash to convert to local currency. But I also think I saw a reference to an ATM at the airport. Can someone in the know expound on the availability (or lack thereof) of ATMs? Thanks, Paul From mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com Wed Nov 2 09:12:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C88321F901E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:12:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.108 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.108 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.176, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fuJkb-smtDqj for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3D9221F9016 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5so359303vws.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:11:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+fsGT2kW9bL0yZPbNsdkqJgcV4jfcOqhVRIyki+j+YI=; b=pc3FT3AeZevCmC2Preb+TkUsF8AhiWayTV6sqKHHUlLVNP7nD2QB2AciODy59lVpy8 4GulJpBZ5SUOclZkNemRGZU/lcBARrDcTWIfd2eY5eb3+w07EYMmoV2VU5QyAVu/lPQN y455B294copjGuW4mxHNgsM6EzbLPVlLaDUk4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.20.207 with SMTP id p15mr5019150vde.87.1320250293423; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:11:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> References: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:11:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Paul Kyzivat Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307cff50c10d8504b0c2b93f Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:12:05 -0000 --20cf307cff50c10d8504b0c2b93f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lonely planet website indicates that ATMs are usually found in 7-Elevens: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/taiwan/practical-information/money-costs And, if you believe wikipedia, Taiwan has the highest density of 7-elevens per person in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Taiwan Mary. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > I saw a passing comment somewhere that ATMs were scarce in Taipei and one > should bring cash to convert to local currency. But I also think I saw a > reference to an ATM at the airport. > > Can someone in the know expound on the availability (or lack thereof) of > ATMs? > > Thanks, > Paul > ______________________________**_________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/82attendees > --20cf307cff50c10d8504b0c2b93f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lonely planet website indicates that ATMs are usually found in 7-Elevens:

And, if you believe wikipedia, Taiwan has the highest d= ensity of 7-elevens per person in the world:

Mary.

On Wed, Nov 2, = 2011 at 10:54 AM, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
I saw a passing comment somewhere that ATMs were scarce in Taipei and one s= hould bring cash to convert to local currency. But I also think I saw a ref= erence to an ATM at the airport.

Can someone in the know expound on the availability (or lack thereof) of AT= Ms?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Thanks,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Paul
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--20cf307cff50c10d8504b0c2b93f-- From akatlas@juniper.net Wed Nov 2 09:12:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2757E1F0C9E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:12:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HK2DP9ib6fIy for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og106.obsmtp.com (exprod7og106.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.165]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21821F0C97 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob106.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:12:10 PDT Received: from p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.24) by P-EMHUB02-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:11:06 -0700 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe01-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::d0d1:653d:5b91:a123%11]) with mapi; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:11:06 -0400 From: Alia Atlas To: Mary Barnes , Eric Burger Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:11:04 -0400 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Meeting wiki ( was Re: [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet Thread-Index: AcyZd01MA+/GeWl3SPuAhcn8oiPMpgAAlt8A Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_A0F87AA600EF73468BA3741CFF49DE4F0366D3039E5FEMBX01WFjnp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Meeting wiki ( was Re: [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:12:13 -0000 --_000_A0F87AA600EF73468BA3741CFF49DE4F0366D3039E5FEMBX01WFjnp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mary, I fixed it - my first try at the page didn't get tables (different wiki for= matting). I didn't move the information under the Espresso & Coffee area. Alia From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Mary Barnes Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:51 AM To: Eric Burger Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] Meeting wiki ( was Re: [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet I will note that 3 people have their arrival information listed under the "= Espresso & Coffee" area versus the Arrival coordination area: http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf82 http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/82arrivals I don't think it's right to muck with other people's information. I will n= ote that I actually find the format they used far more readable than what's= on the Arrival coordination page, but I'm a little too lazy to fix that (s= omething to keep in mind next time). Mary. On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Eric Burger > wrote: And to echo Ray again again, there has been a meeting wiki for the past few= years; the IETF has hosted it for more than a year. See . To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to preload stuff, = it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to /your/ heart's content. On Nov 1, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > On 11/1/2011 10:53 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: >> >> Then there is the volunteer model where someone takes it upon >> themself to compile infomation, a la http://hiroshima-info.info >> >> This actually came together over several months as people started >> asking questions and sending in suggestions. >> >> On Tue, 1 Nov 2011, Dave Crocker wrote: >>> 1. Do write the list of core information desired, per Wes' offer, and i= nclude >>> common answers. (We do not need to repeatedly note the type of plug us= ed in >>> the US or the UK or... Just point to this new document.) >>> >>> 2. Provide a community Venue FAQ Wiki that lets /all/ of us ask and ans= wer >>> questions. If there is a host, they can be more active, preload Qs& A= s, >>> etc., but we do not have to rely on them. > > > 1. Ray pointed out to me that we already have a wiki. My suggestion is, = therefore, is to: > > a) preload some segments for these standard topics and standard discus= sions. > > b) On the event page that points to the wiki, also load some pointers = /into/ these segments in the wiki. (Creating information also creates a re= quirement to make it easy to find. For IETF meetings, that's the meetings = page. > > 2. I thought that my suggestion very much is a 'take it upon themselves' = model, for creating the data. The centralized part is to create a standard= ized place for it. So perhaps it's a hybrid model, like most wikis... > > d/ > -- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > _______________________________________________ > IAOC mailing list > IAOC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees --_000_A0F87AA600EF73468BA3741CFF49DE4F0366D3039E5FEMBX01WFjnp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mary,

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>I fixed it – my first try at the page didn= ’t get tables (different wiki formatting).

I didn’t move the information under the Espres= so & Coffee area.

 

Alia<= /p>

 

From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@= ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mary Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, Novemb= er 02, 2011 11:51 AM
To: Eric Burger
Cc: 82attendees@ie= tf.org
Subject: [82attendees] Meeting wiki ( was Re: [IAOC] Elect= rical plug/outlet

&nbs= p;

I will note that 3 people have their arriv= al information listed under the "Espresso & Coffee" area vers= us the Arrival coordination area:

<= a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf82">http://= www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf82

<= div>

http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/82= arrivals

 

I don't think it's right to muck with = other people's information.  I will note that I actually find the form= at they used far more readable than what's on the Arrival coordination page= , but I'm a little too lazy to fix that (something to keep in mind next tim= e). 

 

Mary.=  

On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 3:58 = PM, Eric Burger <eburger@s= tandardstrack.com> wrote:

And to echo Ray again again, there has been a mee= ting wiki for the past few years; the IETF has hosted it for more than a ye= ar. See <http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/>= ;.

To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to prelo= ad stuff, it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to /your/ heart's content= .

On Nov 1, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote:

>
>= ; On 11/1/2011 10:53 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>>
>> Then t= here is the volunteer model where someone takes it upon
>> themsel= f to compile infomation, a la http://hiroshima-info.info
>>
>> This act= ually came together over several months as people started
>> askin= g questions and sending in suggestions.
>>
>> On Tue, 1 N= ov 2011, Dave Crocker wrote:
>>> 1. Do write the list of core i= nformation desired, per Wes' offer, and include
>>> common answ= ers.  (We do not need to repeatedly note the type of plug used in
&= gt;>> the US or the UK or...  Just point to this new document.)<= br>>>>
>>> 2. Provide a community Venue FAQ Wiki that = lets /all/ of us ask and answer
>>> questions.  If there i= s a host, they can be more active, preload Qs&  As,
>>>= ; etc., but we do not have to rely on them.
>
>
> 1. Ray = pointed out to me that we already have a wiki.  My suggestion is, ther= efore, is to:
>
>   a)  preload some segments for the= se standard topics and standard discussions.
>
>   b) &nbs= p;On the event page that points to the wiki, also load some pointers /into/= these segments in the wiki.  (Creating information also creates a req= uirement to make it easy to find.  For IETF meetings, that's the meeti= ngs page.
>
> 2. I thought that my suggestion very much is a 't= ake it upon themselves' model, for creating the data.  The centralized= part is to create a standardized place for it.  So perhaps it's a hyb= rid model, like most wikis...
>
> d/
> --
>
>=  Dave Crocker
>  Brandenburg InternetWorking
>  = ;bbiw.net
> _______= ________________________________________
> IAOC mailing list
> = IAOC@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.o= rg/mailman/listinfo/iaoc


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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Do all ATMs have an English UI?=20 =20 Dan =20 =20 =20 From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mary Barnes Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 6:12 PM To: Paul Kyzivat Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs =20 Lonely planet website indicates that ATMs are usually found in 7-Elevens: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/taiwan/practical-information/money-costs =20 And, if you believe wikipedia, Taiwan has the highest density of 7-elevens per person in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Taiwan =20 Mary. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: I saw a passing comment somewhere that ATMs were scarce in Taipei and one should bring cash to convert to local currency. But I also think I saw a reference to an ATM at the airport. Can someone in the know expound on the availability (or lack thereof) of ATMs? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CC997B.AE607973 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Do all ATMs have an English UI?

 

Dan

 

 

 

From:= = 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Mary Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 = 6:12 PM
To: Paul Kyzivat
Cc: = 82attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [82attendees] = ATMs

 

Lonely = planet website indicates that ATMs are usually found in = 7-Elevens:

 

And, if you believe wikipedia, Taiwan has the highest = density of 7-elevens per person in the = world:

 

Mary.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> = wrote:

I saw a passing comment = somewhere that ATMs were scarce in Taipei and one should bring cash to = convert to local currency. But I also think I saw a reference to an ATM = at the airport.

Can someone in the know expound on the = availability (or lack thereof) of ATMs?

      =  Thanks,
      =  Paul
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------_=_NextPart_001_01CC997B.AE607973-- From mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com Wed Nov 2 09:31:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA1C21F9E2D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:31:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.933 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.933 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.665, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7px+cKOXPU6A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6901221F99B3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so375327vcb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:31:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8pVkAT7oFEV397BNN+IZC4SwGekfwRU/jUja3/MoYyY=; b=Nwg7Rb/kHGBVdBxQYKyD75faVka1kOZQMGsbERR3A72criqPKGbtiml6t/rmgDuKTf fRlmqMnTI/qNsyT35Lr7EKKeuzSuSPi7HQQKHY6SyI+Q4OcuUo8RZn2Fajv7tPuBgAx8 c05FGyU2Gybm9GNEuDjT91y+lCdX3kZoLSVv4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.33.140 with SMTP id r12mr5401747vdi.36.1320251474925; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:31:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:31:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: "John R. Levine" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3079beb62d582904b0c30009 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:31:16 -0000 --20cf3079beb62d582904b0c30009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Here's a list of banks in Taiwan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banks_in_Taiwan So, you should be able to avoid the transaction fees (depending upon your bank) if you can find a branch location. For Bank of America, from the info I could find, there is a branch office in the Taipei-101 building/center. That looks to be about a 7 min walk from the Hyatt. Mary. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John R. Levine wrote: > FlyerTalk agrees, there's no shortage of ATMs, particularly inside 7-11's, > but those may charge you extra: > > http://www.flyertalk.com/**forum/asia/1063571-atms-tpe.**html > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for > Dummies", > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly > --20cf3079beb62d582904b0c30009 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's a list of banks in Taiwan:

So, you should be able to avoid the = transaction fees (depending upon your bank) if you can find a branch locati= on. =A0

For Bank of America, from the info I could find, there = is a branch office in the Taipei-101 building/center. =A0That looks to be a= bout a 7 min walk from the Hyatt. =A0

Mary.
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, John R. Levine = <johnl@iecc.com&= gt; wrote:
FlyerTalk agrees, there's no shortage of ATMs, particularly inside 7-11= 's, but those may charge you extra:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asia/1063571-atms-tpe.html

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc= .com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly

--20cf3079beb62d582904b0c30009-- From dhc@dcrocker.net Wed Nov 2 09:58:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA01111E811C; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:58:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GF6nWosAp4We; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB5A11E8114; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-67-127-55-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.127.55.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA2Gw49s029805 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:58:10 -0700 Message-ID: <4EB17698.4070709@dcrocker.net> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:58:00 -0700 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org, IAOC References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:58:11 -0000 Eric, On 11/1/2011 1:58 PM, Eric Burger wrote: > To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to preload stuff, it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to/your/ heart's content. It appears that you have some objection to having the wiki pre-loaded with some additional structure and possibly with some standard information ahead of time by "staff". What is the basis of the objection? We probably also ought to stop getting blocks of rooms at any secondary hotels. They don't affect IETF costs but do increase IETF risk if the blocks aren't filled. If attendees want rooms outside the primary, they should be on their own. Come to think of it, the convenience we get for the staff functions, by having a local host, ought to be eliminated. We're the IETF. We should each figure everything out on our own. (The quotation about not standing on the shoulders of giants but, instead, on each other's feet comes to mind.) d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From dcrocker@bbiw.net Wed Nov 2 09:54:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1499811E8111; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:54:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4YX41M+nZIB1; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E67411E8090; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-67-127-55-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.127.55.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA2GsTvj029670 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:54:37 -0700 Message-ID: <4EB175C1.10808@bbiw.net> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:54:25 -0700 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org, IAOC References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 09:54:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 10:40:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:54:41 -0000 Eric, On 11/1/2011 1:58 PM, Eric Burger wrote: > To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to preload stuff, it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to/your/ heart's content. It appears that you have some objection to having the wiki pre-loaded with some additional structure and possibly with some standard information ahead of time by "staff". What is the basis of the objection? We probably also ought to stop getting blocks of rooms at any secondary hotels. They don't affect IETF costs but do increase IETF risk if the blocks aren't filled. If attendees want rooms outside the primary, they should be on their own. Come to think of it, the convenience we get for the staff functions, by having a local host, ought to be eliminated. We're the IETF. We should each figure everything out on our own. (The quotation about not standing on the shoulders of giants but, instead, on each other's feet comes to mind.) d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From johnl@iecc.com Wed Nov 2 11:08:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2082B11E816B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:08:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vDBp4uy8KMUh for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C4C11E8154 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11607 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2011 18:08:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=2d56.4eb1871d.k1111; bh=awXJXH2HUP6tqe5GZEZwnl/iNQgs625Doy3e4kTxGXs=; b=QhTfxejf/Vm3PqgPUQY6irHhMXwgWC3AhZzdRg8s4ggAKD23qNJRqxRPQv7DloWCxDV6NV16Q9M3Ow2CzM5TfC0URL7iDS3TDHR1o01R+DzIhXNZap7G79+9nGtl1zW2nP/MObPesy+W21Jw060QCCGOHxL9kFXhXtwUL2CiZek= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 2 Nov 2011 18:08:07 -0000 Date: 2 Nov 2011 14:08:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Mary Barnes" In-Reply-To: References: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:08:34 -0000 A lot of the foreign banks are just wealth management or commercial representative offices, so I wouldn't count on finding an ATM even if they have an office. Check out the web page for B of A's Taipei branch at http://www.bankofamerica.com/tw/ > For Bank of America, from the info I could find, there is a branch office > in the Taipei-101 building/center. That looks to be about a 7 min walk > from the Hyatt. Huh? Taipei 101 is across the street from the Hyatt. It's not hard to find, being 500 metres high and by far the tallest building in the country. But it's pretty clear that your card will work at other ATM's, albeit with B of A's "we overcharge you just because we can" foreign transaction fees. For anyone with an HSBC account, they have a branch with an ATM across the street from the convention center. R's, John From dhc@dcrocker.net Wed Nov 2 11:31:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D88C11E80F8; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:31:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.116, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LOtM1N+OL0wH; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DCD11E80C8; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-67-127-55-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.127.55.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA2IVUH5032639 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:31:36 -0700 Message-ID: <4EB18C7F.207@dcrocker.net> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:31:27 -0700 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Burger References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> <4EB17698.4070709@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: IAOC , dcrocker@bbiw.net, 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:31:39 -0000 On 11/2/2011 11:25 AM, Eric Burger wrote: > I *do* have an objection to the IETF becoming a travel agency, having staff work on what FAQs to post etc. I know, it starts with the staff putting out just a template. But then it becomes staff's job to fill in the template. Then it is staff's job to anticipate new FAQs and answers. Then when something goes slightly wrong it is the IAOC's or staff's fault for not anticipating the unknown unknowns. So you don't object to the specific suggestion that I made, in and of itself. Rather you object to the possibility that it might lead to excessive work later? d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com Wed Nov 2 12:38:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B54E1F0C6F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:38:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.962 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.962 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.636, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2GWjEyion84q for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833481F0C44 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so585700vcb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZWrBGzOXgNwHYOg0yiaCT/SJAJ/if7kjhAn30Zl1fIg=; b=eqfvQ/flLv2wbmeZG+PFx0HFZ7dWZxAkkM5cLygA7IK8Eb7hRCbNkU+ARC1zn3E5H/ NWyXsg0f+hD6nVo9l21SM93hOp7wM6Q62cQZ50goiFU8RIv/v8tZKy96xuv6ERZW9WRX 4rr8UwCgh4VCS3cphNX0y+M989wwMk/ky/IQg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.21.17 with SMTP id r17mr6116028vde.53.1320262707542; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:38:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:38:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: "John R. Levine" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307c9b48b179f004b0c59d54 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 19:38:30 -0000 --20cf307c9b48b179f004b0c59d54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > A lot of the foreign banks are just wealth management or commercial > representative offices, so I wouldn't count on finding an ATM even if they > have an office. Check out the web page for B of A's Taipei branch at > http://www.bankofamerica.com/**tw/ [MB] I found that website, but didn't find any useful information. [/MB] > > > For Bank of America, from the info I could find, there is a branch office >> in the Taipei-101 building/center. That looks to be about a 7 min walk >> from the Hyatt. >> > > Huh? Taipei 101 is across the street from the Hyatt. It's not hard to > find, being 500 metres high and by far the tallest building in the country. > [MB] That's what google maps told me. I guess it depends upon where you start in the Hyatt. Certainly, that number is very much YMMV and I honestly don't know if they consider time waiting for traffic to cross streets. [/MB] > > But it's pretty clear that your card will work at other ATM's, albeit with > B of A's "we overcharge you just because we can" foreign transaction fees. > > For anyone with an HSBC account, they have a branch with an ATM across the > street from the convention center. > > R's, > John > --20cf307c9b48b179f004b0c59d54 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:08 PM, John R. = Levine <johnl@iecc.c= om> wrote:
A lot of the foreign banks are just wealth management or commercial represe= ntative offices, so I wouldn't count on finding an ATM even if they hav= e an office. =A0Check out the web page for B of A's Taipei branch at http://www.b= ankofamerica.com/tw/
[MB] I found that website,= but didn't find any useful information. [/MB]=A0


For Bank of America, from the info I could find, there is a branch office in the Taipei-101 building/center. =A0That looks to be about a 7 min walk from the Hyatt.

Huh? =A0Taipei 101 is across the street from the Hyatt. =A0It's not har= d to find, being 500 metres high and by far the tallest building in the cou= ntry.
[MB] That's what google maps told me. =A0I g= uess it depends upon where you start in the Hyatt. =A0Certainly, that numbe= r is very much YMMV and I honestly don't know if they consider time wai= ting for traffic to cross streets. [/MB]=A0

But it's pretty clear that your card will work at other ATM's, albe= it with B of A's "we overcharge you just because we can" fore= ign transaction fees.

For anyone with an HSBC account, they have a branch with an ATM across the = street from the convention center.

R's,
John

--20cf307c9b48b179f004b0c59d54-- From lberger@labn.net Wed Nov 2 14:59:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBAA1F0C5D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:59:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.935 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.935 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.226, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Y2FyMsVLjhU for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D7521F0C59 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 5081 invoked by uid 0); 2 Nov 2011 21:59:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box313.bluehost.com) (69.89.31.113) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2011 21:59:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=z2QiyC/f/AHktiFLF6NVQb+ygt+MWShOH5qR2KVfRUU=; b=QFE+Bq3WAV9yrANa7bDJklyl5NqXnKZYeS9iZ8BaXRJSmeavhEYdSm+/HwLSnfT/ADqvZ/GG03U1qPwP5Fc5jklENJiBcRo0cZAjsqs8Rsm8mL7GY8T8b4NuckBscBOa; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RLiqI-0005oa-5f; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:59:30 -0600 Message-ID: <4EB1BD46.6060405@labn.net> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 17:59:34 -0400 From: Lou Berger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100722 Eudora/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Kyzivat References: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 21:59:32 -0000 It appears there's some next door to the meeting: Taipei World Trade Center Banking Service: NO.5, Hsin-Yi Rd., Sec 5, Taipei, Taiwan, 11011, R.O.C. 1. ATM, banking, postal and other services are available at the TWTC Hall 1 entrance (Hsinyi Rd.), the "World Trade Plaza" entrance of the International Trade Building (Keelung Rd.). 2. Currency exchange services is available in the post offce at the TWTC Hall 1 (near by entrance 11) during the exhibition period, the opening hours of the post offce will be extended in coordiance with TIBE' s daily opening hours. 3. ATMs available on both sides of the TWTC Hall 2 entrance. 4. ATMs available on both sides of the TWTC Hall 3's Songshou Rd. entrance. On 11/2/2011 11:54 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > I saw a passing comment somewhere that ATMs were scarce in Taipei and > one should bring cash to convert to local currency. But I also think I > saw a reference to an ATM at the airport. > > Can someone in the know expound on the availability (or lack thereof) of > ATMs? > > Thanks, > Paul > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > > From eburger@standardstrack.com Wed Nov 2 11:25:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E9C11E80F8; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:25:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dbWSunJBZcUD; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from biz104.inmotionhosting.com (biz104.inmotionhosting.com [173.247.254.120]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EDE11E80C8; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:25:38 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=standardstrack.com; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-Source:X-Source-Args:X-Source-Dir; b=lmQtSCdDV8aWBXJo6JcaPrOloCxk5HEVY5xOarTipfuJdSbyVUvJcjX7rDsTq75jWbbZtACiNKaI838a+9pThMcklwt7bAWBvyya/4J7fA6V5f5m2KIvIlpiUhx1kPnq; Received: from [141.161.133.141] (port=17483 helo=[10.176.1.224]) by biz104.inmotionhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RLfVI-00068c-9B; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 11:25:36 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-297-501234223; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Eric Burger In-Reply-To: <4EB17698.4070709@dcrocker.net> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:25:34 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> <4EB17698.4070709@dcrocker.net> To: dcrocker@bbiw.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - biz104.inmotionhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - standardstrack.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:36:01 -0700 Cc: IAOC , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:25:46 -0000 --Apple-Mail-297-501234223 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There is a huge difference between an objection to doing something and = signing up for being something we are not. Not only would I encourage the wiki, but for every IETF that I have = attended (Taipei will be a first in that I will miss it) I have been an = active contributor to the wiki. Thus, wiki use and availability is not = some abstract concept that would be nice for other people to use. = Rather, it is an important tool FOR ME AND ANYONE WHO PLAYS SOCCER (as = an example) and it is great that it is hosted at ietf.org instead of = softarmor.com or standardstrack.com. I *do* have an objection to the IETF becoming a travel agency, having = staff work on what FAQs to post etc. I know, it starts with the staff = putting out just a template. But then it becomes staff's job to fill in = the template. Then it is staff's job to anticipate new FAQs and answers. = Then when something goes slightly wrong it is the IAOC's or staff's = fault for not anticipating the unknown unknowns. On Nov 2, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > Eric, >=20 > On 11/1/2011 1:58 PM, Eric Burger wrote: >> To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to preload = stuff, it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to/your/ heart's = content. >=20 >=20 > It appears that you have some objection to having the wiki pre-loaded = with some additional structure and possibly with some standard = information ahead of time by "staff". >=20 > What is the basis of the objection? >=20 > We probably also ought to stop getting blocks of rooms at any = secondary hotels. They don't affect IETF costs but do increase IETF = risk if the blocks aren't filled. If attendees want rooms outside the = primary, they should be on their own. >=20 > Come to think of it, the convenience we get for the staff functions, = by having a local host, ought to be eliminated. >=20 > We're the IETF. 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mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC221F0C3D; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5so757759vws.31 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:44:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Zm4si5I1QNOYUbMA8wyEIBxBlqw+2Vdls9I9If6P9K4=; b=IBVKbwYc6ma9BizVwP3NsV6ity+U6nrXX8WJK/i4u0r7iu2SklXYovhIp6Np9JvHvc 72wBIa8MzrE0vyw6+37Z1HACdAgEFBQdb8hYvQgxf23esCZPZRDtPoq27JNFY3YUrw9L sl98rOC0lg81MWoRzfUc9DKcBTLRhaJmu201c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.33.140 with SMTP id r12mr6839191vdi.36.1320273854573; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:44:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> <4EB17698.4070709@dcrocker.net> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:44:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Eric Burger Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: IAOC , dcrocker@bbiw.net, 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:44:16 -0000 I agree that the wiki is something everyone can and should contribute to when they find information that others might also be interested in. I would think that it's very useful for anyone that comes upon useful information (e.g., ATMs) to share it as soon as they have the info as that saves others the time in searching (or talking to travel agents about the stuff). I would think that since folks in the IAOC (at least some of them) have visited the sites and looked into some of these things much earlier than the average participant that they could add the information sooner than the average participant. I think doing so would be a service to the community and as you note, it's not hard to populate wikis. Regards, Mary. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Eric Burger wr= ote: > There is a huge difference between an objection to doing something and si= gning up for being something we are not. > > Not only would I encourage the wiki, but for every IETF that I have atten= ded (Taipei will be a first in that I will miss it) I have been an active c= ontributor to the wiki. Thus, wiki use and availability is not some abstrac= t concept that would be nice for other people to use. Rather, it is an impo= rtant tool FOR ME AND ANYONE WHO PLAYS SOCCER (as an example) and it is gre= at that it is hosted at ietf.org instead of softarmor.com or standardstrack= .com. > > I *do* have an objection to the IETF becoming a travel agency, having sta= ff work on what FAQs to post etc. I know, it starts with the staff putting = out just a template. But then it becomes staff's job to fill in the templat= e. Then it is staff's job to anticipate new FAQs and answers. Then when som= ething goes slightly wrong it is the IAOC's or staff's fault for not antici= pating the unknown unknowns. > > On Nov 2, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > >> Eric, >> >> On 11/1/2011 1:58 PM, Eric Burger wrote: >>> To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to preload stu= ff, it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to/your/ =A0heart's content. >> >> >> It appears that you have some objection to having the wiki pre-loaded wi= th some additional structure and possibly with some standard information ah= ead of time by "staff". >> >> What is the basis of the objection? >> >> We probably also ought to stop getting blocks of rooms at any secondary = hotels. =A0They don't affect IETF costs but do increase IETF risk if the bl= ocks aren't filled. =A0If attendees want rooms outside the primary, they sh= ould be on their own. >> >> Come to think of it, the convenience we get for the staff functions, by = having a local host, ought to be eliminated. >> >> We're the IETF. =A0We should each figure everything out on our own. >> >> (The quotation about not standing on the shoulders of giants but, instea= d, on each other's feet comes to mind.) >> >> d/ >> -- >> >> =A0Dave Crocker >> =A0Brandenburg InternetWorking >> =A0bbiw.net >> _______________________________________________ >> IAOC mailing list >> IAOC@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > From Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com Wed Nov 2 15:54:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC8A1F0C95 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:54:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.849 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.849 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g4TPsbwqtOtc for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgw-sa01.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.1.47]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 962851F0C57 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 15:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vaebh105.NOE.Nokia.com (vaebh105.europe.nokia.com [10.160.244.31]) by mgw-sa01.nokia.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pA2MsU4r031434; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:54:31 +0200 Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.21]) by vaebh105.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 3 Nov 2011 00:54:30 +0200 Received: from 008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com ([169.254.6.167]) by 008-AM1MMR1-012.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.21]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.002; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:54:29 +0100 From: To: , <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [82attendees] ATMs Thread-Index: AQHMmXfd0oZN1cEb1E+ml4/fqB3nhJWaL5BA Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:54:28 +0000 Message-ID: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476156358@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.243.187.70] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2011 22:54:30.0593 (UTC) FILETIME=[61805310:01CC99B2] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 22:54:39 -0000 I can confirm the availability of ATMs at the Taipei airport. I used one of= them 3 weeks ago, that one was located just before the exit from the airpo= rt building. It had an English UI. If you mistype your pin, you get a receipt with a 4 digit number in the 'co= de' field (good luck in finding out what that means). When the transaction = goes through, that same field should say 'OK'. I saw plenty of ATMs all over the city. - Gabor -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of ext Paul Kyzivat Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 8:55 AM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] ATMs I saw a passing comment somewhere that ATMs were scarce in Taipei and one s= hould bring cash to convert to local currency. But I also think I saw a ref= erence to an ATM at the airport. Can someone in the know expound on the availability (or lack thereof) of AT= Ms? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From bob.hinden@gmail.com Wed Nov 2 16:01:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3616D1F0C46; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:01:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.762 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.762 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.837, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E6zRaMvPKrwg; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A621F0C8E; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ywt2 with SMTP id 2so733824ywt.31 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:01:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=0/nFQcOBoS0O610/R458M8wJsI/QxBD90x63923+PYQ=; b=sDGUVcrHq7p61Yks9Ix72YVl2RxGEfC0HD4HXXedoXqzphLHkFCqlOi3Fj2Ji1GLFZ gbuzCq0+ASunMGeMzG+b8p3n7unbx3UPPngEc7Kj6eCIiDAP1KZpBpS5hLNyeFmRIu1m rkCrFF1QaD8oNM6NwROgybBOGxMFVQOtBeNs0= Received: by 10.68.12.138 with SMTP id y10mr7446559pbb.70.1320274891563; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.25] (c-24-130-227-241.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [24.130.227.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jm5sm8337122pbc.1.2011.11.02.16.01.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:01:28 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7A312716-DBD1-4CB7-8233-6D02284B15D8@gmail.com> References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> <4EB17698.4070709@dcrocker.net> To: Mary Barnes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: IAOC , Bob Hinden , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:01:34 -0000 Mary, To clarify, IAOC members do not do site visits. Secretariat staff and = the NOC team do the site visits, but since it done several years earlier = than the meeting, expecting them to remember details like the location = of ATMs is probably a bit optimistic. To paraphrase a common = expression, "search engines are our friend". Bob On Nov 2, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: > I agree that the wiki is something everyone can and should contribute > to when they find information that others might also be interested in. > I would think that it's very useful for anyone that comes upon useful > information (e.g., ATMs) to share it as soon as they have the info as > that saves others the time in searching (or talking to travel agents > about the stuff). I would think that since folks in the IAOC (at least > some of them) have visited the sites and looked into some of these > things much earlier than the average participant that they could add > the information sooner than the average participant. I think doing so > would be a service to the community and as you note, it's not hard to > populate wikis. >=20 > Regards, > Mary. >=20 > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Eric Burger = wrote: >> There is a huge difference between an objection to doing something = and signing up for being something we are not. >>=20 >> Not only would I encourage the wiki, but for every IETF that I have = attended (Taipei will be a first in that I will miss it) I have been an = active contributor to the wiki. Thus, wiki use and availability is not = some abstract concept that would be nice for other people to use. = Rather, it is an important tool FOR ME AND ANYONE WHO PLAYS SOCCER (as = an example) and it is great that it is hosted at ietf.org instead of = softarmor.com or standardstrack.com. >>=20 >> I *do* have an objection to the IETF becoming a travel agency, having = staff work on what FAQs to post etc. I know, it starts with the staff = putting out just a template. But then it becomes staff's job to fill in = the template. Then it is staff's job to anticipate new FAQs and answers. = Then when something goes slightly wrong it is the IAOC's or staff's = fault for not anticipating the unknown unknowns. >>=20 >> On Nov 2, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: >>=20 >>> Eric, >>>=20 >>> On 11/1/2011 1:58 PM, Eric Burger wrote: >>>> To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to preload = stuff, it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to/your/ heart's = content. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> It appears that you have some objection to having the wiki = pre-loaded with some additional structure and possibly with some = standard information ahead of time by "staff". >>>=20 >>> What is the basis of the objection? >>>=20 >>> We probably also ought to stop getting blocks of rooms at any = secondary hotels. They don't affect IETF costs but do increase IETF = risk if the blocks aren't filled. If attendees want rooms outside the = primary, they should be on their own. >>>=20 >>> Come to think of it, the convenience we get for the staff functions, = by having a local host, ought to be eliminated. >>>=20 >>> We're the IETF. We should each figure everything out on our own. >>>=20 >>> (The quotation about not standing on the shoulders of giants but, = instead, on each other's feet comes to mind.) >>>=20 >>> d/ >>> -- >>>=20 >>> Dave Crocker >>> Brandenburg InternetWorking >>> bbiw.net >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IAOC mailing list >>> IAOC@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >>=20 >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > IAOC mailing list > IAOC@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc From prvs=280618db9=jjaeggli@zynga.com Wed Nov 2 16:08:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B66111E80B8; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:08:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.077 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.077 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.477, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 49hOn-wNX-u4; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from c7-ip02.zynga.com (c7-ip02.zynga.com [72.5.237.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A7BD11E80AB; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=172.16.100.23; receiver=c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received-SPF: Pass identity=mailfrom; client-ip=172.16.100.23; receiver=c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=172.16.100.23; receiver=c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="postmaster@C7-EX-HUB02.corp.zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received: from c7-ex-hub02.corp.zynga.com ([172.16.100.23]) by c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2011 16:08:38 -0700 Received: from C7-EX-MB03.corp.zynga.com ([fe80::91f8:94d3:4c14:48cc]) by C7-EX-HUB02.corp.zynga.com ([::1]) with mapi; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:08:38 -0700 From: Joel Jaeggli To: Bob Hinden , Mary Barnes Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:08:35 -0700 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet Thread-Index: AcyZtFoy9kT1v58cRSyOOGEGCVO4wg== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7A312716-DBD1-4CB7-8233-6D02284B15D8@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: IAOC , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:08:39 -0000 at this point 2-3 years elapse between a site visit and the use of the location... In the case of this venue a significant amount of building in the neighbor containing among other things hotels are entirely new since the site survey... There is on the other hand a rather organized local host who produced their own materials and who have the advantage of local knowledge. joel --=20 Joel Jaeggli=20 Network Engineering +1.541.513.4095 jjaeggli@zynga.com On 11/2/11 16:01 , "Bob Hinden" wrote: >Mary, > >To clarify, IAOC members do not do site visits. Secretariat staff and >the NOC team do the site visits, but since it done several years earlier >than the meeting, expecting them to remember details like the location of >ATMs is probably a bit optimistic. To paraphrase a common expression, >"search engines are our friend". > >Bob > > >On Nov 2, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: > >> I agree that the wiki is something everyone can and should contribute >> to when they find information that others might also be interested in. >> I would think that it's very useful for anyone that comes upon useful >> information (e.g., ATMs) to share it as soon as they have the info as >> that saves others the time in searching (or talking to travel agents >> about the stuff). I would think that since folks in the IAOC (at least >> some of them) have visited the sites and looked into some of these >> things much earlier than the average participant that they could add >> the information sooner than the average participant. I think doing so >> would be a service to the community and as you note, it's not hard to >> populate wikis. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Mary. >>=20 >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Eric Burger >> wrote: >>> There is a huge difference between an objection to doing something and >>>signing up for being something we are not. >>>=20 >>> Not only would I encourage the wiki, but for every IETF that I have >>>attended (Taipei will be a first in that I will miss it) I have been an >>>active contributor to the wiki. Thus, wiki use and availability is not >>>some abstract concept that would be nice for other people to use. >>>Rather, it is an important tool FOR ME AND ANYONE WHO PLAYS SOCCER (as >>>an example) and it is great that it is hosted at ietf.org instead of >>>softarmor.com or standardstrack.com. >>>=20 >>> I *do* have an objection to the IETF becoming a travel agency, having >>>staff work on what FAQs to post etc. I know, it starts with the staff >>>putting out just a template. But then it becomes staff's job to fill in >>>the template. Then it is staff's job to anticipate new FAQs and >>>answers. Then when something goes slightly wrong it is the IAOC's or >>>staff's fault for not anticipating the unknown unknowns. >>>=20 >>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Eric, >>>>=20 >>>> On 11/1/2011 1:58 PM, Eric Burger wrote: >>>>> To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to preload >>>>>stuff, it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to/your/ heart's >>>>>content. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> It appears that you have some objection to having the wiki pre-loaded >>>>with some additional structure and possibly with some standard >>>>information ahead of time by "staff". >>>>=20 >>>> What is the basis of the objection? >>>>=20 >>>> We probably also ought to stop getting blocks of rooms at any >>>>secondary hotels. They don't affect IETF costs but do increase IETF >>>>risk if the blocks aren't filled. If attendees want rooms outside the >>>>primary, they should be on their own. >>>>=20 >>>> Come to think of it, the convenience we get for the staff functions, >>>>by having a local host, ought to be eliminated. >>>>=20 >>>> We're the IETF. We should each figure everything out on our own. >>>>=20 >>>> (The quotation about not standing on the shoulders of giants but, >>>>instead, on each other's feet comes to mind.) >>>>=20 >>>> d/ >>>> -- >>>>=20 >>>> Dave Crocker >>>> Brandenburg InternetWorking >>>> bbiw.net >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> IAOC mailing list >>>> IAOC@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 82attendees mailing list >>> 82attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >>>=20 >>>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> IAOC mailing list >> IAOC@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc > >_______________________________________________ >82attendees mailing list >82attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com Wed Nov 2 16:20:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5176E1F0C96; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:20:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.013 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.013 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.586, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FHppDIzQcdnL; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA951F0C36; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so764581vcb.31 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XkfvFTUayNm5Et+a2Yd4O11zw2PVdv5s0qQ7DX924H0=; b=YT/+LO3uqg0ScPOkuA6QrOyGOcBchNT4aTURN4l2BNvkM8w9vfLDSJJcp85oP/JINP o/Dk2ZD5kTNROX97tZR5vu8H1Y2PGdKhTQqBX5tuCOdgSnADC2dfBOffR57ylf9rTSGo 5OsN+2/lN/5CWKd2TyCl7Sh9w1P/YthsJC3jg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.33.140 with SMTP id r12mr6971483vdi.36.1320276030548; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7A312716-DBD1-4CB7-8233-6D02284B15D8@gmail.com> References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> <4EB17698.4070709@dcrocker.net> <7A312716-DBD1-4CB7-8233-6D02284B15D8@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:20:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Bob Hinden Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: IAOC , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:20:32 -0000 Bob, Thanks for the clarification. Yes, we can sometimes find what we're looking for with search engines, but that ends up with 1000+ people spending their time searching. And, sometimes that information is >3 years old (I found details on someone's trip to Taipei in 2007 - not very helpful), so it may well be less reliable than firsthand info from someone that has been there. I like the wiki idea - I was just suggesting that folks that know information sooner, share it. The folks you mention would have that info sooner - maybe not ATMs, but at least supermarket info, etc. My suggestion would be that when folks add info to the wiki, they annotate if the info is just from a search engine or whether it was confirmed and when. I just added a section on the wiki for ATMs and added the bit of info that I could find online. If others could add their info (I don't feel at liberty to do so on their behalf) that would be great (or if you ping me and say it's okay, I will do that). Mary. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Bob Hinden wrote: > Mary, > > To clarify, IAOC members do not do site visits. =A0Secretariat staff and = the NOC team do the site visits, but since it done several years earlier th= an the meeting, expecting them to remember details like the location of ATM= s is probably a bit optimistic. =A0To paraphrase a common expression, "sear= ch engines are our friend". > > Bob > > > On Nov 2, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: > >> I agree that the wiki is something everyone can and should contribute >> to when they find information that others might also be interested in. >> I would think that it's very useful for anyone that comes upon useful >> information (e.g., ATMs) to share it as soon as they have the info as >> that saves others the time in searching (or talking to travel agents >> about the stuff). I would think that since folks in the IAOC (at least >> some of them) have visited the sites and looked into some of these >> things much earlier than the average participant that they could add >> the information sooner than the average participant. =A0I think doing so >> would be a service to the community and as you note, it's not hard to >> populate wikis. >> >> Regards, >> Mary. >> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Eric Burger = wrote: >>> There is a huge difference between an objection to doing something and = signing up for being something we are not. >>> >>> Not only would I encourage the wiki, but for every IETF that I have att= ended (Taipei will be a first in that I will miss it) I have been an active= contributor to the wiki. Thus, wiki use and availability is not some abstr= act concept that would be nice for other people to use. Rather, it is an im= portant tool FOR ME AND ANYONE WHO PLAYS SOCCER (as an example) and it is g= reat that it is hosted at ietf.org instead of softarmor.com or standardstra= ck.com. >>> >>> I *do* have an objection to the IETF becoming a travel agency, having s= taff work on what FAQs to post etc. I know, it starts with the staff puttin= g out just a template. But then it becomes staff's job to fill in the templ= ate. Then it is staff's job to anticipate new FAQs and answers. Then when s= omething goes slightly wrong it is the IAOC's or staff's fault for not anti= cipating the unknown unknowns. >>> >>> On Nov 2, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: >>> >>>> Eric, >>>> >>>> On 11/1/2011 1:58 PM, Eric Burger wrote: >>>>> To be redundant, we HAVE a wiki. Fill it in. If you want to preload s= tuff, it is a wiki -- feel free to load it up to/your/ =A0heart's content. >>>> >>>> >>>> It appears that you have some objection to having the wiki pre-loaded = with some additional structure and possibly with some standard information = ahead of time by "staff". >>>> >>>> What is the basis of the objection? >>>> >>>> We probably also ought to stop getting blocks of rooms at any secondar= y hotels. =A0They don't affect IETF costs but do increase IETF risk if the = blocks aren't filled. =A0If attendees want rooms outside the primary, they = should be on their own. >>>> >>>> Come to think of it, the convenience we get for the staff functions, b= y having a local host, ought to be eliminated. >>>> >>>> We're the IETF. =A0We should each figure everything out on our own. >>>> >>>> (The quotation about not standing on the shoulders of giants but, inst= ead, on each other's feet comes to mind.) >>>> >>>> d/ >>>> -- >>>> >>>> =A0Dave Crocker >>>> =A0Brandenburg InternetWorking >>>> =A0bbiw.net >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> IAOC mailing list >>>> IAOC@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 82attendees mailing list >>> 82attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> IAOC mailing list >> IAOC@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iaoc > > From ole@cisco.com Wed Nov 2 16:31:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A638411E8094; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:31:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.275 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.275 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.324, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7L-Ery85UMW8; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09CC511E8091; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:31:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=2268; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1320276693; x=1321486293; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=Iiq7FvxjwlOTDjxUWop3mwa677GY8mdWs1W2l/m8ofw=; b=Oxwr4ecpPqIjrRdxxDqVqEKicI4wSCyI9mLvuuC9fTp6YDqgFEsDBWAk 1yKeUGhVWmfbcz/aA6hrocFWjEfO7hX2qYz6TdPndKTjc7lGEwyMXnydh IF2pKDwgTeLGSgSYfq35YLTbVY0FrQ/QvaN4cYoBEBI6NGHO9arYfRfNE I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAE/SsU6rRDoH/2dsb2JhbABBA6l3gQWBcgEBAQMBEgECASQuEQULC0ZXBhMUDodgljkBgyoPAZtChXuDFQSIB5ZJh0k X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,446,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="11996224" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 02 Nov 2011 23:31:32 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn7-335.cisco.com (sjc-vpn7-335.cisco.com [10.21.145.79]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA2NVVdS025284; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:31:31 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 16:31:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Mary Barnes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> <4EB17698.4070709@dcrocker.net> <7A312716-DBD1-4CB7-8233-6D02284B15D8@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: IAOC , Bob Hinden , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:31:35 -0000 Mary, Based on the 74 IETF meetings I have attended, let me observe that: * The secretariat does a good job of providing the basic info * The host (more recently) does a good job of providing additional info * The community, via the wiki, takes care of the rest I don't think we need to change this basic model. The host stuff is already the result of "look at what the previous host did" and discussions with Ray and AMS prior to the event. We also have WEEKLY conference calls with the hosting team where suggestions are made for such things as "where to get SIM cards" for the host website. Some of this could indeed be pre-filled as a template, in a sense it already is. If something is missing/confusing, just drop a note to this list and chances are that either someone from the host will reply or if not we will find someone who can help and then someone can post the answer to the wiki. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Wed, 2 Nov 2011, Mary Barnes wrote: > Bob, > > Thanks for the clarification. > > Yes, we can sometimes find what we're looking for with search engines, > but that ends up with 1000+ people spending their time searching. > And, sometimes that information is >3 years old (I found details on > someone's trip to Taipei in 2007 - not very helpful), so it may well > be less reliable than firsthand info from someone that has been there. > > I like the wiki idea - I was just suggesting that folks that know > information sooner, share it. The folks you mention would have that > info sooner - maybe not ATMs, but at least supermarket info, etc. My > suggestion would be that when folks add info to the wiki, they > annotate if the info is just from a search engine or whether it was > confirmed and when. > > I just added a section on the wiki for ATMs and added the bit of info > that I could find online. If others could add their info (I don't > feel at liberty to do so on their behalf) that would be great (or if > you ping me and say it's okay, I will do that). > > Mary. > From mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com Wed Nov 2 18:02:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F6111E80DB; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:02:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.036 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.036 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.563, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7cn7R4D0-wE9; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2EA11E80B0; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by vcbfl11 with SMTP id fl11so815894vcb.31 for ; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:01:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IqVkP5fEH0AIbuWHqnYySgSTYAM2DGOfSWRBMDw+pjo=; b=VjX49n6bxiITJe91VZbo+ui3x9S7/09w7ycCp9tAClxAAZoPouYP7oG6wsPoomCvyu 3p4c/IgrWvoCpd5M4ooBzGZ/xfPKwx0FhbHB/mN7tDJ5Xgzo7RXp3qmTNcjQ0h2qDIFf LMOElgwZ0l8Tfk9uduXKTetT/DRX8vAs2LR/I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.97.35 with SMTP id dx3mr7280532vdb.2.1320282119495; Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 18:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:01:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Ole Jacobsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: IAOC , Bob Hinden , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] Who should populate the wiki? (was Re: [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 01:02:03 -0000 I think all that what I am trying to suggest is that some information in the wiki be pre-populated - I don't think anyone's suggesting the basic model change - I think there is push back because of the suggestion that there are people that naturally know more about the venue because they've been to the venue, interacted directly with the host, etc. thus it would be good if they would provide some of the information before the attendees start wondering about it and doing their own searches. The amount of information on the host sites varies tremendously and of course, the formats for the webpages are all different, so finding the same information each time isn't as easy as it might seem. One thing that might help is to add links in the wiki pointing to the host webpage in cases where the host information is complete. That will help folks to see information that is really missing or most helpful to provide. One gap in the current host website is with regards to ATMs. I find the ATM information quite useful as I prefer to get foreign currency when I arrive versus at the airport when I am leaving. I also do not like to carry a lot of cash, thus I use my ATM card. Having lost my wallet at the beginning of the meeting in Beijing, I can tell you that it's very stressful to go through a meeting without cash. The only info on the host website under the currency link is the exchange rate and banking hours. Mary. On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Mary, > > Based on the 74 IETF meetings I have attended, let me observe that: > > * The secretariat does a good job of providing the basic info > > * The host (more recently) does a good job of providing additional > =A0info > > * The community, via the wiki, takes care of the rest > > I don't think we need to change this basic model. The host stuff is > already the result of "look at what the previous host did" and > discussions with Ray and AMS prior to the event. We also have WEEKLY > conference calls with the hosting team where suggestions are made for > such things as "where to get SIM cards" for the host website. Some of > this could indeed be pre-filled as a template, in a sense it already > is. > > If something is missing/confusing, just drop a note to this list and > chances are that either someone from the host will reply or if not we > will find someone who can help and then someone can post the answer > to the wiki. > > Ole > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com =A0URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > Skype: organdemo > From wyb@asia.com Wed Nov 2 22:29:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A13B11E8086 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:29:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SP4yXwtMd+nJ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C0FC11E8080 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 2 Nov 2011 22:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 4985 invoked by uid 0); 3 Nov 2011 05:29:03 -0000 Received: from 58.97.159.240 by rms-us013.v300.gmx.net with HTTP Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary223501320298143567101" Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 01:29:02 -0400 From: "South and South East Asian Coordination - World Youth Bank" Message-ID: <20111103052903.223500@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Authenticated: #115685356 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 X-GMX-UID: qB6HegUd4FuC9JhNlmJqfnZudWkvKNOC Subject: [82attendees] Youth Banking Code Development Globally X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 05:29:05 -0000 --========GMXBoundary223501320298143567101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Attn : Delegates those who will be attending in Taiwan ROC to be meeting & Sharing to each others. Dear friends, It's our pleasure to be attending with you're in Taiwan ROC but properly not handling consular issues. Most welcome to grow up youth banking code develoment globally as create more jobs through initiative and social banking, it's upgrade training, microfinancing, exchange through social banking to create jobs. Being the status, need to grow more activision of Euro-American zone crisis of economy. Not only to be uprising tires to create more projects around every where as it's supports more for policy & programme development through co-operation, it's be needed at the present stage of the global. Sorry, we are missing this emerging event. In future, we'll be attending all of your organized initiatives if you are invite earlier and to be sharing exoperience, create more ideas and knowing at least for views. We have Media & Press Unit for South & South East Asian region and most welcome to knocking us. 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=20 Attn : = Delegates those who will be attending in Taiwan ROC to be meeting & Sha= ring to each others.
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=20 Dear friends,
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=20 It's o= ur pleasure to be attending with you're in Taiwan ROC but properly not hand= ling consular issues.
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=20 Most welcome to grow up youth banking code develoment globally as create = more jobs through initiative and social banking, it's upgrade training, mic= rofinancing, exchange through social banking to create jobs. Being the stat= us, need to grow more activision of Euro-American zone crisis of economy.=20
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=20 Sorry, we are missing this emerging event. In future, we'll be attending = all of your organized initiatives if you are invite earlier and to be shari= ng exoperience, create more ideas and knowing at least for views.
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=20 We have Media & Press Unit for South & South East Asian region an= d most welcome to knocking us.
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=20 Thanks and best regards,
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=20 Ilias Siddiqui, Regional Coordinator for Asia and the Pacific
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=20 --========GMXBoundary223501320298143567101-- From wesley.george@twcable.com Thu Nov 3 06:04:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A91BF11E8113; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 06:04:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.301 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.162, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tIvmSb8MSEIb; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 06:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdpipgw02.twcable.com (cdpipgw02.twcable.com [165.237.59.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F65E11E8117; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 06:04:50 -0700 (PDT) X-SENDER-IP: 10.136.163.14 X-SENDER-REPUTATION: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,449,1315195200"; d="scan'208";a="277729252" Received: from unknown (HELO PRVPEXHUB05.corp.twcable.com) ([10.136.163.14]) by cdpipgw02.twcable.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 03 Nov 2011 09:00:27 -0400 Received: from PRVPEXVS03.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.27]) by PRVPEXHUB05.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.14]) with mapi; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:04:46 -0400 From: "George, Wes" To: Ole Jacobsen , Mary Barnes Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:04:45 -0400 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet Thread-Index: AcyZt5La3cZ9BiooTO+fMysqBJTwdQAcJGIw Message-ID: References: <4EB01E8D.1090107@gmail.com> <4EB0555B.3010507@bbiw.net> <4EB17698.4070709@dcrocker.net> <7A312716-DBD1-4CB7-8233-6D02284B15D8@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: IAOC , Bob Hinden , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:04:51 -0000 > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen > > If something is missing/confusing, just drop a note to this list and > chances are that either someone from the host will reply or if not we > will find someone who can help and then someone can post the answer to > the wiki. > Well, my point was that the *same* questions get asked on the list nearly *= every* IETF. I don't need 74 IETFs to detect a slightly broken pattern here= . That said, I think that it's equal parts failure to RTFM (eg not consulti= ng wiki/host site before asking a question that is indeed answered) and inc= omplete information (as Mary notes in her example). Hence, I'll write a document that at least lists that info that generates F= AQs when it's missing. What people choose to do with it, either the hosts, = IETF staff or attendees, is entirely up to them. Wes George This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the u= se of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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From dhc@dcrocker.net Thu Nov 3 06:58:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB61811E8132; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 06:58:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.496 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.496 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.103, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5JrmmdyTxQwE; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 06:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B0311E8130; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 06:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-67-127-55-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.127.55.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA3DwFL0010972 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 3 Nov 2011 06:58:20 -0700 Message-ID: <4EB29DF1.3040005@dcrocker.net> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:58:09 -0700 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mary Barnes References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Thu, 03 Nov 2011 06:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Cc: IAOC , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Who should populate the wiki? (was Re: [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:58:23 -0000 On 11/2/2011 6:01 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: > I think all that what I am trying to suggest is that some information > in the wiki be pre-populated ... > One thing that might help is to add links in the wiki pointing to the > host webpage in cases where the host information is complete. ... > One gap in the current host website is with regards to ATMs. +1 d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From charliep@computer.org Thu Nov 3 11:18:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85E0611E812D; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:18:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YkgnMPqbhRB2; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F0E11E80DA; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [138.111.58.2] (helo=[172.17.96.136]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1RM1rn-00043J-AU; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:18:23 -0400 Message-ID: <4EB2DAE5.7070208@computer.org> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:18:13 -0700 From: "Charles E. Perkins" Organization: Wichorus Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EB29DF1.3040005@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: <4EB29DF1.3040005@dcrocker.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956d5d4673fe7faad867638e3d1dcbdb1de5cf5ae71bd19c1aa350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 138.111.58.2 Cc: IAOC Subject: Re: [82attendees] Who should populate the wiki? (was Re: [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: charliep@computer.org List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:18:26 -0000 Hello folks, I agree with the suggestion from Mary as summarized by Dave. Regards, Charlie P. PPS. see below... On 11/3/2011 6:58 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > On 11/2/2011 6:01 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: >> I think all that what I am trying to suggest is that some information >> in the wiki be pre-populated > ... >> One thing that might help is to add links in the wiki pointing to the >> host webpage in cases where the host information is complete. > ... >> One gap in the current host website is with regards to ATMs. > > > +1 > > d/ PS. What happens if this list remains open to posting from "non-members"? Is there really a big threat of spam? I'm just asking because I have 5 email accounts and sometimes I forget which one is which for the purposes of posting to mailing lists like this one. From charles.perkins@earthlink.net Thu Nov 3 11:00:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76131F0C7C; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:00:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GkheR1HVT0Tz; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5141F0C40; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 11:00:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=na7LPCtExNwWa0cVw9VkEHn6rfZfJQtaP3mS4sBdVn11E2+z36fqIW6q1tGd46aP; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:Organization:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [138.111.58.2] (helo=[172.17.96.136]) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1RM1aH-0003nS-6U; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:00:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4EB2D6A0.5080405@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:00:00 -0700 From: "Charles E. Perkins" Organization: Wichorus Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EB29DF1.3040005@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: <4EB29DF1.3040005@dcrocker.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956d5d4673fe7faad861efca32faf9117c9f77df1a9e780299e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 138.111.58.2 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:50:38 -0700 Cc: Mary Barnes , Dave CROCKER , dcrocker@bbiw.net, IAOC Subject: Re: [82attendees] Who should populate the wiki? (was Re: [IAOC] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:00:17 -0000 Hello folks, I agree with this suggestion. Regards, Charlie P. On 11/3/2011 6:58 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > On 11/2/2011 6:01 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: >> I think all that what I am trying to suggest is that some information >> in the wiki be pre-populated > ... >> One thing that might help is to add links in the wiki pointing to the >> host webpage in cases where the host information is complete. > ... >> One gap in the current host website is with regards to ATMs. > > > +1 > > d/ From linda.dunbar@huawei.com Thu Nov 3 12:23:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEC01F0CAF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:23:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.411 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.411 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.188, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RivlKL-ueHsu for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usaga04-in.huawei.com (usaga04-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.180]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D871F0CAB for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 12:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huawei.com (usaga04-in [172.18.4.101]) by usaga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LU300HIAN7JIZ@usaga04-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:23:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dfweml201-edg.china.huawei.com ([172.18.4.104]) by usaga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LU300MPTN7HKC@usaga04-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 14:23:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from DFWEML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.151) by dfweml201-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.9.107) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.270.1; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:23:35 -0700 Received: from DFWEML505-MBX.china.huawei.com ([10.124.31.100]) by dfweml403-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.151]) with mapi id 14.01.0270.001; Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:23:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:23:28 +0000 From: Linda Dunbar In-reply-to: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650AFE5BDD@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at> X-Originating-IP: [10.192.11.155] To: Alexander Mayrhofer , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Message-id: <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120B20EA@dfweml505-mbx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-language: en-US Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Thread-topic: Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? Thread-index: AcyW3BpuiH+Hr3lySzqA65Bd2ThcgADgZnkQ X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: References: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650AFE5BDD@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:50:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 19:23:44 -0000 Thank you very much for the information. I never thought there is scuba nea= r Taiwan.=20 I would be very interested in going on Sunday or Friday (last day of IETF).= Can you snorkel too? You are not supposed to dive after flight ride, is it= ?=20 Linda=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Alexander Mayrhofer > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 3:17 AM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? >=20 > Hello, >=20 > i'm planning to go scuba diving on Sat/Sun/Mon after the meeting (19th- > 21st), most likely to Green Island ("Lyudao"), "one of Asia's most > underrated scuba destination". Water temperature should be around 22=B0C, > visibility is rumored to be beyond 70ft - and there's lots of marine > life to see, including "Big Mushroom", the world's oldest known coral > with an estimated age of over 1200 years ... >=20 > Anybody interested in joining? >=20 > Alex > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From lufang@cisco.com Thu Nov 3 14:35:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA1E61F0CB2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:35:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.275 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.275 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.324, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KBmbNkpQDEzV for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821D61F0C7F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:35:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=lufang@cisco.com; l=2215; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1320356140; x=1321565740; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date: message-id:in-reply-to:references:from:to; bh=ckEEWWxgdjQxzO+lsP/YFF/N1t8rTyFkIqIdvxyPYWQ=; b=Rn5gAlDGlF03gX4rqHD10TjrqRA0tkOmJV9D0pzgPAh0nzrkwn3UFEWj uqerK8Lsj3wMtJMttxgBgE/j/nzkZTdbOOrm8n2wyQs02k9By6yUhjR2K Na2uJGX6UxNJmydL584KsvaxKTcotKgHrbs8fuTZkirkw61qpNJKjkdwl E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuQAANoIs06tJXHA/2dsb2JhbABEmgeOW4EhgQWBcgEBAQQBAQEPAR0+FwQCAQgRBAEBCwYXAQYBJh8JCAEBBAESCBEJh2iWBgGebASIPWIEh1cxkUqMSQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,452,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="33253468" Received: from rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com ([173.37.113.192]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Nov 2011 21:35:36 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-302.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-302.cisco.com [72.163.63.9]) by rcdn-core2-5.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA3LZaAQ010152; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:35:36 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-201.cisco.com ([72.163.62.208]) by xbh-rcd-302.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:35:36 -0500 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 16:35:31 -0500 Message-ID: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25073CA67F@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120B20EA@dfweml505-mbx> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? Thread-Index: AcyW3BpuiH+Hr3lySzqA65Bd2ThcgADgZnkQAANMA2A= References: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650AFE5BDD@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at> <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120B20EA@dfweml505-mbx> From: "Luyuan Fang (lufang)" To: "Linda Dunbar" , "Alexander Mayrhofer" , <82attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2011 21:35:36.0399 (UTC) FILETIME=[861D65F0:01CC9A70] Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:35:41 -0000 Alexander, Sounds exciting, thx! Count me in for now. I'm a PADI certified open water diver, haven't done diving for years = though.=20 I only land in Taiwan 0:20AM on Sunday, but still like to jump in for a = Sunday dive, as I don't have other time. Linda, > You are not supposed to dive after flight ride, is it?=20 Em, may be true... I did night dive in Hawaii right after 10+ hours flight, well, when I = was younger. This trip is 20+ hours, could be a problem, will see. Luyuan > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linda Dunbar > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:23 PM > To: Alexander Mayrhofer; 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? >=20 > Thank you very much for the information. I never thought there is = scuba > near Taiwan. > I would be very interested in going on Sunday or Friday (last day of > IETF). Can you snorkel too? You are not supposed to dive after flight > ride, is it? >=20 > Linda >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] > > On Behalf Of Alexander Mayrhofer > > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 3:17 AM > > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > > Subject: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? > > > > Hello, > > > > i'm planning to go scuba diving on Sat/Sun/Mon after the meeting > (19th- > > 21st), most likely to Green Island ("Lyudao"), "one of Asia's most > > underrated scuba destination". Water temperature should be around > 22=B0C, > > visibility is rumored to be beyond 70ft - and there's lots of marine > > life to see, including "Big Mushroom", the world's oldest known = coral > > with an estimated age of over 1200 years ... > > > > Anybody interested in joining? > > > > Alex > > _______________________________________________ > > 82attendees mailing list > > 82attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From jrmii@isc.org Thu Nov 3 14:41:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDF21F0CB2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:41:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D3pOIMEUsw0v for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.ams1.isc.org (mx.ams1.isc.org [IPv6:2001:500:60::65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B21F1F0C97 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bikeshed.isc.org (bikeshed.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:d::19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "bikeshed.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.ams1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 590B25F9891; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:41:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrmii@isc.org) Received: from [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:64:c0f8:ccbf:d0ee:7c03] (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:64:c0f8:ccbf:d0ee:7c03]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by bikeshed.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9B30216C6A; Thu, 3 Nov 2011 21:41:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrmii@isc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C605EEA4-A82A-49E4-AB21-7FC860A8D005" From: Jim Martin In-Reply-To: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25073CA67F@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 14:41:30 -0700 Message-Id: <8355762E-1FAF-4AEC-A438-3E43A3114FB3@isc.org> References: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650AFE5BDD@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at> <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120B20EA@dfweml505-mbx> <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25073CA67F@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> To: Luyuan Fang (lufang) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: Alexander Mayrhofer , 82attendees@ietf.org, Linda Dunbar Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 21:41:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C605EEA4-A82A-49E4-AB21-7FC860A8D005 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Luyuan Fang (lufang) wrote: >> You are not supposed to dive after flight ride, is it?=20 > Em, may be true... > I did night dive in Hawaii right after 10+ hours flight, well, when I = was younger. > This trip is 20+ hours, could be a problem, will see. That would be "not supposed to fly (or go to high altitudes) = AFTER you dive". Don't want the extra gas in solution (your blood) to = bubble out. Think of opening a soda bottle :-) The general rule is 18-24 = hours from when you surface to when you take off. - Jim --Apple-Mail=_C605EEA4-A82A-49E4-AB21-7FC860A8D005 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
You are not supposed to dive after = flight ride, is it? 
Em, may be = true...
I did night dive in Hawaii right after 10+ hours flight, = well, when I was younger.
This trip is 20+ hours, could be a problem, = will see.
That = would be "not supposed to fly (or go to high altitudes)  AFTER you = dive". Don't want the extra gas in solution (your blood) to bubble out. = Think of opening a soda bottle :-) The general rule is 18-24 hours from = when you surface to when you take off.

- = Jim

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Ah, thanks, Jim!

Ye, going upward too fast, would end up going to the decompression  chamber …

 

So we are good from high to low = then.

 

From:= Jim Martin [mailto:jrmii@isc.org]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 5:42 PM
To: Luyuan Fang (lufang)
Cc: Linda Dunbar; Alexander Mayrhofer; 82attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei = meeting?

 

 

On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Luyuan Fang (lufang) = wrote:



You are not supposed to dive after flight ride, is it? 

Em, may be true...
I did night dive in Hawaii right after 10+ hours flight, well, when I = was younger.
This trip is 20+ hours, could be a problem, will = see.

 

        &n= bsp; That would be "not supposed to fly (or go to high altitudes)  AFTER = you dive". Don't want the extra gas in solution (your blood) to bubble = out. Think of opening a soda bottle :-) The general rule is 18-24 hours from = when you surface to when you take off.

 

        &n= bsp; - Jim

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01CC9A74.BC9A2DC0-- From bruno.decraene@orange.com Fri Nov 4 01:59:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7B821F8C2B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 01:59:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4OyqXD2EMqTh for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 01:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com (r-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com [217.108.152.41]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A0921F8C15 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 01:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 348C58B8005; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:00:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from ftrdsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.192.128.47]) by r-mail1.rd.francetelecom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2771A8B8003; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:00:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from ftrdmel0.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.192.128.56]) by ftrdsmtp2.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:59:22 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:59:21 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25073CA67F@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? Thread-Index: AcyW3BpuiH+Hr3lySzqA65Bd2ThcgADgZnkQAANMA2AAGRH98A== References: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650AFE5BDD@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at><4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120B20EA@dfweml505-mbx> <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25073CA67F@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> From: To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Nov 2011 08:59:22.0266 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B6FE7A0:01CC9AD0] Cc: lufang@cisco.com, 82attendees@ietf.org, linda.dunbar@huawei.com Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 08:59:24 -0000 > i'm planning to go scuba diving on Sat/Sun/Mon after the meeting = (19th- 21st), If anyone has plans for the first WE (Sat, Sunday 11th-12th) I would be = candidate I'm a CMAS *** diver (yes, a different SDO :-) ), air only, haven't done = diving for 5 years. Bruno >-----Original Message----- >From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Luyuan Fang >(lufang) >Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:36 PM >To: Linda Dunbar; Alexander Mayrhofer; 82attendees@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? > >Alexander, > >Sounds exciting, thx! >Count me in for now. > >I'm a PADI certified open water diver, haven't done diving for years = though. >I only land in Taiwan 0:20AM on Sunday, but still like to jump in for a = Sunday dive, as I don't have >other time. > >Linda, >> You are not supposed to dive after flight ride, is it? >Em, may be true... >I did night dive in Hawaii right after 10+ hours flight, well, when I = was younger. >This trip is 20+ hours, could be a problem, will see. > >Luyuan > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linda Dunbar >> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:23 PM >> To: Alexander Mayrhofer; 82attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? >> >> Thank you very much for the information. I never thought there is = scuba >> near Taiwan. >> I would be very interested in going on Sunday or Friday (last day of >> IETF). Can you snorkel too? You are not supposed to dive after flight >> ride, is it? >> >> Linda >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- >> bounces@ietf.org] >> > On Behalf Of Alexander Mayrhofer >> > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 3:17 AM >> > To: 82attendees@ietf.org >> > Subject: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > i'm planning to go scuba diving on Sat/Sun/Mon after the meeting >> (19th- >> > 21st), most likely to Green Island ("Lyudao"), "one of Asia's most >> > underrated scuba destination". Water temperature should be around >> 22=B0C, >> > visibility is rumored to be beyond 70ft - and there's lots of = marine >> > life to see, including "Big Mushroom", the world's oldest known = coral >> > with an estimated age of over 1200 years ... >> > >> > Anybody interested in joining? >> > >> > Alex >> > _______________________________________________ >> > 82attendees mailing list >> > 82attendees@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >_______________________________________________ >82attendees mailing list >82attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From Andras.Csaszar@ericsson.com Fri Nov 4 02:31:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC90C21F8B9E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 02:31:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.02 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.02 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.279, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 474pfPSZBogB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 02:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (mailgw9.se.ericsson.net [193.180.251.57]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DB621F8AEE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 02:31:40 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb39-b7b3eae00000252a-0d-4eb3b0beb965 Received: from esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw9.se.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 27.6F.09514.EB0B3BE4; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:30:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.47]) by esessmw0191.eemea.ericsson.se ([153.88.115.84]) with mapi; Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:30:25 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E1s_Cs=E1sz=E1r?= To: "bruno.decraene@orange.com" , "alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at" Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 10:30:24 +0100 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? Thread-Index: AcyW3BpuiH+Hr3lySzqA65Bd2ThcgADgZnkQAANMA2AAGRH98AABPJLQ Message-ID: <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929744C6CDFFBD@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se> References: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650AFE5BDD@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at><4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120B20EA@dfweml505-mbx> <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25073CA67F@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: hu-HU, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: hu-HU, en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Cc: "lufang@cisco.com" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, "linda.dunbar@huawei.com" Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 09:31:41 -0000 I would also join a dive on Sunday, 13 Nov. To introduce yet another SDO :-), I'm NAUI/Advanced, and Nitrox is fine, to= o. Unfortunately, my last dive was two years ago... Andras > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of=20 > bruno.decraene@orange.com > Sent: 2011. november 4. 9:59 > To: alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at > Cc: lufang@cisco.com; 82attendees@ietf.org; linda.dunbar@huawei.com > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? >=20 >=20 > > i'm planning to go scuba diving on Sat/Sun/Mon after the meeting=20 > > (19th- 21st), >=20 > If anyone has plans for the first WE (Sat, Sunday 11th-12th)=20 > I would be candidate >=20 > I'm a CMAS *** diver (yes, a different SDO :-) ), air only,=20 > haven't done diving for 5 years. >=20 > Bruno >=20 > >-----Original Message----- > >From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > >[mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Luyuan Fang > >(lufang) > >Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:36 PM > >To: Linda Dunbar; Alexander Mayrhofer; 82attendees@ietf.org > >Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? > > > >Alexander, > > > >Sounds exciting, thx! > >Count me in for now. > > > >I'm a PADI certified open water diver, haven't done diving=20 > for years though. > >I only land in Taiwan 0:20AM on Sunday, but still like to=20 > jump in for a=20 > >Sunday dive, as I don't have other time. > > > >Linda, > >> You are not supposed to dive after flight ride, is it? > >Em, may be true... > >I did night dive in Hawaii right after 10+ hours flight,=20 > well, when I was younger. > >This trip is 20+ hours, could be a problem, will see. > > > >Luyuan > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-=20 > >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linda Dunbar > >> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:23 PM > >> To: Alexander Mayrhofer; 82attendees@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? > >> > >> Thank you very much for the information. I never thought there is=20 > >> scuba near Taiwan. > >> I would be very interested in going on Sunday or Friday=20 > (last day of=20 > >> IETF). Can you snorkel too? You are not supposed to dive=20 > after flight=20 > >> ride, is it? > >> > >> Linda > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- > >> bounces@ietf.org] > >> > On Behalf Of Alexander Mayrhofer > >> > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 3:17 AM > >> > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > >> > Subject: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? > >> > > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > i'm planning to go scuba diving on Sat/Sun/Mon after the meeting > >> (19th- > >> > 21st), most likely to Green Island ("Lyudao"), "one of=20 > Asia's most=20 > >> > underrated scuba destination". Water temperature should be around > >> 22=B0C, > >> > visibility is rumored to be beyond 70ft - and there's lots of=20 > >> > marine life to see, including "Big Mushroom", the world's oldest=20 > >> > known coral with an estimated age of over 1200 years ... > >> > > >> > Anybody interested in joining? > >> > > >> > Alex > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > 82attendees mailing list > >> > 82attendees@ietf.org > >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 82attendees mailing list > >> 82attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > >_______________________________________________ > >82attendees mailing list > >82attendees@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > = From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Sun Nov 6 16:52:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642FB21F8562 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 16:52:21 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.185 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_40=-0.185, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LCP5RtAddtI4 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 16:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA98A21F84F9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 16:52:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1320627140; x=1352163140; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:content-type:x-random-sig-tag; z=Message-Id:=20 |In-Reply-To:=20<4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> |References:=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20=20<4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> |X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS=20X|Date:=20Sun,=206 =20Nov=202011=2016:52:17=20-0700|To:=20Simon=20Perreault =20,=20<82attendees@ietf.org >|From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20 |Subject:=20Re:=20[82attendees]=20Electrical=20plug/outle t|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii"=20 =3B=20format=3D"flowed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28; bh=+6AAW85zRUvpqbZJwqXwz4uYUllJGImwtUdfUZgmcE0=; b=y0hIGB8R2vVv+kknUGKglFgbpOarehabhTIn5jPAJRsM80zzkcOF4VTR 3ULor1ITSgMt/8y3ITCAoWKSKHpKz9Ov2n1jpTWV+d4lkPVi1dboqIm8e PnjvXLpmOEeRFxEJL3mS8WKW0vmAVM17AG5LxchfvtJqbVFZ5lq3WhGtj 4=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6522"; a="135263665" Received: from ironmsg04-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.19]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2011 16:52:18 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,464,1315206000"; d="scan'208";a="106064607" Received: from warlock.qualcomm.com ([129.46.50.49]) by Ironmsg04-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 06 Nov 2011 16:52:18 -0800 Received: from loud.pensive.org (myvpn-l-442.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.129.186]) by warlock.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id pA70qH4h006249; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 16:52:18 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 16:52:17 -0700 To: Simon Perreault , <82attendees@ietf.org> From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 00:52:21 -0000 I have to speak up to defend the question on taxis taking credit cards, because a large percentage of participants are likely to take a taxi, and taxi acceptance of credit cards varies widely (in the U.S., it varies from one city to another). At 5:19 PM -0400 11/1/11, Simon Perreault wrote: > On 2011-11-01 09:46, George, Wes wrote: >> [WEG] Related - is there already a document that has a list of the >> minimum information that the host is recommended (required?) to >> provide > > Just for laughs... ;) Here's a sample from last time: > > - Kayak spots (both sea and river please) > - Scuba diving (including places for renting equipment) > - How to rent a bicycle > - Where are the fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party? > - How to go from anywhere to anywhere using the bus > - Places to go hiking (with an evaluation of danger please) > - Restaurants (not just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy too) > - Please organize a soccer BoF > - Where to buy electronic equipment > - Can we go through customs with electronics in our luggage? > - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a tip? > - Where can I buy literature? > - How to go on whale watching cruises (substitute with local wildlife) > - Please suggest running trails > - Where to eat breakfast apart from the main hotel > - What are the funny characters at the bottom of restaurant receipts? > > (Not trying to make fun of anyone. I had a lot of fun myself > playing travel agency! :) > > Simon > -- > NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Local High School Dropouts Cut in Half --Newspaper headline From louk.chi@gmail.com Sun Nov 6 20:28:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A3C21F849D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 20:28:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.398 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.398 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_34=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_43=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id reQB3ADfkuip for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 20:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA8621F849C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 20:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by gye5 with SMTP id 5so5683360gye.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:28:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=nIa6qIg6sQesePB4cIS3V1NuyMb2sdQYFmoGzaO2u0o=; b=bdcU9JHkHGQb2ZSh1iSzPkgif385gY4r21mc1sXeZmePZb7bCQ+EBIGRx6i40L1ERq 9dyBBiBwLIeCKZ6zwIs2FPstx/+ahdX+Lo2sCoagcNZm3+Jmzx9zPn9bbJpfKC1Hq7x5 TgJfpDh14anCyxovFkoo8dDcbSA5xIwKWCELQ= Received: by 10.50.207.99 with SMTP id lv3mr40427432igc.16.1320640111306; Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:28:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from loukPCx201i (twaren2-094.niu.edu.tw. [203.145.202.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b8sm33109785pba.16.2011.11.06.20.28.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:28:29 -0800 (PST) From: "louk" To: "'Randall Gellens'" , "'Simon Perreault'" , <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:28:23 +0800 Message-ID: <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0072_01CC9D48.C101D270" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQG9QFZ4Xem/o9J5qvpB4csmG+OPjQKHNmOFATYiXnMBk09O4pWU/1Tw Content-Language: zh-tw Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 04:28:33 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01CC9D48.C101D270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all =20 Q: Does the taxis take credit cards or not ? A: NO! Most of the taxis in Taiwan does not take the credit cards. =20 Q: Do they expect a tip? A: NO, only tip for five star hotel. (But ..some Restaurants will add = 10% for the tip ) =20 Q: Does the Mcdonalds and KFC take credit cards or not ? A: NO! They do not take the credit cards in Taiwan =20 ------ =20 > - Kayak spots (both sea and river please) > - Scuba diving (including places for renting equipment) =3D> you can call me, I love Scuba diving. =20 > - How to rent a bicycle =3D> You are lucky, You can rent a bicyle with YuYu Card(MRT card) in = taipei 101=20 It is free for first 30 mins =20 > - Where are the fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party? I am sorry, you should be Taiwan in the summer. =20 > - How to go from anywhere to anywhere using the bus =20 You can use the google map, It provide the BUS guide function. =20 =20 > - Places to go hiking (with an evaluation of danger please) OOPs, you can try Taroko. =20 =20 > - Restaurants (not just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy too) =20 Sure, you can find the high-end gastronomy in Taipei 101 (do not forget = to take your credit card, it is expensive.) TRY the night-market ! If you miss the night-market, you will not miss = Taiwan. :P =20 =20 > - Please organize a soccer BoF SORRY, the favorite game is basketball or baseball. Last week, MLB players visit Taiwan with five wonderful games. OOPs, you afraid you miss the games. Take your Time Machine, I know you = have one. =20 > - Where to buy electronic equipment DO NOT MISS Guanghua Computer Market. =20 =20 > - Can we go through customs with electronics in our luggage? > - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a tip? > - Where can I buy literature? =20 You can ask Siri for the detail information .=20 =20 Or join the ISOC , I know some guy(Like me, ISOC Taipei) would like to = answer the question for ISOC friends.=20 =20 :P =20 =20 always ------------------------------------------------- Ting-Yun Chi (=E7=B4=80=E5=BB=B7=E9=81=8B)=20 R&D Division, National IPv6 Deployment & Development Program Email: louk@louk.dyndns.org =20 Dependable Distributed System and Networks Lab.=20 Department of Electrical Engineering National Taiwan University, Taipei, = Taiwan, R.O.C.=20 Mobile: +886-933994032 LAB TEL: +886-2-3366-3700 #6611 =20 Ask not what the team can do for you, ask what you can do for the team. =20 -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Randall Gellens Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:52 AM To: Simon Perreault; 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet =20 I have to speak up to defend the question on taxis taking credit cards, = because a large percentage of participants are likely to take a taxi, = and taxi acceptance of credit cards varies widely (in the U.S., it = varies from one city to another). =20 =20 At 5:19 PM -0400 11/1/11, Simon Perreault wrote: =20 > On 2011-11-01 09:46, George, Wes wrote: >> [WEG] Related - is there already a document that has a list of the=20 >> minimum information that the host is recommended (required?) to=20 >> provide >=20 > Just for laughs... ;) Here's a sample from last time: >=20 > - Kayak spots (both sea and river please) > - Scuba diving (including places for renting equipment) > - How to rent a bicycle > - Where are the fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party? > - How to go from anywhere to anywhere using the bus > - Places to go hiking (with an evaluation of danger please) > - Restaurants (not just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy too) > - Please organize a soccer BoF > - Where to buy electronic equipment > - Can we go through customs with electronics in our luggage? > - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a tip? > - Where can I buy literature? > - How to go on whale watching cruises (substitute with local=20 > wildlife) > - Please suggest running trails > - Where to eat breakfast apart from the main hotel > - What are the funny characters at the bottom of restaurant receipts? >=20 > (Not trying to make fun of anyone. I had a lot of fun myself playing=20 > travel agency! :) >=20 > Simon > -- > NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> = http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > STUN/TURN server --> = http://numb.viagenie.ca > vCard 4.0 --> = http://www.vcarddav.org > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > = https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees =20 =20 -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Local High School = Dropouts Cut in Half --Newspaper headline = _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org = https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees ------=_NextPart_000_0072_01CC9D48.C101D270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear = all

 

Q: Does the taxis take credit cards or not = ?

A: NO! = Most of the taxis in Taiwan does not take the credit = cards.

 

Q: Do they expect a tip?

A: NO, only tip for five star = hotel. (But ..some Restaurants will add 10% for the tip = )

 

Q: Does the Mcdonalds and KFC = take credit cards or not ?

A: NO! They do not take the = credit cards in Taiwan

 

------

 

>=C2=A0 - Kayak spots = (both sea and river please)

>=C2=A0 - Scuba diving = (including places for renting equipment)

=3D> you can call me, I = love Scuba diving.

 

>=C2=A0 - How to rent a = bicycle

=3D> You are lucky, You can rent a bicyle with YuYu = Card(MRT card) =C2=A0in taipei 101

It is free for first 30 = mins

 

>=C2=A0 - Where are the = fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party?

I am sorry, you should be = Taiwan in the summer.

 

>=C2=A0 - How to go from = anywhere to anywhere using the bus

 

You can use the google map, = It provide the BUS guide function.

 

 

>=C2=A0 - Places to go = hiking (with an evaluation of danger please)

OOPs, you can try = Taroko.

 

 

>=C2=A0 - Restaurants (not = just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy = too)

 

Sure, you can find the = high-end gastronomy in Taipei 101 (do not forget to take your credit = card, it is expensive.)

TRY the night-market ! If you = miss the night-market, you will not miss Taiwan. = :P

 

 

>=C2=A0 - Please organize = a soccer BoF

SORRY, the favorite game is basketball or = baseball.

Last week, MLB players visit Taiwan with five wonderful = games.

OOPs, you afraid you miss the games. Take your Time = Machine, I know you have one.

 

>=C2=A0 - Where to buy = electronic equipment

DO NOT MISS Guanghua Computer = Market.

 

 

>=C2=A0 - Can we go = through customs with electronics in our = luggage?

>=C2=A0 - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a = tip?

>=C2=A0 - Where can I buy <local language> = literature?

 

You can ask Siri for the detail information .

 

Or join the ISOC , I know some guy(Like me, ISOC Taipei) would like to = answer the question for ISOC friends. =

 

:P

 

 

always

-------------------------------------------------=

Ting-Yun = Chi (=E7=B4= =80=E5=BB=B7=E9=81=8B) =

R&D = Division, National IPv6 Deployment & Development = Program

Email: louk@louk.dyndns.org

 

Dependable Distributed System = and Networks Lab.

Department of Electrical Engineering National Taiwan = University, Taipei, Taiwan, R.O.C.

Mobile: = +886-933994032

LAB TEL: +886-2-3366-3700 #6611

 

Ask not what the team can do for = you, ask what you can do for the team.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: = 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Randall Gellens
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:52 = AM
To: Simon Perreault; 82attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: = [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet

 

I have to speak up to defend the = question on taxis taking credit cards, because a large percentage of = participants are likely to take a taxi, and taxi acceptance of credit = cards varies widely (in the U.S., it varies from one city to = another).

 

 

At 5:19 PM -0400 11/1/11, Simon Perreault = wrote:

 

>=C2=A0 On 2011-11-01 09:46, George, Wes = wrote:

>>=C2=A0 [WEG] Related - is there already a document = that has a list of the

>> minimum information = that the host is recommended (required?) to

>> = provide

> 

>=C2=A0 Just for laughs... ;) = Here's a sample from last time:

> 

>=C2=A0 - Kayak spots (both = sea and river please)

>=C2=A0 - Scuba diving (including places for renting = equipment)

>=C2=A0 - How to rent a bicycle

>=C2=A0 - Where are the = fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party?

>=C2=A0 - How to go from = anywhere to anywhere using the bus

>=C2=A0 - Places to go hiking = (with an evaluation of danger please)

>=C2=A0 - Restaurants (not = just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy too)

>=C2=A0 - Please organize a = soccer BoF

>=C2=A0 - Where to buy electronic = equipment

>=C2=A0 - Can we go through customs with electronics in = our luggage?

>=C2=A0 - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a = tip?

>=C2=A0 - Where can I buy <local language> = literature?

>=C2=A0 - How to go on whale watching cruises = (substitute with local

> = wildlife)

>=C2=A0 - Please suggest running = trails

>=C2=A0 - Where to eat breakfast apart from the main = hotel

>=C2=A0 - What are the funny characters at the bottom of = restaurant receipts?

> 

>=C2=A0 (Not trying to make = fun of anyone. I had a lot of fun myself playing =

> = travel agency! :)

> 

>=C2=A0 = Simon

>=C2=A0 --

>=C2=A0 NAT64/DNS64 = open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.c= a

>=C2=A0 STUN/TURN = server=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 --> http://numb.viagenie.ca

>=C2=A0 vCard = 4.0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org

>=C2=A0 = _______________________________________________

>=C2=A0 82attendees mailing = list

>=C2=A0 82attendees@ietf.org

>=C2=A0 https://www.ietf.org/mail= man/listinfo/82attendees

 

 

--

Randall = Gellens

Opinions are personal;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 facts are = suspect;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I speak for myself = only

-------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Local = High School Dropouts Cut in Half --Newspaper headline = _______________________________________________

82attendees mailing = list

82attendees@ietf.org

https://www.ietf.org/mail= man/listinfo/82attendees

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As I know, the only taxi company who takes credit card is TaiwanTaxi, which is also the largest taxi group in Taipei. Here is their information: http://www.taiwantaxi.com.tw/taiwantaxi/english_about.asp. -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randall Gellens Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:52 AM To: Simon Perreault; 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet I have to speak up to defend the question on taxis taking credit cards, because a large percentage of participants are likely to take a taxi, and taxi acceptance of credit cards varies widely (in the U.S., it varies from one city to another). At 5:19 PM -0400 11/1/11, Simon Perreault wrote: > On 2011-11-01 09:46, George, Wes wrote: >> [WEG] Related - is there already a document that has a list of the >> minimum information that the host is recommended (required?) to >> provide > > Just for laughs... ;) Here's a sample from last time: > > - Kayak spots (both sea and river please) > - Scuba diving (including places for renting equipment) > - How to rent a bicycle > - Where are the fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party? > - How to go from anywhere to anywhere using the bus > - Places to go hiking (with an evaluation of danger please) > - Restaurants (not just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy too) > - Please organize a soccer BoF > - Where to buy electronic equipment > - Can we go through customs with electronics in our luggage? > - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a tip? > - Where can I buy literature? > - How to go on whale watching cruises (substitute with local wildlife) > - Please suggest running trails > - Where to eat breakfast apart from the main hotel > - What are the funny characters at the bottom of restaurant receipts? > > (Not trying to make fun of anyone. I had a lot of fun myself > playing travel agency! :) > > Simon > -- > NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Local High School Dropouts Cut in Half --Newspaper headline _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Sun Nov 6 22:20:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D7D21F8484 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 22:20:45 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.663 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.663 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.478, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_HTML_ONLY=1.457, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id r9WoNSEGMEJZ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 22:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B775F21F847B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 22:20:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1320646844; x=1352182844; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:cc:content-type:x-random-sig-tag; z=Message-Id:=20 |In-Reply-To:=20<007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.co m>|References:=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20=09<4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> =0D=0A=20=0D=0A =20<007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com>|X-Mailer: =20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS=20X|Date:=20Sun,=206=20Nov=202 011=2022:20:37=20-0700|To:=20louk=20 |From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20 |Subject:=20Information=20on=20taxis=20(was=20"Re:=20[82a ttendees]=20Electrical=0D=0A=20plug/outlet")|Cc:=20"'Simo n=20Perreault'"=09,=20<82att endees@ietf.org>|Content-Type:=20text/html=3B=20charset =3D"us-ascii"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28; bh=7wc+uqUME6kdLBPdMlYleuRlhS2oZKW2RWJAQgZGIV0=; b=wb5+mNrQz1s2TnQKE5trQmxWUO0kGUkhZF2x/jy0aEnp8b54YwhIUItE i5qONYF4CNcKsUHIWY1jp1F5CV2dylh+IQ0Zz2/CcAm5hcjufV2HST51L CMIUFlcylHI28u4gsfvdYj/xDBh47Th7EIgfpTjatQgPs6X7DUYDCXvZk M=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6522"; a="132943730" Received: from ironmsg04-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.19]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 06 Nov 2011 22:20:43 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,467,1315206000"; d="scan'208,217";a="106218152" Received: from warlock.qualcomm.com ([129.46.50.49]) by Ironmsg04-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 06 Nov 2011 22:20:43 -0800 Received: from loud.pensive.org (myvpn-l-442.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.129.186]) by warlock.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id pA76KevC021087; Sun, 6 Nov 2011 22:20:41 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 22:20:37 -0700 To: louk From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: 'Simon Perreault' , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] Information on taxis (was "Re: Electrical plug/outlet") X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 06:20:45 -0000 Information on taxis (was "Re: [82attendees] Electrical pl
Thank you, this is very useful information!

At 12:28 PM +0800 11/7/11, louk wrote:

Dear all
 
Q: Does the taxis take credit cards or not ?
A: NO! Most of the taxis in Taiwan does not take the credit cards.
 
Q: Do they expect a tip?
A: NO, only tip for five star hotel. (But ..some Restaurants will add 10% for the tip )
 
Q: Does the Mcdonalds and KFC take credit cards or not ?
A: NO! They do not take the credit cards in Taiwan
 
--
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
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He who would travel happily must travel light.  --Antoine St. Exuperey
From warren@kumari.net Mon Nov 7 08:13:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06FF21F899D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 08:13:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zq4vTLG1vJ0r for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 08:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (vimes.kumari.net [198.186.192.250]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E6C21F8B62 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 08:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.21.1.177] (unknown [203.69.99.16]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 640301B40683 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:13:09 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:13:08 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <97ED235D-5B15-4954-BE29-1B2C9E83B972@kumari.net> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> To: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Re: [82attendees] Information on taxis (was "Re: Electrical plug/outlet") X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:13:14 -0000 On Nov 7, 2011, at 12:20 AM, Randall Gellens wrote: > Thank you, this is very useful information! Yup. And, if at all possible, avoid taxi number 343-A5=85 I've taken cabs all over the world and this is the first time I've = actually been scared. Driver was pleasant, but was all over the road, almost changed lanes = into other vehicles three times, twice almost causing the other vehicle = to hit the concrete barrier, etc. All the other drivers I saw were perfectly fine, just not this one=85. W >=20 > At 12:28 PM +0800 11/7/11, louk wrote: >=20 >> Dear all >> =20 >> Q: Does the taxis take credit cards or not ? >> A: NO! Most of the taxis in Taiwan does not take the credit cards. >> =20 >> Q: Do they expect a tip? >> A: NO, only tip for five star hotel. (But ..some Restaurants will add = 10% for the tip ) >> =20 >> Q: Does the Mcdonalds and KFC take credit cards or not ? >> A: NO! They do not take the credit cards in Taiwan > =20 > --=20 >=20 > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself = only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > He who would travel happily must travel light. --Antoine St. Exuperey > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu Mon Nov 7 09:31:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3149021F8B1C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:31:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.805 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.805 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.406, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_34=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_43=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id urcmM59kZyHw for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B2821F8B32 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:31:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uH521h0040Fqzac58HXC4s; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:31:12 +0000 Received: from Paul-Kyzivats-MacBook-Pro.local ([24.62.229.5]) by omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uHXB1h01F07duvL3UHXCxS; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:31:12 +0000 Message-ID: <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 12:31:27 -0500 From: Paul Kyzivat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:31:13 -0000 What preparation should non-Chinese speakers make for taxi travel, such as getting from airport to hotel? Is it necessary to have the destination address written in Chinese? Thanks, Paul On 11/6/11 11:28 PM, louk wrote: > Dear all > > Q: Does the taxis take credit cards or not ? > > A: NO! Most of the taxis in Taiwan does not take the credit cards. > > Q:/Do they expect a tip?/ > > /A: NO, only tip for five star hotel. (But ..some Restaurants will add > 10% for the tip )/ > > Q: Does the Mcdonalds and KFC take credit cards or not ? > > A: NO! They do not take the credit cards in Taiwan > > ------ > > /> - Kayak spots (both sea and river please)/ > > /> - Scuba diving (including places for renting equipment)/ > > /=> you can call me, I love Scuba diving./ > > // > > /> - How to rent a bicycle/ > > /=> You are lucky, You can rent a bicyle with YuYu Card(MRT card) in > taipei 101 / > > /It is free for first 30 mins/ > > // > > /> - Where are the fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party?/ > > /I am sorry, you should be Taiwan in the summer./ > > // > > /> - How to go from anywhere to anywhere using the bus/ > > // > > /You can use the google map, It provide the BUS guide function./ > > // > > // > > /> - Places to go hiking (with an evaluation of danger please)/ > > /OOPs, you can try Taroko./ > > // > > // > > /> - Restaurants (not just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy too)/ > > // > > /Sure, you can find the high-end gastronomy in Taipei 101 (do not forget > to take your credit card, it is expensive.)/ > > /TRY the night-market ! If you miss the night-market, you will not miss > Taiwan. :P/ > > // > > // > > /> - Please organize a soccer BoF/ > > /SORRY, the favorite game is basketball or baseball./ > > /Last week, MLB players visit Taiwan with five wonderful games./ > > /OOPs, you afraid you miss the games. *Take your Time Machine, I know > you have one.*/ > > // > > /> - Where to buy electronic equipment/ > > /DO NOT MISS Guanghua Computer Market./ > > // > > // > > /> - Can we go through customs with electronics in our luggage?/ > > /> - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a tip?/ > > /> - Where can I buy literature?/ > > *You can ask **Siri for the detail information . * > > ** > > *Or join the ISOC , I know some guy(Like me, ISOC Taipei) would like to > answer the question for ISOC friends. * > > :P > > always > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Ting-Yun Chi(紀廷運) > > R&D Division, National IPv6 Deployment & Development Program > > Email: louk@louk.dyndns.org > > Dependable Distributed System and Networks Lab. > > Department of Electrical Engineering National Taiwan University, Taipei, > Taiwan, R.O.C. > > Mobile: +886-933994032 > > LAB TEL: +886-2-3366-3700 #6611 > > Ask not what the team can do for you, ask what you can do for theteam. > > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Randall Gellens > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:52 AM > To: Simon Perreault; 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet > > I have to speak up to defend the question on taxis taking credit cards, > because a large percentage of participants are likely to take a taxi, > and taxi acceptance of credit cards varies widely (in the U.S., it > varies from one city to another). > > At 5:19 PM -0400 11/1/11, Simon Perreault wrote: > >> On 2011-11-01 09:46, George, Wes wrote: > >> > [WEG] Related - is there already a document that has a list of the > >> > minimum information that the host is recommended (required?) to > >> > provide > >> > >> Just for laughs... ;) Here's a sample from last time: > >> > >> - Kayak spots (both sea and river please) > >> - Scuba diving (including places for renting equipment) > >> - How to rent a bicycle > >> - Where are the fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party? > >> - How to go from anywhere to anywhere using the bus > >> - Places to go hiking (with an evaluation of danger please) > >> - Restaurants (not just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy too) > >> - Please organize a soccer BoF > >> - Where to buy electronic equipment > >> - Can we go through customs with electronics in our luggage? > >> - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a tip? > >> - Where can I buy literature? > >> - How to go on whale watching cruises (substitute with local > >> wildlife) > >> - Please suggest running trails > >> - Where to eat breakfast apart from the main hotel > >> - What are the funny characters at the bottom of restaurant receipts? > >> > >> (Not trying to make fun of anyone. I had a lot of fun myself playing > >> travel agency! :) > >> > >> Simon > >> -- > >> NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > >> STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > >> vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 82attendees mailing list > >> 82attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > -- > > Randall Gellens > > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Local High School > Dropouts Cut in Half --Newspaper headline > _______________________________________________ > > 82attendees mailing list > > 82attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From jakob.heitz@ericsson.com Mon Nov 7 09:53:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7D421F8B37 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:53:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.992 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.992 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.607, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u00EJHv9o8fX for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from imr3.ericy.com (imr3.ericy.com [198.24.6.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100C121F8AED for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) by imr3.ericy.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA7HrI08016355 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:53:31 -0600 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.52]) by eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) with mapi; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:53:18 -0500 From: Jakob Heitz To: Paul Kyzivat , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:53:17 -0500 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? Thread-Index: AcydcxwteXWFzXs3Ske4KC9TacmIgQAAtt0g Message-ID: <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D21391A448C6430@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:53:33 -0000 =1B$BBfKL7/z#BgHSE9=1B(B On Monday, November 07, 2011 9:31 AM, Paul Kyzivat <> wrote: > What preparation should non-Chinese speakers make for taxi travel, > such as getting from airport to hotel? Is it necessary to have the > destination address written in Chinese? --=20 Jakob Heitz.= From jakob.heitz@ericsson.com Mon Nov 7 09:55:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873561F0C44 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:55:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.059 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.059 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.540, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tPOahe3OwAAF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A321F0C42 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 09:55:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.32]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id pA7HtYcn029751; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:55:36 -0600 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.52]) by eusaamw0707.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.32]) with mapi; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:55:33 -0500 From: Jakob Heitz To: Jakob Heitz , Paul Kyzivat , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:55:32 -0500 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? Thread-Index: AcydcxwteXWFzXs3Ske4KC9TacmIgQAAtt0gAAAQ14A= Message-ID: <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D21391A448C6435@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 17:55:38 -0000 That means "Taipei Hyatt big Hotel" You can find it on their website http://taipei.grand.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp?language=3Dzh-Hant > =1B$BBfKL7/z#BgHSE9=1B(B >=20 > On Monday, November 07, 2011 9:31 AM, Paul Kyzivat <> wrote: >=20 >> What preparation should non-Chinese speakers make for taxi travel, >> such as getting from airport to hotel? Is it necessary to have the >> destination address written in Chinese? --=20 Jakob Heitz.= From moulchan@cisco.com Mon Nov 7 10:00:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0296F11E808C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:00:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A4Rh9qx0MT+U for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com [173.37.86.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C6711E808B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:00:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; 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Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:00:44 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:00:41 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D21391A448C6435@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] suggestions on hotel near the venue Thread-Index: AcydcxwteXWFzXs3Ske4KC9TacmIgQAAtt0gAAAQ14AAACvjIA== References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com><4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D21391A448C6435@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> From: "Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)" To: <82attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2011 18:00:44.0688 (UTC) FILETIME=[2BB56900:01CC9D77] Subject: Re: [82attendees] suggestions on hotel near the venue X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:00:46 -0000 Looks like the conference venue is sold out.=20 Any suggestions are reasonably priced hotels near (walking, ...) the venue.=20 Thanks Mouli From stpeter@stpeter.im Mon Nov 7 10:03:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 134EC21F8B18 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] suggestions on hotel near the venue X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:03:52 -0000 On 11/7/11 11:00 AM, Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) wrote: > > Looks like the conference venue is sold out. > Any suggestions are reasonably priced hotels near (walking, ...) the > venue. I'm staying at the AT Boutique Hotel (H/T: Dave Crocker) but it was almost sold out when I booked it 6+ weeks ago. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com Mon Nov 7 10:04:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D491F0C42 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:04:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.924 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.924 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.525, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_34=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_43=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xHBAZkdgkXmg for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:04:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA73F1F0C41 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:04:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id pA7I3fS0031524; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:04:14 -0600 Received: from EUSAACMS0715.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.18]) by eusaamw0711.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.178]) with mapi; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 13:04:12 -0500 From: Gregory Mirsky To: Paul Kyzivat , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 13:04:10 -0500 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? Thread-Index: AcydcxxTvC2NhjrUS8KMvjX5flyc0QABEjnQ Message-ID: References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:04:17 -0000 English was sufficient for me to get around by cab or public transportation= in Taipei/Taiwan. -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 9:31 AM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? What preparation should non-Chinese speakers make for taxi travel, such as = getting from airport to hotel? Is it necessary to have the destination addr= ess written in Chinese? Thanks, Paul On 11/6/11 11:28 PM, louk wrote: > Dear all > > Q: Does the taxis take credit cards or not ? > > A: NO! Most of the taxis in Taiwan does not take the credit cards. > > Q:/Do they expect a tip?/ > > /A: NO, only tip for five star hotel. (But ..some Restaurants will add=20 > 10% for the tip )/ > > Q: Does the Mcdonalds and KFC take credit cards or not ? > > A: NO! They do not take the credit cards in Taiwan > > ------ > > /> - Kayak spots (both sea and river please)/ > > /> - Scuba diving (including places for renting equipment)/ > > /=3D> you can call me, I love Scuba diving./ > > // > > /> - How to rent a bicycle/ > > /=3D> You are lucky, You can rent a bicyle with YuYu Card(MRT card) in=20 > taipei 101 / > > /It is free for first 30 mins/ > > // > > /> - Where are the fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party?/ > > /I am sorry, you should be Taiwan in the summer./ > > // > > /> - How to go from anywhere to anywhere using the bus/ > > // > > /You can use the google map, It provide the BUS guide function./ > > // > > // > > /> - Places to go hiking (with an evaluation of danger please)/ > > /OOPs, you can try Taroko./ > > // > > // > > /> - Restaurants (not just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy=20 > too)/ > > // > > /Sure, you can find the high-end gastronomy in Taipei 101 (do not=20 > forget to take your credit card, it is expensive.)/ > > /TRY the night-market ! If you miss the night-market, you will not=20 > miss Taiwan. :P/ > > // > > // > > /> - Please organize a soccer BoF/ > > /SORRY, the favorite game is basketball or baseball./ > > /Last week, MLB players visit Taiwan with five wonderful games./ > > /OOPs, you afraid you miss the games. *Take your Time Machine, I know=20 > you have one.*/ > > // > > /> - Where to buy electronic equipment/ > > /DO NOT MISS Guanghua Computer Market./ > > // > > // > > /> - Can we go through customs with electronics in our luggage?/ > > /> - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a tip?/ > > /> - Where can I buy literature?/ > > *You can ask **Siri for the detail information . * > > ** > > *Or join the ISOC , I know some guy(Like me, ISOC Taipei) would like=20 > to answer the question for ISOC friends. * > > :P > > always > > ------------------------------------------------- > > Ting-Yun Chi(=1B$B5*Dn1?=1B(B) > > R&D Division, National IPv6 Deployment & Development Program > > Email: louk@louk.dyndns.org > > Dependable Distributed System and Networks Lab. > > Department of Electrical Engineering National Taiwan University,=20 > Taipei, Taiwan, R.O.C. > > Mobile: +886-933994032 > > LAB TEL: +886-2-3366-3700 #6611 > > Ask not what the team can do for you, ask what you can do for theteam. > > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Randall Gellens > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:52 AM > To: Simon Perreault; 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Electrical plug/outlet > > I have to speak up to defend the question on taxis taking credit=20 > cards, because a large percentage of participants are likely to take a=20 > taxi, and taxi acceptance of credit cards varies widely (in the U.S.,=20 > it varies from one city to another). > > At 5:19 PM -0400 11/1/11, Simon Perreault wrote: > >> On 2011-11-01 09:46, George, Wes wrote: > >> > [WEG] Related - is there already a document that has a list of the > >> > minimum information that the host is recommended (required?) to > >> > provide > >> > >> Just for laughs... ;) Here's a sample from last time: > >> > >> - Kayak spots (both sea and river please) > >> - Scuba diving (including places for renting equipment) > >> - How to rent a bicycle > >> - Where are the fireworks? circus? beach volleyball party? > >> - How to go from anywhere to anywhere using the bus > >> - Places to go hiking (with an evaluation of danger please) > >> - Restaurants (not just fast food, we want high-end gastronomy too) > >> - Please organize a soccer BoF > >> - Where to buy electronic equipment > >> - Can we go through customs with electronics in our luggage? > >> - Do taxis take credit cards? Do they expect a tip? > >> - Where can I buy literature? > >> - How to go on whale watching cruises (substitute with local > >> wildlife) > >> - Please suggest running trails > >> - Where to eat breakfast apart from the main hotel > >> - What are the funny characters at the bottom of restaurant receipts? > >> > >> (Not trying to make fun of anyone. I had a lot of fun myself=20 >> playing > >> travel agency! :) > >> > >> Simon > >> -- > >> NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca > >> STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca > >> vCard 4.0 --> http://www.vcarddav.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 82attendees mailing list > >> 82attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > -- > > Randall Gellens > > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Local High=20 > School Dropouts Cut in Half --Newspaper headline=20 > _______________________________________________ > > 82attendees mailing list > > 82attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From louk.chi@gmail.com Mon Nov 7 10:31:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672C311E808E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:31:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.601, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zzhc+tLdwoM3 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f50.google.com (mail-pz0-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08EA11E8088 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk4 with SMTP id 4so6882238pzk.9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 10:31:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=OW3EQbQ/AVerygSCuseluJyr9C8ZtzSi2F3cSKVsWWg=; b=ZBi6P1Vh/BFhdwj1YNStZ1IfyyzuLWyeyKlpxkUjCTKwF1YF6HvLVFO9aIUI6eUpPI Z0x/TSvJ4uFlL3mfIhL6COLqdlScZxqhKaDnU993LZHYua3mhOMGdUH9pj3a3GbS9bKz vp/gFnMDkasVJCtlkXD54gt0pHGsOF7bR3pI8= Received: by 10.68.10.39 with SMTP id f7mr1123057pbb.107.1320690675293; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 10:31:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from louk610PC (twaren2-093.niu.edu.tw. [203.145.202.93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b4sm25847330pbc.19.2011.11.07.10.31.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Nov 2011 10:31:13 -0800 (PST) From: "louk" To: "'Mouli Chandramouli \(moulchan\)'" , <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com><4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D21391A448C6435@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 02:31:09 +0800 Message-ID: <00e201cc9d7b$6dafd580$490f8080$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQG9QFZ4Xem/o9J5qvpB4csmG+OPjQKHNmOFATYiXnMBk09O4gHopECfATQv6dABBxzTfAGEYsKilWinyKA= Content-Language: zh-tw Subject: Re: [82attendees] suggestions on hotel near the venue X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:31:17 -0000 Well.. If you company will pay for hotel TRY W Taipei (around 400USD) http://www.hotels.com/hotel/details.html?pa=3D4&pn=3D1&ps=3D4&tab=3Ddescr= iption&destinationId=3D1366745&hotelId=3D369485&arrivalDate=3D11-16-11&de= partureDate=3D11-17-11&rooms[0].numberOfAdults=3D2&roomno=3D1&validate=3D= false&previousDateful=3Dfalse&reviewOrder=3Ddate_newest_first#description= Le Meridien Taipei (400USD) http://www.hotels.com/hotel/details.html?pa=3D3&pn=3D1&ps=3D3&tab=3Ddescr= iption&destinationId=3D1366745&hotelId=3D358982&arrivalDate=3D11-16-11&de= partureDate=3D11-17-11&rooms[0].numberOfAdults=3D2&roomno=3D1&validate=3D= false&previousDateful=3Dfalse&reviewOrder=3Ddate_newest_first#description= If you can speak Chinese. You can try (Apartment 50USD) http://www.hotels.com/hotel/details.html?pa=3D6&pn=3D1&ps=3D6&tab=3Ddescr= iption&destinationId=3D1366745&hotelId=3D394807&arrivalDate=3D11-16-11&de= partureDate=3D11-17-11&rooms[0].numberOfAdults=3D2&roomno=3D1&validate=3D= false&previousDateful=3Dfalse&reviewOrder=3Ddate_newest_first#description= for the cheap and near ... (USD90) http://www.agoda.com/asia/taiwan/taipei/charming_city_hotel_taipei.html?c= id=3D1410012&urltogo=3D/asia/taiwan/taipei/charming_city_hotel_taipei.htm= l however, it is a small and old one.. Take the TAXI is very cheap in Taiwan, maybe you can stay away from the = venue. (USD 3 for 2.5KM ) http://www.hotels.com/hotel/details.html?pa=3D22&pn=3D1&ps=3D22&tab=3Ddes= cription&destinationId=3D1366745&hotelId=3D390002&arrivalDate=3D11-16-11&= departureDate=3D11-17-11&rooms[0].numberOfAdults=3D2&roomno=3D1&validate=3D= false&previousDateful=3Dfalse&reviewOrder=3Ddate_newest_first#description= Brother hotel is a nice one. always Ting-Yun Chi (=E7=B4=80=E5=BB=B7=E9=81=8B)=20 Project Conductor , Translation Technology div. of Taiwan IPv6 Program.=20 Room 611, Bldg. No. 3, National Taiwan University No. 1,Sec 4, Roosevelt Rd. , Taipei 10617 , Taiwan R.O.C. TEL: +886-2-33663366 ext 75104 Mobile: +886-933994032 FAX: +886-2-26823971 Email: louk@rd.ipv6.org.tw -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 2:01 AM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] suggestions on hotel near the venue Looks like the conference venue is sold out.=20 Any suggestions are reasonably priced hotels near (walking, ...) the = venue.=20 Thanks Mouli _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Mon Nov 7 10:44:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD3611E8085 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:44:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.661 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.661 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.921, BAYES_20=-0.74, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t7Ord2JUSS7U for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6FB11E8081 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.20.30.100] (50-0-66-4.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [50.0.66.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA7IiQpd086533 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:44:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:44:26 -0800 Message-Id: <696E8C82-AC5E-496A-9408-A586B03E9A03@vpnc.org> To: 82attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:44:28 -0000 Greetings again. For those of us staying in the Shangri-La and the = Howard: - Are taxis easy to find a odd hours? I know I will be going early some = mornings, but I also know I will be going from TICC to my hotel after = 2200 some nights. If they are not easy to find, what is the trick to = finding them? - Is there a problem with taking short trips, which these look like? --Paul Hoffman From dhc@dcrocker.net Mon Nov 7 11:04:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D95411E809C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:04:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id svAtBBHcMM4r for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D21E11E808E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (adsl-67-127-55-53.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net [67.127.55.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA7J4KHp012077 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:04:27 -0800 Message-ID: <4EB82BAB.5060306@dcrocker.net> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:04:11 -0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Saint-Andre References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com><4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D21391A448C6435@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> <4EB81D81.5050409@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4EB81D81.5050409@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Mon, 07 Nov 2011 11:04:28 -0800 (PST) Cc: "Mouli Chandramouli \(moulchan\)" , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] suggestions on hotel near the venue X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 19:04:30 -0000 On 11/7/2011 10:03 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > I'm staying at the AT Boutique Hotel (H/T: Dave Crocker) but it was > almost sold out when I booked it 6+ weeks ago. For those of you staying at the AT, be sure to tell them that I sent you. It would be interesting to see how they react... (I'm thinking of asking for a commision...) It's kitty-corner from the TICC. If you continue the diagonal line, it extends to the Hyatt... d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From ynir@checkpoint.com Mon Nov 7 11:15:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF9A21F8B6C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:15:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.257 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.257 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.072, BAYES_40=-0.185, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v02ewQbP-k3d for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from michael.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E4921F8B66 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:15:41 -0800 (PST) X-CheckPoint: {4EB82DEA-10004-1B221DC2-FFFF} Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.26]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA7JFakP030299; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:15:36 +0200 Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) by il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) with mapi; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:15:35 +0200 From: Yoav Nir To: "Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:15:34 +0200 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] suggestions on hotel near the venue Thread-Index: AcydgZ/WQ3Ex4odjSYW19UMqzrTWtQ== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 acceptlanguage: en-US x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: scan successful x-kse-antivirus-info: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] suggestions on hotel near the venue X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 19:15:42 -0000 On 11/7/11 8:00 PM, "Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)" wrote: > >Looks like the conference venue is sold out. >Any suggestions are reasonably priced hotels near (walking, ...) the >venue.=20 The Tango hotel is about 20-30 minutes walk. Whether this counts as walking distance depends on the weather and on the walker. People who have been there say it's nice. From Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com Mon Nov 7 12:08:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6875011E80B0 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:08:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x4BheKJ7Sb+Q for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:08:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-sa01.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.1.47]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D0C11E8093 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:08:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (vaebh106.europe.nokia.com [10.160.244.32]) by mgw-sa01.nokia.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pA7K8mgO020809; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:08:48 +0200 Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.21]) by vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:08:43 +0200 Received: from 008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com ([169.254.6.167]) by 008-AM1MMR1-012.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.21]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.002; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:08:42 +0100 From: To: , <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels Thread-Index: AQHMnX1NP4AD+trVtkuyqijJfyk9eJWh0y2w Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 20:08:41 +0000 Message-ID: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476158633@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: <696E8C82-AC5E-496A-9408-A586B03E9A03@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <696E8C82-AC5E-496A-9408-A586B03E9A03@vpnc.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [63.133.138.150] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2011 20:08:43.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[0CA9B270:01CC9D89] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 20:08:50 -0000 Taxis are waiting in front of the hotels most of the time. In the mornings = though there is a queue for taxis, it took me 5-10 min to get a taxi. Short trips are not an issue. The starting price is NT$70, which includes o= ne mile or so. The trip between Shangri-la and Hyatt costs NT$90 to NT$110,= depending on traffic, and took 5-15 min. Same applies between Howard and H= yatt. -gabor -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of ext Paul Hoffman Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:44 AM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels Greetings again. For those of us staying in the Shangri-La and the Howard: - Are taxis easy to find a odd hours? I know I will be going early some mor= nings, but I also know I will be going from TICC to my hotel after 2200 som= e nights. If they are not easy to find, what is the trick to finding them? - Is there a problem with taking short trips, which these look like? --Paul Hoffman _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From linda.dunbar@huawei.com Mon Nov 7 14:13:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A0D11E80B4 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 14:13:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.385 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.385 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.215, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v3OoCHDZvCew for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 14:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from usaga02-in.huawei.com (usaga02-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF34911E80AF for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 14:13:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by usaga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LUB0004H9JDZP@usaga02-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:09:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfweml201-edg.china.huawei.com ([172.18.4.104]) by usaga02-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTPS id <0LUB00ME99JDD6@usaga02-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:09:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from DFWEML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.151) by dfweml201-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.9.107) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.270.1; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:09:11 -0800 Received: from DFWEML506-MBX.china.huawei.com ([10.124.31.111]) by dfweml403-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.151]) with mapi id 14.01.0270.001; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:09:07 -0800 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:09:06 +0000 From: Linda Dunbar In-reply-to: X-Originating-IP: [10.192.11.155] To: Gregory Mirsky , Paul Kyzivat , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Message-id: <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120BBA3C@dfweml506-mbx> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en-US Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Thread-topic: easy way to get around in Taipei if you don't speak Chinese Thread-index: AQHMnZnec4xZDeAR3UKKD23xlXeMoQ== X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: A5P6 B3Ac DMq4 Gy26 IJN3 IWBS VgrP ZVC5 ad7G dT8P dgOL euvN hDDy iJrA ibBc irzG; 3; OAAyAGEAdAB0AGUAbgBkAGUAZQBzAEAAaQBlAHQAZgAuAG8AcgBnADsAZwByAGUAZwBvAHIAeQAuAG0AaQByAHMAawB5AEAAZQByAGkAYwBzAHMAbwBuAC4AYwBvAG0AOwBwAGsAeQB6AGkAdgBhAHQAQABhAGwAdQBtAC4AbQBpAHQALgBlAGQAdQA=; Sosha1_v1; 7; {54A3A4BC-416C-4B7E-B72B-4CF49AE10B05}; bABpAG4AZABhAC4AZAB1AG4AYgBhAHIAQABoAHUAYQB3AGUAaQAuAGMAbwBtAA==; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:08:59 GMT; ZQBhAHMAeQAgAHcAYQB5ACAAdABvACAAZwBlAHQAIABhAHIAbwB1AG4AZAAgAGkAbgAgAFQAYQBpAHAAZQBpACAAaQBmACAAeQBvAHUAIABkAG8AbgAnAHQAIABzAHAAZQBhAGsAIABDAGgAaQBuAGUAcwBlAA== x-cr-puzzleid: {54A3A4BC-416C-4B7E-B72B-4CF49AE10B05} References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:55:26 -0800 Subject: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don't speak Chinese X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:13:39 -0000 If you have a smart phone, use Google translate. It even has voice recognition. So you just need to say "where is the taxi stand", it translates immediately to Chinese both in words and sound. I wish that someone can make a small device doing this job which doesn't need internet connection. Then traveling in foreign countries becomes really easy. Linda From marshall.eubanks@gmail.com Mon Nov 7 16:26:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773F621F8591 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 16:26:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.446 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.446 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.153, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zMhrIbV65F+Y for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 16:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E679021F84C9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 16:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by qadc10 with SMTP id c10so5056224qad.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:26:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rP3/Js7CjWztL+KrxjYrikYuSF76hH5Eq/oJWAkGZOY=; b=faV3Gz97nDhsgVE6BKuC4Dj7j2eWm18M+0vVoM7FpU64MhO1NWjTT2ntZNvU+rVF9I 5Ltu81m/icA11LI6isDDvTZbgWTKOPJNLJFKNCVAHsQwPNRI/Yob2UPyt4C2zQ9j9ZXC GTGoV+2UgVGfl3Jd3XArh4jeoZTH1FwQmUjQo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.50.8 with SMTP id y8mr9679026obn.79.1320711985346; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.14.65 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 16:26:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:26:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: Marshall Eubanks To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [82attendees] Social ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 00:26:26 -0000 If anyone has a social ticket available, I would be interested. Regards Marshall From leaf.y.yeh@huawei.com Mon Nov 7 17:48:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7715811E8073 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:48:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E7Bt3ic88ILT for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga01-in.huawei.com (szxga01-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.64]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9411F0C4D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga05-in [172.24.2.49]) by szxga05-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LUB009D9JO7SJ@szxga05-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:48:08 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxrg01-dlp.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga05-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LUB00CDSJO7JE@szxga05-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:48:07 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxeml208-edg.china.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id AEW94802; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:48:05 +0800 Received: from SZXEML406-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.93) by szxeml208-edg.china.huawei.com (172.24.2.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.270.1; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:48:00 +0800 Received: from SZXEML510-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.62]) by szxeml406-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.93]) with mapi id 14.01.0270.001; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:47:57 +0800 Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 01:47:56 +0000 From: Leaf yeh In-reply-to: X-Originating-IP: [10.70.39.98] To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-language: zh-CN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Thread-topic: [82attendees] Social ticket Thread-index: AQHMna0TbuL3VzQIgkCBW9qiceCPuJWiNMGA X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected References: Subject: Re: [82attendees] Social ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 01:48:12 -0000 If possible, I also want one. Best Regards, Leaf -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:26 AM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] Social ticket If anyone has a social ticket available, I would be interested. Regards Marshall _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From ajs@anvilwalrusden.com Mon Nov 7 19:16:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C88E11E80DA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:16:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.536 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.536 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xlTIgp7Zj3Mz for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.yitter.info (mail.yitter.info [208.86.224.201]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700D511E80D8 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 19:16:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from shinkuro.com (69-196-144-227.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.144.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B99B91ECB41D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 03:16:05 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:16:15 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: 82attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20111108031615.GU73147@shinkuro.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [82attendees] Social ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:16:19 -0000 I'd also like one. I added a section to the wiki to co-ordinate this in the vain hope that it would be a good idea. http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/82socialtix. Note that I did not add the two people who already posted, because I didn't know whether their request was resolved. Best, A On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 01:47:56AM +0000, Leaf yeh wrote: > If possible, I also want one. > > > Best Regards, > Leaf > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:26 AM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Social ticket > > If anyone has a social ticket available, I would be interested. > > Regards > Marshall > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com From mmcbride7@gmail.com Mon Nov 7 21:29:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457BA11E80FD for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:29:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GICGUsbXpxH1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:29:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E2111E80F5 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:29:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so64053eyg.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 21:29:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3JtClk4080eiDod0Z6vyiDLCCoY4j6jsnFtIgdmlKbE=; b=jM623cVk85wZMVEsH9meSXiZQsygaJmqbuntfjY+2Vh+AAC8JeaeYPyqIVpPH1CHTm H62e3tKX2D7NFUlrDFZIBFyYLoVy6njmM/zHzJqiQqtSzmCW3azePfRaCNnZyuY0lXtF hWpctSiUgAdfySsKEf790lVGcITHDIcv0vwgI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.14.197 with SMTP id h5mr2707757eba.146.1320730140953; Mon, 07 Nov 2011 21:29:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.33.69 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:29:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476158633@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: <696E8C82-AC5E-496A-9408-A586B03E9A03@vpnc.org> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476158633@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 21:29:00 -0800 Message-ID: From: Mike McBride To: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: paul.hoffman@vpnc.org, 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 05:29:04 -0000 Anyone know about walking in that area? Unless its pounding rain, I'm planning on going real cheap and walking between Howard and Hyatt. If anyone wants a walking pal, please ping me. mike On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:08 PM, wrote: > Taxis are waiting in front of the hotels most of the time. In the mornings though there is a queue for taxis, it took me 5-10 min to get a taxi. > Short trips are not an issue. The starting price is NT$70, which includes one mile or so. The trip between Shangri-la and Hyatt costs NT$90 to NT$110, depending on traffic, and took 5-15 min. Same applies between Howard and Hyatt. > -gabor > > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Paul Hoffman > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:44 AM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels > > Greetings again. For those of us staying in the Shangri-La and the Howard: > > - Are taxis easy to find a odd hours? I know I will be going early some mornings, but I also know I will be going from TICC to my hotel after 2200 some nights. If they are not easy to find, what is the trick to finding them? > > - Is there a problem with taking short trips, which these look like? > > --Paul Hoffman > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From coverdale@sympatico.ca Tue Nov 8 01:42:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8D521F8CCE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 01:42:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vOlEtJuPTRkT for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 01:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail8.itu.ch (mail8.itu.ch [156.106.192.38]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C70D21F8CCF for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 01:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from PaulNewPC ([156.106.228.4]) by mail8.itu.ch (8.13.8/8.14.4) with SMTP id pA89g3AC013560 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:42:05 +0100 From: "Paul Coverdale" To: <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <696E8C82-AC5E-496A-9408-A586B03E9A03@vpnc.org> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476158633@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:42:02 +0100 Message-ID: <003001cc9dfa$acaebf60$060c3e20$@ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acyd13+H1HZX9JN5S0+vhD3dcZTLnQAIl8OA Content-Language: en-us X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.9 (mail8.itu.ch [156.106.192.38]); Tue, 08 Nov 2011 10:42:05 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:42:11 -0000 Apologies if this has already been answered, but what are the public transportation options for getting from TPE to Shangri-La's Far Eastern Plaza Hotel? ...Paul >-----Original Message----- >From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >On Behalf Of Mike McBride >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 6:29 AM >To: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com >Cc: paul.hoffman@vpnc.org; 82attendees@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels > >Anyone know about walking in that area? Unless its pounding rain, I'm >planning on going real cheap and walking between Howard and Hyatt. If >anyone wants a walking pal, please ping me. > >mike > >On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:08 PM, wrote: >> Taxis are waiting in front of the hotels most of the time. In the >mornings though there is a queue for taxis, it took me 5-10 min to get a >taxi. >> Short trips are not an issue. The starting price is NT$70, which >includes one mile or so. The trip between Shangri-la and Hyatt costs >NT$90 to NT$110, depending on traffic, and took 5-15 min. Same applies >between Howard and Hyatt. >> -gabor >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- >bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Paul Hoffman >> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:44 AM >> To: 82attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels >> >> Greetings again. For those of us staying in the Shangri-La and the >Howard: >> >> - Are taxis easy to find a odd hours? I know I will be going early >some mornings, but I also know I will be going from TICC to my hotel >after 2200 some nights. If they are not easy to find, what is the trick >to finding them? >> >> - Is there a problem with taking short trips, which these look like? >> >> --Paul Hoffman >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >> >_______________________________________________ >82attendees mailing list >82attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From olaf@NLnetLabs.nl Tue Nov 8 02:28:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0349521F8C8D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 02:28:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.342 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.342 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.257, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BDSaqNScea+n for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 02:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from open.nlnetlabs.nl (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C653E21F8C8C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 02:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-83.nlnetlabs.nl (dhcp-83.nlnetlabs.nl [213.154.224.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by open.nlnetlabs.nl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA8ASUkC076910 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olaf@NLnetLabs.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_59C80E7A-6E62-43C6-978A-CF9506E9A224"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Olaf Kolkman In-Reply-To: <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D21391A448C6435@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:28:29 +0100 Message-Id: <188D7750-B58A-4036-8C96-85988E5FEE43@NLnetLabs.nl> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D21391A448C6435@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> To: Jakob Heitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (open.nlnetlabs.nl [213.154.224.1]); Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:28:32 +0100 (CET) Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Paul Kyzivat Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 10:28:38 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_59C80E7A-6E62-43C6-978A-CF9506E9A224 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 7, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Jakob Heitz wrote: > That means "Taipei Hyatt big Hotel" > You can find it on their website > http://taipei.grand.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp?language=zh-Hant > For your convenience: http://www.secret-wg.org/taxi-card.pdf Also added to wiki --Olaf ________________________________________________________ Olaf M. 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charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: Acyd13+H1HZX9JN5S0+vhD3dcZTLnQAIl8OAAAMRqrA= Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pA8BH3gL093112 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:17:16 -0000 If your TPE means Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport, you can also take Bus 2060 (East Line) as discussed before. http://www.airbus.com.tw/userfiles/images/airportbus/airport_e.jpg The bus stops at the Howard Hotel, the Shangri-La's Far Eastern Plaza Hotel, and the Grand Hyatt. Another thing is that the location of the Shangri-La's Far Eastern Plaza Hotel is not very convenient to go to the venue. You have to take taxi, change two bus lines, or walk for 2.2km. -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Paul Coverdale Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 5:42 PM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels Apologies if this has already been answered, but what are the public transportation options for getting from TPE to Shangri-La's Far Eastern Plaza Hotel? ...Paul >-----Original Message----- >From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org >[mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >On Behalf Of Mike McBride >Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 6:29 AM >To: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com >Cc: paul.hoffman@vpnc.org; 82attendees@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels > >Anyone know about walking in that area? Unless its pounding rain, I'm >planning on going real cheap and walking between Howard and Hyatt. If >anyone wants a walking pal, please ping me. > >mike > >On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:08 PM, wrote: >> Taxis are waiting in front of the hotels most of the time. In the >mornings though there is a queue for taxis, it took me 5-10 min to get >a taxi. >> Short trips are not an issue. The starting price is NT$70, which >includes one mile or so. The trip between Shangri-la and Hyatt costs >NT$90 to NT$110, depending on traffic, and took 5-15 min. Same applies >between Howard and Hyatt. >> -gabor >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- >bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Paul Hoffman >> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:44 AM >> To: 82attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels >> >> Greetings again. For those of us staying in the Shangri-La and the >Howard: >> >> - Are taxis easy to find a odd hours? I know I will be going early >some mornings, but I also know I will be going from TICC to my hotel >after 2200 some nights. If they are not easy to find, what is the trick >to finding them? >> >> - Is there a problem with taking short trips, which these look like? >> >> --Paul Hoffman >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >> >_______________________________________________ >82attendees mailing list >82attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Tue Nov 8 03:30:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3780E21F8CAC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 03:30:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.236 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.236 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ihtv4JAeTJOt for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 03:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE8121F8CAE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 03:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pA8BU6CK095783 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:30:06 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?big5?B?pP2n1Kao?= To: <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <696E8C82-AC5E-496A-9408-A586B03E9A03@vpnc.org> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476158633@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:29:52 +0800 Message-ID: <001e01cc9e09$bc13cbd0$343b6370$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: Acyd12G5V5SO9cPmRtqgI/N6v8Vb4gAMJO+Q Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pA8BU6CK095783 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:30:13 -0000 Walking is fine. You can walk toward east through Ren-Ai Rd., turn right at Dun-Hua S. Rd., turn left at Xin-Yi Rd., after few blocks, you can see the TICC building (just across the Keekung Rd.). But the distant is over 2.5km from the Howard Hotel to the TICC. There is a bus stop just in front of the Howard Hotel. You can take bus line 37 to the Taipei World Trade Center. Or ask the service desk in the hotel for more information. The Taipei World Trade Center is just next door to the venue. Reen-Cheng Wang -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike McBride Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 1:29 PM To: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com Cc: paul.hoffman@vpnc.org; 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels Anyone know about walking in that area? Unless its pounding rain, I'm planning on going real cheap and walking between Howard and Hyatt. If anyone wants a walking pal, please ping me. mike On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:08 PM, wrote: > Taxis are waiting in front of the hotels most of the time. In the mornings though there is a queue for taxis, it took me 5-10 min to get a taxi. > Short trips are not an issue. The starting price is NT$70, which includes one mile or so. The trip between Shangri-la and Hyatt costs NT$90 to NT$110, depending on traffic, and took 5-15 min. Same applies between Howard and Hyatt. > -gabor > > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Paul Hoffman > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 10:44 AM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Taxis from the "other" hotels > > Greetings again. For those of us staying in the Shangri-La and the Howard: > > - Are taxis easy to find a odd hours? I know I will be going early some mornings, but I also know I will be going from TICC to my hotel after 2200 some nights. If they are not easy to find, what is the trick to finding them? > > - Is there a problem with taking short trips, which these look like? > > --Paul Hoffman > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From ynir@checkpoint.com Tue Nov 8 04:09:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8273D21F8C36 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:09:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.3 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.299, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oU8h8afyijZq for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:09:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from michael.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA7121F8B66 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:09:04 -0800 (PST) X-CheckPoint: {4EB91B6D-10009-1B221DC2-FFFF} Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.26]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pA8C93AV010498 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:09:03 +0200 Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) by il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) with mapi; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:09:02 +0200 From: Yoav Nir To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:09:03 +0200 Thread-Topic: Walking in the rain Thread-Index: AcyeDzPCrEVq1wWgSEGGf1XNeVAv8A== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 acceptlanguage: en-US x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: scan successful x-kse-antivirus-info: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:09:06 -0000 Hi all I looked at this link, and it says that Taipei has very little rain in November. http://www.travelchinaguide.com/climate/taipei.htm OTOH weather.com predicts rain for the entire IETF week: http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Taipei+Taiwan+TWXX0021 So what kind of rain our we talking about? Is it a slight constant drizzle like, say, in Seattle, or does the phrase "it never rains but it pours" apply? Considering the weather, does it make sense to walk for 2 km from hotel to TICC? Thanks Yoav From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Tue Nov 8 04:18:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41B821F8B78 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:18:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.236 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.236 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C9uonYugE8-6 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0B221F8B73 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:18:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pA8CIilU003895 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 20:18:44 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?big5?B?pP2n1Kao?= To: <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650AFE5BDD@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at><4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120B20EA@dfweml505-mbx> <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25073CA67F@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929744C6CDFFBD@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929744C6CDFFBD@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 20:18:19 +0800 Message-ID: <002501cc9e10$804a7390$80df5ab0$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcyW3BpuiH+Hr3lySzqA65Bd2ThcgADgZnkQAANMA2AAGRH98AABPJLQAM2oQcA= Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pA8CIilU003895 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:18:44 -0000 Green Island ("Lyudao") is a wonderful place for Scuba diving and Skin Diving. Especially there is a hot spring from the sea water which makes = the beautiful ocean ecology. There are only three under sea hot spring in = the world. Except the one in the Green Island, the other two are in the Hokkaido, Japan and the Sicily, Italy. However, the weather is not good = in this week. It start to rain from yesterday in the Taitung Area (where I = live and also where the Greed Island is). The weather forecast says the rain = will not stop before 11/13. Another thing is that I am not sure your time is enough or not. From Taipei to the Green Island, the fastest way is = taking one hour plane (depart at 7:40 or 8:15 in the morning) from the Taipei SongShan Airport to the Taitung Airport in the morning, then transport another plane depart at 12:05 to the Green Island which will land at = 12:20. It not the hot season so that ticket is not hard to buy. But booking in advance is also recommended. The last plane depart from the Green Island = is at 16:40, which will arrive Taitung at 16:55, and you can change the = plane at 17:55 back to Taipei which landed at 18:45. One day trip is possible = but will be very tired, especially you are going to Scuba Diving. Two day = trip is recommended but you have to reserve some place to live. The Green = Island has no big hotels but only few small hotels and B&B. Reen-Cheng Wang -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Andras Csaszar Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 5:30 PM To: bruno.decraene@orange.com; alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at Cc: lufang@cisco.com; 82attendees@ietf.org; linda.dunbar@huawei.com Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? I would also join a dive on Sunday, 13 Nov. To introduce yet another SDO :-), I'm NAUI/Advanced, and Nitrox is fine, too. Unfortunately, my last dive was two years ago... Andras > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of=20 > bruno.decraene@orange.com > Sent: 2011. november 4. 9:59 > To: alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at > Cc: lufang@cisco.com; 82attendees@ietf.org; linda.dunbar@huawei.com > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? >=20 >=20 > > i'm planning to go scuba diving on Sat/Sun/Mon after the meeting > > (19th- 21st), >=20 > If anyone has plans for the first WE (Sat, Sunday 11th-12th) I would=20 > be candidate >=20 > I'm a CMAS *** diver (yes, a different SDO :-) ), air only, haven't=20 > done diving for 5 years. >=20 > Bruno >=20 > >-----Original Message----- > >From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org > >[mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Luyuan Fang > >(lufang) > >Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:36 PM > >To: Linda Dunbar; Alexander Mayrhofer; 82attendees@ietf.org > >Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? > > > >Alexander, > > > >Sounds exciting, thx! > >Count me in for now. > > > >I'm a PADI certified open water diver, haven't done diving > for years though. > >I only land in Taiwan 0:20AM on Sunday, but still like to > jump in for a > >Sunday dive, as I don't have other time. > > > >Linda, > >> You are not supposed to dive after flight ride, is it? > >Em, may be true... > >I did night dive in Hawaii right after 10+ hours flight, > well, when I was younger. > >This trip is 20+ hours, could be a problem, will see. > > > >Luyuan > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-=20 > >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linda Dunbar > >> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:23 PM > >> To: Alexander Mayrhofer; 82attendees@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? > >> > >> Thank you very much for the information. I never thought there is=20 > >> scuba near Taiwan. > >> I would be very interested in going on Sunday or Friday > (last day of > >> IETF). Can you snorkel too? You are not supposed to dive > after flight > >> ride, is it? > >> > >> Linda > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- > >> bounces@ietf.org] > >> > On Behalf Of Alexander Mayrhofer > >> > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 3:17 AM > >> > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > >> > Subject: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? > >> > > >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > i'm planning to go scuba diving on Sat/Sun/Mon after the meeting > >> (19th- > >> > 21st), most likely to Green Island ("Lyudao"), "one of > Asia's most > >> > underrated scuba destination". Water temperature should be around > >> 22=A2XC, > >> > visibility is rumored to be beyond 70ft - and there's lots of=20 > >> > marine life to see, including "Big Mushroom", the world's oldest=20 > >> > known coral with an estimated age of over 1200 years ... > >> > > >> > Anybody interested in joining? > >> > > >> > Alex > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > 82attendees mailing list > >> > 82attendees@ietf.org > >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 82attendees mailing list > >> 82attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > >_______________________________________________ > >82attendees mailing list > >82attendees@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From cabo@tzi.org Tue Nov 8 04:22:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361F921F8C31 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:22:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l4hFAg80rqts for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460BB21F8C19 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:22:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA8CLuhV011476; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:21:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from dynamic-218-e.informatik.uni-bremen.de (dynamic-218-e.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.218.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 979DFDC6; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:21:56 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:21:57 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> References: To: Yoav Nir X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:22:15 -0000 On Nov 8, 2011, at 13:09, Yoav Nir wrote: > So what kind of rain our we talking about? Is it a slight constant > drizzle like, say, in Seattle, or does the phrase "it never rains but = it > pours" apply? You can look at more detailed weather forecasts such as: http://www.accuweather.com/en-us/tw/taipei-city/taipei/details5.aspx (where we see this is supposed to be 3.3mm of precipitation) Compare this slight drizzle with=20 http://www.accuweather.com/en-us/tw/taipei-city/taipei/details2.aspx "Windy with rain, heavy at times; watch for flooding" (38 mm = precipitation) Rain =E2=89=A0 rain=E2=80=A6 More interesting is the question what the expected indoor weather is in = TICC. Do we expect a US-style arctic storm or can we get by without serious = outdoor isolation clothing in the meeting rooms? Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From bertietf@bwijnen.net Tue Nov 8 04:40:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C704B21F8B7B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:40:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.534 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.534 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9TVVV93cbSf0 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from postlady.ripe.net (postlady.ipv6.ripe.net [IPv6:2001:67c:2e8:11::c100:1341]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE2A21F8B6F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayeaye.ripe.net ([193.0.23.5]) by postlady.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RNky6-0003T9-3b; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:39:58 +0100 Received: from dog.ripe.net ([193.0.1.217] helo=guest114.guestnet.ripe.net) by ayeaye.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RNky5-0006Gd-Cx; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:39:57 +0100 Message-ID: <4EB9231D.8010807@bwijnen.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:39:57 +0100 From: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carsten Bormann References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.9 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd4a081f31658c3bd4421c5d1d6a1dd5288 Cc: Yoav Nir , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:40:03 -0000 On 11/8/11 1:21 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > More interesting is the question what the expected indoor weather is in TICC. > Do we expect a US-style arctic storm or can we get by without serious outdoor isolation clothing in the meeting rooms? That is indeed good to hear about. It is often unpredictable. Knowing what to expect would be great. Bert From klaas@wierenga.net Tue Nov 8 04:44:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C9521F8C4D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:44:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.903 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69Y4ANojCwQY for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:44:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from out46-ams.mf.surf.net (out46-ams.mf.surf.net [145.0.1.46]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1960A21F8C66 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:44:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from teletubbie.het.net.je (teletubbie.het.net.je [192.87.110.29]) by outgoing2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id pA8CiWVS018429; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:44:32 +0100 Received: from [192.167.174.92] (helo=[192.168.159.173]) by teletubbie.het.net.je with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RNl1N-000L2i-B3; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:43:21 +0100 References: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650AFE5BDD@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at> <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120B20EA@dfweml505-mbx> <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25073CA67F@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929744C6CDFFBD@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se> <002501cc9e10$804a7390$80df5ab0$@edu.tw> In-Reply-To: <002501cc9e10$804a7390$80df5ab0$@edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <754C1BE0-A8DC-401A-B438-80AC28E3B8D3@wierenga.net> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Klaas Wierenga Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:44:35 +0100 To: =?utf-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= X-Antivirus: no malware found X-Bayes-Prob: 0.5 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=192.87.110.29; country=NL; latitude=52.5000; longitude=5.7500; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5000,5.7500&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: p-out:default (inherits from p:default,base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0vFSAIwg5 - 6eb1d71699a6 - 20111108 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 145.0.1.46 Cc: "<82attendees@ietf.org>" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:44:36 -0000 besides, flying immediately after scuba diving is not a good idea either....= Sent from my iPad On 8 nov. 2011, at 13:18, =E7=8E=8B=E5=BF=8D=E6=88=90 w= rote: > Green Island ("Lyudao") is a wonderful place for Scuba diving and Skin > Diving. Especially there is a hot spring from the sea water which makes th= e > beautiful ocean ecology. There are only three under sea hot spring in the > world. Except the one in the Green Island, the other two are in the > Hokkaido, Japan and the Sicily, Italy. However, the weather is not good in= > this week. It start to rain from yesterday in the Taitung Area (where I li= ve > and also where the Greed Island is). The weather forecast says the rain wi= ll > not stop before 11/13. Another thing is that I am not sure your time is > enough or not. =46rom Taipei to the Green Island, the fastest way is takin= g > one hour plane (depart at 7:40 or 8:15 in the morning) from the Taipei > SongShan Airport to the Taitung Airport in the morning, then transport > another plane depart at 12:05 to the Green Island which will land at 12:20= . > It not the hot season so that ticket is not hard to buy. But booking in > advance is also recommended. The last plane depart from the Green Island i= s > at 16:40, which will arrive Taitung at 16:55, and you can change the plane= > at 17:55 back to Taipei which landed at 18:45. One day trip is possible bu= t > will be very tired, especially you are going to Scuba Diving. Two day trip= > is recommended but you have to reserve some place to live. The Green Islan= d > has no big hotels but only few small hotels and B&B. >=20 > Reen-Cheng Wang >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] O= n > Behalf Of Andras Csaszar > Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 5:30 PM > To: bruno.decraene@orange.com; alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at > Cc: lufang@cisco.com; 82attendees@ietf.org; linda.dunbar@huawei.com > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? >=20 > I would also join a dive on Sunday, 13 Nov. >=20 > To introduce yet another SDO :-), I'm NAUI/Advanced, and Nitrox is fine, > too. Unfortunately, my last dive was two years ago... >=20 > Andras >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of=20 >> bruno.decraene@orange.com >> Sent: 2011. november 4. 9:59 >> To: alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at >> Cc: lufang@cisco.com; 82attendees@ietf.org; linda.dunbar@huawei.com >> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? >>=20 >>=20 >>> i'm planning to go scuba diving on Sat/Sun/Mon after the meeting >>> (19th- 21st), >>=20 >> If anyone has plans for the first WE (Sat, Sunday 11th-12th) I would=20 >> be candidate >>=20 >> I'm a CMAS *** diver (yes, a different SDO :-) ), air only, haven't=20 >> done diving for 5 years. >>=20 >> Bruno >>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org >>> [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Luyuan Fang >>> (lufang) >>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 10:36 PM >>> To: Linda Dunbar; Alexander Mayrhofer; 82attendees@ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? >>>=20 >>> Alexander, >>>=20 >>> Sounds exciting, thx! >>> Count me in for now. >>>=20 >>> I'm a PADI certified open water diver, haven't done diving >> for years though. >>> I only land in Taiwan 0:20AM on Sunday, but still like to >> jump in for a >>> Sunday dive, as I don't have other time. >>>=20 >>> Linda, >>>> You are not supposed to dive after flight ride, is it? >>> Em, may be true... >>> I did night dive in Hawaii right after 10+ hours flight, >> well, when I was younger. >>> This trip is 20+ hours, could be a problem, will see. >>>=20 >>> Luyuan >>>=20 >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-=20 >>>> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Linda Dunbar >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 3:23 PM >>>> To: Alexander Mayrhofer; 82attendees@ietf.org >>>> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? >>>>=20 >>>> Thank you very much for the information. I never thought there is=20 >>>> scuba near Taiwan. >>>> I would be very interested in going on Sunday or Friday >> (last day of >>>> IETF). Can you snorkel too? You are not supposed to dive >> after flight >>>> ride, is it? >>>>=20 >>>> Linda >>>>=20 >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- >>>> bounces@ietf.org] >>>>> On Behalf Of Alexander Mayrhofer >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 3:17 AM >>>>> To: 82attendees@ietf.org >>>>> Subject: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hello, >>>>>=20 >>>>> i'm planning to go scuba diving on Sat/Sun/Mon after the meeting >>>> (19th- >>>>> 21st), most likely to Green Island ("Lyudao"), "one of >> Asia's most >>>>> underrated scuba destination". Water temperature should be around >>>> 22=C2=B0C, >>>>> visibility is rumored to be beyond 70ft - and there's lots of=20 >>>>> marine life to see, including "Big Mushroom", the world's oldest=20 >>>>> known coral with an estimated age of over 1200 years ... >>>>>=20 >>>>> Anybody interested in joining? >>>>>=20 >>>>> Alex >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 82attendees mailing list >>>>> 82attendees@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 82attendees mailing list >>>> 82attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 82attendees mailing list >>> 82attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Tue Nov 8 04:57:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0716F21F8C47 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:57:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.636 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.636 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.600, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g4ovQpFV0ScB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABBF21F8C31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 04:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pA8CvNaR010676 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 20:57:23 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?utf-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= To: <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 20:56:48 +0800 Message-ID: <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcyeERRal/Um7lVJQD+AQljVQZkumwAAoF/w Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pA8CvNaR010676 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 12:57:27 -0000 Indoor weather :) In the past, the TICC is a place as what you say the "US-style arctic = storm". But from this year, the mayor of Taipei restrict the indoor temperature = of business places cannot lower than 26 degree Celsius with air = conditioner control.=20 So that the indoor weather will as good as outside (about 20-25 degree = Celsius during the meeting). I am not sure the rain in Taipei now but I think an umbrella is required = and enough. The rain in this season will not as big as a storm but = sometimes will be a little bigger than the drizzle in Seattle. Reen-Cheng Wang -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Carsten Bormann Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:22 PM To: Yoav Nir Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain On Nov 8, 2011, at 13:09, Yoav Nir wrote: > So what kind of rain our we talking about? Is it a slight constant=20 > drizzle like, say, in Seattle, or does the phrase "it never rains but=20 > it pours" apply? You can look at more detailed weather forecasts such as: http://www.accuweather.com/en-us/tw/taipei-city/taipei/details5.aspx (where we see this is supposed to be 3.3mm of precipitation) Compare this slight drizzle with=20 http://www.accuweather.com/en-us/tw/taipei-city/taipei/details2.aspx "Windy with rain, heavy at times; watch for flooding" (38 mm = precipitation) Rain =E2=89=A0 rain=E2=80=A6 More interesting is the question what the expected indoor weather is in = TICC. Do we expect a US-style arctic storm or can we get by without serious = outdoor isolation clothing in the meeting rooms? Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From bertietf@bwijnen.net Tue Nov 8 05:20:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C642D21F8C96 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:20:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.386 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.386 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.087, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Z+2n6Lz4BTi for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from postgirl.ripe.net (postgirl.ipv6.ripe.net [IPv6:2001:67c:2e8:11::c100:1342]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADA221F8C94 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dodo.ripe.net ([193.0.23.4]) by postgirl.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RNlav-0007Sw-8m; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:20:06 +0100 Received: from dog.ripe.net ([193.0.1.217] helo=guest114.guestnet.ripe.net) by dodo.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RNlau-0008Bc-Rl; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:20:05 +0100 Message-ID: <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:20:04 +0100 From: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> In-Reply-To: <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.9 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd439c349eb384da815b46f0b71871294eb Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:20:12 -0000 On 11/8/11 1:56 PM, 王忍成 wrote: > But from this year, the mayor of Taipei restrict the indoor temperature of business places cannot lower than 26 degree Celsius with air conditioner control. > So that the indoor weather will as good as outside (about 20-25 degree Celsius during the meeting). Mmm.. that is pretty hot !!! So no sweater needed. Maybe shorts and a T-shirt. Bert From rpelletier@isoc.org Tue Nov 8 05:22:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8871B21F8C8F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:22:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.425 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.425 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.174, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RdRXZXdpk5vb for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp171.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp171.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.171]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4A721F8C94 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:22:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp57.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 93800F81CF; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:22:11 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp57.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 6356EF86EA; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:22:11 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Ray Pelletier In-Reply-To: <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:22:11 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <94FFAC98-9FB5-4F25-A9D3-1CFE55304A80@isoc.org> References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> To: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: =?utf-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:22:14 -0000 On Nov 8, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 11/8/11 1:56 PM, =E7=8E=8B=E5=BF=8D=E6=88=90 wrote: >> But from this year, the mayor of Taipei restrict the indoor = temperature of business places cannot lower than 26 degree Celsius with = air conditioner control. >> So that the indoor weather will as good as outside (about 20-25 = degree Celsius during the meeting). >=20 > Mmm.. that is pretty hot !!! Actually 78.8F is uncomfortably hot! Sure hope there is plenty of water = available. Ray > So no sweater needed. Maybe shorts and a T-shirt. >=20 > Bert > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From klaas@wierenga.net Tue Nov 8 05:28:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D299721F8B5B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:28:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.053 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.053 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id crRAGh8tX7+g for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from out22-ams.mf.surf.net (out22-ams.mf.surf.net [145.0.1.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B64321F8B56 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from teletubbie.het.net.je (teletubbie.het.net.je [192.87.110.29]) by outgoing1-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id pA8DScKR024155; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:28:38 +0100 Received: from [192.167.174.92] (helo=[192.168.159.173]) by teletubbie.het.net.je with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RNli2-000Lbp-MC; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:27:26 +0100 References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> In-Reply-To: <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Klaas Wierenga Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:28:42 +0100 To: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" X-Antivirus: no malware found X-Bayes-Prob: 0.5 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=192.87.110.29; country=NL; latitude=52.5000; longitude=5.7500; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5000,5.7500&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: p-out:default (inherits from p:default,base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0uFSBsCp7 - 613bc5ddef9e - 20111108 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 145.0.1.22 Cc: =?utf-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:28:47 -0000 On 8 nov. 2011, at 14:20, "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" wrote:= >=20 >=20 > On 11/8/11 1:56 PM, =E7=8E=8B=E5=BF=8D=E6=88=90 wrote: >> But from this year, the mayor of Taipei restrict the indoor temperature o= f business places cannot lower than 26 degree Celsius with air conditioner c= ontrol. >> So that the indoor weather will as good as outside (about 20-25 degree Ce= lsius during the meeting). >=20 > Mmm.. that is pretty hot !!! > So no sweater needed. Maybe shorts and a T-shirt. Perhaps the IETF dress code could be relaxed to "casual" ;-) Klaas >=20 > Bert > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From zhao.yi@huawei.com Tue Nov 8 05:30:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8E121F8C7A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:30:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pqpjQ3Q9oa6t for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 05:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from usaga02-in.huawei.com (usaga02-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.70]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22D1921F8C78 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; 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Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:02:36 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:02:36 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> To: =?utf-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:02:46 -0000 On Nov 8, 2011, at 13:56, =E7=8E=8B=E5=BF=8D=E6=88=90 wrote: > (about 20-25 degree Celsius during the meeting). Actually, 22 =C2=B0C is nice (if you don't have to wear a three-piece = suit), while 25 =C2=B0C is a bit warm for a meeting. What I'm really concerned about is the wind chill factor from A/C = systems working in overdrive mode -- even 25 =C2=B0C can be cold when = sitting still in a meeting with 5 m/s wind. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From harald@alvestrand.no Tue Nov 8 06:39:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7361021F8AE1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 06:39:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.551 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.048, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZD29lIMLBe5B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 06:39:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no (eikenes.alvestrand.no [158.38.152.233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F1521F8CC8 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 06:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D321C39E0F3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:39:31 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at eikenes.alvestrand.no Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id j6EYew+3xIFJ for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:39:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from hta-dell.lul.corp.google.com (62-20-124-50.customer.telia.com [62.20.124.50]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 555B839E072 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:39:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EB93F23.6030302@alvestrand.no> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:39:31 +0100 From: Harald Alvestrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> In-Reply-To: <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:39:33 -0000 On 11/08/2011 02:28 PM, Klaas Wierenga wrote: > > On 8 nov. 2011, at 14:20, "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" wrote: > >> >> On 11/8/11 1:56 PM, 王忍成 wrote: >>> But from this year, the mayor of Taipei restrict the indoor temperature of business places cannot lower than 26 degree Celsius with air conditioner control. >>> So that the indoor weather will as good as outside (about 20-25 degree Celsius during the meeting). >> Mmm.. that is pretty hot !!! >> So no sweater needed. Maybe shorts and a T-shirt. > Perhaps the IETF dress code could be relaxed to "casual" ;-) /me imagines a more relaxed IETF dress code /me tries to remove the pictures from his mind. From pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu Tue Nov 8 07:04:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0D921F8C9D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:04:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.411 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.411 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.188, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q4q5LxFeJSn3 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5214121F8C97 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:04:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id udjt1h0041ei1Bg58f498T; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:04:09 +0000 Received: from Paul-Kyzivats-MacBook-Pro.local ([24.62.229.5]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id uf481h00S07duvL3kf481u; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:04:09 +0000 Message-ID: <4EB944E6.20903@alum.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 10:04:06 -0500 From: Paul Kyzivat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <94FFAC98-9FB5-4F25-A9D3-1CFE55304A80@isoc.org> In-Reply-To: <94FFAC98-9FB5-4F25-A9D3-1CFE55304A80@isoc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:04:11 -0000 "Indoor weather" preferences seem to vary a lot. One person's "arctic storm" is another's comfortable shirt sleeve weather. Personally I consider 26C to be almost a sauna, and would prefer 20C. We can be certain that no matter the temperature somebody will be unhappy and uncomfortable. Paul On 11/8/11 8:22 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: > > On Nov 8, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: > >> >> >> On 11/8/11 1:56 PM, 王忍成 wrote: >>> But from this year, the mayor of Taipei restrict the indoor temperature of business places cannot lower than 26 degree Celsius with air conditioner control. >>> So that the indoor weather will as good as outside (about 20-25 degree Celsius during the meeting). >> >> Mmm.. that is pretty hot !!! > > Actually 78.8F is uncomfortably hot! Sure hope there is plenty of water available. > > Ray > >> So no sweater needed. Maybe shorts and a T-shirt. >> >> Bert >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From d3e3e3@gmail.com Tue Nov 8 07:20:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C2021F8CC3 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:20:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.550, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XWkFgV83JVeB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C3421F8CD4 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by faas12 with SMTP id s12so777405faa.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:20:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8WR+ka8EkGt/Vlgyid0Rm6tjS/WrmNNiiwZfkuABNMY=; b=vvvxbl9mylgqiu9ESalP72T7kvngkz3v6sxzas+MjHp5rrS6nLujrjYjCwZq+/nUCy FMU7drWPO7Rq66nlHpIUpc7+EEChbFtbPsok9NRFfjGpOMqA1GbDUaJyMpo7WR/NRTcQ EXzEZSwKTz6Rq7rUj5DjbkrQjg2W6jOFIbZ20= Received: by 10.152.144.2 with SMTP id si2mr8813796lab.8.1320765605070; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 07:20:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.43.4 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:19:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EB944E6.20903@alum.mit.edu> References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <94FFAC98-9FB5-4F25-A9D3-1CFE55304A80@isoc.org> <4EB944E6.20903@alum.mit.edu> From: Donald Eastlake Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:19:44 -0500 Message-ID: To: Paul Kyzivat Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:20:07 -0000 If it a too cold, you can wear more layers. If it is too hot, it is a lot harder to fix. Thanks, Donald =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D =C2=A0Donald E. Eastlake 3rd=C2=A0=C2=A0 +1-508-333-2270 (cell) =C2=A0155 Beaver Street,=C2=A0Milford, MA 01757 USA =C2=A0d3e3e3@gmail.com On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote= : > "Indoor weather" preferences seem to vary a lot. > One person's "arctic storm" is another's comfortable shirt sleeve weather= . > Personally I consider 26C to be almost a sauna, and would prefer 20C. > > We can be certain that no matter the temperature somebody will be unhappy > and uncomfortable. > > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Paul > > On 11/8/11 8:22 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: >> >> On Nov 8, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 11/8/11 1:56 PM, =E7=8E=8B=E5=BF=8D=E6=88=90 wrote: >>>> >>>> But from this year, the mayor of Taipei restrict the indoor temperatur= e >>>> of business places cannot lower than 26 degree Celsius with air condit= ioner >>>> control. >>>> So that the indoor weather will as good as outside (about 20-25 degree >>>> Celsius during the meeting). >>> >>> Mmm.. that is pretty hot !!! >> >> Actually 78.8F is uncomfortably hot! =C2=A0Sure hope there is plenty of = water >> available. >> >> Ray >> >>> So no sweater needed. 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X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:30:13 -0000 Can any Taipei locals identify the park from which this photo (that I = found recently on the Internet) was taken? http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6108/6308873748_461641ccec_b.jpg Ross. From alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at Tue Nov 8 08:09:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B86021F8B52 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:09:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.665 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.665 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.649, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_AT=0.424, HOST_EQ_AT=0.745, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CwelMx3p031h for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:09:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sbg.nic.at (mail.sbg.nic.at [83.136.33.227]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C64821F8B50 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from nics-exch.sbg.nic.at ([10.17.175.3]) by mail.sbg.nic.at over TLS secured channel (TLSv1/SSLv3:AES128-SHA:128) with XWall v3.47 ; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:09:25 +0100 Received: from nics-mail.sbg.nic.at (10.17.175.2) by NICS-EXCH.sbg.nic.at (10.17.175.3) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.339.1; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:09:22 +0100 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:09:21 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Message-ID: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650B0E2DAD@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at> In-Reply-To: <002501cc9e10$804a7390$80df5ab0$@edu.tw> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? Thread-Index: AcyW3BpuiH+Hr3lySzqA65Bd2ThcgADgZnkQAANMA2AAGRH98AABPJLQAM2oQcAACWC5UA== References: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650AFE5BDD@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at><4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120B20EA@dfweml505-mbx> <238542D917511A45B6B8AA806E875E25073CA67F@XMB-RCD-201.cisco.com> <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929744C6CDFFBD@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se> <002501cc9e10$804a7390$80df5ab0$@edu.tw> From: Alexander Mayrhofer To: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCMiZHJkAuGyhC?= , <82attendees@ietf.org> X-XWALL-BCKS: auto Subject: Re: [82attendees] Scuba diving after the Taipei meeting? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:09:30 -0000 > Green Island ("Lyudao") is a wonderful place for Scuba diving and Skin Diving. > Especially there is a hot spring from the sea water which makes the beautiful > ocean ecology. I'm actually planning to go there after the meeting (18th to 21st of November), but still unsure whether to go by train or to fly in. If someone wants to join me, i'm more than happy (there's one person who will likely join me already). Alex From mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com Tue Nov 8 08:53:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CE41F0C3B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:53:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.907 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.907 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.392, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ppxxKIr41gRK for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB1A1F0C34 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1so636123vcb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:53:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=El+GXOiJMo8FvM52XAL90MxrSv3uet/gwj2wR/vHCt4=; b=nebKymQA2LY4iU0FkZWZ2JmjOGkAlQ7Jb2slNv4imuwm8cjls6EIMV8tjq3LQBinNo 2LSAFoW6Okbfa/cA1t1jvAfnzSgRVHtwhkTV8O2k23++Q0/NbbOC65bJJz33auARF9YO OcwY1C3W29oby/zpVzl2wqN5+mW4p9VglV/zw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.65.176 with SMTP id y16mr18652269vds.53.1320771207600; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:53:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:53:27 -0600 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: =?UTF-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:53:29 -0000 A couple comments inline below [MB]. Mary On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:56 AM, =E7=8E=8B=E5=BF=8D=E6=88=90 wrote: > Indoor weather :) > > In the past, the TICC is a place as what you say the "US-style arctic sto= rm". > But from this year, the mayor of Taipei restrict the indoor temperature o= f business places cannot lower than 26 degree Celsius with air conditioner = control. > So that the indoor weather will as good as outside (about 20-25 degree Ce= lsius during the meeting). [MB] Is the hotel considered a business? If so, this will be an incredibly miserable meeting for some of us, who prefer lower temperatures for optimal sleeping (the general recommendation for such is 65-72 F, 18-22 C). While the outdoor temp may be 20-25, it is quite usual for the indoor temperature to be higher, in particular if there are no windows to be opened in the sleeping rooms. The full meeting rooms filled with bodies and laptops will also be significantly warmer. Given that thermometers are not likely to be in the middle of these meeting rooms, the middle of a packed meeting room may well be far warmer than 26.[/MB] > > More interesting is the question what the expected indoor weather is in T= ICC. > Do we expect a US-style arctic storm or can we get by without serious out= door isolation clothing in the meeting rooms? [MB] In my experience, you also never know the temperature in airplanes and it also varies widely based upon where you are sitting. So, I would imagine most folks are at least bringing an extra layer to deal with this situation. If the meeting rooms are cooler, the extra layer can then be used there. Also, you can always buy a souvenir sweatshirt (that's what we silly Americans do when we travel somewhere and don't have warm enough clothing. [/MB] >> > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From craemer@isoc.org Tue Nov 8 08:55:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBA81F0C4A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:55:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ntzYDSyP6bMP for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp151.dfw.emailsrvr.com (smtp151.dfw.emailsrvr.com [67.192.241.151]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6CD1F0C34 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 08:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp25.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1C9642D010C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:55:40 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp25.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: craemer-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 59F972D0436 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:55:39 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Craemer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:55:38 -0500 Message-Id: <1DED3F31-D876-4455-833C-4F26D5465CC2@isoc.org> To: 82attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [82attendees] ISOC@IETF 82 Briefing Panelists Announced X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:55:42 -0000 The Internet Society panel at IETF 82, Beyond PUT, POST and GET: = application data routing carves its own path, will feature Aaron Falk, = David Oran and Richard Woundy. Seating is limited and pre-registration = is required. A limited number of seats are still available. To = register, look for the registration form link at: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/ietf82-briefing/ ISOC@IETF 82 Briefing Panel: Beyond PUT, POST and GET: application data = routing carves its own path Location: Taipei International Convention Center Date: Tuesday, 15 November 2011 11:45 - 12:45 (local time) Applications and services are how most people see the Internet -- and = their "quality of experience" is directly related to their smooth = functioning: flow of application data. The Internet's underlying = infrastructure for routing packets has proven eminently successful for = supporting a broad range of such applications and services by connecting = any and all endpoints, forwarding packets of data based on best effort, = and overall optimized for general characteristics of flows. = Applications and services are evolving well beyond simple client-server = models, and feature their own metrics for efficiency and effectiveness = of moving data. General Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) evolved as a = mechanism for getting application data closer to its use. = Increasingly, access providers are looking to provide their own CDNs, = and new work is looking at applications from the information routing = perspective -- named data, information centric, or name oriented = networking, to name a few. The panel will survey these approaches and = address a number of basic questions. Moderator Leslie Daigle Leslie Daigle is the Chief Internet Technology Officer for the Internet = Society. She has been actively involved in shaping the Internet's = technical evolution for more than a dozen years. Her role with the = Internet Society is to provide strategic leadership on important = technical issues as they relate to ISOC's ongoing programs. She has = worked with the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) since 1995, and = was an appointed member of the related Internet Architecture Board (IAB) = from March 2000 to March 2008. Panelists Aaron Falk Aaron Falk is a Director of Business and Product Management for CDN = Solutions at Verivue, a CDN technology startup. He guides product = evolution for the Verivue OneVantage content delivery solution, working = with network operators to understand their needs and setting development = priorities. Prior to Verivue, Aaron was the Engineering Architect for = the GENI Project, a virtual laboratory for exploring future Internets, = and had led a variety of R&D efforts in satellite networks, sensor = networks, and congestion control. Aaron has been active in the IETF for = over 15 years, serving as chair of the Internet Research Task Force and = several IETF transport area working groups, in addition to authoring = RFC5241. David Oran David Oran is a Fellow at Cisco Systems. His technical interests lie in = the areas of Internet multimedia, routing, and content networking. He = was part of the original team that started Cisco's Voice-over-IP = business in 1996 and helped grow it into a multi-billion dollar revenue = stream. He is currently working on streaming high quality video over IP = networks, and new methods of caching and massive scale data delivery. = Prior to joining Cisco, Mr. Oran worked in the network architecture = group at Digital Equipment, where he designed routing algorithms and a = distributed directory system. Mr. Oran has led a number of industry = standards efforts. He was a member of the Internet Architecture Board, = co-chair of the Speech Services working group, and served a term as area = director for Routing in the IETF. He was on the board of the SIP Forum = from its inception through 2008. He also serves on the technical = advisory boards of a number of venture-backed firms in the networking = and telecommunication sectors. Richard Woundy Richard Woundy is VP of Platform Architecture in Comcast Cable. In this = position, he is responsible for leading the platform architecture team = on new product development initiatives. Richard previously managed = efforts related to congestion management and IPv6 adoption, and was the = lead architect for back office architecture and numerous = data/voice/video and wireless initiatives. Richard arrived at Comcast = via the acquisition of AT&T Broadband. Additional information is available at: http://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/ietf82-briefing/ For those unable to attend, we expect to provide a live (and archived) = audiocast, information for which will be available at the webpage above. Kevin Craemer Senior Events Manager Internet Society craemer@isoc.org From ilpo.jarvinen@helsinki.fi Tue Nov 8 09:07:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8560321F88B7 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 09:07:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R+ZvNsK4+x9S for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 09:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cs.helsinki.fi (courier.cs.helsinki.fi [128.214.9.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C888121F88A0 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 09:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from melkinpaasi.cs.helsinki.fi (melkinpaasi.cs.helsinki.fi [128.214.9.14]) (TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by mail.cs.helsinki.fi with esmtp; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:07:13 +0200 id 0006807F.4EB961C1.000056E2 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:07:12 +0200 (EET) From: "=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Ilpo_J=E4rvinen?=" X-X-Sender: ijjarvin@melkinpaasi.cs.helsinki.fi To: Ross Finlayson In-Reply-To: <54F3CB59-EC9F-432E-90C9-92DD3D690A8E@live555.com> Message-ID: References: <54F3CB59-EC9F-432E-90C9-92DD3D690A8E@live555.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where was this photo (of Taipei) taken? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:07:16 -0000 On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, Ross Finlayson wrote: > Can any Taipei locals identify the park from which this photo (that I found recently on the Internet) was taken? > > http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6108/6308873748_461641ccec_b.jpg My try based on some limited hiking related research: try four beast mountains. But there's even higher peaks only a bit further away. -- i. From hendrik.scholz@voipfuture.com Tue Nov 8 07:39:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1FBF21F8BEC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:39:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JLxQdEySxEiY for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.voipfuture.com (mail.voipfuture.com [212.126.220.242]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D32921F8BEB for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 07:39:52 -0800 (PST) X-Footer: dm9pcGZ1dHVyZS5jb20= Received: from [192.168.1.248] ([192.168.1.1]) (authenticated user hscholz@voipfuture.com) by mail.voipfuture.com (Kerio Connect 7.2.3 patch 1) (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES256-SHA (256 bits)); Tue, 8 Nov 2011 16:38:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4EB94D40.8080201@voipfuture.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:39:44 +0100 From: Hendrik Scholz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <54F3CB59-EC9F-432E-90C9-92DD3D690A8E@live555.com> In-Reply-To: <54F3CB59-EC9F-432E-90C9-92DD3D690A8E@live555.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 09:40:43 -0800 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where was this photo (of Taipei) taken? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:39:53 -0000 On 11/08/2011 04:30 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6108/6308873748_461641ccec_b.jpg I'm no local but should be 'Elephant Mountain' based on Google and Flickr. http://taiwan-photography-blog.com/2009/05/15/hiking-four-beasts-elephant-mountain/ Count me in if you are going on a trip ;-) Cheers, Hendrik -- VOIPFUTURE GmbH Wendenstrae 4 20097 Hamburg Germany Phone +49 40 688 900 163 Fax +49 40 688 900 199 Email hendrik.scholz@voipfuture.com Web http://www.voipfuture.com CEO Jan Bastian Commercial Court AG Hamburg HRB 109896 VAT ID DE263738086 From tomasz.mrugalski@gmail.com Tue Nov 8 10:00:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16A211E8095 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:00:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.569 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.569 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.030, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XEk6T71N7bxy for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wy0-f172.google.com (mail-wy0-f172.google.com [74.125.82.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F1311E807F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:00:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by wyg30 with SMTP id 30so918256wyg.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 10:00:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-tagtoolbar-keys:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ls++hrli0bRxrm5dpYdYMjRzSYC4BSpGhTIBr06R1/4=; b=XGKj9I6dRxEHaT5g4F4i26JSkeWTWJ7hPh/rMHQd3qcmDCj90OPjrbD3UlCf7PSElJ zuWcYwqBSDymbCWgl3NXLT9TNtJIgLrcRcu9wbl8lzDCNiKrktJ0pGiKAkml4fn19YlM PInpx+Q2pmjUqSTIMmBnXXRVs6p/ZHyyASe9k= Received: by 10.216.192.36 with SMTP id h36mr2836836wen.85.1320775224402; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 10:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.100] (host-109-107-11-157.ip.jarsat.pl. [109.107.11.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x9sm2568349wbn.2.2011.11.08.10.00.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Nov 2011 10:00:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EB96E3A.2070805@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:00:26 +0100 From: Tomek Mrugalski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110922 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <54F3CB59-EC9F-432E-90C9-92DD3D690A8E@live555.com> <4EB94D40.8080201@voipfuture.com> In-Reply-To: <4EB94D40.8080201@voipfuture.com> X-TagToolbar-Keys: D20111108190026884 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where was this photo (of Taipei) taken? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:00:26 -0000 On 08.11.2011 16:39, Hendrik Scholz wrote: > On 11/08/2011 04:30 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6108/6308873748_461641ccec_b.jpg > > I'm no local but should be 'Elephant Mountain' based on Google and > Flickr. > http://taiwan-photography-blog.com/2009/05/15/hiking-four-beasts-elephant-mountain/ > > Count me in if you are going on a trip ;-) +1 Tomek From ben@nostrum.com Tue Nov 8 10:19:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C047521F8B4C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:19:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.87 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.87 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.666, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PHsMtgWUU95r for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75D621F8B38 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.19] (cpe-76-187-75-59.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.75.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA8IJ4r8008031 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:19:06 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 12:19:15 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> To: Mary Barnes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 76.187.75.59 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: =?utf-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:19:12 -0000 On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Mary Barnes wrote: > [MB] Is the hotel considered a business? If so, this will be an > incredibly miserable meeting for some of us, who prefer lower > temperatures for optimal sleeping (the general recommendation for such > is 65-72 F, 18-22 C). While the outdoor temp may be 20-25, it is > quite usual for the indoor temperature to be higher, in particular if > there are no windows to be opened in the sleeping rooms. This seems to indicate the actual hotel rooms (sleeping rooms, not = meeting rooms) are exempt. Hopefully we will have control over our room = thermostats just like in most other hotels. = http://english.dep.taipei.gov.tw/ct.asp?xItem=3D1979271&ctNode=3D22971&mp=3D= 105002 (Credit to Adam for finding that link) Ben.= From ogud@ogud.com Tue Nov 8 10:20:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DDE21F8B50 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:20:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zkfiQY2YnoUJ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:20:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F67A21F8B51 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA8IKCjx071654 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:20:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-ID: <4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:20:04 -0500 From: Olafur Gudmundsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> In-Reply-To: <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:20:14 -0000 On 11/8/2011 8:28 AM, Klaas Wierenga wrote: > > > On 8 nov. 2011, at 14:20, "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" wrote: > >> >> >> On 11/8/11 1:56 PM, 王忍成 wrote: >>> But from this year, the mayor of Taipei restrict the indoor temperature of business places cannot lower than 26 degree Celsius with air conditioner control. >>> So that the indoor weather will as good as outside (about 20-25 degree Celsius during the meeting). >> >> Mmm.. that is pretty hot !!! >> So no sweater needed. Maybe shorts and a T-shirt. > > Perhaps the IETF dress code could be relaxed to "casual" ;-) > As a survivor of the Munich IETF-39 meeting, one advise: Bring and use deodorant :-) Olafur From lars.eggert@nokia.com Tue Nov 8 10:39:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A4811E80ED for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:39:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.086 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.086 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.513, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id reO4Kn9rsHqy for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-da01.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A211C11E807F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 10:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (esdhcp030222.research.nokia.com [172.21.30.222]) by mgw-da01.nokia.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pA8IdlC0003583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 20:39:48 +0200 From: Lars Eggert X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at fit.nokia.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7FC3632F-4A72-4ABE-B398-8E64E1D8ECF8"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 20:39:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> <4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mail.fit.nokia.com); Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:39:41 +0200 (EET) X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:39:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_7FC3632F-4A72-4ABE-B398-8E64E1D8ECF8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Folks, can we maybe trust the secretariat folks just a little a bit? = They have site selection criteria, and it's not exactly the first time = they pick a site for an IETF. It'll be OK. 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<4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.9 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd4ef13f98df1a5fc5e9808136aee117baf Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:05:34 -0000 On 11/8/11 7:20 PM, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: >> >> Perhaps the IETF dress code could be relaxed to "casual" ;-) >> > > As a survivor of the Munich IETF-39 meeting, one advise: > Bring and use deodorant :-) The good thing there was that there was cold Spaten Dunkeles during the breaks (or at least yopu could buy it in the Biergarten). Bert From bertietf@bwijnen.net Tue Nov 8 11:06:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 700E81F0C55 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:06:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.535 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.535 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.064, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W6Bjiesid5Kd for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from postlady.ripe.net (postlady.ipv6.ripe.net [IPv6:2001:67c:2e8:11::c100:1341]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 598061F0C3D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from dodo.ripe.net ([193.0.23.4]) by postlady.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RNr0N-0003jJ-Sw; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:06:44 +0100 Received: from dog.ripe.net ([193.0.1.217] helo=BWMACBOOK.local) by dodo.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RNr0N-00023L-6a; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:06:43 +0100 Message-ID: <4EB97DC2.20500@bwijnen.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:06:42 +0100 From: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Eggert References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> <4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.9 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd4d65ae7a4a35bdad7512ca86621470e13 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:06:56 -0000 Sorry, I hope that our discussions here are not considered as criticism to the secretariat. At least mine are NOT. Bert On 11/8/11 7:39 PM, Lars Eggert wrote: > Folks, can we maybe trust the secretariat folks just a little a bit? They have site selection criteria, and it's not exactly the first time they pick a site for an IETF. It'll be OK. > > Lars From mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com Tue Nov 8 11:20:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65CB121F8B0B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:20:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.071 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.071 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.528, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HtYOPruRTa83 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F9D21F8AED for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1so810764vcb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:20:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ObTe4qtOh4dWQN+dA5KCRIQf8EFmmZvBbM3fwcF/Ads=; b=CCYPJFk0tb9OP8wy5iRRF1an7gLBUtW2oINWu0rOeWkuEqaDsxb8zNRIpPqd8piyYp 48RIhlu4TDpTjxrnFZuT4TrzvpnGuuoZQmwZjhTlpgEqD7Ueb0ZnX3pgiPbZMQaVAd4k Hv4w4FfzcKRnUbf4FDeSIw44dj18HbKN8Qbcs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.65.1 with SMTP id t1mr4836019vds.121.1320780054523; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:20:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EB97DC2.20500@bwijnen.net> References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> <4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> <4EB97DC2.20500@bwijnen.net> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:20:54 -0600 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Lars Eggert Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:20:57 -0000 I can't imagine that anyone was criticizing the secretariat. Someone asked about the temp in meeting rooms and some of us did react to the email wrt the law about limits on cooling with A/C. I can't fathom that the secretariat will be able to control that and given the law came into effect after the location was decided, I personally wouldn't expect the folks that select the meeting venue to have control over this either. But, it might be something to keep in mind for future venues. IMHO, this discussion is helpful for folks to consider what to pack in terms of being prepared for very warm meeting rooms. I will now pack more clothing that I wear in the summer in Texas rather than clothing that I am would typically wear in a place with more moderate temperatures. Regards, Mary. On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: > Sorry, I hope that our discussions here are not considered as > criticism to the secretariat. At least mine are NOT. > > Bert > > On 11/8/11 7:39 PM, Lars Eggert wrote: >> >> Folks, can we maybe trust the secretariat folks just a little a bit? They >> have site selection criteria, and it's not exactly the first time they pick >> a site for an IETF. It'll be OK. >> >> Lars > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From melinda.shore@gmail.com Tue Nov 8 11:25:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7841F0C67 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:25:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7Owhs9QX+Zmr for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 417551F0C52 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:25:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by qadc10 with SMTP id c10so814241qad.10 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:25:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JC2ZFJAcSHD4NWo5mjacRYF+B9AG0X145pBy9XmxXSw=; b=mh98eqzOhcQo11zfBet8wrGiXWy8s+hdVi+y7Z8Ri7hgqQoRHeVxLNz15hoYrlR0cw pxCpdv+ZQ/VNV7Lu9kwzmvzLBIpi/SM06HnoQOrQ79Ohr54QqvAKip87/VwT1N2ennpa O3+MTXFD8o5lBkX+H8sEkkL+zeLFqt1hpoHvo= Received: by 10.224.174.3 with SMTP id r3mr16113895qaz.22.1320780324841; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:25:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [137.229.12.236] (drake.swits.alaska.edu. [137.229.12.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bw9sm2524972qab.18.2011.11.08.11.25.23 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Nov 2011 11:25:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EB98226.1030405@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 10:25:26 -0900 From: Melinda Shore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> <4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> <4EB97DC2.20500@bwijnen.net> In-Reply-To: <4EB97DC2.20500@bwijnen.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:25:25 -0000 On 11/08/2011 10:06 AM, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: > Sorry, I hope that our discussions here are not considered as > criticism to the secretariat. At least mine are NOT. Well, on the one hand I tend to wonder how people became so *delicate*. On the other hand there may be people with health issues. I think the secretariat does a fantastic job with some really complicated logistics but occasionally stuff gets overlooked. Melinda From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Tue Nov 8 11:26:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A3021F84DC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:26:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.979 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.979 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.620, BAYES_00=-2.599, SARE_LWSHORTT=1.24] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yxcm4Km6LjVX for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [206.123.31.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7689A21F84D2 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from banana.viagenie.ca (modemcable002.122-37-24.mc.videotron.ca [24.37.122.2]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5825210FD for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:26:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EB9824F.3030708@viagenie.ca> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:26:07 -0500 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110428 Fedora/3.1.10-1.fc15 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> <4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:26:39 -0000 Lars Eggert wrote, on 11/08/2011 01:39 PM: > Folks, can we maybe trust the secretariat folks just a little a bit? They > have site selection criteria, and it's not exactly the first time they pick a > site for an IETF. It'll be OK. This reminds me of the hundred or so emails exchanged before the Maastricht meeting about the facts that it would be warm outside, the convention center had no AC, and thus we could expect to be super uncomfortable, borderline dying, from heat. It was logical then to complain about the lack of AC, to try to fix the short term problem by ingenious means, and in the long term site selection criteria should require AC when normal outside temperature exceeds a certain threshold. Oh how clever we were, engineering our way around a problem before we ever had to suffer from it! It turned out that they had some mysterious "not AC" technology that blasted freezing air from the back of the seats right into our faces. We were appropriately cooled. A hundred emails written for nothing. :) Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca From dan@danwing.org Tue Nov 8 13:02:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D852511E808E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:02:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12+Y-19xaeys for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:02:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rincewind.ksquared.net (rincewind.ksquared.net [216.129.106.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A2011E8085 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rincewind.ksquared.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A3DB12A6 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rincewind.ksquared.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rincewind.ksquared.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k0G1-W-ltqC7 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.107.106.204] (unknown [128.107.106.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dwing) by rincewind.ksquared.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B0D7B1281 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:02:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EB998E3.6030200@danwing.org> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:02:27 -0800 From: Dan Wing User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [82attendees] espresso X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:02:35 -0000 Has anyone found good espresso near the hotel? -d From bob.hinden@gmail.com Tue Nov 8 13:54:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 061B411E80F8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:54:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.492 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.492 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.107, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9QyFh6wZ8vaX for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9227F11E80CE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so1330033iae.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:54:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Hd8UtC+k9sH1dCIXELhCtU9r71vBHWGMvT8sOZ7Gcgs=; b=nYUrPXAN/VlOHiNBbP7mpr32QfAoCYPBX0glJHaNLpESZQWcteN+p7dyUbcV1fMhcj 3gYLPIB9yUXoNi+UWVEP4Wf7dPWaPpGV+o8drfT8jK7PxDGP74gSljN8dlz9M9zYmANj a40AVh+RZYQhdy1JgQPwzOG146Da+U/pJZlBg= Received: by 10.231.51.4 with SMTP id b4mr6433025ibg.99.1320789243189; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:54:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.16.224.217] ([209.97.127.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z10sm3774461ibv.9.2011.11.08.13.54.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Nov 2011 13:54:02 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <4EB998E3.6030200@danwing.org> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:54:01 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <82F99EAA-7F7E-49E2-B958-810013E89496@gmail.com> References: <4EB998E3.6030200@danwing.org> To: Dan Wing X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: Bob Hinden , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] espresso X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:54:05 -0000 The volunteer NOC team is starting to arrive on site, so I hope there = will be some reports soon! Bob On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Dan Wing wrote: > Has anyone found good espresso near the hotel? >=20 > -d > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com Tue Nov 8 14:22:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E0111E80B1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:22:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fzwSUeHnymmb for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-da02.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D100511E80AD for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (vaebh106.europe.nokia.com [10.160.244.32]) by mgw-da02.nokia.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pA8MLvgF012119 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 00:21:57 +0200 Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.25]) by vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 9 Nov 2011 00:21:52 +0200 Received: from 008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com ([169.254.6.167]) by 008-AM1MMR1-009.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.25]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.002; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 23:21:51 +0100 From: To: <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: bizarre foods in Taipei Thread-Index: AcyeY3fPCcqPRVxBSf+Iaz0c1wB0BQ== Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 22:21:50 +0000 Message-ID: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476158E49@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [63.133.138.150] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2011 22:21:52.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0D80D00:01CC9E64] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Subject: [82attendees] bizarre foods in Taipei X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:22:00 -0000 For those of us who like to taste unusual foods, the night market near the = Hyatt, under the house number 21, has a local restaurant which serves stink= y tofu, both fried and steamed. It's a stinky, interesting and cheap experi= ence.=20 I heard there are some aboriginal restaurants in the city serving ants and = bees, but I could not find them. Any local folks who could help finding one= ? -Gabor=20 From dan@danwing.org Tue Nov 8 14:58:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6781F0C76 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:58:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UmzJat5fY2MD for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rincewind.ksquared.net (rincewind.ksquared.net [216.129.106.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC63F1F0C6F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rincewind.ksquared.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4865BB1219; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from rincewind.ksquared.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rincewind.ksquared.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cEV1W+1tH1Ot; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.107.106.204] (unknown [128.107.106.204]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dwing) by rincewind.ksquared.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1A98B11A3; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:58:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EB9B406.2060306@danwing.org> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:58:14 -0800 From: Dan Wing User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476158E49@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476158E49@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] bizarre foods in Taipei X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:58:20 -0000 On 11/8/2011 2:21 PM, Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com wrote: > For those of us who like to taste unusual foods, the night market > near the Hyatt, under the house number 21, has a local restaurant > which serves stinky tofu, both fried and steamed. It's a stinky, > interesting and cheap experience. > > I heard there are some aboriginal restaurants in the city serving > ants and bees, but I could not find them. Any local folks who could > help finding one? http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Bizarre_Foods/Episodes_Travel_Guides/ci.Taiwan.map -d From chelliot@gmail.com Tue Nov 8 15:06:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C100621F84B2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:06:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SMUZctY9Kq+H for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:06:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B2B21F84AF for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so1021896eyg.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:06:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=pGgQl9/eIVI4MeEne194eGL/96NPSaJrdSH0pfAgDgo=; b=e4Hnx61R4VD41brLKZIBm+1I2428bl7ALzQ1ZUKb1sMwKhCZMhur7xEZK6q/o8A4JU 0JJZudR8Re/PB9ATv0yJbfAW6tof/v6gWcqZMbgsWCmj60VRHPFL1Mw5s/D+ZydgESjn ibNbru09pa4/Nq6uB1g1se9ktq3ZPCbNczNQI= Received: by 10.213.109.15 with SMTP id h15mr12258ebp.70.1320793600219; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 15:06:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chelliot@gmail.com Received: by 10.213.113.13 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:06:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EB9B406.2060306@danwing.org> References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476158E49@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <4EB9B406.2060306@danwing.org> From: Chris Elliott Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 18:06:19 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PGKOZ_cQAf47JBOncNG4dAUQ-LI Message-ID: To: Dan Wing Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com, 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] bizarre foods in Taipei X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: chelliot@pobox.com List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:06:43 -0000 On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Dan Wing wrote: > On 11/8/2011 2:21 PM, Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com wrote: >> >> For those of us who like to taste unusual foods, the night market >> near the Hyatt, under the house number 21, has a local restaurant >> which serves stinky tofu, both fried and steamed. It's a stinky, >> interesting and cheap experience. >> >> I heard there are some aboriginal restaurants in the city serving >> ants and bees, but I could not find them. Any local folks who could >> help finding one? > > http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Bizarre_Foods/Episodes_Travel_Guides/ci.Taiwan.map > > -d The breakfast at the Hyatt includes 1000-year eggs, and one of our advance party in September ate one and declared it good in Congee. We'll see if he repeats the experiment. > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > -- Chris Elliott chelliot@pobox.com From Tina.Tsou.Zouting@huawei.com Tue Nov 8 15:10:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDDD1F0C3F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:10:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.093 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.093 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.506, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HKfuWNceGOEF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga01-in.huawei.com (szxga01-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.64]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9A921F84C3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 15:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga05-in [172.24.2.49]) by szxga05-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LUD0036H713N8@szxga05-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:10:15 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxrg02-dlp.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga05-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LUD004G3712B9@szxga05-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:10:15 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxeml202-edg.china.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id AEV44727; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:10:14 +0800 Received: from SZXEML408-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.95) by szxeml202-edg.china.huawei.com (172.24.2.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.270.1; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:10:07 +0800 Received: from SZXEML526-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.7.40]) by szxeml408-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.95]) with mapi id 14.01.0270.001; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:10:04 +0800 Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:10:03 +0000 From: Tina TSOU In-reply-to: X-Originating-IP: [10.212.245.39] To: "chelliot@pobox.com" , Dan Wing Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en-US Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Thread-topic: [82attendees] bizarre foods in Taipei Thread-index: AcyeY3fPCcqPRVxBSf+Iaz0c1wB0Bf//hr4AgAACQoD//3mUYA== X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476158E49@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <4EB9B406.2060306@danwing.org> Cc: "Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] bizarre foods in Taipei X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:10:43 -0000 I think the 1000-year egg is Preserved Egg, not really 1000-year. It goes well with pork congee. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh/%25E7%259A%25AE%25E8%259B%258B&ei=Rra5TtnACcnd8QOL19mxBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%25E7%259A%25AE%25E8%259B%258B%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7ADRA_enUS404%26prmd%3Dimvnse Best Regards, Tina TSOU http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Chris Elliott Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 3:06 PM To: Dan Wing Cc: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com; 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] bizarre foods in Taipei On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Dan Wing wrote: > On 11/8/2011 2:21 PM, Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com wrote: >> >> For those of us who like to taste unusual foods, the night market >> near the Hyatt, under the house number 21, has a local restaurant >> which serves stinky tofu, both fried and steamed. It's a stinky, >> interesting and cheap experience. >> >> I heard there are some aboriginal restaurants in the city serving >> ants and bees, but I could not find them. Any local folks who could >> help finding one? > > http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/Bizarre_Foods/Episodes_Travel_Guides/ci.Taiwan.map > > -d The breakfast at the Hyatt includes 1000-year eggs, and one of our advance party in September ate one and declared it good in Congee. We'll see if he repeats the experiment. > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > -- Chris Elliott chelliot@pobox.com _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Tue Nov 8 19:55:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FC121F0C51 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:55:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.007 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.007 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.229, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JTkYPPQzNUR6 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5071F0C3B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pA93tPra076025 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 11:55:29 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?big5?B?pP2n1Kao?= To: <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <54F3CB59-EC9F-432E-90C9-92DD3D690A8E@live555.com> <4EB94D40.8080201@voipfuture.com> <4EB96E3A.2070805@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EB96E3A.2070805@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 11:54:49 +0800 Message-ID: <005b01cc9e93$56355a60$02a00f20$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcyeQFbnmp+Ej7r1Rhe56HzSa5M19wAUjnQA Content-language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pA93tPra076025 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where was this photo (of Taipei) taken? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:55:37 -0000 Yes. This is from the six giant stone at the Elephant Mountain, which is also one of the Four Beast Mountain Group. The entrance of the hiking path is just 1.5km from the TICC. And it take about 20-30 minutes to go to the photo point start from the entrance. It is a famous photo spot in Taipei City. Here is a Chinese Blog of the night view. http://lfat.pixnet.net/blog/post/25835332-%5B%E5%8F%B0%E5%8C%97%5D%E6%8B%94% E8%BE%A3%E5%88%B0%E4%B8%8D%E8%A1%8C%E7%9A%84%E8%B1%A1%E5%B1%B1%E5%A4%9C%E6%8 B%8D%E5%8F%B0%E5%8C%97101 Reen-Cheng Wang -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tomek Mrugalski Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:00 AM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where was this photo (of Taipei) taken? On 08.11.2011 16:39, Hendrik Scholz wrote: > On 11/08/2011 04:30 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >> http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6108/6308873748_461641ccec_b.jpg > > I'm no local but should be 'Elephant Mountain' based on Google and > Flickr. > http://taiwan-photography-blog.com/2009/05/15/hiking-four-beasts-eleph > ant-mountain/ > > Count me in if you are going on a trip ;-) +1 Tomek _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From vinayakh@gmail.com Tue Nov 8 21:32:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FE611E8096 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 21:32:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.300, BAYES_50=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DFSHneac9U0Q for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 21:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F7F11E80D9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 21:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5so1351797vws.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:32:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uWSjcCGjHv8hKEMtaotyBLphXMymWjqImub/n+7xQHI=; b=Xxra4W+ZbFRXXmBWbF4y05TAN6Q5FlVopHFwmwZhfdURktt+MbZuKw1kTdLKCgcE+g ku5EE6XU1vz2H9AAYu29+2oZMnptWxjq6Qa/+9H2VWK8XBzjGicmqqcRBJVjFJGwCf3e 90To3w2t2qD0Y3BVE8M/cQyZQ4movmXo0ko+8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.28.200 with SMTP id d8mr1719132vdh.56.1320816720191; Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.156.226 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Nov 2011 21:32:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 11:02:00 +0530 Message-ID: From: Vinayak Hegde To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [82attendees] Taiwan MRT card and Easycard usage X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 05:32:02 -0000 It seems the Taiwan MRT is pretty extensive and cheap. The Easy card seems like a good way to get around Taiwan. The easy card can apparently be used in restaurants just like a credit card. Is it a good practical AND economical way to get around the city and pay for meals ? Where can I buy and reload these ? Last but not the least, can any local tell the places that you can do siteseeing using just the subway/metro system. References: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyCard http://www.easycard.com.tw/english/use/index.asp Thanks in advance Vinayak From olaf@NLnetLabs.nl Wed Nov 9 01:02:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E71B621F8AFA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 01:02:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.445 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.445 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.154, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GjK0DPuZtL-J for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 01:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from open.nlnetlabs.nl (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CC821F8B10 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 01:02:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-83.nlnetlabs.nl (dhcp-83.nlnetlabs.nl [213.154.224.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by open.nlnetlabs.nl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA992V6D070449 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Nov 2011 10:02:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olaf@NLnetLabs.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_349EA15C-4787-4168-A475-03E30753FB9E"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Olaf Kolkman In-Reply-To: <4EB998E3.6030200@danwing.org> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 10:02:32 +0100 Message-Id: <2DEF1C91-142F-4CCA-ABC8-281E16963D40@NLnetLabs.nl> References: <4EB998E3.6030200@danwing.org> To: Dan Wing X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (open.nlnetlabs.nl [213.154.224.1]); Wed, 09 Nov 2011 10:02:31 +0100 (CET) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] espresso X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 09:02:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_349EA15C-4787-4168-A475-03E30753FB9E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:02 PM, Dan Wing wrote: > Has anyone found good espresso near the hotel? http://www.handpresso.com/ I know somebody who has this neat device... It performs well. It might = be the tool of choice for the real addicts. (I am interested in nearby locations too) ________________________________________________________=20 Olaf M. 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boundary="Apple-Mail=_C7468C0A-ED6B-4A3F-9931-27E0F35003D0"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Olaf Kolkman In-Reply-To: <188D7750-B58A-4036-8C96-85988E5FEE43@NLnetLabs.nl> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 10:19:17 +0100 Message-Id: <6D82E678-5F7C-467D-A419-162FD2204804@NLnetLabs.nl> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D21391A448C6435@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> <188D7750-B58A-4036-8C96-85988E5FEE43@NLnetLabs.nl> To: Jakob Heitz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (open.nlnetlabs.nl [213.154.224.1]); Wed, 09 Nov 2011 10:19:25 +0100 (CET) Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Paul Kyzivat Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 09:19:31 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C7468C0A-ED6B-4A3F-9931-27E0F35003D0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 8, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: >=20 > On Nov 7, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Jakob Heitz wrote: >=20 >> That means "Taipei Hyatt big Hotel" >> You can find it on their website >> http://taipei.grand.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp?language=3Dzh-Hant= >>=20 >=20 >=20 > For your convenience: > http://www.secret-wg.org/taxi-card.pdf Today I received a 'real' taxi card from the Hotel. http://www.secret-wg.org/taxi-card.jpg I modified the link on the meeting wiki = (http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf82) --Olaf ________________________________________________________=20 Olaf M. 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Wed, 9 Nov 2011 01:36:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 07AoiHvMLpnG for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 01:36:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (vimes.kumari.net [198.186.192.250]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C42A21F848D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 01:36:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.0.184] (unknown [130.129.0.184]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A6091B40180; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:36:23 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:36:21 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> To: Ben Campbell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: =?utf-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= , Mary Barnes , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 09:36:27 -0000 On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: >=20 > On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Mary Barnes wrote: >=20 >> [MB] Is the hotel considered a business? If so, this will be an >> incredibly miserable meeting for some of us, who prefer lower >> temperatures for optimal sleeping (the general recommendation for = such >> is 65-72 F, 18-22 C). While the outdoor temp may be 20-25, it is >> quite usual for the indoor temperature to be higher, in particular if >> there are no windows to be opened in the sleeping rooms. >=20 > This seems to indicate the actual hotel rooms (sleeping rooms, not = meeting rooms) are exempt. Hopefully we will have control over our room = thermostats just like in most other hotels. Yup, it is, and I can confirm that (in my room at least) the A/C works, = and works well=85 W >=20 > = http://english.dep.taipei.gov.tw/ct.asp?xItem=3D1979271&ctNode=3D22971&mp=3D= 105002 >=20 > (Credit to Adam for finding that link) >=20 > Ben. > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 From olaf@NLnetLabs.nl Wed Nov 9 01:55:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E179021F8B89 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 01:55:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.489 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.489 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.110, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F9evTcF60CGZ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 01:55:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from open.nlnetlabs.nl (open.nlnetlabs.nl [IPv6:2001:7b8:206:1::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2346A21F8B75 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 01:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-83.nlnetlabs.nl (dhcp-83.nlnetlabs.nl [213.154.224.83]) (authenticated bits=0) by open.nlnetlabs.nl (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pA99tV72035449 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 9 Nov 2011 10:55:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olaf@NLnetLabs.nl) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_838DA1E8-4D3F-47E1-98EE-2E38921B664D"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Olaf Kolkman In-Reply-To: <4EB9824F.3030708@viagenie.ca> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 10:55:31 +0100 Message-Id: References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> <4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> <4EB9824F.3030708@viagenie.ca> To: Simon Perreault X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (open.nlnetlabs.nl [213.154.224.1]); Wed, 09 Nov 2011 10:55:32 +0100 (CET) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] A hundred mails was Re: Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 09:55:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_838DA1E8-4D3F-47E1-98EE-2E38921B664D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > A hundred emails written for nothing. 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Thread-Index: Acye2EC7tl1tc4u9Spy6CjMYdE1WhA== Message-ID: <30EF0AFD-107B-4D2F-825A-922B2DB6D21D@juniper.net> References: <54F3CB59-EC9F-432E-90C9-92DD3D690A8E@live555.com> <4EB94D40.8080201@voipfuture.com> <4EB96E3A.2070805@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EB96E3A.2070805@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where was this photo (of Taipei) taken? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:14:15 -0000 +1 Alain. Sent from my iPad On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:00 PM, "Tomek Mrugalski" = wrote: > On 08.11.2011 16:39, Hendrik Scholz wrote: >> On 11/08/2011 04:30 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>> http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6108/6308873748_461641ccec_b.jpg >>=20 >> I'm no local but should be 'Elephant Mountain' based on Google and >> Flickr. >> http://taiwan-photography-blog.com/2009/05/15/hiking-four-beasts-elephan= t-mountain/ >>=20 >> Count me in if you are going on a trip ;-) > +1 >=20 > Tomek > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From richard.barnes@gmail.com Wed Nov 9 04:35:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A66221F8C76 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:35:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GYhz+GRETcK5 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:35:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB0721F8C75 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so1594758eyg.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:35:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XLrg1o/4AfLGxu/yu0IutzZEP4ENzYhpOC58agWix8M=; b=Euiw/edgf68id1Q3RSsFfX76ZnrjLrTVlEetwyzOWL8+73TGJ+eoSKle1i+KCkhH6n GC0SmChujqiFo06JbK6Q3QM4EuY4z0l1UNky8Uh1P+4WdEjI+K7HMN3+9vTOHXuXgrVk FfGnn3ffdmdOF0DvVCS74TUH94ssgAaI1/cO0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.16.226 with SMTP id h74mr162012eeh.240.1320842102518; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:35:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.185.144 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:35:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> <4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> <4EB9824F.3030708@viagenie.ca> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 13:35:02 +0100 Message-ID: From: Richard Barnes To: Olaf Kolkman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Simon Perreault , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] A hundred mails was Re: Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:35:05 -0000 Olaf, I can't believe you're challenging the necessity of these discussions The IETF is a critical Internet institution, and it's very important that its meetings be as accessible as possible for as many attendees as possible, to ensure that the open, bottom-up, multi-stakeholder process really is all those things and that the Internet continues to be as great as we have known it to be. If that means that we have to spend a few hours every day reading emails that speculate about weather patterns in foreign countries or whether taxi drivers will speak English, then, well, that's a sacrifice we should all be willing to make. I hope next time you feel the urge to comment on this list, you can do so a little more productively. --Richard On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: > > >> =A0A hundred emails written for nothing. > > That happened before in IETF context. > > > --Olaf > > [Changed subject in the hope that a polemic will develop and the mail-cou= nt on this senseless subthread (about 100 mails) will reach a record.] > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > From vinayakh@gmail.com Wed Nov 9 04:45:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DBA21F8C78 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:45:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.332 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.332 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.267, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g+c7dRV279Y4 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:45:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B1F521F8C76 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:45:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1so1527521vcb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:45:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9CthxSbEm6hYh1QTdVDCI8+CfYpNuu2N7yiZuTHIXXw=; b=oWNAQB+td2e0AmE26KFp9yEdtJE7ZMfxiNmW1qhF+hH7SgfT1SSoiTi2J6m3hv1K5Z bIz3+eLDPbJIlRxMNCLByUxffDcwdtZIM45Th+6FENgqx2lrmg+T+yinF0noiPz9uwEc kc48Ago1UB3JavSq4TvX+6qBatIkRn+bYb/BY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.65.16 with SMTP id t16mr4370034vds.22.1320842713185; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 04:45:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.156.226 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:45:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <30EF0AFD-107B-4D2F-825A-922B2DB6D21D@juniper.net> References: <54F3CB59-EC9F-432E-90C9-92DD3D690A8E@live555.com> <4EB94D40.8080201@voipfuture.com> <4EB96E3A.2070805@gmail.com> <30EF0AFD-107B-4D2F-825A-922B2DB6D21D@juniper.net> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 18:15:13 +0530 Message-ID: From: Vinayak Hegde To: Alain Durand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Tomek Mrugalski , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where was this photo (of Taipei) taken? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:45:19 -0000 +1 -- Vinayak On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Alain Durand wrote: > +1 > > Alain. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:00 PM, "Tomek Mrugalski" wrote: > >> On 08.11.2011 16:39, Hendrik Scholz wrote: >>> On 11/08/2011 04:30 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>> http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6108/6308873748_461641ccec_b.jpg >>> >>> I'm no local but should be 'Elephant Mountain' based on Google and >>> Flickr. >>> http://taiwan-photography-blog.com/2009/05/15/hiking-four-beasts-elephant-mountain/ >>> >>> Count me in if you are going on a trip ;-) >> +1 >> >> Tomek >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From bertietf@bwijnen.net Wed Nov 9 04:58:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8040621F8C19 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:58:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.537 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.537 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.062, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6mwR6qIFnRhg for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:58:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from postlady.ripe.net (postlady.ipv6.ripe.net [IPv6:2001:67c:2e8:11::c100:1341]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C8D21F8B35 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 04:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dodo.ripe.net ([193.0.23.4]) by postlady.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RO7j9-0008Ga-Qo for 82attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:58:05 +0100 Received: from dog.ripe.net ([193.0.1.217] helo=BWMACBOOK.local) by dodo.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RO7j9-0007KU-Ki for 82attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:58:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4EBA78DB.3080202@bwijnen.net> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:58:03 +0100 From: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <54F3CB59-EC9F-432E-90C9-92DD3D690A8E@live555.com> <4EB94D40.8080201@voipfuture.com> <4EB96E3A.2070805@gmail.com> <30EF0AFD-107B-4D2F-825A-922B2DB6D21D@juniper.net> In-Reply-To: <30EF0AFD-107B-4D2F-825A-922B2DB6D21D@juniper.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.9 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd456491deb5eaea50cb37a838c86247ae9 Subject: [82attendees] NT$ notes from the year 2000 still valid? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:58:08 -0000 Hi, maybe someone from the locals may know. I still have some bills/banknotes of NT$ that I got in Taiwan early in the year 2000. That was my last (and in fact also first) visit to Taiwan. Are these still valid/accepted? Thanks, Bert Wijnen From cabo@tzi.org Wed Nov 9 05:09:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92A921F8C4F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 05:09:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.269 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.269 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.880, BAYES_20=-0.74, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bUefdxZqHWz9 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 05:09:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D4521F8AF9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 05:09:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pA9D9FZD007107; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 14:09:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (reingewinn.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.218.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 651654BB; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 14:09:15 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <4EBA78DB.3080202@bwijnen.net> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 14:09:17 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <54F3CB59-EC9F-432E-90C9-92DD3D690A8E@live555.com> <4EB94D40.8080201@voipfuture.com> <4EB96E3A.2070805@gmail.com> <30EF0AFD-107B-4D2F-825A-922B2DB6D21D@juniper.net> <4EBA78DB.3080202@bwijnen.net> To: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] NT$ notes from the year 2000 still valid? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:09:31 -0000 On Nov 9, 2011, at 13:58, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: > Hi, maybe someone from the locals may know. >=20 > I still have some bills/banknotes of NT$ that I got > in Taiwan early in the year 2000. That was my last > (and in fact also first) visit to Taiwan. >=20 > Are these still valid/accepted? If they show Chiang-Kai-Chek, probably not; those became invalid in = 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Taiwan_dollar#Banknotes http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/817812.stm Maybe we can pool our old notes and get someone to drive to Bank of = Taiwan and exchange the whole stack into current notes=85 Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten From randy@psg.com Wed Nov 9 06:56:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C397621F84AA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 06:56:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5YdBLFQQkyAu for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 06:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AAA21F84A3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 06:56:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RO9Zs-000Bvr-K5; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:56:36 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:56:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Richard Barnes In-Reply-To: References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> <4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> <4EB9824F.3030708@viagenie.ca> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Olaf Kolkman , Simon Perreault , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] A hundred mails was Re: Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:56:41 -0000 > I can't believe you're challenging the necessity of these discussions > The IETF is a critical Internet institution, and it's very important > that its meetings be as accessible as possible for as many attendees > as possible, to ensure that the open, bottom-up, multi-stakeholder > process really is all those things and that the Internet continues to > be as great as we have known it to be. If that means that we have to > spend a few hours every day reading emails that speculate about > weather patterns in foreign countries or whether taxi drivers will > speak English, then, well, that's a sacrifice we should all be willing > to make. I hope next time you feel the urge to comment on this list, > you can do so a little more productively. >=20 >>> =A0A hundred emails written for nothing. >> >> That happened before in IETF context. i gotta say that, after slogging through three obscure debug issues, mail from someone who wants to argue about plane schedules, etc. i come to this list to some amusement and to watch people being trivially silly and human. i am almost always rewarded. randy, heading back to the crap From mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com Wed Nov 9 07:06:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C9621F8591 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:06:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.106 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.106 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.493, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 74JMxMGMSz54 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7554921F858D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1so1676372vcb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:06:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+rd049XRMpbPbht5slASvZe/gwPmQ3N+56msilRXBNI=; b=fL1jYZE1/LfLTtaH4XgRbrC9jQzoJTBnEttG/gCmqx7S/HQm6SueL8a+zCCPq9FRKQ AmZSRxDGmwOWp04S0TlLw3kV7g0HyVRK44AERliu7o2bk7fEocS/jZQEYs4TzcymPBQ2 TNu3RM5CMZAPop6b6Gcbstgr2Ishsel/U1FtM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.97.35 with SMTP id dx3mr5304990vdb.2.1320851193940; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 07:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:06:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <115DD632-EBF6-409A-ADC0-ADD7F469ED7F@tzi.org> <003201cc9e15$e083fd30$a18bf790$@edu.tw> <4EB92C84.1060709@bwijnen.net> <3AB8CA1D-BF7B-4BCE-A3FD-D140A38A1948@wierenga.net> <4EB972D4.9050705@ogud.com> <4EB9824F.3030708@viagenie.ca> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 09:06:33 -0600 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Olaf Kolkman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Simon Perreault , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] A hundred mails was Re: Walking in the rain X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:06:35 -0000 Olaf, You've actually highlighted yet another quirk of IETFers. Folks that really don't care about a topic complaining about others discussing it when all that you need to do is delete the emails when you don't care about a topic. For some of us that are far more sensitive to weather and temperature changes (for medical reasons in some cases) this is a quite relevant topic. If it doesn't apply to you, then please don't read or respond to the emails. Regards, Mary. On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: > > >> =A0A hundred emails written for nothing. > > That happened before in IETF context. > > > --Olaf > > [Changed subject in the hope that a polemic will develop and the mail-cou= nt on this senseless subthread (about 100 mails) will reach a record.] > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > From KT@itsc.cuhk.edu.hk Wed Nov 9 07:50:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B90C21F8C8E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:50:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.301 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-3.566, BAYES_40=-0.185, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qbm8oxRrn5Hb for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk (serverf-itsc.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk [137.189.28.132]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AD521F8C8D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:50:12 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 23:50:10 +0800 Message-ID: <20663E71FC2D1A4F93B14C99CA81D89002FDA89C@EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] NT$ notes from the year 2000 still valid? Thread-Index: Acye4NdO6ycwNXXATG2yOb1sKZb/JgAFC52s References: <54F3CB59-EC9F-432E-90C9-92DD3D690A8E@live555.com><4EB94D40.8080201@voipfuture.com> <4EB96E3A.2070805@gmail.com><30EF0AFD-107B-4D2F-825A-922B2DB6D21D@juniper.net><4EBA78DB.3080202@bwijnen.net> From: "KT So (ITSC)" To: "Carsten Bormann" , "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] NT$ notes from the year 2000 still valid? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:50:18 -0000 There are a few Bank of Taiwan branches in the airport. There is also = one in Taipei's World Trade Center (Room 301, International Trade = Building, 333 Keelung Road Section 1) which is next to TICC. =20 Regards, Alan KT So ________________________________ From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org =A5N=B2z Carsten Bormann Sent: 2011/11/9 [=ACP=B4=C1=A4T] =A4U=A4=C8 09:09 To: Bert Wijnen (IETF) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] NT$ notes from the year 2000 still valid? On Nov 9, 2011, at 13:58, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: > Hi, maybe someone from the locals may know. > > I still have some bills/banknotes of NT$ that I got > in Taiwan early in the year 2000. That was my last > (and in fact also first) visit to Taiwan. > > Are these still valid/accepted? If they show Chiang-Kai-Chek, probably not; those became invalid in = 2007. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Taiwan_dollar#Banknotes http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/817812.stm Maybe we can pool our old notes and get someone to drive to Bank of = Taiwan and exchange the whole stack into current notes=A1K Gruse, Carsten _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From Thomas.Nadeau@ca.com Wed Nov 9 15:15:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83BD911E809C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 15:15:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hGcB-EZRLr+s for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 15:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from na3sys009aog107.obsmtp.com (na3sys009aog107.obsmtp.com [74.125.149.197]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8856311E809A for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 15:15:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from USILMS191.ca.com ([141.202.246.45]) (using TLSv1) by na3sys009aob107.postini.com ([74.125.148.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTrsJnAWsk+pfRz922/6SLFLVqkJPwB2t@postini.com; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 15:15:48 PST Received: from USILMS171.ca.com (141.202.6.21) by USILMS191.ca.com (141.202.246.45) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.289.1; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 18:15:39 -0500 Received: from USILMS111B.ca.com ([169.254.8.239]) by USILMS171.ca.com ([141.202.6.21]) with mapi id 14.01.0289.001; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 18:15:39 -0500 From: "Nadeau, Thomas D" To: Bob Hinden , Dan Wing Thread-Topic: [82attendees] espresso Thread-Index: AQHMnlm//8nnz1ybQUu1BD/SSBnJFpWj2PeAgAIvPYA= Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 23:15:38 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <82F99EAA-7F7E-49E2-B958-810013E89496@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 x-originating-ip: [58.64.222.6] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <38AC8225112617479372B48CD661E5DE@ca.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] espresso X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:15:49 -0000 Wait for the recon from Randy. He always finds the best espresso joints near by. 8) --Tom On 11/8/11 4:54 PM, "Bob Hinden" wrote: >The volunteer NOC team is starting to arrive on site, so I hope there >will be some reports soon! > >Bob > >On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Dan Wing wrote: > >> Has anyone found good espresso near the hotel? >>=20 >> -d >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > >_______________________________________________ >82attendees mailing list >82attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From sergem913@gmail.com Wed Nov 9 19:54:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D0911E8098 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 19:54:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.541 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.541 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mg27QY9T13mt for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 19:54:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763CA11E8088 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 19:54:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by faas12 with SMTP id s12so2793954faa.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:54:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=SfHgP8aZ2g7kOUl8OIAVRcmOGB9WbUc/ZjVTqIOcBgQ=; b=XQFfWpt3UzKdM/QQYrs+yaCSXN3GrijV8DbQ7fvKNF14PwndG9J0eS2dfrbdXfnLWw ws3NuimiAbKZmPFmPT7mmCSNCSKhM1EvrmW1+iBj8PfPGn4X/Ju5Nebbp7L+KHaM0xVP 0Rsw/QTvAUXy/qcIJfqRAiu0YMz50krd4wt9w= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.0.138 with SMTP id 10mr3497555lae.3.1320897266577; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.152.12.35 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 19:54:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120BBA3C@dfweml506-mbx> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120BBA3C@dfweml506-mbx> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 21:54:26 -0600 Message-ID: From: Serge Manning To: Linda Dunbar Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5485a6e5bf15504b1595c93 Cc: Gregory Mirsky , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Paul Kyzivat Subject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don't speak Chinese X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 03:54:28 -0000 --bcaec5485a6e5bf15504b1595c93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On my iPhone...you can do some translations ahead of time and "star" them. Then, they are available when you are offline. I just tried it and not only is the text saved for starred items, but also the audio clip! All offline, amazing. Just need to capture useful phrases ahead of time while you have a data connection. On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Linda Dunbar wrote: > > If you have a smart phone, use Google translate. It even has voice > recognition. So you just need to say "where is the taxi stand", it > translates immediately to Chinese both in words and sound. > > I wish that someone can make a small device doing this job which doesn't > need internet connection. Then traveling in foreign countries becomes > really easy. > > Linda > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > -- --Serge --bcaec5485a6e5bf15504b1595c93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On my iPhone...you can do some translations ahead of time and "star&qu= ot; them. Then, they are available when you are offline. I just tried it an= d not only is the text saved for starred items, but also the audio clip! Al= l offline, amazing. Just need to capture useful phrases ahead of time while= you have a data connection.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Linda Dunbar= <linda.dun= bar@huawei.com> wrote:

If you have a smart phone, use Google translate. It even has voice recognit= ion. So you just need to say "where is the taxi stand", it transl= ates immediately to Chinese both in words and sound.

I wish that someone can make a small device doing this job which doesn'= t need internet connection. Then traveling in foreign countries becomes rea= lly easy.

Linda
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Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:06:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qEHdZNtsvIX7 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B4411E8097 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RONm5-000DqE-33; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:06:09 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:06:07 +0100 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: "Nadeau, Thomas D" In-Reply-To: References: <82F99EAA-7F7E-49E2-B958-810013E89496@gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] espresso X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:06:11 -0000 > Wait for the recon from Randy. He always finds the best espresso joints > near by. 8) dan is doing the research and leading the search. best pointer he has sent so far is http://www.home-barista.com/cafes/espresso-adventures-in-far-east-t5606-20.html but it is not clear what the geography is. randy From msk@cloudmark.com Wed Nov 9 22:30:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB55C11E80B2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:30:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.303 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.303 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.295, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OpylrjhJeXqA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ht1-outbound.cloudmark.com (ht1-outbound.cloudmark.com [72.5.239.35]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647E311E80B0 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXCH-C2.corp.cloudmark.com ([172.22.1.74]) by malice.corp.cloudmark.com ([172.22.10.71]) with mapi; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:30:36 -0800 From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:30:36 -0800 Thread-Topic: First request for social ticket Thread-Index: AcyfckF6fU+8poowROGDNyispkawbw== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F5833273385BB34F99288B3648C4F06F19C6C14F69EXCHC2corpclo_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [82attendees] First request for social ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:30:40 -0000 --_000_F5833273385BB34F99288B3648C4F06F19C6C14F69EXCHC2corpclo_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I managed to forget to order a ticket for the social when I was booking eve= rything, and now it's all sold out. So, I get to be the first: If anyone has a social ticket to sell, please co= ntact me. Thanks, -MSK --_000_F5833273385BB34F99288B3648C4F06F19C6C14F69EXCHC2corpclo_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I managed to for= get to order a ticket for the social when I was booking everything, and now= it’s all sold out.


So, I get = to be the first: If anyone has a social ticket to sell, please contact me.<= o:p>

 

Thanks,

-MSK

= --_000_F5833273385BB34F99288B3648C4F06F19C6C14F69EXCHC2corpclo_-- From marshall.eubanks@gmail.com Wed Nov 9 22:33:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B72221F8569 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:33:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.473 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.473 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.126, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yio7EyHkjsSS for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F2421F853A for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywt34 with SMTP id 34so387726ywt.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:33:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yaGc1eJ1vg/ALgXrLbhMgT0Rqpxvu/I2ebL+jPiu/W8=; b=dIRYlWIz5c3DKMmfdxhpvFG8bBGk5ZJhzQQDV+xmSww247bNS46rGPBgvqXO4+jGYf 1YUZOCuz0Wp6OPk8q6kB5v2eDc+ogUC6G/5zMvS/hewFdstR+VJeHpuP3TuPffHh2RdR 9qTqV1cXgJcZi6Eultr+wWU39b2w8lQb+IxR4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.77.196 with SMTP id u4mr1582825obw.19.1320906788023; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:33:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.159.73 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:33:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:33:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Marshall Eubanks To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] First request for social ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:33:09 -0000 On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:30 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wr= ote: > I managed to forget to order a ticket for the social when I was booking > everything, and now it=92s all sold out. > > So, I get to be the first: If anyone has a social ticket to sell, please > contact me. > More like the ninth - see the wiki. http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/82socialtix?do=3Dlogin&se= ctok=3Df836f3933ff44c21140ca15e14620850 Regards Marshall > > Thanks, > > -MSK > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > From msk@cloudmark.com Wed Nov 9 22:36:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2577A21F863E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:36:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.806 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.806 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.207, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M+sTIGAvTp2p for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ht2-outbound.cloudmark.com (ht2-outbound.cloudmark.com [72.5.239.36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A3EE11E80A4 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:36:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXCH-C2.corp.cloudmark.com ([172.22.1.74]) by spite.corp.cloudmark.com ([172.22.10.72]) with mapi; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:36:44 -0800 From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 22:36:43 -0800 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] First request for social ticket Thread-Index: AcyfcpyoNtKhCDVmRsWDDL7i/j8Q2gAAGx9Q Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] First request for social ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:36:46 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:marshall.eubanks@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:33 PM > To: Murray S. Kucherawy > Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] First request for social ticket >=20 > More like the ninth - see the wiki. >=20 > http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/82socialtix?do=3Dlogin& > sectok=3Df836f3933ff44c21140ca15e14620850 Got it, thanks. (I looked but couldn't find other email about it. Must be in some other fo= lder.) From denghui02@gmail.com Wed Nov 9 23:12:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84F911E8098 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 23:12:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M9QJT7CP6zTH for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 23:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3497311E8088 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 23:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by yenl7 with SMTP id l7so1936082yen.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:12:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nqcZ9tEBnecIO3woB0o7RS/34z+YnUzMmo8u6lW1LVk=; b=d2J4gFf+sXM0bkedscUs/8m5jZs7M820oKPvpYG5iY7indYtZaIjnDgTHgPu/lSkoK 9a56vmIFVn3Yb15DCPHPl6YtO+vlIg7jfL3BONx4vj5WTrCh1DOGgZwiNYsSI1fMScxm CpQBdZ4jIv9CwWsdBAbol2Uf96XYm0Sv10aKY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.161.9 with SMTP id n9mr2719421yao.23.1320909149865; Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:12:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.146.84.10 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Nov 2011 23:12:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:12:29 +0800 Message-ID: From: Hui Deng To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd39892a8857004b15c2085 Subject: [82attendees] social ticket want name list X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:12:31 -0000 --000e0cd39892a8857004b15c2085 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello all, I remember I am the No.3 puting my name for waiting for social ticket, but it looks like I am no. 5-6 or so now, Just wondering when people edit a new name, they are not put their name from the bottom? -Hui --000e0cd39892a8857004b15c2085 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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[216.67.70.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm21430355anc.14.2011.11.09.23.16.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:16:02 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EBB7A30.303@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:16:00 -0900 From: Melinda Shore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] social ticket want name list X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:16:04 -0000 On 11/9/11 10:12 PM, Hui Deng wrote: > Hello all, > I remember I am the No.3 puting my name for waiting for social ticket, > but it looks like I am no. 5-6 or so now, I was second and have been bumped down to fourth. I like to think that people were just a little careless about editing. Melinda From leaf.y.yeh@huawei.com Thu Nov 10 00:11:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5FF11E80BD for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:11:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.576 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.576 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.023, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ll4anH-0fPjP for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:11:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga01-in.huawei.com (szxga01-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.64]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1371F0C41 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga05-in [172.24.2.49]) by szxga05-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LUF00I9SQLDVT@szxga05-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:08:01 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxrg01-dlp.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga05-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LUF00JQ4QLBWV@szxga05-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:08:01 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxeml208-edg.china.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id AEX87501; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:07:46 +0800 Received: from SZXEML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.35) by szxeml208-edg.china.huawei.com (172.24.2.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.270.1; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:07:39 +0800 Received: from SZXEML510-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.8.62]) by szxeml403-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.35]) with mapi id 14.01.0270.001; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:07:37 +0800 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:07:36 +0000 From: Leaf yeh In-reply-to: <20111108031615.GU73147@shinkuro.com> X-Originating-IP: [10.70.39.98] To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-language: zh-CN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Thread-topic: [82attendees] Social ticket Thread-index: AQHMna0TbuL3VzQIgkCBW9qiceCPuJWiNMGA//+TVICAA/PkcA== X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected References: <20111108031615.GU73147@shinkuro.com> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Social ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:11:23 -0000 If the order of the email address on the below wiki link sounds important, I guess this email thread could works fine enough. Regards, Leaf -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:16 AM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Social ticket I'd also like one. I added a section to the wiki to co-ordinate this in the vain hope that it would be a good idea. http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/82socialtix. Note that I did not add the two people who already posted, because I didn't know whether their request was resolved. Best, A On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 01:47:56AM +0000, Leaf yeh wrote: > If possible, I also want one. > > > Best Regards, > Leaf > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks > Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 8:26 AM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Social ticket > > If anyone has a social ticket available, I would be interested. > > Regards > Marshall > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Thu Nov 10 00:17:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABE41F0C4A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:17:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7lDbpS3MYBkT for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252511F0C3F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (localhost.ecs.soton.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAA8HZBx018455 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:17:35 GMT X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk pAA8HZBx018455 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=ecs.soton.ac.uk; s=200903; t=1320913055; bh=9v7Ijs49EZPB01fT70vp5VAoE0g=; h=From:Subject:Date:To:Mime-Version:References; b=RRQ/bwZ0ENzjDmE+9cai9zg4KuwwYPEyYZQu3M/ijJhK26wbNAAWB+bVtuWYmKMj1 MyEayEgzUmWdzcmZgkbC0FBMoulG1Ne/DW20Bjp6rXlmFydE9qHJI5YCBNWANptNg7 xbCbH473akazKaiPNiuIYFLGh3a8jKfPwlWoOkXU= Received: from gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102::25d]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) envelope-from with ESMTP id nA98HZ05437290621I ret-id none; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:17:35 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (host213-123-213-183.in-addr.btopenworld.com [213.123.213.183]) (authenticated bits=0) by gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAA8HVnx002772 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:17:32 GMT From: Tim Chown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:17:30 +0000 Message-ID: To: attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-smtpf-Report: sid=nA98HZ054372906200; tid=nA98HZ05437290621I; client=relay,ipv6; mail=; rcpt=; nrcpt=1:0; fails=0 References: X-ECS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ECS-MailScanner-ID: pAA8HZBx018455 X-ECS-MailScanner-From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Subject: [82attendees] Hyatt bookings transferable in event of cancellations? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 08:17:42 -0000 Hi, There's a possibility I may need to cancel my Hyatt booking. I have just noted that at this stage the hotel now charges a full fee in = the event of a cancellation (a bit different to most US hotels!). Has anyone been able to transfer a reservation? I will call the hotel = if I do need to cancel, but interested if anyone has already been able = to transfer their booking onto another IETFer. 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On Nov 10, 2011 5:39 AM, "Jakob Heitz" wrote: > Often, a single words enough. BUT it's never a word you wrote down. A > dictionary is the best way. Pleco is a great dictionary with lots of > features to search, learn, write, read. > > -- > Jakob Heitz. x25475. 510-566-2901 > > > On Nov 9, 2011, at 7:54 PM, "Serge Manning" sergem913@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On my iPhone...you can do some translations ahead of time and "star" them. > Then, they are available when you are offline. I just tried it and not only > is the text saved for starred items, but also the audio clip! All offline, > amazing. Just need to capture useful phrases ahead of time while you have a > data connection. > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Linda Dunbar > wrote: > > If you have a smart phone, use Google translate. It even has voice > recognition. So you just need to say "where is the taxi stand", it > translates immediately to Chinese both in words and sound. > > I wish that someone can make a small device doing this job which doesn't > need internet connection. Then traveling in foreign countries becomes > really easy. > > Linda > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > > -- > --Serge > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > --00151773d99e8c8faf04b15d3ce0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Are pay-per-use sim cards with data easily available in Taiwan?

/Serge on mobile phone.

On Nov 10, 2011 5:39 AM, "Jakob Heitz"= <jakob.heitz@ericsson.com> wrote:
Often, a single words enough. BUT it's never a word you wrote down. A d= ictionary is the best way. Pleco is a great dictionary with lots of feature= s to search, learn, write, read.

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Jakob Heitz. x25475. 510-566-2901


On Nov 9, 2011, at 7:54 PM, "Serge Manning" <sergem913@gmail.com<mailto:sergem913@gmail.com>> wrote:

On my iPhone...you can do some translations ahead of time and "star&qu= ot; them. Then, they are available when you are offline. I just tried it an= d not only is the text saved for starred items, but also the audio clip! Al= l offline, amazing. Just need to capture useful phrases ahead of time while= you have a data connection.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com<mailto:linda.dunbar@huawei.com>> wrote:

If you have a smart phone, use Google translate. It even has voice recognit= ion. So you just need to say "where is the taxi stand", it transl= ates immediately to Chinese both in words and sound.

I wish that someone can make a small device doing this job which doesn'= t need internet connection. Then traveling in foreign countries becomes rea= lly easy.

Linda
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--00151773d99e8c8faf04b15d3ce0-- From abelyang@twnic.net.tw Thu Nov 10 01:18:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8884D21F8B20 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:18:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.369 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.369 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.230, BAYES_20=-0.74, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L-dxMVVrnQqP for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from twnic.net.tw (unknown [IPv6:2001:288:4:1:21e:8cff:fe22:a99d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF7821F8B1B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:18:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from abelnb2 (abel.twnic.net.tw [211.72.211.155] (may be forged)) by twnic.net.tw (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id pAA9Ic2X007633; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:18:38 +0800 Message-ID: From: "Abel" To: "Serge Lachapelle" , "Jakob Heitz" References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca><007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com><4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu><4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120BBA3C@dfweml506-mbx> In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:17:42 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V15.4.3538.513 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 211.72.210.250 Cc: Gregory Mirsky , Serge Manning , 82attendees@ietf.org, Paul Kyzivat , Linda Dunbar Subject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don'tspeak Chinese X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 09:18:56 -0000 As I know, you can buy pre-paid SIM card from Telecom/Mobile shops , Google Map: From TICC to Mobile shop (major mobile companies in Taiwan) http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:zh-TW:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=%E5%8F%B0%E5%8C%97%E4%BF%A1%E7%BE%A9%E5%A8%81%E7%A7%80&fb=1&hq=%E5%A8%81%E7%A7%80&hnear=0x3442abadec7543e7:0x5dbcdd8252aeabe7,%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E5%8F%B0%E5%8C%97%E5%B8%82%E4%BF%A1%E7%BE%A9%E5%8D%80&cid=0,0,714399959189943046&ei=4JG7Tvb7CK2ImQWgxpjsBw&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&ved=0CAYQ_BI There are 3 days sim card/3.5G internet service about NTD 300, or 7 days about NTD500 (I don’t know how much money/days each Mobile system). at lase, please remember to bring your passport. Abel From: Serge Lachapelle Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:31 PM To: Jakob Heitz Cc: Gregory Mirsky ; Serge Manning ; 82attendees@ietf.org ; Paul Kyzivat ; Linda Dunbar Subject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don'tspeak Chinese Are pay-per-use sim cards with data easily available in Taiwan? /Serge on mobile phone. On Nov 10, 2011 5:39 AM, "Jakob Heitz" wrote: Often, a single words enough. BUT it's never a word you wrote down. A dictionary is the best way. Pleco is a great dictionary with lots of features to search, learn, write, read. -- Jakob Heitz. x25475. 510-566-2901 On Nov 9, 2011, at 7:54 PM, "Serge Manning" > wrote: On my iPhone...you can do some translations ahead of time and "star" them. Then, they are available when you are offline. I just tried it and not only is the text saved for starred items, but also the audio clip! All offline, amazing. Just need to capture useful phrases ahead of time while you have a data connection. On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Linda Dunbar > wrote: If you have a smart phone, use Google translate. It even has voice recognition. So you just need to say "where is the taxi stand", it translates immediately to Chinese both in words and sound. I wish that someone can make a small device doing this job which doesn't need internet connection. Then traveling in foreign countries becomes really easy. Linda _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees -- --Serge _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From KT@itsc.cuhk.edu.hk Thu Nov 10 01:41:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E5721F8B44 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:41:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.945 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LmlldGYub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vODJhdHRlbmRlZXMNCg== From cabo@tzi.org Thu Nov 10 02:01:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A38B21F8B29 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:01:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.033 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.033 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.216, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wTBlBmeCgQtJ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F4F21F8B2E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:01:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAAA102A017477; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:01:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (zoo.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.218.16]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 753C89AF; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:00:59 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:00:58 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <41FE7510-4BA9-4D06-88A0-2B988C06DE33@tzi.org> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120BBA3C@dfweml506-mbx> To: Serge Lachapelle X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: Jakob Heitz , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Paul Kyzivat , Linda Dunbar , Gregory Mirsky , Serge Manning Subject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don't speak Chinese X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:01:19 -0000 My favorite resource for finding good SIM cards is: http://prepaid-wireless-internet-access.wetpaint.com/page/Taiwan For Taiwan, it is not that helpful, but it seems to point to: http://english.taiwanmobile.com/english/product/broadRate.html The Mobile 5-day plan should be it (possibly twice or in combination = with a 3-day). I second the recommendation to do this at the airport. Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten From KT@itsc.cuhk.edu.hk Thu Nov 10 02:11:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0726D21F8726 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:11:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.108 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.108 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.109, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fCqsQZ0sPbHq for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:11:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk (serverf-itsc.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk [137.189.28.132]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEDB921F8508 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:11:37 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 18:11:36 +0800 Message-ID: <20663E71FC2D1A4F93B14C99CA81D8900252FC90@EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk> In-Reply-To: <41FE7510-4BA9-4D06-88A0-2B988C06DE33@tzi.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don'tspeak Chinese Thread-Index: Acyfj7ixtzqhANReRAWW0B67aDBiOAAAPrbg References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca><007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com><4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu><4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120BBA3C@dfweml506-mbx> <41FE7510-4BA9-4D06-88A0-2B988C06DE33@tzi.org> From: "KT So (ITSC)" To: "Carsten Bormann" , "Serge Lachapelle" Cc: Jakob Heitz , 82attendees@ietf.org, Paul Kyzivat , Linda Dunbar , Gregory Mirsky , Serge Manning Subject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don'tspeak Chinese X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 10:11:39 -0000 FYI, the Chinese version of the web page list the prices for 7/10/30 = days: NTD450/600/1500. http://m-internet.taiwanmobile.com/internet/catch_price_day.jsp -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Carsten Bormann Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:01 PM To: Serge Lachapelle Cc: Jakob Heitz; 82attendees@ietf.org; Paul Kyzivat; Linda Dunbar; = Gregory Mirsky; Serge Manning Subject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you = don'tspeak Chinese My favorite resource for finding good SIM cards is: http://prepaid-wireless-internet-access.wetpaint.com/page/Taiwan For Taiwan, it is not that helpful, but it seems to point to: http://english.taiwanmobile.com/english/product/broadRate.html The Mobile 5-day plan should be it (possibly twice or in combination = with a 3-day). I second the recommendation to do this at the airport. Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From ajs@anvilwalrusden.com Thu Nov 10 04:00:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD89121F8B1C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 04:00:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.545 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.545 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.054, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qZuPzbzhy93b for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 04:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.yitter.info (mail.yitter.info [208.86.224.201]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FE421F8B10 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 04:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from shinkuro.com (69-196-144-227.dsl.teksavvy.com [69.196.144.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 375C41ECB41F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:00:28 -0500 From: Andrew Sullivan To: 82attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20111110120027.GA340@shinkuro.com> References: <4EBB7A30.303@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4EBB7A30.303@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [82attendees] social ticket want name list X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:00:42 -0000 On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 10:16:00PM -0900, Melinda Shore wrote: > I was second and have been bumped down to fourth. I like to think that > people were just a little careless about editing. It's possible you were bumped to fourth because I was bumped to third because Marshall Eubanks and Leaf Yeh both added themselves at the top (quite correctly, I think, since they asked on the list before I did and before I created the wiki node). Still, some people might have been careless, so I added a reminder to the instructions on the wiki page. 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Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:23:06 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca><007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com><4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu><4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120BBA3C@dfweml506-mbx> <41FE7510-4BA9-4D06-88A0-2B988C06DE33@tzi.org> <20663E71FC2D1A4F93B14C99CA81D8900252FC90@EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk> Message-ID: <1320934986.48631.YahooMailNeo@web160716.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:23:06 -0800 (PST) From: Maaz Rehan To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> In-Reply-To: <20663E71FC2D1A4F93B14C99CA81D8900252FC90@EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1577192494-883458504-1320934986=:48631" Subject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don'tspeak Chinese X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maaz Rehan List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:23:13 -0000 --1577192494-883458504-1320934986=:48631 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everybody,=0A=0AFYI: If we purchase Skype credit, calls can be made from= Taiwan to any City through Skype on Mobile and vice-versa. =0A=0A=0AFor de= tail: http://www.skype.com/intl/en/home=0A=0A=0AMaaz Rehan=0AMobile: +92 33= 3 997 4992=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: KT So (ITSC) =0ATo: Carsten Bormann ; Serge Lachapelle = =0ACc: Jakob Heitz ; 82attende= es@ietf.org; Paul Kyzivat ; Linda Dunbar ; Gregory Mirsky ; Serge Manning= =0ASent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:11 PM=0ASubjec= t: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don'tspeak Chi= nese=0A=0AFYI, the Chinese version of the web page list the prices for 7/10= /30 days: NTD450/600/1500.=0A=0Ahttp://m-internet.taiwanmobile.com/internet= /catch_price_day.jsp=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: 82attendees= -bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carste= n Bormann=0ASent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:01 PM=0ATo: Serge Lachapell= e=0ACc: Jakob Heitz; 82attendees@ietf.org; Paul Kyzivat; Linda Dunbar; Greg= ory Mirsky; Serge Manning=0ASubject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get arou= nd in Taipei if you don'tspeak Chinese=0A=0AMy favorite resource for findin= g good SIM cards is:=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0 http://prepaid-wireless-internet-access= .wetpaint.com/page/Taiwan=0A=0AFor Taiwan, it is not that helpful, but it s= eems to point to:=0A=0A=A0=A0=A0 http://english.taiwanmobile.com/english/pr= oduct/broadRate.html=0A=0AThe Mobile 5-day plan should be it (possibly twic= e or in combination with a 3-day).=0A=0AI second the recommendation to do t= his at the airport.=0A=0AGr=FC=DFe, Carsten=0A=0A__________________________= _____________________=0A82attendees mailing list=0A82attendees@ietf.org=0Ah= ttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees=0A________________________= _______________________=0A82attendees mailing list=0A82attendees@ietf.org= =0Ahttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees --1577192494-883458504-1320934986=:48631 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Everybody,

FYI: If we purc= hase Skype credit, calls can be made from Taiwan to any City through Skype = on Mobile and vice-versa.

For detail: htt= p://www.skype.com/intl/en/home

<= /b>Maaz Rehan
Mobile: +92 333 997 4992

From: KT So (ITSC) <KT@itsc.cuhk.edu.h= k>
To: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.o= rg>; Serge Lachapelle <sergel@webrtc.org>
Cc: Jakob Heitz <jakob.heitz@ericsson.com>= ;; 82attendees@ietf.org; Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>; Linda = Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com>; Gregory Mirsky <gregory.mirsky@e= ricsson.com>; Serge Manning <sergem913@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 5:11 = PM
Subject: Re: [82atte= ndees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don'tspeak Chinese

FYI, the Chinese version of the web page list the prices for 7/10/30 d= ays: NTD450/600/1500.

http://m-internet.taiwanmob= ile.com/internet/catch_price_day.jsp


-----Original Message-----
From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf = Of Carsten Bormann
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:01 PM
To: Serg= e Lachapelle
Cc: Jakob Heitz; 82attendees@ietf.org; Paul Kyziva= t; Linda Dunbar; Gregory Mirsky; Serge Manning
Subject: Re: [82attendees= ] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don'tspeak Chinese

My favo= rite resource for finding good SIM cards is:

    http://prepaid-wireless-internet-access.wetpaint.com/page/T= aiwan

For Taiwan, it is not that helpful, but it seems to point to:

    http://english.taiwanmobil= e.com/english/product/broadRate.html

The Mobile 5-day plan shoul= d be it (possibly twice or in combination with a 3-day).

I second th= e recommendation to do this at the airport.

Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten
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--1577192494-883458504-1320934986=:48631-- From dhc@dcrocker.net Thu Nov 10 06:35:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157A521F8B21 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:35:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.871 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.871 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.167, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_RECV_IP_061228=0.895, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nfEpOktCu8D9 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C3E21F8B08 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.229] (61-230-51-213.dynamic.hinet.net [61.230.51.213]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAAEZcQf023693 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:35:49 -0800 Message-ID: <4EBBE138.8050006@dcrocker.net> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 22:35:36 +0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:35:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [82attendees] sim card other than from airport? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:35:51 -0000 I didn't get a chance to get a sim card at the airport. Is there somewhere around the TICC/101 area that would be a good source for a phone/data sim? Thanks. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From sergel@google.com Thu Nov 10 06:36:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6ED21F8B31 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:36:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.775 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.775 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FUZZY_CPILL=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_36=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_46=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LQoaMvFRYUof for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9409F21F8B3A for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by yenl7 with SMTP id l7so2432906yen.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:36:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; bh=Vj7ETDGqgLwuxFfq1FnrNAvRNAoSLlAIwjFCLMCn7xk=; b=BVBS3pHQ218BvnJJ60E4Kp8ze5KynpUH1wi7bYyoQnub+yT9M/z9+vGGTi/VqVuHRH FQFRIu+PGSHapq0eBWww== Received: by 10.101.61.7 with SMTP id o7mr3476611ank.67.1320935816135; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.101.61.7 with SMTP id o7mr3476572ank.67.1320935815118; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:36:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.12.15 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 06:36:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20663E71FC2D1A4F93B14C99CA81D8900252FC90@EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk> References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120BBA3C@dfweml506-mbx> <41FE7510-4BA9-4D06-88A0-2B988C06DE33@tzi.org> <20663E71FC2D1A4F93B14C99CA81D8900252FC90@EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk> From: Serge Lachapelle Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:36:24 +0100 Message-ID: To: "KT So (ITSC)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed67a807ff3d04b162568f X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: Jakob Heitz , 82attendees@ietf.org, Paul Kyzivat , Linda Dunbar , Gregory Mirsky , Carsten Bormann , Serge Manning Subject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don'tspeak Chinese X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 14:36:57 -0000 --001636ed67a807ff3d04b162568f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Awesome, thank you so much! /Serge On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:11, KT So (ITSC) wrote: > FYI, the Chinese version of the web page list the prices for 7/10/30 days= : > NTD450/600/1500. > > http://m-internet.taiwanmobile.com/internet/catch_price_day.jsp > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Carsten Bormann > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:01 PM > To: Serge Lachapelle > Cc: Jakob Heitz; 82attendees@ietf.org; Paul Kyzivat; Linda Dunbar; > Gregory Mirsky; Serge Manning > Subject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you > don'tspeak Chinese > > My favorite resource for finding good SIM cards is: > > http://prepaid-wireless-internet-access.wetpaint.com/page/Taiwan > > For Taiwan, it is not that helpful, but it seems to point to: > > http://english.taiwanmobile.com/english/product/broadRate.html > > The Mobile 5-day plan should be it (possibly twice or in combination with > a 3-day). > > I second the recommendation to do this at the airport. > > Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > --=20 Serge Lachapelle | Product Manager | sergel@google.com | +46 732 01 22 32 Google Sweden AB | Kungsbron 2, SE-111 22 Stockholm | Org. nr. 556656-6880 Apparently, this footer is required in Europe. Apologies. This email may be confidential or privileged. If you received this communication by mistake, please don't forward it to anyone else,please erase all copies and attachments, and please let me know that it went to the wrong person. Thanks. --001636ed67a807ff3d04b162568f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Awesome, thank you so much!

/Serge

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:11, KT So (ITSC) = <KT@itsc.cuhk.edu.hk> wrote:
FYI, the Chinese version of the web page li= st the prices for 7/10/30 days: NTD450/600/1500.

http://m-internet.taiwanmobile.com/internet/catch_price_= day.jsp


-----Original Message-----
From: 82attendees-bounces@i= etf.org [mailto:82atten= dees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carsten Bormann
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 6:01 PM
To: Serge Lachapelle
Cc: Jakob Heitz; 82attendees@ietf.o= rg; Paul Kyzivat; Linda Dunbar; Gregory Mirsky; Serge Manning
Subject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if you don'= tspeak Chinese

My favorite resource for find= ing good SIM cards is:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://prepaid-wireless-internet-access= .wetpaint.com/page/Taiwan

For Taiwan, it is not that helpful, but it seems to point to:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0http://english.taiwanmobile.com/english/p= roduct/broadRate.html

The Mobile 5-day plan should be it (possibly twice or in combination with a= 3-day).

I second the recommendation to do this at the airport.

Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten

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--001636ed67a807ff3d04b162568f-- From KT@itsc.cuhk.edu.hk Thu Nov 10 07:53:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6C921F8B36 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:53:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.161 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.161 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.012, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13lq+V6Bta6U for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk (serverf-itsc.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk [137.189.28.132]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C24BC21F8AE9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 07:53:50 -0800 (PST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:53:47 +0800 Message-ID: <20663E71FC2D1A4F93B14C99CA81D89002FDA8A8@EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] sim card other than from airport? Thread-Index: AcyfthGrlnHMoEjGSYSOEqelN73w7wACS6DC References: <4EBBE138.8050006@dcrocker.net> From: "KT So (ITSC)" To: , <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] sim card other than from airport? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:53:53 -0000 Abel suggested one near Vieshow Cinemas. I think you can also try this = one: =20 http://g.co/maps/bxymv =20 Chunghwa Telecom 130 Songren Road =20 Mon - Fri: 0800 - 1900 Sat: 1000 - 1700 It is next to the Taipei City Police Station. =20 Regards, Alan KT So ________________________________ From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org =A5N=B2z Dave CROCKER Sent: 2011/11/10 [=ACP=B4=C1=A5|] =A4U=A4=C8 10:35 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] sim card other than from airport? I didn't get a chance to get a sim card at the airport. Is there somewhere around the TICC/101 area that would be a good source = for a phone/data sim? Thanks. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From dhc@dcrocker.net Thu Nov 10 15:09:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B1DF21F85AE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:09:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.752 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.752 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.286, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_RECV_IP_061228=0.895, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CCb7uFWEUIud for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:09:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8825921F85A8 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:09:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.229] (61-230-55-61.dynamic.hinet.net [61.230.55.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAAN9eEW004241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:09:48 -0800 Message-ID: <4EBC59B0.8060806@dcrocker.net> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:09:36 +0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090905040103000402040000" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Thu, 10 Nov 2011 15:09:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [82attendees] AT Boutique Hotel X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:09:50 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090905040103000402040000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those planning to stay at the AT Boutique hotel: It is kitty corner to the southwest corner of the TICC. (On a diagonal from the Hyatt which is to the northeast.) From a distance there is good signage for the hotel in this stand-alone building. However at street level, most of what is visible is a language school. The hotel entrance is easy to miss. It small with little signage and is is offset from the corner. I've attached a picture. (The Welcome sign is for a conference that ends on Saturday.) Reception is on the 3rd floor, as is breakfast. Breakfast is basic but edible; mix of western and Chinese foods, of course. Espresso machine makes drinkable stuff. Breakfast room seems to be accessible as lounge all day, without food or coffee. Comfortable but dark, except near the windows. To get to other floors or in room they use an RFID touch room card. Room decor is quite modern. Room is small but entirely workable. Bathroom has a clear glass, floor to ceiling window... Pull the curtain tight. There's a small refrigerator, such as for milk for your coffee. Local nearby minimarts have individual drip coffee packets that are much better than the room's instant, though not great of course. Staff is quite friendly. Checkin is at 3pm but they let me into my room at 1pm. (I arrived at 6:30am...) Summary: This is quite a good place for sleeping and cleaning up. Not intended as social hang out. Weather: So far, there has been a constant drizzle outside. Constant, with some periods of graduating to light rain. Temperature is mild. Evenings just shy of cool. 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([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Mrw5OwTia2hD for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx20.jpix.ad.jp (mx20.jpix.ad.jp [210.171.225.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EBE1F0C3C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 16:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.10.31.134] (eth3-1-bb-fw-34.jpix.ad.jp [210.171.226.102]) by mx20.jpix.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C402FFC021 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:51:06 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:51:07 +0900 From: MAWATARI Masataka To: 82attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <4EBC59B0.8060806@dcrocker.net> References: <4EBC59B0.8060806@dcrocker.net> Message-Id: <20111111095107.5162.8FE1F57E@jpix.ad.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.57.03 [ja] Subject: Re: [82attendees] AT Boutique Hotel X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 00:51:10 -0000 Thank you very much for useful information. I will stay at the same hotel. (from 13th Nov to 18th) What about internet access service at guest room? Please let me know. Kind Regards, Masataka MAWATARI * On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:09:36 +0800 * Dave CROCKER wrote: > For those planning to stay at the AT Boutique hotel: > > It is kitty corner to the southwest corner of the TICC. (On a diagonal from the > Hyatt which is to the northeast.) > > From a distance there is good signage for the hotel in this stand-alone > building. However at street level, most of what is visible is a language > school. The hotel entrance is easy to miss. It small with little signage and > is is offset from the corner. I've attached a picture. (The Welcome sign is > for a conference that ends on Saturday.) > > Reception is on the 3rd floor, as is breakfast. > > Breakfast is basic but edible; mix of western and Chinese foods, of course. > Espresso machine makes drinkable stuff. Breakfast room seems to be accessible > as lounge all day, without food or coffee. Comfortable but dark, except near the > windows. > > To get to other floors or in room they use an RFID touch room card. > > Room decor is quite modern. Room is small but entirely workable. Bathroom has > a clear glass, floor to ceiling window... Pull the curtain tight. > > There's a small refrigerator, such as for milk for your coffee. Local nearby > minimarts have individual drip coffee packets that are much better than the > room's instant, though not great of course. > > Staff is quite friendly. Checkin is at 3pm but they let me into my room at 1pm. > (I arrived at 6:30am...) > > Summary: This is quite a good place for sleeping and cleaning up. Not intended > as social hang out. > > Weather: So far, there has been a constant drizzle outside. Constant, with > some periods of graduating to light rain. Temperature is mild. Evenings just > shy of cool. Daytime just shy of warm. > > d/ > -- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net From dhc@dcrocker.net Thu Nov 10 17:00:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EFD1F0C3C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:00:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.834 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.834 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.204, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_RECV_IP_061228=0.895, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2wWzDetHu906 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172E01F0C55 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.229] (61-230-55-61.dynamic.hinet.net [61.230.55.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAB10aeO006189 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:00:45 -0800 Message-ID: <4EBC73B1.20801@dcrocker.net> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:00:33 +0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MAWATARI Masataka References: <4EBC59B0.8060806@dcrocker.net> <20111111095107.5162.8FE1F57E@jpix.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <20111111095107.5162.8FE1F57E@jpix.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:00:45 -0800 (PST) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] AT Boutique Hotel X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:00:46 -0000 On 11/11/2011 8:51 AM, MAWATARI Masataka wrote: > What about internet access service at guest room? Please let me know. My goodness. How could I forget to mention that, for this crowd... Free wifi. 3rd floor access (reception and breakfast) requires password: 1234567890. Floors above are open. Download performance seems ok. Posting email often fails the first time and needs another try. I haven't tried to diagnose it. Second try works. I did a webex telecon, including over-the-net talking by me, and performance was good. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From mawatari@jpix.ad.jp Thu Nov 10 17:13:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F4A1F0C5E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:13:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.66 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.66 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.750, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wC9H7K2pJXcC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:13:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx20.jpix.ad.jp (mx20.jpix.ad.jp [210.171.225.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52C31F0C3C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:13:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.10.31.134] (eth3-1-bb-fw-34.jpix.ad.jp [210.171.226.102]) by mx20.jpix.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35308FC021; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:13:11 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:13:12 +0900 From: MAWATARI Masataka To: dcrocker@bbiw.net In-Reply-To: <4EBC73B1.20801@dcrocker.net> References: <20111111095107.5162.8FE1F57E@jpix.ad.jp> <4EBC73B1.20801@dcrocker.net> Message-Id: <20111111101312.516C.8FE1F57E@jpix.ad.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.57.03 [ja] Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] AT Boutique Hotel X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:13:12 -0000 I'm relieved to know that. Thanks again! Regards, Masataka MAWATARI * On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:00:33 +0800 * Dave CROCKER wrote: > On 11/11/2011 8:51 AM, MAWATARI Masataka wrote: > > What about internet access service at guest room? Please let me know. > > > My goodness. How could I forget to mention that, for this crowd... > > > Free wifi. 3rd floor access (reception and breakfast) requires password: > 1234567890. Floors above are open. > > Download performance seems ok. Posting email often fails the first time and > needs another try. I haven't tried to diagnose it. Second try works. > > I did a webex telecon, including over-the-net talking by me, and performance was > good. > > d/ > -- > > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net From KGreen@ixiacom.com Thu Nov 10 17:48:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17A011E8087 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:48:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.974 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.974 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.375, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id doAsHbZRG1aE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (ch1ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.182]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A4511E8080 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 17:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail7-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.254) by CH1EHSOBE018.bigfish.com (10.43.70.68) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:48:11 +0000 Received: from mail7-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail7-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7F35A0163; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:48:26 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: -47 X-BigFish: PS-47(zz9371K1447M542M1432N98dKzz1202hzz1033IL8275bh8275dh5eeeMz2fh2a8h668h839h944h) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.55.61.13; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPVD:NLI; H:CH1PRD0604HT003.namprd06.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail7-ch1: domain of ixiacom.com designates 157.55.61.13 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.55.61.13; envelope-from=KGreen@ixiacom.com; helo=CH1PRD0604HT003.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ; .outlook.com ; Received: from mail7-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail7-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1320976104401467_1643; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS019.bigfish.com (snatpool1.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.245]) by mail7-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52058D4004E; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1PRD0604HT003.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (157.55.61.13) by CH1EHSMHS019.bigfish.com (10.43.70.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.22; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:48:04 +0000 Received: from CH1PRD0604MB113.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.2.18]) by CH1PRD0604HT003.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.42.110.235]) with mapi id 14.15.0009.003; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:48:29 +0000 From: Kenneth Green To: Olaf Kolkman Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? Thread-Index: AQHMnsDcLYvTPM0cvEm+1hPuBGLeZpWm6kGQ Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:48:28 +0000 Message-ID: References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> <7309FCBCAE981B43ABBE69B31C8D21391A448C6435@EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se> <188D7750-B58A-4036-8C96-85988E5FEE43@NLnetLabs.nl> <6D82E678-5F7C-467D-A419-162FD2204804@NLnetLabs.nl> In-Reply-To: <6D82E678-5F7C-467D-A419-162FD2204804@NLnetLabs.nl> Accept-Language: en-AU, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.42.110.8] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-AuthMechanism: 04 X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-AuthSource: CH1PRD0604HT003.namprd06.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-SCL: -1 X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-messagesource: StoreDriver X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-BCC: X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-processed-by-journaling: Journal Agent X-MS-Exchange-CrossPremises-ContentConversionOptions: False; 00160000; True; ; iso-8859-1 X-OrganizationHeadersPreserved: CH1PRD0604HT003.namprd06.prod.outlook.com X-OriginatorOrg: ixiacom.com Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:48:38 -0000 Thanks for the Hyatt taxi card Olaf, it seems a useful concept so I created= a homebrew variant for those staying at the Howard Plaza and added it to t= he wiki here: http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf82#airp= ort_transportation Regards, Kenneth=20 -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Olaf Kolkman Sent: Wednesday, 9 November 2011 8:19 PM To: Jakob Heitz Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org; Paul Kyzivat Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taxi travel - English? On Nov 8, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Olaf Kolkman wrote: >=20 > On Nov 7, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Jakob Heitz wrote: >=20 >> That means "Taipei Hyatt big Hotel" >> You can find it on their website >> http://taipei.grand.hyatt.com/hyatt/hotels/index.jsp?language=3Dzh-Hant >>=20 >=20 >=20 > For your convenience: > http://www.secret-wg.org/taxi-card.pdf Today I received a 'real' taxi card from the Hotel. http://www.secret-wg.org/taxi-card.jpg I modified the link on the meeting wiki (http://www.ietf.org/registration/M= eetingWiki/wiki/ietf82) --Olaf ________________________________________________________=20 Olaf M. 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Yes, it is free and provide by government. always ------------------------------------------------- Ting-Yun Chi (=E7=B4=80=E5=BB=B7=E9=81=8B)=20 R&D Division, National IPv6 Deployment & Development Program Email: louk@louk.dyndns.org =20 Dependable Distributed System and Networks Lab.=20 Department of Electrical Engineering National Taiwan University, Taipei, = Taiwan, R.O.C.=20 Mobile: +886-933994032 LAB TEL: +886-2-3366-3700 #6611 =20 Ask not what the team can do for you, ask what you can do for the team. -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Dave CROCKER Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 9:01 AM To: MAWATARI Masataka Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] AT Boutique Hotel On 11/11/2011 8:51 AM, MAWATARI Masataka wrote: > What about internet access service at guest room? Please let me know. My goodness. How could I forget to mention that, for this crowd... Free wifi. 3rd floor access (reception and breakfast) requires = password:=20 1234567890. Floors above are open. Download performance seems ok. Posting email often fails the first time = and needs another try. I haven't tried to diagnose it. Second try = works. 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No, score=-3.115 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.566, BAYES_05=-1.11, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_RECV_IP_061228=0.895, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id b3fdffgD1ThP for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:22:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BB91F0C35 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.229] (61-230-55-61.dynamic.hinet.net [61.230.55.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAB4LtJG008711 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:22:03 -0800 Message-ID: <4EBCA2E0.90500@dcrocker.net> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:21:52 +0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:22:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [82attendees] Changing US$ into TWD near TICC on Xinyi Rd. X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:22:15 -0000 3 data points, along Xinyi Rd (around AT Boutique.) Away from TICC: 1. Citibank. They don't want to change money and suggested I go down to Hua Nan Bank nearby. 2. Hua Nan bank sent me to second floor and charged me 3%. They did not require a second ID, other than my passport. (Everybody requires to see and photocopy your passport.) Opposite TICC: 3. HSBC. Couldn't have been nicer. Process took a little time, but they got someone who spoke english and they even accepted my California Drivers License as a second ID. Rate seemed ok and there was no additional fee. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From dhc@dcrocker.net Thu Nov 10 20:31:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E188521F84B1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:31:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.052 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.052 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.503, BAYES_05=-1.11, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_RECV_IP_061228=0.895, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ix-LMo3P4Yri for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545A321F84B0 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.229] (61-230-55-61.dynamic.hinet.net [61.230.55.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAB4VNij008834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:31:32 -0800 Message-ID: <4EBCA517.5070502@dcrocker.net> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:31:19 +0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Thu, 10 Nov 2011 20:31:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [82attendees] Coffee -- In-room, do it yourself X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:31:34 -0000 Towards the sound end of TICC on Xinyi Rd is a Starbucks. There are others in the area, of course. They sell packaged beans and will grind it. Price is US$ 7.33 for 0.4 lbs (200g). The result is, of course, better than the single-cup drip coffee packages that are sold in the minimarts. I didn't check whether they sold single cup filters and cones. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From dan@danwing.org Thu Nov 10 21:47:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7642821F84AE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:47:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BGslFOehJRTJ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rincewind.ksquared.net (rincewind.ksquared.net [216.129.106.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A99D21F84AC for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rincewind.ksquared.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD2FB164E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rincewind.ksquared.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rincewind.ksquared.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4CLVMNkVkLxW for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.32.240.194] (c-67-161-56-27.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.161.56.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dwing) by rincewind.ksquared.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 85E93B1640 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:47:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EBCB6F0.8000505@danwing.org> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 21:47:28 -0800 From: Dan Wing User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EB998E3.6030200@danwing.org> In-Reply-To: <4EB998E3.6030200@danwing.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] espresso X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:47:38 -0000 On 11/8/2011 1:02 PM, Dan Wing wrote: > Has anyone found good espresso near the hotel? A nice thread here with pictures and brief reviews, and a pointer to a WSJ article, http://www.home-barista.com/cafes/espresso-adventures-in-far-east-t5606-20.html so I mapped everything I could find from that Home-Barista thread. I used the coffee icon for the espresso shops, and a fork/knife for some restaurants: http://g.co/maps/2nb9u -d From cabo@tzi.org Fri Nov 11 01:20:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1791021F84A7 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:20:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.688 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.688 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_RECV_IP_061228=0.895, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b=1.666, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N2FRHn8EzKVo for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2512421F84A5 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:20:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAB9JjsC012872; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:19:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.237] (61-230-55-61.dynamic.hinet.net [61.230.55.61]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AEB11F77; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:19:43 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <4EBC73B1.20801@dcrocker.net> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:19:38 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <317B6855-F09E-4E38-959A-CF30517838F5@tzi.org> References: <4EBC59B0.8060806@dcrocker.net> <20111111095107.5162.8FE1F57E@jpix.ad.jp> <4EBC73B1.20801@dcrocker.net> To: dcrocker@bbiw.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: MAWATARI Masataka , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] AT Boutique Hotel + how to get connected X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:20:08 -0000 I just did a SIP call on the AT Boutique AP, worked well. Otherwise +1 to all you said on this hidden, but nice place. (Haven't seen the mail failures, though.) I registered TPE-Free to my Taiwan Mobile phone number, but couldn't try = the network yet. Oh, and a hearty recommendation for the "cellular service" counter in 3F = of Terminal 1 in the TPE airport: they were really nice and got me a = fully connected SIM card quickly. TWD 800 (=3D =80 20) for both 10 days = of unlimited Mobile Broadband + spare change for approximately 40 = minutes of calling Europe. Absolute no-brainer. I wish we had a = cellphone company like Taiwan Mobile in Europe. Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten From dhc@dcrocker.net Fri Nov 11 01:32:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DCB221F86B3 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:32:02 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.746 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.746 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.292, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_RECV_IP_061228=0.895, SARE_RECV_SPAM_DOMN0b=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HKRSpxgSzId9 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351A421F84A0 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:31:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.229] (61-230-55-61.dynamic.hinet.net [61.230.55.61]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAB9Vn1C014575 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:31:57 -0800 Message-ID: <4EBCEB82.3060001@dcrocker.net> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:31:46 +0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EBC59B0.8060806@dcrocker.net> <20111111095107.5162.8FE1F57E@jpix.ad.jp> <4EBC73B1.20801@dcrocker.net> <317B6855-F09E-4E38-959A-CF30517838F5@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <317B6855-F09E-4E38-959A-CF30517838F5@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 01:31:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [82attendees] AT Boutique Hotel + how to get connected X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:32:02 -0000 On 11/11/2011 5:19 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > registered TPE-Free to my Taiwan Mobile phone number, but couldn't try the network yet. oh. right. get a sim card here and, gosh, now you have a local number. duh... (coulda had a v8...) thanks! d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com Fri Nov 11 04:32:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAAD21F8500 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:32:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.056, BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wgZcFJibkJqO for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail4.lucent.com (ihemail4.lucent.com [135.245.0.39]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73A721F84AE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:32:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from inbansmailrelay2.in.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-250-11-33.lucent.com [135.250.11.33]) by ihemail4.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id pABCWXlg010974 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:32:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from INBANSXCHHUB03.in.alcatel-lucent.com (inbansxchhub03.in.alcatel-lucent.com [135.250.12.80]) by inbansmailrelay2.in.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id pABCWWIf010029 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:02:33 +0530 Received: from INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.50]) by INBANSXCHHUB03.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.80]) with mapi; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:02:32 +0530 From: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:02:30 +0530 Thread-Topic: Italian Restaurants Thread-Index: Acygbfq9SyubeoBrR9Gdxs1VqVHUMQ== Message-ID: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.39 Subject: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:32:39 -0000 Hi, Are there any decent Italian restaurants near the meeting venue or Grand Hy= att? Cheers, Manav= From fred@cisco.com Fri Nov 11 05:10:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2F621F8922 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:10:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -109.735 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.735 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.864, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J1lHtRDttUPa for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:10:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-2.cisco.com (ams-iport-2.cisco.com [144.254.224.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A493721F87FA for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:10:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fred@cisco.com; l=702; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321017052; x=1322226652; h=subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id: references:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=orhJGsnWoSMk3ZhiFmKH8gTYd+yTKJqHv2x+RsC2NZE=; b=CoJkDJVYLaWhBieX7GsJpp+vMZWUJ4zxT6viyREWW3w79s7J+ye1aw52 PGJsQO2EVAbpvUjsMlfc1C3/g6WZSg08gh/YBSJa/xrhz+IjyyJIjrnK5 sqYbscoND1igXwNjCuAa4t6tYVlk26ORd7NYk4I8/Ed1Dd0vk4RrMkJhe E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAFQevU5Io8UQ/2dsb2JhbABDqh2BBYFyAQEBAwEBAQEPASc0CwULC0YnMAYBEiKHYAiZfgGeSIkbYwSIDowfhTqFEYc6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,494,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="59671304" Received: from bgl-core-1.cisco.com ([72.163.197.16]) by ams-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2011 13:10:20 +0000 Received: from Freds-Computer.local (hkidc-vpn-client-234-245.cisco.com [10.75.234.245]) by bgl-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pABD9Ejo019753; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:09:15 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] by Freds-Computer.local (PGP Universal service); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:09:15 +0800 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by Freds-Computer.local on Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:09:15 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Fred Baker In-Reply-To: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:09:02 +0800 Message-Id: <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> To: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" , Mary Barnes X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:10:53 -0000 I haven't tried any of them, but look at http://tinyurl.com/6nhpcyc That said, there is a food court in the lowest level of Taipei 101 that = is not too expensive and not at all bad - Sushi, Chinese/Taiwanese, = KFC+MacDonalds, and others - and (Mary) has a small supermarket in it. = There are also (surprise!) more betterer restaurants around here.=20 On Nov 11, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Are there any decent Italian restaurants near the meeting venue or = Grand Hyatt? >=20 > Cheers, Manav > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From weiler@watson.org Fri Nov 11 06:04:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9049C21F8A62 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:04:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.413 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.413 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.186, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fhFORpnvjhki for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026D421F8490 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pABE4Dxv095709 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:04:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) Received: from localhost (weiler@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id pABE4Dl6095704 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:04:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: weiler owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:04:13 -0500 (EST) From: Samuel Weiler To: 82attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:04:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [82attendees] Changing US$ into TWD near TICC on Xinyi Rd. X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:04:14 -0000 If you intend to change cash, consider doing it at the airport. The currency exchange at the airport charged less than 1% and didn't ask for ID. Net result: 100EUR --> 3980TWD. The "fee" was 30 TWD, and the basic rate was 40.17 (on Thursday). The spread for both USD and EUR was astonishingly small. -- Sam From weiler@watson.org Fri Nov 11 06:23:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A3721F84B8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:23:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.444 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.444 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.155, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OcPa6WYgCATP for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0A721F849E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pABENTgR001711 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:23:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) Received: from localhost (weiler@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id pABENQXM001701 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:23:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: weiler owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:23:25 -0500 (EST) From: Samuel Weiler To: 82attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:23:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: [82attendees] Report on Hyatt net X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:23:32 -0000 Here are some Netalyzer reports from the Hyatt net (pre-IETF-takeover): http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/restore/id=43ca208a-24438-68da33e7-be30-4657-9e30 http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/restore/id=43ca208a-24438-a0ca2c2e-ee22-45ca-b441 They show <2Mb speeds, mostly symmetric, with high buffering. Don't be fooled by the public IP addresses in the reports: they're assigning RFC1918 addresses. According to Netalyzer, there is very little filtering. DNS is being filtered in some ways, including no TCP and no AAAA answers. -- Sam From Hans_Liu@dlink.com.tw Fri Nov 11 06:57:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA3AC21F863E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:57:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.057 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.057 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.207, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xz1eAJcyWvcK for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:57:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp-tp2.dlink.com.tw (smtp-tp2.dlink.com.tw [60.248.210.36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0FB221F849E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 06:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from HCB-HUB1.dlink.com.tw (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-tp2.dlink.com.tw (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A52873B3; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:57:26 +0800 (CST) Received: from MBS-HQ1.dlink.com.tw ([fe80::d145:65e8:91b9:88a0]) by HCB-HUB1.dlink.com.tw ([::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0289.001; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:57:36 +0800 From: Hans Liu To: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants Thread-Index: AQHMoHNfxgcadknn4UCYro6HIyGpxJWnw5fh Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:57:35 +0000 Message-ID: References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com>, <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> Accept-Language: zh-TW, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:57:50 -0000 I know there is one nearby Hyatt, 5 mins walking distance http://www.bellavita.com.tw/eng/store.php?d=3D36 http://www.bellavita.com.tw/eng/location.php Best regards, Hans Sent from Hans' iPad2 >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> Are there any decent Italian restaurants near the meeting venue or Grand= Hyatt? >>=20 >> Cheers, Manav >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Fri Nov 11 07:10:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFDC21F8AA8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:10:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.284 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.284 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.552, BAYES_50=0.001, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5lfESKtThSlU for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A44A21F8A35 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 07:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pABF9aaw055581 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:09:36 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?big5?B?pP2n1Kao?= To: <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:08:31 +0800 Message-ID: <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acygc2Jukx45zmWCTDmVO/74TJg3hwAC9nSw Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pABF9aaw055581 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:10:18 -0000 Google's info is too rough, since most restaurants in Taiwan do not provide English information on the web. The one names "Diamond Tony's Italian Restaurant" at the 85F of 101 building is pretty good but not cheap (start from NT$800 for lunch and NT$1680 for dinner). I have been there for many times before they move up to the 85th floor from the 3rd floor. Also, there are many food courts nearby. Except the one in the 101 mall, the Shin Kong Mitsukoshi department store, which is just half block behind the 101 building (just ask anyone how to walk to Warner Bros Theater and you will see it), has food courts and restaurants in the A4, A8, and A11 building. Nearly 100 restaurants and snack bars inside. You can also find lots of good restaurants nearby. For those who want to try Taiwanese Cuisine, I will suggest you to try the Shin Yeh Restaurant at the 8th floor in the A9 building of the Shin Kong Mitsukoshi department store. They just win the top 5 restaurant in Taiwan in the Miele Guide. If you like Japanese style food, they have another store at the 5th floor in the A11 building of the same department store. They has English service and accept credit cards. Taipei is a city of all kinds of delicious foods. Enjoy it. Reen-Cheng Wang -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fred Baker Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 9:09 PM To: Bhatia, Manav (Manav); Mary Barnes Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants I haven't tried any of them, but look at http://tinyurl.com/6nhpcyc That said, there is a food court in the lowest level of Taipei 101 that is not too expensive and not at all bad - Sushi, Chinese/Taiwanese, KFC+MacDonalds, and others - and (Mary) has a small supermarket in it. There are also (surprise!) more betterer restaurants around here. On Nov 11, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any decent Italian restaurants near the meeting venue or Grand Hyatt? > > Cheers, Manav > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Fri Nov 11 08:46:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC10921F8678 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:46:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.369 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.369 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.326, BAYES_20=-0.74, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, J_CHICKENPOX_35=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l2Qn-K7WFfgu for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CBB521F861E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pABGkE0r077051 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:46:16 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?big5?B?pP2n1Kao?= To: <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> In-Reply-To: <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:45:40 +0800 Message-ID: <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acygc2Jukx45zmWCTDmVO/74TJg3hwAC9nSwAAO6IqA= Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pABGkE0r077051 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:46:55 -0000 Another Italian Restaurant I would suggest is "Osteria by Angie", which takes 15-20 min walking from the TICC. They provide south Italian food. http://www.osteria.com.tw/ For those who live in the Howard Plaza, here are some suggestions nearby. "La Giara" serves good quality Sisley food. http://www.lagiara.com.tw/ "Tien Yuen (means rural) Taiwanese Restaurant" at No. 2, DongFon St. (just cross the Fu-Hsin S.Rd., from the Howard Plaza hotel and walk 50M right) provide good Taiwanese food. "Zhu Ji Pancake restaurant" is famous for its beef noodle and pancake with beef suffering. Walk about 150-200M west along the Ren-Ai Road from the hotel and you will find it at your left-hand side. -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fred Baker Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 9:09 PM To: Bhatia, Manav (Manav); Mary Barnes Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants I haven't tried any of them, but look at http://tinyurl.com/6nhpcyc That said, there is a food court in the lowest level of Taipei 101 that is not too expensive and not at all bad - Sushi, Chinese/Taiwanese, KFC+MacDonalds, and others - and (Mary) has a small supermarket in it. KFC+There are also (surprise!) more betterer restaurants around here. On Nov 11, 2011, at 8:32 PM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: > Hi, > > Are there any decent Italian restaurants near the meeting venue or > Grand Hyatt? > > Cheers, Manav > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Fri Nov 11 09:32:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC19A21F8558 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:32:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.56 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.56 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.276, BAYES_50=0.001, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dunCyb7Levni for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328F321F8541 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 09:32:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pABHWeOX085458 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:32:40 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?big5?B?pP2n1Kao?= To: <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <4EB998E3.6030200@danwing.org> <4EBCB6F0.8000505@danwing.org> In-Reply-To: <4EBCB6F0.8000505@danwing.org> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:31:55 +0800 Message-ID: <000b01cca097$cea334d0$6be99e70$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcygNXfEaPOVVvuGQ025fD4V4zcGfwAXbbww Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pABHWeOX085458 Subject: Re: [82attendees] espresso X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:32:44 -0000 For those who just want a cheap and not bad coffee, I would suggest you just walk in to any 7-11 or family mart and order a current brew coffee. The quality is above average (better than most of hotels) in these two convenient store. Or, you can find Starbucks, Lavazza cafe (at A8 building of Shin Kong Mitsukoshi department store), and other cafes nearby. For those who only want best quality, here is the map of specialty coffee in Taipei. http://taipeicafe.web-street.com.tw/img/2.5_coffeemap.jpg The one which is the closest to the venue is Zhuang-Jing Branch of the Kaidi Coffee. http://kaidi-coffee.com.tw/mainwebsite/about4_a.html 10-15mins walk from the venue. Another one home barista I know nearby is "1868 coffee and bakery store". It is near the 4th entrance of the MRT station of the Taipei City Hall. The address is here: No. 18, Lane 71, Sec. 5th, Zhong-Xiao E. Rd., Taipei. 15-20mins walk from the venue. Reen-Cheng Wang A coffee lover. Member of Cup Of Excellence (was). -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dan Wing Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:47 PM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] espresso On 11/8/2011 1:02 PM, Dan Wing wrote: > Has anyone found good espresso near the hotel? A nice thread here with pictures and brief reviews, and a pointer to a WSJ article, http://www.home-barista.com/cafes/espresso-adventures-in-far-east-t5606-20.h tml so I mapped everything I could find from that Home-Barista thread. I used the coffee icon for the espresso shops, and a fork/knife for some restaurants: http://g.co/maps/2nb9u -d _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From loa@pi.nu Fri Nov 11 10:05:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C656C21F8AEA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:05:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Cuyumo5ZBByv for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:05:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.pi.nu (mail.pi.nu [194.71.127.148]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FB6D21F8ABB for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:05:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.20.0.206] (unknown [203.69.99.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: loa@pi.nu) by mail.pi.nu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 28B262A8004 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:05:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EBD63D0.5050205@pi.nu> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:05:04 +0900 From: Loa Andersson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [82attendees] breakfast place X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:05:09 -0000 All, when I wake up Saturday after having spent the last 24 hours on airport and in airplanes, and want to find a place that can do french style breakfast (croissant and coffee) where do I go. Preferably close to the Hyatt. /Loa -- Loa Andersson email: loa.andersson@ericsson.com Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 +46 767 72 92 13 From mellon@fugue.com Fri Nov 11 12:59:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245331F0C63 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:59:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.406 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.406 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0wNkxCFZi5xs for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C729D1F0C61 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.3.2] (ai126212003245.5.tik.access-internet.ne.jp [126.212.3.245]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 292ED23806DB; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:59:01 -0500 (EST) References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> In-Reply-To: <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 05:59:11 +0900 To: =?GB2312?B?zfXIzLPJ?= Cc: "<82attendees@ietf.org>" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:59:04 -0000 On Nov 12, 2011, at 1:45 AM, =CD=F5=C8=CC=B3=C9 wrote: > "Tien Yuen (means rural) Taiwanese Restaurant" at No. 2, DongFon St. (just= > cross the Fu-Hsin S.Rd., from the Howard Plaza hotel and walk 50M right) > provide good Taiwanese food. Any advice on where to get good cheap vegetarian chinese food near the venue= ? From marshall.eubanks@gmail.com Fri Nov 11 13:45:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B028421F8549 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:45:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.479 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.479 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.120, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DfVAUjfR9x63 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385A621F8532 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywt34 with SMTP id 34so2846722ywt.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:45:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=elKXwQTuYmSrdTNZzp39MXdGRB+Rbgvj3CqvnBYy4ig=; b=B8F49R+c74q0iZd9OgXinYLaquKZrxfPaQsoDTheS+0AWOiJN09wJ2i8klhFh/mkxO vTn84MYk0xMIvHwILQ1vbOTeNLo7rn4wgUQUaOuoSTVaqH2PRYZrTtqQDruEhH+UqYJT 0giSVgVYNERG6UBBAofQr0oA65P49lLMTEZvA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.150.4 with SMTP id ue4mr1780846obb.74.1321047900694; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.159.73 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:45:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 16:45:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Marshall Eubanks To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [82attendees] Exchange Yuan X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:45:01 -0000 Can you exchange PRC Yuan for NTD in Taiwan ? Regards Marshall From barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Fri Nov 11 14:47:14 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FBC211E8088 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.786 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.786 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.109, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wG4VGkGSh280 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B3511E8085 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by yenq4 with SMTP id q4so1499201yen.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XYcJe2AMSFETeVtWzEBZPusMmO13QDRZzfa4jRjdv6o=; b=USnYhnzeKrBbQZe3Pkq7WTRL8SSilc0GnZmarv5vLK5cP+iYxX+XIKgRecZdxFVofK uzm1mvpnEy9AumeQJEeeJPYZ29tSmijJNEN2Gwsy1RYtIpcqCAfOApEx3seFkREgW+S/ +2xmy4hmGt/VrsVyY7RcIOmg2kZhfcozIO9pc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.147.157.21 with SMTP id j21mr454423yao.36.1321051632343; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: barryleiba.mailing.lists@gmail.com Received: by 10.146.250.14 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:47:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <000b01cca097$cea334d0$6be99e70$@edu.tw> References: <4EB998E3.6030200@danwing.org> <4EBCB6F0.8000505@danwing.org> <000b01cca097$cea334d0$6be99e70$@edu.tw> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:47:12 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hXdxXlx8OKTC9wFHvURjoBLbbCo Message-ID: From: Barry Leiba To: =?UTF-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] espresso X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:47:14 -0000 > For those who only want best quality, here is the map of specialty coffee in > Taipei. > http://taipeicafe.web-street.com.tw/img/2.5_coffeemap.jpg Thanks for this, Reen-Cheng. The URL is wrong, though: you "fixed" their spelling of "coffee". :-) The correct URL is this: http://taipeicafe.web-street.com.tw/img/2.5_cofemap.jpg Copy/paste is your friend. Barry From czhou@cisco.com Fri Nov 11 15:20:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AABC21F84FC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:20:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.136 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.136 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NwdxlVpwLjJ2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAC8E21F84F9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:20:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=czhou@cisco.com; l=361; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321053631; x=1322263231; h=subject:references:content-transfer-encoding:from: in-reply-to:message-id:date:to:cc:mime-version; bh=avbhqawWKuw8RFxX833rAEIAVxtVFIIxpxqUcWiIRiU=; b=fLLDTVHfkyi3k80YPGg1TF4Ht7dt/WwrIrUXWYH3N+41u9RQlSIitpnZ KOCE7s9MiDdJ1EMsH6ozF3x8ArFFW4fd0Lo8KNbWy6A1i49XwaUeiXkNF s6gaj1Bnrim7Fvnqzh0ltuDiXKnGYX7MPYZCREXFZG+Bc5/IEeKLPotTT Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiUFAHWtvU6tJXG9/2dsb2JhbABCqSd2AoEFgXIBAQEDAQEBAQ8BJzQLBQsCAQhGIQYwAQEEEyKHYAiZUQGeFASJG2MEiA6MH4VDhQeHOw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,497,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="35246356" Received: from rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com ([173.37.113.189]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP; 11 Nov 2011 23:20:22 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com [72.163.62.201]) by rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pABNKMmG003979; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:20:22 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-208.cisco.com ([72.163.62.215]) by xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:20:22 -0600 Received: from 72.163.43.4 ([72.163.43.4]) by XMB-RCD-208.cisco.com ([72.163.62.215]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:20:22 +0000 References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Chao Zhou (czhou)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In-Reply-To: thread-topic: [82attendees] Exchange Yuan thread-index: AcygyHvSnvBoemDoSm24D+6ETGmjow== Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:20:17 +0800 To: "Marshall Eubanks" MIME-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8F190) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Nov 2011 23:20:22.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[7C4D0EF0:01CCA0C8] Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Exchange Yuan X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:20:31 -0000 Yes, I just did in airport. On Nov 12, 2011, at 5:45 AM, "Marshall Eubanks" = wrote: > Can you exchange PRC Yuan for NTD in Taiwan ? >=20 > Regards > Marshall > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From turners@ieca.com Fri Nov 11 17:24:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEFD621F84AF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:24:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.422 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.422 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.157, BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gSSQ49uXV7fW for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway.websitewelcome.com (gateway13.websitewelcome.com [69.93.35.21]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509F721F849E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by gateway.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id CEA5A406656E7; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:24:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from gator1743.hostgator.com (gator1743.hostgator.com [184.173.253.227]) by gateway.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0ACB406656C7 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:24:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from [72.14.229.194] (port=46654 helo=Sean-Turners-MacBook.local) by gator1743.hostgator.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RP2KH-0006iz-Gg for 82attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:24:09 -0600 Message-ID: <4EBDCAB9.20500@ieca.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:24:09 +0800 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com> <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator1743.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ieca.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (Sean-Turners-MacBook.local) [72.14.229.194]:46654 X-Source-Auth: sean.turner@ieca.com X-Email-Count: 20 X-Source-Cap: ZG9tbWdyNDg7ZG9tbWdyNDg7Z2F0b3IxNzQzLmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:24:10 -0000 Taxi from Airport last night was 1230. spt On 11/1/11 2:17 AM, jarrett.lu@oracle.com wrote: > Hi Dan, > > As Jakob pointed out, Bus 2060, Taipei - Taoyuan East line, is the one. > According to the website, the last bus leaving TPE airport at 1 AM. So > you should be OK. The bus drops passengers off at the side door of Grand > Hyatt. It takes about 70 minutes from TPE to Hyatt. > > Let me know if you need more info. > > - Jarrett > > > On 10/31/11 06:21, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: >> Hi Jarrett, >> >> Do you know more details about this shuttle? Does it need to be ordered >> in advance? Is it easy to find for a dis-oriented foreigner? Hours of >> operation? (my flight lands at 22:25) >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> >> Dan >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From turners@ieca.com Fri Nov 11 17:27:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D482D1F0C38 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:27:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.58 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.58 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.019, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SowFMcrqgqmU for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:27:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gateway.websitewelcome.com (gateway14.websitewelcome.com [70.85.130.16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F178F21F84CE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by gateway.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id D00A1C46A0982; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:26:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from gator1743.hostgator.com (gator1743.hostgator.com [184.173.253.227]) by gateway.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2102C46A095E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:26:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from [72.14.229.194] (port=16926 helo=Sean-Turners-MacBook.local) by gator1743.hostgator.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RP2Mz-00078u-9j for 82attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:26:57 -0600 Message-ID: <4EBDCB60.6090808@ieca.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:26:56 +0800 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476156358@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476156358@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator1743.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ieca.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (Sean-Turners-MacBook.local) [72.14.229.194]:16926 X-Source-Auth: sean.turner@ieca.com X-Email-Count: 21 X-Source-Cap: ZG9tbWdyNDg7ZG9tbWdyNDg7Z2F0b3IxNzQzLmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:27:00 -0000 There was one ATM prior to customs/immigration and two after. I don't remember whether it asked for English, but there were 8 of us who figured it out. spt On 11/3/11 6:54 AM, Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com wrote: > I can confirm the availability of ATMs at the Taipei airport. I used one of them 3 weeks ago, that one was located just before the exit from the airport building. It had an English UI. > If you mistype your pin, you get a receipt with a 4 digit number in the 'code' field (good luck in finding out what that means). When the transaction goes through, that same field should say 'OK'. > I saw plenty of ATMs all over the city. > > - Gabor > > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Paul Kyzivat > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 8:55 AM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] ATMs > > I saw a passing comment somewhere that ATMs were scarce in Taipei and one should bring cash to convert to local currency. But I also think I saw a reference to an ATM at the airport. > > Can someone in the know expound on the availability (or lack thereof) of ATMs? > > Thanks, > Paul > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From weiler@watson.org Fri Nov 11 17:31:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C24821F84DA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:31:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.466 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.466 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.133, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oEvJ3zdaW7jv for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:31:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [65.122.17.41]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F36F21F84D8 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAC1Uxng027268; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:30:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) Received: from localhost (weiler@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) with ESMTP id pAC1Uxve027264; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:30:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from weiler@watson.org) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: weiler owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:30:59 -0500 (EST) From: Samuel Weiler To: Sean Turner In-Reply-To: <4EBDCB60.6090808@ieca.com> Message-ID: References: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476156358@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <4EBDCB60.6090808@ieca.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:30:59 -0500 (EST) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:31:09 -0000 On Sat, 12 Nov 2011, Sean Turner wrote: > There was one ATM prior to customs/immigration and two after. I > don't remember whether it asked for English, but there were 8 of us > who figured it out. English was an option, but it also asked which card network you wanted to use (e.g. Plus or Cirrus). -- Sam From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Fri Nov 11 17:49:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB57321F847A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:49:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L-vOE-tuU-7A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1246821F847B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.100.35] (61-220-70-183.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.220.70.183]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAC1nlea045306 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:49:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:49:46 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Samuel Weiler X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Report on Hyatt net X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:49:50 -0000 On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Samuel Weiler wrote: > Here are some Netalyzer reports from the Hyatt net = (pre-IETF-takeover): = http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/restore/id=3D43ca208a-24438-68da33e7-be3= 0-4657-9e30 > = http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/restore/id=3D43ca208a-24438-a0ca2c2e-ee2= 2-45ca-b441 For "comparison", here are the results from the Howard Plaza room = wireless: = http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/restore/id=3D43ca208a-24400-d2fe6e53-f0b= e-4ffa-9846 --Paul Hoffman From morgan.sackett@gmail.com Fri Nov 11 17:58:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA9821F8495 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:58:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T1LPCJ6uWq9F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F9F21F8493 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by gye5 with SMTP id 5so4184834gye.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:58:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZuD4wPW7iNpEZLQpKJFMLqkrrNcmHs76aaUmvf+o+HM=; b=xAJ9XbjzuJv27QHtp7qPYzZbFVqHaNWaAQzlQYkjKJe0mw4UtNqUaGnWadc4AolL8M UhFriL/eGUY2VP1DYuOBfYb7Hj9EEn2Q6YmELAIYwHSlvYyeY7wHxbcLtJ+/GUZ8vNuL IG4Oke7+Le4keKxlRyVPwp4yWPCC+pzdzjeQc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.29.168 with SMTP id l8mr28619735pbh.84.1321063130095; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.46.101 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 17:58:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476156358@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <4EBDCB60.6090808@ieca.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:58:50 +0800 Message-ID: From: Morgan Sackett To: Samuel Weiler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Sean Turner , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:58:51 -0000 I had to use the Cirrus option to let it access my Mastercard debit card. -Morgan On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Samuel Weiler wrote: > On Sat, 12 Nov 2011, Sean Turner wrote: > >> There was one ATM prior to customs/immigration and two after. =A0I don't >> remember whether it asked for English, but there were 8 of us who figure= d it >> out. > > English was an option, but it also asked which card network you wanted to > use (e.g. Plus or Cirrus). > > -- Sam > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Fri Nov 11 18:18:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5213521F84B8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Paul Hoffman In-Reply-To: <4EBDCB60.6090808@ieca.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 10:18:55 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0C129E25-9D11-42B8-BC82-62A2BD27D20F@vpnc.org> References: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476156358@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <4EBDCB60.6090808@ieca.com> To: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:18:58 -0000 If you want to wait until after customs, as you are walking towards the = taxi area, there is a large garish pink ATM sign near the windows. It's = a Bank of Taiwan ATM, seemed perfectly reasonable. Dispenses both = NT$1000 and NT$100 bill. NT$4500 appears in my bank statement as = US$149.15, plus a 1% service fee. Seems quite reasonable. --Paul Hoffman= From ogud@ogud.com Fri Nov 11 19:17:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DB11F0C3B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:17:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7A6ID++yaGhb for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:17:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from stora.ogud.com (stora.ogud.com [66.92.146.20]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDC01F0C38 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:17:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (nyttbox.md.ogud.com [10.20.30.4]) by stora.ogud.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAC3Gw33011304 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:16:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ogud@ogud.com) Message-ID: <4EBDE520.7020504@ogud.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:16:48 -0500 From: Olafur Gudmundsson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 10.20.30.4 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Report on Hyatt net X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:17:01 -0000 On 11/11/2011 20:49, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Samuel Weiler wrote: > >> Here are some Netalyzer reports from the Hyatt net (pre-IETF-takeover): http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/restore/id=43ca208a-24438-68da33e7-be30-4657-9e30 >> http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/restore/id=43ca208a-24438-a0ca2c2e-ee22-45ca-b441 > > For "comparison", here are the results from the Howard Plaza room wireless: > > http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/restore/id=43ca208a-24400-d2fe6e53-f0be-4ffa-9846 > Here is AT Boutique hotel http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/restore/id=43ca253f-29405-fc8c2528-a121-489e-8f0c Olafur From twalsh@juniper.net Fri Nov 11 19:27:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A9121F848B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:27:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BhJMwpb7JmBl for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og127.obsmtp.com (exprod7og127.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.210]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4778121F848C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:27:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob127.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTr3nr3f5cRl4pZGYwJmb4vyDX7NQ1ESb@postini.com; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:27:54 PST Received: from p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net (172.28.145.25) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net (172.24.192.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:27:00 -0800 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::c126:c633:d2dc:8090%11]) with mapi; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:26:59 -0500 From: Thomas Walsh To: Samuel Weiler , Sean Turner Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:26:57 -0500 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] ATMs Thread-Index: Acyg2sPeYDwu68lvQNGjVLbX7P0g/gAD7VPQ Message-ID: References: <4EB167C7.1010807@alum.mit.edu> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E476156358@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <4EBDCB60.6090808@ieca.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:27:55 -0000 Not sure if this was mentioned before. There are several ATMs in Taipei 10= 1. =20 Find the INFORMATION Booth one floor above the food court. Then walk left = from the booth, take the first corridor on the left, and just before "Foli = Foli" there is a set of doors behind which are 4 ATMs with different networ= ks. -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Samuel Weiler Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 9:31 AM To: Sean Turner Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ATMs On Sat, 12 Nov 2011, Sean Turner wrote: > There was one ATM prior to customs/immigration and two after. I=20 > don't remember whether it asked for English, but there were 8 of us=20 > who figured it out. English was an option, but it also asked which card network you wanted=20 to use (e.g. Plus or Cirrus). -- Sam _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From fluffy@cisco.com Fri Nov 11 19:35:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7177C1F0C3D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:35:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.136, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 584u-U3EXh7v for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:35:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8517021F84AB for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:35:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; l=241; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321068921; x=1322278521; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id: to:mime-version; bh=+nEIZt8NRTJ7fprg2sMBwqy+Z9SVX7i5ifOCczPCiOk=; b=P5NeX6WMUmzmfonZM4t61D1SxNXfHnNxZht6KXeP2ve7HrNY9RFxkZCj hQpP8DyqrcGLgSXvsA0Zpv79f6wjYggpvbGKNmIboqSd7fwk2hrv/cnsD KCN3r0OnID027AjQGClvEIuXvt0ftL/qmyVIJOncFNV5hT6i6jyanN1Bj o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIFABXovU6rRDoI/2dsb2JhbABCmmuPQ4EFggsBJy6CBJ5dgSYBnXuJG2MEiA6MH5IF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,498,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="13811728" Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2011 03:35:21 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn6-1496.cisco.com (sjc-vpn6-1496.cisco.com [10.21.125.216]) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAC3ZK6h022038 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:35:20 GMT From: Cullen Jennings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:35:20 +0800 Message-Id: <86129554-C85E-4617-AA0B-7DC517B682C2@cisco.com> To: 82attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [82attendees] Coffee at Black-Bar X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:35:22 -0000 You can walk randomly from the conference center and you will run into a = ton of coffee places.=20 Got a very solid c at Black Bar. Recomend it. They roast.=20 It's across streeet from 7 eleven just past the TGIF.=20 Black-Bar From fluffy@cisco.com Fri Nov 11 19:37:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6E81F0C3D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:37:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.466 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.466 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.133, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OJc-uSoBcKcA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A7F21F0C38 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:37:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fluffy@cisco.com; l=553; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321069040; x=1322278640; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id: to:mime-version; bh=g3PqQOqI69/a/FQuMgkTXOXreIFPqijN6epLxm+Su4I=; b=SH4iZ8nhVuwqPKvZoD+D9eNGQfVA8DOz761tGmbq7LN5QElp54r6c8uh 3E+PassCki1Gz23Zb0sCBfuoDrSriHQmXeEiGZyuwIAuJdOl2Dl9zXnYX fyxoxLVO0x9YgzKfh1LoTeDWvgnKwYieBJcPZJ09LPsD8P173RxrpyfLh 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIFAETpvU6rRDoG/2dsb2JhbABCmmuPQ4EFggsBJy6Bdw2eWIEmAZ17iRtjBIgOjB+SBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,498,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="13811875" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2011 03:37:19 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn6-1496.cisco.com (sjc-vpn6-1496.cisco.com [10.21.125.216]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAC3bImC022155 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:37:18 GMT From: Cullen Jennings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:37:17 +0800 Message-Id: To: 82attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [82attendees] Coffee at Notch X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:37:20 -0000 Another place with a micro roast culture going on. Nice vibe. Comfy = couches. Cappuccino was better than anything at start bucks and espresso = I got was a bit over extracted. Nice baker across street on the corner.=20= If you were walking to Black Bar from the conference center and turned = left on the street before Black Bar and went a few blocks you would find = it. Oh and you go by a good baker on way. I realize theses instructions = are useless but really, just wander around randomly and you will find = lots of cool stuff.=20= From wesley.george@twcable.com Fri Nov 11 20:47:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 126DC1F0C4C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:47:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.813 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.813 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.650, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FeUCg8D29odt for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdpipgw01.twcable.com (cdpipgw01.twcable.com [165.237.59.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B6F1F0C41 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:47:12 -0800 (PST) X-SENDER-IP: 10.136.163.15 X-SENDER-REPUTATION: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,498,1315195200"; d="scan'208";a="296570662" Received: from unknown (HELO PRVPEXHUB06.corp.twcable.com) ([10.136.163.15]) by cdpipgw01.twcable.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 11 Nov 2011 23:42:47 -0500 Received: from PRVPEXVS03.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.27]) by PRVPEXHUB06.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.15]) with mapi; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:47:10 -0500 From: "George, Wes" To: "Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com" , "brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:47:30 -0500 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? Thread-Index: AQHMlz12nb42DYce20+yUcZlYfDmKZWVbOQAgBNPkHA= Message-ID: References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47614D546@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47614D546@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:47:13 -0000 FWIW - if you are willing to pay a small premium (NT$1400 instead of the us= ual $1200-1300), there are usually people arranging unmetered flat-fee ride= s in official cabs, which allows you to bypass the line at the taxi stand. = I know that was quite attractive given the long line when I arrived at the = airport late last night from Narita. YMMV. Wes George > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com > Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 6:01 PM > To: brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com; 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? > > A taxi costs between NT$1200 and NT$1300. It cost me NT$1250 to the > Hyatt 2 weeks ago. The ride was ~40 min at 8pm on a Monday. > Taxis do not take credit cards, the airport has ATM machines and a > bank. > Drivers do not expect tips, they give you hand-filled receipts upon > request, not machine generated ones as in mainland China. > > -gabor > This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the u= se of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the= intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissem= ination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents= of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawf= ul. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender imm= ediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail an= d any printout. From wilmer@google.com Fri Nov 11 20:52:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5579A21F84A7 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:52:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4k1J2bJNPyDi for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C289C21F849B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so6250837iae.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:52:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-system-of-record; bh=Bm1sj6McutknTXIqsk/dv3b55i8qpFxLp9wjbBNu0Jo=; b=WFe+RJSHSDs19tSN031lF8URG6wt2xj/+HrZh4/qsxWuq9QyHdcAipXMaDlI/RcEiO bNeH1SwQeFCbjAaSB5LQ== Received: by 10.50.169.97 with SMTP id ad1mr15619544igc.35.1321073571158; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:52:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.169.97 with SMTP id ad1mr15619538igc.35.1321073571017; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.16.205 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:52:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47614D546@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:52:50 +0800 Message-ID: From: Wilmer van der Gaast To: "George, Wes" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:52:52 -0000 On 12 November 2011 12:47, George, Wes wrote: > FWIW - if you are willing to pay a small premium (NT$1400 instead of the = usual $1200-1300), there are usually people arranging unmetered flat-fee ri= des in official cabs, which allows you to bypass the line at the taxi stand= . I know that was quite attractive given the long line when I arrived at th= e airport late last night from Narita. YMMV. > I had something similar for TWD 1300 last night. It seems to be a car rental/limo taxi service, right at arrivals, near the ATM. The lady was worried that they had no taxi available at that moment - but I was on my way in less than five minutes, no queueing or standing in the rain or whatever. Cheers, --=20 Wilmer van der Gaast, Traffic SRE/Google Public DNS team. Google Ireland. From mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com Fri Nov 11 20:59:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F851F0C44 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:59:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.137 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.137 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.462, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MnRQrhxkECDv for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9481F0C3C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:59:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1so4603310vcb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:59:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ixHL94knMnpCoB4V2x/40cTkjpStiXkHD+67VDoU3Fo=; b=Su24LQUrvwm/0phTn5i5J9qEqmeF7HJSjSGsHoNE1OZ2EDEGlLtLSioa4NgnixO3LK 53pMiQ4OWbNGMLU0PnAUtUlgmbi+SZgEU0+3oMwXZmvDiXsEYUY7pGNreMkAAavfcJKF QlBqH+HCXcGTqPL9T9u1/u4NXWGyMY9VRSoY4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.17.112 with SMTP id n16mr25013347vdd.70.1321073967453; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:59:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:59:27 -0600 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Fred Baker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: [82attendees] Supermarket - (was Re: Italian Restaurants) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 04:59:30 -0000 Thanks Fred. The supermarket is very nice - by American standards it is small, but I thought it was a very good size with lots of variety. Along with fresh and packaged local foods, they have a lot of imported foods, including American brands (California red grapes and Sun maid raisins, for example). There are some foods for folks on special diets - I'll post on the ietf-food list (@employees.org) for folks interested in those details. The staff are very helpful and the one lady spoke very good English, so don't hesitate to ask questions. Mary. On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Fred Baker wrote: > I haven't tried any of them, but look at http://tinyurl.com/6nhpcyc > > That said, there is a food court in the lowest level of Taipei 101 that i= s not too expensive and not at all bad - Sushi, Chinese/Taiwanese, KFC+MacD= onalds, and others - and (Mary) has a small supermarket in it. There are al= so (surprise!) more betterer restaurants around here. > From melinda.shore@gmail.com Fri Nov 11 21:26:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBA61F0C47 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:26:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AQfGrznFEdRW for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:26:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0C71F0C44 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by gye5 with SMTP id 5so4278980gye.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:26:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=voOsapO3knq4U2qjHssJyd5bfkKUbv5PUHVsRnHiM8U=; b=ujlq/DKOvpAgwC/RbEysn18C6UTOBzr+GQPpIQBDEDbs5DFCZkqMTiTSFzrLFdiTUu nMiU1i0tOSVpU16g6jSpn+O9RPQc8lmKPi4fGsuIIitXGo6gCZRM9vZ38PU3MCMhPKcW 9HPO66X+GebQpzCp9VznCC04a65z0q0EpdZhk= Received: by 10.236.181.138 with SMTP id l10mr1299087yhm.36.1321075561602; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:26:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.13.92] ([122.147.240.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v5sm40312720anf.3.2011.11.11.21.26.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:26:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EBE0365.40409@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:25:57 -0900 From: Melinda Shore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47614D546@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 05:26:05 -0000 On 11/11/11 19:52, Wilmer van der Gaast wrote: > I had something similar for TWD 1300 last night. It seems to be a car > rental/limo taxi service, right at arrivals, near the ATM. The lady > was worried that they had no taxi available at that moment - but I was > on my way in less than five minutes, no queueing or standing in the > rain or whatever. Ditto - I was walking from the ATM towards the taxi stand and was waylaid by someone asking if I needed a taxi. Having poor judgment and a sense of adventure I said "yes." It was fine, and cost the standard $1300TWD and involved less than no waiting. Melinda From ole@cisco.com Fri Nov 11 22:58:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA00721F8540 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:58:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.423 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.423 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.176, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e3r6HRs4utTM for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F38DA21F8511 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:58:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=367; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321081130; x=1322290730; h=date:from:reply-to:to:subject:message-id:mime-version; bh=RtKie2IzcGWlWSeMzRl3QrNzDCbXrpDpsOAZdm6irII=; b=ACdwsqd7eYZ+xAdCcqptKdRPQ8BSljn4nBAAz8yGDXDBcJj/S4u0Rb2j XgBz3me7S+pUiYcyT6efHMFuyYib31/hy6NqSVJPzeOWZR+tlP4F8rHih i/0evCNcRa7Pd8ryQcW9rX6fOObvHpPwji8J5myC0NSHTgN5U50rjg8v7 Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EACoYvk6rRDoH/2dsb2JhbAA/A6ougQWCCwECASSBYRwTIp58gSYBgy4PAZovhmWDGgSIEJZqh04 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,498,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="13828612" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2011 06:58:49 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com (sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com [10.21.84.201]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAC6wnPJ016668 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 06:58:49 GMT Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:58:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: IETF 82 Attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [82attendees] Apple stuff X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 06:58:50 -0000 On Level B1 of the Taipei 101 shopping center there is a "Studio A" (Premium Apple Reseller) if you need a power adapter or something like that. ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo From mellon@fugue.com Fri Nov 11 23:19:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3918E21F848B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:19:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id caO9CIfsLR6F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6E721F848A for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.43.39] (unknown [101.12.106.137]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20219238073B; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:19:20 -0500 (EST) References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com> <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:19:30 +0800 To: "jarrett.lu@oracle.com" Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:19:22 -0000 On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:17 AM, "jarrett.lu@oracle.com" w= rote: > As Jakob pointed out, Bus 2060, Taipei - Taoyuan East line, is the one. Ac= cording to the website, the last bus leaving TPE airport at 1 AM. So you sho= uld be OK. The bus drops passengers off at the side door of Grand Hyatt. It t= akes about 70 minutes from TPE to Hyatt. Warning: this is a stinky old-school bus, not a luxury liner. I'm sure it w= ill get me there, but I am wishing I'd chosen a different option, which is n= ot something I usually say about public transport.=20= From mellon@fugue.com Fri Nov 11 23:31:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9C311E8081 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:31:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AquZftYM4n1y for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:31:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BFAA11E8073 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.43.39] (unknown [101.12.106.137]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E8AED238073B; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:31:29 -0500 (EST) References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com> <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> <4EBE2046.4020208@opus1.com> In-Reply-To: <4EBE2046.4020208@opus1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:31:41 +0800 To: Joel M Snyder Cc: "jarrett.lu@oracle.com" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:31:34 -0000 On Nov 12, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Joel M Snyder wrote: > But I guess the point is that they do have more than one kind and they're= not all old and stinky. Cold comfort if you get the stinky bus! :)= From randy@psg.com Fri Nov 11 23:35:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9AD11E8081 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:35:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.588 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.588 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.011, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ox0A-UUO80CC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0427A11E8073 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:35:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RP87d-000KyF-9x for 82attendees@ietf.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:35:29 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:35:28 +0800 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [82attendees] temp X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:35:30 -0000 i was recently in the terminal room. even though it is not extreme, i suggest that those who dislike aircon should bring something slightly protective. randy From mellon@fugue.com Fri Nov 11 23:45:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B515D11E8080 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:45:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.601, BAYES_50=0.001, FUZZY_CPILL=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_66=0.6, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tguf-9EZOz9x for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E4E21F8500 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:45:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.43.39] (unknown [101.12.106.137]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 26B4C238073B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:45:10 -0500 (EST) References: <4EB0625E.6020008@viagenie.ca> <007101cc9d05$b2d45940$187d0bc0$@gmail.com> <4EB815EF.1010505@alum.mit.edu> <4A95BA014132FF49AE685FAB4B9F17F6120BBA3C@dfweml506-mbx> <20663E71FC2D1A4F93B14C99CA81D8900252FC8F@EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk> From: Ted Lemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) In-Reply-To: <20663E71FC2D1A4F93B14C99CA81D8900252FC8F@EXCH1-ITSC.itsc.cuhk.edu.hk> Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:45:15 +0800 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [82attendees] easy way to get around in Taipei if youdon'tspeak Chinese X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:45:11 -0000 On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:41 PM, "KT So (ITSC)" wrote: > I would recommend to do this in shops at the airport if you can as shops i= nside the city may not know how to handle application for foreigners (though= those near TICC may be able to) and those purchased from the airport can be= activated within much shorter time. And also you need at least two identit= y document with photo. I used passport and ID card before. This was excellent advice. The cell phone shop was not in an obvious locatio= n, but I was able to find it by following the information signs, and had a w= orking sim card in my googlefone in no time.=20= From richard.barnes@gmail.com Fri Nov 11 23:54:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C9111E8088 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:54:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4w7hFsGHSYih for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB42A11E8087 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:54:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so4502910eyg.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:54:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nbrQxOe73rvhTt80XR154EjaQ+lyAcoYa0GoAgD9s9g=; b=cNthWJKOEnEkVbTezPykOW0reVSkWyMznJodfXYRGCVnLMyRqy1HC1RE8ryR24/v/6 hAerAtcYzcGmmuOGmS3P4YMwtk54xR8RA4uRW1ZCN3arEN1eM5z3IQhY6KgUiVLbLLxu na8ZMSwrXPHn2QcPEyXjolmbqbu0OYTz06NUs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.12.193 with SMTP id 41mr1204583eez.16.1321084449930; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:54:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.185.144 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:54:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:54:09 +0000 Message-ID: From: Richard Barnes To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [82attendees] Why no IPv6? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:54:11 -0000 Noted the following in the "Things to note" page: " If you made your reservation in the IETF block your room will be on a specified floor with wired IETF network access. Because of the hotel equipment, there will not be IPv6 access. " Can anyone advise on what the problem is with the host network equipment? --Richard From jrmii@isc.org Sat Nov 12 00:03:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D677421F8496 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:03:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jnjtNt4PvMxa for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.ams1.isc.org (mx.ams1.isc.org [IPv6:2001:500:60::65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791F121F8491 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:03:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from bikeshed.isc.org (bikeshed.isc.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:3:d::19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "bikeshed.isc.org", Issuer "ISC CA" (verified OK)) by mx.ams1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 339A15F98A6; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:02:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrmii@isc.org) Received: from dhcp-404e.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-404e.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.64.78]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by bikeshed.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5562B216C83; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:02:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jrmii@isc.org) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Jim Martin In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:02:22 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8B797D00-2678-406A-A4FB-1F97FA2FC8A1@isc.org> References: To: Richard Barnes , 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [82attendees] Why no IPv6? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:03:34 -0000 That's actually an error ... a note from Quebec that snuck into = this announcement. Once the floors that are getting the IETF net are cut = over (tomorrow mid-day), you should have native and public v4 and v6 on = the WIRED link. The wireless will remain on the traditional Hyatt = network (albeit with more bandwidth brought in just in case) To the question of "Am I on an IETF floor", you are if you = booked in the IETF block. If you book in another block (corporate, etc), = you should let the front desk know and they'll do the best they can.=20 - Jim On Nov 12, 2011, at 3:54 PM, Richard Barnes wrote: > Noted the following in the "Things to note" page: > " > If you made your reservation in the IETF block your room will be on a > specified floor with wired IETF network access. Because of the hotel > equipment, there will not be IPv6 access. > " >=20 > Can anyone advise on what the problem is with the host network = equipment? >=20 > --Richard > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From Joel.Snyder@Opus1.COM Fri Nov 11 23:29:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DBC11E8081 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:29:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.046 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.046 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LDcupbo0iRxu for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from Viola.Opus1.COM (Viola.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0304B11E8073 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-565c.meeting.ietf.org ([130.129.86.92]) by Opus1.COM (PMDF V6.5-x6 #9830) with ESMTPSA id <01O8BAMR1LLG9JGXGU@Opus1.COM> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:29:12 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:29:10 +0800 From: Joel M Snyder In-reply-to: To: Ted Lemon Message-id: <4EBE2046.4020208@opus1.com> Organization: Opus One, Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com> <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:09:04 -0800 Cc: "jarrett.lu@oracle.com" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:29:15 -0000 Actually, the bus changes; they have luxury liners running that route which is what I caught last night at 8:30 PM. I also saw another 2060 bus swing by at the airport which was older and might fall into your categorization of "stinky old school bus;" it certainly looked it. But I guess the point is that they do have more than one kind and they're not all old and stinky. jms On 11/12/11 3:19 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:17 AM, "jarrett.lu@oracle.com" wrote: >> As Jakob pointed out, Bus 2060, Taipei - Taoyuan East line, is the one. According to the website, the last bus leaving TPE airport at 1 AM. So you should be OK. The bus drops passengers off at the side door of Grand Hyatt. It takes about 70 minutes from TPE to Hyatt. > > Warning: this is a stinky old-school bus, not a luxury liner. I'm sure it will get me there, but I am wishing I'd chosen a different option, which is not something I usually say about public transport. > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees -- Joel M Snyder, 1404 East Lind Road, Tucson, AZ, 85719 Senior Partner, Opus One Phone: +1 520 324 0494 jms@Opus1.COM http://www.opus1.com/jms From moulchan@cisco.com Sat Nov 12 00:45:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8DD21F858C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:45:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HgpYuvxEIaBu for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:45:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com [173.37.86.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F9C21F8564 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:45:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=moulchan@cisco.com; l=1869; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321087529; x=1322297129; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date: message-id:in-reply-to:references:from:to:cc; bh=cOQ4C2ATfVuVhFnOu34J4EQVPConmosDIkkMcHdFhbw=; b=WZVbeGQ+FEhfzDhjO5lXIA7CmHhLAH8dwAjBHLu2HWE+RYtc1yY/48h0 7QM70tvg18iFXPx5fpiMUsXdYcdLcJmdTnsLHC51D5f1vhy61W3/SMstG fpDcQHoPe8NpDXHcyMNbu4qSV0awm1e4JmQECcK8tPYuDhL5PYWkF52VB Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArAAAOQxvk6tJXG//2dsb2JhbAA/A5ookAaBBYFyAQEBBAEBAQ8BHQo0AwgMAgICAQgRBAEBAQoGFwEGARoMHwkIAQEEARIIGodomBsBnW0ChmOCN2MEiBCRYoUIh0w X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,499,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="35286438" Received: from rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com ([173.37.113.191]) by rcdn-iport-6.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Nov 2011 08:45:28 +0000 Received: from xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com (xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com [72.163.62.201]) by rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAC8jShP010433; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:45:28 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-106.cisco.com ([72.163.62.148]) by xbh-rcd-202.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:45:28 -0600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:45:24 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4EBE2046.4020208@opus1.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? Thread-Index: AcyhElq72VtRp5E6RmSNwAM+KSgghAABPeBA References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com><62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com><4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> <4EBE2046.4020208@opus1.com> From: "Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)" To: "Joel M Snyder" , "Ted Lemon" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Nov 2011 08:45:28.0401 (UTC) FILETIME=[6DB83410:01CCA117] Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:45:29 -0000 Does the 2160 bus also stop near AT Boutique hotel ?=20 Thanks Mouli -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joel M Snyder Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:59 PM To: Ted Lemon Cc: jarrett.lu@oracle.com; 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? Actually, the bus changes; they have luxury liners running that route=20 which is what I caught last night at 8:30 PM. I also saw another 2060=20 bus swing by at the airport which was older and might fall into your=20 categorization of "stinky old school bus;" it certainly looked it. But=20 I guess the point is that they do have more than one kind and they're=20 not all old and stinky. jms On 11/12/11 3:19 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:17 AM, "jarrett.lu@oracle.com" wrote: >> As Jakob pointed out, Bus 2060, Taipei - Taoyuan East line, is the one. According to the website, the last bus leaving TPE airport at 1 AM. So you should be OK. The bus drops passengers off at the side door of Grand Hyatt. It takes about 70 minutes from TPE to Hyatt. > > Warning: this is a stinky old-school bus, not a luxury liner. I'm sure it will get me there, but I am wishing I'd chosen a different option, which is not something I usually say about public transport. > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees --=20 Joel M Snyder, 1404 East Lind Road, Tucson, AZ, 85719 Senior Partner, Opus One Phone: +1 520 324 0494 jms@Opus1.COM http://www.opus1.com/jms _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From chelliot@gmail.com Sat Nov 12 03:22:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BDE21F852E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:22:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.31 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.31 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XRHcP3074zII for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f44.google.com (mail-ww0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C0F21F8508 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by wwe5 with SMTP id 5so1757696wwe.13 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:22:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=wOp7JJCisFqgq8F1I2+UuMAElg9SPb2Il6sRGgXDR0k=; b=GK8fJ52SHgT5PEc5ROSRnJAvlyTwbWzyKvi1uuKcfCsVBzXOhSVibSbAk3bk7C3TDy jZeOgXCtJCQ+4zU96teuQ3lefXvk+for4vcppHplfAw7l4iNLyDT6s/AeLHZUjqlxZkX FjDaECABQhXCxjwNPYOuUoLQ3+uYTo5kwnJLE= Received: by 10.216.12.82 with SMTP id 60mr39122wey.97.1321096957179; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:22:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chelliot@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.29.8 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:22:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EBDE520.7020504@ogud.com> References: <4EBDE520.7020504@ogud.com> From: Chris Elliott Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:22:16 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9D9oeNM7wt4tYPutwqyaLcp5iN4 Message-ID: To: Olafur Gudmundsson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364d25dbd8b87704b187da62 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Report on Hyatt net X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: chelliot@pobox.com List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 11:22:39 -0000 --0016364d25dbd8b87704b187da62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As at test, we moved some rooms in the Hyatt over to the IETF. I ran Netalyzr against my room, with these results: http://n1.netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/summary/id=43ca253f-29383-ff605edf-e361-40e6-8662 Chris. On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: > On 11/11/2011 20:49, Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Samuel Weiler wrote: >> >> Here are some Netalyzer reports from the Hyatt net (pre-IETF-takeover): >>> http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.**edu/restore/id=43ca208a-24438-** >>> 68da33e7-be30-4657-9e30 >>> http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.**edu/restore/id=43ca208a-24438-** >>> a0ca2c2e-ee22-45ca-b441 >>> >> >> For "comparison", here are the results from the Howard Plaza room >> wireless: >> >> http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.**edu/restore/id=43ca208a-24400-** >> d2fe6e53-f0be-4ffa-9846 >> >> Here is AT Boutique hotel > http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.**edu/restore/id=43ca253f-29405-** > fc8c2528-a121-489e-8f0c > > Olafur > > ______________________________**_________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/82attendees > -- Chris Elliott chelliot@pobox.com --0016364d25dbd8b87704b187da62 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As at test, we moved some rooms in the Hyatt over to the IETF. I ran Netaly= zr against my room, with these results:


Chris.

On Sat, Nov 12= , 2011 at 11:16 AM, Olafur Gudmundsson <ogud@ogud.com> wrote:
On 11/11/2011 20:49, Paul Hoffman wrote:
On Nov 11, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Samuel Weiler wrote:

Here are some Netalyzer reports from the Hyatt net (pre-IETF-takeover): http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.= edu/restore/id=3D43ca208a-24438-68da33e7-be30-4657-9e30
http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.<= /u>edu/restore/id=3D43ca208a-24438-a0ca2c2e-ee22-45ca-b441

For "comparison", here are the results from the Howard Plaza room= wireless:

http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.<= /u>edu/restore/id=3D43ca208a-24400-d2fe6e53-f0be-4ffa-9846

Here is AT Boutique hotel
http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.<= /u>edu/restore/id=3D43ca253f-29405-fc8c2528-a121-489e-8f0c

Olafur

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charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcygtMLRWb0dWS6LRpO4Ax1+1O+/hwAgcgtw Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pACD5bHV071863 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 13:05:52 -0000 Ming De Vegetarian restaurant is a cheap choice at B2 of the A8 building = of Shin Kong Mitsukoshi department store. The cost is depend on how much = food you take. Easy House Vegetarian Cuisine at 3F of the Neo 19 (a building next to = Warner Bros) provides good Chinese vegetarian cuisine (NT$300-500/person). There are some small vegetarian restaurants at the Wu-Hsin St. nearby = but I cannot remember their name. Reen-Cheng Wang -----Original Message----- From: Ted Lemon [mailto:mellon@fugue.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 4:59 AM To: =A4=FD=A7=D4=A6=A8 Cc: <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants On Nov 12, 2011, at 1:45 AM, =A4=FD=A7=D4=A6=A8 = wrote: > "Tien Yuen (means rural) Taiwanese Restaurant" at No. 2, DongFon St.=20 > (just cross the Fu-Hsin S.Rd., from the Howard Plaza hotel and walk=20 > 50M right) provide good Taiwanese food. Any advice on where to get good cheap vegetarian chinese food near the venue? From johnl@iecc.com Sat Nov 12 07:32:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7381C21F85AE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:32:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.564 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.564 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z+9jCY2Us3Wv for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:32:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75D221F856F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:32:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 52593 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2011 15:32:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=cd70.4ebe918e.k1111; bh=H+f45lv4+1JrI+rFLm8KJkS+0eHMvaa0fBhhrIyJlew=; b=tBR10x5uuDTX+4zHeks2UGG8YykLnEbNsAIE+4jRWx62DbucK7OsdB6v2c4sgn3WdQT4kE3Co1dPpqwYhentSsW9T8ajiWu6xgaHcKq75AbIX7fwOo9mrkdo1KqoC9uzTmAzxa6PS9b033LMzNaT+y9U5pidgOYUKidHHWVOgko= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 12 Nov 2011 15:32:08 -0000 Date: 12 Nov 2011 23:32:24 +0800 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" In-Reply-To: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Italian Restaurants X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:32:33 -0000 > Are there any decent Italian restaurants near the meeting venue or Grand Hyatt? Don't know if it's decent but I walked past a place called I Love Pasta that had a variety of Italian style pasta and sauce. It's on Keelung Rd, the road the Hyatt is on, about three blocks south on the left. R's, John From agmalis@gmail.com Sat Nov 12 07:45:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4870621F86A6 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:45:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OF5V4cC3+aGt for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9439921F85CE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by qadb40 with SMTP id b40so3237347qad.10 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:45:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=nRq7CVI0Fs6oBuIMSQ3LAKCuHdp1k49HfiJ0pCdjaEI=; b=NOHoh8QC4Zsg97FROthChalMSKpS1VLQPpMx65mp3emq1gQAaaCSbWKbGx8z6THoQW DXntUB6Rm1z22vtJXKPVD4dpUPrppSpBOOmKWlHGsHdwAvGvSeIGdGkZp8M3Ai7qreYc Xm5fP6pAgXhwNoeZUgf4ePR3Fhq+vgXheL2yY= Received: by 10.229.247.195 with SMTP id md3mr2531376qcb.70.1321112740150; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:45:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.251.12 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 07:45:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:45:19 +0800 Message-ID: To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [82attendees] Hyatt will put taxi fee on your hotel bill X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:45:41 -0000 For a 5% surcharge, when you arrive at the Hyatt, they will pay out the taxi driver in cash and put it on your hotel bill. That's useful if you want to conserve your cash for other uses. I asked the taxi driver if he took credit cards, and he arranged the payment with the hotel doorman. It came to TWD 1313 including the surcharge. At around 9:30 PM on Saturday, there was no wait at all for regular metered taxis. Cheers, Andy From richard.barnes@gmail.com Sat Nov 12 15:22:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1052321F85AA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:22:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tliIbNIZuH+P for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEBAD21F85A1 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:22:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so4810460eyg.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:22:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G2OfIUEUzEukKZ3Br04gJG9T28KoM5FIWs9DZ1VDH0I=; b=X7CIZMuaKMH5ysIDUuCVxi1/JbpBY9DTn2mUwprQnqLKAjEsCTyTM1XbySCIXEbEkq TsX9beIw7FsuP3qjrRQ8CYg04NYx3o7A2/EjfG8+txCCteWLgP6T2AMG2yb8vtV8MZRK ckYqwbXZPpT03Quz51JbNBovmjKL+PbzES7jw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.15.90 with SMTP id e66mr1298551eee.135.1321140158819; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:22:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.185.144 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:22:38 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:22:38 +0000 Message-ID: From: Richard Barnes To: Cullen Jennings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Coffee at Notch X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:22:44 -0000 FWIW, some helpful Gowalla users seem to have mapped out these places. From what little I know, the map points seem consistent with Cullen's directions. Black Bar: Notch: On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:37 AM, Cullen Jennings wrote: > > Another place with a micro roast culture going on. Nice vibe. Comfy couch= es. Cappuccino was better than anything at start bucks and espresso I got w= as a bit over extracted. Nice baker across street on the corner. > > If you were walking to Black Bar from the conference center and turned le= ft on the street before Black Bar and went a few blocks you would find it. = Oh and you go by a good baker on way. I realize theses instructions are use= less but really, just wander around randomly and you will find lots of cool= stuff. > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From wlo@amsl.com Sat Nov 12 15:50:43 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6D821F84BC; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:50:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2ZNxn71wXUqZ; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:50:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B3D21F8512; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:50:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDD612C9C9; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:50:43 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zgb75kGdf9pn; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:50:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-26b0.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-26b0.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.38.176]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 30C7C12C8B9; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:50:42 -0800 (PST) From: Wanda Lo Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--762742951 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 15:50:40 -0800 Message-Id: <65F644F6-DBDC-4299-A960-7BE02FB33DB6@amsl.com> To: 82attendees@ietf.org, 82all@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [82attendees] 82nd IETF Agenda Changes to Printed/Pocket Agenda X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:50:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail-2--762742951 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just as a reminder to everyone, the agenda on the IETF website = (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/82/agenda.html) always has the = most up-to-date information. Please note the following changes are not reflected on the = printed/pocket agenda. **MONDAY, November 14, 2011 1510-1160 Afternoon Session II -Canceled: CUSS -Room Changed: DCON - in room 102 **TUESDAY, November 15, 2011 1300-1500 Afternoon Session I -Room Changed: NETMOD - in room 101A -New Addition: SIDR - in room 101C -Canceled: PKIX 1520-1700 Afternoon Session II Moved: KITTTEN - Moved TO Tuesday Afternoon Session III 1710-1810 1710-1810 Afternoon Session III New Addition: KITTEN - in room 101C **WEDNESDAY, November 15, 2011 0900-1130 Morning Session I -Combined: BFCPBIS/ECRIT - in room 3F Banquet **THURSDAY, November 16, 2011 1520-1720 Afternoon Session II -Canceled: ANCP 1740-1940 Afternoon Session III -Canceled: LISP **FRIDAY, July 29, 2011 0900-1100 Morning Session I -Moved: SIDR - Moved to Tuesday Afternoon Session I 1300-1500 Thanks, Wanda =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Wanda Lo / Project Manager Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) 48377 Fremont Blvd., Ste. 117=20 Fremont, California 94538 / USA=20 T: +1.510.492.4082 F: +1.510.492.4001=20 www.ietf.org =20 -- Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com --Apple-Mail-2--762742951 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Just as a = reminder to everyone, the agenda on the IETF website (https://datat= racker.ietf.org/meeting/82/agenda.html) always has the most up-to-date = information.

Please note the = following changes are not reflected on the printed/pocket = agenda.

**MONDAY, November 14, = 2011
1510-1160 Afternoon Session = II
-Canceled:
CUSS

-Room = Changed:
DCON - in room = 102


**TUESDAY, November 15, = 2011
1300-1500 Afternoon Session = I
-Room Changed:
NETMOD - in room = 101A

-New Addition:
SIDR - in = room = 101C

-Canceled:
PKIX

1520-1700 Afternoon Session = II
Moved:
KITTTEN - Moved TO Tuesday Afternoon = Session III 1710-1810

1710-1810 Afternoon = Session III
New Addition:
KITTEN - in room = 101C


**WEDNESDAY, November = 15, 2011
0900-1130 Morning Session = I
-Combined:
BFCPBIS/ECRIT - in room 3F = Banquet


**THURSDAY, November = 16, 2011
1520-1720 Afternoon Session = II
-Canceled:
ANCP

174= 0-1940 Afternoon Session = III
-Canceled:
LISP


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**FRIDAY, July 29, 2011
0900-1100 Morning = Session I
-Moved:
SIDR - Moved to Tuesday = Afternoon Session I = 1300-1500




Thanks,
Wanda



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= --Apple-Mail-2--762742951-- From touch@isi.edu Sat Nov 12 16:02:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C335521F8490 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:02:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.466 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.466 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.133, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WwMxMcngV1Fo for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from darkstar.isi.edu (darkstar.isi.edu [128.9.128.127]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3FA21F848F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:01:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.35.1.4] (pc3.shinagawaphvod2-unet.ocn.ne.jp [220.110.141.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by darkstar.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAD01Te0013310 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:01:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EBF08D7.5020502@isi.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:01:27 -0800 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Subject: [82attendees] request for someone coming from US who hasn't left yet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:02:06 -0000 Hi, all, If anyone has not yet left the US and can do me a small favor, please contact me off-list. I forgot a small item that is hard to find overseas. Thanks, Joe From msk@cloudmark.com Sat Nov 12 16:48:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2014A21F84B3 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:48:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.303 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.303 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.295, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vx3fusGzi6FW for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ht1-outbound.cloudmark.com (ht1-outbound.cloudmark.com [72.5.239.35]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245F021F84B2 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from EXCH-C2.corp.cloudmark.com ([172.22.1.74]) by malice.corp.cloudmark.com ([172.22.10.71]) with mapi; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:48:16 -0800 From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:48:15 -0800 Thread-Topic: There's another technical conference going on Thread-Index: Acyhne3EKt8dRBGvS0OQKgL36r8PTQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F5833273385BB34F99288B3648C4F06F19C6C14FE7EXCHC2corpclo_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [82attendees] There's another technical conference going on X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:48:24 -0000 --_000_F5833273385BB34F99288B3648C4F06F19C6C14FE7EXCHC2corpclo_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In line at breakfast today I started up a conversation with another English= -speaker who started asking me what time the conference starts, etc. I ask= ed him what he's here working on, and he said "UAVs: unmanned drones". I a= sked what area that's in, and at that point we both realized we're here for= different conferences. Being jet lagged, I still wonder: Would unmanned drones be in RAI or APPS? --_000_F5833273385BB34F99288B3648C4F06F19C6C14FE7EXCHC2corpclo_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In line at break= fast today I started up a conversation with another English-speaker who sta= rted asking me what time the conference starts, etc.  I asked him what= he’s here working on, and he said “UAVs: unmanned drones”= ;.  I asked what area that’s in, and at that point we both reali= zed we’re here for different conferences.

 

Being jet lagged, I still= wonder:  Would unmanned drones be in RAI or APPS?

 

= --_000_F5833273385BB34F99288B3648C4F06F19C6C14FE7EXCHC2corpclo_-- From stpeter@stpeter.im Sat Nov 12 16:50:49 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A09CF1F0C35 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:50:49 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v3-RaA1YhAUq for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B1271F0C34 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 16:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-13ac.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [130.129.19.172]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3A35404FF; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:56:54 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4EBF1466.2060504@stpeter.im> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:50:46 +0800 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] There's another technical conference going on X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:50:49 -0000 On 11/13/11 8:48 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > In line at breakfast today I started up a conversation with another > English-speaker who started asking me what time the conference starts, > etc. I asked him what he’s here working on, and he said “UAVs: unmanned > drones”. I asked what area that’s in, and at that point we both realized > we’re here for different conferences. > > Being jet lagged, I still wonder: Would unmanned drones be in RAI or APPS? Security. :) From dhc@dcrocker.net Sat Nov 12 17:15:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1CA421F891D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:15:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YIwgRSNsHO+5 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:15:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358B721F88B7 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:15:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.229] (61-31-89-133.static.tfn.net.tw [61.31.89.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAD1FfvG024659 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:15:53 -0800 Message-ID: <4EBF1A3C.3090905@dcrocker.net> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:15:40 +0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EBF1466.2060504@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <4EBF1466.2060504@stpeter.im> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:15:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [82attendees] There's another technical conference going on X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 01:15:55 -0000 >> Being jet lagged, I still wonder: Would unmanned drones be in RAI or APPS? > > Security. :) depends on their mission. actually there's some basis for claiming that 'unmanned drones' describes quite a lot of on-going IETF participation. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From randy@psg.com Sat Nov 12 17:26:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC3421F8AC3 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:26:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.589 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.589 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.010, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KKXS9tA4GvU0 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 266C021F8ABE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RPOqB-000NIf-Bn; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 01:26:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:26:34 +0800 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] There's another technical conference going on X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 01:26:36 -0000 > Would unmanned drones be in RAI or APPS? neither. we do not gender discriminate. From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Sat Nov 12 17:37:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419FC11E8085 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:37:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -108.462 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-108.462 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z1Suqt97QQLx for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com (PacdcIMO01.cable.comcast.com [24.40.8.145]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F2011E8082 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ([24.40.55.41]) by pacdcimo01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id 5503620.146065683; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:37:13 -0500 Received: from PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com ([fe80::6134:ea50:286a:c0]) by PACDCEXHUB02.cable.comcast.com ([fe80::11d4:f530:37a0:9f4e%11]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 20:37:13 -0500 From: "Livingood, Jason" To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [82attendees] There's another technical conference going on Thread-Index: Acyhne3EKt8dRBGvS0OQKgL36r8PTQAc85IA Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 01:37:13 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 x-originating-ip: [147.191.125.12] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CAE53FE44242Cjasonlivingoodcablecomcastcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] There's another technical conference going on X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 01:37:21 -0000 --_000_CAE53FE44242Cjasonlivingoodcablecomcastcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't miss this opportunity to pass along a site that Eric Burger tipped = me to. I'm now trying to figure out how to get my 8 year old interested eno= ugh in this as a project so I can have a better excuse to play around with = it. ;-) http://diydrones.com/ Jason On 11/13/11 8:48 AM, "Murray S. Kucherawy" > wrote: In line at breakfast today I started up a conversation with another English= -speaker who started asking me what time the conference starts, etc. I ask= ed him what he=92s here working on, and he said =93UAVs: unmanned drones=94= . I asked what area that=92s in, and at that point we both realized we=92r= e here for different conferences. Being jet lagged, I still wonder: Would unmanned drones be in RAI or APPS? _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82= attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailma= n/listinfo/82attendees --_000_CAE53FE44242Cjasonlivingoodcablecomcastcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <88A4384242974E4C96B10970E57FF0BF@cable.comcast.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I can't miss this opportunity to pass along a site that Eric Burger ti= pped me to. I'm now trying to figure out how to get my 8 year old intereste= d enough in this as a project so I can have a better excuse to play around = with it. ;-)


Jason

On 11/13/11 8:48 AM, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <msk@cloudmark.com> wrote:

In line at breakfast today I started up a conversati= on with another English-speaker who started asking me what time the confere= nce starts, etc.  I asked him what he=92s here working on, and he said= =93UAVs: unmanned drones=94.  I asked what area that=92s in, and at that point we both realized we=92re here for different= conferences.

 

Being jet lagged, I still wonder:  Would unmann= ed drones be in RAI or APPS?

 

_______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees
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Fantastic! I've been watching my neighbor Lei playing it for years, di= dn't know there is such a good website.

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 12, 2011, at 5:37 PM, "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com> wrote:

I can't miss this opportunity to pass along a site that Eric Burger ti= pped me to. I'm now trying to figure out how to get my 8 year old intereste= d enough in this as a project so I can have a better excuse to play around = with it. ;-)

Jason

On 11/13/11 8:48 AM, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <msk@cloudm= ark.com> wrote:

In line at breakfast today I started up a conversati= on with another English-speaker who started asking me what time the confere= nce starts, etc.  I asked him what he=92s here working on, and he said= =93UAVs: unmanned drones=94.  I asked what area that=92s in, and at that point we both realized we=92re here for different= conferences.

 

Being jet lagged, I still wonder:  Would unmann= ed drones be in RAI or APPS?

 

_______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://w= ww.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees
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charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Joe Touch Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:12:29 +0900 To: Joe Touch X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] request for someone coming from US who hasn't left yet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:13:02 -0000 Hi all,=20 Many thank to those who replied. I'm all set.=20 Joe On Nov 13, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Joe Touch wrote: > Hi, all, >=20 > If anyone has not yet left the US and can do me a small favor, please cont= act me off-list. I forgot a small item that is hard to find overseas. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Joe From jefftant@gmail.com Sat Nov 12 19:13:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0974A1F0C49 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:13:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0rO97s0IG98H for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:13:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f50.google.com (mail-pz0-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943641F0C47 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:13:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk5 with SMTP id 5so5917171pzk.9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:13:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=SnOEdICNTDovfIdDkh1ceb+1IOPStPOzzgD75bGXJt8=; b=Pr9xca5V1Vvf3W0Ampps9phDtSvm3iPa0fETzi9c87muE81j9QmG4+U1zaTtnu3UK1 qaIShtskkaHCoHapEhgmNwCyLysz+Z2gz8OqSNzX1ifeJp3JyywuX6eGjs1LJYeSe9Tg mGJlMNphrsw0zg6OX1S6JvbM1DXZgAhTYLGwM= Received: by 10.68.19.129 with SMTP id f1mr23812040pbe.3.1321153999860; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.12.136] ([122.147.240.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jm5sm44183139pbc.1.2011.11.12.19.13.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:13:19 -0800 (PST) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Jeff Tantsura Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:13:17 +0800 To: "Andrew G. Malis" Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Hyatt will put taxi fee on your hotel bill X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:13:21 -0000 If you are at Shangri-la when checking in/asking hotel to pay your taxi bill= , join Shangri-la's golden circle and they will waive 5% surcharge. Regards, Jeff On Nov 12, 2011, at 11:45 PM, "Andrew G. Malis" wrote: > For a 5% surcharge, when you arrive at the Hyatt, they will pay out > the taxi driver in cash and put it on your hotel bill. That's useful > if you want to conserve your cash for other uses. I asked the taxi > driver if he took credit cards, and he arranged the payment with the > hotel doorman. It came to TWD 1313 including the surcharge. >=20 > At around 9:30 PM on Saturday, there was no wait at all for regular > metered taxis. >=20 > Cheers, > Andy > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From mrducky@gmail.com Sat Nov 12 21:52:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5559C21F8A6C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:52:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.932 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.932 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GrzFt2SK3mvD for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:52:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ww0-f44.google.com (mail-ww0-f44.google.com [74.125.82.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0680F21F84CD for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by wwe5 with SMTP id 5so2159661wwe.13 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:52:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fVLP6p0d3EVNUYH3llfJY2mgETWIJzw81IyAUtjbipY=; b=w+7vZLiLvhCm7MuiFZ09XRSm1MDqxHzA13grErGvkZ4LLQMDKIfADcD/LGqXqyVrwM ItEdnkYPtRwTvRsIKX4TNozUD9tvFnwOOXGkPnnqgMM8Iy0YTDjS/JfKxsH2TNxT30rG E4Kp7iCj8XaAqKCfnA2QAb48cB/IO5arZHctA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.81.163 with SMTP id b3mr20195293wiy.20.1321163533462; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.96.169 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 21:52:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com> <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:52:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mark Duckworth To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044402721a2e1004b1975bc2 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 05:52:16 -0000 --f46d044402721a2e1004b1975bc2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 For bus 2060, make sure the driver knows you want the Grand Hyatt. My driver went right past, because he thought nobody on the bus was getting off there. Even though the other guy taking tickets asked me twice and I told him twice the Grand Hyatt. Apparently I never got on the list he gave the driver. Anyway, it was a nice easy walk from the City Hall Bus Station (the next stop) back to the Hyatt :) Mark Duckworth On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:17 PM, jarrett.lu@oracle.com < jarrett.lu@oracle.com> wrote: > Hi Dan, > > As Jakob pointed out, Bus 2060, Taipei - Taoyuan East line, is the one. > According to the website, the last bus leaving TPE airport at 1 AM. So you > should be OK. The bus drops passengers off at the side door of Grand Hyatt. > It takes about 70 minutes from TPE to Hyatt. > > Let me know if you need more info. > > - Jarrett > > > > On 10/31/11 06:21, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > >> Hi Jarrett, >> >> Do you know more details about this shuttle? Does it need to be ordered >> in advance? Is it easy to find for a dis-oriented foreigner? Hours of >> operation? (my flight lands at 22:25) >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> >> Dan >> >> >> > ______________________________**_________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/82attendees > --f46d044402721a2e1004b1975bc2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For bus 2060, make = sure the driver knows you want the Grand Hyatt. =A0My driver went right pas= t, because he thought nobody on the bus was getting off there. =A0Even thou= gh the other guy taking tickets asked me twice and I told him twice the Gra= nd Hyatt. =A0Apparently I never got on the list he gave the driver.<= div style=3D"font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-co= lor: rgb(255, 255, 255); ">
Anyway, it was a nice easy walk from the City Hall Bus Station (the nex= t stop) back to the Hyatt :)

Mark Duckworth
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 2:17 PM, jarrett.lu@oracle.com &l= t;jarrett.lu@oracle.com> wrote:
Hi Dan,

As Jakob pointed out, Bus 2060, Taipei - Taoyuan East line, is the one. Acc= ording to the website, the last bus leaving TPE airport at 1 AM. So you sho= uld be OK. The bus drops passengers off at the side door of Grand Hyatt. It= takes about 70 minutes from TPE to Hyatt.

Let me know if you need more info.

- Jarrett



On 10/31/11 06:21, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
Hi Jarrett,

Do you know more details about this shuttle? Does it need to be ordered
in advance? Is it easy to find for a dis-oriented foreigner? Hours of
operation? (my flight lands at 22:25)

Thanks and Regards,

Dan



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--f46d044402721a2e1004b1975bc2-- From ole@cisco.com Sat Nov 12 22:28:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D4B11E809A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:28:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.136 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.136 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q6pwy4Bm-xuh for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-2.cisco.com (mtv-iport-2.cisco.com [173.36.130.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C9211E8080 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:28:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=347; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321165715; x=1322375315; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=XH5G/TSnDgjJuehZLbJO8C14vLHYyRgQkrWUjoDmIu0=; b=JPRK+tGtl6LmDL146urTjVpE1Ltpv1yRI//9ypPaeWgeNluVQS/ODiXZ B3HVm7XZcp6d0QQH9iT6e3c/R9qI/LWimdZX/kQWY1n6QAbuB9z0GHV9D NqU0SpVfqZP8M4dr30aMT4zsqwCRFMG1QDVvXJuqQY6RvXfrpd9DwOmab A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMHAO9iv06rRDoG/2dsb2JhbABBiUifb3YCgQWBcwEBBBIBJz8QAgFOVwEBBDWfegGdKYkcYwSIEIwehUSIJoQw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,502,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="13883843" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2011 06:28:35 +0000 Received: from xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com (xbh-sjc-211.cisco.com [171.70.151.144]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAD6SZoM007069; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:28:35 GMT Received: from xmb-sjc-21d.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.140]) by xbh-sjc-211.amer.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:28:35 -0800 Received: from 144.254.231.93 ([144.254.231.93]) by xmb-sjc-21d.amer.cisco.com ([171.70.151.140]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:28:34 +0000 References: <45484CD1-92D4-4404-9587-76738269CBBA@huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <45484CD1-92D4-4404-9587-76738269CBBA@huawei.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" thread-topic: Taipei 101 Observation Deck Ticket thread-index: AcyhzXfb+ItLDs4IRV+wLkKNdtUDaQ== Message-ID: <4A426D5F-9204-442A-80EF-24D167B4CF09@cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Ole Jacobsen (ole)" Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:28:46 -0800 To: "Tina TSOU" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2011 06:28:35.0442 (UTC) FILETIME=[78D3DD20:01CCA1CD] Cc: "Livingood, Jason" , 82attendees@ietf.org, "Murray S. Kucherawy" Subject: [82attendees] Taipei 101 Observation Deck Ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:28:36 -0000 Your Social Event ticket (if you got one) includes a *separate* ticket to th= e Taipei 101 Observation Deck on the 88th and 89th floor of Taipei 101. This= is NOT where the actual social event will be, but it is a cool place to see= , especially the 660 ton tuned mass damper. Open every day from 9am to 10pm.= Geek Factor =3D 9.73 Ole= From cabo@tzi.org Sat Nov 12 22:37:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69A4E21F8490 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:37:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cjq4OwlOBZ2e for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:37:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8725A21F8486 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:37:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAD6ajhB016891; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:36:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.237] (61-31-89-133.static.tfn.net.tw [61.31.89.133]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 618EC4B1; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:36:42 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:36:38 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0AB19BA2-29A5-4233-A71A-2954406DD8F9@tzi.org> References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com><62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com><4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> <4EBE2046.4020208@opus1.com> To: "Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: Joel M Snyder , Ted Lemon , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:37:19 -0000 > Does the 2160 bus also stop near AT Boutique hotel ?=20 No (I think you are talking about the 2060). =20 It is a 5 minute walk (rolling a suitcase) from the Grand Hyatt to the = AT Boutique: leave the Grand Hyatt front court to the left, make a left = on the big road, Jilong Road, and pass the two traffic lights at the = next big crossing (Xinyi road). =20 (Interestingly, the walk from the AT Boutique to the TICC is then just a = single overpass, instead of the wavy line the secretariat had to draw=85 = :-) Re the quality of the 2060 bus: I had something of an "old-school luxury = liner" with green plastic covering on the otherwise quite comfy, but run = down seats -- not a place I would want to spend a week in, but adequate = for the 70 minutes going to the Grand Hyatt. (It's not like going by = bus in places like Malta or the US.) Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten From mellon@fugue.com Sat Nov 12 23:09:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663C321F8AEE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:09:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.286 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.286 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sD3uh1rx7U8Q for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D6D21F8AED for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.13.155] (unknown [122.147.240.7]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 012FF2380532; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:08:58 -0500 (EST) References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com> <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:09:18 +0800 To: Mark Duckworth Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:09:03 -0000 On Nov 13, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Mark Duckworth wrote: > For bus 2060, make sure the driver knows you want the Grand Hyatt. My dri= ver went right past, because he thought nobody on the bus was getting off th= ere. Even though the other guy taking tickets asked me twice and I told him= twice the Grand Hyatt. Apparently I never got on the list he gave the driv= er. Interesting, the same thing nearly happened to me because the GPS wasn't upd= ating in realtime: we were stopped at the Shangri-La, but I didn't realize i= t was the Shangri-La until the bus driver was about to drive away. So yes,= please do be very vigilant. The sign at least at the Shangri-La is very s= mall and hard to read from the bus, because it stops at the back of the hote= l, not at the front entrance.= From mellon@fugue.com Sat Nov 12 23:13:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9EF21F8B21 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:13:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.459 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.459 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.745, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XKicwSBFPmLl for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93CB421F8B1E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.13.155] (unknown [122.147.240.7]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E1F5E2380532 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:13:30 -0500 (EST) References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com> <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> <4EBE2046.4020208@opus1.com> <0AB19BA2-29A5-4233-A71A-2954406DD8F9@tzi.org> From: Ted Lemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) In-Reply-To: <0AB19BA2-29A5-4233-A71A-2954406DD8F9@tzi.org> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:13:49 +0800 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:13:34 -0000 On Nov 13, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > (Interestingly, the walk from the AT Boutique to the TICC is then just a s= ingle overpass, instead of the wavy line the secretariat had to draw=A1=AD := -) Yup, I did the walk from the Shangri-La to the venue today, and passed the A= T Boutique on the way. It's certainly the closest, particularly if you go i= n the side entrance of the venue. The venue is walkable from the Shangri-l= a, but it's a long walk, and the taxi ride was about NTD85, so do it for the= exercise, not to economize. > Re the quality of the 2060 bus: I had something of an "old-school luxury l= iner" with green plastic covering on the otherwise quite comfy, but run down= seats -- not a place I would want to spend a week in, but adequate for the 7= 0 minutes going to the Grand Hyatt. (It's not like going by bus in places l= ike Malta or the US.) Hm, depends on the bus, probably just like anywhere else. I've definitely r= idden on much worse buses (e.g., in Nepal), but it was really a genuinely un= pleasant ride. The bus driver had a really heavy foot on the brake and the= accelerator, or else they were just very jerky; I very nearly demanded to b= e let out early so I could just take the train the rest of the way, but it s= eemed unlikely my whining would be understood.= From antti.makela@aalto.fi Sat Nov 12 23:22:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3491221F8B01 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:22:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.81 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.81 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TYjPQlI9M2nJ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx04.aalto.fi (mx04.aalto.fi [130.233.222.103]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E79B21F8AEE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:22:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx04.aalto.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 94B3CF0883; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:22:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from EXHUB03.org.aalto.fi (ex-hub03.org.aalto.fi [130.233.222.116]) by mx04.aalto.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813E2F087F; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:22:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from EXMDB08.org.aalto.fi ([169.254.8.79]) by EXHUB03.org.aalto.fi ([130.233.222.116]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:22:05 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=E4kel=E4_Antti?= To: Ted Lemon , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? Thread-Index: AQHModPKg81whldmwkSeSvgngzRArJWqZT/u Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:22:04 +0000 Message-ID: <64FACAB831EEEB418F27A18FE09095244E94FB9E@EXMDB08.org.aalto.fi> References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com> <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> <4EBE2046.4020208@opus1.com> <0AB19BA2-29A5-4233-A71A-2954406DD8F9@tzi.org>, <25014_1321168419_4EBF6E23_25014_514_1_BD9CDD2E-C2BC-444F-B43C-8135C607977B@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: <25014_1321168419_4EBF6E23_25014_514_1_BD9CDD2E-C2BC-444F-B43C-8135C607977B@fugue.com> Accept-Language: en-US, fi-FI Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.129.37.103] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:22:31 -0000 >Yup, I did the walk from the Shangri-La to the venue today, and passed the= AT Boutique on the =0A= >way. It's certainly the closest, particularly if you go in the side entr= ance of the venue. The=0A= >venue is walkable from the Shangri-la, but it's a long walk, and the taxi = ride was about NTD85, =0A= >so do it for the exercise, not to economize.=0A= =0A= You can just take bus 284 from Shangri La to TICC. Walk about 200m south to= the next big street and find a bus stop. Costs $15 with Easycard (can buy = one at 7/11 opposite the bus stop, or any other convenience store). =0A= =0A= See http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=3Dshanrgi+la+taipei&daddr=3Dticc,+tai= pei&hl=3Den&ll=3D25.028956,121.555052&spn=3D0.013318,0.028346&sll=3D61.4978= 56,23.759633&sspn=3D0.897797,3.628235&geocode=3DFSLgfQEdxbE-ByHsNQplvqdbDg%= 3BFdz5fQEdD98-ByHbBrCvlpGzyw&vpsrc=3D0&mra=3Datm&dirflg=3Dr&ttype=3Dnow&t= =3Dm&z=3D16&start=3D0=0A= =0A= HTH,=0A= =0A= - Antti=0A= =0A= From mellon@fugue.com Sat Nov 12 23:27:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA3C21F8AED for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:27:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.086 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.086 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.372, BAYES_05=-1.11, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7eX8WAyDG4dW for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:27:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF09021F8486 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:27:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.13.155] (unknown [122.147.240.7]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31D0F2380529 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 02:27:11 -0500 (EST) References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com> <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> <4EBE2046.4020208@opus1.com> <0AB19BA2-29A5-4233-A71A-2954406DD8F9@tzi.org> <25014_1321168419_4EBF6E23_25014_514_1_BD9CDD2E-C2BC-444F-B43C-8135C607977B@fugue.com> <64FACAB831EEEB418F27A18FE09095244E94FB9E@EXMDB08.org.aalto.fi> From: Ted Lemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) In-Reply-To: <64FACAB831EEEB418F27A18FE09095244E94FB9E@EXMDB08.org.aalto.fi> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:27:29 +0800 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:27:12 -0000 On Nov 13, 2011, at 3:22 PM, M=C3=A4kel=C3=A4 Antti w= rote: > You can just take bus 284 from Shangri La to TICC. Walk about 200m south t= o the next big street and find a bus stop. Costs $15 with Easycard (can buy o= ne at 7/11 opposite the bus stop, or any other convenience store). Nice! Thanks! How was the quality of the ride? :) (Not such a big de= al for a two-minute bus ride, of course) From Joel.Snyder@Opus1.COM Sat Nov 12 01:08:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5260121F8669 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:08:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.65 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.65 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hBe0flxKFpy8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from Viola.Opus1.COM (Viola.Opus1.COM [192.245.12.8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C2921F8610 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 01:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.20.3.136] ([203.69.99.17]) by Opus1.COM (PMDF V6.5-x6 #9830) with ESMTPSA id <01O8BE3PK19O9I7N9Y@Opus1.COM> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 02:08:26 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 17:09:15 +0800 From: Joel M Snyder In-reply-to: To: "Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)" Message-id: <1D0E17C5-8F91-47EC-9155-795EB0FFFEB0@opus1.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com> <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> <4EBE2046.4020208@opus1.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:30:15 -0800 Cc: Joel M Snyder , Ted Lemon , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 09:08:29 -0000 The TICC is across the street from the AT Boutique, which is across the stre= et from the Hyatt stop of the 2060 bus, so if you are willing to walk 250 me= ters or so and cross two streets, yes. I'm sorry if that sentence construct= ion is confusing, but that's the best way I can describe it. jms --- Joel M Snyder Opus One jms@Opus1.COM +1 (520) 324-0494 Sent from a mobile device; brevity is not meant to be brusque and typos are unintentional. On Nov 12, 2011, at 16:45, "Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan)" wrote: > Does the 2160 bus also stop near AT Boutique hotel ?=20 >=20 > Thanks > Mouli >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Joel M Snyder > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:59 PM > To: Ted Lemon > Cc: jarrett.lu@oracle.com; 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? >=20 > Actually, the bus changes; they have luxury liners running that route=20 > which is what I caught last night at 8:30 PM. I also saw another 2060=20= > bus swing by at the airport which was older and might fall into your=20 > categorization of "stinky old school bus;" it certainly looked it. But=20= > I guess the point is that they do have more than one kind and they're=20 > not all old and stinky. >=20 > jms >=20 >=20 > On 11/12/11 3:19 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: >> On Nov 1, 2011, at 2:17 AM, > "jarrett.lu@oracle.com" wrote: >>> As Jakob pointed out, Bus 2060, Taipei - Taoyuan East line, is the > one. According to the website, the last bus leaving TPE airport at 1 AM. > So you should be OK. The bus drops passengers off at the side door of > Grand Hyatt. It takes about 70 minutes from TPE to Hyatt. >>=20 >> Warning: this is a stinky old-school bus, not a luxury liner. I'm > sure it will get me there, but I am wishing I'd chosen a different > option, which is not something I usually say about public transport. >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 > --=20 > Joel M Snyder, 1404 East Lind Road, Tucson, AZ, 85719 > Senior Partner, Opus One Phone: +1 520 324 0494 > jms@Opus1.COM http://www.opus1.com/jms > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From cheshire@gmail.com Sat Nov 12 19:58:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A5C1F0C3F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:58:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, GB_I_LETTER=-2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F6fmEji5RjwG for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:58:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41FC21F84D4 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so5710332bkb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:58:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=16k6Sl52IKNXOXBfsrsk7FSO24jlSQ+e1B8f0P62bLE=; b=CMmTKGVKRYoYJZIt7dgMeeHCZSHB6zawM/9Iz/9f9/xXBEvK2ReSH7hzlKF1FqWIDi M/Il6CvOm1izdYVmzOgNP3zL50RWqQ1lpzC+CTrx6qgi9TkRm59w9Ndz9zywriVHX4QI 273tkMvFvHOIVdyqodjnX5BtfxhIDKShtf0S4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.50.88 with SMTP id y24mr13964607bkf.53.1321156688548; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:58:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: cheshire@gmail.com Received: by 10.205.135.15 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:58:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:58:08 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: rz4DybouXJyjgJnfxp50ZT-8RYw Message-ID: From: Stuart Cheshire To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=00032555767a1d14e404b195c362 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:30:14 -0800 Subject: [82attendees] IETF 82 Agenda formatted for single sheet X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:58:12 -0000 --00032555767a1d14e404b195c362 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm in the habit of formatting the=C2=A0agenda=C2=A0to fit on two US Letter pages, and then printing it out double-sided so I have a single sheet of paper with the whole week's timetable on it. 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Kucherawy" , "Livingood, Jason" , 82attendees@ietf.org, Tina TSOU Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taipei 101 Observation Deck Ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:47:26 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_1DA8D34F-6DF3-4BE0-85C7-8DC242541771 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 13, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Ole Jacobsen (ole) wrote: > Your Social Event ticket (if you got one) includes a *separate* ticket = to the Taipei 101 Observation Deck on the 88th and 89th floor of Taipei = 101. This is NOT where the actual social event will be, but it is a cool = place to see, especially the 660 ton tuned mass damper. Open every day = from 9am to 10pm. Geek Factor =3D 9.73 I think this is unambiguous but just to make sure it is: so you can = visit the deck independent of the social?=20 --Olaf ________________________________________________________=20 Olaf M. Kolkman NLnet Labs http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/ =20 --Apple-Mail=_1DA8D34F-6DF3-4BE0-85C7-8DC242541771 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOv3XsAAoJEFRqER47aqpkID8P/3WVEMbS/zFP00+hNaVN4D7X 6G6fBq96RDeOWnF6o0oE1StNttP3phqlcXJNKBjFM6iSAT1wdpTC9iNZJBJL/fRO 7Q6K0JCJdkWL/1baAT7peNLYBnzOVaxBQZbsBRVod1dQE+P5Dh/gfAgqVEJUj1vL rFTruPd+qFbRcVVQjiWtabP5r1rZkuq/YJ6z+wHnCNm368KP+1E7XIfAjBxQEcYf VbVIHew4rfdhcZK2J9GVWRp8gu8vdeZCONnCGwOi+8NbmHHxAPaWwTlxCSCWarWT ZVCMKwFr4YyBl3+AN0+HI7p6BFqAlCWhKYqu2z1xqY9w1WQNr5k8hQs/JqtceYAt Qg7SZ8RFlr0yzjUZu9k2vlQ6JpAj+j1J8RvOcMQhLMRyVxgxcChO9cqm/IEa3xb4 wF/253eYVNBS4tSv5nH3pKudpgbrlNG2V5jWiKGGb89WVGIijrFCVx9lcXCLLulO dTUQ0P8AITNupLIE0sCIMOqEZccMPKbfK1WNx/2ZuzPKnwhpw3sq1vRJlwCQ7Egf kS2toQ58Wdg92atdGtsUX+g7vUgfiSraArjNc7z4y58+aYkDpWfLi3G7vR12K4kq v9MZKQfQ7y1YMm7gCJ8f1fe6lBpIxk2SpjpEhkFLWRp+6fFu8tbAib7Rrcv4/cmA 2tevGvGxoEeJgtIjUB+5 =q5jB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_1DA8D34F-6DF3-4BE0-85C7-8DC242541771-- From johnl@iecc.com Sat Nov 12 23:53:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20D611E80A0 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:53:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.567 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.567 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sLTmdu75flz1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:53:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1146711E8093 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 64877 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2011 07:53:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=fd6b.4ebf7775.k1111; bh=dmimyFzkXtOIsoSogFItdielp7MAzw3xFgbpCiMImqg=; b=bTulUU3/v8MhFmLiuy1n84/+++I55QM8nzQI9t6rcXlplXf3Y1FRR7NipVYnY4F5yikisi4VMvwEKVW2XpWSv1OjJlhOWcW7rTIIdY4S+64apgAxKnS1qaSO8JPKkyDz3ZUhco3HzZVesTYyO9m/1XwBTQF6VfzfvHAF8l76rzs= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 13 Nov 2011 07:53:03 -0000 Date: 13 Nov 2011 15:53:22 +0800 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [82attendees] Where to buy an umbrella? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:53:26 -0000 This is probably a dumb question, but has anyone seen a place near the Hyatt or TICC to buy an umbrella? As far as I can tell, everyone in Taiwan is issued one at birth, so perhaps there is no need to offer them at retail. R's, John PS: I have a rain jacket, but it's kind of warm for this week's weather. 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X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:54:15 -0000 At 8:17 AM +0000 11/10/11, Tim Chown wrote: > There's a possibility I may need to cancel my Hyatt booking. > > I have just noted that at this stage the hotel now charges a full > fee in the event of a cancellation (a bit different to most US > hotels!). > > Has anyone been able to transfer a reservation? I will call the > hotel if I do need to cancel, but interested if anyone has already > been able to transfer their booking onto another IETFer. In general, transfers are no problem at all. I've done them a number of times. Usually it just takes a phone call or email from you to the hotel to confirm that someone else is taking over your reservation. (Hope you didn't have to cancel.)ie -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Progress is made on alternate Fridays. From rmohanr@cisco.com Sun Nov 13 00:01:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2C821F851F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:01:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.936 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.936 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.663, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LmdLGYbd0jRH for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-2.cisco.com (ams-iport-2.cisco.com [144.254.224.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B5321F8513 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:01:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=rmohanr@cisco.com; l=1128; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321171276; x=1322380876; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date: message-id:in-reply-to:references:from:to; bh=u7FcG9+R47gReIpLtz1nw4Ura1R/IAcghkhCQKNI0mU=; b=fA4Zvyzwpz39FqoVPJQRN5N1d0GdXpIJFb0H7jERPoj6Yge1k5HZa7hd h6uPAgNdabFkU+A67c5ZWieCouSBNVBJxjqLSok9baPmuQ0xKpf3csjKY 3jvMHz9w8IFWdxWDKdV2gHgbtjMSH+PQX25IjyHUGLFD9v+I4Herwyq/v o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMAAJ54v05Io8UT/2dsb2JhbABCmimQBoEFgXIBAQEEAQEBDwEdCjQXBAIBCBEEAQELBhcBBgEmHwkIAQEEAQoICBqHaJgLAZ0uiRxjBIgOkWSMPQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,502,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="59730996" Received: from bgl-core-4.cisco.com ([72.163.197.19]) by ams-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2011 08:01:14 +0000 Received: from xbh-bgl-412.cisco.com (xbh-bgl-412.cisco.com [72.163.129.202]) by bgl-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAD81Evv001240; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:01:14 GMT Received: from xmb-bgl-417.cisco.com ([72.163.129.213]) by xbh-bgl-412.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:31:14 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:31:12 +0530 Message-ID: <35BCE99A477D6A4986FB2216D8CF2CFD085488DA@XMB-BGL-417.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Where to buy an umbrella? Thread-Index: Acyh2VkUqZ+a6SJRSR61vwoaRxLBDQAABjUg References: From: "Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)" To: "John R. Levine" , <82attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Nov 2011 08:01:14.0050 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A042220:01CCA1DA] Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where to buy an umbrella? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:01:19 -0000 I happen to see a couple of shops in Linjiang St. Night Market that sell Umbrella's. You may have to bargain to get a good price though. The place is close by TICC and you can find the route here=20 http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=3D202242792288504239937.0004abd9856d6= e c81a436&msa=3D0&ll=3D25.035877,121.55797&spn=3D0.004977,0.009613 Ram > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John R. Levine > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:53 PM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Where to buy an umbrella? >=20 > This is probably a dumb question, but has anyone seen a place near the > Hyatt or TICC to buy an umbrella? As far as I can tell, everyone in > Taiwan is issued one at birth, so perhaps there is no need to offer > them > at retail. >=20 > R's, > John >=20 > PS: I have a rain jacket, but it's kind of warm for this week's > weather. > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From ynir@checkpoint.com Sun Nov 13 00:03:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D0A21F8ABC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:03:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.366 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.366 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.233, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rq92K70YVPYQ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from michael.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3B7D21F8AB9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:03:46 -0800 (PST) X-CheckPoint: {4EBF79B0-0-1B221DC2-1FFFF} Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.26]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAD83gx3031472; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:03:42 +0200 Received: from il-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com (194.29.34.71) by il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (194.29.34.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.255.0; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:03:42 +0200 Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) by il-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com ([194.29.34.71]) with mapi; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:03:42 +0200 From: Yoav Nir To: "John R. Levine" Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:03:39 +0200 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Where to buy an umbrella? Thread-Index: Acyh2sHa8shdfeBfSIKToaRWR7yZEw== Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: scan successful x-kse-antivirus-info: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KSE-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: protection disabled Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where to buy an umbrella? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:03:47 -0000 I saw a few stores selling them while walking west on Zhongxiao. On Nov 13, 2011, at 3:53 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > This is probably a dumb question, but has anyone seen a place near the=20 > Hyatt or TICC to buy an umbrella? As far as I can tell, everyone in=20 > Taiwan is issued one at birth, so perhaps there is no need to offer them= =20 > at retail. >=20 > R's, > John From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Sun Nov 13 00:05:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4490621F8ADC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:05:21 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.954 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.954 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.645, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JFIFvUfmeEoN for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7AF21F8AD8 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:05:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1321171520; x=1352707520; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:content-type:x-random-sig-tag; z=Message-Id:=20 |In-Reply-To:=20|References:=20|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS=20X|Date: =20Sat,=2012=20Nov=202011=2023:57:10=20-0800|To:=20"John =20R.=20Levine"=20,=0D=0A=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20"82attendees@ietf.org"=20<82attendees@ietf.org> |From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20 |Subject:=20Re:=20[82attendees]=20Where=20to=20buy=20an =20umbrella?|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"u s-ascii"=20=3B=20format=3D"flowed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201. 0b28; bh=iWmSqCWF6SB5UGK+vLf2WCHDr850xBE+iLS2KN9uzE4=; b=eRXZo6b58qAyFzWOvOASVSLMpoDP3ZIV0Ud9tnhPSDGzg3ADhOjCP4wS wg/Fxjs7LsfmaT5EXqxZJPDGX5clueokq3IyFuYSRXd5pyGUVglOMILn+ z0L7L7aVK1mlmiqq2sS4QJ4R8nNPBTF6ckTzs5VnOJpwVsC86uN0XUUXs Y=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6528"; a="137212569" Received: from ironmsg04-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.19]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2011 00:05:19 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,501,1315206000"; d="scan'208";a="112075990" Received: from warlock.qualcomm.com ([129.46.50.49]) by Ironmsg04-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 13 Nov 2011 00:05:20 -0800 Received: from [172.21.1.9] (myvpn-r-03258.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.10.48]) by warlock.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id pAD85Hfq012915; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 00:05:18 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 23:57:10 -0800 To: "John R. Levine" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where to buy an umbrella? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:05:21 -0000 At 3:53 PM +0800 11/13/11, John R. Levine wrote: > This is probably a dumb question, but has anyone seen a place near > the Hyatt or TICC to buy an umbrella? Your hotel probably has plenty for loaning out to guests. (But hotel loaners tend to be large, not the compact foldup ones.) -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Clothes make the man. 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Sun, 13 Nov 2011 03:53:01 -0800 Received: from EMBX01-WF.jnpr.net ([fe80::1914:3299:33d9:e43b]) by p-emfe02-wf.jnpr.net ([fe80::c126:c633:d2dc:8090%11]) with mapi; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:53:00 -0500 From: Thomas Walsh To: Olaf Kolkman , Ole Jacobsen Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:52:57 -0500 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Taipei 101 Observation Deck Ticket Thread-Index: Acyh2H+YrZpahx4lSaOxo/2yPtQBmAAIiPOw Message-ID: References: <45484CD1-92D4-4404-9587-76738269CBBA@huawei.com> <4A426D5F-9204-442A-80EF-24D167B4CF09@cisco.com> <85C6F655-FA5E-4054-8A76-C2F5D5D9E427@NLnetLabs.nl> In-Reply-To: <85C6F655-FA5E-4054-8A76-C2F5D5D9E427@NLnetLabs.nl> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Tina TSOU , "Livingood, Jason" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, "Murray S. Kucherawy" Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taipei 101 Observation Deck Ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 11:57:59 -0000 I was told the ticket for the observation deck is good anytime. But the li= nes for the observation desk seem quite long. -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Olaf Kolkman Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:47 PM To: Ole Jacobsen Cc: Murray S. Kucherawy; Livingood, Jason; 82attendees@ietf.org; Tina TSOU Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taipei 101 Observation Deck Ticket On Nov 13, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Ole Jacobsen (ole) wrote: > Your Social Event ticket (if you got one) includes a *separate* ticket to= the Taipei 101 Observation Deck on the 88th and 89th floor of Taipei 101. = This is NOT where the actual social event will be, but it is a cool place t= o see, especially the 660 ton tuned mass damper. Open every day from 9am to= 10pm. Geek Factor =3D 9.73 I think this is unambiguous but just to make sure it is: so you can visit t= he deck independent of the social?=20 --Olaf ________________________________________________________=20 Olaf M. Kolkman NLnet Labs http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/ =20 From agmalis@gmail.com Sun Nov 13 04:47:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19BE21F8C8F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:47:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fHwuxFT8rUgA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3101E21F8B25 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by qadb14 with SMTP id b14so754529qad.10 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:47:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=q6uf0EnoZT+Nj4IcaPfEg98tPHmK3N3mF6Xxiasgk+E=; b=CjTtLHTgEIQX1GxlS0jFnd5S4HkkVU67utU60DEKcZzWpS7lviuAAO4A0ZpXRToW5D JtXEw35zswng/8TvW9LhMiMY6ocCcKTl2yD5acuR0xYKJjvTeAb5hG3jftr2us9vlL6l 21fnyzfbW2AAtt/uvxKKl/B29qMcPc/GcdgKo= Received: by 10.229.191.2 with SMTP id dk2mr2830221qcb.32.1321187038200; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:23:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.251.12 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:23:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3615F3CCD55F054395A882F51C6E5FDA181FF77B@szxeml513-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <3615F3CCD55F054395A882F51C6E5FDA181FF77B@szxeml513-mbx.china.huawei.com> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:23:37 +0800 Message-ID: To: TianLinyi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] agenda andriod app does not work with andriod 3.2 X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:47:12 -0000 It works fine for me on a Droid 3 running Android 2.3.4. Cheers, Andy 2011/11/13 TianLinyi : > my device is huawei mediapad with andriod 3.2. the agenda app always quit= . > > cheers=EF=BC=8C > linyi > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From petithug@acm.org Sun Nov 13 06:01:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F6321F8B65 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:01:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.626 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.626 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.026, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jnXXI38igxrS for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from implementers.org (implementers.org [IPv6:2604:3400:dc1:41:216:3eff:fe5b:8240]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9277F21F8B61 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8:0:64:ca0a:a9ff:fe2e:a4f6] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:64:ca0a:a9ff:fe2e:a4f6]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "petithug", Issuer "implementers.org" (verified OK)) by implementers.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF48120138 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:01:09 -0500 From: Marc Petit-Huguenin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20111010 Icedove/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:01:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I went to Guanghua Market Digital Plaza today, kind of Fry's on 5 levels. Lot of interesting stuff, even if I did not find was I was searching (Hantek 5200a, just in case). I recommend to go after 11:00am. There was a nice fresh products market behind the building, and another street behind the market with more computer stuff. Taxi was 150/175 from the Hyatt. - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Personal email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Professional email: petithug@acm.org Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk6/zaMACgkQ9RoMZyVa61fiLQCfTPnCXHYdLkZzXdODgnGf1LJm KRQAn1QgabGaHmVSNxW03VwkdLd9p65B =DLQU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sergel@google.com Sun Nov 13 06:33:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98DF21F8B24 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:33:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.076 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.076 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_46=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZSISKZUMTHbw for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE9421F8B21 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by gye5 with SMTP id 5so5040785gye.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:33:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; bh=yIE4qO/h19NyN7vzMoJxCsxjUFqnZsGFJe0nJ9GOXSY=; b=tDYQa3QOSImi3DO/6fpcpq/V+rIJYIazrfEA5GvSyV6p3R+eMWXV36L/3iY8y97oHE oTS1FjE3X/X61Ljwq/YQ== Received: by 10.236.183.133 with SMTP id q5mr8478084yhm.38.1321194795575; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.183.133 with SMTP id q5mr8478038yhm.38.1321194795116; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:33:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.12.15 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:32:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> References: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> From: Serge Lachapelle Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:32:44 +0800 Message-ID: To: Marc Petit-Huguenin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305495fd71270a04b19ea29e X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:33:16 -0000 --20cf305495fd71270a04b19ea29e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Apparently, the camera street is on Hankou St. http://g.co/maps/ufc3a ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_in_Taipei /Serge On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 22:01, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I went to Guanghua Market Digital Plaza today, kind of Fry's on 5 levels. > Lot > of interesting stuff, even if I did not find was I was searching (Hantek > 5200a, > just in case). I recommend to go after 11:00am. There was a nice fresh > products market behind the building, and another street behind the market > with > more computer stuff. > > Taxi was 150/175 from the Hyatt. > > - -- > Marc Petit-Huguenin > Personal email: marc@petit-huguenin.org > Professional email: petithug@acm.org > Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk6/zaMACgkQ9RoMZyVa61fiLQCfTPnCXHYdLkZzXdODgnGf1LJm > KRQAn1QgabGaHmVSNxW03VwkdLd9p65B > =DLQU > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > -- Serge Lachapelle | Product Manager | sergel@google.com | +46 732 01 22 32 Google Sweden AB | Kungsbron 2, SE-111 22 Stockholm | Org. nr. 556656-6880 Apparently, this footer is required in Europe. Apologies. This email may be confidential or privileged. 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Taxi was 150/175 from the Hyatt.

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--20cf305495fd71270a04b19ea29e-- From ynir@checkpoint.com Sun Nov 13 06:47:08 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3868E21F847D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:47:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.072 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.072 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.074, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_46=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T1vuu1xgr7Wg for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:47:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from michael.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F9721F847F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 06:47:06 -0800 (PST) X-CheckPoint: {4EBFD835-1-1B221DC2-1FFFF} Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.26]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pADEl0OC029779; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:47:00 +0200 Received: from il-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com (194.29.34.71) by il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (194.29.34.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.255.0; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:47:00 +0200 Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) by il-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com ([194.29.34.71]) with mapi; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:47:00 +0200 From: Yoav Nir To: Serge Lachapelle Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:46:55 +0200 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza Thread-Index: AcyiExlZk+jwfUrMQXiu1Gwl1bPxbw== Message-ID: <6A0F1DDA-45A4-413B-8489-BCFA02D1CEE7@checkpoint.com> References: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: scan successful x-kse-antivirus-info: Clean Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_6A0F1DDA45A4413B8489BCFA02D1CEE7checkpointcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KSE-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: protection disabled Cc: Marc Petit-Huguenin , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:47:08 -0000 --_000_6A0F1DDA45A4413B8489BCFA02D1CEE7checkpointcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting. The prices at Guanghua were not great. I wonder if they would = be better at Hanoku. A Nikon S6200 cost NT$8000 ($264 US). The same camera costs $220 in the US = and I so it for 165 Euros ($224 US) at the airport in Paris, and you never = get the best price at airports. And no, the VAT doesn't account for the difference. I think a trip there would require a bus/subway ride. Can anyone share any = positive/negative experiences with the subway? On Nov 13, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Serge Lachapelle wrote: Apparently, the camera street is on Hankou St. http://g.co/maps/ufc3a ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_in_Taipei /Serge On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 22:01, Marc Petit-Huguenin > wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I went to Guanghua Market Digital Plaza today, kind of Fry's on 5 levels. = Lot of interesting stuff, even if I did not find was I was searching (Hantek 52= 00a, just in case). I recommend to go after 11:00am. There was a nice fresh products market behind the building, and another street behind the market w= ith more computer stuff. Taxi was 150/175 from the Hyatt. - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Personal email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Professional email: petithug@acm.org Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk6/zaMACgkQ9RoMZyVa61fiLQCfTPnCXHYdLkZzXdODgnGf1LJm KRQAn1QgabGaHmVSNxW03VwkdLd9p65B =3DDLQU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees -- Serge Lachapelle | Product Manager | sergel@google.com | +46 732 01 22 32 Google Sweden AB | Kungsbron 2, SE-111 22 Stockholm | Org. nr. 556656-6880 Apparently, this footer is required in Europe. Apologies. This email may be= confidential or privileged. If you received this communication by mistake= , please don't forward it to anyone else,please erase all copies and attach= ments, and please let me know that it went to the wrong person. Thanks. --_000_6A0F1DDA45A4413B8489BCFA02D1CEE7checkpointcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting. The prices at= Guanghua were not great. I wonder if they would be better at Hanoku. =

A Nikon S6200 cost NT$8000 ($264 US). The same camera c= osts $220 in the US and I so it for 165 Euros ($224 US) at the airport in P= aris, and you never get the best price at airports. 

And no, the VAT doesn't account for the difference.

<= /div>
I think a trip there would require a bus/subway ride. Can anyone = share any positive/negative experiences with the subway?


On Nov 13, 2011, at 10:32 PM, Serge Lachapelle wrote:<= /div>
Appa= rently, the camera street is on Hankou St. 


=

/Serge

On Sun, Nov 13= , 2011 at 22:01, Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug@acm.org> wrote:
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I went to Guanghua Market Digital Plaza today, kind of Fry's on 5 levels. &= nbsp;Lot
of interesting stuff, even if I did not find was I was searching (Hantek 52= 00a,
just in case).  I recommend to go after 11:00am.  There was a nic= e fresh
products market behind the building, and another street behind the market w= ith
more computer stuff.

Taxi was 150/175 from the Hyatt.

- --
Marc Petit-Huguenin
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Professional email: petithug@acm.org
Blog: ht= tp://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org
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= --_000_6A0F1DDA45A4413B8489BCFA02D1CEE7checkpointcom_-- From dromasca@avaya.com Sun Nov 13 07:37:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBDC21F8484 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:37:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.876 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.876 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.278, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ltP8sT+XZDT0 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:37:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com (p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB06D21F8481 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 07:37:09 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFAJ/jv07GmAcF/2dsb2JhbABCgk2nLYEFgXIBAQEBAxIKEQNJEAIBCA0BBw0GDAsBBgFFEQEBBAESCBqhbppOiRxjBJoIjCA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,503,1315195200"; d="scan'208,217";a="217645002" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2011 10:37:09 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.14]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2011 10:36:06 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CCA21A.1AB11804" Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:37:06 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6A0F1DDA-45A4-413B-8489-BCFA02D1CEE7@checkpoint.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza thread-index: AcyiExlZk+jwfUrMQXiu1Gwl1bPxbwABkxPg References: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> <6A0F1DDA-45A4-413B-8489-BCFA02D1CEE7@checkpoint.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Yoav Nir" , "Serge Lachapelle" Cc: Marc Petit-Huguenin , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:37:10 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA21A.1AB11804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We took the subway on Saturday morning from the City Hall station to the Longshan station. Good experience. The station is about ten minutes walk from the Hyatt. The ride was nice and the trains were not crowded, but it was a weekend day. The ticket machines sell magnetic coins which are scanned when you enter and retained at exit. They have a map with the name of the stations in English and the fare for each station from the place you are. Stations are announced and displayed in English in the train. Very good experience overall.=20 =20 Dan =20 =20 =20 From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Yoav Nir . Can anyone share any positive/negative experiences with the subway? =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA21A.1AB11804 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We took the subway on Saturday morning from the City Hall station to = the Longshan station. Good experience. The station is about ten minutes = walk from the Hyatt. The ride was nice and the trains were not crowded, = but it was a weekend day. The ticket machines sell magnetic coins which = are scanned when you enter and retained at exit. They have a map with = the name of the stations in English and the fare for each station from = the place you are.  Stations are announced and displayed in English = in the train. Very good experience overall.

 

Dan

 

 

 

From:= = 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Yoav Nir

. Can anyone share any positive/negative experiences = with the subway?

 

 

 

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Levine" , <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where to buy an umbrella? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:41:34 -0000 I bought a compact umbrella from a grocery store in the subway station, I think it cost 120 Taiwan dollars.=20 Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randall Gellens > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 9:57 AM > To: John R. Levine; 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where to buy an umbrella? >=20 > At 3:53 PM +0800 11/13/11, John R. Levine wrote: >=20 > > This is probably a dumb question, but has anyone seen a place near > > the Hyatt or TICC to buy an umbrella? >=20 > Your hotel probably has plenty for loaning out to guests. (But hotel > loaners tend to be large, not the compact foldup ones.) >=20 > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on > society. --Mark Twain > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From louk.chi@gmail.com Sun Nov 13 08:40:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5EB21F8B1A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:40:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.173 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.173 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id slwCG0zmd8LH for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f50.google.com (mail-pz0-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D3721F8AFE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by pzk5 with SMTP id 5so7298955pzk.9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:40:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=lFIctRXw21fUO8oq5v5h7VtIOp3XjIGcfR21Z3aEVf8=; b=qL2T5Sdc50x0bZZ1EwNGLjt6Itv2Dj+23fC+dpVk3o5HolqH0WnzSuFgJeAlmDWc8c wK8pa/5RdkCPZJHUHHJWEKuOQQ7Vwul1G1Nx5M4Mnbp02mansWhLOQ5wBECbz2y2RMVy +PrluI9YcnPkckbiZgBpnYRGYYNz6XHqo0hQo= Received: by 10.68.4.200 with SMTP id m8mr42309542pbm.50.1321202428873; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:40:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from louk610PC (twaren2-094.niu.edu.tw. [203.145.202.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id lk8sm49148041pbb.4.2011.11.13.08.40.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 08:40:27 -0800 (PST) From: "louk" To: "'Livingood, Jason'" , "'Murray S. Kucherawy'" , <82attendees@ietf.org> References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:40:22 +0800 Message-ID: <008e01cca222$f267abd0$d7370370$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008F_01CCA266.00952500" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJkShljnntmr1d2pN2A2fDevoEAQpR7sIKA Content-Language: zh-tw Subject: Re: [82attendees] There's another technical conference going on X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:40:29 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01CCA266.00952500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jason =20 Try something like 802.21 .. I am cooking a project with NCKU Department of Aeronautics and = Astronautics . We try to use 802.21 for data control connection. =20 NCKU AA host the UAV games from 2005 in Taiwan. =20 =20 =20 OH~ You come from COMCAST ~ TRY MobileIPv6 for UAV. =20 always _____ =20 Ting-Yun Chi (=AC=F6=A7=CA=B9B)=20 Project Conductor , Translation Technology div. of Taiwan IPv6 Program.=20 Room 611, Bldg. No. 3, National Taiwan University No. 1,Sec 4, Roosevelt Rd. , Taipei 10617 , Taiwan R.O.C. TEL: +886-2-33663366 ext 75104 Mobile: +886-933994032 FAX: +886-2-26823971 Email: louk@rd.ipv6.org.tw _____ =20 =20 =20 From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Livingood, Jason Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 9:37 AM To: Murray S. Kucherawy; 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] There's another technical conference going on =20 I can't miss this opportunity to pass along a site that Eric Burger = tipped me to. I'm now trying to figure out how to get my 8 year old interested enough in this as a project so I can have a better excuse to play around with it. ;-) =20 http://diydrones.com/ =20 Jason =20 On 11/13/11 8:48 AM, "Murray S. Kucherawy" wrote: =20 In line at breakfast today I started up a conversation with another English-speaker who started asking me what time the conference starts, = etc. I asked him what he=A1=A6s here working on, and he said =A1=A7UAVs: = unmanned drones=A1=A8. I asked what area that=A1=A6s in, and at that point we = both realized we=A1=A6re here for different conferences. =20 Being jet lagged, I still wonder: Would unmanned drones be in RAI or = APPS? =20 _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees=20 ------=_NextPart_000_008F_01CCA266.00952500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear = Jason

 

Try  something like 802.21 = ..

I am cooking a project with = NCKU Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics = .

We try to use 802.21 for data = control connection.

 

NCKU AA host the UAV games from = 2005 in Taiwan.

 

 

 

OH~ You come from COMCAST ~ TRY = MobileIPv6 for UAV.

=

 

always

Ting-Yun = Chi (=AC=F6=A7=CA=B9B)

Project Conductor , Translation = Technology div. of Taiwan IPv6 Program.

Room 611, Bldg. No. 3, National = Taiwan University

No. 1,Sec 4, = Roosevelt Rd. , Taipei 10617 , Taiwan R.O.C.

TEL: +886-2-33663366 ext = 75104   Mobile: +886-933994032

FAX: = +886-2-26823971

Email: = louk@rd.ipv6.org.tw

 

 

From:= = 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Livingood, Jason
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 = 9:37 AM
To: Murray S. Kucherawy; = 82attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [82attendees] There's = another technical conference going = on

 

I can't miss = this opportunity to pass along a site that Eric Burger tipped me to. I'm = now trying to figure out how to get my 8 year old interested enough in = this as a project so I can have a better excuse to play around with it. = ;-)

 

 

Jason

 

On 11/13/11 = 8:48 AM, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <msk@cloudmark.com> = wrote:

 

In line at = breakfast today I started up a conversation with another English-speaker = who started asking me what time the conference starts, etc.  I = asked him what he=A1=A6s here working on, and he said =A1=A7UAVs: = unmanned drones=A1=A8.  I asked what area that=A1=A6s in, and at = that point we both realized we=A1=A6re here for different = conferences.

 

Being jet = lagged, I still wonder:  Would unmanned drones be in RAI or = APPS?

 

__________________________________= _____________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ie= tf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees =

------=_NextPart_000_008F_01CCA266.00952500-- From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Sun Nov 13 09:31:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FE421F869E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:31:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.508 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.508 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.272, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f0kuHZR9a5Jx for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:31:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C2221F8672 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:31:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pADHVU7e039653 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:31:30 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?big5?B?pP2n1Kao?= To: <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> In-Reply-To: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:30:03 +0800 Message-ID: <00e101cca229$e1060a10$a3121e30$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcyiDMEb7s462UZ1ROuKZZ+jR6V9KwAGijXg Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pADHVU7e039653 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:31:31 -0000 For those who want to go to Guanhua Market Area, the MRT is more convenient and cheap. Get off at the ZhongShao-XinSheng station, which is just 3 stops from the Taipei City Hall, and walk out from the Exit 1. The Guahua Market Area is nearby. Although the Guanghua Market Digital Plaza is the landmark building, most stores are separated in a border area. For the electronic materials and equipment such as the Hantek 5200a (BTW, it costs around NT$10k in Taiwan), the stores near the intersection of the XinSheng S. Rd., and the BaDe Rd., might have more opportunities to sell it. Reen-Cheng Wang -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marc Petit-Huguenin Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:01 PM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I went to Guanghua Market Digital Plaza today, kind of Fry's on 5 levels. Lot of interesting stuff, even if I did not find was I was searching (Hantek 5200a, just in case). I recommend to go after 11:00am. There was a nice fresh products market behind the building, and another street behind the market with more computer stuff. Taxi was 150/175 from the Hyatt. - -- Marc Petit-Huguenin Personal email: marc@petit-huguenin.org Professional email: petithug@acm.org Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk6/zaMACgkQ9RoMZyVa61fiLQCfTPnCXHYdLkZzXdODgnGf1LJm KRQAn1QgabGaHmVSNxW03VwkdLd9p65B =DLQU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Sun Nov 13 09:51:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 288F121F845D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:51:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.789 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.789 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.048, BAYES_50=0.001, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iqmU0HgG5LdY for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5795021F861E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 09:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pADHpsEH042520 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:51:54 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?gb2312?B?zfXIzLPJ?= To: <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:51:34 +0800 Message-ID: <00e501cca22c$e227ed70$a677c850$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E6_01CCA26F.F04B2D70" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcyiLOG8Y4ocvAEmTfav1UgVwDP0zQ== Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pADHpsEH042520 Subject: [82attendees] Night Market nearby X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:51:52 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E6_01CCA26F.F04B2D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those who want to take a look at night market, taste snack foods, = and do not want to take a long trip to the crowded Shilin Night Market, just walking toward south along the Keelung Rd. for 10-15 mins. After = crossing the KungFu S. Rd., you will see the entrance of the Linjiang Street = Night Market is at your right hand side. Enjoy it. PS. Don=A1=AFt eat too much before going to the night market or you will = regret that you have to give up many delicious snacks. Bon app=A8=A6tit! =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00E6_01CCA26F.F04B2D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For those = who want to take a look at night market, taste snack foods, and do not = want to take a long trip to the crowded Shilin Night Market, just = walking toward south along the Keelung Rd. for 10-15 mins. After = crossing the KungFu S. Rd., you will see the entrance of the Linjiang = Street Night Market is at your right hand side. Enjoy = it.

PS. = Don=A1=AFt eat too much before going to the night market or you will = regret that you have to give up many delicious snacks. Bon = app=A8=A6tit!

 

------=_NextPart_000_00E6_01CCA26F.F04B2D70-- From sergel@google.com Sun Nov 13 15:10:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8337221F8B34 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:10:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.076 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.076 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_46=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eVZsAjZ+daAQ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AB521F8B12 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:09:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by gye5 with SMTP id 5so5280092gye.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:09:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; bh=SpJYsQD0PmMQym1no/j+lkzkkhari80km9RfYF435cY=; b=sJbPuJ12/IwSJeVwprMXbExq4tZ9+jSIKUCsqzBw01XzHfrriKV+rhLlS1PpP90h2D uzypaDyfWXh9Uf32kMAQ== Received: by 10.236.170.201 with SMTP id p49mr10526652yhl.106.1321225789334; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:09:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.170.201 with SMTP id p49mr10526637yhl.106.1321225789109; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:09:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.12.15 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:09:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <00e101cca229$e1060a10$a3121e30$@edu.tw> References: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> <00e101cca229$e1060a10$a3121e30$@edu.tw> From: Serge Lachapelle Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:09:18 +0800 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf305640c9d3f40804b1a5d9ed X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:10:27 -0000 --20cf305640c9d3f40804b1a5d9ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Using google translate, I was able to find this online internet site to look at prices in taiwan. First impression is that the prices are the same or a little higher than amazon.com for camera lenses. http://ecshweb.pchome.com.tw/ /Serge On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 01:30, =E7=8E=8B=E5=BF=8D=E6=88=90 wrote: > For those who want to go to Guanhua Market Area, the MRT is more convenie= nt > and cheap. Get off at the ZhongShao-XinSheng station, which is just 3 sto= ps > from the Taipei City Hall, and walk out from the Exit 1. The Guahua Marke= t > Area is nearby. Although the Guanghua Market Digital Plaza is the landmar= k > building, most stores are separated in a border area. For the electronic > materials and equipment such as the Hantek 5200a (BTW, it costs around > NT$10k in Taiwan), the stores near the intersection of the XinSheng S. Rd= ., > and the BaDe Rd., might have more opportunities to sell it. > > Reen-Cheng Wang > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On > Behalf Of Marc Petit-Huguenin > Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:01 PM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I went to Guanghua Market Digital Plaza today, kind of Fry's on 5 levels. > Lot of interesting stuff, even if I did not find was I was searching > (Hantek > 5200a, just in case). I recommend to go after 11:00am. There was a nice > fresh products market behind the building, and another street behind the > market with more computer stuff. > > Taxi was 150/175 from the Hyatt. > > - -- > Marc Petit-Huguenin > Personal email: marc@petit-huguenin.org > Professional email: petithug@acm.org > Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk6/zaMACgkQ9RoMZyVa61fiLQCfTPnCXHYdLkZzXdODgnGf1LJm > KRQAn1QgabGaHmVSNxW03VwkdLd9p65B > =3DDLQU > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > --=20 Serge Lachapelle | Product Manager | sergel@google.com | +46 732 01 22 32 Google Sweden AB | Kungsbron 2, SE-111 22 Stockholm | Org. nr. 556656-6880 Apparently, this footer is required in Europe. Apologies. This email may be confidential or privileged. If you received this communication by mistake, please don't forward it to anyone else,please erase all copies and attachments, and please let me know that it went to the wrong person. Thanks. --20cf305640c9d3f40804b1a5d9ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Using google translate, I was able to find this online internet site to loo= k at prices in taiwan. First impression is that the prices are the same or = a little higher than amazon.com for camer= a lenses.


/Serge


On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 01:30, =E7=8E=8B=E5=BF=8D=E6=88= =90 <rcwang@nttu= .edu.tw> wrote:
For those who want to go to Guanhua Market = Area, the MRT is more convenient
and cheap. Get off at the ZhongShao-XinSheng station, which is just 3 stops=
from the Taipei City Hall, and walk out from the Exit 1. The Guahua Market<= br> Area is nearby. Although the Guanghua Market Digital Plaza is the landmark<= br> building, most stores are separated in a border area. For the electronic materials and equipment such as the Hantek 5200a (BTW, it costs around
NT$10k in Taiwan), the stores near the intersection of the XinSheng S. Rd.,=
and the BaDe Rd., might have more opportunities to sell it.

Reen-Cheng Wang
-----Original Message-----
From: 82attendees-bounces@i= etf.org [mailto:82atten= dees-bounces@ietf.org] On
Behalf Of Marc Petit-Huguenin
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:01 PM
To: 82attendees@ietf.org
Subject: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

I went to Guanghua Market Digital Plaza today, kind of Fry's on 5 level= s.
Lot of interesting stuff, even if I did not find was I was searching (Hante= k
5200a, just in case). =C2=A0I recommend to go after 11:00am. =C2=A0There wa= s a nice
fresh products market behind the building, and another street behind the market with more computer stuff.

Taxi was 150/175 from the Hyatt.

- --
Marc Petit-Huguenin
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Professional email: petithug@acm.org
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--20cf305640c9d3f40804b1a5d9ed-- From ole@cisco.com Sun Nov 13 15:31:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1528C21F8457 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:31:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.429 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.429 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.170, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id T944vTuTN1qW for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:31:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-1.cisco.com (mtv-iport-1.cisco.com [173.36.130.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85D421F8450 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:31:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=674; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321227109; x=1322436709; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=ny1ZG8XbKafcSYdObUPwqoixnAcFkjD+gxXvKvFOB4k=; b=YS9XTXeFIG2Hjv7jcEWOpn3l0QCGLX671risrT3EbkdE5JxCxXcF7X9U 8ce/ij8JtCsVGb2UgYQgXLQ8kaxJzyzToZqqrky0UYY7RQcQ7/dcebHNH gAvw179cTem/MyOF/mSuhPsvwaMo//0LBT/IUuqk/Op1wdnMUYAoPbwkt c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAFlSwE6rRDoG/2dsb2JhbAA/A6l7gQWBcgEBAQQSAQIBJD8QC0ZXBhMioGsBgy4PAZl5hmWDGgSIEJZqh04 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,503,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="12307663" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2011 23:31:49 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com (sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com [10.21.84.201]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pADNVnh1015506; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:31:49 GMT Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:31:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Serge Lachapelle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> <00e101cca229$e1060a10$a3121e30$@edu.tw> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: =?ISO-2022-JP?Q?=1B$B2&G&=40=2E=1B=28J?= , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:31:50 -0000 I think you will probably find the "stuff they don't sell at home" the most interesting. Last time I was in Taipei the first 32G USB drives were just becoming available and were "hot items" in the stores around the Digital Plaza. Have a look around, especially the smaller stores and you could certainly find both bargains and special deals on models that might not even be sold elsewhere. The same can of course be said about Akihabara in Tokyo. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo From sm@elandsys.com Sun Nov 13 15:39:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69A021F8B01 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:39:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jxmZDozT3SGM for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.elandsys.com (mail.elandsys.com [208.69.177.125]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD5621F8AF8 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sm-THINK.elandsys.com (dhcp-4349.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.67.73]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.elandsys.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pADNd1rX006320 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:39:04 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=elandsys.com; s=mail; t=1321227545; bh=8C3vkfa//8bSW8f1ej84/a51QkA=; h=Message-Id:Date:To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ekBZvLwzhnPiazCydSqo5iPsLRc2ztfGGnZQc04yQkRZzfi94yqm9PYf/0JRPB606 LSE8e3qQIjXJNjXCBFaKoeEXrOG54D50A3CZ8uwToZeUg/KKUZ9XjLps+SbM+X/j20 aHSYiS9tgTxjFm8aAqY7WYjW9gqKAjryoZeBNlys= Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20111113143849.05801458@elandnews.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:42:50 -0800 To: 82attendees@ietf.org From: S Moonesamy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [82attendees] First-time attendees to the IETF X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:39:10 -0000 Hi, A few first-time attendees to the IETF are going out to dinner tonight. If any first-time attendees wish to join us, please email me off-list. Regards, S. Moonesamy From mellon@fugue.com Sun Nov 13 16:57:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CE521F86FF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:57:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.918, BAD_CREDIT=0.001, BAYES_50=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FRm3yEM-Z-hC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED63921F86EE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:57:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::80:c0ff:680b:a628:7e71] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:80:c0ff:680b:a628:7e71]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2F5762380529; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:57:54 -0500 (EST) References: <4EADAACB.6070101@gmail.com> <62907484-BB1A-4275-B053-9A9F6998483A@oracle.com> <4EAEE628.3010904@oracle.com> <4EBE2046.4020208@opus1.com> <0AB19BA2-29A5-4233-A71A-2954406DD8F9@tzi.org> <25014_1321168419_4EBF6E23_25014_514_1_BD9CDD2E-C2BC-444F-B43C-8135C607977B@fugue.com> <64FACAB831EEEB418F27A18FE09095244E94FB9E@EXMDB08.org.aalto.fi> In-Reply-To: <64FACAB831EEEB418F27A18FE09095244E94FB9E@EXMDB08.org.aalto.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <53F38DB2-2823-4EF4-A867-88D74909FB92@fugue.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:58:15 +0800 To: =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=A4kel=C3=A4_Antti?= Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Real bus and taxi info? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:57:57 -0000 On Nov 13, 2011, at 3:22 PM, M=C3=A4kel=C3=A4 Antti w= rote: > You can just take bus 284 from Shangri La to TICC. Walk about 200m south t= o the next big street and find a bus stop. Costs $15 with Easycard (can buy o= ne at 7/11 opposite the bus stop, or any other convenience store). I tried this, and it worked=E2=80=93thanks for the suggestion. Two details= that might help others at the convenience store. The card costs NTD100. Th= is gets you just the card, no credit. Then you add more credit. The card they sell at 7-11 is branded to 7-11, so I don't know if this descr= iption will help, but it's a plastic card in a cellophane packet with a tran= sit map on it that's probably really useful if you read Chinese. The packe= t says iCash on it, not Easycard. Once you get the card out, it does say Eas= ycard on it, but this was not so helpful. Also, make sure you get an Adult card... The bus was very nice, and did not smell of diesel fumes... :). I found it= much more pleasant than a cab, but of course YMMV.= From geoff.ietf@mulligan.com Sun Nov 13 17:36:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330C721F8888 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:36:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.67 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.67 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.930, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vyqPhvfVq2XF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:36:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from server2.coslabs.com (server2.coslabs.com [64.111.18.234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C80521F86A0 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.coslabs.com (mail.coslabs.com [199.233.92.34]) by server2.coslabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0CC1182E6 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:36:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [130.129.19.206] (dhcp-13ce.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.19.206]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.coslabs.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3B9D1FFFA for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:35:59 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4EC07083.1030000@mulligan.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:36:03 -0700 From: Geoff Mulligan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> In-Reply-To: <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:36:11 -0000 There are a bunch of links that claim the Grand Hyatt is haunted. Let us know if you see a ghost in your room, other than the ghost of working IPv6. geoff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reportedly_haunted_locations_in_the_world http://luxpresso.com/photogallery-indulge/worlds-top-10-haunted-hotels/8765/11 http://www.chinastudygroup.org/travel-sites-on-the-worlds-top-10-haunted-taipei-grand-hyatt-hotel-list.html From wwwrun@ietfa.amsl.com Sun Nov 13 17:44:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietf.org Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 30) id 9AE0B11E8073; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:44:25 -0800 (PST) From: NomCom Chair To: IETF Announcement list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20111114014425.9AE0B11E8073@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:44:25 -0800 (PST) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:48:34 -0800 Cc: ietf@ietf.org, 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] Nomcom office hours at IETF82 Taipei X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:44:25 -0000 The Nomcom will be holding office hours during the IETF meeting in Taipei. Location: Nomcom office 203A Tuesday November 15 2011: 13:00-15:00 Wednesday November 16 2011: 16:30-19:30 Thursday November 17 2011: 15:00-18:00 The Nomcom is in the process of reviewing the nominees for the various open positions as summarized on the Nomcom site: https://www.ietf.org/group/nomcom/2011/ We are actively seeking feedback on the nominees from the community. We would love to talk to you and collect your input. Please drop by the Nomcom office during the office hours or write to nomcom11@ietf.org to setup an appointment with us. Suresh Krishnan Chair, NomCom 2011-2012 nomcom-chair@ietf.org suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com From evyncke@cisco.com Sun Nov 13 17:55:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00FF11E8100 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:55:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2SrYzOitfsYo for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-3.cisco.com (ams-iport-3.cisco.com [144.254.224.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E9911E8082 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:55:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=evyncke@cisco.com; l=2224; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321235719; x=1322445319; h=mime-version:subject:date:message-id:from:to; bh=usf6F2coku7L7A48UH0HlIQt2ECzp33qQHDf1Zhe3IU=; b=K7YmhtOZkQKwlXMwAyFyS766fpcpREuCLG7VHh/yagjrT+dhVEOSPRiJ WWewlsnpCucVoAWpmPlkUEmCE3tSFj+w/zgZOd6rq5Lhv+O05l8Ex4+oK dFkfAtDAJZKdVMJ/2/k33f8QY9AMAlQj6pICmM/7uRPQV6IAN0jgGJwyF Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiUFABp0wE6Q/khM/2dsb2JhbABBgk2fUYddgQWBdAEEEgEGAxEDWwEMHgYNCwdXAQQbGqBFgSYBnTWGaoIyYwSZcow2 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,504,1315180800"; d="scan'208,217";a="2974595" Received: from ams-core-3.cisco.com ([144.254.72.76]) by ams-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2011 01:55:16 +0000 Received: from xbh-ams-101.cisco.com (xbh-ams-101.cisco.com [144.254.74.71]) by ams-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAE1tFke021724 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:55:15 GMT Received: from xmb-ams-110.cisco.com ([144.254.74.85]) by xbh-ams-101.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:55:15 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CCA270.743A4FFA" Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:55:12 +0100 Message-ID: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C539FA@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: No IPv6 on Eduroam WLAN? Thread-Index: AcyicHKISWxS/tyJSJKTLdSQosCojg== From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" To: <82attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2011 01:55:15.0900 (UTC) FILETIME=[745A17C0:01CCA270] Subject: [82attendees] No IPv6 on Eduroam WLAN? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:55:20 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA270.743A4FFA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The subject says it all=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA270.743A4FFA Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA270.743A4FFA-- From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Sun Nov 13 18:09:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4814C11E8128 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:09:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.713 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.713 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.832, BAYES_20=-0.74, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rFb4jqw0I5Hz for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D04F11E812C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pAE294CR018042 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:09:04 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?gb2312?B?zfXIzLPJ?= To: <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <00e501cca22c$e227ed70$a677c850$@edu.tw> <96FFD33E-A665-42E6-9162-BE069C134BF0@cs.ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: <96FFD33E-A665-42E6-9162-BE069C134BF0@cs.ucla.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:08:00 +0800 Message-ID: <004e01cca272$3c6a1b60$b53e5220$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcyiSkLdxbL8GkEqTtKswqkOzLR17AAJzceA Content-language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pAE294CR018042 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Night Market nearby X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:09:11 -0000 The night market starts around 17:00-18:00 and opens until midnight = (24:00 or later depend on the venders).=20 -----Original Message----- From: Lixia Zhang [mailto:lixia@cs.ucla.edu]=20 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 5:22 AM To: =CD=F5=C8=CC=B3=C9 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Night Market nearby wonder how late the night market opens? On Nov 13, 2011, at 9:51 AM, =CD=F5=C8=CC=B3=C9 wrote: > For those who want to take a look at night market, taste snack foods, = and do not want to take a long trip to the crowded Shilin Night Market, just walking toward south along the Keelung Rd. for 10-15 mins. After = crossing the KungFu S. Rd., you will see the entrance of the Linjiang Street = Night Market is at your right hand side. Enjoy it. > PS. Don=A1=AFt eat too much before going to the night market or you = will regret that you have to give up many delicious snacks. Bon app=A8=A6tit! > =20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From toshio@aniani.com Sun Nov 13 18:11:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 418B621F849B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:11:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.907 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.907 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, HELO_MISMATCH_ORG=0.611, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL=0.877, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QZniiBcZ78QX for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:11:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sh.aniani.org (207.8.111.219.st.bbexcite.jp [219.111.8.207]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756CD21F8434 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sh.aniani.org (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAE2ASH6082062 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:10:28 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from toshio@aniani.com) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:10:28 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20111114.111028.104045197.toshio@aniani.com> To: 82attendees@ietf.org From: TACHIBANA toshio X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 23.2 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [82attendees] ip address geolocation problem? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:11:11 -0000 My iPhone3/GS still airplain mode. Time adjust was done after only Wi-Fi tuned on. I can see weather information for Quebec on my iPhone. Could someone solve it ? -- Toshio Tachibana From morrowc@google.com Sun Nov 13 18:25:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997B511E8140 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:25:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aXoeDuYXLupV for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0417911E8138 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by yenq4 with SMTP id q4so2814322yen.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:25:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; bh=M/aJjt66bBgwu23vBET3slz+h0T7hIMqSRysT563mcg=; b=kZOeQWNGkbmFC48eKl34J+S+EAB22uZZjgDCjK1eSGCNI3G0vT+YJYJMyLUxPj7i0K 1ndmz6LIlLFq8KT8CD/A== Received: by 10.236.73.166 with SMTP id v26mr11432985yhd.100.1321237505402; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:25:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.73.166 with SMTP id v26mr11432974yhd.100.1321237505301; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.61.21 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:25:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111114.111028.104045197.toshio@aniani.com> References: <20111114.111028.104045197.toshio@aniani.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:25:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Chris Morrow To: TACHIBANA toshio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ip address geolocation problem? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:25:06 -0000 On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:10 PM, TACHIBANA toshio wrote: > My iPhone3/GS still airplain mode. > Time adjust was done after only Wi-Fi tuned on. > > I can see weather information for Quebec on my iPhone. > > Could someone solve it ? this is a generic problem with geo-loc based on ip-addresses, especially for moving conference networks :( From arifumi@nttv6.net Sun Nov 13 18:31:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E70011E8148 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:31:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.812 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.812 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.212, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4+JLfmBhrF8p for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from leo.nttv6.net (leo.nttv6.net [192.47.162.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B24111E8146 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.nttv6.net [127.0.0.1]) by leo.nttv6.net (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAE2TdPg046724; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:29:40 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from arifumi@nttv6.net) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Arifumi Matsumoto In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:31:19 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1699BCC8-F61B-4D80-84EB-274A1F97FF53@nttv6.net> References: <20111114.111028.104045197.toshio@aniani.com> To: Chris Morrow X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: TACHIBANA toshio , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ip address geolocation problem? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:31:26 -0000 Then, why not change MAC addresses of the APs for each IETF meeting ? :) On 2011/11/14, at 11:25, Chris Morrow wrote: > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:10 PM, TACHIBANA toshio = wrote: >> My iPhone3/GS still airplain mode. >> Time adjust was done after only Wi-Fi tuned on. >>=20 >> I can see weather information for Quebec on my iPhone. >>=20 >> Could someone solve it ? >=20 > this is a generic problem with geo-loc based on ip-addresses, > especially for moving conference networks :( > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From lukekb@gmail.com Sun Nov 13 18:31:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B915211E814E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:31:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9FHjACBdPozu for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0ED11E8146 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:31:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by gye5 with SMTP id 5so5384593gye.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:31:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=cE/NfiMFOlXBdkF0yA6majQ+Lx09Ry8CHYvqc6jTbFw=; b=tUQ0Hd7HOU8Agl/jE0j8eAQUaYyXALsXZPmDxy5En29ROHyjZoJnko2UttkBtkwVcr l45z53UtSPfMC1/hrqWTeDbiI6rrMOYJlYGtloTZJGSsQN9qEk1GwV4EkVbnA8KHRQ7D m+492W7KcY9ZgZd9U+PyFaqyaWIp4Y5nmT6Y0= Received: by 10.236.170.72 with SMTP id o48mr11438826yhl.43.1321237898670; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2001:df8::96:14bb:361d:a812:566? ([2001:df8:0:96:14bb:361d:a812:566]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q5sm12991803yhm.7.2011.11.13.18.31.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:31:36 -0800 (PST) From: Luke Berndt Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_D33625E4-927C-428D-89E5-D0BA17BBF17F" Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:31:33 -0500 Message-Id: To: 82attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [82attendees] Tips on places to shop and things to eat X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:31:40 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_D33625E4-927C-428D-89E5-D0BA17BBF17F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I found a couple of blogs on interesting shopping and eating = destinations. Design Sponge has a Taipei guide: http://www.designsponge.com/2011/07/taipei-city-guide.html And accompanying Google Map: = http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=3D205175031171809774847.0004a4e3ac51b4= 00dfbb9&msa=3D0&ll=3D25.033039,121.55797&spn=3D0.021853,0.035834 There is also a local food blog that seems to be pretty comprehensive: = http://hungryintaipei.blogspot.com/search/label/hungry%20girl%20in%20taipe= i%20strongly%20recommends And a bonus list of top food things to try: http://lisaandtony.com/taipei-restaurant-guide-in-english/ And if you into aquariums there is an entire street here: = http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/lounge-introductions/106409-aquarium-sto= res-taipei-taiwan.html http://g.co/maps/nsksx - Luke --Apple-Mail=_D33625E4-927C-428D-89E5-D0BA17BBF17F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii http:/= /www.designsponge.com/2011/07/taipei-city-guide.html
And = accompanying Google Map:

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And a bonus list of top food things to try:

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= --Apple-Mail=_D33625E4-927C-428D-89E5-D0BA17BBF17F-- From alexander.mayrhofer@nic.at Sun Nov 13 18:32:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3847211E8153 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:32:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.353 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.353 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.637, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_AT=0.424, HOST_EQ_AT=0.745, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HuurHbnuuYYC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sbg.nic.at (mail.sbg.nic.at [83.136.33.227]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A32D11E8096 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from nics-exch.sbg.nic.at ([10.17.175.3]) by mail.sbg.nic.at over TLS secured channel (TLSv1/SSLv3:AES128-SHA:128) with XWall v3.47 ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:32:17 +0100 Received: from nics-mail.sbg.nic.at (10.17.175.2) by NICS-EXCH.sbg.nic.at (10.17.175.3) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.339.1; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:32:12 +0100 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:32:10 +0100 Message-ID: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650B0E3254@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at> In-Reply-To: <004e01cca272$3c6a1b60$b53e5220$@edu.tw> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Night Market nearby Thread-Index: AcyiSkLdxbL8GkEqTtKswqkOzLR17AAJzceAAAD2fcA= References: <00e501cca22c$e227ed70$a677c850$@edu.tw><96FFD33E-A665-42E6-9162-BE069C134BF0@cs.ucla.edu> <004e01cca272$3c6a1b60$b53e5220$@edu.tw> From: Alexander Mayrhofer To: =?gb2312?B?zfXIzLPJ?= , <82attendees@ietf.org> X-XWALL-BCKS: auto Subject: Re: [82attendees] Night Market nearby X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:32:20 -0000 > do not want to take a long trip to the crowded Shilin Night Market, = just > walking toward south along the Keelung Rd. for 10-15 mins. After = crossing > the KungFu S. Rd., you will see the entrance of the Linjiang Street = Night > Market is at your right hand side. Enjoy it. > > PS. Don=A1=AFt eat too much before going to the night market or you = will > regret that you have to give up many delicious snacks. Bon = app=A8=A6tit! I was there last night with Peter, and i can agree that it's a nice = night market, probably on the smaller end. Don't let yourself put off by = the smell at the very beginning of the market, it get's better further = down ;). Also, i couldn't identify some of the snacks there, which = didn't stop me from trying some of them - recommended! Alex From jakob.heitz@ericsson.com Sun Nov 13 18:38:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A2E11E8160 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:38:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.96 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.96 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.039, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_75=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6-G0O2H62Y9w for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from imr3.ericy.com (imr3.ericy.com [198.24.6.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E1411E815C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) by imr3.ericy.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAE2bma1009673 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Sun, 13 Nov 2011 20:37:49 -0600 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.111]) by eusaamw0712.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.181]) with mapi; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:37:47 -0500 From: Jakob Heitz To: Arifumi Matsumoto Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:38:29 -0500 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] ip address geolocation problem? Thread-Index: AcyidmUp2tuvSY3FQ4KyjqtEqz1h0g== Message-ID: References: <20111114.111028.104045197.toshio@aniani.com> <1699BCC8-F61B-4D80-84EB-274A1F97FF53@nttv6.net> In-Reply-To: <1699BCC8-F61B-4D80-84EB-274A1F97FF53@nttv6.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Chris Morrow , TACHIBANA toshio , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] ip address geolocation problem? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:38:00 -0000 Why don't you take it out of airplane mode? You can turn off data roaming i= n general.network so you incur no fees. If it still does not find your location, go to general.reset and reset loca= tion warnings. Then it will ask you to use your location again. -- Jakob Heitz. On Nov 13, 2011, at 6:31 PM, "Arifumi Matsumoto" wrote: > Then, why not change MAC addresses of the APs for each IETF meeting ? :) >=20 > On 2011/11/14, at 11:25, Chris Morrow wrote: >=20 >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:10 PM, TACHIBANA toshio wr= ote: >>> My iPhone3/GS still airplain mode. >>> Time adjust was done after only Wi-Fi tuned on. >>>=20 >>> I can see weather information for Quebec on my iPhone. >>>=20 >>> Could someone solve it ? >>=20 >> this is a generic problem with geo-loc based on ip-addresses, >> especially for moving conference networks :( >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From randy@psg.com Sun Nov 13 18:39:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDB011E818A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:39:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.589 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.589 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.010, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4j1rJpRFUcAl for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89A011E8189 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:39:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RPmSP-00003R-2F; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:39:37 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:39:35 +0800 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Arifumi Matsumoto In-Reply-To: <1699BCC8-F61B-4D80-84EB-274A1F97FF53@nttv6.net> References: <20111114.111028.104045197.toshio@aniani.com> <1699BCC8-F61B-4D80-84EB-274A1F97FF53@nttv6.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: Chris Morrow , TACHIBANA toshio , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] ip address geolocation problem? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:39:40 -0000 > Then, why not change MAC addresses of the APs for each IETF meeting ? :) geoloc is using IP addy, not mac addy From agmalis@gmail.com Sun Nov 13 18:53:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87291F0C98 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:53:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IQggg0sRaSQf for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1931F0C8B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by qadb40 with SMTP id b40so3956516qad.10 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:53:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=qY3hAUgYCIBNMVXJSu01ZWBhTTQ47TLjQw9/QVs/Ps4=; b=NqkfVK+IcH+7q4PBATIhVgkRwpGKZDggvSmDRjmCAlAFQqasVMeaPvz4+09YLjRAZQ trmfz3g2jeFYEVxpIhuaOhOtApL64vYJcMCxeg/kBr/j0GwQcFfOL9QsIR6b+wdwj8DG Ld3Q3sMU3a1lh92SOkVQh4ujlAMzLkadwBIMs= Received: by 10.224.186.8 with SMTP id cq8mr12945309qab.45.1321238831196; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:47:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.251.12 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:46:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20111114.111028.104045197.toshio@aniani.com> <1699BCC8-F61B-4D80-84EB-274A1F97FF53@nttv6.net> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:46:50 +0800 Message-ID: To: Randy Bush Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Chris Morrow , TACHIBANA toshio , 82attendees@ietf.org, Arifumi Matsumoto Subject: Re: [82attendees] ip address geolocation problem? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:53:54 -0000 Speedtest.net still thinks that we're in Prague. :-) Cheers, Andy On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> Then, why not change MAC addresses of the APs for each IETF meeting ? :) > > geoloc is using IP addy, not mac addy > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From denghui02@gmail.com Sun Nov 13 18:54:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E0F1F0CA1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:54:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v1wdmBVmTbVm for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:54:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B1501F0C9F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by yenq4 with SMTP id q4so2832491yen.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:54:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vmFAFTLh8swB0N5UGP2OMRmkdxrHVGS/eCtReRcCO7E=; b=iYpAvaW/IzwHiDHg5YB/rnBQiDGA/tfIyK+nj9tPXqhLncD6v7dNJQ1rUq1pWgGxwt 6HdI5t8Rcg22NJWUt2o5OHMypOi5xyNlg7qaWAG9PQF5SiSUWMdzVg4/m5lYjPdT+uBj KRRtaW7aqFsMf7jkvGwpITd7VbvF/lC/DmX0U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.146.206.19 with SMTP id d19mr4444286yag.33.1321239290562; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.146.84.10 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:54:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A2F5@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A2F5@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:54:50 +0800 Message-ID: From: Hui Deng To: gabor.bajko@nokia.com, 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cd35c93c78b04b1a8fe1e Subject: Re: [82attendees] social ticket want name list X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:54:51 -0000 --0015175cd35c93c78b04b1a8fe1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need one =A3=AC thanks -Hui 2011/11/14 > Do you still need a social ticket? I am selling mine. Gabor**** > > ** ** > > *From:* 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org= ] > *On Behalf Of *ext Hui Deng > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:12 PM > *To:* 82attendees@ietf.org > *Subject:* [82attendees] social ticket want name list**** > > ** ** > > Hello all,**** > > **** > > I remember I am the No.3 puting my name for waiting for social ticket, bu= t > it looks like I am no. 5-6 or so now,**** > > Just wondering when people edit a new name, they are not put their > name from the bottom?**** > > **** > > -Hui**** > --0015175cd35c93c78b04b1a8fe1e Content-Type: text/html; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I need one =A3=AC thanks
 
-Hui

2011/11/14 <Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com>

Do y= ou still need a social ticket? I am selling mine. Gabor

<= /u> 

From:<= span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@= ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Hui Deng
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:12 PM
To: 82attendees@ietf.orgSubject: [82attendees] social ticket want name list

 

Hello all,

 

I remember I am the No.3 puting my name for wai= ting for social ticket, but it looks like I am no. 5-6 or so now,=

Just wondering when people edit a new name, they are= not put their name from the bottom?

 

-Hui


--0015175cd35c93c78b04b1a8fe1e-- From Dirk.Kutscher@neclab.eu Sun Nov 13 18:59:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F090F1F0CB0 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:59:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.549 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tChTu+RP6BDr for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516681F0CAD for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 18:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A199528000082; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:59:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas1.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2BcEfQTgp1xk; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:59:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from METHONE.office.hd (Methone.office.hd [192.168.24.54]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD1D28000080; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:58:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from Polydeuces.office.hd ([169.254.3.40]) by METHONE.office.hd ([192.168.24.54]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:58:33 +0100 From: Dirk Kutscher To: Randy Bush , Arifumi Matsumoto Thread-Topic: [82attendees] ip address geolocation problem? Thread-Index: AQHMonLCoV04PiLXREOzry00FrqKhJWrk5SAgAABvoCAAAJPgIAAFGAA Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:58:32 +0000 Message-ID: <82AB329A76E2484D934BBCA77E9F524924B9118C@Polydeuces.office.hd> References: <20111114.111028.104045197.toshio@aniani.com> <1699BCC8-F61B-4D80-84EB-274A1F97FF53@nttv6.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.7.0.202] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Chris Morrow , TACHIBANA toshio , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] ip address geolocation problem? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:59:21 -0000 > > Then, why not change MAC addresses of the APs for each IETF meeting ? := ) >=20 > geoloc is using IP addy, not mac addy Yes, but this one rather sounds like Apple's Location Service: http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2011/04/applemarkeybarton7-12-1= 0.pdf Best regards, Dirk From prvs=29226df78=jjaeggli@zynga.com Sun Nov 13 19:04:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E2B1F0CB0 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:04:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.917 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.917 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.318, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n2XcUoBn5-py for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from c7-ip01.zynga.com (c7-ip01.zynga.com [72.5.237.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878CD1F0CAD for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:04:14 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received-SPF: Pass identity=mailfrom; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="postmaster@C7-EX-HUB01.corp.zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received: from c7-ex-hub01.corp.zynga.com ([172.16.100.13]) by c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com with ESMTP; 13 Nov 2011 19:04:12 -0800 Received: from C7-EX-MB03.corp.zynga.com ([fe80::91f8:94d3:4c14:48cc]) by C7-EX-HUB01.corp.zynga.com ([fe80::5868:2b47:3c0e:c908%10]) with mapi; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:04:12 -0800 From: Joel Jaeggli To: Randy Bush , Arifumi Matsumoto Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:04:09 -0800 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] ip address geolocation problem? Thread-Index: AcyiehVEokexCE7JThy69KAiuqSG2g== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Chris Morrow , TACHIBANA toshio , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] ip address geolocation problem? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:04:15 -0000 the wifi dataset which the handsets are querying actually does use the BSSID of the ap's... that's a much finer grained (but still wrong in this case) dataset than the geoip datbases. --=20 Joel Jaeggli=20 Network Engineering +1.541.513.4095 jjaeggli@zynga.com On 11/14/11 10:39 , "Randy Bush" wrote: >> Then, why not change MAC addresses of the APs for each IETF meeting ? :) > >geoloc is using IP addy, not mac addy >_______________________________________________ >82attendees mailing list >82attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From leifj@sunet.se Sun Nov 13 19:10:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D328421F8514 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:10:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Ct+vfC5pUWA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from backup-server.nordu.net (backup-server.nordu.net [IPv6:2001:948:4:1::66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB4421F8505 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.8.54] (dhcp-9036.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.8.54]) (authenticated bits=0) by backup-server.nordu.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAE39rE5007370 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:09:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EC08680.4040401@sunet.se> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:09:52 +0100 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C539FA@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C539FA@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] No IPv6 on Eduroam WLAN? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:10:07 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/14/2011 02:55 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > The subject says it all Maybe it was solved cause I got a global address just now. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7AhoAACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZneUHQCguE0K2ZSphPVRJrXPXEEJgS+c ep0AoI0Y5/aBgVlPbGqpND/lQqRkRfJ8 =VqdG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From chelliot@gmail.com Sun Nov 13 19:43:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF3011E81B9 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:43:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.727 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.727 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, GB_ABOUTYOU=0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uWwWuXua9N35 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:43:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A801A11E81B8 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so5354143eyg.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:43:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=zsI3lKx3EeT65GXhdbgK0zYZaoZCTGYv5T5JB5lAQDw=; b=xGHn65IicrikixKq4eFf/EOBke8dgyZtpM0F/SyJBak3wvNVM1yAbZBjzr2o9QsCXH G3jnnFkD1qaG20tg+Wli5dP1tHXZvwRJRlKSo6gSv503n6uMDQn8FDpb24hcmAiFtM9k MXTAsjLDm75nDJB3fQoc4jtDDj7iI2zQIiJ8k= Received: by 10.213.15.134 with SMTP id k6mr430349eba.146.1321242193212; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:43:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chelliot@gmail.com Received: by 10.213.6.207 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:42:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EC08680.4040401@sunet.se> References: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C539FA@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> <4EC08680.4040401@sunet.se> From: Chris Elliott Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:42:52 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hRzU_jW7EJe7kPs_8nwcxhfG-NA Message-ID: To: "Eric Vyncke, (evyncke)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdce496b48f04b1a9abba Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] No IPv6 on Eduroam WLAN? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: chelliot@pobox.com List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:43:16 -0000 --0015174bdce496b48f04b1a9abba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Eric, I've also tested it and it's working for me as well. If you continue to have problems please open a ticket at trac.meeting.ietf.org and tell us about your environment (OS, etc.). Please capture the BSSID you're associated with at the time of the problem. Thanks! Chris. On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Leif Johansson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/14/2011 02:55 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > > The subject says it all > > Maybe it was solved cause I got a global address just now. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk7AhoAACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZneUHQCguE0K2ZSphPVRJrXPXEEJgS+c > ep0AoI0Y5/aBgVlPbGqpND/lQqRkRfJ8 > =VqdG > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > -- Chris Elliott chelliot@pobox.com --0015174bdce496b48f04b1a9abba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric,

I've also tested it and it's working for m= e as well.

If you continue to have problems please= open a ticket at trac.meeting.iet= f.org and tell us about your environment (OS, etc.). Please capture the= BSSID you're associated with at the time of the problem.

Thanks!
Chris.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Leif Johansson <= leifj@sunet.se> wrote:
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Chris,

 

When I checked again around 10:30 AM, it was working = fine.

 

-=E9ric

 

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Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org
Subject: = Re: [82attendees] No IPv6 on Eduroam = WLAN?

 

Eric,

 

I've also tested it and it's working for me as = well.

 

If you continue to have problems please open a ticket = at trac.meeting.ietf.org = and tell us about your environment (OS, etc.). Please capture the BSSID = you're associated with at the time of the = problem.

 

Thanks!

Chris.

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------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA285.8DD58ECC-- From yake@ieee.org Sun Nov 13 21:06:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D2A11E81D9 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:06:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id O3REVMoPEGNP for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from msag502.nifty.com (msag502.nifty.com [202.248.238.123]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5049511E81D3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from yake-VAIO (dhcp-150c.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.21.12]) (authenticated) by msag502.nifty.com with ESMTP id pAE55ttH009916 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:05:56 +0900 X-Nifty-SrcIP: [130.129.21.12] To: 82attendees@ietf.org From: MIYAKE Shigeru References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A2F5@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <201111141405.EJB88212.LBFZ@ieee.org> X-Mailer: Winbiff [Version 2.51 PL2 (on Trial)] X-Accept-Language: ja,en,zh Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:05:55 +0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Subject: [82attendees] Social Ticket available (was Re: social ticket want name list) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:06:12 -0000 Hello all, I also have one social ticket available for sale. Anybody who still wants to get it, please let me know, FCFS. Thanks, # Actually I pick one person from the Wiki name list, but no reply so far. # A'm sorry to the person who got my first mail... In message "Re: [82attendees] social ticket want name list" "Hui Deng " wrote: > > > I need one $B!$(B thanks > > -Hui > > 2011/11/14 > > > Do you still need a social ticket? I am selling mine. Gabor**** > > > > ** ** > > > > *From:* 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > > *On Behalf Of *ext Hui Deng > > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:12 PM > > *To:* 82attendees@ietf.org > > *Subject:* [82attendees] social ticket want name list**** > > > > ** ** > > > > Hello all,**** > > > > **** > > > > I remember I am the No.3 puting my name for waiting for social ticket, but > > it looks like I am no. 5-6 or so now,**** > > > > Just wondering when people edit a new name, they are not put their > > name from the bottom?**** > > > > **** > > > > -Hui**** > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > -- (((( Shigeru MIYAKE (((( )))) Tokyo, JAPAN )))) (((( E-mail: yake@ieee.org (((( )))) Cellular: +86-l39l0385l9O )))) From Jeff.Hodges@KingsMountain.com Sun Nov 13 21:28:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CA811E80D4 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:28:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.495 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.495 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WsZS3iHbx0U2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:28:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BAAD11E80B2 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30908 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 2011 05:28:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box514.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.114) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2011 05:28:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kingsmountain.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=6U9/aIBXIpEkLcCXDffYbDKZ6SIrh8viontEODh3t28=; b=q9Xq1v011r+HKLUKUZJqmRe34N4o8RUMmCcD+/0lI7AY0/8pRLtyuKMFKxp1LeTyoRsXKa07gJX6fXCJl8YotirQPcOZHx0wAeUK/mVCu9PMRsc5qPeWYS80SjpgifDO; Received: from dhcp-67bb.meeting.ietf.org ([130.129.103.187]) by box514.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RPp64-0006pS-UV for 82attendees@ietf.org; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:28:45 -0700 Message-ID: <4EC0A709.40102@KingsMountain.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:28:41 -0800 From: =JeffH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {11025:box514.bluehost.com:kingsmou:kingsmountain.com} {sentby:smtp auth 130.129.103.187 authed with jeff.hodges+kingsmountain.com} Subject: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:28:53 -0000 anybody found a decent pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? thanks, =JeffH From tonynad@microsoft.com Sun Nov 13 21:31:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0C811E8123 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:31:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.467 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.467 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, UNRESOLVED_TEMPLATE=3.132] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DHYpRvl5YEtd for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.microsoft.com (smtp.microsoft.com [131.107.115.214]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A8C11E8118 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com (157.54.79.174) by TK5-EXGWY-E803.partners.extranet.microsoft.com (10.251.56.169) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.176.0; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:31:38 -0800 Received: from AM1EHSOBE003.bigfish.com (157.54.51.80) by mail.microsoft.com (157.54.79.174) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.355.3; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:31:38 -0800 Received: from mail41-am1-R.bigfish.com (10.3.201.252) by AM1EHSOBE003.bigfish.com (10.3.204.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:31:07 +0000 Received: from mail41-am1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail41-am1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3BF2C04AF for <82attendees@ietf.org.FOPE.CONNECTOR.OVERRIDE>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:32:08 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: -25 X-BigFish: PS-25(zz9371K542Mzz1202h1082kzz1033IL8275bh8275dhz31h2a8h668h839h944h) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.55.157.141; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); (null); H:SN2PRD0304HT001.namprd03.prod.outlook.com; R:internal; EFV:INT Received-SPF: softfail (mail41-am1: transitioning domain of microsoft.com does not designate 157.55.157.141 as permitted sender) client-ip=157.55.157.141; envelope-from=tonynad@microsoft.com; helo=SN2PRD0304HT001.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ; .outlook.com ; Received: from mail41-am1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail41-am1 (MessageSwitch) id 1321248728617295_20481; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AM1EHSMHS003.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.201.247]) by mail41-am1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E5173C0048; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from SN2PRD0304HT001.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (157.55.157.141) by AM1EHSMHS003.bigfish.com (10.3.207.103) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.22; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:31:05 +0000 Received: from SN2PRD0304MB235.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.10.245]) by SN2PRD0304HT001.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.111.196.120]) with mapi id 14.16.0082.000; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:31:32 +0000 From: Anthony Nadalin To: =JeffH , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? Thread-Index: AQHMoo5R2JL31K0WFUOPhtdWykqlUJWr18lw Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:31:31 +0000 Message-ID: References: <4EC0A709.40102@KingsMountain.com> In-Reply-To: <4EC0A709.40102@KingsMountain.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.111.196.23] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OrganizationHeadersPreserved: SN2PRD0304HT001.namprd03.prod.outlook.com X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%59$Dn%KINGSMOUNTAIN.COM$RO%2$TLS%6$FQDN%131.107.125.5$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%59$Dn%IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%6$FQDN%131.107.125.5$TlsDn% X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.com X-CrossPremisesHeadersPromoted: TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com X-CrossPremisesHeadersFiltered: TK5EX14MLTC103.redmond.corp.microsoft.com Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:31:46 -0000 This looks interesting but about 14k away so not within the hyatt/conventio= nCenter area http://www.taiwanfun.com/north/taipei/nightlife/0508/0508Taiwa= nbeer.htm=20 -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of =3DJeffH Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 9:29 PM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter are= a ? anybody found a decent pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter are= a ? thanks, =3DJeffH _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From klaas@wierenga.net Sun Nov 13 21:32:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C64111E812B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:32:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nah3WP-6JfRs for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:32:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from out48-ams.mf.surf.net (out48-ams.mf.surf.net [145.0.1.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E508911E80D4 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from teletubbie.het.net.je (teletubbie.het.net.je [192.87.110.29]) by outgoing2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id pAE5WQW9024953 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:32:26 +0100 Received: from 128-107-239-233.cisco.com ([128.107.239.233] helo=sjc-vpnasa-961.cisco.com) by teletubbie.het.net.je with esmtpsa (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RPp8O-0000RA-Rk for 82attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:31:09 +0100 Message-ID: <4EC0A7E6.9010404@wierenga.net> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:32:22 +0100 From: Klaas Wierenga User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C539FA@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> <4EC08680.4040401@sunet.se> <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C53A00@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C53A00@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: no malware found X-Bayes-Prob: 0.5 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=192.87.110.29; country=NL; latitude=52.5000; longitude=5.7500; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5000,5.7500&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: p-out:default (inherits from p:default,base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0vFURwqod - 2b3f12981456 - 20111114 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 145.0.1.48 Subject: Re: [82attendees] No IPv6 on Eduroam WLAN? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:32:33 -0000 On 11/14/11 5:26 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > Chris, > > When I checked again around 10:30 AM, it was working fine. It seems intermittent or room dependant, I got one earlier today (radext room) now I don't get one in the jose room. Klaas > > -ric > > *From:*chelliot@gmail.com [mailto:chelliot@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of > *Chris Elliott > *Sent:* lundi 14 novembre 2011 11:43 > *To:* Eric Vyncke (evyncke) > *Cc:* 82attendees@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [82attendees] No IPv6 on Eduroam WLAN? > > Eric, > > I've also tested it and it's working for me as well. > > If you continue to have problems please open a ticket at > trac.meeting.ietf.org and tell us about > your environment (OS, etc.). Please capture the BSSID you're associated > with at the time of the problem. > > Thanks! > > Chris. > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Leif Johansson > wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/14/2011 02:55 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > > The subject says it all > > Maybe it was solved cause I got a global address just now. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk7AhoAACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZneUHQCguE0K2ZSphPVRJrXPXEEJgS+c > ep0AoI0Y5/aBgVlPbGqpND/lQqRkRfJ8 > =VqdG > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > > -- > Chris Elliott > chelliot@pobox.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Sun Nov 13 21:37:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDDD21F8CB3 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:37:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nZirknDJjqUB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:37:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA8321F8CB4 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAE5bBC4016355 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:37:11 GMT X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk pAE5bBC4016355 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=ecs.soton.ac.uk; s=200903; t=1321249031; bh=GYByjCFq7H44At5Q7aIfBJvQz+8=; h=Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:References:To; b=ruIcxdI3Cc8lYDvK1lVY4Ux0WFtoDkvRAcrXXbotH8CxL5iWA5smtSX5ZdhMynbLs N5oYEQELoL3XL0jArGMhYbj5oDp6rDr+w22lBjvJBqUVg2ZIhNGJPBVpDQOwTGV3Gh mBvK6PHSmrwog1RClBd+hlqthQC6eQ5Cqg6ct4nQ= Received: from gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102::25d]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) envelope-from with ESMTP id nAD5bB0543751709Gh ret-id none; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:37:11 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::16:f893:cc6c:5ef0:f780] ([IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:f893:cc6c:5ef0:f780]) (authenticated bits=0) by gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAE5b37t008537 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:37:05 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Tim Chown In-Reply-To: <4EC0A709.40102@KingsMountain.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:37:02 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <4EC0A709.40102@KingsMountain.com> <67AF2816-182A-429F-B56F-0711C4497F29@ecs.soton.ac.uk> To: attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-smtpf-Report: sid=nAD5bB054375170900; tid=nAD5bB0543751709Gh; client=relay,ipv6; mail=; rcpt=; nrcpt=1:0; fails=0 X-ECS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ECS-MailScanner-ID: pAE5bBC4016355 X-ECS-MailScanner-From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:37:19 -0000 There is one called The Tavern close to the hotel, but that turned out = to sell pretty bad beer, at high tourist prices. Their spicy cabbage = and bacon was very interesting. There seems to be a brew pub within 5 mins walk which may be rather = better. tim On 14 Nov 2011, at 05:28, =3DJeffH wrote: > anybody found a decent pub/bar/tavern hereabouts = hyatt/conventionCenter area ? >=20 > thanks, >=20 > =3DJeffH > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From leifj@sunet.se Sun Nov 13 21:42:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C1111E81BA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:42:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IMJsYBPTdPAK for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from backup-server.nordu.net (backup-server.nordu.net [IPv6:2001:948:4:1::66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5781811E8196 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.8.54] (dhcp-9036.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.8.54]) (authenticated bits=0) by backup-server.nordu.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAE5gPxa015696 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:42:33 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EC0AA3F.8010804@sunet.se> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:42:23 +0100 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EC0A709.40102@KingsMountain.com> <67AF2816-182A-429F-B56F-0711C4497F29@ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:42:36 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/14/2011 06:37 AM, Tim Chown wrote: > There is one called The Tavern close to the hotel, but that turned > out to sell pretty bad beer, at high tourist prices. Their spicy > cabbage and bacon was very interesting. > > There seems to be a brew pub within 5 mins walk which may be rather > better. google map? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7AqjsACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZncsCgCfQVQ29uvWsyJQuDtOlw7OO9NW RM8AoL18o8k6L/aJJfSsWk00BGMZXgzG =BMDJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com Sun Nov 13 21:44:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA3D11E81BA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:44:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.162 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.162 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.437, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1R4sQb3t3-gI for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vw0-f44.google.com (mail-vw0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4210511E8196 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by vws5 with SMTP id 5so5747291vws.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:44:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Hjf+k+2EJZj/AmJp2dmSmphFxeOWUInx1PBvJuYSzAA=; b=QboiQN7yu3eIrRg8Lwc4xBSDG1hdTPvQlyZ5MMTALUszdF1GX7tE6CelUIw+XfvhYL tBeyFZy52b1BFt7TwWt9kT7jRXSKyeV90mCU0lAdM27xSBCXszihbGu4b2RiNa3W9Sgv bMfqRjxk/tYcbcfQD/FwGEDjt8NpKkDlHl/VQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.65.1 with SMTP id t1mr32306876vds.121.1321249460683; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:44:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.175.131 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:44:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <67AF2816-182A-429F-B56F-0711C4497F29@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC0A709.40102@KingsMountain.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:44:20 -0600 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Tim Chown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:44:23 -0000 There is a Gordon Biersch Restaurant/Brewery over in the shopping area. You wander across to the Taipei 101 shopping center (using the pedestrian overpass) and then follow that through the mall towards the movies (heading left as you enter the mall. Then hang left at the movies and cross the street. Once over, you hang right and then left and it's at the corner towards the end of the first segment. On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Tim Chown wrote: > There is one called The Tavern close to the hotel, but that turned out to= sell pretty bad beer, at high tourist prices. =A0Their spicy cabbage and b= acon was very interesting. > > There seems to be a brew pub within 5 mins walk which may be rather bette= r. > > tim > > On 14 Nov 2011, at 05:28, =3DJeffH wrote: > >> anybody found a decent pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter = area ? >> >> thanks, >> >> =3DJeffH >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From DAtkins@mocana.com Sun Nov 13 21:46:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9670C21F8CCF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:46:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g2OcaI9Qq80u for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:46:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.mocana.com (smtp.mocana.com [12.208.167.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 85E8421F8CCE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:46:50 -0800 (PST) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1321249608-01c7880ba5b98e0001-qg5QZn Received: from email.mocana.com ([192.168.3.216]) by smtp.mocana.com with ESMTP id CgNU2EnCK9KuZHt2; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:46:48 -0800 (PST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: DAtkins@mocana.com Received: from yugi.mocana.local ([192.168.3.216]) by yugi.mocana.local ([192.168.3.216]) with mapi; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:46:54 -0800 From: Derek Atkins X-Barracuda-BBL-IP: 192.168.3.216 X-Barracuda-RBL-IP: 192.168.3.216 To: Mary Barnes , Tim Chown Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:46:36 -0800 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? 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Thread-Index: AcyikH8mVBWtJGFxSNWp0rLyK7MyQAAAEbu3 Message-ID: <50DADDE6B33B1B47904E685AAFDC182443A109C874@yugi.mocana.local> References: <67AF2816-182A-429F-B56F-0711C4497F29@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC0A709.40102@KingsMountain.com> , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[192.168.3.216] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1321249608 X-Barracuda-URL: http://10.30.30.25:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at mocana.com X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.80204 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Cc: attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:46:51 -0000 I wonder if my G-B Passport Card will work here, too? :) -derek ________________________________________ From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf= Of Mary Barnes [mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:44 AM To: Tim Chown Cc: attendees Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter= area ? There is a Gordon Biersch Restaurant/Brewery over in the shopping area. You wander across to the Taipei 101 shopping center (using the pedestrian overpass) and then follow that through the mall towards the movies (heading left as you enter the mall. Then hang left at the movies and cross the street. Once over, you hang right and then left and it's at the corner towards the end of the first segment. On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Tim Chown wrote: > There is one called The Tavern close to the hotel, but that turned out to= sell pretty bad beer, at high tourist prices. Their spicy cabbage and bac= on was very interesting. > > There seems to be a brew pub within 5 mins walk which may be rather bette= r. > > tim > > On 14 Nov 2011, at 05:28, =3DJeffH wrote: > >> anybody found a decent pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter = area ? >> >> thanks, >> >> =3DJeffH >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From chelliot@gmail.com Sun Nov 13 21:54:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4355911E81F2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:54:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.018 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.018 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.708, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sgx-+Of9OnYQ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E619C11E81F1 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so5395462eyg.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:54:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=M4/u3EreOtf5cBxHGNSCvixT6Qg+wEQkp+QNn32s1/U=; b=BRwBcem8TH7gpVnclZf/QgDRtb3IK9M6LCvlESASCI95U8Md40yHd1Bgt7Gs++Y7pw e3urCvZ81lVahVWG2AKmaNCdyj5V/JV/wrkvuFSWeCYnMBhTGahJhJw8YMQUJn4KIFil VCbApgapaSdcKPV9iQ1jrPS8N0lT/6GC/8DII= Received: by 10.213.8.71 with SMTP id g7mr1670632ebg.108.1321250087459; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:54:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chelliot@gmail.com Received: by 10.213.6.207 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:54:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EC0A7E6.9010404@wierenga.net> References: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C539FA@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> <4EC08680.4040401@sunet.se> <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C53A00@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> <4EC0A7E6.9010404@wierenga.net> From: Chris Elliott Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:54:26 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cLrBYe9spc77z80PQvlFXz-zJ08 Message-ID: To: Klaas Wierenga Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c18f21f60ba04b1ab82af Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] No IPv6 on Eduroam WLAN? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: chelliot@pobox.com List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:54:51 -0000 --0015174c18f21f60ba04b1ab82af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've looked at the network configuration for the 3F banquet room and I don't see why there should be a problem. However, I am guessing about what APs you might have been associated to. We have a database of historical associations, so if you give us your wireless MAC address, I can debug the problem further. Thanks, Chris. On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Klaas Wierenga wrote: > On 11/14/11 5:26 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > >> Chris, >> >> When I checked again around 10:30 AM, it was working fine. >> > > It seems intermittent or room dependant, I got one earlier today (radext > room) now I don't get one in the jose room. > > Klaas > > >> -=E9ric >> >> *From:*chelliot@gmail.com [mailto:chelliot@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of >> *Chris Elliott >> *Sent:* lundi 14 novembre 2011 11:43 >> *To:* Eric Vyncke (evyncke) >> *Cc:* 82attendees@ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [82attendees] No IPv6 on Eduroam WLAN? >> >> >> Eric, >> >> I've also tested it and it's working for me as well. >> >> If you continue to have problems please open a ticket at >> trac.meeting.ietf.org and tell us about >> >> your environment (OS, etc.). Please capture the BSSID you're associated >> with at the time of the problem. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Chris. >> >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Leif Johansson > > wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 11/14/2011 02:55 AM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: >> > The subject says it all >> >> Maybe it was solved cause I got a global address just now. >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAk7AhoAACgkQ8Jx8Ft**bMZneUHQCguE0K2ZSphPVRJrXPXEEJ**gS+c >> ep0AoI0Y5/aBgVlPbGqpND/**lQqRkRfJ8 >> =3DVqdG >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> ______________________________**_________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/82attendees >> >> >> >> -- >> Chris Elliott >> chelliot@pobox.com >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/82attendees >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/82attendees > --=20 Chris Elliott chelliot@pobox.com --0015174c18f21f60ba04b1ab82af Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've looked at the network configuration for the 3F banquet room and I = don't see why there should be a problem. However, I am guessing about w= hat APs you might have been associated to.

We have a dat= abase of historical associations, so if you give us your wireless MAC addre= ss, I can debug the problem further.

Thanks,
Chris.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Klaas Wierenga <<= a href=3D"mailto:klaas@wierenga.net" target=3D"_blank">klaas@wierenga.net> wrote:
On 11/14/11 5:26 AM, Eric Vyncke (evync= ke) wrote:
Chris,

When I checked again around 10:30 AM, it was working fine.

It seems intermittent or room dependant, I got one earlier today (radext ro= om) now I don't get one in the jose room.

Klaas


-=E9ric

*From:*chelliot@gma= il.com [mailto:= chelliot@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of
*Chris Elliott
*Sent:* lundi 14 novembre 2011 11:43
*To:* Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
*Cc:* 82attendees= @ietf.org
*Subject:* Re: [82attendees] No IPv6 on Eduroam WLAN?


Eric,

I've also tested it and it's working for me as well.

If you continue to have problems please open a ticket at
trac.meeti= ng.ietf.org <http://trac.meeting.ietf.org> and tell us about

your environment (OS, etc.). Please capture the BSSID you're associated=
with at the time of the problem.

Thanks!

Chris.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se
<mailto:leifj@sunet.= se>> wrote:

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=A0> The subject says it all

Maybe it was solved cause I got a global address just now.
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--0015174c18f21f60ba04b1ab82af-- From mellon@fugue.com Sun Nov 13 21:57:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5637311E81F2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:57:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.706 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.706 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.496, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N8gGZ7mhUYUb for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:57:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E471C11E8177 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:57:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.13.155] (unknown [122.147.240.7]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9BE342380529 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:57:28 -0500 (EST) From: Ted Lemon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9C71B3AA-4F77-4819-9752-82BCDF6738FC Message-Id: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:57:51 +0800 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) Subject: [82attendees] Very nice Chinese vegetarian buffet near(ish) the venue X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:57:30 -0000 --Apple-Mail-9C71B3AA-4F77-4819-9752-82BCDF6738FC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I pretty much lucked in on this place today when I was looking for a differe= nt vegetarian restaurant (which turned out to be a yoga studio). They had a= really nice selection, although it's fairly fancy stuff. No ma po dofu. B= ut it was really good, and I'll probably go there again. It's very easy to= get to on the bus from the Shangri-La, and I think it's pretty easy to get t= o from the venue as well. I hope that the link I've shared below actually w= orks so that you can find it on a map. Dropped Pin --Apple-Mail-9C71B3AA-4F77-4819-9752-82BCDF6738FC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-F4EA8350-0D77-4DBB-A675-7AF9043A43C4 --Apple-Mail-F4EA8350-0D77-4DBB-A675-7AF9043A43C4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I pretty much lucked in on this place today when I was looking for a different vegetarian restaurant (which turned out to be a yoga studio).   They had a really nice selection, although it's fairly fancy stuff.  No ma po dofu.   But it was really good, and I'll probably go there again.   It's very easy to get to on the bus from the Shangri-La, and I think it's pretty easy to get to from the venue as well.   I hope that the link I've shared below actually works so that you can find it on a map.



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We only send and re= ceive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From yake@ieee.org Sun Nov 13 22:29:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C2611E81F8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:29:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dYLj0KUI1USp for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:29:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from msag502.nifty.com (msag502.nifty.com [202.248.238.123]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0561211E81F7 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:29:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from yake-VAIO (dhcp-150c.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.21.12]) (authenticated) by msag502.nifty.com with ESMTP id pAE6SfPn013150; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:28:42 +0900 X-Nifty-SrcIP: [130.129.21.12] To: 82attendees@ietf.org From: MIYAKE Shigeru References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A2F5@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <201111141405.EJB88212.LBFZ@ieee.org> In-Reply-To: <201111141405.EJB88212.LBFZ@ieee.org> Message-Id: <201111141528.BBE20578.LBFZ@ieee.org> X-Mailer: Winbiff [Version 2.51 PL2 (on Trial)] X-Accept-Language: ja,en,zh Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:28:41 +0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Subject: Re: [82attendees] Social Ticket available (was Re: social ticket wantname list) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:29:12 -0000 Hello, Within 1 hours I got 6 emails for the one ticket. I have already sent back to the person who will got it. I am very sorry to other persons who are interested in it. Thanks you, In message <201111141405.EJB88212.LBFZ@ieee.org> "[82attendees] Social Ticket available (was Re: social ticket wantname list) " "MIYAKE Shigeru " wrote: > Hello all, > > I also have one social ticket available for sale. > Anybody who still wants to get it, please let me know, FCFS. > > Thanks, > > # Actually I pick one person from the Wiki name list, but no reply so far. > # A'm sorry to the person who got my first mail... > > In message > > "Re: [82attendees] social ticket want name list" > "Hui Deng " wrote: > > > > > > > I need one $B!$(B thanks > > > > -Hui > > > > 2011/11/14 > > > > > Do you still need a social ticket? I am selling mine. Gabor**** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > *From:* 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf. org] > > > *On Behalf Of *ext Hui Deng > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:12 PM > > > *To:* 82attendees@ietf.org > > > *Subject:* [82attendees] social ticket want name list**** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > Hello all,**** > > > > > > **** > > > > > > I remember I am the No.3 puting my name for waiting for social ticket, but > > > it looks like I am no. 5-6 or so now,**** > > > > > > Just wondering when people edit a new name, they are not put their > > > name from the bottom?**** > > > > > > **** > > > > > > -Hui**** > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 82attendees mailing list > > 82attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > > > > > > > -- > (((( Shigeru MIYAKE (((( > )))) Tokyo, JAPAN )))) > (((( E-mail: yake@ieee.org (((( > )))) Cellular: +86-l39l0385l9O )))) > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > -- (((( Shigeru MIYAKE (((( )))) Tokyo, JAPAN )))) (((( E-mail: yake@ieee.org (((( )))) Cellular: +86-l39l0385l9O )))) From chelliot@gmail.com Sun Nov 13 22:29:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D96011E81FD for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:29:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.615 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.615 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.361, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XtUCtqUoQZfq for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7B711E8203 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so5406626eyg.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:29:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=hpPA0vzGtKPskPOJC/4pBvfoi6tkUVzKayMEQLDOoJg=; b=GvgQHrQiiiVetolPGI9fxkqnSrMuTi4vVTWjhbWme3DCERFjF0Boj4KU5K/p8dKUFA qgj/5HQbOF9flcZybIyObY1VV0aW5BKVhzZPbia/UtEOTr/dbn29zcjbIxAlSxSuX4mq CIClA+U/TIpBu1otfxfUZghuo94+l+Ms0XlIM= Received: by 10.213.2.70 with SMTP id 6mr1749145ebi.32.1321252160141; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:29:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chelliot@gmail.com Received: by 10.213.6.207 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:28:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <48987AC7-FD1C-424C-AC41-224981CCF28E@tid.es> References: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C539FA@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> <4EC08680.4040401@sunet.se> <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C53A00@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> <4EC0A7E6.9010404@wierenga.net> <48987AC7-FD1C-424C-AC41-224981CCF28E@tid.es> From: Chris Elliott Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:28:55 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: B82ZdY3i_xZFAbLTnZwRYlwieiU Message-ID: To: DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517475e1aa9fba804b1abfd8f Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Klaas Wierenga Subject: Re: [82attendees] No IPv6 on Eduroam WLAN? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: chelliot@pobox.com List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:29:23 -0000 --001517475e1aa9fba804b1abfd8f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:27 PM, DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA wrote: > > On 14 Nov 2011, at 13:54 , Chris Elliott wrote: > > > I've looked at the network configuration for the 3F banquet room and I > don't see why there should be a problem. However, I am guessing about wha= t > APs you might have been associated to. > > > > We have a database of historical associations, so if you give us your > wireless MAC address, I can debug the problem further. > > > I'm at the 3F Banquet and have an IPv6 address through eduroam=85 Would y= ou > need my MAC? > No. Only if it's failing. Thanks. -- > "Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno" > > Dr Diego R. Lopez > Telefonica I+D > > e-mail: diego@tid.es > Tel: +34 913 129 041 > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar > nuestra pol=EDtica de env=EDo y recepci=F3n de correo electr=F3nico en el= enlace > situado m=E1s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and > receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx > --=20 Chris Elliott chelliot@pobox.com --001517475e1aa9fba804b1abfd8f Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:27 PM, DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA <<= a href=3D"mailto:diego@tid.es">diego@tid.es> wrote:

On 14 Nov 2011, at 13:54 , Chris Elliott wrote:

> I've looked at the network configuration for the 3F banquet room a= nd I don't see why there should be a problem. However, I am guessing ab= out what APs you might have been associated to.
>
> We have a database of historical associations, so if you give us your = wireless MAC address, I can debug the problem further.
>
I'm at the 3F Banquet and have an IPv6 address through eduroam=85= Would you need my MAC?

No. Only if it&= #39;s failing. Thanks.=A0

--
"Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno"

Dr Diego R. Lopez
Telefonica I+D

e-mail: diego@tid.es
Tel: =A0 =A0 =A0+34 913 129 041
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Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nu= estra pol=EDtica de env=EDo y recepci=F3n de correo electr=F3nico en el enl= ace situado m=E1s abajo.
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--001517475e1aa9fba804b1abfd8f-- From wilmer@google.com Sun Nov 13 22:30:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF5511E81F1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:30:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1IFcGCzvgB5L for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:30:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268F411E81ED for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:30:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by gye5 with SMTP id 5so5529499gye.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:30:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-system-of-record; bh=nUNxWTubcaA5rgAOLc46jfObTeOW/v29a417fWKse2I=; b=JOviFkWbHUqf/l22UTGATCtzI8dJSf9zwfc1XKan7Qv3Uhy+GpudtQyuWLHBj91ond jR1ABaXoS5IjV95z6Zdg== Received: by 10.50.100.194 with SMTP id fa2mr17405239igb.49.1321252228517; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:30:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.100.194 with SMTP id fa2mr17405185igb.49.1321252227590; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.16.205 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:30:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3615F3CCD55F054395A882F51C6E5FDA181FF77B@szxeml513-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <3615F3CCD55F054395A882F51C6E5FDA181FF77B@szxeml513-mbx.china.huawei.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:30:27 +0800 Message-ID: From: Wilmer van der Gaast To: TianLinyi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] agenda andriod app does not work with andriod 3.2 X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:30:47 -0000 2011/11/13 TianLinyi : > my device is huawei mediapad with andriod 3.2. the agenda app always quit. > If it still doesn't work for you, try Giggity instead. It's my universal conference/festival schedule browser, I added IETF82 to it now - also with more detailed information than the other app (specific workgroup sessions and with snapshots of agendas where I could scrape them automatically). http://gaa.st/giggity or https://market.android.com/details?id=net.gaast.giggity Cheers, -- Wilmer van der Gaast, Traffic SRE/Google Public DNS team. Google Ireland. From chelliot@gmail.com Sun Nov 13 22:39:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408AE11E8214 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:39:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.705 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.705 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.271, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iO0LZFylMk+j for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C0D11E8216 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:39:20 -0800 (PST) Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so5409991eyg.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:39:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=XEJPl2pplZ0ytCWeSFl2csE9utoE6MBuWpA0Cp3Kcqw=; b=F8+cdAgbByzXzfBe0EawADSV7w0DB4eT4SdD84bYd0LlAUN59J2x/MMD+2vO+W41bl tg3rnmB2iHF8RmTQcmxAbLbZIGJ0Fbfqcj0+o3AyavYftdQdiT0LAFL9k2vb35zvMSbB 9/g8VB5YnPTir+Cqx2hEK5iurZd8J/O6BFYbU= Received: by 10.213.15.134 with SMTP id k6mr460488eba.146.1321252759152; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:39:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chelliot@gmail.com Received: by 10.213.6.207 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:38:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C539FA@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> <4EC08680.4040401@sunet.se> <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C53A00@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> <4EC0A7E6.9010404@wierenga.net> <48987AC7-FD1C-424C-AC41-224981CCF28E@tid.es> From: Chris Elliott Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:38:58 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: npKwqKTsBJBocCM8trsoA2Z_1hk Message-ID: To: DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bdce45e272204b1ac2152 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Klaas Wierenga Subject: Re: [82attendees] No IPv6 on Eduroam WLAN? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: chelliot@pobox.com List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:39:22 -0000 --0015174bdce45e272204b1ac2152 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, I found an inconsistency in how we applied our RA and DHCP filters on some of the switches. I've applied a fix. I think this will fix the problems we've been seeing. Please let me know if you still have issues. Chris. On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Chris Elliott wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:27 PM, DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA wrote: > >> >> On 14 Nov 2011, at 13:54 , Chris Elliott wrote: >> >> > I've looked at the network configuration for the 3F banquet room and I >> don't see why there should be a problem. However, I am guessing about wh= at >> APs you might have been associated to. >> > >> > We have a database of historical associations, so if you give us your >> wireless MAC address, I can debug the problem further. >> > >> I'm at the 3F Banquet and have an IPv6 address through eduroam=85 Would = you >> need my MAC? >> > > No. Only if it's failing. Thanks. > > -- >> "Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno" >> >> Dr Diego R. Lopez >> Telefonica I+D >> >> e-mail: diego@tid.es >> Tel: +34 913 129 041 >> ----------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar >> nuestra pol=EDtica de env=EDo y recepci=F3n de correo electr=F3nico en e= l enlace >> situado m=E1s abajo. >> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and >> receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. >> http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx >> > > > > -- > Chris Elliott > chelliot@pobox.com > > --=20 Chris Elliott chelliot@pobox.com --0015174bdce45e272204b1ac2152 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All,

I found an inconsistency in how we applied our RA a= nd DHCP filters on some of the switches. I've applied a fix. I think th= is will fix the problems we've been seeing. Please let me know if you s= till have issues.

Chris.

On Mon, Nov 14= , 2011 at 2:28 PM, Chris Elliott <chelliot@pobox.com> wrote:
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:27 PM, DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA <diego@ti= d.es> wrote:

On 14 Nov 2011, at 13:54 , Chris Elliott wrote:

> I've looked at the network configuration for the 3F banquet room a= nd I don't see why there should be a problem. However, I am guessing ab= out what APs you might have been associated to.
>
> We have a database of historical associations, so if you give us your = wireless MAC address, I can debug the problem further.
>
I'm at the 3F Banquet and have an IPv6 address through eduroam=85= Would you need my MAC?

No. Only = if it's failing. Thanks.=A0

--
"Esta vez no fallaremos, Doctor Infierno"

Dr Diego R. Lopez
Telefonica I+D

e-mail: diego@tid.es<= br> Tel: =A0 =A0 =A0+34 913 129 041
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This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and re= ceive email on the basis of the terms set out at.
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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all=2C Anyone knows where to shop for electrical devices like Hair dryers=2C hair = straighteners etc. and electronic toys in Taipei nearby TICC. =20 ----------------- with regards PEER AZMAT SHAH Ph. D. scholar=2C Research Engineer CoReNet (Centre of Research in Networks & Telecom)M. A. Jinnah University= =2C Islamabad=2C Pakistan.+92 321 582 2507 Motto: A success is not a success at all unless it is succeeded by another = success. Long Live PAKISTAN > From: DAtkins@mocana.com > To: mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com=3B tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk > Date: Sun=2C 13 Nov 2011 21:46:36 -0800 > CC: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCent= er area ? >=20 > I wonder if my G-B Passport Card will work here=2C too? :) >=20 > -derek > ________________________________________ > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Beha= lf Of Mary Barnes [mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday=2C November 14=2C 2011 12:44 AM > To: Tim Chown > Cc: attendees > Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCent= er area ? >=20 > There is a Gordon Biersch Restaurant/Brewery over in the shopping > area. You wander across to the Taipei 101 shopping center (using the > pedestrian overpass) and then follow that through the mall towards the > movies (heading left as you enter the mall. Then hang left at the > movies and cross the street. Once over=2C you hang right and then left > and it's at the corner towards the end of the first segment. >=20 > On Sun=2C Nov 13=2C 2011 at 11:37 PM=2C Tim Chown w= rote: > > There is one called The Tavern close to the hotel=2C but that turned ou= t to sell pretty bad beer=2C at high tourist prices. Their spicy cabbage a= nd bacon was very interesting. > > > > There seems to be a brew pub within 5 mins walk which may be rather bet= ter. > > > > tim > > > > On 14 Nov 2011=2C at 05:28=2C =3DJeffH wrote: > > > >> anybody found a decent pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCente= r area ? > >> > >> thanks=2C > >> > >> =3DJeffH > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 82attendees mailing list > >> 82attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 82attendees mailing list > > 82attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees = --_16cd67ec-8467-46e1-b685-c530e08a711a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable = --_16cd67ec-8467-46e1-b685-c530e08a711a_-- From maazrehan@yahoo.com Sun Nov 13 23:08:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D701F11E80BD for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:08:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.002 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_80=2, HTML_FONT_SIZE_LARGE=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xWUdk2P7iFW5 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from nm36-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm36-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 53F2E11E80C3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2011 07:08:02 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.230] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2011 07:08:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2011 07:08:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 840077.77262.bm@omp1039.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 13677 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Nov 2011 07:08:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1321254482; bh=hFK8nJliAiZbBObttbNyJPGhMm4etfEQ773oIh4DjNk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=f4ImyVXtNmMqNoP/pZIDOHPE5IGThBKNt3AMyn5wvk8NtnZISVnvv8UebM6NkxiUEMgdfr6CyNYIs06i1hWZJ1j/y0mVQ+rLwMxXHN3sLJSw+ERjQVNeC7sLvUPa0B3pxOWaft2Xay1+6rrAn18NeGkkjqlEmrg21Rc9cas+PV0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Qlp/P4A2MYKQs7pUw85Fo0U3ZrswxRUJpeqYZM9rfS4i8l88H4jlUS1UZTzbuCTuViyZnGUU8Q7liD3fwovxcJc/A2Vr/u97QnJn22KMdt+j45l0ly67yFhgac1SCrxRRmBQtE/RwzrywlwbVjjkrcnNvF+OT+4+dbGUmkJ1d3s=; X-YMail-OSG: qQLqOx4VM1majhV_i359RUgUGjs0ku3yeMvykONi.LBj7XK Bznsbwtw7xO0AN9bn91rrj868c9fRd5LO2_5ijb8_hgjZTbSCVPg.Asb3Gcl DV_cjd9WK72oMq0uCNpNOkSx4DHLgDVj1wu79CAQmI3oop4W9xRd3aNXtESQ V51XB1vs9kT8Hi9UwdG23xNcoPnWnb2N4cnD3VBA4DBY0KvPvNmRUBYXSnQS pecrExEekwtvgVaxxDXE5RzDXeDADT1K4t_AuGMjb1Arv1JMSvhciURSIT_x NXLAN6QBcjDjNsYFD.qiu8rB4K4m7eGVcdnhvuRLMn9aQzkQWLm5wiTbQSST AsFQR0LnEN_eBJI2DaK8VZLeBK6GUPG2jJcBlT5tlcK2o94lEewR_JGAG8KC 9kh0.p31NiGIAbyPc_.Ud4gQJfU5XNAuPV_nReHNacSFvdO4e3DRomzuthC3 dYQpZ3CHN2RQXdeHZSQb5YwLqaapxhmK6qdc5xwu2n15UKJ9CPz0NhL1p0uW w2LEDlDwHd1wbs4SKMWc- Received: from [203.69.99.17] by web160720.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:08:02 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 Message-ID: <1321254482.12940.YahooMailNeo@web160720.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:08:02 -0800 (PST) From: Maaz Rehan To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1380432524-656063466-1321254482=:12940" Subject: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maaz Rehan List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:08:13 -0000 ---1380432524-656063466-1321254482=:12940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All,=0A=0ACan anybody, Local here, can guide where is the Market for Toy= s and Electronics? =0A=0A=0AI shall be thankful for this convenience.=0A=0A= =0ABest Regards.=A0 =0A=0AMuhammad Maaz Rehan=0AAssistant Professor=0ADepar= tment of Computer Science=0ACOMSATS Institute of Information Technology=0AQ= uaid Avenue, The Mall, WAH CANTT=0Ahttp://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/departmen= t/CS.html=0AMobile: +92 333 997 4992 ---1380432524-656063466-1321254482=:12940 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,

Can anybody, Local here, can guide where is the Market for Toys and Electronics?

I shall be thankful for this conve= nience.

= Best Regards.  =

= Muhammad Maaz Rehan
= Assistant Professor
Department of Computer Science
COMSATS Institu= te of Information Technology
Quaid Avenue, The Mall, WAH CANTT
http://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html
Mobile: +92 333 997 4992
---1380432524-656063466-1321254482=:12940-- From ole@cisco.com Sun Nov 13 23:25:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88C021F8CDC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:25:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.135 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.135 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.136, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_71=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aJaf13p82fUR for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-1.cisco.com (mtv-iport-1.cisco.com [173.36.130.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3AF21F8CC4 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:25:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1054; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321255535; x=1322465135; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=0AtuZdi5DjAmISny2TL81Xy3DGKVh7kKfL29Xd+SC3c=; b=c7qm4b76EPfvaOgJBVTfVj7SmSlJ3zrlib64eIEik0vlqmAq01GX4SV5 jE9eEbiCL6L354H+8m1t2lFJouQGJzU1CzOqMwfIv+aDAAqLP2WhlMIHq zMsuuNEoAZ06TcrNDdVYLVGHcrSWJz0/tQ4Ufnjn8AWo06DoVjuqxL0TL w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAK7BwE6rRDoG/2dsb2JhbAA/A6l9gQWBcgEBAQMBEgECASQ/EAtGVwYTIodgmSoBgy4PAZoRhmWDGgSIEJZqh04 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,506,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="12348416" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2011 07:25:34 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com (sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com [10.21.84.201]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAE7PYCh026236; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:25:34 GMT Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:25:33 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Peer Azmat Shah In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <67AF2816-182A-429F-B56F-0711C4497F29@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, <4EC0A709.40102@KingsMountain.com>, , , , <50DADDE6B33B1B47904E685AAFDC182443A109C874@yugi.mocana.local> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Anyone has information about electrical devices in Taipei X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:25:41 -0000 Yes, you want to head over to the aforementioned Guanghua Market Digital Plaza, but note that this is only ONE multi-storey building. There are however MANY nearby shops along Bade Road, it's all very obvious once you are there. Taxi is about TWD 160 from the venue. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Peer Azmat Shah wrote: > > Hello all, > > Anyone knows where to shop for electrical devices like Hair dryers, > hair straighteners etc. and electronic toys in Taipei nearby TICC. > > > ----------------- > with regards > > > PEER AZMAT SHAH Ph. D. scholar, Research Engineer CoReNet (Centre of > Research in Networks & Telecom)M. A. Jinnah University, Islamabad, > Pakistan.+92 321 582 2507 Motto: A success is not a success at all > unless it is succeeded by another success. > > Long Live PAKISTAN > > From jukka.manner@aalto.fi Mon Nov 14 00:12:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F83E11E824C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:12:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.74 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.74 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KYeyUOfHtqvF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx03.aalto.fi (mx03.aalto.fi [130.233.222.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A90711E80B5 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx03.aalto.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 48DB12852A; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:12:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from EXHUB02.org.aalto.fi (ex-hub02.org.aalto.fi [130.233.222.119]) by mx03.aalto.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A2E28577; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:12:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from EXMDB04.org.aalto.fi ([169.254.1.248]) by EXHUB02.org.aalto.fi ([130.233.222.119]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:11:51 +0200 From: Manner Jukka To: Maaz Rehan Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search Thread-Index: AQHMopwzBuy4gPFrtUe6U8kHf3dq+JWr416A Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:11:51 +0000 Message-ID: References: <7475_1321254505_4EC0BE69_7475_695_1_1321254482.12940.YahooMailNeo@web160720.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <7475_1321254505_4EC0BE69_7475_695_1_1321254482.12940.YahooMailNeo@web160720.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US, fi-FI Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.129.18.198] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:12:26 -0000 Hi, I'm not local but this web site had good information and we visited the= Guang Hwa today. Lots of electronics shops. http://pacejmiller.com/2010/01/23/shopping-for-electronics-and-toys-in-taip= ei/ Comparing the prices, I could find most items of interest (much) cheaper ba= ck home. Jukka On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Maaz Rehan wrote: > Hi All, >=20 > Can anybody, Local here, can guide where is the Market for Toys and Elect= ronics?=20 >=20 > I shall be thankful for this convenience. >=20 > Best Regards. =20 >=20 > Muhammad Maaz Rehan > Assistant Professor > Department of Computer Science > COMSATS Institute of Information Technology > Quaid Avenue, The Mall, WAH CANTT > http://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html=20 > Mobile: +92 333 997 4992 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From jonathan@vidyo.com Mon Nov 14 00:43:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2DA21F8E54 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:43:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.447 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.447 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.151, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pR7jSLjuLd97 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com (mxout.myoutlookonline.com [64.95.72.241]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B7F21F8E41 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A642416BB9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:43:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mail.lan Received: from HUB012.mail.lan (unknown [10.110.2.1]) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE5B416BF7 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:43:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from BE235.mail.lan ([10.110.32.235]) by HUB012.mail.lan ([10.110.17.12]) with mapi; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:43:21 -0500 From: Jonathan Lennox To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:43:22 -0500 Thread-Topic: Lost T-shirt bag Thread-Index: AcyiqRdZTnn5/sVVTIeCRMk6km/7hQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C3759687E4991243A1A0BD44EAC823034C439A355CBE235maillan_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [82attendees] Lost T-shirt bag X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:43:27 -0000 --_000_C3759687E4991243A1A0BD44EAC823034C439A355CBE235maillan_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I lost my host gift bag with the IETF T-shirt in it, size 2XL, either in AV= TCore or DCON. 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boundary="------------030000080506020502000905" Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Lost T-shirt bag X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:50:27 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030000080506020502000905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone tell me "someone find a bag and send to lost and found on 1F", would you go to there and check it. thanks. ? 2011?11?14? 16:43, Jonathan Lennox ??: > > I lost my host gift bag with the IETF T-shirt in it, size 2XL, either > in AVTCore or DCON. I was sitting near the front in both cases. > Anyone find an extra one? > > -- > > Jonathan Lennox > > jonathan@vidyo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees --------------030000080506020502000905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Someone tell me "someone find a bag and send to lost and found on 1F", would you go to there and check it. thanks.


於 2011年11月14日 16:43, Jonathan Lennox 提到:

I lost my host gift bag with the IETF T-shirt in it, size 2XL, either in AVTCore or DCON.  I was sitting near the front in both cases.  Anyone find an extra one?

 

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Best regards, Dirk From manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Nov 14 01:59:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282AD21F8434 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:56:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.070, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FVHB1o6x4vCe for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ihemail2.lucent.com (ihemail2.lucent.com [135.245.0.35]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56261F0C3C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:46:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from inbansmailrelay2.in.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-250-11-33.lucent.com [135.250.11.33]) by ihemail2.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id pAE9idAp018317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:44:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from INBANSXCHHUB02.in.alcatel-lucent.com (inbansxchhub02.in.alcatel-lucent.com [135.250.12.35]) by inbansmailrelay2.in.alcatel-lucent.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/GMO) with ESMTP id pAE9iRsh010841 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:14:38 +0530 Received: from INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.50]) by INBANSXCHHUB02.in.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.250.12.35]) with mapi; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:14:27 +0530 From: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" To: Geoff Mulligan , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:14:27 +0530 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted Thread-Index: AcyibdCzu7+iiwfRSEOQ1b6hNLWJEAAQ0xZg Message-ID: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222C97@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> <4EC07083.1030000@mulligan.com> In-Reply-To: <4EC07083.1030000@mulligan.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.35 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:59:10 -0000 http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g293913-d306447-r6043624-Grand_H= yatt_Taipei-Taipei.html The "Nice hotel, but haunted" review seems quite interesting. I am hoping t= hat the ghosts will get bored spooking people out of their wits by the time= I reach there tomorrow and that my stay would hopefully remain quite uneve= ntful. Cheers, Manav=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Mulligan > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:06 AM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted >=20 > There are a bunch of links that claim the Grand Hyatt is haunted. >=20 > Let us know if you see a ghost in your room, other than the=20 > ghost of working IPv6. >=20 > geoff >=20 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reportedly_haunted_locati > ons_in_the_world > http://luxpresso.com/photogallery-indulge/worlds-top-10-haunte d-hotels/8765/11 > http://www.chinastudygroup.org/travel-sites-on-the-worlds-top- 10-haunted-taipei-grand-hyatt-hotel-list.html > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > = From jonathan@vidyo.com Mon Nov 14 02:03:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7837C21F8CDE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:03:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.154 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.154 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.156, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_45=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nJLF449T1Oyw for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com (mxout.myoutlookonline.com [64.95.72.241]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3FC011E80E9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout.myoutlookonline.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB752416BB8; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:00:52 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mail.lan Received: from HUB016.mail.lan (unknown [10.110.2.1]) by mxout.myoutlookonline.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28110416D96; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:00:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from BE235.mail.lan ([10.110.32.235]) by HUB016.mail.lan ([10.110.17.16]) with mapi; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:00:51 -0500 From: Jonathan Lennox To: HaWay Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:00:49 -0500 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Lost T-shirt bag Thread-Index: AcyiqnTyCtOgSouaT7uBS9BdZkzs+gACb3Fg Message-ID: References: <4EC0D64F.2090200@twnic.net.tw> In-Reply-To: <4EC0D64F.2090200@twnic.net.tw> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C3759687E4991243A1A0BD44EAC823034C439A3564BE235maillan_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Lost T-shirt bag X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:03:48 -0000 --_000_C3759687E4991243A1A0BD44EAC823034C439A3564BE235maillan_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The only one at lost&found is a Large - did someone who got a Large acciden= tally pick up a 2XL bag? From: HaWay [mailto:haway@twnic.net.tw] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 4:50 PM To: Jonathan Lennox Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Lost T-shirt bag Someone tell me "someone find a bag and send to lost and found on 1F", woul= d you go to there and check it. thanks. =1B$B1w=1B(B 2011=1B$BG/=1B(B11=1B$B7n=1B(B14=1B$BF|=1B(B 16:43, Jonathan L= ennox =1B$BDsE~=1B(B: I lost my host gift bag with the IETF T-shirt in it, size 2XL, either in AV= TCore or DCON. I was sitting near the front in both cases. Anyone find an= extra one? -- Jonathan Lennox jonathan@vidyo.com _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees --_000_C3759687E4991243A1A0BD44EAC823034C439A3564BE235maillan_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= The only one at lost&found is a Large = 211; did someone who got a Large accidentally pick up a 2XL bag?=

 

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Someone tell me "someone find a bag and send to lost = and found on 1F", would you go to there and check it. thanks.

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I lost my host gift bag with the = IETF T-shirt in it, size 2XL, either in AVTCore or DCON.  I was sittin= g near the front in both cases.  Anyone find an extra one?<= /p>

 

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= --_000_C3759687E4991243A1A0BD44EAC823034C439A3564BE235maillan_-- From tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Mon Nov 14 02:12:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C689F21F8EED for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:12:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sxkKjZoA0RqX for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E90F11E810E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (localhost.ecs.soton.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAEAArtD001881 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:10:53 GMT X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk pAEAArtD001881 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=ecs.soton.ac.uk; s=200903; t=1321265453; bh=ZsIlUd+c4qi45FqX3X0OYAq3HQY=; h=Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:References:To; b=ybCDa9F5aFjFQAbDdjliG4Ch7SGqc3k0xzGqzal738NyhLRbplmLFAQcBXaEXpqWH +y3WTMQHrnnOffeYzj3kVaPT0fOtC33bbKFeQd+SHM03xfJ8DJYRjKA38jDhMpt8mn LVR6i31vt/qoi9bGRa+1v1vAyTLtUebNsKny4JAU= Received: from gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk ([2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:401]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:68da]) envelope-from with ESMTP id nADAAr0543752941SF ret-id none; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:10:53 +0000 Received: from dhcp-1678.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-1678.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.22.120]) (authenticated bits=0) by gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAEAALcI028354 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:10:26 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Tim Chown In-Reply-To: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222C97@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:10:19 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> <4EC07083.1030000@mulligan.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222C97@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> To: attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-smtpf-Report: sid=nADAAr054375294100; tid=nADAAr0543752941SF; client=relay,forged,no_ptr,ipv6; mail=; rcpt=; nrcpt=1:0; fails=0 X-ECS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ECS-MailScanner-ID: pAEAArtD001881 X-ECS-MailScanner-From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Subject: Re: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:12:28 -0000 On 14 Nov 2011, at 09:44, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: > = http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g293913-d306447-r6043624-Grand_= Hyatt_Taipei-Taipei.html >=20 > The "Nice hotel, but haunted" review seems quite interesting. I am = hoping that the ghosts will get bored spooking people out of their wits = by the time I reach there tomorrow and that my stay would hopefully = remain quite uneventful. It's just the ghost of IPv4...= From rkitindi@gmail.com Mon Nov 14 02:17:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E778821F8ECD for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:17:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UuwQrSP13y7h for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f44.google.com (mail-qw0-f44.google.com [209.85.216.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EE921F8E7D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by qadb40 with SMTP id b40so4207430qad.10 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:17:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wDmyy0MKdtkUQEwYCppNxArQ44bx0UhYmOEpSlvKq5k=; b=w5ldVCyaqkITH38cSYIh0Dd8O5Z+ZZLRWMqrcecp28+dctqe9gr3rnAegfItEOZfqT mdqKigMFbCOof2G8g4rSEMm5OIzL0PZZm3x40ZGu8a9a1E204Gq3Xk+lJqkBM76u3sou Mhu6wgI/mWFvUdmFwVXuA4P34RwWYuoyDZOVg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.37.207 with SMTP id y15mr2921510qcd.151.1321265872552; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.149.1 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.149.1 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:17:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> <4EC07083.1030000@mulligan.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222C97@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:17:52 +0300 Message-ID: From: rajabu kitindi To: Tim Chown Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016369fa10afcc1ea04b1af2e8a Cc: attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:17:54 -0000 --0016369fa10afcc1ea04b1af2e8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks for clarification. I was going to check out today. On 14 Nov 2011 18:15, "Tim Chown" wrote: > > On 14 Nov 2011, at 09:44, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: > > > > http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g293913-d306447-r6043624-Grand_Hyatt_Taipei-Taipei.html > > > > The "Nice hotel, but haunted" review seems quite interesting. I am > hoping that the ghosts will get bored spooking people out of their wits by > the time I reach there tomorrow and that my stay would hopefully remain > quite uneventful. > > It's just the ghost of IPv4... > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > --0016369fa10afcc1ea04b1af2e8a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks for clarification. I was going to check out today.

On 14 Nov 2011 18:15, "Tim Chown" <= tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

On 14 Nov 2011, at 09:44, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote:

> http://www.tripa= dvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g293913-d306447-r6043624-Grand_Hyatt_Taipei-Taip= ei.html
>
> The "Nice hotel, but haunted" review seems quite interesting= . I am hoping that the ghosts will get bored spooking people out of their w= its by the time I reach there tomorrow and that my stay would hopefully rem= ain quite uneventful.

It's just the ghost of IPv4...
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--0016369fa10afcc1ea04b1af2e8a-- From johnl@iecc.com Mon Nov 14 02:21:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82EAE21F8F10 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:21:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.573 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.573 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.027, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OnekFtlmF8Jz for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D228721F8F0E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 53609 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2011 10:21:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=d167.4ec0eb9c.k1111; bh=ECxvvIWn+yhwMBKexLSBc671+N2PHpGwdjZ5RyBXGwE=; b=jwLN6o1IZdkKmNtu85w5meCBAae7MNvJ8Cu4ySa0Bi58IPv+bm/FV7yV5U0hQbxrpO8Dyfc99J/bNb8XT6aHcSAnmMXhQQSuDIQBFtrwiPHlSagwdzND9QDKglByHJSLg3JthVnLmYpgNQkm/xLpWIvQ3J+SfKkDC50eG7iFfUQ= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 14 Nov 2011 10:20:53 -0000 Date: 14 Nov 2011 18:21:14 +0800 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Tim Chown" In-Reply-To: References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> <4EC07083.1030000@mulligan.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222C97@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:21:17 -0000 > It's just the ghost of IPv4... Naah. If that ghost were around, it would be haunting me: http://jl.ly/Internet/nomorev4.html R's, John From vinayakh@gmail.com Mon Nov 14 02:23:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0B521F8CE3 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:23:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.429 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.429 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.881, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_45=0.6, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m6+vRcJmnPp8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vx0-f172.google.com (mail-vx0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E1F21F8CB5 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:23:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by vcbfk1 with SMTP id fk1so5765548vcb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:23:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2+I6/++WraLvldhu434Szym3cDMs9cucqCQDLEzvJgI=; b=OQWzcZTE1219Be1r2SK8xqxXf1JijZrq9pqf5jfF6ZkAztx3uril8FnwDR4xgSHiq+ 47t8dIrLddkRaF5V9nZt6HOHT3IdcGjlw7cc4+gKJsB7FX+TjQGXM8Auf7wixT/p/CCl RpO03gkdlIof/36aIfsEYHljM7PDpHmFsIMjk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.91.162 with SMTP id cf2mr34055191vdb.124.1321266193617; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:23:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.156.226 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:23:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EC0D64F.2090200@twnic.net.tw> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:53:13 +0530 Message-ID: From: Vinayak Hegde To: Jonathan Lennox Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: HaWay , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Lost T-shirt bag X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 10:23:15 -0000 Stating the obvious here - All other things kept the same, you can just change it at the registration desk (assuming that they have 2XL size left). -- Vinayak 2011/11/14 Jonathan Lennox : > The only one at lost&found is a Large - did someone who got a Large > accidentally pick up a 2XL bag? > > > > From: HaWay [mailto:haway@twnic.net.tw] > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 4:50 PM > To: Jonathan Lennox > Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Lost T-shirt bag > > > > Someone tell me "someone find a bag and send to lost and found on 1F", wo= uld > you go to there and check it. thanks. > > > =A9=F3 2011=A6~11=A4=EB14=A4=E9 16:43, Jonathan Lennox =B4=A3=A8=EC: > > I lost my host gift bag with the IETF T-shirt in it, size 2XL, either in > AVTCore or DCON. I was sitting near the front in both cases. Anyone fin= d > an extra one? > > > > -- > > Jonathan Lennox > > jonathan@vidyo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > 82attendees mailing list > > 82attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > From Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com Mon Nov 14 03:46:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0840311E814A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:46:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l0mVkHUfolke for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:46:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-da01.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC80E11E8148 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 03:46:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (vaebh106.europe.nokia.com [10.160.244.32]) by mgw-da01.nokia.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pAEBjux2029048; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:46:16 +0200 Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.6]) by vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:46:07 +0200 Received: from 008-AM1MMR1-002.mgdnok.nokia.com (65.54.30.57) by NOK-am1MHUB-02.mgdnok.nokia.com (65.54.30.6) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.255.0; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:46:06 +0100 Received: from 008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com ([169.254.6.167]) by 008-AM1MMR1-002.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.57]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.003; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:46:06 +0100 From: To: , Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search Thread-Index: AQHMopwzAfcS21/lWE+XMe5D/kU8UZWr416AgABbkDA= Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:46:05 +0000 Message-ID: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A751@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: <7475_1321254505_4EC0BE69_7475_695_1_1321254482.12940.YahooMailNeo@web160720.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.129.66.110] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2011 11:46:07.0391 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF1652F0:01CCA2C2] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:46:20 -0000 There is a 'toys101' shop 10 min walk from the Shangri-la. It's not a marke= t, it's a regular shop with toys for kids ~1-6yo. Relatively cheap.=20 The night market near the Hyatt has a few toy shops too, but toys101 looke= d more attractive than the ones in the night market. -gabor -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of ext Manner Jukka Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:12 AM To: Maaz Rehan Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search Hi, I'm not local but this web site had good information and we visited the= Guang Hwa today. Lots of electronics shops. http://pacejmiller.com/2010/01/23/shopping-for-electronics-and-toys-in-taip= ei/ Comparing the prices, I could find most items of interest (much) cheaper ba= ck home. Jukka On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Maaz Rehan wrote: > Hi All, >=20 > Can anybody, Local here, can guide where is the Market for Toys and Elect= ronics?=20 >=20 > I shall be thankful for this convenience. >=20 > Best Regards. =20 >=20 > Muhammad Maaz Rehan > Assistant Professor > Department of Computer Science > COMSATS Institute of Information Technology Quaid Avenue, The Mall,=20 > WAH CANTT http://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html > Mobile: +92 333 997 4992 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From smb@cs.columbia.edu Mon Nov 14 05:20:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC2D11E829B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:20:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cCFg6x7Upv9s for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from paneer.cc.columbia.edu (paneer.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04AE11E82C4 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:20:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from v230.vpn.iad.rg.net (v230.vpn.iad.rg.net [198.180.150.230]) (user=smb2132 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by paneer.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAEDKGhC011109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:20:19 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Steven Bellovin In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:20:16 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <533CA8D3-63D3-4576-A689-1426CB514C6E@cs.columbia.edu> References: To: "John R. Levine" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.4 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Where to buy an umbrella? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:20:27 -0000 On Nov 13, 2011, at 2:53 AM, John R. Levine wrote: > This is probably a dumb question, but has anyone seen a place near the = Hyatt or TICC to buy an umbrella? As far as I can tell, everyone in = Taiwan is issued one at birth, so perhaps there is no need to offer them = at retail. >=20 At one Metro station (I fear I don't remember which), there was a vendor = outside selling umbrellas. Reminded me of New York... --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb From smb@cs.columbia.edu Mon Nov 14 05:23:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3053E11E81F7 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:23:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id suh45vRAqsYX for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from tarap.cc.columbia.edu (tarap.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8570521F8E42 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 05:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from v230.vpn.iad.rg.net (v230.vpn.iad.rg.net [198.180.150.230]) (user=smb2132 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by tarap.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAEDMstn023967 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:22:57 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Steven Bellovin In-Reply-To: <6A0F1DDA-45A4-413B-8489-BCFA02D1CEE7@checkpoint.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:22:53 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> <6A0F1DDA-45A4-413B-8489-BCFA02D1CEE7@checkpoint.com> To: Yoav Nir X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.7 Cc: Marc Petit-Huguenin , Serge Lachapelle , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:23:13 -0000 On Nov 13, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: >=20 > I think a trip there would require a bus/subway ride. Can anyone share = any positive/negative experiences with the subway? >=20 Fast, efficient, and clean -- highly recommended.=20 --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb From sakimura@gmail.com Mon Nov 14 07:28:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F8611E80FC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:28:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.321 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.321 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.278, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QOz21gB2Svmh for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F14911E80CF for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by faap16 with SMTP id p16so1082465faa.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:28:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=a/s1zVGzDlg7ANghbDr+dJNPmY3CSzjf1kQROrAs4ow=; b=pNh/lHDNMiNP3oSRyNsUI+6Wco5EzbhE0lM8uewD2pFBwVW7RWc8FF1rsAoC4VX+22 VMYd1/pi+2Hz0gDWlF9qkZe/aBJMMIWHdJhGicGdojEcBdKQKRBvdXvyWiJssCHYyiv4 Ve8fdk36KV7SD9dhBb3Bbn9Wof0HHDO8AryJk= Received: by 10.152.104.6 with SMTP id ga6mr14280238lab.45.1321284537353; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:28:57 -0800 (PST) References: <00e501cca22c$e227ed70$a677c850$@edu.tw> <96FFD33E-A665-42E6-9162-BE069C134BF0@cs.ucla.edu> <004e01cca272$3c6a1b60$b53e5220$@edu.tw> <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650B0E3254@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at> From: Nat Sakimura In-Reply-To: <8BC845943058D844ABFC73D2220D46650B0E3254@nics-mail.sbg.nic.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:28:56 +0800 Message-ID: <3376880687432793961@unknownmsgid> To: Alexander Mayrhofer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: =?UTF-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Night Market nearby X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:28:59 -0000 So I went to Shi Da Rd. =E5=B8=AB=E5=A4=A7=E8=B7=AF=E5=A4=9C=E5=B8=82 Night= Market. It was fun. Being a student area, it felt a little like Harajuku in Tokyo as well. It is a short taxi ride from the venue, I think. A Taiwanese friend took me there. Some photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/_nat/sets/72157628001464765/ Cheers, Nat On 2011/11/14, at 10:32, Alexander Mayrhofer w= rote: >> do not want to take a long trip to the crowded Shilin Night Market, just >> walking toward south along the Keelung Rd. for 10-15 mins. After crossin= g >> the KungFu S. Rd., you will see the entrance of the Linjiang Street Nigh= t >> Market is at your right hand side. Enjoy it. >>> PS. Don=E2=80=99t eat too much before going to the night market or you = will >> regret that you have to give up many delicious snacks. Bon app=C3=A9tit! > > I was there last night with Peter, and i can agree that it's a nice night= market, probably on the smaller end. Don't let yourself put off by the sme= ll at the very beginning of the market, it get's better further down ;). Al= so, i couldn't identify some of the snacks there, which didn't stop me from= trying some of them - recommended! > > Alex > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Mon Nov 14 07:32:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4541411E81BE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:32:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.673 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.673 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.437, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uSO7EiZLthPn for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89FBA11E81A3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pAEFWp9t071735 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:32:51 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?big5?B?pP2n1Kao?= To: "'attendees'" <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <67AF2816-182A-429F-B56F-0711C4497F29@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC0A709.40102@KingsMountain.com> , <50DADDE6B33B1B47904E685AAFDC182443A109C874@yugi.mocana.local> In-Reply-To: <50DADDE6B33B1B47904E685AAFDC182443A109C874@yugi.mocana.local> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:32:07 +0800 Message-ID: <001f01cca2e2$91e2f2e0$b5a8d8a0$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: zh-tw Thread-Index: AcyikH8mVBWtJGFxSNWp0rLyK7MyQAAAEbu3ABQ/gzA= X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pAEFWp9t071735 Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:32:50 -0000 These is a bar named "Dazzling Champagne dinner bar" at the 1st floor of Neo 19. Good food (mixed style of Italian, French, and Thai), Moet Champagne, cocktail, and wine. ________________________________________ From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mary Barnes [mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:44 AM To: Tim Chown Cc: attendees Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? There is a Gordon Biersch Restaurant/Brewery over in the shopping area. You wander across to the Taipei 101 shopping center (using the pedestrian overpass) and then follow that through the mall towards the movies (heading left as you enter the mall. Then hang left at the movies and cross the street. Once over, you hang right and then left and it's at the corner towards the end of the first segment. On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Tim Chown wrote: > There is one called The Tavern close to the hotel, but that turned out to sell pretty bad beer, at high tourist prices. Their spicy cabbage and bacon was very interesting. > > There seems to be a brew pub within 5 mins walk which may be rather better. > > tim > > On 14 Nov 2011, at 05:28, =JeffH wrote: > >> anybody found a decent pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ? >> >> thanks, >> >> =JeffH >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Mon Nov 14 07:47:35 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B01111E80BA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:47:35 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.947 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.947 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.890, BAYES_50=0.001, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vi8XAN6XiBTi for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:47:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E5211E8149 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pAEFlawI074163 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:47:36 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?big5?B?pP2n1Kao?= To: "'attendees'" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:46:49 +0800 Message-ID: <002001cca2e4$9f56a280$de03e780$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01CCA327.AD79E280" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: zh-tw Thread-Index: Acyi5J7wk6iEf0/xSJOFFPLzLTM2yQ== X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pAEFlawI074163 Subject: [82attendees] Dessert Lover X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:47:35 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CCA327.AD79E280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those dessert lovers, one of my friend just told me the shop of PIERRE MARCOLINI, BRUSSLE is just opened at 2F of the A4 building of Shin Kong Mitsukoshi department store. 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For those = dessert lovers, one of my friend just told me the shop of PIERRE = MARCOLINI, BRUSSLE is just opened at 2F of the A4 building of Shin Kong = Mitsukoshi department store.

Marcolini was named Premier Belgian = Ice Cream Confectioner in 1991, World Pastry Champion in 1995 and = European Pastry Champion in 2000.

Also provide light foods. =

 

FYI.

------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CCA327.AD79E280-- From johnl@iecc.com Mon Nov 14 07:51:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E725A11E8198 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:51:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lQWX-gMOn0fe for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F0C11E8149 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 07:51:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21781 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2011 15:51:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=5514.4ec13918.k1111; bh=9oSQAz3qEKB2M09yuVAcdb1jgGX8OIH7nDDjUBOTlx8=; b=tVkqGGGR0u5zqHGRLCwj2v4XNwgVS2bbkggQhuoAUyMjBMUJ5SxKXCNvdAy/QQz3qwbtqPz5TM5DT0JUSeD9zxs3owHsw+SIlJaRMPC2kvpsKpfAOi4irZitJhIBazAUfUoGwRSb5h1X0xDt/kALwhrkSSX5bL9SekhaBl3HxAc= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 14 Nov 2011 15:51:29 -0000 Date: 14 Nov 2011 23:51:46 +0800 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Steven Bellovin" In-Reply-To: References: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> <6A0F1DDA-45A4-413B-8489-BCFA02D1CEE7@checkpoint.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 15:51:59 -0000 >> I think a trip there would require a bus/subway ride. Can anyone share any positive/negative experiences with the subway? >> > Fast, efficient, and clean -- highly recommended. I took it today, and it's fine. You can buy individual tickets, but if you plan to use it at all regularly, get an Easycard from a machine at the station or from a 7-11. The card costs NT$100 plus whatever credit it has, between $100 and $400 depending on where you get it. Cards are refillable, and the web site says it's fully refundable if you return it at a Metro station in good condition. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Mon Nov 14 08:04:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0139C21F8D8A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:04:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PRV6dhjybOGJ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:03:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E61B21F8B00 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:03:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAEG3sZn020147 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:03:54 GMT X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk pAEG3sZn020147 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=ecs.soton.ac.uk; s=200903; t=1321286635; bh=ie8bybv+oeArdUS9ZjVq/lwEAPw=; h=From:Subject:Date:To:Mime-Version:References; b=o5Dk4jkiymlGp063LGXNPA0XpqP6jy/JvYL3dTAMsfrsQr0To/ZVyUtvv75WKJ9Pv l0IdKjqpPohNhAWmMfftR5342oyUUs3N2uu2tomI7tFaarG3JaYurlIkBqAKcroShC gWt+ae3+/+4f/+L/B8K5VI4eY7SqT7/I/kYKvJMU= Received: from gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102::25d]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) envelope-from with ESMTP id nADG3s05437568073s ret-id none; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:03:54 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::64:11a6:9bdf:2a21:3deb] ([IPv6:2001:df8:0:64:11a6:9bdf:2a21:3deb]) (authenticated bits=0) by gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAEG3MC6028152 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:03:29 GMT From: Tim Chown Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_2D1F0946-584F-49D4-BF0D-30E653BFE67B" Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:03:20 +0000 Message-ID: To: attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-smtpf-Report: sid=nADG3s054375680700; tid=nADG3s05437568073s; client=relay,ipv6; mail=; rcpt=; nrcpt=1:0; fails=0 References: <65748E27-FDA1-492F-874E-9047F262BB65@ecs.soton.ac.uk> X-ECS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ECS-MailScanner-ID: pAEG3sZn020147 X-ECS-MailScanner-From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Subject: [82attendees] Comments on two brewpubs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:04:00 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_2D1F0946-584F-49D4-BF0D-30E653BFE67B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, Tonight some of us explored two brewpubs. =E9=87=91=E8=89=B2=E4=B8=89=E9=BA=A5 Le Ble d'Or 110 Taiwan Taipei City Sinyi District=E6=9D=BE=E9=AB=98 http://www.lebledor.com.tw/index.php Lies within 10-15 mins walk from the Hyatt, just past city hall and on = the first floor under a shopping centre. Quite dark, lots of room with = probably a couple of hundred seats. The waiters are dressed in German = beer festival style. A good range of food, and four main local brew = beers: a dunkel, a lager beer, a honey beer and a seasonal beer. The = honey and seasonal beers were pretty good. Ask for tasters and you'll = get some samples. Some pics: http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/ArgyleGuy/Travel/IMG_2695.jpg http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/ArgyleGuy/Travel/IMG_2700.jpg Jolly brewery and restaurant 29B Ching-Cheng St., Sung-Shan District =E5=8F=B0=E5=8C=97=E5=B8=82=E6=9D=BE=E5=B1=B1=E5=8D=80=E6=85=B6=E5=9F=8E=E8= =A1=9729=E8=99=9FB=E5=AE=A4 http://www.jollys.tw/ Some 20 minutes by taxi, fare is 150-200TWD. A smaller place, well lit = and modern, and quite full when we arrived, but still has 20 or so = tables. Good varied local food menu (the yellow beef curry was good) and = six local beers: a pale ale, a pilsner, a stout, a scotch ale, a weizen = and the special brew. The stout was more of a dark lager and perhaps = not so good, the rest were pretty decent, especially the smooth and not = too hoppy pale ale, the malty scotch ale and the light and refreshing = pineapple white beer special brew. You can buy a strip of 6 x 110ml = taster glasses for 290TWD. http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/ArgyleGuy/Travel/IMG_2678.jpg http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/ArgyleGuy/Travel/IMG_2689.jpg Both worth a visit if you like some interesting beer. Tim =20= --Apple-Mail=_2D1F0946-584F-49D4-BF0D-30E653BFE67B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 http://www.lebledor.com.tw/i= ndex.php
Lies within 10-15 mins walk from the Hyatt, just = past city hall and on the first floor under a shopping centre. Quite = dark, lots of room with probably a couple of hundred seats. The waiters = are dressed in German beer festival style.  A good range of food, = and four main local brew beers: a dunkel, a lager beer, a honey beer and = a seasonal beer.  The honey and seasonal beers were pretty good. =  Ask for tasters and you'll get some samples.  Some = pics:

Jolly brewery and restaurant
29B = Ching-Cheng St., Sung-Shan = District
=E5=8F=B0=E5=8C=97=E5=B8=82=E6=9D=BE=E5=B1=B1=E5=8D=80=E6=85=B6= =E5=9F=8E=E8=A1=9729=E8=99=9FB=E5=AE=A4
http://www.jollys.tw/
Some = 20 minutes by taxi, fare is 150-200TWD.  A smaller place, well lit = and modern, and quite full when we arrived, but still has 20 or so = tables. Good varied local food menu (the yellow beef curry was good) and = six local beers: a pale ale, a pilsner, a stout, a scotch ale, a weizen = and the special brew.  The stout was more of a dark lager and = perhaps not so good, the rest were pretty decent, especially the smooth = and not too hoppy pale ale, the malty scotch ale and the light and = refreshing pineapple white beer special brew.  You can buy a strip = of 6 x 110ml taster glasses for 290TWD.

Both worth a visit if you like some = interesting = beer.

Tim

  = --Apple-Mail=_2D1F0946-584F-49D4-BF0D-30E653BFE67B-- From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Mon Nov 14 08:10:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29731F0C8B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:10:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.696 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.696 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.460, BAYES_00=-2.599, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7hldLX5RVz6h for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D391F0C89 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pAEGALlK079146 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:10:21 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?big5?B?pP2n1Kao?= To: "'attendees'" <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <4EBFCDA5.5060707@acm.org> <6A0F1DDA-45A4-413B-8489-BCFA02D1CEE7@checkpoint.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:09:29 +0800 Message-ID: <002e01cca2e7$c9b37c30$5d1a7490$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: zh-tw Thread-Index: Acyi5WFEytPWWXvCQROtunXKynRTgAAAcZ4Q X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pAEGALlK079146 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:10:42 -0000 The card sells in MRT stations is the EasyCard. The NT$100 is refundable after a period of use. The other one sells in 7-11 is iCash with EasyCard function. The NT$100 is not refundable. Both cards can refill in 7-11 and MRT stations. -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John R. Levine Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 11:52 PM To: Steven Bellovin Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Guanghua Market Digital Plaza >> I think a trip there would require a bus/subway ride. Can anyone share any positive/negative experiences with the subway? >> > Fast, efficient, and clean -- highly recommended. I took it today, and it's fine. You can buy individual tickets, but if you plan to use it at all regularly, get an Easycard from a machine at the station or from a 7-11. The card costs NT$100 plus whatever credit it has, between $100 and $400 depending on where you get it. Cards are refillable, and the web site says it's fully refundable if you return it at a Metro station in good condition. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Mon Nov 14 08:42:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13881F0C78 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:42:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.072 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.072 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TvfSB5-pAoE8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB941F0C86 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pAEGfxG2092141 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:41:59 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?UTF-8?B?546L5b+N5oiQ?= To: "'attendees'" <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <65748E27-FDA1-492F-874E-9047F262BB65@ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:40:59 +0800 Message-ID: <003801cca2ec$308e1060$91aa3120$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-Language: zh-tw Thread-Index: Acyi5xMwLkYWiay1TgGEd3UOF3/sdwAA9k6Q X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pAEGfxG2092141 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Comments on two brewpubs X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:42:05 -0000 Le Ble d'Or is at the B1F of the Eslite Book Store. Just walk toward the = MRT station and turn right at the SongKao Rd. The book store is at your = left hand side before the department store. Open from 12:00-24:00. And the happy hour is 15:00-17:00. Buy 1 and get = another for free in this period. From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Tim Chown Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:03 AM To: attendees Subject: [82attendees] Comments on two brewpubs Hi, Tonight some of us explored two brewpubs. =E9=87=91=E8=89=B2=E4=B8=89=E9=BA=A5 Le Ble d'Or 110 Taiwan Taipei City Sinyi District=E6=9D=BE=E9=AB=98 http://www.lebledor.com.tw/index.php Lies within 10-15 mins walk from the Hyatt, just past city hall and on = the first floor under a shopping centre. Quite dark, lots of room with = probably a couple of hundred seats. The waiters are dressed in German = beer festival style. A good range of food, and four main local brew = beers: a dunkel, a lager beer, a honey beer and a seasonal beer. The = honey and seasonal beers were pretty good. Ask for tasters and you'll = get some samples. Some pics: http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/ArgyleGuy/Travel/IMG_2695.jpg http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/ArgyleGuy/Travel/IMG_2700.jpg Jolly brewery and restaurant 29B Ching-Cheng St., Sung-Shan District =E5=8F=B0=E5=8C=97=E5=B8=82=E6=9D=BE=E5=B1=B1=E5=8D=80=E6=85=B6=E5=9F=8E=E8= =A1=9729=E8=99=9FB=E5=AE=A4 http://www.jollys.tw/ Some 20 minutes by taxi, fare is 150-200TWD. A smaller place, well lit = and modern, and quite full when we arrived, but still has 20 or so = tables. Good varied local food menu (the yellow beef curry was good) and = six local beers: a pale ale, a pilsner, a stout, a scotch ale, a weizen = and the special brew. The stout was more of a dark lager and perhaps = not so good, the rest were pretty decent, especially the smooth and not = too hoppy pale ale, the malty scotch ale and the light and refreshing = pineapple white beer special brew. You can buy a strip of 6 x 110ml = taster glasses for 290TWD. http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/ArgyleGuy/Travel/IMG_2678.jpg http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae191/ArgyleGuy/Travel/IMG_2689.jpg Both worth a visit if you like some interesting beer. 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W= e have gone there and purchased Toys from the 4th Floor.=0A=0AROUTE:=0A1. T= ake 'Bus No. Blue 5 from near Taipei 101' or Bus No. 537/669/270/281/263/26= 3/266 nearby Hyatt. =0A=0A2. Go to Taipei City Hall. =0A=0A3. Take MRT and = drop at Station #5. =0A=0A4. Go out of the station from Exit #1. =0A=0A5. W= hen you are Outside, take U turn. At the intersection, take LEFT turn. On t= he left side after there will be a While/Gray Big Plaza. =0A=0A6. That is t= he Guanghua Digital Plaza.=0A=0A=0AIt is full of IT related Shops. Some Goo= d Toys can be found at the 4th Floor.=0A=0AThe woman over there is strict, = show her the 'Meet Taiwan Card' given at the T-Shirt Desk. You can get arou= nd 10% discount.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0ABest Regards.=C2=A0 =0A=0AMuhammad Maaz Reha= n=0AAssistant Professor=0ADepartment of Computer Science=0ACOMSATS Institut= e of Information Technology=0AQuaid Avenue, The Mall, WAH CANTT=0Ahttp://ww= w.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html=0AMobile: +92 333 997 4992=0A=0A= =0A----- Original Message -----=0AFrom: "liuhongyfw@chinamobile.com" =0ATo: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com=0ACc: 82attendees@ietf.o= rg; jukka.manner@aalto.fi; maazrehan@yahoo.com=0ASent: Tuesday, November 15= , 2011 12:10 AM=0ASubject: Re: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Se= arch=0A=0A=C2=A0 =0Aunfortunately it is not marked in google map=C2=A0 =0A= =0A=0A=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=E6=82=A8=E5=9C=A8=E6=9D=A5=E4=BF=A1=E4=B8=AD= =E5=86=99=E5=88=B0=EF=BC=9A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0AThere is a 'toys101' sho= p 10 min walk from the Shangri-la. It's not a market, it's a regular shop w= ith toys for kids ~1-6yo. Relatively cheap.=0AThe night market near the Hya= tt has a few=C2=A0 toy shops too, but toys101 looked more attractive than t= he ones in the night market.=0A-gabor=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFro= m: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Be= half Of ext Manner Jukka=0ASent: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:12 AM=0ATo: M= aaz Rehan=0ACc: 82attendees@ietf.org=0ASubject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Elec= tronics Market Search=0A=0AHi, I'm not local but this web site had good inf= ormation and we visited the Guang Hwa today. Lots of electronics shops.=0A= =0Ahttp://pacejmiller.com/2010/01/23/shopping-for-electronics-and-toys-in-t= aipei/=0A=0AComparing the prices, I could find most items of interest (much= ) cheaper back home.=0A=0AJukka=0A=0AOn Nov 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Maaz Reha= n wrote:=0A=0A> Hi All,=0A>=0A> Can anybody, Local here, can guide where is= the Market for Toys and Electronics?=0A>=0A> I shall be thankful for this = convenience.=0A>=0A> Best Regards.=0A>=0A> Muhammad Maaz Rehan=0A> Assistan= t Professor=0A> Department of Computer Science=0A> COMSATS Institute of Inf= ormation Technology Quaid Avenue, The Mall,=0A> WAH CANTT http://www.ciitwa= h.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html=0A> Mobile: +92 333 997 4992=0A> _________= ______________________________________=0A> 82attendees mailing list=0A> 82a= ttendees@ietf.org=0A> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees=0A= =0A_______________________________________________=0A82attendees mailing li= st=0A82attendees@ietf.org=0Ahttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attende= es=0A_______________________________________________=0A82attendees mailing = list=0A82attendees@ietf.org=0Ahttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82atten= dees=0A=0A=0ABest regards,=0AHong LIU=0A3GPP Lead=0AResearch Institute, Chi= na Mobile=0A************************************************=0ATel=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 : +86 10 66006688-3117=0AFax=C2=A0 =C2=A0 : +86 10 63600340=0AMobile= : +86 13501093376=0AE-mail : liuhongyfw@chinamobile.com=0AAddress: 53A,Xib= ianmennei Ave.,Xuanwu District,=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Beijing,1000= 53 China=0A************************************************ --1631949257-755621144-1321293502=:38587 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dear Concerned,=

Thanks for pointing us = to Guanghua Digital Plaza. We have gone there and purchased Toys from the 4= th Floor.

ROUTE:<= /div>
1. Take 'Bus No. Blue 5 from near Taipei 101' or Bus No. 537/669/270/281/263/263/266 nearby Hyatt.
2. Go to Taipei City Hall.
3= . Take MRT and drop at Station #5.
4. Go out of= the station from Exit #1.
5. When you are Outs= ide, take U turn. At the intersection, take LEFT turn. On the left side aft= er there will be a While/Gray Big Plaza.
6. Tha= t is the Guanghua Digital Plaza.

It is full of IT r= elated Shops. Some Good Toys can be found at the 4th Floor.

The woman over there is strict, show he= r the 'Meet Taiwan Card' given at the T-Shirt Desk. You can get around 10% = discount.
 
= Best Regards. 

Muhammad Maaz Rehan
Assistant Professor
Department of Computer Science
COMSATS = Institute of Information Technology
Quaid Avenue, The Mall, WAH CANTThttp://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html
Mobile: +92 333 997 4992

----- Original Message -= ----
From: "liuhongyfw@chinamobile.com" <liuhongyfw@chinamobile.com>
To: Gab= or.Bajko@nokia.com
Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org; jukka.manner@aalto.fi; maaz= rehan@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:10 AM
Subject: Re= : Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search

 
unfor= tunately it is not marked in google map 



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There is a 'toys101' shop 10 min walk from t= he Shangri-la. It's not a market, it's a regular shop with toys for kids ~1= -6yo. Relatively cheap.
The night market near the Hyatt has a few  = toy shops too, but toys101 looked more attractive than the ones in the nigh= t market.
-gabor

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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:12= AM
To: Maaz Rehan
Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: = [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search

Hi, I'm not local but t= his web site had good information and we visited the Guang Hwa today. Lots = of electronics shops.

http://pacej= miller.com/2010/01/23/shopping-for-electronics-and-toys-in-taipei/
<= br>Comparing the prices, I could find most items of interest (much) cheaper= back home.

Jukka

On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Maaz Rehan wro= te:

> Hi All,
>
> Can anybody, Local here, can guide = where is the Market for Toys and Electronics?
>
> I shall be thankful for this convenience.
>
> Best Regards.
>
&g= t; Muhammad Maaz Rehan
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Co= mputer Science
> COMSATS Institute of Information Technology Quaid Av= enue, The Mall,
> WAH CANTT http://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/depar= tment/CS.html
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It's not a market, i= t's a regular shop with toys for kids ~1-6yo. Relatively cheap. =0AThe nigh= t market near the Hyatt has a few=A0 toy shops too, but toys101 looked more= attractive than the ones in the night market.=0A-gabor=0A=0A-----Original = Message-----=0AFrom: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounc= es@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Manner Jukka=0ASent: Monday, November 14, 201= 1 12:12 AM=0ATo: Maaz Rehan=0ACc: 82attendees@ietf.org=0ASubject: Re: [82at= tendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search=0A=0AHi, I'm not local but this web= site had good information and we visited the Guang Hwa today. Lots of elec= tronics shops.=0A=0Ahttp://pacejmiller.com/2010/01/23/shopping-for-electron= ics-and-toys-in-taipei/=0A=0AComparing the prices, I could find most items = of interest (much) cheaper back home.=0A=0AJukka=0A=0AOn Nov 14, 2011, at 3= :08 PM, Maaz Rehan wrote:=0A=0A> Hi All,=0A> =0A> Can anybody, Local here, = can guide where is the Market for Toys and Electronics? =0A> =0A> I shall b= e thankful for this convenience.=0A> =0A> Best Regards.=A0 =0A> =0A> Muhamm= ad Maaz Rehan=0A> Assistant Professor=0A> Department of Computer Science=0A= > COMSATS Institute of Information Technology Quaid Avenue, The Mall, =0A> = WAH CANTT http://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html=0A> Mobile: +92= 333 997 4992=0A> _______________________________________________=0A> 82att= endees mailing list=0A> 82attendees@ietf.org=0A> https://www.ietf.org/mailm= an/listinfo/82attendees=0A=0A______________________________________________= _=0A82attendees mailing list=0A82attendees@ietf.org=0Ahttps://www.ietf.org/= mailman/listinfo/82attendees=0A____________________________________________= ___=0A82attendees mailing list=0A82attendees@ietf.org=0Ahttps://www.ietf.or= g/mailman/listinfo/82attendees=0A ---630955406-1079823970-1321293879=:38991 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Bajko,

Can you please locate Shangri-L= a, I don't where it is?
Is Toys101 inside Taipei 101= ?
 
Regards. 

Maaz Rehan
Mobile: +92 333 997 4992

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gabor.B= ajko@nokia.com" <Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com>
To: jukka.manner@aalto.fi;= maazrehan@yahoo.com
Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org
Sent: Monday, November = 14, 2011 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Sear= ch

There is a 'toys101' shop 10 min walk from the Shangri-la. It's n= ot a market, it's a regular shop with toys for kids ~1-6yo. Relatively chea= p.
The night market near the Hyatt has a few  toy shops too, but t= oys101 looked more attractive than the ones in the night market.
-gabor<= br>
-----Original Message-----
From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Manner Jukka
Se= nt: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:12 AM
To: Maaz Rehan
Cc: 82att= endees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market S= earch

Hi, I'm not local but this web site had good information and w= e visited the Guang Hwa today. Lots of electronics shops.

http://pacejmiller.com/2010/01/23/shopping-for-elec= tronics-and-toys-in-taipei/

Comparing the prices, I could find m= ost items of interest (much) cheaper back home.

Jukka

On Nov = 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Maaz Rehan wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Can any= body, Local here, can guide where is the Market for Toys and Electronics? <= br>>
> I shall be thankful for this convenience.
>
>= Best Regards. 
>
> Muhammad Maaz Rehan
> Assistan= t Professor
> Department of Computer Science
> COMSATS Institut= e of Information Technology Quaid Avenue, The Mall,
> WAH CANTT http://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html
> Mobile: +92 = 333 997 4992
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---630955406-1079823970-1321293879=:38991-- From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 14 11:14:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3E4111E8364 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:14:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.433 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.433 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.166, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xCHCuaWxoNLv for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:14:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-2.cisco.com (mtv-iport-2.cisco.com [173.36.130.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A3511E835E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:14:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1201; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321298046; x=1322507646; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=XIL6HiLOFTMolUqktG9qy3dv+YADXhbhwcl5DWFH3Eo=; b=AloI3PwogO8x/4A7cz/rfJ+IFLfIMQ5u+Ms8E3o5KAvMyolY042wq52s rAv/4LRo5/X5ZGjCgMPukgEmBvqdTqT5T90H9kZ3IbLP+A4QbOniuu8YM p//o+nfpfQykSIHHXUCWDfqExDYwTQH8rOHvyQr8cdQUi1PMNNClvSBw9 I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAPJnwU6rRDoG/2dsb2JhbAA/A6lngQWBcgEBAQMBEgECASQ/BQsLRlcGEyKHYJk6AYMuDwGbHoZlgxoEiBCWaodO X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,510,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="14160977" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2011 19:14:06 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com (sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com [10.21.84.201]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAEJE5hl017473; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:14:05 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:14:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Scheffenegger, Richard" In-Reply-To: <012C3117EDDB3C4781FD802A8C27DD4F030EDD@SACEXCMBX02-PRD.hq.netapp.com> Message-ID: References: <012C3117EDDB3C4781FD802A8C27DD4F030EDD@SACEXCMBX02-PRD.hq.netapp.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Fujitsu store X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:14:06 -0000 Richard, I have a couple of suggestions: 1. The top floor of the aforementioned Digital Plaza is devoted to "maintenance" which sort of means repairs, upgrades and the like. I think it was there that I saw a store with a large range of batteries, if it wasn't then somewhere in that same building, but I am pretty sure it was floor 5 or 6. 2. Nearby Bade Road (turn right as you face away from the Digital Plaza building), has an actual Fujitsu store --- probably mostly devoted to NEW stuff, but I suspect they can help point you in the right direction. Hope this helps. Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Scheffenegger, Richard wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know of a of Fujitsu Laptops, that may be able to get > older laptop batteries? > > Seems that mine have degraded to a point where the laptop fails > instantaneously with no early warning after 5-15 min without power > :( > > Thanks, > > Richard Scheffenegger > > > From Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com Mon Nov 14 12:09:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC9F1F0CE8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:09:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.501, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iukXI4QPXpLY for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:09:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-da02.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089221F0C5E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:09:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com (vaebh106.europe.nokia.com [10.160.244.32]) by mgw-da02.nokia.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pAEK9eu0002408; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:09:41 +0200 Received: from smtp.mgd.nokia.com ([65.54.30.20]) by vaebh106.NOE.Nokia.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:09:35 +0200 Received: from 008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com ([169.254.6.167]) by 008-AM1MMR1-011.mgdnok.nokia.com ([65.54.30.20]) with mapi id 14.01.0355.003; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:09:35 +0100 From: To: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search Thread-Index: AQHMopwzAfcS21/lWE+XMe5D/kU8UZWr416AgABbkDCAAFrWgIAAM1gQ Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:09:34 +0000 Message-ID: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A9D2@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> References: <7475_1321254505_4EC0BE69_7475_695_1_1321254482.12940.YahooMailNeo@web160720.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A751@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <1321293879.38991.YahooMailNeo@web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1321293879.38991.YahooMailNeo@web160705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.129.66.110] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A9D2008AM1MPN1006mgdn_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Nov 2011 20:09:35.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[54D0E070:01CCA309] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:09:44 -0000 --_000_1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A9D2008AM1MPN1006mgdn_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ask the concierge to show the Shangri-la Eastern Plaza to you on the map. I= t is not inside the Taipei101, just the name is similar. From: ext Maaz Rehan [mailto:maazrehan@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:05 AM To: Bajko Gabor (Nokia-CIC/SiliconValley) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search Hi Bajko, Can you please locate Shangri-La, I don't where it is? Is Toys101 inside Taipei 101? Regards. Maaz Rehan Mobile: +92 333 997 4992 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com" To: jukka.manner@aalto.fi; maazrehan@yahoo.com Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search There is a 'toys101' shop 10 min walk from the Shangri-la. It's not a marke= t, it's a regular shop with toys for kids ~1-6yo. Relatively cheap. The night market near the Hyatt has a few toy shops too, but toys101 looke= d more attractive than the ones in the night market. -gabor -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [ma= ilto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of ext Manner Jukka Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:12 AM To: Maaz Rehan Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search Hi, I'm not local but this web site had good information and we visited the= Guang Hwa today. Lots of electronics shops. http://pacejmiller.com/2010/01/23/shopping-for-electronics-and-toys-in-taip= ei/ Comparing the prices, I could find most items of interest (much) cheaper ba= ck home. Jukka On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Maaz Rehan wrote: > Hi All, > > Can anybody, Local here, can guide where is the Market for Toys and Elect= ronics? > > I shall be thankful for this convenience. > > Best Regards. > > Muhammad Maaz Rehan > Assistant Professor > Department of Computer Science > COMSATS Institute of Information Technology Quaid Avenue, The Mall, > WAH CANTT http://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html > Mobile: +92 333 997 4992 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees --_000_1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A9D2008AM1MPN1006mgdn_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ask the concierge to show= the Shangri-la Eastern Plaza to you on the map. It is not inside the Taipe= i101, just the name is similar.

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 <= /p>

From: ext Maaz= Rehan [mailto:maazrehan@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:05 AM
To: Bajko Gabor (Nokia-CIC/SiliconValley)
Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search=

 

Hi Bajko,

 

Can you please locate Shangri-La, I don't where it i= s?

Is Toys101 inside Taipei 101?

 

Regards. 

Maaz Rehan
Mobile: +92 333 997 4992

 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com" <Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com>
To: jukka.manner@aalto.fi; maazrehan@yahoo.com
Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search

There is a 'toys101' shop 10 min walk from the Shangri-la. It's not a marke= t, it's a regular shop with toys for kids ~1-6yo. Relatively cheap.
The night market near the Hyatt has a few  toy shops too, but toys101 = looked more attractive than the ones in the night market.
-gabor

-----Original Message-----
From: 82attendees-bounces@i= etf.org [mailto:82atten= dees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Manner Jukka
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:12 AM
To: Maaz Rehan
Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search

Hi, I'm not local but this web site had good information and we visited the= Guang Hwa today. Lots of electronics shops.

http://pacejmiller.com/2010/01/23/shoppin= g-for-electronics-and-toys-in-taipei/

Comparing the prices, I could find most items of interest (much) cheaper ba= ck home.

Jukka

On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Maaz Rehan wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Can anybody, Local here, can guide where is the Market for Toys and El= ectronics?
>
> I shall be thankful for this convenience.
>
> Best Regards. 
>
> Muhammad Maaz Rehan
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Computer Science
> COMSATS Institute of Information Technology Quaid Avenue, The Mall, > WAH CANTT http://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html
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SJC-MBX-01.symmetricom.com ([169.254.1.221]) by SJC-HUB-01.symmetricom.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0289.001; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:53:03 -0800 From: Samer Darras To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Social Ticket available (was Re: social ticket wantname list) X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: [82attendees] Social Ticket available (was Re: social ticket wantname list) Thread-Index: AQHMopa8gXrBDkMWCk+eGl/5OKI495WtG/hQ Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:53:03 +0000 Message-ID: <2D0442B160294941A3419F3B6524926E38AB4F0E@SJC-MBX-01.symmetricom.com> References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A2F5@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <201111141405.EJB88212.LBFZ@ieee.org> <201111141528.BBE20578.LBFZ@ieee.org> In-Reply-To: <201111141528.BBE20578.LBFZ@ieee.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.7.46] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[192.168.10.171] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1321318384 X-Barracuda-URL: http://192.168.10.96:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at symmetricom.com Subject: Re: [82attendees] Social Ticket available (was Re: social ticket wantname list) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:54:14 -0000 I have one Social ticket for sale if anyone is interested...I am in V.I.P R= oom- 4th floor - Fist chair, black shirt. -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of MIYAKE Shigeru Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 10:29 PM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Social Ticket available (was Re: social ticket w= antname list) Hello, Within 1 hours I got 6 emails for the one ticket. I have already sent back to the person who will got it. I am very sorry to other persons who are interested in it. Thanks you, In message <201111141405.EJB88212.LBFZ@ieee.org> "[82attendees] Social Ticket available (was Re: social ticket wantname l= ist) " "MIYAKE Shigeru " wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > I also have one social ticket available for sale. > Anybody who still wants to get it, please let me know, FCFS. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > # Actually I pick one person from the Wiki name list, but no reply so far= . > # A'm sorry to the person who got my first mail... >=20 > In message > > "Re: [82attendees] social ticket want name list" > "Hui Deng " wrote: >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > I need one =1B$B!$=1B(B thanks > >=20 > > -Hui > >=20 > > 2011/11/14 > >=20 > > > Do you still need a social ticket? I am selling mine. Gabor**** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > *From:* 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf= . org] > > > *On Behalf Of *ext Hui Deng > > > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:12 PM > > > *To:* 82attendees@ietf.org > > > *Subject:* [82attendees] social ticket want name list**** > > > > > > ** ** > > > > > > Hello all,**** > > > > > > **** > > > > > > I remember I am the No.3 puting my name for waiting for social ticket= ,=20 but > > > it looks like I am no. 5-6 or so now,**** > > > > > > Just wondering when people edit a new name, they are not put their > > > name from the bottom?**** > > > > > > **** > > > > > > -Hui**** > > > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > 82attendees mailing list > > 82attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > (((( Shigeru MIYAKE ((((=20 > )))) Tokyo, JAPAN )))) > (((( E-mail: yake@ieee.org ((((=20 > )))) Cellular: +86-l39l0385l9O )))) > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 -- (((( Shigeru MIYAKE ((((=20 )))) Tokyo, JAPAN )))) (((( E-mail: yake@ieee.org ((((=20 )))) Cellular: +86-l39l0385l9O )))) _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From warren@kumari.net Mon Nov 14 17:37:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1139521F8E7F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:37:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n6vDDVeFM4T2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from vimes.kumari.net (vimes.kumari.net [198.186.192.250]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E4421F8EA2 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.30.23.144] (unknown [72.14.229.161]) by vimes.kumari.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E50DF1B404C7; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:37:45 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Warren Kumari In-Reply-To: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222C97@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:37:40 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <27748AE8-45C5-49EA-975F-0338E7B6B077@kumari.net> References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> <4EC07083.1030000@mulligan.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222C97@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> To: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: Geoff Mulligan , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:37:52 -0000 On Nov 14, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: > = http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g293913-d306447-r6043624-Grand_= Hyatt_Taipei-Taipei.html >=20 > The "Nice hotel, but haunted" review seems quite interesting. I am = hoping that the ghosts will get bored spooking people out of their wits = by the time I reach there tomorrow and that my stay would hopefully = remain quite uneventful. Ah, thank you, this explain a lot=85. The toilet in my room flushes itself 2 or 4 times a night -- I had = thought that people were sneaking into my room to pee[0], but now I = realize it must be ghosts=85=20 Cool. W [0] It's weird what you'll come up with when you're mostly asleep -- the = fact that folk were apparently breaking into my room to use the loo = didn't seem to worry me much... >=20 > Cheers, Manav=20 >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 >> [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Mulligan >> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:06 AM >> To: 82attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted >>=20 >> There are a bunch of links that claim the Grand Hyatt is haunted. >>=20 >> Let us know if you see a ghost in your room, other than the=20 >> ghost of working IPv6. >>=20 >> geoff >>=20 >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reportedly_haunted_locati >> ons_in_the_world >> http://luxpresso.com/photogallery-indulge/worlds-top-10-haunte > d-hotels/8765/11 >> http://www.chinastudygroup.org/travel-sites-on-the-worlds-top- > 10-haunted-taipei-grand-hyatt-hotel-list.html >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 From Adnan.Saleem@radisys.com Mon Nov 14 18:23:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD2211E810C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:23:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vbtf5R8RBdmG for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail4.radisys.com (mail4.radisys.com [207.189.106.90]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EC311E818C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:23:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from OREXCHANGE03.radisys.com ([fe80::79bb:611b:3499:8b0e]) by orexchange04.radisys.com ([fe80::ed67:8c6c:46af:961e%23]) with mapi id 14.01.0289.001; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:23:20 -0800 From: Adnan Saleem To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: 1 Social Ticket available Thread-Index: AcyjPXcxp0Pd6wEKRfyJTMrnVpaqnw== Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:23:19 +0000 Message-ID: <787D809CF5669445A754E39453EE771C1137CD@OREXCHANGE03.radisys.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [82attendees] 1 Social Ticket available X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:23:21 -0000 I have one available, please email me if you need one. Adnan From humbertogaliza@gmail.com Mon Nov 14 18:23:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5B411E810C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:23:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7K2zrUIrrOjg for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8CA11E8360 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by ggnr5 with SMTP id r5so1834387ggn.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:23:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=6UNwBG0Dj4zHPpranJkRTFF7EQ9z/tVvKJ7sjUBWnU0=; b=byShSR/xHHe4JGTZ3BclgDDbLjiXNv/2+Dp/Y0HZqi4j1cPbh6qcq/EdhHAn9E1hHt N1fykZU2J65k5hHt7isbe0OL58i6AmTZ/EeB5yXno5qlzWy1S2wL+UHgw6/yUKLyS1uu sxnUusZMCc4W0XLLGqpaD3BqPpcYORO7YfuEQ= Received: by 10.101.85.4 with SMTP id n4mr7004237anl.155.1321323834119; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-523a.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-523a.meeting.ietf.org. [130.129.82.58]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l27sm67441845ani.21.2011.11.14.18.23.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:23:52 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Humberto Galiza In-Reply-To: <27748AE8-45C5-49EA-975F-0338E7B6B077@kumari.net> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:23:46 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> <4EC07083.1030000@mulligan.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222C97@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <27748AE8-45C5-49EA-975F-0338E7B6B077@kumari.net> To: Warren Kumari X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: Geoff Mulligan , "Bhatia, Manav \(Manav\)" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:23:55 -0000 Em 15/11/2011, =E0s 09:37, Warren Kumari escreveu: >=20 > On Nov 14, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: >=20 >> = http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g293913-d306447-r6043624-Grand_= Hyatt_Taipei-Taipei.html >>=20 >> The "Nice hotel, but haunted" review seems quite interesting. I am = hoping that the ghosts will get bored spooking people out of their wits = by the time I reach there tomorrow and that my stay would hopefully = remain quite uneventful. >=20 > Ah, thank you, this explain a lot=85. And now it's explain why the internet connection went down at my floor = at 1am=85I think the (a lot of) ghosts were downloading some torrents, = and using a lot of internet bandwidth=85 >=20 > The toilet in my room flushes itself 2 or 4 times a night -- I had = thought that people were sneaking into my room to pee[0], but now I = realize it must be ghosts=85=20 >=20 > Cool. >=20 > W >=20 > [0] It's weird what you'll come up with when you're mostly asleep -- = the fact that folk were apparently breaking into my room to use the loo = didn't seem to worry me much... >>=20 >> Cheers, Manav=20 >>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 >>> [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Mulligan >>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:06 AM >>> To: 82attendees@ietf.org >>> Subject: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted >>>=20 >>> There are a bunch of links that claim the Grand Hyatt is haunted. >>>=20 >>> Let us know if you see a ghost in your room, other than the=20 >>> ghost of working IPv6. >>>=20 >>> geoff >>>=20 >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reportedly_haunted_locati >>> ons_in_the_world >>> http://luxpresso.com/photogallery-indulge/worlds-top-10-haunte >> d-hotels/8765/11 >>> http://www.chinastudygroup.org/travel-sites-on-the-worlds-top- >> 10-haunted-taipei-grand-hyatt-hotel-list.html >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 82attendees mailing list >>> 82attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >>>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From abelyang@twnic.net.tw Mon Nov 14 19:00:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955F61F0D7B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:00:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.171 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.171 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.540, BAYES_20=-0.74, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bWpzFAE6-PiV for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:00:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from twnic.net.tw (unknown [IPv6:2001:288:4:1:21e:8cff:fe22:a99d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02ED1F0D7A for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from abelyang (pc093.twnic.net.tw [211.72.211.93]) by twnic.net.tw (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAF2xhuc009291; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:59:43 +0800 Message-ID: From: "Abel" To: , References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A9EA@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> In-Reply-To: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A9EA@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:59:40 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="gb2312"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 211.72.210.250 Cc: jukka.manner@aalto.fi, maazrehan@yahoo.com, 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:00:03 -0000 I am local, and I like toys too. Toy101 near hotel Shangri-la http://g.co/maps/ty2f3 I suggest another toys store near TICC, about 1 mile from TICC, it's a cheap model & small toys store in Taipei.( URL http://www.afv.com.tw , Traditional Chinese language only) (Cars/Aircraft/Gundam/Weapon/Ship/Plastic toys/Star Wars/Aircraft Carrier ...) http://g.co/maps/arpj3 In Taipei, the major toys market locates Taipei Main Station,Taipei City Mall (Underground maze) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei_Underground_Market , Many toys shops/store are near Y13 exits/entrances. Goold luck, Abel ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; ; <82attendees@ietf.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 4:23 AM Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search > This is how I got there: > I turned right after exiting the Shangri-la, hotel, then passed by one > 7/11, and the store was just across the street from the second 7/11. > Google is not the only searching tool. If nothing else, ask the concierge > in the Shangri-la, that's how I found it. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ext liuhongyfw@chinamobile.com [mailto:liuhongyfw@chinamobile.com] > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 8:11 AM > To: Bajko Gabor (Nokia-CIC/SiliconValley) > Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org; jukka.manner@aalto.fi; maazrehan@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search > > > unfortunately it is not marked in google map > > > > =======д======= > There is a 'toys101' shop 10 min walk from the Shangri-la. It's not a > market, it's a regular shop with toys for kids ~1-6yo. Relatively cheap. > The night market near the Hyatt has a few toy shops too, but toys101 > looked more attractive than the ones in the night market. > -gabor > > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of ext Manner Jukka > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:12 AM > To: Maaz Rehan > Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search > > Hi, I'm not local but this web site had good information and we visited > the Guang Hwa today. Lots of electronics shops. > > http://pacejmiller.com/2010/01/23/shopping-for-electronics-and-toys-in-taipei/ > > Comparing the prices, I could find most items of interest (much) cheaper > back home. > > Jukka > > On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Maaz Rehan wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Can anybody, Local here, can guide where is the Market for Toys and >> Electronics? >> >> I shall be thankful for this convenience. >> >> Best Regards. >> >> Muhammad Maaz Rehan >> Assistant Professor >> Department of Computer Science >> COMSATS Institute of Information Technology Quaid Avenue, The Mall, >> WAH CANTT http://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html >> Mobile: +92 333 997 4992 >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > Best regards, > Hong LIU > 3GPP Lead > Research Institute, China Mobile > ************************************************ > Tel : +86 10 66006688-3117 > Fax : +86 10 63600340 > Mobile : +86 13501093376 > E-mail : liuhongyfw@chinamobile.com > Address: 53A,Xibianmennei Ave.,Xuanwu District, > Beijing,100053 China > ************************************************ > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From mellon@fugue.com Mon Nov 14 19:03:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2460C1F0D8E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:03:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.418 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.418 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.215, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cJqQePpCm6Gm for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36D41F0D80 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::80:9458:4948:63d6:ca83] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:80:9458:4948:63d6:ca83]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9D5B2380950 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:03:18 -0500 (EST) From: Ted Lemon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) Message-Id: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:03:46 +0800 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:03:20 -0000 I've had two USB power supplies pop shortly after being plugged in at the Sh= angri-La. Has anyone else had this experience? (No, I am not plugging it= into the electric shaver outlet). From lukekb@gmail.com Mon Nov 14 19:08:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E57D1F0D66 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:08:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MlWFcPkiv-fz for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:08:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DA01F0C98 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:08:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so568751bkb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:08:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HFFL1PQRl4SgyoHwsdJSdbT7mYqKutfbGEsYFyTBntY=; b=EqAv5xQvUObGUkn7934YBDhHdv0jrl8YUY2Nw1yXu1zrdZtxcLOk94kN90l6P4+uTa Yy9/sW0me1YVthiaOt0R3hh8yo5NwCjvOVnqqtU7QIOaKcHSFDNIMWOLnl2PF95rNQPt dPJ8IViZbTB089MUmuzU0JUixKYidv27J2D94= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.126.130 with SMTP id gw2mr661387bkc.59.1321326532999; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:08:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.51.193 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:08:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:08:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Luke B To: Ted Lemon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce028aca1bbc104b1bd4e43 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:08:55 -0000 --000e0ce028aca1bbc104b1bd4e43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My adapters have been fine. It is possible they are not popped. In my room, if you turn off the Master light switch on the console with all the buttons it also turns off some outlets. Make sure you have Master & Room turned on, and your Key in the socket thingy near the door. - Luke On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > I've had two USB power supplies pop shortly after being plugged in at the > Shangri-La. Has anyone else had this experience? (No, I am not plugging > it into the electric shaver outlet). > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > -- _________________________________________________________ What's for dinner? Visit www.cookography.com to find out! --000e0ce028aca1bbc104b1bd4e43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My adapters have been fine.

It is possible they ar= e not popped. In my room, if you turn off the Master light switch on the co= nsole with all the buttons it also turns off some outlets. Make sure you ha= ve Master & Room turned on, and your Key in the socket thingy near the = door.

=A0- Luke

On Mon, Nov 14, = 2011 at 10:03 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
I've had two USB power supplies pop shortly after being plugged in at t= he Shangri-La. =A0 Has anyone else had this experience? =A0 (No, I am not p= lugging it into the electric shaver outlet).

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--000e0ce028aca1bbc104b1bd4e43-- From mellon@fugue.com Mon Nov 14 19:19:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C160311E8179 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:19:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.404 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.404 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.201, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9f01HZ1Lfir5 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69ADD11E809F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::80:9458:4948:63d6:ca83] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:80:9458:4948:63d6:ca83]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 42A4E2381C89; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:19:04 -0500 (EST) References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <0D7C1EDF-BD05-4888-AED6-FFD12129214C@fugue.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:19:31 +0800 To: Luke B Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:19:05 -0000 On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Luke B wrote: > It is possible they are not popped. In my room, if you turn off the Master= light switch on the console with all the buttons it also turns off some out= lets. Make sure you have Master & Room turned on, and your Key in the socket= thingy near the door. I wish that were so, but the loud pops and smoke serve as a clue that your t= heory is too optimistic.= From quincy.wu@gmail.com Mon Nov 14 19:19:09 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721D311E830B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:19:09 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TSN-wYhqG4PI for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:19:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yx0-f172.google.com (mail-yx0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE47611E82A3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by yenq4 with SMTP id q4so4244343yen.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:19:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=AxsQwqvHkriAvhFbmGBxVRuVYboiz/2aWBYGRVZI7r8=; b=FeH62q+PT9t+rZ0J2Oz9R4wc77g39YDwlM/akxxVxLVRDRaDONxp0XUPI/sTrWgVwu 7XKM0YkvjLY+d2qWGVJRDDFi/yKcMp/uY33s2KSQaWXtiyyyWOVI+IADRVx1thtsDVP5 rOD40SdZYht0LrldTWOwElUN0xrA6yeWzEio0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.146.92.19 with SMTP id p19mr2644491yab.7.1321327148446; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:19:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: quincy.wu@gmail.com Received: by 10.236.44.6 with HTTP; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:19:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:19:08 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -oq67Yjp4YkyilC5uv2VGrLPURI Message-ID: From: Aaron Solomon in 2011 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3033850b4e104b1bd736c Subject: [82attendees] Looking for photographs in technical plenary X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:19:14 -0000 --000e0cd3033850b4e104b1bd736c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear All, I am looking for a photograph which can show there are lots of participants in the technical plenary on Monday evening. Can anyone kindly to share? Unfortunately my camera is not capable of doing that. :-( Quincy Nov. 15 --000e0cd3033850b4e104b1bd736c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All,

I am looking for a photograph which can show t= here are lots of participants in the technical plenary on Monday evening. = =A0Can anyone kindly to share? =A0Unfortunately my camera is not capable of= doing that. =A0:-(

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--000e0cd3033850b4e104b1bd736c-- From robert.assimiti@nivis.com Mon Nov 14 19:24:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950231F0C97 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:24:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ap3YbI9BHgqO for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nivis.com (smtp.nivis.com [65.205.163.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85F01F0C96 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from ATLEXCH02.nivis.com ([10.0.0.18]) by ATLEXCH02.nivis.com ([10.0.0.18]) with mapi; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:24:20 -0500 From: Robert Assimiti To: Luke B , Ted Lemon Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:24:17 -0500 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? Thread-Index: AcyjQ+s3QIx7cP+QTtOa/BGXb/c6PAAAcEgA Message-ID: <67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747@ATLEXCH02.nivis.com> References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747ATLEXCH02nivi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:24:22 -0000 --_000_67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747ATLEXCH02nivi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ted, Sounds like a grounding problem in the particular plug you are using. I am also staying at the Shangri-La and I implore you to notify the hotel m= aintenance crew before we all turn into roasted Thks-giving turkeys... Robert Assimiti Nivis Director of Technology and Standards Office [678]-202-6859 Mobile [404]-578-0205 From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Luke B Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:09 PM To: Ted Lemon Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? My adapters have been fine. It is possible they are not popped. In my room, if you turn off the Master = light switch on the console with all the buttons it also turns off some out= lets. Make sure you have Master & Room turned on, and your Key in the socke= t thingy near the door. - Luke On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Ted Lemon > wrote: I've had two USB power supplies pop shortly after being plugged in at the S= hangri-La. Has anyone else had this experience? (No, I am not plugging = it into the electric shaver outlet). _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees -- _________________________________________________________ What's for dinner? Visit www.cookography.com to= find out! ________________________________ This e-mail (including any attachments to it) is confidential, proprietary,= legally privileged, subject to copyright and is sent for the personal atte= ntion of the intended recipient only. If you have received this e-mail in e= rror, please reply to advise us immediately, delete it and destroy any prin= ted copies of it. You are notified that reading, disclosing, copying, distr= ibuting or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this informatio= n is strictly prohibited. No employee is authorized to conclude any binding= agreement on behalf of NIVIS LLC with another party by e-mail without expr= ess written confirmation by an officer of the company. Although we have tak= en reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in this e-mail, = we cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising from the vir= uses in this e-mail or attachments. --_000_67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747ATLEXCH02nivi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ted,

 <= /p>

Sounds like a grounding p= roblem in the particular plug you are using.

 <= /p>

I am also staying at the = Shangri-La and I implore you to notify the hotel maintenance crew before we= all turn into roasted Thks-giving turkeys...

 <= /p>

Robert Assimiti

Nivis

Director of Technology= and Standards

Office [678]-202-6859<= /span>

Mobile [404]-578-0205<= o:p>

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From: 82attend= ees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Luke B
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 10:09 PM
To: Ted Lemon
Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies?<= /p>

 

My adapters have been fine.

 

It is possible they are not popped. In my room, if y= ou turn off the Master light switch on the console with all the buttons it = also turns off some outlets. Make sure you have Master & Room turned on= , and your Key in the socket thingy near the door.

 

 - Luke

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:03 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:<= /p>

I've had two USB power supplies pop shortly after be= ing plugged in at the Shangri-La.   Has anyone else had this experienc= e?   (No, I am not plugging it into the electric shaver outlet).

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 --_000_67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747ATLEXCH02nivi_-- From mellon@fugue.com Mon Nov 14 19:36:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C088A1F0DB9 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:36:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.381 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.381 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.179, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yGZ+UCL78FqF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:36:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DBF1F0DB6 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:36:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::80:9458:4948:63d6:ca83] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:80:9458:4948:63d6:ca83]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8848A2381CA1; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:36:15 -0500 (EST) References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> <67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747@ATLEXCH02.nivis.com> In-Reply-To: <67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747@ATLEXCH02.nivis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D52A9B19-F90C-40E9-AE45-E068091E1447 Message-Id: <431713A8-EE9E-4080-A8A1-39F135F410E1@fugue.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:36:43 +0800 To: Robert Assimiti Cc: Luke B , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:36:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail-D52A9B19-F90C-40E9-AE45-E068091E1447 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Robert Assimiti wr= ote: > Sounds like a grounding problem in the particular plug you are using. >=20 Hm, this is probably a good idea. :) --Apple-Mail-D52A9B19-F90C-40E9-AE45-E068091E1447 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Robert Assimiti <robert.assimiti@nivis.com> wrote:

Sounds like a grounding problem in the particular plug you are using.

Hm, this is probably a good idea.   :)

--Apple-Mail-D52A9B19-F90C-40E9-AE45-E068091E1447-- From smb@cs.columbia.edu Mon Nov 14 19:46:26 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8001F0C5C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:46:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U41aGyxui9b1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from brinza.cc.columbia.edu (brinza.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC08D1F0C45 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:46:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-638a.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-638a.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.99.138]) (user=smb2132 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by brinza.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAF3k5ZP020290 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:46:10 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Steven Bellovin In-Reply-To: <0D7C1EDF-BD05-4888-AED6-FFD12129214C@fugue.com> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:29:38 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9D4AAEAD-929A-409B-8823-A24B20C12FF0@cs.columbia.edu> References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> <0D7C1EDF-BD05-4888-AED6-FFD12129214C@fugue.com> To: Ted Lemon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.8 Cc: Luke B , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:46:26 -0000 On Nov 14, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Luke B wrote: >> It is possible they are not popped. In my room, if you turn off the = Master light switch on the console with all the buttons it also turns = off some outlets. Make sure you have Master & Room turned on, and your = Key in the socket thingy near the door. >=20 > I wish that were so, but the loud pops and smoke serve as a clue that = your theory is too optimistic. Yah -- when you let the magic smoke out of a gadget, it rarely works = well afterwards. --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb From coverdale@sympatico.ca Mon Nov 14 19:55:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BCD1F0C45 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:55:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.865 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.865 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.929, BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER=0.803] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LNUpiRkedWba for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.173]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1E11F0C69 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from BLU0-SMTP49 ([65.55.111.137]) by blu0-omc4-s34.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:55:35 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [130.129.39.34] X-Originating-Email: [coverdale@sympatico.ca] Message-ID: Received: from PaulNewPC ([130.129.39.34]) by BLU0-SMTP49.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:55:33 -0800 From: Paul Coverdale To: "'Ted Lemon'" References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> <67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747@ATLEXCH02.nivis.com> <431713A8-EE9E-4080-A8A1-39F135F410E1@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: <431713A8-EE9E-4080-A8A1-39F135F410E1@fugue.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:55:28 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01CCA38D.7A5663E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcyjR8M1DQOtVHCERWmd/OBDlSZOZAAAg26Q Content-Language: en-us X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2011 03:55:33.0997 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D1609D0:01CCA34A] Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:55:39 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CCA38D.7A5663E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Was it the same outlet that fried both power supplies? Which one? = I=E2=80=99m also staying at the Shangri-La. =20 From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Ted Lemon Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:37 AM To: Robert Assimiti Cc: Luke B; 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? =20 On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Robert Assimiti = wrote: Sounds like a grounding problem in the particular plug you are using. Hm, this is probably a good idea. :) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01CCA38D.7A5663E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Was it the same outlet that fried both power supplies? Which one? = =C2=A0I=E2=80=99m also staying at the = Shangri-La.

 

From:= = 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org= [mailto:82attendees= -bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Lemon
Sent: = Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:37 AM
To: Robert = Assimiti
Cc: Luke B; 82attendees@ietf.org
Subje= ct: Re: [82attendees] Popped power = supplies?

 

On Nov = 15, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Robert Assimiti <robert.assimiti@nivis.com&g= t; wrote:

Sounds like a grounding problem in the particular plug you are = using.

Hm, this is probably a good idea.   = :)

 

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Perkins" Organization: Wichorus Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> <0D7C1EDF-BD05-4888-AED6-FFD12129214C@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: <0D7C1EDF-BD05-4888-AED6-FFD12129214C@fugue.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 137d7d78656ed6919973fd6a8f21c4f2d780f4a490ca6956d5d4673fe7faad86be157a9e066815798f6f345240fb6e6e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 130.129.83.71 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:26:37 -0800 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:27:12 -0000 Hello folks, It could be a random failure, but my (non-USB) adapter has stopped working in the IETF rooms. No smoke or fire, but it _seems_ to be shorting out and sucking all the power from the other connected power strips. Perhaps the power strips are 220V and my adapter has started to fail on 220V supply. The adapter does work in my room (110V), thank goodness. Regards, Charlie P. On 11/14/2011 7:19 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Luke B wrote: >> It is possible they are not popped. In my room, if you turn off the Master light switch on the console with all the buttons it also turns off some outlets. Make sure you have Master& Room turned on, and your Key in the socket thingy near the door. > > I wish that were so, but the loud pops and smoke serve as a clue that your theory is too optimistic. > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From haway@twnic.net.tw Mon Nov 14 20:32:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36CC11E8191 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:32:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UnA53-POHwCd for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from services-1.meeting.ietf.org (services.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.5.6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1485A11E8160 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:32:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.33.74] (dhcp-214a.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.33.74]) by services-1.meeting.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B03A7261 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EC1EB4A.6040105@twnic.net.tw> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:32:10 +0800 From: HaWay User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040800030502040902090701" Subject: [82attendees] The print paper format X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:32:13 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040800030502040902090701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear folks: If you want to print something, please go to terminal room on 4F(V.I.P room), and modify the paper size function to "A4" size. Thanks. HaWay --------------040800030502040902090701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear folks:

If you want to print something, please go to terminal room on 4F(V.I.P room), and modify the paper size function to "A4" size.
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HaWay
--------------040800030502040902090701-- From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 14 20:32:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED92411E81B1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:32:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.439 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.439 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.160, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wHdIXoJQN-U8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:32:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575BF11E8160 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:32:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1632; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321331565; x=1322541165; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=9mgtpZ8TtB6ERTLNw74kvWZG6+HrEe68GN1gTaummSU=; b=GFPb/+Y/8qnTVbzMbtCr6mwnaLvJcPFQMf+tlaJ84GtcnKXJ017qEuZh DpzPiwDQbttSbRYJBt0aXmGi2vyuYfHqjzJwcteKqhKG1jVPB7MYjOaX3 PQfQ/AXz7nFCZLcpTBWHBbUu1NRUAtfKWA6y5rnJxExI1UKn5pM4Acv6h 8=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAPLqwU6rRDoJ/2dsb2JhbABBA6lpgQWBcgEBAQMBAQEBDwECASQ0CxALGC4hBjAGEyKHYAicUQGDLg8Bm0SGZYMaBIgQlmkBh04 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,513,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="14307483" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2011 04:32:45 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com (sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com [10.21.84.201]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAF4Wi0P023935; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:32:44 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:32:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Charles E. Perkins" In-Reply-To: <4EC1DC05.8080607@earthlink.net> Message-ID: References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> <0D7C1EDF-BD05-4888-AED6-FFD12129214C@fugue.com> <4EC1DC05.8080607@earthlink.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:32:46 -0000 I don't think 220V is used in Taiwan, at least not in the kind of powerstrips in use here. Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Charles E. Perkins wrote: > > Hello folks, > > It could be a random failure, but my (non-USB) adapter has > stopped working in the IETF rooms. No smoke or fire, but it > _seems_ to be shorting out and sucking all the power from > the other connected power strips. Perhaps the power strips > are 220V and my adapter has started to fail on 220V supply. > The adapter does work in my room (110V), thank goodness. > > Regards, > Charlie P. > > > On 11/14/2011 7:19 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > > On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Luke B wrote: > > > It is possible they are not popped. In my room, if you turn off > > > the Master light switch on the console with all the buttons it > > > also turns off some outlets. Make sure you have Master& Room > > > turned on, and your Key in the socket thingy near the door. > > > > I wish that were so, but the loud pops and smoke serve as a clue > > that your theory is too optimistic. > > _______________________________________________ > > 82attendees mailing list > > 82attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From mellon@fugue.com Mon Nov 14 20:41:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89C51F0DB2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:41:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.372 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.372 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.169, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v9mwlalfP7O8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355A41F0DA9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::80:a96c:13d3:3d2e:e267] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:80:a96c:13d3:3d2e:e267]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 331AA2381DBE; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:41:21 -0500 (EST) References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> <67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747@ATLEXCH02.nivis.com> <431713A8-EE9E-4080-A8A1-39F135F410E1@fugue.com> From: Ted Lemon Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <5A18A04C-924C-4DB7-B464-E13C471AF75D@fugue.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:26:58 +0800 To: Paul Coverdale Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) Cc: "<82attendees@ietf.org>" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:41:23 -0000 On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Paul Coverdale wrote:= > Was it the same outlet that fried both power supplies? Which one? I=A1=AF= m also staying at the Shangri-La. Two different outlets in my room.=20= From prvs=29327b893=jjaeggli@zynga.com Mon Nov 14 20:46:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEAC21F8CDD for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:46:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.838 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.838 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.239, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HnZY0i2UEx9V for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from c7-ip01.zynga.com (c7-ip01.zynga.com [72.5.237.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F360D21F8CDA for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:46:27 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received-SPF: Pass identity=mailfrom; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="postmaster@C7-EX-HUB01.corp.zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received: from c7-ex-hub01.corp.zynga.com ([172.16.100.13]) by c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com with ESMTP; 14 Nov 2011 20:46:27 -0800 Received: from C7-EX-MB03.corp.zynga.com ([fe80::91f8:94d3:4c14:48cc]) by C7-EX-HUB01.corp.zynga.com ([fe80::5868:2b47:3c0e:c908%10]) with mapi; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:46:27 -0800 From: Joel Jaeggli To: "Charles E. Perkins" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:46:21 -0800 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? Thread-Index: AcyjUYjvmGwvyJGFRFudbvuuyENOcg== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4EC1DC05.8080607@earthlink.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:46:28 -0000 there is no 220v power on consumer outlets in this country. --=20 Joel Jaeggli=20 Network Engineering +1.541.513.4095 jjaeggli@zynga.com On 11/15/11 11:27 , "Charles E. Perkins" wrote: > >Hello folks, > >It could be a random failure, but my (non-USB) adapter has >stopped working in the IETF rooms. No smoke or fire, but it >_seems_ to be shorting out and sucking all the power from >the other connected power strips. Perhaps the power strips >are 220V and my adapter has started to fail on 220V supply. >The adapter does work in my room (110V), thank goodness. > >Regards, >Charlie P. > > >On 11/14/2011 7:19 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: >> On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Luke B wrote: >>> It is possible they are not popped. In my room, if you turn off the >>>Master light switch on the console with all the buttons it also turns >>>off some outlets. Make sure you have Master& Room turned on, and your >>>Key in the socket thingy near the door. >> >> I wish that were so, but the loud pops and smoke serve as a clue that >>your theory is too optimistic. >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >> > >_______________________________________________ >82attendees mailing list >82attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From randy@psg.com Mon Nov 14 20:50:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78AE811E80EA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:50:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.589 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.589 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.010, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5OSx6clAlxaX for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F6A11E8113 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RQAyD-0003hh-5s; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:50:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:50:04 +0800 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Samer Darras In-Reply-To: <2D0442B160294941A3419F3B6524926E38AB4F0E@SJC-MBX-01.symmetricom.com> References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A2F5@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <201111141405.EJB88212.LBFZ@ieee.org> <201111141528.BBE20578.LBFZ@ieee.org> <2D0442B160294941A3419F3B6524926E38AB4F0E@SJC-MBX-01.symmetricom.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Social Ticket available (was Re: social ticket wantname list) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:50:06 -0000 the two drawings on the wall to the right of the elevator are to assuage the spirits of the many who died in the occupation prison. randy From ashir@soc.ait.kyushu-u.ac.jp Mon Nov 14 21:02:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3530F1F0CF7 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:02:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.399 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.399 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IXdlaIQ8YgIZ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from hosting1.cc.kyushu-u.ac.jp (hosting1.cc.kyushu-u.ac.jp [133.5.5.208]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 48F7E1F0C4F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10290 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2011 14:02:15 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO dhcp-11e2.meeting.ietf.org) (ashir@soc.ait.kyushu-u.ac.jp@130.129.17.226) by hosting1.cc.kyushu-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Nov 2011 14:02:15 +0900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Ashir Ahmed In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:02:13 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A2F5@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <201111141405.EJB88212.LBFZ@ieee.org> <201111141528.BBE20578.LBFZ@ieee.org> <2D0442B160294941A3419F3B6524926E38AB4F0E@SJC-MBX-01.symmetricom.com> To: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [82attendees] extra social event ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:02:21 -0000 Hi Anyone wants a social event ticket? There is an extra one. First come = first serve (cash).=20 Ashir From ashir@soc.ait.kyushu-u.ac.jp Mon Nov 14 21:23:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A8DD11E80F2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:23:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.955 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.955 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.445, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, J_CHICKENPOX_43=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0+lHdt3tOOMU for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from hosting1.cc.kyushu-u.ac.jp (hosting1.cc.kyushu-u.ac.jp [133.5.5.208]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3630211E8073 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 32346 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2011 14:22:58 +0900 Received: from unknown (HELO dhcp-11e2.meeting.ietf.org) (ashir@soc.ait.kyushu-u.ac.jp@130.129.17.226) by hosting1.cc.kyushu-u.ac.jp with SMTP; 15 Nov 2011 14:22:58 +0900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Ashir Ahmed In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:22:54 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6669DE85-6D96-4B34-89A9-665F9FF7ADBA@soc.ait.kyushu-u.ac.jp> References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A2F5@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <201111141405.EJB88212.LBFZ@ieee.org> <201111141528.BBE20578.LBFZ@ieee.org> <2D0442B160294941A3419F3B6524926E38AB4F0E@SJC-MBX-01.symmetricom.com> To: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Re: [82attendees] extra social event ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:23:01 -0000 Hi, the ticket is sold already. so many responses in few seconds!! thanks, Ashir On Nov 15, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Ashir Ahmed wrote: > Hi >=20 > Anyone wants a social event ticket? There is an extra one. First come = first serve (cash).=20 >=20 > Ashir >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 (Note my new email address and affiliation) --------------------------------- Ashir Ahmed, PhD Associate Professor Department of Advanced Information Technology, Kyushu University W2-648, Ito Campus 744, Moto'oka, Nishi-ku, Fukuoka 819-0395, Japan Tel: 092-802-3632 Email: ashir@soc.ait.kyushu-u.ac.jp http://www.c.csce.kyushu-u.ac.jp/~ashir/ From alper.yegin@yegin.org Mon Nov 14 21:30:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55B011E80F2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:30:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aMVNJi5ys2Qe for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:30:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4F611E8073 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:30:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.2] (odakk1.odakk.com [78.111.98.194]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LxQ26-1Qp4jS0zbG-016qyC; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:30:42 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) From: Alper Yegin In-Reply-To: <787D809CF5669445A754E39453EE771C1137CD@OREXCHANGE03.radisys.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:30:36 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <48DCD463-F739-4FD2-80FB-80758FA3A522@yegin.org> References: <787D809CF5669445A754E39453EE771C1137CD@OREXCHANGE03.radisys.com> To: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:4eYCTFcKmUGEjtNmbZ2pUls0xZl3tGPKZral2j4lJ91 1reW15tutj6Zf+kB2XZpYYDfO1zcRaNUpWVqPNZ2rC+kwdD7xw QbZX12+HfrLw1Q3aqcj10cSrZLMbt0TUBAsevTA8tJTMzooeR3 PWLUDE+w3+x0RRlIMKeNApq3L58S4z04kQNUDIPSqVnZhY9npS LVmd/es8oTi+HJdzpx0GgLkX1cQvMBOG6zdr8IEATSZ9noJmRO CIdKbHXcZuDiILhCufk4/xBYeHH4U/GrAfu5+xSxI8IYL/Hy7Z GnEnTt7LqoI9xS9ZPoYssrAMMttheg7waSYDWsCzh6aRTWTOQp ZjM5F4fNQstx/3c5lzXR2B77RafGiNfiwKgfXWYVU Subject: [82attendees] looking for a social ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:30:44 -0000 Hello, I'm looking for a social ticket. If you are considering to sell, please = let me know. Cheers, Alper From smb@cs.columbia.edu Mon Nov 14 21:31:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F9C11E80F2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:31:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kobfwcS-99mR for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from brinza.cc.columbia.edu (brinza.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6F611E8073 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from sb-far.cs.columbia.edu (sb-far.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.13.244]) (user=smb2132 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by brinza.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAF5VOSB003118 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:31:27 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Steven Bellovin In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:31:23 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1B79DA11-ACB2-420D-A24E-4ECE2B30B84C@cs.columbia.edu> References: To: Joel Jaeggli X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.8 Cc: "Charles E. Perkins" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:31:34 -0000 My room in the Hyatt has both 120V and (explicitly labeled) 220V outlets; the latter are equipped with "universal" holes that accept US, British, and European plugs. I've plugged assorted laptop and USB power supplies into all of them, not caring much which I used for what; it's all just worked. On Nov 14, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > there is no 220v power on consumer outlets in this country. > -- > Joel Jaeggli > > Network Engineering > +1.541.513.4095 > jjaeggli@zynga.com > > > > > On 11/15/11 11:27 , "Charles E. Perkins" > wrote: > >> >> Hello folks, >> >> It could be a random failure, but my (non-USB) adapter has >> stopped working in the IETF rooms. No smoke or fire, but it >> _seems_ to be shorting out and sucking all the power from >> the other connected power strips. Perhaps the power strips >> are 220V and my adapter has started to fail on 220V supply. >> The adapter does work in my room (110V), thank goodness. >> >> Regards, >> Charlie P. >> >> >> On 11/14/2011 7:19 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: >>> On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Luke B wrote: >>>> It is possible they are not popped. In my room, if you turn off the >>>> Master light switch on the console with all the buttons it also turns >>>> off some outlets. Make sure you have Master& Room turned on, and your >>>> Key in the socket thingy near the door. >>> >>> I wish that were so, but the loud pops and smoke serve as a clue that >>> your theory is too optimistic. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 82attendees mailing list >>> 82attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb From bzeeb+ietf@zabbadoz.net Mon Nov 14 21:40:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022E911E8260 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:40:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GfuTXaCmxqux for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.sbone.de (mx1.sbone.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:130:3ffc::401:25]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C322511E8298 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sbone.de (mail.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAB2425D386D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C49EEBD4EBE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:39:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sbone.de Received: from mail.sbone.de ([IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:587]) by content-filter.sbone.de (content-filter.sbone.de [fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:2742]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iYKU1JMsF6ab for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nv.sbone.de (nv.sbone.de [IPv6:fde9:577b:c1a9:31::2013:138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.sbone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D3761BD4EBD for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:39:31 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" To: 82attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x14003F198FEFA3E77207EE8D2B58B8F83CCF1842 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [82attendees] being energy friendly during the meeting days? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:40:28 -0000 Hi, you wanna be more energy friendly during the meeting days? Don't step on the white "play buttons" on red carpets but make a short jump or walk around them in the TICC if you can. -- If you cannot or do not want to then please wait until the person in front of you is off if (s)he had decided to. Bjoern PS: if this puzzles you then you probably have figured out teleportation;-) -- Bjoern A. Zeeb You have to have visions! Stop bit received. Insert coin for new address family. From mellon@fugue.com Mon Nov 14 21:44:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6495C1F0C98 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:44:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.038 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.038 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.166, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SLO-C8V3M517 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F271F0C38 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.13.155] (unknown [122.147.240.7]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0D56D2381837; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:36:00 -0500 (EST) References: <1B79DA11-ACB2-420D-A24E-4ECE2B30B84C@cs.columbia.edu> In-Reply-To: <1B79DA11-ACB2-420D-A24E-4ECE2B30B84C@cs.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:36:28 +0800 To: Steven Bellovin Cc: "Charles E. Perkins" , Joel Jaeggli , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:44:38 -0000 On Nov 15, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote: > My room in the Hyatt has both 120V and (explicitly labeled) 220V > outlets; the latter are equipped with "universal" holes that accept > US, British, and European plugs. I've plugged assorted laptop and > USB power supplies into all of them, not caring much which I used > for what; it's all just worked. That's the setup in the Shangri-La as well. I suspect that there's somethi= ng about the way the outlet works that's slightly out of spec=E2=80=94I didn= 't have trouble with my USB power supplies in Prague, which IIRC is 220v. Interestingly, my Apple iPad power supply has been happily cranking along in= one of the other receptacles of the same outlet. Unfortunately I didn't r= ealize that I was having a problem until it was too late to carefully observ= e whether or not the "bad" outlet would pop the iPad supply, and since it's w= orking I'm just leaving it where it is and not risking it. I'm experiencin= g a severe power vacuum at the moment with only one power supply. From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 14 21:55:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADF611E809A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:55:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.441 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.441 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.158, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UgRdb3wSF36o for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-1.cisco.com (mtv-iport-1.cisco.com [173.36.130.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A61C11E8085 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:55:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=1331; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321336516; x=1322546116; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=+lAZj02fxmOw87yEsyp3hxUj6GtZJ9NN+bOZEzhVtJE=; b=GhqiAK9U1x+wUdWrzOty39IPBEzPFTgTyY4dT9g8FuWzdyeaA39RjvLK SQhjwWv0PXe1/ErGIBJww2O+PqHryuVYn4sa/VxpP9pv8GKShIGFJ2Axc 3aNe5CFCKdVhrWrCVThnau5CqxE1vzVGq7/6OAG4GeetQpOZ48VDEtkwO 4=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av8EACj+wU6rRDoI/2dsb2JhbABBA4UBpGiBBYFyAQEBAwESAQIBDVYQCw40AgJXBhMih2CccAGDLg8BiRuSL4ZqggSBFgSIEZZrh08 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,513,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="12558657" Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by mtv-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2011 05:55:16 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com (sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com [10.21.84.201]) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAF5tF0J026948; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:55:15 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:55:15 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1B79DA11-ACB2-420D-A24E-4ECE2B30B84C@cs.columbia.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-739025132-1321336515=:20105" Cc: "Charles E. Perkins" , Joel Jaeggli , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Steven Bellovin Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:55:17 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-739025132-1321336515=:20105 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Of course purchasing a NEW power supply is easy here... Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Ted Lemon wrote: > > That's the setup in the Shangri-La as well. I suspect that there's > something about the way the outlet works that's slightly out of > spec—I didn't have trouble with my USB power supplies in Prague, > which IIRC is 220v. > > Interestingly, my Apple iPad power supply has been happily cranking > along in one of the other receptacles of the same outlet. > Unfortunately I didn't realize that I was having a problem until it > was too late to carefully observe whether or not the "bad" outlet > would pop the iPad supply, and since it's working I'm just leaving > it where it is and not risking it. I'm experiencing a severe power > vacuum at the moment with only one power supply. > --0-739025132-1321336515=:20105-- From mellon@fugue.com Mon Nov 14 22:05:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF7111E81EA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:05:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.752 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.752 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.847, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hzdDAcyp9+KS for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:05:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0D711E825D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:05:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.13.155] (unknown [122.147.240.7]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 145392381C89; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:05:10 -0500 (EST) References: <1B79DA11-ACB2-420D-A24E-4ECE2B30B84C@cs.columbia.edu> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 14:05:39 +0800 To: Ole Jacobsen Cc: "Charles E. Perkins" , Joel Jaeggli , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Steven Bellovin Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:05:15 -0000 On Nov 15, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > Of course purchasing a NEW power supply is easy here... Yup, it popped in less than a minute. :( The trick is to purchase one and have it keep working, I think... :) From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 14 22:07:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 019AC21F8CF1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:07:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.444 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.444 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.155, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wImUFEx9jOD0 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:07:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E9921F8CF0 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:07:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=645; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321337238; x=1322546838; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=bZRf3WLUE1aDbyWtEImU+WCOkYUzJDd9dxXKzxE3uMQ=; b=LQfbJ9tHQlmPUB8m9ANj86mDN2nXn0b0kDgvI+QK0jllISd4UIoZyed4 qFcj94+XBp6Mwz51wFoXyfr3Xy3lmCNA8uAGiT5X9dEksSxmYnhFSArYK fO1zoL7y2asWaZZgGRVuOZGW8pAYcWayMVSZ+t84QSg1Vxytzddy0L+CU M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EACoBwk6rRDoG/2dsb2JhbABBA6lpgQWBcgEBAQMBEgECASQ/BQsLDgouVwYTIodgnF8Bgy4PAZtKhmqDGgSIEZZrh08 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,513,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="14319764" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2011 06:07:18 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com (sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com [10.21.84.201]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAF67HkT005892; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:07:17 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:07:17 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Ted Lemon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1B79DA11-ACB2-420D-A24E-4ECE2B30B84C@cs.columbia.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "Charles E. Perkins" , Joel Jaeggli , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Steven Bellovin Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:07:19 -0000 Avoid any GROUNDED outlets, and I think you should be fine (speaking from years of experience travelling in Asia). Ole Ole J. 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--f46d043be12ab60e4d04b1bfd7a5-- From smb@cs.columbia.edu Mon Nov 14 22:11:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1032611E8291 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:11:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S-Nh26qIUg81 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:11:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from brinza.cc.columbia.edu (brinza.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C233E11E8292 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from sb-far.cs.columbia.edu (sb-far.cs.columbia.edu [128.59.13.244]) (user=smb2132 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by brinza.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAF6BEJT029119 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:11:18 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Steven Bellovin In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:11:13 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <299A3032-D944-4C64-BAA9-F8B6FC0BB91A@cs.columbia.edu> References: <1B79DA11-ACB2-420D-A24E-4ECE2B30B84C@cs.columbia.edu> To: Ole Jacobsen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.8 Cc: "Charles E. Perkins" , Joel Jaeggli , Ted Lemon , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:11:49 -0000 How would that affect a two-prong plug? I can see that there might be a = problem if there was a significant potential difference between the neutral and = ground pins, but I don't see how a two-prong outlet could have any clue? Coupling = between the neutral and ground leads changing the potential difference between = the hot and neutral plugs? (I"ve been using the three-wire cord quite happily with my Mac; should I = switch back to the two-pin folding plug? On Nov 15, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: >=20 > Avoid any GROUNDED outlets, and I think you should be fine (speaking=20= > from years of experience travelling in Asia). >=20 > Ole >=20 >=20 > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > Skype: organdemo >=20 >=20 > On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Ted Lemon wrote: >=20 >> On Nov 15, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: >>> Of course purchasing a NEW power supply is easy here... >>=20 >> Yup, it popped in less than a minute. :( >>=20 >> The trick is to purchase one and have it keep working, I think... :) >>=20 >>=20 >=20 --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb From Antoin.Verschuren@sidn.nl Mon Nov 14 22:47:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CD6C21F877F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:47:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.015 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.015 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CQw2GlH1e5IQ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ede1-kamx.sidn.nl (kamx.sidn.nl [94.198.152.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F18721F86AA for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from kahubcas1.SIDN.local ([192.168.2.41]) by ede1-kamx.sidn.nl with ESMTP id pAF6labq024633 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=CAFAIL) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:47:36 +0100 Received: from KAMBX2.SIDN.local ([fe80::b1fd:88d9:e136:9655]) by kahubcas1.SIDN.local ([fe80::dff:8232:1563:3a16%14]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:47:36 +0100 From: Antoin Verschuren To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Need social ticket Thread-Index: AcyjYnU1i0LPxikFQo+uBt9n0Begzg== Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:47:35 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: nl-NL, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <77817DDA3A91794BBC36304C8577DA0A@sidn.nl> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [82attendees] Need social ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:47:39 -0000 Mail or text me: +31623368970 Antoin Verschuren Technical policy advisor SIDN Meander 501, PO Box 5022, 6802 EA Arnhem, The Netherlands P: +31 26 3525500 F: +31 26 3525505 M: +31 6 23368970 mailto:antoin.verschuren@sidn.nl xmpp:antoin@jabber.sidn.nl http://www.sidn= .nl This message was sent from my phone, so appologies for the bevity.= From dxhbupt@gmail.com Mon Nov 14 22:49:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF58021F8B1A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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--f46d043be12a1d4ca404b1c064af-- From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 14 22:50:13 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1363421F8B1A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:50:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.447 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.447 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.152, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xYw2Ls99joHV for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:50:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C0321F8B15 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:50:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=948; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321339812; x=1322549412; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=wylDVOg4cckXQFV6kPhllMv4K1WUvPsX3FEAi+5vm0w=; b=Dvt+qnNYk5zDhbMmMwgemZB3/DskDa1uKuNLiV9IH2hWS5J0fwPFPmC6 E2P74DoyeuTOXqSD90hBRxOnJqHab27GZU5D1XhXcuLIr9T7DwkJR+uuN AvQHUtFc33rXsDWWrQJYFqvB49laxSWypmjvDr6SaFx6B1uZWwTnTu4SL I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EAJMKwk6rRDoJ/2dsb2JhbABAAw6pW4EFgXIBAQEDARIBAgEkPwULCw44VwYTIodgnDcBgy4PAZtGhmqDGgSIEZZrhndY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,513,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="14327054" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2011 06:49:14 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com (sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com [10.21.84.201]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAF6nEd4020001; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:49:14 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:49:13 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Steven Bellovin In-Reply-To: <299A3032-D944-4C64-BAA9-F8B6FC0BB91A@cs.columbia.edu> Message-ID: References: <1B79DA11-ACB2-420D-A24E-4ECE2B30B84C@cs.columbia.edu> <299A3032-D944-4C64-BAA9-F8B6FC0BB91A@cs.columbia.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "Charles E. Perkins" , Joel Jaeggli , Ted Lemon , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:50:13 -0000 I meant, grounded 3-prong plugs. I've seen cases where the ground outlet is not-so-neutral etc. or where the dangling ground-pin hangs over the local adapter and touches (arcs) to the socket. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Tue, 15 Nov 2011, Steven Bellovin wrote: > How would that affect a two-prong plug? I can see that there might be a problem > if there was a significant potential difference between the neutral and ground pins, > but I don't see how a two-prong outlet could have any clue? Coupling between > the neutral and ground leads changing the potential difference between the > hot and neutral plugs? > > (I"ve been using the three-wire cord quite happily with my Mac; should I switch > back to the two-pin folding plug? > From tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Mon Nov 14 22:50:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3A311E80CF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:50:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.697, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R65C6H3o9dP8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:50:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D334311E8094 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:50:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (localhost.ecs.soton.ac.uk [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAF6oN3k026401 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:50:23 GMT X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk pAF6oN3k026401 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=ecs.soton.ac.uk; s=200903; t=1321339823; bh=xaGg2j03EsGxARGKu4kOLzLtk/s=; h=Subject:References:From:In-Reply-To:Date:To:Mime-Version; b=c9W/PpyCDpai5L+Yi5f4xM/zRwGfxyb4a/8kQBR0jzolo7AVxDuc4SryRb5jGhZt7 5qTbh/r25fC41eB5g5Hr/DFVMvOvRJ24vtU2RAtih7RipHbbO84kK5EDGhRD12NWlL jO16K8tC1igeUrZii7epw7pSkdB4mndWXd5lFBPo= Received: from gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk ([2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:401]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:68da]) envelope-from with ESMTP id nAE6oN0543760371wW ret-id none; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:50:23 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::8:e064:151c:a271:889c] ([IPv6:2001:df8:0:8:e064:151c:a271:889c]) (authenticated bits=0) by gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAF6n21Q000798 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:49:05 GMT References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A9EA@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <89C2C66E-0EB9-4179-9DC3-406BD572C407@ecs.soton.ac.uk> From: Tim Chown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A9EA@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:49:00 +0000 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-smtpf-Report: sid=nAE6oN054376037100; tid=nAE6oN0543760371wW; client=relay,forged,no_ptr,ipv6; mail=; rcpt=; nrcpt=1:0; fails=0 X-ECS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ECS-MailScanner-ID: pAF6oN3k026401 X-ECS-MailScanner-From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:50:30 -0000 On 14 Nov 2011, at 20:23, wrote: > This is how I got there: > I turned right after exiting the Shangri-la, hotel, then passed by one 7/1= 1, and the store was just across the street from the second 7/11. > Google is not the only searching tool. If nothing else, ask the concierge i= n the Shangri-la, that's how I found it. >=20 > On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Maaz Rehan wrote: >=20 >> Hi All, >>=20 >> Can anybody, Local here, can guide where is the Market for Toys and Elect= ronics? There is a ToyLand one floor down in the 101 building. Not looked inside, so= no idea if it sells much local stuff or not. Tim= From ole@cisco.com Mon Nov 14 23:25:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C2E11E81A2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:25:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.449 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.449 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Nuu8V7gA+PgF for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:25:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-1.cisco.com (mtv-iport-1.cisco.com [173.36.130.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A6411E81A3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:25:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=ole@cisco.com; l=802; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321341926; x=1322551526; h=date:from:reply-to:to:subject:message-id:mime-version; bh=IwSefnwhNCJEnLuLo/x0I4cQ72bwxsGIQbWilja+egY=; b=UT+Y3uzGAwnytZjqt+i7fxv2sSCkTOXnEIqTYBSXdj5E8tLNbOAGuHFk oHz9224hwgou5QIrb4U/b6zo+Quu4rbNfZZ4BmlJ6Jbv0V+VfnIsbmb2K dIh7IZRIKz7NGT1wn2EDR+KO7PZrpXDbZ/xHQLjJd5gC9Sr0fO8yg8hzt M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlEHACgTwk6rRDoI/2dsb2JhbABAA6lpfgeCCwECASSBfRMiomuBJgGDLg8Bm0qGaoMaBIgRlmuHTw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,513,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="12572204" Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by mtv-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2011 07:25:26 +0000 Received: from sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com (sjc-vpn4-1226.cisco.com [10.21.84.201]) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAF7PQhZ005023 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:25:26 GMT Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:25:26 -0800 (PST) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [82attendees] Directions for walking to the social X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:25:27 -0000 1. Exit the front entrance of TICC (with the silver sculpture behind you) 2. Look to your LEFT along the road that bends around the TICC: The next building on that road is the World Trade Center, a 33-floor tower that has a square footprint. That's the place. Take the elevator to floor 33, don't forget your social ticket. I am sure some kind sould will put this on the wiki complete with GPS coordinates and multi colored maps if they have not already. The description of the event includes the words "unlimited drinks," that could be interesting. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo From kvreddy@cisco.com Mon Nov 14 23:43:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3DF711E81E5 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:43:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3BjP-775noEk for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-2.cisco.com (ams-iport-2.cisco.com [144.254.224.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 162DF11E8096 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:43:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=kvreddy@cisco.com; l=2256; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321343020; x=1322552620; h=mime-version:subject:date:message-id:from:to; bh=vvgQy47FvlPsTpqDzEhPoP738yIQkrnSgYi8MCSj6og=; b=H4nHj+DiCp4tAPX85tJbhZxayuiE9CdAPgo8vx+K57Ojxh3PF8VqyLnD ODrjrKmI2wWhWjUhbekYE51SsYLZ6pcmyhGQMuaWvnNhJ2NiO26wFv1W9 uE290a0ymW6DKatwOgvsIz8yMx5MJPFLfUt5hfIUuc/jFRgi9/9vN/koy Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai4GACUXwk5Io8UT/2dsb2JhbABDgk2fQYU6giKBBYF0AQQSAQkRA1sBDB4GGAdXAQQLEBqie4EmAZ8Fhm+CMmMEiA+RZYw+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,513,1315180800"; d="scan'208,217";a="59864711" Received: from bgl-core-4.cisco.com ([72.163.197.19]) by ams-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2011 07:43:38 +0000 Received: from xbh-bgl-411.cisco.com (xbh-bgl-411.cisco.com [72.163.129.201]) by bgl-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAF7hcMR000450 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:43:38 GMT Received: from xmb-bgl-417.cisco.com ([72.163.129.213]) by xbh-bgl-411.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:13:38 +0530 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CCA36A.49B8DAC4" Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 13:13:37 +0530 Message-ID: <04BD913C7AD1B84297D26D5614FBE133057ABF5C@XMB-BGL-417.cisco.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Need Social Event Ticket Thread-Index: Acyjakj2vFfy8fe5Slypb80zoH3AhQ== From: "Kasu Venkat Reddy (kvreddy)" To: <82attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2011 07:43:38.0722 (UTC) FILETIME=[49D15C20:01CCA36A] Subject: [82attendees] Need Social Event Ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:43:41 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA36A.49B8DAC4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pls mail me or Text me :+91-9972309800 =20 Regards, Kasu ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA36A.49B8DAC4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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[130.129.19.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u10sm22664189anj.6.2011.11.14.23.46.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:47:00 -0800 (PST) References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> <67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747@ATLEXCH02.nivis.com> <431713A8-EE9E-4080-A8A1-39F135F410E1@fugue.com> <5A18A04C-924C-4DB7-B464-E13C471AF75D@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: <5A18A04C-924C-4DB7-B464-E13C471AF75D@fugue.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Message-Id: <618FC5F4-C0A5-4792-9D54-70A23D4953E9@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Arturo Servin Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 15:47:44 +0800 To: Ted Lemon Cc: Paul Coverdale , "<82attendees@ietf.org>" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:47:02 -0000 I am in banquet 3f and after connected my USB charger to the socket bar it s= parkled and the magic smoke came out (from the bar, not my charged). Not sur= e if my USB charger is still working. I will try to report so others do not follow the same faith. as Sent from my mobile device (please excuse typoss and brevit.) On 15 Nov 2011, at 12:26, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Paul Coverdale wrot= e: >> Was it the same outlet that fried both power supplies? Which one? I=E2=80= =99m also staying at the Shangri-La. >=20 > Two different outlets in my room.=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From tlyu@mit.edu Mon Nov 14 23:48:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8481F0C47 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:48:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IdyBnM7IfozS for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:48:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (DMZ-MAILSEC-SCANNER-3.MIT.EDU [18.9.25.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F771F0CC6 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:48:08 -0800 (PST) X-AuditID: 1209190e-b7f4a6d0000008e5-e3-4ec219386be4 Received: from mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu ( [18.7.62.39]) by dmz-mailsec-scanner-3.mit.edu (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 9E.B6.02277.83912CE4; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:48:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (OUTGOING-AUTH.MIT.EDU [18.7.22.103]) by mailhub-auth-4.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id pAF7m6p9014631; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:48:07 -0500 Received: from cathode-dark-space.mit.edu (CATHODE-DARK-SPACE.MIT.EDU [18.18.1.96]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as tlyu@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.6/8.12.4) with ESMTP id pAF7m3W0029604 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:48:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from tlyu@localhost) by cathode-dark-space.mit.edu (8.12.9.20060308) id pAF7m29i029441; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:48:02 -0500 (EST) To: Ted Lemon References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> <67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747@ATLEXCH02.nivis.com> <431713A8-EE9E-4080-A8A1-39F135F410E1@fugue.com> <5A18A04C-924C-4DB7-B464-E13C471AF75D@fugue.com> From: Tom Yu Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:48:02 -0500 In-Reply-To: <5A18A04C-924C-4DB7-B464-E13C471AF75D@fugue.com> (Ted Lemon's message of "Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:26:58 +0800") Message-ID: Lines: 17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprBKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6nrmshecjP4PJnFosLc1awWsx5+YbR 4s2aI0wOzB5NF5axeyxZ8pPJY3VZAHMUl01Kak5mWWqRvl0CV8bVA7vYCl6zVRy++oatgfEY axcjJ4eEgInEtQtz2SFsMYkL99azdTFycQgJ7GOU2PShmwUkISSwgVHi7/cKiMQVJome6f+Y IZwuRomr126AjRIRUJCYe2YNE4jNLJAqse/PYrC4sIChxI1vfewQDXeZJLZdaQbq5uBgE5CW OLq4DKSGRUBV4s6sv2DbOAUqJKZfn80EUsIrYCHR1iQPEuYR4JQ4OXMrG4jNKyAIZD9hgVil IbHu+2soW1ti2cLXzBMYhWYhKZuFpGwWkrIFjMyrGGVTcqt0cxMzc4pTk3WLkxPz8lKLdI31 cjNL9FJTSjcxggKdU5JvB+PXg0qHGAU4GJV4eBXCD/oJsSaWFVfmHmKU5GBSEuV9L3LIT4gv KT+lMiOxOCO+qDQntfgQowQHs5IIb8dJoHLelMTKqtSifJiUNAeLkjjv6h0OfkIC6Yklqdmp qQWpRTBZGQ4OJQnetRJAQwWLUtNTK9Iyc0oQ0kwcnCDDeYCG3wep4S0uSMwtzkyHyJ9i1OVY d6X5NKMQS15+XqoU0BoBoCIBkKKM0jy4ObAE9YpRHOgtYd4FIKN4gMkNbtIroCVMQEvWHjwA sqQkESEl1cBo+Hd6VPRrXzPt5+6nNm53at1V13Vr7kNTb+V/3IoL7hotvXWQe4J/tmjhR530 6N1izzdZd3q0z1x23cTk3r6PTHw+U7+362wQetZZLVTV4nc9V92K4/c2ibfvfnXGFXBcnbzn 4ymNMIkw967LTzf9v1L9br6QYq7+9NNnWBRrfSL5Gba0qV1SYinOSDTUYi4qTgQAwR5ePCsD AAA= Cc: Paul Coverdale , "<82attendees@ietf.org>" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:48:10 -0000 Ted Lemon writes: > On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:55 AM, Paul Coverdale wro= te: >> Was it the same outlet that fried both power supplies? Which one? I=A1= =AFm also staying at the Shangri-La. > > Two different outlets in my room.=20 Are they both "universal" outlets? It may be that they're out of spec, but mechanically rather than electrically, due to people jamming all sorts of different shapes of plugs into them and deforming the contacts. Did the plug feel loose in the outlet? Switching power supplies don't really tolerate brief interruptions of mains power (much shorter than one second) such as you might get from intermittent contact with an outlet. Impulse noise from arcing in the outlet during these "dirty" interruption events probably doesn't help. (I have found this out the hard way before.) From alastair.johnson@alcatel-lucent.com Mon Nov 14 23:57:18 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AEF1F0D0C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:57:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JDvPa270v5UM for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:57:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from smail2.alcatel.fr (smail2.alcatel.fr [64.208.49.57]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE161F0CFF for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:57:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com (FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com [135.120.45.61]) by smail2.alcatel.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/ICT) with ESMTP id pAF7uBw4031362 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:56:57 +0100 Received: from FRMRSSXCHMBSA1X.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.66]) by FRMRSSXCHHUB01.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.120.45.61]) with mapi; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:56:38 +0100 From: "JOHNSON, ALASTAIR (ALASTAIR)" To: Arturo Servin , Ted Lemon Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:56:32 +0100 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? Thread-Index: AcyjasvzG9yNnaCfSTGXRv2jrK4/aAAATGxA Message-ID: References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> <67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747@ATLEXCH02.nivis.com> <431713A8-EE9E-4080-A8A1-39F135F410E1@fugue.com> <5A18A04C-924C-4DB7-B464-E13C471AF75D@fugue.com> <618FC5F4-C0A5-4792-9D54-70A23D4953E9@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <618FC5F4-C0A5-4792-9D54-70A23D4953E9@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.69 on 155.132.188.80 Cc: Paul Coverdale , "<82attendees@ietf.org>" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? 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X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:07:46 -0000 On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Steven Bellovin wrote: >=20 > On Nov 14, 2011, at 10:19 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: >=20 >> On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Luke B wrote: >>> It is possible they are not popped. In my room, if you turn off the = Master light switch on the console with all the buttons it also turns = off some outlets. Make sure you have Master & Room turned on, and your = Key in the socket thingy near the door. >>=20 >> I wish that were so, but the loud pops and smoke serve as a clue that = your theory is too optimistic. >=20 > Yah -- when you let the magic smoke out of a gadget, it rarely works = well afterwards. They should *so* sell replacement magic smoke, preferably in a small = aerosol can, but a can and brush would work ok too=85 E >=20 >=20 > --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 From mellon@fugue.com Tue Nov 15 00:09:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B3411E8114 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:09:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nTqCkvFTHzuC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:09:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B93911E8103 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:09:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.86.106] (dhcp-566a.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.86.106]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0642A2381CA1; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:09:34 -0500 (EST) References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> <67442429D9C35E4C975B89BE73BD33D01A171F1747@ATLEXCH02.nivis.com> <431713A8-EE9E-4080-A8A1-39F135F410E1@fugue.com> <5A18A04C-924C-4DB7-B464-E13C471AF75D@fugue.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <0774AC2B-82BF-4D99-A504-19FF29CF95FB@fugue.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:10:02 +0800 To: Tom Yu Cc: Paul Coverdale , "<82attendees@ietf.org>" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:09:36 -0000 On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Tom Yu wrote: > Are they both "universal" outlets? It may be that they're out of > spec, but mechanically rather than electrically, due to people jamming > all sorts of different shapes of plugs into them and deforming the > contacts. Did the plug feel loose in the outlet? Interesting. Yes, it's quite floppy. It hadn't occurred to me that it might= be an intermittent contact.=20= From mellon@fugue.com Tue Nov 15 00:10:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D82811E812F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:10:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V-GbRIDNOrYI for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED7E11E808C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.86.106] (dhcp-566a.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.86.106]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DDF262381CA1; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 03:10:56 -0500 (EST) References: <8E27032B-5A55-4EC0-BA04-A80FAF420AD6@fugue.com> <0D7C1EDF-BD05-4888-AED6-FFD12129214C@fugue.com> <9D4AAEAD-929A-409B-8823-A24B20C12FF0@cs.columbia.edu> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <4CE1886F-E2EA-4C63-9167-208620A61DC5@fugue.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:11:25 +0800 To: Warren Kumari Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Luke B , Steven Bellovin Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:10:58 -0000 On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:07 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > They should *so* sell replacement magic smoke, preferably in a small aeros= ol can, but a can and brush would work ok too You'd also need conduit sealant and possibly a small drill to ream out fused= channels.=20= From humbertogaliza@gmail.com Tue Nov 15 00:32:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B16321F8D92 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:32:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wLcO7Yt+Irsp for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756A021F8DAC for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so873819bkb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:32:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/cJlhwgGq+8KikE7vsk5EpsCFHBO6GwOqcDHI9vNtZE=; b=J0bZiqA2GeWMT8aXW7hmE4fGrL6hWUtOzYpjdJ7BUfAjKHQvDBV5UGgQazeLLLd8en gT3ZNau6d/QK5nSo3cQbrva236KJr240M5m2YceOnW6kVN7tZCsu/mGwYYjrJWHfRzbH 1KGFbTHQoUxavxy7o6WFjZSxzY+9u/gtPBRAE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.157.154 with SMTP id b26mr15779441bkx.52.1321345928436; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:32:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.124.19 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:32:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:32:08 +0800 Message-ID: From: Humberto Galiza To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:32:11 -0000 Hi folks, There is something that I'd like to ask for those who lives in USA: the one hundred dollar bill of 1981 is still valid? I'm quite surprised because I tried to exchange it at the airport, but they refused. I almost ran out of Taiwanese money :( So, I tried to get some information googling and I've found some divergent information. http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=17412 Anyone could help me? Thanks in advance, Galiza From fred@cisco.com Tue Nov 15 00:42:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD6F21F8FA7 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:42:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -107.713 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-107.713 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.114, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZTCllRBEjeB2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:42:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-4.cisco.com (ams-iport-4.cisco.com [144.254.224.147]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952BA21F8FA2 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:42:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fred@cisco.com; l=1019; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321346558; x=1322556158; h=subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id: references:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=opDkrWpzq604Bi6Ul3sALejlMCRdJKmalFZp7ikiizQ=; b=ce0szzIE131+ts2kv8B49Umtn3cWCwr+VJl+iSMLvx+iTzdq98Fm7XkN ZCv6Xx12WkTWuiFj5cu+ZSDuXo8lfyCL209hi4vizPPJC4LytSDECxxSY E6PvR8NhA+om5M/m4s0SBI2GsOkBbeE1KetKOruY9CfUwjUHDXKFPZ9PF w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EADMlwk5Io8UR/2dsb2JhbABDqWqBBYFyAQEBAwEBAQEPAScwBAsFCwtGJzAGEyKHYAicOQGfCIkhYwSID4whhTuMTA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,513,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="3092781" Received: from bgl-core-2.cisco.com ([72.163.197.17]) by ams-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2011 08:42:35 +0000 Received: from dhcp-4466.meeting.ietf.org (hkidc-vpn-client-234-17.cisco.com [10.75.234.17]) by bgl-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAF8gYSG000770; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:42:34 GMT Received: from [127.0.0.1] by dhcp-4466.meeting.ietf.org (PGP Universal service); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:42:34 +0800 X-PGP-Universal: processed; by dhcp-4466.meeting.ietf.org on Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:42:34 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Fred Baker In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:42:24 +0800 Message-Id: <485A634A-B98D-4249-AD4A-3DB47A6BB0E0@cisco.com> References: To: Humberto Galiza X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:42:40 -0000 Assuming it's not a forgery, yes, it's legal tender in the US. That = said, larger notes are sometimes not accepted because of concerns that = they may be forged notes. I would presume that the exchange you used has = a policy of not accepting them for that reason. On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Humberto Galiza wrote: > Hi folks, >=20 > There is something that I'd like to ask for those who lives in USA: > the one hundred dollar bill of 1981 is still valid? > I'm quite surprised because I tried to exchange it at the airport, but > they refused. I almost ran out of Taiwanese money :( >=20 > So, I tried to get some information googling and I've found some > divergent information. > = http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=3Dtrue&TOPIC_ID=3D174= 12 >=20 > Anyone could help me? >=20 > Thanks in advance, >=20 > Galiza > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From humbertogaliza@gmail.com Tue Nov 15 01:04:15 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93FAA21F8E79 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:04:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M8-MYm2CMOgR for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:04:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E0521F8F77 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so908354bkb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:04:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9HG447MTINpV6dcJFjP6nd5ifW6/qJXupGeymVreoZ4=; b=qttj8POUA+Qxpje4DM1j8mSglNT/X+5hnVTCR/HXqBlMrHjOkW1v0pa4j88B01TjRb 9v7/ryYhaMUCq/rdZLex3+E427tIZG8BDiEaEhFKts/85pMaMh0ymk/us1vli7P7ROJd m9NuFHseqVGkGKmaJZhGcni/4ij3U0bBBOKVc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.157.154 with SMTP id b26mr15899579bkx.52.1321347852927; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.124.19 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:04:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <485A634A-B98D-4249-AD4A-3DB47A6BB0E0@cisco.com> References: <485A634A-B98D-4249-AD4A-3DB47A6BB0E0@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:04:12 +0800 Message-ID: From: Humberto Galiza To: Fred Baker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:04:15 -0000 Thanks for the answer Fred! I suppose that the Citibank near from here should accept it. Anyone here has tried to exchange currency there? Any experience share? Cheers, Galiza 2011/11/15 Fred Baker : > Assuming it's not a forgery, yes, it's legal tender in the US. That said,= larger notes are sometimes not accepted because of concerns that they may = be forged notes. I would presume that the exchange you used has a policy of= not accepting them for that reason. > > On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Humberto Galiza wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> There is something that I'd like to ask for those who lives in USA: >> the one hundred dollar bill of 1981 is still valid? >> I'm quite surprised because I tried to exchange it at the airport, but >> they refused. I almost ran out of Taiwanese money :( >> >> So, I tried to get some information googling and I've found some >> divergent information. >> http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=3Dtrue&TOPIC_ID=3D1= 7412 >> >> Anyone could help me? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Galiza >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > From dhc@dcrocker.net Tue Nov 15 01:05:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1300621F8FC4 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:05:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fyRgcxj9JJis for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB1721F8FCD for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.82.22] (dhcp-5216.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.82.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAF9587P013330 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:05:17 -0800 Message-ID: <4EC22B42.6070908@dcrocker.net> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:05:06 +0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Humberto Galiza References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:05:19 -0800 (PST) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:05:22 -0000 On 11/15/2011 4:32 PM, Humberto Galiza wrote: > Hi folks, > > There is something that I'd like to ask for those who lives in USA: > the one hundred dollar bill of 1981 is still valid? > I'm quite surprised because I tried to exchange it at the airport, but > they refused. I almost ran out of Taiwanese money :( Both times I changed money, the rejected some of the 20s. One was a manual, visual process and the other was by a machine. The manual process rejected bills that had any writing on them or were from earlier than 2004. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From prvs=29327b893=jjaeggli@zynga.com Tue Nov 15 01:13:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986911F0C47 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:13:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.79 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.79 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.191, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q1qiugVM2aYO for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from c7-ip02.zynga.com (c7-ip02.zynga.com [72.5.237.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEB11F0C3C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:13:30 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received-SPF: Pass identity=mailfrom; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="postmaster@C7-EX-HUB01.corp.zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received: from c7-ex-hub01.corp.zynga.com ([172.16.100.13]) by c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2011 01:13:30 -0800 Received: from C7-EX-MB03.corp.zynga.com ([fe80::91f8:94d3:4c14:48cc]) by C7-EX-HUB01.corp.zynga.com ([fe80::5868:2b47:3c0e:c908%10]) with mapi; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:13:30 -0800 From: Joel Jaeggli To: Humberto Galiza , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:13:27 -0800 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport Thread-Index: AcyjdtcEs1p9J8WURLC/uM3IWGAJDg== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:13:33 -0000 it's entirely reasonable to reject old bills on the basis of their lack of modern anti-counterfit technology. The federal reserve on whom the obligation is drawn is unlikely to refuse it unless they can disprove it's authenticity. They've declined an offer to buy your dollars nothing unreasonable about that.=20 joel --=20 Joel Jaeggli=20 Network Engineering +1.541.513.4095 jjaeggli@zynga.com On 11/15/11 16:32 , "Humberto Galiza" wrote: >Hi folks, > >There is something that I'd like to ask for those who lives in USA: >the one hundred dollar bill of 1981 is still valid? >I'm quite surprised because I tried to exchange it at the airport, but >they refused. I almost ran out of Taiwanese money :( > >So, I tried to get some information googling and I've found some >divergent information. >http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=3Dtrue&TOPIC_ID=3D174= 12 > >Anyone could help me? > >Thanks in advance, > >Galiza >_______________________________________________ >82attendees mailing list >82attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From jukka.manner@aalto.fi Tue Nov 15 01:14:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DA821F8EE3 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:14:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ezh5ZM0P2dDP for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx06.aalto.fi (mx06.aalto.fi [130.233.222.105]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0FA21F8F80 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:13:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx06.aalto.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id DD04680A36 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:13:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from EXHUB01.org.aalto.fi (ex-hub01.org.aalto.fi [130.233.222.118]) by mx06.aalto.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id D040180A33 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:13:54 +0200 (EET) Received: from EXMDB04.org.aalto.fi ([169.254.1.248]) by EXHUB01.org.aalto.fi ([130.233.222.118]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:13:55 +0200 From: Manner Jukka To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport Thread-Index: AQHMo3WqLR5wvope30O4fiqwiAO61JWthVYA Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:13:54 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5339_1321347927_4EC22B57_5339_222_1_4EC22B42.6070908@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: <5339_1321347927_4EC22B57_5339_222_1_4EC22B42.6070908@dcrocker.net> Accept-Language: en-US, fi-FI Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [203.69.99.17] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <93FCB40CA22AFD4193AC5F28CC345E92@aalto.fi> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:14:02 -0000 When I looked for cash to bring to Taiwan, Forex (a Nordic currency exchang= e company) had on their web site in Finland, that 100 USD bills older than = 2003 are not accepted. Don't know why. Jukka On Nov 15, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 11/15/2011 4:32 PM, Humberto Galiza wrote: >> Hi folks, >>=20 >> There is something that I'd like to ask for those who lives in USA: >> the one hundred dollar bill of 1981 is still valid? >> I'm quite surprised because I tried to exchange it at the airport, but >> they refused. I almost ran out of Taiwanese money :( >=20 >=20 > Both times I changed money, the rejected some of the 20s. One was a manu= al, visual process and the other was by a machine. The manual process reje= cted bills that had any writing on them or were from earlier than 2004. >=20 > d/ >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Dave Crocker > Brandenburg InternetWorking > bbiw.net > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From dhc@dcrocker.net Tue Nov 15 01:17:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6034221F8F27 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:17:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Tfb9EYY7OJwO for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A083421F8D4D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.82.22] (dhcp-5216.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.82.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAF9HQJ1013802 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:17:35 -0800 Message-ID: <4EC22E24.5040108@dcrocker.net> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:17:24 +0800 From: Dave CROCKER Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Humberto Galiza References: <485A634A-B98D-4249-AD4A-3DB47A6BB0E0@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:17:37 -0800 (PST) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:17:39 -0000 On 11/15/2011 5:04 PM, Humberto Galiza wrote: > Thanks for the answer Fred! > > I suppose that the Citibank near from here should accept it. Anyone > here has tried to exchange currency there? Any experience share? I posted a note about them last week: they directed me elsewhere, saying it would be at least 90 minutes. HSBC, on the other hand, was pleasant and reasonably quick. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From touch@isi.edu Tue Nov 15 01:19:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D037E11E80AA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:19:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.919 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.919 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.320, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fb828DWOJtf6 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from darkstar.isi.edu (darkstar.isi.edu [128.9.128.127]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CEF21F8F68 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.66.136] (dhcp-4288.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.66.136]) (authenticated bits=0) by darkstar.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAF9J9Yu002935 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:19:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC22E8C.40105@isi.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:19:08 -0800 From: Joe Touch User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dcrocker@bbiw.net References: <4EC22B42.6070908@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: <4EC22B42.6070908@dcrocker.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Cc: Humberto Galiza , Dave CROCKER , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:19:51 -0000 FYI - it's still valid, however... The exchange counter in the airport talked about the difference between $20 bills in different serial number ranges (A, B, C, D) - where A and B were not accepted, but C and D were. Inside the US, all these MUST be accepted for debts ("legal tender"), e.g., if you already have a debt to be settled. However, it's entirely possible for a merchant to accept only dollar bills with even serial numbers for new purchases - i.e., it's a condition of setting up the debt in advance. Even in the US there are places that won't take $100 bills for new purchases, but if they don't mention the exclusion when you incur the debt, they HAVE to take it. Same goes for large bags of pennies, FWIW. Joe On 11/15/2011 1:05 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > > > On 11/15/2011 4:32 PM, Humberto Galiza wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> There is something that I'd like to ask for those who lives in USA: >> the one hundred dollar bill of 1981 is still valid? >> I'm quite surprised because I tried to exchange it at the airport, but >> they refused. I almost ran out of Taiwanese money :( > > > Both times I changed money, the rejected some of the 20s. One was a > manual, visual process and the other was by a machine. 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From: "Larry Kreeger" <kreeger@cisco.com>
To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>
Subject: [82attendees] Social ticket for sale
Date: Tue, Nov 15, 2011 17:21



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--_000_FF0374423EA24A79BA844B41789EC3BDrenesasmobilecom_-- From arifumi@nttv6.net Tue Nov 15 01:25:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB0011E8129 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:25:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.741 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.741 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.142, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tH4iwTHaSUoX for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from leo.nttv6.net (leo.nttv6.net [192.47.162.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4D111E8113 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.nttv6.net [127.0.0.1]) by leo.nttv6.net (8.14.5/8.14.4) with ESMTP id pAF9OOi7064495 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:24:24 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from arifumi@nttv6.net) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Arifumi Matsumoto In-Reply-To: <0D4CCDBC-C513-4D31-86BC-336DF0144134@nttv6.net> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:26:10 +0900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <639C20AE-1D75-4FF3-9A76-1E1708810A16@nttv6.net> References: <0D4CCDBC-C513-4D31-86BC-336DF0144134@nttv6.net> To: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Re: [82attendees] a social ticket available. X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:25:56 -0000 Sold ! Thanks. On 2011/11/15, at 18:20, Arifumi Matsumoto wrote: > Hi, > > please contact me, if you want one. > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From humbertogaliza@gmail.com Tue Nov 15 01:27:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1AF11E8124 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:27:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QYaDx8bTzzRH for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A90911E8113 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:27:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so932374bkb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:27:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hOQMwBSQPHc8y0DwAbXlJf27imN5fWtgb1BXTUtVgvM=; b=diNhEu56+LBOsiJOsPUeESNpMmGqAIaGlGPvv/YUE6itAmfTdTCYR01/3eCuAL2Uur zmiVZmq1O7g9DWkslO5Lk1IcNO3KS2z6mM0hgxFTQsd5MRUX5DL5kgX7jpDrSVjKGCy0 /bZ3SiqSJbQRYJ/E5fA9jr9mwIY/IliB2aPAg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.112.6 with SMTP id eq6mr23362552bkc.16.1321349248476; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.124.19 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:27:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EC22E8C.40105@isi.edu> References: <4EC22B42.6070908@dcrocker.net> <4EC22E8C.40105@isi.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:27:28 +0800 Message-ID: From: Humberto Galiza To: Joe Touch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Dave CROCKER , dcrocker@bbiw.net, 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:27:30 -0000 So, anyway I suppose that in last case I can do a deposit to my citibank account. I'm gonna try something to get rid of these dollar bills (but before someone ask, no, I won't throw it away) :) Thanks to all that replied. Cheers, Galiza Computer B.Sc. (UFBA) 2011/11/15 Joe Touch : > FYI - it's still valid, however... > > The exchange counter in the airport talked about the difference between $20 > bills in different serial number ranges (A, B, C, D) - where A and B were > not accepted, but C and D were. > > Inside the US, all these MUST be accepted for debts ("legal tender"), e.g., > if you already have a debt to be settled. However, it's entirely possible > for a merchant to accept only dollar bills with even serial numbers for new > purchases - i.e., it's a condition of setting up the debt in advance. > > Even in the US there are places that won't take $100 bills for new > purchases, but if they don't mention the exclusion when you incur the debt, > they HAVE to take it. Same goes for large bags of pennies, FWIW. > > Joe > > > On 11/15/2011 1:05 AM, Dave CROCKER wrote: >> >> >> On 11/15/2011 4:32 PM, Humberto Galiza wrote: >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> There is something that I'd like to ask for those who lives in USA: >>> the one hundred dollar bill of 1981 is still valid? >>> I'm quite surprised because I tried to exchange it at the airport, but >>> they refused. I almost ran out of Taiwanese money :( >> >> >> Both times I changed money, the rejected some of the 20s. One was a >> manual, visual process and the other was by a machine. The manual >> process rejected bills that had any writing on them or were from earlier >> than 2004. >> >> d/ >> > From prvs=29327b893=jjaeggli@zynga.com Tue Nov 15 01:34:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE67511E8124 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:34:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.758 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.758 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.159, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FwQQQ8qmDpCe for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from c7-ip02.zynga.com (c7-ip02.zynga.com [72.5.237.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FB5E11E8113 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:34:59 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received-SPF: Pass identity=mailfrom; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="postmaster@C7-EX-HUB01.corp.zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received: from c7-ex-hub01.corp.zynga.com ([172.16.100.13]) by c7-ip02.corp.zynga.com with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2011 01:34:59 -0800 Received: from C7-EX-MB03.corp.zynga.com ([fe80::91f8:94d3:4c14:48cc]) by C7-EX-HUB01.corp.zynga.com ([fe80::5868:2b47:3c0e:c908%10]) with mapi; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:34:59 -0800 From: Joel Jaeggli To: "George, Wes" , "<82attendees@ietf.org>" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:34:55 -0800 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? Thread-Index: Acyjedax4tT6S10IQzKmU6Uwx0Pftg== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 09:34:59 -0000 if you find a bad strip, removing it and leaving it with the secretariat will not leave it as a surprise for the unwarry... We have not encountered the incorrectly wired 3 phase PDU that we had at a previous IETF, that was both a PS killer and part of the infrastructure. joel --=20 Joel Jaeggli=20 Network Engineering +1.541.513.4095 jjaeggli@zynga.com On 11/15/11 17:23 , "George, Wes" wrote: >I forwarded this (and my own experience) to MTD@ietf so that they can >address with TICC. >I've noticed at least 3 dodgy power strips (in separate rooms), and in >each case they are dead (no lights on the power switch), and if you bump >them they pop and spark. I removed the two that I found previously, but >caveat "pluggor"... > >Wes > >> I had a multi-plug-type travel adapter (with fuse for UK plugs) cook >> itself the morning in 201DEF. The fuse is now melted into it. >> > >> > I am in banquet 3f and after connected my USB charger to the socket >> > bar it sparkled and the magic smoke came out (from the bar, not my >> > charged). 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Levine" To: "Larry Kreeger" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Social ticket for sale X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:01:28 -0000 > FCFS US $ preferred Will you take a $100 bill? Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From prvs=1300d94bd3=jordi.palet@consulintel.es Tue Nov 15 02:06:52 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237A311E81B0 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:06:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -105.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-105.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TOb5Gev-crNq for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from consulintel.es (mail.consulintel.es [213.172.48.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF3C11E80C0 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:06:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=consulintel.es; s=MDaemon; t=1321351551; x=1321956351; q=dns/txt; h=DomainKey-Signature: Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:Thread-Topic: In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding: Reply-To; bh=0fatLYquUMJBM+Iuu4o95f/b3mC4swrpdoT3pX2XZpo=; b=qrx 7U66dbbBGXVOk8DyTnHRCPsKEySQJZdoazotjyVm0ECcI9NELgxCh/eraXnOpWCn eiwweUwXaJtHlIqSpOPSyXBqTpJsjicL3jPOJSyhBQPszscpMphlRcUzcFFucXRt MpBgWN6d4mNYUngYPJjmdH3Zj3Ff9fFtE9oBnQ1w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; s=MDaemon; d=consulintel.es; c=simple; q=dns; h=from:message-id; b=LUDXEgva5dam6FILA9cY9U0igvXdWUtffTXu+YZHwCv/T+RPCdeQaBrf54OT uQitv8nOnuaIVWvO3F90xM7mwOTE17nTixS6r1FHZK2L7UtaQ4CF6Qt3x yltSHO3/uvLc9BnASPHpgpAbDUEumFTzXgD0ze/wzUGq6TYfuulWZM=; X-MDAV-Processed: consulintel.es, Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:05:51 +0100 Received: from [130.129.64.84] by consulintel.es (MDaemon PRO v11.0.3) with ESMTP id md50004036158.msg for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:05:50 +0100 X-Spam-Processed: consulintel.es, Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:05:50 +0100 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDPtrLookup-Result: pass dns.ptr=dhcp-4054.meeting.ietf.org (ip=130.129.64.84) (consulintel.es) X-Authenticated-Sender: jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-HashCash: 1:20:111115:md50004036158::Jv+KoNZo/pxQ/N16:00006IcC X-MDRemoteIP: 130.129.64.84 X-Return-Path: prvs=1300d94bd3=jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-Envelope-From: jordi.palet@consulintel.es X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: 82attendees@ietf.org User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:06:35 +0800 From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ To: <82attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: jordi.palet@consulintel.es List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:06:52 -0000 I don't think is the power strips the problem. I believe in some meeting rooms the wiring or something else, before the power strips, is not correct. At least this was my perception after spending 20 minutes trying to sort it out yesterday in the sofwires session, were the power in half of the meeting room was not working. Regards, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: Joel Jaeggli Responder a: Fecha: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 01:34:55 -0800 Para: "George, Wes" , "<82attendees@ietf.org>" <82attendees@ietf.org> Asunto: Re: [82attendees] Popped power supplies? >if you find a bad strip, removing it and leaving it with the secretariat >will not leave it as a surprise for the unwarry... > >We have not encountered the incorrectly wired 3 phase PDU that we had at a >previous IETF, that was both a PS killer and part of the infrastructure. > >joel > >-- >Joel Jaeggli > >Network Engineering >+1.541.513.4095 >jjaeggli@zynga.com > > > > >On 11/15/11 17:23 , "George, Wes" wrote: > >>I forwarded this (and my own experience) to MTD@ietf so that they can >>address with TICC. >>I've noticed at least 3 dodgy power strips (in separate rooms), and in >>each case they are dead (no lights on the power switch), and if you bump >>them they pop and spark. 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From johnl@iecc.com Tue Nov 15 02:09:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7279411E81B0 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:09:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f7KkHyBqeYpr for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A779E11E81AE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 76255 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2011 10:09:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=129de.4ec23a52.k1111; bh=iLt6R+V+0Dfx9mP3OFJFWq5iYJ3yi9hoarm2XF6uBpY=; b=MryDl6E5ghqdCc+nS8kxbE19X7xZFG09j2rdsyducxnlcCL7cclku20E33c6M50aO7SWu1EEzkX/QXFY3A1+HTGaUqQwQ6W2qUF3dcMWXtKdz5NqOeVWD730lKi0U2Pr3oOrcR6yqxQ6RzVmPeIFxGMPk2HNiTGp9T7K7Y0ykvE= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 15 Nov 2011 10:08:59 -0000 Date: 15 Nov 2011 18:09:19 +0800 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Humberto Galiza" In-Reply-To: References: <4EC22B42.6070908@dcrocker.net> <4EC22E8C.40105@isi.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:09:23 -0000 The US has never recalled or revalued its currency, so every coin and bill ever issued by the US government remains legal tender. But: most of the US currency by value is $100 bills, and most of the $100 bills are outside the US, widely used as a store of value in countries where residents don't trust the local currency. Not surprisingly, there are also a lot of counterfeit $100 bills in circulation, particularly of the older series that don't have the anti-forgery features of the new bills produced since 1996. (There's a new series 2010 bill that hasn't been released yet because the anti-forgery features are so complex that they can't reliably print the bills!) The bank is refusing your $100 because they think they think it may be counterfeit, or at least they're unable to persuade themselves that it's not. I suspect all the banks in Taiwan have similar rules. Joe's point about legal tender is irrelevant, since nobody has to accept a counterfeit bill. Assuming your bill actually isn't counterfeit, perhaps one of the Americans at the conference would be willing to swap it for five $20s which are easier to negotiate here. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From jaromir.talir@nic.cz Tue Nov 15 02:37:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC3F521F8F93 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:37:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_23=0.6, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dui7omIwXPvB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:37:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.nic.cz (mail.nic.cz [IPv6:2001:1488:800:400::400]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C3A21F8F8F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:37:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8:0:32:221:6aff:fe5a:fb52] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:32:221:6aff:fe5a:fb52]) by mail.nic.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5FD3F2A2F24 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:37:51 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nic.cz; s=default; t=1321353472; bh=9JRD6P/zAyEBA3Ir7Os/A3s+YaIWORZMgDG796kLFvw=; h=Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References: Content-Type:Mime-Version; b=obvRD0t8eOjZQOlsj8/KHLrcv3HI5BRzi/8RYxw/kicLWwSMk4gbM6nD01+90NXOX UdfUav2zPYKGF6ed7weySOqvaKvQYXC892YNK5Ulbo3ntaFSUBrh5RdAQyIrUi5pfE L/ExIT64d0F3WWH0wjbjFJH+N/5LTeffGU4QPgCo= Message-ID: <1321353468.1906.20.camel@delik> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jarom=C3=ADr_Tal=C3=AD=C5=99?= To: 82attendees@ietf.org Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:37:48 +0800 In-Reply-To: <2904884B-B670-42E9-830C-4D833DFF69D2@renesasmobile.com> References: <2904884B-B670-42E9-830C-4D833DFF69D2@renesasmobile.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha256"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-ukXWbeGRrHhLpZXTt8zC" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.1 (3.2.1-2.fc16) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.96.5 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [82attendees] Looking for a social ticket X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:37:54 -0000 --=-ukXWbeGRrHhLpZXTt8zC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have the same interest, if anybody would change his mind for the last moment. 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A basic question - how much time does one need at the airport for going through security and passport control and getting to the gate? Do I need to get to the airport 1.5 hours before flight - more? Or less? Best regards, Yaacov Weingarten Nokia Siemens Networks Industry Environment, PTE ph#: +972-9-775 1827 mob#: +972-54-220 0977 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA385.5FE58669 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Getting close to leaving

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Since we = are now past the Social Event = – the mind turns toward = arrangements to go home.

A basic = question – how much time does one need at the airport for going = through security and passport control and getting to the = gate? Do I need to get to the airport 1.5 hours before = flight – more? Or less?

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Levine" To: "Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" In-Reply-To: References: <1321293502.38587.YahooMailNeo@web160712.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Maaz Rehan , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 11:06:03 -0000 By the way, if anyone were planning to go to the Digital Market today, don't. I went and found Closed signs on the door. Dunno if it's closed every Tuesday or something is wrong. 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KioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqDQoNCg== From louk.chi@gmail.com Tue Nov 15 04:18:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E98421F8F62 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:18:48 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.143 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.143 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.457, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7w+mKjkT-B+Q for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pz0-f50.google.com (mail-pz0-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E33E21F8F60 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:18:44 -0800 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[203.145.202.93]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10sm64575648pbd.15.2011.11.15.04.18.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:18:17 -0800 (PST) From: "louk" To: "'John R. Levine'" , "'Weingarten, Yaacov \(NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon\)'" References: <1321293502.38587.YahooMailNeo@web160712.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:18:14 +0800 Message-ID: <00c601cca390$a83ed550$f8bc7ff0$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQF2WbNYvufNA05+Q1cyXdEJpTpJagKpDN/2ATbx+60Cyjxm9ZYlG6Iw Content-Language: zh-tw Cc: 'Maaz Rehan' , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:18:48 -0000 Dear all If you can read in chines, maybe you can order from internet http://24h.pchome.com.tw/ they deliver the goods in 24H. always Ting-Yun Chi (=E7=B4=80=E5=BB=B7=E9=81=8B)=20 Project Conductor , Translation Technology div. of Taiwan IPv6 Program.=20 Room 611, Bldg. No. 3, National Taiwan University No. 1,Sec 4, Roosevelt Rd. , Taipei 10617 , Taiwan R.O.C. TEL: +886-2-33663366 ext 75104 Mobile: +886-933994032 FAX: +886-2-26823971 Email: louk@rd.ipv6.org.tw -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of John R. Levine Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:06 PM To: Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) Cc: Maaz Rehan; 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search By the way, if anyone were planning to go to the Digital Market today, = don't. I went and found Closed signs on the door. Dunno if it's closed = every Tuesday or something is wrong. R's, John _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From spencer@wonderhamster.org Tue Nov 15 04:26:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40AB11E80B6 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:26:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id p1ebZMRqI0-8 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BE711E8073 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.37.123] (dhcp-257b.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.37.123]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MFtvS-1Re3jQ0Gf8-00F9Uy; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:26:23 -0500 Message-ID: <4EC25A5C.8070300@wonderhamster.org> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 06:26:04 -0600 From: Spencer Dawkins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222A8C@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <6A5A6F33-C6F1-44B3-9ED0-29F6D2E8AF0C@cisco.com> <000601cca083$c63eb4e0$52bc1ea0$@edu.tw> <000701cca091$59f321f0$0dd965d0$@edu.tw> <4EC07083.1030000@mulligan.com> <7C362EEF9C7896468B36C9B79200D8350D01222C97@INBANSXCHMBSA1.in.alcatel-lucent.com> <27748AE8-45C5-49EA-975F-0338E7B6B077@kumari.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:IbIvuUxOV36l4M9B6XKAVzpyxywiny5xYgGcRuO9N8a yivruHQqKQ8YHu4wJIYQjytNDxWSyO3ZskVTfiKr8DN0aHKDnp wQ36ttEk/2ITu+8ksx5VQSE9/2rpfAHL7+8OZ/Y0VmMFYRHCEl ROkv16fi06qonfYGlhVkA/nZkzJH3kHfGWjNEc0oNLQFMtTruV Fj388s1kK1UjDJwmocOMq13EIEQIjylP3b9QjG/xOs+ejaQKNa MfpqnTyXR6Alov9YIqifaJUjOEwIgfsS/93mML4WDjws1gW1LO eJqy2kPQlutm5k0ni2EVLppnvVHdJZ4p7WUMy3PaccvHRRznzj Hro2YGgUormi3K4wV2fUXPSG/w3XBqndWwRwpJ6+J Subject: Re: [82attendees] Grand Hyatt is haunted X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 12:26:28 -0000 On 11/14/2011 8:23 PM, Humberto Galiza wrote: > Em 15/11/2011, s 09:37, Warren Kumari escreveu: > >> >> On Nov 14, 2011, at 5:44 PM, Bhatia, Manav (Manav) wrote: >> >>> http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g293913-d306447-r6043624-Grand_Hyatt_Taipei-Taipei.html >>> >>> The "Nice hotel, but haunted" review seems quite interesting. I am hoping that the ghosts will get bored spooking people out of their wits by the time I reach there tomorrow and that my stay would hopefully remain quite uneventful. >> >> Ah, thank you, this explain a lot. > And now it's explain why the internet connection went down at my floor at 1amI think the (a lot of) ghosts were downloading some torrents, and using a lot of internet bandwidth "Rule 34 - no exceptions" ... (Not quite Rule 34 - "if it exists, and apparently even if it doesn't, sooner or later, it downloads porn") >> >> The toilet in my room flushes itself 2 or 4 times a night -- I had thought that people were sneaking into my room to pee[0], but now I realize it must be ghosts >> >> Cool. >> >> W From harald@alvestrand.no Tue Nov 15 17:22:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD97211E8102 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:22:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.58 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.58 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.019, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RRao4hePdU7u for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:22:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no (eikenes.alvestrand.no [158.38.152.233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 116F411E80FC for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1725639E0FC for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:22:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at eikenes.alvestrand.no Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OsU-rZsV06QQ for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:22:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (dhcp-4268.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.66.104]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B5E039E0A3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:22:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EC31048.9010302@alvestrand.no> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:22:16 +0800 From: Harald Alvestrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [82attendees] IPv6 on a D-Link AP? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:22:27 -0000 Greetings folks, just randomly puttering around: in Quebec City I ended up buying a D-Link DIR-401 WLAN AP, and was tickled to find that it supported IPv6! however.... plugging it into the (wired-only) IETF network in my room did not magically get working IPv6 on my wireless. Seemingly, there is no supported way to magically snarf a prefix from the net and announce it on my WLAN segment. Is there a working way to do this? Failing working magic - is there a way to get a subnet assignment that I can configure on the box? Harald From morgan.sackett@gmail.com Tue Nov 15 17:27:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49751F0C8B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:27:20 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YTq+yATc46KV for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:27:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B271F0C86 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:27:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywt34 with SMTP id 34so7132652ywt.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:27:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1kSGiXpercq9vja1WT4yHid6lCuN4uazl4wgozara2U=; b=qawQq/Xpkw1jA/DzfcPnlMO3/k5X39p+XL5sPpLaNhyJD5pevRscwo2hpmrqMu96v6 KJDZS2iohftdab8+DzSOqgc1YC8yySL7UnVMIEWyb9wY6+UFSX1nv55LC05DDKHSZXbY Hh7ASEc/ztoXTP1vUNs6tI68vkQgrSmcXFqyI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.9.2 with SMTP id v2mr63633536pba.101.1321406835694; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:27:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.12.167 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:27:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4EC31048.9010302@alvestrand.no> References: <4EC31048.9010302@alvestrand.no> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:27:15 +0800 Message-ID: From: Morgan Sackett To: Harald Alvestrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] IPv6 on a D-Link AP? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:27:20 -0000 Just a question, but do you have it in a bridged mode, or are you running it as a NAT box? -Morgan On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Harald Alvestrand w= rote: > Greetings folks, > just randomly puttering around: > in Quebec City I ended up buying a D-Link DIR-401 WLAN AP, and was tickle= d > to find that it supported IPv6! > however.... > > plugging it into the (wired-only) IETF network in my room did not magical= ly > get working IPv6 on my wireless. Seemingly, there is no supported way to > magically snarf a prefix from the net and announce it on my WLAN segment. > > Is there a working way to do this? > > Failing working magic - is there a way to get a subnet assignment that I = can > configure on the box? > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Harald > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From morrowc@google.com Tue Nov 15 17:48:07 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2BBF11E815E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.377 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.377 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.600, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, J_CHICKENPOX_54=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wwsryL+otdcV for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gx0-f172.google.com (mail-gx0-f172.google.com [209.85.161.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A71211E813E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by ggnr5 with SMTP id r5so3388327ggn.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-system-of-record; bh=0evN7lmAD3usm1YulI1KYmquMRMC1rRRe7LSNsqmFEU=; b=RMh3is5JWbfVrB+ShYpfnbjhBFNwpcrKya3EDj2WpLH5Uvwll5ZgmzLESETolW73jG q23O1lGFcrcMkjsFts8w== Received: by 10.100.118.11 with SMTP id q11mr5753443anc.84.1321408086948; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.118.11 with SMTP id q11mr5753435anc.84.1321408086759; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.53.4 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:48:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: Chris Morrow To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-System-Of-Record: true Subject: [82attendees] Internet connection sharing X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:48:08 -0000 considered harmful... on the conference network wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:24:d7:9a:c0:78 inet addr:130.129.22.11 Bcast:130.129.23.255 Mask:255.255.248.0 inet6 addr: 2001:df8:0:96:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Global inet6 addr: fec0::9:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Site inet6 addr: 2002:8281:13aa:9:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Global inet6 addr: 2001:df8:0:16:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Global inet6 addr: fe80::224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Link please user of ip address: $ whois 2002:8281:13aa:9:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078 Querying for the IPv4 endpoint 130.129.19.170 of a 6to4 IPv6 address. # # Query terms are ambiguous. The query is assumed to be: # "n 130.129.19.170" with mac address: $ arp -an ? (130.129.19.170) at 00:1a:73:a0:fd:f1 [ether] on wlan0 (you apparently have a gemtek NIC) would you kindly disable internet connection sharing? :) You aren't really sharing if you blackhole all packets :( $ ping6 ipv6.google.com PING ipv6.google.com(2404:6800:8002::67) 56 data bytes ^C --- ipv6.google.com ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms -chris From quincy.wu@gmail.com Tue Nov 15 17:48:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11F8B11E8166 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aWPoWCDZo248 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7917D11E813E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywt34 with SMTP id 34so7152316ywt.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xbxhHyKCeRgkbULqTm5dl0S8Fa0/uQiu+kqhwZJSPGc=; b=uEcAMuXRM9YMeDqseWaCx18NdSA5Iladix2hnsyTM0+zGvLLQhVXCxMtMCuWjdHGVB MDUCS2hmKPZs29nkaGhubHbmT102jEihg1gmCZUUBSJkQVVL/dUj+518YB1EJ8nrlMu2 OFbRjO2LvEUFNOg2VdRIzJXk0dTLZJpsQSqZg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.8.2 with SMTP id l2mr9270845ani.79.1321408101043; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:21 -0800 (PST) Sender: quincy.wu@gmail.com Received: by 10.236.44.6 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:48:20 +0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mWiO0p0x6xtD6ASxeerE4Fpm7kI Message-ID: From: Aaron Solomon in 2011 To: chinthaka wasantha Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b42dcd774e9b04b1d04c4b Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Looking for photographs in technical plenary X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:48:22 -0000 --001636b42dcd774e9b04b1d04c4b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:24 PM, chinthaka wasantha wrote: > I got some photos as attached. But again not sure whether this will fit > into your requirement or not. > Hi Chinthaka, Thanks for sharing. However, your photographs show that there are many empty seats. Do you think this will further make people worried that IETF may not be as influential as before? :-) (Sounds like the major concern in IAB meeting.) Best regards, Quincy Nov. 16 --001636b42dcd774e9b04b1d04c4b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:24 PM, chinth= aka wasantha <chinthakawk@gmail.com> wrote:
I got some photos as attached. But again not sure whether this will fi= t into your requirement or not.

Hi=A0Chint= haka,

= Thanks for sharing. =A0However, your photographs show that there are many e= mpty seats.
Do you think this will further make people worri= ed that IETF may not be as influential as before? =A0:-)
(Sounds like the major concern in IAB meeting.)

Best regards,
Quincy
Nov. 16
--001636b42dcd774e9b04b1d04c4b-- From hannes.tschofenig@gmx.net Tue Nov 15 17:59:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B653621F8C96 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:59:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LpxrorcviuGT for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 39BC121F8C91 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:59:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Nov 2011 01:59:05 -0000 Received: from dhcp-172b.meeting.ietf.org (EHLO dhcp-172b.meeting.ietf.org) [130.129.23.43] by mail.gmx.net (mp014) with SMTP; 16 Nov 2011 02:59:05 +0100 X-Authenticated: #29516787 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18EP+F9nOAER3qeW4lYZ/U0s2+UJ2qD4rAA6JsCnj aVR+3cGCwtivog Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Hannes Tschofenig In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:59:00 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3FEB529E-BC5E-4669-9808-DC5AAB05BCD8@gmx.net> References: To: Aaron Solomon in 2011 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Cc: chinthaka wasantha , Hannes Tschofenig , 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Looking for photographs in technical plenary X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 01:59:11 -0000 Hi Quincy,=20 I believe you are misinterpret the discussions at the IAB technical = plenary. We (at least the panel speakers) were not concerned about the = relevance of the IETF in the area of smart objects but instead wondering = how best develop an interoperable IP protocol suite for constrained = devices. Ciao Hannes On Nov 16, 2011, at 2:48 AM, Aaron Solomon in 2011 wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:24 PM, chinthaka wasantha = wrote: > I got some photos as attached. But again not sure whether this will = fit into your requirement or not. >=20 > Hi Chinthaka, >=20 > Thanks for sharing. However, your photographs show that there are = many empty seats. > Do you think this will further make people worried that IETF may not = be as influential as before? :-) > (Sounds like the major concern in IAB meeting.) >=20 > Best regards, > Quincy > Nov. 16 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From mellon@fugue.com Tue Nov 15 18:02:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C26611E815F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:02:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.337 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.337 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2qn7BTyTr-dJ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from toccata.fugue.com (toccata.fugue.com [204.152.186.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94C0A11E815B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:02:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::80:14d3:ed02:1a01:ddac] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:80:14d3:ed02:1a01:ddac]) by toccata.fugue.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 378402381DBE; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:02:02 -0500 (EST) References: <4EC31048.9010302@alvestrand.no> In-Reply-To: <4EC31048.9010302@alvestrand.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <0A0BA7A0-874B-4CDB-87F3-54F4B9716D43@fugue.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Ted Lemon Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:02:33 +0800 To: Harald Alvestrand Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] IPv6 on a D-Link AP? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:02:04 -0000 On Nov 16, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote:= > plugging it into the (wired-only) IETF network in my room did not magicall= y get working IPv6 on my wireless. Seemingly, there is no supported way to m= agically snarf a prefix from the net and announce it on my WLAN segment. >=20 > Is there a working way to do this? DHCPv6 prefix delegation? From smccammon@amsl.com Tue Nov 15 18:11:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D346911E81AC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:11:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FgFUAJXMRH3Z for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:10:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1A0721F8DB0 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF78712C8D2; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:09:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c8a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c8a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YSMzkCH7uiDN; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:09:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-2504.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-2504.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.37.4]) by c8a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1DE2912C8AE; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:09:03 -0800 (PST) From: Stephanie McCammon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--495155359 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:10:28 +0800 Message-Id: To: 82all@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] FOUND - Cell Phone X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:11:20 -0000 --Apple-Mail-7--495155359 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A cell phone was found on the second floor of the TICC in the lounge = area. 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= --Apple-Mail-7--495155359-- From prvs=2941240af=jjaeggli@zynga.com Tue Nov 15 18:13:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5782921F8DE1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:13:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.735 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.735 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.136, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FsrwxtN53LEM for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:13:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from c7-ip01.zynga.com (c7-ip01.zynga.com [72.5.237.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753AD21F8DE0 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:13:25 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received-SPF: Pass identity=mailfrom; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra; x-record-type="v=spf1" Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=172.16.100.13; receiver=c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com; envelope-from="jjaeggli@zynga.com"; x-sender="postmaster@C7-EX-HUB01.corp.zynga.com"; x-conformance=sidf_compatible.downgrade_pra Received: from c7-ex-hub01.corp.zynga.com ([172.16.100.13]) by c7-ip01.corp.zynga.com with ESMTP; 15 Nov 2011 18:13:25 -0800 Received: from C7-EX-MB03.corp.zynga.com ([fe80::91f8:94d3:4c14:48cc]) by C7-EX-HUB01.corp.zynga.com ([fe80::5868:2b47:3c0e:c908%10]) with mapi; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:13:25 -0800 From: Joel Jaeggli To: Ted Lemon , Harald Alvestrand Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:13:23 -0800 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] IPv6 on a D-Link AP? Thread-Index: AcykBVIvv/7l7aU6T5K41eVz0HUmDg== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0A0BA7A0-874B-4CDB-87F3-54F4B9716D43@fugue.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.13.0.110805 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] IPv6 on a D-Link AP? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:13:30 -0000 if you're adding dhcpv6 pd to the network requirements, please do so... In my room, I just bridged... joel --=20 Joel Jaeggli=20 Network Engineering +1.541.513.4095 jjaeggli@zynga.com On 11/16/11 10:02 , "Ted Lemon" wrote: >On Nov 16, 2011, at 9:22 AM, Harald Alvestrand >wrote: >> plugging it into the (wired-only) IETF network in my room did not >>magically get working IPv6 on my wireless. Seemingly, there is no >>supported way to magically snarf a prefix from the net and announce it >>on my WLAN segment. >>=20 >> Is there a working way to do this? > >DHCPv6 prefix delegation? > >_______________________________________________ >82attendees mailing list >82attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From harald@alvestrand.no Tue Nov 15 18:18:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6426321F8E3A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:18:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -109.712 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.712 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.353, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, SARE_LWSHORTT=1.24, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x0ThI7AyH7g9 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:18:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no (eikenes.alvestrand.no [158.38.152.233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353BB21F8E33 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:18:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7838039E0FC; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:18:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at eikenes.alvestrand.no Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1qnGU6CxqG78; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:18:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from [172.30.214.24] (unknown [72.14.229.193]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E71B39E0A3; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:18:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EC31D64.50307@alvestrand.no> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:18:12 +0800 From: Harald Alvestrand User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110921 Thunderbird/3.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Morgan Sackett References: <4EC31048.9010302@alvestrand.no> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] IPv6 on a D-Link AP? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:18:25 -0000 On 11/16/2011 09:27 AM, Morgan Sackett wrote: > Just a question, but do you have it in a bridged mode, or are you > running it as a NAT box? Bridged mode is probably the answer, short term. This would also work with APs that don't support IPv6. I suspect that it'll still be answering on 192.168.1.1 on the public net - otherwise it's hard to get to the box for turning DHCP back on later. Shouldn't be a real problem. Would be nice to have DHCPv6 prefix delegation available, but I suspect the box doesn't support that. At least not with the image it came with :-) > -Morgan > > > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote: >> Greetings folks, >> just randomly puttering around: >> in Quebec City I ended up buying a D-Link DIR-401 WLAN AP, and was tickled >> to find that it supported IPv6! >> however.... >> >> plugging it into the (wired-only) IETF network in my room did not magically >> get working IPv6 on my wireless. Seemingly, there is no supported way to >> magically snarf a prefix from the net and announce it on my WLAN segment. >> >> Is there a working way to do this? >> >> Failing working magic - is there a way to get a subnet assignment that I can >> configure on the box? >> >> Harald >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >> From evyncke@cisco.com Tue Nov 15 18:43:45 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E63541F0C60 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:43:45 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.211 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.211 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.187, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_54=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ERwF-2aouspB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:43:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-2.cisco.com (ams-iport-2.cisco.com [144.254.224.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8391F0CA8 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:43:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=evyncke@cisco.com; l=1834; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321411422; x=1322621022; h=mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date: message-id:in-reply-to:references:from:to; bh=4vEsu4i4elZ+z+BZWokDI/QeYMxSosE4g4k8T4IgyFY=; b=fQkfr5Fp+ZPMc4q1JDHc+H3qzLvEBGs6sTlQSLoZe9vTRtNhYK3geSbZ fekiFExQETRbKlkF9kK5vDZ7AKBoNZ09y4IBTEv6zI7OIdkbkLKYuyWle Z7hVPqf/4RFe2ec7RpLmplPsFJRcH2tIWqpMKi2m/5d1Nfj5m8beCwV9t 4=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFAFIiw06Q/khN/2dsb2JhbAA5CqlygQWBcgEBAQQBAQEPAR0KLgYXBAIBCBEEAQELBg0KAQYBJh8JCAEBBAESCBqHaJpVAZ5YhmOCUWMEmXiMOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,518,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="59940877" Received: from ams-core-4.cisco.com ([144.254.72.77]) by ams-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2011 02:43:40 +0000 Received: from xbh-ams-101.cisco.com (xbh-ams-101.cisco.com [144.254.74.71]) by ams-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAG2heaa008107; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:43:40 GMT Received: from xmb-ams-110.cisco.com ([144.254.74.85]) by xbh-ams-101.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:43:40 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:40:22 +0100 Message-ID: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C54235@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Internet connection sharing Thread-Index: AcykAc4px5QKE55ZRHmYXavUKvbcugABzMwg References: From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" To: "Chris Morrow" , <82attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2011 02:43:40.0786 (UTC) FILETIME=[8CA00520:01CCA409] Subject: Re: [82attendees] Internet connection sharing X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:43:46 -0000 nmblookup -a 130.129.19.170 could help to identify the 'culprit' ;-) > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Chris Morrow > Sent: mercredi 16 novembre 2011 09:48 > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Internet connection sharing >=20 > considered harmful... on the conference network >=20 >=20 > wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:24:d7:9a:c0:78 > inet addr:130.129.22.11 Bcast:130.129.23.255 Mask:255.255.248.0 > inet6 addr: 2001:df8:0:96:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Global > inet6 addr: fec0::9:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Site > inet6 addr: 2002:8281:13aa:9:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Global > inet6 addr: 2001:df8:0:16:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Global > inet6 addr: fe80::224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Link >=20 > please user of ip address: >=20 > $ whois 2002:8281:13aa:9:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078 >=20 > Querying for the IPv4 endpoint 130.129.19.170 of a 6to4 IPv6 address. >=20 > # > # Query terms are ambiguous. The query is assumed to be: > # "n 130.129.19.170" >=20 >=20 > with mac address: >=20 > $ arp -an > ? (130.129.19.170) at 00:1a:73:a0:fd:f1 [ether] on wlan0 >=20 > (you apparently have a gemtek NIC) >=20 > would you kindly disable internet connection sharing? :) >=20 > You aren't really sharing if you blackhole all packets :( > $ ping6 ipv6.google.com > PING ipv6.google.com(2404:6800:8002::67) 56 data bytes > ^C > --- ipv6.google.com ping statistics --- > 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms >=20 >=20 > -chris > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From morrowc@google.com Tue Nov 15 18:59:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBB121F8F20 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:59:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.176 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.176 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.400, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, J_CHICKENPOX_54=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_56=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IiIOJfMST3Dc for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F1821F8F0D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywt34 with SMTP id 34so7217451ywt.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:58:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=beta; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-system-of-record; bh=ZMPpBcmQyJCMa9rp8WvdctNAiG1+fCFz9f8MFazewNE=; b=IoBtR3knnf9vUzDGaDMA2j/lidZtL61aOTFRdd/r9JH1L7WB/95LBLtnrxeBlhF3CJ YLFxfUCWIfPSvS2vheiA== Received: by 10.100.116.14 with SMTP id o14mr155055anc.106.1321412336162; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:58:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.116.14 with SMTP id o14mr155040anc.106.1321412335766; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:58:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.53.4 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:58:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C54235@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> References: <317616CE96204D49B5A1811098BA895005C54235@XMB-AMS-110.cisco.com> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:58:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Chris Morrow To: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-System-Of-Record: true Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Internet connection sharing X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 02:59:01 -0000 On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > nmblookup -a 130.129.19.170 > > could help to identify the 'culprit' ;-) > apparently they decided to drop off the network? $ arp -an ? (130.129.16.1) at 00:00:5e:00:01:10 [ether] on wlan0 ? (130.129.19.170) at on wlan0 and up/down of the local interface clears the v6 tunnel state too, which is nice. (I'll remember the nmblookup for next time!) -chris >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Chris Morrow >> Sent: mercredi 16 novembre 2011 09:48 >> To: 82attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: [82attendees] Internet connection sharing >> >> considered harmful... on the conference network >> >> >> wlan0 =A0 =A0 Link encap:Ethernet =A0HWaddr 00:24:d7:9a:c0:78 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 inet addr:130.129.22.11 =A0Bcast:130.129.23.255 > Mask:255.255.248.0 >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 inet6 addr: 2001:df8:0:96:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scop= e:Global >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 inet6 addr: fec0::9:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Site >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 inet6 addr: 2002:8281:13aa:9:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 > Scope:Global >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 inet6 addr: 2001:df8:0:16:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scop= e:Global >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 inet6 addr: fe80::224:d7ff:fe9a:c078/64 Scope:Link >> >> please user of ip address: >> >> $ whois 2002:8281:13aa:9:224:d7ff:fe9a:c078 >> >> Querying for the IPv4 endpoint 130.129.19.170 of a 6to4 IPv6 address. >> >> # >> # Query terms are ambiguous. =A0The query is assumed to be: >> # =A0 =A0 "n 130.129.19.170" >> >> >> with mac address: >> >> $ arp -an >> ? (130.129.19.170) at 00:1a:73:a0:fd:f1 [ether] on wlan0 >> >> (you apparently have a gemtek NIC) >> >> would you kindly disable internet connection sharing? :) >> >> You aren't really sharing if you blackhole all packets :( >> $ ping6 ipv6.google.com >> PING ipv6.google.com(2404:6800:8002::67) 56 data bytes >> ^C >> --- ipv6.google.com ping statistics --- >> 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 1999ms >> >> >> -chris >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From yaacov.weingarten@nsn.com Tue Nov 15 19:13:06 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD06421F8F3F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:13:06 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5WYgtS24U147 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D7421F8F22 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.56]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id pAG3D47G001329 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:13:04 +0100 Received: from demuexc024.nsn-intra.net (demuexc024.nsn-intra.net [10.159.32.11]) by demuprx017.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id pAG3D4QO008738 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:13:04 +0100 Received: from DEMUEXC013.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.128.24]) by demuexc024.nsn-intra.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:13:04 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CCA40D.A7C8F455" Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:13:03 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Children's clothing Thread-Index: AcykDacJrvPrYUJIQvKwobsEfPpsRw== From: "Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" To: <82attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Nov 2011 03:13:04.0719 (UTC) FILETIME=[A802D5F0:01CCA40D] Subject: [82attendees] Children's clothing X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:13:06 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA40D.A7C8F455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Is there a nearby market to buy inexpensive children's clothing? 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------_=_NextPart_001_01CCA40D.A7C8F455-- From prvs=294fc41b2=Alexander.Knauf@haw-hamburg.de Tue Nov 15 21:15:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB98A1F0C47 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:15:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.505 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.505 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.745, BAYES_05=-1.11, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2hLqH9I9OYLQ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx3.haw-public.haw-hamburg.de (mx3.haw-public.haw-hamburg.de [141.22.6.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467F51F0C7F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:15:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from dehawshub02.mailcluster.haw-hamburg.de ([141.22.200.52]) by mail3.is.haw-hamburg.de with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 16 Nov 2011 06:15:04 +0100 Received: from dehawscas01.mailcluster.haw-hamburg.de (141.22.200.33) by DEHAWSHUB02.mailcluster.haw-hamburg.de (141.22.200.52) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.358.0; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:15:04 +0100 Received: from [130.129.20.180] (141.22.200.38) by haw-mailer.haw-hamburg.de (141.22.200.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.358.0; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:15:03 +0100 Message-ID: <4EC346D6.6010502@haw-hamburg.de> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:15:02 +0100 From: Alexander Knauf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [82attendees] Bookstore near ietf X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:15:17 -0000 Hi, I am looking for a large bookstore to buy some Chinese books. Has anyone a recommendation near the ietf? 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Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:34:13 +0800 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:34:13 +0000 From: Tina TSOU In-reply-to: <4EC346D6.6010502@haw-hamburg.de> X-Originating-IP: [10.212.245.2] To: Alexander Knauf , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-language: en-US Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Thread-topic: [82attendees] Bookstore near ietf Thread-index: AQHMpB7fFO9t1UAGH0W9dnu8yNrFwJWu+glg X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected References: <4EC346D6.6010502@haw-hamburg.de> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Bookstore near ietf X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:37:00 -0000 tdjWtw0KzKixscrQ0MXBeIVey8m438K3MTHMlg0KDQpBZGRyZXNzOg0KTm8gMTEsIFNvbmcgR2Fv IFJvYWQsIFhpbiBZaSBEaXN0cmljdCwgVGFpcGVpDQoNCk15IGh1c2JhbmQgYm91Z2h0IGEgYm9v ayB0aGVyZSB5ZXN0ZXJkYXkuIEhlIHNhaWQgaXQgaXMgbmljZS4NCg0KaHR0cDovL2Jsb2cuZXNs aXRlLmNvbS94aW55aV9ib29rcy9hYm91dA0KDQooMDIpODc4OS0zMzg4IGV4dC4gMzAwMQ0KDQoN CkJlc3QgUmVnYXJkcywNClRpbmEgVFNPVQ0KaHR0cDovL3RpbmF0c291LndlZWJseS5jb20vY29u dGFjdC5odG1sDQoNCg0KDQotLS0tLU9yaWdpbmFsIE1lc3NhZ2UtLS0tLQ0KRnJvbTogODJhdHRl bmRlZXMtYm91bmNlc0BpZXRmLm9yZyBbbWFpbHRvOjgyYXR0ZW5kZWVzLWJvdW5jZXNAaWV0Zi5v cmddIE9uIEJlaGFsZiBPZiBBbGV4YW5kZXIgS25hdWYNClNlbnQ6IFdlZG5lc2RheSwgTm92ZW1i ZXIgMTYsIDIwMTEgMToxNSBQTQ0KVG86IDgyYXR0ZW5kZWVzQGlldGYub3JnDQpTdWJqZWN0OiBb ODJhdHRlbmRlZXNdIEJvb2tzdG9yZSBuZWFyIGlldGYNCg0KSGksDQoNCkkgYW0gbG9va2luZyBm b3IgYSBsYXJnZSBib29rc3RvcmUgdG8gYnV5IHNvbWUgQ2hpbmVzZSBib29rcy4gSGFzIGFueW9u ZSANCmEgcmVjb21tZW5kYXRpb24gbmVhciB0aGUgaWV0Zj8NCg0KUmVnYXJkcywNCg0KQWxleGFu ZGVyDQpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0KODJh dHRlbmRlZXMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0DQo4MmF0dGVuZGVlc0BpZXRmLm9yZw0KaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cu aWV0Zi5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby84MmF0dGVuZGVlcw0K From dromasca@avaya.com Tue Nov 15 21:50:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D1A21F922C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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16 Nov 2011 00:50:38 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.14]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2011 00:49:26 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:50:33 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: [82attendees] Bookstore near ietf thread-index: AQHMpB7fFO9t1UAGH0W9dnu8yNrFwJWu+glggAADqnA= References: <4EC346D6.6010502@haw-hamburg.de> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Tina TSOU" , "Alexander Knauf" , <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Bookstore near ietf X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:50:46 -0000 I also visited the bookstore yesterday after the social. It's a large, pleasant and interesting place. The vast majority of the books are in Chinese, but those who are interested will find some stuff in English as well, distributed in the different sections (rather than concentrated in one English section). They also have music and films. Open until midnight. Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Tina TSOU > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:34 AM > To: Alexander Knauf; 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Bookstore near ietf > > $BCOT.(J > $BBfKL;T?.5AR?>>9bO)(J11$BiK(J > > Address: > No 11, Song Gao Road, Xin Yi District, Taipei > > My husband bought a book there yesterday. He said it is nice. > > http://blog.eslite.com/xinyi_books/about > > (02)8789-3388 ext. 3001 > > > Best Regards, > Tina TSOU > http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Knauf > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:15 PM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Bookstore near ietf > > Hi, > > I am looking for a large bookstore to buy some Chinese books. 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Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:58:42 +0200 From: Manner Jukka To: "Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Children's clothing Thread-Index: AcykDacJrvPrYUJIQvKwobsEfPpsRwADsEYA Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:58:42 +0000 Message-ID: <891503D4-E605-472A-AF62-3BCE8B07429F@aalto.fi> References: <14055_1321413192_4EC32A48_14055_353_1_E4873516F3FC7547BCFE792C7D94039CDFC634@DEMUEXC013.nsn-intra.net> In-Reply-To: <14055_1321413192_4EC32A48_14055_353_1_E4873516F3FC7547BCFE792C7D94039CDFC634@DEMUEXC013.nsn-intra.net> Accept-Language: en-US, fi-FI Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.129.8.119] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <424DDD8B1F9AE149B695471B57518839@aalto.fi> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<82attendees@ietf.org>" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Children's clothing X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:58:53 -0000 The Main Train station has three underground malls. I counted about a handf= ul of small shops that had children's clothing. The prices were very low, s= o was the quality. ;) Jukka On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) wr= ote: > Hi, >=20 >=20 > Is there a nearby market to buy inexpensive children's clothing? >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > Yaacov Weingarten >=20 > Nokia Siemens Networks >=20 > Industry Environment, PTE >=20 > ph#: +972-9-775 1827 >=20 > mob#: +972-54-220 0977 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From humbertogaliza@gmail.com Tue Nov 15 23:03:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6150711E81CE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:03:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fz+wk5NBQvCE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:03:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C984611E81CB for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by bkbzv15 with SMTP id zv15so213319bkb.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:03:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eqsmjdBi6K7xbxJkUKTh2+LdLh1uwbWWaq8zJTmIUC0=; b=vUG5yTPr3hhpBiomBeOm/R/mqkX8IKomDIypKkmRzhE1nF0J5tA8+jL8fZ+EyhqHJ7 XOmLSKVq2SHLxYZcC/zyGPCXqxDEgNTQGJBlqQFEcdA/Y4tHo4/WE9sh5bfUrlflRPB9 jaB+TLCiOw/X91Rc7zZDte2fvrytcaqt49C/0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.157.154 with SMTP id b26mr20203894bkx.52.1321426992651; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:03:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.124.19 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:03:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EC22B42.6070908@dcrocker.net> <4EC22E8C.40105@isi.edu> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:03:12 +0800 Message-ID: From: Humberto Galiza To: "John R. Levine" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 07:03:19 -0000 Hi there, I tried to: exchange my money again (HSBC, Citibank, Bank of Taiwan) and got no sucess (same argument, too old); deposit in bank account and got no success (am I on top of a wave of bad lucky??? Probably..) My gateway of last resort: is there anyone here that wants to swap money with me (old dolar x new dolar)? If so, please contact me in pvt. Regards, Humberto Galiza 2011/11/15 John R. Levine : > The US has never recalled or revalued its currency, so every coin and bil= l > ever issued by the US government remains legal tender. > > But: most of the US currency by value is $100 bills, and most of the $100 > bills are outside the US, widely used as a store of value in countries wh= ere > residents don't trust the local currency. =A0Not surprisingly, there are = also > a lot of counterfeit $100 bills in circulation, particularly of the older > series that don't have the anti-forgery features of the new bills produce= d > since 1996. =A0(There's a new series 2010 bill that hasn't been released = yet > because the anti-forgery features are so complex that they can't reliably > print the bills!) > > The bank is refusing your $100 because they think they think it may be > counterfeit, or at least they're unable to persuade themselves that it's > not. =A0I suspect all the banks in Taiwan have similar rules. =A0Joe's po= int > about legal tender is irrelevant, since nobody has to accept a counterfei= t > bill. > > Assuming your bill actually isn't counterfeit, perhaps one of the America= ns > at the conference would be willing to swap it for five $20s which are eas= ier > to negotiate here. > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for > Dummies", > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly > From jukka.manner@aalto.fi Tue Nov 15 23:11:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9688B11E81DB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:11:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.033 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.033 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.637, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_BASE64_TEXT=1.753, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qy5CbjhXy4Em for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:11:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx03.aalto.fi (mx03.aalto.fi [130.233.222.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE8D11E8099 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:11:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx03.aalto.fi (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E16C28776 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:11:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from EXHUB01.org.aalto.fi (ex-hub01.org.aalto.fi [130.233.222.118]) by mx03.aalto.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6434428772 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:11:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from EXMDB04.org.aalto.fi ([169.254.1.248]) by EXHUB01.org.aalto.fi ([130.233.222.118]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:11:28 +0200 From: Manner Jukka To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search Thread-Index: AQHMo0LavaGrWATzB0GZ8VLse2ZFkpWu9dYA Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 07:11:27 +0000 Message-ID: <38D5389C-60F0-4F50-AED6-CDE2D4102D16@aalto.fi> References: <1ECAFF543A2FED4EA2BEB6CACE08E47615A9EA@008-AM1MPN1-006.mgdnok.nokia.com> <21844_1321326080_4EC1D600_21844_297_1_DC6CFC252D9E43ADBFCFE5A9D0EC243B@twnic.net.tw> In-Reply-To: <21844_1321326080_4EC1D600_21844_297_1_DC6CFC252D9E43ADBFCFE5A9D0EC243B@twnic.net.tw> Accept-Language: en-US, fi-FI Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [130.129.8.119] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 07:11:34 -0000 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Go down the escalator one floor and the pub is directly ahead through some c= lothes stalls. -- Tim= From jon.hudson@gmail.com Wed Nov 16 04:00:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A07921F9654 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:00:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TTZJIUiaE053 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:00:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE1CC21F9653 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 04:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywt34 with SMTP id 34so7782938ywt.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; 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Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <3778E738-9E19-4971-A5A7-67FEDDE782A9@ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Le Ble D'or X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:30:39 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/16/2011 12:50 PM, Tim Chown wrote: > Some have found it hard to find. > > From the Hyatt front door turn right, cross the first main road and turn left at the second junction. > > Head down that road and at the end cross over, and enter the building opposite via the right hand of the two doors. There was a large mobile phone advert over the door. > > Go down the escalator one floor and the pub is directly ahead through some clothes stalls. Fun story from the place: A few of us arrived early and didn't wind up at the rest of the chairs table. Me and =JeffH wanted to duck out early and asked for our part of the bill. The waitress nodded vigorously and ran off only to appear with an eager face and .... wait for it .... ^L^L^L A handful of darts (!) Exactly what part of our gesticulating translated to "want to play darts" is forever lost. Cheers Leif -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7DuvQACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZnciUgCfcKBClqsoV5wcBk431nisSTTo nvQAnjEwwahrGUJL50/6nwWqFB+v1vZA =WAqY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk Wed Nov 16 06:03:28 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DEF21F9652 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:03:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.412 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.412 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.813, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hCe0TmIpCQHQ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:03:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.knowthenet.org.uk (mx1.knowthenet.org.uk [213.248.199.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8410C21F9650 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:03:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: s=main.dk.nominet.selector; d=nominet.org.uk; c=nofws; q=dns; h=X-IronPort-AV:Received:Received:From:To:CC:Subject: Thread-Topic:Thread-Index:Date:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Accept-Language:Content-Language: X-MS-Has-Attach:X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:Content-Type: Content-ID:Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version; b=XOpXOmRkOS7RBUgDAfAa5h/Th+pwGtwbiDtbErHYh7djmUBvidJXQcNs fmsSRc2l7kYCN5zGEDHPoE/FV7plNIcws0BygfXpmei7GTd0Ry2Zm8FHI h7X2ABPSraXdNpf; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nominet.org.uk; i=Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk; q=dns/txt; s=main.dkim.nominet.selector; t=1321452207; x=1352988207; h=from:sender:reply-to:subject:date:message-id:to:cc: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-id: content-description:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:list-owner:list-archive; z=From:=20Ray=20Bellis=20 |Subject:=20Re:=20[82attendees]=20Taipei=20101=20Info |Date:=20Wed,=2016=20Nov=202011=2014:03:22=20+0000 |Message-ID:=20|To:=20Jon=20Hudson=20 |CC:=20"82attendees@ietf.org"=20<82attendees@ietf.org> |MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-Transfer-Encoding:=20quoted- printable|Content-ID:=20<3819ad7a-740d-4ff1-8f20-77764624 c8f8>|In-Reply-To:=20<7EECC9FF-F0DF-4CDC-B665-A0398AE0679 A@gmail.com>|References:=20<8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E839 29749CBFE6474@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se>=0D=0A=20<7E ECC9FF-F0DF-4CDC-B665-A0398AE0679A@gmail.com>; bh=cV37eSr3lTmwTP+9g5E60t4mgu+pGUlCElaYMe2HuTM=; b=k4MtQCLS3f+ljf2Bj8EnqXF84boXzqrW5LGg5NQcek+ZljB12T+enrfx yMusaXAZv3RTdibAf7xdLlcnIJuJ0L1bNQBptcHEPuB6JB+QP3r2eJw0F u93iOvG0c0Rwd+i; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,521,1315177200"; d="scan'208";a="36650561" Received: from wds-exc2.okna.nominet.org.uk ([213.248.197.145]) by mx3.nominet.org.uk with ESMTP; 16 Nov 2011 14:03:24 +0000 Received: from WDS-EXC1.okna.nominet.org.uk ([fe80::1593:1394:a91f:8f5f]) by wds-exc2.okna.nominet.org.uk ([fe80::7577:eaca:5241:25d4%19]) with mapi; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:03:23 +0000 From: Ray Bellis To: Jon Hudson Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Taipei 101 Info Thread-Index: AQHMpFdq36kMOvk3bUiZayFaqN28jpWviFEA Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:03:22 +0000 Message-ID: References: <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CBFE6474@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se> <7EECC9FF-F0DF-4CDC-B665-A0398AE0679A@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7EECC9FF-F0DF-4CDC-B665-A0398AE0679A@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3819ad7a-740d-4ff1-8f20-77764624c8f8> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Taipei 101 Info X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:03:28 -0000 On 16 Nov 2011, at 20:00, Jon Hudson wrote: > Walk from Conference Center to 5th Floor ~20min Seriously? More like ~7m when I just did it. It's only about 500 meters. >From the passage running between TWTC and the Hyatt, use the bridge to cros= s into the 101 Mall, and go straight up two elevators. From the 4F concour= se walk about 60m toward the tower (visible through the ceiling) and take 1= more elevator to the observatory ticket office. > Line to exchange pass for real ticket ~5min I bought a real ticket so I can use the pass during the day. At 8:20pm this evening that took one minute. > Line to get into Elevator to 89th floor ~30min ~7m > 5th-89th floor ~45sec=20 >=20 more or less ;-) > Ice team on 89th floor ~stellar=20 I didn't try that. > 91st floor outside deck: closed Yup :( > Line to get in elevator to go down ~20min ~5m again. > So plan for lots of time and use the extra to admire the view! > Totally worth it Totally agreed! 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[124.9.54.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u4sm750174yha.13.2011.11.16.06.16.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:17:02 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Joseph Yee In-Reply-To: <4EC3BAF4.4030904@sunet.se> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:16:52 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3778E738-9E19-4971-A5A7-67FEDDE782A9@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC3BAF4.4030904@sunet.se> To: Leif Johansson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Le Ble D'or X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:17:08 -0000 On 2011-11-16, at 8:30 AM, Leif Johansson wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > On 11/16/2011 12:50 PM, Tim Chown wrote: >> Some have found it hard to find. >>=20 >> =46rom the Hyatt front door turn right, cross the first main road and = turn left at the second junction. >>=20 >> Head down that road and at the end cross over, and enter the building = opposite via the right hand of the two doors. There was a large mobile = phone advert over the door. >>=20 >> Go down the escalator one floor and the pub is directly ahead through = some clothes stalls. >=20 > Fun story from the place: A few of us arrived early and didn't > wind up at the rest of the chairs table. Me and =3DJeffH wanted > to duck out early and asked for our part of the bill. The waitress > nodded vigorously and ran off only to appear with an eager face > and .... wait for it .... > ^L^L^L > A handful of darts (!) >=20 > Exactly what part of our gesticulating translated to "want to > play darts" is forever lost. LOL I think I could help on this. Bill (in English) and dart (in Chinese) shared the same pronunciation. Joseph >=20 > Cheers Leif >=20 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >=20 > iEYEARECAAYFAk7DuvQACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZnciUgCfcKBClqsoV5wcBk431nisSTTo > nvQAnjEwwahrGUJL50/6nwWqFB+v1vZA > =3DWAqY > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From leifj@sunet.se Wed Nov 16 06:18:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0711721F946B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:18:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UGpNxLPzM6zJ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from backup-server.nordu.net (backup-server.nordu.net [IPv6:2001:948:4:1::66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3122F21F9463 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.64.184] (dhcp-40b8.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.64.184]) (authenticated bits=0) by backup-server.nordu.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAGEIBec018203 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:18:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EC3C622.1030301@sunet.se> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:18:10 +0100 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joseph Yee References: <3778E738-9E19-4971-A5A7-67FEDDE782A9@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC3BAF4.4030904@sunet.se> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Le Ble D'or X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:18:46 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/16/2011 03:16 PM, Joseph Yee wrote: > > > On 2011-11-16, at 8:30 AM, Leif Johansson wrote: > > On 11/16/2011 12:50 PM, Tim Chown wrote: >>>> Some have found it hard to find. >>>> >>>> From the Hyatt front door turn right, cross the first main >>>> road and turn left at the second junction. >>>> >>>> Head down that road and at the end cross over, and enter the >>>> building opposite via the right hand of the two doors. There >>>> was a large mobile phone advert over the door. >>>> >>>> Go down the escalator one floor and the pub is directly ahead >>>> through some clothes stalls. > > Fun story from the place: A few of us arrived early and didn't wind > up at the rest of the chairs table. Me and =JeffH wanted to duck > out early and asked for our part of the bill. The waitress nodded > vigorously and ran off only to appear with an eager face and .... > wait for it .... ^L^L^L A handful of darts (!) > > Exactly what part of our gesticulating translated to "want to play > darts" is forever lost. > >> LOL > >> I think I could help on this. > >> Bill (in English) and dart (in Chinese) shared the same >> pronunciation. > Fantastic! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7DxiIACgkQ8Jx8FtbMZndG9wCdFVGhgXPbYWeZqnFUfU1+dHhC Vn4An0KTpIZgm9xHCPpnpLogz9BxoG8t =2w2a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From johnl@iecc.com Wed Nov 16 06:19:47 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F4921F946E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:19:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.582 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.582 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.018, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QiIdDgaaX2Ll for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E4021F938E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:19:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5826 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2011 14:19:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=16c1.4ec3c67a.k1111; bh=7UMkfoVM4Q6EvDik81TV2uoyjwLV2Z6P7PNx9aQ11gg=; b=VKJtLcxqhpQ9ohQ1XxBnqCvD4S/hZcHNIVYvIIDPH6v975moAid+etnjDU7LyN9A2mm2daCeDmR78qW1G9GjGLNBw1luVoFmytu3NgHnwskkRu9DXfrCjosL3eH/f5X2tjf4EmDBQQaZPA6j5Z/oGFRsXgPzCb+wfmBUQ7W/wbI= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 16 Nov 2011 14:19:16 -0000 Date: 16 Nov 2011 22:19:35 +0800 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Tim Chown" In-Reply-To: References: <3778E738-9E19-4971-A5A7-67FEDDE782A9@ecs.soton.ac.uk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Le Ble D'or X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:19:47 -0000 > From the Hyatt front door turn right, cross the first main road and turn left at the second junction. > > Head down that road and at the end cross over, and enter the building opposite via the right hand of the two doors. There was a large mobile phone advert over the door. That's the Eslite book store, easily identifiable by large signs near the top. > Go down the escalator one floor and the pub is directly ahead through some clothes stalls. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From spencer@wonderhamster.org Wed Nov 16 06:28:53 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191181F0C4B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:28:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.98 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.98 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.619, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0s2Kkei8aScm for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E6121F958B for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 06:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.102.36] (61-220-70-183.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.220.70.183]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MQRKW-1RL97F42hQ-00UDyF; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:28:51 -0500 Message-ID: <4EC3C89E.1070809@wonderhamster.org> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:28:46 -0600 From: Spencer Dawkins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <3778E738-9E19-4971-A5A7-67FEDDE782A9@ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:S9a1pO7o/8k3Nqsk7aEeczrDPI5AXn2xsqGvvqRe2ds mRVZzYCSE1TxLKKrk4F2glb1cYCVSHFWTmq79SMsiwRCe/W3qU lPinHr4VbMPajAtDaYlRBNaJI9d9llSj8dWIXL/f9KnlMLrA4l +Gt6CtyeRr0jmXv3Brpbq3lfD05mXWTWKUJG7XIIhvcL49Q4qq DKCnfsf1vzFlfni6GYkI5nSVK3jcq803X6quobou1z6SCm8UQf +6QyVDC8UKZGw7nwLcHQK4omUSjKz9RQFgzbIWQ9ccy2i+V2VD 19fhMlbgXAp8xtJgWs2uapOnuz/30nb2sDVHMEBr/2E/w+lOUp i2w72vnm1xbgKQtEd+ARBaAZD1H3lhGqgINDWeP7U Subject: Re: [82attendees] Le Ble D'or X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:28:53 -0000 On 11/16/2011 5:50 AM, Tim Chown wrote: > Some have found it hard to find. > >> From the Hyatt front door turn right, cross the first main road and turn left at the second junction. > > Head down that road and at the end cross over, and enter the building opposite via the right hand of the two doors. There was a large mobile phone advert over the door. > > Go down the escalator one floor and the pub is directly ahead through some clothes stalls. I thought this was a slightly better than average IETF until I saw the pub directions that included "directly ahead through some clothes stalls". Now, I think it's an AWESOME IETF! Thanks for sharing! 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Levine" To: "Spencer Dawkins" In-Reply-To: <4EC3C89E.1070809@wonderhamster.org> References: <3778E738-9E19-4971-A5A7-67FEDDE782A9@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC3C89E.1070809@wonderhamster.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Le Ble D'or X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:35:37 -0000 > I thought this was a slightly better than average IETF until I saw the pub > directions that included "directly ahead through some clothes stalls". Now, I > think it's an AWESOME IETF! Eslite is supposed to be one of the best bookstores in Taipei, and has a lot of other stuff too. I looked around and it's not a bad place for a shopping expedition. They're featuring the new Steve Jobs book in English, Chinese, or recorded on CDs. 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Has anyone = a recommendation near the ietf? =20 Regards, =20 Alexander _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees ------=_NextPart_001_0021_01CCA463.BA157DF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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=ABH=B8q= =B8=DB=AB~: Eslite

http://go.eslite= .com/EventBySponsor.aspx?id=3D2

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another one is for 24 hr

http://go.eslite= .com/EventBySponsor.aspx?id=3D1

 

 

always

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Ting-Yun = Chi (=AC=F6=A7= =CA=B9B)

R&D Division, National IPv6 = Deployment & Development Program

Email: = louk@louk.dyndns.org

 

Dependable Distributed System and Networks Lab. =

Department of Electrical Engineering National Taiwan = University, Taipei, Taiwan, R.O.C.

Mobile: = +886-933994032

LAB TEL: +886-2-3366-3700 #6611

 

Ask not what the team can do for = you, ask what you can do for the team.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: = 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On = Behalf Of Alexander Knauf
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:15 = PM
To: 82attendees@ietf.org
Subject: [82attendees] Bookstore near = ietf

 

Hi,

 

I am looking for a large bookstore to buy some Chinese = books. Has anyone a recommendation near the = ietf?

 

Regards,

 

Alexander

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List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:47:47 -0000 Yeap. The Xinyi branch is the flagship store of the Eslite. Another legend is their DunHwa S. branch, which runs 24 hours a day. Enjoy it. -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of John R. Levineit. Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:35 PM To: Spencer Dawkins Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Le Ble D'or > I thought this was a slightly better than average IETF until I saw the > pub directions that included "directly ahead through some clothes > stalls". Now, I think it's an AWESOME IETF! Eslite is supposed to be one of the best bookstores in Taipei, and has a lot of other stuff too. I looked around and it's not a bad place for a shopping expedition. They're featuring the new Steve Jobs book in English, Chinese, or recorded on CDs. R's, John _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rcwang@nttu.edu.tw Wed Nov 16 09:55:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31C6721F94C1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:55:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 3.855 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.855 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.982, BAYES_50=0.001, CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADER=3.2, HELO_EQ_TW=1.335, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SNx5KuGY+GUO for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.nttu.edu.tw (smtp.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.172.137]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 419E721F938A for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from vm2ccrd (pc177-176.nttu.edu.tw [210.240.177.176]) by smtp.nttu.edu.tw with ESMTP id pAGHtUFj063227 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:55:30 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from rcwang@nttu.edu.tw) From: =?big5?B?pP2n1Kao?= To: <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:51:25 +0800 Message-ID: <017101cca488$5c117fe0$14347fa0$@edu.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0172_01CCA4CB.6A34BFE0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcykiFufOX1/QKPNTNSdmqJdKk+e5Q== Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pAGHtUFj063227 Subject: [82attendees] Freinds for eating X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:55:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01CCA4CB.6A34BFE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, =20 As a local guy and a food lover, I would like to ask is there any = gourmet want to go for lunch with me on Thursday? I can take you to a good Taiwanese style Beijing restaurant nearby. Not = in the hotel or any food court. =20 Here are some rules: 1. You don=A1=A6t want to join the lunch speech tomorrow. 2. Maximum 9 person. I cannot handle too much people. So, FCFS, = reply to my email privately if you are interesting and I=A1=A6ll tell you = where we can meet each other.=20 3. No food taboo. So, sorry for those vegetarians and who only = takes halal foods. 4. You are willing to share foods with others. In Taiwan, we always share foods with friends and families on the same table. 5. Share the cost. Estimate NT$300-NT$400 per person. Depend on how hungry we are.=20 =20 Also, I am thinking about having fresh local seafood for Thursday = dinner. For those who is interesting, please email me too. No more than 15 = persons for dinner. And the price is about NT$600-800 per person. =20 Please note you want to join the lunch or the dinner in your email. =20 Regards, Reen-Cheng Wang ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01CCA4CB.6A34BFE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear = all,

 

As a local guy and a food lover, I would like to ask is = there any gourmet want to go for lunch with me on = Thursday?

I = can take you to a good Taiwanese style Beijing restaurant nearby. Not in = the hotel or any food court.

 

Here are some = rules:

1.      = You don=A1=A6t want to = join the lunch speech tomorrow.

2.      = Maximum 9 person. I = cannot handle too much people. So, FCFS, reply to my email privately if = you are interesting and I=A1=A6ll tell you where we can meet each other. =

3.      = No food taboo. So, = sorry for those vegetarians and who only takes halal = foods.

4.      = You are willing to = share foods with others. In Taiwan, we always share foods with friends = and families on the same table.

5.      = Share the cost. = Estimate NT$300-NT$400 per person. Depend on how hungry we are. =

 

Also, I am thinking about having fresh local seafood for = Thursday dinner. For those who is interesting, please email me too. No = more than 15 persons for dinner. And the price is about NT$600-800 per = person.

 

Please note you want to join the lunch or the dinner in = your email.

 

Regards,

Reen-Cheng Wang

------=_NextPart_000_0172_01CCA4CB.6A34BFE0-- From yrz@anche.no Wed Nov 16 16:15:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A227411E808F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:15:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 75axCsxOHAIt for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:15:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rivolta.investici.org (rivolta.investici.org [78.46.89.173]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B8211E8086 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:15:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail8.autistici.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rivolta.investici.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6292210A18C for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:15:35 +0000 (UTC) X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 rivolta.investici.org 6292210A18C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anche.no; s=stigmate; t=1321488935; bh=b69V5t3KQvznbWhLqEkNaJNcMED5S4tGrB42kmjfYo0=; h=MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Date:From:To: Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Message-ID; b=GfGCs/bJgd2OHkJgygaUaoYnfW7pUV086JzTkkBv5EPYe6L/jHcJbjR8yv86rngIA R7s653wxqWpvqBSVm4UjfgrPbfiQoXh/Nm2byNZ0JlCOJTNcO+qvtaIGlCf6Hp4GVm NV+Tac3e+PWCaCWfOkMuo62o7Sn0ARja/h3/2r9g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:15:35 +0200 From: pierpaolo giacomin To: <82attendees@ietf.org> In-Reply-To: <017101cca488$5c117fe0$14347fa0$@edu.tw> References: <017101cca488$5c117fe0$14347fa0$@edu.tw> Message-ID: <30986063e949444e0b845ebef8fc7d2c@autistici.org> X-Sender: yrz@anche.no User-Agent: autistici.org webmail Subject: Re: [82attendees] Freinds for eating X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:15:40 -0000 Dear Reen-Cheng Wang, I'm interested for lunch, but I've a concern: I need to be at the TICC until 11:30 and starting from 15:00. Will we manage? Anyway, is there still room available for lunch today? I'm very interested also for dinner, but still not sure I will make it, what would be the time slot? Thank you very much in advance for the wonderful offer, Pierpaolo On 16.11.2011 19:51, 王忍成 wrote: > Dear all, > > As a local guy and a food lover, I would like to ask is there any > gourmet want to go for lunch with me on Thursday? > > I can take you to a good Taiwanese style Beijing restaurant nearby. > Not in the hotel or any food court. > > Here are some rules: > > 1. You don’t want to join the lunch speech tomorrow. > > 2. Maximum 9 person. I cannot handle too much people. So, FCFS, reply > to my email privately if you are interesting and I’ll tell you where > we can meet each other. > > 3. No food taboo. So, sorry for those vegetarians and who only takes > halal foods. > > 4. You are willing to share foods with others. In Taiwan, we always > share foods with friends and families on the same table. > > 5. Share the cost. Estimate NT$300-NT$400 per person. Depend on how > hungry we are. > > Also, I am thinking about having fresh local seafood for Thursday > dinner. For those who is interesting, please email me too. No more > than 15 persons for dinner. And the price is about NT$600-800 per > person. > > Please note you want to join the lunch or the dinner in your email. > > Regards, > > Reen-Cheng Wang From sakimura@gmail.com Wed Nov 16 16:47:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F87311E808F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:47:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.221 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.221 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.378, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nfV5Cx27nD5y for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6583311E8086 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:47:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by faap16 with SMTP id p16so2860193faa.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:47:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=g9OSh8Mm0ccT1tt154G/mV10N0hl8XMbZfbmgz/uagw=; b=w5AXOLAG8MpjxvuwKazzlXuEF87SDoeedUUaZENFZkvesssjbKR/Cqm0/MCAkaS6bx Wwtb45it3ohdewaARXbxVj2EyH8/A9EbVMia7nIXMGJriJJbNybfqK9k8FOTDuw2SmmU iCRZhofjn+jpxIgbXTtHspExaWqbUCbMCsTsc= Received: by 10.152.144.2 with SMTP id si2mr21817437lab.8.1321490857483; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:47:37 -0800 (PST) References: <4EC22B42.6070908@dcrocker.net> <4EC22E8C.40105@isi.edu> From: Nat Sakimura In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:47:37 +0800 Message-ID: <-7914913293624496224@unknownmsgid> To: "John R. Levine" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Humberto Galiza , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Old dollar bill not recognized at airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:47:39 -0000 John is right about counterfeit bill. In addition, anybody outside of the US does not have to accept US dollar bill even if it is a real one. It is a legal tender in the US but is not outside. The US law does not extend beyond its border. Nat Sakimura On 2011/11/15, at 18:09, "John R. Levine" wrote: > The US has never recalled or revalued its currency, so every coin and bil= l ever issued by the US government remains legal tender. > > But: most of the US currency by value is $100 bills, and most of the $100= bills are outside the US, widely used as a store of value in countries whe= re residents don't trust the local currency. Not surprisingly, there are a= lso a lot of counterfeit $100 bills in circulation, particularly of the old= er series that don't have the anti-forgery features of the new bills produc= ed since 1996. (There's a new series 2010 bill that hasn't been released y= et because the anti-forgery features are so complex that they can't reliabl= y print the bills!) > > The bank is refusing your $100 because they think they think it may be co= unterfeit, or at least they're unable to persuade themselves that it's not.= I suspect all the banks in Taiwan have similar rules. Joe's point about = legal tender is irrelevant, since nobody has to accept a counterfeit bill. > > Assuming your bill actually isn't counterfeit, perhaps one of the America= ns at the conference would be willing to swap it for five $20s which are ea= sier to negotiate here. > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dum= mies", > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From wesley.george@twcable.com Wed Nov 16 18:23:12 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462091F0C5E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:23:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.921 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.921 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.542, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q3kmdH4L648z for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdpipgw01.twcable.com (cdpipgw01.twcable.com [165.237.59.22]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD7D1F0C54 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 18:22:58 -0800 (PST) X-SENDER-IP: 10.136.163.12 X-SENDER-REPUTATION: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,523,1315195200"; d="scan'208";a="298424911" Received: from unknown (HELO PRVPEXHUB03.corp.twcable.com) ([10.136.163.12]) by cdpipgw01.twcable.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 16 Nov 2011 21:18:25 -0500 Received: from PRVPEXVS03.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.26]) by PRVPEXHUB03.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.12]) with mapi; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:22:57 -0500 From: "George, Wes" To: "John R. Levine" , Spencer Dawkins Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:23:23 -0500 Thread-Topic: Eslite bookstore and restaurant (was RE: [82attendees] Le Ble D'or) Thread-Index: AcykbQYEVU7vlekxR3S+aEV3WOlsSAAYmCSg Message-ID: References: <3778E738-9E19-4971-A5A7-67FEDDE782A9@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC3C89E.1070809@wonderhamster.org> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: [82attendees] Eslite bookstore and restaurant (was RE: Le Ble D'or) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:23:12 -0000 > > Eslite is supposed to be one of the best bookstores in Taipei, and has > a lot of other stuff too. > > [insert witty but geeky joke about DSLite here] There's also a good Shanghai/Szechwan restaurant called Fifi on the 6th flo= or of the same bldg. Try the danpo pork. Wes George This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the u= se of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the= intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissem= ination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents= of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawf= ul. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender imm= ediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail an= d any printout. 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X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:15:31 -0000 On 11-11-15 13:39, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > Hi, > > you wanna be more energy friendly during the meeting days? Don't step > on the white "play buttons" on red carpets but make a short jump or walk > around them in the TICC if you can. -- If you cannot or do not want to > then please wait until the person in front of you is off if (s)he had > decided to. There's a bug in the escalator software. Steps to reproduce: 1. approach red arrow with not moving escalator 2. jump over (escalaor does not start as expected) 3. move downstair using the old fasioned way 4. walk on the "exit" arrow. Escalator will start moving. It will stop after 3-4 seconds, but it shouldn't move in the first place. This bug is not exploitable. You can't step on the exit arrow to stop already moving escalator. That would be too obvious. Cheers, Tomek From matthew@matthew.at Wed Nov 16 23:31:33 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9676B11E813C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:31:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.43 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.43 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_AT=0.424, HOST_EQ_AT=0.745] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pQuBX+aRy4mH for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:31:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from where.matthew.at (where.matthew.at [198.202.199.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4137311E8114 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:31:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-103b.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-103b.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.16.59]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by where.matthew.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CD8230002 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:31:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC4B84E.40202@matthew.at> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:31:26 +0800 From: Matthew Kaufman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [82attendees] chairs (the physical kind) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:31:33 -0000 I will note that the chairs at this venue are far superior to the chairs at the last venue. We should make part of the pre-survey be "sit in one of the chairs for 4 days straight". Matthew Kaufman From mlepinski@bbn.com Wed Nov 16 23:38:10 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC5D11E8140 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:38:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HTqpYgxyl6bP for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:38:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.bbn.com (smtp.bbn.com [128.33.0.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D534611E813F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:38:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.89.254.94] (port=1185) by smtp.bbn.com with esmtps (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.74 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RQwXw-0007l3-Sp for 82attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:38:09 -0500 Message-ID: <4EC4B9DD.1020005@bbn.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:38:05 -0500 From: Matt Lepinski User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EC4B84E.40202@matthew.at> In-Reply-To: <4EC4B84E.40202@matthew.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] chairs (the physical kind) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:38:10 -0000 I agree. Excellent chairs in this venue. We spend a lot of time sitting down at these IETF meetings and so it is really nice when we get good chairs. - Matt Lepinski On 11/17/2011 2:31 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: > I will note that the chairs at this venue are far superior to the > chairs at the last venue. > > We should make part of the pre-survey be "sit in one of the chairs for > 4 days straight". > > Matthew Kaufman > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Wed Nov 16 23:39:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD84A11E814B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:39:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AXfZAe8lj11e for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C823611E8147 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:39:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAH7d6mH028105; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:39:06 GMT X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk pAH7d6mH028105 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=ecs.soton.ac.uk; s=200903; t=1321515546; bh=eEoK7aKWy/N5h9MG8aN4Q5Fd9oM=; h=References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To; b=RxZhx7jrWlmKohtMG0KHnbn3ClTIXEXKXd41GESu4KtDTjd7i7fxO+FRfsYZ2Ih7/ PTHz2vjvWVHaO287+WsMfUmYiLXr2k7SWJz1y1bDXmSuPSHzdWrQTq7hgFXuXdBTEr 26gmnv0oN0Zd3Xl5H2CE5rcQ+vZppu9HXPDsNpiU= Received: from gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk ([2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:401]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:68da]) envelope-from with ESMTP id nAG7d60543713126oE ret-id none; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:39:06 +0000 Received: from [130.129.22.66] (dhcp-1642.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.22.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAH7ctRx001968 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:38:57 GMT References: <4EC4B84E.40202@matthew.at> <3126F211-AE25-4438-9230-1441251B317C@ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4EC4B84E.40202@matthew.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A405) From: Tim Chown Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:38:52 +0000 To: Matthew Kaufman X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-smtpf-Report: sid=nAG7d6054371312600; tid=nAG7d60543713126oE; client=relay,forged,no_ptr,ipv6; mail=; rcpt=; nrcpt=2:0; fails=0 X-ECS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ECS-MailScanner-ID: pAH7d6mH028105 X-ECS-MailScanner-From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] chairs (the physical kind) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:39:11 -0000 And the ones in 3F appear to have been taken from a palace... I've just visited 3F for the first time, it has a rather different ambience t= han the other rooms. Tim On 17 Nov 2011, at 07:31, Matthew Kaufman wrote: > I will note that the chairs at this venue are far superior to the chairs a= t the last venue. >=20 > We should make part of the pre-survey be "sit in one of the chairs for 4 d= ays straight". >=20 > Matthew Kaufman > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From matthew@matthew.at Wed Nov 16 23:40:34 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF3311E814F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:40:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.43 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.43 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_AT=0.424, HOST_EQ_AT=0.745] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xpCJC6iE7DUk for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from where.matthew.at (where.matthew.at [198.202.199.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8517511E814D for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-103b.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-103b.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.16.59]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by where.matthew.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C107148027; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:40:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC4BA6D.7070203@matthew.at> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:40:29 +0800 From: Matthew Kaufman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Chown References: <4EC4B84E.40202@matthew.at> <3126F211-AE25-4438-9230-1441251B317C@ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] chairs (the physical kind) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:40:35 -0000 On 11/17/11 3:38 PM, Tim Chown wrote: > And the ones in 3F appear to have been taken from a palace... > Yes, 3F are *especially* nice, but none of them have caused the pain I experienced in Quebec. Matthew Kaufman From lars.eggert@nokia.com Wed Nov 16 23:51:55 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 224011F0CD6 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:51:55 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.664 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.664 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u+sogfOLXGok for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mgw-da02.nokia.com (smtp.nokia.com [147.243.128.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313591F0C82 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:51:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.fit.nokia.com (esdhcp030222.research.nokia.com [172.21.30.222]) by mgw-da02.nokia.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id pAH7pSM4024735 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:51:29 +0200 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.2 at fit.nokia.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4A7B047C-E201-497A-B098-EC8ADD1F986E"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Lars Eggert In-Reply-To: <4EC4BA6D.7070203@matthew.at> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:51:14 +0800 Message-Id: References: <4EC4B84E.40202@matthew.at> <3126F211-AE25-4438-9230-1441251B317C@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC4BA6D.7070203@matthew.at> To: Matthew Kaufman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (mail.fit.nokia.com); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:51:20 +0200 (EET) X-Nokia-AV: Clean Cc: Tim Chown , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] chairs (the physical kind) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:51:55 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_4A7B047C-E201-497A-B098-EC8ADD1F986E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hilton chairs universally suck. 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<3126F211-AE25-4438-9230-1441251B317C@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC4BA6D.7070203@matthew.at> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <30E2CCC4-31E9-4BD4-B513-02D3719ACFB9@nostrum.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A405) From: Ben Campbell Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:05:32 +0800 To: Lars Eggert Received-SPF: pass (nostrum.com: 130.129.18.96 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: Tim Chown , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Matthew Kaufman Subject: Re: [82attendees] chairs (the physical kind) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:06:14 -0000 I'm going to have to be the dissenting voice here. I've found these chairs q= uite painful--at least as bad as Hilton chairs if not worse. Except for in 1= 02. On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Lars Eggert wrote: > Hilton chairs universally suck. >=20 > On 2011-11-17, at 15:40, Matthew Kaufman wrote: >=20 >> On 11/17/11 3:38 PM, Tim Chown wrote: >>> And the ones in 3F appear to have been taken from a palace... >>>=20 >>=20 >> Yes, 3F are *especially* nice, but none of them have caused the pain I ex= perienced in Quebec. >>=20 >> Matthew Kaufman >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From richard.barnes@gmail.com Thu Nov 17 00:10:21 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECC311E8112 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:10:21 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3RRlg55n0C4V for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:10:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED521F0CE7 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:10:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by eyg24 with SMTP id 24so1909927eyg.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:10:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=njqhpn435LPOfQtMP5DexVxw8omZOqBrLZeDZ9c4STI=; b=nHK25owGxbOx+ZZK3tJiyvPg+rh8FVhWpJ3U1aWxkAnCrm3fbp2ApY0AoRNiaQyFvq rfFrGx17UmQTFq7ltVjDHj1MgRhaq79gGoKfleFq8Yvn8mx4TF8g0COMKP77+rRxME47 ZhBk6EZeOp5HqBlGESgLzpGiZ3ScBsK9cy+MA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.15.90 with SMTP id e66mr2575183eee.135.1321517416732; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:10:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.185.144 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:10:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <30E2CCC4-31E9-4BD4-B513-02D3719ACFB9@nostrum.com> References: <4EC4B84E.40202@matthew.at> <3126F211-AE25-4438-9230-1441251B317C@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC4BA6D.7070203@matthew.at> <30E2CCC4-31E9-4BD4-B513-02D3719ACFB9@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:10:16 +0800 Message-ID: From: Richard Barnes To: Ben Campbell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Tim Chown , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org>, Lars Eggert , Matthew Kaufman Subject: Re: [82attendees] chairs (the physical kind) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:10:22 -0000 +1 Sitting on one of the fancy 3F chairs now. Looks pretty, feels like a lumpy piece of plywood. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Ben Campbell wrote: > I'm going to have to be the dissenting voice here. I've found these chairs quite painful--at least as bad as Hilton chairs if not worse. Except for in 102. > > On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Lars Eggert wrote: > >> Hilton chairs universally suck. >> >> On 2011-11-17, at 15:40, Matthew Kaufman wrote: >> >>> On 11/17/11 3:38 PM, Tim Chown wrote: >>>> And the ones in 3F appear to have been taken from a palace... >>>> >>> >>> Yes, 3F are *especially* nice, but none of them have caused the pain I experienced in Quebec. >>> >>> Matthew Kaufman >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 82attendees mailing list >>> 82attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca Thu Nov 17 00:10:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36D0A21F9992 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:10:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.469 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.469 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.130, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jDtSSSXO-ELN for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:10:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [206.123.31.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EC121F9855 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:10:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::80:4824:cbd0:67c7:90f5] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:80:4824:cbd0:67c7:90f5]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 158AC20E64 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:10:17 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) From: Marc Blanchet In-Reply-To: <30E2CCC4-31E9-4BD4-B513-02D3719ACFB9@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:10:15 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <987BDD9C-4C71-4075-A6A4-C0B2654F7FE3@viagenie.ca> References: <4EC4B84E.40202@matthew.at> <3126F211-AE25-4438-9230-1441251B317C@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC4BA6D.7070203@matthew.at> <30E2CCC4-31E9-4BD4-B513-02D3719ACFB9@nostrum.com> To: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: Re: [82attendees] chairs (the physical kind) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:10:50 -0000 while I might have an opinion on the quality of chairs of various = venues, I have a hard time thinking that the secretariat would have the = power to request to the large hotel or the convention center to replace = the standard 2-3 thousand chairs used for the typical meetings to better = ones (that most likely they do not own) for our meeting without major = $$$ impact on us. but, I'm not an event organizer so I might be wrong. Marc. Le 2011-11-17 =E0 16:05, Ben Campbell a =E9crit : > I'm going to have to be the dissenting voice here. I've found these = chairs quite painful--at least as bad as Hilton chairs if not worse. = Except for in 102. >=20 > On Nov 17, 2011, at 3:51 PM, Lars Eggert = wrote: >=20 >> Hilton chairs universally suck. >>=20 >> On 2011-11-17, at 15:40, Matthew Kaufman wrote: >>=20 >>> On 11/17/11 3:38 PM, Tim Chown wrote: >>>> And the ones in 3F appear to have been taken from a palace... >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Yes, 3F are *especially* nice, but none of them have caused the pain = I experienced in Quebec. >>>=20 >>> Matthew Kaufman >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 82attendees mailing list >>> 82attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From mamille2@cisco.com Thu Nov 17 00:11:22 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B15E11E8163 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:11:22 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mGIiDDvrNG0e for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57AF11E815E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:11:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=mamille2@cisco.com; l=4371; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321517480; x=1322727080; h=subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id: references:to; bh=UvKP70vVm2ohqNUdzdijyA5WtQxL2TZhYsZ29HR837k=; b=LVEtm+K6brs6MWVXIoUVqUdhl8XH/PqroD263/YUw+oc4EAopUwUYu7n 8KnXUQxl/O0/1EvCZC5QDQB3pBZSHf2grcra/xzddvWEODtmqyIGo+3we /PAdqaJ4fVuwcv9yvsSzTGAeRPfaATWm5wPAeDOqK/nil8NKNWo6H4BHP E=; X-Files: smime.p7s : 2214 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkkFAIXBxE6rRDoI/2dsb2JhbABCpxmCZoEFgXIBAQEDARIBZgULCxguAlUGEyKHYJUCAZ43iTRjBIgTjCKFO4xO X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,525,1315180800"; d="p7s'?scan'208";a="14734370" Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2011 08:11:02 +0000 Received: from [10.21.76.31] ([10.21.76.31]) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAH8B1Ah028381; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:11:01 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--387122577; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 From: Matt Miller In-Reply-To: <30E2CCC4-31E9-4BD4-B513-02D3719ACFB9@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:11:00 +0800 Message-Id: References: <4EC4B84E.40202@matthew.at> <3126F211-AE25-4438-9230-1441251B317C@ecs.soton.ac.uk> <4EC4BA6D.7070203@matthew.at> <30E2CCC4-31E9-4BD4-B513-02D3719ACFB9@nostrum.com> To: Ben Campbell X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] chairs (the physical kind) X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:11:22 -0000 --Apple-Mail-1--387122577 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I would say this location is bipolar as far as seating is concerned. = Some spots are nice (e.g. 102), some are tolerable (e.g. 4F VIP), and = some are painful (e.g. 201ABCD). - m&m Matt Miller - Collaboration Software Group - Cisco Systems, Inc. On Nov 17, 2011, at 16:05, Ben Campbell wrote: > I'm going to have to be the dissenting voice here. 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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0122_01CCA544.97EFDC20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcylAYmCYIOq/+d4Sq2Y7nsiT1Ma+g== Content-Language: zh-tw X-MAIL: smtp.nttu.edu.tw pAH8Mk2H031096 Subject: [82attendees] Seafood dinner last call X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:22:50 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0122_01CCA544.97EFDC20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear all, Since I have to confirm my reservation for the seafood dinner tonight before 17:00, for those who are still considering or interesting to join, please give me your final decision before 16:50. We will depart at 19:50 to the Northsea Fishing Village for really fresh seafood by taxi. Taiwanese style seafood is something you must try when you are here. As you know, Taiwan is a small island around by the pacific ocean and other seas. You will never regret for joining us. Regards, Reen-Cheng Wang ------=_NextPart_000_0122_01CCA544.97EFDC20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear = all,

 

Since I have to confirm my reservation for the seafood = dinner tonight before 17:00, for those who are still considering or = interesting to join, please give me your final decision before 16:50. We = will depart at 19:50 to the Northsea Fishing Village for really fresh = seafood by taxi. Taiwanese style seafood is something you must try when = you are here. As you know, Taiwan is a small island around by the = pacific ocean and other seas. You will never regret for joining = us.

 

Regards,

Reen-Cheng Wang

 

------=_NextPart_000_0122_01CCA544.97EFDC20-- From randy@psg.com Thu Nov 17 00:27:27 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D68311E817C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:27:27 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.44 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.141, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x8Fa13T9nkG0 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF8611E817E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RQxJd-000Bdr-0P; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:27:25 +0000 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:27:23 +0800 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: =?BIG5?Q?=A4=FD=A7=D4=A6=A8?= In-Reply-To: <012101cca501$89cc9c20$9d65d460$@edu.tw> References: <012101cca501$89cc9c20$9d65d460$@edu.tw> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] Seafood dinner last call X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:27:27 -0000 i have a conflict preventing me from going to reen-cheng's seafood dinner. but i had the privilege of joining him for lunch and coffee. based on that, i definitely recommend joining him for dinner. randy From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Thu Nov 17 00:39:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F88721F9A2A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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If anyone is interested, please let me know.) -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Computers ... are not designed, as we are, for ambiguity. --Thomas From maestro@samsung.com Thu Nov 17 00:54:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9115821F9A98 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:54:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.746 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.746 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RELAY_IS_203=0.994] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id flc40h3SglpB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:54:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout1.samsung.com (mailout1.samsung.com [203.254.224.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C5521F9A97 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 00:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from epcpsbgm2.samsung.com (mailout1.samsung.com [203.254.224.24]) by mailout1.samsung.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-19.01 64bit (built Sep 7 2010)) with ESMTP id <0LUS002VSRDG87Q0@mailout1.samsung.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:54:22 +0900 (KST) X-AuditID: cbfee61b-b7b7fae000005864-57-4ec4cbbe8758 Received: from epmmp2 ( [203.254.227.17]) by epcpsbgm2.samsung.com (MMPCPMTA) with SMTP id 48.E0.22628.EBBC4CE4; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:54:22 +0900 (KST) Received: from WIN2S6GFPPB3BB ([109.210.1.83]) by mmp2.samsung.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-19.01 64bit (built Sep 7 2010)) with ESMTPA id <0LUS000YARELBF00@mmp2.samsung.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 17:54:22 +0900 (KST) From: Gyubong Oh To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <1321293502.38587.YahooMailNeo@web160712.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <29169661-5A3F-4F5F-B7CF-F27634800695@aalto.fi> In-reply-to: <29169661-5A3F-4F5F-B7CF-F27634800695@aalto.fi> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:54:08 +0800 Message-id: <09b901cca506$788d1340$69a739c0$@com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-index: AQHMo4VlMmXyRjdkRkSZblBk8MyyX5WttSEAgAMNllA= Content-language: ko X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:54:25 -0000 Hi all, I am planning to buy new 3G mobile phone in Guanghua Digital Plaza = tonight. One question,=20 Is there anybody from US, Europe and other country to have bought new = mobile phone 3G in Taiwan? I am not sure whether Taiwan Mobile phone is SIM-free and unlocked for = worldwide activation?=20 Thanks, GB -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Manner Jukka Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 8:05 PM To: Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) Cc: ; ; Maaz Rehan; = <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search AFAIK, the proposed price is pretty close to what you are supposed to = pay - this is not the Beijing pricing. ;) Yet, as an example, one camera we were looking at cost 11400 in one shop = and another offered it for 10800. It was also being sold as used in = another store for 9000. Price in Finland would have been around 12000, = so not a major deal considering you loose the warranty. Jukka On Nov 15, 2011, at 6:57 PM, Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon) = wrote: > Hi, > =20 > A general question about the digital market =E2=80=93 is this like the = markets in Beijing where you have to bargain and the initial price that = the vendor offers is 4 or 5 times the actual price or is it like an = American store where the price is the real final price? > =20 > Just so I know what to expect! > =20 > Thanx > yaacov > =20 > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Maaz Rehan > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 7:58 PM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Cc: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com; liuhongyfw@chinamobile.com; = jukka.manner@aalto.fi > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search > =20 > Hi Dear Concerned, > =20 > Thanks for pointing us to Guanghua Digital Plaza. We have gone there = and purchased Toys from the 4th Floor. > =20 > ROUTE: > 1. Take 'Bus No. Blue 5 from near Taipei 101' or Bus No. = 537/669/270/281/263/263/266 nearby Hyatt. > 2. Go to Taipei City Hall. > 3. Take MRT and drop at Station #5. > 4. Go out of the station from Exit #1. > 5. When you are Outside, take U turn. At the intersection, take LEFT = turn. On the left side after there will be a While/Gray Big Plaza. > 6. That is the Guanghua Digital Plaza. > =20 > It is full of IT related Shops. Some Good Toys can be found at the 4th = Floor. > =20 > The woman over there is strict, show her the 'Meet Taiwan Card' given = at the T-Shirt Desk. You can get around 10% discount. > =20 > Best Regards. =20 >=20 > Muhammad Maaz Rehan > Assistant Professor > Department of Computer Science > COMSATS Institute of Information Technology > Quaid Avenue, The Mall, WAH CANTT > http://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html=20 > Mobile: +92 333 997 4992 > =20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "liuhongyfw@chinamobile.com" > To: Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com > Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org; jukka.manner@aalto.fi; maazrehan@yahoo.com > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:10 AM > Subject: Re: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search >=20 > =20 > unfortunately it is not marked in google map =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=E6=82=A8=E5=9C=A8=E6=9D=A5=E4=BF=A1=E4=B8=AD=E5=86=99= =E5=88=B0=EF=BC=9A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > There is a 'toys101' shop 10 min walk from the Shangri-la. It's not a = market, it's a regular shop with toys for kids ~1-6yo. Relatively cheap. > The night market near the Hyatt has a few toy shops too, but toys101 = looked more attractive than the ones in the night market. > -gabor >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Manner Jukka > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2011 12:12 AM > To: Maaz Rehan > Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [82attendees] Toys/Electronics Market Search >=20 > Hi, I'm not local but this web site had good information and we = visited the Guang Hwa today. Lots of electronics shops. >=20 > = http://pacejmiller.com/2010/01/23/shopping-for-electronics-and-toys-in-ta= ipei/ >=20 > Comparing the prices, I could find most items of interest (much) = cheaper back home. >=20 > Jukka >=20 > On Nov 14, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Maaz Rehan wrote: >=20 > > Hi All, > > > > Can anybody, Local here, can guide where is the Market for Toys and = Electronics? > > > > I shall be thankful for this convenience. > > > > Best Regards. > > > > Muhammad Maaz Rehan > > Assistant Professor > > Department of Computer Science > > COMSATS Institute of Information Technology Quaid Avenue, The Mall, > > WAH CANTT http://www.ciitwah.edu.pk/home/department/CS.html > > Mobile: +92 333 997 4992 > > _______________________________________________ > > 82attendees mailing list > > 82attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees >=20 >=20 > Best regards, > Hong LIU > 3GPP Lead > Research Institute, China Mobile > ************************************************ > Tel : +86 10 66006688-3117 > Fax : +86 10 63600340 > Mobile : +86 13501093376 > E-mail : liuhongyfw@chinamobile.com > Address: 53A,Xibianmennei Ave.,Xuanwu District, > Beijing,100053 China > ************************************************ _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From maazrehan@yahoo.com Thu Nov 17 01:22:59 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2767821F9A50 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:22:54 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.325013 References: <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CBFE6474@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se> <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CC30BB23@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se> Message-ID: <1321521774.74945.YahooMailNeo@web160707.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:22:54 -0800 (PST) From: Maaz Rehan To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1411518567-453709129-1321521774=:74945" Subject: [82attendees] Economical Bus Trip to Airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maaz Rehan List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:22:59 -0000 ---1411518567-453709129-1321521774=:74945 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear All,=0A=0AThe Bus takes 90 minutes at minimum to take you from Hyatt t= o the Airport @ the cost of NT$145. So you need to leave Hyatt 4 hours befo= re flight (on safe side).=0A=0A=0AThe tickets are available at the Hyatt Lo= bby Counter or exactly NT$145 can also be given to the Bus driver.=0A=0ABus= Stop:=0AAir Bus can be found after every half-an-hour in front of Hyatt Ga= te that opens towards the Taipei 101 (where Big Wooden Ball is placed). Plz= ask for the stop from the Hyatt Lobby counter as well.=0A=0A=A0=0ABest Reg= ards.=A0 =0A=0AMuhammad Maaz Rehan=0AMobile: +92 333 997 4992=0A=0A=0A_____= ___________________________=0AFrom: Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) =0ATo: 82attendees@ietf.org=0ASent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 = 11:10 AM=0ASubject: [82attendees] Taxi to Airport=0A=0AHeading back to Airp= ort around 4 pm (flight @ 730 pm). =0AAnyone interesting in sharing the Tax= i to the Airport ?=0A=0AThanks=0AMouli=0A__________________________________= _____________=0A82attendees mailing list=0A82attendees@ietf.org=0Ahttps://w= ww.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees ---1411518567-453709129-1321521774=:74945 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear All,

<= span>The Bus takes 90 minutes at minimum to take you from Hyatt to the Airp= ort @ the cost of NT$145. So you need to leave Hyatt 4 hours before flight = (on safe side).

The = tickets are available at the Hyatt Lobby Counter or exactly NT$145 can also= be given to the Bus driver.

Bus Stop:
Air Bus can be found after every= half-an-hour in front of Hyatt Gate that opens towards the Taipei 101 (whe= re Big Wooden Ball is placed). Plz ask for the stop from the Hyatt Lobby co= unter as well.
 
= Best Regards.=  

Muhammad Maaz Rehan<= /span>
Mobile: <= /span>+92 333 997 4992

From: Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) <moulchan@c= isco.com>
To: 82atte= ndees@ietf.org
Sent: Th= ursday, November 17, 2011 11:10 AM
Subject: [82attendees] Taxi to Airport

Heading ba= ck to Airport around 4 pm (flight @ 730 pm).
Anyone interesting in shar= ing the Taxi to the Airport ?

Thanks
Mouli
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---1411518567-453709129-1321521774=:74945-- From stpeter@stpeter.im Thu Nov 17 02:24:50 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C220C21F9BC6 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:24:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mocBVqmwY0qT for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE9421F9BC5 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-1422.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [130.129.20.34]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6EB20421AB for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:31:08 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4EC4E0ED.7030207@stpeter.im> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:24:45 +0800 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [82attendees] MeetingWiki account creation X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:24:50 -0000 It's late in the week so perhaps I'm missing something, but how does one create an account on the MeetingWiki? /psa From stpeter@stpeter.im Thu Nov 17 02:33:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDE621F9A67 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:33:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.553 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.553 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.046, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wxxpuxi+HHt9 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:33:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27E921F9B5A for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-1422.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [130.129.20.34]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A2D8421AB; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:40:10 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4EC4E30E.7010702@stpeter.im> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:33:50 +0800 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Gellens References: <4EC4E0ED.7030207@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.3 OpenPGP: url=https://stpeter.im/stpeter.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] MeetingWiki account creation X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:33:59 -0000 On 11/17/11 6:31 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 6:24 PM +0800 11/17/11, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > >> It's late in the week so perhaps I'm missing something, but how does one >> create an account on the MeetingWiki? > > I believe you have an account by virtue of having registered, and if I > recall correctly, just log in using the email address you used to > register as your user name, and your registration number as the initial > password. Right, Alexa noted that to me offlist. That's mentioned at http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/doku.php but not on the login page or any other page, thus my confusion. Thanks! Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Thu Nov 17 02:44:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E532021F9BA6 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:44:48 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.373 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.373 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.226, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C9EhSrBSIDD2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:44:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB7821F9BA8 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:44:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1321526683; x=1353062683; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:cc:content-type:x-random-sig-tag; z=Message-Id:=20|In-Reply-To:=20<4EC4E30E.7010702@stpeter.im> |References:=20<4EC4E0ED.7030207@stpeter.im>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20<4 EC4E30E.7010702@stpeter.im>|X-Mailer:=20Eudora=20for=20Ma c=20OS=20X|Date:=20Thu,=2017=20Nov=202011=2002:44:17=20-0 800|To:=20Peter=20Saint-Andre=20 |From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20 |Subject:=20Re:=20[82attendees]=20MeetingWiki=20account =20creation|Cc:=20"82attendees@ietf.org"=20<82attendees@i etf.org>|Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-as cii"=20=3B=20format=3D"flowed"|X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28; bh=giatNcDekwiP3i7iwemMsIjfhMV2YapxwqBrT6QH+sw=; b=G4wq/lXB1YufJF9ZM66RCOuDr2UrLOkWrEFUKjk0EV0HaSqJ2Tj2oNIY KuK4Mt5oby0O2r9RkjQ6mRdrQ4m2IdupTdBPwKNHp3VSANgy7Ak4gVXTm QQCyft7neDdfq1aC1gTYnAZ04LEk8TWyEon24TCg7xpthadjwIBc0yLYI c=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6532"; a="136135726" Received: from ironmsg04-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.19]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2011 02:44:43 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,524,1315206000"; d="scan'208";a="116631792" Received: from warlock.qualcomm.com ([129.46.50.49]) by Ironmsg04-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 17 Nov 2011 02:44:43 -0800 Received: from dhcp-44e5.meeting.ietf.org (myvpn-r-03674.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.12.48]) by warlock.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id pAHAifJf030984; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:44:42 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4EC4E30E.7010702@stpeter.im> References: <4EC4E0ED.7030207@stpeter.im> <4EC4E30E.7010702@stpeter.im> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:44:17 -0800 To: Peter Saint-Andre From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] MeetingWiki account creation X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:44:49 -0000 At 6:33 PM +0800 11/17/11, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > That's mentioned at > http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/doku.php but not on > the login page or any other page, thus my confusion. Yeah, when first confronted by the login page, it took me a minute to remember as well. A note or link on that page would be helpful :-) -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket then giving Fido only two of them. --Phil Pastoret From bertietf@bwijnen.net Thu Nov 17 05:20:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1816511E80E4 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:20:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.542 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.542 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.057, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BwSqaYayag5V for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from postlady.ripe.net (postlady.ipv6.ripe.net [IPv6:2001:67c:2e8:11::c100:1341]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8623111E80AD for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:20:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dodo.ripe.net ([193.0.23.4]) by postlady.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RR1tZ-0007gG-Mu; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:20:51 +0100 Received: from dog.ripe.net ([193.0.1.217] helo=BWMACBOOK.local) by dodo.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RR1tZ-0005p0-1Y; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:20:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4EC50A2E.7050309@bwijnen.net> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:20:46 +0800 From: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Maaz Rehan References: <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CBFE6474@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se> <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CC30BB23@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsson.se> <1321521774.74945.YahooMailNeo@web160707.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1321521774.74945.YahooMailNeo@web160707.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.9 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd4aa301388c16ff21395d9efedc8d50e8a Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Economical Bus Trip to Airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:20:56 -0000 So from this I derive: - 1 hour by taci, so one needs to leave 3.5 hours before flight departure time. - Do we need to take rush hour (say we leave at 4:30 by taxi from hotel) into account? - Does one really need to be at airport 2.5 hours before departure time? Thanks, Bert On 11/17/11 5:22 PM, Maaz Rehan wrote: > Dear All, > > The Bus takes 90 minutes at minimum to take you from Hyatt to the Airport @ the cost of NT$145. So you need to leave Hyatt 4 hours > before flight (on safe side). From jakob.heitz@ericsson.com Thu Nov 17 05:38:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C133121F993C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:38:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.365 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.365 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.234, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IKaTfJGGE-Tl for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from imr4.ericy.com (imr4.ericy.com [198.24.6.9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B0C21F9761 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) by imr4.ericy.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.1ubuntu1) with ESMTP id pAHDbmVx032273; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:37:59 -0600 Received: from EUSAACMS0701.eamcs.ericsson.se ([169.254.1.111]) by eusaamw0706.eamcs.ericsson.se ([147.117.20.31]) with mapi; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:37:46 -0500 From: Jakob Heitz To: Tomek Mrugalski Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:38:33 -0500 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] being energy friendly during the meeting days? Thread-Index: AcylLhavEHsr13jnTy+TseFNCB+2Zw== Message-ID: <8E4A357B-C090-4799-B9FA-1B30198FDCD9@ericsson.com> References: <4EC4986D.9090509@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4EC4986D.9090509@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] being energy friendly during the meeting days? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:38:04 -0000 nerd! Maybe you executed a test sequence or found an Easter egg. -- Jakob Heitz. On Nov 16, 2011, at 9:15 PM, "Tomek Mrugalski" = wrote: > On 11-11-15 13:39, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> you wanna be more energy friendly during the meeting days? Don't step >> on the white "play buttons" on red carpets but make a short jump or walk >> around them in the TICC if you can. -- If you cannot or do not want to >> then please wait until the person in front of you is off if (s)he had >> decided to. > There's a bug in the escalator software. Steps to reproduce: > 1. approach red arrow with not moving escalator > 2. jump over (escalaor does not start as expected) > 3. move downstair using the old fasioned way > 4. walk on the "exit" arrow. > Escalator will start moving. It will stop after 3-4 seconds, but it > shouldn't move in the first place. >=20 > This bug is not exploitable. You can't step on the exit arrow to stop > already moving escalator. That would be too obvious. >=20 > Cheers, > Tomek > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Thu Nov 17 06:08:38 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A085C11E80E3 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:08:38 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.389 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.389 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.210, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PCfLPbmtAFbL for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:08:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A7311E80D2 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:08:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=rg+ietf@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1321538905; x=1353074905; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:cc:content-type:x-random-sig-tag; z=Message-Id:=20|In-Reply-To:=20<4EC50A2E.7050309@bwijnen.net> |References:=0D=0A=20<8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749C BFE6474@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsso=0D=0A=20n.se>=0D=0A=20 <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CC30BB23@ESESSCMS0363. eemea.ericsso=0D=0A=20n.se>=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20<1321 521774.74945.YahooMailNeo@web160707.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> =0D=0A=20<4EC50A2E.7050309@bwijnen.net>|X-Mailer:=20Eudor a=20for=20Mac=20OS=20X|Date:=20Thu,=2017=20Nov=202011=200 6:07:16=20-0800|To:=20"Bert=20Wijnen=20(IETF)"=20,=0D=0A=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20Maaz=20Rehan =20|From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[82attendees]=20Econo mical=20Bus=20Trip=20to=20Airport|Cc:=20"82attendees@ietf .org"=20<82attendees@ietf.org>|Content-Type:=20text/plain =3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii"=20=3B=20format=3D"flowed" |X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28; bh=4ZFeA9MEpFC5+fkPIsfnq25r/+piysWMzppX3uTh/8I=; b=XZMCmpUdMulTrvzulPFzBE+ozFwLVSEGQ/7MzdWHNjkdaDBaoNsDjekD q0sjlWLyNAu8gaV9m7jq4JpciyN3h1EE4NpZRNfLFv8E2zjCaNyvknRzr AeGEPoe7kt3pfv9MqQvwCz0pCE7noG6u8H+CSkTl+mFuZzuJAFrB2PHav 0=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6532"; a="136185636" Received: from ironmsg04-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.19]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2011 06:08:25 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,524,1315206000"; d="scan'208";a="116793599" Received: from warlock.qualcomm.com ([129.46.50.49]) by Ironmsg04-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 17 Nov 2011 06:08:25 -0800 Received: from dhcp-44e5.meeting.ietf.org (myvpn-r-03674.ras.qualcomm.com [10.64.12.48]) by warlock.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id pAHE8Kgt027868; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:08:23 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4EC50A2E.7050309@bwijnen.net> References: <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CBFE6474@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsso n.se> <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CC30BB23@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsso n.se> <1321521774.74945.YahooMailNeo@web160707.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EC50A2E.7050309@bwijnen.net> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:07:16 -0800 To: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" , Maaz Rehan From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Economical Bus Trip to Airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:08:38 -0000 At 9:20 PM +0800 11/17/11, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: > - Does one really need to be at airport 2.5 hours > before departure time? I don't have any experience with TPE (yet), but I would think this would only be needed if you have bags to check or aren't able to print a boarding pass ahead of time, and are in coach, and don't have any status with the airline. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else. --Clarence Darrow From jgs@juniper.net Thu Nov 17 06:29:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12EE11E815C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:29:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.543 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.543 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.056, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y4chtTb40n3D for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from exprod7og127.obsmtp.com (exprod7og127.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.210]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A412F11E8153 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:29:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([66.129.224.36]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob127.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTsUaUFeFlv6egCLZXKTX2muwkqzSUOil@postini.com; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:29:40 PST Received: from EMBX02-HQ.jnpr.net ([fe80::18fe:d666:b43e:f97e]) by P-EMHUB03-HQ.jnpr.net ([::1]) with mapi; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:25:35 -0800 From: John Scudder To: Randall Gellens Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 06:25:34 -0800 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Economical Bus Trip to Airport Thread-Index: AcylNMVSGltJUqvjT+6M8d9JmMgGUA== Message-ID: References: <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CBFE6474@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsso n.se> <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CC30BB23@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsso n.se> <1321521774.74945.YahooMailNeo@web160707.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EC50A2E.7050309@bwijnen.net> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Maaz Rehan , "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Economical Bus Trip to Airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:29:46 -0000 On Nov 17, 2011, at 10:07 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 9:20 PM +0800 11/17/11, Bert Wijnen (IETF) wrote: >=20 >> - Does one really need to be at airport 2.5 hours >> before departure time? >=20 > I don't have any experience with TPE (yet), but I would think this=20 > would only be needed if you have bags to check or aren't able to=20 > print a boarding pass ahead of time, and are in coach, and don't have=20 > any status with the airline. Confirmed. I'm at the airport now and found that the various formalities t= ook maybe 15 minutes. Twenty, max. Would have been a little longer had I = not been able to use the priority queue. Also, the taxi to the airport took around a half-hour. (Leaving the Hyatt = at 21:00.) --John= From randy@qualcomm.com Thu Nov 17 02:32:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94DC421F9BD2 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:32:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1hHbECCXaicM for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D7E21F9BCE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:32:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=randy@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1321525923; x=1353061923; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:mime-version:content-type:x-random-sig-tag: x-originating-ip; z=Message-ID:=20|In-Reply-To:=20<4EC4E0ED.7030207@stpeter.im> |References:=20<4EC4E0ED.7030207@stpeter.im>|X-Mailer:=20 Eudora=20for=20Mac=20OS=20X|Date:=20Thu,=2017=20Nov=20201 1=2002:31:56=20-0800|To:=20Peter=20Saint-Andre=20,=20"82attendees@ietf.org"=0D=0A=09<82attende es@ietf.org>|From:=20Randall=20Gellens=20|Subject:=20Re:=20[82attendees]=20MeetingWiki=20accou nt=20creation|MIME-Version:=201.0|Content-Type:=20text/pl ain=3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii"=3B=20format=3Dflowed |X-Random-Sig-Tag:=201.0b28|X-Originating-IP:=20[172.30.3 9.5]; bh=XwZoHzp9yJEACkgqiYldzdOer7IQb0kt+uxFDXloOaM=; b=yV7pyUqOXzbWVn3l1KQaGkbMtACWMMqKUW9C3/5ZOS7byl7pwsBukV0p z0RJoz3ly0yDPzaCd9NIzCdvs1JLLiCMramtZ40dUSb0k4atXlS5+r5Yq 5OJW1NJlSmuSR64xme4gWNsRO/j180SXkT1zwWTy7Wtv3PpOlbhfqfJA2 E=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,6532"; a="136134115" Received: from ironmsg04-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.19]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2011 02:32:01 -0800 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,524,1315206000"; d="scan'208";a="116622784" Received: from nasanexhc08.na.qualcomm.com ([172.30.39.7]) by Ironmsg04-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 17 Nov 2011 02:32:01 -0800 Received: from dhcp-44e5.meeting.ietf.org (172.30.39.5) by qcmail1.qualcomm.com (172.30.39.7) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.339.1; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:32:07 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4EC4E0ED.7030207@stpeter.im> References: <4EC4E0ED.7030207@stpeter.im> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:31:56 -0800 To: Peter Saint-Andre , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> From: Randall Gellens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Originating-IP: [172.30.39.5] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:23:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [82attendees] MeetingWiki account creation X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:32:04 -0000 At 6:24 PM +0800 11/17/11, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > It's late in the week so perhaps I'm missing something, but how does one > create an account on the MeetingWiki? I believe you have an account by virtue of having registered, and if I recall correctly, just log in using the email address you used to register as your user name, and your registration number as the initial password. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Make no judgments where you have no compassion. From matthew@matthew.at Thu Nov 17 08:23:37 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089AB21F9A52 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.43 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.43 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_AT=0.424, HOST_EQ_AT=0.745] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sgnYc7pLtCEn for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from where.matthew.at (where.matthew.at [198.202.199.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BF621F9A51 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-4649.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-4649.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.70.73]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by where.matthew.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1DE230002; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:23:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC534FD.1030006@matthew.at> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:23:25 +0800 From: Matthew Kaufman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jakob Heitz References: <4EC4986D.9090509@gmail.com> <8E4A357B-C090-4799-B9FA-1B30198FDCD9@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <8E4A357B-C090-4799-B9FA-1B30198FDCD9@ericsson.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tomek Mrugalski , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] being energy friendly during the meeting days? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 16:23:37 -0000 On 11/17/11 9:38 PM, Jakob Heitz wrote: > nerd! > > Maybe you executed a test sequence or found an Easter egg. > > Neither. It is a UI feature. If you step on the wrong arrow and it doesn't move, you can start walking up or down and then, when someone arrives at the far end, you suddenly find yourself going backwards. If you step on the wrong arrow and it starts moving in the direction opposite to your direction of travel briefly, you switch escalators to one that is going your way. Matthew Kaufman From haway@twnic.net.tw Thu Nov 17 18:27:40 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A27A11E80B5 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:27:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OeJ0LUZG-jqM for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from services-1.meeting.ietf.org (services.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.5.6]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0314811E80F2 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:27:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.55.202] (dhcp-37ca.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.55.202]) by services-1.meeting.ietf.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF69A73CC for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <4EC5C298.3030403@twnic.net.tw> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:27:36 +0800 From: HaWay User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070501000406030002070406" Subject: [82attendees] Terminal Room Close at 5:00pm. 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--------------070501000406030002070406-- From dromasca@avaya.com Thu Nov 17 18:30:23 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEF821F9470 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:30:23 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.382 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.382 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.216, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bnhEKiB7RNSB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:30:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1A221F93B3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:30:22 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnoAABzCxU7GmAcF/2dsb2JhbABCgk2CNJUQjyuBB4EFgXIBAQEBAxIKBwoDWQIBCA0EBAEBCwYMAQoBAgICAQFECQgBAQQBEggaonOJa5FUiQEzYwSaD4wj X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,530,1315195200"; d="scan'208,217";a="315209248" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2011 21:30:21 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.14]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 17 Nov 2011 21:29:04 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CCA59A.04AF275C" Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:30:19 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4EC5C298.3030403@twnic.net.tw> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: thread-topic: [82attendees] Terminal Room Close at 5:00pm. thread-index: AcylmbjrtGrwCUNGRsmdrYQLqU1UwgAACDhA References: <4EC5C298.3030403@twnic.net.tw> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "HaWay" , <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Terminal Room Close at 5:00pm. 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t=1321583498; bh=YDam+dDH9D3TLjCMf2hdu9fk7h0=; h=From:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References; b=uV4il2C01A3gv5lRePWbFO8zWbHRWAR0m8qIBLkAB0AjslONh2gXPMudqlBcElJiE cgoFfgr4svfXKkhl+U78J2ny9yKhVVCnGDpSy0waD2hOQ+ijWKAkSFKGTPbA6eXKKp e/gBXwYtGw6HinxbNYeJLCj27ypmZvqo5H9NmMe8= Received: from gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102::25d]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) envelope-from with ESMTP id nAH2Vc05437211776a ret-id none; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:31:38 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::16:75e2:aa35:b657:da07] ([IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:75e2:aa35:b657:da07]) (authenticated bits=0) by gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAI2VV10025820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:31:33 GMT From: Tim Chown Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_728D3F84-224F-4D83-B6BA-04A5F1BE812E" Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:31:30 +0000 In-Reply-To: To: attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <4EC5C298.3030403@twnic.net.tw> <7C57808C-36D5-46E2-AD49-11173CF97991@ecs.soton.ac.uk> Message-ID: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-smtpf-Report: sid=nAH2Vc054372117700; tid=nAH2Vc05437211776a; client=relay,ipv6; mail=; rcpt=; nrcpt=1:0; fails=0 X-ECS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ECS-MailScanner-ID: pAI2VcB1026753 X-ECS-MailScanner-From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Subject: Re: [82attendees] Terminal Room Close at 5:00pm. X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:31:41 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_728D3F84-224F-4D83-B6BA-04A5F1BE812E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii And thanks for keeping it alive until 5pm, very useful! Tim On 18 Nov 2011, at 02:30, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > Thank you and all those involved for a very well run network. I had no = problem whatsoever with the network during the week. > =20 > Dan > =20 > =20 > =20 > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf OfHaWay > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 4:28 AM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Terminal Room Close at 5:00pm. > =20 > Dear Attendees: >=20 > Thank you join IETF82 in Taipei. > Terminal Room will close at 5:00pm today. >=20 > Thanks. >=20 > HaWay >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees --Apple-Mail=_728D3F84-224F-4D83-B6BA-04A5F1BE812E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii And thanks for keeping it alive until 5pm, very = useful!

Tim

On 18 Nov 2011, = at 02:30, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:

Thank you = and all those involved for a very well run network. I had no problem = whatsoever with the network during the week.
Dan
 
 
 

Dear Attendees:

Thank = you join IETF82 in Taipei.
Terminal Room will close at 5:00pm = today.

Thanks.

HaWay

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= --Apple-Mail=_728D3F84-224F-4D83-B6BA-04A5F1BE812E-- From spencer@wonderhamster.org Thu Nov 17 18:44:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC321F0C61 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:44:41 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.714 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.714 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.115, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id F1lCwKX3g96e for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:44:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DCF1F0C34 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:44:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.129.37.123] (dhcp-257b.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.37.123]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MfFh4-1RGjnj2Ask-00P3J9; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:44:40 -0500 Message-ID: <4EC5C68D.2080209@wonderhamster.org> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:44:29 -0600 From: Spencer Dawkins User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:AibnYfJ6B2qvrPHAeTH0Cc3JwRk3HLFHGKtOd0AJn3z wHPAuu8bAwnB1JVrq4JWTh5GN4XHjeWIYrQtO1LLMNRGg8mTIv DSy6Tc5nO2FVXpE9E0lL4qxf/Xk3roOxUMg/zKRGFdctC04gXf l3hRaBMyIoRVxInoWA1YG6SIYXswkafRtjr3vREUltZF5s3qr5 1OD11PpCzEKr3Pi0K4IS5ThxvMPdmvZUT6jMQFeVWkEL2EctFE 0GLszIEpG07gPftTl5C6UsPS5voQhSFD4cQQREH0CvBIWjnl4s kQFyhkW5jeecJFT0+ZOYsIS8ycAJdcIBbMNlGvCd3Rh72DLX4z nRYAXoD1Tskpv9C33IDSnrJuY27iZaebyQazhkR5b Subject: [82attendees] Souvenir t-shirts for teenagers X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:44:42 -0000 I'm looking for t-shirts for three teenagers (two girls, one boy). They don't have to be anything officially Taiwanese (their t-shirts from Prague were "teddy bears toting AK-47s" [1] from the Museum of Communism), but should be weird enough and cool enough for teenagers to wear in public ... So, does anyone have recommendations? Near the conference center? At the airport? Somewhere else? Thanks, Spencer [1] http://www.flickr.com/photos/jules_t/177829762/ From melinda.shore@gmail.com Thu Nov 17 19:30:46 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F16E11E8073 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:30:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L9WPdOJU3smW for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C049E11E8097 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by ghrr14 with SMTP id r14so76925ghr.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:30:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Mt0rBxFJW3T0Kpp4OAWcAIPKwXD/2Cm3+khTwTkB4iI=; b=xjJVGXrQvaOMmIjTEWeVp7bp2HNh/muY8U5TX39Z9akUgduWGs2ltndgczSSJjGz3v 485EpjLlnoHlxWntp+hhIL1WdeUiyxVDsLQirio+rgweuyJcMeqxJTNedVpiaXkdekqr fDhDyxK9Yld3SSh4Bvk1G+WXADMvSCaA7dMc4= Received: by 10.236.193.70 with SMTP id j46mr1720721yhn.108.1321587045332; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.13.92] ([122.147.240.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 11sm16567112anz.20.2011.11.17.19.30.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:30:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4EC5D15F.3060109@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 18:30:39 -0900 From: Melinda Shore User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EC5C68D.2080209@wonderhamster.org> In-Reply-To: <4EC5C68D.2080209@wonderhamster.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Souvenir t-shirts for teenagers X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:30:46 -0000 On 11/17/2011 05:44 PM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > So, does anyone have recommendations? Near the conference center? At the > airport? Somewhere else? You can find all kinds of odd stuff at the Lin Jiang market, which is an easy walk from the TICC, but I think it would be challenging to find something hip and sort of ironic like those excellent shirts at the Museum of Communism. Probably worth a visit anyway if you've got the time. Melinda From michael.meulle@orange.com Thu Nov 17 21:06:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B444611E808B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:06:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qAHPzGTCh45Y for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from r-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com (r-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com [217.108.152.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD8011E808A for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from r-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 87ECF140004; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:06:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr (unknown [10.192.128.46]) by r-mail2.rd.francetelecom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A696140001; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:06:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from ftrdmel0.rd.francetelecom.fr ([10.192.128.56]) by ftrdsmtp1.rd.francetelecom.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:06:21 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:06:17 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4EC5C68D.2080209@wonderhamster.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [82attendees] Souvenir t-shirts for teenagers Thread-Index: AcylnAg2E5JgyblUSkq0ZqiIinkE3QAE18/A References: <4EC5C68D.2080209@wonderhamster.org> From: To: , <82attendees@ietf.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Nov 2011 05:06:21.0354 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFF288A0:01CCA5AF] Subject: Re: [82attendees] Souvenir t-shirts for teenagers X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 05:06:24 -0000 Hello, You can definitively try T-shirt design store = http://www.graniph.tw/shop.php Mickael -----Message d'origine----- De=A0: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Spencer Dawkins Envoy=E9=A0: vendredi 18 novembre 2011 03:44 =C0=A0: 82attendees@ietf.org Objet=A0: [82attendees] Souvenir t-shirts for teenagers I'm looking for t-shirts for three teenagers (two girls, one boy). They=20 don't have to be anything officially Taiwanese (their t-shirts from=20 Prague were "teddy bears toting AK-47s" [1] from the Museum of=20 Communism), but should be weird enough and cool enough for teenagers to=20 wear in public ... So, does anyone have recommendations? Near the conference center? At the = airport? Somewhere else? Thanks, Spencer [1] http://www.flickr.com/photos/jules_t/177829762/ _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From markkao@twnic.net.tw Thu Nov 17 21:28:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBA711E80E1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:28:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id V+SNCRQEtwdG for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:28:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from twnic.net.tw (unknown [IPv6:2001:288:4:1:21e:8cff:fe22:a99d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E633D11E80CD for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:28:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.twnic.net.tw (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by twnic.net.tw (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id pAI5Rbme028551; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:27:38 +0800 From: "Mark kao" To: Tim Chown , attendees <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:27:37 +0800 Message-Id: <20111118051824.M40600@twnic.net.tw> In-Reply-To: References: <4EC5C298.3030403@twnic.net.tw> <7C57808C-36D5-46E2-AD49-11173CF97991@ecs.soton.ac.uk> X-Mailer: OpenWebMail 2.53 X-OriginatingIP: 211.72.211.91 (markkao) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=OPENWEBMAIL_ATT_0.302851741059811" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 211.72.210.250 Subject: Re: [82attendees] Terminal Room Close at 5:00pm. X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 05:28:25 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=OPENWEBMAIL_ATT_0.302851741059811 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 ^^ It's our pleasure~~ Mark On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:31:30 +0000, Tim Chown wrote > And thanks for keeping it alive until 5pm, very useful! > > Tim > > On 18 Nov 2011, at 02:30, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote: > > Thank you and all those involved for a very well run network. 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The ring is easy to recognise with a SpongeBob thiny on it, and a YubiKey. It's not in either of those two places anymore at least, from what I can see.. :-/ Has anyone found it? Wilmer v/d Gaast. -- Wilmer van der Gaast, Traffic SRE/Google Public DNS team. Google Ireland. From kawamucho@mesh.ad.jp Thu Nov 17 23:12:42 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 549CA21F9415 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:12:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.09 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.09 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZoHS6wqflOVi for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.193]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B832B21F93F1 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate3.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.192]) by tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id pAI7CfJb010210 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:12:41 +0900 (JST) Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id pAI7Cf429905 for 82attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:12:41 +0900 (JST) Received: from bgas200085.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (bgas200085.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp [10.82.141.45]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id pAI7CeEt015292 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:12:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bgas200085.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (BINGO/BINGO/06101717) with ESMTP id pAI7Cepi021861 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:12:40 +0900 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([10.65.91.161]) (authenticated bits=0) (envelope-from kawamucho@mesh.ad.jp) by mail.sys.biglobe.nec.co.jp (BINGO/BINGO/10031711) with ESMTP id pAI7CccB022564 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:12:40 +0900 Message-ID: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:12:35 +0900 From: Seiichi Kawamura User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; ja; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111103 Thunderbird/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig745EF2AAD358FDE16C1766F5" Subject: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:12:42 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig745EF2AAD358FDE16C1766F5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a wonderful time here in Taipei. 3 times at Dintaifung and I wouldn't mind going again if I had another night's stay here. I really thank the hosts and the people of Taiwan for their hospitality and hard work at putting this meeting together! Seiichi -- having free wifi at airport is so nice --------------enig745EF2AAD358FDE16C1766F5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAk7GBWUACgkQcrhTYfxyMkLgxACePBQGjmZTiMhbsKlRyStNtQwt xBUAnjuiSMdFB1dnziVnSkF/vLiwN66M =ObO6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig745EF2AAD358FDE16C1766F5-- From zhao.yi@huawei.com Thu Nov 17 23:20:56 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E16B1F0C51 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:20:56 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s-v375oJ4WYZ for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from usaga04-in.huawei.com (usaga04-in.huawei.com [206.16.17.180]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5111F0C56 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (usaga04-in [172.18.4.101]) by usaga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LUU002R4HQQDZ@usaga04-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:20:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from dfweml201-edg.china.huawei.com ([172.18.4.104]) by usaga04-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LUU00KMOHQPTC@usaga04-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:20:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from DFWEML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.151) by dfweml201-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.9.107) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.270.1; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:20:43 -0800 Received: from DFWEML503-MBX.china.huawei.com ([10.124.31.29]) by dfweml403-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.151]) with mapi id 14.01.0270.001; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:20:39 -0800 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:20:39 +0000 From: Zhao yi In-reply-to: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> X-Originating-IP: [10.47.136.185] To: Seiichi Kawamura , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en-US Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Thread-topic: [82attendees] thank you! Thread-index: AQHMpcGf075YLIunJk2CElOQzwsL2pWyOXyw X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:20:56 -0000 +1 Yi -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Seiichi Kawamura Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 1:13 AM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] thank you! I had a wonderful time here in Taipei. 3 times at Dintaifung and I wouldn't mind going again if I had another night's stay here. I really thank the hosts and the people of Taiwan for their hospitality and hard work at putting this meeting together! Seiichi -- having free wifi at airport is so nice From jari.arkko@piuha.net Fri Nov 18 00:56:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1726521F8B23 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:56:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.54 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.54 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.059, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ql8tpHkL5dB4 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FFC21F8B1F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922AD2CC43 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:55:49 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uUyyHNuwWYL3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:55:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2001:14b8:400::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5300F2CC31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:55:48 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <4EC61D93.9080907@piuha.net> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:55:47 +0800 From: Jari Arkko User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:56:04 -0000 Yes - big thanks to the organizers, host, sponsors, the secretariat, conference center staff, etc. This meeting went very smoothly, everything worked well. Jari From randy@psg.com Fri Nov 18 01:09:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B7221F85D1 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:09:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.589 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.589 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.010, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XRhICfrIvOoC for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:09:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::36]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEDC21F85CE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:09:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=rair.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1RRKRT-000Fz5-HN; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:09:03 +0000 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:09:02 +0800 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Jari Arkko In-Reply-To: <4EC61D93.9080907@piuha.net> References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> <4EC61D93.9080907@piuha.net> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:09:05 -0000 > This meeting went very smoothly, everything worked well. From Marco.Davids@sidn.nl Fri Nov 18 01:44:51 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4F121F8ACA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:44:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.504 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.504 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_NL=0.55, HOST_EQ_NL=1.545, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m4Gh-+btRF7r for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ede1-kamx.sidn.nl (kamx.sidn.nl [94.198.152.69]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941FE21F8ABB for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from kahubcas1.SIDN.local ([192.168.2.41]) by ede1-kamx.sidn.nl with ESMTP id pAI9ilu4026367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=CAFAIL) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:44:47 +0100 Received: from KAMBX1.SIDN.local ([fe80::501d:affc:30a9:4edf]) by kahubcas1.SIDN.local ([fe80::dff:8232:1563:3a16%14]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:44:47 +0100 From: Marco Davids To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [82attendees] thank you! Thread-Index: AQHMpcF9Xivv4F/qaUiHCSCo9K5y5JWyURyA Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:44:47 +0000 Message-ID: <2A4F1896-1F27-480E-82F0-E75136F71E31@sidn.nl> References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-pgp-agent: GPGMail 1.3.3 x-originating-ip: [192.168.4.162] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4923712F638B2D428750B7AE28173ADC@sidn.nl> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:44:51 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 18, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Seiichi Kawamura wrote: > I had a wonderful time here in Taipei. >=20 > I really thank the hosts and the people of Taiwan > for their hospitality and hard work at putting this > meeting together! >=20 Yes, a big +1 for that.=20 Thank you for a wonderful IETF82! - -- Marco -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAk7GKQ4ACgkQ0dvyGJ94G1LpWwCguWcFV5vLdC0FJWxZP0sNrnTx dZUAnA+FCeJjKUCxsJSWz9IAUNWuqzXL =3Dej30 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From skh@ndzh.com Thu Nov 17 23:56:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25B0121F94C3 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:56:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.696 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.696 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.811, BAYES_05=-1.11, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_DB=0.888, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WMVmF7R-q1qo for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hickoryhill-consulting.com (63-208-161-201.digitalrealm.net [63.208.161.201]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9462621F94AB for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:56:24 -0800 (PST) X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=forwardok (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=130.129.21.97; Received: from SKHPERSONALLT (unverified [130.129.21.97]) by hickoryhill-consulting.com (SurgeMail 5.2a) with ESMTP id 2852793-1945496 for multiple; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:56:15 -0500 From: "Susan Hares" To: "'Zhao yi'" , "'Seiichi Kawamura'" , <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:56:15 -0500 Message-ID: <000301cca5c7$8dab23e0$a9016ba0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AQHMpcGf075YLIunJk2CElOQzwsL2pWyOXywgAAKEdA= Content-Language: en-us X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:07:36 -0800 Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:56:25 -0000 +1 Sue -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Zhao yi Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 2:21 AM To: Seiichi Kawamura; 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! +1 Yi -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Seiichi Kawamura Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 1:13 AM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] thank you! I had a wonderful time here in Taipei. 3 times at Dintaifung and I wouldn't mind going again if I had another night's stay here. I really thank the hosts and the people of Taiwan for their hospitality and hard work at putting this meeting together! Seiichi -- having free wifi at airport is so nice _______________________________________________ 82attendees mailing list 82attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From bclaise@cisco.com Fri Nov 18 02:46:05 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6748421F8ACE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:46:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.41 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.41 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.189, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0-6CosxknydS for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:46:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from av-tac-jap.cisco.com (skinny-sumo.cisco.com [64.104.15.102]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFFC21F8ACC for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:46:04 -0800 (PST) X-TACSUNS: Virus Scanned Received: from sumo.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by av-tac-jap.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAIAk3e5000136; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:46:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from [10.75.234.76] (hkidc-vpn-client-234-76.cisco.com [10.75.234.76]) by sumo.cisco.com (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAIAk2v3021240; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:46:02 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <4EC63769.9090609@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:46:01 +0800 From: Benoit Claise User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Arkko References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> <4EC61D93.9080907@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <4EC61D93.9080907@piuha.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:46:05 -0000 +1. Impressed. Regards, Benoit. > Yes - big thanks to the organizers, host, sponsors, the secretariat, > conference center staff, etc. > > This meeting went very smoothly, everything worked well. > > Jari > > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > From bertietf@bwijnen.net Fri Nov 18 02:54:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11ED721F8ACE for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:54:44 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.543 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.543 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.056, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xUlQVXn2KoFY for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from postlady.ripe.net (postlady.ipv6.ripe.net [IPv6:2001:67c:2e8:11::c100:1341]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E8721F8AC3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:54:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayeaye.ripe.net ([193.0.23.5]) by postlady.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RRM5h-0001ga-4i; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:54:42 +0100 Received: from dog.ripe.net ([193.0.1.217] helo=BWMACBOOK.local) by ayeaye.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RRM5g-0002WH-0s; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:54:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4EC6396D.8050306@bwijnen.net> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:54:37 +0800 From: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jari Arkko References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> <4EC61D93.9080907@piuha.net> In-Reply-To: <4EC61D93.9080907@piuha.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.9 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd4f191380e53310c9f41bb8c9a3b746e23 Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:54:44 -0000 Yep. Kudos to all who made this such a great success. Bert On 11/18/11 4:55 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > Yes - big thanks to the organizers, host, sponsors, the secretariat, conference center staff, etc. > > This meeting went very smoothly, everything worked well. > > Jari From bertietf@bwijnen.net Fri Nov 18 02:57:03 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF6BC21F8B27 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:57:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.544 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.544 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.055, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M7Dy5yXj1h+v for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:57:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from postgirl.ripe.net (postgirl.ipv6.ripe.net [IPv6:2001:67c:2e8:11::c100:1342]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF7821F8B23 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 02:57:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ayeaye.ripe.net ([193.0.23.5]) by postgirl.ripe.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RRM7w-00088w-AA for 82attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:57:02 +0100 Received: from dog.ripe.net ([193.0.1.217] helo=BWMACBOOK.local) by ayeaye.ripe.net with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RRM7v-0002hM-Ht for 82attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:57:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4EC639F7.7010204@bwijnen.net> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:56:55 +0800 From: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> References: <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CBFE6474@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsso n.se> <8DCD771BDA4A394E9BCBA8932E83929749CC30BB23@ESESSCMS0363.eemea.ericsso n.se> <1321521774.74945.YahooMailNeo@web160707.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EC50A2E.7050309@bwijnen.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RIPE-Spam-Level: -- X-RIPE-Spam-Report: Spam Total Points: -2.9 points pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- ------------------------------------ -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-RIPE-Signature: 86ab03e524994f79ca2c75a176445dd45d47f8753da218fa06a6a23d59b6dd33 Subject: [82attendees] Trip to Airport X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:57:03 -0000 Leaving from Hyaat at approx 16:45 Approx 1 hour by taxi to airport (term 2, then term 1) 15-20 minutes for checkin and security check (priority lanes). (other lanes may take a little bit longer but not that much I think Bert From sakimura@gmail.com Fri Nov 18 03:37:29 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDAF21F8B05 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:37:29 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.275 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.275 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.324, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UUmrX0Fgt0aq for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D3E21F8A7E for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by faap16 with SMTP id p16so6359669faa.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:37:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=d+1RbHnnCQI3yTYEI8HbT0dlLXuBHvAsrS3E0HJCV+k=; b=W+0Y59UkV1M6N+6QUfQoxx8pVh4paa3TEki2g/KVPm5q6DpBS2Qx404VF4ZRgqS6rY RVuKFfZakjQXKcVaQHS6l0AWDTUBrYGPh3ltM4g9uteZe23H2TTGYc/cNoP3JYgwr6vF g5nCKsCBoJs57GGiztS27Akub0MUpyzHmqFEc= Received: by 10.152.110.99 with SMTP id hz3mr1735374lab.29.1321616246311; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:37:26 -0800 (PST) References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> <4EC61D93.9080907@piuha.net> <4EC6396D.8050306@bwijnen.net> From: Nat Sakimura In-Reply-To: <4EC6396D.8050306@bwijnen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:37:24 +0900 Message-ID: <3017807487946273116@unknownmsgid> To: "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Jari Arkko , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! 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Kudos to all who made this such a great success. > > Bert > > On 11/18/11 4:55 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: >> Yes - big thanks to the organizers, host, sponsors, the secretariat, conference center staff, etc. >> >> This meeting went very smoothly, everything worked well. >> >> Jari > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From jefftant@gmail.com Fri Nov 18 04:06:54 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D2421F8B3C for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:06:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FOgSJuOLfl4k for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f172.google.com (mail-iy0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C3F21F8B37 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by iaeo4 with SMTP id o4so4363448iae.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:06:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=pCyHmvkzC4tEZNCPPhyoNUO4SAJwcY8Uc9eNKMrCKIA=; b=BuSwQu9MfScry71f8dMTd+lGtLs4XpIDVB12jJLuz2xxag3aLCEhKy9uk9BGcldCTZ OOo7RLa8BI/qdd2Tlp30wWX3CdileEa2h331JpbE3RQyj3kXxZ2sFDM0iVLTT9pDPawD eBsnGhl1IHXIZN6UmVByJMJ7iUthV+PpVyXDs= Received: by 10.42.157.70 with SMTP id c6mr728008icx.51.1321618014090; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.22.12.147] ([122.147.240.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a2sm1338241igj.7.2011.11.18.04.06.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:06:53 -0800 (PST) References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> <4EC61D93.9080907@piuha.net> <4EC6396D.8050306@bwijnen.net> <3017807487946273116@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: <3017807487946273116@unknownmsgid> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9A334) From: Jeff Tantsura Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:07:10 +0800 To: Nat Sakimura Cc: Jari Arkko , "Bert Wijnen \(IETF\)" , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:06:55 -0000 +1 Regards, Jeff On Nov 18, 2011, at 7:37 PM, Nat Sakimura wrote: > +100! >=20 > Nat Sakimura >=20 > On 2011/11/18, at 19:54, "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" wrote= : >=20 >> Yep. Kudos to all who made this such a great success. >>=20 >> Bert >>=20 >> On 11/18/11 4:55 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: >>> Yes - big thanks to the organizers, host, sponsors, the secretariat, con= ference center staff, etc. >>>=20 >>> This meeting went very smoothly, everything worked well. >>>=20 >>> Jari >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From denghui02@gmail.com Fri Nov 18 04:44:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9C021F8ABB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:44:19 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89OXUF2Vh1KI for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:44:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f172.google.com (mail-gy0-f172.google.com [209.85.160.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F8E21F86B3 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:44:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by ghrr14 with SMTP id r14so627302ghr.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:44:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=w58xLuHZdqbc08khQMAaTxKji7mn0yK+KfjKet+QUjs=; b=vxm6yrWhEKKiY3ZOQ566/FhGYKNLJqMC5285BPlkFzVbGf1abp3dgLcl1emvoLVScc Aby4u1WhKyTXZc2Y7L5MiKEfNRIuuE/I1jpzlTqkrZ0MvPYBy4lPl9u11LX3I7UdPp+F Xte3qCN/eQYe9xzZ58sbvSkJZddqD4kP+O4B4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.236.155.2 with SMTP id i2mr4220723yhk.115.1321620257521; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:44:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.146.84.10 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:44:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> <4EC61D93.9080907@piuha.net> <4EC6396D.8050306@bwijnen.net> <3017807487946273116@unknownmsgid> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:44:17 +0800 Message-ID: From: Hui Deng To: 82attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30363adbfa3e4204b201b1e2 Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! 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Kudos to all who made this such a great success. > >> > >> Bert > >> > >> On 11/18/11 4:55 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: > >>> Yes - big thanks to the organizers, host, sponsors, the secretariat, > conference center staff, etc. > >>> > >>> This meeting went very smoothly, everything worked well. > >>> > >>> Jari > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 82attendees mailing list > >> 82attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > > _______________________________________________ > > 82attendees mailing list > > 82attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > --20cf30363adbfa3e4204b201b1e2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

cong!,=A0 good city
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-Hui

2011/11/18 Jeff Tantsura <<= a href=3D"mailto:jefftant@gmail.com">jefftant@gmail.com>
+1

Regards,
Jeff

On Nov 18, 2011, at 7:37 PM, Nat Sakimura <sakimura@gmail.com> wrote:

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> Nat Sakimura
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> On 2011/11/18, at 19:5= 4, "Bert Wijnen (IETF)" <bertietf@bwijnen.net> wrote:
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>> Yep. Kudos to all who made this such a great success.
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>> On 11/18/11 4:55 PM, Jari = Arkko wrote:
>>> Yes - big thanks to the organizers, host, spon= sors, the secretariat, conference center staff, etc.
>>>
>>> This meeting went very smoothly, everything wo= rked well.
>>>
>>> Jari
>> _______________= ________________________________
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>> 82attendees@ietf.org>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees
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From johnl@iecc.com Fri Nov 18 11:05:00 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F16291F0C58 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:05:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.584 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.584 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.016, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J1nb2hqbEZYK for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:04:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C71E41F0C34 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21264 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2011 19:04:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=530f.4ec6ac55.k1111; bh=8RrWa4V+hx51R7LqyNnmSY/mRec48FeA5TdEjnuxBzE=; b=UTzO6FQPyiARe64pFJvDOWawOKA42c671gXjxz3v5be0sBKpkmnVcFwJyQfR8K6+r+sOEclAJriPWL62kVAAss415SD1+x7Vm5g8N3/13iG0sleptLD+m8IjwrgklnHb8ZvoBgi3j4QpD9R/v9anvy7vr4Lwr93QyRKXvGelj8w= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 18 Nov 2011 19:04:30 -0000 Date: 18 Nov 2011 11:04:50 -0800 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Randy Bush" In-Reply-To: References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> <4EC61D93.9080907@piuha.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:05:01 -0000 >> This meeting went very smoothly, everything worked well. > > Entirely agreed. If we come back, the only thing I'd change would be to ask them to give us Chinese food. R's, John From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Fri Nov 18 15:01:36 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE4E1F0C4F for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:01:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TesUVyWGkymy for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4351F0C40 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.100.102] (61-220-70-183.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.220.70.183]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAIN1XHv004652 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:01:35 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 07:01:34 +0800 Message-Id: <5B7A1021-5349-474C-8582-26A932FFBAEC@vpnc.org> To: 82attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Subject: [82attendees] How to sit a long time in terminal 2? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:01:36 -0000 I will be getting to the airport much before my flight tonight. Are = there reasonably comfortable areas to sit? Is the wireless = free/cheap/expensive for multi-hour use? Does China Airlines let you buy = your way into the premier lounge? (FWIW, I did look on both the Taoyuan airport web site and the China = Airlines web site and didn't find answers to these questions...) --Paul Hoffman From mikael.lofstrand@gmail.com Fri Nov 18 16:33:24 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD9B1F0C3B for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:33:24 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jsP+9VPjP97J for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD1C1F0C36 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywt34 with SMTP id 34so3692828ywt.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:33:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=3QKD0C176zLWliiOrIe4/IK5nTCAKnZDE4rE9wFdeNU=; b=aCOnCBfWM8uz4O0TqzI/s4njnPdliYO03Qc+qjHXRqqZq3vJo566Kl5lW/rW0Y+NQG JBugzqf6HAL01Dy6DJ7LA34SwP9lNUd2w1akBRV8oAMegfOF6n5rvitQKVGXP1RFIFU8 7HHmMdEYcbdZSacolSjkjdn8NsDRpQyT2nI+o= Received: by 10.236.114.227 with SMTP id c63mr8580605yhh.47.1321662803420; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [110.29.48.119] (110-29-48-119.adsl.fetnet.net. [110.29.48.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w68sm3138921yhe.14.2011.11.18.16.33.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:33:22 -0800 (PST) References: <5B7A1021-5349-474C-8582-26A932FFBAEC@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <5B7A1021-5349-474C-8582-26A932FFBAEC@vpnc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <989F50AE-9D4B-4280-BCC5-537911C3C807@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) From: Mikael Lofstrand Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:33:12 +0800 To: Paul Hoffman Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] How to sit a long time in terminal 2? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:33:24 -0000 The FET wifi is free, don't know the answer to your other questions. Best Regards, Mikael +1 408-439-8453 Sent from my phone, please excuse any typos! On Nov 19, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > I will be getting to the airport much before my flight tonight. Are there r= easonably comfortable areas to sit? Is the wireless free/cheap/expensive for= multi-hour use? Does China Airlines let you buy your way into the premier l= ounge? >=20 > (FWIW, I did look on both the Taoyuan airport web site and the China Airli= nes web site and didn't find answers to these questions...) >=20 > --Paul Hoffman >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From fred@cisco.com Fri Nov 18 17:03:48 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1DDA21F84D4 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:03:47 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -109.438 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-109.438 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.161, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H3tN+0kFViTA for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4B721F84CE for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:03:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=fred@cisco.com; l=732; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1321664627; x=1322874227; h=subject:mime-version:from:in-reply-to:date:cc: content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=mgEwTnQ1YALBieMADmPxwXnCxOj7I8RLZVBMTysXuuE=; b=G8hQNEGrB8jVfuY8UGMbxTP0gEMXnUymmzunDz/L0LNEJJISrmXKiQoO 1+oF1VbahZAdVyoslNTxDj0VnNtcibj2OwF0/OLAaXJyJINBaaulQCj2A RqIHOztMVwbu9whJylFN9pQ+ix5dJww3Nybfi6mSzYf2D+ZZ9blWKeD6q A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EANj/xk5Io8UT/2dsb2JhbABDqjqBBYFyAQEBAwEBAQEPASc0CwULCw44JzAGEyKHYQiYCwGeRASJNGMEiBWMJIU9jFE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,536,1315180800"; d="scan'208";a="122087885" Received: from bgl-core-4.cisco.com ([72.163.197.19]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Nov 2011 01:03:42 +0000 Received: from [172.20.1.44] (hkidc-vpn-client-234-163.cisco.com [10.75.234.163]) by bgl-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pAJ13fl2024156; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:03:41 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Fred Baker In-Reply-To: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:03:41 +0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> To: Seiichi Kawamura X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:03:48 -0000 Yes. The network worked very well (I saw standard deviations on jitter = on the order of a millisecond the whole time), and the facility worked = very well. We should come back here. On Nov 18, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Seiichi Kawamura wrote: > I had a wonderful time here in Taipei. > 3 times at Dintaifung and I wouldn't mind going > again if I had another night's stay here. > I really thank the hosts and the people of Taiwan > for their hospitality and hard work at putting this > meeting together! >=20 > Seiichi -- having free wifi at airport is so nice >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees From wyb@asia.com Fri Nov 18 21:24:57 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D53E1F0C52 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:24:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jk+VXJhqVoWP for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailout-us.gmx.com (mailout-us.gmx.com [74.208.5.67]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CB18B21F84A9 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:24:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27968 invoked by uid 0); 19 Nov 2011 05:24:55 -0000 Received: from 58.97.189.237 by rms-us013.v300.gmx.net with HTTP Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary2718132168029473289" Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:24:53 -0500 From: "South and South East Asian Coordination - World Youth Bank" Message-ID: <20111119052454.27180@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Authenticated: #115685356 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: GMX.com Web Mailer x-registered: 0 X-GMX-UID: wFmvA6VrymCuwp4P3DI02b0iJihyalCI Subject: [82attendees] World Youth Bank - South & South East Asian Media & Press Communication Office in Dhaka, Bangladesh X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 05:24:57 -0000 --========GMXBoundary2718132168029473289 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear friends, World Youth Bank - South & South East Asian Media & Press Communication Office in Dhaka, Bangladesh. 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=20 Bangladesh --========GMXBoundary2718132168029473289-- From marshall.eubanks@gmail.com Fri Nov 18 22:16:31 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B283E21F8B82 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:16:31 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.512 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.512 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.087, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SfSdmDnvZmXx for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:16:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-f44.google.com (mail-yw0-f44.google.com [209.85.213.44]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAB521F8B7F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:16:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by ywt34 with SMTP id 34so3873308ywt.31 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:16:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=yrvaPd999bWn7axF1tzSqhQlCThxI4uagAsxXevY6Mk=; b=OOlajmXCHPSLE73qI5ziBiAuzbiJPLb7XUQqnMZSgOj1MrnZ5cVVVQ1Kg5hSTlvbq1 i0VGym1ONAfDWXgi75r6Nv9UwBOnZc4BTjh8i34rAIZSmK4V4/3fgs7yoH6CO6D5kaL8 /w8I7Lymspa5MslYTJFcOICJn+zAOzMKypo7M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.147.42 with SMTP id th10mr1368418obb.44.1321683386023; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:16:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.159.73 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:16:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <989F50AE-9D4B-4280-BCC5-537911C3C807@gmail.com> References: <5B7A1021-5349-474C-8582-26A932FFBAEC@vpnc.org> <989F50AE-9D4B-4280-BCC5-537911C3C807@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 01:16:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: Marshall Eubanks To: Mikael Lofstrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Paul Hoffman , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] How to sit a long time in terminal 2? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:16:31 -0000 There is Free WiFi in the Food Court in Basement B2 of Terminal 2. Regards Marshall On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Mikael Lofstrand wrote: > The FET wifi is free, don't know the answer to your other questions. > > Best Regards, > Mikael > +1 408-439-8453 > > Sent from my phone, please excuse any typos! > > On Nov 19, 2011, at 7:01 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> I will be getting to the airport much before my flight tonight. Are there reasonably comfortable areas to sit? Is the wireless free/cheap/expensive for multi-hour use? Does China Airlines let you buy your way into the premier lounge? >> >> (FWIW, I did look on both the Taoyuan airport web site and the China Airlines web site and didn't find answers to these questions...) >> >> --Paul Hoffman >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 82attendees mailing list >> 82attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees > From ynir@checkpoint.com Fri Nov 18 22:22:04 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D737421F8BA6 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:22:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.197, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UDXUrrevY3kY for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from michael.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2FFA21F8BA4 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:22:03 -0800 (PST) X-CheckPoint: {4EC74A9D-0-1B221DC2-1FFFF} Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.26]) by michael.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id pAJ6M1vP012071; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:22:01 +0200 Received: from il-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com (194.29.34.71) by il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com (194.29.34.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.213.0; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:22:01 +0200 Received: from il-ex01.ad.checkpoint.com ([126.0.0.2]) by il-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com ([194.29.34.71]) with mapi; Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:22:01 +0200 From: Yoav Nir To: Paul Hoffman Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 08:22:00 +0200 Thread-Topic: [82attendees] How to sit a long time in terminal 2? Thread-Index: Acymg4xTo+jywW3HT128+ryWG+3Ucg== Message-ID: References: <5B7A1021-5349-474C-8582-26A932FFBAEC@vpnc.org> In-Reply-To: <5B7A1021-5349-474C-8582-26A932FFBAEC@vpnc.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: scan successful x-kse-antivirus-info: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KSE-AntiSpam-Interceptor-Info: protection disabled Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] How to sit a long time in terminal 2? X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:22:04 -0000 Hi Paul There is free wifi, and there are areas to sit. No idea about lounges. Yoav On Nov 19, 2011, at 12:01 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > I will be getting to the airport much before my flight tonight. Are there= reasonably comfortable areas to sit? Is the wireless free/cheap/expensive = for multi-hour use? Does China Airlines let you buy your way into the premi= er lounge? >=20 > (FWIW, I did look on both the Taoyuan airport web site and the China Airl= ines web site and didn't find answers to these questions...) >=20 > --Paul Hoffman From prvs=2999aaf8d=Alexander.Knauf@haw-hamburg.de Mon Nov 21 11:02:58 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25901F0C62 for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:02:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.060, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5vF9G99irtnw for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:02:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx6.haw-public.haw-hamburg.de (mx6.haw-public.haw-hamburg.de [141.22.6.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB9D21F84B1 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dehawshub02.mailcluster.haw-hamburg.de ([141.22.200.52]) by mail6.is.haw-hamburg.de with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 21 Nov 2011 20:02:50 +0100 Received: from dehawscas03.mailcluster.haw-hamburg.de (141.22.200.83) by DEHAWSHUB02.mailcluster.haw-hamburg.de (141.22.200.52) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.358.0; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:02:49 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.102] (141.22.200.55) by haw-mailer.haw-hamburg.de (141.22.200.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.1.358.0; Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:02:49 +0100 Message-ID: <4ECAA053.3040904@haw-hamburg.de> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:02:43 +0100 From: Alexander Knauf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tina TSOU References: <4EC346D6.6010502@haw-hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="GB2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [82attendees] Bookstore near ietf X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:02:58 -0000 Thanks for this tip! I was able to buy almost all books on my list :-) Regards, Alexander Am 16.11.11 06:34, schrieb Tina TSOU: > ַ > ̨x^ɸ·11̖ > > Address: > No 11, Song Gao Road, Xin Yi District, Taipei > > My husband bought a book there yesterday. He said it is nice. > > http://blog.eslite.com/xinyi_books/about > > (02)8789-3388 ext. 3001 > > > Best Regards, > Tina TSOU > http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Knauf > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 1:15 PM > To: 82attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [82attendees] Bookstore near ietf > > Hi, > > I am looking for a large bookstore to buy some Chinese books. Has anyone > a recommendation near the ietf? > > Regards, > > Alexander > _______________________________________________ > 82attendees mailing list > 82attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/82attendees -- /************************************************* * Alexander Knauf B.Sc. * AG INET * Dept. Informatik * HAW Hamburg * Berliner Tor 7 * D-20099 Hamburg, Germany * Room: 580 * Net: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de/members/knauf * Phone: +49 40 42875 - 8067 * Fax: +49 40 42875 - 8409 *************************************************/ From hongyu.lihongyu@huawei.com Tue Nov 22 01:50:17 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 356AE21F8D8E for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 01:50:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.796 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.796 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.803, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Tw4BogkCaRX for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 01:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from szxga03-in.huawei.com (szxga03-in.huawei.com [119.145.14.66]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B044B21F8D92 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 01:50:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from huawei.com (szxga03-in [172.24.2.9]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LV200GMH3BLF6@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:50:09 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxrg02-dlp.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxga03-in.huawei.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.14 (built Aug 8 2006)) with ESMTP id <0LV200H1O3BBVD@szxga03-in.huawei.com> for 82attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:50:09 +0800 (CST) Received: from szxeml203-edg.china.huawei.com ([172.24.2.119]) by szxrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.1.9-GA) with ESMTP id AFE01437; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:50:06 +0800 Received: from SZXEML413-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.82.67.152) by szxeml203-edg.china.huawei.com (172.24.2.55) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.3; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:50:04 +0800 Received: from SZXEML524-MBS.china.huawei.com ([169.254.5.229]) by szxeml413-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.82.67.152]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Tue, 22 Nov 2011 17:50:01 +0800 Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:50:00 +0000 From: "Lihongyu(Hongyu)" In-reply-to: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> X-Originating-IP: [10.70.40.59] To: Seiichi Kawamura , "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Message-id: <6EB34CB5D82C4645B826C56144826EA91DFFB381@szxeml524-mbs.china.huawei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: zh-CN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Thread-topic: [82attendees] thank you! Thread-index: AQHMpcGeScmnsCzm5kCmEyXpq5iuQ5W4rI1w X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected References: <4EC60563.3040506@mesh.ad.jp> Subject: Re: [82attendees] thank you! X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:50:17 -0000 +1 A very good city. H -----Original Message----- From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:82attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Seiichi Kawamura Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 3:13 PM To: 82attendees@ietf.org Subject: [82attendees] thank you! I had a wonderful time here in Taipei. 3 times at Dintaifung and I wouldn't mind going again if I had another night's stay here. I really thank the hosts and the people of Taiwan for their hospitality and hard work at putting this meeting together! Seiichi -- having free wifi at airport is so nice From wesley.george@twcable.com Tue Nov 29 05:57:16 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF2C21F85DB for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 05:57:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_MODEMCABLE=0.768, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eC0WCOCxNa6A for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 05:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdpipgw02.twcable.com (cdpipgw02.twcable.com [165.237.59.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6EF21F8491 for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 05:57:09 -0800 (PST) X-SENDER-IP: 10.136.163.15 X-SENDER-REPUTATION: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,590,1315195200"; d="scan'208,217";a="287681089" Received: from unknown (HELO PRVPEXHUB06.corp.twcable.com) ([10.136.163.15]) by cdpipgw02.twcable.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 29 Nov 2011 08:51:23 -0500 Received: from PRVPEXVS03.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.26]) by PRVPEXHUB06.corp.twcable.com ([10.136.163.15]) with mapi; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:57:07 -0500 From: "George, Wes" To: "82attendees@ietf.org" <82attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 08:57:06 -0500 Thread-Topic: Travel/Attendees list FAQ Thread-Index: Acyunsei5IzAvQzNRnWrGB+dAb+r2A== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DCC302FAA9FE5F4BBA4DCAD4656937791452CA9562PRVPEXVS03cor_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [82attendees] Travel/Attendees list FAQ X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:57:16 -0000 --_000_DCC302FAA9FE5F4BBA4DCAD4656937791452CA9562PRVPEXVS03cor_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Based on the discussion on the 82 attendees list, I put together a draft th= at provides a list of common questions (but not necessarily answers) that p= eople ask when preparing to travel to a meeting. As the draft states, this = is an attempt to provide a list of ideas for folks who can contribute to a = wiki or host site (because they're familiar with the area), to help them en= sure completeness of the information that they provide. It doesn't compel a= nyone (host, IETF, secretariat, etc) to do anything, merely makes recommend= ations. I figured I'd start by gaining some feedback on the -00 version on the atte= ndees list before I post to the main IETF list. Please have a look and send= comments my way. http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-george-travel-faq-00 Thanks, Wes George ________________________________ This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable propri= etary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to copyrig= ht belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the u= se of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. 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Based on the discussion on the 82 attendees list, I = put together a draft that provides a list of common questions (but not nece= ssarily answers) that people ask when preparing to travel to a meeting. As = the draft states, this is an attempt to provide a list of ideas for folks who can contribute to a wiki or host = site (because they’re familiar with the area), to help them ensure co= mpleteness of the information that they provide. It doesn’t compel an= yone (host, IETF, secretariat, etc) to do anything, merely makes recommendations.

I figured I’d start by gaining some feedback o= n the -00 version on the attendees list before I post to the main IETF list= . Please have a look and send comments my way.

 

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-george-travel-faq-00

 

Thanks,

 

Wes George

 


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Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:27:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VpFrR3nuua0x for <82attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.228]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930AD1F0C8F for <82attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:27:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 34m81i0041YDfWL5F7Tn2Y; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:27:47 +0000 Received: from Paul-Kyzivats-MacBook-Pro.local ([24.62.229.5]) by omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 37Tn1i00F07duvL3g7Tnht; Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:27:47 +0000 Message-ID: <4ED53233.8020402@alum.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 03:27:47 +0800 From: Paul Kyzivat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 82attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [82attendees] Travel/Attendees list FAQ X-BeenThere: 82attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <82attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:27:51 -0000 Wes, This seems good. One addition that would be helpful regarding mass transit: An overview of how the system works: - how to buy tickets - how to use tickets (when/where to stamp them or whatever) - how to identify the proper track in a station - how trains/buses are labeled, how to identify destination of a particular train/bus All this stuff is "obvious" to natives, but can be confusing to newbies. Thanks, Paul On 11/29/11 9:57 PM, George, Wes wrote: > Based on the discussion on the 82 attendees list, I put together a draft > that provides a list of common questions (but not necessarily answers) > that people ask when preparing to travel to a meeting. As the draft > states, this is an attempt to provide a list of ideas for folks who can > contribute to a wiki or host site (because theyre familiar with the > area), to help them ensure completeness of the information that they > provide. It doesnt compel anyone (host, IETF, secretariat, etc) to do > anything, merely makes recommendations. > > I figured Id start by gaining some feedback on the -00 version on the > attendees list before I post to the main IETF list. Please have a look > and send comments my way. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-george-travel-faq-00 > > Thanks, > > Wes George > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable > proprietary information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject > to copyright belonging to Time Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. > If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken > in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is > strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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Hello all=2C

Anyone knows where to shop for electrical devices like = Hair dryers=2C hair straighteners etc. and electronic toys in Taipei nearby= TICC. =3B


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>=3B From: DAtkins@mocana.com
&= gt=3B To: mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com=3B tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk
>=3B Date:= Sun=2C 13 Nov 2011 21:46:36 -0800
>=3B CC: 82attendees@ietf.org
&g= t=3B Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionC= enter area ?
>=3B
>=3B I wonder if my G-B Passport Card will wor= k here=2C too? :)
>=3B
>=3B -derek
>=3B _________________= _______________________
>=3B From: 82attendees-bounces@ietf.org [82att= endees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mary Barnes [mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.c= om]
>=3B Sent: Monday=2C November 14=2C 2011 12:44 AM
>=3B To: Ti= m Chown
>=3B Cc: attendees
>=3B Subject: Re: [82attendees] pub/ba= r/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ?
>=3B
>=3B Ther= e is a Gordon Biersch Restaurant/Brewery over in the shopping
>=3B are= a. You wander across to the Taipei 101 shopping center (using the
>= =3B pedestrian overpass) and then follow that through the mall towards the<= br>>=3B movies (heading left as you enter the mall. Then hang left at t= he
>=3B movies and cross the street. Once over=2C you hang right and = then left
>=3B and it's at the corner towards the end of the first seg= ment.
>=3B
>=3B On Sun=2C Nov 13=2C 2011 at 11:37 PM=2C Tim Chow= n <=3Btjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B There is one call= ed The Tavern close to the hotel=2C but that turned out to sell pretty bad = beer=2C at high tourist prices. Their spicy cabbage and bacon was very int= eresting.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B There seems to be a brew pub wi= thin 5 mins walk which may be rather better.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >= =3B tim
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B On 14 Nov 2011=2C at 05:28=2C =3D= JeffH wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B anybody found a decent= pub/bar/tavern hereabouts hyatt/conventionCenter area ?
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