From N.Leymann@telekom.de Mon Jul 1 00:23:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3F121F9021 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:23:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C8hd2LiOYprH for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcmail23.telekom.de (tcmail23.telekom.de [80.149.113.243]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAB6B21F841E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from he111296.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.90.14]) by tcmail21.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 01 Jul 2013 09:23:24 +0200 Received: from HE100013.emea1.cds.t-internal.com (10.125.65.196) by HE111296.EMEA1.CDS.T-INTERNAL.COM (10.125.90.14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.298.1; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:23:24 +0200 Received: from HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.90.96]) by HE100013.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([::1]) with mapi; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:23:23 +0200 From: To: <87attendees@ietf.org> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:23:20 +0200 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] coffee, sims, ... Thread-Index: Ac50ma5L++fKAoaYQiKKZCWaS+V0vABkev4g Message-ID: <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD5396F85@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] coffee, sims, ... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:23:32 -0000 SGksDQoNCj4gdGhlIHNodXR0bGUgYnVzIGZyb20gdGVnZWwgaXMgMTAw4oKsIHdoaWxlIGEgdGF4 aSBpcyAyMOKCrD8gIGlmIHNvbWVvbmUNCj4gdGFrZXMgdGhlIHNodXR0bGUgYnVzLCBwbGVhc2Ug dGFrZSBwaWN0dXJlcy4gIGl0IG11c3QgYmUgYW1hemluZy4NCkl0J3MgcHJvYmFibHkgdGhlIHNo dXR0bGUgZnJvbSB0aGUgaG90ZWwuIEkgcmVjb21tZW5kIHRha2luZyB0aGUgdGF4aSwNCnRoZXJl IGFyZSBwbGVudHkgb2YgdGF4aXMgYXQgVGVnZWwgYW5kIFNjaMO2bmVmZWxkIGFpcnBvcnQNCigy MCBFdXJvIGFwcGx5IHRvIFRlZ2VsLCBTY2jDtm5lZmVsZCBzaG91bGQgYmUgYXJvdW5kIDQwLTUw IEV1cm8pLg0KDQogIFJlZ2FyZHMNCg0KICAgICBOaWMNCg== From Jan.Seedorf@neclab.eu Mon Jul 1 00:25:30 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FDD21F9EF5 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:25:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_45=0.6, J_CHICKENPOX_54=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7inBmlftD+Jl for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8058421F91B7 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A10B10485A; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:24:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xz3F0OY1rEus; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:24:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from METHONE.office.hd (methone.office.hd [192.168.24.54]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106A7104853; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:24:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from DAPHNIS.office.hd ([169.254.2.234]) by METHONE.office.hd ([192.168.24.54]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:25:07 +0200 From: Jan Seedorf To: Dominik Bay , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] sim cards in Germany Thread-Index: Ac52LAk+9Gv605pdQ0G1W22mzC4k1w== Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:23:46 +0000 Message-ID: <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE55563342@DAPHNIS.office.hd> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.1.5.89] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] sim cards in Germany X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:25:30 -0000 If you do speak German and come across an ALDI: in my experience ALDI-TALK = is the cheapest data rate (300MB only, but also only 7.99 Euros for 30 days= ) http://www.alditalk.de/web/ - Jan > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dominik Bay > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 11:39 AM > To: 87attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [87attendees] coffee, sims, ... >=20 > On 06/29/2013 09:24 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > > what's the story on local data sims? the best i have found so far is > > Surf Flat Rate XL from http://www.fyve.de/. i will be in a rural area > > for the week after the meeting, and suspect i will need my own working > > hotspot. and voice sims? >=20 > T-Mobile via Congstar: >=20 > - congstar Prepaid Starterpaket > -> 9ct/min voice to every destination in Germany > -> prepaid, 10EUR welcome bonus > -> 9,99EUR setup fee > http://www.congstar.de/prepaid/karte/ >=20 > + >=20 > - congstar Surf Flat Option 3000 > -> 19,99EUR for 3GB at 7.2Mbps for 30 days >=20 > Vodafone via Fyve: >=20 > - FYVE Basis Tarif > -> 9ct/min voice to every destination in Germany > -> prepaid, 11EUR welcome bonus > -> 9,99EUR setup fee >=20 > + >=20 > - FYVE Surf-Flatrate XL > -> 15EUR for 1GB at 7.2Mbps for 30 days >=20 > T-Mobile itself: >=20 > - X-tra Data Flat L > -> 1GB at 7.2Mbps for 14.95EUR > https://www.t-mobile.de/T- > D1/cds/Shop/td1_cms_tarifdetailPopup/1,12260,3487,00.html >=20 > - X-tra Call > -> 9ct/min to destinations in Germany > https://www.t-mobile.de/T- > D1/cds/Shop/td1_cms_tarifdetailPopup/1,12260,3387,00.html >=20 >=20 > Most of the SIM cards are voice+data, but Congstar and T-Mobile seem to > offer seperate SIM cards, so you can 1x data and 1x data+voice for your > smartphone. > And it seems the basic principle here is "pay 9,99EUR, get 10EUR welcome > bonus". >=20 > -dominik >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From btv1==8946f7eb113==hscholz@acmepacket.com Mon Jul 1 00:46:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E6B321F9C00 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:46:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_24=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zi3c-3gK0ZTv for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.acmepacket.com (mx2.acmepacket.com [216.41.24.99]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFFF21F9B2D for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:46:42 -0700 (PDT) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1372664791-03fc2110967815000c-zkFhpE Received: from Mail1.acmepacket.com (mail1.acmepacket.com [10.0.0.21]) by mx2.acmepacket.com with ESMTP id NdwcSzVuru8RFn31 (version=TLSv1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 01 Jul 2013 03:46:35 -0400 (EDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: hscholz@acmepacket.com Received: from [172.30.0.40] (10.0.0.30) by Mail1.acmepacket.com (10.0.0.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 03:46:31 -0400 Message-ID: <51D133CE.6070205@acmepacket.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:46:22 +0200 From: Hendrik Scholz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: <87attendees@ietf.org> References: <877DBF9E-7DBA-4539-A558-201CD93F3EA3@amsl.com> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [87attendees] coffee, sims, ... 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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:47:31 -0000 On 06/29/2013 06:48 PM, Brian Trammell wrote: > Translated for non-German speakers: > > > From Berlin Tegel Airport (TXL) (where all of the intercontinental flights arrive): > > via Taxi: > > Depending on traffic, the taxi ride of 11km takes between 15 and 30 minutes, and costs about 15 to 20 Euro. > > via Public Transit: > > Ride Bus X9 to Zoologischer Garten (Berlin Bahnhof Zoo), change to bus 200, direction Michelangelostraße, until the Budapester Straße stop. Use a single Zone AB ticket; this ticket is valid within zones A and B for 120 minutes for travel with multiple changes in the direction of a single destination. Tickets are available at the BVG counter, from the machines near the bus stop at the airport, or from the driver (in this case, please have exact change ready!). I second Brian on this. I am a local and also often stay at the Intercontinental. Take X9 (takes roughly 20 minutes to Bahnhof Zoo). It's the second to last station and even if you miss the right stop it's not a big deal. From Bahnhof Zoo you can take the 200 but can also walk - closer to 15 minutes rather than ten when you have to haul luggage along the construction site that Berlin is in that area. From Bahnhof Zoo you need to walk east. You'll see a KFC on the other side of the street after a few minutes followed by a Sixt car rental station. Follow the walls of the zoo on the left side. At Bahnhof Zoo you'll find a supermarket that is also open Sundays that you can enter from the main street right under the bridge. Btw: for those staying at the IC. They operate a bit different than most other ICs when it comes to lounge access etc. They won't upgrade to club access - it can be purchased during check-in. It includes club access, breakfast downstairs(!) at LA Cafe, Spa access, very fast WiFi (45MBps up+down is what I constantly see) and the mini-bar including liquor and drinks. The surcharge is 90E/day; 60E/day for Ambassador members and 45E/day for Royal Ambassadors. Cheers, Hendrik From harald.albrecht@siemens.com Mon Jul 1 00:48:05 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B88521F9C59 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:48:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8aGkaKwCye9K for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lizzard.sbs.de (lizzard.sbs.de [194.138.37.39]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CD621F9AAE for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 00:47:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2.sbs.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lizzard.sbs.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r617lv12030946 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:47:58 +0200 Received: from defthw99et6msx.ww902.siemens.net ([157.163.148.61]) by mail2.sbs.de (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id r617ltdl021100 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:47:57 +0200 Received: from DEFTHW99ER5MSX.ww902.siemens.net (139.22.70.77) by DEFTHW99ET6MSX.ww902.siemens.net (157.163.148.61) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.298.1; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:47:55 +0200 Received: from DEFTHW99EK5MSX.ww902.siemens.net ([169.254.6.109]) by DEFTHW99ER5MSX.ww902.siemens.net ([139.22.70.77]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Mon, 1 Jul 2013 09:47:55 +0200 From: "Albrecht, Harald" To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] coffee, sims, ... Thread-Index: AQHOdJm75qmLJxVpWkSOzmerepPlXplPdFJg Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 07:47:54 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [139.22.70.42] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] coffee, sims, ... 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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:55:59 -0000 --047d7b10ca5511050204e08a38de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was thinking of booking a SIM via https://www.blauworld.de/ and get it delivered to the hotel. And plan 3 GB for 14,99 EUR - > https://www.blauworld.de/tariff/mobile_internet_flat_3gb Any suggestions? -- Dhruv On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Albrecht, Harald < harald.albrecht@siemens.com> wrote: > Hi, > > welcome to Germany, the land of the bazillion bakeries: more or less even > the smallest bakery or bread shop now has cappuccino and some other coffe= e > variants. Many of them also have seats and tables to sit down and enjoy > your coffee and something to eat. Whoever has been in Germany will know > what I'm referring to ... just walk a little bit and you will stumble > across a bread shop. We have them everywhere, especially in cities. > > -- Harald > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > > Im Auftrag von Randy Bush > > Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Juni 2013 09:25 > > An: 87attendees@ietf.org > > Betreff: [87attendees] coffee, sims, ... > > > > the wiki (http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf87) > > shows the coffee, caf=E9 einstein, to be a 15 minute walk, which is goo= d > for me > > and worth it for a micro-roaster. but it does not open until 08:00!!! > > > > the shuttle bus from tegel is 100=80 while a taxi is 20=80? if someone > takes the > > shuttle bus, please take pictures. it must be amazing. > > > > what's the story on local data sims? the best i have found so far is > Surf Flat > > Rate XL from http://www.fyve.de/. i will be in a rural area for the > week after > > the meeting, and suspect i will need my own working hotspot. and voice > > sims? > > > > randy > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > --047d7b10ca5511050204e08a38de Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I was thinking of booking a SIM via=A0https://www.blauworld.de/=A0and get it = delivered to the hotel.=A0

And pla= n 3 GB for 14,99 EUR - > https://www.blauworld.de/tariff/mobile_internet_flat_= 3gb

Any suggestions?=A0<= /p>

-- Dhruv



On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at = 1:17 PM, Albrecht, Harald <harald.albrecht@siemens.com> wrote:
Hi,

welcome to Germany, the land of the bazillion bakeries: more or less even t= he smallest bakery or bread shop now has cappuccino and some other coffee v= ariants. Many of them also have seats and tables to sit down and enjoy your= coffee and something to eat. Whoever has been in Germany will know what I&= #39;m referring to ... just walk a little bit and you will stumble across a= bread shop. We have them everywhere, especially in cities.

-- Harald

> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: 87attendees-bounc= es@ietf.org [mailto:87a= ttendees-bounces@ietf.org]
> Im Auftrag von Randy Bush
> Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Juni 2013 09:25
> An: 87attendees@ietf.org > Betreff: [87attendees] coffee, sims, ...
>
> the wiki (http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wik= i/ietf87)
> shows the coffee, caf=E9 einstein, to be a 15 minute walk, which is go= od for me
> and worth it for a micro-roaster. =A0but it does not open until 08:00!= !!
>
> the shuttle bus from tegel is 100=80 while a taxi is 20=80? =A0if some= one takes the
> shuttle bus, please take pictures. =A0it must be amazing.
>
> what's the story on local data sims? =A0the best i have found so f= ar is Surf Flat
> Rate XL from http://= www.fyve.de/. =A0i will be in a rural area for the week after
> the meeting, and suspect i will need my own working hotspot. =A0and vo= ice
> sims?
>
> randy
> _______________________________________________
> 87attendees mailing list
> 87attendees@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees
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[188.255.54.202]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 6sm9588679lbu.13.2013.07.02.17.04.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Jul 2013 17:04:46 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-463FA332-2FAB-46C8-B1AF-179EEA977148; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: <128D7206-1590-4C18-ACE3-E0DC39C7BA23@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: Basil Dolmatov Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 04:04:47 +0400 To: Dhruv Dhody Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, "Albrecht, Harald" Subject: Re: [87attendees] coffee, sims, ... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 00:04:50 -0000 --Apple-Mail-463FA332-2FAB-46C8-B1AF-179EEA977148 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-CA41AFC6-459A-4DCA-A60B-8CBFC6832996 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-CA41AFC6-459A-4DCA-A60B-8CBFC6832996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That was the SIM which I failed to persuade to work this spring and provide= r with German-only IVR as a support option ;( dol@=20 @mobile iPad 02.07.2013, =D0=B2 20:55, Dhruv Dhody =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0= =BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB(=D0=B0): > I was thinking of booking a SIM via https://www.blauworld.de/ and get it d= elivered to the hotel.=20 >=20 > And plan 3 GB for 14,99 EUR - > https://www.blauworld.de/tariff/mobile_int= ernet_flat_3gb >=20 > Any suggestions?=20 >=20 > -- Dhruv >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Albrecht, Harald wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> welcome to Germany, the land of the bazillion bakeries: more or less even= the smallest bakery or bread shop now has cappuccino and some other coffee v= ariants. Many of them also have seats and tables to sit down and enjoy your c= offee and something to eat. Whoever has been in Germany will know what I'm r= eferring to ... just walk a little bit and you will stumble across a bread s= hop. We have them everywhere, especially in cities. >>=20 >> -- Harald >>=20 >> > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- >> > Von: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org]= >> > Im Auftrag von Randy Bush >> > Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Juni 2013 09:25 >> > An: 87attendees@ietf.org >> > Betreff: [87attendees] coffee, sims, ... >> > >> > the wiki (http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf87) >> > shows the coffee, caf=C3=A9 einstein, to be a 15 minute walk, which is g= ood for me >> > and worth it for a micro-roaster. but it does not open until 08:00!!! >> > >> > the shuttle bus from tegel is 100=E2=82=AC while a taxi is 20=E2=82=AC?= if someone takes the >> > shuttle bus, please take pictures. it must be amazing. >> > >> > what's the story on local data sims? the best i have found so far is S= urf Flat >> > Rate XL from http://www.fyve.de/. i will be in a rural area for the we= ek after >> > the meeting, and suspect i will need my own working hotspot. and voice= >> > sims? >> > >> > randy >> > _______________________________________________ >> > 87attendees mailing list >> > 87attendees@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --Apple-Mail-CA41AFC6-459A-4DCA-A60B-8CBFC6832996 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That was the SIM which I failed to per= suade to work this spring  and provider with German-only IVR as a suppo= rt option ;(

dol@ 
@mobile iPad


02.07.2013, =D0=B2 20:55, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0= =D0=BB(=D0=B0):

I was thinking of booking a SIM via https://www.blauworld.de/ and get= it delivered to the hotel. 

A= nd plan 3 GB for 14,99 EUR - > https://www.blauworld.de/tariff/mobile_internet_f= lat_3gb

Any suggestions? <= /span>

-- Dhruv



On Mon, Jul 1= , 2013 at 1:17 PM, Albrecht, Harald <harald.albrecht@siemens.com> wrote:
Hi,

welcome to Germany, the land of the bazillion bakeries: more or less even th= e smallest bakery or bread shop now has cappuccino and some other coffee var= iants. Many of them also have seats and tables to sit down and enjoy your co= ffee and something to eat. Whoever has been in Germany will know what I'm re= ferring to ... just walk a little bit and you will stumble across a bread sh= op. We have them everywhere, especially in cities.

-- Harald

> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: 87attendees-bounce= s@ietf.org [mailto:87att= endees-bounces@ietf.org]
> Im Auftrag von Randy Bush
> Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Juni 2013 09:25
> An: 87attendees@ietf.org > Betreff: [87attendees] coffee, sims, ...
>
> the wiki (http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/= ietf87)
> shows the coffee, caf=C3=A9 einstein, to be a 15 minute walk, which is g= ood for me
> and worth it for a micro-roaster.  but it does not open until 08:0= 0!!!
>
> the shuttle bus from tegel is 100=E2=82=AC while a taxi is 20=E2=82=AC?=  if someone takes the
> shuttle bus, please take pictures.  it must be amazing.
>
> what's the story on local data sims?  the best i have found so far= is Surf Flat
> Rate XL from http://w= ww.fyve.de/.  i will be in a rural area for the week after
> the meeting, and suspect i will need my own working hotspot.  and v= oice
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Wed, 3 Jul 2013 05:20:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ph1-NqJ-5ZGV for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 05:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ortiz.unizar.es (ortiz.unizar.es [155.210.1.52]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E4521F9AA0 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 05:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usuarioPC (gtc1pc12.cps.unizar.es [155.210.158.17]) by ortiz.unizar.es (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r63CK6jF029543 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:20:06 +0200 From: "Jose Saldana" To: <87attendees@ietf.org> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:20:10 +0200 Organization: Universidad de Zaragoza Message-ID: <001201ce77e7$a97f3540$fc7d9fc0$@unizar.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CE77F8.6D08A180" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac53ARnmdW5MKruZS9idpgx8S/Q/Ag== Content-Language: es X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd & Bogofilter Subject: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: jsaldana@unizar.es List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 12:20:16 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CE77F8.6D08A180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all. I am happy to announce a session which will be held in IETF87 Berlin, about the traffic generated by online games. You can see a "promotional video" here: http://youtu.be/_G96ULX7Iak (if you cannot watch the video here, see the links below) Some questions we would try to answer: - How is the traffic generated by online games? - What protocols do they use? - What is the average packet size of the traffic of that games? - How many people play online games in the World? - What is the effect of delay and packet loss on online games? - Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? How? (well, this is a very difficult question.) During the session we will not only talk, but we will also play some games (one belonging to each of the main game genres), in order to capture the traffic and to show the effect of delay and packet loss on the playability. It will also be possible for some of the attendants to run an online car race with us during the session (we need 6 or 7 volunteers). The session will last 1 hour. The exact day will be announced soon. Jose Saldana University of Zaragoza. PS: If you cannot see the video on the link, you can download it from here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.mp4 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.wmv https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_320x240_iphone.m p4 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.mov https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.wmv https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_med_res.mp4 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CE77F8.6D08A180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all.

 

I am happy to announce a session which will be held in = IETF87 Berlin, about the traffic generated by online games. You = can see a “promotional video” = here:

 

http://youtu.= be/_G96ULX7Iak (if you cannot watch the = video here, see the links below)

 

Some questions we would try to = answer:

 

- How is the traffic generated by online = games?
- What protocols do they = use?
- What is the average packet size of the traffic of that = games?

- How many people play online games in the = World?

- = What is the effect of delay and packet loss on online = games?

- Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? = How? (well, this is a very difficult = question…)

 

During the session we will not only talk, but we will = also play some games (one belonging to each of the main game = genres), in order to capture the traffic and to show the effect of = delay and packet loss on the playability.

 

It will also be possible for some = of the attendants to run an online car race with us during the = session (we need 6 or 7 volunteers). The session will last 1 hour. The = exact day will be announced soon.

 

Jose Saldana

University of = Zaragoza.


PS: If you cannot see the video on = the link, you can download it from here:

= https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.= mp4

= https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.= wmv

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_= 320x240_iphone.mp4

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_= lowres.mov

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_= lowres.wmv

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_= med_res.mp4

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CE77F8.6D08A180-- From Jan.Seedorf@neclab.eu Wed Jul 3 07:00:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C794021F9C77 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:00:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xxSPVlKOeypx for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD71D21F9C75 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29641104920; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:59:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id efIzBw9aQk61; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:59:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ENCELADUS.office.hd (enceladus.office.hd [192.168.24.52]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF4A10491E; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:59:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from DAPHNIS.office.hd ([169.254.2.234]) by ENCELADUS.office.hd ([192.168.24.52]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:58:54 +0200 From: Jan Seedorf To: "jsaldana@unizar.es" , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games in Berlin Thread-Index: Ac53ARnmdW5MKruZS9idpgx8S/Q/AgA9CIqQ Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:58:53 +0000 Message-ID: <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555656D9@DAPHNIS.office.hd> References: <001201ce77e7$a97f3540$fc7d9fc0$@unizar.es> In-Reply-To: <001201ce77e7$a97f3540$fc7d9fc0$@unizar.es> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.1.99.154] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:00:13 -0000 Jose, Great, one small question for clarification:=20 > - Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? How? (well, this = is a very > difficult question...) Do you mean beat "with" the Playstation, or beat "on" the Playstation? :) - Jan > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jose Saldana > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 2:20 PM > To: 87attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games in Ber= lin >=20 > Hi all. >=20 >=20 >=20 > I am happy to announce a session which will be held in IETF87 Berlin, abo= ut > the traffic generated by online games. You can see a "promotional video" > here: >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://youtu.be/_G96ULX7Iak (if you > cannot watch the video here, see the links below) >=20 >=20 >=20 > Some questions we would try to answer: >=20 >=20 >=20 > - How is the traffic generated by online games? > - What protocols do they use? > - What is the average packet size of the traffic of that games? >=20 > - How many people play online games in the World? >=20 > - What is the effect of delay and packet loss on online games? >=20 > - Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? How? (well, this = is a very > difficult question...) >=20 >=20 >=20 > During the session we will not only talk, but we will also play some game= s > (one belonging to each of the main game genres), in order to capture the > traffic and to show the effect of delay and packet loss on the playabilit= y. >=20 >=20 >=20 > It will also be possible for some of the attendants to run an online car = race > with us during the session (we need 6 or 7 volunteers). The session will = last 1 > hour. The exact day will be announced soon. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Jose Saldana >=20 > University of Zaragoza. >=20 >=20 > PS: If you cannot see the video on the link, you can download it from her= e: >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.mp4 > >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.wmv > >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_320x240_i > phone.mp4 > _iphone.mp4> >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.m > ov > mov> >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.w > mv > wmv> >=20 > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_med_res. > mp4 > s.mp4> >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From jsaldana@unizar.es Wed Jul 3 07:08:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568ED21F9D00 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:08:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BtzmSCDOG1ll for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isuela.unizar.es (isuela.unizar.es [155.210.1.53]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5B421F9CC0 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usuarioPC (gtc1pc12.cps.unizar.es [155.210.158.17]) by isuela.unizar.es (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r63E8es1011551; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:08:40 +0200 From: "Jose Saldana" To: "'Jan Seedorf'" , <87attendees@ietf.org> References: <001201ce77e7$a97f3540$fc7d9fc0$@unizar.es> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555656D9@DAPHNIS.office.hd> In-Reply-To: <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555656D9@DAPHNIS.office.hd> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:08:43 +0200 Organization: Universidad de Zaragoza Message-ID: <002201ce77f6$d3a7c210$7af74630$@unizar.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKBSF4BsCFK9V6kL0DeZNzXik8KygGsg3RTl9/4R4A= Content-Language: es X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd & Bogofilter Subject: Re: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: jsaldana@unizar.es List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:08:50 -0000 I meant Beat "on" the playstation... sorry. Well, if you are defeated, = you can always find an alternative use for the device... but I don't = recommend it. Jose > -----Mensaje original----- > De: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > En nombre de Jan Seedorf > Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 03 de julio de 2013 15:59 > Para: jsaldana@unizar.es; 87attendees@ietf.org > Asunto: Re: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games = in > Berlin >=20 > Jose, >=20 > Great, one small question for clarification: > > - Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? How? (well, > > this is a very difficult question...) > Do you mean beat "with" the Playstation, or beat "on" the Playstation? > :) >=20 > - Jan >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jose Saldana > > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 2:20 PM > > To: 87attendees@ietf.org > > Subject: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games = in > > Berlin > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > I am happy to announce a session which will be held in IETF87 = Berlin, > > about the traffic generated by online games. You can see a = "promotional > video" > > here: > > > > > > > > http://youtu.be/_G96ULX7Iak (if you > > cannot watch the video here, see the links below) > > > > > > > > Some questions we would try to answer: > > > > > > > > - How is the traffic generated by online games? > > - What protocols do they use? > > - What is the average packet size of the traffic of that games? > > > > - How many people play online games in the World? > > > > - What is the effect of delay and packet loss on online games? > > > > - Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? How? (well, > > this is a very difficult question...) > > > > > > > > During the session we will not only talk, but we will also play some > > games (one belonging to each of the main game genres), in order to > > capture the traffic and to show the effect of delay and packet loss = on the > playability. > > > > > > > > It will also be possible for some of the attendants to run an online > > car race with us during the session (we need 6 or 7 volunteers). The > > session will last 1 hour. The exact day will be announced soon. > > > > > > > > Jose Saldana > > > > University of Zaragoza. > > > > > > PS: If you cannot see the video on the link, you can download it = from here: > > > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.mp4 > > > > > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.wmv > > > > > > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_320x240_i > > phone.mp4 > > > > _iphone.mp4> > > > > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.m > > ov > > > > mov> > > > > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.w > > mv > > > > wmv> > > > > > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_med_res. > > mp4 > > > > s.mp4> > > > > > > > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From carlos@lacnic.net Wed Jul 3 07:43:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E8321F9D4F for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:43:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yOaV1++AwaUe for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393BE21F9D4E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 87-7-200.lacnic.net.uy (unknown [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:7000:95b5:9dad:8369:71e3]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70B443084CA; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:43:26 -0300 (UYT) Message-ID: <51D4389F.8060901@lacnic.net> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 11:43:43 -0300 From: "Carlos M. Martinez" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Seedorf References: <001201ce77e7$a97f3540$fc7d9fc0$@unizar.es> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555656D9@DAPHNIS.office.hd> In-Reply-To: <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555656D9@DAPHNIS.office.hd> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: carlos@lacnic.net Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, "jsaldana@unizar.es" Subject: Re: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:43:47 -0000 Is there a ML for this BoF already ? On 7/3/13 10:58 AM, Jan Seedorf wrote: > Jose, > > Great, one small question for clarification: >> - Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? How? (well, this is a very >> difficult question...) > Do you mean beat "with" the Playstation, or beat "on" the Playstation? > :) > > - Jan > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jose Saldana >> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 2:20 PM >> To: 87attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games in Berlin >> >> Hi all. >> >> >> >> I am happy to announce a session which will be held in IETF87 Berlin, about >> the traffic generated by online games. You can see a "promotional video" >> here: >> >> >> >> http://youtu.be/_G96ULX7Iak (if you >> cannot watch the video here, see the links below) >> >> >> >> Some questions we would try to answer: >> >> >> >> - How is the traffic generated by online games? >> - What protocols do they use? >> - What is the average packet size of the traffic of that games? >> >> - How many people play online games in the World? >> >> - What is the effect of delay and packet loss on online games? >> >> - Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? How? (well, this is a very >> difficult question...) >> >> >> >> During the session we will not only talk, but we will also play some games >> (one belonging to each of the main game genres), in order to capture the >> traffic and to show the effect of delay and packet loss on the playability. >> >> >> >> It will also be possible for some of the attendants to run an online car race >> with us during the session (we need 6 or 7 volunteers). The session will last 1 >> hour. The exact day will be announced soon. >> >> >> >> Jose Saldana >> >> University of Zaragoza. >> >> >> PS: If you cannot see the video on the link, you can download it from here: >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.mp4 >> >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.wmv >> >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_320x240_i >> phone.mp4 >> > _iphone.mp4> >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.m >> ov >> > mov> >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.w >> mv >> > wmv> >> >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_med_res. >> mp4 >> > s.mp4> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From oej@edvina.net Wed Jul 3 07:52:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 660F011E81CB for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:52:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7k6sfIjNvwUw for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp7.webway.se (smtp7.webway.se [IPv6:2a02:920:212e::205]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E7011E81C3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.40.15] (h87-96-134-129.dynamic.se.alltele.net [87.96.134.129]) by smtp7.webway.se (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BFC8D93C1AF; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:51:58 +0000 (UTC) From: "Olle E. Johansson" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:51:58 +0200 Message-Id: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> To: 87attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: "Olle E. Johansson" Subject: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:52:01 -0000 Hi! The overflow hotel tells me it's fully booked too... Where are you staying if not in Pullman or Intercontinental? Any = recommendations? /O= From jsaldana@unizar.es Wed Jul 3 07:54:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F7211E81D2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:54:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mv3W1pyVUGQo for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ortiz.unizar.es (ortiz.unizar.es [155.210.1.52]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA4A11E81CD for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usuarioPC (gtc1pc12.cps.unizar.es [155.210.158.17]) by ortiz.unizar.es (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r63Eshes014022; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:54:47 +0200 From: "Jose Saldana" To: "'Carlos M. Martinez'" References: <001201ce77e7$a97f3540$fc7d9fc0$@unizar.es> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555656D9@DAPHNIS.office.hd> <51D4389F.8060901@lacnic.net> In-Reply-To: <51D4389F.8060901@lacnic.net> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 16:54:48 +0200 Organization: Universidad de Zaragoza Message-ID: <003c01ce77fd$45db6340$d19229c0$@unizar.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKBSF4BsCFK9V6kL0DeZNzXik8KygGsg3RTAZGyuDiX03bCIA== Content-Language: es X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd & Bogofilter Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: jsaldana@unizar.es List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:54:57 -0000 Hi, Carlos. The online games session is not a BOF. It will be included in the = Transport Area Open Meeting (currently on Thursday Morning). Best regards, Jose PS: We are also organizing a BOF somewhat related to online games: = TCM-TF. The list is tcmtf@ietf.org. https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tcmtf A summary of the ideas of TCMTF is here: http://diec.unizar.es/~jsaldana/personal/ietf/tcmtf_2013.pdf It is currently placed on Thursday afternoon. > -----Mensaje original----- > De: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > En nombre de Carlos M. Martinez > Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 03 de julio de 2013 16:44 > Para: Jan Seedorf > CC: 87attendees@ietf.org; jsaldana@unizar.es > Asunto: Re: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games = in > Berlin >=20 > Is there a ML for this BoF already ? >=20 > On 7/3/13 10:58 AM, Jan Seedorf wrote: > > Jose, > > > > Great, one small question for clarification: > >> - Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? How? (well, > >> this is a very difficult question...) > > Do you mean beat "with" the Playstation, or beat "on" the = Playstation? > > :) > > > > - Jan > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jose Saldana > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 2:20 PM > >> To: 87attendees@ietf.org > >> Subject: [87attendees] A session about the traffic of online games = in > >> Berlin > >> > >> Hi all. > >> > >> > >> > >> I am happy to announce a session which will be held in IETF87 = Berlin, > >> about the traffic generated by online games. You can see a = "promotional > video" > >> here: > >> > >> > >> > >> http://youtu.be/_G96ULX7Iak (if you > >> cannot watch the video here, see the links below) > >> > >> > >> > >> Some questions we would try to answer: > >> > >> > >> > >> - How is the traffic generated by online games? > >> - What protocols do they use? > >> - What is the average packet size of the traffic of that games? > >> > >> - How many people play online games in the World? > >> > >> - What is the effect of delay and packet loss on online games? > >> > >> - Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? How? (well, > >> this is a very difficult question...) > >> > >> > >> > >> During the session we will not only talk, but we will also play = some > >> games (one belonging to each of the main game genres), in order to > >> capture the traffic and to show the effect of delay and packet loss = on the > playability. > >> > >> > >> > >> It will also be possible for some of the attendants to run an = online > >> car race with us during the session (we need 6 or 7 volunteers). = The > >> session will last 1 hour. The exact day will be announced soon. > >> > >> > >> > >> Jose Saldana > >> > >> University of Zaragoza. > >> > >> > >> PS: If you cannot see the video on the link, you can download it = from > here: > >> > >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.mp4 > >> > >> > >> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.wmv > >> > >> > >> > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_320x240_i > >> phone.mp4 > >> > >> _iphone.mp4> > >> > >> > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.m > >> ov > >> > >> mov> > >> > >> > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.w > >> mv > >> > >> wmv> > >> > >> > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_med_res. > >> mp4 > >> > >> s.mp4> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From mbeaulieu@amsl.com Wed Jul 3 07:55:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C22B11E81C4 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:55:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6hnW5KeB6pPN for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:55:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BA711E81BA for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c9a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6215BA8AF5; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:54:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c9a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c9a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id obeAI1OgNBRs; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from new-host.home (pool-71-163-123-187.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.163.123.187]) by c9a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C3438A89DC; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 07:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-30--580853909 From: Marcia Beaulieu In-Reply-To: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:55:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> To: "Olle E. Johansson" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:55:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail-30--580853909 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Olle, A few options were sent out yesterday, here is the list of hotels close = to the InterContinental: 4. Accommodations Currently the venue hotel (InterContinental) and overflow hotel = (Pullman) are both fully booked. The following hotels are near the = InterContinental though we are not holding blocks at any of them. Pestana = http://www.pestana.com/en/pestana-berlin-tiergarten-hotel/pages/home.aspx Distance from InterContinental: approximately 1-2 minute walk Hotel Berlin http://www.hotel-berlin.de/en/hotel-berlin.html Distance from InterContinental: approximately 5-7 minute walk Das Stue Hotel http://www.das-stue.com/en/ Distance from InterContinental: approximately 7-10 minute walk Kind regards, Marcia On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Olle E. Johansson wrote: > Hi! >=20 > The overflow hotel tells me it's fully booked too... >=20 > Where are you staying if not in Pullman or Intercontinental? Any = recommendations? >=20 > /O > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 Marcia Beaulieu / Sr. Meeting Planner / IETF Association Management Solutions, LLC 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1 510 492 4083 Email: mbeaulieu@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com --Apple-Mail-30--580853909 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Dear = Olle,

A few options were sent out yesterday, here is = the list of hotels close to the = InterContinental:

4. =  Accommodations
Currently the venue hotel (InterContinental) and = overflow hotel (Pullman) are both fully booked. The following hotels are = near the InterContinental though we are not holding blocks at any of = them.

Pestana
http://www.pestana.com/en/pestana-berlin-tiergarten-hotel/pages/h= ome.aspx
Distance from InterContinental: approximately 1-2 minute = walk

Hotel Berlin
http://www.hotel-= berlin.de/en/hotel-berlin.html
Distance from InterContinental: = approximately 5-7 minute walk

Das Stue Hotel
http://www.das-stue.com/en/
Di= stance from InterContinental: approximately 7-10 minute = walk

Kind = regards,
Marcia

On Jul 3, 2013, at = 10:51 AM, Olle E. Johansson wrote:

Hi!

The overflow hotel tells me it's fully = booked too...

Where are you staying if not in Pullman or = Intercontinental? Any = recommendations?

/O
____________________________________________= ___
87attendees mailing list
87attendees@ietf.org
https://w= ww.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees

<= br>
Marcia Beaulieu / Sr. Meeting Planner / = IETF
Phone: +1 510 492 = 4083
mbeaulieu@amsl.com

Managed by = Association Management Solutions (AMS)
Forum Management, Meeting and Event = Planning
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Johansson" , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked Thread-Index: AQHOd/zl0iOJCRFo5kO6Qg1RxzTmIplTHv+A Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:08:00 +0000 Message-ID: <0C48A5C715C20C4D8F94B6E3268CB21BF39283@xmb-aln-x03.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.5.130515 x-originating-ip: [10.117.99.246] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <22C81A37B4DF6C41B3A7B8E202BB8CC0@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 15:08:06 -0000 I was able to book @ the Crown-Plaza .. http://www.crowneplazaberlin.com/en/ -- Fer On 7/3/13 10:51 AM, "Olle E. 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[198.228.224.9]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w5sm13557682igz.10.2013.07.03.09.16.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Jul 2013 09:16:56 -0700 (PDT) References: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B329) From: Colleen Louw Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 12:13:02 -0400 To: "Olle E. Johansson" Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, "Olle E. Johansson" Subject: Re: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 16:16:58 -0000 The Marriott is a couple of blocks away. Cheers=20 On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Olle E. Johansson" wrote: > Hi! >=20 > The overflow hotel tells me it's fully booked too... >=20 > Where are you staying if not in Pullman or Intercontinental? Any recommend= ations? >=20 > /O > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From raysaikat@gmail.com Wed Jul 3 09:26:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7125E21F9D00 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:26:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Eo2RTh4rgrQ0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x231.google.com (mail-ve0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4495821F9CE7 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id cz10so299429veb.22 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 09:26:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+V3cYt+0642ZsX9Z2H0ExHrvlKHKcqJ6YUcTb+CFQlE=; b=OkLSyCZiZSQkW6mwRgj8MHztLtzs2a8VsXdZlIToH7cQY6lCgtZYU7h7hXBIvAHJZ1 nTLQL2Z+JU3aFwZwGeiE7Q5ZUzdDi/gx2IWRl33cDaagegdftrAp744BGXWhANHUGHLv l+aJ4r84Z2WhpSFnDB/HbIUX1tWDqamJKaS1EcuBC8i2T99/NnFw1nCdfRKJ7qM7ugK/ 45sx5Z8+OKDZpbyVmFZhvj17WO4pXQXKzJThbsFmzdSMB4ms3bR9Y47w3vqrhgBwptcr 9CwGIBGZKKk6lxTIk5OlJmP7hoko9cTvCO6ZiasxCYj9+bqqQT1Zcpjg7m8ukwN9iAQb PJSQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.67.10 with SMTP id p10mr476537vci.85.1372868766778; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 09:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.243.73 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:26:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:26:06 -0700 Message-ID: From: Saikat Ray To: Colleen Louw Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3439482acab104e09deba6 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, "Olle E. Johansson" Subject: Re: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 16:26:08 -0000 --047d7b3439482acab104e09deba6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I booked Swissotel that came out in our internal reservation system. Any idea if it is ok? On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Colleen Louw wrote: > The Marriott is a couple of blocks away. > > Cheers > > On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Olle E. Johansson" > > wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > The overflow hotel tells me it's fully booked too... > > > > Where are you staying if not in Pullman or Intercontinental? Any > recommendations? > > > > /O > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > -- Saikat Ray Web: http://raysaikat.googlepages.com --047d7b3439482acab104e09deba6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I booked Swissotel that came out in our=A0internal reservation= system. Any idea if it is ok?

On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Colleen L= ouw wrote:
The Marriott is a couple of blocks away.

Cheers

On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Olle E. Johansson" <87attendees@ietf.org
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if it helps.

El 03-07-2013, a las 12:26, = Saikat Ray <raysaikat@gmail.com> = escribi=F3:

I booked Swissotel that came out in = our internal reservation system. Any idea if it is = ok?

On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Colleen Louw = wrote:
The Marriott is a couple of blocks away.

Cheers

On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Olle E. Johansson" <oej@edvina.net> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> The overflow hotel tells me it's fully booked too...
>
> Where are you staying if not in Pullman or Intercontinental? Any = recommendations?
>
> /O
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> 87attendees@ietf.org
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= = --Apple-Mail=_52E851D5-34D7-411F-BCC2-68623D3E959D-- From eckert@cisco.com Wed Jul 3 10:22:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704DE21F9DDC for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:22:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v01GNd6GIXGs for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83D121F9DDB for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:22:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2027; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1372872141; x=1374081741; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=s+yUZrRJvPnStinH2O8WQFl/+qj6+CuovF7bBpXsB0A=; b=Gq1bG2XoUdWzcoF9bBiYlZFaQA+O1+wFyCEbUVDtftXQSaLgENXFpXtN dlfA5v9XjncxpGVhsOBwMoBN2yzhj3LilE2YZeNo0UnZFFXmqDa9QpjPm njRITjziBoPhUr23exWA9bNvR5tYSrEXgbF443NTpMvSOjiR+tQP6SiIX g=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjEFAF5d1FGrRDoH/2dsb2JhbABXA4MJMsB+gQQWdIIjAQEBBAEBATcPJQsFCQILDgQGCSUPBQcMIhQTG4dzDbpjBI4lgTIQBxGDXAOJI44lAYwjhSKDMRyBNQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,989,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="85139312" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 03 Jul 2013 17:22:18 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r63HMHe7009824 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 3 Jul 2013 17:22:17 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r63HMH3a008817; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:22:17 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r63HMGke008815; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:22:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:22:16 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: Marcia Beaulieu Message-ID: <20130703172216.GY17405@cisco.com> References: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, "Olle E. Johansson" Subject: Re: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 17:22:27 -0000 I booked the Pestana because it was reasonably priced (94 Euro) and new. No idea if it's good, but couldn't find negative reviews... On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 10:55:37AM -0400, Marcia Beaulieu wrote: > Dear Olle, > > A few options were sent out yesterday, here is the list of hotels close to the InterContinental: > > 4. Accommodations > Currently the venue hotel (InterContinental) and overflow hotel (Pullman) are both fully booked. The following hotels are near the InterContinental though we are not holding blocks at any of them. > > Pestana > http://www.pestana.com/en/pestana-berlin-tiergarten-hotel/pages/home.aspx > Distance from InterContinental: approximately 1-2 minute walk > > Hotel Berlin > http://www.hotel-berlin.de/en/hotel-berlin.html > Distance from InterContinental: approximately 5-7 minute walk > > Das Stue Hotel > http://www.das-stue.com/en/ > Distance from InterContinental: approximately 7-10 minute walk > > Kind regards, > Marcia > > On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Olle E. Johansson wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > The overflow hotel tells me it's fully booked too... > > > > Where are you staying if not in Pullman or Intercontinental? 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From agmalis@gmail.com Wed Jul 3 10:29:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E83FB21F86AE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:29:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aXSO4ffdN+mL for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x236.google.com (mail-wg0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE9211E811A for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n11so354265wgh.21 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:29:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=IyLy0tSTiz6MWpp6QdRI0R0tqyGljD5LUtqDVDjdl2c=; b=U2IljjDmuCdp7SWW4BiA/MaxqE8W25dbNWotmbr8MIZdl7vadn2qm50VRRmnrtL60o B2Eqhn1OTftDq9J+SuJKtGwOgPCOTi4KXL/FQqvR9bvT+hXkUfK/iQGY+T1Ggn8146dg 2AdFMtU93GYqjwM1oc7f1y2ijbUMxddIxbitHIHxIF1H4wc2Ohe31nma7tCO6G+pk1Dk OqbMTHNy5rOk+6CEkjFYfkRmgxdA67VkabowDXBBcU+v09W2Oe4wVw6mHmmeHXV0Wqtf sYFh2k6QgxW9R7raPgOkK0fJMPL3Cdu+R/FcGmp49gvhanvkv3kFHw6A6krlnsOanri/ MWYA== X-Received: by 10.195.13.195 with SMTP id fa3mr1186274wjd.80.1372872552837; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 10:29:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.241.200 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 10:28:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> From: "Andrew G. Malis" Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:28:52 -0400 Message-ID: To: Saikat Ray Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc87e0d576f504e09ecc64 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Colleen Louw , "Olle E. Johansson" Subject: Re: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 17:29:15 -0000 --047d7bdc87e0d576f504e09ecc64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I stayed in the Swissotel several years ago. Excellent, modern hotel, I would stay there again. Cheers, Andy On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Saikat Ray wrote: > I booked Swissotel that came out in our internal reservation system. Any > idea if it is ok? > > > On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Colleen Louw wrote: > >> The Marriott is a couple of blocks away. >> >> Cheers >> >> On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Olle E. Johansson" wrote: >> >> > Hi! >> > >> > The overflow hotel tells me it's fully booked too... >> > >> > Where are you staying if not in Pullman or Intercontinental? Any >> recommendations? >> > >> > /O >> > _______________________________________________ >> > 87attendees mailing list >> > 87attendees@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> > > > -- > Saikat Ray > Web: http://raysaikat.googlepages.com > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > --047d7bdc87e0d576f504e09ecc64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I stayed in the Swissotel several years ago. Excellent, mo= dern hotel, I would stay there again.

Cheers,
Andy

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On Wed, Jul 3,= 2013 at 12:26 PM, Saikat Ray <raysaikat@gmail.com> wrote:=
I booked Swissotel that came out in our=A0internal reservation system. Any idea if it is ok?


On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Colleen Louw wrote:<= br>
The Marriott is a couple of blocks away.

Cheers

On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Olle E. Johansson" <oej@edvin= a.net> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> The overflow hotel tells me it's fully booked too...
>
> Where are you staying if not in Pullman or Intercontinental? Any recom= mendations?
>
> /O
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[74.76.87.23]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ir5sm343778veb.6.2013.07.03.18.32.16 for <87attendees@ietf.org> (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Jul 2013 18:32:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Burger Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_329472C6-D733-4D73-82A5-4EF7599DCE5E"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 Message-Id: <8B0C9872-09A3-4F93-B64A-8BC54CC460F2@georgetown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 21:31:13 -0400 References: To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkK1v17hBLfVkyLBj+xXwvavPKWZ0YGMDvA3ReepIgwfcrs8fFIhsDjf081ESUg1m2V3cpY Subject: Re: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 01:32:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_329472C6-D733-4D73-82A5-4EF7599DCE5E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Party at the Hotel Berlin. I'm there Monday - Thursday. Dirt cheap and = three block walk. On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:31 PM, iru wrote: >=20 > I reserved this place which is just few hundred meters away from the = venue.=20 >=20 > Hotel L=FCtzow > Keithstr. 38 > 10787 Berlin > Tel.: +49(0)30-491022-620 > Fax: +49(0)30-491022-9620 > E-Mail: info@hotel-luetzow.de >=20 >=20 > Sent from Samsung Mobile >=20 > "Andrew G. Malis" wrote: > I stayed in the Swissotel several years ago. Excellent, modern hotel, = I would stay there again. >=20 > Cheers, > Andy >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Saikat Ray = wrote: > I booked Swissotel that came out in our internal reservation system. = Any idea if it is ok? >=20 >=20 > On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Colleen Louw wrote: > The Marriott is a couple of blocks away. >=20 > Cheers >=20 > On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:51 AM, "Olle E. Johansson" = wrote: >=20 > > Hi! > > > > The overflow hotel tells me it's fully booked too... > > > > Where are you staying if not in Pullman or Intercontinental? 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tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UfbV8gEnRxf6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta1.xantaro.net (mta1.xantaro.net [81.209.178.195]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC0521F9CB5 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xdg-mail.de.xantaro.local ([192.168.200.11]) by mta1.xantaro.net with ESMTP id r643roLW021226-r643roLY021226 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=CAFAIL); Thu, 4 Jul 2013 05:53:50 +0200 Received: from xdg-mail.de.xantaro.local ([fe80::1]) by xdg-mail.de.xantaro.local ([fe80::1%1]) with mapi; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 05:53:50 +0200 From: Carsten Michel To: "Olle E. Johansson" , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 05:53:49 +0200 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked Thread-Index: Ac53/OHj3I94V8pPSvm5z2PEyHa8YgAbGdnu Message-ID: References: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> In-Reply-To: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> Accept-Language: en-US, de-DE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 03:54:13 -0000 Hi! for those of you looking for someting cheap I definitively recommend the Mo= tel-One Berlin-Tiergarten located at An der Urania 12, 10787 Berlin. Motel = One is a chain in Germany with five or six hotels in Berlin but this one is= closest with 10min walking distance. Rooms are modern and clean although a= little bit small. I use the quite regularly when traveling within Germany. Cheers, Carsten ________________________________________ From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf= Of Olle E. Johansson [oej@edvina.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 16:51 To: 87attendees@ietf.org Cc: Olle E. Johansson Subject: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked Hi! The overflow hotel tells me it's fully booked too... Where are you staying if not in Pullman or Intercontinental? Any recommenda= tions? /O _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees= From Ray.Bellis@nominet.org.uk Thu Jul 4 04:13:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9885121F9F96 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 04:13:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KAarEaiL-oJT for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 04:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.nominet.org.uk (mx1.nominet.org.uk [213.248.242.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA16521F9F58 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 04:12:53 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: s=main.dk.nominet.selector; d=nominet.org.uk; c=nofws; q=dns; h=X-IronPort-AV:Received:Received:From:To:Subject: Thread-Topic:Thread-Index:Date:Message-ID:References: In-Reply-To:Accept-Language:Content-Language: X-MS-Has-Attach:X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:x-originating-ip: Content-Type:Content-ID:Content-Transfer-Encoding: MIME-Version; b=n/rOsWPVzgx2yt6/LDVQ/uTxZt7J3iWY3C7XSZeRzEtPY6TmGu7RmAsK gSmYXvPoBYSNoEci9Mmp0q69nuPR0nKc3WOMagIsitITWPYA+TWYVgmEz eNDSCZ6jtpmJPtE; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nominet.org.uk; i=@nominet.org.uk; q=dns/txt; s=main.dkim.nominet.selector; t=1372936373; x=1404472373; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=tn4+ARo9aWn2D87cBg/gZNacm0bJDQvrU4468fOZrs4=; b=JeXQ1gorMwaxlwXOM7tSO1+5qmhJxYsUmAMXfxStbrZ45lUAXVM/+nYf cLhXfvp0dxXG1AOvV20E8MSbm9kBc2tYYPC2JIG/qUBoKopnFgeKJqlmD DN7/yNJR1d0GXUR; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,994,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="1804134" Received: from wds-exc2.okna.nominet.org.uk ([213.248.197.145]) by mx1.nominet.org.uk with ESMTP; 04 Jul 2013 12:12:51 +0100 Received: from WDS-EXC1.okna.nominet.org.uk ([fe80::1593:1394:a91f:8f5f]) by wds-exc2.okna.nominet.org.uk ([fe80::7577:eaca:5241:25d4%17]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 12:12:51 +0100 From: Ray Bellis To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked Thread-Index: AQHOd/zm0JRxO3fTakifQjWGTCnrlZlUThkA Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 11:12:50 +0000 Message-ID: <53F00E5CD8B2E34C81C0C89EB0B4FE732DDEA8EE@wds-exc1.okna.nominet.org.uk> References: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> In-Reply-To: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.2.1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 11:13:06 -0000 If you've tried to book the Pullman, it may be worth checking that you've a= ctually got a room! I sent in a booking request by fax on Monday, before it was announced that = they were full. The request was rejected, but I didn't receive the alleged email telling me= that. I only found out when I phoned up to check after reading this threa= d. I've now got a booking at the Pestana, instead. Ray From stefan.winter@restena.lu Thu Jul 4 04:18:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6619B21F9F9A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 04:18:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.687, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hop73of4WHdp for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 04:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtprelay.restena.lu (smtprelay.restena.lu [IPv6:2001:a18:1::62]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C9C21F9F95 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 04:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtprelay.restena.lu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtprelay.restena.lu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CC010581 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 13:18:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from aragorn.restena.lu (aragorn.restena.lu [IPv6:2001:a18:1:8::155]) by smtprelay.restena.lu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D47610580 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 13:18:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51D559FD.6080505@restena.lu> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 13:18:21 +0200 From: Stefan Winter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130510 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <756B2D40-3F9A-48A5-8779-1E1D48EAB673@edvina.net> <53F00E5CD8B2E34C81C0C89EB0B4FE732DDEA8EE@wds-exc1.okna.nominet.org.uk> In-Reply-To: <53F00E5CD8B2E34C81C0C89EB0B4FE732DDEA8EE@wds-exc1.okna.nominet.org.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2JLJKFCCCGDKWEXEQTRIE" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV Subject: Re: [87attendees] Pullman fully booked X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 11:18:27 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2JLJKFCCCGDKWEXEQTRIE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, > I sent in a booking request by fax on Monday, before it was announced t= hat they were full. >=20 > The request was rejected, but I didn't receive the alleged email tellin= g me that. I only found out when I phoned up to check after reading this= thread. The same happened to me; but they found a return channel: I got a fax reply the next day from management saying they're sorry. Now at Crowne Plaza. Stefan --=20 Stefan WINTER Ingenieur de Recherche Fondation RESTENA - R=E9seau T=E9l=E9informatique de l'Education National= e et de la Recherche 6, rue Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi L-1359 Luxembourg Tel: +352 424409 1 Fax: +352 422473 ------enig2JLJKFCCCGDKWEXEQTRIE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHVWgEACgkQ+jm90f8eFWZ0FwCeIgRBHf7QMeynmpR3BTJfKa2j NXwAn3Kpj/TEwLpmgdq80TeSr2Rfe58K =Grmd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2JLJKFCCCGDKWEXEQTRIE-- From finlayson@live555.com Fri Jul 5 21:26:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05CD11E8119 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 21:26:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zrDpYSdIFzUE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 21:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.live555.com (ns.live555.com [4.79.217.242]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BDE111E80F0 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 21:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost.live555.com [127.0.0.1]) by ns.live555.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r664Q0IE005340 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 21:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from finlayson@live555.com) From: Ross Finlayson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 21:26:00 -0700 To: 87attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Subject: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 04:26:07 -0000 The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to the = public, but you have to register in advance online to visit it: http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html (Also, the dome is closed from July 22-26.) Ross. 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Sun, 7 Jul 2013 16:05:04 +0000 Received: from CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.11.119]) by CH1PRD0810HT001.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.145.164]) with mapi id 14.16.0329.000; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 16:05:03 +0000 From: Scott Brim To: Ross Finlayson , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building Thread-Index: AQHOeyu9zLVXyovK+k2Zd1Pn1EwFtg== Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 16:05:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.255.145.132] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <7786B7A6EEA1C14EA4ADC2F0F869084C@namprd08.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: internet2.edu Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 16:05:14 -0000 T24gMDcvMDYvMTMgMDA6MjYsICJSb3NzIEZpbmxheXNvbiIgPGZpbmxheXNvbkBsaXZlNTU1LmNv bT4gYWxsZWdlZGx5DQp3cm90ZToNCg0KPlRoZSBkb21lIG9mIHRoZSBmYW1vdXMgUmVpY2hzdGFn IGJ1aWxkaW5nIGluIEJlcmxpbiBpcyBvcGVuIHRvIHRoZQ0KPnB1YmxpYywgYnV0IHlvdSBoYXZl IHRvIHJlZ2lzdGVyIGluIGFkdmFuY2Ugb25saW5lIHRvIHZpc2l0IGl0Og0KPglodHRwOi8vd3d3 LmJ1bmRlc3RhZy5kZS9odGRvY3NfZS92aXNpdHMva3VwcC5odG1sDQo+DQo+KEFsc28sIHRoZSBk b21lIGlzIGNsb3NlZCBmcm9tIEp1bHkgMjItMjYuKQ0KPg0KPglSb3NzLg0KDQpJdCBsb29rcyBs aWtlIHRoZXkgYXJlIGdlYXJlZCB0b3dhcmQgZ3JvdXBzLiAgRG8geW91IGhhdmUgYSBzY2hlZHVs ZWQgdGltZT8NCg0K From ietf@rozanak.com Sun Jul 7 10:43:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21CC11E80E6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 10:43:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fx+fpq14pDbY for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 10:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACBE11E80E3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 10:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kopoli (e179165227.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.179.165.227]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M093M-1U3uqx3X1Y-00uiFI; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:43:02 -0400 From: "Hosnieh Rafiee" To: "'Scott Brim'" References: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 19:42:30 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQLe1zNHgMN0aLk3wwbOi5Pp2nl5sZc4wnNA Content-Language: en-us X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:hVUjlFeFKKYsn9kmWVCz4JhfZyS1clXf1V7WTmNYNxE fbLi5eQdQzg2BrFS7wYIfXoeR9AGnr6FV8IwxproH8vJg5t0c2 7nFwkp43BsBFNo0eOq3D9rOrHXCxpG/GSzmCXmnIVxmthuvH99 YtxwrqZkZ8o6Hne08XP+hqX2iee72T6HXodCc3JFWv0I9bllH0 cMlz+jcQjSOejOq7POt6nJ1Dznqi3h03SC0dZETVlP6F1HwtU2 aBvw8wxJKBRmJz+97ZXY6uu4b9ryoFTKvSiZrlWTRj6ZiNrUML FIM3wMPS6lpfLjev85Z+X4DNRuyQPmqsyOTzj5Tilkg3gMZ89/ IvYFXFZCqwmv0XirpZ/8= Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, 'Ross Finlayson' Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 17:43:22 -0000 In order to visit the Reichstag you will need to register one month before you planned to visit. They do provide group registration so maybe it would be possible to register as a group but time has just about run out. Regards, Hosnieh > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Scott Brim > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:05 PM > To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag > building > > On 07/06/13 00:26, "Ross Finlayson" allegedly > wrote: > > >The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to the > >public, but you have to register in advance online to visit it: > > http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html > > > >(Also, the dome is closed from July 22-26.) > > > > Ross. > > It looks like they are geared toward groups. Do you have a scheduled time? > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From eckert@cisco.com Sun Jul 7 11:58:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 210AA11E80FF for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 11:58:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Op5nSicJIXlk for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 11:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E815811E80EE for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 11:58:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3173; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1373223509; x=1374433109; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=TV9sTamZLapOQjb35KS70n+vVKhQ2uUOt2fGcRlrsrA=; b=KxCaiJsJl6lok1Rx1G640JBtXIuDq2gT3Zs6CBYePgzoqk6sjkuTEYSF tKPKAXrURTf2HWBAKmOhOCGdM1t/hXzmRj5WUDXDsVah2Hem+rfNval5J 2fHm2+4LO3UcYxJr07YWBgtM3svtKSZBFXAvbqyGQIo5J07ogalforMN7 o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFACK52VGrRDoJ/2dsb2JhbABagwkywSqBCBZ0giMBAQEBAwEBATc0CwwECw4DBAEBAQkeBw8FEx8JDhOIDg23cI9rBwaDaQOJJYpbg1IBkUiDMRw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,1014,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="82901407" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Jul 2013 18:58:28 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r67IwR0i009749 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Jul 2013 18:58:27 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r67IwRdT017834; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 11:58:27 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r67IwQGE017831; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 11:58:26 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 11:58:26 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: Hosnieh Rafiee Message-ID: <20130707185826.GX17405@cisco.com> References: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, 'Ross Finlayson' , 'Scott Brim' Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 18:58:34 -0000 Hmm... I couldn't see the 4-week pre-registration. Any URL ? The german web page would let me put in requests for July and August. And supposedly, if you can click it, it's available. I hours. Its just closed for cleaning Jul 22-26. The politicians are also on vacation, so you can't see a parliamentary session, but in return, there are also no blackout times for tours through the building and they let 600 people into the dome and terrace at the same time. When it's in session, it's only 200 visitors (latest fire marshal rulings). You can even go to the building more than two hours in advance and get a free slot. The question then is just whether there would be a free slot (probably less so on a summer weekend). Tuesday at noon they've got a tourist lecture slot (45 min) in english in the assembly hall (it's every hour during the week but otherwise just in german). Not sure if they would do it at a different slot for a larger group. But the booking system shows it as available on tuesday during IETF week in english. The tours on the other hand in english seem to be booked out during the week, they've only got few slots there. In german, ther are few tour slots available, but alas they don't work for me (WGs). So i guess, the best bet is to figure out the time you're interested, probably early in the day during the week when you've got no WGs, or late at night, and then put it into the reservation system and then just visit the dome / ceiling and maybe have lunch/dinner on the roof restaurant (somewhat expensive). And you better reserve that as well ;-) Walking distance to the Reichstag: 36 minutes, public transport: 33 minutes *grin*. Cheers Toerless On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: > In order to visit the Reichstag you will need to register one month before > you planned to visit. They do provide group registration so maybe it would > be possible to register as a group but time has just about run out. > > Regards, > Hosnieh > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > > On Behalf Of Scott Brim > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:05 PM > > To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the > Reichstag > > building > > > > On 07/06/13 00:26, "Ross Finlayson" allegedly > > wrote: > > > > >The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to the > > >public, but you have to register in advance online to visit it: > > > http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html > > > > > >(Also, the dome is closed from July 22-26.) > > > > > > Ross. > > > > It looks like they are geared toward groups. Do you have a scheduled > time? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From ietf@rozanak.com Sun Jul 7 12:15:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25EC121F9F4F for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 12:15:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gGOL7k2iH+EN for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 12:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A125F21F9CC7 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 12:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kopoli (e179165227.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.179.165.227]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0Lxh59-1U7SSG440B-016T4u; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:15:10 -0400 From: "Hosnieh Rafiee" To: "'Toerless Eckert'" References: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> <20130707185826.GX17405@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <20130707185826.GX17405@cisco.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 21:14:31 +0200 Message-ID: <002301ce7b46$49ea44a0$ddbecde0$@rozanak.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQDFJvDfM1KYLiokfD9oqPsTJYaZAQLe1zNHAx05GEYBWpHE15sxhpHw Content-Language: en-us X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:BYJib2bMfipLTe6BlX6+yLnDDUFSeuhDRvKHKfXOCPk mz2b3rYtrsjvluj1mdxBqPLFE9XKAz54nNlO6uz0g3AcxwGAnR 1WL1MTcRERBDOQLOkJDrkTBpG/qX3dGMVDpyyT6YSsHy1KC81e RFIHrcY8aeWgSn1JzH02htTUNov3+UMVgrA6Jaa9YTvToXBzkZ mSdiU97wj+UBX+0qmbR9bp/gd3x1wOfipW2OV1wRdhH/HwHPt+ 6faMMw1sosMpkWieClNCSc1IDatS8UMpUhB3m0Hn0H8lZUVS9K OsMzvv3AmKKQ4DGtTCrmlm3fTohvUAXABcAA+wweoOVluV6Ajs 3puIbu4cNH/iy7QdHpvg= Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, 'Ross Finlayson' , 'Scott Brim' Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 19:15:21 -0000 They do a background check of the people wanting to visit there so that is why it takes so long. If you been there before the process is much faster. Maybe it will be possible for the IETF organizer to apply as a group and speed the process up. Hosnieh > -----Original Message----- > From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:eckert@cisco.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:58 PM > To: Hosnieh Rafiee > Cc: 'Scott Brim'; 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson' > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag > building > > Hmm... I couldn't see the 4-week pre-registration. Any URL ? The german web > page would let me put in requests for July and August. And supposedly, if you > can click it, it's available. I hours. Its just closed for cleaning Jul 22-26. The > politicians are also on vacation, so you can't see a parliamentary session, but in > return, there are also no blackout times for tours through the building and they > let 600 people into the dome and terrace at the same time. When it's in > session, it's only 200 visitors (latest fire marshal rulings). > > You can even go to the building more than two hours in advance and get a free > slot. > The question then is just whether there would be a free slot (probably less so on > a summer weekend). > > Tuesday at noon they've got a tourist lecture slot (45 min) in english in the > assembly hall (it's every hour during the week but otherwise just in german). > Not sure if they would do it at a different slot for a larger group. But the > booking system shows it as available on tuesday during IETF week in english. > > The tours on the other hand in english seem to be booked out during the week, > they've only got few slots there. In german, ther are few tour slots available, > but alas they don't work for me (WGs). > > So i guess, the best bet is to figure out the time you're interested, probably > early in the day during the week when you've got no WGs, or late at night, and > then put it into the reservation system and then just visit the dome / ceiling and > maybe have lunch/dinner on the roof restaurant (somewhat expensive). And > you better reserve that as well ;-) > > Walking distance to the Reichstag: 36 minutes, public transport: 33 minutes > *grin*. > > Cheers > Toerless > > > On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: > > In order to visit the Reichstag you will need to register one month > > before you planned to visit. They do provide group registration so > > maybe it would be possible to register as a group but time has just about run > out. > > > > Regards, > > Hosnieh > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > > [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > > > On Behalf Of Scott Brim > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:05 PM > > > To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org > > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the > > Reichstag > > > building > > > > > > On 07/06/13 00:26, "Ross Finlayson" > > > allegedly > > > wrote: > > > > > > >The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to the > > > >public, but you have to register in advance online to visit it: > > > > http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html > > > > > > > >(Also, the dome is closed from July 22-26.) > > > > > > > > Ross. > > > > > > It looks like they are geared toward groups. Do you have a > > > scheduled > > time? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > 87attendees mailing list > > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From ietfdbh@comcast.net Sun Jul 7 12:33:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803A011E810A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 12:33:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.362 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.362 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.075, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TZXtAIFVMN0S for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 12:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe14:43:76:96:62:96]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D0611E8102 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 12:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xX3Y1l00427AodY59XZCqD; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 19:33:12 +0000 Received: from JV6RVH1 ([67.189.237.137]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xXZB1l0152yZEBF3fXZByk; Sun, 07 Jul 2013 19:33:12 +0000 From: "ietfdbh" To: "'Hosnieh Rafiee'" , "'Toerless Eckert'" References: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> <20130707185826.GX17405@cisco.com> <002301ce7b46$49ea44a0$ddbecde0$@rozanak.com> In-Reply-To: <002301ce7b46$49ea44a0$ddbecde0$@rozanak.com> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:32:43 -0400 Message-ID: <000001ce7b48$c0ae1920$420a4b60$@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQDFJvDfM1KYLiokfD9oqPsTJYaZAQLe1zNHAx05GEYBWpHE1wIDM9VHmyFzx4A= Content-Language: en-us DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1373225592; bh=HvAyoxtGKWSGftQL6Sr3VC985bQDH8YgNUzfnD7n3Go=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=l4nd2Or59dIA8ccXSLirR+2ZWVt6PhHIte3/1gaEnP8QJRX2Wj0tWaYJMD7vbt5+S rxWSN8WNAq7pBQ0RsnxQaQ0W9yhq9g+IVKKR9qEjTKzO6IK/bbYQiYvzVKxq7OJ2MI fqAiJyuKiWJvQzoVEA1b6ecVc6C5391B8PMU50PpV9EoyiOEfMw60o8mtjDkKK2PxA iktiVYUjZDAHcuhebLollrnA5JgtvFiBoi0J6GHntaAQ1VJffvU8ftd7S81OEl/JTM dlSDNwR3QvwAB4WbpRtOW48URs9T1tCHem/xv7Njbi40w/D9obDpukjXMzrUSNjTT7 IfQawA48dClSQ== Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, 'Scott Brim' , 'Ross Finlayson' Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 19:33:17 -0000 I would think that a group, such as an employer, might be able to speed things up because they probably already do background checks on their employees. The IETF does not do background checks on its participants, so I think it would be inappropriate to have the IETF organize a tour that might have such an implicit requirement. David Harrington ietfdbh@comcast.net +1-603-828-1401 > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hosnieh Rafiee > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 3:15 PM > To: 'Toerless Eckert' > Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson'; 'Scott Brim' > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag > building > > They do a background check of the people wanting to visit there so that is > why it takes so long. If you been there before the process is much faster. > Maybe it will be possible for the IETF organizer to apply as a group and speed > the process up. > > Hosnieh > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:eckert@cisco.com] > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:58 PM > > To: Hosnieh Rafiee > > Cc: 'Scott Brim'; 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson' > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the > Reichstag > > building > > > > Hmm... I couldn't see the 4-week pre-registration. Any URL ? The > > german > web > > page would let me put in requests for July and August. And supposedly, > > if > you > > can click it, it's available. I hours. Its just closed for cleaning > > Jul > 22-26. The > > politicians are also on vacation, so you can't see a parliamentary > session, but in > > return, there are also no blackout times for tours through the > > building > and they > > let 600 people into the dome and terrace at the same time. When it's > > in session, it's only 200 visitors (latest fire marshal rulings). > > > > You can even go to the building more than two hours in advance and get > > a > free > > slot. > > The question then is just whether there would be a free slot (probably > less so on > > a summer weekend). > > > > Tuesday at noon they've got a tourist lecture slot (45 min) in english > > in > the > > assembly hall (it's every hour during the week but otherwise just in > german). > > Not sure if they would do it at a different slot for a larger group. > > But > the > > booking system shows it as available on tuesday during IETF week in > english. > > > > The tours on the other hand in english seem to be booked out during > > the > week, > > they've only got few slots there. In german, ther are few tour slots > available, > > but alas they don't work for me (WGs). > > > > So i guess, the best bet is to figure out the time you're interested, > probably > > early in the day during the week when you've got no WGs, or late at > > night, > and > > then put it into the reservation system and then just visit the dome / > ceiling and > > maybe have lunch/dinner on the roof restaurant (somewhat expensive). > > And you better reserve that as well ;-) > > > > Walking distance to the Reichstag: 36 minutes, public transport: 33 > minutes > > *grin*. > > > > Cheers > > Toerless > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: > > > In order to visit the Reichstag you will need to register one month > > > before you planned to visit. They do provide group registration so > > > maybe it would be possible to register as a group but time has just > about run > > out. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Hosnieh > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > > > [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > > > > On Behalf Of Scott Brim > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:05 PM > > > > To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org > > > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of > > > > the > > > Reichstag > > > > building > > > > > > > > On 07/06/13 00:26, "Ross Finlayson" > > > > allegedly > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to > > > > >the public, but you have to register in advance online to visit it: > > > > > http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html > > > > > > > > > >(Also, the dome is closed from July 22-26.) > > > > > > > > > > Ross. > > > > > > > > It looks like they are geared toward groups. Do you have a > > > > scheduled > > > time? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > 87attendees mailing list > > > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > 87attendees mailing list > > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From eckert@cisco.com Sun Jul 7 13:20:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1610C11E8105 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:20:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Yl315+oxFAIu for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4425111E8100 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:19:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5796; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1373228398; x=1374437998; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=pNcs5ZpeR6gafUO0vspnUN6O6x6fFc/cf7+pm+VNHkg=; b=W32Wz/R7ch8+8DNtgADR2r/5wCvPEGOdD1OOc5NoUv34or2pd4Finv4e PO6SIDoM5I0Ua5yLRH1qCjchwsajo+C8RaSGKb4BiRFwy37Rr4p3CZcsW jDnY5I3usKPqR4c47nmznnYxkBVIYPSUtv6qPTfpE7N7RqeUYbyF5RL1Q E=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgIFAFzM2VGrRDoG/2dsb2JhbABXA4MJMsEqgQgWdIIjAQEBAQM6PwwECxEEAQEBCR4HDwUyCQ4TGodjAw4NrwkIiFaOHoE9EAcGC4J1aQOJJYpbg1IBkUiDMRw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,1015,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="85412533" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Jul 2013 20:19:56 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r67KJtjm005106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Jul 2013 20:19:55 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r67KJs7V021523; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:19:55 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r67KJssq021522; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:19:54 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:19:54 -0700 From: "'Toerless Eckert'" To: ietfdbh Message-ID: <20130707201954.GA17405@cisco.com> References: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> <20130707185826.GX17405@cisco.com> <002301ce7b46$49ea44a0$ddbecde0$@rozanak.com> <000001ce7b48$c0ae1920$420a4b60$@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001ce7b48$c0ae1920$420a4b60$@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, 'Ross Finlayson' , 'Scott Brim' , 'Hosnieh Rafiee' Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 20:20:03 -0000 Reading some web pages, it seems as if the checks where stronger after the terrorist attacks in 2010, but where relaxed again in 2012. If you can even register on the same day, i doubt there is a lot of background check. Sure, they might have a database of well known terrorists and hecklers, but i guess it's primarily to check your ID against reservations when you come in for your slot. And the whole reservation system is just AQM by scheduling. Especially given how there are no politicians around in summer, it' just another tourist attraction. Heck, they even let a guy throw a blue blanket over it in '95. Wish that would have stayed there ;-) Oh, there is also one of the german TV news magazines that always has the dome in the background, forgot what it's called, so if you time it right, you can get yourself onto german TV. At 50 pixels or so ;-)) On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 03:32:43PM -0400, ietfdbh wrote: > I would think that a group, such as an employer, might be able to speed > things up because they probably already do background checks on their > employees. > The IETF does not do background checks on its participants, so I think it > would be inappropriate to have the IETF organize a tour that might have such > an implicit requirement. > > David Harrington > ietfdbh@comcast.net > +1-603-828-1401 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hosnieh Rafiee > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 3:15 PM > > To: 'Toerless Eckert' > > Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson'; 'Scott Brim' > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the > Reichstag > > building > > > > They do a background check of the people wanting to visit there so that is > > why it takes so long. If you been there before the process is much faster. > > Maybe it will be possible for the IETF organizer to apply as a group and > speed > > the process up. > > > > Hosnieh > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:eckert@cisco.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:58 PM > > > To: Hosnieh Rafiee > > > Cc: 'Scott Brim'; 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson' > > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the > > Reichstag > > > building > > > > > > Hmm... I couldn't see the 4-week pre-registration. Any URL ? The > > > german > > web > > > page would let me put in requests for July and August. And supposedly, > > > if > > you > > > can click it, it's available. I hours. Its just closed for cleaning > > > Jul > > 22-26. The > > > politicians are also on vacation, so you can't see a parliamentary > > session, but in > > > return, there are also no blackout times for tours through the > > > building > > and they > > > let 600 people into the dome and terrace at the same time. When it's > > > in session, it's only 200 visitors (latest fire marshal rulings). > > > > > > You can even go to the building more than two hours in advance and get > > > a > > free > > > slot. > > > The question then is just whether there would be a free slot (probably > > less so on > > > a summer weekend). > > > > > > Tuesday at noon they've got a tourist lecture slot (45 min) in english > > > in > > the > > > assembly hall (it's every hour during the week but otherwise just in > > german). > > > Not sure if they would do it at a different slot for a larger group. > > > But > > the > > > booking system shows it as available on tuesday during IETF week in > > english. > > > > > > The tours on the other hand in english seem to be booked out during > > > the > > week, > > > they've only got few slots there. In german, ther are few tour slots > > available, > > > but alas they don't work for me (WGs). > > > > > > So i guess, the best bet is to figure out the time you're interested, > > probably > > > early in the day during the week when you've got no WGs, or late at > > > night, > > and > > > then put it into the reservation system and then just visit the dome / > > ceiling and > > > maybe have lunch/dinner on the roof restaurant (somewhat expensive). > > > And you better reserve that as well ;-) > > > > > > Walking distance to the Reichstag: 36 minutes, public transport: 33 > > minutes > > > *grin*. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Toerless > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: > > > > In order to visit the Reichstag you will need to register one month > > > > before you planned to visit. They do provide group registration so > > > > maybe it would be possible to register as a group but time has just > > about run > > > out. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Hosnieh > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > > > > [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > > > > > On Behalf Of Scott Brim > > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:05 PM > > > > > To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of > > > > > the > > > > Reichstag > > > > > building > > > > > > > > > > On 07/06/13 00:26, "Ross Finlayson" > > > > > allegedly > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to > > > > > >the public, but you have to register in advance online to visit it: > > > > > > http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html > > > > > > > > > > > >(Also, the dome is closed from July 22-26.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Ross. > > > > > > > > > > It looks like they are geared toward groups. Do you have a > > > > > scheduled > > > > time? From koo@comnets.uni-bremen.de Sun Jul 7 13:27:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8CD21F9F02 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:27:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7kT-XfM6nQah for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de (bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de [134.102.186.10]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96DC21F9C8B for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.234] (treviso [10.10.155.90]) by bugs.comnets.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4630CD42B41 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:27:39 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) From: Koojana Kuladinithi In-Reply-To: <000001ce7b48$c0ae1920$420a4b60$@comcast.net> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:27:35 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1E756F7F-C195-4AA2-8E94-9E9F2CD396A6@comnets.uni-bremen.de> References: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> <20130707185826.GX17405@cisco.com> <002301ce7b46$49ea44a0$ddbecde0$@rozanak.com> <000001ce7b48$c0ae1920$420a4b60$@comcast.net> To: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 20:27:45 -0000 This was not that difficult to go for the option of the "Visit to the = Dome". I just did a reservation 3 days ago. Check the following link. = https://visite.bundestag.de/BAPWeb/pages/createBookingRequest.jsf?lang=3De= n Once you request a time slot (you are asked to proposed 3 alternatives), = If your request can be processed, then they will send you en email to = enter the name and the birthday. That's all. You should try to visit = this place (specially in the evening), you would have a fantastic = panorama view of Berlin. Koojana =20 On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:32 PM, "ietfdbh" wrote: > I would think that a group, such as an employer, might be able to = speed > things up because they probably already do background checks on their > employees. > The IETF does not do background checks on its participants, so I think = it > would be inappropriate to have the IETF organize a tour that might = have such > an implicit requirement. >=20 > David Harrington > ietfdbh@comcast.net > +1-603-828-1401 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hosnieh Rafiee >> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 3:15 PM >> To: 'Toerless Eckert' >> Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson'; 'Scott Brim' >> Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the > Reichstag >> building >>=20 >> They do a background check of the people wanting to visit there so = that is >> why it takes so long. If you been there before the process is much = faster. >> Maybe it will be possible for the IETF organizer to apply as a group = and > speed >> the process up. >>=20 >> Hosnieh >>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:eckert@cisco.com] >>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:58 PM >>> To: Hosnieh Rafiee >>> Cc: 'Scott Brim'; 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson' >>> Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the >> Reichstag >>> building >>>=20 >>> Hmm... I couldn't see the 4-week pre-registration. Any URL ? The >>> german >> web >>> page would let me put in requests for July and August. And = supposedly, >>> if >> you >>> can click it, it's available. I hours. Its just closed for cleaning >>> Jul >> 22-26. The >>> politicians are also on vacation, so you can't see a parliamentary >> session, but in >>> return, there are also no blackout times for tours through the >>> building >> and they >>> let 600 people into the dome and terrace at the same time. When it's >>> in session, it's only 200 visitors (latest fire marshal rulings). >>>=20 >>> You can even go to the building more than two hours in advance and = get >>> a >> free >>> slot. >>> The question then is just whether there would be a free slot = (probably >> less so on >>> a summer weekend). >>>=20 >>> Tuesday at noon they've got a tourist lecture slot (45 min) in = english >>> in >> the >>> assembly hall (it's every hour during the week but otherwise just in >> german). >>> Not sure if they would do it at a different slot for a larger group. >>> But >> the >>> booking system shows it as available on tuesday during IETF week in >> english. >>>=20 >>> The tours on the other hand in english seem to be booked out during >>> the >> week, >>> they've only got few slots there. In german, ther are few tour slots >> available, >>> but alas they don't work for me (WGs). >>>=20 >>> So i guess, the best bet is to figure out the time you're = interested, >> probably >>> early in the day during the week when you've got no WGs, or late at >>> night, >> and >>> then put it into the reservation system and then just visit the dome = / >> ceiling and >>> maybe have lunch/dinner on the roof restaurant (somewhat expensive). >>> And you better reserve that as well ;-) >>>=20 >>> Walking distance to the Reichstag: 36 minutes, public transport: 33 >> minutes >>> *grin*. >>>=20 >>> Cheers >>> Toerless >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: >>>> In order to visit the Reichstag you will need to register one month >>>> before you planned to visit. They do provide group registration so >>>> maybe it would be possible to register as a group but time has just >> about run >>> out. >>>>=20 >>>> Regards, >>>> Hosnieh >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org >>>>> [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >>>>> On Behalf Of Scott Brim >>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:05 PM >>>>> To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of >>>>> the >>>> Reichstag >>>>> building >>>>>=20 >>>>> On 07/06/13 00:26, "Ross Finlayson" >>>>> allegedly >>>>> wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>>> The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to >>>>>> the public, but you have to register in advance online to visit = it: >>>>>> http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> (Also, the dome is closed from July 22-26.) >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Ross. >>>>>=20 >>>>> It looks like they are geared toward groups. Do you have a >>>>> scheduled >>>> time? >>>>>=20 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 87attendees mailing list >>>>> 87attendees@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 87attendees mailing list >>>> 87attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From eckert@cisco.com Sun Jul 7 14:24:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E74211E8122 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 14:24:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1WqOA29JVawo for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 14:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-1.cisco.com (mtv-iport-1.cisco.com [173.36.130.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB94411E811F for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 14:24:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=6781; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1373232249; x=1374441849; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=VEitKSDjQaXBceU3xuXzciwyC5KkVmdSnbUUe4YItps=; b=Mrt+9aFeNfvieWHxv1Qxud314LRXNB+vj9UcfUGsVr6T2L3xDheh4+BO Bvwk0A/bW9Y37O5R4sQDyTeqEG2pOXYfrmR+5B7dofOcgy1olOHoLM5MR yTP0dmTr4aOqkuq5afHzGggvlQ0RaViY3Uo/6+GTueRPaAFDNsh1fPGzt M=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgMFAB3b2VGrRDoG/2dsb2JhbABXA4MJMsEqgQgWdIIjAQEBAQMBAQE3NAsMBAsOAwEDAQEBCR4HDwUTHwMGDhOHfQMODa8WCIhWjimBMhAHBguCdWkDiSWKW4NSAZFIgzEcgTU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,1015,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="82395762" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 07 Jul 2013 21:24:08 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r67LO7Cl017205 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 7 Jul 2013 21:24:07 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r67LO7Sd024352; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 14:24:07 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r67LO6gB024351; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 14:24:06 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 14:24:06 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: Koojana Kuladinithi Message-ID: <20130707212406.GB17405@cisco.com> References: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> <20130707185826.GX17405@cisco.com> <002301ce7b46$49ea44a0$ddbecde0$@rozanak.com> <000001ce7b48$c0ae1920$420a4b60$@comcast.net> <1E756F7F-C195-4AA2-8E94-9E9F2CD396A6@comnets.uni-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1E756F7F-C195-4AA2-8E94-9E9F2CD396A6@comnets.uni-bremen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 21:24:14 -0000 If you're just out for a view, go to the rotating restaurant in the TV tower. Supposedly they still have the charme of the 50'th interior and communist era service ;-)) On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 10:27:35PM +0200, Koojana Kuladinithi wrote: > This was not that difficult to go for the option of the "Visit to the Dome". I just did a reservation 3 days ago. Check the following link. > > https://visite.bundestag.de/BAPWeb/pages/createBookingRequest.jsf?lang=en > > Once you request a time slot (you are asked to proposed 3 alternatives), If your request can be processed, then they will send you en email to enter the name and the birthday. That's all. You should try to visit this place (specially in the evening), you would have a fantastic panorama view of Berlin. > > > Koojana > > > > > > On Jul 7, 2013, at 9:32 PM, "ietfdbh" wrote: > > > I would think that a group, such as an employer, might be able to speed > > things up because they probably already do background checks on their > > employees. > > The IETF does not do background checks on its participants, so I think it > > would be inappropriate to have the IETF organize a tour that might have such > > an implicit requirement. > > > > David Harrington > > ietfdbh@comcast.net > > +1-603-828-1401 > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hosnieh Rafiee > >> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 3:15 PM > >> To: 'Toerless Eckert' > >> Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson'; 'Scott Brim' > >> Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the > > Reichstag > >> building > >> > >> They do a background check of the people wanting to visit there so that is > >> why it takes so long. If you been there before the process is much faster. > >> Maybe it will be possible for the IETF organizer to apply as a group and > > speed > >> the process up. > >> > >> Hosnieh > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:eckert@cisco.com] > >>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:58 PM > >>> To: Hosnieh Rafiee > >>> Cc: 'Scott Brim'; 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson' > >>> Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the > >> Reichstag > >>> building > >>> > >>> Hmm... I couldn't see the 4-week pre-registration. Any URL ? The > >>> german > >> web > >>> page would let me put in requests for July and August. And supposedly, > >>> if > >> you > >>> can click it, it's available. I hours. Its just closed for cleaning > >>> Jul > >> 22-26. The > >>> politicians are also on vacation, so you can't see a parliamentary > >> session, but in > >>> return, there are also no blackout times for tours through the > >>> building > >> and they > >>> let 600 people into the dome and terrace at the same time. When it's > >>> in session, it's only 200 visitors (latest fire marshal rulings). > >>> > >>> You can even go to the building more than two hours in advance and get > >>> a > >> free > >>> slot. > >>> The question then is just whether there would be a free slot (probably > >> less so on > >>> a summer weekend). > >>> > >>> Tuesday at noon they've got a tourist lecture slot (45 min) in english > >>> in > >> the > >>> assembly hall (it's every hour during the week but otherwise just in > >> german). > >>> Not sure if they would do it at a different slot for a larger group. > >>> But > >> the > >>> booking system shows it as available on tuesday during IETF week in > >> english. > >>> > >>> The tours on the other hand in english seem to be booked out during > >>> the > >> week, > >>> they've only got few slots there. In german, ther are few tour slots > >> available, > >>> but alas they don't work for me (WGs). > >>> > >>> So i guess, the best bet is to figure out the time you're interested, > >> probably > >>> early in the day during the week when you've got no WGs, or late at > >>> night, > >> and > >>> then put it into the reservation system and then just visit the dome / > >> ceiling and > >>> maybe have lunch/dinner on the roof restaurant (somewhat expensive). > >>> And you better reserve that as well ;-) > >>> > >>> Walking distance to the Reichstag: 36 minutes, public transport: 33 > >> minutes > >>> *grin*. > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> Toerless > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: > >>>> In order to visit the Reichstag you will need to register one month > >>>> before you planned to visit. They do provide group registration so > >>>> maybe it would be possible to register as a group but time has just > >> about run > >>> out. > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Hosnieh > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org > >>>>> [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > >>>>> On Behalf Of Scott Brim > >>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:05 PM > >>>>> To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org > >>>>> Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of > >>>>> the > >>>> Reichstag > >>>>> building > >>>>> > >>>>> On 07/06/13 00:26, "Ross Finlayson" > >>>>> allegedly > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to > >>>>>> the public, but you have to register in advance online to visit it: > >>>>>> http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (Also, the dome is closed from July 22-26.) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ross. > >>>>> > >>>>> It looks like they are geared toward groups. Do you have a > >>>>> scheduled > >>>> time? > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> 87attendees mailing list > >>>>> 87attendees@ietf.org > >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> 87attendees mailing list > >>>> 87attendees@ietf.org > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 87attendees mailing list > >> 87attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! From N.Leymann@telekom.de Mon Jul 8 01:15:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD8B621F9B1E for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 01:15:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.124 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.124 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.125, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q6ufdl1evEiH for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 01:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcmail43.telekom.de (tcmail43.telekom.de [80.149.113.173]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1D121F90DC for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 01:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from he113414.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.65.80]) by tcmail41.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 08 Jul 2013 10:13:35 +0200 Received: from HE100024.emea1.cds.t-internal.com (10.125.65.200) by HE113414.emea1.cds.t-internal.com (10.125.65.80) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.298.1; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:13:33 +0200 Received: from HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.90.96]) by HE100024.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([2002:769:410c::769:410c]) with mapi; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:13:32 +0200 From: To: , , Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:13:32 +0200 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building Thread-Index: AQDFJvDfM1KYLiokfD9oqPsTJYaZAQLe1zNHAx05GEYBWpHE1wIDM9VHmyFzx4CAANWcMA== Message-ID: <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD568997C@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> <20130707185826.GX17405@cisco.com> <002301ce7b46$49ea44a0$ddbecde0$@rozanak.com> <000001ce7b48$c0ae1920$420a4b60$@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <000001ce7b48$c0ae1920$420a4b60$@comcast.net> Accept-Language: de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, finlayson@live555.com, swb@internet2.edu Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 08:15:19 -0000 Hi, You can register at the same day, it's not necessary to do it months or wee= ks in advance. Regards Nic -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] Im = Auftrag von ietfdbh Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Juli 2013 21:33 An: 'Hosnieh Rafiee'; 'Toerless Eckert' Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Scott Brim'; 'Ross Finlayson' Betreff: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichs= tag building I would think that a group, such as an employer, might be able to speed things up because they probably already do background checks on their employees. The IETF does not do background checks on its participants, so I think it would be inappropriate to have the IETF organize a tour that might have suc= h an implicit requirement. David Harrington ietfdbh@comcast.net +1-603-828-1401 > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hosnieh Rafiee > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 3:15 PM > To: 'Toerless Eckert' > Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson'; 'Scott Brim' > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag > building > > They do a background check of the people wanting to visit there so that i= s > why it takes so long. If you been there before the process is much faster= . > Maybe it will be possible for the IETF organizer to apply as a group and speed > the process up. > > Hosnieh > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:eckert@cisco.com] > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:58 PM > > To: Hosnieh Rafiee > > Cc: 'Scott Brim'; 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson' > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the > Reichstag > > building > > > > Hmm... I couldn't see the 4-week pre-registration. Any URL ? The > > german > web > > page would let me put in requests for July and August. And supposedly, > > if > you > > can click it, it's available. I hours. Its just closed for cleaning > > Jul > 22-26. The > > politicians are also on vacation, so you can't see a parliamentary > session, but in > > return, there are also no blackout times for tours through the > > building > and they > > let 600 people into the dome and terrace at the same time. When it's > > in session, it's only 200 visitors (latest fire marshal rulings). > > > > You can even go to the building more than two hours in advance and get > > a > free > > slot. > > The question then is just whether there would be a free slot (probably > less so on > > a summer weekend). > > > > Tuesday at noon they've got a tourist lecture slot (45 min) in english > > in > the > > assembly hall (it's every hour during the week but otherwise just in > german). > > Not sure if they would do it at a different slot for a larger group. > > But > the > > booking system shows it as available on tuesday during IETF week in > english. > > > > The tours on the other hand in english seem to be booked out during > > the > week, > > they've only got few slots there. In german, ther are few tour slots > available, > > but alas they don't work for me (WGs). > > > > So i guess, the best bet is to figure out the time you're interested, > probably > > early in the day during the week when you've got no WGs, or late at > > night, > and > > then put it into the reservation system and then just visit the dome / > ceiling and > > maybe have lunch/dinner on the roof restaurant (somewhat expensive). > > And you better reserve that as well ;-) > > > > Walking distance to the Reichstag: 36 minutes, public transport: 33 > minutes > > *grin*. > > > > Cheers > > Toerless > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: > > > In order to visit the Reichstag you will need to register one month > > > before you planned to visit. They do provide group registration so > > > maybe it would be possible to register as a group but time has just > about run > > out. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Hosnieh > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > > > [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > > > > On Behalf Of Scott Brim > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:05 PM > > > > To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org > > > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of > > > > the > > > Reichstag > > > > building > > > > > > > > On 07/06/13 00:26, "Ross Finlayson" > > > > allegedly > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to > > > > >the public, but you have to register in advance online to visit it= : > > > > > http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html > > > > > > > > > >(Also, the dome is closed from July 22-26.) > > > > > > > > > > Ross. > > > > > > > > It looks like they are geared toward groups. Do you have a > > > > scheduled > > > time? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > 87attendees mailing list > > > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > 87attendees mailing list > > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From gueyemamekhoudia@gmail.com Mon Jul 8 06:15:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E6321F9130 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 06:15:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QfEy23YFaFT8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 06:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qc0-x232.google.com (mail-qc0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE21021F91B0 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 06:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c11so2258476qcv.9 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 06:15:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4XQ3LImYQeFskfFJQ4XkWiRUQg2modVLi8VmnlB9Cm4=; b=Y4wASqyu1gIE0mE7iqLFM3D1bxSBa9fN1I6AlogiG53MfR1cXnZkka6iY+kOf6/g5J 9ddZlIljRmo/sJ6xGGDYklp3fcFyj59UaeFCQSshCqQOTSKjmX12uk7obCrAfdnCQSSk UOl191R2qrlrJTHiKXOLRz3MnNDl27DZhr5MeWqS6H5zDZGumWxfqQLo4g+rU8636+Rg j4lfisw///z3jnT6unbQe57LgI5zHeJKTb5GqmgsPjfGEx41heVsU0fBSKTIDHv0tHia MAc7ZSVeznSkwoRWddor6vQ0qfJJXacqkQmtS30XNrvP3pdqSo9I9+Cmlu0Cuy9XAZDr VHKQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.123.68 with SMTP id o4mr18437988qar.106.1373289351038; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 06:15:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.40.130 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 06:15:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD568997C@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> <20130707185826.GX17405@cisco.com> <002301ce7b46$49ea44a0$ddbecde0$@rozanak.com> <000001ce7b48$c0ae1920$420a4b60$@comcast.net> <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD568997C@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:15:50 +0200 Message-ID: From: Mame Khoudia Gueye To: N.Leymann@telekom.de Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: eckert@cisco.com, swb@internet2.edu, finlayson@live555.com, ietf@rozanak.com, 87attendees@ietf.org, ietfdbh@comcast.net Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:15:53 -0000 Hi, Thank you for the information on the dome but unfortunately I could not attend because my arrival is scheduled July 27 date at which the dome will close. Thank you very much and best regards. Mame Khoudia Gueye 2013/7/8, N.Leymann@telekom.de : > Hi, > > You can register at the same day, it's not necessary to do it months or > weeks in advance. > > Regards > > Nic > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] I= m > Auftrag von ietfdbh > Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Juli 2013 21:33 > An: 'Hosnieh Rafiee'; 'Toerless Eckert' > Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Scott Brim'; 'Ross Finlayson' > Betreff: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the > Reichstag building > > I would think that a group, such as an employer, might be able to speed > things up because they probably already do background checks on their > employees. > The IETF does not do background checks on its participants, so I think it > would be inappropriate to have the IETF organize a tour that might have > such > an implicit requirement. > > David Harrington > ietfdbh@comcast.net > +1-603-828-1401 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hosnieh Rafiee >> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 3:15 PM >> To: 'Toerless Eckert' >> Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson'; 'Scott Brim' >> Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the > Reichstag >> building >> >> They do a background check of the people wanting to visit there so that >> is >> why it takes so long. If you been there before the process is much >> faster. >> Maybe it will be possible for the IETF organizer to apply as a group and > speed >> the process up. >> >> Hosnieh >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:eckert@cisco.com] >> > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:58 PM >> > To: Hosnieh Rafiee >> > Cc: 'Scott Brim'; 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson' >> > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the >> Reichstag >> > building >> > >> > Hmm... I couldn't see the 4-week pre-registration. Any URL ? The >> > german >> web >> > page would let me put in requests for July and August. And supposedly, >> > if >> you >> > can click it, it's available. I hours. Its just closed for cleaning >> > Jul >> 22-26. The >> > politicians are also on vacation, so you can't see a parliamentary >> session, but in >> > return, there are also no blackout times for tours through the >> > building >> and they >> > let 600 people into the dome and terrace at the same time. When it's >> > in session, it's only 200 visitors (latest fire marshal rulings). >> > >> > You can even go to the building more than two hours in advance and get >> > a >> free >> > slot. >> > The question then is just whether there would be a free slot (probably >> less so on >> > a summer weekend). >> > >> > Tuesday at noon they've got a tourist lecture slot (45 min) in english >> > in >> the >> > assembly hall (it's every hour during the week but otherwise just in >> german). >> > Not sure if they would do it at a different slot for a larger group. >> > But >> the >> > booking system shows it as available on tuesday during IETF week in >> english. >> > >> > The tours on the other hand in english seem to be booked out during >> > the >> week, >> > they've only got few slots there. In german, ther are few tour slots >> available, >> > but alas they don't work for me (WGs). >> > >> > So i guess, the best bet is to figure out the time you're interested, >> probably >> > early in the day during the week when you've got no WGs, or late at >> > night, >> and >> > then put it into the reservation system and then just visit the dome / >> ceiling and >> > maybe have lunch/dinner on the roof restaurant (somewhat expensive). >> > And you better reserve that as well ;-) >> > >> > Walking distance to the Reichstag: 36 minutes, public transport: 33 >> minutes >> > *grin*. >> > >> > Cheers >> > Toerless >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: >> > > In order to visit the Reichstag you will need to register one month >> > > before you planned to visit. They do provide group registration so >> > > maybe it would be possible to register as a group but time has just >> about run >> > out. >> > > >> > > Regards, >> > > Hosnieh >> > > >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org >> > > > [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >> > > > On Behalf Of Scott Brim >> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:05 PM >> > > > To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org >> > > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of >> > > > the >> > > Reichstag >> > > > building >> > > > >> > > > On 07/06/13 00:26, "Ross Finlayson" >> > > > allegedly >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to >> > > > >the public, but you have to register in advance online to visit >> > > > > it: >> > > > > http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html >> > > > > >> > > > >(Also, the dome is closed from July 22-26.) >> > > > > >> > > > > Ross. >> > > > >> > > > It looks like they are geared toward groups. Do you have a >> > > > scheduled >> > > time? >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > 87attendees mailing list >> > > > 87attendees@ietf.org >> > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > 87attendees mailing list >> > > 87attendees@ietf.org >> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > From sperdomo@dtcc.com Mon Jul 8 07:16:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A404021F9AE6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:16:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id o2AsZQl8r6v2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sxinet05.dtcc.com (sxinet05.dtcc.com [207.45.45.43]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8049D21F9AE2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 07:16:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Perdomo, Sigfrido E." To: Mame Khoudia Gueye , "N.Leymann@telekom.de" Thread-Topic: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building Thread-Index: AQHOe91OT+pC2mFX7Ea00LOGRyBj0Jla05Dw Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:16:00 +0000 Message-ID: <1ECC4CDA2258BE4B9E520493EA3535BE78CD76FF@SXEMBP01.corp.dtcc.com> References: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> <20130707185826.GX17405@cisco.com> <002301ce7b46$49ea44a0$ddbecde0$@rozanak.com> <000001ce7b48$c0ae1920$420a4b60$@comcast.net> <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD568997C@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.18.113.13] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cc: "eckert@cisco.com" , "swb@internet2.edu" , "finlayson@live555.com" , "ietf@rozanak.com" , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, "ietfdbh@comcast.net" Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:16:36 -0000 HI,=0D=0A=0D=0AI have a question=2E=2E=2EI've tried to get an answer but to= no avail=2E I'm coming in with a friend=2E When I registered there was a= $25 for something like events but wasn't sure if was for me or for a frien= d, nor what it was exactly=2E Can anyone shed light on this?=0D=0A=0D=0A= =0D=0AThanks in advance=2E=0D=0A=0D=0ASig=0D=0A=0D=0A-----Original Message-= ----=0D=0AFrom: 87attendees-bounces@ietf=2Eorg [mailto:87attendees-bounces@= ietf=2Eorg] On Behalf Of Mame Khoudia Gueye=0D=0ASent: Monday, July 08, 201= 3 8:16 AM=0D=0ATo: N=2ELeymann@telekom=2Ede=0D=0ACc: eckert@cisco=2Ecom; sw= b@internet2=2Eedu; finlayson@live555=2Ecom; ietf@rozanak=2Ecom; 87attendees= @ietf=2Eorg; ietfdbh@comcast=2Enet=0D=0ASubject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Reg= istering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building=0D=0A=0D=0AHi,=0D=0ATh= ank you for the information on the dome but unfortunately I could not atten= d because my arrival is scheduled July 27 date at which the dome will close= =2E Thank you very much and best regards=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AMame Khoudia Gueye= =0D=0A=0D=0A2013/7/8, N=2ELeymann@telekom=2Ede := =0D=0A> Hi,=0D=0A>=0D=0A> You can register at the same day, it's not necess= ary to do it months =0D=0A> or weeks in advance=2E=0D=0A>=0D=0A> Regards= =0D=0A>=0D=0A> Nic=0D=0A>=0D=0A> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----=0D= =0A> Von: 87attendees-bounces@ietf=2Eorg =0D=0A> [mailto:87attendees-bounce= s@ietf=2Eorg] Im Auftrag von ietfdbh=0D=0A> Gesendet: Sonntag, 7=2E Juli 20= 13 21:33=0D=0A> An: 'Hosnieh Rafiee'; 'Toerless Eckert'=0D=0A> Cc: 87attend= ees@ietf=2Eorg; 'Scott Brim'; 'Ross Finlayson'=0D=0A> Betreff: Re: [87atten= dees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the =0D=0A> Reichstag building= =0D=0A>=0D=0A> I would think that a group, such as an employer, might be ab= le to =0D=0A> speed things up because they probably already do background c= hecks on =0D=0A> their employees=2E=0D=0A> The IETF does not do background = checks on its participants, so I think =0D=0A> it would be inappropriate to= have the IETF organize a tour that might =0D=0A> have such an implicit req= uirement=2E=0D=0A>=0D=0A> David Harrington=0D=0A> ietfdbh@comcast=2Enet=0D= =0A> +1-603-828-1401=0D=0A>> -----Original Message-----=0D=0A>> From: 87att= endees-bounces@ietf=2Eorg [mailto:87attendees- =0D=0A>> bounces@ietf=2Eorg]= On Behalf Of Hosnieh Rafiee=0D=0A>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 3:15 PM=0D= =0A>> To: 'Toerless Eckert'=0D=0A>> Cc: 87attendees@ietf=2Eorg; 'Ross Finla= yson'; 'Scott Brim'=0D=0A>> Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to = visit the dome of the=0D=0A> Reichstag=0D=0A>> building=0D=0A>>=0D=0A>> The= y do a background check of the people wanting to visit there so =0D=0A>> th= at is why it takes so long=2E If you been there before the process is =0D= =0A>> much faster=2E=0D=0A>> Maybe it will be possible for the IETF organiz= er to apply as a group =0D=0A>> and=0D=0A> speed=0D=0A>> the process up=2E= =0D=0A>>=0D=0A>> Hosnieh=0D=0A>>=0D=0A>> > -----Original Message-----=0D=0A= >> > From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:eckert@cisco=2Ecom]=0D=0A>> > Sent: Sund= ay, July 07, 2013 8:58 PM=0D=0A>> > To: Hosnieh Rafiee=0D=0A>> > Cc: 'Scott= Brim'; 87attendees@ietf=2Eorg; 'Ross Finlayson'=0D=0A>> > Subject: Re: [87= attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of =0D=0A>> > the=0D=0A>> Rei= chstag=0D=0A>> > building=0D=0A>> >=0D=0A>> > Hmm=2E=2E=2E I couldn't see t= he 4-week pre-registration=2E Any URL ? The =0D=0A>> > german=0D=0A>> web= =0D=0A>> > page would let me put in requests for July and August=2E And =0D= =0A>> > supposedly, if=0D=0A>> you=0D=0A>> > can click it, it's available= =2E I hours=2E Its just closed for cleaning =0D=0A>> > Jul=0D=0A>> 22-26=2E= The=0D=0A>> > politicians are also on vacation, so you can't see a parlia= mentary=0D=0A>> session, but in=0D=0A>> > return, there are also no blackou= t times for tours through the =0D=0A>> > building=0D=0A>> and they=0D=0A>> = > let 600 people into the dome and terrace at the same time=2E When =0D=0A>= > > it's in session, it's only 200 visitors (latest fire marshal rulings)= =2E=0D=0A>> >=0D=0A>> > You can even go to the building more than two hours= in advance and =0D=0A>> > get a=0D=0A>> free=0D=0A>> > slot=2E=0D=0A>> > T= he question then is just whether there would be a free slot =0D=0A>> > (pro= bably=0D=0A>> less so on=0D=0A>> > a summer weekend)=2E=0D=0A>> >=0D=0A>> >= Tuesday at noon they've got a tourist lecture slot (45 min) in =0D=0A>> > = english in=0D=0A>> the=0D=0A>> > assembly hall (it's every hour during the = week but otherwise just =0D=0A>> > in=0D=0A>> german)=2E=0D=0A>> > Not sure= if they would do it at a different slot for a larger group=2E=0D=0A>> > Bu= t=0D=0A>> the=0D=0A>> > booking system shows it as available on tuesday dur= ing IETF week in=0D=0A>> english=2E=0D=0A>> >=0D=0A>> > The tours on the ot= her hand in english seem to be booked out during =0D=0A>> > the=0D=0A>> wee= k,=0D=0A>> > they've only got few slots there=2E In german, ther are few to= ur =0D=0A>> > slots=0D=0A>> available,=0D=0A>> > but alas they don't work f= or me (WGs)=2E=0D=0A>> >=0D=0A>> > So i guess, the best bet is to figure ou= t the time you're =0D=0A>> > interested,=0D=0A>> probably=0D=0A>> > early i= n the day during the week when you've got no WGs, or late at =0D=0A>> > nig= ht,=0D=0A>> and=0D=0A>> > then put it into the reservation system and then = just visit the =0D=0A>> > dome /=0D=0A>> ceiling and=0D=0A>> > maybe have l= unch/dinner on the roof restaurant (somewhat expensive)=2E=0D=0A>> > And yo= u better reserve that as well ;-)=0D=0A>> >=0D=0A>> > Walking distance to t= he Reichstag: 36 minutes, public transport: 33=0D=0A>> minutes=0D=0A>> > *g= rin*=2E=0D=0A>> >=0D=0A>> > Cheers=0D=0A>> > Toerless=0D=0A>> >=0D=0A>>= >=0D=0A>> > On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote= :=0D=0A>> > > In order to visit the Reichstag you will need to register one= =0D=0A>> > > month before you planned to visit=2E They do provide group = =0D=0A>> > > registration so maybe it would be possible to register as a gr= oup =0D=0A>> > > but time has just=0D=0A>> about run=0D=0A>> > out=2E=0D=0A= >> > >=0D=0A>> > > Regards,=0D=0A>> > > Hosnieh=0D=0A>> > >=0D=0A>> > >=0D= =0A>> > > > -----Original Message-----=0D=0A>> > > > From: 87attendees-boun= ces@ietf=2Eorg =0D=0A>> > > > [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf=2Eorg]=0D=0A= >> > > > On Behalf Of Scott Brim=0D=0A>> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 = 6:05 PM=0D=0A>> > > > To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf=2Eorg=0D=0A>> > = > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome =0D=0A>> = > > > of the=0D=0A>> > > Reichstag=0D=0A>> > > > building=0D=0A>> > > >=0D= =0A>> > > > On 07/06/13 00:26, "Ross Finlayson" = =0D=0A>> > > > allegedly=0D=0A>> > > > wrote:=0D=0A>> > > >=0D=0A>> > > > >= The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to =0D=0A>> > >= > >the public, but you have to register in advance online to =0D=0A>> > > = > >visit=0D=0A>> > > > > it:=0D=0A>> > > > > http://www=2Ebundestag= =2Ede/htdocs_e/visits/kupp=2Ehtml=0D=0A>> > > > >=0D=0A>> > > > >(Also, the= dome is closed from July 22-26=2E)=0D=0A>> > > > >=0D=0A>> > > > > R= oss=2E=0D=0A>> > > >=0D=0A>> > > > It looks like they are geared toward gro= ups=2E Do you have a =0D=0A>> > > > scheduled=0D=0A>> > > time?=0D=0A>> > = > >=0D=0A>> > > > _______________________________________________=0D=0A>> >= > > 87attendees mailing list=0D=0A>> > > > 87attendees@ietf=2Eorg=0D=0A>> = > > > https://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/87attendees=0D=0A>> > >=0D= =0A>> > > _______________________________________________=0D=0A>> > > 87att= endees mailing list=0D=0A>> > > 87attendees@ietf=2Eorg=0D=0A>> > > https://= www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/87attendees=0D=0A>>=0D=0A>> _____________= __________________________________=0D=0A>> 87attendees mailing list=0D=0A>>= 87attendees@ietf=2Eorg=0D=0A>> https://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/8= 7attendees=0D=0A>=0D=0A> _______________________________________________=0D= =0A> 87attendees mailing list=0D=0A> 87attendees@ietf=2Eorg=0D=0A> https://= www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/87attendees=0D=0A> ______________________= _________________________=0D=0A> 87attendees mailing list=0D=0A> 87attendee= s@ietf=2Eorg=0D=0A> https://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/87attendees= =0D=0A>=0D=0A_______________________________________________=0D=0A87attende= es mailing list=0D=0A87attendees@ietf=2Eorg=0D=0Ahttps://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/m= ailman/listinfo/87attendees=0D=0A
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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 14:47:30 -0000 "Improving Internet Experience: All together, now." This is the title of the Internet Society briefing panel scheduled for IETF= 87 in Berlin on Tuesday, 30 July, 11:45am to 12:45pm. Below is more infor= mation on the topic and registration for those of you interested in attendi= ng. As Internet use and user expectations grow, it is natural that network and = service providers, as well as software developers, are all looking to provi= de the best experience possible for their users and customers. However, pe= rformance issues (especially those related to transient congestion) tend to= have collateral effects. This is a case where local optimization strategi= es may, in fact, not lead to globally optimal network performance for a giv= en activity. In fact, server or client software developers' assumptions ab= out network conditions may lead to disastrously wrong choices in managing n= etwork traffic if software elsewhere in the network is making different and= countervailing assumptions and choices. =20 This panel will explore some of the different approaches being developed, b= etween website, network transport and server developers, their assumptions = about network performance and potential collision of strategies. Panelists= will also further elaborate existing work in measuring and developing (and= deploying!) standards-based transport layer strategies for robustly improv= ing overall performance. =20 Key questions: As diversity of some key pieces of the stack, for example TCP algorithms, o= n the Internet grows, how does this impact reliability and the delivery of = consistent performance outcomes for the end user application? =20 What are the pressures of working with constrained devices and the protocol= adaptations and revisions that are being developed for the 'Internet of Th= ings' teaching us about improving performance for the Internet in general? =20 Given the challenges of modeling or simulating the complexity of the Intern= et, how can we robustly develop and deploy new mechanisms to improve perfor= mance and improve end-user experience? =20 Moderator: Leslie Daigle, Internet Society Information on panelists is posted at: https://www.internetsociety.org/internet-society-briefing-panel-ietf-87 Due to high demand for limited seating at Internet Society panel events, we= are providing you with advance information on registration. Online registr= ation will open in two time blocks to account for the broad range of home t= imezones of IETF participants. Half of the available seats will open for r= egistration at 09:00 UTC on Wednesday, 10 July. The other half will be made= available at 21:00 UTC. Look for a registration form link at the webpage a= bove at these times. For those unable to attend, we plan to provide a live (and archived) audioc= ast, information on which will also be available at the above webpage. Information and audio archives for past Internet Society panels can be foun= d online at: http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/internet-technology-matters/open-= internet-standards/briefing-panels Kevin Craemer Senior Events Manager Internet Society craemer@isoc.org From joelja@gmail.com Mon Jul 8 10:33:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8BB21F9D83 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:33:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hp7BP6Lj5qKE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-x234.google.com (mail-pa0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6D521F9D80 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id kq13so4581187pab.25 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:32:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eSzyE38r267/fNnFPguNqiKHu6TjUxZuc2qg1x/abLA=; b=uxz2Ge5Y8MxsU5pP9aR7wSY7kOzYF2Dly9EcUfN2w8ntTGlWI2Hzbx1lTGc20eaOuZ dkuyaORlRKp2E+pijWmHoKaa7W/Wd0Vq4SC4DpJOOhoXYX9vDowWa1aVke645r/1o74r wVVFLf3vUWBtRAkZVKHadgiRAh/8CtG2b01CdnLTD5xMsEHuyj4upkKoxMDIDrjjXWG2 xBaXXKgjt60v4kRjBA20Gph9aEb3kwtUMj0BEh6s6NBIo9PIwnA80Tr79oRXs3mrB0IX N9lbTyo7ksZEbobP01K1GN+T0aw4Iww47rgat+8hwqLr541DepaxeKxC3lebd+XsAkld EqMw== X-Received: by 10.68.251.234 with SMTP id zn10mr22028178pbc.188.1373304779595; Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joels-MacBook-Air.local (c-71-193-176-225.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [71.193.176.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kc8sm23559308pbc.18.2013.07.08.10.32.57 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51DAF7C8.10906@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:32:56 -0700 From: joel jaeggli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/22.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Perdomo, Sigfrido E." , Mame Khoudia Gueye , "N.Leymann@telekom.de" References: <15E004D4-D2A4-49A5-92F3-7C691360D2BF@live555.com> <000f01ce7b39$6b79f4b0$426dde10$@rozanak.com> <20130707185826.GX17405@cisco.com> <002301ce7b46$49ea44a0$ddbecde0$@rozanak.com> <000001ce7b48$c0ae1920$420a4b60$@comcast.net> <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD568997C@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> <1ECC4CDA2258BE4B9E520493EA3535BE78CD76FF@SXEMBP01.corp.dtcc.com> In-Reply-To: <1ECC4CDA2258BE4B9E520493EA3535BE78CD76FF@SXEMBP01.corp.dtcc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "eckert@cisco.com" , "swb@internet2.edu" , "finlayson@live555.com" , "ietf@rozanak.com" , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, "ietfdbh@comcast.net" Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 17:33:01 -0000 On 7/8/13 7:16 AM, Perdomo, Sigfrido E. wrote: > HI, > > I have a question...I've tried to get an answer but to no avail. I'm coming in with a friend. When I registered there was a $25 for something like events but wasn't sure if was for me or for a friend, nor what it was exactly. Can anyone shed light on this? on the registration site COMPANION REGISTRATION Traveling with a friend or family member 18 or older? Register them for the IETF companion program for only $25. Benefits include: A special welcome reception for companions from 1630-1730 on Sunday, July 28, 2013. Ability to attend the official Welcome Reception from 1700-1900 on Sunday, July 28, 2013. Participation in a separate companion email list if you choose to help communicate and make plans with other IETF Companions. A distinctive meeting badge that grants access to the venue (not to be used to attend working sessions). >> > Thanks in advance. > > Sig > > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mame Khoudia Gueye > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:16 AM > To: N.Leymann@telekom.de > Cc: eckert@cisco.com; swb@internet2.edu; finlayson@live555.com; ietf@rozanak.com; 87attendees@ietf.org; ietfdbh@comcast.net > Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the Reichstag building > > Hi, > Thank you for the information on the dome but unfortunately I could not attend because my arrival is scheduled July 27 date at which the dome will close. Thank you very much and best regards. > > Mame Khoudia Gueye > > 2013/7/8, N.Leymann@telekom.de : >> Hi, >> >> You can register at the same day, it's not necessary to do it months >> or weeks in advance. >> >> Regards >> >> Nic >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org >> [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von ietfdbh >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Juli 2013 21:33 >> An: 'Hosnieh Rafiee'; 'Toerless Eckert' >> Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Scott Brim'; 'Ross Finlayson' >> Betreff: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the >> Reichstag building >> >> I would think that a group, such as an employer, might be able to >> speed things up because they probably already do background checks on >> their employees. >> The IETF does not do background checks on its participants, so I think >> it would be inappropriate to have the IETF organize a tour that might >> have such an implicit requirement. >> >> David Harrington >> ietfdbh@comcast.net >> +1-603-828-1401 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- >>> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Hosnieh Rafiee >>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 3:15 PM >>> To: 'Toerless Eckert' >>> Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson'; 'Scott Brim' >>> Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of the >> Reichstag >>> building >>> >>> They do a background check of the people wanting to visit there so >>> that is why it takes so long. If you been there before the process is >>> much faster. >>> Maybe it will be possible for the IETF organizer to apply as a group >>> and >> speed >>> the process up. >>> >>> Hosnieh >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:eckert@cisco.com] >>>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 8:58 PM >>>> To: Hosnieh Rafiee >>>> Cc: 'Scott Brim'; 87attendees@ietf.org; 'Ross Finlayson' >>>> Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome of >>>> the >>> Reichstag >>>> building >>>> >>>> Hmm... I couldn't see the 4-week pre-registration. Any URL ? The >>>> german >>> web >>>> page would let me put in requests for July and August. And >>>> supposedly, if >>> you >>>> can click it, it's available. I hours. Its just closed for cleaning >>>> Jul >>> 22-26. The >>>> politicians are also on vacation, so you can't see a parliamentary >>> session, but in >>>> return, there are also no blackout times for tours through the >>>> building >>> and they >>>> let 600 people into the dome and terrace at the same time. When >>>> it's in session, it's only 200 visitors (latest fire marshal rulings). >>>> >>>> You can even go to the building more than two hours in advance and >>>> get a >>> free >>>> slot. >>>> The question then is just whether there would be a free slot >>>> (probably >>> less so on >>>> a summer weekend). >>>> >>>> Tuesday at noon they've got a tourist lecture slot (45 min) in >>>> english in >>> the >>>> assembly hall (it's every hour during the week but otherwise just >>>> in >>> german). >>>> Not sure if they would do it at a different slot for a larger group. >>>> But >>> the >>>> booking system shows it as available on tuesday during IETF week in >>> english. >>>> >>>> The tours on the other hand in english seem to be booked out during >>>> the >>> week, >>>> they've only got few slots there. In german, ther are few tour >>>> slots >>> available, >>>> but alas they don't work for me (WGs). >>>> >>>> So i guess, the best bet is to figure out the time you're >>>> interested, >>> probably >>>> early in the day during the week when you've got no WGs, or late at >>>> night, >>> and >>>> then put it into the reservation system and then just visit the >>>> dome / >>> ceiling and >>>> maybe have lunch/dinner on the roof restaurant (somewhat expensive). >>>> And you better reserve that as well ;-) >>>> >>>> Walking distance to the Reichstag: 36 minutes, public transport: 33 >>> minutes >>>> *grin*. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Toerless >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 07:42:30PM +0200, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote: >>>>> In order to visit the Reichstag you will need to register one >>>>> month before you planned to visit. They do provide group >>>>> registration so maybe it would be possible to register as a group >>>>> but time has just >>> about run >>>> out. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Hosnieh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org >>>>>> [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Scott Brim >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 6:05 PM >>>>>> To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [87attendees] FYI: Registering to visit the dome >>>>>> of the >>>>> Reichstag >>>>>> building >>>>>> >>>>>> On 07/06/13 00:26, "Ross Finlayson" >>>>>> allegedly >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The dome of the famous Reichstag building in Berlin is open to >>>>>>> the public, but you have to register in advance online to >>>>>>> visit >>>>>>> it: >>>>>>> http://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (Also, the dome is closed from July 22-26.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ross. >>>>>> >>>>>> It looks like they are geared toward groups. Do you have a >>>>>> scheduled >>>>> time? >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 87attendees mailing list >>>>>> 87attendees@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 87attendees mailing list >>>>> 87attendees@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 87attendees mailing list >>> 87attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >
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The company > accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted > by this email. > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > From eckert@cisco.com Mon Jul 8 10:51:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14A621F9D8C for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:51:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.593 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.593 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.006, BAYES_00=-2.599, FAKE_REPLY_C=2.012, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9vpVPiCX6AJA for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF88521F9C4E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:51:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1342; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1373305892; x=1374515492; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mime-version; bh=0KbN1fu4lRm3rRGkSt/5sCpDgn64FccL611dkQOZg2w=; b=CG4oYQdiGhPOuT/Xv/YsR7Qrz409FVLpVmA22REAWTRy/Flxkz4F/pkP IhA619NaK5MHVJZA3VEmhAynMMw5CY47uM/V6KMWIkhJ4uZ9xSzOmJ3W+ sjXzHQn3bhAPJz/b2c+5Sb0G/G16d33dHI3eW79gmzYqlFViwufPQDFNw c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAKL72lGrRDoH/2dsb2JhbABagwkywk4WdIJkWiE0BUmIIQ2ZEJhghzgEjikKhS8DiSWOLQGRSIMxHIEsCRc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.87,1021,1363132800"; d="scan'208";a="82961790" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 08 Jul 2013 17:51:27 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r68Hp0ht016084 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:51:00 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r68Hoxvm019456 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:50:59 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r68HoxoD019455 for 87attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:50:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:50:59 -0700 From: "eckert@cisco.com" To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: <20130708175059.GT17405@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building ? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Jul 2013 17:51:36 -0000 a) If you want to visit the dome, the prior mails should have been clear: Just register with name/birthdate on their web-page. Show up 15 minutes before target slot at the building, bring ID. Dome visit is about 20 minutes, at least that's how long the audio-guide is. https://visite.bundestag.de/BAPWeb/pages/createBookingRequest.jsf?lang=en b) There is no available guided tour through the building proper available in english (the regular one on tue noon is booked), but i asked in email, and if we send them a request with the list of names/birthdates, they would evaluate whether they could offer us a tour. The tours are about 90 min. YOu can visit the dome afterwards. So, if you are interested to get a guided tour, send me an email and indicate which of the two slots you would be interested in: Sun 15:30 (3:30 PM), Thur 18:30 (6:30 PM). (Those are official times, i can ask them if the thursday one could be made later, eg: 19:30 which gives enough time to get to the building after thursdays last seesion - not sure if they'd do that late slot though). If i have more than 10 names interested in any slot, i will ask for full name/birthdates and send off the request to them. Groups may be limited to 30 (not sure). Cheers Toerless From peter@denic.de Tue Jul 9 00:44:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA4121F9C12 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 00:44:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1hAZGgGOj8NN for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 00:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (office.denic.de [IPv6:2a02:568:122:16:1::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D14821F9F86 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 00:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de (x28.fra2.if.denic.de [10.122.64.17]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1UwSbL-0002Ry-3C; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:44:43 +0200 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1UwSbK-00051i-Vg; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:44:43 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:44:42 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: 87attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20130709074442.GN17456@x28.adm.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: Peter Koch Subject: [87attendees] water, trains, and bridges X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 07:44:54 -0000 Warning: the following text contains and combines the words 'train', 'travel', and 'IETF'. Reader discretion is advised. For those of you traveling to the Berlin IETF on a train from west of the Elbe river (e.g., from Frankfurt, Köln/Cologne, Düsseldorf, or Hannover) please note that the infrastructure is still suffering from the floods of early June. Continuing damage assessment for tracks and railway control centers (signaling infrastructure) is forcing trains on a detour, incurring delays of 60 to 90 minutes. Deutsche Bahn has been taking this into account for the online journey planner and booking system with an interim schedule through 19 July. It was just communicated in the press, alas not yet on DB's website, that the return to normal schedule will not happen before 28 July. I'll share pointers to official updates asap. -Peter (just another train traveler, literally) From jsaldana@unizar.es Tue Jul 9 02:46:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBACF21F9F87 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 02:46:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.354 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.354 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.615, BAYES_20=-0.74, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DuGCh0EZecM2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 02:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huecha.unizar.es (huecha.unizar.es [155.210.1.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F1F21F9F78 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 02:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usuarioPC (gtc1pc12.cps.unizar.es [155.210.158.17]) by huecha.unizar.es (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id r699kEQb002639 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:46:14 +0200 From: "Jose Saldana" To: <87attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:46:15 +0200 Organization: Universidad de Zaragoza Message-ID: <008501ce7c89$27c70040$775500c0$@unizar.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0086_01CE7C99.EB4FD040" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac58iSdxzvveAKOkSla8jO4lWHNHJQ== Content-Language: es X-Mail-Scanned: Criba 2.0 + Clamd & Bogofilter Subject: [87attendees] Agenda of the Online Games Traffic Tutorial X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: jsaldana@unizar.es List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:46:23 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01CE7C99.EB4FD040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Some people asked me about the place and time of the Online Games Traffic Tutorial at IETF Berlin. It will be included in the Transport Area Open Meeting, on Thursday Morning. THURSDAY, August 1, 2013, 10:35 AM, Potsdam 3 room, https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/87/agenda/tsvarea/ The session is about the traffic generated by online games. You can see a "promotional video" here: http://youtu.be/_G96ULX7Iak (if you cannot watch the video here, see the links below) Some questions we would try to answer: - How is the traffic generated by online games? - What protocols do they use? - What is the average packet size of the traffic of that games? - How many people play online games in the World? - What is the effect of delay and packet loss on online games? - Is it possible to beat your son on the Playstation? How? (well, this is a very difficult question.) During the session we will not only talk, but we will also play some games (one belonging to each of the main game genres), in order to capture the traffic and to show the effect of delay and packet loss on the playability. It will also be possible for some of the attendants to run an online car race with us during the session (we need 6 or 7 volunteers). The session will last 1 hour. The exact day will be announced soon. Jose Saldana University of Zaragoza. PS: If you cannot see the video on the link, you can download it from here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.mp4 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.wmv https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_320x240_iphone.m p4 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.mov https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_lowres.wmv https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_med_res.mp4 ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01CE7C99.EB4FD040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

Some people asked me about the place and time of the = Online Games Traffic Tutorial at IETF = Berlin.

 

It will be included in the Transport Area Open Meeting, on = Thursday Morning.

 

THURSDAY, August 1, 2013, 10:35 AM, Potsdam 3 room, = https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/87/agenda/tsvarea/

 

The session is about the traffic = generated by online games. You can see a “promotional = video” here:

 

http://youtu.= be/_G96ULX7Iak (if you cannot watch the = video here, see the links below)

 

Some questions we would try to = answer:

 

- How is the traffic generated by online = games?
- What protocols do they = use?
- What is the average packet size of the traffic of that = games?

- How many people play online games in the = World?

- = What is the effect of delay and packet loss on online = games?

- Is it possible to beat your son on the = Playstation? How? (well, this is a very difficult = question…)

 

During the session we will not only talk, but we will = also play some games (one belonging to each of the main game = genres), in order to capture the traffic and to show the effect of = delay and packet loss on the playability.

 

It will also be possible for some = of the attendants to run an online car race with us during the = session (we need 6 or 7 volunteers). The session will last 1 hour. The = exact day will be announced soon.

 

Jose Saldana

University of = Zaragoza.


PS: If you cannot see the video on = the link, you can download it from here:

= https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.= mp4

= https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1.= wmv

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_= 320x240_iphone.mp4

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_= lowres.mov

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_= lowres.wmv

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67016195/games_berlin_1_= med_res.mp4

------=_NextPart_000_0086_01CE7C99.EB4FD040-- From peter@denic.de Tue Jul 9 09:24:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD77821F9CA4 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:24:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id f8NmDhJ7L-ro for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:24:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (office.denic.de [IPv6:2a02:568:122:16:1::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21A821F9C21 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 09:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de (x28.fra2.if.denic.de [10.122.64.17]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1Uwaht-0007lz-D3; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:24:01 +0200 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1Uwaht-0006Ua-8j; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 18:24:01 +0200 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 18:24:01 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: 87attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20130709162401.GQ17456@x28.adm.denic.de> References: <20130709074442.GN17456@x28.adm.denic.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130709074442.GN17456@x28.adm.denic.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: Peter Koch Subject: Re: [87attendees] water, trains, and bridges X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 16:24:03 -0000 On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 09:44:42AM +0200, Peter Koch wrote: > I'll share pointers to official updates asap. Trains will continue to run on interim schedule until 28 July. At the moment, the online journey planner does not yet reflect those changes for 19 - 28 July, so please re-check regularly. Starting 29 July, an amended interim schedule will come into effect. Enjoy the ride (and the prolonged experience)! -Peter From eckert@cisco.com Sat Jul 13 16:22:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E9921F9EE8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 16:22:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id liN4D2cFajoU for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 16:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DE721F9BF7 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 16:22:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1919; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1373757751; x=1374967351; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version: in-reply-to; bh=SOpZTEgXzEUfqQIlNIJRHeHatmiOPgmXmEg2efM4Dnk=; b=mECYI+UVdi/XisINjZD1XS8LSVb/RYDPuZLM6CByShMlhUdouSRmDy7f HjI7MGOvEEBChyxQ0NrEscnwj4isT+b6WUl5zAA6Y7+Fl46e/qKA4IqJn JTmRrZ7OlinE7F30AzYiR34A8cLxED/zmd3RBYtm9/IUKaMm9CmQukcYq U=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwFAOzg4VGrRDoH/2dsb2JhbABZgwY0wi6BChZ0giMBAQEEAQEBNzQbCxIGCSUPBRMiFBOIDw2uF4c4BI4iCoE/g3gDiSeONAGRTYMyHIEsCRc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,661,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="83413327" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 13 Jul 2013 23:22:30 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6DNMTTY009068 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 23:22:29 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6DNMTva022496 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 16:22:29 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r6DNMT5m022495 for 87attendees@ietf.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 16:22:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 16:22:29 -0700 From: "eckert@cisco.com" To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: <20130713232229.GQ17405@cisco.com> References: <20130708175059.GT17405@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130708175059.GT17405@cisco.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building ? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 23:22:48 -0000 Hi folks Didn't get the critical mass of 10 folks for eithre slot yet, so will likely not set this up. I'll wait until tuesday. Cheers Toerless On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:50:59AM -0700, eckert@cisco.com wrote: > a) If you want to visit the dome, the prior mails should have been clear: > Just register with name/birthdate on their web-page. Show up 15 minutes > before target slot at the building, bring ID. Dome visit is about 20 > minutes, at least that's how long the audio-guide is. > > https://visite.bundestag.de/BAPWeb/pages/createBookingRequest.jsf?lang=en > > b) There is no available guided tour through the building proper available > in english (the regular one on tue noon is booked), but i asked in email, > and if we send them a request with the list of names/birthdates, they > would evaluate whether they could offer us a tour. The tours are > about 90 min. YOu can visit the dome afterwards. > > So, if you are interested to get a guided tour, send me an email > and indicate which of the two slots you would be interested in: > > Sun 15:30 (3:30 PM), Thur 18:30 (6:30 PM). > (Those are official times, i can ask them if the thursday one could > be made later, eg: 19:30 which gives enough time to get to the > building after thursdays last seesion - not sure if they'd do that > late slot though). > > If i have more than 10 names interested in any slot, i will ask > for full name/birthdates and send off the request to them. > > Groups may be limited to 30 (not sure). > > Cheers > Toerless > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! From acooper@cdt.org Mon Jul 15 08:34:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5883211E80EC for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:34:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.589 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.589 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.010, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qZ-oQP9n2YX0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.maclaboratory.net (mail.maclaboratory.net [209.190.215.232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA1A21E80B2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:34:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Footer: Y2R0Lm9yZw== Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.maclaboratory.net (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)) for 87attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:34:05 -0400 From: Alissa Cooper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:34:06 -0400 To: 87attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Subject: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:34:11 -0000 For new attendees or others that are not aware, there is a mailing list = for IETF women, known as "systers." We very much welcome new and = experienced IETF participants to join the list: = https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/systers Regards, Alissa= From klaas@wierenga.net Mon Jul 15 08:48:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B78C21E80AC for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:48:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LX-aXOlJjDN1 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out42-ams.mf.surf.net (out42-ams.mf.surf.net [145.0.1.42]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F7C21E80AA for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teletubbie.het.net.je (teletubbie.het.net.je [192.87.110.29]) by outgoing2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id r6FFmDtd000444; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:48:13 +0200 Received: from 5355139f.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.85.19.159] helo=[192.168.1.238]) by teletubbie.het.net.je with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Uyl0C-000Mxw-4G; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:47:52 +0200 References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: Klaas Wierenga Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:48:12 +0200 To: Alissa Cooper X-Antivirus: no malware found X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=192.87.110.29; country=NL; latitude=52.5000; longitude=5.7500; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5000,5.7500&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: p-out:default (inherits from p:default,base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0vK0DMdG4 - a50a6fcfe065 - 20130715 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:48:45 -0000 In the interest of inclusion and diversity, are men welcome too? :-) Sent from my iPad On 15 jul. 2013, at 17:34, Alissa Cooper wrote: > For new attendees or others that are not aware, there is a mailing list fo= r IETF women, known as "systers." We very much welcome new and experienced I= ETF participants to join the list: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sys= ters >=20 > Regards, > Alissa > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From stpeter@stpeter.im Mon Jul 15 08:50:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EED921E80DF for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:50:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.555 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.555 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.044, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u-9gJw6XeIzt for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E321321E80DD for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ergon.local (unknown [128.107.239.233]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 155E841437; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:51:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <51E41A24.6030408@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:49:56 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Klaas Wierenga References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Alissa Cooper Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:50:21 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 That would kind of defeat the purpose, no? On 7/15/13 9:48 AM, Klaas Wierenga wrote: > In the interest of inclusion and diversity, are men welcome too? > :-) > > Sent from my iPad > > On 15 jul. 2013, at 17:34, Alissa Cooper wrote: > >> For new attendees or others that are not aware, there is a >> mailing list for IETF women, known as "systers." We very much >> welcome new and experienced IETF participants to join the list: >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/systers >> >> Regards, Alissa -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJR5BokAAoJEOoGpJErxa2pYYwP/2BqA0oNrF79FLNMFkbFLSYm rzmbQDW/eZbsT42S6zspZRhBCegY3qkNZxLnfO464a2wPpQEd1y9Vn1MbzrunTOP rpip3yT+hcTajpW4PhZ8CMFLTVWVh38prN6DBPWhssYXEyL9Q3pRARKQvFkmG78Z kE9oqnCMS+H/taqn4vist2GbN6OGIuQ8vyO9sejiTYpRpk6uxOpnfnOzcNbgRq5n xF3ngZGuc6fBq2Jq1C8MP06Y8PlBOzluM3IGkCYNQa3kOESQafX8mNvo70fEZ5FR gcwbvkeeOjTJ1zKANNdh5m5iPS4Jw8lDRLEsanNr71RrlmtUY72kX6a4i5St+Ryv D4FykU6FuW0V0cRe92Ug3tbLIa2Q47PaUX3KYOfXcwIF4ky3B8I/bIKYAkdTaLeS sRC9NZze/Rj4UxSWdU/UP8wrPHLb53F7tuG7BL3YYyQ51wTM/zQ/cUme2DHb9Cl/ MPcITcZCeQcU20ASxPXd4sIITrSvtjH7KE1LjrGrE8y/t19mhMlma7JDYvWyFS3i iM4gHNaOLvEsJkzxICVuwxQYqINOFBbODFct2TtqP8aar9aWb2vrPqp/yzZRrxk0 uCnZYjVsQBxWmYyXFkswdkKaLlFcFtHoWyd5hqcYqIDez83NTj0HBVfOsImMm9u3 cgugoUMTNUcudfwE85gM =c/ML -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Mon Jul 15 09:07:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E77A21F9D33 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:07:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.519 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.519 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.080, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id l3nghuX9kE5v for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A1B21E8092 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (h228.viagenie.ca [206.123.31.228]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 279EF40437 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51E41E36.6010303@viagenie.ca> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:07:18 +0200 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> <51E41A24.6030408@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <51E41A24.6030408@stpeter.im> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:07:28 -0000 Le 2013-07-15 17:49, Peter Saint-Andre a écrit : > That would kind of defeat the purpose, no? If it's a "women-only club", yes. I hope and I think it's not. Furthermore, a thought experiment: What about transgenders? What about hermaphrodites? What about people whose biological sex is unknown? What about biological men who are women psychologically? What about biological women who are men psychologically? If there's one thing vCard has taught me, it's that sex is hard. ;) Simon > On 7/15/13 9:48 AM, Klaas Wierenga wrote: >> In the interest of inclusion and diversity, are men welcome too? >> :-) From johnl@taugh.com Mon Jul 15 09:12:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B3A11E8105 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.647 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.647 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.047, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id glWJCfJp0Xdw for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:12:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9D421F9C8F for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 67017 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2013 16:12:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-id:user-agent:cleverness; s=105c8.51e41f79.k1307; bh=IwYg+c8wBVui0AvekNvkK2T2y4hj0kqmbMt0dUxcOQI=; b=0VeEkw1GzP36YrTJIILE+SKJmJrdQ2MSZfb4xyGuA7XqEvO87EfWiB96YHSGQzE7siUwOHlUQR3NXoNSV/9cDs3o0jX0CN1nYZhUcXJQKvFs6XkEPuXl5F3UXURcQi9jHCm3XCDmpvIaWp6HFVKxe7fBjc43V3GDw4svJhvj/S4QRUHpt8pOAQutWIsfgTwnJ4LTKEFlYNY0fmfCUglMoVsvmStvkTRIYOkU+Ur55sMYII+6kMtfZy7+zax35KmP DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:content-id:user-agent:cleverness; s=105c8.51e41f79.k1307; bh=IwYg+c8wBVui0AvekNvkK2T2y4hj0kqmbMt0dUxcOQI=; b=c4bBMuCreEDo0uXFWocrWwA/wjEocVxY630tAwSVz8nFI6q20Z82Hv+DGinoMbLDUS3gnMK9JdxXxwVW9NJccTff28eaPvNiFuVVgZ/R43eIZ6/E6gTLqjvBL6r5vrEDCJUxFnl3MPQssSj5GIwJkIagiH0YBr2At3KoxQSlcbE1YgYhbV6i9eFlauE888/QcsmX40Bq3gukvmVJhq7DSk0lG5YwZh1TScnnFZKico+pkZfG7hxqbNbFflGknMuh Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 15 Jul 2013 16:12:19 -0000 Date: 15 Jul 2013 12:12:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: 87attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="3825401791-1669498878-1373904225=:45887" Content-ID: Subject: [87attendees] Berlin airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:12:43 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --3825401791-1669498878-1373904225=:45887 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: In case nobody's posted this yet, it is very easy to get from the airport to the hotel on public transportation, assuming you don't have more luggage than you can carry. There is a transportation desk at the airport near the exit to the bus stops. Buy a zone AB ticket for 2,40€, go out and take the X9 bus. Validate your ticket by sticking it in the validator on the bus. Get off at the fifth stop at the Zoo, take the 200 bus toward Michelangelostrasse two stops to Budapeststrasse and you'll be in front of the hotel. Each stop is announced and shown on displays in the bus, so it's easy to tell where you are, even if you don't recognize the Zoo because, you know, it's the zoo. If you expect to make many trips around town, I'd suggest buying a weekly zone AB ticket at the airport for €28, which you also validate on your first trip. You probably won't save much money compared to individual tickets but it's much less hassle. Berlin has an integrated fare system and the same ticket is good on buses, U-bahn (subway), and S-bahn (regional train.) Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. --3825401791-1669498878-1373904225=:45887-- From ietfdbh@comcast.net Mon Jul 15 09:47:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA60D21F9A4C for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:47:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.166 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.166 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.271, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HU6NGdsxmkPf for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe14:44:76:96:59:212]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73AB21E80BE for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 09:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0csY1m0041wpRvQ5EgnrwP; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:47:51 +0000 Received: from JV6RVH1 ([67.189.237.137]) by omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0gnq1m01R2yZEBF3egnr7R; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:47:51 +0000 From: "ietfdbh" To: "'Alissa Cooper'" , <87attendees@ietf.org> References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> In-Reply-To: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:47:09 -0400 Message-ID: <00ba01ce817a$f2879c90$d796d5b0$@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQJQcIwppl9R1WsMka71olWHUywNkZhiENqQ Content-Language: en-us DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1373906871; bh=S/XYxI+0MNNr7JLUZFKyTrcbxytX05BRlkTydiM8Jq4=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=HOX2d3LddWj9Rg86gAdA9QMGWU600x4jmMF8hQmU6ZW9TDLcQyO4J/yZ3tQo6lGWE l/roWT9pNiBxzYsgLyeLwMVzz+7jMrA9D7Og+9csCdcN90i20O9ePXR5+Th3wQsvni +53OZmXSi/7ipTSlaIIKHp6zgGW+LIHUJ+uIEjuIJ5SUfFqzvPMgbf0IVlOKt8vYX1 Zd1o71WHR/S7dq8PGAMR6QYgeFgL9vZaKdbZWtueVBVtT8FPifAwgXePdPHUp8SjlM uIow2bIGeTYYzruonzWHeHuXIEyvFRA099AkkVXj3sAilUJVy0PhbUMphN4D+9uJID JarSLBh3Nax8Q== Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:47:56 -0000 Hi Alisa, I understand that women are a minority, and trying to ease communication could be a good thing. The IESG considered something similar a few years ago. IIRC, Chinese participants requested a Chinese mailing list. (some also proposed a Chinese social) The IESG decided that such a list was actually not a good idea. We really want these segments to interact with the whole IETF community, not divide into small self-selected segments. If you want the whole IETF to understand the nature of the problems faced by women in the IETF, or Chinese in the IETF, or people with food allergies, then discuss the problems on the whole IETF list, not a special list for the XXXX segment only. Mary Barnes discussed the issues of food sensitivity on the IETF-discuss list. As a result, people without food allergies now understand better the problems faced by people with food allergies attending the IETF. If the women go to special women-only lunches, they won't be participating in many of the lunch meetings that include men. Lunch meetings are very important for advancement of the technologies we are developing. Do you really want to have women's views NOT represented in those important technology meetings? Will having this systers list help or exacerbate the problems faced by women in the IETF? What would be the reaction if I set up a men-only mailing list, to coordinate lunches for men only? Something to think about ... David Harrington ietfdbh@comcast.net +1-603-828-1401 > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:34 AM > To: 87attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women > > For new attendees or others that are not aware, there is a mailing list for IETF > women, known as "systers." We very much welcome new and experienced > IETF participants to join the list: > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/systers > > Regards, > Alissa > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From dhc@dcrocker.net Mon Jul 15 10:06:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0842221E80E0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:06:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.592 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.592 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.007, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ExN4bWmuKper for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC1F21E80D6 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (76-218-9-215.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [76.218.9.215]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6FH5tLP025613 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:05:58 -0700 Message-ID: <51E42BD3.9030205@dcrocker.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:05:23 -0700 From: Dave Crocker Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietfdbh References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> <00ba01ce817a$f2879c90$d796d5b0$@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <00ba01ce817a$f2879c90$d796d5b0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.66]); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, 'Alissa Cooper' Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:06:24 -0000 On 7/15/2013 9:47 AM, ietfdbh wrote: > The IESG decided that such a list was actually not a good idea. > We really want these segments to interact with the whole IETF community, not > divide into small self-selected segments. There is a long history of organizational management attempting to impose specific interaction models on folks. Like the Internet, folk find a way to route around such barriers. It's not that the goal isn't worthy, it's that it is Procrustean and represents a misunderstanding of human... diversity. In the case of the IETF, it also happens to run contrary to established practice: Section 6.5, Design teams IETF Working Group Guidelines and Procedures RFC 2418 When I added discussion of design teams to the original version of that document, it was controversial. But by then, the reality of self-organizing, like-minded sub-groups was well-established and highly pragmatic practice. The current activity is a social/organizational equivalent to a design team. The only issue is whether IETF management aids these naturally-occurring groups or gets in their way. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From aservin@lacnic.net Mon Jul 15 10:10:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860AB21E810F for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:10:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.375 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.375 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.225, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DGf32AyUzV5V for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9263811E8184 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Arturos-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:7000:c172:acff:254:c25]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id C161C308462 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:09:54 -0300 (UYT) Message-ID: <51E42CF4.6040505@lacnic.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:10:12 -0300 From: Arturo Servin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> <00ba01ce817a$f2879c90$d796d5b0$@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <00ba01ce817a$f2879c90$d796d5b0$@comcast.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: aservin@lacnic.net Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:10:29 -0000 Sorry, I do not buy it. We set up an external list for people to discuss the IETF in Spanish and Portuguese. So far, in a couple of months it has giving more results that the discussions in the general IETF list. I would recommend to have some special interest list like women, Chinese, Spanish, Portuguese. Believe it or not, people from those segments feel more safe to discuss there. Also, there are special interest from those communities that are better to be discussed in deep there and later in the general list. as On 7/15/13 1:47 PM, ietfdbh wrote: > Hi Alisa, > > I understand that women are a minority, and trying to ease communication > could be a good thing. > > The IESG considered something similar a few years ago. > IIRC, Chinese participants requested a Chinese mailing list. > (some also proposed a Chinese social) > The IESG decided that such a list was actually not a good idea. > We really want these segments to interact with the whole IETF community, not > divide into small self-selected segments. > If you want the whole IETF to understand the nature of the problems faced by > women in the IETF, or Chinese in the IETF, or people with food allergies, > then discuss the problems on the whole IETF list, not a special list for the > XXXX segment only. > > Mary Barnes discussed the issues of food sensitivity on the IETF-discuss > list. > As a result, people without food allergies now understand better the > problems faced by people with food allergies attending the IETF. > If the women go to special women-only lunches, they won't be participating > in many of the lunch meetings that include men. > Lunch meetings are very important for advancement of the technologies we are > developing. > Do you really want to have women's views NOT represented in those important > technology meetings? > > Will having this systers list help or exacerbate the problems faced by women > in the IETF? > > What would be the reaction if I set up a men-only mailing list, to > coordinate lunches for men only? > Something to think about ... > > David Harrington > ietfdbh@comcast.net > +1-603-828-1401 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper >> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:34 AM >> To: 87attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women >> >> For new attendees or others that are not aware, there is a mailing list > for IETF >> women, known as "systers." We very much welcome new and experienced >> IETF participants to join the list: >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/systers >> >> Regards, >> Alissa >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From carlos@lacnic.net Mon Jul 15 10:22:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBC411E8105 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:22:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i147xIJgXrFY for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3835A11E8153 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 87-7-200.lacnic.net.uy (unknown [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:7000:6804:7468:f37e:7e33]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E55308462 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:22:18 -0300 (UYT) Message-ID: <51E42FE0.2080802@lacnic.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:22:40 -0300 From: "Carlos M. Martinez" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> <00ba01ce817a$f2879c90$d796d5b0$@comcast.net> <51E42CF4.6040505@lacnic.net> In-Reply-To: <51E42CF4.6040505@lacnic.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: carlos@lacnic.net Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:22:55 -0000 Hello, I think the point that bothers some of us here is not that there is a Women-oriented ML. I'm perfectly fine with it, everybody I know is fine with it and I, personally, applaud the effort. The point that bothers me is whether the membership to said MLs (let's say Martians and AlphaCentaurians so nobody feels hurt) is to be vetted and closed to certain groups only. Personally, I'm not comfortable with that concept. I don't think discrimination can be fought with more discrimination, and I think that if the Martians feel that the needs of their community is not being addressed by the wider public, it's in their own best interest to have their plea heard by the widest possible audience. Special interest is fine. After all, all MLs are special-interest-oriented. If I post a message regarding how I water my gardenias to sidr or 6man I'll probably be shot upon my arrival in Berlin (only-half-jokingly :-) ). In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open but special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the resident moderators. Cheers! ~Carlos On 7/15/13 2:10 PM, Arturo Servin wrote: > Sorry, I do not buy it. > > We set up an external list for people to discuss the IETF in Spanish > and Portuguese. > > So far, in a couple of months it has giving more results that the > discussions in the general IETF list. > > I would recommend to have some special interest list like women, > Chinese, Spanish, Portuguese. Believe it or not, people from those > segments feel more safe to discuss there. Also, there are special > interest from those communities that are better to be discussed in deep > there and later in the general list. > > as > > > On 7/15/13 1:47 PM, ietfdbh wrote: >> Hi Alisa, >> >> I understand that women are a minority, and trying to ease communication >> could be a good thing. >> >> The IESG considered something similar a few years ago. >> IIRC, Chinese participants requested a Chinese mailing list. >> (some also proposed a Chinese social) >> The IESG decided that such a list was actually not a good idea. >> We really want these segments to interact with the whole IETF community, not >> divide into small self-selected segments. >> If you want the whole IETF to understand the nature of the problems faced by >> women in the IETF, or Chinese in the IETF, or people with food allergies, >> then discuss the problems on the whole IETF list, not a special list for the >> XXXX segment only. >> >> Mary Barnes discussed the issues of food sensitivity on the IETF-discuss >> list. >> As a result, people without food allergies now understand better the >> problems faced by people with food allergies attending the IETF. >> If the women go to special women-only lunches, they won't be participating >> in many of the lunch meetings that include men. >> Lunch meetings are very important for advancement of the technologies we are >> developing. >> Do you really want to have women's views NOT represented in those important >> technology meetings? >> >> Will having this systers list help or exacerbate the problems faced by women >> in the IETF? >> >> What would be the reaction if I set up a men-only mailing list, to >> coordinate lunches for men only? >> Something to think about ... >> >> David Harrington >> ietfdbh@comcast.net >> +1-603-828-1401 >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- >>> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper >>> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:34 AM >>> To: 87attendees@ietf.org >>> Subject: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women >>> >>> For new attendees or others that are not aware, there is a mailing list >> for IETF >>> women, known as "systers." We very much welcome new and experienced >>> IETF participants to join the list: >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/systers >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alissa >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 87attendees mailing list >>> 87attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From stpeter@stpeter.im Mon Jul 15 10:29:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1977E11E8105 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:29:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.556 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0OaP9z9qVMy0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0958821F99FE for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ergon.local (unknown [128.107.239.233]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 16B4141437; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:30:44 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <51E43170.7010005@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:29:20 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Carlos M. Martinez" References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> <00ba01ce817a$f2879c90$d796d5b0$@comcast.net> <51E42CF4.6040505@lacnic.net> <51E42FE0.2080802@lacnic.net> In-Reply-To: <51E42FE0.2080802@lacnic.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:29:33 -0000 On 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open but > special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the resident > moderators. Nothing says that such lists need to be hosted at ietf.org (where people who are excluded have a basis to complain about all sorts of processes and procedures defined in various RFCs). Arturo reports that there is a non-IETF list where people who like to participate in the IETF can talk amongst themselves in Spanish and Portuguese. That seems like a better model to follow in such cases. After all, it's easy enough to buy a domain, install mailing list software, and start a discussion list (or use a public mailing list service). 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Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:54:46 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.71] (66.129.232.2) by pod51010.outlook.com (10.255.215.165) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.329.3; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:54:40 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_9CD7454F-1952-48FF-A26D-15CE7D2B4883" From: Jeffrey Haas In-Reply-To: <51E41E36.6010303@viagenie.ca> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:54:30 -0400 Message-ID: <1A333CF1-2F94-46DE-B760-DF00C460830F@juniper.net> References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> <51E41A24.6030408@stpeter.im> <51E41E36.6010303@viagenie.ca> To: Simon Perreault X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Originating-IP: [66.129.232.2] X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%VIAGENIE.CA$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:55:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_9CD7454F-1952-48FF-A26D-15CE7D2B4883 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Jul 15, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Simon Perreault wrote: > Le 2013-07-15 17:49, Peter Saint-Andre a =E9crit : >> That would kind of defeat the purpose, no? >=20 > If it's a "women-only club", yes. I hope and I think it's not. >=20 > Furthermore, a thought experiment: Proving that any thread in an IETF mail list is only a few exchanges = away from edge cases. :-) -- Jeff (arguably also an edge case)= --Apple-Mail=_9CD7454F-1952-48FF-A26D-15CE7D2B4883 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Le = 2013-07-15 17:49, Peter Saint-Andre a =E9crit :
That would kind of defeat the purpose, = no?

If it's a "women-only club", yes. I hope and I = think it's not.

Furthermore, a thought = experiment:

Proving that any = thread in an IETF mail list is only a few exchanges away from edge = cases. :-)

-- Jeff (arguably also an edge = case)
= --Apple-Mail=_9CD7454F-1952-48FF-A26D-15CE7D2B4883-- From acooper@cdt.org Mon Jul 15 11:18:05 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ACDB21E80DC for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:18:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.009, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iVbee2tery9d for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:18:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.maclaboratory.net (mail.maclaboratory.net [209.190.215.232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9750521E811E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:17:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Footer: Y2R0Lm9yZw== Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.maclaboratory.net (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher AES128-SHA (128 bits)) for 87attendees@ietf.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:17:56 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) From: Alissa Cooper In-Reply-To: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:18:01 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9BF25649-32AC-4654-BA3C-1B9240042A2A@cdt.org> References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:18:05 -0000 The systers list is not new. It was created years ago and has long been = a useful tool for communication among IETF women. Prior to several = recent IETF meetings, a reminder about the list's existence has been = sent to the meeting's attendee list to inform new and experienced = participants about the existence of the list. No one is explicitly prevented from joining the list. It is primarily = used to provide mutual support to women who participate in the IETF and = to discuss women's events and activities.=20 Regards, Alissa On Jul 15, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > For new attendees or others that are not aware, there is a mailing = list for IETF women, known as "systers." We very much welcome new and = experienced IETF participants to join the list: = https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/systers >=20 > Regards, > Alissa > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 From kathleen.moriarty@emc.com Mon Jul 15 11:26:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829CB11E8149 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:26:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.499, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tG68dkZwT2cX for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (hop-nat-141.emc.com [168.159.213.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FDC11E81C7 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si02.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI02.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.55]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id r6FIPjJZ023126 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:25:46 -0400 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (mailhubhoprd02.lss.emc.com [10.254.221.253]) by hop04-l1d11-si02.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:25:27 -0400 Received: from mxhub02.corp.emc.com (mxhub02.corp.emc.com [10.254.141.104]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id r6FIPRUI020299; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:25:27 -0400 Received: from mx15a.corp.emc.com ([169.254.1.184]) by mxhub02.corp.emc.com ([10.254.141.104]) with mapi; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:25:27 -0400 From: "Moriarty, Kathleen" To: Peter Saint-Andre , "Carlos M. Martinez" Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:25:25 -0400 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women Thread-Index: Ac6BgOfQYspRznyUTEen6neVZwyT+QABau/A Message-ID: References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> <00ba01ce817a$f2879c90$d796d5b0$@comcast.net> <51E42CF4.6040505@lacnic.net> <51E42FE0.2080802@lacnic.net> <51E43170.7010005@stpeter.im> In-Reply-To: <51E43170.7010005@stpeter.im> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EMM-MHVC: 1 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:26:03 -0000 I do agree that it can be beneficial for groups to be able to talk amongst = themselves to have a safe environment. One of the themes I have been heari= ng in the diversity work is that the hardest thing to do is to change a cul= ture to open up the group to diversity. For the women's list and gatherings, I do think it is important that there = is a space for them to communicate and discuss ideas before surfacing them = elsewhere, to Arturo's point. Broad lists, like the main IETF one would be= very hard for women to openly discuss ideas as culturally, there is a diff= erence in communication styles and I think many would fear being shot down = while they were still shaping ideas. I think there is some value in a grou= p being able to work together and help each other to develop ideas before p= resenting them elsewhere (to David's point on ensuring the IETF as a whole = understands issues). Various studies point to shifts in the culture or the point at which minori= ty groups become comfortable voicing opinions. Studies that look at board = members for organizations have observed that one woman is a good start, but= doesn't have that much effect. Two is better, but with this number, they = will often limit their interactions with each other for fear that it may be= seen as them colluding. Three seems to be the turning point where they st= art to have an impact and influence and will collaborate with each other. The book Lean In suggests that we have to get to 50% for both leadership an= d members before there is a true cultural shift where it no longer matters = if you are a woman or man in the environment. I am not sure if this comes = from Lean In or something else I read (or session I attended), but it takes= about 100 years from the start of any movement for it to be a non-issue an= ymore... so we have a ways to go still. The Executive Women's Forum is a good example of a women's group. They do = allow anyone to attend their events and some of us make a point of bringing= male colleagues. The Simmon's Women's conference, while is mostly attende= d by women, does not exclude and you do see some male executives or others = interested in the topics discussed attending events. I don't think we have reached a tipping point yet, but hope we do at some p= oint ;-) Thanks, Kathleen=20 -----Original Message----- From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:29 PM To: Carlos M. Martinez Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women On 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open but > special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the resident > moderators. Nothing says that such lists need to be hosted at ietf.org (where people who are excluded have a basis to complain about all sorts of processes and procedures defined in various RFCs). Arturo reports that there is a non-IETF list where people who like to participate in the IETF can talk amongst themselves in Spanish and Portuguese. That seems like a better model to follow in such cases. After all, it's easy enough to buy a domain, install mailing list software, and start a discussion list (or use a public mailing list service). Peter --=20 Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From cja@daydream.com Mon Jul 15 11:46:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF2011E81C6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:46:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zTzCa61WmYs2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFAFC11E817C for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x17so3405172vbf.38 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:46:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=TYhP0lrly0MmvJTHAzNsEDzntIFPy8wUmm10f1DH6UE=; b=HGcct/c8YWHqeO/vZl6aKcn5HGwybO7s9UaO2wbot3HHGNtLsj7uUg6GfI3Mi2eULE 9ZKbHB5wqFlHxeQ7UmehplfGXlrdokVGTvzjps0cy1jvqPSNhVvBMuaTS0liSlqLSpdV LlZLId/9MIDze1mlJBS46/71QJArQJhIZpzyNRKBhgqY/jD0W5yM00O3gcIpD0O+wsOy L/VDq7CYLOY0XLobrjScUj92566ym4QmzUs2dggX+G819JrfujG7CG4ZUDk+UfJbBxL6 Eb5Texll2yLJtmSrToj2hOyh1pDWlCN5Gp3fZ8DDErbbT1Ph6e3CNsHp9B3/kR3kCN1S O0Xg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.11.143 with SMTP id t15mr28967443vct.68.1373913971065; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.5.98 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:46:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [184.167.18.198] In-Reply-To: References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> <00ba01ce817a$f2879c90$d796d5b0$@comcast.net> <51E42CF4.6040505@lacnic.net> <51E42FE0.2080802@lacnic.net> <51E43170.7010005@stpeter.im> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:46:10 -0600 Message-ID: From: CJ Aronson To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3ae6a32a5a904e191468c X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmKObodGq3q+BnOp7RNKdU1KqEJOPSC+Vug9rZdfzy9ieiWE4DknFSd1qBKNBbGlt+VtMmB Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:46:18 -0000 --001a11c3ae6a32a5a904e191468c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Systers has been around for a very long time. Here is a summary from the website of systers.. Super duper threatening to all you martians out there I am sure.. ----Cathy *About systers*English (USA) This list is used to organize women's lunches (and similar gatherings) at IETF meetings. The purpose of these gatherings is to give us a chance to socialize with other women who attend the IETF, and to offer mutual support in our IETF activities. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen < kathleen.moriarty@emc.com> wrote: > I do agree that it can be beneficial for groups to be able to talk amongst > themselves to have a safe environment. One of the themes I have been > hearing in the diversity work is that the hardest thing to do is to change > a culture to open up the group to diversity. > > For the women's list and gatherings, I do think it is important that there > is a space for them to communicate and discuss ideas before surfacing them > elsewhere, to Arturo's point. Broad lists, like the main IETF one would be > very hard for women to openly discuss ideas as culturally, there is a > difference in communication styles and I think many would fear being shot > down while they were still shaping ideas. I think there is some value in a > group being able to work together and help each other to develop ideas > before presenting them elsewhere (to David's point on ensuring the IETF as > a whole understands issues). > > Various studies point to shifts in the culture or the point at which > minority groups become comfortable voicing opinions. Studies that look at > board members for organizations have observed that one woman is a good > start, but doesn't have that much effect. Two is better, but with this > number, they will often limit their interactions with each other for fear > that it may be seen as them colluding. Three seems to be the turning point > where they start to have an impact and influence and will collaborate with > each other. > > The book Lean In suggests that we have to get to 50% for both leadership > and members before there is a true cultural shift where it no longer > matters if you are a woman or man in the environment. I am not sure if > this comes from Lean In or something else I read (or session I attended), > but it takes about 100 years from the start of any movement for it to be a > non-issue anymore... so we have a ways to go still. > > The Executive Women's Forum is a good example of a women's group. They do > allow anyone to attend their events and some of us make a point of bringing > male colleagues. The Simmon's Women's conference, while is mostly attended > by women, does not exclude and you do see some male executives or others > interested in the topics discussed attending events. > > I don't think we have reached a tipping point yet, but hope we do at some > point ;-) > > Thanks, > Kathleen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre > Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:29 PM > To: Carlos M. Martinez > Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women > > On 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > > > In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open but > > special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the resident > > moderators. > > Nothing says that such lists need to be hosted at ietf.org (where people > who are excluded have a basis to complain about all sorts of processes > and procedures defined in various RFCs). Arturo reports that there is a > non-IETF list where people who like to participate in the IETF can talk > amongst themselves in Spanish and Portuguese. That seems like a better > model to follow in such cases. After all, it's easy enough to buy a > domain, install mailing list software, and start a discussion list (or > use a public mailing list service). > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > --001a11c3ae6a32a5a904e191468c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Systers has been around for a very lo= ng time. =A0Here is a summary from the website of systers.. Super duper thr= eatening to all you martians out there I am sure.. =A0

----Cathy

About systers
English (USA)

This list is used to organize wom= en's lunches (and similar gatherings)=A0
at IETF meetings. The purpo= se of these gatherings is to give us a=A0
chance to socialize with other= women who attend the IETF, and to offer=A0
mutual support in our IETF activities.=A0




On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen <kathleen.moriarty@emc.com> wrote:
I do agree that it can be beneficial for gro= ups to be able to talk amongst themselves to have a safe environment. =A0On= e of the themes I have been hearing in the diversity work is that the harde= st thing to do is to change a culture to open up the group to diversity.
For the women's list and gatherings, I do think it is important that th= ere is a space for them to communicate and discuss ideas before surfacing t= hem elsewhere, to Arturo's point. =A0Broad lists, like the main IETF on= e would be very hard for women to openly discuss ideas as culturally, there= is a difference in communication styles and I think many would fear being = shot down while they were still shaping ideas. =A0I think there is some val= ue in a group being able to work together and help each other to develop id= eas before presenting them elsewhere (to David's point on ensuring the = IETF as a whole understands issues).

Various studies point to shifts in the culture or the point at which minori= ty groups become comfortable voicing opinions. =A0Studies that look at boar= d members for organizations have observed that one woman is a good start, b= ut doesn't have that much effect. =A0Two is better, but with this numbe= r, they will often limit their interactions with each other for fear that i= t may be seen as them colluding. =A0Three seems to be the turning point whe= re they start to have an impact and influence and will collaborate with eac= h other.

The book Lean In suggests that we have to get to 50% for both leadership an= d members before there is a true cultural shift where it no longer matters = if you are a woman or man in the environment. =A0I am not sure if this come= s from Lean In or something else I read (or session I attended), but it tak= es about 100 years from the start of any movement for it to be a non-issue = anymore... so we have a ways to go still.

The Executive Women's Forum is a good example of a women's group. = =A0They do allow anyone to attend their events and some of us make a point = of bringing male colleagues. =A0The Simmon's Women's conference, wh= ile is mostly attended by women, does not exclude and you do see some male = executives or others interested in the topics discussed attending events.
I don't think we have reached a tipping point yet, but hope we do at so= me point ;-)

Thanks,
Kathleen


-----Original Message-----
From: 87attendees-bounces@i= etf.org [mailto:87atten= dees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:29 PM
To: Carlos M. Martinez
Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women

On 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:

> In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open but > special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the reside= nt
> moderators.

Nothing says that such lists need to be hosted at ietf.org (where people
who are excluded have a basis to complain about all sorts of processes
and procedures defined in various RFCs). Arturo reports that there is a
non-IETF list where people who like to participate in the IETF can talk
amongst themselves in Spanish and Portuguese. That seems like a better
model to follow in such cases. After all, it's easy enough to buy a
domain, install mailing list software, and start a discussion list (or
use a public mailing list service).

Peter

--
Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/

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--001a11c3ae6a32a5a904e191468c-- From dharkins@arubanetworks.com Mon Jul 15 21:36:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A439D21E818A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:36:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m788yjegiV+9 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjcbarracuda02.arubanetworks.com (sjcbarracuda02.arubanetworks.com [199.127.104.60]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1E621E8186 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:36:48 -0700 (PDT) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1373949406-03d1344653493f30001-zkFhpE Received: from DIAMONDPEAK.arubanetworks.com ([10.1.8.23]) by sjcbarracuda02.arubanetworks.com with ESMTP id c7xW1kfVy95kC7JR (version=TLSv1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:36:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: dharkins@arubanetworks.com X-Barracuda-RBL-Trusted-Forwarder: 10.1.8.23 Received: from SODASPRINGS.arubanetworks.com ([fe80::d5b8:f896:7f06:1061]) by DIAMONDPEAK.arubanetworks.com ([::1]) with mapi id 14.02.0283.003; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 21:36:46 -0700 From: Dan Harkins X-Barracuda-BWL-IP: fe80::d5b8:f896:7f06:1061 To: CJ Aronson , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women Thread-Index: AQHOgXDEKonKu+Yvpk+2E3xBnO5yPJlmaFuAgAAGcQCAAAN7AIAAAd0AgAAPrICAAAXMAIAAL6gA Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 04:36:45 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [10.1.8.201] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <77DF560E68E30245BFC1DE233DA4B846@arubanetworks.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: UNKNOWN[10.1.8.23] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1373949406 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: http://10.2.1.21:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at arubanetworks.com X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.136897 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 04:36:52 -0000 On 7/15/13 11:46 AM, "CJ Aronson" wrote: >Systers has been around for a very long time. Here is a summary from the >website of systers.. Super duper threatening to all you martians out >there I am sure..=20 Oh sarcasm! And here I thought there was a "difference in communication styles" that the systers needed to refine on their list for "fear being shot down" on the main IETF one. Don't fear Cathy, you can be "comfortable voicing opinions" with that ever-popular rhetorical device. If it's not super duper threatening then why are the archives closed? Dan. > >----Cathy > > >About systersEnglish (USA)This list is used to organize women's lunches >(and similar gatherings) >at IETF meetings. The purpose of these gatherings is to give us a >chance to socialize with other women who attend the IETF, and to offer >mutual support in our IETF activities. > > > > > > > > >On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen > wrote: > >I do agree that it can be beneficial for groups to be able to talk >amongst themselves to have a safe environment. One of the themes I have >been hearing in the diversity work is that the hardest thing to do is to >change a culture to open up the group to diversity. > >For the women's list and gatherings, I do think it is important that >there is a space for them to communicate and discuss ideas before >surfacing them elsewhere, to Arturo's point. Broad lists, like the main >IETF one would be very hard for women to openly discuss > ideas as culturally, there is a difference in communication styles and I >think many would fear being shot down while they were still shaping >ideas. I think there is some value in a group being able to work >together and help each other to develop ideas before > presenting them elsewhere (to David's point on ensuring the IETF as a >whole understands issues). > >Various studies point to shifts in the culture or the point at which >minority groups become comfortable voicing opinions. Studies that look >at board members for organizations have observed that one woman is a good >start, but doesn't have that much effect. > Two is better, but with this number, they will often limit their >interactions with each other for fear that it may be seen as them >colluding. Three seems to be the turning point where they start to have >an impact and influence and will collaborate with each > other. > >The book Lean In suggests that we have to get to 50% for both leadership >and members before there is a true cultural shift where it no longer >matters if you are a woman or man in the environment. I am not sure if >this comes from Lean In or something else I > read (or session I attended), but it takes about 100 years from the >start of any movement for it to be a non-issue anymore... so we have a >ways to go still. > >The Executive Women's Forum is a good example of a women's group. They >do allow anyone to attend their events and some of us make a point of >bringing male colleagues. The Simmon's Women's conference, while is >mostly attended by women, does not exclude and > you do see some male executives or others interested in the topics >discussed attending events. > >I don't think we have reached a tipping point yet, but hope we do at some >point ;-) > >Thanks, >Kathleen > > >-----Original Message----- >From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:29 PM >To: Carlos M. Martinez >Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women > >On 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > >> In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open but >> special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the resident >> moderators. > >Nothing says that such lists need to be hosted at >ietf.org (where people >who are excluded have a basis to complain about all sorts of processes >and procedures defined in various RFCs). Arturo reports that there is a >non-IETF list where people who like to participate in the IETF can talk >amongst themselves in Spanish and Portuguese. That seems like a better >model to follow in such cases. After all, it's easy enough to buy a >domain, install mailing list software, and start a discussion list (or >use a public mailing list service). > >Peter > >-- >Peter Saint-Andre >https://stpeter.im/ > > >_______________________________________________ >87attendees mailing list >87attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > >_______________________________________________ >87attendees mailing list >87attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > > > > From jana.iyengar@gmail.com Mon Jul 15 23:33:12 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDA921E81A8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:33:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1jromHsQWMqZ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x235.google.com (mail-wg0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A1B11E80A2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id y10so238915wgg.32 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:32:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=41ZytfAJYkKiUDjDBhw5bA43WA01+C78uYABrq7dGN4=; b=zWiNT3e4UtYSXZDHaxmOiskykApf8ByjtJNJQTmf3DmwIL8i7hbFQ6ro/MFbHAG2FA jGfx/hnuTUbOIbCOvl5LGa9xxIv4TQ3HL3jdyb0FN2CFzvXisVwroFM9XAg0KS1G+vnN bBEktaiUhk+VgjzNyvKcu5F1uuDc5FOOGkVTlTvIu0RWmCEIsTYGqoBVLh9bCZTYQFRP 8LCw4Mx7318I98C5VDoeSyCnTE8wofP1QcSlMZK1QsWEK1vKw2+95/UPKZyYVaPLSWTy Xy8KjSKIFig2wo4GsQMLudxKnJLrkkc5CouIYd4RO95X+LDFZdsu+u10J3DFYLSP+zsA pIlg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.188.36 with SMTP id fx4mr11023513wic.55.1373956378964; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.71.6 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 23:32:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 02:32:58 -0400 Message-ID: From: Janardhan Iyengar To: Dan Harkins Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c25cd8e7b94704e19b25d9 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, CJ Aronson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:33:13 -0000 --001a11c25cd8e7b94704e19b25d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The existence or rationale for the systers list is not something that IETFers are being asked to weigh in on at this time. The problem of a minority needing a separate communication channel is most certainly not a contentious one. Self-organizing happens, and again, is not contentious. That women in technology in general (and in the IETF in particular) are a minority is a well established fact, and is not contentious either. Seriously, why is there even a discussion here? - jana On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Dan Harkins wrote: > > > On 7/15/13 11:46 AM, "CJ Aronson" wrote: > > >Systers has been around for a very long time. Here is a summary from the > >website of systers.. Super duper threatening to all you martians out > >there I am sure.. > > Oh sarcasm! And here I thought there was a "difference in communication > styles" that the systers needed to refine on their list for "fear being > shot down" on the main IETF one. Don't fear Cathy, you can be "comfortable > voicing opinions" with that ever-popular rhetorical device. > > If it's not super duper threatening then why are the archives closed? > > Dan. > > > > >----Cathy > > > > > >About systersEnglish (USA)This list is used to organize women's lunches > >(and similar gatherings) > >at IETF meetings. The purpose of these gatherings is to give us a > >chance to socialize with other women who attend the IETF, and to offer > >mutual support in our IETF activities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen > > wrote: > > > >I do agree that it can be beneficial for groups to be able to talk > >amongst themselves to have a safe environment. One of the themes I have > >been hearing in the diversity work is that the hardest thing to do is to > >change a culture to open up the group to diversity. > > > >For the women's list and gatherings, I do think it is important that > >there is a space for them to communicate and discuss ideas before > >surfacing them elsewhere, to Arturo's point. Broad lists, like the main > >IETF one would be very hard for women to openly discuss > > ideas as culturally, there is a difference in communication styles and I > >think many would fear being shot down while they were still shaping > >ideas. I think there is some value in a group being able to work > >together and help each other to develop ideas before > > presenting them elsewhere (to David's point on ensuring the IETF as a > >whole understands issues). > > > >Various studies point to shifts in the culture or the point at which > >minority groups become comfortable voicing opinions. Studies that look > >at board members for organizations have observed that one woman is a good > >start, but doesn't have that much effect. > > Two is better, but with this number, they will often limit their > >interactions with each other for fear that it may be seen as them > >colluding. Three seems to be the turning point where they start to have > >an impact and influence and will collaborate with each > > other. > > > >The book Lean In suggests that we have to get to 50% for both leadership > >and members before there is a true cultural shift where it no longer > >matters if you are a woman or man in the environment. I am not sure if > >this comes from Lean In or something else I > > read (or session I attended), but it takes about 100 years from the > >start of any movement for it to be a non-issue anymore... so we have a > >ways to go still. > > > >The Executive Women's Forum is a good example of a women's group. They > >do allow anyone to attend their events and some of us make a point of > >bringing male colleagues. The Simmon's Women's conference, while is > >mostly attended by women, does not exclude and > > you do see some male executives or others interested in the topics > >discussed attending events. > > > >I don't think we have reached a tipping point yet, but hope we do at some > >point ;-) > > > >Thanks, > >Kathleen > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > >On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre > >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:29 PM > >To: Carlos M. Martinez > >Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org > >Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women > > > >On 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > > > >> In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open but > >> special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the resident > >> moderators. > > > >Nothing says that such lists need to be hosted at > >ietf.org (where people > >who are excluded have a basis to complain about all sorts of processes > >and procedures defined in various RFCs). Arturo reports that there is a > >non-IETF list where people who like to participate in the IETF can talk > >amongst themselves in Spanish and Portuguese. That seems like a better > >model to follow in such cases. After all, it's easy enough to buy a > >domain, install mailing list software, and start a discussion list (or > >use a public mailing list service). > > > >Peter > > > >-- > >Peter Saint-Andre > >https://stpeter.im/ > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >87attendees mailing list > >87attendees@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > >_______________________________________________ > >87attendees mailing list > >87attendees@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > --001a11c25cd8e7b94704e19b25d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The existence or rationale for the systers list is no= t something that IETFers are being asked to weigh in on at this time. The p= roblem of a minority needing a separate communication channel is most certa= inly not a contentious one. Self-organizing happens, and again, is not cont= entious. That women in technology in general (and in the IETF in particular= ) are a minority is a well established fact, and is not contentious either.= =A0

Seriously, why is there even a discussion here?

- jana

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Dan Harkins = <dharkins@arubanetworks.com> wrote:


On 7/15/13 11:46 AM, "CJ Aronson" <cja@daydream.com> wrote:

>Systers has been around for a very long time. =A0Here is a summary from= the
>website of systers.. Super duper threatening to all you martians out >there I am sure..

=A0 Oh sarcasm! And here I thought there was a "difference in co= mmunication
styles" that the systers needed to refine on their list for "fear= being
shot down" on the main IETF one. Don't fear Cathy, you can be &quo= t;comfortable
voicing opinions" with that ever-popular rhetorical device.

=A0 If it's not super duper threatening then why are the archives close= d?

=A0 Dan.

>
>----Cathy
>
>
>About systersEnglish (USA)This list is used to organize women's lun= ches
>(and similar gatherings)
>at IETF meetings. The purpose of these gatherings is to give us a
>chance to socialize with other women who attend the IETF, and to offer<= br> >mutual support in our IETF activities.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen
><kathleen.moriarty@emc.= com> wrote:
>
>I do agree that it can be beneficial for groups to be able to talk
>amongst themselves to have a safe environment. =A0One of the themes I h= ave
>been hearing in the diversity work is that the hardest thing to do is t= o
>change a culture to open up the group to diversity.
>
>For the women's list and gatherings, I do think it is important tha= t
>there is a space for them to communicate and discuss ideas before
>surfacing them elsewhere, to Arturo's point. =A0Broad lists, like t= he main
>IETF one would be very hard for women to openly discuss
> ideas as culturally, there is a difference in communication styles and= I
>think many would fear being shot down while they were still shaping
>ideas. =A0I think there is some value in a group being able to work
>together and help each other to develop ideas before
> presenting them elsewhere (to David's point on ensuring the IETF a= s a
>whole understands issues).
>
>Various studies point to shifts in the culture or the point at which >minority groups become comfortable voicing opinions. =A0Studies that lo= ok
>at board members for organizations have observed that one woman is a go= od
>start, but doesn't have that much effect.
> =A0Two is better, but with this number, they will often limit their >interactions with each other for fear that it may be seen as them
>colluding. =A0Three seems to be the turning point where they start to h= ave
>an impact and influence and will collaborate with each
> other.
>
>The book Lean In suggests that we have to get to 50% for both leadershi= p
>and members before there is a true cultural shift where it no longer >matters if you are a woman or man in the environment. =A0I am not sure = if
>this comes from Lean In or something else I
> read (or session I attended), but it takes about 100 years from the >start of any movement for it to be a non-issue anymore... so we have a<= br> >ways to go still.
>
>The Executive Women's Forum is a good example of a women's grou= p. =A0They
>do allow anyone to attend their events and some of us make a point of >bringing male colleagues. =A0The Simmon's Women's conference, w= hile is
>mostly attended by women, does not exclude and
> you do see some male executives or others interested in the topics
>discussed attending events.
>
>I don't think we have reached a tipping point yet, but hope we do a= t some
>point ;-)
>
>Thanks,
>Kathleen
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: 87attendees-bounc= es@ietf.org [mailto:87a= ttendees-bounces@ietf.org]
>On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
>Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:29 PM
>To: Carlos M. Martinez
>Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women
>
>On 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
>
>> In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open bu= t
>> special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the re= sident
>> moderators.
>
>Nothing says that such lists need to be hosted at
>ietf.org = <http://ietf.org> (= where people
>who are excluded have a basis t= o complain about all sorts of processes
>and procedures defined in various RFCs). Arturo reports that there is a=
>non-IETF list where people who like to participate in the IETF can talk=
>amongst themselves in Spanish and Portuguese. That seems like a better<= br> >model to follow in such cases. After all, it's easy enough to buy a=
>domain, install mailing list software, and start a discussion list (or<= br> >use a public mailing list service).
>
>Peter
>
>--
>Peter Saint-Andre
>https://stpeter.im/
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>87attendees mailing list
>87attendees@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees
>
>_______________________________________________
>87attendees mailing list
>87attendees@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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--001a11c25cd8e7b94704e19b25d9-- From klaas@wierenga.net Tue Jul 16 00:37:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1BC21F85D1 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:37:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JBuSz5UxmtYV for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out23-ams.mf.surf.net (out23-ams.mf.surf.net [145.0.1.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BD321F8756 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teletubbie.het.net.je (teletubbie.het.net.je [192.87.110.29]) by outgoing1-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id r6G7bBW6017262; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:37:11 +0200 Received: from 5355139f.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.85.19.159] helo=[192.168.1.238]) by teletubbie.het.net.je with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UyzoX-0001QL-0l; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:36:49 +0200 References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> <9BF25649-32AC-4654-BA3C-1B9240042A2A@cdt.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <9BF25649-32AC-4654-BA3C-1B9240042A2A@cdt.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: Klaas Wierenga Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:37:12 +0200 To: Alissa Cooper X-Antivirus: no malware found X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=192.87.110.29; country=NL; latitude=52.5000; longitude=5.7500; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5000,5.7500&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: p-out:default (inherits from p:default,base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0uK0TBbe1 - c18186af5b73 - 20130716 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:37:41 -0000 Alissa, On 15 jul. 2013, at 20:18, Alissa Cooper wrote: > The systers list is not new. It was created years ago and has long been a u= seful tool for communication among IETF women. Prior to several recent IETF m= eetings, a reminder about the list's existence has been sent to the meeting'= s attendee list to inform new and experienced participants about the existen= ce of the list. >=20 > No one is explicitly prevented from joining the list. It is primarily used= to provide mutual support to women who participate in the IETF and to discu= ss women's events and activities.=20 That answer is perfectly satisfying to me. I don't like lists *within* the I= ETF that are closed for people from a certain race, sexual orientation, gend= er or whatever. I have no issue with any list being created, be it around a c= ertain technical topic, or anything else. As long as nobody that believes he= or she can contribute in a meaningful way is prevented from doing so. Klaas P.S. I was aware of the existence of the systers list, I have women among my= best friends :-) >=20 > Regards, > Alissa >=20 > On Jul 15, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote: >=20 >> For new attendees or others that are not aware, there is a mailing list f= or IETF women, known as "systers." We very much welcome new and experienced= IETF participants to join the list: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/s= ysters >>=20 >> Regards, >> Alissa >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From shanna@juniper.net Tue Jul 16 03:30:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 234A421F9E1E for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 03:30:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.086, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, UNRESOLVED_TEMPLATE=3.132, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GM3g-3KFBp15 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:29:37 +0000 Received: from SN2PRD0510MB372.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.9.2]) by SN2PRD0510HT004.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.116.39]) with mapi id 14.16.0329.000; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:29:36 +0000 From: Stephen Hanna To: Janardhan Iyengar , Dan Harkins Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women Thread-Index: AQHOgXDLDJtOHR9Cv0muQ8WPvaEQOJll8wKAgAAGcQCAAAN8AIAAAd0AgAAPq4CAAAXMAIAApQKAgAAgeACAAEDB8A== Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:29:36 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [66.129.232.2] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F1DFC16DCAA7D3468651A5A776D5796E1AAA6576SN2PRD0510MB372_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%GMAIL.COM$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%ARUBANETWORKS.COM$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%DAYDREAM.COM$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, CJ Aronson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:30:10 -0000 --_000_F1DFC16DCAA7D3468651A5A776D5796E1AAA6576SN2PRD0510MB372_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys. Don't be jerks. Live and let live. This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile place.= Unfortunately, that view is accurate. Thanks, Steve From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Janardhan Iyengar Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:33 AM To: Dan Harkins Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; CJ Aronson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women The existence or rationale for the systers list is not something that IETFe= rs are being asked to weigh in on at this time. The problem of a minority n= eeding a separate communication channel is most certainly not a contentious= one. Self-organizing happens, and again, is not contentious. That women in= technology in general (and in the IETF in particular) are a minority is a = well established fact, and is not contentious either. Seriously, why is there even a discussion here? - jana On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Dan Harkins > wrote: On 7/15/13 11:46 AM, "CJ Aronson" > wrote: >Systers has been around for a very long time. Here is a summary from the >website of systers.. Super duper threatening to all you martians out >there I am sure.. Oh sarcasm! And here I thought there was a "difference in communication styles" that the systers needed to refine on their list for "fear being shot down" on the main IETF one. Don't fear Cathy, you can be "comfortable voicing opinions" with that ever-popular rhetorical device. If it's not super duper threatening then why are the archives closed? Dan. > >----Cathy > > >About systersEnglish (USA)This list is used to organize women's lunches >(and similar gatherings) >at IETF meetings. The purpose of these gatherings is to give us a >chance to socialize with other women who attend the IETF, and to offer >mutual support in our IETF activities. > > > > > > > > >On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen >> wrote: > >I do agree that it can be beneficial for groups to be able to talk >amongst themselves to have a safe environment. One of the themes I have >been hearing in the diversity work is that the hardest thing to do is to >change a culture to open up the group to diversity. > >For the women's list and gatherings, I do think it is important that >there is a space for them to communicate and discuss ideas before >surfacing them elsewhere, to Arturo's point. Broad lists, like the main >IETF one would be very hard for women to openly discuss > ideas as culturally, there is a difference in communication styles and I >think many would fear being shot down while they were still shaping >ideas. I think there is some value in a group being able to work >together and help each other to develop ideas before > presenting them elsewhere (to David's point on ensuring the IETF as a >whole understands issues). > >Various studies point to shifts in the culture or the point at which >minority groups become comfortable voicing opinions. Studies that look >at board members for organizations have observed that one woman is a good >start, but doesn't have that much effect. > Two is better, but with this number, they will often limit their >interactions with each other for fear that it may be seen as them >colluding. Three seems to be the turning point where they start to have >an impact and influence and will collaborate with each > other. > >The book Lean In suggests that we have to get to 50% for both leadership >and members before there is a true cultural shift where it no longer >matters if you are a woman or man in the environment. I am not sure if >this comes from Lean In or something else I > read (or session I attended), but it takes about 100 years from the >start of any movement for it to be a non-issue anymore... so we have a >ways to go still. > >The Executive Women's Forum is a good example of a women's group. They >do allow anyone to attend their events and some of us make a point of >bringing male colleagues. The Simmon's Women's conference, while is >mostly attended by women, does not exclude and > you do see some male executives or others interested in the topics >discussed attending events. > >I don't think we have reached a tipping point yet, but hope we do at some >point ;-) > >Thanks, >Kathleen > > >-----Original Message----- >From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [m= ailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:29 PM >To: Carlos M. Martinez >Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women > >On 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > >> In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open but >> special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the resident >> moderators. > >Nothing says that such lists need to be hosted at >ietf.org (where people >who are excluded have a basis to complain about all sorts of processes >and procedures defined in various RFCs). Arturo reports that there is a >non-IETF list where people who like to participate in the IETF can talk >amongst themselves in Spanish and Portuguese. That seems like a better >model to follow in such cases. After all, it's easy enough to buy a >domain, install mailing list software, and start a discussion list (or >use a public mailing list service). > >Peter > >-- >Peter Saint-Andre >https://stpeter.im/ > > >_______________________________________________ >87attendees mailing list >87attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > >_______________________________________________ >87attendees mailing list >87attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --_000_F1DFC16DCAA7D3468651A5A776D5796E1AAA6576SN2PRD0510MB372_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hear, hear. Just quiet do= wn, guys. Don’t be jerks. Live and let live.

 <= /p>

This sort of reaction is = the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile place. Unfortunately, that view= is accurate.

 <= /p>

Thanks,=

 <= /p>

Steve

 <= /p>

From: 87attend= ees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Janardhan Iyengar
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:33 AM
To: Dan Harkins
Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; CJ Aronson
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women

 

The existence or rationale for the systers list is n= ot something that IETFers are being asked to weigh in on at this time. The = problem of a minority needing a separate communication channel is most cert= ainly not a contentious one. Self-organizing happens, and again, is not contentious. That women in technology in genera= l (and in the IETF in particular) are a minority is a well established fact= , and is not contentious either. 

 

Seriously, why is there even a discussion here?=

 

- jana

 

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Dan Harkins <dharkins@arub= anetworks.com> wrote:



On 7/15/13 11:46 AM, "CJ Aronson" <cja@daydream.com> wrote:

>Systers has been around for a very long time.  Here is a summary f= rom the
>website of systers.. Super duper threatening to all you martians out >there I am sure..

  Oh sarcasm! And here I thought there was a &q= uot;difference in communication
styles" that the systers needed to refine on their list for "fear= being
shot down" on the main IETF one. Don't fear Cathy, you can be "co= mfortable
voicing opinions" with that ever-popular rhetorical device.

  If it's not super duper threatening then why are the archives closed= ?

  Dan.

>
>----Cathy
>
>
>About systersEnglish (USA)This list is used to organize women's lunches=

>(and similar gatherings)
>at IETF meetings. The purpose of these gatherings is to give us a
>chance to socialize with other women who attend the IETF, and to offer<= br> >mutual support in our IETF activities.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen
><kathleen.moriarty@emc.= com> wrote:
>
>I do agree that it can be beneficial for groups to be able to talk
>amongst themselves to have a safe environment.  One of the themes = I have
>been hearing in the diversity work is that the hardest thing to do is t= o
>change a culture to open up the group to diversity.
>
>For the women's list and gatherings, I do think it is important that >there is a space for them to communicate and discuss ideas before
>surfacing them elsewhere, to Arturo's point.  Broad lists, like th= e main
>IETF one would be very hard for women to openly discuss
> ideas as culturally, there is a difference in communication styles and= I
>think many would fear being shot down while they were still shaping
>ideas.  I think there is some value in a group being able to work<= br> >together and help each other to develop ideas before
> presenting them elsewhere (to David's point on ensuring the IETF as a<= br> >whole understands issues).
>
>Various studies point to shifts in the culture or the point at which >minority groups become comfortable voicing opinions.  Studies that= look
>at board members for organizations have observed that one woman is a go= od
>start, but doesn't have that much effect.
>  Two is better, but with this number, they will often limit their=
>interactions with each other for fear that it may be seen as them
>colluding.  Three seems to be the turning point where they start t= o have
>an impact and influence and will collaborate with each
> other.
>
>The book Lean In suggests that we have to get to 50% for both leadershi= p
>and members before there is a true cultural shift where it no longer >matters if you are a woman or man in the environment.  I am not su= re if
>this comes from Lean In or something else I
> read (or session I attended), but it takes about 100 years from the >start of any movement for it to be a non-issue anymore... so we have a<= br> >ways to go still.
>
>The Executive Women's Forum is a good example of a women's group.  = ;They
>do allow anyone to attend their events and some of us make a point of >bringing male colleagues.  The Simmon's Women's conference, while = is
>mostly attended by women, does not exclude and
> you do see some male executives or others interested in the topics
>discussed attending events.
>
>I don't think we have reached a tipping point yet, but hope we do at so= me
>point ;-)
>
>Thanks,
>Kathleen
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: 87attendees-bounc= es@ietf.org [mailto:87a= ttendees-bounces@ietf.org]
>On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
>Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:29 PM
>To: Carlos M. Martinez
>Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women
>
>On 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
>
>> In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open bu= t
>> special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the re= sident
>> moderators.
>
>Nothing says that such lists need to be hosted at

>ie= tf.org <http://ietf.or= g> (where people

>who are excluded have a basis to complain about = all sorts of processes
>and procedures defined in various RFCs). Arturo reports that there is a=
>non-IETF list where people who like to participate in the IETF can talk=
>amongst themselves in Spanish and Portuguese. That seems like a better<= br> >model to follow in such cases. After all, it's easy enough to buy a
>domain, install mailing list software, and start a discussion list (or<= br> >use a public mailing list service).
>
>Peter
>
>--
>Peter Saint-Andre
>https://stpeter.im/
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>87attendees mailing list
>87attendees@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees
>
>_______________________________________________
>87attendees mailing list
>87attendees@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees
>
>
>
>
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--_000_F1DFC16DCAA7D3468651A5A776D5796E1AAA6576SN2PRD0510MB372_-- From aservin@lacnic.net Tue Jul 16 05:01:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568B221E809B for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:01:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.305 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.305 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.788, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AusgY8aD20vp for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10D921E8095 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Arturos-MacBook-Pro.local (ip-64-134-184-148.public.wayport.net [64.134.184.148]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7017D30846B; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:00:56 -0300 (UYT) Message-ID: <51E53608.3020904@lacnic.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:01:12 -0500 From: Arturo Servin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Hanna References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030904010209010603000700" X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: aservin@lacnic.net Cc: Janardhan Iyengar , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Dan Harkins , CJ Aronson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:01:40 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030904010209010603000700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7/16/13 5:29 AM, Stephen Hanna wrote: > > Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys > +1 > > Don't be jerks. > +1 > > Live and let live. > +1 > > > > This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile > place. > +1 > > Unfortunately, that view is accurate. > +1 > > > > Thanks, > > > > Steve > --------------030904010209010603000700 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 7/16/13 5:29 AM, Stephen Hanna wrote:

Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys

+1

Don’t be jerks.

+1

Live and let live.

+1

 

This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile place.

+1

Unfortunately, that view is accurate.

+1

 

Thanks,

 

Steve


--------------030904010209010603000700-- From carlos@lacnic.net Tue Jul 16 05:12:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC82D21E805A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:12:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.518 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.518 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_HOST_EQ_D_D_D_D=0.765, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311, RCVD_IN_PBL=0.905, RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NpIh4frjkp0O for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B18F21E8095 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bonaire.local (ip-64-134-184-148.public.wayport.net [64.134.184.148]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC44308476; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:11:29 -0300 (UYT) Message-ID: <51E5387F.5030402@lacnic.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:11:43 -0400 From: "Carlos M. Martinez" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alissa Cooper References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org> <9BF25649-32AC-4654-BA3C-1B9240042A2A@cdt.org> In-Reply-To: <9BF25649-32AC-4654-BA3C-1B9240042A2A@cdt.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: carlos@lacnic.net Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:12:17 -0000 Thanks for your answer Alissa! cheers Carlos On 7/15/13 2:18 PM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > The systers list is not new. It was created years ago and has long been a useful tool for communication among IETF women. Prior to several recent IETF meetings, a reminder about the list's existence has been sent to the meeting's attendee list to inform new and experienced participants about the existence of the list. > > No one is explicitly prevented from joining the list. It is primarily used to provide mutual support to women who participate in the IETF and to discuss women's events and activities. > > Regards, > Alissa > > On Jul 15, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Alissa Cooper wrote: > >> For new attendees or others that are not aware, there is a mailing list for IETF women, known as "systers." We very much welcome new and experienced IETF participants to join the list: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/systers >> >> Regards, >> Alissa >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From david.black@emc.com Tue Jul 16 05:58:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3345D21F8265 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:58:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vq-wK-sbQ-m2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:58:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (hop-nat-141.emc.com [168.159.213.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F4AE21F85D1 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 05:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si01.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI01.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.54]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id r6GCvLSu001733 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:57:21 -0400 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (mailhubhoprd01.lss.emc.com [10.254.221.251]) by hop04-l1d11-si01.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:57:02 -0400 Received: from mxhub29.corp.emc.com (mxhub29.corp.emc.com [128.222.70.169]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id r6GCv1Vp028734; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:57:01 -0400 Received: from mx15a.corp.emc.com ([169.254.1.184]) by mxhub29.corp.emc.com ([128.222.70.169]) with mapi; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:57:00 -0400 From: "Black, David" To: Stephen Hanna Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 08:56:59 -0400 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women Thread-Index: AQHOgXDLDJtOHR9Cv0muQ8WPvaEQOJll8wKAgAAGcQCAAAN8AIAAAd0AgAAPq4CAAAXMAIAApQKAgAAgeACAAEDB8IAAKm0g Message-ID: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE712983F368B@MX15A.corp.emc.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE712983F368BMX15Acorpemccom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EMM-MHVC: 1 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:58:11 -0000 --_000_8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE712983F368BMX15Acorpemccom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 --David From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Stephen Hanna Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:30 AM To: Janardhan Iyengar; Dan Harkins Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; CJ Aronson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys. Don't be jerks. Live and let live. This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile place.= Unfortunately, that view is accurate. Thanks, Steve From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Janardhan Iyengar Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:33 AM To: Dan Harkins Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; CJ Aronson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women The existence or rationale for the systers list is not something that IETFe= rs are being asked to weigh in on at this time. The problem of a minority n= eeding a separate communication channel is most certainly not a contentious= one. Self-organizing happens, and again, is not contentious. That women in= technology in general (and in the IETF in particular) are a minority is a = well established fact, and is not contentious either. Seriously, why is there even a discussion here? - jana On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Dan Harkins > wrote: On 7/15/13 11:46 AM, "CJ Aronson" > wrote: >Systers has been around for a very long time. Here is a summary from the >website of systers.. Super duper threatening to all you martians out >there I am sure.. Oh sarcasm! And here I thought there was a "difference in communication styles" that the systers needed to refine on their list for "fear being shot down" on the main IETF one. Don't fear Cathy, you can be "comfortable voicing opinions" with that ever-popular rhetorical device. If it's not super duper threatening then why are the archives closed? Dan. > >----Cathy > > >About systersEnglish (USA)This list is used to organize women's lunches >(and similar gatherings) >at IETF meetings. The purpose of these gatherings is to give us a >chance to socialize with other women who attend the IETF, and to offer >mutual support in our IETF activities. > > > > > > > > >On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen >> wrote: > >I do agree that it can be beneficial for groups to be able to talk >amongst themselves to have a safe environment. One of the themes I have >been hearing in the diversity work is that the hardest thing to do is to >change a culture to open up the group to diversity. > >For the women's list and gatherings, I do think it is important that >there is a space for them to communicate and discuss ideas before >surfacing them elsewhere, to Arturo's point. Broad lists, like the main >IETF one would be very hard for women to openly discuss > ideas as culturally, there is a difference in communication styles and I >think many would fear being shot down while they were still shaping >ideas. I think there is some value in a group being able to work >together and help each other to develop ideas before > presenting them elsewhere (to David's point on ensuring the IETF as a >whole understands issues). > >Various studies point to shifts in the culture or the point at which >minority groups become comfortable voicing opinions. Studies that look >at board members for organizations have observed that one woman is a good >start, but doesn't have that much effect. > Two is better, but with this number, they will often limit their >interactions with each other for fear that it may be seen as them >colluding. Three seems to be the turning point where they start to have >an impact and influence and will collaborate with each > other. > >The book Lean In suggests that we have to get to 50% for both leadership >and members before there is a true cultural shift where it no longer >matters if you are a woman or man in the environment. I am not sure if >this comes from Lean In or something else I > read (or session I attended), but it takes about 100 years from the >start of any movement for it to be a non-issue anymore... so we have a >ways to go still. > >The Executive Women's Forum is a good example of a women's group. They >do allow anyone to attend their events and some of us make a point of >bringing male colleagues. The Simmon's Women's conference, while is >mostly attended by women, does not exclude and > you do see some male executives or others interested in the topics >discussed attending events. > >I don't think we have reached a tipping point yet, but hope we do at some >point ;-) > >Thanks, >Kathleen > > >-----Original Message----- >From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [m= ailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:29 PM >To: Carlos M. Martinez >Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women > >On 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > >> In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open but >> special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the resident >> moderators. > >Nothing says that such lists need to be hosted at >ietf.org (where people >who are excluded have a basis to complain about all sorts of processes >and procedures defined in various RFCs). Arturo reports that there is a >non-IETF list where people who like to participate in the IETF can talk >amongst themselves in Spanish and Portuguese. That seems like a better >model to follow in such cases. After all, it's easy enough to buy a >domain, install mailing list software, and start a discussion list (or >use a public mailing list service). > >Peter > >-- >Peter Saint-Andre >https://stpeter.im/ > > >_______________________________________________ >87attendees mailing list >87attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > >_______________________________________________ >87attendees mailing list >87attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --_000_8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE712983F368BMX15Acorpemccom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

+1=

 

--David

 

From: 87attendees-bo= unces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of St= ephen Hanna
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:30 AM
To: Ja= nardhan Iyengar; Dan Harkins
Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; CJ Aronson=
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women

 

Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys. Don’t be jerks= . Live and let live.

 

This sort of reaction i= s the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile place. Unfortunately, that vi= ew is accurate.

 = ;

Thanks,

=

 

Steve

 =

From: 87attendee= s-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Janardhan Iyengar
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:33 AM
To= : Dan Harkins
Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; CJ Aronson
Subj= ect: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women

 

The existence or rationale for the systers list is not somethi= ng that IETFers are being asked to weigh in on at this time. The problem of= a minority needing a separate communication channel is most certainly not = a contentious one. Self-organizing happens, and again, is not contentious. = That women in technology in general (and in the IETF in particular) are a m= inority is a well established fact, and is not contentious either. 

 

Seriously, why is there even a discussion here?<= /o:p>

 

- jana

 

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Dan Harkins <dharkins@arubanetworks.com= > wrote:



On 7/15/13 11:46 AM, "CJ Aronson" <cja@daydream.com> wrote:

>Systers= has been around for a very long time.  Here is a summary from the
= >website of systers.. Super duper threatening to all you martians out>there I am sure..

  Oh s= arcasm! And here I thought there was a "difference in communicationstyles" that the systers needed to refine on their list for "fea= r being
shot down" on the main IETF one. Don't fear Cathy, you can = be "comfortable
voicing opinions" with that ever-popular rheto= rical device.

  If it's not super duper threatening then why ar= e the archives closed?

  Dan.

>
>----Cathy
&= gt;
>
>About systersEnglish (USA)This list is used to organize = women's lunches

>(and simil= ar gatherings)
>at IETF meetings. The purpose of these gatherings is = to give us a
>chance to socialize with other women who attend the IET= F, and to offer
>mutual support in our IETF activities.
>
&g= t;
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Jul 15, 2= 013 at 12:25 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen
><kathleen.moriarty@emc.com> wrote:
>
>I = do agree that it can be beneficial for groups to be able to talk
>amo= ngst themselves to have a safe environment.  One of the themes I have<= br>>been hearing in the diversity work is that the hardest thing to do i= s to
>change a culture to open up the group to diversity.
>
= >For the women's list and gatherings, I do think it is important that>there is a space for them to communicate and discuss ideas before
&= gt;surfacing them elsewhere, to Arturo's point.  Broad lists, like the= main
>IETF one would be very hard for women to openly discuss
>= ; ideas as culturally, there is a difference in communication styles and I<= br>>think many would fear being shot down while they were still shaping<= br>>ideas.  I think there is some value in a group being able to wo= rk
>together and help each other to develop ideas before
> pres= enting them elsewhere (to David's point on ensuring the IETF as a
>wh= ole understands issues).
>
>Various studies point to shifts in = the culture or the point at which
>minority groups become comfortable= voicing opinions.  Studies that look
>at board members for orga= nizations have observed that one woman is a good
>start, but doesn't = have that much effect.
>  Two is better, but with this number, t= hey will often limit their
>interactions with each other for fear tha= t it may be seen as them
>colluding.  Three seems to be the turn= ing point where they start to have
>an impact and influence and will = collaborate with each
> other.
>
>The book Lean In sugges= ts that we have to get to 50% for both leadership
>and members before= there is a true cultural shift where it no longer
>matters if you ar= e a woman or man in the environment.  I am not sure if
>this com= es from Lean In or something else I
> read (or session I attended), b= ut it takes about 100 years from the
>start of any movement for it to= be a non-issue anymore... so we have a
>ways to go still.
>>The Executive Women's Forum is a good example of a women's group. &nbs= p;They
>do allow anyone to attend their events and some of us make a = point of
>bringing male colleagues.  The Simmon's Women's confer= ence, while is
>mostly attended by women, does not exclude and
>= ; you do see some male executives or others interested in the topics
>= ;discussed attending events.
>
>I don't think we have reached a= tipping point yet, but hope we do at some
>point ;-)
>
>= Thanks,
>Kathleen
>
>
>-----Original Message----->From: 87attendees-bou= nces@ietf.org [mailto:8= 7attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
>On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
&= gt;Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:29 PM
>To: Carlos M. Martinez
>= ;Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org
&g= t;Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women
>
>On = 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
>
>> In my (agai= n, very personal) view, ML membership should be open but
>> specia= l-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the resident
>&= gt; moderators.
>
>Nothing says that such lists need to be host= ed at

>ietf.org <http://ietf.org> (where people

>who are excluded have a basis to complain about= all sorts of processes
>and procedures defined in various RFCs). Art= uro reports that there is a
>non-IETF list where people who like to p= articipate in the IETF can talk
>amongst themselves in Spanish and Po= rtuguese. That seems like a better
>model to follow in such cases. Af= ter all, it's easy enough to buy a
>domain, install mailing list soft= ware, and start a discussion list (or
>use a public mailing list serv= ice).
>
>Peter
>
>--
>Peter Saint-Andre
&g= t;https://stpeter.im/=
>
>
>_______________________________________________
= >87attendees mailing list
>87attendees@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo= /87attendees
>
>___________________________________________= ____
>87attendees mailing list
>87attendees@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/= listinfo/87attendees
>
>
>
>
>
>>

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= --_000_8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE712983F368BMX15Acorpemccom_-- From randy@psg.com Tue Jul 16 09:52:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CE821E808B for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:52:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Sir4AjCsULgf for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:418:8006::19]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADD021E8083 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz8TQ-00045d-JY; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:51:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 09:51:36 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Stephen Hanna In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, Dan Harkins Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:52:03 -0000 > Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys. Don't be jerks. Live and let live. and it is guys, isn't it. sigh. > This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile > place. Unfortunately, that view is accurate. dinosaurs do still roam the earth, and some of them seem to be on this list. i would not bother posting except it needs to be repeatedly made clear that male bad behavior from the '50s is just not acceptable any more. randy From kathleen.moriarty@emc.com Tue Jul 16 10:49:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4F421F9C7D for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:49:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.399, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Gz-1D+3biQ9k for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (hop-nat-141.emc.com [168.159.213.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D9021F9C55 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 10:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si04.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI04.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.24]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id r6GHmZKu003790 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:48:42 -0400 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (mailhubhoprd05.lss.emc.com [10.254.222.129]) by hop04-l1d11-si04.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:48:21 -0400 Received: from mxhub10.corp.emc.com (mxhub10.corp.emc.com [10.254.92.105]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id r6GHmLvC007760; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:48:21 -0400 Received: from mx15a.corp.emc.com ([169.254.1.184]) by mxhub10.corp.emc.com ([10.254.92.105]) with mapi; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:48:21 -0400 From: "Moriarty, Kathleen" To: Dan Harkins , CJ Aronson , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:44:36 -0400 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women Thread-Index: AQHOgXDEKonKu+Yvpk+2E3xBnO5yPJlmaFuAgAAGcQCAAAN7AIAAAd0AgAAPrICAAAXMAIAAL6gAgADcIbQ= Message-ID: References: , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EMM-MHVC: 1 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:49:02 -0000 Dan, There are always outliers that don't fit into the generalized buckets. I d= ebated even responding again as I am not sure it is worth it, walking away = is easier. However, I wanted to point out that a significant percentage of= women leave IT mid-career. It is much easier to walk away then to have to= continue dealing with stuff like this. I guess I am an outlier, and many = of the women who have stuck it out in the IETF are also outliers. It would= be great to have an environment where people wanted to engage in conversat= ions and not walk away from contentious comments (they should not happen, w= e could all be more constructive). Thank you in advance for future constructive discussions. Kathleen ________________________________________ From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf= Of Dan Harkins [dharkins@arubanetworks.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:36 AM To: CJ Aronson; 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women On 7/15/13 11:46 AM, "CJ Aronson" wrote: >Systers has been around for a very long time. Here is a summary from the >website of systers.. Super duper threatening to all you martians out >there I am sure.. Oh sarcasm! And here I thought there was a "difference in communication styles" that the systers needed to refine on their list for "fear being shot down" on the main IETF one. Don't fear Cathy, you can be "comfortable voicing opinions" with that ever-popular rhetorical device. If it's not super duper threatening then why are the archives closed? Dan. > >----Cathy > > >About systersEnglish (USA)This list is used to organize women's lunches >(and similar gatherings) >at IETF meetings. The purpose of these gatherings is to give us a >chance to socialize with other women who attend the IETF, and to offer >mutual support in our IETF activities. > > > > > > > > >On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Moriarty, Kathleen > wrote: > >I do agree that it can be beneficial for groups to be able to talk >amongst themselves to have a safe environment. One of the themes I have >been hearing in the diversity work is that the hardest thing to do is to >change a culture to open up the group to diversity. > >For the women's list and gatherings, I do think it is important that >there is a space for them to communicate and discuss ideas before >surfacing them elsewhere, to Arturo's point. Broad lists, like the main >IETF one would be very hard for women to openly discuss > ideas as culturally, there is a difference in communication styles and I >think many would fear being shot down while they were still shaping >ideas. I think there is some value in a group being able to work >together and help each other to develop ideas before > presenting them elsewhere (to David's point on ensuring the IETF as a >whole understands issues). > >Various studies point to shifts in the culture or the point at which >minority groups become comfortable voicing opinions. Studies that look >at board members for organizations have observed that one woman is a good >start, but doesn't have that much effect. > Two is better, but with this number, they will often limit their >interactions with each other for fear that it may be seen as them >colluding. Three seems to be the turning point where they start to have >an impact and influence and will collaborate with each > other. > >The book Lean In suggests that we have to get to 50% for both leadership >and members before there is a true cultural shift where it no longer >matters if you are a woman or man in the environment. I am not sure if >this comes from Lean In or something else I > read (or session I attended), but it takes about 100 years from the >start of any movement for it to be a non-issue anymore... so we have a >ways to go still. > >The Executive Women's Forum is a good example of a women's group. They >do allow anyone to attend their events and some of us make a point of >bringing male colleagues. The Simmon's Women's conference, while is >mostly attended by women, does not exclude and > you do see some male executives or others interested in the topics >discussed attending events. > >I don't think we have reached a tipping point yet, but hope we do at some >point ;-) > >Thanks, >Kathleen > > >-----Original Message----- >From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] >On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre >Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 1:29 PM >To: Carlos M. Martinez >Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org >Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women > >On 7/15/13 11:22 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > >> In my (again, very personal) view, ML membership should be open but >> special-interest discussion should be carefully enforced by the resident >> moderators. > >Nothing says that such lists need to be hosted at >ietf.org (where people >who are excluded have a basis to complain about all sorts of processes >and procedures defined in various RFCs). Arturo reports that there is a >non-IETF list where people who like to participate in the IETF can talk >amongst themselves in Spanish and Portuguese. That seems like a better >model to follow in such cases. After all, it's easy enough to buy a >domain, install mailing list software, and start a discussion list (or >use a public mailing list service). > >Peter > >-- >Peter Saint-Andre >https://stpeter.im/ > > >_______________________________________________ >87attendees mailing list >87attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > >_______________________________________________ >87attendees mailing list >87attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From klaas@wierenga.net Tue Jul 16 11:20:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D94C11E80F8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:20:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.203 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.203 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OuShndWeE4VF for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out49-ams.mf.surf.net (out49-ams.mf.surf.net [145.0.1.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C93D11E80FA for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teletubbie.het.net.je (teletubbie.het.net.je [192.87.110.29]) by outgoing2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id r6GIKWn3010545; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:20:32 +0200 Received: from 5355139f.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.85.19.159] helo=[192.168.1.238]) by teletubbie.het.net.je with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Uz9r7-0004tp-PO; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:20:09 +0200 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: Klaas Wierenga Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:20:31 +0200 To: Randy Bush X-Antivirus: no malware found X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=192.87.110.29; country=NL; latitude=52.5000; longitude=5.7500; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5000,5.7500&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: p-out:default (inherits from p:default,base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0vK16kweo - 9a8d3e77ba96 - 20130716 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, Dan Harkins , Stephen Hanna Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:20:54 -0000 Hi, I want to point out that I don't appreciate to be put in that category (if t= hat was the intention). I don't think it is a good idea to have *in the IETF*= mailing lists that are closed for people with certain characteristics. I th= ink segregation is bad, be it on skin color, sex, nationality or whatever, I= don't like the IETF to promote that. I think it is a valid question to ask w= hether a list is open or not. Allissa's answer was perfectly reasonable and I= would have left it at that. I can not help that others feel the need to mak= e snide remarks, but my question was a serious one. Klaas Sent from my iPad On 16 jul. 2013, at 18:51, Randy Bush wrote: >> Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys. Don't be jerks. Live and let live. >=20 > and it is guys, isn't it. sigh. >=20 >> This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile >> place. Unfortunately, that view is accurate. >=20 > dinosaurs do still roam the earth, and some of them seem to be on this > list. >=20 > i would not bother posting except it needs to be repeatedly made clear > that male bad behavior from the '50s is just not acceptable any more. >=20 > randy > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From klaas@wierenga.net Tue Jul 16 13:34:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7907421F9E98 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:34:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.053 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.053 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.150, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BQdX3jKuNEWI for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out21-ams.mf.surf.net (out21-ams.mf.surf.net [145.0.1.21]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA5121F9EC2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teletubbie.het.net.je (teletubbie.het.net.je [192.87.110.29]) by outgoing1-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id r6GKYAEn032549; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:34:10 +0200 Received: from 5355139f.cm-6-6a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.85.19.159] helo=[192.168.1.238]) by teletubbie.het.net.je with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UzBwR-0005YX-MQ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:33:47 +0200 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5E04C269-DB7D-42B5-811A-3ACEE8F1D57C@wierenga.net> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: Klaas Wierenga Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:34:09 +0200 To: =?utf-8?Q?Marie-Jos=C3=A9_Montpetit?= X-Antivirus: no malware found X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=192.87.110.29; country=NL; latitude=52.5000; longitude=5.7500; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5000,5.7500&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: p-out:default (inherits from p:default,base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0uK18yasL - 0b976b16d9d6 - 20130716 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) Cc: Randy Bush , 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, Stephen Hanna , Dan Harkins Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:34:27 -0000 Marie-Jose, On 16 jul. 2013, at 22:00, "Marie-Jos=C3=A9 Montpetit" wrote: > Please don't get carried away and mis-using vocabulary. There is a huge di= stinction between 'discrimination' and what this list wants to achieve. Gett= ing women together to exchange IETF experience and strategies is not discrim= ination it is mentoring. Like it was mentioned the IEFT is not a user frien= dly environment. And no one will prevent men from attending the IETF Indeed, not user friendly for anybody. I have seen newcomers be bullied too o= ften, I welcome efforts to change that. Just not sure creating closed groups= of minorities is the right thing. I didn't use the word discimination, I sa= id segregation. I don't like old-boys clubs anymore than systers clubs. I ho= pe that women don't feel the need to organize themselves anymore than baldin= g men like myself. And like I said, one of the things I like about the IETF i= s that anyone, regardless of affiliation can come and participate fully.=20 > because syster exists nor will men experiences at the IETF impacted in any= way. But the experience of women participants could be enhanced. I understand that. And if you forgive me the carried-away comparison, I also= understand that the men at the Augusta golf club feel much more at ease wit= hout women.... That doesn't mean it is right. >=20 > And other organizations also have women networks. Women in Engineering (WI= E) is very active in the IEEE for example. And as you know most universities= have clubs for minorities of all kinds (race, sex and religion). I know all that, like I said, I like the IETF to be inclusive, not exclusive= . It appears we have the same goal, we just disagree on the means (and to re= iterate, the fact that the mailing list is open takes away my hesitation) >=20 > Do you have a problem with the meeting for new IETF attendees? In your vie= w this should also be discriminating. Again, I didn't use the D-word. But no, I have no problem with the newcomers= intro, that is of another order, that is a qualitative criterium. I also do= n't have a problem not being on he IESG list.=20 >=20 > I am frankly surprised by the hostile tone of many comments on this thread= . I actually think the IETF should do more to encourage women (and minoritie= s) to participate.=20 I fully agree that the IETF should encourage wide participation, but let's n= ot create multiple IETFs, let's all talk in the breaks to each other rather= than lock ourselves in separate rooms and communicate over mailing lists fo= r "our people". I also don't understand the hostile tone, but don't think you can accuse me o= f that in any of my contributions to this discussion. Klaas >=20 > /mjm >=20 > Marie-Jos=C3=A9 Montpetit > mariejo@mit.edu >=20 > On Jul 16, 2013, at 14:20, Klaas Wierenga wrote: >=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> I want to point out that I don't appreciate to be put in that category (i= f that was the intention). I don't think it is a good idea to have *in the I= ETF* mailing lists that are closed for people with certain characteristics. I= think segregation is bad, be it on skin color, sex, nationality or whatever= , I don't like the IETF to promote that. I think it is a valid question to a= sk whether a list is open or not. Allissa's answer was perfectly reasonable a= nd I would have left it at that. I can not help that others feel the need to= make snide remarks, but my question was a serious one. >>=20 >> Klaas >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >> On 16 jul. 2013, at 18:51, Randy Bush wrote: >>=20 >>>> Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys. Don't be jerks. Live and let live. >>>=20 >>> and it is guys, isn't it. sigh. >>>=20 >>>> This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile >>>> place. Unfortunately, that view is accurate. >>>=20 >>> dinosaurs do still roam the earth, and some of them seem to be on this >>> list. >>>=20 >>> i would not bother posting except it needs to be repeatedly made clear >>> that male bad behavior from the '50s is just not acceptable any more. >>>=20 >>> randy >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 87attendees mailing list >>> 87attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From ajs@anvilwalrusden.com Tue Jul 16 13:52:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436EE11E80F8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:52:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.782 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.782 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.058, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_INFO=1.448, HOST_MISMATCH_NET=0.311] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eqB6t+5ZSsAl for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.yitter.info (ow5p.x.rootbsd.net [208.79.81.114]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7137B21F9F21 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.yitter.info (nat-08-mht.dyndns.com [216.146.45.247]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.yitter.info (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2A9908A031 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:52:01 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan To: 87attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20130716205201.GC26988@mx1.yitter.info> References: <5E04C269-DB7D-42B5-811A-3ACEE8F1D57C@wierenga.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5E04C269-DB7D-42B5-811A-3ACEE8F1D57C@wierenga.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:52:10 -0000 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:34:09PM +0200, Klaas Wierenga wrote: > > I hope that women don't feel the need to organize themselves anymore > than balding men like myself. I just know that I'm going to regret getting sucked into this conversation. Still, as soon as the people who keep complaining about these various side-lists (systers, food discussions, significant others, glbt, something-other-than-English) can explain to me why those interests are somehow in principle different from having special lists about RFC document format, or IPR rules, or why the IAB ought to be disbanded, I would find arguments such as that above convincing. The plain fact is that we _do not want_ every single issue of interest to any subset of the IETF to be discussed in plenary. That's why the wise minds of the past invented working groups, why we have lists that cover particular areas of interest, and so on. I maintain that there is nothing different about the systers list in this regard: it is a community of interest convened to talk about some aspect of the network or the IETF. And note the latter: we think it's fine to have an rfc-discuss list, it seems, though that would appear much more pertinent to every single participant than a list directed at the, alas, still minority of participants who are female. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com From dlake@cisco.com Tue Jul 16 14:14:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7BA21F99D2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:14:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UE5c4ANCuE6x for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:14:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C9C21F944C for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:14:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2587; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374009246; x=1375218846; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=mtpeQXcWhbKBeKuvgVkW1+FxsDzgpwBCHWtYG1Mkl4k=; b=XnxJpMJoG/hue+kV7tTikzqzHdoNTDqAhF7wrOtT7+kWsVrnWOXJqNMn o+PyCuGr8yY8JD3nk4Sie4c2QOvoKPkR/9QRsMagm4O9vfoMiV5YEdYM1 N5clfsDUrLn2JXnHDQhZ6qqHejqqR23go5gjYmcy+4I9cCWc7PRdnFIfT o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhoFAIm25VGtJV2Y/2dsb2JhbABagwY0T8F9gRIWdIIjAQEBBAEBATc0FwQCAQgOAwQBAQEKFAkHJwsUCQgCBAESCAyHfAy1SQSPLjgGgwZtA6kpgxKCKA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,679,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="235634200" Received: from rcdn-core-1.cisco.com ([173.37.93.152]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Jul 2013 21:13:58 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com [173.37.183.78]) by rcdn-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6GLDwGt023136 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:13:58 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x09.cisco.com ([169.254.4.8]) by xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com ([fe80::200:5efe:173.37.183.34%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:13:58 -0500 From: "David Lake (dlake)" To: Andrew Sullivan , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women Thread-Index: AQHOgmPSKonKu+Yvpk+2E3xBnO5yPJloG62A//+ujtA= Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:13:58 +0000 Message-ID: <3512BB31280C39448A9880F61DD54CEB094498E1@xmb-aln-x09.cisco.com> References: <5E04C269-DB7D-42B5-811A-3ACEE8F1D57C@wierenga.net> <20130716205201.GC26988@mx1.yitter.info> In-Reply-To: <20130716205201.GC26988@mx1.yitter.info> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.20.230.219] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:14:11 -0000 "can explain to me why those interests are somehow in principle different f= rom having special lists about RFC document format..." No issue at all. Except as Klaas has already pointed out: "Just not sure creating closed groups of minorities is the right thing." Run a mailing list/user-group for whoever/whatever you want, but membership= should be open for whoever wants to join by personal interest alone. You can even have approved membership - just NOT approved on the grounds of= "sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, nation= al or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth = or other status." (European Convention on Human Rights, Article 14) David -----Original Message----- From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:52 PM To: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:34:09PM +0200, Klaas Wierenga wrote: >=20 > I hope that women don't feel the need to organize themselves anymore=20 > than balding men like myself. I just know that I'm going to regret getting sucked into this conversation.= Still, as soon as the people who keep complaining about these various sid= e-lists (systers, food discussions, significant others, glbt, something-oth= er-than-English) can explain to me why those interests are somehow in princ= iple different from having special lists about RFC document format, or IPR = rules, or why the IAB ought to be disbanded, I would find arguments such as= that above convincing. The plain fact is that we _do not want_ every single issue of interest to a= ny subset of the IETF to be discussed in plenary. That's why the wise mind= s of the past invented working groups, why we have lists that cover particu= lar areas of interest, and so on. I maintain that there is nothing differe= nt about the systers list in this regard: it is a community of interest con= vened to talk about some aspect of the network or the IETF. And note the l= atter: we think it's fine to have an rfc-discuss list, it seems, though tha= t would appear much more pertinent to every single participant than a list = directed at the, alas, still minority of participants who are female. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From stpeter@stpeter.im Tue Jul 16 14:27:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D684011E80F9 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:27:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.563 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.563 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GSgCD5j4gdb9 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stpeter.im (mailhost.stpeter.im [207.210.219.225]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A5111E80F1 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sjc-vpn6-1669.cisco.com (unknown [128.107.239.233]) (Authenticated sender: stpeter) by stpeter.im (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D5AB41464; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:28:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <51E5BA9F.6000106@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:26:55 -0600 From: Peter Saint-Andre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "David Lake (dlake)" References: <5E04C269-DB7D-42B5-811A-3ACEE8F1D57C@wierenga.net> <20130716205201.GC26988@mx1.yitter.info> <3512BB31280C39448A9880F61DD54CEB094498E1@xmb-aln-x09.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <3512BB31280C39448A9880F61DD54CEB094498E1@xmb-aln-x09.cisco.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Andrew Sullivan Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:27:02 -0000 On 7/16/13 3:13 PM, David Lake (dlake) wrote: > "can explain to me why those interests are somehow in principle > different from having special lists about RFC document format..." > > No issue at all. Except as Klaas has already pointed out: > > "Just not sure creating closed groups of minorities is the right > thing." > > Run a mailing list/user-group for whoever/whatever you want, but > membership should be open for whoever wants to join by personal > interest alone. Should by whose standards? > You can even have approved membership - just NOT approved on the > grounds of "sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or > other opinion, national or social origin, association with a > national minority, property, birth or other status." (European > Convention on Human Rights, Article 14) It's not clear to me if that convention applies to the IETF. I suppose the standard IETF appeals process applies if someone wants to argue for shutting down the systers@ietf.org list. That would indeed strike a blow for principle at the cost of further alienating people who have been alienated enough. Would those who are complaining here do so if this list were being hosted at a domain other than ietf.org? Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ From ben@nostrum.com Tue Jul 16 14:33:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1BC21F99DA for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:33:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.477 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.477 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.123, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RO34DvwCGCVH for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073F021F99CE for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.12] (cpe-76-187-92-156.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.92.156]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r6GLW1If014905 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:32:02 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Ben Campbell In-Reply-To: <3512BB31280C39448A9880F61DD54CEB094498E1@xmb-aln-x09.cisco.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:32:01 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5E04C269-DB7D-42B5-811A-3ACEE8F1D57C@wierenga.net> <20130716205201.GC26988@mx1.yitter.info> <3512BB31280C39448A9880F61DD54CEB094498E1@xmb-aln-x09.cisco.com> To: David Lake (dlake) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 76.187.92.156 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Andrew Sullivan Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:33:24 -0000 It seems to me that this thread has evolved past the purpose of the = 87attendees list, and might be more appropriate for the general IETF = discussion list. On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:13 PM, David Lake (dlake) wrote: > "can explain to me why those interests are somehow in principle = different from having special lists about RFC document format..." >=20 > No issue at all. Except as Klaas has already pointed out: >=20 > "Just not sure creating closed groups of minorities is the right = thing." >=20 > Run a mailing list/user-group for whoever/whatever you want, but = membership should be open for whoever wants to join by personal interest = alone. >=20 > You can even have approved membership - just NOT approved on the = grounds of "sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other = opinion, national or social origin, association with a national = minority, property, birth or other status." (European Convention on = Human Rights, Article 14) >=20 > David >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:52 PM > To: 87attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women >=20 > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:34:09PM +0200, Klaas Wierenga wrote: >>=20 >> I hope that women don't feel the need to organize themselves anymore=20= >> than balding men like myself. >=20 > I just know that I'm going to regret getting sucked into this = conversation. Still, as soon as the people who keep complaining about = these various side-lists (systers, food discussions, significant others, = glbt, something-other-than-English) can explain to me why those = interests are somehow in principle different from having special lists = about RFC document format, or IPR rules, or why the IAB ought to be = disbanded, I would find arguments such as that above convincing. >=20 > The plain fact is that we _do not want_ every single issue of interest = to any subset of the IETF to be discussed in plenary. That's why the = wise minds of the past invented working groups, why we have lists that = cover particular areas of interest, and so on. I maintain that there is = nothing different about the systers list in this regard: it is a = community of interest convened to talk about some aspect of the network = or the IETF. And note the latter: we think it's fine to have an = rfc-discuss list, it seems, though that would appear much more pertinent = to every single participant than a list directed at the, alas, still = minority of participants who are female. >=20 > Best regards, >=20 > A >=20 > -- > Andrew Sullivan > ajs@anvilwalrusden.com > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From johnl@taugh.com Tue Jul 16 14:39:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3010A21F9A26 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:39:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.159 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.159 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.507, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SARE_UNSUB22=0.948] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4zDQiZ81m3sO for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4550121F99E8 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 14:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 76194 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2013 21:39:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=129a1.51e5bd87.k1307; bh=4Y5wTqISNlNNIQqZklFTqABf/WR3roRKZWjYfWfxong=; b=ZdcObtbjkmZPdrl9ygQkW+3cf2EZC2wi/ICJcUvZjwpH+whS3toQLLH9eo66qJOKF/1slwyeA78M3/rFMe8f5o4XzCEuRCBEh1xnYtGCg4k/5yiJWs2LCi6yk2BURLCOrQzuc6lxBVEgdnRehZgP0YfIDp4JgTjl9AZbm6AzEOt1TFQNGQYiCFQ8hzMma4jj7wbvszc5PwzuzfS5UezvqhpAu6w8BK9AMBKDsCPLE+19PDm+lcexCQbitThTmf8t DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=129a1.51e5bd87.k1307; bh=4Y5wTqISNlNNIQqZklFTqABf/WR3roRKZWjYfWfxong=; b=fmtWdk28Wvu/S/UEiR+hykvBxFJNzwIUVtkzHQXK7UVrquGK3JdyQ2unkoTsXvE1W1516k/aYkihy/J44/AZ3f8nvMjM/Al9ON3mSWGCNNyajdfp4DvJ1MKvpHLwvFmN27pJLLbX9ONDznJWaGNwzFMVoCfiiadtfCVCgO9seHx7AnlFT1GveXu5J3BL/alVLh9ZR6iOGZPT+NvyfemaOzyFeZyOTqI+YWW6hJDUU7SrGT9FJA9AlSFIGj5aOHt4 Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 16 Jul 2013 21:38:57 -0000 Date: 16 Jul 2013 17:39:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Peter Saint-Andre" In-Reply-To: <51E5BA9F.6000106@stpeter.im> References: <5E04C269-DB7D-42B5-811A-3ACEE8F1D57C@wierenga.net> <20130716205201.GC26988@mx1.yitter.info> <3512BB31280C39448A9880F61DD54CEB094498E1@xmb-aln-x09.cisco.com> <51E5BA9F.6000106@stpeter.im> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list but not for you X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:39:22 -0000 >> You can even have approved membership - just NOT approved on the >> grounds of "sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or >> other opinion, national or social origin, association with a >> national minority, property, birth or other status." (European >> Convention on Human Rights, Article 14) > > It's not clear to me if that convention applies to the IETF. Article 14 starts "The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth in this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground such as sex ...". It refers to governments, not to IETF mailing lists. Speaking as a fairly privileged white guy, I am somewhere between amused and baffled at all of the other guys who are so horrified that there might be some tiny corner of the IETF to which they aren't invited. Get over it. Speaking of the ECHR, can we apply Article 3 here, please? R's, John From cja@daydream.com Tue Jul 16 15:04:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B6D21F9011 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:04:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.307, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666, SARE_UNSUB22=0.948] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3CE2gX-XWnMF for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D208821F9017 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id wo10so1431371obc.3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:04:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=cjo8zREIT/htwfcx/m11l5t7S9rqpj0SfnOmk8Dkl24=; b=Zbbr70qTnIPPGt8GNFgNHaKQTjWGTLN9oczvWeBRjytiY0mKHY3zYH0tlVLrBlzXNf +YfG8KaV1E3GOWGES7NF1t9T9JnW9qZkEUfpQ8hCZXhKoWJ5rwe/+oS/f4BcNGbgW1M7 kRyUXYtXAOMGKKq/5UBEJ0S+og8fLzsl6CasWGyHdZ50obl93eQR+iIC2lrFYYpkI1mb gfvRtNOPQCldedCw3BL9UhTLAGUI7O5QnyDDeLxxsU64bVOe25byXQ2LXRHDD9cOguaS Km48pQab4WbJFvrMVS92wOvkXq3qj+gp4n5YpYGaW6MGjSolHDSmpgjPCt8fMx+39KxJ veVg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.132.230 with SMTP id ox6mr4422116oeb.66.1374012241309; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.248.200 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 15:04:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [184.167.40.117] In-Reply-To: References: <5E04C269-DB7D-42B5-811A-3ACEE8F1D57C@wierenga.net> <20130716205201.GC26988@mx1.yitter.info> <3512BB31280C39448A9880F61DD54CEB094498E1@xmb-aln-x09.cisco.com> <51E5BA9F.6000106@stpeter.im> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:04:01 -0600 Message-ID: From: CJ Aronson To: John R Levine Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b41cbb88f7ed504e1a82712 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkAHTaB3jkpaitN9o7Kcs//qL9/xlKWJGu4CIYGkPAg4kasQBDodMULoVasji2eG7p3qbqC Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Peter Saint-Andre Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list but not for you X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:04:06 -0000 --047d7b41cbb88f7ed504e1a82712 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Seriously all of you.. if you want to join the systers list then no one is stopping you. Folks think we shouldn't have closed lists. That's great let's note it and move on. Sign me up for the IESG, IAB, LLNP, and p2pi-com mailing lists. They're actually closed lists and no one cares. This thread started (as it does for every IETF) with a women trying to be more inclusive and help other women integrate into a very difficult environment. I am sure this discussion isn't making anyone feel welcome. It's just part of the endless confrontation that is the IETF. It was suggested to me that it means that there has been some shift in attitude. The fact that someone even notices that we have a list that has existed for probably 20 years apparently means we have arrived. Go team! (yes Dan.. sarcasm.. ) ---Cathy On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:39 PM, John R Levine wrote: > You can even have approved membership - just NOT approved on the >>> grounds of "sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or >>> other opinion, national or social origin, association with a >>> national minority, property, birth or other status." (European >>> Convention on Human Rights, Article 14) >>> >> >> It's not clear to me if that convention applies to the IETF. >> > > Article 14 starts "The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth in > this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground such > as sex ...". It refers to governments, not to IETF mailing lists. > > Speaking as a fairly privileged white guy, I am somewhere between amused > and baffled at all of the other guys who are so horrified that there might > be some tiny corner of the IETF to which they aren't invited. Get over it. > > Speaking of the ECHR, can we apply Article 3 here, please? > > R's, > John > ______________________________**_________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/87attendees > --047d7b41cbb88f7ed504e1a82712 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Seriously all of you.. if you want to join the systers lis= t then no one is stopping you. =A0 =A0 Folks think we shouldn't have cl= osed lists. That's great let's note it and move on. =A0Sign me up f= or the IESG, IAB, LLNP, and p2pi-com mailing lists. =A0They're actually= closed lists and no one cares. =A0

This thread started (as it does for every IETF) with a= women trying to be more inclusive and help other women integrate into a ve= ry difficult environment. =A0I am sure this discussion isn't making any= one feel welcome. =A0It's just part of the endless confrontation that i= s the IETF. =A0

It was suggested to me that it means that t= here has been some shift in attitude. The fact that someone even notices th= at we have a list that has existed for probably 20 years apparently means w= e have arrived. =A0Go team! =A0(yes Dan.. sarcasm.. )

---Cathy




On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:39 PM, John R Levine <= johnl@taugh.com>= ; wrote:
You can even have approved membership - just NOT approved on the
grounds of "sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or
other opinion, national or social origin, association with a
national minority, property, birth or other status." =A0(European
Convention on Human Rights, Article 14)

It's not clear to me if that convention applies to the IETF.

Article 14 starts "The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth = in this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground su= ch as sex ...". =A0It refers to governments, not to IETF mailing lists= .

Speaking as a fairly privileged white guy, I am somewhere between amused an= d baffled at all of the other guys who are so horrified that there might be= some tiny corner of the IETF to which they aren't invited. =A0Get over= it.

Speaking of the ECHR, can we apply Article 3 here, please?

R's,
John
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87attendees mailing list
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--047d7b41cbb88f7ed504e1a82712-- From bob.hinden@gmail.com Tue Jul 16 16:33:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0EA21F86AE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:33:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.5 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.5 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.099, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oxzgNN1ezk7N for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ye0-x22e.google.com (mail-ye0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c04::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435E221F85B3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ye0-f174.google.com with SMTP id m9so369938yen.19 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:33:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=/0L440rGhPrAokWvxc2Ike1dQFRzd69WglTpEOWsUGk=; b=b8yCwqJtsuQzJYsrHKtUNN4eSFG3NlvNxEf1ReHtchOG0/1O378HzLTNc4YU/JKeGe KGQWEZ2MrcH/aTQ6qH1M7e6UFIxv5YRDGX+lhAaqvLgcSVshKugZU38tqOuS56H27/js SvZuzc9GCAbBvBGKdQ9b1/6KRFkA4WwDuNGwxTZ//KSk+O8jBwiZMVIOv4rOkQ/vj+Xw 3JFhcVPkvXJ5jHXt988lJ9WU2wzYimiatQ/Kp7GHFmFiAP0ibRcgXUIbxwnYFjJJUh6u 70rlwPIjlwu1dqeLViOECDZcxLeW/QwVCD1hRL/WTN6rMZAOHTRfCnI2RQfAeeKPs/y9 8FTQ== X-Received: by 10.236.148.165 with SMTP id v25mr1183903yhj.20.1374017593623; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.224.219] ([209.97.127.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z45sm4433902yhb.0.2013.07.16.16.33.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:33:11 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:33:15 -0000 I don't understand this discussion. =20 There are a set of people who participate in the IETF who have set up a = mailing list (some years ago) to do discuss issues they encounter in the = IETF. This is something we should all encourage. =20 Bob On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys. Don't be jerks. Live and let live. >=20 > and it is guys, isn't it. sigh. >=20 >> This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile >> place. Unfortunately, that view is accurate. >=20 > dinosaurs do still roam the earth, and some of them seem to be on this > list. >=20 > i would not bother posting except it needs to be repeatedly made clear > that male bad behavior from the '50s is just not acceptable any more. >=20 From eckert@cisco.com Tue Jul 16 16:58:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4F421F99F8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:58:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.512 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.512 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.087, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Wwez52AiyoRK for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDDAD21F99E3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:58:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1348; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374019089; x=1375228689; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=BaO/8blY9un+YDkVyA6j8YHFUkZch9n+wr4vwds5KGc=; b=EV5YzarY/Tc2nvKEZjkv3RuAElGA5K/fZTtFIA7lnU1TJrsWiFO4Begt qNDEuQ2XN73KQ3FboK8RoRXbOIVWhjtGhCSqW7oixV8lsTuCqltAJaqPY 1MMh3DtsyKb7+dgFW/nRQn7PbQCECDQ5oU914d8DYOqXFiOJ5eMH+i/h/ k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUFAHzd5VGrRDoG/2dsb2JhbABagwbDFIEQFnSCIwEBAQQ6NAsQCxgJJQ8FSROID7VZj24Hg3oDiSeONAGRTYMyHA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,680,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="86213040" Received: from mtv-core-1.cisco.com ([171.68.58.6]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 16 Jul 2013 23:58:07 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6GNw6NF002403 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:58:06 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6GNw5Gh006284; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:58:05 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r6GNw5Pb006283; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:58:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:58:05 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: Bob Hinden Message-ID: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 23:58:14 -0000 Let's see... If i understand the thread correctly, the argument is that the purpose of the mailing list would best be served if men could not join so women could speak out more freely, so the discussion does not seem to be about the mailing list itself but the goal to be exclusionary. But what do i know. My best guess is that this is not about disliking an exclusion of xxx in ietf-only-4-yyy but that it turns into ietf-rant-about-xxx. On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:33:11PM -0700, Bob Hinden wrote: > I don't understand this discussion. > > There are a set of people who participate in the IETF who have set up a mailing list (some years ago) to do discuss issues they encounter in the IETF. This is something we should all encourage. > > Bob > > On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > > >> Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys. Don't be jerks. Live and let live. > > > > and it is guys, isn't it. sigh. > > > >> This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile > >> place. Unfortunately, that view is accurate. > > > > dinosaurs do still roam the earth, and some of them seem to be on this > > list. > > > > i would not bother posting except it needs to be repeatedly made clear > > that male bad behavior from the '50s is just not acceptable any more. From carlos@lacnic.net Tue Jul 16 17:12:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C67721F9622 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:12:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.048 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.048 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FeNlQHjqc3Wt for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D404D21F965B for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bonaire.local (unknown [206.48.23.211]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F9430847D; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:11:43 -0300 (UYT) Message-ID: <51E5E14F.50002@lacnic.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:11:59 -0400 From: "Carlos M. Martinez" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toerless Eckert References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: carlos@lacnic.net Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:12:08 -0000 In fact, at the beginning of the thread there was no argument, but rather a possible concern was raised in a civilized and constructive way. This concern was answered in a very clear and positive way by Alissa. The rest of the thread is just noise. On 7/16/13 7:58 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > Let's see... > > If i understand the thread correctly, the argument is that the purpose > of the mailing list would best be served if men could not join so > women could speak out more freely, so the discussion does not seem > to be about the mailing list itself but the goal to be exclusionary. > > But what do i know. My best guess is that this is not about > disliking an exclusion of xxx in ietf-only-4-yyy but that it turns > into ietf-rant-about-xxx. > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:33:11PM -0700, Bob Hinden wrote: >> I don't understand this discussion. >> >> There are a set of people who participate in the IETF who have set up a mailing list (some years ago) to do discuss issues they encounter in the IETF. This is something we should all encourage. >> >> Bob >> >> On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> >>>> Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys. Don't be jerks. Live and let live. >>> and it is guys, isn't it. sigh. >>> >>>> This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile >>>> place. Unfortunately, that view is accurate. >>> dinosaurs do still roam the earth, and some of them seem to be on this >>> list. >>> >>> i would not bother posting except it needs to be repeatedly made clear >>> that male bad behavior from the '50s is just not acceptable any more. > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From jana.iyengar@gmail.com Tue Jul 16 19:00:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4920A21F9B94 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:00:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Xg7ucYqCrKuX for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x22d.google.com (mail-we0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22d]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE8021F9B19 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id x54so1270683wes.32 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:00:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=hlEH94cIGuIRnDaGZZH90vkJWqYWjtmiTxPFo+pWQ5I=; b=d4/Hu5oDdM3eph4A9/IGz+j5Qe8EUcaF6sHVGo1sl05f4Ua62wcOIwt+XAycIQ56wM c0NPG1oAY2I+hq1B9F7ObBhRig06nnl+/9XSttCphsmuJV/WlcSZC4lxznmbqJPc1+RK nNgKsslpp9ABdk+fm40VEXX/Om7S4pcrGqCeFK9dX5Vqp7ZjOcTuePhyQoFG5xFWsj/u mVQPyTKtfwqgen8/jHEu+mXigqRB6yTkxy1Ao5q7+pywolHVbvkh502C+3C8TzimlseT BKNTaZ9Aw4ywUBM1snMhtl5WLEmZ/YH6GC1Pe14dnrzjyO7Xl3MVHXML/NZeYbvm8oE5 SL8g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.104.199 with SMTP id gg7mr3234334wjb.56.1374026446251; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.71.6 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:00:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51E5E14F.50002@lacnic.net> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <51E5E14F.50002@lacnic.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:00:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Janardhan Iyengar To: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0102feea3daad904e1ab768a Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 02:00:50 -0000 --089e0102feea3daad904e1ab768a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This may be doomed to fail, but I'll try anyways. Here are some suggestions. Let's please end this thread. Anyone who wants to start a thread about IETF mailing list policies, please start a new thread on ietf@ietf.org, and name it appropriately. There's plenty of literature on challenges for women in tech; here's a starting point: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=challenges+for+women+in+technology. And if you want to start a closed list for a different minority that you want to advocate for (say, persecutedmen@ietf.org), I think the right thing to do is to propose it to the IESG (or ISOC, or on the ietf@ietf.org mailing list). This thread originated from an advertisement for an existing mailing list, and it has long since degenerated into one more reason for having that mailing list. Let's please end this thread. - jana On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > In fact, at the beginning of the thread there was no argument, but > rather a possible concern was raised in a civilized and constructive > way. This concern was answered in a very clear and positive way by > Alissa. The rest of the thread is just noise. > > > > On 7/16/13 7:58 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > > Let's see... > > > > If i understand the thread correctly, the argument is that the purpose > > of the mailing list would best be served if men could not join so > > women could speak out more freely, so the discussion does not seem > > to be about the mailing list itself but the goal to be exclusionary. > > > > But what do i know. My best guess is that this is not about > > disliking an exclusion of xxx in ietf-only-4-yyy but that it turns > > into ietf-rant-about-xxx. > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:33:11PM -0700, Bob Hinden wrote: > >> I don't understand this discussion. > >> > >> There are a set of people who participate in the IETF who have set up a > mailing list (some years ago) to do discuss issues they encounter in the > IETF. This is something we should all encourage. > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > >> > >>>> Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys. Don't be jerks. Live and let live. > >>> and it is guys, isn't it. sigh. > >>> > >>>> This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as a hostile > >>>> place. Unfortunately, that view is accurate. > >>> dinosaurs do still roam the earth, and some of them seem to be on this > >>> list. > >>> > >>> i would not bother posting except it needs to be repeatedly made clear > >>> that male bad behavior from the '50s is just not acceptable any more. > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > --089e0102feea3daad904e1ab768a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This may be doomed to fail, but I'll try anyways. Here= are some suggestions.

Let's please end this thread.= Anyone who wants to start a thread about IETF mailing list policies, pleas= e start a new thread on ietf@ietf.org,= and name it appropriately. There's plenty of literature on challenges = for women in tech; here's a starting point: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3Dchallenge= s+for+women+in+technology. And if you want to start a closed list for a= different minority that you want to advocate for (say, persecutedmen@ietf.org), I think the right thing= to do is to propose it to the IESG (or ISOC, or on the ietf@ietf.org mailing list).

This thread originated from an advertisement for an exi= sting mailing list, and it has long since degenerated into one more reason = for having that mailing list. Let's please end this thread.

- jana

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Carlos M. = Martinez <carlos@lacnic.net> wrote:
In fact, at the beginning of the thread ther= e was no argument, but
rather a possible concern was raised in a civilized and constructive
way. This concern was answered in a very clear and positive way by
Alissa. =A0The rest of the thread is just noise.



On 7/16/13 7:58 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> Let's see...
>
> If i understand the thread correctly, the argument is that the purpose=
> of the mailing list would best be served if men could not join so
> women could speak out more freely, so the discussion does not seem
> to be about the mailing list itself but the goal to be exclusionary. >
> But what do i know. My best guess is that this is not about
> disliking an exclusion of xxx in ietf-only-4-yyy but that it turns
> into ietf-rant-about-xxx.
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:33:11PM -0700, Bob Hinden wrote:
>> I don't understand this discussion.
>>
>> There are a set of people who participate in the IETF who have set= up a mailing list (some years ago) to do discuss issues they encounter in = the IETF. =A0This is something we should all encourage.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:51 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Hear, hear. Just quiet down, guys. Don't be jerks. Liv= e and let live.
>>> and it is guys, isn't it. =A0sigh.
>>>
>>>> This sort of reaction is the reason that IETF is viewed as= a hostile
>>>> place. Unfortunately, that view is accurate.
>>> dinosaurs do still roam the earth, and some of them seem to be= on this
>>> list.
>>>
>>> i would not bother posting except it needs to be repeatedly ma= de clear
>>> that male bad behavior from the '50s is just not acceptabl= e any more.
> _______________________________________________
> 87attendees mailing list
> 87attendees@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees

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--089e0102feea3daad904e1ab768a-- From jari.arkko@piuha.net Tue Jul 16 22:46:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F95D21F9D7E for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:46:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.567 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.567 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KD3ZWTiC+vC5 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p130.piuha.net (p130.piuha.net [193.234.218.130]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7CD121F9D71 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37422CC51 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:46:20 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at piuha.net Received: from p130.piuha.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (p130.piuha.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N4u-5eEDnaRv for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:46:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p130.piuha.net [IPv6:2a00:1d50:2::130]) by p130.piuha.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C962B2CC3C for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:46:19 +0300 (EEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Jari Arkko In-Reply-To: <51E5E14F.50002@lacnic.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:46:18 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <51E5E14F.50002@lacnic.net> To: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 05:46:27 -0000 All, Alissa has advertised a mailing list and provided a very clear and = positive explanation of what the list is for. I believe the list and the = community behind it has served us well, and helped more people get = involved in the IETF and find ways to be most effective in their work. = Networking is important, particularly human networking. I support this = effort 100%. I would suggest that we all try to figure out what is it that we could = best use our day today to move something forward in a positive manner. = I'd suggest it is probably not questioning women's list. Maybe there's a = spec that needs work, or some set of people who we could help get = involved at the IETF, or just spending your time trying to understand = the problems of the Internet or the problems of fellow IETF participants = better. 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charset=US-ASCII Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:50:36 -0000 > If i understand the thread correctly, the argument is that the purpose > of the mailing list would best be served if men could not join so > women could speak out more freely, so the discussion does not seem > to be about the mailing list itself but the goal to be exclusionary. this takes the cake. it is the testosterone poisoned who made this assertion, not the women. randy From rs1983@att.com Thu Jul 18 07:44:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4573711E8149 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:44:25 GMT Received: from gaalpa1msgusr9c.ITServices.sbc.com ([130.8.36.60]) by GAALPA1MSGHUB9C.ITServices.sbc.com ([130.8.36.89]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:44:24 -0400 From: "SAYKO, ROBERT J" To: Randy Bush , Toerless Eckert Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women Thread-Index: AQHOgXDFLh0kpFdr50i4+0E4tV/oHZlmNhGAgAAGcACAAAN8AIAAAd0AgAAPq4CAAAXMAIAApQKAgAAgeQCAAEIdAIAAarsAgABwM4CAAAb1gIABGs0AgAEZcUCAABHW4IAAAMAw Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:44:23 +0000 Message-ID: <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.70.162.225] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.20.145] X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=R5y076tX c=1 sm=0 a=ZRNLZ4dFUbCvG8UMqPvVAA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=ttPbQpJ_o5gA:10 a=S5Ff0dX0qh0A:10 a=ofMgfj31e3cA:10 a=BLc] X-AnalysisOut: [eEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zQP7CpKOAAAA:8 a=XIqpo32R] X-AnalysisOut: [AAAA:8 a=4hQII7uv4zsA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=IcpIfnetcSAaHN] X-AnalysisOut: [GA5esA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lZB815dzVvQA:10] Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:44:58 -0000 Randy, Actually I think you have taken it too far. Toerless was making an statem= ent on what the thread has (for lack of better word) degenerated into. He = was not adding further opinion or commentary to the specific subject that t= he thread has evolved to.=20 But, that aside, you have now ventured into the area of name calling - no= matter that you disguise it in "hormonal terminology" it is what it is - = and that is an insult.=20 So, what I would like to know is: - what are the best recommendations for bars/taverns in Berlin? =20 - And after the IETF I am traveling to Bavaria. Any good Bed and Breakfast= s anyone can recommend? - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visit in = Bavaria? -----Original Message----- From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Randy Bush Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:50 PM To: Toerless Eckert Cc: 87 attendees; Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women > If i understand the thread correctly, the argument is that the purpose > of the mailing list would best be served if men could not join so=20 > women could speak out more freely, so the discussion does not seem=20 > to be about the mailing list itself but the goal to be exclusionary. this takes the cake. it is the testosterone poisoned who made this assertion, not the women. randy _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From Ted.Lemon@nominum.com Thu Jul 18 08:19:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA91521E8112 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:19:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.593 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.593 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.006, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RHHd98hoPmzd for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og112.obsmtp.com (exprod7og112.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.177]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F28921F84A8 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell-too.nominum.com ([64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob112.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUegHdtBdAh8kMyQhS1ZiMgyOixXbK2XF@postini.com; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:19:19 PDT Received: from archivist.nominum.com (archivist.nominum.com [64.89.228.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B659E1B8253 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.nominum.com (cas-01.win.nominum.com [64.89.228.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by archivist.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9962F190060; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:19:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ted.Lemon@nominum.com) Received: from MBX-01.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.133]) by CAS-01.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.131]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:19:18 -0700 From: Ted Lemon To: "SAYKO, ROBERT J" Thread-Topic: Bavarian attractions... Thread-Index: AQHOg8orB7NHQ/qT1kKoMZ48Na4sZg== Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:19:17 +0000 Message-ID: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> In-Reply-To: <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <36DE1BD9069FC642AF652467F753DC83@nominum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Randy Bush , 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, Toerless Eckert , Bob Hinden Subject: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:19:33 -0000 On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" wrote: > - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visit i= n Bavaria? Kloster Andechs? Scenic _and_ they have beer. Obviously Neuschwanstein.= Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be scared shitless by rickety pl= atforms high above the city. And you _must_ go to the Deutsches Museum in= Munich. 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Thread-Index: AQHOg8orB7NHQ/qT1kKoMZ48Na4sZplrBL4A Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:28:43 +0000 Message-ID: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B630775218188@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> In-Reply-To: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Randy Bush , 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, Toerless Eckert , Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:29:14 -0000 On Jul 18, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: > Der alte Peter in Munich Crap, never trust Google for advice on adjective endings without reading th= e actual search results. Of course it's "Der Alter Peter," not "Der Alte = Peter." 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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:40:15 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040905050400070402030506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted Lemon: > On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" wrote: >> - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visit in Bavaria? > Kloster Andechs? Scenic _and_ they have beer. Obviously Neuschwanstein. Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be scared shitless by rickety platforms high above the city. And you _must_ go to the Deutsches Museum in Munich. To be on "top" ;-) http://www.zugspitze.de/en/summer/berg/zugspitze/zugspitze.htm Take a roundtrip with cogwheeltrain and cable cars! 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Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted Lemon:
On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" <rs1983@att.com> wrote:

- What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visit in Bavaria?

Kloster Andechs?   Scenic _and_ they have beer.   Obviously Neuschwanstein.  Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be scared shitless by rickety platforms high above the city.   And you _must_ go to the Deutsches Museum in Munich.


To be on "top" ;-)

http://www.zugspitze.de/en/summer/berg/zugspitze/zugspitze.htm

Take a roundtrip with cogwheeltrain and cable cars!

And have some coffee, cake and cream down in Garmisch.




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Thread-Index: AQHOg8o9KF8mkDVhHk+BZgpCFcIZ6plqcQkAgAAiAjA= Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:00:27 +0000 Message-ID: <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B2140@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.159.42.99] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B2140DEMUMBX005nsnintr_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate-size: 14202 X-purgate-ID: 151667::1374163229-000017BA-5D4738D5/0-0/0-0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:01:09 -0000 --_000_56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B2140DEMUMBX005nsnintr_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are you into ... ... arts? http://www.lenbachhaus.de/ -> Impressive Blue Rider collection (website seems to be in German only) http://www.pinakothek.de/en/home -> The Munich "Pinakothek" museums - there are three of them, covering diff= erent epochs of painting. The "Pinakothek der Moderne" which is the contemporary one is unfortunately= closed due to construction. Note that Sunday admission is 1 EUR only, otherwise 10 EUR. ... cars and motorbikes? http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/ You may have a guided tour of the factory, if you are lucky to get a ticket= (advance reservation needed) http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/visitor_information/guided_tours/plant.html ... mountains? Zugspitze is definitely recommended, as Monika writes below. The cog wheel train spends long time in tunnels and travelling through fore= st, IMHO it's more scenic to take the cable car both ways. There's also an impressive Gorge in that area: http://www.partnachklamm.eu/= flyer/eng-flyer-inet.pdf Kind regards, Uwe From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of ext M.Ermert Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:40 PM To: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted Lemon: On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" wrote: - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visit in = Bavaria? Kloster Andechs? Scenic _and_ they have beer. Obviously Neuschwanstein.= Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be scared shitless by rickety pl= atforms high above the city. And you _must_ go to the Deutsches Museum in= Munich. To be on "top" ;-) http://www.zugspitze.de/en/summer/berg/zugspitze/zugspitze.htm Take a roundtrip with cogwheeltrain and cable cars! And have some coffee, cake and cream down in Garmisch. _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --_000_56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B2140DEMUMBX005nsnintr_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Are you into …=

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http://www.lenbachhaus.de/

-> Impressive Blue Rid= er collection (website seems to be in German only)

 <= /p>

http://www.pinakothek.de/en/home

-> The Munich “P= inakothek” museums – there are three of them, covering differen= t epochs of painting.

The “Pinakothek der= Moderne” which is the contemporary one is unfortunately closed due t= o construction.

Note that Sunday admissio= n is 1 EUR only, otherwise 10 EUR.

 <= /p>

 <= /p>

… cars and motorbikes?

 

http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/ =  

You may have a guided tour of the factory, if you are lucky to get a tic= ket (advance reservation needed)

http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/visitor_information/guided_tours/plan= t.html

 

 

 

… mountains?

 <= /p>

Zugspitze is definitely r= ecommended, as Monika writes below.

The cog wheel train spend= s long time in tunnels and travelling through forest, IMHO it’s more = scenic to take the cable car both ways.

There’s also an imp= ressive Gorge in that area: http://www= .partnachklamm.eu/flyer/eng-flyer-inet.pdf  

 

 

Kind regards,
Uwe

 

 

 

From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-= bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext M.Ermert
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:40 PM
To: 87attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions...=

 

Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted Lemon: 

On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" <rs1983@att.com> wrote:
- What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visi=
t in Bavaria?
 
Kloster Andechs?   Scenic _and_ they have beer.   =
Obviously Neuschwanstein.  Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be=
 scared shitless by rickety platforms high above the city.   And =
you _must_ go to the Deutsches Museum in Munich.



To be on "top" ;-)

= http://www.zugspitze.de/en/summer/berg/zugspitze/zugspitze.htm

Take a roundtrip with cogwheeltrain and cable cars!

And have some coffee, cake and cream down in Garmisch.




 
 
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--_000_56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B2140DEMUMBX005nsnintr_-- From lucy.yong@huawei.com Thu Jul 18 09:05:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E317011E8163 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:05:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.366 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.366 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.232, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PqaX1fUkgHaE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E787B11E80FC for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id ATO48210; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:05:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) by lhreml204-edg.china.huawei.com (172.18.7.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.7; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:04:54 +0100 Received: from DFWEML407-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.132) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.7; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:05:35 +0100 Received: from DFWEML509-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.11.169]) by dfweml407-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.132]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.007; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:05:29 -0700 From: Lucy yong To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: social event tickes Thread-Index: AQHOg9Cf53Ji9s4Mu0mY4BhMdsW5Fg== Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:05:29 +0000 Message-ID: <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527CA6C@dfweml509-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B2140@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> In-Reply-To: <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B2140@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.131.132] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527CA6Cdfweml509mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Subject: [87attendees] social event tickes X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:05:59 -0000 --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527CA6Cdfweml509mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Social event ticket is already sold out. If you buy more than you need, ple= ase let me know. Lucy From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich) Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:00 AM To: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... Are you into ... ... arts? http://www.lenbachhaus.de/ -> Impressive Blue Rider collection (website seems to be in German only) http://www.pinakothek.de/en/home -> The Munich "Pinakothek" museums - there are three of them, covering diff= erent epochs of painting. The "Pinakothek der Moderne" which is the contemporary one is unfortunately= closed due to construction. Note that Sunday admission is 1 EUR only, otherwise 10 EUR. ... cars and motorbikes? http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/ You may have a guided tour of the factory, if you are lucky to get a ticket= (advance reservation needed) http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/visitor_information/guided_tours/plant.html ... mountains? Zugspitze is definitely recommended, as Monika writes below. The cog wheel train spends long time in tunnels and travelling through fore= st, IMHO it's more scenic to take the cable car both ways. There's also an impressive Gorge in that area: http://www.partnachklamm.eu/= flyer/eng-flyer-inet.pdf Kind regards, Uwe From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of ext M.Ermert Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:40 PM To: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted Lemon: On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" wrote: - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visit in = Bavaria? Kloster Andechs? Scenic _and_ they have beer. Obviously Neuschwanstein.= Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be scared shitless by rickety pl= atforms high above the city. And you _must_ go to the Deutsches Museum in= Munich. To be on "top" ;-) http://www.zugspitze.de/en/summer/berg/zugspitze/zugspitze.htm Take a roundtrip with cogwheeltrain and cable cars! And have some coffee, cake and cream down in Garmisch. _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527CA6Cdfweml509mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Social event ticket is al= ready sold out. If you buy more than you need, please let me know.

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Lucy

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From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-= bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich)
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:00 AM
To: 87attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions...=

 

Are you into …=

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… arts?<= /span>

 <= /p>

http://www.lenbachhaus.de/

-> Impressive Blue Rid= er collection (website seems to be in German only)

 <= /p>

http://www.pinakothek.de/en/home

-> The Munich “P= inakothek” museums – there are three of them, covering differen= t epochs of painting.

The “Pinakothek der= Moderne” which is the contemporary one is unfortunately closed due t= o construction.

Note that Sunday admissio= n is 1 EUR only, otherwise 10 EUR.

 <= /p>

 <= /p>

… cars and motorbikes?

 

http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/ =  

You may have a guided tour of the factory, if you are lucky to get a tic= ket (advance reservation needed)

http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/visitor_information/guided_tours/plan= t.html

 

 

 

… mountains?

 <= /p>

Zugspitze is definitely r= ecommended, as Monika writes below.

The cog wheel train spend= s long time in tunnels and travelling through forest, IMHO it’s more = scenic to take the cable car both ways.

There’s also an imp= ressive Gorge in that area: http://www= .partnachklamm.eu/flyer/eng-flyer-inet.pdf  

 

 

Kind regards,
Uwe

 

 

 

From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-= bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext M.Ermert
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:40 PM
To: 87attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions...=

 

Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted Lemon: 

On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" <rs1983@att.com> wrote:
- What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visi=
t in Bavaria?
 
Kloster Andechs?   Scenic _and_ they have beer.   =
Obviously Neuschwanstein.  Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be=
 scared shitless by rickety platforms high above the city.   And =
you _must_ go to the Deutsches Museum in Munich.



To be on "top" ;-)

= http://www.zugspitze.de/en/summer/berg/zugspitze/zugspitze.htm

Take a roundtrip with cogwheeltrain and cable cars!

And have some coffee, cake and cream down in Garmisch.



 
 
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--_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527CA6Cdfweml509mbxchi_-- From sebastian@sneuner.org Thu Jul 18 09:09:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEEB021E810F for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:09:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BumNmBWFPesk for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.187]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E903E21F888F for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.39] ([62.152.164.187]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MBIsH-1UsStC1l1p-00A2DY; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 18:08:27 +0200 Message-ID: <51E812FA.5010804@sneuner.org> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 18:08:26 +0200 From: Sebastian Neuner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> In-Reply-To: <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:hFp00m+O5yqGz7AK1BAh2n8ZEFD+pobLBmeVnpHVtxM acbSA0r9vCnfCt11fY8wjUdGCQGICIFqexUvNYCDgE6mQsCsLU wAta1eclOq9AY9cMSoyUxP99VzXuh99cJfO8Tb9y1Lyb7nAIrt gBmcAGNotBuYSA4pGdq0bh0uXew3UinJiDS9gt6Nsx+vyoonfh gGJ1u7k+Dy82ur6yK8v9wwWIirK8oZm3jWQ+voOw6ZnikRGwAe GfSDBC1qV26bF+c0YyCO9HHsbRAB4jg8CXUYwhVmIbc4J6Wiqb 04Cs4tnzDOwCXpMkUsDQKInGM/0GIvo41odAekSWuhW6p1WQl0 Px1zBHXAsDoCslgawH1o= Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:09:02 -0000 I can recommend visiting some historical cities. There are quite a few which are worth the drive. I basically grew up in Dinkelsbühl, which is about half way between Stuttgart and Nuremberg in Franconia. There are a few other old cities in that area which are connected by the "romantic road". The houses in the old city center of Dinkelsbühl still look like they did in the 17th century. A google image search [0] will give you an idea. So if you're interested in the Germany of the 17th century I guess that could be worth a 1-2 day trip. But keep in mind that this area is quite a bit away from the really big cities. Kind regards, Sebastian [0] http://goo.gl/eEZiK On 18.07.2013 16:44, SAYKO, ROBERT J wrote: > > > > Randy, > > Actually I think you have taken it too far. Toerless was making an statement on what the thread has (for lack of better word) degenerated into. He was not adding further opinion or commentary to the specific subject that the thread has evolved to. > > But, that aside, you have now ventured into the area of name calling - no matter that you disguise it in "hormonal terminology" it is what it is - and that is an insult. > > So, what I would like to know is: > - what are the best recommendations for bars/taverns in Berlin? > - And after the IETF I am traveling to Bavaria. Any good Bed and Breakfasts anyone can recommend? > - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visit in Bavaria? > > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bush > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:50 PM > To: Toerless Eckert > Cc: 87 attendees; Bob Hinden > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women > >> If i understand the thread correctly, the argument is that the purpose >> of the mailing list would best be served if men could not join so >> women could speak out more freely, so the discussion does not seem >> to be about the mailing list itself but the goal to be exclusionary. > > this takes the cake. it is the testosterone poisoned who made this > assertion, not the women. > > randy > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > From huubatwork@gmail.com Thu Jul 18 09:14:50 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAD621E812C for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:14:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7VKLAbptLfs3 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x22a.google.com (mail-wg0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22a]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA09121E8105 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id z11so896271wgg.1 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:14:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:disposition-notification-to:date:from:reply-to :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l5GIR4epYwxYEdaocy5uAsOrg2Q7uhOTFrAZ5QY6nnM=; b=L5SMsGjBkD2GT6L2iK69SlSz3dVJ4jdl+fHvt54CTA7p+W7P7wbHKM8931U6wSjif5 ig4iVGSIseVKFe32kQPDyPjT639akvmKSBQFdh8eRwPKZjD+1JMnq1SLSIoxc3KaJ072 YE/UeYJ0DP6THF6IWu4+YxdjJdSgruW5OtMh9og2jaC/AAalVp7gK78f3FyOsdFGJVtL H+lwy4FqqU1HWGHjLaoD4dkkyce0gtKUP1Vm6/YRi5OzFPZAb7pUQGYIwM5khQoHYm70 m0N84ucgwsGS0XT/itb3yh/KJTZBScPR8phZdJM+sh+Dy/x9ZDkVg+gXFeMzaK4BAsXK e2dw== X-Received: by 10.194.9.70 with SMTP id x6mr9051850wja.19.1374164081108; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from McAsterix.local (g215085.upc-g.chello.nl. [80.57.215.85]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z6sm17541472wiv.11.2013.07.18.09.14.39 for <87attendees@ietf.org> (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51E8146F.6010702@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 18:14:39 +0200 From: Huub van Helvoort User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B2140@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527CA6C@dfweml509-mbx.china.huawei.com> In-Reply-To: <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527CA6C@dfweml509-mbx.china.huawei.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [87attendees] social event tickes X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: huubatwork@gmail.com List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:14:50 -0000 Hi, Due to circumstances I registered late, and found that social tickets are sold out. I am interested in two tickets (for my wife and myself). 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And if discussions get fragmented, folks will figure out how to solve it like with any other mailing list where we had that problem. To your questions: I have not been to Berlin foreever, but back in the 90'th, i liked http://www.cafeeinstein.com/ (menu has english), walking distance. Best for a longer breakfast when you don't have a morning session, probabably good also for lunch. Bars and Taverns i can't remember names, but theres a huge variety. Kurfuerstendamm is the original West Berlin shopping mile, there are also a variety of Restaurants around Savignyplatz. Also, at the risk of getting killed by beer connoisseurs for recommending flavored beer, the Berlin speciality in summer of course is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berliner_Weisse The other speciality of cause is Currywurst at a hole in the wall. Cheers Toerless On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 02:44:23PM +0000, SAYKO, ROBERT J wrote: > > > > Randy, > > Actually I think you have taken it too far. Toerless was making an statement on what the thread has (for lack of better word) degenerated into. He was not adding further opinion or commentary to the specific subject that the thread has evolved to. > > But, that aside, you have now ventured into the area of name calling - no matter that you disguise it in "hormonal terminology" it is what it is - and that is an insult. > > So, what I would like to know is: > - what are the best recommendations for bars/taverns in Berlin? > - And after the IETF I am traveling to Bavaria. Any good Bed and Breakfasts anyone can recommend? > - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visit in Bavaria? > > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bush > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:50 PM > To: Toerless Eckert > Cc: 87 attendees; Bob Hinden > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women > > > If i understand the thread correctly, the argument is that the purpose > > of the mailing list would best be served if men could not join so > > women could speak out more freely, so the discussion does not seem > > to be about the mailing list itself but the goal to be exclusionary. > > this takes the cake. it is the testosterone poisoned who made this > assertion, not the women. > > randy > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! From uwe.rauschenbach@nsn.com Thu Jul 18 09:20:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D79621F99A9 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:20:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nuc5a3JpNbSL for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84A511E8119 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r6IGK16q018753 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 18:20:01 +0200 Received: from DEMUHTC004.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.42.35]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r6IGJx6s031534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 18:20:01 +0200 Received: from DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net ([169.254.5.45]) by DEMUHTC004.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.42.35]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 18:19:58 +0200 From: "Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... Thread-Index: AQHOg9Kml+CiHJ3Nc0Wx1rAMvK8Bgw== Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:19:59 +0000 Message-ID: <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B218E@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <51E812FA.5010804@sneuner.org> In-Reply-To: <51E812FA.5010804@sneuner.org> Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.159.42.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate-size: 1617 X-purgate-ID: 151667::1374164402-00002EAE-D37741C8/0-0/0-0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:20:17 -0000 Rothenburg ob der Tauber is another nice example of a well-preserved histor= ic European town=20 (going back to medieval ages, including a city wall in excellent condition,= on top of which=20 you can walk around the inner town). It's a three hours drive from Munich to Rothenburg, so it may turn out as a= longish day trip.=20 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothenburg_ob_der_Tauber=20 =A0 Kind regards, Uwe=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Sebastian Neuner > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 6:08 PM > To: 87attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women >=20 > I can recommend visiting some historical cities. There are quite a few > which are worth the drive. I basically grew up in Dinkelsb=FChl, which is > about half way between Stuttgart and Nuremberg in Franconia. There are > a > few other old cities in that area which are connected by the "romantic > road". >=20 > The houses in the old city center of Dinkelsb=FChl still look like they > did in the 17th century. A google image search [0] will give you an > idea. >=20 > So if you're interested in the Germany of the 17th century I guess that > could be worth a 1-2 day trip. But keep in mind that this area is quite > a bit away from the really big cities. >=20 > Kind regards, > Sebastian >=20 > [0] http://goo.gl/eEZiK >=20 >=20 > On 18.07.2013 16:44, SAYKO, ROBERT J wrote: > > > > > > > > - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and > visit in Bavaria? From emcmurry@computer.org Thu Jul 18 09:24:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CF0511E8189 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:24:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.008, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TA5OoN1YjBzZ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org (mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org [204.13.248.72]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAA711E817E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cpe-76-184-161-215.tx.res.rr.com ([76.184.161.215] helo=antikythera.casamcmurry.com) by mho-02-ewr.mailhop.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Uzqzu-000Jqj-4b; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:24:06 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antikythera.casamcmurry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EA7B03FCE; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:24:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Mail-Handler: Dyn Standard SMTP by Dyn X-Originating-IP: 76.184.161.215 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.dyndns.com/services/sendlabs/outbound_abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX1/9xgwRktP0Ih+1zfcgYXCFL53O1q7iXcc= X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at casamcmurry.com Received: from antikythera.casamcmurry.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (antikythera.casamcmurry.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4ITU5yzyodwI; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:24:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.13.6] (unknown [192.168.13.6]) by antikythera.casamcmurry.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7195EB03FBB; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:24:04 -0500 (CDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_90A0F360-91FD-4819-84AC-38590EADC93F" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Eric McMurry In-Reply-To: <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:24:02 -0500 Message-Id: <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> To: M.Ermert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:24:14 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_90A0F360-91FD-4819-84AC-38590EADC93F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'll second the Deutsches Museum in Munich. Very interesting. On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:40 , M.Ermert wrote: > Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted Lemon: >> On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" = wrote: >>> - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and = visit in Bavaria? >> Kloster Andechs? Scenic _and_ they have beer. Obviously = Neuschwanstein. Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be scared = shitless by rickety platforms high above the city. And you _must_ go = to the Deutsches Museum in Munich. >=20 >=20 > To be on "top" ;-) >=20 > http://www.zugspitze.de/en/summer/berg/zugspitze/zugspitze.htm >=20 > Take a roundtrip with cogwheeltrain and cable cars!=20 >=20 > And have some coffee, cake and cream down in Garmisch. >=20 >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --Apple-Mail=_90A0F360-91FD-4819-84AC-38590EADC93F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 I'll second the Deutsches Museum in Munich.  Very interesting.


On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:40 , M.Ermert <m.ermert@gmx.de> wrote:

Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted Lemon:
On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" <rs1983@att.com> wrote:

- What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visit in Bavaria?

Kloster Andechs?   Scenic _and_ they have beer.   Obviously Neuschwanstein.  Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be scared shitless by rickety platforms high above the city.   And you _must_ go to the Deutsches Museum in Munich.


To be on "top" ;-)

http://www.zugspitze.de/en/summer/berg/zugspitze/zugspitze.htm

Take a roundtrip with cogwheeltrain and cable cars!

And have some coffee, cake and cream down in Garmisch.



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--Apple-Mail=_90A0F360-91FD-4819-84AC-38590EADC93F-- From Sandra.Murphy@sparta.com Thu Jul 18 09:48:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20E521E8050 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:48:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7+RjuOpS9lQG for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Uther.sparta.com (uther.sparta.com [157.185.0.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 933DF11E8193 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:48:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durin.laguna.sparta.com ([10.62.216.7]) by Uther.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6IGmfZZ024778 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:48:41 -0700 Received: from CVA-HUB001.centreville.ads.sparta.com ([10.62.108.11]) by durin.laguna.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6IGmd7f000953 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:48:40 -0700 Received: from CVA-MB001.centreville.ads.sparta.com ([fe80::58b4:c7c2:f9d:dff9]) by CVA-HUB001.centreville.ads.sparta.com ([fe80::8ca8:7aea:3db9:1972%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:48:16 -0400 From: "Murphy, Sandra" To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Berlin airport to hotel Thread-Index: AQHOgXYe1Yxr7TxMx0u4pJHtHrQJj5lqkDKS Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:48:15 +0000 Message-ID: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F6749BB346@CVA-MB001.centreville.ads.sparta.com> References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.62.8.137] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Berlin airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:48:46 -0000 I'm landing at 8am on a week day. Would the 200 bus at that time of day be= crowded? (carrying suitcase+laptop a bit much?) The X9 is said to be an A= irport Express so should not be subject to rush hour crowding.=0A= =0A= =0A= --Sandy=0A= =0A= Ah, Tom Swifties: "That's no bull!", Tom uddered.=0A= =0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf= of John R Levine [johnl@taugh.com]=0A= Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 12:12 PM=0A= To: 87attendees@ietf.org=0A= Subject: [87attendees] Berlin airport to hotel=0A= =0A= In case nobody's posted this yet, it is very easy to get from the airport= =0A= to the hotel on public transportation, assuming you don't have more=0A= luggage than you can carry.=0A= =0A= There is a transportation desk at the airport near the exit to the bus=0A= stops. Buy a zone AB ticket for 2,40=80, go out and take the X9 bus.=0A= Validate your ticket by sticking it in the validator on the bus. Get off= =0A= at the fifth stop at the Zoo, take the 200 bus toward Michelangelostrasse= =0A= two stops to Budapeststrasse and you'll be in front of the hotel.=0A= =0A= Each stop is announced and shown on displays in the bus, so it's easy to=0A= tell where you are, even if you don't recognize the Zoo because, you know,= =0A= it's the zoo.=0A= =0A= If you expect to make many trips around town, I'd suggest buying a weekly= =0A= zone AB ticket at the airport for =8028, which you also validate on your=0A= first trip. You probably won't save much money compared to individual=0A= tickets but it's much less hassle. Berlin has an integrated fare system=0A= and the same ticket is good on buses, U-bahn (subway), and S-bahn=0A= (regional train.)=0A= =0A= Regards,=0A= John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY=0A= "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.=0A= From eckert@cisco.com Thu Jul 18 10:13:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C3421F9F44 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:13:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gwOpq+ujTzpa for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA22711E8173 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:13:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3110; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374167599; x=1375377199; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to; bh=JPQmYeMBVLjwQBkvHndDqb4uKidG5k1GQ/z71SdB3Wc=; b=LpRq/NoAuVgdl2T9OVPK4vNTvYTOsMpNQb4NVQN4Y9pRVHqugLq5gzgF a2HE0FMk08t7BIp0fWXiNQj0awKxo/f7ioAro8hgtK2UoGGveCF+jt6gY EYQ8M5eFYlcz40pN1K+obVHvVUx3sbIiiI2In26pvPe9OaHiVysba66Ne Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmAKAOwh6FGrRDoJ/2dsb2JhbABagwY1SsBFAwGBEhZ0giQBAQEBAwEBAS8BNQYLDAQLEQEDAQEBCR4HDwUTHwMGDhOIDwgFtiuNLIFwcwcGg3YDiSiONAGBKYsBAYUigzIcNgEBdiQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,695,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="83883287" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2013 17:13:10 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IHD9IQ011682 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:13:09 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6IHD9rg015883; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:13:09 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r6IHD92g015882; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:13:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:13:09 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: "Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich)" Message-ID: <20130718171309.GJ23170@cisco.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <51E812FA.5010804@sneuner.org> <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B218E@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B218E@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:13:28 -0000 http://exchange.aaa.com/automobiles-travel/international-travel/international-clubs/ If you've got a AAA card, you can get maps and travel books from the ADAC (germany automobile club) offices, like the one in berlin which is not too far away from the conference. Not sure how useful their travel guidance is and whether their english is useful though. I remember them being very good to validate travel routes against construction problems, eg: to avoid driving down highways that would be unusable due to construction. Alas, these days that is an even more common problem than 20 years ago. Having lived in Nuremberg area for 15 years, i do of course have to recommend that city, although technically thats Franconia, not Bavaria. Castle, walk downtown (nice middle-age ), Albercht Duerer house, German National museum, toy museum, lots of other historic places etc. pp. Baked carp is the local food speciality i always get when i'm there, although i am not really sure if they have it in summer (not the season). Cheers Toerless On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 04:19:59PM +0000, Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich) wrote: > Rothenburg ob der Tauber is another nice example of a well-preserved historic European town > (going back to medieval ages, including a city wall in excellent condition, on top of which > you can walk around the inner town). > > It's a three hours drive from Munich to Rothenburg, so it may turn out as a longish day trip. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothenburg_ob_der_Tauber > >   > Kind regards, > Uwe > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Sebastian Neuner > > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 6:08 PM > > To: 87attendees@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Mailing list for IETF women > > > > I can recommend visiting some historical cities. There are quite a few > > which are worth the drive. I basically grew up in Dinkelsbühl, which is > > about half way between Stuttgart and Nuremberg in Franconia. There are > > a > > few other old cities in that area which are connected by the "romantic > > road". > > > > The houses in the old city center of Dinkelsbühl still look like they > > did in the 17th century. A google image search [0] will give you an > > idea. > > > > So if you're interested in the Germany of the 17th century I guess that > > could be worth a 1-2 day trip. But keep in mind that this area is quite > > a bit away from the really big cities. > > > > Kind regards, > > Sebastian > > > > [0] http://goo.gl/eEZiK > > > > > > On 18.07.2013 16:44, SAYKO, ROBERT J wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and > > visit in Bavaria? > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! From laser.ru@gmail.com Thu Jul 18 10:15:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209D611E81A3 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.933 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.933 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W6bCm6TGzJx7 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com (mail-wi0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729C811E8167 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id k10so6923058wiv.7 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=w8x+S5++r9MCU0SBSKst61Uj24RQ/IKVXj1TRuYzY7U=; b=B4N/Ns0cPp2Abc3+MKdNGeM85wAm8LvvF4haZ1bWWKwbK7jfCFYM9WWL6F1J2Fe/tb V6MSOENKcelM/PW03rdEgDptE94bDe5Cv9TsFzqyLHw0CEgt9bKoqOpZNVO5PldnbHqK Mb/NsagOViZzAVIuQQocpH+jqg5t+bp+PMoZ3U+PwoIaac1T/blq47YflAu4ss99LwGv OFjORGYPPA5+Aa5y9r6OdWtfkKQSlzvyC5fzxLB3yntwiGWONrqpGqo8FiAPDXvYh1tm spr0LW4x4FZL6Rf9ogulDdM3C6/wGK12ZtSI/LZTMiG9HnLFOM8HYsAlrtIateFghvKV 5xWg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.36.107 with SMTP id p11mr8893236wij.31.1374167724586; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.56.8 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51E8146F.6010702@gmail.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B2140@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527CA6C@dfweml509-mbx.china.huawei.com> <51E8146F.6010702@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:15:24 +0400 Message-ID: From: Andrey Lukyanenko To: huubatwork@gmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f502d1215fdf704e1cc5b61 Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] social event tickes X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:15:26 -0000 --e89a8f502d1215fdf704e1cc5b61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Same here. I asked organizers about it. They said that they do not have any queue for social tickets, but here it is. So if anyone have them available two tickets I would like to buy also. Best regards, Andrey Lukyanenko. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Huub van Helvoort wr= ote: > Hi, > > Due to circumstances I registered late, and found that social > tickets are sold out. > > I am interested in two tickets (for my wife and myself). > > Thanks, Huub. > > -- > ********************************************************************* > =E8=AF=B7=E8=AE=B0=E4=BD=8F=EF=BC=8C=E4=BD=A0=E6=98=AF=E7= =8B=AC=E4=B8=80=E6=97=A0=E4=BA=8C=E7=9A=84=EF=BC=8C=E5=B0=B1=E5=83=8F=E5=85= =B6=E4=BB=96=E6=AF=8F=E4=B8=80=E4=B8=AA=E4=BA=BA=E4=B8=80=E6=A0=B7 > > ______________________________**_________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/87attendees > --e89a8f502d1215fdf704e1cc5b61 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Same here. I asked organizers about= it. They said that they do not have any queue for social tickets, but here= it is. So if anyone have them available two tickets I would like to buy al= so.


Best regards,Andrey Lukyanenko.


On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Huub va= n Helvoort <huubatwork@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Due to circumstances I registered late, and found that social
tickets are sold out.

I am interested in two tickets (for my wife and myself).

Thanks, Huub.

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--e89a8f502d1215fdf704e1cc5b61-- From brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com Thu Jul 18 10:15:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0645511E81A8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yu6Sf-Ko8Gyv for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-x231.google.com (mail-ie0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6912311E8167 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id aq17so7268406iec.8 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eGStsI+9/YrjUyLv8SCQsZNBVcjIuGDAYXGn3DaWDrg=; b=qljumHvxwRbZuSxXeMn/b/jROjbOBt+TCQd/kNmlUquADJvaFSXm1KMlUZcX43ptC9 Y0sWlp+5f5pPAY+ShUWnBINMel/N32CN9W09HbviOpUK+4NuExgS8VNMrWHsnDko1dWH iII/8/0Gmi0WBW0HZRWe9/v+4e495cFKH9YrUnhiqm8WwyFu4czTrTOQHvB1CFaY1YzH ylFZvXWtHFcpApcZc5FqMYlvjAC1Dq8RM6wwcKptPELcJeop+fkyrBY9g9VQpHRwGWPQ nHm+yfxgc/RHw9dpRtdIoxleWNwyXq+n+bWQyrko5n9S26cvYqhwKKYWSniaK25aUdWy XkSg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.111.170 with SMTP id ij10mr3545433igb.9.1374167744040; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.23.129 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:15:43 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brian Dickson To: 87attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b4144843ed59104e1cc5c84 Subject: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:15:45 -0000 --047d7b4144843ed59104e1cc5c84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just noticed that the social event sold out. However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating: Attendees: 1339 (as of now) Tickets: 475 (limited to 1+1 for attendee + guest). This means the potential demand would have been 2678, vs 475 available, and even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475. I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit, but it would be nice if the host (DENIC) could consider either increasing (if that is possible) the available tickets, or adding another venue for those unable to get tickets. My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't some social for us to go to. (!!!). Is anyone from either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, able to address this, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to the venue itself? Respectfully, Brian --047d7b4144843ed59104e1cc5c84 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just noticed that the social event sold out.

However, = now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating:

=
Attendees: 1339 (as of now)
Tickets: 475 (limited to 1= +1 for attendee + guest).

This means the potential demand would have been 2678, v= s 475 available, and even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475.=

I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit,= but it would be nice if the host (DENIC) could consider either increasing = (if that is possible) the available tickets, or adding another venue for th= ose unable to get tickets.

My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't = some social for us to go to. (!!!).

Is anyone from= either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, able to address thi= s, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to the venue itself?

Respectfully,
Brian
--047d7b4144843ed59104e1cc5c84-- From johnl@taugh.com Thu Jul 18 10:16:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3245E11E81AB for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:16:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.609 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.609 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.009, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xuYif7vuqopW for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E0E11E8196 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 85147 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2013 17:16:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-id:user-agent:cleverness; s=14c9a.51e822e2.k1307; bh=/NwmmquOxg1VKmY05sTcxEg61Q0hFmDEj5Iiyj/Jp4o=; b=4K3BQB7zBo0hZOD25IjyGkjLKlBdldMRsPJDXM64xtUN+uaLSW0yuG0LZERdKzPo+2t4P4oXTp/Wf3aEZCS450kE+nfTzkCcUu8nObE0Za1wm2kCZpoYnBf7nhS0NF43bN9JbwJCbFfSEJMALhXDGNHW+1BH3irLjhvNs+i8nWEK69ssGVqkNzUrxl9T6mq+az9NPfvKGMhmL2MvySzwwcWrGtoUqjAcjma1vBwKWrEEtTtT2lQKZ88CrRjxlBpV DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-id:user-agent:cleverness; s=14c9a.51e822e2.k1307; bh=/NwmmquOxg1VKmY05sTcxEg61Q0hFmDEj5Iiyj/Jp4o=; b=tXQn67mL3y0YnRGwjezGv9ssqXVJkG0zCuCV/u+ZQKksTQR5kGeHala8nVr+cu2SAQBDjzhD0/iokfEdmVPk2T5KbKqHmUF0Mquc8AZt86FTzg7mGQY2n3fieJKpLNUy1W6rYSbXY1ncgCdTZyu8TwGUDbbaOUH0A56YYcBIbBiae4LmR1VjccYBgWmAPhhPclJLfok909dqZj4p6KCa9Gihj70y+1SM7CDzT23NE5v1OmeBkNHMCmzo4S1tGDIL Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 18 Jul 2013 17:15:56 -0000 Date: 18 Jul 2013 13:16:18 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: 87attendees@ietf.org User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-ID: Subject: [87attendees] Warm weather dining in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:16:21 -0000 Since it is likely to be pretty warm in Berlin, can anyone suggest places to eat outside? Last year we found a very pleasant biergarten by the Wannsee train station, but there must be closer options. R's, John From rs1983@att.com Thu Jul 18 10:17:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7F221E8127 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:17:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2Xy04aPtClS6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com [209.65.160.93]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BCA11E8196 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.20.145] (EHLO nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com) by nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.15.0-1) with ESMTP id b1328e15.5cb17940.1239474.00-559.3437434.nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:17:15 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 51e8231b13a27bff-d3b9b13f18ecca49b4b2169b87cb1f6b39cfa9c0 Received: from unknown [144.160.20.145] (EHLO mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) by nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.15.0-1) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 71328e15.0.1239452.00-358.3437357.nbfkord-smmo07.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:17:13 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 51e82319646017f9-e818515182591f2b71f34e24b2b5df49e8dfcb9c Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IHHB4S020016; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:17:11 -0400 Received: from alpi133.aldc.att.com (alpi133.aldc.att.com [130.8.217.3]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IHH7kk019978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:17:08 -0400 Received: from GAALPA1MSGHUB9E.ITServices.sbc.com (gaalpa1msghub9e.itservices.sbc.com [130.8.36.91]) by alpi133.aldc.att.com (RSA Interceptor); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:16:54 GMT Received: from gaalpa1msgusr9c.ITServices.sbc.com ([130.8.36.60]) by GAALPA1MSGHUB9E.ITServices.sbc.com ([130.8.36.91]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:16:54 -0400 From: "SAYKO, ROBERT J" To: Eric McMurry , "M.Ermert" Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... 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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:17:21 -0000 --_000_9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DF24GAALPA1MSGUSR9C_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks All These and the previous all seem to be interesting suggestions. I have col= lected them and will be using your suggestions for plotting out my journey/= adventure this weekend. We don't plan on having a ridged agenda, but havi= ng a good list of things to do and see will help guide our wanderings. Aft= er the IETF we plan to travel south, by car, through Germany into Italy g= oing as far as Rome. Thus, I will be extending my stay in Europe to Aug = 20th. From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Eric McMurry Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:24 PM To: M.Ermert Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... I'll second the Deutsches Museum in Munich. Very interesting. On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:40 , M.Ermert > wrote: Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted Lemon: On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" wrote: - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visit in = Bavaria? Kloster Andechs? Scenic _and_ they have beer. Obviously Neuschwanstein.= Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be scared shitless by rickety pl= atforms high above the city. And you _must_ go to the Deutsches Museum in= Munich. To be on "top" ;-) http://www.zugspitze.de/en/summer/berg/zugspitze/zugspitze.htm Take a roundtrip with cogwheeltrain and cable cars! And have some coffee, cake and cream down in Garmisch. _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --_000_9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DF24GAALPA1MSGUSR9C_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks All

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These and the previous al= l seem to be interesting suggestions.   I have collected them and= will be using your suggestions for plotting out my journey/adventure this weekend. We don’t plan on  having a ridged agenda,  b= ut having a good list of things to do and see will help guide our wandering= s.  After the IETF we plan to travel south,  by car,  throug= h Germany into Italy going as far as Rome.   Thus,  I will b= e extending my stay in Europe to Aug 20th.

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From: 87attend= ees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eric McMurry
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To: M.Ermert
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I'll second the Deutsches Museum in Munich.  Ve= ry interesting.

 

 

On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:40 , M.Ermert <m.ermert@gmx.de> wrote:



Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted Lemon: 

On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" <rs1983@att.com> wrote:
- What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and visi=
t in Bavaria?
Kloster Andechs?   Scenic _and_ they have beer.   =
Obviously Neuschwanstein.  Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be=
 scared shitless by rickety platforms high above the city.   And =
you _must_ go to the Deutsches Museum in Munich.



To be on "top" ;-)

= http://www.zugspitze.de/en/summer/berg/zugspitze/zugspitze.htm

Take a roundtrip with cogwheeltrain and cable cars!

And have some coffee, cake and cream down in Garmisch.




 
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--_000_9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DF24GAALPA1MSGUSR9C_-- From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Thu Jul 18 10:24:25 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80F3921E8127 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:24:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.147 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.147 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.084, BAYES_00=-2.599, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cCZ+oDRQqCbc for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:24:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cable.comcast.com (copdcavout01.cable.comcast.com [76.96.32.253]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E8011E8199 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([24.40.56.115]) by copdcavout01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id C7WM3M1.83291312; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:23:39 -0600 Received: from PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com ([169.254.8.71]) by PACDCEXHUB02.cable.comcast.com ([fe80::492e:3fa1:c2ad:e04e%13]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:24:16 -0400 From: "Livingood, Jason" To: John R Levine , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Berlin International Beer Festival Thread-Index: AQHOg9ugoOPqtTl3w0KlIeV0n02zVA== Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:24:15 +0000 Message-ID: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CB11B5@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.4.120824 x-originating-ip: [68.87.16.246] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [87attendees] Berlin International Beer Festival X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:24:25 -0000 Since I saw biergarten - I just learned this is happening after the IETF meeting: http://www.bierfestival-berlin.de/index%20eng.html (Berlin International Beer Festival) On 7/18/13 1:16 PM, "John R Levine" wrote: >Since it is likely to be pretty warm in Berlin, can anyone suggest places >to eat outside? Last year we found a very pleasant biergarten by the >Wannsee train station, but there must be closer options. > >R's, >John >_______________________________________________ >87attendees mailing list >87attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From johnl@taugh.com Thu Jul 18 10:24:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064D821E80F5 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:24:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.609 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.609 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.009, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XKqzheHW3Yvm for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:24:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07BC421E8128 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 87050 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2013 17:24:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=15409.51e824cc.k1307; bh=PFlJuhnQnlf1zzQRhXOZtCUnrPUBJb3vVxqv207ImGM=; b=QvEAn9Ggj05C05qXg2wc7LGGoCQDpRGZoG8DYeF8PCt7M+TMf3UOIhdaPnFR1OuaCLTRyjDhDY/hp+lfsdogY9z81KDfuJKWYcO7Oao0TFNRvO0C/4La+MESQznP9Vz6NSnwKqbqggsJUAp3R4N8vcapt2LKtZpk4AC+g/goRPsj4WqPnRzLCOW7QjN071kdoFtDsG6GB2zuqhsvdWUrcy9ctZ3e1NBUeXi7ev6XuajKLvNTYXpPO5chXrmMZpw/ DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=15409.51e824cc.k1307; bh=PFlJuhnQnlf1zzQRhXOZtCUnrPUBJb3vVxqv207ImGM=; b=WUsLYmxgcgiLBjRPSgWCr9fpoULA4lMFJbIN9aG7hZzFBz+kouHWcxdRER7FDHy/OdnLgiOEq1aDUOjphXmXL8ndtoro5Jy5ldzuFOjMUAHAtXTmrdvsloVLg0fw5mkZ0UtVid7LiU8YP0wEBRegZkaO80NDGayeXzOWrkqpwRRldcpK/vTb3EfdqPF6GmEKh48Iy1dza1cBhrmIpSTEBkmVFq2vhtePzW5dLLNtURpdHkQiO5vqBbA8I3UaLD8/ Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 18 Jul 2013 17:24:06 -0000 Date: 18 Jul 2013 13:24:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Murphy, Sandra" In-Reply-To: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F6749BB346@CVA-MB001.centreville.ads.sparta.com> References: <1D50D7C4-904F-43CD-B01A-1BC53D53A56C@cdt.org>, <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F6749BB346@CVA-MB001.centreville.ads.sparta.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="3825401791-1550252764-1374168268=:9893" Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Berlin airport to hotel X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:24:32 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --3825401791-1550252764-1374168268=:9893 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > I'm landing at 8am on a week day. Would the 200 bus at that time of day > be crowded? (carrying suitcase+laptop a bit much?) The X9 is said to be > an Airport Express so should not be subject to rush hour crowding. When I was in Berlin for MAAWG last year, I don't ever recall a bus that was crowded by NYC standards. The 200 runs every 10 minutes. If you're not heavily loaded, you can just walk from the Zoo station. It's about 15 minutes along Budapesterstr. R's, John > ________________________________________ > Subject: [87attendees] Berlin airport to hotel > > In case nobody's posted this yet, it is very easy to get from the airport > to the hotel on public transportation, assuming you don't have more > luggage than you can carry. > > There is a transportation desk at the airport near the exit to the bus > stops. Buy a zone AB ticket for 2,40€, go out and take the X9 bus. > Validate your ticket by sticking it in the validator on the bus. Get off > at the fifth stop at the Zoo, take the 200 bus toward Michelangelostrasse > two stops to Budapeststrasse and you'll be in front of the hotel. > > Each stop is announced and shown on displays in the bus, so it's easy to > tell where you are, even if you don't recognize the Zoo because, you know, > it's the zoo. > > If you expect to make many trips around town, I'd suggest buying a weekly > zone AB ticket at the airport for €28, which you also validate on your > first trip. You probably won't save much money compared to individual > tickets but it's much less hassle. Berlin has an integrated fare system > and the same ticket is good on buses, U-bahn (subway), and S-bahn > (regional train.) --3825401791-1550252764-1374168268=:9893-- From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Thu Jul 18 10:25:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC1711E81A2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.508 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.508 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.722, BAYES_00=-2.599, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0xwirZ4gDbIM for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cable.comcast.com (copdcavout01.cable.comcast.com [76.96.32.253]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AD8911E8171 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([24.40.56.116]) by copdcavout01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id C7WM3M1.83291454; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:24:14 -0600 Received: from PACDCEXHUB04.cable.comcast.com (24.40.56.121) by pacdcexhub03.cable.comcast.com (24.40.56.116) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.318.1; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:24:51 -0400 Received: from PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com ([169.254.8.71]) by pacdcexhub04.cable.comcast.com ([fe80::1532:d330:f9a5:c8a1%18]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:24:51 -0400 From: "Livingood, Jason" To: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Automotive Attractions Thread-Index: AQHOg9u1H/KBBg53ck2vE5szBnfUoQ== Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:24:50 +0000 Message-ID: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CB11C6@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.4.120824 x-originating-ip: [68.87.16.246] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CB11C6PACDCEXMB06cabl_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [87attendees] Automotive Attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:25:13 -0000 --_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CB11C6PACDCEXMB06cabl_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you that have a love & appreciation of cars =97 this has come = recommended (I've not yet been there). Remise Museum http://motorlife.org/classic-remise-in-berlin-workshops-and-garages/ http://motorlife.org/classic-remise-berlin-vintage-automobile-marketplace/ http://www.remise.de/Classic-Remise-Berlin-english-summary.php Jason --_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CB11C6PACDCEXMB06cabl_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <22952803B72DCE4E852C37944ACDD6CE@cable.comcast.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CB11C6PACDCEXMB06cabl_-- From eckert@cisco.com Thu Jul 18 10:32:30 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6396221F8F4F for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:32:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.526 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.526 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.073, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X0nOIpKfCYF6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F10211E81B1 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:32:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=907; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374168743; x=1375378343; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=KRyrxZDdtRod3BngnGzJZLxVdaRrhYCY7noUS8lBNQ0=; b=BXfOryCetO1whg7fR0DOoLB0Vaz3+yVquXKjtYWntOd0fxhVJzZtGbAt +s7KmmvioHtNhHWJrJ+VTtZRXF+X1RlxMYhRKsXw9CWqiw+7++aZNbUes IvSYyer8krhKmhhHniwFnRwhchlaGBIue4YJBT5EBOJXTrD0c+1BM+Inl w=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFADgl6FGrRDoI/2dsb2JhbABAGoMGNcETgRIWdIIkAQEBAQMBAQE3NAsFCwsSBgklDwUTIhQTiA8NM7V+kA8Hg3wDiSiONAGBKYp4hSyDMhw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,695,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="83884208" Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2013 17:32:23 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IHWMIO026990 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:32:22 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6IHWLQH016525; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:32:21 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r6IHWL8M016524; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:32:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:32:21 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: "Livingood, Jason" Message-ID: <20130718173221.GL23170@cisco.com> References: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CB11C6@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CB11C6@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Automotive Attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:32:30 -0000 And if you have a car, you can drive on an ex-speedrace track converted to a highway and have a restaurant meal in the control tower: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVUS On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 05:24:50PM +0000, Livingood, Jason wrote: > For those of you that have a love & appreciation of cars ? this has come recommended (I've not yet been there). > > Remise Museum > http://motorlife.org/classic-remise-in-berlin-workshops-and-garages/ > http://motorlife.org/classic-remise-berlin-vintage-automobile-marketplace/ > http://www.remise.de/Classic-Remise-Berlin-english-summary.php > > Jason > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! From Ted.Lemon@nominum.com Thu Jul 18 10:37:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A5411E81A1 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:37:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.594 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.594 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.005, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yTvtyKV-7usx for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og119.obsmtp.com (exprod7og119.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.16]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 084AE11E819D for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell-too.nominum.com ([64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob119.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUegnvGm5pR8CtDWJpr+b+rVugQ3gOy9C@postini.com; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:37:01 PDT Received: from archivist.nominum.com (archivist.nominum.com [64.89.228.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E2A1B8255 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.nominum.com (cas-02.win.nominum.com [64.89.228.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by archivist.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80F9A190060; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:37:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ted.Lemon@nominum.com) Received: from MBX-01.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.133]) by CAS-02.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.132]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:37:00 -0700 From: Ted Lemon To: "Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich)" Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... Thread-Index: AQHOg9KzgQNjoqOOFkKk7P7tIVR0OZlrKIMA Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:36:59 +0000 Message-ID: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521866E@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <51E812FA.5010804@sneuner.org> <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B218E@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> In-Reply-To: <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B218E@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <49D78737AAE2D640BC48463A4310D890@nominum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:37:07 -0000 On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:19 AM, "Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich)" wrote: > Rothenburg ob der Tauber is another nice example of a well-preserved hist= oric European town=20 > (going back to medieval ages, including a city wall in excellent conditio= n, on top of which=20 > you can walk around the inner town). As a seven-year-old, I thought this place was just beyond cool. I suspect= I would like it even more now. It didn't hurt that we went on a day when t= here'd been a light snow the previous night, so the whole place was covered= in frosting. From rs1983@att.com Thu Jul 18 10:37:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD47A11E81B1 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:37:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id md5FoZ2ZD0Ri for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com (nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com [209.65.160.94]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A491B11E81A0 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown [144.160.20.145] (EHLO nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com) by nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.15.0-1) with ESMTP id 6e728e15.2aaab8f0f940.6510918.00-512.18106639.nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:37:42 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 51e827e65531ce26-a9a18fa869b361e45df77f44738c7b8a5d18f53f Received: from unknown [144.160.20.145] (EHLO mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com) by nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com(mxl_mta-6.15.0-1) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 5e728e15.0.6510911.00-496.18106608.nbfkord-smmo06.seg.att.com (envelope-from ); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:37:42 +0000 (UTC) X-MXL-Hash: 51e827e653eb393d-e9b0fa3bb7462a08ac31cd19c01a3335f23b5a36 Received: from enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IHbf4K005600; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:37:41 -0400 Received: from alpi132.aldc.att.com (alpi132.aldc.att.com [130.8.217.2]) by mlpd192.enaf.sfdc.sbc.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IHbYQF005555 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:37:37 -0400 Received: from GAALPA1MSGHUB9C.ITServices.sbc.com (gaalpa1msghub9c.itservices.sbc.com [130.8.36.89]) by alpi132.aldc.att.com (RSA Interceptor); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:37:18 GMT Received: from gaalpa1msgusr9c.ITServices.sbc.com ([130.8.36.60]) by GAALPA1MSGHUB9C.ITServices.sbc.com ([130.8.36.89]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:37:17 -0400 From: "SAYKO, ROBERT J" To: Toerless Eckert , "Livingood, Jason" Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Automotive Attractions Thread-Index: AQHOg9u1H/KBBg53ck2vE5szBnfUoZlq9NqA//++NvA= Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:37:16 +0000 Message-ID: <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DF96@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> References: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CB11C6@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> <20130718173221.GL23170@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <20130718173221.GL23170@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.91.72.239] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RSA-Inspected: yes X-RSA-Classifications: public X-Spam: [F=0.2000000000; CM=0.500; S=0.200(2010122901)] X-MAIL-FROM: X-SOURCE-IP: [144.160.20.145] X-AnalysisOut: [v=2.0 cv=R5y076tX c=1 sm=0 a=ZRNLZ4dFUbCvG8UMqPvVAA==:17 a] X-AnalysisOut: [=-jjePzZUJNgA:10 a=xfWjJOC4A9UA:10 a=ofMgfj31e3cA:10 a=BLc] X-AnalysisOut: [eEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zQP7CpKOAAAA:8 a=XIqpo32R] X-AnalysisOut: [AAAA:8 a=Bc-rFCyyzQIA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=8pif782wAAAA:8] X-AnalysisOut: [ a=HO3aoWztAAAA:8 a=5wdVqKJiAAAA:8 a=AUd_NHdVAAAA:8 a=oakp] X-AnalysisOut: [5mAUUTojWzcMl90A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=I0t325fS9pcA:10 a=l] X-AnalysisOut: [ZB815dzVvQA:10 a=JfD0Fch1gWkA:10] Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Automotive Attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:37:48 -0000 Ja, wir fahren fahren auf die autobahn. -----Original Message----- From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Toerless Eckert Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:32 PM To: Livingood, Jason Cc: 87 attendees Subject: Re: [87attendees] Automotive Attractions And if you have a car, you can drive on an ex-speedrace track converted to a highway and have a restaurant meal in the control tower: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVUS On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 05:24:50PM +0000, Livingood, Jason wrote: > For those of you that have a love & appreciation of cars ? this has come = recommended (I've not yet been there). >=20 > Remise Museum > http://motorlife.org/classic-remise-in-berlin-workshops-and-garages/ > http://motorlife.org/classic-remise-berlin-vintage-automobile-marketplace= / > http://www.remise.de/Classic-Remise-Berlin-english-summary.php >=20 > Jason >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --=20 --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From Ted.Lemon@nominum.com Thu Jul 18 10:38:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7C521E8150 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:38:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.594 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.594 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.005, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 60jkIQE9ffZ0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og102.obsmtp.com (exprod7og102.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.157]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F8211E81A0 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell-too.nominum.com ([64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob102.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUegoC2W387FbYlgUg3BIdGqKL1cMVNIA@postini.com; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:38:20 PDT Received: from archivist.nominum.com (archivist.nominum.com [64.89.228.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1071B825A for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.nominum.com (cas-01.win.nominum.com [64.89.228.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by archivist.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 950C5190060; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:38:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ted.Lemon@nominum.com) Received: from MBX-01.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.133]) by CAS-01.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.131]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:38:19 -0700 From: Ted Lemon To: Eric McMurry Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... Thread-Index: AQHOg8orB7NHQ/qT1kKoMZ48Na4sZplrB+kAgAAMSACAABTDAA== Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:38:19 +0000 Message-ID: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> In-Reply-To: <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <325B297568F8B641A98A40DF5A1BA721@nominum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "M.Ermert" , "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:38:33 -0000 On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Eric McMurry wrote: > I'll second the Deutsches Museum in Munich. Very interesting. BTW, this is a science museum, not an art museum, just to be clear. Lots = of cool exhibits, some of them loud and sparky. From eckert@cisco.com Thu Jul 18 10:59:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CB021E8158 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:59:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.53 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RtA7hCL0d1ps for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-1.cisco.com (mtv-iport-1.cisco.com [173.36.130.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A56921E814E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:59:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1917; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374170395; x=1375379995; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=j75UNLsYjhLPD7fwdNZuZLz4KON5sGENiL+uoixDL5I=; b=LLMniajbblFQxc4XMtnUftB4QBNNmctJTBFxamAKNHFDu/aHPu9XFoy1 jzEHqLKdxJ865mCbub67NXLuZlzJgA+INiecBWlt95pSz1ebjGLZMb+BS Aop2tbWd+ZlMjZOwp+FFg+axRYNiKv8NUHbLpO/eLwEcr5Ig/7QQIt6vG s=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhEFAHss6FGrRDoH/2dsb2JhbABAGoMGNcETgRIWdIIkAQEBAQMBAQE3NAsMBAsRAQMBAQEJHgcPBRMfAwYOE4gPDTO1f5APBwaDdgOJKI40AYEpiniFLIMyHA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,695,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="83377170" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2013 17:59:51 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IHxow5013772 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:59:50 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6IHxomf017738; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:59:50 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r6IHxnXv017736; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:59:49 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:59:49 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: "SAYKO, ROBERT J" Message-ID: <20130718175949.GN23170@cisco.com> References: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CB11C6@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> <20130718173221.GL23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DF96@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DF96@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, "Livingood, Jason" Subject: Re: [87attendees] Automotive Attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:59:59 -0000 I think you would naturally drive across it going down to Bavaria, check out google maps. No idea what if anything interesting is to see there right now, it's mostly a well known historic site. Maybe the motel/restaurant has some museum or the like.. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 05:37:16PM +0000, SAYKO, ROBERT J wrote: > > Ja, wir fahren fahren auf die autobahn. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Toerless Eckert > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:32 PM > To: Livingood, Jason > Cc: 87 attendees > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Automotive Attractions > > And if you have a car, you can drive on an ex-speedrace track > converted to a highway and have a restaurant meal in the control tower: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVUS > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 05:24:50PM +0000, Livingood, Jason wrote: > > For those of you that have a love & appreciation of cars ? this has come recommended (I've not yet been there). > > > > Remise Museum > > http://motorlife.org/classic-remise-in-berlin-workshops-and-garages/ > > http://motorlife.org/classic-remise-berlin-vintage-automobile-marketplace/ > > http://www.remise.de/Classic-Remise-Berlin-english-summary.php > > > > Jason > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > -- > --- > Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com > Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture > SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! From eckert@cisco.com Thu Jul 18 11:03:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A697411E81A1 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.534 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.534 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C5xftFQFMJZX for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3496911E816E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:03:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=688; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374170621; x=1375380221; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=bS80qUvFyAhx3L95oSeAg+V6btFt75Xfvy7YEn/kT04=; b=H9qlLcMahM/eRc753LJmIa+dAnYTnflP0zajOoMOzwqB37yiYeABhs/S +qOyv+Fm08rciVbfUi1B0VoxDlsguh2DUk9o6t0QhmmD3OxHR6bAMNmwA ZaUY1DIFi7gC/Ax2x+PZTp9iqhYLGrTsOdXITdGFSCjLWAX3dQZZMensF I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFAKct6FGrRDoH/2dsb2JhbABagwY1wROBEhZ0giQBAQEBAwEBATc0CxALGAklDwUTNhOIDw22N5APB4N8A4kojjQBkU2DMhw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,695,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="83885681" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2013 18:03:40 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6II3eDe016118 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 18:03:40 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6II3e4A017933; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:03:40 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r6II3dQ2017932; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:03:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:03:39 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: Ted Lemon Message-ID: <20130718180339.GP23170@cisco.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "M.Ermert" , "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Eric McMurry Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 18:03:45 -0000 Or if you're into cars probably this one: http://www-1.bmw-welt.com/web_rb/bmw-welt/en/guided_tours/bmw_factory_tour.html Haven't done it myself. Been around VW too long to go BMW ;-)) On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 05:38:19PM +0000, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Jul 18, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Eric McMurry wrote: > > I'll second the Deutsches Museum in Munich. Very interesting. > > BTW, this is a science museum, not an art museum, just to be clear. Lots of cool exhibits, some of them loud and sparky. > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From johnl@taugh.com Thu Jul 18 11:52:58 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A3511E81C6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:52:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.914, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SARE_SPEC_REPLICA_OBFU=1.812] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uuzCjy1Kcyqi for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E95111E81BD for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8387 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2013 18:52:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=20c2.51e8397a.k1307; bh=noHVTXcJ08yy0hoITe9Sk2ytcRWHVA49q3CQkev+TLE=; b=wAwnGBZUEGy0FKYabXMNXztNYmCC5JpRb8VxtgmdbN7GtH0d8pHDjbifALWqVWVVSSfdhKecrbjOubdiQjMnY4EtGTn4fFSQuf381fhgiTKak1q9NhQVsP/NaYVuy4g4U5V743twDr4puQSpFlTQg6qXWjAcup4iIdgXjXQ9xTFfZfb5dhwd+DD2gn7pxKBP2kZ3RgwTkZtk3x15Yd5nkJXbive9geZLjp0Kijfi3gwmTVHOsPrYkHJlrSO5fdwc DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=20c2.51e8397a.k1307; bh=noHVTXcJ08yy0hoITe9Sk2ytcRWHVA49q3CQkev+TLE=; b=ua/ehmcP6Xx5FJDNOiXSL71SiVcbMnAu4xn9ALnCK+Y7A3o5ndcN63n4cjpDPtyZwEFYQhx5aatgeFoG/dKfFCniHtmc7HWYvWGNsgrGhM/u2sOlunSATllvqO+ueiDB4i96YDf4iM/qfOAsxynwiOoMjlJQcEdPo2nXyy2O59RiNNl3VMryCmgO5+AZY3eWXEvMHYn2bHC98Gk84RQzpuY1VGnyD6+Qz48CR30HgiMtPaIeM4XYrJT5Rny8e+Ng Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 18 Jul 2013 18:52:19 -0000 Date: 18 Jul 2013 14:52:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Ted Lemon" In-Reply-To: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 18:52:58 -0000 >> I'll second the Deutsches Museum in Munich. Very interesting. > > BTW, this is a science museum, not an art museum, just to be clear. Lots of cool exhibits, some of them loud and sparky. Science, technology, and the history of both. Don't miss Konrad Zuse's Z3, the world's first programmable computer, built out of relays. The original was built in 1941, we blew it up in 1943, and the one on display is a replica that Zuse built in the 1960s. It does arithmetic in binary floating point, by the way. R's, John From ole@cisco.com Thu Jul 18 13:16:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EBA11E81A1 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:16:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3LNZFojzKnS6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1EBF11E8158 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:16:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=871; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374178575; x=1375388175; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=nYlySfSuKcJs4S0kv31pxSC5XRNtGCSxDUh4pHHGXa4=; b=WTMFPNtYLrQGtfB0EhHPIeLuTpxE9GorIBZ4acRb8gChrbX2LASfxNgU MuEhD2HiyyvpAhCIv86cNbXpziAkHz8s2UldB6CdhjkkfR7kwlDU1HtVm Wcgctwc2I4VTwvhYjGcKKl67CzmpnGWgL2yljf4IrWn1oWG0XONvoUnXB 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFAJdM6FGQ/khN/2dsb2JhbABXAxaCcDXBFoETFnSCJQEBBDo/EFFXBhOIEAy2AY5dgTIHEYNrA4kolFiGB4UjgzIcgTU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,696,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="157018771" Received: from ams-core-4.cisco.com ([144.254.72.77]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2013 20:16:12 +0000 Received: from [10.27.1.132] (sjc-ole-8913.cisco.com [10.27.1.132]) by ams-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IKG8xv031495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:16:10 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:16:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: John R Levine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Ted Lemon Subject: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:16:20 -0000 If you have time: Take the train to Leipzig (on your way to or from Berlin to/from Frankfurt). The Thomaskirche where J. S. Bach is buried dates from 1212: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Thomas_Church,_Leipzig http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/LEIPZIG/Bach_Organ.html The Nicolaikirche is equally impressive. And Dresden: Wonderfully restored after heavy bombing during WWII, very much worth a visit too. Other historic places along the Frankfurt - Berlin (not so direct) route include Eisenach, Weimar, Efurt, Naumburg, Altenburg and Lutherstadt Wittenberg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation See you in Berlin! Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo From jhildebr@cisco.com Thu Jul 18 13:21:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA7511E8199 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:21:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.635 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.635 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S6csNrFpDgPj for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com [173.37.86.75]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6808711E81A1 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:21:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1371; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374178864; x=1375388464; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to: content-id:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=nop5DwOtxhTcfLv0qiDdXXkyzSJj2/LK63+mwIlxivU=; b=P3ItrMam0Otg+DoEUFj6Mq/NeceUYHQdCu0bA573IBCPTTyA9LygAV1+ Dn5pZJrrgWzyKd/SGZJCPhglroK6Cij2hUmWl94eV5X909TU4NMoEOoXl tGfJVuyMlVFBwI1MgCqR8y4l/o0sW277ww50R+mDO40rh41gqJL6ZBTg7 U=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIFAIhN6FGtJV2b/2dsb2JhbABXAxaCcDVQwEaBExZ0giYBAQMBAQE3NAsSAQgiFDcLJQIEAQ0FCIgIDLV+jl2BASEQAgURgn1uA6QHhSODEoFxOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,696,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="236717531" Received: from rcdn-core-4.cisco.com ([173.37.93.155]) by rcdn-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2013 20:21:04 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x13.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x13.cisco.com [173.37.183.87]) by rcdn-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IKL317003231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:21:03 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x10.cisco.com ([169.254.15.56]) by xhc-rcd-x13.cisco.com ([173.37.183.87]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:21:03 -0500 From: "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" To: "Ole Jacobsen (ole)" , John R Levine Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Saxony attractions Thread-Index: AQHOg/OunIBF/Y5hJES1TN66wyDgcZlqz/cA Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:21:03 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.5.130515 x-originating-ip: [10.129.24.242] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2A1DCC0A3EB28740A7AE8F6D8FE02C7D@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Ted Lemon Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:21:09 -0000 In Leipzig, if you are a beer drinker, please try the Gose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gose). We had some at Ohne Bedenken (http://www.gosenschenke.de/en/) which drank like a sessionable Belgian Sour. Tasty. On 7/18/13 2:16 PM, "Ole Jacobsen (ole)" wrote: > >If you have time: Take the train to Leipzig (on your way to or from >Berlin to/from Frankfurt). The Thomaskirche where J. S. Bach is buried >dates from 1212: > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Thomas_Church,_Leipzig > >http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/LEIPZIG/Bach_Organ.html > >The Nicolaikirche is equally impressive. > >And Dresden: Wonderfully restored after heavy bombing during WWII, >very much worth a visit too. > >Other historic places along the Frankfurt - Berlin (not so direct) >route include Eisenach, Weimar, Efurt, Naumburg, Altenburg and >Lutherstadt Wittenberg. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation > >See you in Berlin! > >Ole J. Jacobsen >Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal >Cisco Systems >Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 >E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >Skype: organdemo > > >_______________________________________________ >87attendees mailing list >87attendees@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > --=20 Joe Hildebrand From ole@cisco.com Thu Jul 18 13:26:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741A111E8183 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:26:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aX2vgRc7RgiL for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-4.cisco.com (ams-iport-4.cisco.com [144.254.224.147]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F6E421E8096 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:26:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=409; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374179187; x=1375388787; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=/nKQNFTaLfsZT+uUtp2phfl1TYtnFZEYoq+zgz1k8eQ=; b=h4FELT33fMDku7DLQ68Gm+0qEAxD+8vDI4I23dcHD9w9tNBWcvmDY0GF /Gb4j9tJZmfMzTKG/dw/ued8pvLUNStTFDXOfyTVZI7BQGNpqShakPB6s tpZUMWWcQNyYm/jwBS3s7Adc1iX15Z9TG4Z2yG2LOJhOoBkc2f3BNi+Km 0=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,696,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="16027482" Received: from ams-core-3.cisco.com ([144.254.72.76]) by ams-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2013 20:26:26 +0000 Received: from [10.27.1.132] (sjc-ole-8913.cisco.com [10.27.1.132]) by ams-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IKQLND009465 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:26:23 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:26:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: "Joe Hildebrand (jhildebr)" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, John R Levine , Ted Lemon Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:26:32 -0000 And I forgot to say: If you'd like to try a "new" restaurant in Leipzig, go to the Auerbachs Keller. They only opened in 1525 :-) http://www.auerbachs-keller-leipzig.de/#panel-tab-id2 Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo From amorris@amsl.com Thu Jul 18 13:34:02 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD4E11E81B5 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:34:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5A7odDQ2+TQc for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:126c::1:15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F87211E81A4 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c9a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6468FA8A58; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:33:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com Received: from c9a.amsl.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (c9a.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YizclL_PCYUk; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [64.170.98.186] (unknown [64.170.98.186]) by c9a.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4425DA8A57; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-735450014 From: Alexa Morris In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:34:01 -0700 Message-Id: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> References: To: Brian Dickson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:34:02 -0000 --Apple-Mail-11-735450014 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Brian, I certainly understand your frustration, however the attendance limit = was set by the venue itself and is due to fire regulations so there is = nothing that can be done at this time. However quite frequently some = attendees find that at the last moment they are unable to use the = tickets they purchased, so perhaps you may still be fortunate enough to = secure one (or two) when we are onsite. Kind regards, Alexa On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Brian Dickson wrote: > I just noticed that the social event sold out. >=20 > However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating: >=20 > Attendees: 1339 (as of now) > Tickets: 475 (limited to 1+1 for attendee + guest). >=20 > This means the potential demand would have been 2678, vs 475 = available, and even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475. >=20 > I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit, but it would be nice = if the host (DENIC) could consider either increasing (if that is = possible) the available tickets, or adding another venue for those = unable to get tickets. >=20 > My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't some social for us to go to. = (!!!). >=20 > Is anyone from either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, = able to address this, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to the venue = itself? >=20 > Respectfully, > Brian > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com --Apple-Mail-11-735450014 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I just = noticed that the social event sold out.

However, now = that I see the following numbers, I find it = frustrating:

Attendees: 1339 (as of = now)
Tickets: 475 (limited to 1+1 for attendee + guest).

This means the potential demand would have been = 2678, vs 475 available, and even best case demand (without the +1) of = 1337 vs 475.

I realize there may be reasons for = the 475 limit, but it would be nice if the host (DENIC) could consider = either increasing (if that is possible) the available tickets, or adding = another venue for those unable to get tickets.

My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't some social = for us to go to. (!!!).

Is anyone from either = the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, able to address this, = please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to the venue itself?

Respectfully,
Brian
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= --Apple-Mail-11-735450014-- From laser.ru@gmail.com Thu Jul 18 13:52:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5456E21E80F9 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:52:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.766 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.766 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.833, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EFbDOCo8i2r5 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com (mail-we0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2254021E808F for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id w56so3327696wes.39 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:52:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=E/Hoyag6/+3Y+TwAqGTtGaBeuMh9FokbVcizqlgw+1Q=; b=FRkQehcqzsk3vRR5izdFufU+99McZg+CZbML5Rs2fFMTzkcYXC26o+caKD6av4OZrU MhDT4iAGKwqeiGZSUUXg1a+Ve9FnqFXxfsTX68TPOc1V8yWapEjc9KH9SzLO1AR32A/U 0JM29womzsN5sRY1iiEOznLNQrJca7dYKp0wvkdyBUTYbTWz3OvX++3YEWio6XgHjM9E IXHxHAUzkHgaVDDN5jVT+J2fDWy/124f0H6r1+sXCfCqKyRJikzohyN3hykvcAS/j6ce pP7qdQjZE/sYGNUwQ73BVn1Ya3D4DvDO3y7RYcsOmi7eSaX3TZa7TtIzDmN4nABGk9DH 5cmw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.89.231 with SMTP id br7mr20756505wib.19.1374180725248; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.56.8 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 13:52:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> References: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:52:05 +0400 Message-ID: From: Andrey Lukyanenko To: Alexa Morris Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3ba255fc598104e1cf6115 Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Brian Dickson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:52:21 -0000 --e89a8f3ba255fc598104e1cf6115 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Alexa, If the venue is highly limited in space, what is the reason to choose the venue? Just a rhetorical question.... Best regards, Andrey Lukyanenko. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Alexa Morris wrote: > Brian, > > I certainly understand your frustration, however the attendance limit was > set by the venue itself and is due to fire regulations so there is nothing > that can be done at this time. However quite frequently some attendees find > that at the last moment they are unable to use the tickets they purchased, > so perhaps you may still be fortunate enough to secure one (or two) when we > are onsite. > > Kind regards, > Alexa > > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Brian Dickson wrote: > > I just noticed that the social event sold out. > > However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating: > > Attendees: 1339 (as of now) > Tickets: 475 (limited to 1+1 for attendee + guest). > > This means the potential demand would have been 2678, vs 475 available, > and even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475. > > I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit, but it would be nice if > the host (DENIC) could consider either increasing (if that is possible) the > available tickets, or adding another venue for those unable to get tickets. > > My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't some social for us to go to. > (!!!). > > Is anyone from either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, able > to address this, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to the venue itself? > > Respectfully, > Brian > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > ---------- > Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 > Email: amorris@amsl.com > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > www.amsl.com > > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > --e89a8f3ba255fc598104e1cf6115 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alexa,

If the venue is highly lim= ited in space, what is the reason to choose the venue? Just a=C2=A0rhetoric= al question....

Best regards,
Andrey = Lukyanenko.


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Alexa = Morris <amorris@amsl.com> wrote:
Brian,

I certainly u= nderstand your frustration, however the attendance limit was set by the ven= ue itself and is due to fire regulations so there is nothing that can be do= ne at this time. However quite frequently some attendees find that at the l= ast moment they are unable to use the tickets they purchased, so perhaps yo= u may still be fortunate enough to secure one (or two) when we are onsite.<= /div>

Kind regards,
Alexa

=
On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Brian Dickson wrote:<= /div>
I just noticed that the social event sold out.

However, = now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating:

=
Attendees: 1339 (as of now)
Tickets: 475 (limited to 1= +1 for attendee + guest).

This means the potential demand would have been 2678, v= s 475 available, and even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475.=

I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit,= but it would be nice if the host (DENIC) could consider either increasing = (if that is possible) the available tickets, or adding another venue for th= ose unable to get tickets.

My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't = some social for us to go to. (!!!).

Is anyone from= either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, able to address thi= s, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to the venue itself?

Respectfully,
Brian
_______________________________________________
87attendees mailing list=
87attendees@i= etf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees

----------
Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF
48377 Fremont Blv= d., Suite 117, Fremont, CA =C2=A094538
Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.= 510.492.4001
Email:=C2=A0amorris@amsl.com

Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS)
Forum Management, = Meeting and Event Planning
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--e89a8f3ba255fc598104e1cf6115-- From ynir@checkpoint.com Thu Jul 18 14:04:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350E311E820A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:04:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.565 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.565 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.033, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SiGHZzqVDIWF for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37AE511E8203 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from IL-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([194.29.34.147]) by smtp.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6IL4Brp032382; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:04:11 +0300 X-CheckPoint: {51E8584B-4-1B221DC2-1FFFF} Received: from DAG-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([169.254.3.48]) by IL-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([169.254.2.91]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:04:10 +0300 From: Yoav Nir To: Andrey Lukyanenko Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event Thread-Index: AQHOg9p11RGVWooAJUmfmyUt6X34oJlqskaAgAAFDICAAANfgA== Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:04:10 +0000 Message-ID: References: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.31.20.210] x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: protection disabled x-cpdlp: 110a9e9e4eac46d75836cbf50c50384c615ee75a10 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_EEB0CDD11582420A95B063321B5A1BA7checkpointcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Alexa Morris , Brian Dickson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:04:35 -0000 --_000_EEB0CDD11582420A95B063321B5A1BA7checkpointcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andrey Typically, only a small portion of attendees go to the social. You usually = do get a few looking for tickets just before, but there's plenty of people = not going even when unlimited tickets are available. Yoav On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Andrey Lukyanenko > wrote: Alexa, If the venue is highly limited in space, what is the reason to choose the v= enue? Just a rhetorical question.... Best regards, Andrey Lukyanenko. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Alexa Morris > wrote: Brian, I certainly understand your frustration, however the attendance limit was s= et by the venue itself and is due to fire regulations so there is nothing t= hat can be done at this time. However quite frequently some attendees find = that at the last moment they are unable to use the tickets they purchased, = so perhaps you may still be fortunate enough to secure one (or two) when we= are onsite. Kind regards, Alexa On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Brian Dickson wrote: I just noticed that the social event sold out. However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating: Attendees: 1339 (as of now) Tickets: 475 (limited to 1+1 for attendee + guest). This means the potential demand would have been 2678, vs 475 available, and= even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475. I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit, but it would be nice if t= he host (DENIC) could consider either increasing (if that is possible) the = available tickets, or adding another venue for those unable to get tickets. My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't some social for us to go to. (!!!)= . Is anyone from either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, able = to address this, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to the venue itself? Respectfully, Brian _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --_000_EEB0CDD11582420A95B063321B5A1BA7checkpointcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andrey

Typically, only a small portion of attendees go to the social. You usu= ally do get a few looking for tickets just before, but there's plenty of pe= ople not going even when unlimited tickets are available.

Yoav

On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Andrey Lukyanenko <laser.ru@gmail.com> wrote:

Alexa,

If the venue is highly limited in space, what is the reason to choose the v= enue? Just a rhetorical question....

Best regards,
Andrey Lukyanenko.


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Alexa Morris <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <amorris@amsl.com<= /a>> wrote:
Brian,

I certainly understand your frustration, however the attendance limit = was set by the venue itself and is due to fire regulations so there is noth= ing that can be done at this time. However quite frequently some attendees = find that at the last moment they are unable to use the tickets they purchased, so perhaps you may still be = fortunate enough to secure one (or two) when we are onsite.

Kind regards,
Alexa


On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Brian Dickson wrote:

I just noticed that the social event sold out.

However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating:<= /div>

Attendees: 1339 (as of now)
Tickets: 475 (limited to 1+1 for attendee + guest).

This means the potential demand would have been 2678, vs 475 available= , and even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475.

I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit, but it would be nice= if the host (DENIC) could consider either increasing (if that is possible)= the available tickets, or adding another venue for those unable to get tic= kets.

My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't some social for= us to go to. (!!!).

Is anyone from either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, = able to address this, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to th= e venue itself?

Respectfully,
Brian
_______________________________________________
87attendees mailing list
87attendees@ietf.= org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees

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48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA  94538
Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001
Email: amorris@a= msl.com

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--_000_EEB0CDD11582420A95B063321B5A1BA7checkpointcom_-- From laser.ru@gmail.com Thu Jul 18 14:15:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4199C11E8209 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:15:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.183 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.183 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.417, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 060o2XVyDGrV for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:15:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com (mail-wi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54DA11E820B for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hj3so7146491wib.10 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gPgdW3HRY7kGoDwYMVgGZ8joBww9nmo7E0zU0v0isN0=; b=KcBt+6rzmcEffyIujOkRXfjhL1JyQdhB7MxUEKgzfy9ood23SO8D4UJCYtY5EhQ1uo 4qhzsLUj3S1jPUHwxuE+EBRFnOEVHSQOdDP5Qot7tOZd6R5y+WjWL91vTwGKf4mj4dwW zCONpTdQ/ZlnjkuHhL17xHu8Pgbi++Y17XMHuJKYIztPpQj0IP7MqGxqrgmCa0ceAmeV PwDEHNtZHKOXcHMwnO8tpHM8UIxgnt9zr24473ljMGif6p99CzW+QSDcJRpNLW5/PXgs aqas74+JoReI7WQFukuceUqIyKlcTRRusdl/dfZpo65JzMegvV0SCMLX2uoLg+4t1xUK CvVQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.24.40 with SMTP id r8mr9804158wjf.7.1374182105006; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.56.8 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:15:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 01:15:04 +0400 Message-ID: From: Andrey Lukyanenko To: Yoav Nir Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d352839cb9c04e1cfb48e Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Alexa Morris , Brian Dickson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:15:19 -0000 --047d7b5d352839cb9c04e1cfb48e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Yoav, Historical note based on IETF 86: ~1200 attendees, 550 tickets... sold out very fast. Now: ~1300 attendees, 475 tickets. Limited budget may be a better explanation. Best regards, Andrey Lukyanenko. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Yoav Nir wrote: > Hi Andrey > > Typically, only a small portion of attendees go to the social. You > usually do get a few looking for tickets just before, but there's plenty of > people not going even when unlimited tickets are available. > > Yoav > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Andrey Lukyanenko > wrote: > > Alexa, > > If the venue is highly limited in space, what is the reason to choose the > venue? Just a rhetorical question.... > > Best regards, > Andrey Lukyanenko. > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Alexa Morris wrote: > >> Brian, >> >> I certainly understand your frustration, however the attendance limit >> was set by the venue itself and is due to fire regulations so there is >> nothing that can be done at this time. However quite frequently some >> attendees find that at the last moment they are unable to use the tickets >> they purchased, so perhaps you may still be fortunate enough to secure one >> (or two) when we are onsite. >> >> Kind regards, >> Alexa >> >> >> On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Brian Dickson wrote: >> >> I just noticed that the social event sold out. >> >> However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating: >> >> Attendees: 1339 (as of now) >> Tickets: 475 (limited to 1+1 for attendee + guest). >> >> This means the potential demand would have been 2678, vs 475 available, >> and even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475. >> >> I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit, but it would be nice >> if the host (DENIC) could consider either increasing (if that is possible) >> the available tickets, or adding another venue for those unable to get >> tickets. >> >> My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't some social for us to go to. >> (!!!). >> >> Is anyone from either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, >> able to address this, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to the venue >> itself? >> >> Respectfully, >> Brian >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> >> >> ---------- >> Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF >> 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 >> Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 >> Email: amorris@amsl.com >> >> Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) >> Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning >> www.amsl.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > --047d7b5d352839cb9c04e1cfb48e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Yoav,

Historical note based on IETF = 86: ~1200 attendees, 550 tickets... sold out very fast.=C2=A0
Now= : ~1300 attendees, 475 tickets.

Limited budget may= be a better explanation.



= Best regards,
Andrey Lukyanenko.


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Yoav Ni= r <ynir@checkpoint.com> wrote:
Hi Andrey

Typically, only a small portion of attendees go to the social. You usu= ally do get a few looking for tickets just before, but there's plenty o= f people not going even when unlimited tickets are available.

Yoav

On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Andrey Lukyanenko <laser.ru@gmail.com> wrote:
Alexa,

If the venue is highly limited in space, what is the reason to choose the v= enue? Just a=C2=A0rhetorical question....

Best regards,
Andrey Lukyanenko.


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Alexa Morris <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <amorris@amsl.com<= /a>> wrote:
Brian,

I certainly understand your frustration, however the attendance limit = was set by the venue itself and is due to fire regulations so there is noth= ing that can be done at this time. However quite frequently some attendees = find that at the last moment they are unable to use the tickets they purchased, so perhaps you may still be = fortunate enough to secure one (or two) when we are onsite.

Kind regards,
Alexa


On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Brian Dickson wrote:

I just noticed that the social event sold out.

However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating:<= /div>

Attendees: 1339 (as of now)
Tickets: 475 (limited to 1+1 for attendee + guest).

This means the potential demand would have been 2678, vs 475 available= , and even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475.

I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit, but it would be nice= if the host (DENIC) could consider either increasing (if that is possible)= the available tickets, or adding another venue for those unable to get tic= kets.

My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't some social for= us to go to. (!!!).

Is anyone from either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, = able to address this, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to th= e venue itself?

Respectfully,
Brian
_______________________________________________
87attendees mailing list
87attendees@ietf.= org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees

----------
Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF
48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA =C2=A094538
Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001
Email:=C2=A0amorris@a= msl.com

Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS)
Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning
www.amsl.com=C2=A0&l= t;http://www.amsl.com/>


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--047d7b5d352839cb9c04e1cfb48e-- From adam@nostrum.com Thu Jul 18 14:19:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4944D11E8214 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:19:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IhW8a5UQDMLU for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02D811E8212 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:19:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Orochi.local (99-152-145-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.145.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r6ILIlTd037846 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:18:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) Message-ID: <51E85BB1.7090600@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:18:41 -0500 From: Adam Roach User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrey Lukyanenko References: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 99.152.145.110 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Alexa Morris , Yoav Nir , Brian Dickson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:19:13 -0000 On 7/18/13 16:15, Andrey Lukyanenko wrote: > Hi Yoav, > > Historical note based on IETF 86: ~1200 attendees, 550 tickets... sold > out very fast. > Now: ~1300 attendees, 475 tickets. That's an unfair comparison. IETF 86 had, hands-down, the most awesome social in the history of IETF socials. If you want to argue from data, look at historical trends. /a From ynir@checkpoint.com Thu Jul 18 14:21:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5813D11E8218 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:21:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.566 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.566 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.032, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EXOqhSNEbteL for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341A011E8209 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from IL-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([194.29.34.147]) by smtp.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6ILKmPg003969; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:20:48 +0300 X-CheckPoint: {51E85C30-0-1B221DC2-1FFFF} Received: from DAG-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([169.254.3.48]) by IL-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([169.254.2.91]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:20:47 +0300 From: Yoav Nir To: Andrey Lukyanenko Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event Thread-Index: AQHOg9p11RGVWooAJUmfmyUt6X34oJlqskaAgAAFDICAAANfgIAAAw0AgAABlwA= Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:20:47 +0000 Message-ID: <06D64CE3-2112-4434-9A6A-FB09CA2B5BB2@checkpoint.com> References: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.31.20.210] x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: protection disabled x-cpdlp: 11c09bbfc84863e6b9ad12314e0f4901ce1fd18d5b Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_06D64CE3211244349A6AFB09CA2B5BB2checkpointcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Alexa Morris , Brian Dickson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:21:21 -0000 --_000_06D64CE3211244349A6AFB09CA2B5BB2checkpointcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm guessing that they want to fill the venue, because otherwise the ticket= sales don't cover as much of the cost as they intended. There have been socials where tickets were still available on Tuesday morni= ng. On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Andrey Lukyanenko > wrote: Hi Yoav, Historical note based on IETF 86: ~1200 attendees, 550 tickets... sold out = very fast. Now: ~1300 attendees, 475 tickets. Limited budget may be a better explanation. Best regards, Andrey Lukyanenko. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Yoav Nir > wrote: Hi Andrey Typically, only a small portion of attendees go to the social. You usually = do get a few looking for tickets just before, but there's plenty of people = not going even when unlimited tickets are available. Yoav On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Andrey Lukyanenko > wrote: Alexa, If the venue is highly limited in space, what is the reason to choose the v= enue? Just a rhetorical question.... Best regards, Andrey Lukyanenko. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Alexa Morris > wrote: Brian, I certainly understand your frustration, however the attendance limit was s= et by the venue itself and is due to fire regulations so there is nothing t= hat can be done at this time. However quite frequently some attendees find = that at the last moment they are unable to use the tickets they purchased, = so perhaps you may still be fortunate enough to secure one (or two) when we= are onsite. Kind regards, Alexa On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Brian Dickson wrote: I just noticed that the social event sold out. However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating: Attendees: 1339 (as of now) Tickets: 475 (limited to 1+1 for attendee + guest). This means the potential demand would have been 2678, vs 475 available, and= even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475. I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit, but it would be nice if t= he host (DENIC) could consider either increasing (if that is possible) the = available tickets, or adding another venue for those unable to get tickets. My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't some social for us to go to. (!!!)= . Is anyone from either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, able = to address this, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to the venue itself? Respectfully, Brian _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees ---------- Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 Email: amorris@amsl.com Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning www.amsl.com _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees Email secured by Check Point --_000_06D64CE3211244349A6AFB09CA2B5BB2checkpointcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm guessing that they want to fill the venue, because otherwise the ticket= sales don't cover as much of the cost as they intended.

There have been socials where tickets were still available on Tuesday = morning.

On Jul 19, 2013, at 12:15 AM, Andrey Lukyanenko <laser.ru@gmail.com>
 wrote:

Hi Yoav,

Historical note based on IETF 86: ~1200 attendees, 550 tickets... sold= out very fast. 
Now: ~1300 attendees, 475 tickets.

Limited budget may be a better explanation.



Best regards,
Andrey Lukyanenko.


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoin= t.com> wrote:
Hi Andrey

Typically, only a small portion of attendees go to the social. You usu= ally do get a few looking for tickets just before, but there's plenty of pe= ople not going even when unlimited tickets are available.

Yoav

On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Andrey Lukyanenko <laser.ru@gmail.com> wrote:
Alexa,

If the venue is highly limited in space, what is the reason to choose the v= enue? Just a rhetorical question....

Best regards,
Andrey Lukyanenko.


On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Alexa Morris <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <amorris@amsl.com<= /a>> wrote:
Brian,

I certainly understand your frustration, however the attendance limit = was set by the venue itself and is due to fire regulations so there is noth= ing that can be done at this time. However quite frequently some attendees = find that at the last moment they are unable to use the tickets they purchased, so perhaps you may still be = fortunate enough to secure one (or two) when we are onsite.

Kind regards,
Alexa


On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Brian Dickson wrote:

I just noticed that the social event sold out.

However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating:<= /div>

Attendees: 1339 (as of now)
Tickets: 475 (limited to 1+1 for attendee + guest).

This means the potential demand would have been 2678, vs 475 available= , and even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475.

I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit, but it would be nice= if the host (DENIC) could consider either increasing (if that is possible)= the available tickets, or adding another venue for those unable to get tic= kets.

My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't some social for= us to go to. (!!!).

Is anyone from either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, = able to address this, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to th= e venue itself?

Respectfully,
Brian
_______________________________________________
87attendees mailing list
87attendees@ietf.= org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees

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48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA  94538
Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001
Email: amorris@a= msl.com

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--_000_06D64CE3211244349A6AFB09CA2B5BB2checkpointcom_-- From johnl@taugh.com Thu Jul 18 14:22:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7BE11E821A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:22:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.076 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.076 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.476, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_AFFORDABLE=1, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7bxSW5HgqTVO for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D0411E8216 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 43538 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2013 21:22:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=aa11.51e85ca8.k1307; bh=UaREAFk0JZQOToKVoqWFadjNz+hXB5/3w1nxMnzE+WA=; b=WfpMlX5IUAjh+lmwLiY5fv0nVtuhS0vgxnY7Zx16daOlEpMrdrFowrDBqLUftZ5+wP5SLnkbW+IWsG+4XPSZds1HpJwyKyiSBeY0DyGexQTVL/BAoBALv3RiMMZJPEeRDO6hOjbhaVdkCmDmd+LNP4FlUNpx6b+7qEIJBhGYB+WrNLMt5CsYhCCctGriOEtbllkct4hE6uRKYIOazEeVnyIP3zUUIlcNaxmSVd9ZACrIpJoYVUtgafnVNP3dujyL DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=aa11.51e85ca8.k1307; bh=UaREAFk0JZQOToKVoqWFadjNz+hXB5/3w1nxMnzE+WA=; b=cEFdEheQjwTQ1oua6nEqRDWnytTIO9aNqW3DSz47RpkMVcENzsDFj9DhKmTsIXDkueNHmoJyspvhlxI/SLBLZRfg4p4jHU1Mouf9NL4FWjVbWpAOJV24ttt/hGhlFWJbrs5iY8uwOAs1lNFcjdxdn+ZjpkeZnutjScOE7aXjodz4k1wtaWyekCCH6oTce45cZ2P8EY4i4zzk2QtMT0ssA9BqkNZ7BjjisETYq14fQihgLEajG68iWFNtDYODyEc2 Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 18 Jul 2013 21:22:26 -0000 Date: 18 Jul 2013 17:22:48 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Andrey Lukyanenko" In-Reply-To: References: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:22:49 -0000 > Historical note based on IETF 86: ~1200 attendees, 550 tickets... sold out > very fast. > Now: ~1300 attendees, 475 tickets. > > Limited budget may be a better explanation. I haven't been involved in arranging this conference, but as it happens, the MAAWG conference was in Berlin last year and I watched them try and find a suitable place for a similar event. It turns out that venues that are interesting, affordable, and large enough are not common, and the MAAWG night out was at the exact same place. R's, John From bob.hinden@gmail.com Thu Jul 18 14:33:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7029711E8216 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:33:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2zrC-zq14qV7 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qc0-x236.google.com (mail-qc0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF3B11E8215 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id e10so1968660qcy.41 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:33:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=Kw/2WZu9WD+ThbQOuOuuCyaY3z/VlgbCN/I76n63omQ=; b=OTldSul/5Q6nq9wif+eEzOhKqmxFkyri8fGgHx5DxBgnIF76bL2o8cE1f+g0SDmzsI BHbDcn8VeCmDLfySqv2rl+ZQTDa6jm31pk14RETyhvkfyN0jQFkreFoo3yRN88pUb6yb /463guA90n1ff6e5CCYor7VGeqrf/yQdfUQODsCUOGNsqyNnkC9wIx5jULlvHskrHLzi ZDB932KdyWhyOYD9N07eobyM7IzQfqXSOmFVP2Oq5sJY4YSATNUVV+7T+VQr27IaBvE6 a+5TDVqqRcb+RssxVGPfI9JojpSyrhL6mtF6A90Z42bcJe4PKlgBV36P36KVL8rwf0vD OfkQ== X-Received: by 10.224.66.2 with SMTP id l2mr15709433qai.28.1374183211613; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.224.219] ([209.97.127.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s9sm15956461qeo.3.2013.07.18.14.33.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:33:28 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <175DC6CF-58AB-4B9A-A11F-CDAD9BB9BD5A@gmail.com> References: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> To: Andrey Lukyanenko X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Alexa Morris , Bob Hinden , Brian Dickson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:33:34 -0000 Andrey, I was not involved in the selection of the social venue, but have been = there around five years ago. =46rom my experience, I think it was = picked because it's a cool technical museum and should apparel to many = IETFers. Anything with a big airplane on the roof has to be interesting = :-) Bob On Jul 18, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Andrey Lukyanenko = wrote: > Alexa, >=20 > If the venue is highly limited in space, what is the reason to choose = the venue? Just a rhetorical question.... >=20 > Best regards, > Andrey Lukyanenko. >=20 >=20 > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Alexa Morris = wrote: > Brian, >=20 > I certainly understand your frustration, however the attendance limit = was set by the venue itself and is due to fire regulations so there is = nothing that can be done at this time. However quite frequently some = attendees find that at the last moment they are unable to use the = tickets they purchased, so perhaps you may still be fortunate enough to = secure one (or two) when we are onsite. >=20 > Kind regards, > Alexa >=20 >=20 > On Jul 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Brian Dickson wrote: >=20 >> I just noticed that the social event sold out. >>=20 >> However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating: >>=20 >> Attendees: 1339 (as of now) >> Tickets: 475 (limited to 1+1 for attendee + guest). >>=20 >> This means the potential demand would have been 2678, vs 475 = available, and even best case demand (without the +1) of 1337 vs 475. >>=20 >> I realize there may be reasons for the 475 limit, but it would be = nice if the host (DENIC) could consider either increasing (if that is = possible) the available tickets, or adding another venue for those = unable to get tickets. >>=20 >> My "+1" will not be happy if there isn't some social for us to go to. = (!!!). >>=20 >> Is anyone from either the host or from whoever organizes the meeting, = able to address this, please? Is the 475 a "hard limit" due to the venue = itself? >>=20 >> Respectfully, >> Brian >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 > ---------- > Alexa Morris / Executive Director / IETF > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > Phone: +1.510.492.4089 / Fax: +1.510.492.4001 > Email: amorris@amsl.com >=20 > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > www.amsl.com >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com Thu Jul 18 14:38:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F8711E8216 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:38:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.500, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_AFFORDABLE=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2mduBlw-9C4x for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ihemail3.lucent.com (ihemail3.lucent.com [135.245.0.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0B0D11E8212 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fr711usmtp1.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (h135-239-2-122.lucent.com [135.239.2.122]) by ihemail3.lucent.com (8.13.8/IER-o) with ESMTP id r6ILc8HQ026845 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:38:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from FR711WXCHHUB02.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (fr711wxchhub02.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com [135.239.2.112]) by fr711usmtp1.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com (GMO) with ESMTP id r6ILc7Ye024766 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:38:07 +0200 Received: from FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([169.254.7.194]) by FR711WXCHHUB02.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com ([135.239.2.112]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 23:38:07 +0200 From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" To: John R Levine , Andrey Lukyanenko Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event Thread-Index: AQHOg/zzbxSx3kXFjkiEhN5qPU0IY5lq9Vdw Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:38:06 +0000 Message-ID: <949EF20990823C4C85C18D59AA11AD8B06D0CC@FR712WXCHMBA11.zeu.alcatel-lucent.com> References: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [135.239.27.39] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 135.245.2.37 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:38:17 -0000 And at the end of the day, given that the social is organized by the sponso= rs, anyone has the ultimate path to the perfect social in the future... We have had meetings where there was no sponsor and therefore no social. In= effect, the tickets ran out before bookings commenced! Regards Keith > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of John R Levine > Sent: 18 July 2013 22:23 > To: Andrey Lukyanenko > Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of > event >=20 > > Historical note based on IETF 86: ~1200 attendees, 550 tickets... sold > out > > very fast. > > Now: ~1300 attendees, 475 tickets. > > > > Limited budget may be a better explanation. >=20 > I haven't been involved in arranging this conference, but as it happens, > the MAAWG conference was in Berlin last year and I watched them try and > find a suitable place for a similar event. It turns out that venues that > are interesting, affordable, and large enough are not common, and the > MAAWG night out was at the exact same place. >=20 > R's, > John > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From Sandra.Murphy@sparta.com Thu Jul 18 14:47:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9369311E822F for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:47:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U9v9nUEugbdt for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from M4.sparta.com (M4.sparta.com [157.185.61.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C53E11E822B for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Beta5.sparta.com ([10.62.8.21]) by M4.sparta.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6ILl1B3022191; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:47:01 -0500 Received: from CVA-HUB001.centreville.ads.sparta.com ([10.62.108.11]) by Beta5.sparta.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6ILksOv032651; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:46:54 -0500 Received: from CVA-MB001.centreville.ads.sparta.com ([fe80::58b4:c7c2:f9d:dff9]) by CVA-HUB001.centreville.ads.sparta.com ([fe80::8ca8:7aea:3db9:1972%11]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:46:31 -0400 From: "Murphy, Sandra" To: Andrey Lukyanenko , Yoav Nir Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event Thread-Index: AQHOg9pnh5E6VW1Djk2QmoJVWBVdSZlrJ5+AgAAFDICAAANgAIAAAwwA//+9wjE= Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:46:30 +0000 Message-ID: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F6749BB531@CVA-MB001.centreville.ads.sparta.com> References: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> , In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.62.8.137] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F6749BB531CVAMB001centrev_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Alexa Morris , Brian Dickson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:47:45 -0000 --_000_24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F6749BB531CVAMB001centrev_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If I understand correctly, the social is arranged by the sponsor for the me= eting. So complaining to Alexa about the venue choice is misdirected. I also believe that the sponsor bears part of the cost. So complaining abo= ut the venue capacity sounds a bit ungracious. To those who have not watched this before, there is usually a lively exchan= ge of social tickets as the time approaches. More recently, IIRC, a page o= n the attendee wiki has served as a listing service. All is not lost. --Sandy --_000_24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F6749BB531CVAMB001centrev_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If I understand correctly, the social is arrange= d by the sponsor for the meeting.  So complaining to Alexa about the v= enue choice is misdirected. 

I also believe that the sponsor bears part of th= e cost.  So complaining about the venue capacity sounds a bit ungracio= us.

To those who have not watched this before, there= is usually a lively exchange of social tickets as the time approaches. &nb= sp;More recently, IIRC, a page on the attendee wiki has served as a listing= service.  All is not lost.

--Sandy

--_000_24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F6749BB531CVAMB001centrev_-- From avri@acm.org Thu Jul 18 15:14:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D0121E8109 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:14:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.288 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.288 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ibDNyud-KWpf for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A430211E81FA for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1UzwT8-000GAT-1w for 87attendees@ietf.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:14:38 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) From: Avri Doria In-Reply-To: <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527CA6C@dfweml509-mbx.china.huawei.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:14:35 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6F3EF5CA-807F-4766-AF61-323B0DCFDA46@acm.org> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B2140@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527CA6C@dfweml509-mbx.china.huawei.com> To: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Subject: Re: [87attendees] social event tickes X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:14:46 -0000 bummer. avri On 18 Jul 2013, at 18:05, Lucy yong wrote: > Social event ticket is already sold out. If you buy more than you = need, please let me know. >=20 From eckert@cisco.com Thu Jul 18 15:55:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A4811E8235 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:55:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.037 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.037 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.438, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_AFFORDABLE=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AGLfs-4JFbTX for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B813511E821F for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:55:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1096; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374188111; x=1375397711; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=B/YJMyU4LKx2qyh87rpGI6Sk+D/cxm5RrI99UQTYQyg=; b=ELF57IBVzT5GUccdUOFKmRTC9TPQ5G1z+YP9IC4F5hV3WGK6tejypdcn gEaeUFBqHocBEyhkX8gANpSh3wDsYF+An4Y8aO26mx0rCWsmw7Jiaz5yg z3bCG50mWQJjdxARgb3GsZSY5k6uOTf7ljLDaxe80/NjYvtZqt809gC1P g=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhAFAKtx6FGrRDoJ/2dsb2JhbABagwY1wRaBEhZ0giQBAQEBAwEBATcuBgsQCxIGCSUPBRMiFBOIDw22MI5XEIEoB4MObgOJKI40AZFNgzIcgSw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,697,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="83905695" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2013 22:55:09 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6IMt8pV024796 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:55:08 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6IMt8Bk028204; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:55:08 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r6IMt7vS028203; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:55:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:55:07 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: John R Levine Message-ID: <20130718225507.GD23170@cisco.com> References: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Andrey Lukyanenko Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:55:26 -0000 Darn, why did they tear down the communist propaganda temple http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_the_Republic_%28Berlin%29 that would have had enough space ;-)) On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 05:22:48PM -0400, John R Levine wrote: > >Historical note based on IETF 86: ~1200 attendees, 550 tickets... sold out > >very fast. > >Now: ~1300 attendees, 475 tickets. > > > >Limited budget may be a better explanation. > > I haven't been involved in arranging this conference, but as it happens, > the MAAWG conference was in Berlin last year and I watched them try and > find a suitable place for a similar event. It turns out that venues that > are interesting, affordable, and large enough are not common, and the > MAAWG night out was at the exact same place. > > R's, > John > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! From joelja@gmail.com Thu Jul 18 19:02:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3127521E8142 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:02:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_AFFORDABLE=1, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Tw5rYw2qGDp for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-x22f.google.com (mail-pb0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D80721E8190 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id rr13so3839587pbb.34 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:02:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=V1UiXCjdmvkRhEcjoxYsrk2+X1v80aUT8n71uR38rA8=; b=DLFw0OrRtjADJv4aGP5AtEcBZBpYj/dfpohoZjMM8TQFWe03K6QEPhRj4F8LGfSdOD kTsc+7P7r5E7ZJkChUr8Kca9X94lCsdwwlfnVizFvA5wLVq0mAFFN35/EjF20cOykQjF FIwNXg5j9dy6xj8l1LSEewV8xDlkEJrLhdhxdZYS1Hgc63vDeu6cVky1naJGGEclgLUP O66o74UtUUeEhHUnLGN2OW+63y/YSWWGNfvsJEc35L54THwGQwbrtrzsT+cm7USfIgfS v6xXiTe7FzMYWlOOlFfjw3o3pk0hQyOPUXFgXSxfVKmY6od6ZYKnWgfKw3/jlmKrXuz2 bDmA== X-Received: by 10.68.186.193 with SMTP id fm1mr14651080pbc.163.1374199363808; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:02:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joels-MacBook-Air.local ([2601:9:4d80:61:745f:1a9c:812b:50d5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 7sm12078449paf.22.2013.07.18.19.02.42 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51E89E41.1060008@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:02:41 -0700 From: joel jaeggli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/23.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Toerless Eckert , John R Levine References: <14A3140F-3155-4A93-B85E-EF29272951F0@amsl.com> <20130718225507.GD23170@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <20130718225507.GD23170@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Andrey Lukyanenko Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 02:02:59 -0000 On 7/18/13 3:55 PM, Toerless Eckert wrote: > Darn, > > why did they tear down the communist propaganda temple > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_the_Republic_%28Berlin%29 > > that would have had enough space ;-)) Because they're rebuilding the Stadtschloß (and presumably reconstituting the monarchy thereafter). > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 05:22:48PM -0400, John R Levine wrote: >>> Historical note based on IETF 86: ~1200 attendees, 550 tickets... sold out >>> very fast. >>> Now: ~1300 attendees, 475 tickets. >>> >>> Limited budget may be a better explanation. >> >> I haven't been involved in arranging this conference, but as it happens, >> the MAAWG conference was in Berlin last year and I watched them try and >> find a suitable place for a similar event. It turns out that venues that >> are interesting, affordable, and large enough are not common, and the >> MAAWG night out was at the exact same place. >> >> R's, >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > From raysaikat@gmail.com Thu Jul 18 21:08:20 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50F221F9D0E for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:08:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AAKjf9eQIFt0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-x22b.google.com (mail-vc0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22b]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D9921F87BB for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id gd11so2923561vcb.16 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:08:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9khLKhbkpv6Q/C/cuVc9vvtFUJXqX4f/UTAFFSBNW28=; b=CzmLc+KUiddAc4nheusUC/gfYO2tfUL6XhjPjW8x6xepKctCCLqxPZVEBs5lGQef7r s2UYOkoe6WtaosVjIZW1dt8IS6hLMrHcJhcAMvyAdH+UJIoffJle+mGEyqHGGKv3Ohcj qTzM6T46bcvB6fQExRPnvuFaJecmeVqRJXhVgKSGvf58EYV8XGB7+i+Rb1FNZsLrlRpU QDl1O6pePpdDrW3OMpc0LP7RLzrVq6fENSyYfuI+mVCIFV52IsBmP1RhYFGbCZGGk9+n hPDf5iG7pb4RR5/3iTQL470QofYbGo+VgZ0X37hzfKqbpb9reiAdcQtGZ0olJ6+qoZ4w ahUg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.91.75 with SMTP id l11mr5111343vcm.82.1374206898014; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.254.167 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 21:08:17 -0700 Message-ID: From: Saikat Ray To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b344088010e4304e1d57a5b Subject: [87attendees] Berlin attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 04:08:20 -0000 --047d7b344088010e4304e1d57a5b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My wife will accompany me in the trip. What would be your commendations for places to visit in Berlin that she can visit during the day time (and in evening when both of us can go)? -- Saikat Ray Web: http://raysaikat.googlepages.com --047d7b344088010e4304e1d57a5b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
My wife will accompany me in the trip. What would be your commendations for places to visit in Berlin that she can visit during the day time (and in evening when both of us can go)?

--047d7b344088010e4304e1d57a5b-- From ole@cisco.com Thu Jul 18 22:22:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460A611E8293 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:22:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bBIRaZMgnQtG for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A74D511E8282 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:22:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2502; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374211370; x=1375420970; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=WejTMuoNDzuqbuykYSqURtLM1P6Rqs0tncDYPhlbP6o=; b=aUR8hU2HsOjU9n/yRTbHmlMgjB9+HH+YWLbZVDHWDmG5LmArSvvbqm3L R+9jH7iE8GdXpcHuzUYeBYZtwalU3GrRFQKUSAU6O1ccb77Oc2y3Zb2D8 lRFcLAFUFtCLtuXNJVutZ49Z+0RH42wkfZ33EtN7If1dZRzXJ7EVJoyvE Y=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnwJAI7M6FGtJV2a/2dsb2JhbABagwY1B0OuJzKJOIg8gRYWdIIlAQEEAQEBawsQAgEIBAE6ByEGCxQRAgQOBYd+Aw8HBa1CDYhejSOCaAQHCYMFbgOVdIFpgSmKfgOFI4MS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,699,1367971200"; d="scan'208,217";a="236782233" Received: from rcdn-core-3.cisco.com ([173.37.93.154]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 05:22:49 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com [173.36.12.76]) by rcdn-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6J5Mngj007286 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 05:22:49 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x15.cisco.com ([169.254.9.152]) by xhc-aln-x02.cisco.com ([173.36.12.76]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:22:49 -0500 From: "Ole Jacobsen (ole)" To: Saikat Ray Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Berlin attractions Thread-Index: AQHOhDWiQD+la6oNwUSWVy2tfCcAYZlrd5jY Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 05:22:48 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CA12F8A98AF54536B2A51B50A92C1E7Dciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Berlin attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 05:22:55 -0000 --_000_CA12F8A98AF54536B2A51B50A92C1E7Dciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sign her up for the companion program, discuss attractions on that list or = in person with fellow companions. Ole J. Jacobsen Editor & Publisher http://cisco.com/ipj Sent from my iPhone On 19 Jul 2013, at 06:08, "Saikat Ray" > wrote: My wife will accompany me in the trip. What would be your commendations for= places to visit in Berlin that she can visit during the day time (and in e= vening when both of us can go)? -- Saikat Ray Web: http://raysaikat.googlepages.com _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --_000_CA12F8A98AF54536B2A51B50A92C1E7Dciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sign her up for the companion program, discuss attractions on that lis= t or in person with fellow companions.

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My wife will accompany me in the trip. What would be your = commendations for places to visit in Berlin that she can visit during the d= ay time (and in evening when both of us can go)?

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--_000_CA12F8A98AF54536B2A51B50A92C1E7Dciscocom_-- From eckert@cisco.com Thu Jul 18 22:49:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF6DB21E81BE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:49:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.516 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.516 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.083, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id daYlk6totI5B for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-4.cisco.com (mtv-iport-4.cisco.com [173.36.130.15]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1FF121E81C4 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:49:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1411; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374212959; x=1375422559; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=m0GoUnvWhrD0H/olLAtP7GAHKtwYmHobgxZZFe7AZUk=; b=XIRpC0JHDyV9jo/KvQtvaV1ZW5vWs7SGbIZw0yVkP3Q30w8QRB1In43v DjoRDit2pw07ub4noxQwRomACZGNJcnIrZpjpm6lCZ4VTHwLuYPXGjcoJ YD3h5BGOjKUKFCr9vt3yMd43uwW10eABjF7tqbgs+A45zFI86amd6rRHs Q=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,699,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="86435046" Received: from mtv-core-4.cisco.com ([171.68.58.9]) by mtv-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 05:49:16 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6J5nFXk020636 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 05:49:15 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6J5nFBM010537; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:49:15 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r6J5nFvR010536; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:49:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 22:49:15 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: "Ole Jacobsen (ole)" Message-ID: <20130719054915.GC23170@cisco.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Saikat Ray Subject: Re: [87attendees] Berlin attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 05:49:24 -0000 I've heard that there is this really strange show in town where you could see geeks from all other the world in their gathering place habitat using hilarious technobabble better than any sci-fi series on TV. That might be a unique experience to go check out. Sorry, couldn't resist. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 05:22:48AM +0000, Ole Jacobsen (ole) wrote: > Sign her up for the companion program, discuss attractions on that list or in person with fellow companions. > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor & Publisher > http://cisco.com/ipj > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 19 Jul 2013, at 06:08, "Saikat Ray" > wrote: > > My wife will accompany me in the trip. What would be your commendations for places to visit in Berlin that she can visit during the day time (and in evening when both of us can go)? > > -- > Saikat Ray > Web: http://raysaikat.googlepages.com > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! From Jan.Seedorf@neclab.eu Fri Jul 19 00:51:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DB421E80C2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:51:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.463 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.463 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.136, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aQHKK6OTwEX4 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu (mailer1.neclab.eu [195.37.70.40]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4F511E80F5 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211F9104C00; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:51:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Amavisd on Debian GNU/Linux (netlab.nec.de) Received: from mailer1.neclab.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (atlas-a.office.hd [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2S9L8RSKipeA; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:51:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ENCELADUS.office.hd (enceladus.office.hd [192.168.24.52]) by mailer1.neclab.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054C4104BFB; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:50:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from DAPHNIS.office.hd ([169.254.2.153]) by ENCELADUS.office.hd ([192.168.24.52]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:49:30 +0200 From: Jan Seedorf To: Ole Jacobsen , John R Levine Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Saxony attractions Thread-Index: AQHOg/O98F57IrxWE0Csef/jwWPII5lrnl+A Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:49:30 +0000 Message-ID: <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.1.5.89] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Ted Lemon Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:51:43 -0000 Most importantly: If you take the ICE train, from Berlin in 1.5h you can re= ach Hamburg, the most beautiful city in Germany Trains go every 50 min. or so - Jan > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:16 PM > To: John R Levine > Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon > Subject: [87attendees] Saxony attractions >=20 >=20 > If you have time: Take the train to Leipzig (on your way to or from > Berlin to/from Frankfurt). The Thomaskirche where J. S. Bach is buried > dates from 1212: >=20 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Thomas_Church,_Leipzig >=20 > http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/LEIPZIG/Bach_Organ.html >=20 > The Nicolaikirche is equally impressive. >=20 > And Dresden: Wonderfully restored after heavy bombing during WWII, > very much worth a visit too. >=20 > Other historic places along the Frankfurt - Berlin (not so direct) > route include Eisenach, Weimar, Efurt, Naumburg, Altenburg and > Lutherstadt Wittenberg. >=20 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation >=20 > See you in Berlin! >=20 > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > Skype: organdemo >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From peter@denic.de Fri Jul 19 00:53:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55AF011E8136 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:53:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IXaFq-9vWlZw for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (office.denic.de [IPv6:2a02:568:122:16:1::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B766C11E80F5 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 00:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x27.adm.denic.de (x28.fra2.if.denic.de [10.122.64.17]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1V05Ux-0005mc-JT; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:53:07 +0200 Received: from localhost by x27.adm.denic.de with local id 1V05Ux-0004ZN-G2; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:53:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:53:07 +0200 From: Peter Koch To: 87attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <20130719075307.GW30100@x28.adm.denic.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Sender: Peter Koch Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:53:09 -0000 > I just noticed that the social event sold out. > However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating: thank you all for your continued interest in the IETF and the social event in particular. I'm sorry for everybody who was not able to get a ticket, so let me add some info and basically confirm what other people already correctly explained. Obviously, we don't run our own theme park. That said, we had to do scouting and had been looking for a promising venue that has a roof (weather isn't that predictable few weeks out) and a - hopefully - inspiring interior underneath. The downside is that this type of venue comes with some strings attached, one of which is "maximum occupancy". The figures were in line with past experience, so we booked. We accept the challenge to meet the expectations expressed both by the demand on tickets and the helpful feedback on this list. Knowing that this might not be a satisfactory response and again with apologies, i'd call upon everybody's engineering spirit to use the meeting wiki for what some parts of the industry call a 'secondary market', recognizing that this is a hack, not a solution, as well as for finding company for Tuesday or any other day. Berlin has a lot to offer, even in the vicinity of the meeting venue and while we'd really like to accomodate everybody, please let us accept the finiteness of space and resources. Looking forward to a successful IETF meeting - safe travels everyone! -Peter From avri@acm.org Fri Jul 19 01:24:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B586B11E8205 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 01:24:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.288 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.288 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HOST_MISMATCH_COM=0.311, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VKxfE9AoLyQ6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 01:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com (psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::62]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CEE11E81F3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 01:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psg.com ([147.28.0.62] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.80.1 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1V05zQ-0007IV-TT for 87attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:24:37 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) From: Avri Doria In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:24:35 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:24:42 -0000 A wonderful experience. with really good food. and beer. and saxon wine. in fact, I think i will be visiting there the weekend after the IETF. avri On 18 Jul 2013, at 22:26, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > And I forgot to say: If you'd like to try a "new" restaurant in > Leipzig, go to the Auerbachs Keller. They only opened in 1525 :-) > > http://www.auerbachs-keller-leipzig.de/#panel-tab-id2 > > Ole > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal > Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > Skype: organdemo > > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > From neitzel@kenny.gaertner.de Fri Jul 19 02:08:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B13D21F9AFD for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 02:08:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.49 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.49 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.110, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wLDOjpT7reX3 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 02:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kenny.gaertner.de (kenny.gaertner.de [IPv6:2a00:1030:0:42::d90d:4263]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEC821F9E7E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 02:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kenny.gaertner.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kenny.gaertner.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r6J98QJu001768 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:08:26 +0200 Received: (from neitzel@localhost) by kenny.gaertner.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id r6J98Pof001650; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:08:25 +0200 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:08:25 +0200 From: Martin Neitzel To: johnl@taugh.com Message-ID: <51e90209.8AXHGAwS4pvOvl6w%neitzel@gaertner.de> References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.7 (kenny.gaertner.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:08:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.8 at kenny X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Warm weather dining in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:10:50 -0000 John R Levine asked: > Since it is likely to be pretty warm in Berlin, can anyone suggest places > to eat outside? Last year we found a very pleasant biergarten by the > Wannsee train station, but there must be closer options. A *really* pleasant beer garden is just around the corner from the venue (10min walking distance), the "Cafe am Neuen See": http://goo.gl/maps/UM0Sb On "Budapester Str.", head to the east, turn left directly after the bridge onto "Corneliusstr.", next one right into Drakestr. -> Lichtensteinallee. You can't miss it. Martin From Michal.Soloducha@telekom.de Fri Jul 19 03:04:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE37C11E80D7 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 03:04:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AlDQpwvehiS0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 03:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcmail33.telekom.de (tcmail33.telekom.de [80.149.113.247]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BB811E80D5 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 03:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from he113599.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.65.118]) by tcmail31.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 19 Jul 2013 12:04:34 +0200 Received: from HE101452.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.92.148]) by HE113599.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([::1]) with mapi; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:04:34 +0200 From: To: <87attendees@ietf.org> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:04:32 +0200 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Warm weather dining in Berlin Thread-Index: Ac6EX+iGTBaKqzAlQbWMvdofhIxTMQABpgng Message-ID: <597879B0D1B8E649A12532864A9C949A015231CDC474@HE101452.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <51e90209.8AXHGAwS4pvOvl6w%neitzel@gaertner.de> In-Reply-To: <51e90209.8AXHGAwS4pvOvl6w%neitzel@gaertner.de> Accept-Language: de-DE Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Warm weather dining in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:04:41 -0000 I could recommend this one as well: Nicely located, with Biergarten atmosphere: http://goo.gl/maps/N66HH http://www.schleusenkrug.de/ Best regards, Michal -----Original Message----- From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Martin Neitzel Sent: Freitag, 19. Juli 2013 11:08 To: johnl@taugh.com Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Warm weather dining in Berlin John R Levine asked: > Since it is likely to be pretty warm in Berlin, can anyone suggest=20 > places to eat outside? Last year we found a very pleasant biergarten=20 > by the Wannsee train station, but there must be closer options. A *really* pleasant beer garden is just around the corner from the venue (1= 0min walking distance), the "Cafe am Neuen See": http://goo.gl/maps/UM0Sb On "Budapester Str.", head to the east, turn left directly after the bridge= onto "Corneliusstr.", next one right into Drakestr. -> Lichtensteinallee. You can't miss it. Martin _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From N.Leymann@telekom.de Fri Jul 19 04:10:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440EF11E80F8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 04:10:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.149 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.149 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6kPl6RGs7+Tb for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 04:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcmail93.telekom.de (tcmail93.telekom.de [80.149.113.205]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CD421F9D7E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 04:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from he111297.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.90.15]) by tcmail91.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 19 Jul 2013 13:09:59 +0200 Received: from HE100014.emea1.cds.t-internal.com (10.125.65.197) by HE111297.EMEA1.CDS.T-INTERNAL.COM (10.125.90.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.298.1; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:09:59 +0200 Received: from HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.90.96]) by HE100014.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([2002:769:41c5::769:41c5]) with mapi; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:09:59 +0200 From: To: , <87attendees@ietf.org> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:09:58 +0200 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Warm weather dining in Berlin Thread-Index: Ac6D2oNg5h0+f1aOSYmQnCa+XjmKZwAlKbTA Message-ID: <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD59EEC92@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Warm weather dining in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:10:21 -0000 Hi, In summer time it's really not a big deal to find a nice place outside ("wa= rm weather dining"). Almost all restaurants have some tables on the sideway= or in a small garden. I recommend that you avoid the big, loud main street= s and keep to the smaller streets and squares. Two very nice Biergardens we= re already mentioned at the mailing list (both are in walking distance). Mo= re urban character can be found e.g. at "Ludwigkirchplatz" (not really walk= ing distance but plenty of busses go close to that location), "Helmholtzpla= tz", "Kollwitzplatz", around Friedrichstrasse (Underground + S-Bahn Stop), = whole area around "Hackesche H=F6fe", "Kastanienallee" (also with the "Prat= er" a very big and well known biergarden); many cafes and restaurants are l= ocated to the channels with nice views. Let me know if you need more information. I'm happy to help. Regards Nic -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] Im = Auftrag von John R Levine Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. Juli 2013 19:16 An: 87attendees@ietf.org Betreff: [87attendees] Warm weather dining in Berlin Since it is likely to be pretty warm in Berlin, can anyone suggest places to eat outside? Last year we found a very pleasant biergarten by the Wannsee train station, but there must be closer options. R's, John _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From sanjay.mishra@verizon.com Fri Jul 19 07:27:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C4D21E80C3 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:27:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.547 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.547 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.052, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DhzOOx4tHvEI for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omzsmtpe03.verizonbusiness.com (omzsmtpe03.verizonbusiness.com [199.249.25.208]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E37321E80BF for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:27:35 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi03.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.145]) by omzsmtpe03.verizonbusiness.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 14:27:32 +0000 From: "Mishra, Sanjay" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,702,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="511804536" Received: from fhdp1lumxc7hb01.verizon.com (HELO FHDP1LUMXC7HB01.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.59.188]) by fldsmtpi03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 14:27:32 +0000 Received: from fhdp1lumxc7v23.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.159]) by FHDP1LUMXC7HB01.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.188]) with mapi; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:27:31 -0400 To: Jan Seedorf , Ole Jacobsen , John R Levine Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:27:30 -0400 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Saxony attractions Thread-Index: AQHOg/O98F57IrxWE0Csef/jwWPII5lrnl+AgABwanA= Message-ID: <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> In-Reply-To: <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Ted Lemon Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:27:40 -0000 Are there any specific attractions (must visit) that can be covered in ~4 t= o 5 hours once you get to Hamburg? there? I arrive in Berlin on Saturday ar= ound 10AM and am contemplating a good use of the latter part of the day eit= her exploring Berlin or perhaps a short day trip to destinations such as Ha= mburg. Sanjay -----Original Message----- From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Jan Seedorf Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:50 AM To: Ole Jacobsen; John R Levine Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions Most importantly: If you take the ICE train, from Berlin in 1.5h you can re= ach Hamburg, the most beautiful city in Germany Trains go every 50 min. or so - Jan > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-=20 > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:16 PM > To: John R Levine > Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon > Subject: [87attendees] Saxony attractions >=20 >=20 > If you have time: Take the train to Leipzig (on your way to or from=20 > Berlin to/from Frankfurt). The Thomaskirche where J. S. Bach is buried=20 > dates from 1212: >=20 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Thomas_Church,_Leipzig >=20 > http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/LEIPZIG/Bach_Organ.html >=20 > The Nicolaikirche is equally impressive. >=20 > And Dresden: Wonderfully restored after heavy bombing during WWII,=20 > very much worth a visit too. >=20 > Other historic places along the Frankfurt - Berlin (not so direct)=20 > route include Eisenach, Weimar, Efurt, Naumburg, Altenburg and=20 > Lutherstadt Wittenberg. >=20 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation >=20 > See you in Berlin! >=20 > Ole J. 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I arrive in Berlin on Saturday around 10AM and am contemplating a good use of the latter part of the day either exploring Berlin or perhaps a short day trip to destinations such as Hamburg. Excellent though Hamburg is, there's plenty to do close to Berlin. The Sans Souci palace and gardens in Potsdam are a nice afternoon trip, and they're only about 20 minutes away by S-bahn. R's, John From jbustos@niclabs.cl Fri Jul 19 07:38:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B4D21E80D0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:38:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.676 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.676 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pOTL4+hj5i6H for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-f180.google.com (mail-ve0-f180.google.com [209.85.128.180]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426D521F918C for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f180.google.com with SMTP id pa12so3473826veb.11 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:38:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=iYNqrb8/f9qhuOFo5Ui61BFmCJLw4Gofy+llSD6OO9s=; b=l24Fj9xCc370UvTqeec8UoRU68pYznEV91rBEwOUdG2UCVNm3A8DSTyalwiqf4EfEG fgMKPb/0PkTMnjn38gJDwYiHxTUYbj9XdBzrC34yR1L8pCpNNb2bNDxPAxWqrD2Eu+yt BL/LzSuMf+LVDww6kHd20hkFvjbJdpsGKV625yHhUYDibfhxwK4r5WfetksCjmisuzw3 q39r2LfkplMWjYBtwtXRNJDxzbHh+Bt/nmw0nV7OphH9pGOt6pkotduBySHfV2O/xWTe 4Nlg1roUIoKjYreHjZjBhcLCA/PZ69pp84OlZ9EaBv+tAEnVObm20w4kOIWQ6PuHoRX4 G4XQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.226.199 with SMTP id ru7mr5724318vec.68.1374244694529; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.37.79 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.37.79 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:38:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 10:38:14 -0400 Message-ID: From: Javier Bustos To: "Mishra, Sanjay" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6afe6da2a8604e1de463b X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmoQEoabhAdDdXIq861nItjlPorRSIIl1aKn+JZ/bMfBSszkayN0sOW5zyL6CpEDqah5G3J Cc: "<, 87attendees@ietf.org>, " <87attendees@ietf.org>, Jan Seedorf , Ole Jacobsen , John R Levine , Ted Lemon Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:38:22 -0000 --047d7bd6afe6da2a8604e1de463b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can take the walking tour in Berlin. El 19/07/2013 10:27, "Mishra, Sanjay" escribi= =F3: > Are there any specific attractions (must visit) that can be covered in ~4 > to 5 hours once you get to Hamburg? there? I arrive in Berlin on Saturday > around 10AM and am contemplating a good use of the latter part of the day > either exploring Berlin or perhaps a short day trip to destinations such = as > Hamburg. > > Sanjay > > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Jan Seedorf > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:50 AM > To: Ole Jacobsen; John R Levine > Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions > > Most importantly: If you take the ICE train, from Berlin in 1.5h you can > reach Hamburg, the most beautiful city in Germany > > Trains go every 50 min. or so > > - Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen > > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:16 PM > > To: John R Levine > > Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon > > Subject: [87attendees] Saxony attractions > > > > > > If you have time: Take the train to Leipzig (on your way to or from > > Berlin to/from Frankfurt). The Thomaskirche where J. S. Bach is buried > > dates from 1212: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Thomas_Church,_Leipzig > > > > http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/LEIPZIG/Bach_Organ.html > > > > The Nicolaikirche is equally impressive. > > > > And Dresden: Wonderfully restored after heavy bombing during WWII, > > very much worth a visit too. > > > > Other historic places along the Frankfurt - Berlin (not so direct) > > route include Eisenach, Weimar, Efurt, Naumburg, Altenburg and > > Lutherstadt Wittenberg. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation > > > > See you in Berlin! > > > > Ole J. 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You can take the walking tour in Berlin.

El 19/07/2013 10:27, "Mishra, Sanjay" = <sanjay.mishra@verizon.com<= /a>> escribi=F3:
Are there any specific attractions (must visit) that can be covered in ~4 t= o 5 hours once you get to Hamburg? there? I arrive in Berlin on Saturday ar= ound 10AM and am contemplating a good use of the latter part of the day eit= her exploring Berlin or perhaps a short day trip to destinations such as Ha= mburg.

Sanjay

-----Original Message-----
From: 87attendees-bounces@i= etf.org [mailto:87atten= dees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jan Seedorf
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:50 AM
To: Ole Jacobsen; John R Levine
Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>= ;; Ted Lemon
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions

Most importantly: If you take the ICE train, from Berlin in 1.5h you can re= ach Hamburg, the most beautiful city in Germany

Trains go every 50 min. or so

=A0- Jan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 87attendees-boun= ces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of= Ole Jacobsen
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:16 PM
> To: John R Levine
> Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon
> Subject: [87attendees] Saxony attractions
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>
> If you have time: Take the train to Leipzig (on your way to or from > Berlin to/from Frankfurt). The Thomaskirche where J. S. Bach is buried=
> dates from 1212:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Thomas_Church,_Leipzig
>
> http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/LEIPZIG/Bach_Organ.html=
>
> The Nicolaikirche is equally impressive.
>
> And Dresden: Wonderfully restored after heavy bombing during WWII,
> very much worth a visit too.
>
> Other historic places along the Frankfurt - Berlin (not so direct)
> route include Eisenach, Weimar, Efurt, Naumburg, Altenburg and
> Lutherstadt Wittenberg.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation
>
> See you in Berlin!
>
> Ole J. Jacobsen
> Editor and Publisher, =A0The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems > Tel: +1 408= -527-8972 =A0 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628
> E-mail: ole@cisco.com =A0URL: http://www.cisco.com/ip= j
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=0D=0ADTCC DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it a= re confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity= to whom they are addressed=2E If you have received this email in error, pl= ease notify us immediately and delete the email and any attachments from yo= ur system=2E The recipient should check this email and any attachments for = the presence of viruses=2E The company accepts no liability for any damage= caused by any virus transmitted by this email=2E --_000_1ECC4CDA2258BE4B9E520493EA3535BE78CF4D00SXEMBP01corpdtc_-- From uwe.rauschenbach@nsn.com Fri Jul 19 08:23:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964E821F9A16 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:23:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dr-Xy8fB8YPh for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (demumfd002.nsn-inter.net [93.183.12.31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE97021F9956 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net ([10.150.129.55]) by demumfd002.nsn-inter.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r6JFNRW6028262 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:23:27 +0200 Received: from DEMUHTC001.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.42.32]) by demuprx016.emea.nsn-intra.net (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r6JFNR35002120 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:23:27 +0200 Received: from DEMUHTC009.nsn-intra.net (10.159.42.40) by DEMUHTC001.nsn-intra.net (10.159.42.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.123.3; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:23:26 +0200 Received: from DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net ([169.254.5.45]) by DEMUHTC009.nsn-intra.net ([10.159.42.40]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:23:26 +0200 From: "Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich)" To: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Berlin attractions - was: RE: [87attendees] Saxony attractions Thread-Index: AQHOg/OwEqQM98ZGAkaI5dNXh9Evmplrf5EAgABvMwCAAAJnAIAALivg Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:23:25 +0000 Message-ID: <56C2F665D49E0341B9DF5938005ACDF80B2AA3@DEMUMBX005.nsn-intra.net> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.159.42.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate-Ad: Categorized by eleven eXpurgate (R) http://www.eleven.de X-purgate: clean X-purgate: This mail is considered clean (visit http://www.eleven.de for further information) X-purgate-size: 1223 X-purgate-ID: 151667::1374247407-00002EAE-022CF91F/0-0/0-0 Subject: [87attendees] Berlin attractions - was: RE: Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:23:36 -0000 Sans Souci is nice, definitely. If you feel like doing something unusual, there are guided tours of Berlin'= s "subterranean architecture": http://berliner-unterwelten.de/home.1.1.html Kind regards, Uwe =A0 > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext John R Levine > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 4:36 PM > To: Mishra, Sanjay > Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions >=20 > > Are there any specific attractions (must visit) that can be covered > in ~4 to 5 hours once you get to Hamburg? there? I arrive in Berlin on > Saturday around 10AM and am contemplating a good use of the latter part > of the day either exploring Berlin or perhaps a short day trip to > destinations such as Hamburg. >=20 > Excellent though Hamburg is, there's plenty to do close to Berlin. >=20 > The Sans Souci palace and gardens in Potsdam are a nice afternoon trip, > and they're only about 20 minutes away by S-bahn. >=20 > R's, > John > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From eckert@cisco.com Fri Jul 19 08:27:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 183AC11E82BB for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:27:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.519 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.519 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.080, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nKDpfs7MMpfw for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-1.cisco.com (mtv-iport-1.cisco.com [173.36.130.12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D0E11E82C8 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:27:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1671; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374247650; x=1375457250; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=EQQaq/+A5zo5c2ezLJON/PxT6QsG9sHMKcUT6mvIivk=; b=k6L4Gb11VOzYbBjT3+sTVcaca43MnQDNQyaLbdDPkVeeBY3zAzcau0Kq rQdTTEK7b7Um0xn96aXy3Pv3G5f6N8LAwMkO3ABXqYfDya7JQkkzYHWX4 lTVF525aIvxR2IfUIKdKTBSFbScy9GpXOpy14IrBqR6QdOVKyRAtbCcg8 Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgIFAKlZ6VGrRDoI/2dsb2JhbABbgwY1wRmBEBZ0giQBAQEEAQEBNzQLEAsSBgklDwUTIhQTiA8NtxeQDweDfgOJKI40AZFNgzIc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,702,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="83449336" Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by mtv-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 15:27:24 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6JFRNil003032 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:27:23 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6JFRNkW001399; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:27:23 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r6JFRNpU001398; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:27:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:27:23 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: John R Levine Message-ID: <20130719152723.GL23170@cisco.com> References: <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, "Mishra, Sanjay" Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:27:36 -0000 Being from Hamburg amd therefore obviously agreeing with Jens assessment, i'd also say that you'd have to be a fan of rail travel to do such a day trip instead of exploring berlin. If you are a rail fan, then that connection is actually very nice. In fact, there are no airplane routes beetween Hamburg and Berlin because of it (since they ramped up the speed). Once in Hamburg, i would do a tour on a boat through the harbor for starters. In Berlin, i would start a tour in the center: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_Island I've never done a walking tour of the city, but given all the history i would expect that thats a very good option too. and then there are just 999 other things left to see ;-) Cheers Toerless On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:36:06AM -0400, John R Levine wrote: > >Are there any specific attractions (must visit) that can be covered in ~4 > >to 5 hours once you get to Hamburg? there? I arrive in Berlin on Saturday > >around 10AM and am contemplating a good use of the latter part of the day > >either exploring Berlin or perhaps a short day trip to destinations such > >as Hamburg. > > Excellent though Hamburg is, there's plenty to do close to Berlin. > > The Sans Souci palace and gardens in Potsdam are a nice afternoon trip, > and they're only about 20 minutes away by S-bahn. > > R's, > John > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! From randy@psg.com Fri Jul 19 08:30:57 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A7A11E82AB for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:30:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.574 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.574 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.025, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YZ1G5hFuEE3t for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:418:8006::19]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F333411E8249 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1V0Cds-0003xX-Dg; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:30:48 +0000 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:30:47 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: "Perdomo, Sigfrido E." In-Reply-To: <1ECC4CDA2258BE4B9E520493EA3535BE78CF4D00@SXEMBP01.corp.dtcc.com> References: <1ECC4CDA2258BE4B9E520493EA3535BE78CF4D00@SXEMBP01.corp.dtcc.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Saikat Ray Subject: Re: [87attendees] Berlin attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:30:58 -0000 > Is there a URL for companion program, I too won't be alone on this trip. http://www.ietf.org/meeting/companion-program.html From sanjay.mishra@verizon.com Fri Jul 19 08:32:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D068811E82AB for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:32:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.557 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.557 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.042, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 89Jek4nHOwXy for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fldsmtpe01.verizon.com (fldsmtpe01.verizon.com [140.108.26.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED80B11E82BB for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:32:20 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi03.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.145]) by fldsmtpe01.verizon.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 15:32:17 +0000 From: "Mishra, Sanjay" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,702,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="511858987" Received: from fhdp1lumxc7hb04.verizon.com (HELO FHDP1LUMXC7HB04.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.59.191]) by fldsmtpi03.verizon.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 15:32:17 +0000 Received: from fhdp1lumxc7v23.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.159]) by FHDP1LUMXC7HB04.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.191]) with mapi; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:32:11 -0400 To: Toerless Eckert , John R Levine Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:32:09 -0400 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Saxony attractions Thread-Index: Ac6ElHqnN5VcpGNuSgyGJZ+NW/HZRgAACfrA Message-ID: <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D928A7@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> References: <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> <20130719152723.GL23170@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <20130719152723.GL23170@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:32:38 -0000 Not so much a rail fan (or against it) but given I have potentially a good = 8 to 10 hours on Saturday, would like to maximize my touristic appetite by = covering places that I may otherwise not be able to cover during the confer= ence week. During the week days, I plan to cover in and around Berlin as th= e schedule will permit. Sanjay -----Original Message----- From: Toerless Eckert [mailto:eckert@cisco.com]=20 Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:27 AM To: John R Levine Cc: Mishra, Sanjay; <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions Being from Hamburg amd therefore obviously agreeing with Jens assessment, i= 'd also say that you'd have to be a fan of rail travel to do such a day tri= p instead of exploring berlin.=20 If you are a rail fan, then that connection is actually very nice. In fact, there are no airplane routes beetween Hamburg and Berlin because o= f it (since they ramped up the speed). Once in Hamburg, i would do a tour o= n a boat through the harbor for starters. In Berlin, i would start a tour in the center: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_Island I've never done a walking tour of the city, but given all the history i wou= ld expect that thats a very good option too. and then there are just 999 other things left to see ;-) Cheers Toerless On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:36:06AM -0400, John R Levine wrote: > >Are there any specific attractions (must visit) that can be covered=20 > >in ~4 to 5 hours once you get to Hamburg? there? I arrive in Berlin=20 > >on Saturday around 10AM and am contemplating a good use of the latter=20 > >part of the day either exploring Berlin or perhaps a short day trip=20 > >to destinations such as Hamburg. >=20 > Excellent though Hamburg is, there's plenty to do close to Berlin. >=20 > The Sans Souci palace and gardens in Potsdam are a nice afternoon=20 > trip, and they're only about 20 minutes away by S-bahn. >=20 > R's, > John > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! From eckert@cisco.com Fri Jul 19 09:02:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 732C621E80DE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:02:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.077, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CiEH5DHxu0wH for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE04611E82AA for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:01:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2813; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374249715; x=1375459315; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version: in-reply-to; bh=HS9JUsbQFHMVos15sgsF/s6jfFfbzi2j7aPcdwi9mEk=; b=LKU7043E6m7jTg1ruqioV90za/1+BKXm1wWZVddKRoAAdOuqBW6iycf0 nZua4pTuCtmINfgjRQt88vteLktnGjMNlsBMYDR+SDDmTKV7i06jwETzf E4LNV8oIzzI6Hr+Dn/sBUmuZRuC9RQZ/J50URTK6ACtUmezgjDLQs3LhX g=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgIFAN1h6VGrRDoI/2dsb2JhbABbgwY1wRmBEBZ0giQBAQEEAQEBNzQbCxIGCSUPBRMiFBOIDw2vS4c4BI5NCoE/gxBuA4kojjQBkU2DMhyBLAkX X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,702,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="83959000" Received: from mtv-core-3.cisco.com ([171.68.58.8]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 16:01:49 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-3.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6JG1mqo016937 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:01:48 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6JG1cua002703 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:01:38 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r6JG1ctY002702 for 87attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:01:38 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:01:38 -0700 From: "eckert@cisco.com" To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Message-ID: <20130719160138.GA2435@cisco.com> References: <20130708175059.GT17405@cisco.com> <20130713232229.GQ17405@cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130713232229.GQ17405@cisco.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building ! X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:02:03 -0000 Ok, we've got a free ~90 min guided tour (english) for the Reichstag acknowledged. Currently we have ~12 people signed up, we have up to wednesday to take more names onto the list and send the final list back to their tourist office. The time slot is thursday evening 8 PM, show up at the building ideally half an hour earlier (7:30 PM). If you are interested, PM me with your full name and birthdate (as in your passport). This is for security at the building. It's the parliamentary building of Germany, so there is the usual airport style security. Cheers Toerless On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 04:22:29PM -0700, eckert@cisco.com wrote: > Hi folks > > Didn't get the critical mass of 10 folks for eithre slot yet, so will > likely not set this up. I'll wait until tuesday. > > Cheers > Toerless > > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:50:59AM -0700, eckert@cisco.com wrote: > > a) If you want to visit the dome, the prior mails should have been clear: > > Just register with name/birthdate on their web-page. Show up 15 minutes > > before target slot at the building, bring ID. Dome visit is about 20 > > minutes, at least that's how long the audio-guide is. > > > > https://visite.bundestag.de/BAPWeb/pages/createBookingRequest.jsf?lang=en > > > > b) There is no available guided tour through the building proper available > > in english (the regular one on tue noon is booked), but i asked in email, > > and if we send them a request with the list of names/birthdates, they > > would evaluate whether they could offer us a tour. The tours are > > about 90 min. YOu can visit the dome afterwards. > > > > So, if you are interested to get a guided tour, send me an email > > and indicate which of the two slots you would be interested in: > > > > Sun 15:30 (3:30 PM), Thur 18:30 (6:30 PM). > > (Those are official times, i can ask them if the thursday one could > > be made later, eg: 19:30 which gives enough time to get to the > > building after thursdays last seesion - not sure if they'd do that > > late slot though). > > > > If i have more than 10 names interested in any slot, i will ask > > for full name/birthdates and send off the request to them. > > > > Groups may be limited to 30 (not sure). > > > > Cheers > > Toerless > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > -- > --- > Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com > Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture > SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! > -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Fri Jul 19 11:23:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EF521E80AE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:23:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.688 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.688 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.542, BAYES_00=-2.599, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id C+Cw0go1OuId for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cable.comcast.com (copdcavout01.cable.comcast.com [76.96.32.253]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5D411E8147 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([24.40.56.116]) by copdcavout01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id C7WM3M1.83547106; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:22:04 -0600 Received: from PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com ([169.254.8.71]) by pacdcexhub03.cable.comcast.com ([fe80::5527:6d6b:29a7:f414%13]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:22:43 -0400 From: "Livingood, Jason" Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event Thread-Index: AQHOg/Yn/zV4+ajptE6gwJ4+O/OdFplrLHOAgAADYQCAAAMLAIAACMgAgAEWUQA= Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:22:42 +0000 Message-ID: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB676@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <24B20D14B2CD29478C8D5D6E9CBB29F6749BB531@CVA-MB001.centreville.ads.sparta.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.4.120824 x-originating-ip: [68.87.16.248] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB676PACDCEXMB06cabl_" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Murphy, Sandra" , Andrey Lukyanenko , Yoav Nir Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Alexa Morris , Peter Koch , Brian Dickson Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:23:36 -0000 --_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB676PACDCEXMB06cabl_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/18/13 5:46 PM, "Murphy, Sandra" > wrote: If I understand correctly, the social is arranged by the sponsor for the me= eting. So complaining to Alexa about the venue choice is misdirected. I also believe that the sponsor bears part of the cost. So complaining abo= ut the venue capacity sounds a bit ungracious. +1 And from past sponsorship experience (IETF 71, 85, and 86), I can confirm t= hat the sponsor bears 100% of the cost. And these costs are often quite sub= stantial, and they grow as the number of attendees grows. Even when a fee i= s charged for tickets it only defrays a modest part of the costs. Jason --_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB676PACDCEXMB06cabl_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <7453BA9085E16E4E877F7B1334CEB761@cable.comcast.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 7/18/13 5:46 PM, "Murphy, Sandra" <Sandra.Murphy@sparta.com> wrote:

If I understand correctly, the social is arrange= d by the sponsor for the meeting.  So complaining to Alexa about the v= enue choice is misdirected. 

I also believe that the sponsor bears part of th= e cost.  So complaining about the venue capacity sounds a bit ungracio= us.

+1 

And from past sponsorship experience (IETF 71, 85, and 86), I can conf= irm that the sponsor bears 100% of the cost. And these costs are often quite substantial= , and they grow as the number of attendees grows. Even when a fee is charge= d for tickets it only defrays a modest part of the costs.

Jason
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[24.130.151.138]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d8sm24759015wiz.0.2013.07.19.11.31.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:31:48 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> <900A1E2059ADB1 49B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> To: "Mishra, Sanjay" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: Ole Jacobsen , Bob Hinden , Jan Seedorf , John R Levine , Ted Lemon , "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:31:59 -0000 Sanjay, On Jul 19, 2013, at 7:27 AM, "Mishra, Sanjay" = wrote: > Are there any specific attractions (must visit) that can be covered in = ~4 to 5 hours once you get to Hamburg? there? I arrive in Berlin on = Saturday around 10AM and am contemplating a good use of the latter part = of the day either exploring Berlin or perhaps a short day trip to = destinations such as Hamburg. My wife put together the following list of things in Hamburg. We are = going for a day on Tuesday after the meeting. Bob There is a nice slide show that comes up at the top of the page that you = can scan through: = http://www.google.com/search?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Dhamburg+things+t= o+do&ie=3DUTF-8&oe=3DUTF-8 Things I like, in no particular order: Rathaus (town hall) Nikolaikirche (ruins of a church bombed during WWII, very sad but = eloquent) Bismarckdenkmal - giant statue of the statesman Bismarck, which towers = above the surrounding area Alsterarkaden - this whole area is very nice to wander around and one of = my favorite parts of Hamburg - in the summer they have swans swimming in = the water near the steps at the bridge. There are many good restaurants = in this area Link and map: = http://www.google.com/search?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Dnikolaikirche+ha= mburg&ie=3DUTF-8&oe=3DUTF-8#gs_rn=3D21&gs_ri=3Dpsy-ab&gs_mss=3Dnikolaikirc= he%20hamb&pq=3Dnikolaikirche%20hamburg&cp=3D8&gs_id=3D25&xhr=3Dt&q=3Dalste= rarkaden&es_nrs=3Dtrue&pf=3Dp&client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&sclient=3Dpsy-ab&oq= =3Dalsterar&gs_l=3D&pbx=3D1&bav=3Don.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=3Dbv.49478099,d.c= GE&fp=3Dc72878b8c520c49f&biw=3D1281&bih=3D717 Planten un Blomen - a huge public park and garden - really beautiful Boat trip on the Alster Hamburg harbor tour >=20 > Sanjay >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jan Seedorf > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:50 AM > To: Ole Jacobsen; John R Levine > Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions >=20 > Most importantly: If you take the ICE train, from Berlin in 1.5h you = can reach Hamburg, the most beautiful city in Germany >=20 > Trains go every 50 min. or so >=20 > - Jan >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-=20 >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen >> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:16 PM >> To: John R Levine >> Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon >> Subject: [87attendees] Saxony attractions >>=20 >>=20 >> If you have time: Take the train to Leipzig (on your way to or from=20= >> Berlin to/from Frankfurt). The Thomaskirche where J. S. Bach is = buried=20 >> dates from 1212: >>=20 >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Thomas_Church,_Leipzig >>=20 >> http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/LEIPZIG/Bach_Organ.html >>=20 >> The Nicolaikirche is equally impressive. >>=20 >> And Dresden: Wonderfully restored after heavy bombing during WWII,=20 >> very much worth a visit too. >>=20 >> Other historic places along the Frankfurt - Berlin (not so direct)=20 >> route include Eisenach, Weimar, Efurt, Naumburg, Altenburg and=20 >> Lutherstadt Wittenberg. >>=20 >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation >>=20 >> See you in Berlin! >>=20 >> Ole J. Jacobsen >> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems >> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 >> E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >> Skype: organdemo >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Fri Jul 19 11:34:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0AF21E80AE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:34:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.797 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.797 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.433, BAYES_00=-2.599, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i0tvGfuuMoVa for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cable.comcast.com (copdcavout01.cable.comcast.com [76.96.32.253]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8100C21F9808 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([24.40.56.115]) by copdcavout01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id C7WM3M1.83550298; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:33:11 -0600 Received: from PACDCEXHUB05.cable.comcast.com (24.40.56.122) by PACDCEXHUB02.cable.comcast.com (24.40.56.115) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.318.1; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:33:52 -0400 Received: from PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com ([169.254.8.71]) by pacdcexhub05.cable.comcast.com ([fe80::3d40:bdea:7266:7f5a%18]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:33:52 -0400 From: "Livingood, Jason" Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event Thread-Index: AQHOhFUB/zV4+ajptE6gwJ4+O/OdFplsVFkA Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:33:51 +0000 Message-ID: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB749@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <20130719075307.GW30100@x28.adm.denic.de> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.4.120824 x-originating-ip: [68.87.16.247] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB749PACDCEXMB06cabl_" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Koch , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:34:10 -0000 --_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB749PACDCEXMB06cabl_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First, thank you Peter for being a sponsor! I know I am personally looking forward to the social. I was planning to vis= it the museum anyway but to see it during a social is even better. IMHO com= promising on a modestly sized venue but such a unique one is a good decisio= n. Finally, when the secondary trading market in social tickets begins, I am w= illing to sell my social ticket for USD$1,000. ;-) Jason On 7/19/13 3:53 AM, "Peter Koch" > wrote: thank you all for your continued interest in the IETF and the social event = in particular. I'm sorry for everybody who was not able to get a ticket, = so let me add some info and basically confirm what other people already cor= rectly explained. Obviously, we don't run our own theme park. That said, we had to do scoutin= g and had been looking for a promising venue that has a roof (weather isn't= that predictable few weeks out) and a - hopefully - inspiring interior und= erneath. The downside is that this type of venue comes with some strings attached, one of which is "maximum occupancy". The figures were in line with past experience, so we booked. We accept the challenge to meet the expectations expressed both by the demand on tickets and the helpful feedback on this li= st. Knowing that this might not be a satisfactory response and again with apolo= gies, i'd call upon everybody's engineering spirit to use the meeting wiki = for what some parts of the industry call a 'secondary market', recognizing = that this is a hack, not a solution, as well as for finding company for Tue= sday or any other day. Berlin has a lot to offer, even in the vicinity of = the meeting venue and while we'd really like to accomodate everybody, pleas= e let us accept the finiteness of space and resources. Looking forward to a successful IETF meeting - safe travels everyone! --_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB749PACDCEXMB06cabl_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
First, thank you Peter for being a sponsor! 

I know I am personally looking forward to the social. I was planning t= o visit the museum anyway but to see it during a social is even better. IMH= O compromising on a modestly sized venue but such a unique one is a good decision. 

Finally, when the secondary trading market in social tickets begins, I= am willing to sell my social ticket for USD$1,000. ;-)

Jason

On 7/19/13 3:53 AM,= "Peter Koch" <pk@DENIC.DE> wrote:
thank you all for your continued interest in the IETF and the social e= vent in particular.  I'm sorry for everybody who was not abl= e to get a ticket,  so let me add some info and basically confirm what= other people already correctly explained.

Obviously, we don't run our own theme park. That said, we had to do sc= outing and had been looking for a promising venue that has a roof (wea= ther isn't that predictable few weeks out) and a - hopefully - inspiri= ng interior underneath.

The downside is that this type of venue comes with some strings attach= ed,
one of which is "maximum occupancy". The figures were in lin= e with past
experience, so we booked.  We accept the challenge to meet t= he expectations
expressed both by the demand on tickets and the helpful feedback on th= is list.

Knowing that this might not be a satisfactory response and again with = apologies, i'd call upon everybody's engineering spirit to use the mee= ting wiki for what some parts of the industry call a 'secondary market= ', recognizing that this is a hack, not a solution, as well as for finding company for Tuesday or any other day= .  Berlin has a lot to offer, even in the vicinity of the meeting= venue and while we'd really like to accomodate everybody, please let = us accept the finiteness of space and resources.

Looking forward to a successful IETF meeting - safe travels everyone!<= /div>
--_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB749PACDCEXMB06cabl_-- From sanjay.mishra@verizon.com Fri Jul 19 11:36:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 388FD21E80EB for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:36:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.564 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.564 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.035, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9pKIPWmV96MO for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omzsmtpe03.verizonbusiness.com (omzsmtpe03.verizonbusiness.com [199.249.25.208]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E2D221E80DC for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:36:46 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi01.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.143]) by omzsmtpe03.verizonbusiness.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 18:36:45 +0000 From: "Mishra, Sanjay" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,703,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="520588822" Received: from fhdp1lumxc7hb03.verizon.com (HELO FHDP1LUMXC7HB03.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.59.190]) by fldsmtpi01.verizon.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 18:36:40 +0000 Received: from fhdp1lumxc7v23.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.159]) by FHDP1LUMXC7HB03.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.190]) with mapi; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:36:37 -0400 To: Bob Hinden Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:35:40 -0400 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Saxony attractions Thread-Index: Ac6ErkcXWSL3FlkYTN6q+5wqSWPDUwAAFe9g Message-ID: <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92981@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> References: <20130716235805.GR23170@cisco.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2CCB7@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> <900A1E2059ADB1 49B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Jan Seedorf , Ole Jacobsen , John R Levine , Ted Lemon Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:36:51 -0000 Bob -- Thank you. This is great. Appreciate it. -Sanjay- -----Original Message----- From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Bob Hinden Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 2:32 PM To: Mishra, Sanjay Cc: Ole Jacobsen; Bob Hinden; Jan Seedorf; John R Levine; Ted Lemon; <87att= endees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions Sanjay, On Jul 19, 2013, at 7:27 AM, "Mishra, Sanjay" w= rote: > Are there any specific attractions (must visit) that can be covered in ~4= to 5 hours once you get to Hamburg? there? I arrive in Berlin on Saturday = around 10AM and am contemplating a good use of the latter part of the day e= ither exploring Berlin or perhaps a short day trip to destinations such as = Hamburg. My wife put together the following list of things in Hamburg. We are going= for a day on Tuesday after the meeting. Bob There is a nice slide show that comes up at the top of the page that you ca= n scan through: http://www.google.com/search?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Dhamburg+things+to= +do&ie=3DUTF-8&oe=3DUTF-8 Things I like, in no particular order: Rathaus (town hall) Nikolaikirche (ruins of a church bombed during WWII, very sad but eloquent) Bismarckdenkmal - giant statue of the statesman Bismarck, which towers abov= e the surrounding area Alsterarkaden - this whole area is very nice to wander around and one of my= favorite parts of Hamburg - in the summer they have swans swimming in the = water near the steps at the bridge. There are many good restaurants in thi= s area Link and map: http://www.google.com/search?client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&q=3Dnikolaikirche+ham= burg&ie=3DUTF-8&oe=3DUTF-8#gs_rn=3D21&gs_ri=3Dpsy-ab&gs_mss=3Dnikolaikirche= %20hamb&pq=3Dnikolaikirche%20hamburg&cp=3D8&gs_id=3D25&xhr=3Dt&q=3Dalsterar= kaden&es_nrs=3Dtrue&pf=3Dp&client=3Dsafari&rls=3Den&sclient=3Dpsy-ab&oq=3Da= lsterar&gs_l=3D&pbx=3D1&bav=3Don.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=3Dbv.49478099,d.cGE&fp= =3Dc72878b8c520c49f&biw=3D1281&bih=3D717 Planten un Blomen - a huge public park and garden - really beautiful Boat trip on the Alster Hamburg harbor tour >=20 > Sanjay >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20 > [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jan Seedorf > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:50 AM > To: Ole Jacobsen; John R Levine > Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions >=20 > Most importantly: If you take the ICE train, from Berlin in 1.5h you=20 > can reach Hamburg, the most beautiful city in Germany >=20 > Trains go every 50 min. or so >=20 > - Jan >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-=20 >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen >> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:16 PM >> To: John R Levine >> Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon >> Subject: [87attendees] Saxony attractions >>=20 >>=20 >> If you have time: Take the train to Leipzig (on your way to or from=20 >> Berlin to/from Frankfurt). The Thomaskirche where J. S. Bach is=20 >> buried dates from 1212: >>=20 >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Thomas_Church,_Leipzig >>=20 >> http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/LEIPZIG/Bach_Organ.html >>=20 >> The Nicolaikirche is equally impressive. >>=20 >> And Dresden: Wonderfully restored after heavy bombing during WWII,=20 >> very much worth a visit too. >>=20 >> Other historic places along the Frankfurt - Berlin (not so direct)=20 >> route include Eisenach, Weimar, Efurt, Naumburg, Altenburg and=20 >> Lutherstadt Wittenberg. >>=20 >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation >>=20 >> See you in Berlin! >>=20 >> Ole J. Jacobsen >> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems >> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 >> E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj >> Skype: organdemo >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From lucy.yong@huawei.com Fri Jul 19 11:37:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766B621E80EA for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:37:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.38 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.38 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.218, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NUF3+n5+2hzK for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6749221E80D2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml203-edg.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg01-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.5-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id AVF67448; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:37:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from LHREML403-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) by lhreml203-edg.huawei.com (172.18.7.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.7; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:36:03 +0100 Received: from DFWEML406-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.193.5.131) by lhreml403-hub.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.217) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.323.7; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:37:03 +0100 Received: from DFWEML509-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.11.169]) by dfweml406-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.193.5.131]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.007; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:36:55 -0700 From: Lucy yong To: "Livingood, Jason" , Peter Koch , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event Thread-Index: AQHOg9qkVLBCrjKDNk6LWMznHCo27ZlsF6aAgACzBID//4smYA== Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:36:54 +0000 Message-ID: <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527D467@dfweml509-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <20130719075307.GW30100@x28.adm.denic.de> <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB749@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB749@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> Accept-Language: en-US, zh-CN Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.47.134.149] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527D467dfweml509mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:37:16 -0000 --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527D467dfweml509mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Use social event to make such profit is not in the spirit of IETF. :( From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Livingood, Jason Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:34 PM To: Peter Koch; 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event First, thank you Peter for being a sponsor! I know I am personally looking forward to the social. I was planning to vis= it the museum anyway but to see it during a social is even better. IMHO com= promising on a modestly sized venue but such a unique one is a good decisio= n. Finally, when the secondary trading market in social tickets begins, I am w= illing to sell my social ticket for USD$1,000. ;-) Jason On 7/19/13 3:53 AM, "Peter Koch" > wrote: thank you all for your continued interest in the IETF and the social event = in particular. I'm sorry for everybody who was not able to get a ticket, = so let me add some info and basically confirm what other people already cor= rectly explained. Obviously, we don't run our own theme park. That said, we had to do scoutin= g and had been looking for a promising venue that has a roof (weather isn't= that predictable few weeks out) and a - hopefully - inspiring interior und= erneath. The downside is that this type of venue comes with some strings attached, one of which is "maximum occupancy". The figures were in line with past experience, so we booked. We accept the challenge to meet the expectations expressed both by the demand on tickets and the helpful feedback on this li= st. Knowing that this might not be a satisfactory response and again with apolo= gies, i'd call upon everybody's engineering spirit to use the meeting wiki = for what some parts of the industry call a 'secondary market', recognizing = that this is a hack, not a solution, as well as for finding company for Tue= sday or any other day. Berlin has a lot to offer, even in the vicinity of = the meeting venue and while we'd really like to accomodate everybody, pleas= e let us accept the finiteness of space and resources. Looking forward to a successful IETF meeting - safe travels everyone! --_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527D467dfweml509mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Use social event to make = such profit is not in the spirit of IETF.  L

 <= /p>

From: 87attend= ees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Livingood, Jason
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Peter Koch; 87attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out o= f event

 

First, thank you Peter for being a sponsor!&= nbsp;

 

I know I am personally looking forward to th= e social. I was planning to visit the museum anyway but to see it during a = social is even better. IMHO compromising on a modestly sized venue but such a unique one is a good decision. 

 

Finally, when the secondary trading market i= n social tickets begins, I am willing to sell my social ticket for USD$1,00= 0. ;-)

 

Jason

 

On = 7/19/13 3:53 AM, "Peter Koch" <pk@DENIC.DE<= /span>> wrote:

tha= nk you all for your continued interest in the IETF and the social event&nbs= p;in particular.  I'm sorry for everybody who was not able to get= a ticket,  so let me add some info and basically confirm what other people already correctly explained.

 

Obv= iously, we don't run our own theme park. That said, we had to do scouting&n= bsp;and had been looking for a promising venue that has a roof (weather isn= 't that predictable few weeks out) and a - hopefully - inspiring interior underneath.

 

The= downside is that this type of venue comes with some strings attached,=

one= of which is "maximum occupancy". The figures were in line with p= ast

exp= erience, so we booked.  We accept the challenge to meet the expec= tations

exp= ressed both by the demand on tickets and the helpful feedback on this list.=

 

Kno= wing that this might not be a satisfactory response and again with apologie= s, i'd call upon everybody's engineering spirit to use the meeting wik= i for what some parts of the industry call a 'secondary market', recognizing that this is a hack, not a solution= , as well as for finding company for Tuesday or any other day. &n= bsp;Berlin has a lot to offer, even in the vicinity of the meeting venue&nb= sp;and while we'd really like to accomodate everybody, please let us accept the finiteness of space and resources.

 

Loo= king forward to a successful IETF meeting - safe travels everyone!

--_000_2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527D467dfweml509mbxchi_-- From jason_livingood@cable.comcast.com Fri Jul 19 11:39:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7669021E80F2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:39:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.806, BAYES_00=-2.599, HOST_EQ_MODEMCABLE=1.368, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2AdUwSDLB0Gc for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cable.comcast.com (pacdcavout01.cable.comcast.com [69.241.43.119]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FD321E80B6 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ([24.40.56.116]) by pacdcavout01.cable.comcast.com with ESMTP id 97wm3m1.59127158; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:38:28 -0400 Received: from PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com ([169.254.8.71]) by pacdcexhub03.cable.comcast.com ([fe80::5527:6d6b:29a7:f414%13]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.001; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:38:25 -0400 From: "Livingood, Jason" To: Lucy yong , Peter Koch , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event Thread-Index: AQHOhFUB/zV4+ajptE6gwJ4+O/OdFplsVFkAgABD7AD//71UAA== Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:38:24 +0000 Message-ID: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB8D3@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <2691CE0099834E4A9C5044EEC662BB9D4527D467@dfweml509-mbx.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.4.120824 x-originating-ip: [68.87.16.248] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB8D3PACDCEXMB06cabl_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:39:07 -0000 --_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB8D3PACDCEXMB06cabl_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Obviously I was joking of course. ;-) On 7/19/13 2:36 PM, "Lucy yong" > wrote: Use social event to make such profit is not in the spirit of IETF. :( From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [ma= ilto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Livingood, Jason Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:34 PM To: Peter Koch; 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event First, thank you Peter for being a sponsor! I know I am personally looking forward to the social. I was planning to vis= it the museum anyway but to see it during a social is even better. IMHO com= promising on a modestly sized venue but such a unique one is a good decisio= n. Finally, when the secondary trading market in social tickets begins, I am w= illing to sell my social ticket for USD$1,000. ;-) Jason On 7/19/13 3:53 AM, "Peter Koch" > wrote: thank you all for your continued interest in the IETF and the social event = in particular. I'm sorry for everybody who was not able to get a ticket, = so let me add some info and basically confirm what other people already cor= rectly explained. Obviously, we don't run our own theme park. That said, we had to do scoutin= g and had been looking for a promising venue that has a roof (weather isn't= that predictable few weeks out) and a - hopefully - inspiring interior und= erneath. The downside is that this type of venue comes with some strings attached, one of which is "maximum occupancy". The figures were in line with past experience, so we booked. We accept the challenge to meet the expectations expressed both by the demand on tickets and the helpful feedback on this li= st. Knowing that this might not be a satisfactory response and again with apolo= gies, i'd call upon everybody's engineering spirit to use the meeting wiki = for what some parts of the industry call a 'secondary market', recognizing = that this is a hack, not a solution, as well as for finding company for Tue= sday or any other day. Berlin has a lot to offer, even in the vicinity of = the meeting venue and while we'd really like to accomodate everybody, pleas= e let us accept the finiteness of space and resources. Looking forward to a successful IETF meeting - safe travels everyone! --_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB8D3PACDCEXMB06cabl_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Obviously I was joking of course. ;-)

On 7/19/13 2:36 PM, "Lucy yong" <lucy.yong@huawei.com> wrote:

Use social event to make such prof= it is not in the spirit of IETF.  L

 

From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.or= g [mailto:87attendees-b= ounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Livingood, Jason
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:34 PM
To: Peter Koch; 87attendees@= ietf.org
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out o= f event

 

First, thank you Peter for being a sponsor! 

 

I know I am personally looking forward to the social. I was pl= anning to visit the museum anyway but to see it during a social is even bet= ter. IMHO compromising on a modestly sized venue but such a unique one is a good decision. 

 

Finally, when the secondary trading market in social tickets b= egins, I am willing to sell my social ticket for USD$1,000. ;-)<= /span>

 

Jason

 

On = 7/19/13 3:53 AM, "Peter Koch" <pk@DENIC.DE<= /span>> wrote:

tha= nk you all for your continued interest in the IETF and the social event&nbs= p;in particular.  I'm sorry for everybody who was not able to get= a ticket,  so let me add some info and basically confirm what other people already correctly explained.

 

Obv= iously, we don't run our own theme park. That said, we had to do scouting&n= bsp;and had been looking for a promising venue that has a roof (weather isn= 't that predictable few weeks out) and a - hopefully - inspiring interior underneath.

 

The= downside is that this type of venue comes with some strings attached,=

one= of which is "maximum occupancy". The figures were in line with p= ast

exp= erience, so we booked.  We accept the challenge to meet the expec= tations

exp= ressed both by the demand on tickets and the helpful feedback on this list.=

 

Kno= wing that this might not be a satisfactory response and again with apologie= s, i'd call upon everybody's engineering spirit to use the meeting wik= i for what some parts of the industry call a 'secondary market', recognizing that this is a hack, not a solution= , as well as for finding company for Tuesday or any other day. &n= bsp;Berlin has a lot to offer, even in the vicinity of the meeting venue&nb= sp;and while we'd really like to accomodate everybody, please let us accept the finiteness of space and resources.

 

Loo= king forward to a successful IETF meeting - safe travels everyone!

 --_000_10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB8D3PACDCEXMB06cabl_-- From carlos@lacnic.net Fri Jul 19 11:49:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C4C11E8145 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:49:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.307 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.307 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=3.354, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id W0IiHCW+PleY for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DD911E818D for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bonaire.local (unknown [201.229.97.70]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA95C308464; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:48:43 -0300 (UYT) Message-ID: <51E98A1B.9050303@lacnic.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:48:59 -0400 From: "Carlos M. Martinez" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Livingood, Jason" References: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB749@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB749@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080107010504030301070309" X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: carlos@lacnic.net Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Peter Koch Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 18:49:17 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080107010504030301070309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So not unlike the IPv4 transfer market :-) On 7/19/13 2:33 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote: > First, thank you Peter for being a sponsor! > > I know I am personally looking forward to the social. I was planning > to visit the museum anyway but to see it during a social is even > better. IMHO compromising on a modestly sized venue but such a > /unique/ one is a good decision. > > Finally, when the secondary trading market in social tickets begins, I > am willing to sell my social ticket for USD$1,000. ;-) > > Jason > > On 7/19/13 3:53 AM, "Peter Koch" > wrote: > > thank you all for your continued interest in the IETF and the > social event in particular. I'm sorry for everybody who was not > able to get a ticket, so let me add some info and basically > confirm what other people already correctly explained. > > Obviously, we don't run our own theme park. That said, we had to > do scouting and had been looking for a promising venue that has a > roof (weather isn't that predictable few weeks out) and a - > hopefully - inspiring interior underneath. > > > The downside is that this type of venue comes with some strings > attached, > one of which is "maximum occupancy". The figures were in line with > past > experience, so we booked. We accept the challenge to meet the > expectations > expressed both by the demand on tickets and the helpful feedback > on this list. > > Knowing that this might not be a satisfactory response and again > with apologies, i'd call upon everybody's engineering spirit to > use the meeting wiki for what some parts of the industry call a > 'secondary market', recognizing that this is a hack, not a > solution, as well as for finding company for Tuesday or any other > day. Berlin has a lot to offer, even in the vicinity of the > meeting venue and while we'd really like to accomodate everybody, > please let us accept the finiteness of space and resources. > > Looking forward to a successful IETF meeting - safe travels everyone! > > > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --------------080107010504030301070309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So not unlike the IPv4 transfer market :-)

On 7/19/13 2:33 PM, Livingood, Jason wrote:
First, thank you Peter for being a sponsor! 

I know I am personally looking forward to the social. I was planning to visit the museum anyway but to see it during a social is even better. IMHO compromising on a modestly sized venue but such a unique one is a good decision. 

Finally, when the secondary trading market in social tickets begins, I am willing to sell my social ticket for USD$1,000. ;-)

Jason

On 7/19/13 3:53 AM, "Peter Koch" <pk@DENIC.DE> wrote:
thank you all for your continued interest in the IETF and the social event in particular.  I'm sorry for everybody who was not able to get a ticket,  so let me add some info and basically confirm what other people already correctly explained.

Obviously, we don't run our own theme park. That said, we had to do scouting and had been looking for a promising venue that has a roof (weather isn't that predictable few weeks out) and a - hopefully - inspiring interior underneath.

The downside is that this type of venue comes with some strings attached,
one of which is "maximum occupancy". The figures were in line with past
experience, so we booked.  We accept the challenge to meet the expectations
expressed both by the demand on tickets and the helpful feedback on this list.

Knowing that this might not be a satisfactory response and again with apologies, i'd call upon everybody's engineering spirit to use the meeting wiki for what some parts of the industry call a 'secondary market', recognizing that this is a hack, not a solution, as well as for finding company for Tuesday or any other day.  Berlin has a lot to offer, even in the vicinity of the meeting venue and while we'd really like to accomodate everybody, please let us accept the finiteness of space and resources.

Looking forward to a successful IETF meeting - safe travels everyone!


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--------------080107010504030301070309-- From johnl@taugh.com Fri Jul 19 12:01:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1F311E82E7 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:01:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.564 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.564 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.036, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AHrHXCTwqxLJ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3D411E81CF for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:00:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25053 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2013 19:00:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=61dc.51e98ce4.k1307; bh=S6doMP97yM/+NgFTrNySAoGjO/V/P05nktAP5EUHIZw=; b=HliLR7I1woXZNDnZER1zdKOz6n6AWv56N2uYxfq6sJ4c5NHozL634pSJUuQrHHCUPYYVIDpAG1K/xRuwASOm32pknksx83jGZxEjKhrK9NHntyHC9TF+0JJ1uhDiuf591yZBarKwZNxAYbJAlVmMCvkzHPdDK3IYyimDqvJXHvpTmDb66e8CvuGNHvNzP2Nilxf07dpxN7H7lJP/+sR3UjXMCJc9DVATIFe/6xb16AB8HnApzU5X81XoP7nDYAbr DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=61dc.51e98ce4.k1307; bh=S6doMP97yM/+NgFTrNySAoGjO/V/P05nktAP5EUHIZw=; b=vdG/RfBs0/2yjnoWjVJtbVf5B+XcKgBCeK/HG6oBbETjcNKDGxG9OxYp5GzgrrHTz8URxObjYuFou3RRejKmgIOw9BoHEhdWCuREY0NJJUk0hh5p60sihc29HT3d7A3PwApNVCfRQf0BY+fguSlHHjDVQsGRlv1ecjflSOb1asnrVvYRMCIti9zsH6XkBU7y3rOwh/NX2NIJsXvpoeDTSST3IIg7JpW1vL4FhoTiHhM+XLfF3cuPjW1zbEVKKGNW Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 19 Jul 2013 19:00:30 -0000 Date: 19 Jul 2013 15:00:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Livingood, Jason" In-Reply-To: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB749@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> References: <10229F86C86EB444898E629583FD4171B1CBB749@PACDCEXMB06.cable.comcast.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; BOUNDARY="3825401791-191095726-1374260452=:19535" Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:01:14 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --3825401791-191095726-1374260452=:19535 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > I know I am personally looking forward to the social. I was planning to visit the museum anyway but to see it during a social is even better. IMHO compromising on a modestly sized venue but such a unique one is a good decision. The similar event for MAAWG last year was great, even for those of us who know that Otto Lilienthal didn't quite invent the aeroplane. > Finally, when the secondary trading market in social tickets begins, I > am willing to sell my social ticket for USD$1,000. ;-) That's an outrage. Mine is only $995 (plus VAT, of course.) 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Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:15:37 -0700 From: "Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)" To: John R Levine Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event Thread-Index: AQHOg9p/QvSNlNIknkuVrFNf2PVjBZlsF6aAgACzBYCAAAeMAP//jsUA Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:15:37 +0000 Message-ID: <589EA5BBF4FD874783A192F91A67C3CE3A668EE3@USUSHEMWP011.mail.tfayd.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.4.120824 x-originating-ip: [3.197.155.46] x-exclaimer-md-config: 47edc00f-f2d6-45ef-be83-8a353bd47e45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Event - questions about sell-out of event X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:15:47 -0000 What's the process for VAT reclaim? VAT on $995 makes it worth filling in the forms at the airport. -glenn On 7/19/13 12:00 PM, "John R Levine" wrote: >> I know I am personally looking forward to the social. I was planning to >>visit the museum anyway but to see it during a social is even better. >>IMHO compromising on a modestly sized venue but such a unique one is a >>good decision. > >The similar event for MAAWG last year was great, even for those of us who >know that Otto Lilienthal didn't quite invent the aeroplane. > >> Finally, when the secondary trading market in social tickets begins, I >> am willing to sell my social ticket for USD$1,000. ;-) > >That's an outrage. Mine is only $995 (plus VAT, of course.) > >Regards, >John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY >"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. From eckert@cisco.com Fri Jul 19 12:32:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFEF11E8159 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:32:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.225 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.225 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.226, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_44=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3hYJnUKDAzrJ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtv-iport-3.cisco.com (mtv-iport-3.cisco.com [173.36.130.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC2A21F9A50 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:32:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=6942; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374262334; x=1375471934; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=MK8Ll2vagbh4H/tEX5Ausik7XA4alI2vBDug3nC8LbA=; b=delEQK4CxGsEEOO4M+k9Q1ppCaISmPp5POIOHFC/ctEFK8INDwMW+OPo kmmihicKgOH3XklPQZwkN+9gmedhJr5wdhOn3qLknvbBPxxIMB8bUd1OD 3Ctj49hJ0KlXF5is8X+gNYoe+qIPDe1dvau/vz2Yh9gbTlRGWXpmpMYEe k=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,704,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="83977077" Received: from mtv-core-2.cisco.com ([171.68.58.7]) by mtv-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 19:32:14 +0000 Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (mcast-linux1.cisco.com [172.27.244.121]) by mtv-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6JJWDUB004215 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:32:13 GMT Received: from mcast-linux1.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6JJWCmm011742; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:32:12 -0700 Received: (from eckert@localhost) by mcast-linux1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id r6JJWBbH011741; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:32:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:32:11 -0700 From: Toerless Eckert To: Bob Hinden Message-ID: <20130719193211.GT23170@cisco.com> References: <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: Ole Jacobsen , "Mishra, Sanjay" , Jan Seedorf , John R Levine , Ted Lemon , "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:32:18 -0000 On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:31:48AM -0700, Bob Hinden wrote: > Rathaus (town hall) I still can not get over the new look&feel after they cleaned it up from 150 years of corrosive air and dirt a few years ago. Looks freshly built now. Also has a good restaurant downstairs. > Nikolaikirche (ruins of a church bombed during WWII, very sad but eloquent) Still looks better than the new "modern" Nikolaikirche they built after the war (kidding). > Bismarckdenkmal - giant statue of the statesman Bismarck, which towers above the surrounding area Or eat a bismarck herring sandwich, traditional fare ;-)) > Alsterarkaden - this whole area is very nice to wander around and one of my favorite parts of Hamburg - in the summer they have swans swimming in the water near the steps at the bridge. There are many good restaurants in this area Indeed. Our office is around the block. There is also a recently opened new indoor shopping mall around the corner (www.europa-passage.de), but if you ask me, the old, smaller shops along Jungfernstieg are better. The whole area is scattered with a maze of indoor malls though. Brought to you by often rainy Hamburg weather - be prepared. > Planten un Blomen - a huge public park and garden - really beautiful Yes, visit the "Tropengewaechshaus" in there. Looks as if they've got some interesting new plants. Its not "huge" though. If you want huge: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohlsdorf_Cemetery And if you want a park with an even greater diversity of animal life than Planten & Bloomen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tierpark_Hagenbeck Pretty innovate when it was founded, and really a great park. Should have a new arctic exhibition open now too. Now, if you're really into park & plants, there is a big national garden show/exhibit in Germany every year, this year it's in Hamburg: http://www.igs-hamburg.de/en/ It's a 15 min subway ride from the center of the city. I think they tore up a whole old working class quarter to build this exhibition. Pretty expensive though. Friends told me the best deal is to get there after 6 PM, they' open very late and have seemingly good lightning in the evening as well. That's what i am going to visit. > Boat trip on the Alster The non-lazy alternative ;-) is to grab a bicycle and cycle it around the alster. The bicycles are everywhere and supposedly easy to rent. Couple of good places to hang out around the alster as well. > Hamburg harbor tour Definitely, the classic. Your list is pretty good if you're not interested in artsy stuff ("Museums"). To me the one missing must-do Hamburg attraction is this: http://www.miniatur-wunderland.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniatur_Wunderland Even if you don't care about model trains at all, you have to see it. It's an obsessive labor of love, totally over the top and with an unbelievable number of ideas and degree of detail. We found the WAF to be surprisingly high too. After those folks showed how successfull such a big model rail exhibit can be, there where a couple of ripoffs built in germany, for example the one in Berlin: http://loxx-berlin.de/, but from all i have seen on TV, they are a lot more flat commercial focussed and have no comparable imaginative character. And the folks building it are working like an ideal gas, they're trying to eat up as much space from that building as they can over the years. A behind the scenes tour is great, although you need to check your waistline. Tight wandering behind the scenery ;-) This exhibition is btw. in the old port warehouse harbor of hamburg that was used to trade in coffee, tea spieces and the like for hundreds of years and that they recently rebuilt to be the most expensive living quarter. There are a bunch of other museums around the history in the area. Up to a few years ago, you had to show your passport to get into the area because it was customs-free area. Very interesting walk in the area as well. Take a look at the new philharmonic building around the corner. I think the ratio of planned costs vs. actual cost even exceeds the Big Dig and the new airport in Berlin, and i still don't believe their latest "final" time/money numbers are really "final". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HafenCity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbe_Philharmonic_Hall Cheers Toerless > > > > > > Sanjay > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jan Seedorf > > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:50 AM > > To: Ole Jacobsen; John R Levine > > Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions > > > > Most importantly: If you take the ICE train, from Berlin in 1.5h you can reach Hamburg, the most beautiful city in Germany > > > > Trains go every 50 min. or so > > > > - Jan > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees- > >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ole Jacobsen > >> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:16 PM > >> To: John R Levine > >> Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Ted Lemon > >> Subject: [87attendees] Saxony attractions > >> > >> > >> If you have time: Take the train to Leipzig (on your way to or from > >> Berlin to/from Frankfurt). The Thomaskirche where J. S. Bach is buried > >> dates from 1212: > >> > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Thomas_Church,_Leipzig > >> > >> http://www.yikes.com/~ole/store/LEIPZIG/Bach_Organ.html > >> > >> The Nicolaikirche is equally impressive. > >> > >> And Dresden: Wonderfully restored after heavy bombing during WWII, > >> very much worth a visit too. > >> > >> Other historic places along the Frankfurt - Berlin (not so direct) > >> route include Eisenach, Weimar, Efurt, Naumburg, Altenburg and > >> Lutherstadt Wittenberg. > >> > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Reformation > >> > >> See you in Berlin! > >> > >> Ole J. Jacobsen > >> Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems > >> Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 > >> E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj > >> Skype: organdemo > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> 87attendees mailing list > >> 87attendees@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From sperdomo@dtcc.com Fri Jul 19 12:37:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6119311E819E for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:37:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_22=0.6] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fNcvuayXO6qP for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sxinet05.dtcc.com (sxinet05.dtcc.com [207.45.45.43]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26D811E81A3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:37:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Perdomo, Sigfrido E." To: "eckert@cisco.com" , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building ! Thread-Index: AQHOhJlYYTh69g9WVkurCSiylPLQ05lsZPjQ Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:37:13 +0000 Message-ID: <1ECC4CDA2258BE4B9E520493EA3535BE78CF57DD@SXEMBP01.corp.dtcc.com> References: <20130708175059.GT17405@cisco.com> <20130713232229.GQ17405@cisco.com> <20130719160138.GA2435@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <20130719160138.GA2435@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.18.113.13] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building ! X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:37:34 -0000 Hi Please sign my companion & myselfup forthis! =0D=0A=0D=0ASavina Cavallo= - 03/15/55=0D=0ASigfrido Eduard Perdomo - 10/15/53=0D=0A=0D=0AThanks in= advance=2E=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A-----Original Message-----=0D=0AFrom: 87attend= ees-bounces@ietf=2Eorg [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf=2Eorg] On Behalf Of= eckert@cisco=2Ecom=0D=0ASent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:02 AM=0D=0ATo: 87at= tendees@ietf=2Eorg=0D=0ASubject: Re: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour throu= gh Reichstag building !=0D=0A=0D=0AOk, we've got a free ~90 min guided tour= (english) for the Reichstag acknowledged=2E Currently we have ~12 people s= igned up, we have up to wednesday to take more names onto the list and send= the final list back to their tourist office=2E=0D=0A=0D=0AThe time slot is= thursday evening 8 PM, show up at the building ideally half an hour earlie= r (7:30 PM)=2E If you are interested, PM me with your full name and birthda= te (as in your passport)=2E This is for security at the building=2E It's th= e parliamentary building of Germany, so there is the usual airport style se= curity=2E=0D=0A=0D=0ACheers=0D=0A Toerless=0D=0A=0D=0AOn Sat, Jul 13, 20= 13 at 04:22:29PM -0700, eckert@cisco=2Ecom wrote:=0D=0A> Hi folks=0D=0A> = =0D=0A> Didn't get the critical mass of 10 folks for eithre slot yet, so wi= ll =0D=0A> likely not set this up=2E I'll wait until tuesday=2E=0D=0A> =0D= =0A> Cheers=0D=0A> Toerless=0D=0A> =0D=0A> On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:5= 0:59AM -0700, eckert@cisco=2Ecom wrote:=0D=0A> > a) If you want to visit th= e dome, the prior mails should have been clear:=0D=0A> > Just register w= ith name/birthdate on their web-page=2E Show up 15 minutes=0D=0A> > befo= re target slot at the building, bring ID=2E Dome visit is about 20=0D=0A> >= minutes, at least that's how long the audio-guide is=2E=0D=0A> > =0D=0A= > > =0D=0A> > https://visite=2Ebundestag=2Ede/BAPWeb/pages/createBooking= Request=2Ejsf?la=0D=0A> > ng=3Den=0D=0A> > =0D=0A> > b) There is no availab= le guided tour through the building proper available=0D=0A> > in english= (the regular one on tue noon is booked), but i asked in email,=0D=0A> > = and if we send them a request with the list of names/birthdates, they=0D= =0A> > would evaluate whether they could offer us a tour=2E The tours ar= e =0D=0A> > about 90 min=2E YOu can visit the dome afterwards=2E=0D=0A> = > =0D=0A> > So, if you are interested to get a guided tour, send me an e= mail=0D=0A> > and indicate which of the two slots you would be intereste= d in:=0D=0A> > =0D=0A> > Sun 15:30 (3:30 PM), Thur 18:30 (6:30 PM)=2E=0D= =0A> > (Those are official times, i can ask them if the thursday one cou= ld=0D=0A> > be made later, eg: 19:30 which gives enough time to get to = the=0D=0A> > building after thursdays last seesion - not sure if they'd= do that=0D=0A> > late slot though)=2E=0D=0A> > =0D=0A> > If i have = more than 10 names interested in any slot, i will ask=0D=0A> > for full = name/birthdates and send off the request to them=2E=0D=0A> > =0D=0A> > G= roups may be limited to 30 (not sure)=2E=0D=0A> > =0D=0A> > Cheers=0D=0A> >= Toerless=0D=0A> > _______________________________________________=0D= =0A> > 87attendees mailing list=0D=0A> > 87attendees@ietf=2Eorg=0D=0A> > ht= tps://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/87attendees=0D=0A> =0D=0A> --=0D=0A= > ---=0D=0A> Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco=2Ecom=0D=0A> Cisco NSSTG Systems= & Technology Architecture=0D=0A> SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy!= =0D=0A> =0D=0A=0D=0A-- =0D=0A---=0D=0AToerless Eckert, eckert@cisco=2Ecom= =0D=0ACisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture=0D=0ASDN: Let me play w= ith the network, mommy!=0D=0A=0D=0A________________________________________= _______=0D=0A87attendees mailing list=0D=0A87attendees@ietf=2Eorg=0D=0Ahttp= s://www=2Eietf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/87attendees=0D=0A
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To: "eckert@cisco.com" , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building ! Thread-Index: AQHOhJlYYTh69g9WVkurCSiylPLQ05lsZPjQgAAEdIA= Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:52:03 +0000 Message-ID: <1ECC4CDA2258BE4B9E520493EA3535BE78CF5820@SXEMBP01.corp.dtcc.com> References: <20130708175059.GT17405@cisco.com> <20130713232229.GQ17405@cisco.com> <20130719160138.GA2435@cisco.com> <1ECC4CDA2258BE4B9E520493EA3535BE78CF57DD@SXEMBP01.corp.dtcc.com> In-Reply-To: <1ECC4CDA2258BE4B9E520493EA3535BE78CF57DD@SXEMBP01.corp.dtcc.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.18.113.13] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building ! X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:52:26 -0000 Sigfrido Eduardo Perdomo - 10/15/53 Apoligies...forgot the 'O' and the end of Eduardo. -----Original Message----- From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Perdomo, Sigfrido E. Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 2:37 PM To: eckert@cisco.com; 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building ! Hi Please sign my companion & myselfup forthis! =20 Savina Cavallo - 03/15/55 Sigfrido Eduard Perdomo - 10/15/53 Thanks in advance. -----Original Message----- From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of eckert@cisco.com Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:02 AM To: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building ! Ok, we've got a free ~90 min guided tour (english) for the Reichstag acknow= ledged. Currently we have ~12 people signed up, we have up to wednesday to = take more names onto the list and send the final list back to their tourist= office. The time slot is thursday evening 8 PM, show up at the building ideally hal= f an hour earlier (7:30 PM). If you are interested, PM me with your full na= me and birthdate (as in your passport). This is for security at the buildin= g. It's the parliamentary building of Germany, so there is the usual airpor= t style security. Cheers Toerless On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 04:22:29PM -0700, eckert@cisco.com wrote: > Hi folks >=20 > Didn't get the critical mass of 10 folks for eithre slot yet, so will=20 > likely not set this up. I'll wait until tuesday. >=20 > Cheers > Toerless >=20 > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:50:59AM -0700, eckert@cisco.com wrote: > > a) If you want to visit the dome, the prior mails should have been clea= r: > > Just register with name/birthdate on their web-page. Show up 15 minu= tes > > before target slot at the building, bring ID. Dome visit is about 20 > > minutes, at least that's how long the audio-guide is. > >=20 > > =20 > > https://visite.bundestag.de/BAPWeb/pages/createBookingRequest.jsf?la > > ng=3Den > >=20 > > b) There is no available guided tour through the building proper availa= ble > > in english (the regular one on tue noon is booked), but i asked in e= mail, > > and if we send them a request with the list of names/birthdates, the= y > > would evaluate whether they could offer us a tour. The tours are=20 > > about 90 min. YOu can visit the dome afterwards. > >=20 > > So, if you are interested to get a guided tour, send me an email > > and indicate which of the two slots you would be interested in: > >=20 > > Sun 15:30 (3:30 PM), Thur 18:30 (6:30 PM). > > (Those are official times, i can ask them if the thursday one could > > be made later, eg: 19:30 which gives enough time to get to the > > building after thursdays last seesion - not sure if they'd do that > > late slot though). > >=20 > > If i have more than 10 names interested in any slot, i will ask > > for full name/birthdates and send off the request to them. > >=20 > > Groups may be limited to 30 (not sure). > >=20 > > Cheers > > Toerless > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 > -- > --- > Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com > Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture > SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! >=20 -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com Cisco NSSTG Systems & Technology Architecture SDN: Let me play with the network, mommy! _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees
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The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any vir= us transmitted by this email. ______________________________________= _________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From paitken@cisco.com Fri Jul 19 13:33:52 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F229621F9D71 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:33:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mgSueGDvUaZt for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-2.cisco.com (ams-iport-2.cisco.com [144.254.224.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350CB21F9CE7 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:33:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=494; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374266026; x=1375475626; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vkiV4B9vLCeInb+4Bfp2lt12BBDzxaNXx/JXhIXNzUc=; b=Zgf0ejxbVZh3C/1C4r5Au4w6fN/O+ZH9pyjyOKqZDqDaG3Hgl90stnRO +XksZd92ECmnlokRX+k5GVbVb7WvOw+lnF+fBHW6MaV1Nc1bUcD1V9HSi PombpYETZ9uEmbc7vFqGHGJ6WCnVcu7GFu9kT7rqNBPbt0JX+pErQ8CzX Y=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,704,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="84747787" Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com ([144.254.72.81]) by ams-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 20:33:44 +0000 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.70.36]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6JKXgTa020316 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:33:42 GMT Received: from [10.61.163.246] ([10.61.163.246]) by cisco.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id r6JKXfGa020728; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:33:41 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <51E9A2A5.8080103@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:33:41 +0100 From: Paul Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "eckert@cisco.com" References: <20130708175059.GT17405@cisco.com> <20130713232229.GQ17405@cisco.com> <20130719160138.GA2435@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <20130719160138.GA2435@cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building ! X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 20:33:52 -0000 Toerless, > If you are interested, PM me with your full name and birthdate (as in your passport). > This is for security at the building. It's the parliamentary building of Germany, so there is the usual airport style security. How does that work? I PM you details from my fake ID, then on the day they check those details against the fake ID... ? Or is there a no-fly, no-Reichstag-entry list, against which they'll check our supposedly unique (name + DoB) details? :-) From msj@nthpermutation.com Fri Jul 19 13:34:56 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DDF11E80D3 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:34:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1gQqhHXXQCXl for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-f45.google.com (mail-qa0-f45.google.com [209.85.216.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1522321E8097 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id ci6so125623qab.4 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:34:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=b3RlLi/CIVsbB/kq9nuqQ7jgkvNK0WUAWyxamV9FZ1c=; b=MrJU15RURvE/32wkSYUnfH37DTWJQ0Ht4CoZhkpP5V/JHMQi7DDzCWNjdY7WRVIQrt DrSnAAtDC0vnggpXhmvboA10lHqSjypgHWcwvwMFJfrKXnKNK2j3dIVeVIPBQ6IuiSYj Y+5t1jg+nCcF9tZnCNjkiOPP7qwWiLjPHmYF+w98kVT5QthmYQtmeCA/waZEy8nNq65i FOEufU+hfSzDO0MkN7zZR5dlnqwVW8rbfsnnpFJq+K1EyxysKyPXSl5bQwVQu7s0OsRU eTaen9NL32NqGHZrGk01SCTlj/xOqkNC/7gmdReZpb8sPMOzlKpihOFvSlQbAPago8Jr qGAw== X-Received: by 10.49.127.4 with SMTP id nc4mr19269155qeb.41.1374266089484; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.120] (c-68-83-212-126.hsd1.md.comcast.net. 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I found a pretty nice pamphlet on the Brussels airport website explaining how to get from B (non-schengen) to A (schengen) gates. However, that pamplet is hosted by issuu.com. It displayed the pamphlet as a flash, and after a bit I figured out how to request a download. But the only way you can get a download (and subsequently print) the pamphlet is to either login via facebook or create an issuu.com account. At least it was free, but there's yet another site that is going to be spamming me for years. I'm not sure why I should be required to give my contact information to get a document prepared by the Brussels airport for Brussels passengers. I'm not quite sure why the airport website didn't just have a link to a PDF. Seems extremely anti-privacy for the EU marketplace. If anyone else needs transfer information for Brussels from B to A, I'm happy to send along the PDF. Mike From robmgl@cisco.com Fri Jul 19 14:16:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C9C11E810D for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:16:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NY6XDhALnyUS for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:16:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5798311E80E3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:16:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2741; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1374268573; x=1375478173; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=+wPfx9k3x4gS2xWeBTM9fxPyQ+fCS4dAOHfzhjyqIko=; b=bSmHoFoAD6vgcKo7kCM5JgcHBenP74n4xjfaRyyyOwuhMnEizsKYUeFu fijd3Qeh0Lwpe4I+ej870ksjgcqOLBTLW9G+uVn4CSJrXNf6tvJRQrRzo UNas154oAmxYfDxDh83+To1Gd3JMF5bi4djGS2E/X770DbsYnMfxhMuSD A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AroZAK2r6VGtJXG9/2dsb2JhbABbgXEEAUxENVDASYERFnSCJgEELV4BDB5WJgEEG4gIlmegUI9eg0huA6kqgxKCKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,704,1367971200"; d="scan'208,217";a="237149354" Received: from rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com ([173.37.113.189]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 21:16:13 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com [173.37.183.86]) by rcdn-core2-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6JLGCr4022559 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:16:12 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x01.cisco.com ([169.254.1.35]) by xhc-rcd-x12.cisco.com ([173.37.183.86]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:16:12 -0500 From: "Roberta Maglione (robmgl)" To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Gluten free food in Berlin Thread-Index: Ac6ExTGYDYrv+b0zTOa0yKg+fb846A== Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:16:12 +0000 Message-ID: <57C3345230A4F94C9B2F5CFA05D7F2BD1D27DBBE@xmb-rcd-x01.cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.82.236.140] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_57C3345230A4F94C9B2F5CFA05D7F2BD1D27DBBExmbrcdx01ciscoc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [87attendees] Gluten free food in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:16:19 -0000 --_000_57C3345230A4F94C9B2F5CFA05D7F2BD1D27DBBExmbrcdx01ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Does anybody know any place serving gluten free food in Berlin? 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Hello,

Does anybody know any place serving gluten free food= in Berlin?

Thanks

Roberta

--_000_57C3345230A4F94C9B2F5CFA05D7F2BD1D27DBBExmbrcdx01ciscoc_-- From bob.hinden@gmail.com Fri Jul 19 14:37:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14A1A11E817C for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:37:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iVb0EBaQ4irT for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ea0-x231.google.com (mail-ea0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4013:c01::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B35B11E8173 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f177.google.com with SMTP id j14so2633015eak.22 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:37:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=HEOhrXIktbh8eXRM2Bx8cFRubnLnPo+vx9EXDaBawMo=; b=vp/Wnae4PleIPeA0MszUVMhw6AopD00Rny/3fRQYCjfYh3a4rWQYD43zDPhaYmG+o3 +RDmyxfW2hLzZbktJpjNqW3Zao+YvwSHUpbRA46t/os2LSWe8u4nTEFoc5t4IGMTMoCO ySKygZd91HroYlGsnLBuGqsI2I11nMI5RKRoNGGEowVJYVXrD/6CFB0qz04mIXpU8S6f QpfrNfFKXnsR39xA2UEl9yJBkBa0roQmulU+5edQHdl2wx7m7cZrbAVqOj9hpGaOpZNT //mDzElzAj0oA28WZsvSorlClGHvcUyQjz88MrObBp1hlJE3y4OtPYtQjV1bmbjZaULf lYvw== X-Received: by 10.15.33.13 with SMTP id b13mr17867460eev.0.1374269856615; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.224.219] ([209.97.127.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r54sm30511887eev.8.2013.07.19.14.37.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <20130719193211.GT23170@cisco.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:37:30 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> <20130719193211.GT23170@cisco.com> To: Toerless Eckert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: Ole Jacobsen , "Mishra, Sanjay" , Bob Hinden , Jan Seedorf , John R Levine , Ted Lemon , "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:37:40 -0000 Toerless, >=20 > Your list is pretty good if you're not interested in artsy stuff = ("Museums"). To me the > one missing must-do Hamburg attraction is this: >=20 > http://www.miniatur-wunderland.com/ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniatur_Wunderland I was there about ten years ago, from looking at the link it really = grown. I agree it's not to be missed if you have any interest in model = trains. Bob From sp@iphh.net Fri Jul 19 14:45:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D32511E818A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:45:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sNfMYVRJgROW for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intranet-mail.server.iphh.net (intranet-mail.iphh.net [IPv6:2001:868:0:180::2:1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD4A311E8173 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2001:868:100:1c:f107:9044:2e69:9900] (port=64206 helo=[IPv6:::1]) by intranet-mail.server.iphh.net with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1V0ITM-0001rQ-Ua; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 23:44:23 +0200 Message-ID: <51E9B32B.5050709@iphh.net> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 23:44:11 +0200 From: "Sascha E. Pollok" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Hinden References: <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B2DE39@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752180DA@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51E80C54.103@gmx.de> <44508D00-9CC1-409F-8CC0-D8B6CAA43547@computer.org> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077521868A@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <2779C9F0771F974CAD742BAE6D9904FE555908B2@DAPHNIS.office.hd> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77D92844@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> <20130719193211.GT23170@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Toerless Eckert , Ole Jacobsen , "Mishra, Sanjay" , Jan Seedorf , John R Levine , Ted Lemon , "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Saxony attractions X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 21:45:03 -0000 >> Your list is pretty good if you're not interested in artsy stuff ("Museums"). To me the >> one missing must-do Hamburg attraction is this: >> >> http://www.miniatur-wunderland.com/ >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniatur_Wunderland > > I was there about ten years ago, from looking at the link it really grown. I agree it's not to be missed if you have any interest in model trains. It did grow! Most impressive being the miniature airport. You can reserve tickets on the internet to skip the entrance line. From there go for a walk at the port, the old tunnel under the river Elbe next to the Hard Rock Cafe. And don't miss an evening walk at the Reeperbahn - Hamburg's famous redlight and entertainment (shows, restaurants, theatre, bars)-district. In case someone needs Hamburg advice from a local, talk to me. 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I've done it the other way, gate to gate,= in 20 minutes. :-) =0A= =0A= Sent from my Galaxy Nexus=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= -----Original Message-----=0A= From: Michael StJohns =0A= To: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>=0A= Sent: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:35=0A= Subject: [87attendees] Interesting scam=0A= =0A= I'm doing a transfer through Brussels airport on my way from IAD to TXL =0A= and was doing my normal research (e.g. just how much of a pain is it to =0A= get from the inbound to the outbound). I found a pretty nice pamphlet =0A= on the Brussels airport website explaining how to get from B =0A= (non-schengen) to A (schengen) gates. However, that pamplet is hosted =0A= by issuu.com. It displayed the pamphlet as a flash, and after a bit I =0A= figured out how to request a download.=0A= =0A= But the only way you can get a download (and subsequently print) the =0A= pamphlet is to either login via facebook or create an issuu.com =0A= account. At least it was free, but there's yet another site that is =0A= going to be spamming me for years.=0A= =0A= I'm not sure why I should be required to give my contact information to =0A= get a document prepared by the Brussels airport for Brussels =0A= passengers. I'm not quite sure why the airport website didn't just =0A= have a link to a PDF. Seems extremely anti-privacy for the EU marketplace.= =0A= =0A= If anyone else needs transfer information for Brussels from B to A, I'm =0A= happy to send along the PDF.=0A= =0A= Mike=0A= =0A= _______________________________________________=0A= 87attendees mailing list=0A= 87attendees@ietf.org=0A= https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees=0A= =0A= From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Fri Jul 19 16:08:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0767E11E819B for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:08:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.234 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.234 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.365, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Pdh+xr9lh6Bz for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B742721F9E3C for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:08:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1374275285; x=1405811285; h=message-id:x-mailer:date:to:from:subject:content-type; bh=FEdBlqCKmP6imAx5t78yrQf7dlQqg42OVCMCOZ2FCnY=; b=KoF6NrURxNFlq1rBj1HESgp19PoR/fA9FUwgh5KAm08Fu4uqKGlc5B7m CFjANplsuxcvovMFuHcvNpKmqahuBKti1JFfeBelGpIGiHh1f1jIsYSoX YMcNuwDA5oQv25o2ovVxKfKGFZIITYZpgkRqQh56oFGcUVO8VDw4QlkAO M=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,705,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="63786934" Received: from ironmsg02-r.qualcomm.com ([172.30.46.16]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 16:08:04 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,705,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="79374708" Received: from warlock.qualcomm.com ([129.46.50.49]) by ironmsg02-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 19 Jul 2013 16:08:04 -0700 Received: from Ironmsg03-R.qualcomm.com (ironmsg03-R.qualcomm.com [172.30.46.17]) by warlock.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id r6JN81uH010834 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:08:03 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,704,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="517286704" Received: from unknown (HELO [99.111.97.136]) ([10.64.208.252]) by Ironmsg03-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2013 16:07:59 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:07:58 -0700 To: 87attendees@ietf.org From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Subject: [87attendees] anyone need a hotel room? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 23:08:11 -0000 If so let me know. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Cigarette: A fire at one end, a fool at the other, and a bit of tobacco in between. 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[64.47.153.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z14sm21774123pbt.0.2013.07.19.16.08.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51E9C6F6.3010608@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:08:38 -0700 From: joel jaeggli User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/23.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Roberta Maglione (robmgl)" , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> References: <57C3345230A4F94C9B2F5CFA05D7F2BD1D27DBBE@xmb-rcd-x01.cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <57C3345230A4F94C9B2F5CFA05D7F2BD1D27DBBE@xmb-rcd-x01.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [87attendees] Gluten free food in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 23:08:48 -0000 On 7/19/13 2:16 PM, Roberta Maglione (robmgl) wrote: > Hello, > > Does anybody know any place serving gluten free food in Berlin? http://glutenfreiberlin.wordpress.com/ is basically the first thing that comes up in google. and it looks like a good jumping off place. > Thanks > > Roberta > > > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > From randy@psg.com Fri Jul 19 16:25:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0140621F9AAE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.575 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.575 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.024, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TNRu2MurFyoo for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (unknown [IPv6:2001:418:8006::19]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868D011E8190 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1V0K2s-0004sZ-Uz; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 23:25:07 +0000 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 16:25:06 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: Michael StJohns In-Reply-To: <51E9A2FA.8020104@nthpermutation.com> References: <51E9A2FA.8020104@nthpermutation.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Interesting scam X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 23:25:16 -0000 > If anyone else needs transfer information for Brussels from B to A, I'm > happy to send along the PDF. they do not ask you to register to read the signs and it is all just to force you to go by the chocolate shops randy From vinayakh@gmail.com Fri Jul 19 22:32:28 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF93511E81DD for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:32:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.766 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.766 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.833, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Eg7nHUpygKWH for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x22c.google.com (mail-pd0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22c]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9720211E81E2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id z10so4954882pdj.31 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:32:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kG6M0fliaeOnwlg5MOtJ7Z/YIOejjamNFkyNgGCwf0w=; b=fD3veSusP6XziZcZrNmrfU4USKkhwTffNXIqVIeKePmwJaSTZ3oUIMw/mJ4NldxDG5 hQ9jU2MKoeI0pMZFpDwWJxfOLIVGV8442o7ceAvCdxV+rxufjSTy5pAzLbWAd/UGOzHj tS7vzRyAm9AH1relUBZgy/z3gMQ2AdHGUQ9XiitXCRJNypw89i3WCCA0W6R45Xq3oodm RQ4GPRnP0ywneQfjDmRmuT2lDD9qKjg4r/kTx4lXWmckZ8EPv8prg2yeZRGCgzJzOnoA IovHjmwtn0YElR12Ky6xxxAyfJ8WsMNDsck19GU+UgjqBTnla5F4LGSnpdS0GjNRigdX uVpQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.67.3.99 with SMTP id bv3mr21645669pad.140.1374298339209; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.85.167 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:32:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51E9A2A5.8080103@cisco.com> References: <20130708175059.GT17405@cisco.com> <20130713232229.GQ17405@cisco.com> <20130719160138.GA2435@cisco.com> <51E9A2A5.8080103@cisco.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:02:19 +0530 Message-ID: From: Vinayak Hegde To: Paul Aitken Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b15fbc952f81804e1eac410 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, "eckert@cisco.com" Subject: Re: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building ! X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:32:28 -0000 --047d7b15fbc952f81804e1eac410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Paul, Most security measures are actually just security theatre[1] meant to make you feel safe. -- Vinayak 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Paul Aitken wrote: > Toerless, > > > If you are interested, PM me with your full name and birthdate (as in >> your passport). >> This is for security at the building. It's the parliamentary building of >> Germany, so there is the usual airport style security. >> > > How does that work? I PM you details from my fake ID, then on the day they > check those details against the fake ID... ? > > Or is there a no-fly, no-Reichstag-entry list, against which they'll check > our supposedly unique (name + DoB) details? > > :-) > > > ______________________________**_________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/87attendees > --047d7b15fbc952f81804e1eac410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Paul,

Most security measures are actually just security theatre[1= ] meant to make you feel safe.

-- Vinayak
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security= _theater

On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Paul Aitken= <paitken@cisco.com> wrote:


If you are interested, PM me with your full name and birthdate (as in your = passport).
This is for security at the building. It's the parliamentary building o= f Germany, so there is the usual airport style security.

How does that work? I PM you details from my fake ID, then on the day they = check those details against the fake ID... ?

Or is there a no-fly, no-Reichstag-entry list, against which they'll ch= eck our supposedly unique (name + DoB) details?

=A0 =A0 :-)


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--047d7b15fbc952f81804e1eac410-- From N.Leymann@telekom.de Sat Jul 20 05:04:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1608E21F9F85 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:04:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.958 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.958 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.124, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2CIGjm0qi7Jl for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcmail23.telekom.de (tcmail23.telekom.de [80.149.113.243]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97E321F9EB8 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from he113415.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.65.81]) by tcmail21.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 20 Jul 2013 14:04:48 +0200 Received: from HE113558.emea1.cds.t-internal.com (10.125.65.100) by HE113415.emea1.cds.t-internal.com (10.125.65.81) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.3.298.1; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:04:47 +0200 Received: from HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.90.96]) by HE113558.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([::1]) with mapi; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:04:47 +0200 From: To: <87attendees@ietf.org> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:04:45 +0200 Thread-Topic: Shopping, Fashion and Gifts in Berlin Thread-Index: Ac6FQVNQf61TzbLcRN+arXEkSoTWIw== Message-ID: <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD59EEEEE@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Accept-Language: de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD59EEEEEHE111543eme_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [87attendees] Shopping, Fashion and Gifts in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:04:55 -0000 --_000_9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD59EEEEEHE111543eme_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Here are some shopping recommendations you might find helpful (note: most o= f the shops are closed on sundays): Electronics: - Conrad Electronics is in walking distance from the hotel (5-10 Minutes): http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/ChainstoreInfo.html?detail&chainstorecode=3DCS= _DE_B_Schoeneberg Large Electronic Shops are also located at Alexanderplatz: "Saturn" and "= Mediamarkt". Take the underground from Zoo to Alexanderplatz (15 Minutes). Mediamarkt and Satur= n are more focussed on consumer electronics, Conrad has also a large selection of electronic = components (if you need a transistor or resistor in case you broke your laptop ;) - Mediamarkt can be found in the "Alexa Shopping Mall": http://www.mediamarkt.de/mcs/market/Media-Markt-Berlin-Mitte,68362,-3.h= tml - Saturn @ Alexanderplatz: http://www.saturn.de/mcs/market/Saturn-Berlin-Alexanderplatz,17261,-3.h= tml - There is also an Apple Store at Kurf=FCrstendamm (walking distance or B= us): http://www.apple.com/de/retail/kurfuerstendamm/ Please note that Alexanderplatz is quite a large Underground and S-Bahn sto= p with many different exits. If you want to go shopping in Berlin and if you are looking for things and = fashion which are typical for the city, my recommendation is that you simply walk up (and down) Kastanienallee with= a side trip to Oderbergerstrasse (U-Bahn Stop "Eberswalderstrasse"). There are plenty of s= hops with Berlin Fashion and small gifts: - Luxus International: http://www.360berlin.net/luxus-international - Who Killed Bambi http://www.360berlin.net/who-killed-bambi - Uhranus: http://www.360berlin.net/uhranus - Recyling Deluxe http://www.360berlin.net/recycling-deluxe - Makers Market (Outdoor, Sundays and check website) http://makersmarket.de and many more. There also many shops around Hackescher Markt (take the "S-B= ahn" from Zoo); and don't forget to visit Hackesche H=F6fe. Major attractions usually have = also gift shops scattered around the attraction. KaDeWe ("Kaufhaus des Westens") is the largest department store in continen= tal Europe and in walking distance. They have a very large Gourmet Floor which is really wort= h a visit: http://www.kadewe.de/en/home_english/ have fun Nic --_000_9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD59EEEEEHE111543eme_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
Here are some shopping recommendations you might find helpful (note: m= ost of the shops are closed
on sundays):
 
Electronics:
- Conrad Electronics is in walking distance from the hotel (5-10 Minut= es):
 
  Large Electronic Shops are also located at Alexanderplatz: &quo= t;Saturn" and "Mediamarkt". Take the
  underground from Zoo to Alexanderplatz (15 Minutes). Mediamarkt= and Saturn are more focussed
  on consumer electronics, Conrad has also a large selection of e= lectronic components (if you need a
  transistor or resistor in case you broke your laptop ;)
 
  - Mediamarkt can be found in the "Alexa Shopping Mall"= ;:
 
  - Saturn @ Alexanderplatz:
 
  - There is also an Apple Store at Kurf=FCrstendamm (walking dis= tance or Bus):
 
Please note that Alexanderplatz is quite a large Underground and S-Bah= n stop with many different exits.
 
If you want to go shopping in Berlin and if you are looking for things= and fashion which are typical for the city,
my recommendation is that you simply walk up (and down) Kastanienallee= with a side trip to
Oderbergerstrasse (U-Bahn Stop "Eberswalderstrasse"). There = are plenty of shops with Berlin Fashion and
small gifts:
 
  - Luxus International:
 
  - Who Killed Bambi
 
  - Uhranus:
 
  - Recyling Deluxe
 
  - Makers Market (Outdoor, Sundays and check website)
 
and many more. There also many shops around Hackescher Markt (take the= "S-Bahn" from Zoo);
and don't forget to visit Hackesche H=F6fe. Major attractions usually = have also gift shops scattered
around the attraction.
 
KaDeWe ("Kaufhaus des Westens") is the largest department st= ore in continental Europe and in
walking distance. They have a very large Gourmet Floor which is really= worth a visit:
 
  have fun
 
      Nic
 
 
 --_000_9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD59EEEEEHE111543eme_-- From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Sat Jul 20 05:41:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB8111E8102 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:41:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.483 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.483 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.765, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MbTl6SDFVYlO for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw7.ericsson.se (mailgw7.ericsson.se [193.180.251.48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D20221F9FDE for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:41:04 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-b7ef76d000004bbc-0f-51ea855e6984 Received: from ESESSHC018.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw7.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B5.CE.19388.E558AE15; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:41:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.45]) by ESESSHC018.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.72]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:41:01 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: "N.Leymann@telekom.de" , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Shopping, Fashion and Gifts in Berlin Thread-Index: Ac6FQVNQf61TzbLcRN+arXEkSoTWIwABItIA Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:41:01 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA47@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD59EEEEE@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> In-Reply-To: <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AD59EEEEE@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: fi-FI X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.148] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA47ESESSMB209erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrGLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+JvrW5c66tAgyXvFSweNu1ks5i0cAqT A5PHkiU/mTzaXioEMEVx2aSk5mSWpRbp2yVwZVy7u4ul4GR+Rd/GWywNjC8Suxg5OCQETCR+ nw7tYuQEMsUkLtxbz9bFyMUhJHCYUWLzl49MEM5iRomexQuZQBrYBCwkuv9pgzSICCRJLL96 jxnEFhYwklj59AQTRNxY4tvWi+wQtpHE3MbLYHEWAVWJ9afXsYDYvAK+EsturAKLCwnESPzt XscIYnMKxEpM3tcIVsMIdND3U2vAapgFxCU+HLzODHGogMSSPeehbFGJl4//sULYShKNS56w QtTnS9xe+IANYpegxMmZT1gmMIrMQjJqFpKyWUjKIOJ6EjemTmGDsLUlli18DVWvKzHj3yEW ZPEFjOyrGNlzEzNz0svNNzEC4+bglt8GOxg33Rc7xCjNwaIkzrtZ70ygkEB6YklqdmpqQWpR fFFpTmrxIUYmDk6pBsawL+9n2tTtl7LZHrdYLuTcv+BbP/ZsMwth62msWvfiXmn3jsP77rsy mdW8bXrqb3yc6cSX3vtlj3072J63yCh9Ec4KyCk8xPb8XtvaSydXObIrXvty7eDkXddDNr5t +vCkNVP4YdfxjhfvHxb/EmlVsf9jaahjf+BaxccIlSkNc3ns2eV/9fkpsRRnJBpqMRcVJwIA TH9nDmkCAAA= Subject: Re: [87attendees] Shopping, Fashion and Gifts in Berlin X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:41:10 -0000 --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA47ESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, At Potsdamer Platz is the Sony Center, where you can find a Sony Store, oth= er shops, restaurants and entertainment venues - and a Lego Discovery Cente= r, in case you bring kids. http://www.sonycenter.de/en Regards, Christer L=E4hett=E4j=E4: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@i= etf.org] Puolesta N.Leymann@telekom.de L=E4hetetty: 20. hein=E4kuuta 2013 15:05 Vastaanottaja: 87attendees@ietf.org Aihe: [87attendees] Shopping, Fashion and Gifts in Berlin Hi, Here are some shopping recommendations you might find helpful (note: most o= f the shops are closed on sundays): Electronics: - Conrad Electronics is in walking distance from the hotel (5-10 Minutes): http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/ChainstoreInfo.html?detail&chainstorecode=3DCS= _DE_B_Schoeneberg Large Electronic Shops are also located at Alexanderplatz: "Saturn" and "= Mediamarkt". Take the underground from Zoo to Alexanderplatz (15 Minutes). Mediamarkt and Satur= n are more focussed on consumer electronics, Conrad has also a large selection of electronic = components (if you need a transistor or resistor in case you broke your laptop ;) - Mediamarkt can be found in the "Alexa Shopping Mall": http://www.mediamarkt.de/mcs/market/Media-Markt-Berlin-Mitte,68362,-3.h= tml - Saturn @ Alexanderplatz: http://www.saturn.de/mcs/market/Saturn-Berlin-Alexanderplatz,17261,-3.h= tml - There is also an Apple Store at Kurf=FCrstendamm (walking distance or B= us): http://www.apple.com/de/retail/kurfuerstendamm/ Please note that Alexanderplatz is quite a large Underground and S-Bahn sto= p with many different exits. If you want to go shopping in Berlin and if you are looking for things and = fashion which are typical for the city, my recommendation is that you simply walk up (and down) Kastanienallee with= a side trip to Oderbergerstrasse (U-Bahn Stop "Eberswalderstrasse"). There are plenty of s= hops with Berlin Fashion and small gifts: - Luxus International: http://www.360berlin.net/luxus-international - Who Killed Bambi http://www.360berlin.net/who-killed-bambi - Uhranus: http://www.360berlin.net/uhranus - Recyling Deluxe http://www.360berlin.net/recycling-deluxe - Makers Market (Outdoor, Sundays and check website) http://makersmarket.de and many more. There also many shops around Hackescher Markt (take the "S-B= ahn" from Zoo); and don't forget to visit Hackesche H=F6fe. Major attractions usually have = also gift shops scattered around the attraction. KaDeWe ("Kaufhaus des Westens") is the largest department store in continen= tal Europe and in walking distance. They have a very large Gourmet Floor which is really wort= h a visit: http://www.kadewe.de/en/home_english/ have fun Nic --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA47ESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

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At Potsdamer Platz is the Sony Center, where you can find a Sony= Store, other shops, restaurants and entertainment venues - and a Lego Disc= overy Center, in case you bring kids.

 = ;

http://www= .sonycenter.de/en

 = ;

Regards,

 = ;

Christer

 = ;

L=E4hett=E4j=E4: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] Puolesta N.Leymann@telekom.de
L=E4hetetty: 20. hein=E4kuuta 2013 15:05
Vastaanottaja: 87attendees@ietf.org
Aihe: [87attendees] Shopping, Fashion and Gifts in Berlin=

 

Hi,

 

Here are some shopping recommendations you might fin= d helpful (note: most of the shops are closed

on sundays):

 

Electronics:

- Conrad Electronics is in walking distance from the= hotel (5-10 Minutes):

 

  Large Electronic Shops are also located at Al= exanderplatz: "Saturn" and "Mediamarkt". Take the

  underground from Zoo to Alexanderplatz (15 Mi= nutes). Mediamarkt and Saturn are more focussed

  on consumer electronics, Conrad has also a la= rge selection of electronic components (if you need a

  transistor or resistor in case you broke your= laptop ;)

 

  - Mediamarkt can be found in the "Alexa = Shopping Mall":

 

  - Saturn @ Alexanderplatz:

 

  - There is also an Apple Store at Kurf=FCrste= ndamm (walking distance or Bus):

 

Please note that Alexanderplatz is quite a large Und= erground and S-Bahn stop with many different exits.

 

If you want to go shopping in Berlin and if you are = looking for things and fashion which are typical for the city,

my recommendation is that you simply walk up (and do= wn) Kastanienallee with a side trip to

Oderbergerstrasse (U-Bahn Stop "Eberswalderstra= sse"). There are plenty of shops with Berlin Fashion and

small gifts:

 

  - Luxus International:

 

  - Who Killed Bambi

 

  - Uhranus:

 

  - Recyling Deluxe

 

  - Makers Market (Outdoor, Sundays and check w= ebsite)

 

and many more. There also many shops around Hackesch= er Markt (take the "S-Bahn" from Zoo);

and don't forget to visit Hackesche H=F6fe. Major at= tractions usually have also gift shops scattered

around the attraction.

 

KaDeWe ("Kaufhaus des Westens") is the lar= gest department store in continental Europe and in

walking distance. They have a very large Gourmet Flo= or which is really worth a visit:

 

  have fun

 

      Nic

 

 

--_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA47ESESSMB209erics_-- From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Sat Jul 20 05:53:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7F221F994C for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:53:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.519 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.519 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.729, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GZLE+CCTU9Rp for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw1.ericsson.se (mailgw1.ericsson.se [193.180.251.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F4B21F96A7 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 05:53:41 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-b7f586d000001a55-b1-51ea885449e5 Received: from ESESSHC016.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw1.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 95.1D.06741.4588AE15; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:53:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.45]) by ESESSHC016.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.66]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:53:40 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Stasi and DDR Thread-Index: Ac6FR5NM6h6agGHIQiy7T+d+9LRAGg== Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:53:39 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA7A@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: fi-FI X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.148] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA7AESESSMB209erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrKLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+JvrW5Ix6tAg4v/TSweNu1kc2D0WLLk J1MAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxq4F/9kLfilWzD54jrmBcZZcFyMnh4SAicS5w8cYIWwxiQv3 1rN1MXJxCAkcZpS4P282O4SzmFGipXkZcxcjBwebgIVE9z9tkAYRAUOJU22P2EFsYaDm7rOT WCHi0hLr/n9lAykXEdCT2L7cCCTMIqAqcWHOQ7BdvAK+ErtebgNrZQRq/X5qDROIzSwgLvHh 4HVmiHsEJJbsOQ9li0q8fPyPFcJWkmhc8oQVoj5fov3ETjaImYISJ2c+YZnAKDQLyahZSMpm ISmDiOtILNj9iQ3C1pZYtvA1M4x95sBjJmTxBYzsqxjZcxMzc9LLDTcxAoP+4JbfujsYT50T OcQozcGiJM67Se9MoJBAemJJanZqakFqUXxRaU5q8SFGJg5OqQbGtAWi7IffldxUWdfOUh/P 8cX89aIrblvt3/KstVX07jn5Z3XJtZTrTe3qTh251/LW7XmlX/ld3T/C+PRlDZ0bjO3Wuce5 7yodXSUTPOOsnlJItNSRzm1n6kR+vpqn9S7+H2fMa8FGtX2zxfrqcwtuG7t0CmQ9mOv49013 jqeH6Tqu0K/Tkv4qsRRnJBpqMRcVJwIAT1dPlUgCAAA= Subject: [87attendees] Stasi and DDR X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:53:47 -0000 --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA7AESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, If you want to experience some cold war nostalgia, you may want to visit th= e Stasi Museum, located in the former HQ of the east german secret police. = This shows how the police figured out what people are doing and thinking - = before people started to distribute that information themselves on Facebook= :) http://www.stasimuseum.de/en/enindex.htm In addition there is the DDR Museum, where you can get a glimpse of how lif= e was in East Germany. http://www.ddr-museum.de/en/ Regards, Christer --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA7AESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

If you want to experience some = cold war nostalgia, you may want to visit the Stasi Museum, located in the former HQ of the east german secret pol= ice. This shows how the police figured out what people are doing and thinki= ng - before people started to distribute that information themselves on Fac= ebook :)

 

http://www.stasimuseum.de/en/enindex.htm

 

 

In addition there is the DDR= Museum, where you can get a glimpse of how life was in East Germany.

 

http://www.ddr-museum.de/en/

 

 

Regards,

 

Christer

 

--_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA7AESESSMB209erics_-- From vinayakh@gmail.com Sat Jul 20 06:38:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5575F21F93F3 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:38:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.183 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.183 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.417, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RBQMZck32qSJ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-x22b.google.com (mail-pa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22b]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75ECF21F8C65 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id hz11so5399221pad.30 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:38:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dvZi49fy9JwFESlDDPpv3yhQaDL9OpyVoE1Juh1Tg+k=; b=K8Et280Q9YO+P3vsA+4rKEIfG9GQyOrEEPRt6nn3f/gGVsuSD9TR1WcGMIsgCpfx0o BR0nZAUZKoTyzQIhTP217a6p0wZLAK/QstTaLBJ3mGiFuIq91VhVOLy0uTEcrgrpUMKj 3VAaFoIpImdDcmjyBny8U7st6m2BL784zWW1/HlWj8c+eF0aqK9sK5obCB58t4gK6+2u HmtAAcTfh/t3i6GdBXU7ROFlz0u32A+68drGGN0WVby+beovEHX4o/0k3R+3mrE28v8y IiFsgTc1+8rd4Hr6ysNaKWEfQXpFpz99cKjlkT0MqGPWnujLl2/lsrUSJ66TZPpLBaNh U4ww== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.67.3.99 with SMTP id bv3mr23338290pad.140.1374327516746; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.85.167 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:38:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA7A@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA7A@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 19:08:36 +0530 Message-ID: From: Vinayak Hegde To: Christer Holmberg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b15fbc970da6604e1f18f8a Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Stasi and DDR X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:38:38 -0000 --047d7b15fbc970da6604e1f18f8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Christer Holmberg < christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > > Hi,**** > > ** ** > > If you want to experience some cold war nostalgia, you may want to visit > the *Stasi Museum*, located in the former HQ of the east german secret > police. This shows how the police figured out what people are doing and > thinking - before people started to distribute that information themselves > on Facebook :)**** > > http://www.stasimuseum.de/en/enindex.htm**** > > ** ** > > In addition there is the *DDR Museum*, where you can get a glimpse of how > life was in East Germany.**** > > http://www.ddr-museum.de/en/ > There is a really good (and depressing) movie on this called "Das Leben Der Anderen" (The Lives of Others)[1][2] which won the Oscars in 2006 for the Best Foreign Language Film. -- Vinayak 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others 2. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/ --047d7b15fbc970da6604e1f18f8a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Christer Holmbe= rg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Hi,

=A0

If you want to experience some = cold war nostalgia, you may want to visit the Stasi Museum, located in the former HQ of the east german secret pol= ice. This shows how the police figured out what people are doing and thinki= ng - before people started to distribute that information themselves on Fac= ebook :)

http://www.stasimuseum.de/en/eninde= x.htm

=A0

In addition there is the DDR= Museum, where you can get a glimpse of how life was in East Germany.

http://www.ddr-museum.de/en/


There is a really good (and depressing) movie= on this called "Das Leben Der Anderen" (The Lives of Others)[1][= 2] which won the Oscars in 2006 for the Best Foreign Language Film.

-- Vinayak
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others
2. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt04050= 94/

--047d7b15fbc970da6604e1f18f8a-- From christer.holmberg@ericsson.com Sat Jul 20 06:44:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2583921F995F for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.552 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.552 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.696, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vll1EXhsVHoX for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw2.ericsson.se (mailgw2.ericsson.se [193.180.251.37]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 117C321E804D for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 06:44:20 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-b7f826d000001766-a9-51ea94332b44 Received: from ESESSHC018.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.125]) by mailgw2.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B8.38.05990.3349AE15; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:44:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.45]) by ESESSHC018.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.72]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:44:19 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: Vinayak Hegde Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Stasi and DDR Thread-Index: Ac6FR5NM6h6agGHIQiy7T+d+9LRAGv//7DAA///dJhA= Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:44:18 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DCB48@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DBA7A@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: fi-FI X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.148] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DCB48ESESSMB209erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrCLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvra7xlFeBBr9WG1g8bNrJZjF783Vm ByaPnbPusnssWfKTKYApissmJTUnsyy1SN8ugSvj0Od1bAXfLCr6rixla2D8YNTFyMkhIWAi MeH6EzYIW0ziwr31QDYXh5DAYUaJh/2rmSCcxYwSXxqPsnYxcnCwCVhIdP/TBmkQEVCTuL51 J1iYWcBQYn2HO0hYWEBD4ujsZcwQJZoS0y/cZoKwrSSuzZsOFmcRUJXYuLeBEcTmFfCVWLp0 AtTeKYwSm+e/BktwCgRKHOvdyQ5iMwId9/3UGrBBzALiEh8OXmeGOFpAYsme81C2qMTLx/9Y IWwlicYlT1gh6vMlrjetY4NYJihxcuYTlgmMorOQjJqFpGwWkjKIuJ7EjalT2CBsbYllC19D 1etKzPh3iAVZfAEj+ypG9tzEzJz0cqNNjMCYOrjlt+oOxjvnRA4xSnOwKInzbtY7EygkkJ5Y kpqdmlqQWhRfVJqTWnyIkYmDU6qB0alu74LwKVJ/VRqj2Sa6BzIqPA8Xmv7Dx72t3po5ddHd DX3x+j+Ouv/b9mT1GjvRSburYjd/t1OY7/KxSvG25avPWupJAcxN69yvcMwIkDj5/uw2k7/r L2yTOJ8iOK+h48H7lb/SF8vqfv/Kcb/theILxuiOVums7Qy1T+Z4X11VuKXc2MVuixJLcUai oRZzUXEiAI1u77R3AgAA Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Stasi and DDR X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 13:44:26 -0000 --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DCB48ESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Das Leben Der Anderen" is a very good movie. Regards, Christer L=E4hett=E4j=E4: Vinayak Hegde [mailto:vinayakh@gmail.com] L=E4hetetty: 20. hein=E4kuuta 2013 16:39 Vastaanottaja: Christer Holmberg Kopio: 87attendees@ietf.org Aihe: Re: [87attendees] Stasi and DDR On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Christer Holmberg > wrote: Hi, If you want to experience some cold war nostalgia, you may want to visit th= e Stasi Museum, located in the former HQ of the east german secret police. = This shows how the police figured out what people are doing and thinking - = before people started to distribute that information themselves on Facebook= :) http://www.stasimuseum.de/en/enindex.htm In addition there is the DDR Museum, where you can get a glimpse of how lif= e was in East Germany. http://www.ddr-museum.de/en/ There is a really good (and depressing) movie on this called "Das Leben Der= Anderen" (The Lives of Others)[1][2] which won the Oscars in 2006 for the = Best Foreign Language Film. -- Vinayak 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others 2. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0405094/ --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1C3DCB48ESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

”Das= Leben Der Anderen” is a very good movie.

 = ;

Regards,

 = ;

Christer

 = ;

 = ;

L=E4hett=E4j=E4: Vinayak Hegde [mailto:vinayakh@gmail.com]
L=E4hetetty: 20. hein=E4kuuta 2013 16:39
Vastaanottaja: Christer Holmberg
Kopio: 87attendees@ietf.org
Aihe: Re: [87attendees] Stasi and DDR

 

On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Christer Holmberg &= lt;chri= ster.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

 

Hi,

 

If you want to experience some cold war nosta= lgia, you may want to visit the Stasi Museum, located in the former HQ of the east german secret pol= ice. This shows how the police figured out what people are doing and thinki= ng - before people started to distribute that information themselves on Fac= ebook :)

http://www.stasimuseum.de/en/enindex.htm

 

In addition there is the DDR Museum, where you can get a glimpse of how life was in East Germ= any.

http://www.ddr-museum.de/en/


There is a really good (and depressing) movie on this called "Das Lebe= n Der Anderen" (The Lives of Others)[1][2] which won the Oscars in 200= 6 for the Best Foreign Language Film.

-- Vinayak
1. http://en.w= ikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others
2. http://www.imdb.com/tit= le/tt0405094/

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If you have extra = one(s), please let me know. Thanks! Best wishes! Qi Sun On 2013-7-19, at =E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=8812:05, Lucy yong wrote: > Social event ticket is already sold out. If you buy more than you = need, please let me know. > =20 > Lucy > =20 > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Rauschenbach, Uwe = (NSN - DE/Munich) > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:00 AM > To: 87attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... > =20 > Are you into =E2=80=A6 > =20 > =E2=80=A6 arts? > =20 > http://www.lenbachhaus.de/ > -> Impressive Blue Rider collection (website seems to be in German = only) > =20 > http://www.pinakothek.de/en/home > -> The Munich =E2=80=9CPinakothek=E2=80=9D museums =E2=80=93 there are = three of them, covering different epochs of painting. > The =E2=80=9CPinakothek der Moderne=E2=80=9D which is the contemporary = one is unfortunately closed due to construction. > Note that Sunday admission is 1 EUR only, otherwise 10 EUR. > =20 > =20 > =E2=80=A6 cars and motorbikes? > =20 > http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/ =20 > You may have a guided tour of the factory, if you are lucky to get a = ticket (advance reservation needed) > http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/visitor_information/guided_tours/plant.html > =20 > =20 > =20 > =E2=80=A6 mountains? > =20 > Zugspitze is definitely recommended, as Monika writes below. > The cog wheel train spends long time in tunnels and travelling through = forest, IMHO it=E2=80=99s more scenic to take the cable car both ways. > There=E2=80=99s also an impressive Gorge in that area: = http://www.partnachklamm.eu/flyer/eng-flyer-inet.pdf =20 > =20 > =20 > Kind regards, > Uwe > =20 > =20 > =20 > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org = [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext M.Ermert > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:40 PM > To: 87attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Bavarian attractions... > =20 > Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted Lemon: > On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" wrote: > - What would you recommend as the best/important things to do and = visit in Bavaria? > =20 > Kloster Andechs? Scenic _and_ they have beer. Obviously = Neuschwanstein. Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be scared = shitless by rickety platforms high above the city. And you _must_ go = to the Deutsches Museum in Munich. >=20 >=20 > To be on "top" ;-) >=20 > http://www.zugspitze.de/en/summer/berg/zugspitze/zugspitze.htm >=20 > Take a roundtrip with cogwheeltrain and cable cars!=20 >=20 > And have some coffee, cake and cream down in Garmisch. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > =20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --Apple-Mail-144-885628024 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Hi all,

Late registration led to = missing social tickets. If you have extra one(s), please let me know. = Thanks!

Best wishes!
Qi = Sun

On 2013-7-19, at =E4=B8=8A=E5=8D=8812:05, Lucy yong = wrote:

Social event ticket is = already sold out. If you buy more than you need, please let me = know.
 
 
http://www.bmw-welt.com/en/  
You may have = a guided tour of the factory, if you are lucky to get a ticket (advance = reservation needed)
There=E2=80=99s also an impressive Gorge in = that area:   
 
Kind regards,
Uwe
 
 
 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@i= etf.org] On Behalf = Of ext = M.Ermert
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 = 5:40 PM
To:  Re: [87attendees] Bavarian = attractions...
 
Am 18.07.2013 17:19, schrieb Ted = Lemon:
On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "SAYKO, =
ROBERT J" <rs1983@att.com> =
wrote:
- What would you recommend as the =
best/important things to do and visit in =
Bavaria?
Kloster Andechs?   =
Scenic _and_ they have beer.   Obviously Neuschwanstein.  =
Der alte Peter in Munich, if you like to be scared shitless by rickety =
platforms high above the city.   And you _must_ go to the =
Deutsches Museum in Munich.



To be on "top" = ;-)

 

And have some = coffee, cake and cream down in = Garmisch.



 
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Here's my suggestion:

let's put two bits of paper on the bulletin board by registration. People t=
hat have them and are willing to sell (at cost) put their names on one; peo=
ple that want to buy (at cost) put their names on the other. Should a ticke=
t change hands, both remove their names, or one removes both names.=

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On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Fred Baker (fred)  wrote:

> Here's my suggestion:
>
> let's put two bits of paper on the bulletin board by registration. People
> that have them and are willing to sell (at cost) put their names on one;
> people that want to buy (at cost) put their names on the other. Should a
> ticket change hands, both remove their names, or one removes both names.
>

A much better way to do this is do this on the wiki. Create a Wiki page and
link it on the main page.
The IETF 87 meeting is here. Username is your email address and password is
10 digit confirmation number.
http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf87

Also request people (especially those from the host country - Germany) to
update the various sections on the wiki. Many of the questions on the wiki
have been answered here already.

-- Vinayak

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On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Fred Baker (fre=
d) <fred@cisco.com> wrote:

Here's my suggestion:



let's put two bits of paper on the bulletin board by registration. Peop=
le that have them and are willing to sell (at cost) put their names on one;=
 people that want to buy (at cost) put their names on the other. Should a t=
icket change hands, both remove their names, or one removes both names.



A much better way to do this is do this on the wiki. =
Create a Wiki page and link it on the main page.
The IETF 87 meeting is =
here. Username is your email address and password is 10 digit confirmation =
number.

http:/=
/www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf87

Also request =
people (especially those from the host country - Germany) to update the var=
ious sections on the wiki. Many of the questions on the wiki have been answ=
ered here already.


-- Vinayak


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> A much better way to do this is do this on the wiki. Create a Wiki page and
> link it on the main page.

Done.  The page is

http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/87socialtickets

Regards,
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According to the meeting wiki, the hotel says to tip 5% to 10% in restaurants, 
which is not surprising.  But it has always been my impression that the price 
includes a service charge, and you don't need to tip, or leave only a nominal 
one of the small change unless the service was unusually good or bad.

Can people who live in Germany say what their experience is?

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Hi John,

Am 20.07.2013 18:09, schrieb John R Levine:
> According to the meeting wiki, the hotel says to tip 5% to 10% in
> restaurants, which is not surprising.  But it has always been my
> impression that the price includes a service charge, and you don't need
> to tip, or leave only a nominal one of the small change unless the
> service was unusually good or bad.
>
> Can people who live in Germany say what their experience is?

Well, the 5%-10% rule came up in the last few years. Commonly you would 
give a "little upgrade" lets say from 47 EUR to 50 EUR. The higher the 
invoice is and the more you are happy with the service it can be higher 
but it is not an obligation. On the other hand if it is 19,80 EUR,
you give 20 EUR and expect the 20 Cents... well, its fine. But I'd 
recomment just leaving the few cents there :)

Long story short: there is no obligation. If you are happy, round-up a 
little bit. But there are no fixed tip-expectations.

Cheers
Sascha



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On 07/20/2013 06:09 PM, John R Levine wrote:
> According to the meeting wiki, the hotel says to tip 5% to 10% in
> restaurants, which is not surprising.  But it has always been my
> impression that the price includes a service charge, and you don't need
> to tip, or leave only a nominal one of the small change unless the
> service was unusually good or bad.
> 
> Can people who live in Germany say what their experience is?

I don't know any German restaurant who take a service charge.
Usually you just round up. Like from 55 to 60EUR or so. So 5-10% fit
pretty well. It's not mandatory, but especially with good service I tip.

-dominik


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On Jul 20, 2013, at 11:09 AM, John R Levine  wrote:

> According to the meeting wiki, the hotel says to tip 5% to 10% in =
restaurants, which is not surprising.  But it has always been my =
impression that the price includes a service charge, and you don't need =
to tip, or leave only a nominal one of the small change unless the =
service was unusually good or bad.
>=20
> Can people who live in Germany say what their experience is?
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In general there is no tipping in German restaurants. In expensive
restaurants, where the meals are very expensive and the service is
extraordinary, a small tip is sometimes offered by patrons.

Hosnieh


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> According to the meeting wiki, the hotel says to tip 5% to 10% in
restaurants,
> which is not surprising.  But it has always been my impression that the
price
> includes a service charge, and you don't need to tip, or leave only a
nominal
> one of the small change unless the service was unusually good or bad.
> 
> Can people who live in Germany say what their experience is?
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    The link below explains pretty well what the
      custom in Germany  is re tipping in restaurants.

      

      If you are satisfied with the service, you typically round up to a
      full Euro amount such that tip falls in the  5-10% range.

      

      

      Dieter (from Germany)

      

    
    
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http://www.lonelyplanet.com/germany/berlin/practical-information/money-costs

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According to the meeting wiki, the hotel says to tip 5% to 10% in restaurants, which is not surprising.  But it has always been my impression that the price includes a service charge, and you don't need to tip, or leave only a nominal one of the small change unless the service was unusually good or bad.

Can people who live in Germany say what their experience is?

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When paying by credit card, is it acceptable to include the tip on 
the charge, or should it be handed directly to a server in cash even 
when paying by card?

On a related question, do credit card charge slips offer a place to 
write in a tip amount?

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Hi Randall,

Am 20.07.2013 19:38, schrieb Randall Gellens:

 > When paying by credit card, is it acceptable to include the tip on the
 > charge, or should it be handed directly to a server in cash even when
 > paying by card?

yes, it is fine to put it on the card.

 > On a related question, do credit card charge slips offer a place to
 > write in a tip amount?

Sometimes they do, sometimes they dont. If e.g. the invoice is 18 EUR
just say "20 Euro" when giving the card. Either they put it on the card 
(in most cases) so you sign for 20 EUR or you can add it yourself (less 
likely in my experiences).

Cheers
Sascha


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On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 10:38:03AM -0700, Randall Gellens wrote:
> When paying by credit card, is it acceptable to include the tip on 
> the charge, or should it be handed directly to a server in cash even 
> when paying by card?

I'd say cash is preferrable, but card payment is becoming more
common (esp given the alternative ...).

TMD:  If it goes through the books, taxes are due.

-Peter

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Mind posting this stuff on the Meeting Wiki?

On Jul 20, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Christer Holmberg =
 wrote:

> Hi,
> =20
> At Potsdamer Platz is the Sony Center, where you can find a Sony =
Store, other shops, restaurants and entertainment venues - and a Lego =
Discovery Center, in case you bring kids.
> =20
> http://www.sonycenter.de/en
> =20
> Regards,
> =20
> Christer
> =20
> L=E4hett=E4j=E4: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org =
[mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] Puolesta N.Leymann@telekom.de
> L=E4hetetty: 20. hein=E4kuuta 2013 15:05
> Vastaanottaja: 87attendees@ietf.org
> Aihe: [87attendees] Shopping, Fashion and Gifts in Berlin
> =20
> Hi,
> =20
> Here are some shopping recommendations you might find helpful (note: =
most of the shops are closed
> on sundays):
> =20
> Electronics:
> - Conrad Electronics is in walking distance from the hotel (5-10 =
Minutes):
>   =
http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/ChainstoreInfo.html?detail&chainstorecode=3DCS_=
DE_B_Schoeneberg
> =20
>   Large Electronic Shops are also located at Alexanderplatz: "Saturn" =
and "Mediamarkt". Take the
>   underground from Zoo to Alexanderplatz (15 Minutes). Mediamarkt and =
Saturn are more focussed
>   on consumer electronics, Conrad has also a large selection of =
electronic components (if you need a
>   transistor or resistor in case you broke your laptop ;)
> =20
>   - Mediamarkt can be found in the "Alexa Shopping Mall":
>     =
http://www.mediamarkt.de/mcs/market/Media-Markt-Berlin-Mitte,68362,-3.html=

> =20
>   - Saturn @ Alexanderplatz:
>     =
http://www.saturn.de/mcs/market/Saturn-Berlin-Alexanderplatz,17261,-3.html=

> =20
>   - There is also an Apple Store at Kurf=FCrstendamm (walking distance =
or Bus):
>     http://www.apple.com/de/retail/kurfuerstendamm/
> =20
> Please note that Alexanderplatz is quite a large Underground and =
S-Bahn stop with many different exits.
> =20
> If you want to go shopping in Berlin and if you are looking for things =
and fashion which are typical for the city,
> my recommendation is that you simply walk up (and down) Kastanienallee =
with a side trip to
> Oderbergerstrasse (U-Bahn Stop "Eberswalderstrasse"). There are plenty =
of shops with Berlin Fashion and
> small gifts:
> =20
>   - Luxus International:
>     http://www.360berlin.net/luxus-international
> =20
>   - Who Killed Bambi
>      http://www.360berlin.net/who-killed-bambi
> =20
>   - Uhranus:
>      http://www.360berlin.net/uhranus
> =20
>   - Recyling Deluxe
>     http://www.360berlin.net/recycling-deluxe
> =20
>   - Makers Market (Outdoor, Sundays and check website)
>     http://makersmarket.de
> =20
> and many more. There also many shops around Hackescher Markt (take the =
"S-Bahn" from Zoo);
> and don't forget to visit Hackesche H=F6fe. Major attractions usually =
have also gift shops scattered
> around the attraction.
> =20
> KaDeWe ("Kaufhaus des Westens") is the largest department store in =
continental Europe and in
> walking distance. They have a very large Gourmet Floor which is really =
worth a visit:
> http://www.kadewe.de/en/home_english/
> =20
>   have fun
> =20
>       Nic
> =20
> =20
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Mind posting this stuff on the =
Meeting Wiki?

On Jul 20, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Christer =
Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.=
com> wrote:

 
At Potsdamer Platz is the Sony Center, where =
you can find a Sony Store, other shops, restaurants and entertainment =
venues - and a Lego Discovery Center, in case you bring =
kids.
 
L=E4hett=E4j=E4: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] Puolesta  20. hein=E4kuuta 2013 =
15:05
Vastaanottaja: 87attendees@ietf.org
Aihe: [87attendees] Shopping, =
Fashion and Gifts in Berlin
 
Hi,
Here =
are some shopping recommendations you might find helpful (note: most of =
the shops are closed
on sundays):
 
- =
Conrad Electronics is in walking distance from the hotel (5-10 =
Minutes):
 
  Large Electronic Shops are also located at =
Alexanderplatz: "Saturn" and "Mediamarkt". Take =
the
  =
underground from Zoo to Alexanderplatz (15 Minutes). Mediamarkt and =
Saturn are more focussed
  on consumer electronics, Conrad has also a large =
selection of electronic components (if you need =
a
  =
transistor or resistor in case you broke your laptop =
;)
 
and many more. There also many shops around =
Hackescher Markt (take the "S-Bahn" from =
Zoo);
and don't =
forget to visit Hackesche H=F6fe. Major attractions usually have also =
gift shops scattered
around the attraction.
 
KaDeWe ("Kaufhaus des Westens") is the largest =
department store in continental Europe and =
in
walking =
distance. They have a very large Gourmet Floor which is really worth a =
visit:
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No idea. I have not been at the Reichstag since Christo and never inside the
building. Given how it is the parliamentary building i would expect that the
security checks are very similar to the ones by federal immigration officers
at the airport.

Not sure if this is going to be as much fun as IETF in Vienna where i missed a
subway station and was greeted by a bunch of policement with machine guns on
the next station. Oh, well, at least it had me read up Wiki on the UN headquarters.

Cheers
    Toerless

On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 09:33:41PM +0100, Paul Aitken wrote:
> Toerless,
> 
> >If you are interested, PM me with your full name and birthdate (as in your 
> >passport).
> >This is for security at the building. It's the parliamentary building of 
> >Germany, so there is the usual airport style security.
> 
> How does that work? I PM you details from my fake ID, then on the day 
> they check those details against the fake ID... ?
> 
> Or is there a no-fly, no-Reichstag-entry list, against which they'll 
> check our supposedly unique (name + DoB) details?
> 
>     :-)

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If you have this map, you can easily find the addresses in the second link
and use the Berlin public transportations. 

http://mobil.s-bahn-berlin.de/images/liniennetz-berlin-brandenburg.png 

http://www.fahrinfo-berlin.de/Fahrinfo/bin/   

 

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http://www.fahrinfo-=
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Follow up,

More information for people who would like to use public transportation =
(bus, Ubahn, Sbahn, regional trains). Berlin transportation is =
expensive. To avoid spending extra money on transportations, I just give =
you some hints which is based on my experience living here.
When you buy a ticket for public transportation, be sure that you buy a =
correct ticket. In the map I sent you in last email, there are 3 zones. =
A, B, C with different colors. ABC zones are the most expensive ticket. =
With that ticket you can also visit Potsdam which is a very nice, =
historical city close to Berlin and I recommend you to visit there as =
well. Usually for Berlin, you need to buy AB ticket. This is the same =
for buses. Your ticket is valid for 2 hours since the time you validated =
it (this ticket can be validated in Bus, in sbahn station, in ubahn =
station). It means you can go in one direction as much as you like and =
change among different public transportations such as buses, subway =
trains, etc with one ticket except taxi! But this ticket is not valid =
for returning, even though it is not expired yet.=20

There are some types of tickets. I recommend you to buy 4 pass tickets =
or 8 pass tickets. Then it will be cheaper than 2.40 =E2=82=AC (for AB =
zone). You can also buy the whole day ticket (9 =E2=82=AC). I do not =
recommend this type of ticket unless the 8 pass tickets is not enough =
for your travel during a day.=20

You can rent a bike (about 10 =E2=82=AC per day and will be cheaper if =
you rent it more than a day)  and go around by bike. The streets and =
pedestrians are marked by a red line for bikes. If you ever plan to take =
a train while having a bike. You need to buy a half fare ticket for your =
bike. It is about 1.5 =E2=82=AC.=20

Enjoy your stay in Berlin,
Hosnieh


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I have been there last year. I do not know whether or not they changed
anything. They check your passport , then like the airport pass a security
gate and put your stuff on the x-ray belt. They do not let you go all parts
of the building without your tour guide. The tour guide show you many parts
of the building which is for the time of World War II. It is also a nice
view on the roof. That is a pity that you can go there almost the time it
will be dark... (7:30 PM). Because it is not completely night where you can
see Berlin at night and it is not so dark. Just you cannot take good
pictures.  I was there in the morning. It was a nice view of Berlin. 

Hosnieh

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> No idea. I have not been at the Reichstag since Christo and never inside
the
> building. Given how it is the parliamentary building i would expect that
the
> security checks are very similar to the ones by federal immigration
officers at
> the airport.
> 
> Not sure if this is going to be as much fun as IETF in Vienna where i
missed a
> subway station and was greeted by a bunch of policement with machine guns
> on the next station. Oh, well, at least it had me read up Wiki on the UN
> headquarters.
> 
> Cheers
>     Toerless
> 
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 09:33:41PM +0100, Paul Aitken wrote:
> > Toerless,
> >
> > >If you are interested, PM me with your full name and birthdate (as in
> > >your passport).
> > >This is for security at the building. It's the parliamentary building
> > >of Germany, so there is the usual airport style security.
> >
> > How does that work? I PM you details from my fake ID, then on the day
> > they check those details against the fake ID... ?
> >
> > Or is there a no-fly, no-Reichstag-entry list, against which they'll
> > check our supposedly unique (name + DoB) details?
> >
> >     :-)
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I got more interest now than the tour will accept (they say 25).  I used FCFS.

Here is the list of 25 names that are on the list, and then 5 more for
overflow, in case someone bails out I have sent an email to each one of
the 30 addresses to check if i copied their full names and DoB correctly.
If you did not receive that email, please ping me.

Gabor Sandor Enyedi
Ram Krishnan
Bede McCall
Chao Zhou
Rong Li
Robert Benz
Min-Sik Jun
Violet Wandaho Njuguna
Chae Chung
Sanjay Mishra
Syed Wasif_Hussain
Toerless Tobias Eckert
Avri Doria
Thomas Ludwig Roessler
Dhruv Dhody
Jarrett Lu
Di Wu
Jonathan R Mitchell
Wendy Seltzer
James Gettys
David Harrington
Susan Frenchman
Derek Atkins
Maria Josefa Lopez_Sanchez
Alfredo Pironti

Overflow:

Sam Kappala Aldrin
Sigfrido Eduardo Perdomo
Savina Cavallo
Brian David Campbell
Orit Levin

P.S.: I did not receive DoB from the following, so unfortunately, i can
not include them in the list (had sent email to re-inquire):
Puneet Agarwal, Konstantinos Pentikousis, Vinayak Vithal Hegde


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Thanks, Hosnieh

The tour will not give us day view from the dome because we will first
have the tour at 7:30 for ~ 90 min and then folks are free to go to the dome,
which makes it 9 PM. I hope my DSLR will also make good photos then with
still some dawn light plus city light, but yes, if you're out for best
daylight pictures from the Dome, you'd want to book for some time during the day.

Cheers
    Toerles

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 10:24:09AM +0200, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote:
> I have been there last year. I do not know whether or not they changed
> anything. They check your passport , then like the airport pass a security
> gate and put your stuff on the x-ray belt. They do not let you go all parts
> of the building without your tour guide. The tour guide show you many parts
> of the building which is for the time of World War II. It is also a nice
> view on the roof. That is a pity that you can go there almost the time it
> will be dark... (7:30 PM). Because it is not completely night where you can
> see Berlin at night and it is not so dark. Just you cannot take good
> pictures.  I was there in the morning. It was a nice view of Berlin. 
> 
> Hosnieh
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
> > On Behalf Of eckert@cisco.com
> > Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 8:19 AM
> > To: Paul Aitken
> > Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [87attendees] QUERY: Guided tour through Reichstag building !
> > 
> > No idea. I have not been at the Reichstag since Christo and never inside
> the
> > building. Given how it is the parliamentary building i would expect that
> the
> > security checks are very similar to the ones by federal immigration
> officers at
> > the airport.
> > 
> > Not sure if this is going to be as much fun as IETF in Vienna where i
> missed a
> > subway station and was greeted by a bunch of policement with machine guns
> > on the next station. Oh, well, at least it had me read up Wiki on the UN
> > headquarters.
> > 
> > Cheers
> >     Toerless
> > 
> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 09:33:41PM +0100, Paul Aitken wrote:
> > > Toerless,
> > >
> > > >If you are interested, PM me with your full name and birthdate (as in
> > > >your passport).
> > > >This is for security at the building. It's the parliamentary building
> > > >of Germany, so there is the usual airport style security.
> > >
> > > How does that work? I PM you details from my fake ID, then on the day
> > > they check those details against the fake ID... ?
> > >
> > > Or is there a no-fly, no-Reichstag-entry list, against which they'll
> > > check our supposedly unique (name + DoB) details?
> > >
> > >     :-)
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Wasif

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I think they'd (*) like you to buy the Berlin WelcomeCard:

http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/17179/name/Berlin+WelcomeCard.html

No idea if that wold be a good deal for you. Probably mostly when you 
have time to visit some of the museums and benefit from the discounts included.

I have no idea of public transport in Berlin, but i'd bet:

 - If you only want a single public transport trip, just get one-off tickets.
 - If you want to do more than two trips take a day pass for public transport,
   usually they're cheaper after 9 AM/10AM (to isolate tourists from commuters).

It doesn't look as if there is a city-wide bike-rental system as in other cities like
Paris or Hamburg. Besides, Berlin is fairly large and not very densely built (few
highrise areas), so you're probably better off exploring individual areas by foot 
and use public transport or taxi between them. 

Cheers
   Toerless

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 02:32:34AM -0700, Wasif wrote:
> Hi all,
> What is the best way to move around Berlin or other cities. Any bus/train pass we can buy and use it for a week to move around Berlin.
> 
> Wasif
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Regional trains are cheap and an option to go to other cities. Also buses
are available.

http://www.vbb.de/de/index.html for trains

https://www.berlinlinienbus.de/index.php?lang=en for buses

 

Inside the city you can buy weekly ticket which is valid for a week to go
everywere in Berlin.

Hosnieh

 

 

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Hi all,

What is the best way to move around Berlin or other cities. Any bus/train
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Follow up,

Group ticket is cheaper than single ticket. If you plan to visit other
cities then try to find min 3 or more people and buy a group ticket. This is
true especially for trains. :-)

Hosnieh


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> It doesn't look as if there is a city-wide bike-rental system as in other
cities like
> Paris or Hamburg. Besides, Berlin is fairly large and not very densely
built (few
> highrise areas), so you're probably better off exploring individual areas
by foot
> and use public transport or taxi between them.
> 

For renting a bike, there are some stations. 
http://www.fahrradstation.com/fahrradstation.php/cat/2/title/Stationen
Friedrich Str.
http://www.berlinfahrradverleih.com/ in Zoologischer Garten

Hosnieh




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Hi,


> It doesn't look as if there is a city-wide bike-rental system as in other=
 cities like
> Paris or Hamburg. Besides, Berlin is fairly large and not very densely bu=
ilt (few
> highrise areas), so you're probably better off exploring individual areas=
 by foot
> and use public transport or taxi between them.
In fact, Deutsche Bahn offers a city wide rental system:

http://www.callabike-interaktiv.de/index.php

But I'm not sure how this works for foreign customers from abroad. But you =
should give
it a try. They have stations all around the city where you can pick up a bi=
ke.

  Nic

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 02:32:34AM -0700, Wasif wrote:
> Hi all,
> What is the best way to move around Berlin or other cities. Any bus/train=
 pass we can buy and use it for a week to move around Berlin.
>
> Wasif
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Hi,


> According to the meeting wiki, the hotel says to tip 5% to 10% in restaur=
ants,
> which is not surprising.  But it has always been my impression that the p=
rice
> includes a service charge, and you don't need to tip, or leave only a nom=
inal
> one of the small change unless the service was unusually good or bad.
>
> Can people who live in Germany say what their experience is?
>
My experience is, that the hotel web site is probably correct ;) Usually yo=
u round
up or you give betwenn 5% and 10%. Exceptions are cheap take aways or beerg=
ardens
with self service. If you do not tip, most of the restaurants will assume t=
hat something
was wrong (with either service or food or both) ;)

   regards

     Nic

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On Jul 21, 2013, at 6:12 AM, "Hosnieh Rafiee"  wrote:
> For renting a bike, there are some stations.=20
> http://www.fahrradstation.com/fahrradstation.php/cat/2/title/Stationen
> Friedrich Str.
> http://www.berlinfahrradverleih.com/ in Zoologischer Garten

I wonder if the hotel would let us keep a bike in our rooms.=20

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> The tour will not give us day view from the dome because we will first
> have the tour at 7:30 for ~ 90 min and then folks are free to go to the dome,
> which makes it 9 PM. I hope my DSLR will also make good photos then with
> still some dawn light plus city light, but yes, if you're out for best
> daylight pictures from the Dome, you'd want to book for some time during the 
> day.

Sunset is at 8:58 PM that day, and it doesn't get completely dark until 9:40. 
Better set your DSLR for daylight.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
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> Unfortunately the WelcomeCard is only available in 2, 3, and 5 days,
> whereas you could get an AB transit pass for a 7 day visit for 28€.
> A 1-day AB transit pass is €6,50, which makes sense for > 2 trips (a
> single ticket is €2,40).

Assuming you plan to go places for dinner that are beyond walking 
distance, get the AB weekly pass, which is availabie from the transport 
desk at at the airport.  You may not save any money compared to
short trip/4 trip/group trip, but you won't have to do a non-linear 
optimization problem every time you get on the bus.

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On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 06:14:01AM -0700, Derek Atkins wrote:

> whereas you could get an AB transit pass for a 7 day visit for 28€.
> A 1-day AB transit pass is €6,50, which makes sense for > 2 trips (a
> single ticket is €2,40).

The 7 day pass is transferrable and allows you 'guest(s)' between 8pm and 3am
the following day as well as Sat/Sun.


-Peter

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> I wonder if the hotel would let us keep a bike in our rooms.


Why do you want to keep your bike in your room? You can easily lock it in
front of the hotel. The place where you rent a bike also give you locks and
everything that you need to lock it wherever you like. Of course, the hotel
also might have a safe place to put a bike.

Hosnieh


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On Jul 21, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Hosnieh Rafiee  wrote:
> Why do you want to keep your bike in your room? You can easily lock it in
> front of the hotel. The place where you rent a bike also give you locks a=
nd
> everything that you need to lock it wherever you like. Of course, the hot=
el
> also might have a safe place to put a bike.

So it wouldn't get stolen.   But of course I have no idea how big a problem=
 that is in Berlin=97I'm just remembering all the warnings about bike theft=
 from the Maastricht visit, which was the last time I considered renting a =
bike during IETF.   :}


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Is it allowed to get up to the microphone with the bike?

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On Jul 21, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Hosnieh Rafiee  wrote:
> Why do you want to keep your bike in your room? You can easily lock it=20
> in front of the hotel. The place where you rent a bike also give you=20
> locks and everything that you need to lock it wherever you like. Of=20
> course, the hotel also might have a safe place to put a bike.

So it wouldn't get stolen.   But of course I have no idea how big a problem=
 that is in Berlin-I'm just remembering all the warnings about bike theft f=
rom the Maastricht visit, which was the last time I considered renting a bi=
ke during IETF.   :}

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Maybe not as bad as New York, but i think as a city, Berlin is trying to get
there wrt. to bicycle theft.

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tagesspiegel.de%2Fthemen%2FFahrraddiebstahl

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 02:56:09PM +0000, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Hosnieh Rafiee  wrote:
> > Why do you want to keep your bike in your room? You can easily lock it in
> > front of the hotel. The place where you rent a bike also give you locks and
> > everything that you need to lock it wherever you like. Of course, the hotel
> > also might have a safe place to put a bike.
> 
> So it wouldn't get stolen.   But of course I have no idea how big a problem that is in Berlin?I'm just remembering all the warnings about bike theft from the Maastricht visit, which was the last time I considered renting a bike during IETF.   :}
> 


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> So it wouldn't get stolen.   But of course I have no idea how big a
problem that
> is in Berlin-I'm just remembering all the warnings about bike theft from
the
> Maastricht visit, which was the last time I considered renting a bike
during
> IETF.   :}
> 
This is true that there are a lot of warnings about bike's thefts. Because
thieves in Berlin also really love bicycles but it depends on the place
where you leave your bike as well as how you lock your bike.  Some areas of
Berlin are really safe. The other thing is how you lock your bike. If you
lock it just on the front wheel, they easily steal the rest of  your bike
except the front wheel :-).  Of course, when you rent a bike, it has a kind
of lock that is attached to the body of your bike. The rental bike companies
know how to safe their bike.
In general, Berlin is pretty a safe city. However, there are some areas that
not recommended to go as a tourist. The place of IETF is almost the heart of
Berlin and safe. But you should never leave your bike, without locking it,
even though  you might leave it for a short period of time to buy something.
You can also ask the place where you rent a bike about the circumstances of
a stolen bike. 

I know many people lock their bikes at the train stations (sbahn). I assume
that you can also ask a hotel for a safe place to lock your bike. (you can
send them an email and ask them) I am sure they assist you in this case. So
I am sure, you will not need to take it with you in your room in order to
secure it :-).

Hosnieh



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Hi,

For all of you being interested in the history of computer gaming there is =
the "Computer Gaming Museum" Berlin. They are open from 10:00 - 20:00 but n=
ot on Tuesday (!). They offer public and private tours (details can be foun=
d on their web site, see link below). Next underground stop is "Weberwiese"=
 (U5). Take either S-Bahn or U-Bahn from underground stop "Zoologischer Gar=
ten" to "Alexanderplatz" and change there to U5 (U-Bahn) to Weberwiese. The=
 trip should take about 30 minutes.

http://www.computerspielemuseum.de/1210_Home.htm

   Regards

        Nic



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Hi, 


 


For all of you being interested in the history of computer gaming ther=
e is the "Computer Gaming Museum" Berlin. They are open from 10:0=
0 – 20:00 but not on Tuesday=
 (!). They offer public and private tours (details
can be found on their web site, see link below). Next underground stop is &=
quot;Weberwiese" (U5). Take either S-Bahn or U-Bahn from underground s=
top "Zoologischer Garten" to "Alexanderplatz" and chang=
e there to U5 (U-Bahn) to Weberwiese. The trip should take about
30 minutes.


 



 


   Regards 


 


        Nic


 


 





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Hi Peter,

Thank you for organizing the social event. I believe it would be a great =
one.

However, I failed to grab a ticket before the tickets were sold out. So =
I'm wondering if there are chances that an alternative event could be =
provided by the sponsor.=20

Looking forward to your reply~

Thanks,
Qi Sun


On 2013-7-19, at =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=883:53, Peter Koch wrote:

>> I just noticed that the social event sold out.
>> However, now that I see the following numbers, I find it frustrating:
>=20
> thank you all for your continued interest in the IETF and the social =
event
> in particular.  I'm sorry for everybody who was not able to get a =
ticket,=20
> so let me add some info and basically confirm what other people =
already=20
> correctly explained.
>=20
> Obviously, we don't run our own theme park. That said, we had to do =
scouting
> and had been looking for a promising venue that has a roof (weather =
isn't that
> predictable few weeks out) and a - hopefully - inspiring interior =
underneath.
>=20
> The downside is that this type of venue comes with some strings =
attached,
> one of which is "maximum occupancy". The figures were in line with =
past
> experience, so we booked.  We accept the challenge to meet the =
expectations
> expressed both by the demand on tickets and the helpful feedback on =
this list.
>=20
> Knowing that this might not be a satisfactory response and again with =
apologies,
> i'd call upon everybody's engineering spirit to use the meeting wiki =
for what
> some parts of the industry call a 'secondary market', recognizing that =
this
> is a hack, not a solution, as well as for finding company for Tuesday =
or any
> other day.  Berlin has a lot to offer, even in the vicinity of the =
meeting venue
> and while we'd really like to accomodate everybody, please let us =
accept the
> finiteness of space and resources.
>=20
> Looking forward to a successful IETF meeting - safe travels everyone!
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Hi,

Has anyone tried the archive?

I have not been able to log in with my email address and registration numbe=
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I am able to receive new email, though.

Thanks.

Jeffrey



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Hi all,

 

This is a second video presenting the tutorial of online games traffic. You
will like it for sure:

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAnW9HTkbsI

Berlin, IETF87. THURSDAY August 1st, 10.35 AM. Postdam 1 room,
Intercontinental Hotel
Transport Area Open Meeting (tsvarea)

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/87/agenda/tsvarea/

Some questions we would try to answer:

- How is the traffic generated by online games?
- What protocols do they use?
- What is the average packet size of the traffic of that games?
- How many people play online games in the World?
- What is the effect of delay and packet loss on online games?
- Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? How?

During the session we will not only talk, but we will also play some games
(one belonging to each of the main game genres), in order to capture the
traffic and to show the effect of delay and packet loss on the playability.

It will also be possible for some of the attendants to run an online car
race with us during the session (we need 6 or 7 volunteers). The session
will last 45 minutes.

 

Best regards,

 

Jose Saldana

PS: This is the first video, just in case you have not watched it yet:
http://youtu.be/_G96ULX7Iak

 

 


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Hi all,
 
This is a second video presenting the tutorial of online =
games traffic. You will like it for sure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQAnW9HTkbsI

Berlin, IETF87. THURSDAY August 1st, 10.35 AM. =
Postdam 1 room, Intercontinental Hotel
Transport Area Open Meeting =
(tsvarea) https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/87/agenda/tsvarea/

Some questions we would try to =
answer:

- How is the traffic generated by online games?
- What =
protocols do they use?
- What is the average packet size of the =
traffic of that games?
- How many people play online games in the =
World?
- What is the effect of delay and packet loss on online =
games?
- Is it possible to beat your son with the Playstation? =
How?

During the session we will not only talk, but we will also =
play some games (one belonging to each of the main game genres), in =
order to capture the traffic and to show the effect of delay and packet =
loss on the playability.

It will also be possible for some of the =
attendants to run an online car race with us during the session (we need =
6 or 7 volunteers). The session will last 45 =
minutes.
 
Best regards,
 
Jose Saldana
PS: This is the first video, just =
in case you have not watched it yet: http://youtu.be/_G96ULX7Iak=

 
 

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http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/87attendees/current/maillist.html 

I might be wrong but it appears that archive is an open list. You can easily
access it without login to the list.

Hosnieh

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> To: 87attendees@ietf.org
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> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone tried the archive?
> 
> I have not been able to log in with my email address and registration
> number as user/password pair.
> 
> I am able to receive new email, though.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jeffrey
> 
> 
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Indeed the one pointed out by Hosnieh and Ines is an open list and I get in=
 w/o any problem. I'm all set for my original intention.

Curious though - I was following the link listed on the following page:

https://www.ietf.org/meeting/email-list.html

The second link on that page is "87attendees email archive" and it points t=
o https://www.ietf.org/mailman/private/87attendees/.

What's the difference?

Jeffrey

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>=20
> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/87attendees/current/maillist.html
>=20
> I might be wrong but it appears that archive is an open list. You can
> easily
> access it without login to the list.
>=20
> Hosnieh
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-
> > bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
> > Sent: Montag, 22. Juli 2013 14:47
> > To: 87attendees@ietf.org
> > Subject: [87attendees] email archive login
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Has anyone tried the archive?
> >
> > I have not been able to log in with my email address and registration
> > number as user/password pair.
> >
> > I am able to receive new email, though.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Jeffrey
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 87attendees mailing list
> > 87attendees@ietf.org
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees
>=20
> _______________________________________________
> 87attendees mailing list
> 87attendees@ietf.org
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In addition to that: if you plan to use public transport a lot, you can
also buy  5-day ticket (with some tourist benefits, see
http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/17180/name/Berlin+CityTourCard.html ) for
AB Zone costing  € 29.90,  or 7-day tickets (plain vanilla) for AB Zone
costing € 28.00.

Cheers,

Peter

Am 21.07.2013 10:04, schrieb Hosnieh Rafiee:
> Follow up,
>
> More information for people who would like to use public transportation (bus, Ubahn, Sbahn, regional trains). Berlin transportation is expensive. To avoid spending extra money on transportations, I just give you some hints which is based on my experience living here.
> When you buy a ticket for public transportation, be sure that you buy a correct ticket. In the map I sent you in last email, there are 3 zones. A, B, C with different colors. ABC zones are the most expensive ticket. With that ticket you can also visit Potsdam which is a very nice, historical city close to Berlin and I recommend you to visit there as well. Usually for Berlin, you need to buy AB ticket. This is the same for buses. Your ticket is valid for 2 hours since the time you validated it (this ticket can be validated in Bus, in sbahn station, in ubahn station). It means you can go in one direction as much as you like and change among different public transportations such as buses, subway trains, etc with one ticket except taxi! But this ticket is not valid for returning, even though it is not expired yet. 
>
> There are some types of tickets. I recommend you to buy 4 pass tickets or 8 pass tickets. Then it will be cheaper than 2.40 € (for AB zone). You can also buy the whole day ticket (9 €). I do not recommend this type of ticket unless the 8 pass tickets is not enough for your travel during a day. 
>
> You can rent a bike (about 10 € per day and will be cheaper if you rent it more than a day)  and go around by bike. The streets and pedestrians are marked by a red line for bikes. If you ever plan to take a train while having a bike. You need to buy a half fare ticket for your bike. It is about 1.5 €. 
>
> Enjoy your stay in Berlin,
> Hosnieh
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> However, I failed to grab a ticket before the tickets were sold out.
> So I'm wondering if there are chances that an alternative event could
> be provided by the sponsor.

patience.  my impression from other ietfs is that the volume of ticket
resales is mostly the 24-36 hours before the event.  but you have to be
quick and make it easy for the seller.

randy

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Randy is right, be patient, and check your mail more often around the
time.=20
Check with IETF desk or on-line too, tickets sometimes go back there.

Luyuan

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>> However, I failed to grab a ticket before the tickets were sold out.
>> So I'm wondering if there are chances that an alternative event could
>> be provided by the sponsor.
>
>patience.  my impression from other ietfs is that the volume of ticket
>resales is mostly the 24-36 hours before the event.  but you have to be
>quick and make it easy for the seller.
>
>randy
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I was staying in the overflow hotel last month

2 items.

1.) "Cafe am Neuen See" is EPIC
2.) no air conditioning in subway cars

J

On Jul 19, 2013, at 2:08 AM, Martin Neitzel  wrote:

> Cafe am Neuen See":

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Subject: [87attendees] Meeting room temperature?
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Can anyone comment on what the meeting room temperatures are likely 
to be on average?  Being summer, it would be nice to be able to pack 
light and rely on shorts and T-shirts.

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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, N.Leymann@telekom.de wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> For all of you being interested in the history of computer gaming
> there is the "Computer Gaming Museum" Berlin. They are open from
> 10:00 - 20:00 but not on Tuesday (!). They offer public and private
> tours (details can be found on their web site, see link below). Next
> underground stop is "Weberwiese" (U5). Take either S-Bahn or U-Bahn
> from underground stop "Zoologischer Garten" to "Alexanderplatz" and
> change there to U5 (U-Bahn) to Weberwiese. The trip should take
> about 30 minutes.
> 
> http://www.computerspielemuseum.de/1210_Home.htm

I was there last summer with a five year old kid. Very nice.

For people who enjoy the group Kraftwerk, they have an exhibition at
gallery Sprüth Magers located at Oranienburger Strasse 18.

http://spruethmagers.com/home/

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Just got email from the tourist admins @ Reichstag. They will only take
25 folks. No chance for additional ;-( Didn't even want to add more
folks to the list in case someone from the original list needs to bail out.

Cheers
    Toerless

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> I got more interest now than the tour will accept (they say 25).  I used FCFS.
> 
> Here is the list of 25 names that are on the list, and then 5 more for
> overflow, in case someone bails out I have sent an email to each one of
> the 30 addresses to check if i copied their full names and DoB correctly.
> If you did not receive that email, please ping me.
> 
> Gabor Sandor Enyedi
> Ram Krishnan
> Bede McCall
> Chao Zhou
> Rong Li
> Robert Benz
> Min-Sik Jun
> Violet Wandaho Njuguna
> Chae Chung
> Sanjay Mishra
> Syed Wasif_Hussain
> Toerless Tobias Eckert
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> Di Wu
> Jonathan R Mitchell
> Wendy Seltzer
> James Gettys
> David Harrington
> Susan Frenchman
> Derek Atkins
> Maria Josefa Lopez_Sanchez
> Alfredo Pironti
> 
> Overflow:
> 
> Sam Kappala Aldrin
> Sigfrido Eduardo Perdomo
> Savina Cavallo
> Brian David Campbell
> Orit Levin
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> P.S.: I did not receive DoB from the following, so unfortunately, i can
> not include them in the list (had sent email to re-inquire):
> Puneet Agarwal, Konstantinos Pentikousis, Vinayak Vithal Hegde
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Hi,

> 2.) no air conditioning in subway cars
Good news is that at least the new busses and trams have air condition. If =
you happen to sit in an old u-bahn or s-bahn on a hot day, you are doomed (=
note: forecast for the coming weekend are temperatures well over 30 Celsius=
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  Regards

     Nic

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Some meeting rooms will be warm enough that people will complain. Some cool=
 enough that people complain. Both may apply to the same room.

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> Can anyone comment on what the meeting room temperatures are likely to be=
 on average?  Being summer, it would be nice to be able to pack light and r=
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On 07/22/13 17:24, Randall Gellens allegedly wrote:
> Can anyone comment on what the meeting room temperatures are likely to
> be on average?  Being summer, it would be nice to be able to pack light
> and rely on shorts and T-shirts.

Randy, the outside temperature will only get up to (Fahrenheit) high
70s, low 80s, and it will be 50s at night.


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> Randy, the outside temperature will only get up to (Fahrenheit) high
> 70s, low 80s

it is currently 30c in amsterdam, that's 86f

randy

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On 7/23/2013 2:29 PM, Scott Brim wrote:
> On 07/22/13 17:24, Randall Gellens allegedly wrote:
>> Can anyone comment on what the meeting room temperatures are likely to
>> be on average?  Being summer, it would be nice to be able to pack light
>> and rely on shorts and T-shirts.
>
> Randy, the outside temperature will only get up to (Fahrenheit) high
> 70s, low 80s, and it will be 50s at night.


Well, the current forecast for this Saturday is 89 and Sunday is 97.

So while yes, the current forecast farther into next week is for upper 
70s to lower 80s, the variance common to weather forecasts suggests some 
possibility for really quite hot, down to perhaps a bit cool.

And then there is always the joy of guessing what the room temperature 
might be with a packed house on a hot day in a place that doesn't get 
many of those and often does not handle it well.

The packed room reference is to note that each human contributes the 
equivalent of 100 watts.  (There are no dim wits in the IETF.)

d/




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I'm in Potsdam right now, temp 83F and it (subjectively) feels quite =
warm.  S-Bahn and trams (and my hotel) don't seem to have AC.  At =
present, I wish I had brought some shorts (others may have a different =
opinion about whether I should wear shorts).

weather.com predicts 90F (Sat) and 99F (Sun!) in Berlin, then low =
80s/upper 70s the rest of the week.

- Ralph

On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:29 PM 7/23/13, Scott Brim  =
wrote:

> On 07/22/13 17:24, Randall Gellens allegedly wrote:
>> Can anyone comment on what the meeting room temperatures are likely =
to
>> be on average?  Being summer, it would be nice to be able to pack =
light
>> and rely on shorts and T-shirts.
>=20
> Randy, the outside temperature will only get up to (Fahrenheit) high
> 70s, low 80s, and it will be 50s at night.
>=20
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Hi,

> I'm in Potsdam right now, temp 83F and it (subjectively) feels quite warm=
.  S-Bahn and trams
> (and my hotel) don't seem to have AC.  At present, I wish I had brought s=
ome shorts
> (others may have a different opinion about whether I should wear shorts).
Well, the weekend will be very warm and very humid; next week will be bette=
r but from my experience
forecasts here in Berlin going beyond 4 days are not very accurate. Some of=
 the new trams have AC
as well as the new busses. Nevertheless using public transport especially d=
uring the rush hours is
not the most pleasent experience.

  Regards

     Nic

On Jul 23, 2013, at 3:29 PM 7/23/13, Scott Brim  wrote:

> On 07/22/13 17:24, Randall Gellens allegedly wrote:
>> Can anyone comment on what the meeting room temperatures are likely to
>> be on average?  Being summer, it would be nice to be able to pack light
>> and rely on shorts and T-shirts.
>
> Randy, the outside temperature will only get up to (Fahrenheit) high
> 70s, low 80s, and it will be 50s at night.
>
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I note that the overflow hotel (Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof) advertises WiF=
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Does  anyone know how much  this fee will be for IETFers? (I'm hoping it is=
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Does  anyone know how much  this fee will be for IETFers? (I=
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If you read the hotel information on the meeting page, it states:

NOTE: Room rates include one complimentary breakfast for a single rate room=
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nclude complimentary in room high-speed internet access. All taxes, service=
 and fees are included in the above rates. Taxes are subject to change.

Regards

Keith

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Subject: [87attendees] WiFI at Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof

I note that the overflow hotel (Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof) advertises WiF=
i for a fee.
Does  anyone know how much  this fee will be for IETFers? (I'm hoping it is=
 included in
the IETF room rate).


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If you read the hotel information on t=
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NOTE: Room rates include one complimentary breakfast for a sin=
gle rate room and two complimentary breakfasts for a double rate room. Room=
 rates also include complimentary
 in room high-speed internet access. All taxes, service and fees are includ=
ed in the above rates. Taxes are subject to change.


 


Regards


 


Keith<=
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I note that the overflow hotel (Pullman Berlin Schweiz=
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It seems as though WiFi is comprised in the IETF rate.


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Subject: [87attendees] WiFI at Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof

I note that the overflow hotel (Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof) advertises WiF=
i for a fee.
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I note that the overflow hotel (Pullman Berlin Schweiz=
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I'd further note that what you get in the way of internet support in the ov=
erflow hotels is whatever the hotel normally provides.

Hotel internet systems invariably go into some sort of meltdown as soon as =
IETF participants check in.

For the main hotel things depend on whether the hotel system is taken over =
or not.

Regards

Keith

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If you read the hotel information on the meeting page, it states:

NOTE: Room rates include one complimentary breakfast for a single rate room=
 and two complimentary breakfasts for a double rate room. Room rates also i=
nclude complimentary in room high-speed internet access. All taxes, service=
 and fees are included in the above rates. Taxes are subject to change.

Regards

Keith

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Subject: [87attendees] WiFI at Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof

I note that the overflow hotel (Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof) advertises WiF=
i for a fee.
Does  anyone know how much  this fee will be for IETFers? (I'm hoping it is=
 included in
the IETF room rate).


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I’d further note that what you g=
et in the way of internet support in the overflow hotels is whatever the ho=
tel normally provides.


 


Hotel internet systems invariably go i=
nto some sort of meltdown as soon as IETF participants check in.=



 


For the main hotel things depend on wh=
ether the hotel system is taken over or not.


 


Regards


 


Keith


 












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DRAGE, Keith (Keith)

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Subject: Re: [87attendees] W=
iFI at 
Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof




 


If you read the hotel information on t=
he meeting page, it states:


 


NOTE: Room rates include one complimentary breakfast for a sin=
gle rate room and two complimentary breakfasts for a double rate room. Room=
 rates also include complimentary
 in room high-speed internet access. All taxes, service and fees are includ=
ed in the above rates. Taxes are subject to change.


 


Regards


 


Keith<=
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I note that the overflow hotel (Pullman Berlin Schweiz=
erhof) advertises WiFi for a fee.







Does  anyone know how much  this fee will be=
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Any idea about the non-IETF rate, for those who didn't get the block?

Will some IETF wifi experts be "fixing" the main + overflow hotels wifi 
prior to Sunday?

P.


On 23/07/13 15:51, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote:
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> Looking at the related site 
> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/hotel.html#Pullman
>
> It seems as though WiFi is comprised in the IETF rate.
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>
> I note that the overflow hotel (Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof) 
> advertises WiFi for a fee.
>
> Does  anyone know how much this fee will be for IETFers? (I'm hoping 
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Any idea about the non-IETF rate, for
      those who didn't get the block?

      

      Will some IETF wifi experts be "fixing" the main + overflow hotels
      wifi prior to Sunday?

      

      P.

      

      

      On 23/07/13 15:51, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote:

    

    

      
      
      
            
            

              
Looking at the related site
                    http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/hotel.html#Pullman

              
It seems as though WiFi is comprised in
                    the IETF rate.

              
 

              

                
 

                
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                      Schweizerhof

              

              
 

              

                
I note that the overflow
                      hotel (Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof) advertises
                      WiFi for a fee.
                      

              

              

                
Does  anyone know how much 
                      this fee will be for IETFers? (I’m hoping it is
                      included in
                      

              

              

                
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Maybe some of the 150 people who picked up RIPE probes at the last NANOG
conference, could bring them along and use them to provide "free" WiFi?

Or, perhaps the folks giving away the RIPE probes could bring some with
them to give to overflow guests?

(This will improve RIPE probe coverage when a more diverse set of folks
take them home and plug them in, after the IETF).

Brian


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Paul Aitken  wrote:

>  Any idea about the non-IETF rate, for those who didn't get the block?
>
> Will some IETF wifi experts be "fixing" the main + overflow hotels wifi
> prior to Sunday?
>
> P.
>
>
>
> On 23/07/13 15:51, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote:
>
> ******
>
> Looking at the related site
> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/hotel.html#Pullman****
>
> It seems as though WiFi is comprised in the IETF rate.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org=
<87attendees-bounces@ietf.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Igoe, Kevin M.
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:45 PM
> *To:* '87attendees@ietf.org'
> *Subject:* [87attendees] WiFI at ** **Pullman** **Berlin**** Schweizerhof=
*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> I note that the overflow hotel (Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof) advertises
> WiFi for a fee. ****
>
> Does  anyone know how much  this fee will be for IETFers? (I=92m hoping i=
t
> is included in ****
>
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>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> ----------------+--------------------------------------------------****
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> Kevin M. Igoe   | "We can't solve problems by using the same kind****
>
> kmigoe@nsa.gov  | of thinking we used when we created them." ****
>
>                 |              - Albert Einstein -****
>
> ----------------+--------------------------------------------------****
>
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I don't think the probes work as APs... sadly though.

Revisiting a discussion we had in Orlando, it would be nice for IETFers
who bring along APs like Airport Expresses and the like to share their
connections. I wouldn't mind doing so.

We could use the wiki or the list to agree on an SSID and password.
Yeah, not much in terms of security, but this not the Large Hadron
Collider either. If using a AE it's possible to create a guest network
in case you don't want to mix your device's traffic with those of the
guests.

I'm staying at the Crowne Plaza, so I will probably end up paying for a
lot of Internet time I'm not going to use, so again, I'd prefer someone
else to use than just give money away to the hotel.

cheers,

Carlos

On 7/23/13 12:01 PM, Brian Dickson wrote:
> Maybe some of the 150 people who picked up RIPE probes at the last
> NANOG conference, could bring them along and use them to provide
> "free" WiFi?
>
> Or, perhaps the folks giving away the RIPE probes could bring some
> with them to give to overflow guests?
>
> (This will improve RIPE probe coverage when a more diverse set of
> folks take them home and plug them in, after the IETF).
>
> Brian
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Paul Aitken  > wrote:
>
>     Any idea about the non-IETF rate, for those who didn't get the block?
>
>     Will some IETF wifi experts be "fixing" the main + overflow hotels
>     wifi prior to Sunday?
>
>     P.
>
>
>
>     On 23/07/13 15:51, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote:
>>
>>     Looking at the related site
>>     http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/hotel.html#Pullman
>>
>>     It seems as though WiFi is comprised in the IETF rate.
>>
>>      
>>
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>>     [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Igoe, Kevin M.
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>>     *To:* '87attendees@ietf.org '
>>     *Subject:* [87attendees] WiFI at Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof
>>
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>>
>>     I note that the overflow hotel (Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof)
>>     advertises WiFi for a fee.
>>
>>     Does  anyone know how much  this fee will be for IETFers? (I'm
>>     hoping it is included in
>>
>>     the IETF room rate).
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    I don't think the probes work as APs... sadly though.

    

    Revisiting a discussion we had in Orlando, it would be nice for
    IETFers who bring along APs like Airport Expresses and the like to
    share their connections. I wouldn't mind doing so. 

    

    We could use the wiki or the list to agree on an SSID and password.
    Yeah, not much in terms of security, but this not the Large Hadron
    Collider either. If using a AE it's possible to create a guest
    network in case you don't want to mix your device's traffic with
    those of the guests.

    

    I'm staying at the Crowne Plaza, so I will probably end up paying
    for a lot of Internet time I'm not going to use, so again, I'd
    prefer someone else to use than just give money away to the hotel.

    

    cheers,

    

    Carlos

    

    
On 7/23/13 12:01 PM, Brian Dickson
      wrote:

    

    

      
Maybe some of the 150 people who picked up RIPE
        probes at the last NANOG conference, could bring them along and
        use them to provide "free" WiFi?
        


        

        
Or, perhaps the folks giving away the RIPE probes could
          bring some with them to give to overflow guests?

        


        

        
(This will improve RIPE probe coverage when a more diverse
          set of folks take them home and plug them in, after the IETF).

        


        

        
Brian

      

      


        

        

          On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Paul Aitken <paitken@cisco.com> wrote:

          

            

              
Any idea about the non-IETF rate, for those who
                didn't get the block?

                

                Will some IETF wifi experts be "fixing" the main +
                overflow hotels wifi prior to Sunday?

                

                P.
                

                  


                    

                    

                    On 23/07/13 15:51, BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO) wrote:

                  

                

              

              

                

                  

                    

                      
Looking at the related site http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/hotel.html#Pullman

                      
It seems as though WiFi is
                            comprised in the IETF rate.

                      
 

                      

                        
 

                        
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I note that the overflow
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                              advertises WiFi for a fee. 

                      

                      

                        
Does  anyone know how much 
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> PS: Apparently there are apps that will help you find the wifi hotspots,
> but unlike the wifi the apps are not free.  YMMV.

Here's the map of where they are, for people who want to plan ahead.

http://www.berlin.de/projektzukunft/ikt-wirtschaft/breitband/wlan-hotspots-des-landes-berlin/

There aren't a lot near the hotel.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
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FWIW, there's a free Hotspotfinder Berlin app on Google Play store. I 
cannot test it while I'm still in Tel Aviv...

Thanks,
	Yaron

On 2013-07-23 20:18, Derek Atkins wrote:
> FYI, there appears to be some free public wifi available in some
> locations around Berlin.  So if you're playing tourist and don't have a
> GSM phone (or don't have local service) you might still be able to get
> online long enough to get transit directions.
>
> http://www.visitberlin.de/en/article/w-lan-for-all-public-wi-fi-berlin
>
> -derek
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> PS: Apparently there are apps that will help you find the wifi hotspots,
> but unlike the wifi the apps are not free.  YMMV.
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Note that that the IETF is venturing into an area with a significant
community networking activity, which is a land of mesh networking (e.g.
OLSR, BATMAN, and Babel routing protocols have all been developed in these
communities; I think OLSR is what you'll find used in the Freifunk network).

See: http://start.freifunk.net/

I have not visited Berlin recently, but was blown away when I visited the
Catalonia region of Spain for a Battlemesh meeting a couple years ago, and
understood the scale at which the largest of these European community
networks (guifi.net) now operates.  See http://guifi.net/ca/maps for a map
of that network; it has about 21,000 active nodes, almost 40,000KM of
wireless links. That was the only place I have ever seen a completely
"green" netalyzr run, including IPv6.

I have no clue if freifunk have open routers near the hotels, however.  I'm
trying to find out.  But if you see "freifunk" in an ESSID, that would be
one useful clue...
                                              - Jim





On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:26 PM, John R Levine  wrote:

> PS: Apparently there are apps that will help you find the wifi hotspots,
>> but unlike the wifi the apps are not free.  YMMV.
>>
>
> Here's the map of where they are, for people who want to plan ahead.
>
> http://www.berlin.de/**projektzukunft/ikt-wirtschaft/**
> breitband/wlan-hotspots-des-**landes-berlin/
>
> There aren't a lot near the hotel.
>
> Regards,
> John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
> "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.
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Not=
e that that the IETF is venturing into an area with a significant community=
 networking activity, which is a land of mesh networking (e.g. OLSR, BATMAN=
, and Babel routing protocols have all been developed in these communities;=
 I think OLSR is what you'll find used in the Freifunk network).



See:=A0http://start.freifunk.net/


I have not=
 visited Berlin recently, but was blown away when I visited the Catalonia r=
egion of Spain for a Battlemesh meeting a couple years ago, and understood =
the scale at which the largest of these European community networks (guifi.net) now operates. =A0See=A0http://guifi.net/ca/maps=A0for a map of that net=
work; it has about 21,000 active nodes, almost 40,000KM of wireless links. =
That was the only place I have ever seen a completely "green" net=
alyzr run, including IPv6.



I have no clue if freifunk hav=
e open routers near the hotels, however. =A0I'm trying to find out. =A0=
But if you see "freifunk" in an ESSID, that would be one useful c=
lue...


=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - J=
im







On Tue, Jul=
 23, 2013 at 1:26 PM, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:


PS: Apparently there are apps that will help you find the wifi hotspots,
but unlike the wifi the apps are not free. =A0YMMV.





Here's the map of where they are, for people who want to plan ahead.


http://www.berlin.de/projektzukunft/ikt-wirtschaft/breitband/wlan-hotspots-des-l=
andes-berlin/




There aren't a lot near the hotel.



Regards,

John Levine, johnl@tau=
gh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY

"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.


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I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out in =
Berlin.

At this meeting we have quite many BOFs. This is of course great, it is =
good that people are bringing new work to the IETF. I look forward to =
the discussions during the week and hopefully a number of new working =
groups will eventually be created.

But we want as many people as possible to become involved in these =
efforts, or at least provide their feedback during the week. So we have =
given an opportunity for the BOFs to display a poster in the Welcome =
Reception (Sunday 5pm to 7pm). If you are attending the reception, take =
a look at the posters and look for topics that interest you. Someone =
running the BOF is also likely standing by, so you can also get directly =
involved in discussions, sign up to help, etc. We hope that this helps =
you all network with others even more :-)

Jari Arkko
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Hi Jari,
Great idea - thanks for that! ... but this will only affect / concern the '=
official' approved BoFs and not the also large amount of BarBoFs (which BTW=
 might even need more advertisement ;-)), right?
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Dirk

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I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out in Berlin.

At this meeting we have quite many BOFs. This is of course great, it is goo=
d that people are bringing new work to the IETF. I look forward to the disc=
ussions during the week and hopefully a number of new working groups will e=
ventually be created.

But we want as many people as possible to become involved in these efforts,=
 or at least provide their feedback during the week. So we have given an op=
portunity for the BOFs to display a poster in the Welcome Reception (Sunday=
 5pm to 7pm). If you are attending the reception, take a look at the poster=
s and look for topics that interest you. Someone running the BOF is also li=
kely standing by, so you can also get directly involved in discussions, sig=
n up to help, etc. We hope that this helps you all network with others even=
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Hi Brian,

On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Brian Dickson wrote:

> Maybe some of the 150 people who picked up RIPE probes at the last =
NANOG conference, could bring them along and use them to provide "free" =
WiFi?

The probes are not access points, just measurement devices.

>=20
> Or, perhaps the folks giving away the RIPE probes could bring some =
with them to give to overflow guests?

That is not a problem :) Me and my NCC colleagues will bring some =
probes. Not 150, though! Maybe around 40.


>=20
> (This will improve RIPE probe coverage when a more diverse set of =
folks take them home and plug them in, after the IETF).

Yes, we were hoping for that :) As you can see on the map: =
https://atlas.ripe.net/active_probes_map the coverage for Europe is very =
decent but there are still some
places in the world that could use a probe. If you can manage to set up =
a probe there, please let me know in Berlin :)

Nathalie Trenaman
RIPE NCC Trainer



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Hi, the RIPE Atlas probes (the newer versions) do have some written
label on it that may give you the impression they can do wifi.
They cannot. They do RIPE ATLAS measurements.

By the way, I will be bringing (as Nathalie wrote) some more RIPE
ATLAS probes to the IETF87 in Berlin. If people are interested to
host one, pls see me )or one of my colleagues.

If you want to be sure to get one, pls let me know in advance,
no later than this Friday noon UTC and I can make sure I keep one
for you. Otherwise it is: FCFS.

for details about RIPE ATLAS go to: https://atlas.ripe.net
Apologies if anyone sees this as spam/plug/ad

Bert

On 7/24/13 10:49 AM, Nathalie Trenaman wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Brian Dickson wrote:
>
>> Maybe some of the 150 people who picked up RIPE probes at the last NANOG conference, could bring them along and use them to provide "free" WiFi?
>
> The probes are not access points, just measurement devices.
>
>>
>> Or, perhaps the folks giving away the RIPE probes could bring some with them to give to overflow guests?
>
> That is not a problem :) Me and my NCC colleagues will bring some probes. Not 150, though! Maybe around 40.
>
>
>>
>> (This will improve RIPE probe coverage when a more diverse set of folks take them home and plug them in, after the IETF).
>
> Yes, we were hoping for that :) As you can see on the map: https://atlas.ripe.net/active_probes_map the coverage for Europe is very decent but there are still some
> places in the world that could use a probe. If you can manage to set up a probe there, please let me know in Berlin :)
>
> Nathalie Trenaman
> RIPE NCC Trainer
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[[ Back on topic ]]

When you sign in, they say "and breakfast is included". You then say =
"and so is the Internet". If they say "how many devices do you need", =
you reply "I'm part of the IETF group, there should have been a special =
piece of paper in my registration stuff" and they'll hopefully find it. =
(The person checking me in started to give me forms for per-device =
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here and I need to get some sleep soon".)

--Paul Hoffman=

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FWIW, the Palace Hotel seems in very easy walking distance from the IC. =
If you take the X9 bus from the airport and walk to the IC (15 minutes, =
even with luggage), you pass the Palace Hotel on the way.

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I just walked from the Palace to the InterCon. Took about 6 minutes and you p=
ass the Aquarium on the way. You know you've reached the InterCon when you c=
ome upon the Marlene Bar.=20

Ray

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ith luggage), you pass the Palace Hotel on the way.
>=20
> --Paul Hoffman
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Hello Jari,

Sticking with tradition, APPSAWG/APPAREA has the first Monday morning time
slot and we have invited the chairs of all BoFs to talk for a minute or two
about their sessions.  I don't know about inviting the general IETF public
to attend because of room constraints, but that will also be a good way to
get an overview of all the BoFs.

-MSK



On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:22 PM, IETF Chair  wrote:

> I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out in Berlin.
>
> At this meeting we have quite many BOFs. This is of course great, it is
> good that people are bringing new work to the IETF. I look forward to the
> discussions during the week and hopefully a number of new working groups
> will eventually be created.
>
> But we want as many people as possible to become involved in these
> efforts, or at least provide their feedback during the week. So we have
> given an opportunity for the BOFs to display a poster in the Welcome
> Reception (Sunday 5pm to 7pm). If you are attending the reception, take a
> look at the posters and look for topics that interest you. Someone running
> the BOF is also likely standing by, so you can also get directly involved
> in discussions, sign up to help, etc. We hope that this helps you all
> network with others even more :-)
>
> Jari Arkko
> IETF Chair
>
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Hello Jari,

Sticking with tradition=
, APPSAWG/APPAREA has the first Monday morning time slot and we have invite=
d the chairs of all BoFs to talk for a minute or two about their sessions.=
=A0 I don't know about inviting the general IETF public to attend becau=
se of room constraints, but that will also be a good way to get an overview=
 of all the BoFs.


-MSK



On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:22 PM, IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org=
> wrote:


I wanted to let you know about an experiment=
 we are trying out in Berlin.



At this meeting we have quite many BOFs. This is of course great, it is goo=
d that people are bringing new work to the IETF. I look forward to the disc=
ussions during the week and hopefully a number of new working groups will e=
ventually be created.




But we want as many people as possible to become involved in these efforts,=
 or at least provide their feedback during the week. So we have given an op=
portunity for the BOFs to display a poster in the Welcome Reception (Sunday=
 5pm to 7pm). If you are attending the reception, take a look at the poster=
s and look for topics that interest you. Someone running the BOF is also li=
kely standing by, so you can also get directly involved in discussions, sig=
n up to help, etc. We hope that this helps you all network with others even=
 more :-)




Jari Arkko

IETF Chair



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Regards,

Christer



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From: Derek Atkins [DAtkins@mocana.com]
To: 87attendees@ietf.org [87attendees@ietf.org]
Subject: [87attendees] Free Public Wifi in Berlin
FYI, there appears to be some free public wifi available in some
locations around Berlin.  So if you're playing tourist and don't have a
GSM phone (or don't have local service) you might still be able to get
online long enough to get transit directions.

http://www.visitberlin.de/en/article/w-lan-for-all-public-wi-fi-berlin

-derek

PS: Apparently there are apps that will help you find the wifi hotspots,
but unlike the wifi the apps are not free.  YMMV.

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From: Derek Atkins [DAtkins@mocana.com]

To: 87attendees@ietf.org [87attendees@ietf.org]

Subject: [87attendees] Free Public Wifi in Berlin



FYI, there appears to be some free public wifi ava=
ilable in some

locations around Berlin.  So if you're playing tourist and don't have =
a

GSM phone (or don't have local service) you might still be able to get

online long enough to get transit directions.



http://www.visitberlin.de/en/article/w-lan-for-all-public-wi-fi-ber=
lin



-derek



PS: Apparently there are apps that will help you find the wifi hotspots,
but unlike the wifi the apps are not free.  YMMV.



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 > I don't know about inviting the general IETF public
 > to attend because of room constraints ...

uh d00d, like, u just did that...


8^)


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Hi,

there are many cafes offering free WiFi. Simply ask for an access code.

  regards

     Nic

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I am currently in Berlin, and at least the Starbucks I've visited had free =
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Regards,

Christer



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-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Atkins [DAtkins@mocana.com]
To: 87attendees@ietf.org [87attendees@ietf.org]
Subject: [87attendees] Free Public Wifi in Berlin
FYI, there appears to be some free public wifi available in some
locations around Berlin.  So if you're playing tourist and don't have a
GSM phone (or don't have local service) you might still be able to get
online long enough to get transit directions.

http://www.visitberlin.de/en/article/w-lan-for-all-public-wi-fi-berlin

-derek

PS: Apparently there are apps that will help you find the wifi hotspots,
but unlike the wifi the apps are not free.  YMMV.

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  regards


 


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On Mon, 22 Jul 2013, Randall Gellens wrote:

> Can anyone comment on what the meeting room temperatures are likely 
> to be on average?  Being summer, it would be nice to be able to pack 
> light and rely on shorts and T-shirts.

Over the last 48 hours or so: the AC in one Intercontinental meeting 
room (sorry, limited datapoints) has ranged from adequate to 
inadequate but has not been excessive.  I think you'll be comfortable 
in shorts, especially on Sunday, when the outside temperature is 
forecast to be 99 (F).

Past performance and all that.

-- Sam


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Hello folks,

The URL in the email below leads to this URL:
            http://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf81/companion.py
which offers companion registration for Quebec City...

However:
http://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf87/companion.py
does work for companion registration for Berlin.

Regards,
Charlie P.


On 7/19/2013 8:30 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> Is there a URL for companion program, I too won't be alone on this trip.
> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/companion-program.html
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-- 
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Charlie P.


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All;

You can get power adapters at the front desk of the InterCon.  They will =
charge 20 EUR per adapter on your room and credit it back with their =
return.

I found this out when my US power strip smoked when plugged into an =
adapter.  Absent those 6 outlets I needed more adapters.

Ray





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On 26/07/13 09:50, Ray Pelletier wrote:
> All;
>
> You can get power adapters at the front desk of the InterCon.  They will charge 20 EUR per adapter on your room and credit it back with their return.
>
> I found this out when my US power strip smoked when plugged into an adapter.  Absent those 6 outlets I needed more adapters.


the reason being?? voltage difference or ...  sorry about the power 
strip's gone.

-- Aaron

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>> I found this out when my US power strip smoked when plugged into an 
>> adapter.  Absent those 6 outlets I needed more adapters.
>
> the reason being?? voltage difference or ...  sorry about the power strip's 
> gone.

It sounds like a power strip that has MOVs for overvoltage protection. 
If you open up the strip, clip out the remains of the MOVs, and close it 
up again, it'll probably work fine on 220v.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.

PS: Guess how I know that.

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CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE for the OPS area open office hours:
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Together with my colleague Gerardo we visited the building this evening.
Highly recommendable. Thanks to those who mentioned this on the list, I
couldn't find the original post.

cheers!

Carlos

On 7/23/13 5:56 AM, eckert@cisco.com wrote:
> Just got email from the tourist admins @ Reichstag. They will only take
> 25 folks. No chance for additional ;-( Didn't even want to add more
> folks to the list in case someone from the original list needs to bail out.
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> Cheers
>     Toerless
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>> I got more interest now than the tour will accept (they say 25).  I used FCFS.
>>
>> Here is the list of 25 names that are on the list, and then 5 more for
>> overflow, in case someone bails out I have sent an email to each one of
>> the 30 addresses to check if i copied their full names and DoB correctly.
>> If you did not receive that email, please ping me.
>>
>> Gabor Sandor Enyedi
>> Ram Krishnan
>> Bede McCall
>> Chao Zhou
>> Rong Li
>> Robert Benz
>> Min-Sik Jun
>> Violet Wandaho Njuguna
>> Chae Chung
>> Sanjay Mishra
>> Syed Wasif_Hussain
>> Toerless Tobias Eckert
>> Avri Doria
>> Thomas Ludwig Roessler
>> Dhruv Dhody
>> Jarrett Lu
>> Di Wu
>> Jonathan R Mitchell
>> Wendy Seltzer
>> James Gettys
>> David Harrington
>> Susan Frenchman
>> Derek Atkins
>> Maria Josefa Lopez_Sanchez
>> Alfredo Pironti
>>
>> Overflow:
>>
>> Sam Kappala Aldrin
>> Sigfrido Eduardo Perdomo
>> Savina Cavallo
>> Brian David Campbell
>> Orit Levin
>>
>> P.S.: I did not receive DoB from the following, so unfortunately, i can
>> not include them in the list (had sent email to re-inquire):
>> Puneet Agarwal, Konstantinos Pentikousis, Vinayak Vithal Hegde
>>


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Hey all,

Does anyone know a place in Berlin where one might be able to practice on a
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Thanks!

-- Fred

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Hey all,

Does anyone know a place in Berlin where one might be able to practice on a piano, perhaps at a price?

Thanks!

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(This question seems to get asked at almost every IETF; it should =
probably be put in the Wiki for each meeting.)

Is there any self-service laundromat anywhere near the IETF hotel(s) =
(where 'nearby' includes 'nearby with public transit')?

	Ross.


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I walked past one today, but even if you threaten to kill me I don't
think I could be able to find it again.

It's in the neighborhood of the DIN building, I think it was on
Keithstrasse, close to Lutzowufer:

https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m4!1m3!1d2343!2d13.3472241!3d52.5055141!2m1!1e3&fid=7

Good luck!

~Carlos

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> 	Ross.
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Hi Fred,

  see http://www.steinway-berlin.de/klavierangebote/studio

  They are located L=FCtzowufer 28/ Ecke Keithstra=DFe, which is not far=20
away from the IETF venue.

  For 11 EUR/hour, you can play on a grand piano (Model D-274).

  You can make a reservation via 030 315 731 14.


Cheers
  matthias


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=2E  Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Fred Akalin wrote:

> Hey all,
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> Thanks!
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It's hard to believe only 2 people arriving on Sunday as shown at 
http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/87arrivals

So people either dont know or don't want to use this page?

Lixia

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On 7/27/13 3:43 AM, Lixia Zhang wrote:
> It's hard to believe only 2 people arriving on Sunday as shown at
> http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/87arrivals
>
> So people either dont know or don't want to use this page?

Or that given the scale and availability of the mass transit, there's 
very little reason to coordinate.

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Transit works well and the hotel is not far. (For =
Orlando/Anaheim/Maastricht coordination was more useful.)

I just looked around after my arrival and found some IETFers. You'll =
probably find some, too. But even with a taxi, the fare was just 16=80 =
to the hotel. The drivers either speak English or can easily understand =
that you want to get to the "Inter-Conti" as our driver called it.

Jari


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On 07/27/13 08:24, Jari Arkko allegedly wrote:
> Transit works well and the hotel is not far. (For Orlando/Anaheim/Maast=
richt coordination was more useful.)
>=20
> I just looked around after my arrival and found some IETFers. You'll pr=
obably find some, too.=20

On the airplane, even.

> But even with a taxi, the fare was just 16=80 to the hotel. The drivers=
 either speak English or can easily understand that you want to get to th=
e "Inter-Conti" as our driver called it.

To get a taxi, turn left and go to the separated island.


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The Sapphires is a good airplane movie.  Read the epilogue text for some
nice surprises.


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Subject: Re: [87attendees] [87all] Pullman guests: plan for using wired net
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On 07/25/2013 05:54 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote:
> Hence, if you are staying at the Pullman Hotel, you may wish to prepare to use the wired network in your hotel room.  Specifically, you may wish to bring with you an access point and/or a long ethernet cable with an RJ45 coupler.  Note that the ethernet cables provided by the Pullman (in at least some rooms) are both quite short and non-standard (pins 1 and 2 are swapped with 4 and 5), so neither straight cables nor standard crossover cables will work on their own. Accordingly, if bringing a long network cable, it may also be wise to bring an RJ45 coupler.

You might want to use an RJ45 changer:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/c890/

A small switch which can handle VLAN Tags + provide a SPAN-Port:
http://routerboard.com/RB250GS

And a small router with Linux + WiFi:
http://www.tp-link.com.de/products/details/?categoryid=218&model=TL-MR3020


This is really helpful if you encounter strange hotel networks (e.g the
Hilton in Vienna) which also provides native v4/v6 in a seperate VLAN in
addition to the "normal" guest network.

If you feel frisky watch out for LLDP/CDP/VTP, you might be able to
enjoy hotel Internet after all.

-dominik

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I am spending a portion of my morning at Freddy Leck Waschsalon. Gotzkowsky=
strasse 11.=20
Nice, English speaking attendant with beer, espresso, free wifi and comfy s=
eating available.=20
I think laundry service is also available, but I am waiting for mine.=20

Looks like a couple of very long blocks to the subway, I cheated and took a=
 taxi.=20

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 27, 2013, at 12:33 AM, "Ross Finlayson"  wrot=
e:

> (This question seems to get asked at almost every IETF; it should probabl=
y be put in the Wiki for each meeting.)
>=20
> Is there any self-service laundromat anywhere near the IETF hotel(s) (whe=
re 'nearby' includes 'nearby with public transit')?
>=20
>    Ross.
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On 27.7.2013, at 10.11, Thomas Herbst  =
wrote:
> I am spending a portion of my morning at Freddy Leck Waschsalon. =
Gotzkowskystrasse 11.=20
> Nice, English speaking attendant with beer, espresso, free wifi and =
comfy seating available.=20
> I think laundry service is also available, but I am waiting for mine.=20=

>=20
> Looks like a couple of very long blocks to the subway, I cheated and =
took a taxi.=20

+1 on Freddy Leck, went there on Thursday, and got as much hand-holding =
(and beer) as I wanted.=20

Another similar yet untested option is =
http://www.waschsalon-berlin-mitte.de/index.php - also few kilometers =
from the hotel, but easily reachable by public transport.

Cheers,

-Markus=

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If you're looking for something a bit out of the mainstream in Berlin, =
then you might want to check out the weird labyrinth in eastern Berlin.

Here are a couple of reviews:
	=
http://playingholidays.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/peristal-singum-labyrinth-=
berlin/
	=
http://jessicahdrw.blogspot.de/2012/07/49-days-peristal-singum-berlins-urb=
an.html

The labyrinth is part of the bar "Salon Zur Wilden Renate" at =
Alt-Stralau 70, 10245 Berlin.  It's open Wednesdays through Saturdays =
from 6pm-midnight.

I went there last night, and let's just say that it's the kind of weird =
and convoluted thing that only Germans could think up :-)  Having been =
through the labyrinth, I now understand why SIP is designed the way it =
is (just kidding, Henning :-)

	Ross.


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Can you forward to ietf attendee list?

If anyone has any personal contacts with someone in the Gaming Museum, 
could you please contact me?

Danke.

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At 12:32 AM +0200 7/27/13, Ross Finlayson wrote:

>  (This question seems to get asked at almost every IETF; it should 
> probably be put in the Wiki for each meeting.)
>
>  Is there any self-service laundromat anywhere near the IETF 
> hotel(s) (where 'nearby' includes 'nearby with public transit')?

I'd called my hotel last week to ask about bag-wash (fluf-n-fold) 
places, that do laundry and charge by the kilo/pound/bag.  The staff 
told me there is one super-close that charges around 4.5 euro per 
kilo for 2-day service, an extra euro or two for next-day service. 
They said it is so close the staff would be happy to take my stuff 
there for me.

They promised to give me the info on a paper when I checked in but I 
don't see it.  I'll call when they're not so busy to get it.


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Hi,

my room is at 24.5C. I called the concierge and followed their instructions but to no avail. They told me I should open a window...Nice start.

Anybody else going through the same issue?

thanks,

Reinaldo
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Hi,

my room is at 24.5C. I called the concierge and followed their instructions but to no avail. They told me I should open a window...Nice start.

Anybody else going through the same issue?

thanks,

Reinaldo





 
  

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Since the wiki is a wiki, please create a page and post the answer. That =
works for any common question. Do not wait for "someone else" to do it. =
YOU are that someone!
Thanks

[Not picking on Randy; this is directed to ANYONE with ANY common =
question, and more especially ANY common answer!]

On Jul 27, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Randall Gellens  =
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> At 12:32 AM +0200 7/27/13, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>=20
>> (This question seems to get asked at almost every IETF; it should =
probably be put in the Wiki for each meeting.)
>>=20
>> Is there any self-service laundromat anywhere near the IETF hotel(s) =
(where 'nearby' includes 'nearby with public transit')?
>=20
> I'd called my hotel last week to ask about bag-wash (fluf-n-fold) =
places, that do laundry and charge by the kilo/pound/bag.  The staff =
told me there is one super-close that charges around 4.5 euro per kilo =
for 2-day service, an extra euro or two for next-day service. They said =
it is so close the staff would be happy to take my stuff there for me.
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> They promised to give me the info on a paper when I checked in but I =
don't see it.  I'll call when they're not so busy to get it.
>=20
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> Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself =
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Hi All,

After a couple of discussions with IETFers who are first-time visitors to B=
erlin, it appears to me that some folks may not be aware that Berlin is rea=
lly a multi-* city :) Besides being the most multicultural city in the coun=
try, it is also primarily a multi-center city. That is, do not expect a sin=
gle "downtown" area. Instead you can sample Berlin life by visiting 5 disti=
nct areas to a get a better flavor of the city, at least for starters.=20

The area around Savignyplatz (http://her.is/LnMMS) is one of these centers =
(Charlottenburg), close to the shopping area of Ku'damm. It is easily reach=
ed from the IETF hotel. It used to be the place to be back when West Berlin=
 was an island, and still features some of the best bars and restaurants in=
 town. Don't miss the originals, such as Schwarzes Cafe (http://www.schwarz=
escafe-berlin.de), a Berlin institution open 24 hours; Zwiebelfisch (http:/=
/www.zwiebelfisch-berlin.de) is nearby, as is Terzo Mondo (http://www.terzo=
mondo.de) and Diener (http://www.diener-tattersall.de) as are dozens of pla=
ces to eat and drink. The A-Trane is a block away (http://www.a-trane.de/);=
 Quasimodo (http://www.quasimodo.de/) is also within walking distance, but =
it's closed for the summer. Next time ;)=20

The area around Kastanienallee (Eberswalder Str., Oderberger Str., Mauerpar=
k, Kulturbrauerei; http://her.is/TBTZS) offers a good first sample of life =
in Prenzlauer Berg (P'berg). Prater (favorite beer garden was already menti=
oned; http://www.pratergarten.de). The whole area is packed with restaurant=
s with all kinds of cuisines from Asian to Middle East to Russian to Vegan,=
 you name it. For the hamburger/steak addicts, The Bird (http://www.thebird=
inberlin.com) is not far away either.=20

Bergmannstrasse (and environs) in Kreuzberg (http://her.is/UZoUj) is also t=
o be considered for a visit after a busy IETF day. Some really cool places =
include the Knofi delicatessen (http://www.knofi.de), best-of-class Berlin =
street food (http://mustafas.de and http://www.curry36.de), as well as the =
two Greek restaurants in the area: "Z" (http://www.restaurant-z.de) and Dim=
okritos (http://www.dimokritos.de). There're some good and alternative shop=
ping opportunities while you're here, consider browsing around. If you have=
 more time, the Viktoriapark has a nice memorial on top of a small hill wit=
h a great vista of all of Berlin.

In Kreuzberg, you can also find one of the most active evening scenes aroun=
d Orannienstrasse next to Kottbusser Tor (http://her.is/VkwLS). This part o=
f town is perhaps not as polished as one would imagine, but it does feature=
 some of the best burritos (http://www.santaberlin.com) and burgers (Hasir =
Burger) in town. This is part of the alternative side of Berlin and home to=
 the famous SO36 club (http://so36.de), among everything else.=20

Finally, you simply cannot leave Berlin without visiting the Friedrichstras=
se - Oranienburger Strasse - Hackescher Markt Triangle (includes the Museum=
 Island area): http://her.is/TbXCj. This is a well-known tourist area in Be=
rlin so I won't list any particular places, besides perhaps the area around=
 Bode Museum where there is public dancing every day by the Spree and a fre=
e Sunday evening concert: http://www.sonntagskonzerte.de. You can find othe=
r open-air concerts/events at http://www.visitberlin.de/de/artikel/open-air=
-veranstaltungen-ohne-eintritt (and http://www.visitberlin.de/en/keyword/op=
en-air-concerts-theatre in English)

There are several walking tours you can take (as soon as the temperature co=
ols down a bit), but this one http://goo.gl/maps/6tgx2 will take you by som=
e of the most prominent buildings and memorials, including having a look at=
 the Spree, the German Chancellery, the Parliament (Reichstag, make sure yo=
u visit the dome before going home), the Brandenburg Gate, the Soviet War M=
emorial, Pariser Platz etc., the Holocaust memorial, the Science Center Med=
izintechnik Berlin (free; http://www.sciencecenterberlin.de) and you will e=
nd up in Potsdamer Platz and the Sony Center.

Last but not least, do take the 3-hour boat trip around the Spree and the C=
anal. There are several companies that offer different trips, but my favori=
te is http://www.reederei-riedel.de/index.php?Sub=3DSCFA&Target=3DFahrten&I=
d=3D5#, esp. the one that starts at 7 pm. It can be the perfect alternative=
 to the social event for those without a ticket ;)

I could go on, but, hey you only got a week :)

Herzlich Willkommen :)

Best regards,

Kostas



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under 10=80, interesting sodas.

http://weilands-wellfood.de/

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Sorry if this has already been answered... 
Any recommendation(s) please -at walking distance from main hotel?


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For folks looking for gluten free and vegan/vegetarian food near the venue
here is what I found.  I think both gf & vegan are a bit difficult here.
 If you ask you can get gluten free bread at the Intercontinental.  It
seems the major hotels may be the best bet for gluten free options.  I had
a salad last nite at a bier garten and got glutend by the salad dressing
and/or crumbs from the piece of bread they put beside my salad.

Mary

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These are two places I have found from google maps.  They are reasonable
walking distance;

Vegan/Gluten-free:  http://www.lamanoverdeberlin.com/

Pizza (including GF): http://www.simela.de/
Map: http://www.simela.de/map.html

They both have decent reviews in trip advisor.  I'll let folks know if/when
I go to either.

Mary.

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I don't have any personal contacts, but I visited the museum today, and if =
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Regards,

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Can you forward to ietf attendee list?

If anyone has any personal contacts with someone in the Gaming Museum,
could you please contact me?

Danke.

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Hi,


 


I don't have any personal contacts, but I visit=
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ders and the early days of home computers and game consoles is your cup of =
tea, I highly recommend it :)


 


Regards,


 


Christer



 






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Can you forward to ietf attendee list?



If anyone has any personal contacts with someone in the Gaming Museum, 

could you please contact me?



Danke.



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Allison Mankin found http://www.essenfassen.com (Knesebeckstra=DFe 89) =
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http://www.essenfassen.com =
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 Long but walkable at 2 km (about as far past the zoo train stop as =
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Matt


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For folks looking for gluten free and =
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both gf & vegan are a bit difficult here.  If you ask you =
can get gluten free bread at the Intercontinental.  It seems the =
major hotels may be the best bet for gluten free options.  I had a =
salad last nite at a bier garten and got glutend by the salad =
dressing and/or crumbs from the piece of bread they put =
beside my salad.



Mary

---------- Forwarded message =
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These are two places I have found from =
google maps.  They are reasonable walking =
distance;

Vegan/Gluten-free:  http://www.lamanoverdeberlin.com/





Pizza (including GF): http://www.simela.de/ 





They both have decent reviews in trip advisor. =
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http://glutenfreiberlin.wordpress.com/glutenfrei-map/

On 7/27/13 8:57 PM, Mary Barnes wrote:
>
>
> For folks looking for gluten free and vegan/vegetarian food near the
> venue here is what I found.  I think both gf & vegan are a bit difficult
> here.  If you ask you can get gluten free bread at the Intercontinental.
>   It seems the major hotels may be the best bet for gluten free options.
>   I had a salad last nite at a bier garten and got glutend by the salad
> dressing and/or crumbs from the piece of bread they put beside my salad.
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> walking distance;
>
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>
> Pizza (including GF): http://www.simela.de/
> Map: http://www.simela.de/map.html
>
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Has anybody located a nearby supermarket yet?


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On 28.7.2013, at 8.47, Ted Lemon  wrote:
> Has anybody located a nearby supermarket yet?

Nearest one I have found is Kaiser's, here:

Wittenbergplatz 4, 10789 Berlin, Germany
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It's about 600 meters away from IC or so.

Cheers,

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Le 2013-07-27 18:10, Reinaldo Penno a écrit :
> my room is at 24.5C. I called the concierge and followed their
> instructions but to no avail. They told me I should open a window...Nice
> start.
>
> Anybody else going through the same issue?

Yes. Mine is at 25.9 with AC at max. I just realized that the window was 
open. I closed it to experiment.

Yesterday in a small meeting room with ~15 people it was like a sauna.

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> Yesterday in a small meeting room with ~15 people it was like a sauna.

It's a comfortable 22 - 23C in Belleview at the moment before IEPG.

It'll be interesting to see how that changes by the end of the session.

Ray


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On Jul 28, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Simon Perreault  =
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> Yes. Mine is at 25.9 with AC at max. I just realized that the window was =
open. I closed it to experiment.

Window+AC is not a good combination.   I think the problem is that the HVAC=
 here is correctly sized for a worst-case scenario that's slightly cooler t=
han the weather this weekend.   Also make sure you keep your blackout curta=
ins closed when you aren't in the room=97you will not get perfect efficienc=
y, but some energy will radiate back out the windows this way, and given th=
at we're close to the edge, it will probably make a difference.


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I was told there is something near the Zoo train station.

Of coursse, today is Sunday so many places are closed.

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On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Ted Lemon wrote:

> Has anybody located a nearby supermarket yet?
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On Jul 27, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Reinaldo Penno  wrote:

> Hi,
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> my room is at 24.5C. I called the concierge and followed their instructio=
ns but to no avail. They told me I should open a window...Nice start.

What hotel are you in?

I am in the InterContinental. My room is at this instant at 22.6, and has b=
een comfortable the entire week (I arrived last Tuesday). I think it's fair=
 to say that Europeans are used to less AC than Americans; they let it go a=
 little warmer. But 25 would be warmer than I might expect, and 29 is a lot=
 higher.

I would expect, if you're in the IC, that it's something about the settings=
 in your room.

> Anybody else going through the same issue?
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Supermarkets at train stations/airports etc. are open on Sunday. Ditto for =
small shops. The super market across from the Zoo (http://goo.gl/maps/Qe6F5=
) should be open after 11 am today.

Best regards,

Kostas


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|I was told there is something near the Zoo train station.
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Can someone recommend a good restaurant near InterContinental for
Eisbein (Berliner's knuckle of ham) w/ sour cabbage?

Danke,

Jerry

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Hi,

>> Has anybody located a nearby supermarket yet?
> Nearest one I have found is Kaiser's, here:
>
> Wittenbergplatz 4, 10789 Berlin, Germany

I went there yesterday evening. It's closed on Sundays, but for the rest 
of the days it's open from 7AM to midnight.

Gluten-free and Lactose-free food is specifically labeled, and prices 
are cheap, although by japanese standard.

Cheers,
Jean


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On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 08:02:49AM +0000, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> think it's fair to say that Europeans are used to less AC than
> Americans; they let it go a little warmer. But 25 would be warmer
> than I might expect, and 29 is a lot higher.

The UI on my thermostat, at least, is pretty strange.  You apparently
don't actually set the temp, as near as I can tell.  My current theory
is that you're saying "cooler", "cooler still", and so on.

My room was 27°C when I arrived yesterday.  I fiddled with it until I
figured out that if I kept pressing the "-" button, it started working
hard.  It was 22°C when I pressed the "+" button to get it to stop
trying to cool hard.

I notice also that the housekeeping staff apparently open the windows
as a matter of habit.  Don't forget to close it.

A

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I was told earlier that Germany has an energy conservation law that
requires AC not to cool below 7=B0C below outdoor ambient.  So it'll be
pretty warm today, but should be more comfortable during the week.


On 28 July 2013 01:12, Andrew Sullivan  wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 08:02:49AM +0000, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> > think it's fair to say that Europeans are used to less AC than
> > Americans; they let it go a little warmer. But 25 would be warmer
> > than I might expect, and 29 is a lot higher.
>
> The UI on my thermostat, at least, is pretty strange.  You apparently
> don't actually set the temp, as near as I can tell.  My current theory
> is that you're saying "cooler", "cooler still", and so on.
>
> My room was 27=B0C when I arrived yesterday.  I fiddled with it until I
> figured out that if I kept pressing the "-" button, it started working
> hard.  It was 22=B0C when I pressed the "+" button to get it to stop
> trying to cool hard.
>
> I notice also that the housekeeping staff apparently open the windows
> as a matter of habit.  Don't forget to close it.
>
> A
>
> --
> Andrew Sullivan
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I was told earlier that Germany has an energy conservation=
 law that requires AC not to cool below 7=B0C below outdoor ambient. =A0So =
it'll be pretty warm today, but should be more comfortable during the w=
eek.




On 28 July 20=
13 01:12, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrot=
e:


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 08=
:02:49AM +0000, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:

> think it's fair to say that Europeans are used to less AC than

> Americans; they let it go a little warmer. But 25 would be warmer

> than I might expect, and 29 is a lot higher.




The UI on my thermostat, at least, is pretty strange. =A0You apparent=
ly

don't actually set the temp, as near as I can tell. =A0My current theor=
y

is that you're saying "cooler", "cooler still", and=
 so on.



My room was 27=B0C when I arrived yesterday. =A0I fiddled with it until I
figured out that if I kept pressing the "-" button, it started wo=
rking

hard. =A0It was 22=B0C when I pressed the "+" button to get it to=
 stop

trying to cool hard.



I notice also that the housekeeping staff apparently open the windows

as a matter of habit. =A0Don't forget to close it.



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Hi,
This link may be interesting,

http://www.berlin-vegan.de/berlin/restaurantkritiken/

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> energy conservation law that requires AC not to cool below 7=C2=B0C =
below outdoor ambient

Germans have strange laws, but I think this is just a good practice =
recommendation from occupational health and safety considerations.

The general maximum workplace temperature is defined*) as 26 =C2=B0C =
(min 20 =C2=B0C for light, sitting work).

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provided, e.g., supplying water and loosening up the clothing =
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(=E2=89=A4 7 K below outside is* good practice, in a country that =
overwhelmingly doesn't need much cooling and where people actually go =
through extensive uncooled spaces on their way from work and back.)

Of course, as an international organization, we should be applying ISO =
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Austrian restaurant & wine store. Good food, *excellent* selection of =
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On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:12:43AM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Of course, as an international organization, we should be applying ISO 7730.

Hmm... searching on google for "ISO 7730" reveals:

 > In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org. 

IMHO: if at all possible, i would lke to stick to standards that
do not try to make themselves as unavailable to the public as
commercially possible.


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There is also fan speed via thermostat that can be controlled. I have it mi=
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On Jul 27, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Reinaldo Penno  wrote:

> Hi,
>=20
> my room is at 24.5C. I called the concierge and followed their instructio=
ns but to no avail. They told me I should open a window...Nice start.

What hotel are you in?

I am in the InterContinental. My room is at this instant at 22.6, and has b=
een comfortable the entire week (I arrived last Tuesday). I think it's fair=
 to say that Europeans are used to less AC than Americans; they let it go a=
 little warmer. But 25 would be warmer than I might expect, and 29 is a lot=
 higher.

I would expect, if you're in the IC, that it's something about the settings=
 in your room.

> Anybody else going through the same issue?
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Hi,

There is an Ullrich next to the Zoologische Garten station.

Regards,

Christer

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Hi,

>> Has anybody located a nearby supermarket yet?
> Nearest one I have found is Kaiser's, here:
>
> Wittenbergplatz 4, 10789 Berlin, Germany

I went there yesterday evening. It's closed on Sundays, but for the rest of=
 the days it's open from 7AM to midnight.

Gluten-free and Lactose-free food is specifically labeled, and prices are c=
heap, although by japanese standard.

Cheers,
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On 7/28/2013 3:12 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> I notice also that the housekeeping staff apparently open the windows 
> as a matter of habit. Don't forget to close it. A 

Andrew, thank you for the clue. I just checked my Intercontinental room, 
and the window WAS open.

Spencer


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Hi,

Karl-Marx-Allee 93a (in the corner of K-M Allee and Friedenstrasse), next t=
o the Weberwiese U-bahn station (U5 line from Alexanderplatz)

http://www.bing.com/maps/?mm_embed=3Dmap&cp=3D52.51786920966563~13.44203813=
9537221&lvl=3D15&sty=3Dr&where1=3DKarl-Marx-allee+93A%2C+10243+Berlin&form=
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http://www.computerspielemuseum.de/1210_Home.htm

Regards,

Christer

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Hi,

Can you also include the location of Gaming Museum?

Regards,

Maaz

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Hi,

I don't have any personal contacts, but I visited the museum today, and if =
a nostalgic trip back to the days of Space Invaders and the early days of h=
ome computers and game consoles is your cup of tea, I highly recommend it :=
)

Regards,

Christer



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Subject: Gaming Museum

Can you forward to ietf attendee list?

If anyone has any personal contacts with someone in the Gaming Museum,
could you please contact me?

Danke.

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63~13.442038139537221&lvl=3D15&sty=3Dr&where1=3DKarl-Marx-allee=
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.


http://www.computerspiel=
emuseum.de/1210_Home.htm


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Regards,


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Christer


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L=E4hetetty: 28. hein=E4kuuta 2013 1:57

Vastaanottaja: Christer Holmberg

Kopio: 87 Attendees

Aihe: Re: [87attendees] Fwd: Gaming Museum






 






Hi,=







 






Can you also include the location of Gaming Muse=
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Maaz






 

















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To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>; 87 Attendees <87attendees=
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Sent: Saturday, 27 July 2013, 22:05

Subject: Re: [87attendees] Fwd: Gaming Museum






 










=
Hi,






=
 






=
I don't have any personal contacts, but I visited the museum today, and if =
a nostalgic trip back to the days of Space Invaders and the
 early days of home computers and game consoles is your cup of tea, I highl=
y recommend it :)






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=
Regards,






=
 






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Christer






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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 15:28:21 +0200

From: Zita Wenzel <zita@psg.com><=
br>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Subject: Gaming Museum



Can you forward to ietf attendee list?



If anyone has any personal contacts with someone in the Gaming Museum, 

could you please contact me?



Danke.



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For OpenTable users from other countries (or at least the US): Apparently
your account on opentable.com is not the same as having an account on
opentable.de.  Fortunately, on OT.de, you don't have to have an account to
make a reservation.

--Richard


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> Austrian restaurant & wine store. Good food, *excellent* selection of
> Austrian wines. Michelin bib gourmand. Kantstrasse 153, towards
> Savignyplatz. Recommended. Can reserve via OpenTable. No A/C in dining room
> (but some fans), request outside seating; street has some traffic & street
> life, but not very distracting.
>
> http://www.ottenthal.com/start.html
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 an account to make a reservation.


--Richard


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etapp.com> wrote:


Austrian restaurant & wine store. Good f=
ood, *excellent* selection of Austrian wines. Michelin bib gourmand. Kantst=
rasse 153, towards Savignyplatz. Recommended. Can reserve via OpenTable. No=
 A/C in dining room (but some fans), request outside seating; street has so=
me traffic & street life, but not very distracting.




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OpenTable reservations: http://www.ottenthal.com/c_reservierung.php



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I came back to my room after housekeeping and my window was also open.
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> On 7/28/2013 3:12 AM, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
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>> I notice also that the housekeeping staff apparently open the windows as
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> Can someone recommend a good restaurant near InterContinental for
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On 07/28/2013 06:05 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:12:43AM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>> Of course, as an international organization, we should be applying ISO 7730.
> 
> Hmm... searching on google for "ISO 7730" reveals:
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>  > In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org. 
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> IMHO: if at all possible, i would lke to stick to standards that
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I too would like to see more air-conditioning induced chilling effects
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>From a search at ChillingEffects.org, it seems ISO has filed at least
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For planning your moves in Berlin I would recommend the mobile app "FahrInfo=
 Berlin".

It builds decent routes using Berlin mass transit, gives good time estimates=
, is integrated with Maps to show walking parts of the route.

After a day of usage I like it ;)

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My experience with the AC is similar - my room stays comfortably cool. But =
there was one day when it was getting too warm and pushing - didn't help.

I looked carefully at the somewhat cryptic controls. The stick figure was i=
n the house so AC should be on. I tried the fan button. "Auto" flashed on a=
fter each push but only stayed on after the third push. Cooling started!=20

The AC is capable of making my room too chilly.

So check the fan setting if your Intercontinental room isn't cooling.

The staff hasn't opened my window. It has no screen & has a hang tag sugges=
ting keeping it closed to keep bugs out.

YMMV- I'm on the park side of the hotel and don't get afternoon sun directl=
y in my window.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2013, at 10:13 AM, "Andrew Sullivan"  wr=
ote:

> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 08:02:49AM +0000, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
>> think it's fair to say that Europeans are used to less AC than
>> Americans; they let it go a little warmer. But 25 would be warmer
>> than I might expect, and 29 is a lot higher.
>=20
> The UI on my thermostat, at least, is pretty strange.  You apparently
> don't actually set the temp, as near as I can tell.  My current theory
> is that you're saying "cooler", "cooler still", and so on.
>=20
> My room was 27=B0C when I arrived yesterday.  I fiddled with it until I
> figured out that if I kept pressing the "-" button, it started working
> hard.  It was 22=B0C when I pressed the "+" button to get it to stop
> trying to cool hard.
>=20
> I notice also that the housekeeping staff apparently open the windows
> as a matter of habit.  Don't forget to close it.
>=20
> A
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Hi everyone,
The IETF smartphone app appears to be nice from what I can see, but for 
some reason, google determined that it is "Incompatible with my device" 
and therefore refuses to install it. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S3, 
fully updated, so this is very weird.

Did anyone encounter such a problem before?

Pierre-Alain

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On Jul 28, 2013, at 12:05, Toerless Eckert  wrote:

>> removed 1 result(s)

Hmm, google quickly found a copy of ISO 7730 for me, including running =
code (in BASIC).

> 410 IF ABS(XN-XF)>EPS GOTO 350

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Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten

PS.: Did anyone bring an Anemometer?


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I'm at the intercontinental. I expect an international geared hotel to cool r=
ooms to 20C.=20

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 28, 2013, at 10:02, "Fred Baker (fred)"  wrote:

>=20
> On Jul 27, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Reinaldo Penno  wrote:
>=20
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> my room is at 24.5C. I called the concierge and followed their instructio=
ns but to no avail. They told me I should open a window...Nice start.
>=20
> What hotel are you in?
>=20
> I am in the InterContinental. My room is at this instant at 22.6, and has b=
een comfortable the entire week (I arrived last Tuesday). I think it's fair t=
o say that Europeans are used to less AC than Americans; they let it go a li=
ttle warmer. But 25 would be warmer than I might expect, and 29 is a lot hig=
her.
>=20
> I would expect, if you're in the IC, that it's something about the setting=
s in your room.
>=20
>> Anybody else going through the same issue?
>>=20
>> thanks,
>>=20
>> Reinaldo
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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>>=20
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Hi,

On Jul 28, 2013, at 14:30, Reinaldo Penno  wrote:
> I'm at the intercontinental. I expect an international geared hotel to =
cool rooms to 20C.=20

to put things in perspective: the all-time temperature record for Berlin =
is 37.something degrees. We are not far off, and were actually =
forecasted to hit that today.

Engineering the AC for the absolute extreme isn't cost effective. =
(Although it would sure be nice.)

Lars

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Lucky you are. You have an AC in your room and it makes temerature in the ro=
om at least a bit lower than in the streets. ;)

Look from the relative point of view, do not stick to absolute figures.

dol@=20
@mobile iPad


28.07.2013, =D7 14:30, Reinaldo Penno  =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1=
=CC(=C1):

> I'm at the intercontinental. I expect an international geared hotel to coo=
l rooms to 20C.=20
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 28, 2013, at 10:02, "Fred Baker (fred)"  wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>> On Jul 27, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Reinaldo Penno  wrote:
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>>> Hi,
>>>=20
>>> my room is at 24.5C. I called the concierge and followed their instructi=
ons but to no avail. They told me I should open a window...Nice start.
>>=20
>> What hotel are you in?
>>=20
>> I am in the InterContinental. My room is at this instant at 22.6, and has=
 been comfortable the entire week (I arrived last Tuesday). I think it's fai=
r to say that Europeans are used to less AC than Americans; they let it go a=
 little warmer. But 25 would be warmer than I might expect, and 29 is a lot h=
igher.
>>=20
>> I would expect, if you're in the IC, that it's something about the settin=
gs in your room.
>>=20
>>> Anybody else going through the same issue?
>>>=20
>>> thanks,
>>>=20
>>> Reinaldo
>>>=20
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>>>=20
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Hello all,

I had the same problem. I get a message: "The app is not available in
your region".

My Google account is from Brazil. My cellphone is a Galaxy S3 too.

If the .apk is available for download, we would be able to install by
enabling install from non trusted repositories.

Edwin Cordeiro
NIC.br


Em 28/07/13 14:28, pad escreveu:
> Hi everyone,
> The IETF smartphone app appears to be nice from what I can see, but
> for some reason, google determined that it is "Incompatible with my
> device" and therefore refuses to install it. I'm using a Samsung
> Galaxy S3, fully updated, so this is very weird.
>
> Did anyone encounter such a problem before?
>
> Pierre-Alain
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I just find my badge is printed two-sided. Thanks for the
optimization, e.g. easier to identify big names in IETF.  But make
sure that you put the agenda brochure inside the folding so that the
optimization works.

-z

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On Jul 28, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Wendy Seltzer  wrote:
> From a search at ChillingEffects.org, it seems ISO has filed at least
> 380 separate complaints. See also
> https://www.google.com/transparencyreport/removals/copyright/owners/22596=
/ISO/

Maybe it's time for a European Carl Malamud to surface...


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FYI, if you are a runner and interested to connect with other people to go =
running with or to share information about routes to run, there is an "ietf=
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https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-runners

If you look at the archives you will see several messages already about rou=
tes to run in Berlin.  There are a couple of us who may be out for runs at =
6:00am on some of the mornings.

Dan

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Hi,

subject says it all. Found in the second row with tables on the right
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Blue smiley means you volunteered to be helpful to newcomers and others.


On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Vinayak Hegde  wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Cao,Zhen  wrote:
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There is a great beer/bier garten in the Tiergarten Park......really just a=
 5 min walk from the back of the Inter Conti.

Should  you decide to venture there.......and should there be a group of us=
......we might want to express our inclusive spirit by joining in on this t=
raditional beer hall song.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du,_du_liegst_mir_im_Herzen

And as sung by Marlene Dietrich

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfQ9VYpxKtFk



Lyrics in German:
Du, du liegst mir im Herzen
du, du liegst mir im Sinn.
Du, du machst mir viel Schmerzen,
wei=DFt nicht wie gut ich dir bin.
Ja, ja, ja, ja, wei=DFt nicht wie gut ich dir bin.

So, so wie ich dich liebe
so, so liebe auch mich.
Die, die z=E4rtlichsten Triebe
f=FChl' ich allein nur f=FCr dich.
Ja, ja, ja, ja, f=FChl' ich allein nur f=FCr dich.

Doch, doch darf ich dir trauen
dir, dir mit leichtem Sinn?
Du, du kannst auf mich bauen
wei=DFt ja wie gut ich dir bin!
Ja, ja, ja, ja, wei=DFt ja wie gut ich dir bin!

Und, und wenn in der Ferne,
mir, mir dein Bild erscheint,
dann, dann w=FCnscht ich so gerne
da=DF uns die Liebe vereint.
Ja, ja, ja, ja, da=DF uns die Liebe vereint.

Lyrics in English:
You, you are in my heart.
you, you are in my mind.
You, you cause me much pain,
You don't know how good I am for you.
Yes, yes, yes, yes you don't know how good I am for you.

So, as I love you
so, so love me too.
The most tender desires
I alone feel only for you.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I alone feel only for you.

But, but may I trust you
you, you with a light heart?
You, you know you can rely on me
You do know how good I am!
Yes, yes, yes, yes You do know how good I am!

And, and if in the distance,
it seems to me like your picture,
then, then I wish so much
that we were united in love.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, that we were united in love.

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There is a great beer/bie=
r garten in the Tiergarten Park……really just a 5 min walk from =
the back of the Inter Conti.


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Should  you decide t=
o venture there…….and should there be a group of us…̷=
0;we might want to express our inclusive spirit by joining in on this tradi=
tional beer
 hall song.


 <=
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Du=
,_du_liegst_mir_im_Herzen


 <=
/p>

And as sung by Marlene Di=
etrich


 <=
/p>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfQ9VYpxKtF=
k


 <=
/p>

 <=
/p>

Lyrics in German:

Du, du liegst mir im Herzen

du, du liegst mir im Sinn.

Du, du machst mir viel Schmerzen,

wei=DFt nicht wie gut ich dir bin.

Ja, ja, ja, ja, wei=DFt nicht wie gut ich dir bin.


So, so wie ich dich liebe

so, so liebe auch mich.

Die, die z=E4rtlichsten Triebe

f=FChl' ich allein nur f=FCr dich.

Ja, ja, ja, ja, f=FChl' ich allein nur f=FCr dich.


Doch, doch darf ich dir trauen

dir, dir mit leichtem Sinn?

Du, du kannst auf mich bauen

wei=DFt ja wie gut ich dir bin!

Ja, ja, ja, ja, wei=DFt ja wie gut ich dir bin!


Und, und wenn in der Ferne,

mir, mir dein Bild erscheint,

dann, dann w=FCnscht ich so gerne

da=DF uns die Liebe vereint.

Ja, ja, ja, ja, da=DF uns die Liebe vereint.


Lyrics in English:

You, you are in my heart.

you, you are in my mind.

You, you cause me much pain,

You don't know how good I am for you.

Yes, yes, yes, yes you don't know how good I am for you.<=
/p>

So, as I love you

so, so love me too.

The most tender desires

I alone feel only for you.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, I alone feel only for you.


But, but may I trust you

you, you with a light heart?

You, you know you can rely on me

You do know how good I am!

Yes, yes, yes, yes You do know how good I am!


And, and if in the distance,

it seems to me like your picture,

then, then I wish so much

that we were united in love.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, that we were united in love.










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A big thumbs up for the beer garden behind the hotel over the river bridge. D=
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Hi Lyndon,

I'm told it is Picobello
http://www.picobello-berlin.de/filialen.htm

At 4:01 AM -0400 7/28/13, Lyndon Ong wrote:

>   Hi Randall,
>
>   Please let us know if there is such a place, I called earlier 
> today but no one seemed to know of it.
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   Lyndon
>
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>   Subject: Re: [87attendees] Any self-service laundromat nearby?
>
>   At 12:32 AM +0200 7/27/13, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>
>>    (This question seems to get asked at almost every IETF; it should
>>   probably be put in the Wiki for each meeting.)
>>
>>    Is there any self-service laundromat anywhere near the IETF
>>   hotel(s) (where 'nearby' includes 'nearby with public transit')?
>
>   I'd called my hotel last week to ask about bag-wash (fluf-n-fold) 
> places, that do laundry and charge by the kilo/pound/bag.  The 
> staff told me there is one super-close that charges around 4.5 euro 
> per kilo for 2-day service, an extra euro or two for next-day 
> service.
>   They said it is so close the staff would be happy to take my stuff 
> there for me.
>
>   They promised to give me the info on a paper when I checked in but 
> I don't see it.  I'll call when they're not so busy to get it.
>
>
>   --
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Went there on Sunday 2 PM, nice place indeed even if the beer could have be=
en cooler. Nice pretzel with sweet mustard ;-)

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> A big thumbs up for the beer garden behind the hotel over the river bridg=
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Agreed!!!!

Writing to you from there now =3D)

On Jul 28, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Tim Chown  wrote:

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On Jul 28, 2013, at 10:30 PM, "Jon Hudson"  wrote:

> Agreed!!!!
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> Writing to you from there now =3D)
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> On Jul 28, 2013, at 8:59 PM, Tim Chown  wrote:
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>> A big thumbs up for the beer garden behind the hotel over the river brid=
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Hello,

Will there be IETF breakfast in Berlin?

Alex


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On Jul 28, 2013, at 11:24 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:

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On Jul 28, 2013, at 11:59 AM, "Eggert, Lars"  wrote:

> Austrian restaurant & wine store. Good food, *excellent* selection of Aust=
rian wines. Michelin bib gourmand. Kantstrasse 153, towards Savignyplatz. Re=
commended. Can reserve via OpenTable. No A/C in dining room (but some fans),=
 request outside seating; street has some traffic & street life, but not ver=
y distracting.=20
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> http://www.ottenthal.com/start.html
> OpenTable reservations: http://www.ottenthal.com/c_reservierung.php

Good recommendation, Lars. We went there tonight and enjoyed it. 80 euros ou=
t the door for 3 of us w/o wine. Staff speaks great English and has English m=
enus available (with same stuff as German menus).

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Thanks Basil,=0A=0Abut there is no luck involved since this hotel is paid (=
and expensive), therefore I expect a high level of service. =C2=A0=0A=0A-RP=
=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Basil Dolmatov =0ATo: Reinaldo Penno  =0ACc: "87attendee=
s@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>; Fred Baker (fred)  =0AS=
ent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 2:50 PM=0ASubject: Re: [87attendees] Temperature=
 in Intercontinental Rooms=0A =0A=0ALucky you are. You have an AC in your r=
oom and it makes temerature in the room at least a bit lower than in the st=
reets. ;)=0A=0ALook from the relative point of view, do not stick to absolu=
te figures.=0A=0Adol@ =0A@mobile iPad=0A=0A=0A28.07.2013, =D0=B2 14:30, Rei=
naldo Penno  =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB(=
=D0=B0):=0A=0A> I'm at the intercontinental. I expect an international gear=
ed hotel to cool rooms to 20C. =0A> =0A> Sent from my iPhone=0A> =0A> On Ju=
l 28, 2013, at 10:02, "Fred Baker (fred)"  wrote:=0A> =0A>>=
 =0A>> On Jul 27, 2013, at 6:10 PM, Reinaldo Penno  wrot=
e:=0A>> =0A>>> Hi,=0A>>> =0A>>> my room is at 24.5C. I called the concierge=
 and followed their instructions but to no avail. They told me I should ope=
n a window...Nice start.=0A>> =0A>> What hotel are you in?=0A>> =0A>> I am =
in the InterContinental. My room is at this instant at 22.6, and has been c=
omfortable the entire week (I arrived last Tuesday). I think it's fair to s=
ay that Europeans are used to less AC than Americans; they let it go a litt=
le warmer. But 25 would be warmer than I might expect, and 29 is a lot high=
er.=0A>> =0A>> I would expect, if you're in the IC, that it's something abo=
ut the settings in your room.=0A>> =0A>>> Anybody else going through the sa=
me issue?=0A>>> =0A>>> thanks,=0A>>> =0A>>> Reinaldo=0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> =
=0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> ________________________________________=
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Thanks Basil,

<=
div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'Courier Ne=
w', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; =
font-style: normal; ">but there is no luck involved since this hotel =
is paid (and expensive), therefore I expect a high level of service.  =


-RP


  
 
 
 
   From: Basil Dolmatov <vdolmatov@gmail.com>
 To: Reinaldo Penno <rapenno@yahoo.com>=
 
Cc: "87attendees@ietf=
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 Sent: Sunday, July =
28, 2013 2:50
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Lucky you are. You have an AC in your room and it=
 makes temerature in the room at least a bit lower than in the streets. ;)<=
br>
Look from the relative point of view, do not stick to absolute figur=
es.

dol@ 
@mobile iPad


28.07.2013, =D0=B2 14:30, Reina=
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=D0=BB(=D0=B0):

> I'm at the intercontinental. I expect an intern=
ational geared hotel to cool rooms to 20C. 
> 
> Sent from my i=
Phone
> 
> On Jul 28, 2013, at 10:02, "Fred Baker (fred)" <<=
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co.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 27, 2013, at=
 6:10 PM, Reinaldo Penno <rap=
enno@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>&=
gt; 
>>> my room is at 24.5C. I called the concierge and follow=
ed their instructions but to no avail. They told me I should open a window.=
..Nice start.
>> 
>> What hotel are you in?
>> <=
br>>> I am in the InterContinental. My room is at this instant at 22.=
6, and has been comfortable the entire week (I arrived last Tuesday). I thi=
nk it's fair to say that Europeans are used to less AC than Americans; they=
 let it go a little warmer. But 25 would be warmer than I might expect, and=
 29 is a lot higher.
>> 
>> I would expect, if you're in =
the IC, that it's something about the settings in your room.
>> >>> Anybody else going through the same issue?
>>> <=
br>>>> thanks,
>>> 
>>>
 Reinaldo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>=
; 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _____=
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No   Breakfast is included in guest room rate at intercontinental. =20

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We are piloting a NAT64/DNS64 service on the IETF network. To use this
service, connect to the SSID called "ietf-nat64".

IPv6 clients should use stateless autoconfiguration, and may use DHCPv6 to
retrieve name server information. Note that, like the other IETF networks,
name server information is not included in the router advertisements. As
this network is IPv6-only, clients will not get name server information
from IPv4. If your client does not support stateless DHCPv6, you will have
to configure your name server IP addresses manually to use DNS. This
network provides name servers at 2001:df8:0:5::16 and 2001:df8:0:5::17.

This service is provided so attendees can experience an IPv6-only network,
yet access IPv4-only services using an IPv6 to IPv4 NAT service. As with
all NAT services, this will provide users with connectivity to many or most
resources, however, some resources may not work. References listing many
services that will or will not work are located at:

http://wiki.test-ipv6.com/wiki/Main_Page

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnVbRg3DotzFdGVwZWlWeG5wXzVMcG5qczZEZloxWGc#gid=0

Please give feedback on this service. If you have specific issues with this
implementation of a NAT64 service, please let us know using any of the
usual ways to contact the NOC. And, of course, feel free to give feedback
about the standards to the appropriate working groups.

This pilot is provided through the following software and hardware:

Nominum is providing a caching name server to perform DNS64 translation.
A10 Networks is providing a network switch to perform wire-speed NAT64
translation.

The following people did the work to get this service up and running:

Ted Lemon
James Brister
Konstatin Dunaev
Jim Martin
Bjoern Zeeb
Colin Doyle
Chris Elliott


-- 
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chelliot@pobox.com
CCIE # 2013

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IPv6 c=
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ve name server information. Note that, like the other IETF networks, name s=
erver information is not included in the router advertisements. As this net=
work is IPv6-only, clients will not get name server information from IPv4. =
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name servers at 2001:df8:0:5::16 and 2001:df8:0:5::17.



This service is provided so attendees can experience an IPv6-only netwo=
rk, yet access IPv4-only services using an IPv6 to IPv4 NAT service. As wit=
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st resources, however, some resources may not work. References listing many=
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http://wiki.test-ipv6.com/=
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s know using any of the usual ways to contact the NOC. And, of course, feel=
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Kon=
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Colin Doyle
Chris Elliott




-- 
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I talked with the author of the app yesterday, and unfortunately we have no
clue as why this is happening (the app was definitively made available without
region restriction).

I sent the apk directly to the two persons that had the problem, so please
send me an email if you have a similar problem.

Thanks.

On 07/28/2013 03:15 PM, Edwin Cordeiro wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I had the same problem. I get a message: "The app is not available in your 
> region".
> 
> My Google account is from Brazil. My cellphone is a Galaxy S3 too.
> 
> If the .apk is available for download, we would be able to install by 
> enabling install from non trusted repositories.
> 
> Edwin Cordeiro NIC.br
> 
> 
> Em 28/07/13 14:28, pad escreveu:
>> Hi everyone, The IETF smartphone app appears to be nice from what I can 
>> see, but for some reason, google determined that it is "Incompatible
>> with my device" and therefore refuses to install it. I'm using a Samsung 
>> Galaxy S3, fully updated, so this is very weird.
>> 
>> Did anyone encounter such a problem before?
>> 
>> Pierre-Alain

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But it doesn't have the buses.
The best way to get to/from TXL is the X9 bus.
http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html

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On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:16 AM, "Derek Atkins"  wrote:

> On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 05:08 -0700, Basil Dolmatov wrote:
>> For planning your moves in Berlin I would recommend the mobile app "Fahr=
Info Berlin".
>>=20
>> It builds decent routes using Berlin mass transit, gives good time estim=
ates, is integrated with Maps to show walking parts of the route.
>>=20
>> After a day of usage I like it ;)
>>=20
>> dol@=20
>> @mobile iPad
>=20
> Seconded.
>=20
> It also allows you to save your route information for offline use, for
> those of us without data plans!
>=20
> -derek
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I'll add to the usual noise - I missed out and would appreciate any "spares".

Henning

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Hi,

I would like to buy.


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I would like to buy.


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On 29-07-13 07:14, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> Several people have said they wanted social tickets for their +1. I have one I'm willing to sell. I'll accept either $30 US (which is what I paid) or 22 Euro, which is approximately the conversion.

Please note that there exists a waiting list:

http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/87socialtickets#social_tickets_wanted

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This ticket has been sold.

Having posted this note, I'm informed that there is a waiting list. I obvio=
usly missed it. Folks who have tickets to sell can contact folks from the w=
aiting list at http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/87socialti=
ckets#social_tickets_wanted

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On 29.07.2013, at 6:57, Jakob Heitz  wrote:

> But it doesn't have the buses.
It have _all_ the buses,

This app put me in bus X15 in Potsdam. ;)

I recommend to trust it, sometimes it propose the routes I could not =
even imagine, but this route works and is the fastest one ;)

dol@
> The best way to get to/from TXL is the X9 bus.
> http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/index.html
>=20
> --
> Jakob Heitz.
>=20
>=20
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:16 AM, "Derek Atkins"  =
wrote:
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>> On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 05:08 -0700, Basil Dolmatov wrote:
>>> For planning your moves in Berlin I would recommend the mobile app =
"FahrInfo Berlin".
>>>=20
>>> It builds decent routes using Berlin mass transit, gives good time =
estimates, is integrated with Maps to show walking parts of the route.
>>>=20
>>> After a day of usage I like it ;)
>>>=20
>>> dol@=20
>>> @mobile iPad
>>=20
>> Seconded.
>>=20
>> It also allows you to save your route information for offline use, =
for
>> those of us without data plans!
>>=20
>> -derek
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As a remote participant this time I am very, very grateful
to those people who've stepped up and volunteered to be
Jabber scribes, and as a working group chair I know how
difficult it is to find people willing to do it.  And as
someone who's been a Jabber scribe a time or three I know
how much work it can be to get stuff typed in to allow
people not in the room to follow along in more-or-less
real time.

That said, in this, the first session of the first day of
meetings, I'm finding that the Jabber scribing is not all
that consistent.  For people not in the room, seeing "Slide
1," "Slide 2," and so on is not all that different from
just reading the slide set.  When people make comments at
the mike it's *really* helpful to capture the person's
name and the general gist of what they said.

Thanks again to the heroes who step up and volunteer.  You
make remote participation possible.

Melinda

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On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Melinda Shore =
 wrote:

> For people not in the room, seeing "Slide
> 1," "Slide 2," and so on is not all that different from
> just reading the slide set.

I'm surprised to hear this -- when I'm attending a meeting remotely I =
find it invaluable to know what slide we're on, especially if a speaker =
becomes animated, flips back and forth or skips one or more slides. =
Lacking number references, it can be difficult and distracting to regain =
sync when I lose track.

Is it just me? Is there a general consensus that calling out slides in =
the jabber room isn't useful?

--John=



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On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:01 AM, "John G. Scudder"  wrote:

> On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Melinda Shore =
 wrote:
>=20
>> For people not in the room, seeing "Slide
>> 1," "Slide 2," and so on is not all that different from
>> just reading the slide set.
>=20
> I'm surprised to hear this -- when I'm attending a meeting remotely I =
find it invaluable to know what slide we're on, especially if a speaker =
becomes animated, flips back and forth or skips one or more slides. =
Lacking number references, it can be difficult and distracting to regain =
sync when I lose track.
>=20
> Is it just me? Is there a general consensus that calling out slides in =
the jabber room isn't useful?

I think calling out slides is useful, for people who are also listening =
to the audio stream, for the reasons you mention.

 I think it would be extremely difficult to make the XMPP channel work =
well for people who are not also listening to the stream, unless we were =
to bring in actual transcriptionists.

Ben.


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On 7/29/2013 10:01 AM, John G. Scudder wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Melinda Shore  wrote:
>> For people not in the room, seeing "Slide
>> 1," "Slide 2," and so on is not all that different from
>> just reading the slide set.
>
> I'm surprised to hear this -- when I'm attending a meeting remotely I find it invaluable to know what slide we're on, especially if a speaker becomes animated, flips back and forth or skips one or more slides. Lacking number references, it can be difficult and distracting to regain sync when I lose track.
>
> Is it just me? Is there a general consensus that calling out slides in the jabber room isn't useful?



I took the concern to be scribing that was overly terse.  Not that 
citing the slide wasn't useful but that /only/ citing the slide isn't 
informative enough.

But this exchange starts to look like there's a nascent Guide for Jabber 
Scribing being implied here...

d/

-- 
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net

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IMO calling the slide numbers is extremely useful when following a
meeting over jabber.

I've been jabber scribe a couple of times, and capturing names is
usually the most frustrating part of this. For some reason, people tend
to either not say their name, or say it very quickly and/or in a very
low voice. Of course there are exceptions, but this is the norm.

cheers!

~Carlos

On 7/29/13 10:01 AM, John G. Scudder wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Melinda Shore  wrote:
>
>> For people not in the room, seeing "Slide
>> 1," "Slide 2," and so on is not all that different from
>> just reading the slide set.
> I'm surprised to hear this -- when I'm attending a meeting remotely I find it invaluable to know what slide we're on, especially if a speaker becomes animated, flips back and forth or skips one or more slides. Lacking number references, it can be difficult and distracting to regain sync when I lose track.
>
> Is it just me? Is there a general consensus that calling out slides in the jabber room isn't useful?
>
> --John
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On 7/29/13 12:01 AM, John G. Scudder wrote:
> Is it just me? Is there a general consensus that calling out slides
> in the jabber room isn't useful?

I was thinking of the case where someone is not listening to
the audio stream, either because they're in another room or
because they're listening to a different stream.  Calling
out the slides is useful, but calling out nothing but the
slides is not so useful for people who don't have audio.
So, this is not a request not to type slide numbers, but a
request to try to capture what's going on in the room.  (Yes,
that can often be difficult, but it's such a huge help to
those of us not on audio.)

Melinda

-- 
Melinda Shore
No Mountain Software
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On 07/29/13 09:52, Melinda Shore allegedly wrote:
> That said, in this, the first session of the first day of
> meetings, I'm finding that the Jabber scribing is not all
> that consistent.  For people not in the room, seeing "Slide
> 1," "Slide 2," and so on is not all that different from
> just reading the slide set.  When people make comments at
> the mike it's *really* helpful to capture the person's
> name and the general gist of what they said.
> 
> Thanks again to the heroes who step up and volunteer.  You
> make remote participation possible.

+1.  I really appreciate chatty jabberers.


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On 07/29/13 10:01, John G. Scudder allegedly wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Melinda Shore  wrote:
> 
>> For people not in the room, seeing "Slide
>> 1," "Slide 2," and so on is not all that different from
>> just reading the slide set.
> 
> I'm surprised to hear this -- when I'm attending a meeting remotely I find it invaluable to know what slide we're on, especially if a speaker becomes animated, flips back and forth or skips one or more slides. Lacking number references, it can be difficult and distracting to regain sync when I lose track.

Yes but "Slide 1" "Slide 2" is only good if the remote person is also
listening to audio - and even then it's marginally useful.  A jabberer
who records all the arguments is invaluable.

When I scribe I tend to take copious notes off in an editor, and when
there's a lull I clean them up and paste them into jabber.  I'm only a
minute or so behind and it gives people all the dirt.



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Jari,

According to what happened yesterday, I think the idea of the BOF =
posters
was really good. Some ideas:

- It is a good place for meeting. You can say "see you in the welcome
reception, near the poster". In fact, we were able to meet with the BOF
chairs and with a lot of the people interested on the BOF.

- Some people ask questions, and you can tell them about your proposal.

- In our case (TCM-TF), the poster was just next to the place where the
queue for taking food and drink began, so almost everyone saw the poster
:-).

So it was a nice idea (IMHO)

Thanks!

Jose

-----Mensaje original-----
De: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] =
En
nombre de IETF Chair
Enviado el: mi=E9rcoles, 24 de julio de 2013 8:22
Para: ietf-announce@ietf.org
CC: 87 attendees
Asunto: [87attendees] BOF posters in the welcome reception

I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out in =
Berlin.

At this meeting we have quite many BOFs. This is of course great, it is =
good
that people are bringing new work to the IETF. I look forward to the
discussions during the week and hopefully a number of new working groups
will eventually be created.

But we want as many people as possible to become involved in these =
efforts,
or at least provide their feedback during the week. So we have given an
opportunity for the BOFs to display a poster in the Welcome Reception
(Sunday 5pm to 7pm). If you are attending the reception, take a look at =
the
posters and look for topics that interest you. Someone running the BOF =
is
also likely standing by, so you can also get directly involved in
discussions, sign up to help, etc. We hope that this helps you all =
network
with others even more :-)

Jari Arkko
IETF Chair

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On 07/29/13 10:10, Scott Brim allegedly wrote:
> When I scribe I tend to take copious notes off in an editor, and when
> there's a lull I clean them up and paste them into jabber.  I'm only a
> minute or so behind and it gives people all the dirt.

If I were to write a scribing guide I would say: Why are you in the
room?  Why did you come to this meeting.  Write down everything you find
valuable and what you think someone else might find valuable.  If you
don't know a speaker's name, just say "someone" and another person in
the jabber room with you will probably fill it in -- just write it down.
 If you wish, write it all down and clean it up offline, posting to
jabber every minute or so.  Note to chairs: if someone scribes that way
you also have another notetaker.


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I'm using win7 to access "ietf-nat64", everything is working well as
expected

One interested thing I found is:

When I switch the SSID "ietf" to SSID "ietf-nat64", the old IPv4 address is
kept. 

And this IPv4 address is still valid for all the IPv4 applications.

Not sure that is a common case if you do same process

 

BRs

 

Gang

 

 

From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Elliott
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:09 AM
To: 87attendees@ietf.org
Subject: [87attendees] NAT64/DNS64 service on the IETF network

 

We are piloting a NAT64/DNS64 service on the IETF network. To use this
service, connect to the SSID called "ietf-nat64".

IPv6 clients should use stateless autoconfiguration, and may use DHCPv6 to
retrieve name server information. Note that, like the other IETF networks,
name server information is not included in the router advertisements. As
this network is IPv6-only, clients will not get name server information from
IPv4. If your client does not support stateless DHCPv6, you will have to
configure your name server IP addresses manually to use DNS. This network
provides name servers at 2001:df8:0:5::16 and 2001:df8:0:5::17.

This service is provided so attendees can experience an IPv6-only network,
yet access IPv4-only services using an IPv6 to IPv4 NAT service. As with all
NAT services, this will provide users with connectivity to many or most
resources, however, some resources may not work. References listing many
services that will or will not work are located at:


http://wiki.test-ipv6.com/wiki/Main_Page

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnVbRg3DotzFdGVwZWlWeG5wXzVMcG5
qczZEZloxWGc#gid=0

 

Please give feedback on this service. If you have specific issues with this
implementation of a NAT64 service, please let us know using any of the usual
ways to contact the NOC. And, of course, feel free to give feedback about
the standards to the appropriate working groups.

This pilot is provided through the following software and hardware:

Nominum is providing a caching name server to perform DNS64 translation.
A10 Networks is providing a network switch to perform wire-speed NAT64
translation.

The following people did the work to get this service up and running:

Ted Lemon
James Brister
Konstatin Dunaev
Jim Martin
Bjoern Zeeb
Colin Doyle   

Chris Elliott

 

 

-- 
Chris Elliott
chelliot@pobox.com

CCIE # 2013


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I’m using win7 to access “ietf-nat64”, everything =
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One interested thing I found is:
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And this IPv4 address is still valid for all the IPv4 =
applications.
Not sure that is a common case if you do same =
process
 
BRs
 
Gang
 
 
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87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On =
Behalf Of Chris Elliott
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:09 =
AM
To: 87attendees@ietf.org
Subject: [87attendees] =
NAT64/DNS64 service on the IETF network
 
We are =
piloting a NAT64/DNS64 service on the IETF network. To use this service, =
connect to the SSID called "ietf-nat64".

IPv6 clients =
should use stateless autoconfiguration, and may use DHCPv6 to retrieve =
name server information. Note that, like the other IETF networks, name =
server information is not included in the router advertisements. As this =
network is IPv6-only, clients will not get name server information from =
IPv4. If your client does not support stateless DHCPv6, you will have to =
configure your name server IP addresses manually to use DNS. This =
network provides name servers at 2001:df8:0:5::16 and =
2001:df8:0:5::17.

This service is provided so attendees can =
experience an IPv6-only network, yet access IPv4-only services using an =
IPv6 to IPv4 NAT service. As with all NAT services, this will provide =
users with connectivity to many or most resources, however, some =
resources may not work. References listing many services that will or =
will not work are located at:
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0AnVbRg3D=
otzFdGVwZWlWeG5wXzVMcG5qczZEZloxWGc#gid=3D0
 
Please give feedback on this =
service. If you have specific issues with this implementation of a NAT64 =
service, please let us know using any of the usual ways to contact the =
NOC. And, of course, feel free to give feedback about the standards to =
the appropriate working groups.

This pilot is provided =
through the following software and hardware:

Nominum is providing a =
caching name server to perform DNS64 translation.
A10 Networks is providing a =
network switch to perform wire-speed NAT64 translation.

The following people did the =
work to get this service up and running:

Ted Lemon
James Brister
Konstatin Dunaev
Jim Martin
Bjoern Zeeb
Colin Doyle<=
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Chris =
Elliott
 
 
-- 
Chris Elliott
chelliot@pobox.com
CCIE # =
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My assumption when I as chair ask someone to jabber scribe is that they 
are to catch the high points, particularly those that might be missed by 
someone following the audio.
I am not normally asking for continuous transcription.
Note that this does assume that as chair I have done my job and made 
sure the slides are available from the repository.

Yours,
Joel

On 7/29/13 4:07 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
> On 07/29/13 09:52, Melinda Shore allegedly wrote:
>> That said, in this, the first session of the first day of
>> meetings, I'm finding that the Jabber scribing is not all
>> that consistent.  For people not in the room, seeing "Slide
>> 1," "Slide 2," and so on is not all that different from
>> just reading the slide set.  When people make comments at
>> the mike it's *really* helpful to capture the person's
>> name and the general gist of what they said.
>>
>> Thanks again to the heroes who step up and volunteer.  You
>> make remote participation possible.
>
> +1.  I really appreciate chatty jabberers.
>
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+1 !


On 7/29/13 10:12 AM, Jose Saldana wrote:
> Jari,
>
> According to what happened yesterday, I think the idea of the BOF posters
> was really good. Some ideas:
>
> - It is a good place for meeting. You can say "see you in the welcome
> reception, near the poster". In fact, we were able to meet with the BOF
> chairs and with a lot of the people interested on the BOF.
>
> - Some people ask questions, and you can tell them about your proposal.
>
> - In our case (TCM-TF), the poster was just next to the place where the
> queue for taking food and drink began, so almost everyone saw the poster
> :-).
>
> So it was a nice idea (IMHO)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jose
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] En
> nombre de IETF Chair
> Enviado el: miércoles, 24 de julio de 2013 8:22
> Para: ietf-announce@ietf.org
> CC: 87 attendees
> Asunto: [87attendees] BOF posters in the welcome reception
>
> I wanted to let you know about an experiment we are trying out in Berlin.
>
> At this meeting we have quite many BOFs. This is of course great, it is good
> that people are bringing new work to the IETF. I look forward to the
> discussions during the week and hopefully a number of new working groups
> will eventually be created.
>
> But we want as many people as possible to become involved in these efforts,
> or at least provide their feedback during the week. So we have given an
> opportunity for the BOFs to display a poster in the Welcome Reception
> (Sunday 5pm to 7pm). If you are attending the reception, take a look at the
> posters and look for topics that interest you. Someone running the BOF is
> also likely standing by, so you can also get directly involved in
> discussions, sign up to help, etc. We hope that this helps you all network
> with others even more :-)
>
> Jari Arkko
> IETF Chair
>
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On 7/29/13 10:07 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
> On 07/29/13 09:52, Melinda Shore allegedly wrote:
>> That said, in this, the first session of the first day of
>> meetings, I'm finding that the Jabber scribing is not all
>> that consistent.  For people not in the room, seeing "Slide
>> 1," "Slide 2," and so on is not all that different from
>> just reading the slide set.  When people make comments at
>> the mike it's *really* helpful to capture the person's
>> name and the general gist of what they said.
>>
>> Thanks again to the heroes who step up and volunteer.  You
>> make remote participation possible.
> 
> +1.  I really appreciate chatty jabberers.

Instructions to the scribes have been inconsistent.

I see two roles here:

1. scribes: those who take notes

2. relays: those who take questions from the chatroom to the mic

It's hard to do both at the same time.

In my experience it's really hard to do (1) well.

In my experience (2) is relatively easy (other than not catching
people's names -- it helps if you park yourself close to the mic).

It's not clear to me that scribing needs to happen in the chatroom,
although that too can be helpful (instead of using etherpad or notes on
your own machine).

I agree that some guidelines would be very helpful. I sense a wiki page
and perhaps an Internet-Draft emerging here soon...

Peter

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Subject: Re: [87attendees] BOF posters in the welcome reception
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> - Some people ask questions, and you can tell them about your proposal.
>
> - In our case (TCM-TF), the poster was just next to the place where the
> queue for taking food and drink began, so almost everyone saw the poster


I love the idea of the posters.  What I wonder is what should be on them?

What sort of content will be most helpful to folk?

The ones that were up at the Reception were relatively terse, pro-forma 
tag-lines, rather than going into much substance.  They seemed to me 
mostly to warranted a drive-by glance.  (Having someone representing the 
topic, to permit discussion, is a separate matter.)

By contrast, posters for a conference poster session go into some detail 
of explain the topic and the work that was done (or, in our case, the 
work being proposed.)  They warrant actual study.

So, how much information should be on them?

d/

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On 07/29/13 10:18, Joel M. Halpern allegedly wrote:
> My assumption when I as chair ask someone to jabber scribe is that they
> are to catch the high points, particularly those that might be missed by
> someone following the audio.

This leaves out people in other rooms who cannot listen to the audio but
want to keep track of your meeting and possibly contribute.


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Melinda,


On 7/29/13 10:06 AM, "Melinda Shore"  wrote:

>I was thinking of the case where someone is not listening to
>the audio stream, either because they're in another room or
>because they're listening to a different stream.  Calling
>out the slides is useful, but calling out nothing but the
>slides is not so useful for people who don't have audio.
>So, this is not a request not to type slide numbers, but a
>request to try to capture what's going on in the room.

When I jabber scribe[1], I will typically ask if there is anyone in the
chat room who needs a higher level of commentary.  If everyone in the chat
room is either listening to the audio or on MeetEcho, I will typically
only provide slide changes, links to drafts and slides, and names of
people who are speaking at the mic. If there are people who do not have
access to audio or MeetEcho, I will switch to a higher level of commentary
and try to summarize the major points raised by the speakers and the
people giving comments.


> (Yes,
>that can often be difficult, but it's such a huge help to
>those of us not on audio.)

It *is* definitely a huge help to those who are remote.

Dan

[1] which I try to do as often as I can because I've been where you are
(Melinda) multiple times trying to participate remotely and I have come to
value jabber scribing.

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On this topic...=20


On 7/29/13 10:05 AM, "Dave Crocker"  wrote:

>But this exchange starts to look like there's a nascent Guide for Jabber
>Scribing being implied here...

On 7/29/13 10:21 AM, "Peter Saint-Andre"  wrote:

> I agree that some guidelines would be very helpful. I sense a wiki page
> and perhaps an Internet-Draft emerging here soon...


... I've thought for several IETF meetings that such a I-D would be useful
and I actually started outlining one after the last meeting in Orlando.
If there are other people (Jabber scribes?) who would be interested on
collaborating on such a document, please drop me a line (directly is fine
versus to the list).  Perhaps we can put something together before the
next meeting.

Dan


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On 7/29/13 12:32 AM, Dan York wrote:
> ... I've thought for several IETF meetings that such a I-D would be useful
> and I actually started outlining one after the last meeting in Orlando.
> If there are other people (Jabber scribes?) who would be interested on
> collaborating on such a document, please drop me a line (directly is fine
> versus to the list).  Perhaps we can put something together before the
> next meeting.

We've got a working group chairs wiki page on supporting
remote participation and I think this would fit well with
that.  I suspect we need to do a better job reminding chairs
to take a look at that thing.

Melinda

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Melinda Shore
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"Software longa, hardware brevis."

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Hi,

If you're into model railways, you may be interested in the one at the LOXX=
 miniature world:

http://loxx-berlin.de/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&view=3Darticle&id=3D88=
&Itemid=3D113

It's located in the Alexa shopping center, at Alexanderplatz.

Regards,

Christer

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On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Scott Brim  wrote:
> +1.  I really appreciate chatty jabberers.

This is helpful feedback=97when I scribe I'm always unsure as to how much t=
yping I should be doing.


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On 07/29/2013 10:27 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> If so please contact me offline.
> 
> My laptop is throwing a continuous stream of errors filling my messages
> log and brining my machine to a grinding halt.  It seems to be a warning
> from the 80211 stack trying to determine the channel type. I am curious
> if anyone else sees this or if it is just me?  I have tried 2 versions
> of the kernel to no avail, yet.  To keep my laptop usable I need to turn
> off the radio by switch before I boot up. Once it gets into the loop
> there seems to be no way to get out short of shutting down.  Maybe a
> different location (I'm in Charlottenburg 2/3) might help?

I'm in Potsdam 1 now, I've seen my Linux system freeze after leaving
OpSec. Maybe this was the issue that you see too.

I see this:

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639917] WARNING: at
/home/apw/COD/linux/net/mac80211/mlme.c:366
ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x25f/0x390 [mac80211]()
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639920] Modules linked in:
xt_TCPMSS xt_tcpmss xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ip_tables x_tables
nls_iso8859_1 omfs jfs xfs libcrc32c reiserfs hfs hfsplus isofs nls_utf8
udf crc_itu_t mmc_block usb_storage ipheth ppp_deflate zlib_deflate
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llc snd_hda_codec_hdmi intel_powerclamp snd_hda_codec_realtek kvm_intel
thinkpad_acpi snd_hda_intel kvm snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi snd_hwdep
arc4 snd_rawmidi snd_pcm snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_timer iwldvm
snd_seq_device mac80211 snd nvram btusb tpm_tis microcode iwlwifi
cfg80211 bnep psmouse rfcomm uvcvideo parport_pc bluetooth serio_raw
videobuf2_core ppdev cdc_mbim lpc_ich lp parport videodev
videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops cdc_ncm soundcore usbnet
snd_page_alloc nfsd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss cdc_acm cdc_wdm nfs fscache
lockd binfmt_misc sunrpc mac_hid ext2 lm75 coretemp dm_crypt i915
crc32_pclmul ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel drm_kms_helper ablk_helper
cryptd drm lrw g
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: f128mul e1000e glue_helper
i2c_algo_bit wmi aes_x86_64 video sdhci_pci ptp sdhci pps_core ahci
libahci [last unloaded: ipmi_msghandler]
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640160] CPU: 3 PID: 24816
Comm: kworker/u16:0 Tainted: G        W    3.10.0-999-generic #201305190405
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640162] Hardware name: LENOVO
23252GG/23252GG, BIOS G2ET86WW (2.06 ) 11/13/2012
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640171] Workqueue: phy0
ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640173]  ffffffffa0541498
ffff880163da5898 ffffffff816c1e98 ffff880163da58d8
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640176]  ffffffff81044c70
0000000000000001 ffff880163da59e0 ffff88020c18e800
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640190]  0000000000000810
ffff880212129070 0000000000000000 ffff880163da58e8
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640197] Call Trace:
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640245]  []
dump_stack+0x19/0x1b
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640252]  []
warn_slowpath_common+0x70/0xa0
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640273]  []
warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20


I'm on ietf-v6ONLY (2.4GHz) and running a 3.10.0 64bit Kernel, works
fine at the moment.

-dominik

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On 07/29/13 10:35, Ted Lemon allegedly wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Scott Brim  wrote:
>> +1.  I really appreciate chatty jabberers.
>=20
> This is helpful feedback=97when I scribe I'm always unsure as to how mu=
ch typing I should be doing.

I've never heard of anyone complaining about TMI in jabber.


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On 7/29/13 10:37 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
> On 07/29/13 10:35, Ted Lemon allegedly wrote:
>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Scott Brim  wrote:
>>> +1.  I really appreciate chatty jabberers.
>>
>> This is helpful feedback—when I scribe I'm always unsure as to how much typing I should be doing.
> 
> I've never heard of anyone complaining about TMI in jabber.

But it's hard to get people to volunteer for the role of providing TMI.

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On 7/29/13 10:32 AM, Dan York wrote:
> On this topic... 
> 
> 
> On 7/29/13 10:05 AM, "Dave Crocker"  wrote:
> 
>> But this exchange starts to look like there's a nascent Guide for Jabber
>> Scribing being implied here...
> 
> On 7/29/13 10:21 AM, "Peter Saint-Andre"  wrote:
> 
>> I agree that some guidelines would be very helpful. I sense a wiki page
>> and perhaps an Internet-Draft emerging here soon...
> 
> 
> ... I've thought for several IETF meetings that such a I-D would be useful
> and I actually started outlining one after the last meeting in Orlando.
> If there are other people (Jabber scribes?) who would be interested on
> collaborating on such a document, please drop me a line (directly is fine
> versus to the list).  Perhaps we can put something together before the
> next meeting.

Dan, I would work with you on that.

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On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Scott Brim  wrote:

> On 07/29/13 10:35, Ted Lemon allegedly wrote:
>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Scott Brim  wrote:
>>> +1.  I really appreciate chatty jabberers.
>>=20
>> This is helpful feedback=97when I scribe I'm always unsure as to how =
much typing I should be doing.
>=20
> I've never heard of anyone complaining about TMI in jabber.

OTOH, as a chair I've struggled to get jabber scribe volunteers on many =
occasions. I take that as an implied complaint. More pressure on the =
scribes is going to make that even harder.

There have been some mentions of crowd-sourcing the scribe effort. I =
agree there could be merit there.=

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Yes, that is what I see...  Over and over.  Hard to type that into my phone=
.  :-)

I have a 3.9.10-200 kernel.  Do you not get that from the 3.10 kernel?  May=
be location matters?

I can try to update my kernel after I get out of appsarea.

-derek

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G


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On 07/29/2013 10:27 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> If so please contact me offline.
>
> My laptop is throwing a continuous stream of errors filling my messages
> log and brining my machine to a grinding halt.  It seems to be a warning
> from the 80211 stack trying to determine the channel type. I am curious
> if anyone else sees this or if it is just me?  I have tried 2 versions
> of the kernel to no avail, yet.  To keep my laptop usable I need to turn
> off the radio by switch before I boot up. Once it gets into the loop
> there seems to be no way to get out short of shutting down.  Maybe a
> different location (I'm in Charlottenburg 2/3) might help?

I'm in Potsdam 1 now, I've seen my Linux system freeze after leaving
OpSec. Maybe this was the issue that you see too.

I see this:

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639917] WARNING: at
/home/apw/COD/linux/net/mac80211/mlme.c:366
ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x25f/0x390 [mac80211]()
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639920] Modules linked in:
xt_TCPMSS xt_tcpmss xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ip_tables x_tables
nls_iso8859_1 omfs jfs xfs libcrc32c reiserfs hfs hfsplus isofs nls_utf8
udf crc_itu_t mmc_block usb_storage ipheth ppp_deflate zlib_deflate
bsd_comp ppp_async crc_ccitt usbhid hid snd_hrtimer 8021q mrp garp stp
llc snd_hda_codec_hdmi intel_powerclamp snd_hda_codec_realtek kvm_intel
thinkpad_acpi snd_hda_intel kvm snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi snd_hwdep
arc4 snd_rawmidi snd_pcm snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_timer iwldvm
snd_seq_device mac80211 snd nvram btusb tpm_tis microcode iwlwifi
cfg80211 bnep psmouse rfcomm uvcvideo parport_pc bluetooth serio_raw
videobuf2_core ppdev cdc_mbim lpc_ich lp parport videodev
videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops cdc_ncm soundcore usbnet
snd_page_alloc nfsd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss cdc_acm cdc_wdm nfs fscache
lockd binfmt_misc sunrpc mac_hid ext2 lm75 coretemp dm_crypt i915
crc32_pclmul ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel drm_kms_helper ablk_helper
cryptd drm lrw g
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: f128mul e1000e glue_helper
i2c_algo_bit wmi aes_x86_64 video sdhci_pci ptp sdhci pps_core ahci
libahci [last unloaded: ipmi_msghandler]
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640160] CPU: 3 PID: 24816
Comm: kworker/u16:0 Tainted: G        W    3.10.0-999-generic #201305190405
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640162] Hardware name: LENOVO
23252GG/23252GG, BIOS G2ET86WW (2.06 ) 11/13/2012
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640171] Workqueue: phy0
ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640173]  ffffffffa0541498
ffff880163da5898 ffffffff816c1e98 ffff880163da58d8
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640176]  ffffffff81044c70
0000000000000001 ffff880163da59e0 ffff88020c18e800
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640190]  0000000000000810
ffff880212129070 0000000000000000 ffff880163da58e8
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640197] Call Trace:
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640245]  []
dump_stack+0x19/0x1b
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640252]  []
warn_slowpath_common+0x70/0xa0
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640273]  []
warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20


I'm on ietf-v6ONLY (2.4GHz) and running a 3.10.0 64bit Kernel, works
fine at the moment.

-dominik
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Yes, that is what I see... =
 Over and over.  Hard to type that into my phone.  :-)
I have a 3.9.10-200 kernel.  Do you not get that from the 3.10 kerne=
l?  Maybe location matters? 

I can try to update my kernel afte=
r I get out of appsarea.

-derek

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G

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Subject: [87attendees] Anyone us=
ing Fedora 18 on the IETF wifi?
Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 10:36 AM

=





On 07/29/2013 10:27 AM, Derek Atk=
ins wrote:

> If so please contact me offline.

> 

> My laptop is throwing a continuous stream of errors filling my message=
s

> log and brining my machine to a grinding halt.  It seems to be a =
warning

> from the 80211 stack trying to determine the channel type. I am curiou=
s

> if anyone else sees this or if it is just me?  I have tried 2 ver=
sions

> of the kernel to no avail, yet.  To keep my laptop usable I need =
to turn

> off the radio by switch before I boot up. Once it gets into the loop
> there seems to be no way to get out short of shutting down.  Mayb=
e a

> different location (I'm in Charlottenburg 2/3) might help?



I'm in Potsdam 1 now, I've seen my Linux system freeze after leaving

OpSec. Maybe this was the issue that you see too.



I see this:



Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639917] WARNING: at

/home/apw/COD/linux/net/mac80211/mlme.c:366

ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x25f/0x390 [mac80211]()

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639920] Modules linked in:

xt_TCPMSS xt_tcpmss xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ip_tables x_tables

nls_iso8859_1 omfs jfs xfs libcrc32c reiserfs hfs hfsplus isofs nls_utf8
udf crc_itu_t mmc_block usb_storage ipheth ppp_deflate zlib_deflate

bsd_comp ppp_async crc_ccitt usbhid hid snd_hrtimer 8021q mrp garp stp

llc snd_hda_codec_hdmi intel_powerclamp snd_hda_codec_realtek kvm_intel

thinkpad_acpi snd_hda_intel kvm snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi snd_hwdep

arc4 snd_rawmidi snd_pcm snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_timer iwldvm

snd_seq_device mac80211 snd nvram btusb tpm_tis microcode iwlwifi

cfg80211 bnep psmouse rfcomm uvcvideo parport_pc bluetooth serio_raw

videobuf2_core ppdev cdc_mbim lpc_ich lp parport videodev

videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops cdc_ncm soundcore usbnet

snd_page_alloc nfsd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss cdc_acm cdc_wdm nfs fscache

lockd binfmt_misc sunrpc mac_hid ext2 lm75 coretemp dm_crypt i915

crc32_pclmul ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel drm_kms_helper ablk_helper

cryptd drm lrw g

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: f128mul e1000e glue_helper

i2c_algo_bit wmi aes_x86_64 video sdhci_pci ptp sdhci pps_core ahci

libahci [last unloaded: ipmi_msghandler]

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640160] CPU: 3 PID: 24816

Comm: kworker/u16:0 Tainted: G        W&=
nbsp;   3.10.0-999-generic #201305190405

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640162] Hardware name: LENOVO
23252GG/23252GG, BIOS G2ET86WW (2.06 ) 11/13/2012

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640171] Workqueue: phy0

ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640173]  ffffffffa0541498
ffff880163da5898 ffffffff816c1e98 ffff880163da58d8

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640176]  ffffffff81044c70
0000000000000001 ffff880163da59e0 ffff88020c18e800

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640190]  0000000000000810
ffff880212129070 0000000000000000 ffff880163da58e8

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640197] Call Trace:

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640245]  [<ffffffff816c1=
e98>]

dump_stack+0x19/0x1b

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640252]  [<ffffffff81044=
c70>]

warn_slowpath_common+0x70/0xa0

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640273]  [<ffffffff81044=
cba>]

warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20





I'm on ietf-v6ONLY (2.4GHz) and running a 3.10.0 64bit Kernel, works

fine at the moment.



-dominik

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There seems to be a bit of a mixing of concerns.
It seems to me that for supporting remote participation, expecting that 
the remote person has fetched the slides and is making an effort to 
follow the audio stream (which may for many reasons not work perfectly) 
seems a reasonable expectation.

The concern Scott at least expressed was to be able to follow the 
session and comment based on the jabber without the audio, due to being 
in another session within the IETF>  That is a different goal.

Yours,
Joel

PS: To be clear, I have no objection if the jabber scribe is willing and 
able to take more detailed notes into the jabber.  I am concerned with 
requiring that.

On 7/29/13 4:34 AM, Melinda Shore wrote:
> On 7/29/13 12:32 AM, Dan York wrote:
>> ... I've thought for several IETF meetings that such a I-D would be useful
>> and I actually started outlining one after the last meeting in Orlando.
>> If there are other people (Jabber scribes?) who would be interested on
>> collaborating on such a document, please drop me a line (directly is fine
>> versus to the list).  Perhaps we can put something together before the
>> next meeting.
>
> We've got a working group chairs wiki page on supporting
> remote participation and I think this would fit well with
> that.  I suspect we need to do a better job reminding chairs
> to take a look at that thing.
>
> Melinda
>

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On 07/29/13 10:40, Ben Campbell allegedly wrote:
> There have been some mentions of crowd-sourcing the scribe effort. I agree there could be merit there.

Yes, as in etherpad.  Also, you can ask your notetaker[s] to paste notes
into jabber during lulls.


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(oops, sent before I was finished)

On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Ben Campbell  wrote:

>=20
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:37 AM, Scott Brim  wrote:
>=20
>> On 07/29/13 10:35, Ted Lemon allegedly wrote:
>>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Scott Brim  wrote:
>>>> +1.  I really appreciate chatty jabberers.
>>>=20
>>> This is helpful feedback=97when I scribe I'm always unsure as to how =
much typing I should be doing.
>>=20
>> I've never heard of anyone complaining about TMI in jabber.
>=20
> OTOH, as a chair I've struggled to get jabber scribe volunteers on =
many occasions. I take that as an implied complaint. More pressure on =
the scribes is going to make that even harder.
>=20
> There have been some mentions of crowd-sourcing the scribe effort. I =
agree there could be merit there.

I meant to continue to say that I've seen crowd-sourcing work well in =
the XMPP meetings. But that group tends to have some special skills and =
motivation in the area. (Sometimes the room feels like the side-channel =
to the real meeting happening in the Jabber room :-)  )


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On 7/29/13 12:37 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
> I've never heard of anyone complaining about TMI in jabber.

When I'm Jabber scribing I turn off my brain and just type.  It
means that I can't really participate in discussions in that
working group, but I expect my being in type-more-talk-less
mode is a win/win for everybody.  I should add that in some cases
I've used the jabber transcript from a session I've chaired as a
basis for minutes.  Anyway, this may be too much but having
participated remotely as much as I have I try to capture what
I'd find useful as an un-audioed remote participant:
http://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/karp/2011-11-16.html

Melinda


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Gang,

I just tested this, and there is no IPv4 connectivity through the A10 box,
so I don't believe you are actually seeing end-to-end IPv4 connectivity. I
will speculate that your OS/browser/app is using IPv6 and NAT64 is helping
to hide this fact. If you believe otherwise, please come by the NOC (next
to the terminal room) and we'll take a look.

Thanks!
Chris.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, GangChen  wrote=
:

> I=92m using win7 to access =93ietf-nat64=94, everything is working well a=
s
> expected****
>
> One interested thing I found is:****
>
> When I switch the SSID =93ietf=94 to SSID =93ietf-nat64=94, the old IPv4 =
address
> is kept. ****
>
> And this IPv4 address is still valid for all the IPv4 applications.****
>
> Not sure that is a common case if you do same process****
>
> ** **
>
> BRs****
>
> ** **
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> Gang
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Gang,

I just tested this, and there is =
no IPv4 connectivity through the A10 box, so I don't believe you are ac=
tually seeing end-to-end IPv4 connectivity. I will speculate that your OS/b=
rowser/app is using IPv6 and NAT64 is helping to hide this fact. If you bel=
ieve otherwise, please come by the NOC (next to the terminal room) and we&#=
39;ll take a look.




Thanks!
Chris.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, GangChen=
 <chengang@chinamobile.com> wrote:



One intere=
sted thing I found is:
When I switch the SSID =93ietf=94 to S=
SID =93ietf-nat64=94, the old IPv4 address is kept. 


And this I=
Pv4 address is still valid for all the IPv4 applications.



Not sure t=
hat is a common case if you do same process


=A0
BRs



=A0=

Gang





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Hi,

If you're into comics and action figures, there is a shop, Toyboxx, not too=
 far from the meeting:

http://www.toyboxx.de/

The shop is rather small, but it's packed with stuff - including lots of vi=
ntage stuff.

Next to Toyboxx, there is a shop selling model railway stuff, but unfortuna=
tely I don't remember the name of that shop.

Regards,

Christer


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On 07/29/2013 10:40 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Yes, that is what I see...  Over and over.  Hard to type that into my
> phone.  :-)
> 
> I have a 3.9.10-200 kernel.  Do you not get that from the 3.10 kernel?
>  Maybe location matters?

yes, 3.10, I think it's location/AP dependant. Will check later.

-dominik


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Le 29/07/2013 10:22, Gunhee Lee a écrit :
> IETF breakfast is provided for participants who are staying in 
> intercontinental berlin. You can visit the counter of the LA cafe,
> and the receptionist find your name on the list (they have
> participants list)

Is that an IETF participant list, or IETF participant who stays at
InterContinental list? (I dont stay at InterContinental).

Alex

> you can have breakfast.
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Lee, Gunhee (ì´ê±´í¬)
> 
> Ph.D. / Senior Member of Research Staff Critical Infrastructure
> Protection R&D Department,
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> The Attached Institute of ETRI P.O. Box 1, Yuseong, Daejeon 305-600,
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> 
> 2013/7/29 Ray Pelletier :
>> No   Breakfast is included in guest room rate at intercontinental.
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 2013, at 11:24 PM, Alexandru Petrescu
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Will there be IETF breakfast in Berlin?
>>> 
>>> Alex
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________ 87attendees
>>> mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org 
>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees
>> _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing
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On 07/29/13 10:43, Melinda Shore allegedly wrote:
> On 7/29/13 12:37 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
>> I've never heard of anyone complaining about TMI in jabber.
> 
> When I'm Jabber scribing I turn off my brain and just type.  It
> means that I can't really participate in discussions in that
> working group, 

Another possible tweak is that scribes/notetakers get to go to the front
of the line at the mic.  That allows them to participate when they can
without losing a lot of scribing time.

> but I expect my being in type-more-talk-less
> mode is a win/win for everybody.  I should add that in some cases
> I've used the jabber transcript from a session I've chaired as a
> basis for minutes.  Anyway, this may be too much but having
> participated remotely as much as I have I try to capture what
> I'd find useful as an un-audioed remote participant:
> http://www.ietf.org/jabber/logs/karp/2011-11-16.html

Great.

swb


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All,

I am very interested in understanding this issue. There is a difference in
the AP configuration in the Potsdam area and the rest of the network--we
have 802.11n turned on for the 2.4G radio (802.11b/g, adding n) for the
Potsdam APs only.

Please collect the BSSID that you are connected to when you see this
problem if possible, or, at least, your location as precisely as possible.
Alternatively, the BSSIDs where you don't see this problem may help us
debug this problem.

Feel free to come by the help desk in the Terminal Room or open a ticket at
https://tickets.meeting.ietf.org/newticket.

Thanks!
Chris.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Dominik Bay  wrote:

> On 07/29/2013 10:40 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > Yes, that is what I see...  Over and over.  Hard to type that into my
> > phone.  :-)
> >
> > I have a 3.9.10-200 kernel.  Do you not get that from the 3.10 kernel?
> >  Maybe location matters?
>
> yes, 3.10, I think it's location/AP dependant. Will check later.
>
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All,

I am very interested in understand=
ing this issue. There is a difference in the AP configuration in the Potsda=
m area and the rest of the network--we have 802.11n turned on for the 2.4G =
radio (802.11b/g, adding n) for the Potsdam APs only.




Please collect the BSSID that you are connected to when=
 you see this problem if possible, or, at least, your location as precisely=
 as possible. Alternatively, the BSSIDs where you don't see this proble=
m may help us debug this problem.




Feel free to come by the help desk in the Terminal Room=
 or open a ticket at https://tickets.meeting.ietf.org/newticket.



Thanks!
Chris.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Dominik Bay <db@rrbon=
e.net> wrote:



On 07/29/2013 10:40 AM, De=
rek Atkins wrote:

> Yes, that is what I see... =A0Over and over. =A0Hard to type that into=
 my

> phone. =A0:-)

>

> I have a 3.9.10-200 kernel. =A0Do you not get that from the 3.10 kerne=
l?

> =A0Maybe location matters?




yes, 3.10, I think it's location/AP dependant. Will check later.<=
br>



-dominik



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On 07/29/13 10:57, Mishra, Sanjay allegedly wrote:
> It is for IETF participants staying at Intercontinental. At the entranc=
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it against the printed guest list.

A procedure like this is common across the globe where some room rates
include breakfast and others don't.


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From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" 
To: Peter Saint-Andre , Scott Brim 
Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Jabber scribing
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Not just hard - virtually impossible.

My first priority as wg chair is finding someone who can relay information =
to and from the remote participant that is not catered for on the audio str=
eam.

If any remote participant wants more than that, then they would need to adv=
ertise it in advance, and probably play some role in helping to find a volu=
nteer willing to devote the additional cycles (or possibly work in parallel=
 to the normal jabber scribe).

Just for the record, when I am taking notes for the minutes, I'm usually ab=
out 3 speakers behind on those notes, so even that typing would be useless =
for real time jabber relay.

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
> On Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
> Sent: 29 July 2013 09:39
> To: Scott Brim
> Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>; Melinda Shore; Ted Lemon
> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Jabber scribing
>=20
> On 7/29/13 10:37 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
> > On 07/29/13 10:35, Ted Lemon allegedly wrote:
> >> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Scott Brim  wrote:
> >>> +1.  I really appreciate chatty jabberers.
> >>
> >> This is helpful feedback-when I scribe I'm always unsure as to how muc=
h
> typing I should be doing.
> >
> > I've never heard of anyone complaining about TMI in jabber.
>=20
> But it's hard to get people to volunteer for the role of providing TMI.
>=20
> Peter
>=20
> --
> Peter Saint-Andre
> https://stpeter.im/
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>=20
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Alex,

On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Alexandru Petrescu =
 wrote:

> Le 29/07/2013 10:22, Gunhee Lee a =E9crit :
>> IETF breakfast is provided for participants who are staying in =
intercontinental berlin. You can visit the counter of the LA cafe,
>> and the receptionist find your name on the list (they have
>> participants list)
>=20
> Is that an IETF participant list, or IETF participant who stays at
> InterContinental list? (I dont stay at InterContinental).

You have to stay in the IC to have breakfast there.  Breakfast is =
included in the IC and the overflow hotel room rates.

Bob



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29 jul 2013 kl. 10:05 skrev "Carlos M. Martinez" :

> IMO calling the slide numbers is extremely useful when following a
> meeting over jabber.
>=20
> I've been jabber scribe a couple of times, and capturing names is
> usually the most frustrating part of this. For some reason, people =
tend
> to either not say their name, or say it very quickly and/or in a very
> low voice. Of course there are exceptions, but this is the norm.

As a Jabber scribe I would like to force presenters to add slide numbers =
to
their presentations. Not everyone has it and it makes it hard to scribe.

If MeetEcho is available in the room, then slide numbers will be =
automatically
added to the jabber room, which is nice.

/O


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On 07/29/13 11:01, Bob Hinden allegedly wrote:
> You have to stay in the IC to have breakfast there.  Breakfast is inclu=
ded in the IC and the overflow hotel room rates.

or you can pay =8020-=8030


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Le 29/07/2013 10:58, Scott Brim a écrit :
> On 07/29/13 10:57, Mishra, Sanjay allegedly wrote:
>> It is for IETF participants staying at Intercontinental. At the
>> entrance to the Café, the attendant asks for your room number and
>> verifies it against the printed guest list.
>
> A procedure like this is common across the globe where some room
> rates include breakfast and others don't.

Hmm... yes and no.

Whereas it may be common that some room rates include breakfast others
dont, the link with the event is new to me.

Alex

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On 7/29/2013 3:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On 7/29/13 10:37 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
>> I've never heard of anyone complaining about TMI in jabber. 

I have.

When our WiFi started being consistently reliable enough for me to be 
the note-taker but typing in the jabber room, I started doing that. My 
hope was for crowdsourcing corrections ("what I said wasn't what Spencer 
typed. what I really said was ...").

What I heard back was that I was typing enough that other people found 
jabber unusable for anything except watching what I typed. When I was 
one of the IESG scribes, the IESG ended up with a separate jabber room 
for scribing for a while (which kind of killed the point of me typing a 
lot in jabber, because the ADs were in the room where they could talk to 
each other).

The extreme case was a couple of RAI working groups that DID have a 
transcriptionist typing in the jabber room - that got moved to a 
separate jabber room, too.

I don't know what the current community feeling is, because I stopped 
being a note-taker when I was selected for the IAB (I had to choose 
between participating in the discussion and typing at line rate :-) ...

Spencer

> But it's hard to get people to volunteer for the role of providing TMI.
>
> Peter
>


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I think the IETF posters should have same format (special) may include:

1) Goals (main statement in the Charter).
2) Why should some be interested?
3) The Contact Persons details.
4) Related Work/RFCs.


AB

On 7/29/13, Dave Crocker  wrote:
>> - Some people ask questions, and you can tell them about your proposal.
>>
>> - In our case (TCM-TF), the poster was just next to the place where the
>> queue for taking food and drink began, so almost everyone saw the poster
>
>
> I love the idea of the posters.  What I wonder is what should be on them?
>
> What sort of content will be most helpful to folk?
>
> The ones that were up at the Reception were relatively terse, pro-forma
> tag-lines, rather than going into much substance.  They seemed to me
> mostly to warranted a drive-by glance.  (Having someone representing the
> topic, to permit discussion, is a separate matter.)
>
> By contrast, posters for a conference poster session go into some detail
> of explain the topic and the work that was done (or, in our case, the
> work being proposed.)  They warrant actual study.
>
> So, how much information should be on them?
>
> d/
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Le 2013-07-29 10:55, Chris Elliott a écrit :
> I am very interested in understanding this issue.

I replied to Derek privately but now that troubleshooting has been 
crowdsourced...

[simon@porto ~]$ iwconfig wlan0
wlan0     IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID:"ietf"
           Mode:Managed  Frequency:5.2 GHz  Access Point: 
3C:CE:73:65:FE:51
           Bit Rate=130 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
           Power Management:off
           Link Quality=49/70  Signal level=-61 dBm
           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
           Tx excessive retries:153  Invalid misc:57   Missed beacon:0

[simon@porto ~]$ uname -r
3.9.11-200.fc18.x86_64

[    8.744498] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Centrino(R) 
Advanced-N 6205 AGN, REV=0xB0

I'm in Potsdam 1, next to the mic on the right side.

Everything's working smoothly.

Simon
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On 7/29/2013 3:51 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
> On 07/29/13 10:43, Melinda Shore allegedly wrote:
>> On 7/29/13 12:37 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
>>> I've never heard of anyone complaining about TMI in jabber.
>> When I'm Jabber scribing I turn off my brain and just type.  It
>> means that I can't really participate in discussions in that
>> working group,
> Another possible tweak is that scribes/notetakers get to go to the front
> of the line at the mic.  That allows them to participate when they can
> without losing a lot of scribing time.

My experience was that most chairs were FINE with that when I asked 
("anything to get a scribe to say 'yes', right?") ...

Spencer

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That's not a good idea.

A poster, to be useful, has to be able to be read from a couple feet away. =
 You get, maybe, 10 or so lines of text, and whitespace is good.

A good poster would have name, date/time, chairs and 4-7 lines of "hook" te=
xt that tells you what the BoF is about.

Brian

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> I think the IETF posters should have same format (special) may include:
>=20
> 1) Goals (main statement in the Charter).
> 2) Why should some be interested?
> 3) The Contact Persons details.
> 4) Related Work/RFCs.
>=20
>=20
> AB
>=20
> On 7/29/13, Dave Crocker  wrote:
>>> - Some people ask questions, and you can tell them about your proposal.
>>>=20
>>> - In our case (TCM-TF), the poster was just next to the place where the
>>> queue for taking food and drink began, so almost everyone saw the poste=
r
>>=20
>>=20
>> I love the idea of the posters.  What I wonder is what should be on them=
?
>>=20
>> What sort of content will be most helpful to folk?
>>=20
>> The ones that were up at the Reception were relatively terse, pro-forma
>> tag-lines, rather than going into much substance.  They seemed to me
>> mostly to warranted a drive-by glance.  (Having someone representing the
>> topic, to permit discussion, is a separate matter.)
>>=20
>> By contrast, posters for a conference poster session go into some detail
>> of explain the topic and the work that was done (or, in our case, the
>> work being proposed.)  They warrant actual study.
>>=20
>> So, how much information should be on them?
>>=20
>> d/
>>=20
>> --
>> Dave Crocker
>> Brandenburg InternetWorking
>> bbiw.net
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The poster should have a person next to it.
The discussion is more important than the text.
This was my experience yesterday.

Regards, Benoit
> That's not a good idea.
>
> A poster, to be useful, has to be able to be read from a couple feet away.  You get, maybe, 10 or so lines of text, and whitespace is good.
>
> A good poster would have name, date/time, chairs and 4-7 lines of "hook" text that tells you what the BoF is about.
>
> Brian
>
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:05 AM, Abdussalam Baryun  wrote:
>
>> I think the IETF posters should have same format (special) may include:
>>
>> 1) Goals (main statement in the Charter).
>> 2) Why should some be interested?
>> 3) The Contact Persons details.
>> 4) Related Work/RFCs.
>>
>>
>> AB
>>
>> On 7/29/13, Dave Crocker  wrote:
>>>> - Some people ask questions, and you can tell them about your proposal.
>>>>
>>>> - In our case (TCM-TF), the poster was just next to the place where the
>>>> queue for taking food and drink began, so almost everyone saw the poster
>>>
>>> I love the idea of the posters.  What I wonder is what should be on them?
>>>
>>> What sort of content will be most helpful to folk?
>>>
>>> The ones that were up at the Reception were relatively terse, pro-forma
>>> tag-lines, rather than going into much substance.  They seemed to me
>>> mostly to warranted a drive-by glance.  (Having someone representing the
>>> topic, to permit discussion, is a separate matter.)
>>>
>>> By contrast, posters for a conference poster session go into some detail
>>> of explain the topic and the work that was done (or, in our case, the
>>> work being proposed.)  They warrant actual study.
>>>
>>> So, how much information should be on them?
>>>
>>> d/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dave Crocker
>>> Brandenburg InternetWorking
>>> bbiw.net
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 87attendees mailing list
>>> 87attendees@ietf.org
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My observation (of this discussion) is that there are two purposes for scrib=
ing, and I wonder if the jabber room naming might be arranged to better refl=
ect those?

E.g. xxxx-cc (to use the mnemonic for "closed captioning", for those with no=
 audio stream), and xxxx-tty or -tdy (for teletype or whatever TDY means) fo=
r actual jabbering and feedback from jabber participants to the room.

thoughts?

Brian

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:05 AM, Spencer Dawkins  wrote:

> On 7/29/2013 3:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> On 7/29/13 10:37 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
>>> I've never heard of anyone complaining about TMI in jabber.
>=20
> I have.
>=20
> When our WiFi started being consistently reliable enough for me to be the n=
ote-taker but typing in the jabber room, I started doing that. My hope was f=
or crowdsourcing corrections ("what I said wasn't what Spencer typed. what I=
 really said was ...").
>=20
> What I heard back was that I was typing enough that other people found jab=
ber unusable for anything except watching what I typed. When I was one of th=
e IESG scribes, the IESG ended up with a separate jabber room for scribing f=
or a while (which kind of killed the point of me typing a lot in jabber, bec=
ause the ADs were in the room where they could talk to each other).
>=20
> The extreme case was a couple of RAI working groups that DID have a transc=
riptionist typing in the jabber room - that got moved to a separate jabber r=
oom, too.
>=20
> I don't know what the current community feeling is, because I stopped bein=
g a note-taker when I was selected for the IAB (I had to choose between part=
icipating in the discussion and typing at line rate :-) ...
>=20
> Spencer
>=20
>> But it's hard to get people to volunteer for the role of providing TMI.
>>=20
>> Peter
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On 7/29/13 11:16 AM, Benoit Claise wrote:
> The poster should have a person next to it.
> The discussion is more important than the text.
> This was my experience yesterday.

Agreed.

Personally, I'm sorry that I wasn't able to attend the welcome reception
yesterday to chat about POSH.

Peter

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On 7/29/2013 11:10 AM, Rosen, Brian wrote:
> That's not a good idea.
>
> A poster, to be useful, has to be able to be read from a couple feet away.
...
>> I think the IETF posters should have same format (special) may include:
>>
>> 1) Goals (main statement in the Charter).
>> 2) Why should some be interested?
>> 3) The Contact Persons details.
>> 4) Related Work/RFCs.


This nicely highlights two entirely different paradigms for posters. 
One targets walk-by glances.  The other targets browsing folk who stop 
to study.

I'm not sure how the 10-foot-away model can be done to any real utility, 
since it permits no meaningful reading.

The latter is the model I'm used to at academic conferences.  And it is 
often used during breaks, when people are hanging out, chatting and 
chewing.  Much like our reception.

d/

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Apple laptops and iPads have power adapters with removable plugs.
There are two kinds: self-contained plugs that connect the power
adapter directly to a wall power outlet, and cables that attach to the
power adapter at one end and plug into the wall at the other. Pictures
are attached showing the US and UK versions of these plugs and cables.

Apple sells a travel kit containing an assortment of the
self-contained plugs, but not, as far as I know, the power cables.



If you've owned several Apple devices, chances are that by now you may
have accumulated a few spare plugs and cables. If anyone with a spare
European plug or cable would like to swap one for a US plug or cable
(would be useful for the next IETF meeting in Vancouver), let me know.

Stuart Cheshire

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The academic poster is the end goal.  There is no follow-on at the meeting.

The Walk By poster is an advertisement for the real thing.  You are hooked =
into thinking attending is a good use of your time.

The latter is what we are doing.  The former is not useful IMO. =20

I certainly agree having a person there is a good idea. =20

Brian

On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:23 AM, Dave Crocker 
 wrote:

> On 7/29/2013 11:10 AM, Rosen, Brian wrote:
>> That's not a good idea.
>>=20
>> A poster, to be useful, has to be able to be read from a couple feet awa=
y.
> ...
>>> I think the IETF posters should have same format (special) may include:
>>>=20
>>> 1) Goals (main statement in the Charter).
>>> 2) Why should some be interested?
>>> 3) The Contact Persons details.
>>> 4) Related Work/RFCs.
>=20
>=20
> This nicely highlights two entirely different paradigms for posters. One =
targets walk-by glances.  The other targets browsing folk who stop to study=
.
>=20
> I'm not sure how the 10-foot-away model can be done to any real utility, =
since it permits no meaningful reading.
>=20
> The latter is the model I'm used to at academic conferences.  And it is o=
ften used during breaks, when people are hanging out, chatting and chewing.=
  Much like our reception.
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> A poster, to be useful, has to be able to be read from a couple feet
> away.

display information densitiy varies widely between cultures.  density
on japanese posters, slides, ... is very hard for an american at first.
you get used to it.  i suspect japanese are uncomfortable with the lack
of information on the less dense american posters.

randy

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I was thinking in the same direction myself: to useful approaches to poster=
s, actually.
So maybe we could envisage 2 posters ?

The 10-foot away is a minimum, to help people connect and start discussing.

If possible (more work), a more detailed version would be very hepful I thi=
nk (myself, I would have enjoyed going through such posters).

Nadia.

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De : 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] de la part=
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This nicely highlights two entirely different paradigms for posters.
One targets walk-by glances.  The other targets browsing folk who stop
to study.

I'm not sure how the 10-foot-away model can be done to any real utility,
since it permits no meaningful reading.

The latter is the model I'm used to at academic conferences.  And it is
often used during breaks, when people are hanging out, chatting and
chewing.  Much like our reception.

d/

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
> On Behalf Of Melinda Shore
>
> On 7/29/13 12:32 AM, Dan York wrote:
> > ... I've thought for several IETF meetings that such a I-D would be
> useful
> > and I actually started outlining one after the last meeting in
> Orlando.
> > If there are other people (Jabber scribes?) who would be interested on
> > collaborating on such a document, please drop me a line (directly is
> fine
> > versus to the list).  Perhaps we can put something together before the
> > next meeting.
>
> We've got a working group chairs wiki page on supporting
> remote participation and I think this would fit well with
> that.  I suspect we need to do a better job reminding chairs
> to take a look at that thing.

[WEG] You also need something much, much shorter thank a draft or a wiki en=
try, because really the WG chairs are the secondary audience. You need some=
thing that fits nicely on a single slide (and normal font size) that you ca=
n display while asking for scribes and note takers (or send out in the emai=
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Wes

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On 07/29/2013 11:03 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> I am sitting in Charlottenburg 2/3.  There's no way I can give you the
> BSSID(s) when the issue occurred; it put over 16GB of logs in just a few
> minutes, my machine grinded to a halt with a load average of >27.
> 
> I was given a suggestion of disabling NetworkManager, and surprisingly
> this actually works!  I'm now on the ietf-a network by directly
> "ifup"ing.  Right now I'm connected to 3C:CE:73:5F:C2:72
> 
> I'll gladly work with you on debugging this.  I don't know if it's a
> hardware or software issue, but the linux kernel shouldn't come to a
> screeching halt when it finds a weird configuration.
> 
> -derek
> 
> PS: I'm running:
> Linux mocana.ihtfp.org 3.9.10-200.fc18.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:36:53
> UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I'm running 3.9.6-200.fc18.x86_64 and I have tried out the v6-only
network and did not have any problems. I'm really interested in getting
some of your excessive NM logs to look at this and file a bug report for
the right people.


Paul




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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
> On Behalf Of Joel M. Halpern
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 4:41 AM
> To: Melinda Shore
> Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; dcrocker@bbiw.net; Peter Saint-Andre
> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Jabber scribing
>
> There seems to be a bit of a mixing of concerns.
> It seems to me that for supporting remote participation, expecting that
> the remote person has fetched the slides and is making an effort to
> follow the audio stream (which may for many reasons not work perfectly)
> seems a reasonable expectation.
>
[WEG] +1K. That said, I've been in sessions where audio wasn't working or s=
lides weren't posted, or both, and I was the jabber scribe, and suddenly it=
 became my role to compensate for the other missing elements. I tried my be=
st, but to paraphrase Bones - Dammit Jim, I'm an engineer, not a stenograph=
er. Jabber simply isn't a substitute for the other things with us volunteer=
 amateurs at the keys.
I do try to summarize mic comments, but sometimes trying to parse the synta=
ctic filler (uh, um, well) and find the conversation thread is hard, especi=
ally if it's a rapid back and forth, non-native/quiet speaker, etc - i.e. t=
he same things that make it hard to follow on the audio stream, unfortunate=
ly. Even in "turn your brain off and type" mode, I have on more than one oc=
casion declared defeat after losing the thread.

> The concern Scott at least expressed was to be able to follow the
> session and comment based on the jabber without the audio, due to being
> in another session within the IETF>  That is a different goal.
[WEG] trying to follow other sessions is better served by being clear to th=
e scribe what exactly you're trying to follow without audio - usually it's =
one presentation you care about that couldn't be moved enough within the se=
ssion for you to physically attend. So telling them, "please note in Jabber=
 when this preso starts," or "please make sure to scribe comments during th=
is preso" will help to ensure success. Expecting the scribe to do that by d=
efault and for an entire session is asking too much IMO. We all have to mak=
e choices about what sessions to attend and what to miss, and by doing that=
, you're basically asking the jabber scribe to attend, but not participate =
in the session, because they can't think about anything but typing as fast =
as their fingers will go.

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> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
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> +1.  I really appreciate chatty jabberers.

[WEG] "chatty jabberers" is the name of my Talk Talk cover band :-)

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Stuart,

This is a great idea for a swap activity. I personally have more US
cables than I can use and a complete set of Interenational ones too
(UK, Europe, Australia, India and South Africa). I am not sure why
Apple excludes India and South Africa from the adapter kit (please
pass this on), but one of these days I will show you an Indian one
that I actually built!

Of course, spare cable can always be "converted" by chopping off the
"business end" and attaching a local plug instead, but I like your
idea of a cable/plug swap for Vancouver. I'll bring what I have in
terms of spares.

By the way, the UK plug in your picture is an old version. The new
adapter kit includes a much slimmer version.

Ole


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On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Stuart Cheshire wrote:

> Apple laptops and iPads have power adapters with removable plugs.
> There are two kinds: self-contained plugs that connect the power
> adapter directly to a wall power outlet, and cables that attach to the
> power adapter at one end and plug into the wall at the other. Pictures
> are attached showing the US and UK versions of these plugs and cables.
> 
> Apple sells a travel kit containing an assortment of the
> self-contained plugs, but not, as far as I know, the power cables.
> 
> 
> 
> If you've owned several Apple devices, chances are that by now you may
> have accumulated a few spare plugs and cables. If anyone with a spare
> European plug or cable would like to swap one for a US plug or cable
> (would be useful for the next IETF meeting in Vancouver), let me know.
> 
> Stuart Cheshire
> 

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On 29 Jul 2013, at 10:29, "Rosen, Brian"  =
wrote:

> The academic poster is the end goal.  There is no follow-on at the =
meeting.
>=20
> The Walk By poster is an advertisement for the real thing.  You are =
hooked into thinking attending is a good use of your time.
>=20
> The latter is what we are doing.  The former is not useful IMO. =20
>=20
> I certainly agree having a person there is a good idea. =20

As a reminder, BoF chairs were hampered this year in that the idea to =
have posters came late in the day, and we hadn't expected to be needed =
at the reception. The suggested poster format also changed even later.  =
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In future, it may be worth having a draft poster as a requirement for =
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Tim=

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Hi,
I'm looking for a ticket the social event.
So does somebody has one over?

Thank you

Best Regards

Roland




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Deutsche Telekom Technik GmbH
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Hi,


I’m looking for a ticket the social event.


So does somebody has one over?


 


Thank you


 


Best Regards


 


Roland


 








 


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Roland Jesske





Deutsche Telekom Technik GmbH


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Roland Jesske


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	Is any "jabber-scribing" guide or good-practices?

	
/as

	
	

On 7/29/13 10:06 AM, Melinda Shore wrote:
> On 7/29/13 12:01 AM, John G. Scudder wrote:
>> Is it just me? Is there a general consensus that calling out slides
>> in the jabber room isn't useful?
> 
> I was thinking of the case where someone is not listening to
> the audio stream, either because they're in another room or
> because they're listening to a different stream.  Calling
> out the slides is useful, but calling out nothing but the
> slides is not so useful for people who don't have audio.
> So, this is not a request not to type slide numbers, but a
> request to try to capture what's going on in the room.  (Yes,
> that can often be difficult, but it's such a huge help to
> those of us not on audio.)
> 
> Melinda
> 

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> The discussion is more important than the text.

Indeed. The existence of the poster hopefully leads to be people =
talking. Or even searching later what it was all about. Or attending.

I'd hate to be reading too much during the reception, however :-)

> The Walk By poster is an advertisement for the real thing.  You are =
hooked into thinking attending is a good use of your time.

Right.

Anyway, I'd be interested in more people's experiences on how last night =
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[replying to message that was sent to 87all@ ]

> Grab-N-Go is only available at the Marlene Bar. A limited variety of
> salads and currywurst will be available.

As far as I was able to tell, there were no grab-n-go options for
lunch anywhere in the hotel today.

I did see the queue for salad or currywurst (only those two options)
at the Marlene Bar.   That was mostly definitely *not* a Grab-N-Go
option.   I waited for several minutes in a queue that was about 20
deep and when I saw absolutely no movement of the queue for those few
minutes I gave up and went to look for food options outside the hotel.

If some actual grab-n-go food options could be made available for
lunch in the hotel, that would be nice.

(The grab-n-go lunch options in Orlando worked quite well.)

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Hallo Roland,

Please add your name to this list:
http://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/87socialtickets#social_tickets_wanted

Vielen Dank, Huub.


> I’m looking for a ticket the social event.
> So does somebody has one over?
> Thank you
> Best Regards
> Roland
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen; With Best Regards
> Roland Jesske
>
> Deutsche Telekom Technik GmbH
> Fixed Mobile Engineering Deutschland
> Roland Jesske
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Is it just me, or is the agenda color coding not working? When I mouse
over the little color swatch, a popup appears saying "color tag this
line", but when I click on it, nothing happens.



Stuart Cheshire

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Arturuo

On 7/29/13 2:02 PM, "Arturo Servin"  wrote:


>	Is any "jabber-scribing" guide or good-practices?

Not really, but 3 people have volunteered to collaborate with me on
writing one. So stay tuned...  ;-)

Dan


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On Jul 29, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Stuart Cheshire 
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> Is it just me, or is the agenda color coding not working? When I mouse
> over the little color swatch, a popup appears saying "color tag this
> line", but when I click on it, nothing happens.
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There's one at Keithstr. 39, which I noticed because it's across the 
street from my hotel.

To get there from the IC, cross the street at the light in front of the 
hotel, go straight on the alley which is Wichmannstr., turn left twice, 
once to stay on Wichmannstr. and once onto Keithstr.  If you're not there 
in 5 mins, you've missed it.

Dunno if this is the one where the IC offered to drop off laundry.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.

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	Good! It would be very valuable.

	I saw the email after in the thread.

Thanks
as

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> On 7/29/13 2:02 PM, "Arturo Servin"  wrote:
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>> 	Is any "jabber-scribing" guide or good-practices?
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> writing one. So stay tuned...  ;-)
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> As far as I was able to tell, there were no grab-n-go options for
> lunch anywhere in the hotel today.

Indeed, and this is a serious problem.  We have lunch meetings, and
need these to be available, reasonably priced, and quick.

If people fine some Applications Area working group chairs to be
grumpy this afternoon, it's because most of them didn't have lunch --
they couldn't find it before they had to get to an App chairs lunch
meeting.

Barry

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On 7/29/2013 1:21 PM, Tim Chown wrote:
> In future, it may be worth having a draft poster as a requirement for the BoF request.  If it doesn't hook the AD(s), it won't hook others.


+1

Simple, useful requirement.

d/

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On 07/29/2013 06:04 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:

> This is a great idea for a swap activity.

+1, and fun to collect the set :-)

The "business end" of apple power adapters is in fact a standard IEC
C7/C8 plug/socket, if you don't need them to be white and flush with the
branded adaptor there's lots of other sources of such plugs and leads, e.g.

-
http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Charger-Interchangeable-Smartphone-Packaging/dp/B006VP6X4U/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3Q65FY4OY8N7H&coliid=I1J5SZL5JCM52W

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Gang,

You can wait until the IP configuration refresh. I saw a link local v4
address on my win7 machine.

-z


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, GangChen  wrote=
:

> I=92m using win7 to access =93ietf-nat64=94, everything is working well a=
s
> expected****
>
> One interested thing I found is:****
>
> When I switch the SSID =93ietf=94 to SSID =93ietf-nat64=94, the old IPv4 =
address
> is kept. ****
>
> And this IPv4 address is still valid for all the IPv4 applications.****
>
> Not sure that is a common case if you do same process****
>
> ** **
>
> BRs****
>
> ** **
>
> Gang****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org=
]
> *On Behalf Of *Chris Elliott
> *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2013 7:09 AM
> *To:* 87attendees@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [87attendees] NAT64/DNS64 service on the IETF network****
>
> ** **
>
> We are piloting a NAT64/DNS64 service on the IETF network. To use this
> service, connect to the SSID called "ietf-nat64".
>
> IPv6 clients should use stateless autoconfiguration, and may use DHCPv6 t=
o
> retrieve name server information. Note that, like the other IETF networks=
,
> name server information is not included in the router advertisements. As
> this network is IPv6-only, clients will not get name server information
> from IPv4. If your client does not support stateless DHCPv6, you will hav=
e
> to configure your name server IP addresses manually to use DNS. This
> network provides name servers at 2001:df8:0:5::16 and 2001:df8:0:5::17.
>
> This service is provided so attendees can experience an IPv6-only network=
,
> yet access IPv4-only services using an IPv6 to IPv4 NAT service. As with
> all NAT services, this will provide users with connectivity to many or mo=
st
> resources, however, some resources may not work. References listing many
> services that will or will not work are located at:****
>
>
> *http://wiki.test-ipv6.com/wiki/Main_Page*****
>
> ** **
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0AnVbRg3DotzFdGVwZWlWeG5wXz=
VMcG5qczZEZloxWGc#gid=3D0
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Please give feedback on this service. If you have specific issues with
> this implementation of a NAT64 service, please let us know using any of t=
he
> usual ways to contact the NOC. And, of course, feel free to give feedback
> about the standards to the appropriate working groups.
>
> This pilot is provided through the following software and hardware:
>
> Nominum is providing a caching name server to perform DNS64 translation.
> A10 Networks is providing a network switch to perform wire-speed NAT64
> translation.
>
> The following people did the work to get this service up and running:
>
> Ted Lemon
> James Brister
> Konstatin Dunaev
> Jim Martin
> Bjoern Zeeb
> Colin Doyle****
>
> Chris Elliott****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Chris Elliott
> chelliot@pobox.com****
>
> CCIE # 2013****
>
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Gang,

You can wait until the IP c=
onfiguration refresh. I saw a link local v4 address on my win7 machine.=A0<=
/div>

-z



On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, GangCh=
en <chengang@chinamobile.com> wrote:


I=92m using win7 to access =
=93ietf-nat64=94, everything is working well as expected


One intere=
sted thing I found is:
When I switch the SSID =93ietf=94 to S=
SID =93ietf-nat64=94, the old IPv4 address is kept. 

And this I=
Pv4 address is still valid for all the IPv4 applications.


Not sure t=
hat is a common case if you do same process

=A0
BRs


=A0=

Gang


=A0=

=A0


From:<=
/b> 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@i=
etf.org] On Behalf Of Chris Elliott

Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:09 AM
To: 87attendees@ietf.org
Subj=
ect: [87attendees] NAT64/DNS64 service on the IETF network


=A0
We are piloting a NAT64/DNS64 service on the IETF network. =
To use this service, connect to the SSID called "ietf-nat64".


IPv6 clients should use stateless autoconfiguration, and may use DHCPv6=
 to retrieve name server information. Note that, like the other IETF networ=
ks, name server information is not included in the router advertisements. A=
s this network is IPv6-only, clients will not get name server information f=
rom IPv4. If your client does not support stateless DHCPv6, you will have t=
o configure your name server IP addresses manually to use DNS. This network=
 provides name servers at 2001:df8:0:5::16 and 2001:df8:0:5::17.


This service is provided so attendees can experience an IPv6-only netwo=
rk, yet access IPv4-only services using an IPv6 to IPv4 NAT service. As wit=
h all NAT services, this will provide users with connectivity to many or mo=
st resources, however, some resources may not work. References listing many=
 services that will or will not work are located at:


http://wiki.test-ipv6.com/wiki/Main_Page<=
/u>


=A0
=A0
Please give feedback on =
this service. If you have specific issues with this implementation of a NAT=
64 service, please let us know using any of the usual ways to contact the N=
OC. And, of course, feel free to give feedback about the standards to the a=
ppropriate working groups.


This pilot is provided through the following software a=
nd hardware:

Nominum is =
providing a caching name server to perform DNS64 translation.

A10 Networks is providing a network switch to perform wire-=
speed NAT64 translation.

The following people did the work to get this service up and running:


Ted Lemon
James Brister

Konstatin Dunaev
Jim Martin

Bjoern Zeeb
=
Colin Doyle


Chris Elliott<=
u>
=A0


=A0<=
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As a remote participant, these are the things I look for in jabber.

If audio/speaker are clear, and I have the slides:

What slide  are we on
Ability to ask my own question/comment
Ability to ask for clarification

But unfortunately the audio is often poor:

NAME of the speaker at the mic and summary of what they said
Anything major the presenter says that is not covered by the slides

Or for some reason I can't get/open the slides (had one today that my 
computer was "unable to open".  In that case I can ask in the Jabber room 
for more detail:

Anything significant in the slides that I can't pick up from the audio


If the discussion or presentation is confusing, I do not expect the jabber 
scribe to clarify it- That I look for in the minutes.

Janet



From:   "Joel M. Halpern" 
To:     Melinda Shore 
Cc:     "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, "dcrocker@bbiw.net" 
, Peter Saint-Andre 
Date:   07/29/2013 04:41 AM
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There seems to be a bit of a mixing of concerns.
It seems to me that for supporting remote participation, expecting that 
the remote person has fetched the slides and is making an effort to 
follow the audio stream (which may for many reasons not work perfectly) 
seems a reasonable expectation.

The concern Scott at least expressed was to be able to follow the 
session and comment based on the jabber without the audio, due to being 
in another session within the IETF>  That is a different goal.

Yours,
Joel

PS: To be clear, I have no objection if the jabber scribe is willing and 
able to take more detailed notes into the jabber.  I am concerned with 
requiring that.

On 7/29/13 4:34 AM, Melinda Shore wrote:
> On 7/29/13 12:32 AM, Dan York wrote:
>> ... I've thought for several IETF meetings that such a I-D would be 
useful
>> and I actually started outlining one after the last meeting in Orlando.
>> If there are other people (Jabber scribes?) who would be interested on
>> collaborating on such a document, please drop me a line (directly is 
fine
>> versus to the list).  Perhaps we can put something together before the
>> next meeting.
>
> We've got a working group chairs wiki page on supporting
> remote participation and I think this would fit well with
> that.  I suspect we need to do a better job reminding chairs
> to take a look at that thing.
>
> Melinda
>
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As a remote participant, these are the
things I look for in jabber.



If audio/speaker are clear, and I have
the slides:



    

  • What slide  are we on

  • Ability to ask my own question/comment

  • Ability to ask for clarification


But unfortunately the audio is often
poor:



    

  • NAME of the speaker at the mic and summary
of what they said

  • Anything major the presenter says that
is not covered by the slides


Or for some reason I can't get/open
the slides (had one today that my computer was "unable to open".
 In that case I can ask in the Jabber room for more detail:



    

  • Anything significant in the slides that
I can't pick up from the audio
    



If the discussion or presentation is
confusing, I do not expect the jabber scribe to clarify it- That I look
for in the minutes.



Janet







From:      
 "Joel M. Halpern"
<jmh@joelhalpern.com>

To:      
 Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@nomountain.net>

Cc:      
 "87attendees@ietf.org"
<87attendees@ietf.org>, "dcrocker@bbiw.net" <dcrocker@bbiw.net>,
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>

Date:      
 07/29/2013 04:41 AM

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Jabber scribing

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There seems to be a bit of a mixing of concerns.

It seems to me that for supporting remote participation, expecting that


the remote person has fetched the slides and is making an effort to 

follow the audio stream (which may for many reasons not work perfectly)


seems a reasonable expectation.



The concern Scott at least expressed was to be able to follow the 

session and comment based on the jabber without the audio, due to being


in another session within the IETF>  That is a different goal.



Yours,

Joel



PS: To be clear, I have no objection if the jabber scribe is willing and


able to take more detailed notes into the jabber.  I am concerned
with 

requiring that.



On 7/29/13 4:34 AM, Melinda Shore wrote:

> On 7/29/13 12:32 AM, Dan York wrote:

>> ... I've thought for several IETF meetings that such a I-D would
be useful

>> and I actually started outlining one after the last meeting in
Orlando.

>> If there are other people (Jabber scribes?) who would be interested
on

>> collaborating on such a document, please drop me a line (directly
is fine

>> versus to the list).  Perhaps we can put something together
before the

>> next meeting.

>

> We've got a working group chairs wiki page on supporting

> remote participation and I think this would fit well with

> that.  I suspect we need to do a better job reminding chairs

> to take a look at that thing.

>

> Melinda

>

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Janet P Gunn  wrote:
    > But unfortunately the audio is often poor:

    > * NAME of the speaker at the mic and summary of what they said
    > * Anything major the presenter says that is not covered by the slides

In particular, I notice that with non-native English speakers, or at least,
people with non-English names, that the names spoken at the mic tend to be
mumbled far more.
I recognize that 60% of this is that, as an english speaker, I can decode
mumbled english names much easier than non-Egnlish names.

So I suggest that you are *NOT* waisting your time to say your name really
slowly.   Many people feel that this is wasted time, but I think it takes
only 3s vs 2s to do it slowly, and all the various scribes and the like
probably would love the time to catch up on previous comments.

It's also WAY WAY easier to open PDF format slides than PPT(x).
It's just a new tab in my browser rather than a new tab in the task bar.
I also appreciate combined slides

(I am remote)

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On 7/29/2013 2:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
>> As far as I was able to tell, there were no grab-n-go options for
>> lunch anywhere in the hotel today.
>
> Indeed, and this is a serious problem.  We have lunch meetings, and
> need these to be available, reasonably priced, and quick.



Folks,

There's a nice coffee shop in the attached office building -- walk all 
the way in back, past our meeting rooms.  It's called White Chocolate 
and has sandwiches and small mains for very reasonable prices.

The catch is that the hand-written menus are in German, with no English 
version and the workers don't really speak English.

Herewith a crowd-sourcing request:

      Given all of our nascent enthusiasm for diversity, 
multiculturalism, and translating things, this provides one of you who 
knows German an opportunity to create and print a sign for them to 
display that presents the menu in English.

      Attached are photos of the menus...

(contact me offlist for higher res, if you need it.)


d/


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From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" 
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It also helps if the first syllable you say is not the first syllable of th=
e name. Say "I am ..." or "My name is ..." or whatever. It is just enough t=
ime to tune people in. It may also be enough for you yourself to judge whet=
her you are speaking at the right level before you get to the critical elem=
ent which is your name.

Having to turn round from note taking to work out who is speaking means the=
 first part of your spoken contribution frequently gets lost from the notes=
.

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Jabber scribing
>=20
>=20
> Janet P Gunn  wrote:
>     > But unfortunately the audio is often poor:
>=20
>     > * NAME of the speaker at the mic and summary of what they said
>     > * Anything major the presenter says that is not covered by the
> slides
>=20
> In particular, I notice that with non-native English speakers, or at leas=
t,
> people with non-English names, that the names spoken at the mic tend to b=
e
> mumbled far more.
> I recognize that 60% of this is that, as an english speaker, I can decode
> mumbled english names much easier than non-Egnlish names.
>=20
> So I suggest that you are *NOT* waisting your time to say your name reall=
y
> slowly.   Many people feel that this is wasted time, but I think it takes
> only 3s vs 2s to do it slowly, and all the various scribes and the like
> probably would love the time to catch up on previous comments.
>=20
> It's also WAY WAY easier to open PDF format slides than PPT(x).
> It's just a new tab in my browser rather than a new tab in the task bar.
> I also appreciate combined slides
>=20
> (I am remote)
>=20
> --
> Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works
>=20


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On 29.07.13, 15:23, Michael Richardson wrote:
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> Janet P Gunn  wrote:
>      > But unfortunately the audio is often poor:
>
>      > * NAME of the speaker at the mic and summary of what they said
>      > * Anything major the presenter says that is not covered by the slides
>
> In particular, I notice that with non-native English speakers, or at least,
> people with non-English names, that the names spoken at the mic tend to be
> mumbled far more.

That's funny. I was thinking exactly the same thing about people with 
non-Bulgarian names ;)

> I recognize that 60% of this is that, as an english speaker, I can decode
> mumbled english names much easier than non-Egnlish names.
>
> So I suggest that you are *NOT* waisting your time to say your name really
> slowly.

I don't believe anyone is worried about time here. I suspect this often 
has a lot more to do with people being shy or just trying not to impose 
too much on everyone.

> Many people feel that this is wasted time, but I think it takes
> only 3s vs 2s to do it slowly, and all the various scribes and the like
> probably would love the time to catch up on previous comments.

Maybe we could try a mandatory name spelling the first time anyone goes 
to the mike for a particular WG.

Emil

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On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 15:41:04 +0200, Emil Ivov wrote:

> Maybe we could try a mandatory name spelling the first time anyone
> goes to the mike for a particular WG.

Wasn't this solved at the Hiroshima IETF? At least at the technical
level :-)

	rvdp

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Ok 

That is a issue of Win7 console display. After several seconds, the IPv4 is
disappeared.

 

Thanks for the debugging

 

-Gang

 

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Gang,

 

I just tested this, and there is no IPv4 connectivity through the A10 box,
so I don't believe you are actually seeing end-to-end IPv4 connectivity. I
will speculate that your OS/browser/app is using IPv6 and NAT64 is helping
to hide this fact. If you believe otherwise, please come by the NOC (next to
the terminal room) and we'll take a look.

 

Thanks!

Chris.

 

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, GangChen  wrote:

I'm using win7 to access "ietf-nat64", everything is working well as
expected

One interested thing I found is:

When I switch the SSID "ietf" to SSID "ietf-nat64", the old IPv4 address is
kept. 

And this IPv4 address is still valid for all the IPv4 applications.

Not sure that is a common case if you do same process

 

BRs

 

Gang

 

 

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Ok 
That is a issue of Win7 console display. After several seconds, the =
IPv4 is disappeared.
 
Thanks for the debugging
 
-Gang
 
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Behalf Of Chris Elliott
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87attendees@ietf.org
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service on the IETF network
 
Gang,
 
I just tested this, and there is no =
IPv4 connectivity through the A10 box, so I don't believe you are =
actually seeing end-to-end IPv4 connectivity. I will speculate that your =
OS/browser/app is using IPv6 and NAT64 is helping to hide this fact. If =
you believe otherwise, please come by the NOC (next to the terminal =
room) and we'll take a look.
 
Thanks!
Chris.
 
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:16 AM, =
GangChen <chengang@chinamobile.com> =
wrote:
I’m using win7 to access “ietf-nat64”, everything =
is working well as expected
One interested thing I found is:
When I switch the SSID “ietf” to SSID =
“ietf-nat64”, the old IPv4 address is kept. 
And this IPv4 address is still valid for all the IPv4 =
applications.
Not sure that is a common case if you do same process
 
BRs
 
Gang
 
 
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>> In particular, I notice that with non-native English speakers, or
>> at least, people with non-English names, that the names spoken at
>> the mic tend to be mumbled far more.

Generally they are said as they are at home, not mumbled.


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On 7/29/2013 4:01 PM, Scott Brim wrote:
> Generally they are said as they are at home, not mumbled.


The two are not mutually exclusive.  On the average, when many of us are 
in our home environment, we speak quickly and we mumble...

But the salient point is that /everyone/ -- native and non-native 
English -- needs to talk at the microphone as if we are speaking to a 
limited listener.  It does not need to be a caricature style, but it 
needs to be a bit slower and often quite a bit better/distinct 
pronounciation than we normally speak.

And especially when stating our name.

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It's also broken for me.
js yells about "[16:09:26.474] ReferenceError: IETF is not defined @ 
http://datatracker.ietf.org/js/agenda2.js:61"

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On 7/29/13 2:25 PM, Yoav Nir wrote:
> WFM with Safari on a Mac.
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From Martin.Landsmann@haw-hamburg.de  Mon Jul 29 07:18:51 2013
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Hi all,

First picture:
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Linseneintopf mit Wiener und Brötchen
lentil stew with Austrian sausage and bun 3,90€

Kasselerbraten -kalt- mit hausgemachtem Kartoffelsalat u. Salatbeilage 
smoked pork chop -cold- with potato salad and green salad 4,50€  

Kräuterquark -vegetarisch- mit Frühlingszwiebeln + Kart.
junket -veterinarian- with scallions and potatoes 4,40€

Bandnudeln "Genever Art" mit Tomaten, Pesto, Hackfleisch
tagliatelle  "Genever Style" with tomatoes, pesto, mincemeat 4,20€

Jamaika - Salat mit Sußkartoffeln und Mango
Jamaika salad with sweetpotato and mango 4.70€


Second picture:
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Linseneintopf mit Wurzelgemüse, Wiener und Brötchen
lentil stew root vegetables with Austrian sausage and bun 3,90€

Kasselerbraten -kalt- mit hausgemachtem Kartoffelsalat u. Salatbeilage 
smoked pork chop -cold- with potato salad and green salad 4,50€

Kräuterquark -vegetarisch- mit Frühlingszwiebeln + Kart.
junket -veterinarian- with scallions and potatoes 4,40€

Bandnudeln "Genever Art" mit Tomaten, Pesto, Hackfleisch
tagliatelle  "Genever Style" with tomatoes, pesto, mincemeat 4,20€

Jamaika - Salat mit Sußkartoffeln und Mango
Jamaika salad with sweetpotato and mango 4.70€

Teller Milchreis mit Zucker und Zimt, dazu Apfelmus
rice pudding with sugar cinnamon and apple purée 2,90

Parts of third picture (right side after Donuts):
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Streuselschnecke
Chelsea bun with crumbles and currants 1,50€

Kuchen nach Angebot
Cake (today's special) from 1€

Belegte Brötchen 
Sandwiches (buns) from 1,50€

Ciabatta Tomate/Mozarella
Ciabatta tomato/mozarella 2,90€

Bunter Salatteller mit Fetakäse und Brötchen
Mixed salad with feta cheese and bun 4€

Bockwurst mit Brötchen
Bockwurst (sausage) with bun 1,50€

Wiener mit Brötchen
Austrian sausage and bun 1,90€

Leberkäse im Brötchen
beef and pork loaf with bun 1,80€

Bockwurst mit k-salat
Bockwurst (sausage) with potato salad 2,90€

Schnitzelsandwich
sandwich with schnitzel 2,20€
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the translation might be a little rough (I'm just a German native speaker)
Bon appetite!

Best regards,
Martin

On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:31:02 +0200
Dave Crocker  wrote:

> On 7/29/2013 2:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
> >> As far as I was able to tell, there were no grab-n-go options for
> >> lunch anywhere in the hotel today.
> >
> > Indeed, and this is a serious problem.  We have lunch meetings, and
> > need these to be available, reasonably priced, and quick.
> 
> 
> 
> Folks,
> 
> There's a nice coffee shop in the attached office building -- walk all 
> the way in back, past our meeting rooms.  It's called White Chocolate 
> and has sandwiches and small mains for very reasonable prices.
> 
> The catch is that the hand-written menus are in German, with no English 
> version and the workers don't really speak English.
> 
> Herewith a crowd-sourcing request:
> 
>       Given all of our nascent enthusiasm for diversity, 
> multiculturalism, and translating things, this provides one of you who 
> knows German an opportunity to create and print a sign for them to 
> display that presents the menu in English.
> 
>       Attached are photos of the menus...
> 
> (contact me offlist for higher res, if you need it.)
> 
> 
> d/
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dave Crocker
> Brandenburg InternetWorking
> bbiw.net


-- 
Martin L. 

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Oh, sorry. I hadn't noticed the URL. It works for me in http://tools.ietf.o=
rg/agenda/87/

On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Robert Sparks  wrote:

> It's also broken for me.
> js yells about "[16:09:26.474] ReferenceError: IETF is not defined @ http=
://datatracker.ietf.org/js/agenda2.js:61"
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>>> Is it just me, or is the agenda color coding not working? When I mouse
>>> over the little color swatch, a popup appears saying "color tag this
>>> line", but when I click on it, nothing happens.
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I now have the paper from the concierge at my hotel, which clarifies that it is
	Picobello
	Knesebeckstrasze 86-87

Their price list is at 
http://www.picobello-berlin.de/preisliste_charlottenburg.htm and 
shows 5.50 euros per kilo.


At 12:17 PM -0700 7/28/13, Randall Gellens wrote:

>  Hi Lyndon,
>
>  I'm told it is Picobello
>  http://www.picobello-berlin.de/filialen.htm
>
>  At 4:01 AM -0400 7/28/13, Lyndon Ong wrote:
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>>    Hi Randall,
>>
>>    Please let us know if there is such a place, I called earlier 
>> today but no one seemed to know of it.
>>
>>    Thanks,
>>
>>    Lyndon
>>
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org 
>> [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randall Gellens
>>    Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:26 AM
>>    To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org
>>    Subject: Re: [87attendees] Any self-service laundromat nearby?
>>
>>    At 12:32 AM +0200 7/27/13, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>
>>>     (This question seems to get asked at almost every IETF; it should
>>>    probably be put in the Wiki for each meeting.)
>>>
>>>     Is there any self-service laundromat anywhere near the IETF
>>>    hotel(s) (where 'nearby' includes 'nearby with public transit')?
>>
>>    I'd called my hotel last week to ask about bag-wash 
>> (fluf-n-fold) places, that do laundry and charge by the 
>> kilo/pound/bag.  The staff told me there is one super-close that 
>> charges around 4.5 euro per kilo for 2-day service, an extra euro 
>> or two for next-day service.
>>    They said it is so close the staff would be happy to take my 
>> stuff there for me.
>>
>>    They promised to give me the info on a paper when I checked in 
>> but I don't see it.  I'll call when they're not so busy to get it.
>>
>>
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At 11:05 AM +0200 7/29/13, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:

>  Le 29/07/2013 10:58, Scott Brim a =E9crit :
>>  On 07/29/13 10:57, Mishra, Sanjay allegedly wrote:
>>>  It is for IETF participants staying at Intercontinental. At the
>>>  entrance to the Caf=E9, the attendant asks for your room number and
>>>  verifies it against the printed guest list.
>>
>>  A procedure like this is common across the globe where some room
>>  rates include breakfast and others don't.
>
>  Hmm... yes and no.
>
>  Whereas it may be common that some room rates include breakfast others
>  dont, the link with the event is new to me.

There isn't a link to an event, but rather, the=20
IETF negotiated a rate that includes breakfast.=20
If you are staying at the Intercontinental and=20
booked using the IETF rate, then you get=20
breakfast included.  If you are not booked using=20
the IETF rate, then it does not matter that you=20
are attending the IETF, it only matters if your=20
rate includes breakfast.


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Thanks!

I guess the "Genever Style" is "Genoa Style", the town in Italy where
pesto sauce is originating. (I'm a native Italian... eater!)

Alfredo

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM,   wrote:
> Thanks, mainly agreed, however "junket -veterinarian" should better read =
"junket/curds with herbs - vegetarian" ;-)
> BR
> Dirk
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On Behalf Of Martin L.
> Sent: Montag, 29. Juli 2013 16:19
> To: 87attendees@ietf.org
> Cc: dcrocker@bbiw.net
> Subject: Re: [87attendees] [87all] IETF 87 - InterContinental Lunch Optio=
ns
>
> Hi all,
>
> First picture:
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Linseneintopf mit Wiener und Br=C3=B6tchen
> lentil stew with Austrian sausage and bun 3,90=E2=82=AC
>
> Kasselerbraten -kalt- mit hausgemachtem Kartoffelsalat u. Salatbeilage sm=
oked pork chop -cold- with potato salad and green salad 4,50=E2=82=AC
>
> Kr=C3=A4uterquark -vegetarisch- mit Fr=C3=BChlingszwiebeln + Kart.
> junket -veterinarian- with scallions and potatoes 4,40=E2=82=AC
>
> Bandnudeln "Genever Art" mit Tomaten, Pesto, Hackfleisch tagliatelle  "Ge=
never Style" with tomatoes, pesto, mincemeat 4,20=E2=82=AC
>
> Jamaika - Salat mit Su=C3=9Fkartoffeln und Mango Jamaika salad with sweet=
potato and mango 4.70=E2=82=AC
>
>
> Second picture:
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Linseneintopf mit Wurzelgem=C3=BCse, Wiener und Br=C3=B6tchen lentil stew=
 root vegetables with Austrian sausage and bun 3,90=E2=82=AC
>
> Kasselerbraten -kalt- mit hausgemachtem Kartoffelsalat u. Salatbeilage sm=
oked pork chop -cold- with potato salad and green salad 4,50=E2=82=AC
>
> Kr=C3=A4uterquark -vegetarisch- mit Fr=C3=BChlingszwiebeln + Kart.
> junket -veterinarian- with scallions and potatoes 4,40=E2=82=AC
>
> Bandnudeln "Genever Art" mit Tomaten, Pesto, Hackfleisch tagliatelle  "Ge=
never Style" with tomatoes, pesto, mincemeat 4,20=E2=82=AC
>
> Jamaika - Salat mit Su=C3=9Fkartoffeln und Mango Jamaika salad with sweet=
potato and mango 4.70=E2=82=AC
>
> Teller Milchreis mit Zucker und Zimt, dazu Apfelmus rice pudding with sug=
ar cinnamon and apple pur=C3=A9e 2,90
>
> Parts of third picture (right side after Donuts):
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Streuselschnecke
> Chelsea bun with crumbles and currants 1,50=E2=82=AC
>
> Kuchen nach Angebot
> Cake (today's special) from 1=E2=82=AC
>
> Belegte Br=C3=B6tchen
> Sandwiches (buns) from 1,50=E2=82=AC
>
> Ciabatta Tomate/Mozarella
> Ciabatta tomato/mozarella 2,90=E2=82=AC
>
> Bunter Salatteller mit Fetak=C3=A4se und Br=C3=B6tchen Mixed salad with f=
eta cheese and bun 4=E2=82=AC
>
> Bockwurst mit Br=C3=B6tchen
> Bockwurst (sausage) with bun 1,50=E2=82=AC
>
> Wiener mit Br=C3=B6tchen
> Austrian sausage and bun 1,90=E2=82=AC
>
> Leberk=C3=A4se im Br=C3=B6tchen
> beef and pork loaf with bun 1,80=E2=82=AC
>
> Bockwurst mit k-salat
> Bockwurst (sausage) with potato salad 2,90=E2=82=AC
>
> Schnitzelsandwich
> sandwich with schnitzel 2,20=E2=82=AC
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> the translation might be a little rough (I'm just a German native speaker=
) Bon appetite!
>
> Best regards,
> Martin
>
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:31:02 +0200
> Dave Crocker  wrote:
>
>> On 7/29/2013 2:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
>> >> As far as I was able to tell, there were no grab-n-go options for
>> >> lunch anywhere in the hotel today.
>> >
>> > Indeed, and this is a serious problem.  We have lunch meetings, and
>> > need these to be available, reasonably priced, and quick.
>>
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> There's a nice coffee shop in the attached office building -- walk all
>> the way in back, past our meeting rooms.  It's called White Chocolate
>> and has sandwiches and small mains for very reasonable prices.
>>
>> The catch is that the hand-written menus are in German, with no
>> English version and the workers don't really speak English.
>>
>> Herewith a crowd-sourcing request:
>>
>>       Given all of our nascent enthusiasm for diversity,
>> multiculturalism, and translating things, this provides one of you who
>> knows German an opportunity to create and print a sign for them to
>> display that presents the menu in English.
>>
>>       Attached are photos of the menus...
>>
>> (contact me offlist for higher res, if you need it.)
>>
>>
>> d/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Crocker
>> Brandenburg InternetWorking
>> bbiw.net
>
>
> --
> Martin L. 
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On 7/29/2013 4:43 PM, Alfredo Pironti wrote:
> I guess the "Genever Style" is "Genoa Style", the town in Italy where
> pesto sauce is originating. (I'm a native Italian... eater!)


Hmmm.  I assumed it meant Geneva.  But, then, they didn't invent pesto.

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That means it is pesto or pistou?

El 29-07-2013, a las 16:43, Alfredo Pironti  =
escribi=F3:

> Thanks!
>=20
> I guess the "Genever Style" is "Genoa Style", the town in Italy where
> pesto sauce is originating. (I'm a native Italian... eater!)
>=20
> Alfredo
>=20
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM,   wrote:
>> Thanks, mainly agreed, however "junket -veterinarian" should better =
read "junket/curds with herbs - vegetarian" ;-)
>> BR
>> Dirk
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org =
[mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin L.
>> Sent: Montag, 29. Juli 2013 16:19
>> To: 87attendees@ietf.org
>> Cc: dcrocker@bbiw.net
>> Subject: Re: [87attendees] [87all] IETF 87 - InterContinental Lunch =
Options
>>=20
>> Hi all,
>>=20
>> First picture:
>> =
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Linseneintopf mit Wiener und Br=F6tchen
>> lentil stew with Austrian sausage and bun 3,90=80
>>=20
>> Kasselerbraten -kalt- mit hausgemachtem Kartoffelsalat u. =
Salatbeilage smoked pork chop -cold- with potato salad and green salad =
4,50=80
>>=20
>> Kr=E4uterquark -vegetarisch- mit Fr=FChlingszwiebeln + Kart.
>> junket -veterinarian- with scallions and potatoes 4,40=80
>>=20
>> Bandnudeln "Genever Art" mit Tomaten, Pesto, Hackfleisch tagliatelle  =
"Genever Style" with tomatoes, pesto, mincemeat 4,20=80
>>=20
>> Jamaika - Salat mit Su=DFkartoffeln und Mango Jamaika salad with =
sweetpotato and mango 4.70=80
>>=20
>>=20
>> Second picture:
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Linseneintopf mit Wurzelgem=FCse, Wiener und Br=F6tchen lentil stew =
root vegetables with Austrian sausage and bun 3,90=80
>>=20
>> Kasselerbraten -kalt- mit hausgemachtem Kartoffelsalat u. =
Salatbeilage smoked pork chop -cold- with potato salad and green salad =
4,50=80
>>=20
>> Kr=E4uterquark -vegetarisch- mit Fr=FChlingszwiebeln + Kart.
>> junket -veterinarian- with scallions and potatoes 4,40=80
>>=20
>> Bandnudeln "Genever Art" mit Tomaten, Pesto, Hackfleisch tagliatelle  =
"Genever Style" with tomatoes, pesto, mincemeat 4,20=80
>>=20
>> Jamaika - Salat mit Su=DFkartoffeln und Mango Jamaika salad with =
sweetpotato and mango 4.70=80
>>=20
>> Teller Milchreis mit Zucker und Zimt, dazu Apfelmus rice pudding with =
sugar cinnamon and apple pur=E9e 2,90
>>=20
>> Parts of third picture (right side after Donuts):
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Streuselschnecke
>> Chelsea bun with crumbles and currants 1,50=80
>>=20
>> Kuchen nach Angebot
>> Cake (today's special) from 1=80
>>=20
>> Belegte Br=F6tchen
>> Sandwiches (buns) from 1,50=80
>>=20
>> Ciabatta Tomate/Mozarella
>> Ciabatta tomato/mozarella 2,90=80
>>=20
>> Bunter Salatteller mit Fetak=E4se und Br=F6tchen Mixed salad with =
feta cheese and bun 4=80
>>=20
>> Bockwurst mit Br=F6tchen
>> Bockwurst (sausage) with bun 1,50=80
>>=20
>> Wiener mit Br=F6tchen
>> Austrian sausage and bun 1,90=80
>>=20
>> Leberk=E4se im Br=F6tchen
>> beef and pork loaf with bun 1,80=80
>>=20
>> Bockwurst mit k-salat
>> Bockwurst (sausage) with potato salad 2,90=80
>>=20
>> Schnitzelsandwich
>> sandwich with schnitzel 2,20=80
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>=20
>> the translation might be a little rough (I'm just a German native =
speaker) Bon appetite!
>>=20
>> Best regards,
>> Martin
>>=20
>> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:31:02 +0200
>> Dave Crocker  wrote:
>>=20
>>> On 7/29/2013 2:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
>>>>> As far as I was able to tell, there were no grab-n-go options for
>>>>> lunch anywhere in the hotel today.
>>>>=20
>>>> Indeed, and this is a serious problem.  We have lunch meetings, and
>>>> need these to be available, reasonably priced, and quick.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Folks,
>>>=20
>>> There's a nice coffee shop in the attached office building -- walk =
all
>>> the way in back, past our meeting rooms.  It's called White =
Chocolate
>>> and has sandwiches and small mains for very reasonable prices.
>>>=20
>>> The catch is that the hand-written menus are in German, with no
>>> English version and the workers don't really speak English.
>>>=20
>>> Herewith a crowd-sourcing request:
>>>=20
>>>      Given all of our nascent enthusiasm for diversity,
>>> multiculturalism, and translating things, this provides one of you =
who
>>> knows German an opportunity to create and print a sign for them to
>>> display that presents the menu in English.
>>>=20
>>>      Attached are photos of the menus...
>>>=20
>>> (contact me offlist for higher res, if you need it.)
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> d/
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> Dave Crocker
>>> Brandenburg InternetWorking
>>> bbiw.net
>>=20
>>=20
>> --
>> Martin L. 
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There's another biergarten on the other side of the zoo, called
Schleusenkrug:=20
http://www.schleusenkrug.de/

Get there by following the same path that goes to am Neuen See along the
river.  Don't cross the bridge, but keep going straight past the zoo.
You'll run right into it.

I think the food there is better than at Caf=E9 am Neuen See; it's certainl=
y
smaller in a way that I find pleasant.


On 7/28/13 8:59 PM, "Tim Chown"  wrote:

>A big thumbs up for the beer garden behind the hotel over the river
>bridge. Decent beer and food including pizza.
>
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Le 29/07/2013 16:38, Randall Gellens a écrit :
> At 11:05 AM +0200 7/29/13, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>
>> Le 29/07/2013 10:58, Scott Brim a écrit :
>>> On 07/29/13 10:57, Mishra, Sanjay allegedly wrote:
>>>> It is for IETF participants staying at Intercontinental. At the
>>>> entrance to the Café, the attendant asks for your room number
>>>> and verifies it against the printed guest list.
>>>
>>> A procedure like this is common across the globe where some room
>>>  rates include breakfast and others don't.
>>
>> Hmm... yes and no.
>>
>> Whereas it may be common that some room rates include breakfast
>> others dont, the link with the event is new to me.
>
> There isn't a link to an event, but rather, the IETF negotiated a
> rate that includes breakfast. If you are staying at the
> Intercontinental and booked using the IETF rate, then you get
> breakfast included.  If you are not booked using the IETF rate, then
> it does not matter that you are attending the IETF, it only matters
> if your rate includes breakfast.

I think I understand.

I wonder whether someone gets an advantage of this new scheme.  I
personally dont.  Is it that the hotel Breakfast is more comfortable
than IETF hallways Breakfast?

I wonder whether the organizers arrived at this scheme by a need of
saving on expenses or by some other reason.

Alex


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On 7/29/2013 5:07 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
> I wonder whether someone gets an advantage of this new scheme.  I
> personally dont.  Is it that the hotel Breakfast is more comfortable
> than IETF hallways Breakfast?


It's a matter of local culture.  In this part of the world, breakfast is 
normally included with the hotel charge; this is deeply ingrained in 
most hotels' operations.

In the North American part of the world, it isn't.

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On 29.07.2013 17:13, Dave Crocker wrote:
> On 7/29/2013 5:07 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>> I wonder whether someone gets an advantage of this new scheme.  I
>> personally dont.  Is it that the hotel Breakfast is more comfortable
>> than IETF hallways Breakfast?
>
>
> It's a matter of local culture.  In this part of the world, breakfast is
> normally included with the hotel charge; this is deeply ingrained in
> most hotels' operations.

Actually, that's not the case (anymore?). I like it that way, because 
I'm not a breakfast person anyway...

 > ...

Best regards, Julian

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On 07/29/2013 10:40 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Yes, that is what I see...  Over and over.  Hard to type that into my 
> phone.  :-)
>
> I have a 3.9.10-200 kernel.  Do you not get that from the 3.10 kernel? 
>  Maybe location matters?
>
> I can try to update my kernel after I get out of appsarea.

rsyslogd is going crazy on my system (Fedora 17) on the ietf network to 
the point the system locks.  It is running my CPU up to 98% and my temp 
to 83 degrees.

I am fine on the hotel network.  I was on the ietf-a, and thought that 
was the problem, so I switched to the ietf plain and same thing.  
/var/logs/messages is now 5.6GB!  I hope that logrotate works tonight!

>
> -derek
>
> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G
>
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Dominik Bay" 
> To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>
> Subject: [87attendees] Anyone using Fedora 18 on the IETF wifi?
> Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 10:36 AM
>
>
>
> On 07/29/2013 10:27 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > If so please contact me offline.
> >
> > My laptop is throwing a continuous stream of errors filling my messages
> > log and brining my machine to a grinding halt.  It seems to be a warning
> > from the 80211 stack trying to determine the channel type. I am curious
> > if anyone else sees this or if it is just me?  I have tried 2 versions
> > of the kernel to no avail, yet.  To keep my laptop usable I need to turn
> > off the radio by switch before I boot up. Once it gets into the loop
> > there seems to be no way to get out short of shutting down.  Maybe a
> > different location (I'm in Charlottenburg 2/3) might help?
>
> I'm in Potsdam 1 now, I've seen my Linux system freeze after leaving
> OpSec. Maybe this was the issue that you see too.
>
> I see this:
>
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639917] WARNING: at
> /home/apw/COD/linux/net/mac80211/mlme.c:366
> ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x25f/0x390 [mac80211]()
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639920] Modules linked in:
> xt_TCPMSS xt_tcpmss xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ip_tables x_tables
> nls_iso8859_1 omfs jfs xfs libcrc32c reiserfs hfs hfsplus isofs nls_utf8
> udf crc_itu_t mmc_block usb_storage ipheth ppp_deflate zlib_deflate
> bsd_comp ppp_async crc_ccitt usbhid hid snd_hrtimer 8021q mrp garp stp
> llc snd_hda_codec_hdmi intel_powerclamp snd_hda_codec_realtek kvm_intel
> thinkpad_acpi snd_hda_intel kvm snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi snd_hwdep
> arc4 snd_rawmidi snd_pcm snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_timer iwldvm
> snd_seq_device mac80211 snd nvram btusb tpm_tis microcode iwlwifi
> cfg80211 bnep psmouse rfcomm uvcvideo parport_pc bluetooth serio_raw
> videobuf2_core ppdev cdc_mbim lpc_ich lp parport videodev
> videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops cdc_ncm soundcore usbnet
> snd_page_alloc nfsd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss cdc_acm cdc_wdm nfs fscache
> lockd binfmt_misc sunrpc mac_hid ext2 lm75 coretemp dm_crypt i915
> crc32_pclmul ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel drm_kms_helper ablk_helper
> cryptd drm lrw g
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: f128mul e1000e glue_helper
> i2c_algo_bit wmi aes_x86_64 video sdhci_pci ptp sdhci pps_core ahci
> libahci [last unloaded: ipmi_msghandler]
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640160] CPU: 3 PID: 24816
> Comm: kworker/u16:0 Tainted: G        W    3.10.0-999-generic 
> #201305190405
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640162] Hardware name: LENOVO
> 23252GG/23252GG, BIOS G2ET86WW (2.06 ) 11/13/2012
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640171] Workqueue: phy0
> ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640173] ffffffffa0541498
> ffff880163da5898 ffffffff816c1e98 ffff880163da58d8
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640176] ffffffff81044c70
> 0000000000000001 ffff880163da59e0 ffff88020c18e800
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640190] 0000000000000810
> ffff880212129070 0000000000000000 ffff880163da58e8
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640197] Call Trace:
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640245] []
> dump_stack+0x19/0x1b
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640252] []
> warn_slowpath_common+0x70/0xa0
> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640273] []
> warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20
>
>
> I'm on ietf-v6ONLY (2.4GHz) and running a 3.10.0 64bit Kernel, works
> fine at the moment.
>
> -dominik
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On 07/29/2013 10:40 AM, Derek Atkins
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      Yes, that is what I see...  Over
        and over.  Hard to type that into my phone.  :-)

        

        I have a 3.9.10-200 kernel.  Do you not get that from the 3.10
        kernel?  Maybe location matters? 

        

        I can try to update my kernel after I get out of appsarea.

      

    

    rsyslogd is going crazy on my system (Fedora 17) on the ietf network
    to the point the system locks.  It is running my CPU up to 98% and
    my temp to 83 degrees.

    

    I am fine on the hotel network.  I was on the ietf-a, and thought
    that was the problem, so I switched to the ietf plain and same
    thing.  /var/logs/messages is now 5.6GB!  I hope that logrotate
    works tonight!

    

    


        -derek

        

        Sent from my HTC EVO 4G

        

        

        
----- Reply message -----

          From: "Dominik Bay" <db@rrbone.net>

          To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>

          Subject: [87attendees] Anyone using Fedora 18 on the IETF
          wifi?

          Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 10:36 AM

          

        

      

      

      
        
On 07/29/2013 10:27 AM, Derek Atkins
          wrote:

          > If so please contact me offline.

          > 

          > My laptop is throwing a continuous stream of errors
          filling my messages

          > log and brining my machine to a grinding halt.  It seems
          to be a warning

          > from the 80211 stack trying to determine the channel
          type. I am curious

          > if anyone else sees this or if it is just me?  I have
          tried 2 versions

          > of the kernel to no avail, yet.  To keep my laptop usable
          I need to turn

          > off the radio by switch before I boot up. Once it gets
          into the loop

          > there seems to be no way to get out short of shutting
          down.  Maybe a

          > different location (I'm in Charlottenburg 2/3) might
          help?

          

          I'm in Potsdam 1 now, I've seen my Linux system freeze after
          leaving

          OpSec. Maybe this was the issue that you see too.

          

          I see this:

          

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639917] WARNING: at

          /home/apw/COD/linux/net/mac80211/mlme.c:366

          ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x25f/0x390 [mac80211]()

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639920] Modules
          linked in:

          xt_TCPMSS xt_tcpmss xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ip_tables
          x_tables

          nls_iso8859_1 omfs jfs xfs libcrc32c reiserfs hfs hfsplus
          isofs nls_utf8

          udf crc_itu_t mmc_block usb_storage ipheth ppp_deflate
          zlib_deflate

          bsd_comp ppp_async crc_ccitt usbhid hid snd_hrtimer 8021q mrp
          garp stp

          llc snd_hda_codec_hdmi intel_powerclamp snd_hda_codec_realtek
          kvm_intel

          thinkpad_acpi snd_hda_intel kvm snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi
          snd_hwdep

          arc4 snd_rawmidi snd_pcm snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_timer
          iwldvm

          snd_seq_device mac80211 snd nvram btusb tpm_tis microcode
          iwlwifi

          cfg80211 bnep psmouse rfcomm uvcvideo parport_pc bluetooth
          serio_raw

          videobuf2_core ppdev cdc_mbim lpc_ich lp parport videodev

          videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops cdc_ncm soundcore usbnet

          snd_page_alloc nfsd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss cdc_acm cdc_wdm nfs
          fscache

          lockd binfmt_misc sunrpc mac_hid ext2 lm75 coretemp dm_crypt
          i915

          crc32_pclmul ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel drm_kms_helper
          ablk_helper

          cryptd drm lrw g

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: f128mul e1000e glue_helper

          i2c_algo_bit wmi aes_x86_64 video sdhci_pci ptp sdhci pps_core
          ahci

          libahci [last unloaded: ipmi_msghandler]

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640160] CPU: 3 PID:
          24816

          Comm: kworker/u16:0 Tainted: G        W    3.10.0-999-generic
          #201305190405

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640162] Hardware
          name: LENOVO

          23252GG/23252GG, BIOS G2ET86WW (2.06 ) 11/13/2012

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640171] Workqueue:
          phy0

          ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640173] 
          ffffffffa0541498

          ffff880163da5898 ffffffff816c1e98 ffff880163da58d8

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640176] 
          ffffffff81044c70

          0000000000000001 ffff880163da59e0 ffff88020c18e800

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640190] 
          0000000000000810

          ffff880212129070 0000000000000000 ffff880163da58e8

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640197] Call Trace:

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640245] 
          [<ffffffff816c1e98>]

          dump_stack+0x19/0x1b

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640252] 
          [<ffffffff81044c70>]

          warn_slowpath_common+0x70/0xa0

          Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640273] 
          [<ffffffff81044cba>]

          warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20

          

          

          I'm on ietf-v6ONLY (2.4GHz) and running a 3.10.0 64bit Kernel,
          works

          fine at the moment.

          

          -dominik

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On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Alexandru Petrescu =
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> I wonder whether someone gets an advantage of this new scheme.  I
> personally dont.  Is it that the hotel Breakfast is more comfortable
> than IETF hallways Breakfast?
>=20

I'm not sure what's new about this scheme. We did something similar in =
Maastricht, Stockholm and Beijing if I recall correctly. (I'm sure there =
are others.)

I much prefer the opportunity to have a hot breakfast sitting down at a =
table. The usual North America approach of trying to grab a carb-bomb =
before they all disappear, then trying eat it while standing up and =
juggling a beverage is not my idea of fun.=

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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 12:00 PM
> To: 87attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast?
>=20
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Alexandru Petrescu
>  wrote:
>=20
> > I wonder whether someone gets an advantage of this new scheme.  I
> > personally dont.  Is it that the hotel Breakfast is more comfortable
> > than IETF hallways Breakfast?
> >
>=20
> I'm not sure what's new about this scheme. We did something similar in
> Maastricht, Stockholm and Beijing if I recall correctly. (I'm sure
> there are others.)
>=20
> I much prefer the opportunity to have a hot breakfast sitting down at a
> table. The usual North America approach of trying to grab a carb-bomb
> before they all disappear, then trying eat it while standing up and
> juggling a beverage is not my idea of fun.
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It is not a new scheme.

It is exactly the same scheme as you had for IETF meetings in Paris, Prague=
 and probably other Europe based meetings before that.

It was also clear in the IETF hotel information - one way of matching your =
requirements is to book your hotel using a non-IETF rate.

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Alexandru Petrescu
> Sent: 29 July 2013 16:08
> To: Randall Gellens
> Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast?
>=20
> Le 29/07/2013 16:38, Randall Gellens a =E9crit :
> > At 11:05 AM +0200 7/29/13, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
> >
> >> Le 29/07/2013 10:58, Scott Brim a =E9crit :
> >>> On 07/29/13 10:57, Mishra, Sanjay allegedly wrote:
> >>>> It is for IETF participants staying at Intercontinental. At the
> >>>> entrance to the Caf=E9, the attendant asks for your room number
> >>>> and verifies it against the printed guest list.
> >>>
> >>> A procedure like this is common across the globe where some room
> >>>  rates include breakfast and others don't.
> >>
> >> Hmm... yes and no.
> >>
> >> Whereas it may be common that some room rates include breakfast
> >> others dont, the link with the event is new to me.
> >
> > There isn't a link to an event, but rather, the IETF negotiated a
> > rate that includes breakfast. If you are staying at the
> > Intercontinental and booked using the IETF rate, then you get
> > breakfast included.  If you are not booked using the IETF rate, then
> > it does not matter that you are attending the IETF, it only matters
> > if your rate includes breakfast.
>=20
> I think I understand.
>=20
> I wonder whether someone gets an advantage of this new scheme.  I
> personally dont.  Is it that the hotel Breakfast is more comfortable
> than IETF hallways Breakfast?
>=20
> I wonder whether the organizers arrived at this scheme by a need of
> saving on expenses or by some other reason.
>=20
> Alex
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Subject: Re: [87attendees] Anyone using Fedora 18 on the IETF wifi?
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Hi,

(sorry guys, wrong address for list posting)

Although I'm using a Debian, I have similar issues depending on which AP 
I associate to. I'm using the packaged kernel from unstable whose name 
is linux-image-3.10-1-amd64 and whose version is 3.10.3-1

> rsyslogd is going crazy on my system (Fedora 17) on the ietf network to
> the point the system locks.  It is running my CPU up to 98% and my temp
> to 83 degrees.

As a workaround, you can try sticking to an AP address that does not 
make the system go crazy.

For example:
sudo iwconfig wlan0 ap 2c:36:f8:dd:6d:c2

My system here started going down as soon as it reassociated to the AP 
2c:36:f8:dd:f3:72

Here is a list of associations that happened on my box, in decreasing 
time order. When the association changed for the last time (top line), 
kernel oops started appearing 50ms later.

Jul 30 00:56:14 jean-n0 kernel: [  809.629797] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 
2c:36:f8:dd:f3:72 (capab=0x101 status=0 aid=6) [crashed]
Jul 30 00:54:10 jean-n0 kernel: [  685.547804] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 
00:27:0d:ab:89:e2 (capab=0x101 status=0 aid=3) [worked]
Jul 30 00:46:01 jean-n0 kernel: [  196.356296] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 
2c:36:f8:dd:6d:c2 (capab=0x101 status=0 aid=25) [worked]
Jul 30 00:44:52 jean-n0 kernel: [  127.607454] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 
2c:36:f8:dd:6d:c2 (capab=0x101 status=0 aid=25) [worked]

I'm available for more tests if needed.

Hope this helps,
Jean

PS: an example of oops
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158721] ------------[ cut here 
]------------
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158726] WARNING: at 
/build/linux-39ErJp/linux-3.10.3/net/mac80211/mlme.c:366 
ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x25d/0x2ea [mac80211]()
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158727] Modules linked in: ath3k 
btusb parport_pc ppdev lp parport bbswitch(O) bnep rfcomm bluetooth 
binfmt_misc uinput nls_utf8 nls_cp437 vfat fat loop fuse joydev uvcvideo 
coretemp videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops kvm_intel videobuf2_core 
videodev media snd_hda_codec_hdmi arc4 ath9k snd_hda_codec_realtek i915 
kvm drm_kms_helper drm ath9k_common ath9k_hw ath snd_hda_intel 
snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep snd_pcm snd_page_alloc i2c_i801 i2c_algo_bit 
i2c_core snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_timer snd mac80211 cfg80211 video 
crc32c_intel ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel aes_x86_64 ablk_helper 
cryptd lrw gf128mul glue_helper mperf dell_laptop microcode mei_me 
iTCO_wdt psmouse iTCO_vendor_support rfkill lpc_ich efivars pcspkr 
dell_wmi sparse_keymap rtsx_pci_ms memstick wmi processor soundcore 
battery button ac thermal_sys dcdbas evdev serio_raw mei ext4 crc16 jbd2 
mbcache md_mod sg sr_mod cdrom sd_mod crc_t10dif rtsx_pci_sdmmc ahci 
libahci libata scsi_mod r8169 mii sdhci_pci sdhci mmc_core rtsx_pci 
mfd_core ehci_pci ehci_hcd xhci_hcd usbcore usb_common
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158760] CPU: 0 PID: 235 Comm: 
kworker/u16:5 Tainted: G        W  O 3.10-1-amd64 #1 Debian 3.10.3-1
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158761] Hardware name: Dell Inc. 
XPS L521X/029M77, BIOS A13 12/07/2012
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158765] Workqueue: phy0 
ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158765]  0000000000000000 
ffffffff8103bb5f 0000000000000000 ffff8802530adb20
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158767]  0000000000000810 
ffff8802530ada88 ffff880253f3a800 ffffffffa03ba27d
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158769]  0000000000000000 
ffff88025290b080 ffff880251d2c440 0000167100000000
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158771] Call Trace:
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158772]  [] ? 
warn_slowpath_common+0x5b/0x70
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158778]  [] ? 
ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x25d/0x2ea [mac80211]
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158785]  [] ? 
ieee80211_rx_mgmt_beacon+0xa60/0xa95 [mac80211]
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158792]  [] ? 
ieee80211_sta_rx_queued_mgmt+0xc7/0x5a3 [mac80211]
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158794]  [] ? 
find_busiest_group+0x23/0x1d0
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158796]  [] ? 
load_balance+0xb1/0x5ca
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158801]  [] ? 
ieee80211_iface_work+0x22e/0x2eb [mac80211]
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158803]  [] ? 
process_one_work+0x18b/0x287
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158805]  [] ? 
worker_thread+0x121/0x1e7
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158806]  [] ? 
rescuer_thread+0x265/0x265
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158808]  [] ? 
kthread+0x7d/0x85
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158810]  [] ? 
do_exit+0x901/0x918
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158812]  [] ? 
__kthread_parkme+0x59/0x59
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158814]  [] ? 
ret_from_fork+0x7c/0xb0
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158815]  [] ? 
__kthread_parkme+0x59/0x59
Jul 30 00:57:27 jean-n0 kernel: [  883.158816] ---[ end trace 
7e4d6512780f0e9d ]---



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Maybe they should the Tao (http://www.ietf.org/tao.html)

     "It's unwise to get between a hungry IETFer (and there isn't any 
other kind) and coffee break brownies and cookies, no matter how 
interesting the hallway conversation. "

Regards, Benoti
> The hotel catering staff does not understand consumption of coke by ietfers.  In the reception and the break the available coke disappeared within the first few minutes.  Last night, they managed to get some more near the end of the event, but did not manage to do that today.
>
> They also seem to think that putting cookies out in trays of 10 or so makes sense.  Trays of 100 make sense, not 10.
>
> The quality of the food is good, but we are lacking quantity.
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> I am guessing the Secretariat told them what would happen and the hotel didn't believe them.
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On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Rosen, Brian  wr=
ote:
> The hotel catering staff does not understand consumption of coke by ietfe=
rs.  In the reception and the break the available coke disappeared within t=
he first few minutes.  Last night, they managed to get some more near the e=
nd of the event, but did not manage to do that today.

Unless you really emphasize it and monitor them closely, hotel and the
like ALWAYS get this wrong. They seem to have an irresistible
compulsion to put out the same amount of each type of bottled/canned
beverage. As usual, I've noticed that the diet/light cola disappears
first very quickly and them the sugared cola. When handling facilities
arrangements for an engineer event. in the USA at least, I always
pound on the catering people to put out at least THREE times as much
diet cola as sugared -- although I suppose the ratio could be
different with higher European attendance -- and despite that they
almost never get it right the first time so you have to get it fixed
during the fact.

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Donald
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es sense.  Trays of 100 make sense, not 10.
>
> The quality of the food is good, but we are lacking quantity.
>
> I am guessing the Secretariat told them what would happen and the hotel d=
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> We did something similar in [...] Beijing
>
> I much prefer the opportunity to have a hot breakfast sitting down at a table.

Indeed.  I think we should truck the Beijing breakfast buffet along
with us everywhere we go.

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My observation today at the break was that the ratio for Coke products was
approximately 3 Sugar Coke per 1 Coke Light.

Clearly this makes little sense in light of beverage IETF consumption
experience.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Donald Eastlake  wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Rosen, Brian 
> wrote:
> > The hotel catering staff does not understand consumption of coke by
> ietfers.  In the reception and the break the available coke disappeared
> within the first few minutes.  Last night, they managed to get some more
> near the end of the event, but did not manage to do that today.
>
> Unless you really emphasize it and monitor them closely, hotel and the
> like ALWAYS get this wrong. They seem to have an irresistible
> compulsion to put out the same amount of each type of bottled/canned
> beverage. As usual, I've noticed that the diet/light cola disappears
> first very quickly and them the sugared cola. When handling facilities
> arrangements for an engineer event. in the USA at least, I always
> pound on the catering people to put out at least THREE times as much
> diet cola as sugared -- although I suppose the ratio could be
> different with higher European attendance -- and despite that they
> almost never get it right the first time so you have to get it fixed
> during the fact.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
> =============================
>  Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>  155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA
>  d3e3e3@gmail.com
>
> > They also seem to think that putting cookies out in trays of 10 or so
> makes sense.  Trays of 100 make sense, not 10.
> >
> > The quality of the food is good, but we are lacking quantity.
> >
> > I am guessing the Secretariat told them what would happen and the hotel
> didn't believe them.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
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My observation today at the break was that the ratio for C=
oke products was approximately 3 Sugar Coke per 1 Coke Light.=A0

Clearly this makes little sense in light of beverage IETF consumpt=
ion experience.




On Mon,=
 Jul 29, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>=
 wrote:


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12=
:21 PM, Rosen, Brian <Brian.R=
osen@neustar.biz> wrote:


> The hotel catering staff does not understand consumption of coke by ie=
tfers. =A0In the reception and the break the available coke disappeared wit=
hin the first few minutes. =A0Last night, they managed to get some more nea=
r the end of the event, but did not manage to do that today.





Unless you really emphasize it and monitor them closely, hotel and th=
e

like ALWAYS get this wrong. They seem to have an irresistible

compulsion to put out the same amount of each type of bottled/canned

beverage. As usual, I've noticed that the diet/light cola disappears
first very quickly and them the sugared cola. When handling facilities

arrangements for an engineer event. in the USA at least, I always

pound on the catering people to put out at least THREE times as much

diet cola as sugared -- although I suppose the ratio could be

different with higher European attendance -- and despite that they

almost never get it right the first time so you have to get it fixed

during the fact.



Thanks,

Donald

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=A0Donald E. Eastlake 3rd =A0 +1-508-333-2270 (cell)

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=A0d3e3e3@gmail.com




> They also seem to think that putting cookies out in trays of 10 or so =
makes sense. =A0Trays of 100 make sense, not 10.

>

> The quality of the food is good, but we are lacking quantity.

>

> I am guessing the Secretariat told them what would happen and the hote=
l didn't believe them.

>

> Brian

>

>

>

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+1 from me and the Intercontinental hotel breakfast is excellent.  One of t=
he best in recent memory. =20

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At 5:59 PM +0200 7/29/13, Ben Campbell wrote:

>  I'm not sure what's new about this scheme. We did something similar 
> in Maastricht, Stockholm and Beijing if I recall correctly. (I'm 
> sure there are others.)
>
>  I much prefer the opportunity to have a hot breakfast sitting down 
> at a table. The usual North America approach of trying to grab a 
> carb-bomb before they all disappear, then trying eat it while 
> standing up and juggling a beverage is not my idea of fun.

I completely agree.  Also, sometimes the IETF meetings are not in the 
same building as the hotel.  I personally prefer to have breakfast 
early, then return to my room to brush my teeth, shower, shave and 
get ready.  I dislike doing things in a different order.  I also hate 
having food in my teeth.

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On 07/29/2013 05:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Fedora people hit by this bug, please try out the kernel at:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5583914

Please give feedback to the below bugzilla item, or me

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=981445

Paul



> On 07/29/2013 10:40 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> Yes, that is what I see...  Over and over.  Hard to type that into my
>> phone.  :-)
>>
>> I have a 3.9.10-200 kernel.  Do you not get that from the 3.10 kernel?
>>  Maybe location matters?
>>
>> I can try to update my kernel after I get out of appsarea.
> 
> rsyslogd is going crazy on my system (Fedora 17) on the ietf network to
> the point the system locks.  It is running my CPU up to 98% and my temp
> to 83 degrees.
> 
> I am fine on the hotel network.  I was on the ietf-a, and thought that
> was the problem, so I switched to the ietf plain and same thing. 
> /var/logs/messages is now 5.6GB!  I hope that logrotate works tonight!
> 
>>
>> -derek
>>
>> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G
>>
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Dominik Bay" 
>> To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>
>> Subject: [87attendees] Anyone using Fedora 18 on the IETF wifi?
>> Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 10:36 AM
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/29/2013 10:27 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> > If so please contact me offline.
>> >
>> > My laptop is throwing a continuous stream of errors filling my messages
>> > log and brining my machine to a grinding halt.  It seems to be a warning
>> > from the 80211 stack trying to determine the channel type. I am curious
>> > if anyone else sees this or if it is just me?  I have tried 2 versions
>> > of the kernel to no avail, yet.  To keep my laptop usable I need to turn
>> > off the radio by switch before I boot up. Once it gets into the loop
>> > there seems to be no way to get out short of shutting down.  Maybe a
>> > different location (I'm in Charlottenburg 2/3) might help?
>>
>> I'm in Potsdam 1 now, I've seen my Linux system freeze after leaving
>> OpSec. Maybe this was the issue that you see too.
>>
>> I see this:
>>
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639917] WARNING: at
>> /home/apw/COD/linux/net/mac80211/mlme.c:366
>> ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x25f/0x390 [mac80211]()
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639920] Modules linked in:
>> xt_TCPMSS xt_tcpmss xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ip_tables x_tables
>> nls_iso8859_1 omfs jfs xfs libcrc32c reiserfs hfs hfsplus isofs nls_utf8
>> udf crc_itu_t mmc_block usb_storage ipheth ppp_deflate zlib_deflate
>> bsd_comp ppp_async crc_ccitt usbhid hid snd_hrtimer 8021q mrp garp stp
>> llc snd_hda_codec_hdmi intel_powerclamp snd_hda_codec_realtek kvm_intel
>> thinkpad_acpi snd_hda_intel kvm snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi snd_hwdep
>> arc4 snd_rawmidi snd_pcm snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_timer iwldvm
>> snd_seq_device mac80211 snd nvram btusb tpm_tis microcode iwlwifi
>> cfg80211 bnep psmouse rfcomm uvcvideo parport_pc bluetooth serio_raw
>> videobuf2_core ppdev cdc_mbim lpc_ich lp parport videodev
>> videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops cdc_ncm soundcore usbnet
>> snd_page_alloc nfsd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss cdc_acm cdc_wdm nfs fscache
>> lockd binfmt_misc sunrpc mac_hid ext2 lm75 coretemp dm_crypt i915
>> crc32_pclmul ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel drm_kms_helper ablk_helper
>> cryptd drm lrw g
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: f128mul e1000e glue_helper
>> i2c_algo_bit wmi aes_x86_64 video sdhci_pci ptp sdhci pps_core ahci
>> libahci [last unloaded: ipmi_msghandler]
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640160] CPU: 3 PID: 24816
>> Comm: kworker/u16:0 Tainted: G        W    3.10.0-999-generic
>> #201305190405
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640162] Hardware name: LENOVO
>> 23252GG/23252GG, BIOS G2ET86WW (2.06 ) 11/13/2012
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640171] Workqueue: phy0
>> ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640173]  ffffffffa0541498
>> ffff880163da5898 ffffffff816c1e98 ffff880163da58d8
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640176]  ffffffff81044c70
>> 0000000000000001 ffff880163da59e0 ffff88020c18e800
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640190]  0000000000000810
>> ffff880212129070 0000000000000000 ffff880163da58e8
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640197] Call Trace:
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640245]  []
>> dump_stack+0x19/0x1b
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640252]  []
>> warn_slowpath_common+0x70/0xa0
>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640273]  []
>> warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20
>>
>>
>> I'm on ietf-v6ONLY (2.4GHz) and running a 3.10.0 64bit Kernel, works
>> fine at the moment.
>>
>> -dominik
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+1 to more coke  :-) =20

It even goes well with Breakfast (for a charge though)!

-----Original Message-----
From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On=
 Behalf Of Rosen, Brian
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 6:21 PM
To: '87attendees'
Subject: [87attendees] Coke at breaks

The hotel catering staff does not understand consumption of coke by ietfers=
.  In the reception and the break the available coke disappeared within the=
 first few minutes.  Last night, they managed to get some more near the end=
 of the event, but did not manage to do that today.

They also seem to think that putting cookies out in trays of 10 or so makes=
 sense.  Trays of 100 make sense, not 10.

The quality of the food is good, but we are lacking quantity.

I am guessing the Secretariat told them what would happen and the hotel did=
n't believe them.

Brian



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Yes, and I think we need to bring Chef Eric along with the buffet.


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Yes, and I think we need to bring Chef Eric along with the=
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> We did something similar in [...] Beiji=
ng

>

> I much prefer the opportunity to have a hot breakfast sitting down at =
a table.



Indeed. =A0I think we should truck the Beijing breakfast buffet along

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On Jul 29, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Barry Leiba  wrote:

> Indeed.  I think we should truck the Beijing breakfast buffet along
> with us everywhere we go.

While not quite Beijing, the Intercontinental's spread is far from shabby.

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I'm puzzled by the observation that IETFers consume far more diet 
versions of soda than sugared versions.  This seems illogical given 
IETFers well-known proclivity for massive consumption of 
massively-sugared (some might say over-sugared) snacks.


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On 7/29/2013 6:49 PM, Mary Barnes wrote:
> Yes, and I think we need to bring Chef Eric along with the buffet.


 From what I heard back then, he'd probably make the trip, just for you.

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Also, one should not overlook the fact that Coke in Germany contains Zucker=
 and not High Fructose Corn Syrup as in US versions. =20

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I'm puzzled by the observation that IETFers consume far more diet versions =
of soda than sugared versions.  This seems illogical given IETFers well-kno=
wn proclivity for massive consumption of massively-sugared (some might say =
over-sugared) snacks.


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On 7/29/13 17:59, Ben Campbell wrote:
> I much prefer the opportunity to have a hot breakfast sitting down at a table.

Absolutely.

/a

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Any security guys here? I think it is good to know more people (newcomers or
old IETFers) who are interested in security. I would like to know more
people who are concerned about security and work in this area. If you are
available, let's meet and get to know one another better.

I am also interested in finding people who are familiar with Secure Neighbor
Discovery (SeND). I have a good proposal which will improve SeND and I am
looking forward to finding security people who are interested in this
discussion topic specifically and in security topics in general.

If you are, just ping me and we can meet and get to know each other :-). Of
course I do not know all the security guys who attended in IETF, so I look
forward to the opportunity of meeting more of you.

Thanks, 
Best,
Hosnieh


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On 7/29/2013 7:14 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
> On 7/29/13 17:59, Ben Campbell wrote:
>> I much prefer the opportunity to have a hot breakfast sitting down at
>> a table.
>
> Absolutely.


There's been an interesting line of consistent support for this.  It 
suggests that the IETF should stop serving breakfasts, in those venues 
we otherwise would.

Note, of course, that in those venues, each of us will have to /pay/ for 
the breakfast directly.

d/
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Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net

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I do. the last 2 days in particular after 10PM.


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I do. the last 2 days in particular after 10PM.


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On the wired network? Haven't noticed any.=20

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Nope, apologies, on the wireless network - "event".

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At 7:04 PM +0200 7/29/13, Dave Crocker wrote:

>  On 7/29/2013 6:49 PM, Mary Barnes wrote:
>>  Yes, and I think we need to bring Chef Eric along with the buffet.
>
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>  From what I heard back then, he'd probably make the trip, just for you.

Ooh, IETF gossip?  Do tell!


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Hi.

 

As you may know, we are organizing a tutorial in order to talk about the
characteristics of the traffic of online games (within the Transport Area
Open Meeting, Thursday 0900-1130.

 

We will also talk about subjective quality, so we are looking for:

 

- 2 people able to play Counter Strike (a certain skill level is required)

- 2 people able to play World of Warcraft (a certain skill level is
required)

 

If we have time, we will also play an online car race, so we may need:

- 5 people able to play an online car race (no special skills required). In
this last case, they can be in the room, or even at home.

 

If you have played Counter Strike or World of Warcraft and you want to
collaborate, please tell us.

 

For the car race, inexperienced players are also ok.

 

Thanks a lot!

 

Jose & Mirko

PS: If you have not seen the video yet, you can see it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAnW9HTkbsI

 


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level is required)
 
If we have time, we will also play an online car race, so =
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skills required). In this last case, they can be in the room, or even at =
home.
 
If you have played Counter Strike or World of Warcraft and =
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For the car race, inexperienced =
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On 07/29/13 21:10, Randall Gellens allegedly wrote:
> At 7:04 PM +0200 7/29/13, Dave Crocker wrote:
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>>  On 7/29/2013 6:49 PM, Mary Barnes wrote:
>>>  Yes, and I think we need to bring Chef Eric along with the buffet.
>>
>>
>>  From what I heard back then, he'd probably make the trip, just for you.
> 
> Ooh, IETF gossip?  Do tell!

Oh good, I get to hear this again.


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At 7:36 PM +0200 7/29/13, Hosnieh Rafiee wrote:

>  Any security guys here? I think it is good to know more people (newcomers or
>  old IETFers) who are interested in security. I would like to know more
>  people who are concerned about security and work in this area. If you are
>  available, let's meet and get to know one another better.

Have you gone to any Security Area meetings?  You might especially 
try SAAG on Thursday, but really, I'd expect that pretty much any 
Security Area session to have at least a few security people around. 
Not to mention many other sessions :-)

Also, look for anyone eating a lot of cookies and speaking really, 
really fast.  Those seem to be associated with being a security 
person.

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At 7:38 PM +0200 7/29/13, Dave Crocker wrote:

>  On 7/29/2013 7:14 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
>>  On 7/29/13 17:59, Ben Campbell wrote:
>>>  I much prefer the opportunity to have a hot breakfast sitting down at
>>>  a table.
>>
>>  Absolutely.
>
>
>  There's been an interesting line of consistent support for this. 
> It suggests that the IETF should stop serving breakfasts, in those 
> venues we otherwise would.
>
>  Note, of course, that in those venues, each of us will have to 
> /pay/ for the breakfast directly.

I'm not sure your second paragraph follows from the first.  I'd say 
the consistent support suggests that the IETF should always negotiate 
hot, full breakfasts in the hotel rate.  Since virtually every hotel 
everywhere routinely offers many packages that include breakfast, 
this shouldn't by itself be a problem.

What would be a problem would be for the IETF to try and mandate a 
breakfast at a North American venue that is on par with what is 
considered standard at 4- and 5-star hotels in Asia and Europe.

-- 
Randall Gellens
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> I'm puzzled by the observation that IETFers consume far more diet version=
s of soda than sugared versions.

As long as all the crap the diet versions contain don't come out when peopl=
e stand behind the microphones... ;)

Regards,

Christer


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On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Adam Montville wrote:

> Nope, apologies, on the wireless network - "event".

No, but that's because I switched to the wired network.  The hotel's 
normal wireless may also work a bit better for you.

For more details, see Ray's note to 87all a few days ago, Jim Martin's 
recent network info note, or the network information page accessible 
on ietf.org.

-- Sam


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On 07/29/13 21:55, Samuel Weiler allegedly wrote:
> No, but that's because I switched to the wired network.

Me too.  Just try it -- they gave me a code but tonight I didn't need
it.  Maybe Sam signed us in for the whole floor.


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Somewhere in the vicinity of the Greek restaurant across the road from
the hotel I appear to have lost my reading glasses :-( They were in a
maroon case, if anyone came across them I would much appreciate hearing
from you.

Keith

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On 7/29/13 9:45 AM, Ben Campbell wrote:
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Dave Crocker  wrote: 
>> Note, of course, that in those venues, each of us will have to
>> /pay/ for the breakfast directly.
> I would be perfectly happy with this, assuming the (I assume we're
> talking about NA) hotels can provide high quality, speedy breakfasts
> at scale, on par with what we tend to find in non-NA venues.

Right, and the truth is that I often go to the restaurant
for a proper (i.e. huge) breakfast, anyway, and I always see
a large number of other IETFers in the restaurant, as well.
It may be that most people still prefer the IETF-provided
breakfast but this may be a question worth revisiting.

Melinda


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Melinda Shore
No Mountain Software
melinda.shore@nomountain.net

"Software longa, hardware brevis."

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We took this tour which was recommended by a friend. Guess what it was
FREE! Guides are passionate about the history and work on tips only. Our
tour guide was Stephanie Taylor (stephanie.taylorcarrillo@gmail.com), a
native of New Zealand who majored in history and has been living in Berlin
for the last four years doing research in history and working on writing a
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On Jul 29, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Barry Leiba  wrote:
> Indeed.  I think we should truck the Beijing breakfast buffet along
> with us everywhere we go.

All we have to do is have all our IETFs in the Shangri-la hotel chain.   Th=
eir breakfasts are great everywhere we go.   The best one I've encountered =
was in Delhi.


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On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Melinda Shore  w=
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> Right, and the truth is that I often go to the restaurant
> for a proper (i.e. huge) breakfast, anyway, and I always see
> a large number of other IETFers in the restaurant, as well.

I do the same.  I would far rather my meeting fees be reduced by the cost of=
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Hi jose

I can be a volunteer to play counter strike conosco the game from the
beginning and understand certain problems that arise

Raitme Citterio


2013/7/29 Jose Saldana 

> Hi.****
>
> ** **
>
> As you may know, we are organizing a tutorial in order to talk about the
> characteristics of the traffic of online games (within the Transport Area
> Open Meeting, Thursday 0900-1130.****
>
> ** **
>
> We will also talk about subjective quality, so we are looking for:****
>
> ** **
>
> - 2 people able to play Counter Strike (a certain skill level is required)
> ****
>
> - 2 people able to play World of Warcraft (a certain skill level is
> required)****
>
> ** **
>
> If we have time, we will also play an online car race, so we may need:****
>
> - 5 people able to play an online car race (no special skills required).
> In this last case, they can be in the room, or even at home.****
>
> ** **
>
> If you have played Counter Strike or World of Warcraft and you want to
> collaborate, please tell us.****
>
> ** **
>
> For the car race, inexperienced players are also ok.****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks a lot!****
>
> ** **
>
> Jose & Mirko****
>
> PS: If you have not seen the video yet, you can see it here:
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Hi jose=A0

I can be a volunteer to play=
 counter strike conosco the game from the beginning and understand certain =
problems that arise




Raitme Citterio



2013/7/29 Jose Saldana <jsaldana@uniza=
r.es>




Hi.
=A0
As you may know, we are organizing a tutorial in order to t=
alk about the characteristics of the traffic of online games (within the Tr=
ansport Area Open Meeting, Thursday 0900-1130.



=A0
We will also talk about subjective=
 quality, so we are looking for:
=A0



- 2 people able to play Counter=
 Strike (a certain skill level is required)
- 2 people able to play World of Warcr=
aft (a certain skill level is required)



=A0
If we have time, we will also play=
 an online car race, so we may need:


- 5 people able to play an online car race (no special=
 skills required). In this last case, they can be in the room, or even at h=
ome.
=A0



If you have played Counter Stri=
ke or World of Warcraft and you want to collaborate, please tell us.=

=A0=




For the car race, inexperienced=
 players are also ok.
=A0
Thanks a lot!



=A0
Jose & Mirko
PS: If you have not seen=
 the video yet, you can see it here: http://www=
.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQAnW9HTkbsI



=A0

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On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Randall Gellens  wrote=
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> What would be a problem would be for the IETF to try and mandate a breakf=
ast at a North American venue that is on par with what is considered standa=
rd at 4- and 5-star hotels in Asia and Europe.

Yup.  Breakfast at the Hilton in Quebec City was so bad I demanded a refund=
, which is something I pretty much never do.   But if you're going to charg=
e that much for breakfast, it ought to be edible.


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> I do the same.  I would far rather my meeting fees be reduced by the cost=
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It doesn't work that way, as Ray has explained multiple times in the past. =
  It's all part of the concession negotiation.


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On 07/29/2013 06:48 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On 07/29/2013 05:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
> Fedora people hit by this bug, please try out the kernel at:
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5583914

Grumble.  I need F17.  I plan on skipping 18 and go to 19...

> Please give feedback to the below bugzilla item, or me
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=981445
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>> On 07/29/2013 10:40 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
>>> Yes, that is what I see...  Over and over.  Hard to type that into my
>>> phone.  :-)
>>>
>>> I have a 3.9.10-200 kernel.  Do you not get that from the 3.10 kernel?
>>>   Maybe location matters?
>>>
>>> I can try to update my kernel after I get out of appsarea.
>> rsyslogd is going crazy on my system (Fedora 17) on the ietf network to
>> the point the system locks.  It is running my CPU up to 98% and my temp
>> to 83 degrees.
>>
>> I am fine on the hotel network.  I was on the ietf-a, and thought that
>> was the problem, so I switched to the ietf plain and same thing.
>> /var/logs/messages is now 5.6GB!  I hope that logrotate works tonight!
>>
>>> -derek
>>>
>>> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Dominik Bay" 
>>> To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>
>>> Subject: [87attendees] Anyone using Fedora 18 on the IETF wifi?
>>> Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 10:36 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/29/2013 10:27 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
>>>> If so please contact me offline.
>>>>
>>>> My laptop is throwing a continuous stream of errors filling my messages
>>>> log and brining my machine to a grinding halt.  It seems to be a warning
>>>> from the 80211 stack trying to determine the channel type. I am curious
>>>> if anyone else sees this or if it is just me?  I have tried 2 versions
>>>> of the kernel to no avail, yet.  To keep my laptop usable I need to turn
>>>> off the radio by switch before I boot up. Once it gets into the loop
>>>> there seems to be no way to get out short of shutting down.  Maybe a
>>>> different location (I'm in Charlottenburg 2/3) might help?
>>> I'm in Potsdam 1 now, I've seen my Linux system freeze after leaving
>>> OpSec. Maybe this was the issue that you see too.
>>>
>>> I see this:
>>>
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639917] WARNING: at
>>> /home/apw/COD/linux/net/mac80211/mlme.c:366
>>> ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x25f/0x390 [mac80211]()
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639920] Modules linked in:
>>> xt_TCPMSS xt_tcpmss xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ip_tables x_tables
>>> nls_iso8859_1 omfs jfs xfs libcrc32c reiserfs hfs hfsplus isofs nls_utf8
>>> udf crc_itu_t mmc_block usb_storage ipheth ppp_deflate zlib_deflate
>>> bsd_comp ppp_async crc_ccitt usbhid hid snd_hrtimer 8021q mrp garp stp
>>> llc snd_hda_codec_hdmi intel_powerclamp snd_hda_codec_realtek kvm_intel
>>> thinkpad_acpi snd_hda_intel kvm snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi snd_hwdep
>>> arc4 snd_rawmidi snd_pcm snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_timer iwldvm
>>> snd_seq_device mac80211 snd nvram btusb tpm_tis microcode iwlwifi
>>> cfg80211 bnep psmouse rfcomm uvcvideo parport_pc bluetooth serio_raw
>>> videobuf2_core ppdev cdc_mbim lpc_ich lp parport videodev
>>> videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops cdc_ncm soundcore usbnet
>>> snd_page_alloc nfsd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss cdc_acm cdc_wdm nfs fscache
>>> lockd binfmt_misc sunrpc mac_hid ext2 lm75 coretemp dm_crypt i915
>>> crc32_pclmul ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel drm_kms_helper ablk_helper
>>> cryptd drm lrw g
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: f128mul e1000e glue_helper
>>> i2c_algo_bit wmi aes_x86_64 video sdhci_pci ptp sdhci pps_core ahci
>>> libahci [last unloaded: ipmi_msghandler]
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640160] CPU: 3 PID: 24816
>>> Comm: kworker/u16:0 Tainted: G        W    3.10.0-999-generic
>>> #201305190405
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640162] Hardware name: LENOVO
>>> 23252GG/23252GG, BIOS G2ET86WW (2.06 ) 11/13/2012
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640171] Workqueue: phy0
>>> ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640173]  ffffffffa0541498
>>> ffff880163da5898 ffffffff816c1e98 ffff880163da58d8
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640176]  ffffffff81044c70
>>> 0000000000000001 ffff880163da59e0 ffff88020c18e800
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640190]  0000000000000810
>>> ffff880212129070 0000000000000000 ffff880163da58e8
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640197] Call Trace:
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640245]  []
>>> dump_stack+0x19/0x1b
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640252]  []
>>> warn_slowpath_common+0x70/0xa0
>>> Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640273]  []
>>> warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm on ietf-v6ONLY (2.4GHz) and running a 3.10.0 64bit Kernel, works
>>> fine at the moment.
>>>
>>> -dominik
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 87attendees@ietf.org
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>>>
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>> -- 
>> Standard Robert Moskowitz
>> Senior Technical Advisor
>> Security & Standards
>> Verizon Business Systems
>> C:      248-928-6233
>> F:      248-968-2824
>> E:      robert.moskowitz@verizon.com
>>
>> There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who
>> gets the credit
>>
>>
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-- 
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On 07/29/2013 06:48 PM, Paul Wouters
      wrote:

    

    

      
On 07/29/2013 05:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Fedora people hit by this bug, please try out the kernel at:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5583914

    

    

    Grumble.  I need F17.  I plan on skipping 18 and go to 19...

    

    

      
Please give feedback to the below bugzilla item, or me

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=981445

Paul





      

        
On 07/29/2013 10:40 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:


        

          
Yes, that is what I see...  Over and over.  Hard to type that into my
phone.  :-)

I have a 3.9.10-200 kernel.  Do you not get that from the 3.10 kernel?
 Maybe location matters?

I can try to update my kernel after I get out of appsarea.


        

        
rsyslogd is going crazy on my system (Fedora 17) on the ietf network to
the point the system locks.  It is running my CPU up to 98% and my temp
to 83 degrees.

I am fine on the hotel network.  I was on the ietf-a, and thought that
was the problem, so I switched to the ietf plain and same thing. 
/var/logs/messages is now 5.6GB!  I hope that logrotate works tonight!



        

          
-derek

Sent from my HTC EVO 4G


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To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>
Subject: [87attendees] Anyone using Fedora 18 on the IETF wifi?
Date: Mon, Jul 29, 2013 10:36 AM



On 07/29/2013 10:27 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:


          

            
If so please contact me offline.

My laptop is throwing a continuous stream of errors filling my messages
log and brining my machine to a grinding halt.  It seems to be a warning
from the 80211 stack trying to determine the channel type. I am curious
if anyone else sees this or if it is just me?  I have tried 2 versions
of the kernel to no avail, yet.  To keep my laptop usable I need to turn
off the radio by switch before I boot up. Once it gets into the loop
there seems to be no way to get out short of shutting down.  Maybe a
different location (I'm in Charlottenburg 2/3) might help?


          

          
I'm in Potsdam 1 now, I've seen my Linux system freeze after leaving
OpSec. Maybe this was the issue that you see too.

I see this:

Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639917] WARNING: at
/home/apw/COD/linux/net/mac80211/mlme.c:366
ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x25f/0x390 [mac80211]()
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.639920] Modules linked in:
xt_TCPMSS xt_tcpmss xt_tcpudp iptable_mangle ip_tables x_tables
nls_iso8859_1 omfs jfs xfs libcrc32c reiserfs hfs hfsplus isofs nls_utf8
udf crc_itu_t mmc_block usb_storage ipheth ppp_deflate zlib_deflate
bsd_comp ppp_async crc_ccitt usbhid hid snd_hrtimer 8021q mrp garp stp
llc snd_hda_codec_hdmi intel_powerclamp snd_hda_codec_realtek kvm_intel
thinkpad_acpi snd_hda_intel kvm snd_hda_codec snd_seq_midi snd_hwdep
arc4 snd_rawmidi snd_pcm snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_timer iwldvm
snd_seq_device mac80211 snd nvram btusb tpm_tis microcode iwlwifi
cfg80211 bnep psmouse rfcomm uvcvideo parport_pc bluetooth serio_raw
videobuf2_core ppdev cdc_mbim lpc_ich lp parport videodev
videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops cdc_ncm soundcore usbnet
snd_page_alloc nfsd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss cdc_acm cdc_wdm nfs fscache
lockd binfmt_misc sunrpc mac_hid ext2 lm75 coretemp dm_crypt i915
crc32_pclmul ghash_clmulni_intel aesni_intel drm_kms_helper ablk_helper
cryptd drm lrw g
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: f128mul e1000e glue_helper
i2c_algo_bit wmi aes_x86_64 video sdhci_pci ptp sdhci pps_core ahci
libahci [last unloaded: ipmi_msghandler]
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640160] CPU: 3 PID: 24816
Comm: kworker/u16:0 Tainted: G        W    3.10.0-999-generic
#201305190405
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640162] Hardware name: LENOVO
23252GG/23252GG, BIOS G2ET86WW (2.06 ) 11/13/2012
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640171] Workqueue: phy0
ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640173]  ffffffffa0541498
ffff880163da5898 ffffffff816c1e98 ffff880163da58d8
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640176]  ffffffff81044c70
0000000000000001 ffff880163da59e0 ffff88020c18e800
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640190]  0000000000000810
ffff880212129070 0000000000000000 ffff880163da58e8
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640197] Call Trace:
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640245]  [<ffffffff816c1e98>]
dump_stack+0x19/0x1b
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640252]  [<ffffffff81044c70>]
warn_slowpath_common+0x70/0xa0
Jul 29 09:38:36 fledermaus kernel: [120142.640273]  [<ffffffff81044cba>]
warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20


I'm on ietf-v6ONLY (2.4GHz) and running a 3.10.0 64bit Kernel, works
fine at the moment.

-dominik
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While I wrote the original version of the color tagging that is running
on tools.ietf.org/agenda, it was rewritten by someone else when the
feature was picked up for the datatracker.

The datatracker version depends on a javascript object named IETF
getting created prior to agenda2.js being pulled in. Somewhere along the
line, the code to do that evidently got lost.

For now, you can switch to the tools.ietf.org/agenda version;
unfortunately, you'll have to re-highlight the meetings.

One of these days we'll hopefully make the color tagging portable
between the two systems and transportable to other devices; currently
the color tagging is specific to a specific browser and is not shared
between the two sites.

    Tony Hansen

On 7/29/2013 10:30 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
> Oh, sorry. I hadn't noticed the URL. It works for me in http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/87/
>
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Robert Sparks  wrote:
>
>> It's also broken for me.
>> js yells about "[16:09:26.474] ReferenceError: IETF is not defined @ http://datatracker.ietf.org/js/agenda2.js:61"
>>
>> RjS
>>
>> On 7/29/13 2:25 PM, Yoav Nir wrote:
>>> WFM with Safari on a Mac.
>>>
>>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Stuart Cheshire 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it just me, or is the agenda color coding not working? When I mouse
>>>> over the little color swatch, a popup appears saying "color tag this
>>>> line", but when I click on it, nothing happens.
>>>>
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> Note, of course, that in those venues, each of us will have to /pay/ for the 
> breakfast directly.

I never have anything for breakfast beyond a cup of coffee, so any 
breakfast beyond that is a complete waste of someone's money, preferably 
not mine.

R's,
John

PS: The IETF must arrange everything the way I like it.  Anyone who wants 
anything different is just wrong, and must be ignored.

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Thanks for the feedback to those who responded.  This morning seemed a bit=
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> Have you gone to any Security Area meetings?  You might especially try
SAAG
I will make an appearance there and see what I can learn. Thanks. :-)

> On Thursday, but really, I'd expect that pretty much any Security Area
session to
> have at least a few security people around.
> Not to mention many other sessions :-)
> 
> Also, look for anyone eating a lot of cookies and speaking really, really
fast.
> Those seem to be associated with being a security person.
> 
> 
Hum.. I will study people's eating habits tomorrow in order to try to
discern and corral  some security guys. :-) Thanks for the useful guidance.

Best,
Hosnieh


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Cheers!
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On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:16 AM, "Hosnieh Rafiee"  wrote:

>> Have you gone to any Security Area meetings?  You might especially try=

> SAAG
> I will make an appearance there and see what I can learn. Thanks. :-)
> 
>> On Thursday, but really, I'd expect that pretty much any Security Area=

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>> Not to mention many other sessions :-)
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>> Also, look for anyone eating a lot of cookies and speaking really, rea=
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>> Those seem to be associated with being a security person.
> Hum.. I will study people's eating habits tomorrow in order to try to
> discern and corral  some security guys. :-) Thanks for the useful guida=
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> 
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Le 2013-07-29 23:22, Ted Lemon a écrit :
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Randall Gellens  wrote:
>> What would be a problem would be for the IETF to try and mandate a breakfast at a North American venue that is on par with what is considered standard at 4- and 5-star hotels in Asia and Europe.
>
> Yup.  Breakfast at the Hilton in Quebec City was so bad I demanded a refund, which is something I pretty much never do.   But if you're going to charge that much for breakfast, it ought to be edible.

I just remember the mountains of croissants in the congress centre... 
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Does anyone know of a pharmacy nearby?  I've run out of toothpaste in the
tiny tube I could get through US airport security.

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Does anyone know of a pharmacy nearby? =A0I've run out=
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Hello folks,

Up until now, here on the 7th floor, I have not had problems
using the wireless.  I haven't tried the Ethernet.

Regards,
Charlie P.


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On 30.07.2013 08:35, Richard Barnes wrote:
> Does anyone know of a pharmacy nearby?  I've run out of toothpaste in
> the tiny tube I could get through US airport security.

There's a drugstore called Rossmann at Ansbacher Stra=C3=9Fe, about 5-10 =
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On 07/30/2013 08:35 AM, Richard Barnes wrote:
> Does anyone know of a pharmacy nearby?  I've run out of toothpaste in
> the tiny tube I could get through US airport security.

Technically you don't need a pharmacy but any supermarket
should do.
There is an 'Ullrich' supermarket at Bahnhof Zoo (enter from
the street under the train bridge).
A second choice would be the Kaiser's at Wittenbergplatz.
Wittenbergplatz is the square next to KaDeWe.

Regards,
  Hendrik

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And there is a pharmacy on the way to the Kaiser...

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On 07/30/2013 08:35 AM, Richard Barnes wrote:
> Does anyone know of a pharmacy nearby?  I've run out of toothpaste in
> the tiny tube I could get through US airport security.

Technically you don't need a pharmacy but any supermarket
should do.
There is an 'Ullrich' supermarket at Bahnhof Zoo (enter from
the street under the train bridge).
A second choice would be the Kaiser's at Wittenbergplatz.
Wittenbergplatz is the square next to KaDeWe.

Regards,
  Hendrik
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In Zoologischar garten station there is one. It is in 10-minute walk from
IETF venue. When you go out from hotel. turn left and just straight ahead.
You will see the station. Pass the street (place where you can see bus
stops) and go inside the station building. There are two halls, you go to
the left one and you will find it.

 

 

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Does anyone know of a pharmacy nearby?  I've run out of toothpaste in the
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On Jul 30, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Max Jonas Werner wrote:

> On 30.07.2013 08:35, Richard Barnes wrote:
>> Does anyone know of a pharmacy nearby?  I've run out of toothpaste in
>> the tiny tube I could get through US airport security.
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> There's a drugstore called Rossmann at Ansbacher Stra=DFe, about 5-10 =
min
> by foot: https://goo.gl/maps/bE7u5

Been there.  They don't have the small toothpaste tubes.
But they did have all the meds I needed.

Ray


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Sorry turn right.. Confused with my left and right.

 

From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On
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In Zoologischar garten station there is one. It is in 10-minute walk from
IETF venue. When you go out from hotel. turn left and just straight ahead.
You will see the station. Pass the street (place where you can see bus
stops) and go inside the station building. There are two halls, you go to
the left one and you will find it.

 

 

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Does anyone know of a pharmacy nearby?  I've run out of toothpaste in the
tiny tube I could get through US airport security.


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Sorry turn right…. Confused with my left and =
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In Zoologischar garten station there is one. It is in 10-minute walk =
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ahead. You will see the station. Pass the street (place where you can =
see bus stops) and go inside the station building. There are two halls, =
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Thanks to the excellent service of the Intercontinental, my glasses and =
their case have been reunited.

Thanks!

Ben.

On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:24 PM, Ben Campbell  wrote:

> HI,
>=20
> I seem to have misplaced a black, clamshell eyeglasses case. I've got =
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> Thanks!
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Derek Atkins  writes:

> I was given a suggestion of disabling NetworkManager, and surprisingly
> this actually works!

I've still been using NM but simply turn off networking when the network
stops.  Interestingly, simply running "ifconfig" has been the biggest
problem.  That seems to trigger the issue more than anything else, so I
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(I know, I know, I should be using "ip")
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My belt has suffered a catastrophic failure (separation of buckle and strap=
).  Does anyone know somewhere nearby which would sell decent-quality men's=
 belts?

--
Jonathan Lennox
jonathan@vidyo.com



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On 30.7.2013, at 9.18, Jonathan Lennox  wrote:
> My belt has suffered a catastrophic failure (separation of buckle and =
strap).  Does anyone know somewhere nearby which would sell =
decent-quality men's belts?

KaDeWe has quality (judging by brands at any rate) men's clothing, =
although it's _not_ the cheapest option around.=20

http://www.kadewe.de/en

dunno how badly this directions link breaks..

=
https://maps.google.com/maps?f=3Dd&source=3Ds_d&saddr=3DInterContinental+B=
erlin,+Budapester+Stra=DFe,+Berlin,+Germany&daddr=3DKaDeWe,+Tauentzienstra=
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Anyway, <10min by walking from IC. (There's ton of other purely =
clothing-oriented stores on that same road KaDeWe is on, too, if you =
feel like shopping. The usual international brands..)

Cheers,

-Markus=

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Wired connectivity was good on the 6th floor, and $free.

P.


On 30/07/13 07:47, Charles E. Perkins wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> Up until now, here on the 7th floor, I have not had problems
> using the wireless.  I haven't tried the Ethernet.
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> On 7/29/2013 10:12 PM, Adam Montville wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback to those who responded.  This morning seemed 
>> a bit better - on the wired network anyway.
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>>> On 07/29/13 21:55, Samuel Weiler allegedly wrote:
>>>> No, but that's because I switched to the wired network.
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>>> need it.  Maybe
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One of the best place for shopping is Charlottenburg (wilmersdorf str.) =
good
quality and inexpensive.
But if you want to buy something expensive (you care about brand as well =
to
be original), then Kurf=FCrstendamm str. It is full of fashion shops. =
You can
take a bus 100 from station. Or take subway train (U9 direction Rathaus
steglitz , one stop, get out the train)

If you want to go in a walking distance.  Then you can go just to the =
zoo
bnf but if you plan to go to that area. Go to zoo bnf, take S7 =
(direction
Wansee), get out the train in Charlottenburg and just go to =
willmersdorf.
You can see it by a lot of shops.=20

Best,
Hosnieh

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> My belt has suffered a catastrophic failure (separation of buckle and
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> Does anyone know somewhere nearby which would sell decent-quality =
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There is also a big Karstadt department store close to the meeting, on Kurf=
ursterdamm, but I assume the price level is similar to KaDeWe.

Regards,

Christer

-----Alkuper=E4inen viesti-----
L=E4hett=E4j=E4: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@i=
etf.org] Puolesta Markus Stenberg
L=E4hetetty: 30. hein=E4kuuta 2013 10:23
Vastaanottaja: Jonathan Lennox
Kopio: 87attendees@ietf.org; Markus Stenberg
Aihe: Re: [87attendees] Menswear store?

On 30.7.2013, at 9.18, Jonathan Lennox  wrote:
> My belt has suffered a catastrophic failure (separation of buckle and str=
ap).  Does anyone know somewhere nearby which would sell decent-quality men=
's belts?

KaDeWe has quality (judging by brands at any rate) men's clothing, although=
 it's _not_ the cheapest option around.=20

http://www.kadewe.de/en

dunno how badly this directions link breaks..

https://maps.google.com/maps?f=3Dd&source=3Ds_d&saddr=3DInterContinental+Be=
rlin,+Budapester+Stra=DFe,+Berlin,+Germany&daddr=3DKaDeWe,+Tauentzienstra=
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,0.021372&z=3D16&layer=3Dc&ei=3DX2n3UdCSN4qiiQLxxYHQAw&pw=3D2

Anyway, <10min by walking from IC. (There's ton of other purely clothing-or=
iented stores on that same road KaDeWe is on, too, if you feel like shoppin=
g. The usual international brands..)

Cheers,

-Markus
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On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:52 AM, Simon Perreault  =
wrote:
> I just remember the mountains of croissants in the congress centre... mmm=
mmm! :)

Unfortunately Hilton had mass-produced commercial croissants that were truc=
ked in from Buffalo. Or so I theorize=97they were terrible!   This was part=
 of what led me to be so indignant: how can you _possibly_ serve bad croiss=
ants at a $30 breakfast at a four star hotel in Quebec City?

:)


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At 9:21 PM +0200 7/29/13, Scott Brim wrote:

>   > Ooh, IETF gossip?  Do tell!
>
>  Oh good, I get to hear this again.

I was kidding -- I'm not actually asking for any gossip to be repeated.

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At 3:22 PM -0700 7/29/13, Derek Atkins wrote:

>   > Also, look for anyone eating a lot of cookies and speaking really,
>>  really fast.  Those seem to be associated with being a security
>>  person.
>
>  Not all of speak at > 0.5 EKRs!

I wasn't suggesting that *all* security people have these 
characteristics, only that these characteristics do seem associated 
with security people :-)

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Isn't it strange that the same people that laugh at gypsy fortune
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At 9:02 AM +0200 7/30/13, Max Jonas Werner wrote:

>  Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=3Dpgp-sha1;
>  	protocol=3D"application/pgp-signature";
>  	boundary=3D"SmWgD4tVsGicx1OvUuV1Jf1Aw7PWx3CJX"
>
>  On 30.07.2013 08:35, Richard Barnes wrote:
>>  Does anyone know of a pharmacy nearby?  I've run out of toothpaste in
>>  the tiny tube I could get through US airport security.
>
>  There's a drugstore called Rossmann at Ansbacher Stra=A7e, about 5-10 min
>  by foot: https://goo.gl/maps/bE7u5

Not sure if this is the same location, but I went=20
to a Rossmann drug store because LHR security=20
lived up to their much-deserved reputation and=20
confiscated my toothpaste (the tube was obviously=20
no larger than other tubes in my "Freedom Baggie"=20
and was 3/4 squeezed out anyway, but the printed=20
size was not clearly legible so of course it was=20
confiscated).  By the way, the location I went to=20
had two Rossmanns next to each other, one was a=20
general grocery store on two-levels, the other=20
was a drugstore-type place with personal care=20
products (oral care, hair care, skin care, etc.)=20
but the grocery store also had some of these=20
products, only a much smaller selection.  So it=20
wouldn't be difficult to accidently go in the=20
wrong one and think there is not much to choose=20
from.

(On other occasions LHR security has confiscated=20
contact lens solution and mouth rinse.  One time=20
they seized the saline solution because the=20
bottle was too small to be claimed under the OTC=20
exemption from the one-baggie rule, or so they=20
said.  I can honestly say that LHR security is=20
the absolute worst of any airport I've every been=20
through in the world. )

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The United States does not have a security system; it has a system
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At 6:34 PM -0400 7/29/13, Tony Hansen wrote:

>  One of these days we'll hopefully make the color tagging portable
>  between the two systems and transportable to other devices; currently
>  the color tagging is specific to a specific browser and is not shared
>  between the two sites.

Yes, it would be handy if the agenda tags were in the URL so they 
could be shared across browsers and devices (assuming one remembered 
to bookmark the resulting URL).

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On 07/29/2013 11:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> 
> On 07/29/2013 06:48 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
>> On 07/29/2013 05:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>
>> Fedora people hit by this bug, please try out the kernel at:
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>> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5583914


Those rpms got deleted already, please see:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5659623



> Grumble.  I need F17.  I plan on skipping 18 and go to 19...

the kernel rpm will probably work on both? :)

Paul


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> A second choice would be the Kaiser's at Wittenbergplatz.
> Wittenbergplatz is the square next to KaDeWe.

Excellent.  Thanks!  That looks much closer than Ullrich, which is large 
and well-stocked, but quite a hike (especially when it's hot...)

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Forwarding to 87 attendees...

Simon

Inizio messaggio inoltrato:

> Da: Simon Pietro Romano 
> Oggetto: Meetecho MacBook in room Charlottenburg II/III
> Data: 30 luglio 2013 08:40:44 GMT+02:00
> A: "ietf@ietf.org list" 
> Cc: team@meetecho.com
>=20
> Dear all,
>=20
> this morning we did not find one of our streaming laptops, which had =
been left (properly locked with a cable lock) in room Charlottenburg =
II/III. As you can imagine, besides being a real scandal, this is going =
to be a serious issue for us, since we are currently covering up to 4 =
sessions in parallel at this IETF and we're running out of HW resources. =
Should you have any useful information for us related to this event, =
please send us an e-mail to the following address: team@meetecho.com.
>=20
> Thanks a lot in advance,
>=20
> Simon
>=20
>=20
>                      					       _\\|//_
>                            				      ( O-O )
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o00~~(_)~~00o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>                     				Simon Pietro Romano
>              				 Universita' di Napoli Federico =
II
>                 		     Computer Engineering Department=20
> 	             Phone: +39 081 7683823 -- Fax: +39 081 7683816
>                                            e-mail: spromano@unina.it
>=20
> 		    < 		    idioti. Ci rifletto un istante; e mi scoraggio>>. =
Magritte.
>                			                     oooO
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                     					       _\\|//_
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   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o00~~(_)~~00o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                    				Simon Pietro Romano
             				 Universita' di Napoli Federico =
II
                		     Computer Engineering Department=20
	             Phone: +39 081 7683823 -- Fax: +39 081 7683816
                                           e-mail: spromano@unina.it

		    <>. =
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Da: Simon Pietro Romano <spromano@unina.it>
Oggetto: =
Meetecho MacBook in room Charlottenburg =
II/III
Data: 30 luglio 2013 08:40:44 =
GMT+02:00
Dear =
all,

this morning we did not find one of our =
streaming laptops, which had been left (properly locked with a =
cable lock) in room Charlottenburg II/III. As you can imagine, =
besides being a real scandal, this is going to be a serious issue for =
us, since we are currently covering up to 4 sessions in parallel at this =
IETF and we're running out of HW resources. Should you have any useful =
information for us related to this event, please send us an e-mail to =
the following address: team@meetecho.com.

Thanks a lot in =
advance,

Simon




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          =
                 				=
      ( O-O )
  =
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o00~~(_)~~00o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                  =
  				=
Simon Pietro Romano
          =
    Universita' di Napoli =
Federico II
              =
  	=
	     Computer Engineering =
Department 
	         =
    Phone: +39 081 7683823 -- Fax: +39 081 =
7683816
              =
                    =
         e-mail: spromano@unina.it

		=
    <<Molti mi dicono che lo scoraggiamento =CB =
l'alibi degli 
		   =
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Magritte.
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          =
                 				=
      ( O-O )
  =
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~o00~~(_)~~00o~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                  =
  				=
Simon Pietro Romano
          =
    Universita' di Napoli =
Federico II
              =
  	=
	     Computer Engineering =
Department 
	         =
    Phone: +39 081 7683823 -- Fax: +39 081 =
7683816
              =
                    =
         e-mail: spromano@unina.it

		=
    <<Molti mi dicono che lo scoraggiamento =CB =
l'alibi degli 
		   =
 idioti. Ci rifletto un istante; e mi scoraggio>>. =
Magritte.
             =
  			=
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At 9:11 AM +0200 7/30/13, Ray Pelletier wrote:

>   > There's a drugstore called Rossmann at Ansbacher Stra=DFe, about 5-10 =
min
>>  by foot: https://goo.gl/maps/bE7u5
>
>  Been there.  They don't have the small toothpaste tubes.
>  But they did have all the meds I needed.

The one I went to is below; they had a general=20
grocery store with a very small selection of=20
toothpaste, and a separate personal care store=20
attached that had a very full selection of sizes,=20
brands, and types.

Rossmann GmbH
Leipziger Stra=DFe 44
10117 Berlin, Germany
+49 30 20214721

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At 9:22 PM +0000 7/29/13, Ted Lemon wrote:

>  Yup.  Breakfast at the Hilton in Quebec City was so bad I demanded 
> a refund, which is something I pretty much never do.   But if 
> you're going to charge that much for breakfast, it ought to be 
> edible.

I was happy with the breakfast there, but then, all I want from a 
hotel breakfast is salmon (lox, smoked, sushi, I don't care), dark 
bread, fresh fruit, and hot water for tea (not served in a pot that 
also is used for coffee).  They didn't have dark bread, but the rest 
was fine.  I assume you tried their eggs or meat?

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Same experience from my point of view, on the 3rd floor.

...Paul

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>Hello folks,
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>Up until now, here on the 7th floor, I have not had problems using the
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>>> On 07/29/13 21:55, Samuel Weiler allegedly wrote:
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>>> Me too.  Just try it -- they gave me a code but tonight I didn't need
>>> it.  Maybe Sam signed us in for the whole floor.
>>>
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no idea how and where it came from. possibly from 6man meeting on Monday.

please contact me directly if you feel ownership of it.

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Le 29/07/2013 23:08, Keith Moore a écrit :
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Melinda Shore
>  wrote:
>
>> Right, and the truth is that I often go to the restaurant for a
>> proper (i.e. huge) breakfast, anyway, and I always see a large
>> number of other IETFers in the restaurant, as well.
>
> I do the same.  I would far rather my meeting fees be reduced by the
>  cost of the breakfasts because I have to eat elsewhere anyway.

I second this, with the following notes.

It would be good to learn in advance whether IETF Breakfast is there or
not, especially the 1st.  This helps planning - get the first breakfast
in advance while waiting for the flight.

Also, if breakfast is not offered to non-hotel attendees, then it would
make sense to reduce the fee for them.

And yes, every attendee is different and a common procedure could only
only accommodate that average.

Alex


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I just want to remind people, particularly WG chairs, that the microphones
are alive before sessions, and after them.  So, if you have conversations
at the front table before and after, please do not assume they are private.

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On 7/30/13 12:08 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> I just want to remind people, particularly WG chairs, that the microphones
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> at the front table before and after, please do not assume they are private.

!! Don't *tell* people - you never know what you'll overhear on the
pre-meeting audio.  Hate to see that undermined.

Melinda

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On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Alexandru Petrescu =
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> It would be good to learn in advance whether IETF Breakfast is there =
or
> not

http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/hotel.html:

"NOTE: Continental Breakfast WILL NOT be served at the IETF meeting"

I'm not sure how much clearer it could be. It's even in boldface. I =
guess maybe .

--John=



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Le 30/07/2013 10:13, John G. Scudder a écrit :
> On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Alexandru Petrescu
>  wrote:
>
>> It would be good to learn in advance whether IETF Breakfast is
>> there or not
>
> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/hotel.html:
>
> "NOTE: Continental Breakfast WILL NOT be served at the IETF meeting"
>
> I'm not sure how much clearer it could be. It's even in boldface. I
> guess maybe .

Hmm... thanks for pointing that.  I missed it.

When registering I did this: went to ietf.org, saw the right
column, clicked on the "Venue", and landed at InterContinental
site; that doesnt say breakfast.

Then I looked more for such page that you point above, but couldnt find.
  I concluded there is no such page.

It may be my manner of browsing.

(not to mention that while registering I wasnt automatically subscribed
to this attendees list, not sure whether I've forgot to check
some box or not.)

Alex

>
> --John
>
>
>



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On 30 Jul 2013, at 09:13, "John G. Scudder"  wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Alexandru Petrescu =
 wrote:
>=20
>> It would be good to learn in advance whether IETF Breakfast is there =
or
>> not
>=20
> http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/hotel.html:
>=20
> "NOTE: Continental Breakfast WILL NOT be served at the IETF meeting"
>=20
> I'm not sure how much clearer it could be. It's even in boldface. I =
guess maybe .

The thing is, that a common shared IETF breakfast has been the norm.

The loss of a shared "community" breakfast redues opportunities to meet =
people, and have breakfast discussions where people are in different =
hotels and would have to pay for a breakfast in the meeting hotel.

Tim=

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To: Alexandru Petrescu , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>
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You seem to be displaying a total lack of understanding of:

1)	the way the IETF is funded.
2)	the way contract negotiations with conference hotels work.

On 1) seek out any member of ISOC, or download the presentations they have =
made to this and many other IETF meetings. There was a Sunday session at th=
is meeting.=20

Your meeting fee is not paying for the conference alone. It pays for runnin=
g the conference and for general running of the IETF. In general, save mone=
y on one and the saving will shift to the other. They are already taking a =
hit of something up to 20% on this one because apparently VAT is a strange =
term to them. I'm sure they'll work out a way of giving you a "breakfast re=
fund" in place of a voluntary donation of 20% of meeting fee.

On 2) what is provided by the hotel is negotiated as a package - it is prac=
tically impossible to take an item out and give it a value. Formally noone =
in the IETF meeting hotel is getting breakfast out of their conference fee =
- it is in the room charge rate they are paying. So at this meeting IETF is=
 not paying for breakfasts, and therefore the conference fee is not. This i=
s complicated by the fact that the room rate at the conference hotel will b=
e quoted by the hotel in the knowledge they are hosting a conference with a=
 semi-captive audience but there is nothing you can take value from here.

And at the end of the day, as I have said before, if you don't like the hot=
el packages negotiated by the IETF, you don't have to take them - one of th=
e input constraints to choosing a venue is that there is a range of hotels =
available nearby (and the meaning of that depends on local transport option=
s).

Regards

Keith Drage

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
> On Behalf Of Alexandru Petrescu
> Sent: 30 July 2013 09:09
> To: 87attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast?
>=20
> Le 29/07/2013 23:08, Keith Moore a =E9crit :
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Melinda Shore
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Right, and the truth is that I often go to the restaurant for a
> >> proper (i.e. huge) breakfast, anyway, and I always see a large
> >> number of other IETFers in the restaurant, as well.
> >
> > I do the same.  I would far rather my meeting fees be reduced by the
> >  cost of the breakfasts because I have to eat elsewhere anyway.
>=20
> I second this, with the following notes.
>=20
> It would be good to learn in advance whether IETF Breakfast is there or
> not, especially the 1st.  This helps planning - get the first breakfast
> in advance while waiting for the flight.
>=20
> Also, if breakfast is not offered to non-hotel attendees, then it would
> make sense to reduce the fee for them.
>=20
> And yes, every attendee is different and a common procedure could only
> only accommodate that average.
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> Alex
>=20
>=20
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What room is today's ISOC briefing meeting in?

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|The loss of a shared "community" breakfast redues opportunities to meet
|people, and have breakfast discussions where people are in different
|hotels and would have to pay for a breakfast in the meeting hotel.

Hear, hear.

Best regards,

Kostas

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Le 30/07/2013 10:35, Konstantinos Pentikousis a écrit :
> |The loss of a shared "community" breakfast redues opportunities to meet
> |people, and have breakfast discussions where people are in different
> |hotels and would have to pay for a breakfast in the meeting hotel.
>
> Hear, hear.

Echo that.

Alex

>
> Best regards,
>
> Kostas
>


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On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Tim Chown  wrote:

> The thing is, that a common shared IETF breakfast has been the norm.

It really hasn't. It's been the norm for North America. Every single =
non-North American IETF back to IETF-68 (after which I stopped looking, =
feel free to continue on your own) has some statement on the hotel/venue =
page to the effect of "Above prices include high speed internet, buffet =
breakfast...". Some have the even more explicit "there's no separate =
IETF breakfast" warning in addition, some don't.

Since I'm wasting the bandwidth anyway, I'll +1 the sentiment that for =
my purposes, the hotel breakfast is vastly preferable to the North =
American stand-up variety. Obviously, YMMV.

--John=



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>What room is today's ISOC briefing meeting in?
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On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Tim Chown  wrote:

> The thing is, that a common shared IETF breakfast has been the norm.
>=20
> The loss of a shared "community" breakfast redues opportunities to =
meet people, and have breakfast discussions where people are in =
different hotels and would have to pay for a breakfast in the meeting =
hotel.

It hasn't been the norm for non-NA venues for a while. I'm surprised at =
the amount of surprise this time.


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One quick comment on Keith's post:

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:32 AM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) <
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> You seem to be displaying a total lack of understanding of:
>
> 1)      the way the IETF is funded.
> 2)      the way contract negotiations with conference hotels work.
>
> On 1) seek out any member of ISOC, or download the presentations they have
> made to this and many other IETF meetings. There was a Sunday session at
> this meeting.
>
>
I believe that Keith means IAOC and not ISOC.
See: http://iaoc.ietf.org/members.html
(Note: New IAOC website is really nice!)

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One quick comment on Keith's post:

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:32 AM, =
DRAGE, Keith (Keith) <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com><=
/span> wrote:


You seem to be displaying a total lack of understanding of=
:




1) =A0 =A0 =A0the way the IETF is funded.

2) =A0 =A0 =A0the way contract negotiations with conference hotels work.


On 1) seek out any member of ISOC, or download the presentations they have =
made to this and many other IETF meetings. There was a Sunday session at th=
is meeting.



I believe that Keith means IAOC and not ISOC. 
See:=A0http://iaoc.ietf.org/members.html
(Note: New IAOC website is really nice!)=A0


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I did mean IAOC and thanks for providing the link, which I should have done=
 as well.

Keith

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One quick comment on Keith's post:

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:32 AM, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) > wrote:
You seem to be displaying a total lack of understanding of:

1)      the way the IETF is funded.
2)      the way contract negotiations with conference hotels work.

On 1) seek out any member of ISOC, or download the presentations they have =
made to this and many other IETF meetings. There was a Sunday session at th=
is meeting.


I believe that Keith means IAOC and not ISOC.
See: http://iaoc.ietf.org/members.html
(Note: New IAOC website is really nice!)

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On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Dave Crocker  wrote:

> What room is today's ISOC briefing meeting


Bellevue

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On 30 Jul 2013, at 09:40, "John G. Scudder"  wrote:

> On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Tim Chown  wrote:
>=20
>> The thing is, that a common shared IETF breakfast has been the norm.
>=20
> It really hasn't. It's been the norm for North America. Every single =
non-North American IETF back to IETF-68 (after which I stopped looking, =
feel free to continue on your own) has some statement on the hotel/venue =
page to the effect of "Above prices include high speed internet, buffet =
breakfast...". Some have the even more explicit "there's no separate =
IETF breakfast" warning in addition, some don't.

I don't remember specific meeting arrangements, or whether for some =
there was a hotel breakfast and an IETF-provided one. I do feel that =
over the years we seem to have moved way from a common shared breakfast. =
I hadn't noticed that it was a North American thing - thats an =
interesting observation. But I think it's a shame as a shared breakfast =
for everyone in the main hotel is an opportunity to meet people.

> Since I'm wasting the bandwidth anyway, I'll +1 the sentiment that for =
my purposes, the hotel breakfast is vastly preferable to the North =
American stand-up variety. Obviously, YMMV.

True - there should be more variety in a hotel breakfast than a =
buffet-style community one. As for stand-up/sit-down, here in Berlin for =
example there are break-out areas where you can sit to eat if you prefer =
that.  As there was in Orlando at the last meeting.

It's not clear what the intent of the origanisers is. And I appreciate =
it's a difficult task. Perhaps the post-meeting survey can solicit =
attendee preferences, so the organisers would at least know what the =
general preference is, whether they are able to support that or not.

Tim=

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> Up until now, here on the 7th floor, I have not had problems
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I think this is location-dependent=97the wireless is almost useless in my r=
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Hey Jonathan

  There is a shop near Suksan Thai restaurant signal , that seems to have
belts .. but it is not a menswear shop in particular.

This is 5 mins walk from here .. you may want to check out ..

Cheers
Suhas


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Jonathan Lennox  wrote:

> My belt has suffered a catastrophic failure (separation of buckle and
> strap).  Does anyone know somewhere nearby which would sell decent-quality
> men's belts?
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Hey Jonathan

=A0 There is a shop near S=
uksan Thai restaurant signal , that seems to have belts .. but it is not a =
menswear shop in particular.

This is 5 mins walk f=
rom here .. you may want to check out ..



Cheers
Suhas=A0


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, Jonathan Lennox <jonathan@vidyo.com> wrote:


My belt has suffered a catastrophic failure =
(separation of buckle and strap). =A0Does anyone know somewhere nearby whic=
h would sell decent-quality men's belts?




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Subject: Re: [87attendees] Is anyone experiencing network issues
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>On Jul 30, 2013, at 8:47 AM, "Charles E. Perkins" 
>wrote:
>> Up until now, here on the 7th floor, I have not had problems
>> using the wireless.  I haven't tried the Ethernet.
>
>I think this is location-dependent=8Bthe wireless is almost useless in my
>room.  I have to sit in the bathroom to get a dependable signal.
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Hi Randall,

John also mentioned there is one on Keithstr. 39, which is only a couple of=
 blocks from the hotel.  I've been trying them out, they can either let you=
 use their machines or have you drop the laundry off and do it for you.

For self service, you pay 4.50 for a 4 kilo "small" load (still gets a reas=
onable number of clothes clean), and 6.90 for a 7 kilo large load.  They ta=
ke your money and put coins into the machine, as the machines apparently st=
ill use Deutschmarks.  They also provide laundry detergent at no charge.

Machines take about an hour to work, then you put the laundry into a spinne=
r to spin out more water, then into the dryer, which is 1 DM per 9 minutes =
(you pay them 2 Euro, they give you 4 DM).

Drop off service is more expensive, more like 17 Euro for 4 kilos.

Cheers,

Lyndon

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I now have the paper from the concierge at my hotel, which clarifies that i=
t is
	Picobello
	Knesebeckstrasze 86-87

Their price list is at
http://www.picobello-berlin.de/preisliste_charlottenburg.htm and shows 5.50=
 euros per kilo.


At 12:17 PM -0700 7/28/13, Randall Gellens wrote:

>  Hi Lyndon,
>
>  I'm told it is Picobello
>  http://www.picobello-berlin.de/filialen.htm
>
>  At 4:01 AM -0400 7/28/13, Lyndon Ong wrote:
>
>>    Hi Randall,
>>
>>    Please let us know if there is such a place, I called earlier=20
>> today but no one seemed to know of it.
>>
>>    Thanks,
>>
>>    Lyndon
>>
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20
>> [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randall Gellens
>>    Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:26 AM
>>    To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org
>>    Subject: Re: [87attendees] Any self-service laundromat nearby?
>>
>>    At 12:32 AM +0200 7/27/13, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>
>>>     (This question seems to get asked at almost every IETF; it should
>>>    probably be put in the Wiki for each meeting.)
>>>
>>>     Is there any self-service laundromat anywhere near the IETF
>>>    hotel(s) (where 'nearby' includes 'nearby with public transit')?
>>
>>    I'd called my hotel last week to ask about bag-wash
>> (fluf-n-fold) places, that do laundry and charge by the=20
>> kilo/pound/bag.  The staff told me there is one super-close that=20
>> charges around 4.5 euro per kilo for 2-day service, an extra euro or=20
>> two for next-day service.
>>    They said it is so close the staff would be happy to take my stuff=20
>> there for me.
>>
>>    They promised to give me the info on a paper when I checked in but=20
>> I don't see it.  I'll call when they're not so busy to get it.
>>
>>
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I would have replied sooner, but my hands were covered with cookie 
crumbs and I
didn't want a messy keyboard ...

On 7/30/13 3:15 AM, Randall Gellens wrote:
> At 3:22 PM -0700 7/29/13, Derek Atkins wrote:
>
>> > Also, look for anyone eating a lot of cookies and speaking really,
>>> really fast. Those seem to be associated with being a security
>>> person.
>>
>> Not all of speak at > 0.5 EKRs!
>
> I wasn't suggesting that *all* security people have these 
> characteristics, only that these characteristics do seem associated 
> with security people :-)
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On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Tim Chown  wrote:

> I don't remember specific meeting arrangements

I wasn't sure I remembered correctly either, which is why I went and =
checked the past meeting pages. Having done so, I didn't have to rely on =
feelings or impressions. Here you go:

http://www.ietf.org/meeting/past.html

--John=



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I just dropped off my clothes at this place and when I nodded to the lady a=
pparently asking me if I wanted "self" or have her do it, and with my no kn=
owledge of German I acquiesced (pointed) to her to do my laundry....The cha=
rge due upon pickup (tomorrow at noon) is 17.60 Euros (for no more than 1 k=
ilo, but as Lyndon noted you may have load heavier than 1 kilo).

Thanks
Sanjay

-----Original Message-----
From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On=
 Behalf Of Ong, Lyndon
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:06 AM
To: Randall Gellens; 87attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Any self-service laundromat nearby?

Hi Randall,

John also mentioned there is one on Keithstr. 39, which is only a couple of=
 blocks from the hotel.  I've been trying them out, they can either let you=
 use their machines or have you drop the laundry off and do it for you.

For self service, you pay 4.50 for a 4 kilo "small" load (still gets a reas=
onable number of clothes clean), and 6.90 for a 7 kilo large load.  They ta=
ke your money and put coins into the machine, as the machines apparently st=
ill use Deutschmarks.  They also provide laundry detergent at no charge.

Machines take about an hour to work, then you put the laundry into a spinne=
r to spin out more water, then into the dryer, which is 1 DM per 9 minutes =
(you pay them 2 Euro, they give you 4 DM).

Drop off service is more expensive, more like 17 Euro for 4 kilos.

Cheers,

Lyndon

-----Original Message-----
From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On=
 Behalf Of Randall Gellens
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:34 AM
To: 87attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Any self-service laundromat nearby?

I now have the paper from the concierge at my hotel, which clarifies that i=
t is
	Picobello
	Knesebeckstrasze 86-87

Their price list is at
http://www.picobello-berlin.de/preisliste_charlottenburg.htm and shows 5.50=
 euros per kilo.


At 12:17 PM -0700 7/28/13, Randall Gellens wrote:

>  Hi Lyndon,
>
>  I'm told it is Picobello
>  http://www.picobello-berlin.de/filialen.htm
>
>  At 4:01 AM -0400 7/28/13, Lyndon Ong wrote:
>
>>    Hi Randall,
>>
>>    Please let us know if there is such a place, I called earlier=20
>> today but no one seemed to know of it.
>>
>>    Thanks,
>>
>>    Lyndon
>>
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>    From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20
>> [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randall Gellens
>>    Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:26 AM
>>    To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org
>>    Subject: Re: [87attendees] Any self-service laundromat nearby?
>>
>>    At 12:32 AM +0200 7/27/13, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>
>>>     (This question seems to get asked at almost every IETF; it should
>>>    probably be put in the Wiki for each meeting.)
>>>
>>>     Is there any self-service laundromat anywhere near the IETF
>>>    hotel(s) (where 'nearby' includes 'nearby with public transit')?
>>
>>    I'd called my hotel last week to ask about bag-wash
>> (fluf-n-fold) places, that do laundry and charge by the=20
>> kilo/pound/bag.  The staff told me there is one super-close that=20
>> charges around 4.5 euro per kilo for 2-day service, an extra euro or=20
>> two for next-day service.
>>    They said it is so close the staff would be happy to take my stuff=20
>> there for me.
>>
>>    They promised to give me the info on a paper when I checked in but=20
>> I don't see it.  I'll call when they're not so busy to get it.
>>
>>
>>    --
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Hello Stephen,

Thank you for your security post.I'm not in Berlin but very interested for
this one.
I hope to hear you soon.

FOROGO




2013/7/30 Stephen Kent 

> I would have replied sooner, but my hands were covered with cookie crumbs
> and I
> didn't want a messy keyboard ...
>
>
> On 7/30/13 3:15 AM, Randall Gellens wrote:
>
>> At 3:22 PM -0700 7/29/13, Derek Atkins wrote:
>>
>>  > Also, look for anyone eating a lot of cookies and speaking really,
>>>
>>>> really fast. Those seem to be associated with being a security
>>>> person.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not all of speak at > 0.5 EKRs!
>>>
>>
>> I wasn't suggesting that *all* security people have these
>> characteristics, only that these characteristics do seem associated with
>> security people :-)
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Hello Stephen,

Thank you for your secur=
ity post.I'm not in Berlin but very interested for this one.
=
I hope to hear you soon.

FOROGO






I did mean IAOC and thanks for providi=
ng the link, which I should have done as well.


 


Keith


 












From: Matthew
 Lepinski [mailto:mlepinski.ietf@gmail.com] 

Sent: 30 July 2013 09:45

To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith)

Cc: Alexandru Petrescu; 87at=
tendees@ietf.org

Subject: Re: [87attendees] I=
ETF Breakfast?




 




One quick comment on Keith's post:




 




On Tue,
Jul=
 30, 2013 at
4:32 AM, DRAGE, K=
eith (Keith) <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:=



You seem to be displaying a total lack of understanding of:



1)      the way the IETF is funded.

2)      the way contract negotiations with conference hotels=
 work.



On 1) seek out any member of ISOC, or download the presentations they have =
made to this and many other IETF meetings. There was a Sunday session at th=
is meeting.




 






 






I believe that Keith means IAOC and not ISOC.


See: http://iaoc.ietf.or=
g/members.html






(Note: New IAOC website is really nice!) 














2013/7/30 Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com>


I would have replied sooner, but my hands were covered with cookie crumbs a=
nd I

didn't want a messy keyboard ...




On 7/30/13 3:15 AM, Randall Gellens wrote:



At 3:22 PM -0700 7/29/13, Derek Atkins wrote:





> Also, look for anyone eating a lot of cookies and speaking really,



really fast. Those seem to be associated with being a security

person.





Not all of speak at > 0.5 EKRs!





I wasn't suggesting that *all* security people have these characteristi=
cs, only that these characteristics do seem associated with security people=
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At 5:18 AM -0400 7/30/13, Sanjay Mishra wrote:

>  I just dropped off my clothes at this place and when I nodded to 
> the lady apparently asking me if I wanted "self" or have her do it, 
> and with my no knowledge of German I acquiesced (pointed) to her to 
> do my laundry....The charge due upon pickup (tomorrow at noon) is 
> 17.60 Euros (for no more than 1 kilo, but as Lyndon noted you may 
> have load heavier than 1 kilo).

17.60 euros is expensive for only 1 kilo!

I took advantage of the Concierge's offer to drop off my clothes for 
me and pick them up.  They told me that the price is 7.50 euros per 
kilo, although the price list on the web site of the place (as I 
posted yesterday) shows 5.50 euros, but I'm fine with 7.50.

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What I was told at Keithstrasse was 17.60 for up to 4 kilos (small load), s=
o it works out better if you have a fair amount of laundry to do. =20

Drop off and pickup by the Concierge is a nice convenience though.

Lyndon

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At 5:18 AM -0400 7/30/13, Sanjay Mishra wrote:

>  I just dropped off my clothes at this place and when I nodded to the=20
> lady apparently asking me if I wanted "self" or have her do it, and=20
> with my no knowledge of German I acquiesced (pointed) to her to do my=20
> laundry....The charge due upon pickup (tomorrow at noon) is
> 17.60 Euros (for no more than 1 kilo, but as Lyndon noted you may have=20
> load heavier than 1 kilo).

17.60 euros is expensive for only 1 kilo!

I took advantage of the Concierge's offer to drop off my clothes for me and=
 pick them up.  They told me that the price is 7.50 euros per kilo, althoug=
h the price list on the web site of the place (as I posted yesterday) shows=
 5.50 euros, but I'm fine with 7.50.

--
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On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Tim Chown  wrote:

>=20
> The thing is, that a common shared IETF breakfast has been the norm.
>=20
> The loss of a shared "community" breakfast redues opportunities to meet pe=
ople, and have breakfast discussions where people are in different hotels=20=


I agree.  And yet, I have learned that I must avoid the IETF breakfasts at U=
S meetings because the last thing I need in the morning is a carbohydrate he=
avy meal.  So unless IETF can provide a real and substantial breakfast, with=
 a variety of foods, for all attendees (regardless of hotel) at a reasonable=
 price, I would rather not pay for others to have breakfast that I cannot ea=
t.=

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On Jul 30, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Keith Moore  wrot=
e:
> I agree.  And yet, I have learned that I must avoid the IETF breakfasts a=
t US meetings because the last thing I need in the morning is a carbohydrat=
e heavy meal.  So unless IETF can provide a real and substantial breakfast,=
 with a variety of foods, for all attendees (regardless of hotel) at a reas=
onable price, I would rather not pay for others to have breakfast that I ca=
nnot eat.

This is exactly right.   Call me a control freak, but given my current diet=
, if I do not have control over what I get to eat for breakfast, it's going=
 to do far more harm than the good done by talking to fellow IETFers over c=
ookies.



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Folks,

Here's the agenda for today's ipv6hackers meeting at EANTC AG
headquarters in Berlin:

* Some Notes on Testing the Real-World IPv6 Capabilities of Commercial
Security Products -- Christopher Werny & Enno Rey
* FT6 (Firewalltester for IPv6) -- Oliver Eggert
* IPv6 Deployment Monitoring: Internet metrics -- Eric Vyncke
* IPv6 Security Assessment and Benchmarking -- Eldad Zack
* Measurement of IPv6 filtering policies on the Internet -- Guillaume
Mulocher
* News about THC-IPv6 -- Marc Heuse
* News about IPv6-toolkit -- Fernando Gont
* IPv6 addresses on the Domain Name System (DNS) -- Fernando Gont
* DNS Reconnaissance using DNSSEC -- Christoph Mueller


The event is free, and you don't need to register to attend (number of
seats is limited, though).

Please find all the relevant details (location, maps, etc.) at:


I suggest that people meaning to walk to the venue meet at the
Intercontinental hotel's front door, and leave at around 15:15 to arrive
in time for the meeting (harder to get lost if walking with a group).

Thanks!
Best regards,
-- 
Fernando Gont
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On Jul 30, 2013, at 11:05 AM 7/30/13, "Ong, Lyndon"  =
wrote:

> Hi Randall,
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> John also mentioned there is one on Keithstr. 39, which is only a =
couple of blocks from the hotel.  I've been trying them out, they can =
either let you use their machines or have you drop the laundry off and =
do it for you.
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> For self service, you pay 4.50 for a 4 kilo "small" load (still gets a =
reasonable number of clothes clean), and 6.90 for a 7 kilo large load.  =
They take your money and put coins into the machine, as the machines =
apparently still use Deutschmarks.  They also provide laundry detergent =
at no charge.
>=20
> Machines take about an hour to work, then you put the laundry into a =
spinner to spin out more water, then into the dryer, which is 1 DM per 9 =
minutes (you pay them 2 Euro, they give you 4 DM).
>=20
> Drop off service is more expensive, more like 17 Euro for 4 kilos.

I'm trying out this laundry as well.  It really is close and I walked =
over before the rain started.  Dropped off 7 kilos for ~ 28 Euro.  I can =
report on the results tomorrow...

- Ralph

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> Cheers,
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> Lyndon
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:34 AM
> To: 87attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Any self-service laundromat nearby?
>=20
> I now have the paper from the concierge at my hotel, which clarifies =
that it is
> 	Picobello
> 	Knesebeckstrasze 86-87
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> Their price list is at
> http://www.picobello-berlin.de/preisliste_charlottenburg.htm and shows =
5.50 euros per kilo.
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>=20
> At 12:17 PM -0700 7/28/13, Randall Gellens wrote:
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>> Hi Lyndon,
>>=20
>> I'm told it is Picobello
>> http://www.picobello-berlin.de/filialen.htm
>>=20
>> At 4:01 AM -0400 7/28/13, Lyndon Ong wrote:
>>=20
>>>   Hi Randall,
>>>=20
>>>   Please let us know if there is such a place, I called earlier=20
>>> today but no one seemed to know of it.
>>>=20
>>>   Thanks,
>>>=20
>>>   Lyndon
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>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>   From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org=20
>>> [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randall Gellens
>>>   Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:26 AM
>>>   To: Ross Finlayson; 87attendees@ietf.org
>>>   Subject: Re: [87attendees] Any self-service laundromat nearby?
>>>=20
>>>   At 12:32 AM +0200 7/27/13, Ross Finlayson wrote:
>>>=20
>>>>    (This question seems to get asked at almost every IETF; it =
should
>>>>   probably be put in the Wiki for each meeting.)
>>>>=20
>>>>    Is there any self-service laundromat anywhere near the IETF
>>>>   hotel(s) (where 'nearby' includes 'nearby with public transit')?
>>>=20
>>>   I'd called my hotel last week to ask about bag-wash
>>> (fluf-n-fold) places, that do laundry and charge by the=20
>>> kilo/pound/bag.  The staff told me there is one super-close that=20
>>> charges around 4.5 euro per kilo for 2-day service, an extra euro or=20=

>>> two for next-day service.
>>>   They said it is so close the staff would be happy to take my stuff=20=

>>> there for me.
>>>=20
>>>   They promised to give me the info on a paper when I checked in but=20=

>>> I don't see it.  I'll call when they're not so busy to get it.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>   --
>>>   Randall Gellens
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>> Randall Gellens
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>> of Infernal Dynamics:
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>>        direction.
>>    2.  An object at rest will always be in the wrong place.
>>    3.  The energy required to change either one of these states
>>        will always be more than you wish to expend, but never so
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What is the social about/doing?

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Hello all,

A number of social tickets have been released and are now available for you=
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Information about the social event can be found here:
http://www.ietf87.de/social-event/

Thanks,
Marcia

On Jul 30, 2013, at 1:40 PM, SAYKO, ROBERT J wrote:

> What is the social about/doing?
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [87attendees] Social Tickets for Tonight
>=20
> Hello all,
>=20
> A number of social tickets have been released and are now available =
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>=20
> Cheers,
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http://www.ietf87.de/social-ev=
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Thanks,
Marcia

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What = is the social about/doing?

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Hello all,

A = number of social tickets have been released and are now available for = you to purchase at the IETF registration desk or online through the IETF = 87 meeting page.

Cheers,
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= --Apple-Mail-2--406750331-- From cja@daydream.com Tue Jul 30 04:54:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE6B21F8DA3 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 04:54:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.976 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.976 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4n9w4lm2c5d0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 04:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f52.google.com (mail-vb0-f52.google.com [209.85.212.52]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C029821E8063 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 04:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f12so1215599vbg.11 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 04:54:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=VFlqEP9xV/wgxrnfz6j1dzhhBf6aJC8cDj6Tj/lUsIY=; b=RjAGooznMZotMNeDvxwnpu+x8OqFu5ZYr6zr4kPpmxmE8WsOdiNdYhzHEzapM5mhwm pnZRHgA4u5mDsU0heXxtDsVoMEdpQ4SvlIVv6z6ekFiw9f+oZJL/Qk/6YBMg/oy/uwKc mUZp6QmlifqdrqfYVt//aRGPHgpJ3T/3YT0BFAZP+XhyacaJTRxjW/qTTGVCIm96QhD8 d5WdaUyEAYaOECKcBtN/90UJarrmq84s0AdJ/oOgcwYy0PX/HCnZbYSsR3GLHYFhlJlC YJCDZKXHE2igKltcv99r0emuANtuOVhjXkxRcVn2Yn4WLOfQjI8rNd3SBDSomhEEFe3a LozQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.231.97 with SMTP id tf1mr793024vdc.15.1375185261537; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 04:54:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.5.98 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 04:54:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2001:df8:0:16:ec55:b2db:dd5c:17f7] In-Reply-To: <0E366C17-49CC-4BCD-8DCA-0998E6CE1539@amsl.com> References: <20130730113115.10965.53899.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <9B30768B8155174FB7C6B21ABDCD24C026B31EEB@GAALPA1MSGUSR9C.ITServices.sbc.com> <0E366C17-49CC-4BCD-8DCA-0998E6CE1539@amsl.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:54:21 -0600 Message-ID: From: CJ Aronson To: Marcia Beaulieu Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0115ecb203bf9304e2b945c4 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkvRx39LKXlXMcCjP4eot3v956N6Qa6+XBI8BWTIpG303KcLJZbwMX952YiY5Xj2QB73p1J Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, "SAYKO, ROBERT J" , "87all@ietf.org" <87all@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Tickets for Tonight X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:54:35 -0000 --089e0115ecb203bf9304e2b945c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.ietf.org/meeting/87/social.html On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Marcia Beaulieu wrote: > Information about the social event can be found here: > http://www.ietf87.de/social-event/ > > Thanks, > Marcia > > On Jul 30, 2013, at 1:40 PM, SAYKO, ROBERT J wrote: > > What is the social about/doing? > > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of IETF Secretariat > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 7:31 AM > To: 87all@ietf.org > Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org > Subject: [87attendees] Social Tickets for Tonight > > Hello all, > > A number of social tickets have been released and are now available for > you to purchase at the IETF registration desk or online through the IETF 87 > meeting page. > > Cheers, > The IETF Secretariat > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > > > Marcia Beaulieu / Sr. Meeting Planner / IETF > Association Management Solutions, LLC > 48377 Fremont Blvd., Suite 117, Fremont, CA 94538 > Phone: +1 510 492 4083 > Email: mbeaulieu@amsl.com > > Managed by Association Management Solutions (AMS) > Forum Management, Meeting and Event Planning > www.amsl.com > > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > --089e0115ecb203bf9304e2b945c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013= at 5:48 AM, Marcia Beaulieu <mbeaulieu@amsl.com> wrote:
Informat= ion about the social event can be found here:

Thanks,
Marcia

On Jul 30, 2013, at 1:40 PM, SAYKO, ROBERT J wrote:
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What is the social about/doing?

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Subject: [87atten= dees] Social Tickets for Tonight

Hello all,

A number of social tickets have been released and are= now available for you to purchase at the IETF registration desk or online = through the IETF 87 meeting page.

Cheers,
The IETF Secretariat _______________________________________________
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--089e0115ecb203bf9304e2b945c4-- From zack@eantc.de Tue Jul 30 05:20:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC0F11E814F for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:20:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.649 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.649 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, J_CHICKENPOX_37=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 337Tlp7LTQkQ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.eantc.de (ns.eantc.de [80.149.128.2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9A111E81D2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eantc.de (mail [80.149.128.2]) by mail.eantc.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6UB0iuE028341; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:20:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [80.149.128.5] (helo=[80.149.128.5]) by localhost with ESMTP (eXpurgate 3.2.1) (envelope-from ) id 51f7af86-0354-50958005cb58-1 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:20:24 +0200 Message-ID: <51F7AF83.5010702@eantc.de> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:20:19 +0200 From: Eldad Zack User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <51F79A81.1000400@gont.com.ar> In-Reply-To: <51F79A81.1000400@gont.com.ar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Fernando Gont Subject: Re: [87attendees] bulk an zack@eantc.de ipv6hackers meeting (Today, July 30, 2013) X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:20:40 -0000 Hi everyone, To get to the meeting from the IETF venue with public transportation, you can take the 200 bus to the zoo (Zoologischer Garten), change to the 245 bus and get off the bus at Marchbrücke. Hope to see you there! Cheers, Eldad On 30/07/2013 12:50, Fernando Gont wrote: > Folks, > > Here's the agenda for today's ipv6hackers meeting at EANTC AG > headquarters in Berlin: > > * Some Notes on Testing the Real-World IPv6 Capabilities of Commercial > Security Products -- Christopher Werny & Enno Rey > * FT6 (Firewalltester for IPv6) -- Oliver Eggert > * IPv6 Deployment Monitoring: Internet metrics -- Eric Vyncke > * IPv6 Security Assessment and Benchmarking -- Eldad Zack > * Measurement of IPv6 filtering policies on the Internet -- Guillaume > Mulocher > * News about THC-IPv6 -- Marc Heuse > * News about IPv6-toolkit -- Fernando Gont > * IPv6 addresses on the Domain Name System (DNS) -- Fernando Gont > * DNS Reconnaissance using DNSSEC -- Christoph Mueller > > > The event is free, and you don't need to register to attend (number of > seats is limited, though). > > Please find all the relevant details (location, maps, etc.) at: > > > I suggest that people meaning to walk to the venue meet at the > Intercontinental hotel's front door, and leave at around 15:15 to arrive > in time for the meeting (harder to get lost if walking with a group). > > Thanks! > Best regards, -- Eldad Zack Testingenieur EANTC AG - European Advanced Networking Test Center Salzufer 14, 10587 Berlin, Germany phone +49.30.3180595-61, fax +49.30.3180595-10 zack@eantc.de http://www.eantc.de EANTC Aktiengesellschaft Place of Business / Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Germany Chairman / Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Herbert Almus Managing Director / Vorstand: Carsten Rossenhövel, Gabriele Schrenk Registered: HRB 73694, Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, Berlin, Germany EU VAT No: DE 812824025 From rcitterio@gmail.com Tue Jul 30 05:25:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D671921F9D3B for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_37=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vyqRxPMoCoMB for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com (mail-ob0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA70421F944C for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id f8so6401553obp.22 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:25:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=rRi+bgHkIWmd6bAGFJ5YlRu4mrc2Xi8lKs+NBbQspo0=; b=Mmx6ObV7WFWA2veP2uIjIxviEjtGKtsBPFwivXdlwH1ONysZJqrWnnSRk+81drdb5U s1L/ow5OxVw/wSfybX8t1x540oB4dIZpnpBFbLrm/q+3OjGjx/jegJDgu1KypZRH1CUm ACF+TW8mFUTHVNVEr8hUuvO2JYifWz0L+vQv0xoC2CY0xOpDJ8R+0jlyszEWArjMr9TS stcEsOuNpvlKliOAVvP1Si+HWWnzqW2zkpBe+BQUkSrUYiDc+cwa9X1UkcSg8NyJAfa4 nJQlMUiNP4kZ8gvoUlxFpwOp0piEVJz59n7VB36GG3mRsJSap9JUXdpMkjVy/oQyh9hb p75w== X-Received: by 10.43.65.144 with SMTP id xm16mr21735720icb.112.1375187117664; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:25:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.109.82 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:24:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F7AF83.5010702@eantc.de> References: <51F79A81.1000400@gont.com.ar> <51F7AF83.5010702@eantc.de> From: Raitme Citterio Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:24:47 +0200 Message-ID: To: Eldad Zack Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec51b1b6fa5f2ee04e2b9b35c Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Fernando Gont Subject: Re: [87attendees] bulk an zack@eantc.de ipv6hackers meeting (Today, July 30, 2013) X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:25:22 -0000 --bcaec51b1b6fa5f2ee04e2b9b35c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Eldad 2013/7/30 Eldad Zack > Hi everyone, > > To get to the meeting from the IETF venue with public transportation, > you can take the 200 bus to the zoo (Zoologischer Garten), change > to the 245 bus and get off the bus at Marchbr=FCcke. > Raitme Citterio --bcaec51b1b6fa5f2ee04e2b9b35c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Eldad


2013/7/30 Eldad Zack <zack@eantc.de>
H= i everyone,

To get to the meeting from the IETF venue with public transportation,
you can take the 200 bus to the zoo (Zoologischer Garten), change
to the 245 bus and get off the bus at Marchbr=FCcke.



Raitme Citterio
--bcaec51b1b6fa5f2ee04e2b9b35c-- From pthaler@broadcom.com Tue Jul 30 05:32:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535C421F8F29 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:32:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.499 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.499 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.100, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EEE5tVpkZTPp for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mms3.broadcom.com (mms3.broadcom.com [216.31.210.19]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91B811E81F0 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.9.208.53] by mms3.broadcom.com with ESMTP (Broadcom SMTP Relay (Email Firewall v6.5)); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:22:33 -0700 X-Server-Uuid: B86B6450-0931-4310-942E-F00ED04CA7AF Received: from SJEXCHCAS05.corp.ad.broadcom.com (10.16.203.12) by IRVEXCHCAS06.corp.ad.broadcom.com (10.9.208.53) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.438.0; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:32:21 -0700 Received: from SJEXCHMB09.corp.ad.broadcom.com ( [fe80::3da7:665e:cc78:181f]) by SJEXCHCAS05.corp.ad.broadcom.com ( [::1]) with mapi id 14.01.0438.000; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:32:21 -0700 From: "Pat Thaler" To: "Thomas Walsh" Thread-Topic: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? Thread-Index: AQHOi9j8QoAbUMV/fUCQ/1PGVRBtKpl7IyeAgAA2l7uAAHcVAIAAAImAgAABzwCAAF0DAIAACDAAgAAOnwCAAAJMgIAACr2AgADV86c= Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:32:20 +0000 Message-ID: <5742D1BB-2D60-42CD-86D3-8B84A2C0E75E@broadcom.com> References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> , <7A7C224C0F562F48A6441AFE2399D08D2F36A7DB@SN2PRD0510MB394.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <7A7C224C0F562F48A6441AFE2399D08D2F36A7DB@SN2PRD0510MB394.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-WSS-ID: 7DE96F832L863792261-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Ben Campbell , Stephen Hanna Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:32:31 -0000 +1 and real loose leaf tea brewed with hot water in a pot instead of colore= d water tasting slightly like tea with an undertone of stale cofffee. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2013, at 6:50 PM, "Thomas Walsh" wrote: > +1 from me and the Intercontinental hotel breakfast is excellent. One of= the best in recent memory. =20 >=20 > Tom >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] = On Behalf Of Stephen Hanna > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 6:08 PM > To: Ben Campbell; 87attendees@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? >=20 > +1 >=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-=20 >> bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ben Campbell >> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 12:00 PM >> To: 87attendees@ietf.org >> Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? >>=20 >> On Jul 29, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Alexandru Petrescu=20 >> wrote: >>=20 >>> I wonder whether someone gets an advantage of this new scheme. I=20 >>> personally dont. Is it that the hotel Breakfast is more comfortable=20 >>> than IETF hallways Breakfast? >>=20 >> I'm not sure what's new about this scheme. We did something similar in=20 >> Maastricht, Stockholm and Beijing if I recall correctly. (I'm sure=20 >> there are others.) >>=20 >> I much prefer the opportunity to have a hot breakfast sitting down at=20 >> a table. The usual North America approach of trying to grab a=20 >> carb-bomb before they all disappear, then trying eat it while standing=20 >> up and juggling a beverage is not my idea of fun. >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 From rg+ietf@qti.qualcomm.com Tue Jul 30 05:33:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75C711E81F0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:33:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OL58oLUJWwDj for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B55721E80C5 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:33:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1375187581; x=1406723581; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:to:from:subject; bh=6d8ERTXXkKYmzj/NIoOe0cIefByuIyZ1ShPGyWRhMAo=; b=srlEPbmlWJkCm2znjz+hN9mr8w0nBisMBECKPlHz562vQEUHr4GmVDWO B5swtMXa11EMhF9ZwvehlIKQhmc322je1JP2zMZXGgKa2TTbqC3bjwbIv rjm9ULnNmNEME23sR18VkEMrnDMBTC6WAEP8SO3KzcFhNscyh+tqSaqvs Y=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,778,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="65688467" Received: from ironmsg03-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.18]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2013 05:33:00 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,778,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="512797308" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.35.200.44]) ([10.64.194.242]) by Ironmsg03-L.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2013 05:32:59 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <51F77578.3060208@nomountain.net> References: <11114.1375171688@sandelman.ca> <51F77578.3060208@nomountain.net> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:32:27 -0700 To: Melinda Shore , <87attendees@ietf.org> From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Subject: Re: [87attendees] mics are open X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:33:09 -0000 At 12:12 AM -0800 7/30/13, Melinda Shore wrote: > !! Don't *tell* people - you never know what you'll overhear on the > pre-meeting audio. Hate to see that undermined. What have you heard? Anything juicy? -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. --Blaise Pascal, 17th-century French mathematician and religious philosopher From randy@qti.qualcomm.com Tue Jul 30 05:33:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92AE11E81F2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:33:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8hq+LzaN27BD for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C26521E80C0 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:32:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1375187578; x=1406723578; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:to:from:subject: mime-version; bh=w6LOEyZWREF/wjqiW3ON7+h3o11ksM7Ut8SXaZ+TZvA=; b=x+JAwY53EmcOrbhnJpEtLUvo58t/8JMjJsVg5a56hsS1g0KVIjeWAf2d mmngAMAZL/iJk20VWEn9dKUCk/ZmAyI5qFXi3eyMfWgJdZyaH2LEomEUj rAhp9tLw/sPn2JW4WuCgfkZd5amVycBnQzKvYcI//ttqfVzWLDegoG3pn Q=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,778,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="65552557" Received: from ironmsg04-r.qualcomm.com ([172.30.46.18]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2013 05:32:57 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,778,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="576130193" Received: from nasanexhc08.na.qualcomm.com ([172.30.39.7]) by Ironmsg04-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 30 Jul 2013 05:32:57 -0700 Received: from [10.35.200.44] (172.30.39.5) by qcmail1.qualcomm.com (172.30.39.7) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:32:56 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:31:20 -0700 To: Alexandru Petrescu , <87attendees@ietf.org> From: Randall Gellens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Originating-IP: [172.30.39.5] Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:33:10 -0000 At 10:08 AM +0200 7/30/13, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > Also, if breakfast is not offered to non-hotel attendees, then it would > make sense to reduce the fee for them. I don't follow. You're saying that if breakfast is included in the IETF rate at the hotel, that anyone not staying at the hotel (or, presumably, anyone staying at the hotel on a rate other than the IETF rate), that the IETF registration fee be reduced? Why? When breakfast is included in the IETF rate, then it is completely disassociated from the IETF meeting registration fee. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- "The meat is rotten, but the booze is holding out." --alleged computer translation of "The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." From ietf-secretariat@ietf.org Tue Jul 30 05:35:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E6211E81E1; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:35:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.244 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.244 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.356, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FM-uviXmPueb; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D3B21E80DE; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:35:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: IETF Secretariat To: 87all@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.60p1 Message-ID: <20130730123535.4102.7988.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:35:35 -0700 Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Tickets for Tonight X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: 87all@ietf.org List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:35:47 -0000 The social tickets are now gone. Thanks for your interest and we will see y= ou there tonight! 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Scudder" From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Alexandru Petrescu Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:38:40 -0000 At 9:27 AM +0100 7/30/13, Tim Chown wrote: > The loss of a shared "community" breakfast redues opportunities to > meet people, and have breakfast discussions where people are in > different hotels and would have to pay for a breakfast in the > meeting hotel. *shrug* There has always been a non-trivial percentage of IETFers who didn't eat the IETF breakfast. Some skip breakfast, some eat at their hotel, some eat at a cafe. There are multiple opportunities to interact with people and have conversations, including breaks, lunches, dinners, bars. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- When working on a project, if you put away a tool that you're certain you're finished with, you will need it instantly. 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[130.129.23.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id at2sm26945324pac.11.2013.07.30.06.03.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:03:11 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Gellens References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:03:17 -0000 Le 30/07/2013 14:31, Randall Gellens a écrit : > At 10:08 AM +0200 7/30/13, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > >> Also, if breakfast is not offered to non-hotel attendees, then it >> would make sense to reduce the fee for them. > > I don't follow. You're saying that if breakfast is included in the > IETF rate at the hotel, that anyone not staying at the hotel (or, > presumably, anyone staying at the hotel on a rate other than the IETF > rate), that the IETF registration fee be reduced? No. I am suggesting that if no IETF Breakfast for non-residents of the IETF Hotel (e.g. stay at friends' or other non-IETF hotel) then reduce their IETF fee. (otherwise put: if IETF Breakfast only for IETF Hotel residents then their IETF fee should be higher) (and no, I have no clue about the overall funding scheme; maybe other factors change this altogether). > Why? When breakfast is included in the IETF rate, then it is > completely disassociated from the IETF meeting registration fee. Ok. Speaking of which I wonder what's the size of the block (number of rooms) reserved at the InterContinental for IETFers? 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Thread-Index: AQHOjDiTSNizPoZFVEGQf+8iYPW0G5l70BMAgAAAiYCAAAHQAIAAXQMAgAAIMACAAA6fAIAAFPiAgAAGpoCAAAHwgIAANw2AgAABjoCAALiMAIAASVcAgAAI54CAAANSAA== Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:15:05 +0000 Message-ID: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B630775237111@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Randall Gellens Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:15:14 -0000 On Jul 30, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > No. I am suggesting that if no IETF Breakfast for non-residents of the > IETF Hotel (e.g. stay at friends' or other non-IETF hotel) then reduce > their IETF fee. You pay for your breakfast with your room. The IETF is not subsidizing yo= ur breakfast. If you stay in a different hotel, breakfast at the IETF hot= el is not included in your room rate, so there is nothing to refund. 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[130.129.23.90]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qb15sm27008886pab.13.2013.07.30.06.20.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51F7BDA5.2040700@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:20:37 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ted Lemon References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B630775237111@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> In-Reply-To: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B630775237111@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Randall Gellens Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:20:54 -0000 Le 30/07/2013 15:15, Ted Lemon a écrit : > On Jul 30, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Alexandru Petrescu > wrote: >> No. I am suggesting that if no IETF Breakfast for non-residents >> of the IETF Hotel (e.g. stay at friends' or other non-IETF hotel) >> then reduce their IETF fee. > > You pay for your breakfast with your room. The IETF is not > subsidizing your breakfast. If you stay in a different hotel, > breakfast at the IETF hotel is not included in your room rate, so > there is nothing to refund. Ted, were I ask for refund I'd contact a specific person. Alex From johnl@taugh.com Tue Jul 30 06:49:12 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CD621E80C0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:49:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id udckOQvoyuQM for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EA111E81E2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 65301 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2013 13:49:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=ff14.51f7c457.k1307; bh=E78YIC49GRJR8Y96USgjSLN9Bc4XI6dbW10JCnKAuK4=; b=jkee2Ou+bu/HhkZjy6MzcUE+bBoaZfZReEY8jsx5OT1hPtxjRUipu+Asw5kfa2sLzhw+crmfuUOrrjNMXr29T5ObH7kFSwG7IJKliQozSUZZDk/z7I4l47J7aHoeaLWLGj27CDOQJUT04iKO83UpiiUxU9g2cC8DUUgKc1GhN9tC7mdSxuljBjlBtd4EZt7lqv1VitI/vBHtjWOSzgnu/R1kuNhNLlgxxMa8pM22YZnvHEKXxS5s50u29SNK3/JU DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=ff14.51f7c457.k1307; bh=E78YIC49GRJR8Y96USgjSLN9Bc4XI6dbW10JCnKAuK4=; b=BED3k2YG5UkepftB0VgvuRwqo5OlKRt3gKinyu+LSHjc8UylW/5pw1URB2WhVKl+C1olfmVCAh2rq3vhxUWhCq8oMwV75q0YSsNjFyWsb5Z/F3LMaumv2IoyQTA5ZPViMaOlNkvpdBp87q/0CvV6DxwbcPDWKH57SVlmCPBJMO+s0xnlU1r+x4Wq1XFGKIHZih9UGISrhU9xZVKqBI03WsIfmc6X0jIyiOmjXEMwZcNsDZSvTIPkWpUvFNvriIlk Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 30 Jul 2013 13:48:49 -0000 Date: 30 Jul 2013 15:49:10 +0200 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: 87attendees@ietf.org User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:49:12 -0000 > No. I am suggesting that if no IETF Breakfast for non-residents of the > IETF Hotel (e.g. stay at friends' or other non-IETF hotel) then reduce > their IETF fee. Really, there is no IETF breakfast for anyone at this meeting. If you're staying at the IC and your room rate includes breakfast, you get breakfast. This is true whether you're going to the IETF meeting or not. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From vdolmatov@gmail.com Tue Jul 30 06:57:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 842E111E81F7 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:57:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.299 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.299 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MV294LdKF39U for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-x232.google.com (mail-pb0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::232]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E77011E81E2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id uo5so2690129pbc.23 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:57:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=tibm+feXjZj4ieHvJCmWTSvYKswDWGO84YCe7+kF5e8=; b=mD0l1lexw7A+MCsqrd41l+jbicSdUlBnjmRjJKqiJ3bSD9+r0tpCprB9FQPeLlmCUn KS+fWj11+N3RB3G21MSBbNxExKhfabrqUQusxDMFEKkSDXcpuZcI31EgSRMKFeDJgKsH sSCO46s3AXoLmKPcO9ksSbcZaN3TOEUsqwu7VCW8IdKMSJxKO0KWRg20sED2HN2uu7Nz Vc9SR23J9kH1mIeV5HqRPtmlW0czEBSNhMzoGlmgssqUlyvuPX+CFLltS345UTRMdsUX vqUK3SIS9+J34jn4fth/BjRP4EEf4fFpHyK//bEfom4DY8EBA9dGSFU7aR5xZ5OS+AQ6 r8Vw== X-Received: by 10.68.143.73 with SMTP id sc9mr74398559pbb.2.1375192638049; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 06:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-15a9.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-15a9.meeting.ietf.org. 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Scudder X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Tim Chown , Alexandru Petrescu Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:57:23 -0000 On 30.07.2013, at 12:40, John G. Scudder wrote: >=20 >=20 > Since I'm wasting the bandwidth anyway, I'll +1 the sentiment that for = my purposes, the hotel breakfast is vastly preferable to the North = American stand-up variety. Obviously, YMMV. Yes. +1 Tempora mutantum and now it become the norm to serve so called = "continental breakfast" in most hotels in NA and include it in the room = price. At least I have had no problems with that, during my trip along US. dol@ From david.black@emc.com Tue Jul 30 07:26:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C1221E80FA for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:26:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m6GIXKmLy-Fo for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (hop-nat-141.emc.com [168.159.213.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FA0121F9C98 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si01.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI01.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.54]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id r6UEPmuB015175 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:25:48 -0400 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (mailhubhoprd01.lss.emc.com [10.254.221.251]) by hop04-l1d11-si01.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:25:35 -0400 Received: from mxhub23.corp.emc.com (mxhub23.corp.emc.com [128.222.70.135]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id r6UEPUBe024779; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:25:33 -0400 Received: from mx15a.corp.emc.com ([169.254.1.184]) by mxhub23.corp.emc.com ([128.222.70.135]) with mapi; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:25:30 -0400 From: "Black, David" To: Eldad Zack , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Importance: high X-Priority: 1 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:25:30 -0400 Thread-Topic: Public transport to social event? Thread-Index: Ac6NMJ+7TfyLxig6SNa/NQHR3wnYWw== Message-ID: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE7129857DFDF@MX15A.corp.emc.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-EMM-MHVC: 1 Cc: "Black, David" , Fernando Gont Subject: [87attendees] Public transport to social event? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:26:14 -0000 > To get to the meeting from the IETF venue with public transportation, > you can take the 200 bus to the zoo (Zoologischer Garten), change > to the 245 bus and get off the bus at Marchbr=FCcke. >=20 > Hope to see you there! Are you sure? The Deutsches Technikmuseum Berlin website has this to say about public transit (http://www.sdtb.de/Visitor-information-at-a-glanc= e.1236.0.html): Underground lines U1, U7 M=F6ckernbr=FCcke U1, U2 Gleisdreieck The U2 serves the Zoo U-Bahn station. Marchbruecke on the 245 appears to b= e in the other direction from Zoo than the museum. Thanks, --David From chelliot@gmail.com Tue Jul 30 07:33:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6325321F96DA for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:33:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MGkATmS9v4xn for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x231.google.com (mail-la0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839F421E80CC for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f49.google.com with SMTP id ev20so1839229lab.22 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:32:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=HtERVKM1mISeyzpx0RpGmA+DfJSrqF/FvH9lw0uXm1U=; b=w4/GWHmq9e9SzkwdANflI7svLAGIpX1/R4b+qNZSEzkf1Z9bjt7TCFIqAUmdjjZXLx dON34OXRfKEF+g/+7n8ICNTPOEAs/Hlb4nfMUxxXzb+Zps2sn5M0l8fEdF6Tn1YBdj6i H8zFKQEBSq/TYrNvCbYYqMVKENTTj45snUkoMlhdjukXAYmNoQKZNeXpyWtqERHBCECW EKgR//N7nZ2MK+sCsO1P39ayAmbod7/qLJK/l/lwwgu4HQyx/SLak1NJc/n411Lx5t4D 85U/6TAuofeg5fJm1luH6GR+EgsobvcHAJnL3xaE77y+j3hUnJyx5Jxh+PX5SyK/YiOV 6AFw== X-Received: by 10.152.9.37 with SMTP id w5mr10518206laa.23.1375194724805; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:32:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chelliot@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.3.44 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:31:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE7129857DFDF@MX15A.corp.emc.com> References: <8D3D17ACE214DC429325B2B98F3AE7129857DFDF@MX15A.corp.emc.com> From: Chris Elliott Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:31:43 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: GoNgmx_MvBfINo9085_-z_t4wLw Message-ID: To: "Black, David" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e014946f411b19304e2bb79df Cc: Eldad Zack , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Fernando Gont Subject: Re: [87attendees] Public transport to social event? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: chelliot@pobox.com List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:33:33 -0000 --089e014946f411b19304e2bb79df Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From the host site: http://www.ietf87.de/social-event/ Transportation Shuttles will be provided from/to the InterContinental at 18:30. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Black, David wrote: > > > To get to the meeting from the IETF venue with public transportation, > > you can take the 200 bus to the zoo (Zoologischer Garten), change > > to the 245 bus and get off the bus at Marchbr=FCcke. > > > > Hope to see you there! > > Are you sure? The Deutsches Technikmuseum Berlin website has this to > say about public transit ( > http://www.sdtb.de/Visitor-information-at-a-glance.1236.0.html): > > Underground lines > U1, U7 M=F6ckernbr=FCcke > U1, U2 Gleisdreieck > > The U2 serves the Zoo U-Bahn station. Marchbruecke on the 245 appears to > be > in the other direction from Zoo than the museum. > > Thanks, > --David > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > --=20 Chris Elliott chelliot@pobox.com --089e014946f411b19304e2bb79df Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From the host site:


http://www.ietf87.de/social-event/

= Transportation

Shut= tles will be provided from/to the InterContinental at 18:30.

=A0



On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:25 PM, = Black, David <david.black@emc.com> wrote:

> To get to the meeting from the IETF venue with public transportation,<= br> > you can take the 200 bus to the zoo (Zoologischer Garten), change
> to the 245 bus and get off the bus at Marchbr=FCcke.
>
> Hope to see you there!

Are you sure? =A0The Deutsches Technikmuseum Berlin website has this to
say about public transit (http://www.sdtb.de/Visitor-info= rmation-at-a-glance.1236.0.html):

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Underground lines
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 U1, U7 M=F6ckernbr=FCcke
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 U1, U2 Gleisdreieck

The U2 serves the Zoo U-Bahn station. =A0Marchbruecke on the 245 appears to= be
in the other direction from Zoo than the museum.

Thanks,
--David

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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:38:15 -0000 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:25:30AM -0400, Black, David wrote: > Are you sure? The Deutsches Technikmuseum Berlin website has this to > say about public transit (http://www.sdtb.de/Visitor-information-at-a-glance.1236.0.html): > > Underground lines > U1, U7 Möckernbrücke > U1, U2 Gleisdreieck > > The U2 serves the Zoo U-Bahn station. Marchbruecke on the 245 appears to be > in the other direction from Zoo than the museum. "Alle Wege führen nach Rom." recommends bus 200 to Potsdamer Platz (departs opposite side of the street, passes some nice buildings), running every 10 minutes; from there use U2 to Station "Gleisdreieck". Total travel time 27 mins. Don't forget your tickets! The shuttle buses will depart beginning 1830. We'll try to be, uh, flexible. -Peter From david.black@emc.com Tue Jul 30 07:44:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5C6711E81FF for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:44:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s9fetfRHQifH for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mexforward.lss.emc.com (hop-nat-141.emc.com [168.159.213.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676AF11E8210 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hop04-l1d11-si04.isus.emc.com (HOP04-L1D11-SI04.isus.emc.com [10.254.111.24]) by mexforward.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id r6UEhodw004608 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:43:50 -0400 Received: from mailhub.lss.emc.com (mailhubhoprd01.lss.emc.com [10.254.221.251]) by hop04-l1d11-si04.isus.emc.com (RSA Interceptor); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:43:40 -0400 Received: from mxhub13.corp.emc.com (mxhub13.corp.emc.com [128.222.70.234]) by mailhub.lss.emc.com (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id r6UEhdgJ011921; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:43:39 -0400 Received: from mx15a.corp.emc.com ([169.254.1.184]) by mxhub13.corp.emc.com ([128.222.70.234]) with mapi; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:43:38 -0400 From: "Black, David" To: Derek Atkins Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:43:37 -0400 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Public transport to social event? 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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:44:04 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --3825401791-1600491716-1375195437=:2399 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > Underground lines > U1, U7 Möckernbrücke > U1, U2 Gleisdreieck I took the U2 to a similar event at the museum last year. The station is about a block away, and there are signs telling you how to get to it if you can't recognize the C-47 on the roof. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. --3825401791-1600491716-1375195437=:2399-- From mcr@sandelman.ca Tue Jul 30 07:49:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6232421E80FE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:49:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.291 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.291 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.308, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CCE-1vQTWdAm for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3::184]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B143921E80FC for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 07:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA44A20184; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 1FD4863A7C; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:47:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15978636AD; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:47:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Randall Gellens In-Reply-To: References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <0B773D0A-B9D8-4882-8BD5-53C004B53207@juniper.net> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3-dev; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Sender: mcr@sandelman.ca Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, "John G. Scudder" , Tim Chown , Alexandru Petrescu Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:49:00 -0000 --=-=-= Tim: >> The loss of a shared "community" breakfast redues opportunities to meet >> people, and have breakfast discussions where people are in different hotels >> and would have to pay for a breakfast in the meeting hotel. Randall Gellens wrote: > *shrug* There has always been a non-trivial percentage of IETFers who didn't > eat the IETF breakfast. Some skip breakfast, some eat at their hotel, some > eat at a cafe. There are multiple opportunities to interact with people and > have conversations, including breaks, lunches, dinners, bars. While I agree with Tim, not only do many skip breakfast, but a lot of the people who one might want to socialize with are I* (or nomcom) types, who now tend to use breakfast as a meeting time. I think that the value of an IETF provided breakfast is very low. 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Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:12:22 +0000 Received: from nelliot-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net (193.110.54.36) by pod51010.outlook.com (10.255.243.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.341.1; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:12:20 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Jeffrey Haas In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:06:17 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <3962095A-F78A-4CE4-8DF3-CA2527F182C0@juniper.net> References: <11114.1375171688@sandelman.ca> <51F77578.3060208@nomountain.net> To: Randall Gellens X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Originating-IP: [193.110.54.36] X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%NOMOUNTAIN.NET$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%QTI.QUALCOMM.COM$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Melinda Shore Subject: Re: [87attendees] mics are open X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:12:53 -0000 http://xkcd.com/525/ On Jul 30, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 12:12 AM -0800 7/30/13, Melinda Shore wrote: > >> !! Don't *tell* people - you never know what you'll overhear on the >> pre-meeting audio. Hate to see that undermined. > > What have you heard? Anything juicy? > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully > as when they do it from religious conviction. > --Blaise Pascal, 17th-century French mathematician and religious > philosopher > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > From jhaas@juniper.net Tue Jul 30 08:12:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2611921F9D4C for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:12:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.533 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.533 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, UNRESOLVED_TEMPLATE=3.132] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wVyVN7qQtAx7 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:12:27 +0000 Received: from nelliot-sslvpn-nc.jnpr.net (193.110.54.36) by pod51010.outlook.com (10.255.243.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.341.1; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:12:25 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Jeffrey Haas In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:12:26 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: References: <11114.1375171688@sandelman.ca> <51F77578.3060208@nomountain.net> To: Randall Gellens X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Originating-IP: [193.110.54.36] X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%IETF.ORG$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%NOMOUNTAIN.NET$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%12219$Dn%QTI.QUALCOMM.COM$RO%2$TLS%5$FQDN%onpremiseedge-1018244.customer.frontbridge.com$TlsDn%o365mail.juniper.net X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Melinda Shore Subject: Re: [87attendees] mics are open X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:12:53 -0000 http://xkcd.com/525/ On Jul 30, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 12:12 AM -0800 7/30/13, Melinda Shore wrote: > >> !! Don't *tell* people - you never know what you'll overhear on the >> pre-meeting audio. Hate to see that undermined. > > What have you heard? Anything juicy? > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully > as when they do it from religious conviction. > --Blaise Pascal, 17th-century French mathematician and religious > philosopher > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > From btv1==923f6831a3d==hscholz@acmepacket.com Tue Jul 30 08:28:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D5F21E8111 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:28:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.600, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dk65oLGfngaU for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx1.acmepacket.com (mx1.acmepacket.com [216.41.24.33]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1A321E8107 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:28:30 -0700 (PDT) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1375198102-03fc200f16c06c4000b-zkFhpE Received: from Mail1.acmepacket.com (mail1.acmepacket.com [10.0.0.21]) by mx1.acmepacket.com with ESMTP id gaG2Y5lQKfFLMJDj (version=TLSv1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:28:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: hscholz@acmepacket.com Received: from [130.129.64.184] (10.0.0.30) by Mail1.acmepacket.com (10.0.0.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.283.3; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:28:09 -0400 Message-ID: <51F7DB7C.3010907@acmepacket.com> X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 130.129.64.184 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:27:56 +0200 From: Hendrik Scholz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: <87attendees@ietf.org> References: <916976BB-4C25-4C4E-B3C8-E798B97286F3@vidyo.com> X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [87attendees] Menswear store? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [10.0.0.30] X-Barracuda-Connect: mail1.acmepacket.com[10.0.0.21] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1375198105 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: AES128-SHA X-Barracuda-URL: http://spam.acmepacket.com:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi Received-SPF: none (acmepacket.com: hscholz@acmepacket.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at acmepacket.com X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using per-user scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=9.0 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.137438 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [87attendees] Menswear store? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:28:39 -0000 Hi, On 07/30/2013 11:02 AM, Suhas Nandakumar wrote: > There is a shop near Suksan Thai restaurant signal , that seems to > have belts .. but it is not a menswear shop in particular. KaDeWe is always an option. I much prefer the Peek&Cloppenburg next to it, though. They should both be open until 8PM today. Regards, Hendrik -- Hendrik Scholz, Product Manager Fraud Detection and Prevention Phone: +49 171 285 8918 Acme Packet GmbH, Karl-Liebknecht-Str 5 | 10178 Berlin, Germany Registered at: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg | Registrar No: HRB 101010 B Managing Directors: Ralf Herrmann, Alexander Hoffmann, Ulrich Abend VAT-ID: DE814651313 From swb@internet2.edu Tue Jul 30 08:33:19 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1869B11E80F9 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:33:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.103, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vqchK-TLYtFN for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from db9outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (mail-db9lp0251.outbound.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.251]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9CF21F9974 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail49-db9-R.bigfish.com (10.174.16.234) by DB9EHSOBE019.bigfish.com (10.174.14.82) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:33:11 +0000 Received: from mail49-db9 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail49-db9-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201493C027A; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:33:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.237.5; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:BY2PRD0811HT005.namprd08.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: 8 X-BigFish: S8(zzbb2dI98dIzz1f42h1d77h208ch1ee6h1de0h1fdah2073h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ah1fc6h1082kzzz2dh2a8h668h839h947hd25he5bhf0ah1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh162dh1631h1758h1765h18e1h190ch1946h19b4h19c3h19ceh1ad9h1b0ah1d0ch1d2eh1d3fh1dfeh1dffh1e1dh1f5fh1b1cn1b1bi1155h) Received: from mail49-db9 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail49-db9 (MessageSwitch) id 1375198389178937_1135; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB9EHSMHS032.bigfish.com (unknown [10.174.16.230]) by mail49-db9.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EEB20046; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:33:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BY2PRD0811HT005.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (157.56.237.5) by DB9EHSMHS032.bigfish.com (10.174.14.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:33:07 +0000 Received: from dhcp-1668.meeting.ietf.org (130.129.22.104) by pod51019.outlook.com (10.255.91.168) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.341.1; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:33:05 +0000 Message-ID: <51F7DCAF.7020905@internet2.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:33:03 +0200 From: Scott Brim Organization: Internet2 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexandru Petrescu References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [130.129.22.104] X-OriginatorOrg: internet2.edu X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Randall Gellens Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:33:19 -0000 On 07/30/13 15:03, Alexandru Petrescu allegedly wrote: > No. I am suggesting that if no IETF Breakfast for non-residents of the > IETF Hotel (e.g. stay at friends' or other non-IETF hotel) then reduce > their IETF fee. IETF is not paying any of the hotels for anyone's breakfast. Why should they pay for your breakfast if you are staying with a friend? From sanjay.mishra@verizon.com Tue Jul 30 08:42:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5EEA11E81FD for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:42:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.266 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.266 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.333, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RTMlZbqQNFPJ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omzsmtpe03.verizonbusiness.com (omzsmtpe03.verizonbusiness.com [199.249.25.208]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBBE11E8215 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:42:14 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: false Received: from unknown (HELO fldsmtpi02.verizon.com) ([166.68.71.144]) by omzsmtpe03.verizonbusiness.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2013 15:42:13 +0000 From: "Mishra, Sanjay" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,778,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="517240041" Received: from fhdp1lumxc7hb03.verizon.com (HELO FHDP1LUMXC7HB03.us.one.verizon.com) ([166.68.59.190]) by fldsmtpi02.verizon.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2013 15:42:13 +0000 Received: from fhdp1lumxc7v23.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.159]) by FHDP1LUMXC7HB03.us.one.verizon.com ([166.68.59.190]) with mapi; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:42:12 -0400 To: Michael Richardson , Randall Gellens Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:42:11 -0400 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? Thread-Index: Ac6NM/w4XTCiV32/QmGf8/eCSFWD3QABXQWA Message-ID: <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77FB90D3@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <0B773D0A-B9D8-4882-8BD5-53C004B53207@juniper.net> <7986.1375195656@sandelman.ca> In-Reply-To: <7986.1375195656@sandelman.ca> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, "John G. Scudder" , Tim Chown , Alexandru Petrescu Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:42:33 -0000 Breakfast is inclusive in the negotiated rate and I am not so sure if the n= egotiated rates would have been any lower if breakfast was not included. Si= nce IETF is not charging nor organizing breakfast, I am not sure why the de= bate continues.=20 Anyone who has made reservations under IETF negotiated rates breakfast is t= hen available and it is up to the individual to use it or forego. If anyone= not staying at IETF negotiated Hotel then there is no debate. The cost of = breakfast is not part of the IETF attendance fee. Sanjay -----Original Message----- From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Michael Richardson Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 4:48 PM To: Randall Gellens Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org; John G. Scudder; Tim Chown; Alexandru Petrescu Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? Tim: >> The loss of a shared "community" breakfast redues opportunities to m= eet >> people, and have breakfast discussions where people are in different= hotels >> and would have to pay for a breakfast in the meeting hotel. Randall Gellens wrote: > *shrug* There has always been a non-trivial percentage of IETFers who= didn't > eat the IETF breakfast. Some skip breakfast, some eat at their hotel= , some > eat at a cafe. There are multiple opportunities to interact with peo= ple and > have conversations, including breaks, lunches, dinners, bars. While I agree with Tim, not only do many skip breakfast, but a lot of the p= eople who one might want to socialize with are I* (or nomcom) types, who no= w tend to use breakfast as a meeting time. I think that the value of an IETF provided breakfast is very low. That isn't to say I don't value beverages at 9am before I go into a session= . -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works From philip_matthews@magma.ca Tue Jul 30 08:47:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E725C11E8103 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:47:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jvxCse5HJC7b for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-01.primus.ca (smtp1.primus.ca [209.216.129.80]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203C221F9C28 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-54fe.meeting.ietf.org ([130.129.84.254]) by mail-01.primus.ca with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1V4C8T-0003m4-0h for 87attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:46:53 -0400 From: Philip Matthews Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:46:51 +0200 Message-Id: <291051D6-FC07-4714-8CB4-5F4AB79C7EA3@magma.ca> To: 87attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Authenticated: philip_matthews - dhcp-54fe.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.84.254] Subject: [87attendees] Multiple copies of msgs? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:47:01 -0000 Anyone else receiving multiple copies of msgs posted to 87 attendees? 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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:48:46 -0000 --001a11c29e94b548cb04e2bc8af2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 do they have air condition there? -Hui --001a11c29e94b548cb04e2bc8af2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--001a11c29e94b548cb04e2bc8af2-- From Ted.Lemon@nominum.com Tue Jul 30 08:57:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B7D11E8228 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:57:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.534 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.534 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.065, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dfOEH26HOxY3 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og125.obsmtp.com (exprod7og125.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.28]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A6D11E8224 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell-too.nominum.com ([64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob125.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUffiRIoCNBsDORBrGAO/kkhYxeukXOOi@postini.com; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:56:59 PDT Received: from archivist.nominum.com (archivist.nominum.com [64.89.228.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D851B8271 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.nominum.com (cas-01.win.nominum.com [64.89.228.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by archivist.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D9E8190065 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:56:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ted.Lemon@nominum.com) Received: from MBX-01.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.133]) by CAS-01.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.131]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:56:52 -0700 From: Ted Lemon To: "<87attendees@ietf.org> attendees" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Does anybody still need a social ticket? Thread-Index: AQHOjT1oCIxlIj2G/ESpZnlXHB3Udg== Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:56:51 +0000 Message-ID: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B6307752387A7@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [87attendees] Does anybody still need a social ticket? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ted Lemon List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:57:07 -0000 I apologize for not using the wiki, but iterative polling isn't succeeding.= Please reply just to me. First reply wins. From even.roni@gmail.com Tue Jul 30 09:01:03 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4EC21E80E9 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:00:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q7FmlTXXVW76 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-x231.google.com (mail-vb0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c02::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBE921F9BF0 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id w15so4039722vbb.36 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:59:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GeR0ueN0aYkpsYCOuzXqWrbl0u7Re0Q31LK/LLiExQE=; b=SYgilU1WG/2N69YL8u9agd3ecx7ykeRJQRRfCh2y60YfMLSpsncSvr/VcvXEGrkXNk 2BQKeFIaENu+mrB+MNg1IQSPHQerzd5hxYJvKZZQXqzi1kjWWb+53dbXXH1A6c9BEmpy HKJdyYQO7rYfVNiyW5OJjmgW4wJyfSm15zEh5KMymF4rWcXhBCLXkiggMFXHHNFTYtB2 i/siIev8DONrBZ9vkcc51x6/REHpMbzCl3XDDGMupdks0juSvfmoajszo5v+f0bvkyFu TWwExL735WZlpszrGCeGO9cGboudo7zuDcQaPd21qWw8Tbdq1jjNEtY1EyFVUYf45uF8 2EQA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.22.4 with SMTP id z4mr11565689vde.115.1375199991014; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.166.130 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:59:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:59:50 +0300 Message-ID: From: Roni Even To: Hui Deng Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5015e95f5ab0804e2bcb2e3 Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] is social place warm? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:01:03 -0000 --bcaec5015e95f5ab0804e2bcb2e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Useful visitor information at a glance *Please note:* *There is no A/C in the museum. * On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Hui Deng wrote: > do they have air condition there? > > -Hui > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > --bcaec5015e95f5ab0804e2bcb2e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Useful visitor information at a glance

Please note:

There is no A/C in the museum.



On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Hui Deng <denghui02@gmail.com= > wrote:
do they have air condi= tion there?
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--bcaec5015e95f5ab0804e2bcb2e3-- From sanz@denic.de Tue Jul 30 09:03:39 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACD911E8237 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:03:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gM391CYHzgKJ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.denic.de (office.denic.de [IPv6:2a02:568:122:16:1::4]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0508121F9CAC for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from notes1.fra2.osl.denic.de (notes1.fra2.osl.denic.de [10.122.50.48]) by office.denic.de with esmtp id 1V4CLp-0002AZ-QQ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:00:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: X-KeepSent: 68BD14A5:D1313010-C1257BB8:0057D16A; type=4; name=$KeepSent To: Hui Deng X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.5.3FP1 Septem 15, 2011 From: Marcos Sanz Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:00:34 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on notes/Denic at 30.07.2013 18:00:41 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] is social place warm? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:03:39 -0000 > do they have air condition there? You can be in the inside of the building, you can be in the outside, but either way: No, there is no AC, so I'd say it's "comfy warm". Best, Marcos From cabo@tzi.org Tue Jul 30 09:04:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA5E21F91CE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:04:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.013 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.013 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.236, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wON9tNA7YcIZ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B3F21E80E6 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:01:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6UG1D74012769; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:01:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dhcp-90f8.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-90f8.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.8.248]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D659466; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:01:13 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:01:12 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Hui Deng X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] is social place warm? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:04:45 -0000 On Jul 30, 2013, at 17:48, Hui Deng wrote: > do they have air condition there? http://www.sdtb.de/Visitor-information-at-a-glance.1236.0.html says: > Please note: > There is no A/C in the museum. But then it's no longer really warm in Berlin: http://www.yr.no/place/Germany/Berlin/Berlin/hour_by_hour.html (between 24 =B0C and 20 =B0C during the social.) Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten From alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com Tue Jul 30 09:06:13 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA7D11E8234 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:06:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.131 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.131 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.118, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VEncqtradfPc for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.145]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C9B21E8091 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id r6UG3pNS023892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:03:52 +0200 Received: from muguet1.intra.cea.fr (muguet1.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.6]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6UG3pXN024317 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:03:51 +0200 (envelope-from alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([132.166.86.5]) by muguet1.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id r6UG3iEO004786 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:03:51 +0200 Message-ID: <51F7E3E0.6010101@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:03:44 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> <51F7DCAF.7020905@internet2.edu> In-Reply-To: <51F7DCAF.7020905@internet2.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:06:13 -0000 Le 30/07/2013 17:33, Scott Brim a écrit : > On 07/30/13 15:03, Alexandru Petrescu allegedly wrote: >> No. I am suggesting that if no IETF Breakfast for non-residents of >> the IETF Hotel (e.g. stay at friends' or other non-IETF hotel) then >> reduce their IETF fee. > > IETF is not paying any of the hotels for anyone's breakfast. Why > should they pay for your breakfast if you are staying with a friend? Do you mean that - when in North America and there is IETF Breakfast - it is little appropriate to take IETF Breakfast if one doesnt stay at IETF hotel? Alex > > > _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing > list 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > From mary.h.barnes@gmail.com Tue Jul 30 09:08:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3E521F9C37 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:08:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RG1ACFdv64aG for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-x22f.google.com (mail-vb0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22f]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8084C21E80E9 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:06:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id h10so3919789vbh.6 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:06:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0WmoQ/ClpN1ULrI3hvR8E82F/uxbjlT3ID+DKG+8qQ8=; b=dBZENG3TTdQpFk8/S4nkv7wAL5f5E9XM2AkDEOT+6QoU7N46ppVdvqwAKvXxEHodTk MDmiVHoqwwye7ZltC2Z8SbCHcl/byei71k05p+/7RnBZci92o5rLML4ncZGAsO/VGGIq kkk354ukFNSzUsWNhyXZqvLm6mzbK/UBlUUD9j9AW1erjlHSSugDRFTdneHI+Udy2OOF KSeqx6ewKt5EKqG/XOKtp3f1W3JEx14/BpdU4RIJ9jaGjP4eVvNvi1mOK0Ox/bwkrrBK RpBn6rCo5l5owBHXZKcjMaTljqIgwkNxxYRgZQdxSB8jCVZ4hX9VykvDkisqGqw7eq4b 941g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.29.106 with SMTP id j10mr22268607vdh.77.1375200401935; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.74.97 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:06:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:06:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Hui Deng Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3079b74073d2b104e2bccbaa Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] is social place warm? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:08:32 -0000 --20cf3079b74073d2b104e2bccbaa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would make the assumption that given the number of people it may well be quite warm, in particular in the food area. However, museums often having very effective temperature control systems. The usual suggestion is to bring a sweater or fleece if you are prone to being cold. My guess is that they would have a coat check should you need it. Mary On Tuesday, July 30, 2013, Hui Deng wrote: > do they have air condition there? > > -Hui > --20cf3079b74073d2b104e2bccbaa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would make the assumption that given the number of people it may well be = quite warm, =A0in particular in the food area. =A0However, museums often ha= ving very effective temperature control systems. =A0The usual suggestion is= to bring a sweater or fleece if you are prone to being cold. =A0My guess i= s that they would have a coat check should you need it. =A0

Mary

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013, Hui Deng= wrote:
do they ha= ve air condition there?
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-Hui
--20cf3079b74073d2b104e2bccbaa-- From mary.h.barnes@gmail.com Tue Jul 30 09:09:29 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16DD911E822A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:09:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.766 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.766 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.833, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9PYqqjh9Znl9 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x22c.google.com (mail-ve0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22c]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D30321F9BA2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f172.google.com with SMTP id oz10so4290622veb.3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:08:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=KLE2jlRR11jrlKHSXjD3TUGO8F2wQi8ts0ZK2CiGcIQ=; b=XIGxvJqlHtU9CP1aHId/fVRoeJIBY4LIzdUWY+kfA2myKHoxAZ8KE3YdaYj30u1sQG d904tpqMekUqpKvqGEmCI2TdogACVGdP7uXBN3xCd7JlTPR9ubh1eraGKLYdjohod3lB b0F5PayM2qz7j5NrGQvCgKpcM+kSvKJOwMW35AQSfrbCvCXdS34v9WuqD0laNpFEZjb9 dPoP80XFPJFackBMulIZb0GoergEYvUd+JORvSx8lFPcQdMOHvWJjqhgxDDJ3lkKdu41 lXjxr9yXOvLkcDXp7UGnLA4YTN9xWckeAZUCCBdslRAFDjTDNuUOYSsqWxIznuJsusOS LThA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.101.138 with SMTP id c10mr1218275vco.19.1375200522841; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.74.97 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:08:42 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F7E3E0.6010101@gmail.com> References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> <51F7DCAF.7020905@internet2.edu> <51F7E3E0.6010101@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:08:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mary Barnes To: Alexandru Petrescu Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a9016a8b80004e2bcd2ad Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:09:29 -0000 --047d7b3a9016a8b80004e2bcd2ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes. When there is IETF provided breakfast (I.e., not the hotel cafe), it is for all attendees. On Tuesday, July 30, 2013, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > Le 30/07/2013 17:33, Scott Brim a =E9crit : > >> On 07/30/13 15:03, Alexandru Petrescu allegedly wrote: >> >>> No. I am suggesting that if no IETF Breakfast for non-residents of >>> the IETF Hotel (e.g. stay at friends' or other non-IETF hotel) then >>> reduce their IETF fee. >>> >> >> IETF is not paying any of the hotels for anyone's breakfast. Why >> should they pay for your breakfast if you are staying with a friend? >> > > Do you mean that - when in North America and there is IETF Breakfast - > it is little appropriate to take IETF Breakfast if one doesnt stay at > IETF hotel? > > Alex > > >> >> ______________________________**_________________ 87attendees mailing >> list 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/87attendees >> >> >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/87attendees > --047d7b3a9016a8b80004e2bcd2ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes. =A0When there is IETF provided breakfast (I.e., not the hotel cafe), = =A0
it is for all attendees. =A0

On Tuesday, July 3= 0, 2013, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
Le 30/07/2013 17:33, Scott Brim a =E9crit :
On 07/30/13 15:03, Alexandru Petrescu allegedly wrote:
No. =A0I am suggesting that if no IETF Breakfast for non-residents of
the IETF Hotel (e.g. stay at friends' or other non-IETF hotel) then
reduce their IETF fee.

IETF is not paying any of the hotels for anyone's breakfast. =A0Why
should they pay for your breakfast if you are staying with a friend?

Do you mean that - when in North America and there is IETF Breakfast -
it is little appropriate to take IETF Breakfast if one doesnt stay at
IETF hotel?

Alex



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--047d7b3a9016a8b80004e2bcd2ad-- From denghui02@gmail.com Tue Jul 30 09:11:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5995121F8BE6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:11:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69Pkw-3hiBvQ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x22b.google.com (mail-qa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22b]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B530B21F944C for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id cl20so2444604qab.16 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:11:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3UxPhGUXKdtAjktaKQGXH2lOCGoKDvF6Ufesi2KmaK4=; b=vaf97q2UBxLhgQQD59P7vX5x8SCbFgv3TTIwpzVWF8IOq3K3gD5tFN6c8VVX+w48Q1 EPSy8V55/zanOEkZ9DkhrhfYZZZ5eR/xZ8FyFozTxj8PAnpkQnPKj9eKkYIN/0EhZPxe e4XjliuPpjgnOdf4ze0enWgELGapbA4E5EkX86OrDcnIqMfLTJyjFYMMKykkWUhhF6ut fGALhWfK3JwRhUlDyk9bHwTyRAe7rz8DTysjpWBItYeTTSizFgB0/BQrtwGFCjI7NssS 2pgmR521hvGx1wnILDhA4qW/pJzsaK3iH0skijZcs7XrYicUFH5zoRqiVQPTk3xP8bTq KCZA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.76.140 with SMTP id c12mr3232948qck.109.1375200707913; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.16.42 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:11:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:11:47 +0200 Message-ID: From: Hui Deng To: Mary Barnes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002354470aacb0b01404e2bcdd32 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] is social place warm? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:11:49 -0000 --002354470aacb0b01404e2bcdd32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 thanks everybody -Hui 2013/7/30 Mary Barnes > I would make the assumption that given the number of people it may well be > quite warm, in particular in the food area. However, museums often having > very effective temperature control systems. The usual suggestion is to > bring a sweater or fleece if you are prone to being cold. My guess is that > they would have a coat check should you need it. > > Mary > > > On Tuesday, July 30, 2013, Hui Deng wrote: > >> do they have air condition there? >> >> -Hui >> > --002354470aacb0b01404e2bcdd32 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thanks everybody
=A0
-Hui


2013/7/30= Mary Barnes <mary.h.barnes@gmail.com>
I would make the assumption that given the n= umber of people it may well be quite warm, =A0in particular in the food are= a. =A0However, museums often having very effective temperature control syst= ems. =A0The usual suggestion is to bring a sweater or fleece if you are pro= ne to being cold. =A0My guess is that they would have a coat check should y= ou need it. =A0

Mary


On Tuesday, July = 30, 2013, Hui Deng wrote:
do they have air condition there?
=A0
-Hui

--002354470aacb0b01404e2bcdd32-- From mcr@sandelman.ca Tue Jul 30 09:16:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3900721F9E95 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:16:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.321 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.321 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.278, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eFQJTAaxXG0e for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3::184]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AFD921F9E67 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:16:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5031320251 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 860DE63A7C; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:14:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DBF636AD for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:14:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: "87attendees\@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> In-Reply-To: <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77FB90D3@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <0B773D0A-B9D8-4882-8BD5-53C004B53207@juniper.net> <7986.1375195656@sandelman.ca> <900A1E2 059ADB14 9B905E3C8FA0046A62C77FB90D3@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.verizon.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.2; nmh 1.3-dev; GNU Emacs 23.4.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Sender: mcr@sandelman.ca Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:16:09 -0000 --=-=-= Mishra, Sanjay wrote: > Breakfast is inclusive in the negotiated rate and I am not so sure if > the negotiated rates would have been any lower if breakfast was not > included. Since IETF is not charging nor organizing breakfast, I am not > sure why the debate continues. Other IETF meetings have included breakfast. Some people, at hotels where they did not negotiate breakfast and/or didn't like what was there, were surprised not to see breakfast, and/or at least wanted to know what the story was. -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBUffmaYqHRg3pndX9AQJT2wP/VNEYLaVAK+vQUOoDU5puV7Vlu0cKpoCM 8S9mua0rCkTOhEMBy8agg7b/10OpDY9QHTXhVy29pPL4YQNXse6v+3ED1NRVEW8c 04kvgXDEog+aFlbC1VpsHgVxyjj6ZOtAZypF+CWQk5diwQUatDgMIvqffjE+HvB0 Es6yZCvtpbM= =sNYa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From DAtkins@mocana.com Tue Jul 30 09:16:38 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E0E21F9E77 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:16:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.309 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.309 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.290, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5Men6YuzqAc4 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.mocana.com (smtp.mocana.com [IPv6:2001:470:8254:40:21d:92ff:fe68:1e6e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E549C21F9E94 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1375200985-01c78875e0354500002-zkFhpE Received: from email.mocana.com ([10.200.16.9]) by smtp.mocana.com with ESMTP id uhU45LeT52uwNyF5 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:16:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: DAtkins@mocana.com Received: from yugi.mocana.local ([10.200.16.9]) by yugi.mocana.local ([10.200.16.9]) with mapi; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:16:25 -0700 From: Derek Atkins To: Alexandru Petrescu Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:16:25 -0700 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? 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charset=US-ASCII Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:17:54 -0000 On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > > Do you mean that - when in North America and there is IETF Breakfast - > it is little appropriate to take IETF Breakfast if one doesnt stay at > IETF hotel? > > Alex > You are STILL missing how this works: 1. For some hotels in some parts of the world (current venue Berlin being an example), breakfast is included in the IETF-negotiated hotel rate. 2. For some hotels in some parts of the world (commonly in the US), breakfast is NOT included in the IETF-negotiated hotel rate, and so, breakfast is typically provided for all attendees. 3. The cost of the breakast in (2) is part of a much larger F&B package that is negotiated with the Hotel or Convention Center, (think giant cookies in the afternoon for example). Clear now? Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo From hiro@keio.w3.org Tue Jul 30 09:15:32 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C7D21E80CC for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:15:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.289 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.289 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.311, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tApOvlf0L0yw for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kappa.keio.w3.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:200:1c0:3601:216:3eff:fec1:ca52]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D8C21E808D for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:15:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=keio.w3.org; s=kappa; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Cc:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:From:References:In-Reply-To:Sender:MIME-Version; bh=nbSRkkDMVe+AM7/g1zEzwFHYSZLyhdeRuyBh//c8hKk=; b=wTnAOqVisnhk51xwOE1RF7cpemi5yvw5CpYW3Dy+27s4r1PFRbH7rEPyHs2zUZLbs0WbdG27Cuk4zA6RDumAPUwRK9NumTRHJ61BHuXUIrr9lYaQQNk2BvivgA+V35CJ; Received: from mail-vb0-x22e.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22e]) by kappa.keio.w3.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1V4CaA-0004Hz-5C for 87attendees@ietf.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:15:30 +0000 Received: by mail-vb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id p13so1579324vbe.33 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:15:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=keio.w3.org; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nbSRkkDMVe+AM7/g1zEzwFHYSZLyhdeRuyBh//c8hKk=; b=ltEFgaQQQ3SYeZRxS8sin6oxdhqQvEaBGPTe3cMUGvMnbxpu1Rf7iBAC+2TCmFtcms iDNyTqqZFfddOMsKSBpDpMxOx2gZKojjRT/I97pdcQ7Lr2mTG/93KeVwhx0g02U6UUIT NezbADMvJpAenwUtYvPf46jTBiXoCNg1huIOI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=nbSRkkDMVe+AM7/g1zEzwFHYSZLyhdeRuyBh//c8hKk=; b=JGWPO52kNPdeyL8l9uJ1BSveBMFKBkhfHm+oFcsYoMaxKqmyCyhXRZG2cX/mL6+Get vQf6HTuHQCrFtTXXT1kXooIVRDBp9X51r3y4Ota7kXK+Oxe4owMYzUGqYYZAmk6AuPJi qt6W3/sWfrc+l95Da3YS+MUQjoqOGwksKg2vz9AteKgRTUxc0lDrLLYMwtoIqoIVFkua fB0jDMuw1yEomZrY6MqYBMdYKR/Ibmbeggv97ctYsfnMAtM+CLNxQImxOjg1Pd7L4n5M jcqVw3tKtaRK5UP9NmTh1bd2MRKwkXQpVx+RAwt3GCcFnCUPocAeeXWM1IxyjKz1ZH6V CDVQ== X-Received: by 10.220.162.200 with SMTP id w8mr10316285vcx.90.1375200922682; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:15:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.220.162.200 with SMTP id w8mr10316282vcx.90.1375200922563; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:15:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: hiro@w3.org Received: by 10.220.136.204 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:14:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130730123535.4102.7988.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <20130730123535.4102.7988.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Hirotaka Nakajima Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:14:52 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _ddP5qRQOsMs_UnIbIoEGFDU-bU Message-ID: To: 87all@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkbe11OjLtXRjqOQTgpskuVKWHDC2rY37iIVr9SXpZPhlrETKy2qgMvt5pJjoMtRM08u+1h8ORUXZIrHbJyYuuOJfzQfoHgxgEBRQmsJGdCQmfgPp3i5KlsZsjQQa4pvy1DFa8HajCHlGox1coU9TIRkEXRjw== Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Social Tickets for Tonight X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:18:59 -0000 Hi Unfortunately I won=E2=80=99t be able to attend social tonight, But I have one ticket already purchased. Is anyone interested in my ticket? Hiro On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:35 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote: > The social tickets are now gone. Thanks for your interest and we will see= you there tonight! > > Regards, > The Secretariat > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --=20 Hirotaka Nakajima Systems Team, W3C/Keio http://www.w3.org/People/Hiro/ hiro@w3.org From trammell@tik.ee.ethz.ch Tue Jul 30 09:57:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B4CF21E80E3 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:56:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.918 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.918 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_MONEYTERMS=0.681] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D08+dtwQglPq for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch (smtp.ee.ethz.ch [129.132.2.219]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A117521E80EA for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AF1D93A2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:56:14 +0200 (MEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new on smtp.ee.ethz.ch Received: from smtp.ee.ethz.ch ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (.ee.ethz.ch [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id jAsSK8i-wsOQ for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:56:13 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [10.103.1.29] (unknown [195.50.139.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: briant) by smtp.ee.ethz.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D016DD9315 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:56:13 +0200 (MEST) From: Brian Trammell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <870880DE-738E-4576-8BF2-4FCD9032CD1B@tik.ee.ethz.ch> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:56:09 +0200 To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Subject: [87attendees] found: power adapter in Tiergarten 1/2 X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:57:08 -0000 Greetings, all, We found a power adapter for a laptop by the chairs' table in Tiergarten = 1/2 today at 18:30; couldn't turn it in to the secretariat as they'd = already packed up for the day. I'll have it with me at the social event; = if unclaimed, I'll turn it into the secretariat first thing in the = morning tomorrow. Cheers,=20 Brian= From suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com Tue Jul 30 10:27:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149A711E80D5 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:27:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.849 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.849 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.250, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nAUvbtrEnNYL for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E63F11E8208 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 10:26:19 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-b7f986d000007a82-84-51f7f73aa414 Received: from EUSAAHC001.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.75]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 3D.5A.31362.A37F7F15; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:26:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB107.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.124]) by EUSAAHC001.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.75]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:26:18 -0400 From: Suresh Krishnan To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: one social ticket available Thread-Index: Ac6NSeX4cqe6kmUoROC0rTDDSv/hDw== Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:26:17 +0000 Message-ID: <248abtq2x4osdqvpn8hluvqn.1375205130481@email.android.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <4F19A18AD81D524EA64F544765F46BF3@ericsson.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFlrGLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXSPt67V9++BBi/2q1k8bNrJ5sDosWTJ T6YAxigum5TUnMyy1CJ9uwSujDuXTrIU+FUs21fYwOjTxcjJISFgInH26zRWCFtM4sK99Wxd jFwcQgJHGSV6j02FcpYzSpztOARWxQbUsWHnZyYQW0TAUOJU2yN2EFtYQFViZssTFoi4lsSR 7lWsELaexIo/94BqODhYgGoe9DiChHkF3CT29R0DK2EEWvz91BqwkcwC4hK3nsxngjhIQGLJ nvPMELaoxMvH/1hBxjALaEqs36UPUW4t8ebjE3YIW1FiSvdDdojxghInZz5hmcAoPAvJ1FkI 3bOQdM9C0j0LSfcCRtZVjBylxalluelGhpsYgWF9TILNcQfjgk+WhxilOViUxHk36J0JFBJI TyxJzU5NLUgtii8qzUktPsTIxMEp1cBoL8Z2+b+gUaPStG13lK4uMVtWV3ilVeiMcuYuh8jZ uz5OmHAnROvx9tpf6+zMD53ZFMiwWkJVZp7W408XGX+w33boS9Jtf3Bb1CR9wel2BS2XjDre UtW80sWbsjsPratZHihv4nNg0tO2BUtFynJXLP/wMPu5hMmF9y9OPN7DNmNTiFZg/JNUJZbi jERDLeai4kQAkIgtGzkCAAA= Subject: [87attendees] one social ticket available X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:27:14 -0000 R290IG9uZSBzcGFyZSBzb2NpYWwgdGlja2V0LiBFbWFpbCBtZSBpZiB5b3UgbmVlZCBvbmUuIA== From John.Border@hughes.com Tue Jul 30 11:28:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3ED21E8093 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:28:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.265 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.265 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WZA9hZTWJhtD for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx0a-00115401.pphosted.com (mx0a-00115401.pphosted.com [67.231.145.24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D73921E8087 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0000863 [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00115401.pphosted.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r6UIJbLT022961; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:28:46 -0400 Received: from hnse9.hns.com (hnse9.hns.com [208.236.67.251]) by mx0a-00115401.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1dum3f3pnj-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:28:46 -0400 Received: from mail.hughes.com (expexchub.hughes.com [139.85.54.34]) by hnse9.hns.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.0/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.0) with ESMTP id r6UISifE004611 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:28:45 -0400 Received: from EXPEXCVS1.hughes.com ([139.85.54.39]) by expexchub1.hughes.com ([10.33.14.13]) with mapi; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:28:44 -0400 From: John Border To: Philip Matthews , "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:28:42 -0400 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Multiple copies of msgs? Thread-Index: Ac6NPA42i1es6SQ6QJ+dvGV8NCp4qAAFnhvQ Message-ID: <982B8F9A4E5BDC4B89FF7586464DD219020CEC086E8D@EXPEXCVS1.hughes.com> References: <291051D6-FC07-4714-8CB4-5F4AB79C7EA3@magma.ca> In-Reply-To: <291051D6-FC07-4714-8CB4-5F4AB79C7EA3@magma.ca> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-07-30_08:2013-07-30, 2013-07-30, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1307300121 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Multiple copies of msgs? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:28:53 -0000 I wasn't getting anything at all until a few hours ago. Maybe the list of = names was reentered and anyone who made it the first time is now in there t= wice... John -----Original Message----- From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Philip Matthews Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:47 AM To: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: [87attendees] Multiple copies of msgs? Anyone else receiving multiple copies of msgs posted to 87 attendees? This just started happening for me a few hours ago. - Philip _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com Tue Jul 30 12:33:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC6F21F9AD3 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:33:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id THAEz-JR8TR0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-x22c.google.com (mail-pb0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::22c]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9925121F9AB4 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id wy7so6372417pbc.3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:33:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=iFGx5cGa1R7hLqeNVzNQfbBPmNZZWO1sJw/s6vDJJx4=; b=SlqZWYaaT+w5k1fscWqproPbA8r6ti4jPT5+xI97Fc6Tvy/+jJVJseIRfPMwPk1UbP s/Q/NVuBdhiogkyR2P9vP1AJVz3AR5ekWDaaxqUAon7RxhhtsilqltG/lyXuT2+62oNb /bmLRfR2/k+bZ0AWa+kKQ2GgKMkV8c3rJk1pXkTCrUBahHhAqAQ73ZqbzTdOn6HRl9GZ 9N17MU9OFOwADwIc7GipxrvP0qk9KMn0TCyxPHQk1+2yoqVprGMdTuXj6kcdg5nMYcDO 9+wL3Ct/ErGHfaKx5Z2y1j11LEGTy/Ub3uHVnh7NSFwycpLR/NOrjqeK73vHC9kgz/2P q1uw== X-Received: by 10.68.137.134 with SMTP id qi6mr22553868pbb.154.1375212791215; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-431c.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-431c.meeting.ietf.org. [130.129.67.28]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kd1sm3070342pab.20.2013.07.30.12.33.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Gordon Lennox In-Reply-To: <982B8F9A4E5BDC4B89FF7586464DD219020CEC086E8D@EXPEXCVS1.hughes.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:33:05 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8A573782-BA96-4E77-BD5F-0495532D3272@gmail.com> References: <291051D6-FC07-4714-8CB4-5F4AB79C7EA3@magma.ca> <982B8F9A4E5BDC4B89FF7586464DD219020CEC086E8D@EXPEXCVS1.hughes.com> To: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: John Border Subject: Re: [87attendees] Multiple copies of msgs? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:33:17 -0000 Same here. /gordon On 30 Jul, 2013, at 20:28, John Border wrote: > I wasn't getting anything at all until a few hours ago. From rg+ietf@qti.qualcomm.com Tue Jul 30 13:28:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C6411E812A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:28:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FtYEC5xsZiUh for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabertooth02.qualcomm.com (sabertooth02.qualcomm.com [65.197.215.38]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BCB11E811E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:28:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1375216086; x=1406752086; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:to:from:subject: cc; bh=NwQE8txvi+B4UM/UW543eyPDy64qcIUaVJfDV9XQwCc=; b=GMyoW3Ql+Hvr83PvzqMvlbD4uz3gS13Po3GJfE67Sjg/5PCIwVdqPSBC qk/fgmqhdCQ3i+qvv3R7Zggld9jekBtSSjyRQ1IXOg392fNgi/MHZHDHa vM3E824HuMiPGgBbZjlm9MtLCMUug4a3uSD3CkYUqKlNt6j7v8ohiFwht w=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,781,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="48590726" Received: from ironmsg02-r.qualcomm.com ([172.30.46.16]) by sabertooth02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2013 13:28:05 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,780,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="86080774" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.35.200.44]) ([10.64.198.50]) by ironmsg02-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 30 Jul 2013 13:28:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1375200985.5686.35.camel@localhost> References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> <51F7DCAF.7020905@internet2.edu> <51F7E3E0.6010101@gmail.com> <1375200985.5686.35.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:18:14 -0700 To: Derek Atkins , Alexandru Petrescu From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:28:11 -0000 At 9:16 AM -0700 7/30/13, Derek Atkins wrote: > most hotels in the US cannot handle serving a > breakfast at the speed and scale required for an IETF (i.e. a buffet). It's exceedingly common for U.S. hotels to provide buffet breakfast. Some hotels always include breakfast for everyone, but most hotels have some rates with and some rates without. Some hotels have a very minimum breakfast (whole fruit, bread, sweet rolls, coffee) and most have some eggs and some pork. Many have omelette stations, even at lower-end hotels. At most hotel chains, elite members get at least continental breakfast free. Usually the fruit is merely unripe melon and a few whole apples and oranges. Usually there is no salmon. > In the US you're still welcome to book an hotel room that includes > breakfast (assuming you can find such a rate). It's usually not at all hard to find a rate that includes breakfast, but it's not always worth it (e.g., it may be that the hotel has a discount rate that doesn't have breakfast which is $30 lower than a rate with breakfast). Other times the rates may be the same (e.g., in January a few large chains have a sale during which rooms can be booked for any time in the coming year at 20-30% off and with breakfast thrown in). > It's really not that complicated. The "debate" here is mystifying, since the topic isn't complicated (either the IETF arranges breakfast or negotiates a rate at the hotel that includes it). No need to throw in stuff about U.S. hotels not having buffet breakfasts. They do. They usually don't have much selection, especially in the healthy/fresh category, but they do have a buffet. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Money isn't everything, but it keeps the kids in touch... From bakerj@mitre.org Tue Jul 30 13:37:24 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C87711E812A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:37:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.001, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4WIUE6vz0qwa for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (smtpksrv1.mitre.org [198.49.146.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B984321E80C6 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpksrv1.mitre.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id DE9541F02A7; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCCAS01.MITRE.ORG (imccas01.mitre.org [129.83.29.78]) by smtpksrv1.mitre.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21B91F05D5; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from IMCMBX03.MITRE.ORG ([169.254.3.165]) by IMCCAS01.MITRE.ORG ([129.83.29.68]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 16:37:17 -0400 From: "Baker, Jon" To: 'John Border' , 'Philip Matthews' , "'87attendees@ietf.org'" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Multiple copies of msgs? 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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:44:40 -0000 +1 Am Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 08:37:16PM +0000 schrieb Baker, Jon: > Odd I too was not getting Anything until mid day today???? From ietf@rozanak.com Tue Jul 30 15:19:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8739E21F9A70 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:19:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z823TE2J8ARp for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A220F21F9A49 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 15:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kopoli (g225090058.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.225.90.58]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MYwiB-1UaKmC0d3T-00UvHe; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:19:31 -0400 From: "Hosnieh Rafiee" To: "'Randall Gellens'" , "'Derek Atkins'" References: <003701ce8c82$239f90a0$6adeb1e0$@rozanak.com> <1375136543.5274.22.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 00:19:21 +0200 Message-ID: <001701ce8d72$dadb8210$90928630$@rozanak.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQERjWYgCi54TYFpHvnHjFq3o98KMQHF9BILAr/5o+wCpDGei5q+eVPg Content-Language: en-us X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:DKSATPl15ThPkE67NwI3DR61/xBAUTRkmwRbib0t4eJ LTW+QGWjEU48dozVL6CdFscszv3YoNRSxICSyW0HFNBR7ILbu5 iJuBKSTbaiLaZIKs+Rz3LvnCj/LUOO/D3B4D5gvZbm94yCOEP8 nc+rwaH2qifWagcLdiiiEKoZfUgWYWAUQnVK7YJLH+/G4lHKzN 61T2XnNcS1vXQOglRynTQtN9m5rvJDDQbZD9uyskGj4azx5i0S 6SIRw58p4Zco5PQZLk4PLbU9z7mDFQHCJknTCgpqjJQaAffpIn aeIXTkWqrUnY7gIio6MnD6kSbFGymMOGA4uUV16pqRbdYEtWTS 7jd9a/NPOj6FNThLQe5A= Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Security people? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 22:19:40 -0000 > > Also, look for anyone eating a lot of cookies and speaking really, >> really fast. Those seem to be associated with being a security >> person. > > Not all of speak at > 0.5 EKRs! >I wasn't suggesting that *all* security people have these characteristics, only that these characteristics do seem associated with security people :-) I guess I am not good at this. I could not identify even one of whom has this characteristics so that I can ask whether he/she works in security area... Hosnieh From chelliot@gmail.com Tue Jul 30 19:18:51 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDF111E814C for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:18:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.677 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.677 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, J_CHICKENPOX_41=0.6, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eL1NA1BcCjtx for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x234.google.com (mail-la0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA1511E8124 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fq13so94468lab.39 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:18:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=H8Z8YP3qNyvMeKCoFPU18+PPFo6ARqheZp2G5qXlhoQ=; b=jrQ0+udj/pHZOcYNVadiN4hVZRKTJpkfICCNmqwM3Sxxh4sPwW2VDxATn72HUcppEN mDa1CPXsX67U7YKCI/k99GRkXzyg384IxQ+mHmyzJLeJL5aPP+/QBHUkB/cD+39smDFy 7wXF6pyoicSpnTPSvfJ2+JKzyUOQopP4WvEbKeq1zg76jsDZg2LHQaPpBljRX8gc8WS/ xdcAMW5lk4uPda+FAdSMykN8vQ7Yu7CB3j9Fv4q2lLJQXND3DO0LJRDOpf7jBLQLEhb/ I/Vjfglkc7LYKpJUDfvtZdUtLfQQwMrMGJaKTIVLBDqopOXuXTOl6mJZw2yl7SN4X9qS LXjg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.21.34 with SMTP id s2mr8423036lae.55.1375237127706; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: chelliot@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.3.44 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:18:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1375179648.5686.5.camel@localhost> References: <76F05F8F-EBE8-4C93-AA94-4AA104DC8FF9@mocana.com> <51F68FE7.3010404@labs.htt-consult.com> <51F69CDE.3070900@redhat.com> <51F6E543.7070609@labs.htt-consult.com> <51F76C00.70205@redhat.com> <1375179648.5686.5.camel@localhost> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:18:47 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: FA3fKOFPrVdAcq_Q-XRNg72_wBQ Message-ID: From: Chris Elliott To: Derek Atkins Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0141aa9a7a9d8e04e2c55852 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Robert Moskowitz , Paul Wouters Subject: Re: [87attendees] Anyone using Fedora 18 on the IETF wifi? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: chelliot@pobox.com List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:18:51 -0000 --089e0141aa9a7a9d8e04e2c55852 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 All, After closer inspection by Derek and I of the error, when it happens, and the Linux source, we believe that it is likely that turning on 802.11n on the 2.4Ghz radios is likely to trigger this bug. I've changed my mind partly because it's clear now that it's while the client is processing beacons that the message is generated. So, I have turned off 802.11n on the 2.4Ghz radios so we can verify this. We may turn it back on one or more APs later if we get a fix or need to do further testing. Please let me know if you still see the issue. Chris. On Tuesday, July 30, 2013, Derek Atkins wrote: > Paul, > > On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 00:32 -0700, Paul Wouters wrote: > > On 07/29/2013 11:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > > > On 07/29/2013 06:48 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > >> On 07/29/2013 05:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > >> > > >> Fedora people hit by this bug, please try out the kernel at: > > >> > > >> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5583914 > > > > > > Those rpms got deleted already, please see: > > > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5659623 > > I just tried this kernel for x86_64 but it did not fix the problem. > > I did do a little more debugging. When I arrived this morning I could > not reproduce the problem from the EMU/IPSECME meeting in Shoeneburg > using any kernel. However, when I moved from there towards the main > area and did an "iwlist wlan0 scan" then I succeeded in getting the bug > to show (which implies, to me, that it's possibly due to a full scan and > hearing the Potsdam APs). The stack trace is below. > > In a related note, using this test kernel from the main lobby area I was > hearing too many APs, and NM started spewing a bunch of notices about > that: > > Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: (wlan0): supplicant > interface state: disconnected -> scanning > Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: (wlan0): supplicant > interface state: scanning -> disconnected > Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: (wlan0): supplicant > interface state: disconnected -> scanning > Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: (wlan0): supplicant > interface state: scanning -> disconnected > Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: (wlan0): supplicant > interface state: disconnected -> scanning > > > > > > > > > Grumble. I need F17. I plan on skipping 18 and go to 19... > > > > the kernel rpm will probably work on both? :) > > It "worked" on F18, although it did not solve the bug. Again, turning > off NM and running ifup manually works around the problem. > > > Paul > > -derek > > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377194] ------------[ cut here > ]------------ > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377201] WARNING: at > net/mac80211/mlme.c:366 ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x23f/0x370 > [mac80211]() > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377201] Modules linked in: ppdev > parport_pc parport fuse vsock ebtable_nat be2iscsi ebtables > iscsi_boot_sysfs bnx2i cnic uio cxgb4i cxgb4 cxgb3i cxgb3 mdio libcxgbi > ipt_MASQUERADE ib_iser iptable_nat nf_nat_ipv4 nf_nat xt_CHECKSUM > iptable_mangle bridge rdma_cm lockd sunrpc ib_addr iw_cm ib_cm ib_sa > rfcomm stp llc bnep ib_mad ib_core ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv4 > nf_conntrack_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv4 iscsi_tcp nf_defrag_ipv6 libiscsi_tcp > xt_conntrack nf_conntrack ip6table_filter libiscsi ip6_tables > scsi_transport_iscsi snd_hda_codec_conexant snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec > snd_hwdep snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_pcm arc4 uvcvideo iwldvm mac80211 > btusb videobuf2_vmalloc bluetooth videobuf2_memops e1000e videobuf2_core > iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support videodev media snd_page_alloc snd_timer > mperf coretemp iwlwifi cfg80211 lpc_ich mfd_core i2c_i801 ptp pps_core > thinkpad_acpi snd microcode soundcore rfkill vhost_net tun macvtap > macvlan binfmt_misc kvm_intel kvm uinput dm_crypt i915 crc32_pclmul > crc32c_intel ghash_clmulni_intel i2c_algo_bit drm_kms_helper sdhci_pci > firewire_ohci drm sdhci firewire_core mmc_core crc_itu_t i2c_core wmi > video > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377230] CPU: 1 PID: 109 Comm: > kworker/u16:3 Tainted: G W > 3.10.3-300.test_bz981445.fc19.x86_64 #1 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377231] Hardware name: LENOVO > 4239CTO/4239CTO, BIOS 8AET49WW (1.29 ) 07/11/2011 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377237] Workqueue: phy0 > ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211] > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377238] 0000000000000009 > ffff88020e389990 ffffffff81643216 ffff88020e3899c8 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377239] ffffffff8105c211 > ffff88020e389ad0 0000000000000810 ffff880210770800 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377241] 0000000000000000 > ffff880212421070 ffff88020e3899d8 ffffffff8105c2ea > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377242] Call Trace: > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377244] [] > dump_stack+0x19/0x1b > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377246] [] > warn_slowpath_common+0x61/0x80 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377248] [] > warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377255] [] > ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x23f/0x370 [mac80211] > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377262] [] > ieee80211_rx_mgmt_beacon+0x5a2/0x1280 [mac80211] > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377266] [] ? > iwl_poll_bit+0x52/0x90 [iwlwifi] > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377270] [] ? > __iwl_trans_pcie_set_bits_mask+0x4a/0x80 [iwlwifi] > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377274] [] ? > iwl_trans_pcie_tx+0x3f1/0x680 [iwlwifi] > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377282] [] > ieee80211_sta_rx_queued_mgmt+0x411/0x6c0 [mac80211] > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377284] [] ? > load_balance+0xe3/0x730 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377291] [] > ieee80211_iface_work+0x25c/0x360 [mac80211] > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377293] [] > process_one_work+0x175/0x420 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377294] [] > worker_thread+0x11b/0x3a0 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377296] [] ? > rescuer_thread+0x340/0x340 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377297] [] > kthread+0xc0/0xd0 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377299] [] ? > insert_kthread_work+0x40/0x40 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377301] [] > ret_from_fork+0x7c/0xb0 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377303] [] ? > insert_kthread_work+0x40/0x40 > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377304] ---[ end trace > 06475c7fd61d6e86 ]--- > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377304] ------------[ cut here > ]------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > -- Chris Elliott chelliot@pobox.com --089e0141aa9a7a9d8e04e2c55852 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All,

After closer inspection by=A0Derek and I=A0of the e= rror, when it happens, and the Linux source, we believe that it is likely t= hat turning on 802.11n on the 2.4Ghz radios is likely to trigger this bug.<= /div>

I've changed my mind partly because it's clear = now that it's while the client is processing beacons that the message i= s generated.

So, I have turned off 802.11n on the = 2.4Ghz radios so we can verify this. We may turn it back on one or more=A0A= Ps later if we get a fix or need to do further testing.

Please let me know if you still see the issue.

Chris.

On Tuesday, July 30, 2013, Dere= k Atkins wrote:
Paul,

On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 00:32 -0700, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On 07/29/2013 11:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >
> > On 07/29/2013 06:48 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> >> On 07/29/2013 05:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >>
> >> Fedora people hit by this bug, please try out the kernel at:<= br> > >>
> >> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?t= askID=3D5583914
>
>
> Those rpms got deleted already, please see:
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3D5= 659623

I just tried this kernel for x86_64 but it did not fix the problem.

I did do a little more debugging. =A0When I arrived this morning I could not reproduce the problem from the EMU/IPSECME meeting in Shoeneburg
using any kernel. =A0However, when I moved from there towards the main
area and did an "iwlist wlan0 scan" then I succeeded in getting t= he bug
to show (which implies, to me, that it's possibly due to a full scan an= d
hearing the Potsdam APs). =A0The stack trace is below.

In a related note, using this test kernel from the main lobby area I was hearing too many APs, and NM started spewing a bunch of notices about
that:

Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: <info> (wlan0): supplica= nt
interface state: disconnected -> scanning
Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: <info> (wlan0): supplica= nt
interface state: scanning -> disconnected
Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: <info> (wlan0): supplica= nt
interface state: disconnected -> scanning
Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: <info> (wlan0): supplica= nt
interface state: scanning -> disconnected
Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: <info> (wlan0): supplica= nt
interface state: disconnected -> scanning


>
>
> > Grumble. =A0I need F17. =A0I plan on skipping 18 and go to 19...<= br> >
> the kernel rpm will probably work on both? :)

It "worked" on F18, although it did not solve the bug. =A0Again, = turning
off NM and running ifup manually works around the problem.

> Paul

-derek

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> 87attendees mailing list
> 87attendees@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees

Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377194] ------------[ cut here
]------------
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377201] WARNING: at
net/mac80211/mlme.c:366 ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x23f/0x370
[mac80211]()
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377201] Modules linked in: ppdev parport_pc parport fuse vsock ebtable_nat be2iscsi ebtables
iscsi_boot_sysfs bnx2i cnic uio cxgb4i cxgb4 cxgb3i cxgb3 mdio libcxgbi
ipt_MASQUERADE ib_iser iptable_nat nf_nat_ipv4 nf_nat xt_CHECKSUM
iptable_mangle bridge rdma_cm lockd sunrpc ib_addr iw_cm ib_cm ib_sa
rfcomm stp llc bnep ib_mad ib_core ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv4
nf_conntrack_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv4 iscsi_tcp nf_defrag_ipv6 libiscsi_tcp
xt_conntrack nf_conntrack ip6table_filter libiscsi ip6_tables
scsi_transport_iscsi snd_hda_codec_conexant snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec
snd_hwdep snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_pcm arc4 uvcvideo iwldvm mac80211
btusb videobuf2_vmalloc bluetooth videobuf2_memops e1000e videobuf2_core iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support videodev media snd_page_alloc snd_timer
mperf coretemp iwlwifi cfg80211 lpc_ich mfd_core i2c_i801 ptp pps_core
thinkpad_acpi snd microcode soundcore rfkill vhost_net tun macvtap
macvlan binfmt_misc kvm_intel kvm uinput dm_crypt i915 crc32_pclmul
crc32c_intel ghash_clmulni_intel i2c_algo_bit drm_kms_helper sdhci_pci
firewire_ohci drm sdhci firewire_core mmc_core crc_itu_t i2c_core wmi
video
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377230] CPU: 1 PID: 109 Comm:
kworker/u16:3 Tainted: G =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0W
3.10.3-300.test_bz981445.fc19.x86_64 #1
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377231] Hardware name: LENOVO
4239CTO/4239CTO, BIOS 8AET49WW (1.29 ) 07/11/2011
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377237] Workqueue: phy0
ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377238] =A00000000000000009
ffff88020e389990 ffffffff81643216 ffff88020e3899c8
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377239] =A0ffffffff8105c211
ffff88020e389ad0 0000000000000810 ffff880210770800
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377241] =A00000000000000000
ffff880212421070 ffff88020e3899d8 ffffffff8105c2ea
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377242] Call Trace:
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377244] =A0[<ffffffff81643216>= ;]
dump_stack+0x19/0x1b
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377246] =A0[<ffffffff8105c211>= ;]
warn_slowpath_common+0x61/0x80
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377248] =A0[<ffffffff8105c2ea>= ;]
warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377255] =A0[<ffffffffa04a241f>= ;]
ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x23f/0x370 [mac80211]
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377262] =A0[<ffffffffa04a5582>= ;]
ieee80211_rx_mgmt_beacon+0x5a2/0x1280 [mac80211]
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377266] =A0[<ffffffffa0351052>= ;] ?
iwl_poll_bit+0x52/0x90 [iwlwifi]
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377270] =A0[<ffffffffa035bcaa>= ;] ?
__iwl_trans_pcie_set_bits_mask+0x4a/0x80 [iwlwifi]
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377274] =A0[<ffffffffa035b6b1>= ;] ?
iwl_trans_pcie_tx+0x3f1/0x680 [iwlwifi]
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377282] =A0[<ffffffffa04a6f31>= ;]
ieee80211_sta_rx_queued_mgmt+0x411/0x6c0 [mac80211]
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377284] =A0[<ffffffff8109a253>= ;] ?
load_balance+0xe3/0x730
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377291] =A0[<ffffffffa047980c>= ;]
ieee80211_iface_work+0x25c/0x360 [mac80211]
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377293] =A0[<ffffffff81079b95>= ;]
process_one_work+0x175/0x420
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377294] =A0[<ffffffff8107a7ab>= ;]
worker_thread+0x11b/0x3a0
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377296] =A0[<ffffffff8107a690>= ;] ?
rescuer_thread+0x340/0x340
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377297] =A0[<ffffffff81080b00>= ;]
kthread+0xc0/0xd0
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377299] =A0[<ffffffff81080a40>= ;] ?
insert_kthread_work+0x40/0x40
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377301] =A0[<ffffffff8165176c>= ;]
ret_from_fork+0x7c/0xb0
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377303] =A0[<ffffffff81080a40>= ;] ?
insert_kthread_work+0x40/0x40
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377304] ---[ end trace
06475c7fd61d6e86 ]---
Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377304] ------------[ cut here
]------------

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Chris Elliott
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--089e0141aa9a7a9d8e04e2c55852-- From ancaz@cisco.com Tue Jul 30 23:35:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1734E21F9F9D for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:35:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z9j0D6QBFJuZ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.86.74]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7856721F9F6F for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:35:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=78; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1375252549; x=1376462149; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:in-reply-to:content-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=Z/PMFkriyWWVJh2W6iHZ6d8ZNCe9UoAbyTD+K1p/erQ=; b=L8ouv5Ri7W9MJiUoxnMX3iGxV+pSZYr/HGQI+xlQIC3aofmgJPcTFyZN zqBvWwy6gEkNeUf8cQsh6alNrYZhALcYI9RHQi4j67OmrCDG0lSjHvGIp x5sMec0lI+8sd5bucwPutr6vZKDrhtPXnorNWLRuGxgfk4Zy+i8kynhFq c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhMFAKyv+FGtJV2d/2dsb2JhbABbgwaBBb4bgRgWdIImAQQ6UQEqFEIPFgIEG4gImCmgSY9NOIMYcQOpK4MUgio X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,785,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="241653775" Received: from rcdn-core-6.cisco.com ([173.37.93.157]) by rcdn-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 06:35:44 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x10.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x10.cisco.com [173.37.183.84]) by rcdn-core-6.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6V6ZiIP022411 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:35:44 GMT Received: from xmb-aln-x12.cisco.com ([169.254.7.26]) by xhc-rcd-x10.cisco.com ([173.37.183.84]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 01:35:44 -0500 From: "Anca Zamfir (ancaz)" To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Lost iPhone Thread-Index: AQHOjbgumM7xflaOL0KFh/TBN/69fg== Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:35:44 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001701ce8d72$dadb8210$90928630$@rozanak.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.2.3.120616 x-originating-ip: [10.61.98.209] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <75982898BCE42B42872FD7C673679ED7@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [87attendees] Lost iPhone X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:35:55 -0000 It has a broken screen. Please let me know if you found one. thanks, -anca From alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com Tue Jul 30 23:45:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A658021F9CF2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:45:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.136 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.136 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.113, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZyUuBBbz7tQg for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B731821F9CE9 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 23:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id r6V6jPJ3020931 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:45:25 +0200 Received: from muguet1.intra.cea.fr (muguet1.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.6]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6V6jP34017106; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:45:25 +0200 (envelope-from alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([132.166.86.7]) by muguet1.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id r6V6ioeU024696; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:45:24 +0200 Message-ID: <51F8B262.9030702@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:44:50 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Gellens References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> <51F7DCAF.7020905@internet2.edu> <51F7E3E0.6010101@gmail.com> <1375200985.5686.35.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Derek Atkins Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:45:35 -0000 Le 30/07/2013 22:18, Randall Gellens a écrit : [...] > The "debate" here is mystifying, since the topic isn't complicated > (either the IETF arranges breakfast or negotiates a rate at the hotel > that includes it). But in the first case a larger number of people benefit of that breakfast, although all pay same IETF Registration fee. (to compensate for the breakfast frustration I picked _3_ reflector attacks! at the museum :-) Alex > No need to throw in stuff about U.S. hotels not having buffet > breakfasts. They do. They usually don't have much selection, > especially in the healthy/fresh category, but they do have a buffet. > > From lars@netapp.com Wed Jul 31 00:32:15 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD8E11E80AD for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 00:32:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.185 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.185 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.413, BAYES_00=-2.599, FUZZY_CPILL=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 69N9QNyNzorr for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 00:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx12.netapp.com (mx12.netapp.com [216.240.18.77]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7C121E804C for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 00:32:11 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,785,1367996400"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="77393999" Received: from vmwexceht02-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.76.240]) by mx12-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 00:32:11 -0700 Received: from SACEXCMBX01-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([169.254.2.240]) by vmwexceht02-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.106.76.240]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 00:32:10 -0700 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Restaurant recs: Lutter & Wegner, Nu Eat Thread-Index: AQHOjcAQ0p5ycvpihE2kPRCOHDv8Gw== Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:32:09 +0000 Message-ID: <2BFBCA12-6B9E-43FE-9D58-3E21CEFDA0A8@netapp.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.104.60.118] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FA9F759A-EBE6-48D1-BFE4-5DB97130E8C6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [87attendees] Restaurant recs: Lutter & Wegner, Nu Eat X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:32:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_FA9F759A-EBE6-48D1-BFE4-5DB97130E8C6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Lutter & Wegner (http://www.restaurantlutterundwegner.de/). Good = German/Austrian food, excellent service. Small but sufficient wine list. = There are several locations, we went to the original one = (Schl=FCterstrasse 55), which has been around since 1811. Works for = groups (we were ten), they have inside & outside seating. English menus = (but without the daily specials). Nu Eat (http://www.nu-eat.de/) is actually right next door to Lutter & = Wegner. Pretty good Asian fusion, OK wine, does cocktails & has a full = bar. Young crowd. --Apple-Mail=_FA9F759A-EBE6-48D1-BFE4-5DB97130E8C6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQCVAwUBUfi9e9ZcnpRveo1xAQJ3PQQAsu0Pth9w6j2J/5mK7qTAS9BfqU2vLG6R 9aTmLxfHfcV0ZHB7ZLgK2MTFtD5yb4OPbkBq2zFqxEByr8TM+1ZFq4rjJFOE3cdy dZ3N3Xb/YQTZ6rxkzOjrX7b2RxBMHeF5Udr+G4UrTiX7OgBpWzOcm0CEzb7kQq9b xaAVLlbruU4= =OrWD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_FA9F759A-EBE6-48D1-BFE4-5DB97130E8C6-- From pthubert@cisco.com Wed Jul 31 01:11:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D0621E80BE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 01:11:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.521 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iQuZfX6OVCVP for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 01:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com [173.37.86.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC6B21F9E94 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 01:11:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=113; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1375258267; x=1376467867; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id: content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=bCU4KwncBz1J7UFsvP9QcNnTGq6i85T/IiXe8s2OTkg=; b=cGOuiz8p+XHHt9MvPhitEGH24nqw0sOsUolWb02dkaZjgzVSi+bzxVi0 AYwy6fSrAvcBXA0aZWjZsu0wfmgw2PC1fxVK7eFKrPsNu7ZH/euD8Mv7W gdPxGGeFqdCR64zZKAL/EcYAZTATywvjV2QXpgZrHL8cdGL9HigxF/qva Q=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhMFAH3F+FGtJXG//2dsb2JhbABbgwaBBb4cgRgWdIImAQQ6UQEqFEImAQQbiAiYCqBLj02DUHEDqSuDFIIq X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,785,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="241657388" Received: from rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com ([173.37.113.191]) by rcdn-iport-8.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 08:11:07 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com [173.37.183.78]) by rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6V8B6HT029047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:11:06 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x01.cisco.com ([169.254.1.104]) by xhc-rcd-x04.cisco.com ([fe80::200:5efe:173.37.183.34%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:11:06 -0500 From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Found (French) lady sunglasses at baguetterie outside Thread-Index: Ac6NxVbPyNZxjbMvSUydvGuMX/o24g== Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:11:06 +0000 Deferred-Delivery: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:10:00 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.61.170.13] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [87attendees] Found (French) lady sunglasses at baguetterie outside X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:11:33 -0000 The tenant told me it came from one of 'us', speaking French. I brought them to IETF registration... Pascal From paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Wed Jul 31 02:33:34 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6924B21F9F5B for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:33:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zk0Wfg9VBBs1 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hoffman.proper.com (IPv6.Hoffman.Proper.COM [IPv6:2605:8e00:100:41::81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAD421F9F21 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-64c3.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-64c3.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.100.195]) (authenticated bits=0) by hoffman.proper.com (8.14.7/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6V9XM9D049200 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:33:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from paul.hoffman@vpnc.org) From: Paul Hoffman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:33:21 +0200 To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Subject: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:33:34 -0000 Dropping leading zeros in octets? Really? From R.Jesske@telekom.de Wed Jul 31 02:42:08 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 871C721F9263 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:42:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.376 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.376 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.127, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BTvpzwDY942X for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcmail33.telekom.de (tcmail33.telekom.de [80.149.113.247]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08D4021F9A29 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from he113472.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.134.93.130]) by tcmail31.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 31 Jul 2013 11:40:23 +0200 Received: from HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.134.93.17]) by HE113472.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([::1]) with mapi; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:40:23 +0200 From: To: , <87attendees@ietf.org> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:40:22 +0200 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? Thread-Index: Ac6N0V1IB8k8UkojQlaefCe/NmLI8AAAFEsQ Message-ID: <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D183BA5FCFC@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:42:08 -0000 Nowhere it is stated that this is a octet! And look at the shirt there is lower case 2 at the end. So that is the mathematical binary system. That does not need octets ;-) -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] Im = Auftrag von Paul Hoffman Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2013 11:33 An: 87attendees@ietf.org Betreff: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? Dropping leading zeros in octets? Really? _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From rg+ietf@qti.qualcomm.com Wed Jul 31 02:51:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B0121F9BCA for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:51:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Quarantine-ID: <0Mb7IJGWjNU8> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0Mb7IJGWjNU8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31BC421F9343 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:50:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1375264253; x=1406800253; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:to:from:subject: cc; bh=/D5riZ2JBW6tmEygevm+a4i8cgCf8mucUiu7xlPITmQ=; b=VwBCtEEkIJNC5QqxWKr4fj3UfZTLMcuENsmO+ludjiiaWKj9g4cWDGcs h14P6K60V0Estfa15zrq8XEi6NidkdL0fXBbfqaP4dyk0w0xRnu2XK52/ NBict64c6cmAZXtIAoQaw89rzfykQ+gk8pXiR5H8HST8cRmcEAcTovp5F A=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,786,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="65755266" Received: from ironmsg03-r.qualcomm.com ([172.30.46.17]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 02:50:52 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,786,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="523063465" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.35.200.44]) ([10.64.198.50]) by Ironmsg03-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 02:50:51 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <51F8B262.9030702@gmail.com> References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> <51F7DCAF.7020905@internet2.edu> <51F7E3E0.6010101@gmail.com> <1375200985.5686.35.camel@localhost> <51F8B262.9030702@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 02:46:31 -0700 To: Alexandru Petrescu From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Derek Atkins Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:51:01 -0000 At 8:44 AM +0200 7/31/13, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > But in the first case a larger number of people benefit of that > breakfast A *potentially* larger number of people are *eligible* to benefit, but the benefit to each is considerably less, hence fewer people bother. (Assuming the hotel breakfast has a greater diversity of offerings to meet various needs than the IETF breakfast.) -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to believe. --Laurence J. 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p3mr13360859lah.32.1375265947556; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:19:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chelliot@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.3.44 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:18:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1375265249.5862.0.camel@localhost> References: <76F05F8F-EBE8-4C93-AA94-4AA104DC8FF9@mocana.com> <51F68FE7.3010404@labs.htt-consult.com> <51F69CDE.3070900@redhat.com> <51F6E543.7070609@labs.htt-consult.com> <51F76C00.70205@redhat.com> <1375179648.5686.5.camel@localhost> <1375265249.5862.0.camel@localhost> From: Chris Elliott Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:18:47 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fUGPHjp8Q84ep27o55-FJDuBWRA Message-ID: To: Derek Atkins Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0160a454469f4d04e2cc0ebe Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Robert Moskowitz , Paul Wouters Subject: Re: [87attendees] Anyone using Fedora 18 on the IETF wifi? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: chelliot@pobox.com List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:19:19 -0000 --089e0160a454469f4d04e2cc0ebe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 OK--We did modify the 5Ghz radio to meet german wifi requirements. Come by the NOC when you have a chance and we'll find a way to isolate ourselves sufficiently to determine if this change (which is on every IETF AP here) is the issue. Chris. On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Derek Atkins wrote: > Alas this didn't solve the problem for me. When I came in to Tiergarten > this morning and turned on NM the issue resurrected itself. :( > > -derek > > On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 19:18 -0700, Chris Elliott wrote: > > All, > > > > > > After closer inspection by Derek and I of the error, when it happens, > > and the Linux source, we believe that it is likely that turning on > > 802.11n on the 2.4Ghz radios is likely to trigger this bug. > > > > > > I've changed my mind partly because it's clear now that it's while the > > client is processing beacons that the message is generated. > > > > > > So, I have turned off 802.11n on the 2.4Ghz radios so we can verify > > this. We may turn it back on one or more APs later if we get a fix or > > need to do further testing. > > > > > > Please let me know if you still see the issue. > > > > > > Chris. > > > > On Tuesday, July 30, 2013, Derek Atkins wrote: > > Paul, > > > > On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 00:32 -0700, Paul Wouters wrote: > > > On 07/29/2013 11:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > > > > > On 07/29/2013 06:48 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > > >> On 07/29/2013 05:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Fedora people hit by this bug, please try out the kernel > > at: > > > >> > > > >> > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5583914 > > > > > > > > > Those rpms got deleted already, please see: > > > > > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5659623 > > > > I just tried this kernel for x86_64 but it did not fix the > > problem. > > > > I did do a little more debugging. When I arrived this morning > > I could > > not reproduce the problem from the EMU/IPSECME meeting in > > Shoeneburg > > using any kernel. However, when I moved from there towards > > the main > > area and did an "iwlist wlan0 scan" then I succeeded in > > getting the bug > > to show (which implies, to me, that it's possibly due to a > > full scan and > > hearing the Potsdam APs). The stack trace is below. > > > > In a related note, using this test kernel from the main lobby > > area I was > > hearing too many APs, and NM started spewing a bunch of > > notices about > > that: > > > > Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: (wlan0): > > supplicant > > interface state: disconnected -> scanning > > Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: (wlan0): > > supplicant > > interface state: scanning -> disconnected > > Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: (wlan0): > > supplicant > > interface state: disconnected -> scanning > > Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: (wlan0): > > supplicant > > interface state: scanning -> disconnected > > Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: (wlan0): > > supplicant > > interface state: disconnected -> scanning > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grumble. I need F17. I plan on skipping 18 and go to > > 19... > > > > > > the kernel rpm will probably work on both? :) > > > > It "worked" on F18, although it did not solve the bug. Again, > > turning > > off NM and running ifup manually works around the problem. > > > > > Paul > > > > -derek > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > 87attendees mailing list > > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377194] > > ------------[ cut here > > ]------------ > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377201] WARNING: at > > net/mac80211/mlme.c:366 ieee80211_determine_chantype > > +0x23f/0x370 > > [mac80211]() > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377201] Modules linked > > in: ppdev > > parport_pc parport fuse vsock ebtable_nat be2iscsi ebtables > > iscsi_boot_sysfs bnx2i cnic uio cxgb4i cxgb4 cxgb3i cxgb3 mdio > > libcxgbi > > ipt_MASQUERADE ib_iser iptable_nat nf_nat_ipv4 nf_nat > > xt_CHECKSUM > > iptable_mangle bridge rdma_cm lockd sunrpc ib_addr iw_cm ib_cm > > ib_sa > > rfcomm stp llc bnep ib_mad ib_core ip6t_REJECT > > nf_conntrack_ipv4 > > nf_conntrack_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv4 iscsi_tcp nf_defrag_ipv6 > > libiscsi_tcp > > xt_conntrack nf_conntrack ip6table_filter libiscsi ip6_tables > > scsi_transport_iscsi snd_hda_codec_conexant snd_hda_intel > > snd_hda_codec > > snd_hwdep snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_pcm arc4 uvcvideo iwldvm > > mac80211 > > btusb videobuf2_vmalloc bluetooth videobuf2_memops e1000e > > videobuf2_core > > iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support videodev media snd_page_alloc > > snd_timer > > mperf coretemp iwlwifi cfg80211 lpc_ich mfd_core i2c_i801 ptp > > pps_core > > thinkpad_acpi snd microcode soundcore rfkill vhost_net tun > > macvtap > > macvlan binfmt_misc kvm_intel kvm uinput dm_crypt i915 > > crc32_pclmul > > crc32c_intel ghash_clmulni_intel i2c_algo_bit drm_kms_helper > > sdhci_pci > > firewire_ohci drm sdhci firewire_core mmc_core crc_itu_t > > i2c_core wmi > > video > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377230] CPU: 1 PID: 109 > > Comm: > > kworker/u16:3 Tainted: G W > > 3.10.3-300.test_bz981445.fc19.x86_64 #1 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377231] Hardware name: > > LENOVO > > 4239CTO/4239CTO, BIOS 8AET49WW (1.29 ) 07/11/2011 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377237] Workqueue: phy0 > > ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211] > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377238] > > 0000000000000009 > > ffff88020e389990 ffffffff81643216 ffff88020e3899c8 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377239] > > ffffffff8105c211 > > ffff88020e389ad0 0000000000000810 ffff880210770800 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377241] > > 0000000000000000 > > ffff880212421070 ffff88020e3899d8 ffffffff8105c2ea > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377242] Call Trace: > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377244] > > [] > > dump_stack+0x19/0x1b > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377246] > > [] > > warn_slowpath_common+0x61/0x80 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377248] > > [] > > warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377255] > > [] > > ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x23f/0x370 [mac80211] > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377262] > > [] > > ieee80211_rx_mgmt_beacon+0x5a2/0x1280 [mac80211] > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377266] > > [] ? > > iwl_poll_bit+0x52/0x90 [iwlwifi] > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377270] > > [] ? > > __iwl_trans_pcie_set_bits_mask+0x4a/0x80 [iwlwifi] > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377274] > > [] ? > > iwl_trans_pcie_tx+0x3f1/0x680 [iwlwifi] > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377282] > > [] > > ieee80211_sta_rx_queued_mgmt+0x411/0x6c0 [mac80211] > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377284] > > [] ? > > load_balance+0xe3/0x730 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377291] > > [] > > ieee80211_iface_work+0x25c/0x360 [mac80211] > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377293] > > [] > > process_one_work+0x175/0x420 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377294] > > [] > > worker_thread+0x11b/0x3a0 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377296] > > [] ? > > rescuer_thread+0x340/0x340 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377297] > > [] > > kthread+0xc0/0xd0 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377299] > > [] ? > > insert_kthread_work+0x40/0x40 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377301] > > [] > > ret_from_fork+0x7c/0xb0 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377303] > > [] ? > > insert_kthread_work+0x40/0x40 > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377304] ---[ end trace > > 06475c7fd61d6e86 ]--- > > Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ 514.377304] > > ------------[ cut here > > ]------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > > > -- > > Chris Elliott > > chelliot@pobox.com > > > > -- Chris Elliott chelliot@pobox.com --089e0160a454469f4d04e2cc0ebe Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK--We did modify the 5Ghz radio to meet german wifi requi= rements. Come by the NOC when you have a chance and we'll find a way to= isolate ourselves sufficiently to determine if this change (which is on ev= ery IETF AP here) is the issue.

Chris.


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Derek Atkins <DAtki= ns@mocana.com> wrote:
Alas this didn't solve the problem for m= e. =A0When I came in to Tiergarten
this morning and turned on NM the issue resurrected itself. =A0:(

-derek

On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 19:18 -0700, Chris Elliott wrote:
> All,
>
>
> After closer inspection by Derek and I of the error, when it happens,<= br> > and the Linux source, we believe that it is likely that turning on
> 802.11n on the 2.4Ghz radios is likely to trigger this bug.
>
>
> I've changed my mind partly because it's clear now that it'= ;s while the
> client is processing beacons that the message is generated.
>
>
> So, I have turned off 802.11n on the 2.4Ghz radios so we can verify > this. We may turn it back on one or more APs later if we get a fix or<= br> > need to do further testing.
>
>
> Please let me know if you still see the issue.
>
>
> Chris.
>
> On Tuesday, July 30, 2013, Derek Atkins wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Paul,
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 On Tue, 2013-07-30 at 00:32 -0700, Paul Wouters wrote:=
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > On 07/29/2013 11:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > >
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > > On 07/29/2013 06:48 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:<= br> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > >> On 07/29/2013 05:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz= wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > >>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > >> Fedora people hit by this bug, please tr= y out the kernel
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 at:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > >>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > >>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tas= kinfo?taskID=3D5583914
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > Those rpms got deleted already, please see:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koj= i/taskinfo?taskID=3D5659623
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I just tried this kernel for x86_64 but it did not fix= the
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 problem.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I did do a little more debugging. =A0When I arrived th= is morning
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I could
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 not reproduce the problem from the EMU/IPSECME meeting= in
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Shoeneburg
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 using any kernel. =A0However, when I moved from there = towards
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 the main
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 area and did an "iwlist wlan0 scan" then I s= ucceeded in
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 getting the bug
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to show (which implies, to me, that it's possibly = due to a
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 full scan and
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hearing the Potsdam APs). =A0The stack trace is below.=
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 In a related note, using this test kernel from the mai= n lobby
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 area I was
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hearing too many APs, and NM started spewing a bunch o= f
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 notices about
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 that:
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: <info&= gt; (wlan0):
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 supplicant
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 interface state: disconnected -> scanning
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: <info&= gt; (wlan0):
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 supplicant
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 interface state: scanning -> disconnected
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: <info&= gt; (wlan0):
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 supplicant
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 interface state: disconnected -> scanning
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: <info&= gt; (wlan0):
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 supplicant
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 interface state: scanning -> disconnected
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:16:47 mocana NetworkManager[1506]: <info&= gt; (wlan0):
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 supplicant
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 interface state: disconnected -> scanning
>
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > > Grumble. =A0I need F17. =A0I plan on skippin= g 18 and go to
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 19...
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 >
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > the kernel rpm will probably work on both? :)
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 It "worked" on F18, although it did not solv= e the bug. =A0Again,
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 turning
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 off NM and running ifup manually works around the prob= lem.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > Paul
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -derek
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > _______________________________________________ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > 87attendees mailing list
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > 87attende= es@ietf.org
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87atte= ndees
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377194]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ------------[ cut here
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ]------------
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377201] WARNIN= G: at
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 net/mac80211/mlme.c:366 ieee80211_determine_chantype > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 +0x23f/0x370
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 [mac80211]()
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377201] Module= s linked
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 in: ppdev
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 parport_pc parport fuse vsock ebtable_nat be2iscsi ebt= ables
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 iscsi_boot_sysfs bnx2i cnic uio cxgb4i cxgb4 cxgb3i cx= gb3 mdio
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 libcxgbi
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ipt_MASQUERADE ib_iser iptable_nat nf_nat_ipv4 nf_nat<= br> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 xt_CHECKSUM
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 iptable_mangle bridge rdma_cm lockd sunrpc ib_addr iw_= cm ib_cm
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ib_sa
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 rfcomm stp llc bnep ib_mad ib_core ip6t_REJECT
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 nf_conntrack_ipv4
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 nf_conntrack_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv4 iscsi_tcp nf_defrag_i= pv6
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 libiscsi_tcp
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 xt_conntrack nf_conntrack ip6table_filter libiscsi ip6= _tables
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 scsi_transport_iscsi snd_hda_codec_conexant snd_hda_in= tel
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 snd_hda_codec
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 snd_hwdep snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_pcm arc4 uvcvideo= iwldvm
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 mac80211
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 btusb videobuf2_vmalloc bluetooth videobuf2_memops e10= 00e
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 videobuf2_core
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support videodev media snd_page_a= lloc
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 snd_timer
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 mperf coretemp iwlwifi cfg80211 lpc_ich mfd_core i2c_i= 801 ptp
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 pps_core
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 thinkpad_acpi snd microcode soundcore rfkill vhost_net= tun
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 macvtap
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 macvlan binfmt_misc kvm_intel kvm uinput dm_crypt i915=
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 crc32_pclmul
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 crc32c_intel ghash_clmulni_intel i2c_algo_bit drm_kms_= helper
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 sdhci_pci
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 firewire_ohci drm sdhci firewire_core mmc_core crc_itu= _t
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 i2c_core wmi
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 video
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377230] CPU: 1= PID: 109
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Comm:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 kworker/u16:3 Tainted: G =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0W
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 3.10.3-300.test_bz981445.fc19.x86_64 #1
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377231] Hardwa= re name:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 LENOVO
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4239CTO/4239CTO, BIOS 8AET49WW (1.29 ) 07/11/2011
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377237] Workqu= eue: phy0
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ieee80211_iface_work [mac80211]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377238]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00000000000000009
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ffff88020e389990 ffffffff81643216 ffff88020e3899c8
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377239]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ffffffff8105c211
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ffff88020e389ad0 0000000000000810 ffff880210770800
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377241]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A00000000000000000
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ffff880212421070 ffff88020e3899d8 ffffffff8105c2ea
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377242] Call T= race:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377244]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffff81643216>]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 dump_stack+0x19/0x1b
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377246]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffff8105c211>]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 warn_slowpath_common+0x61/0x80
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377248]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffff8105c2ea>]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 warn_slowpath_null+0x1a/0x20
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377255]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffffa04a241f>]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ieee80211_determine_chantype+0x23f/0x370 [mac80211] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377262]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffffa04a5582>]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ieee80211_rx_mgmt_beacon+0x5a2/0x1280 [mac80211]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377266]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffffa0351052>] ?
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 iwl_poll_bit+0x52/0x90 [iwlwifi]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377270]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffffa035bcaa>] ?
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 __iwl_trans_pcie_set_bits_mask+0x4a/0x80 [iwlwifi]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377274]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffffa035b6b1>] ?
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 iwl_trans_pcie_tx+0x3f1/0x680 [iwlwifi]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377282]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffffa04a6f31>]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ieee80211_sta_rx_queued_mgmt+0x411/0x6c0 [mac80211] > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377284]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffff8109a253>] ?
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 load_balance+0xe3/0x730
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377291]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffffa047980c>]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ieee80211_iface_work+0x25c/0x360 [mac80211]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377293]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffff81079b95>]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 process_one_work+0x175/0x420
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377294]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffff8107a7ab>]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 worker_thread+0x11b/0x3a0
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377296]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffff8107a690>] ?
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 rescuer_thread+0x340/0x340
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377297]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffff81080b00>]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 kthread+0xc0/0xd0
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377299]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffff81080a40>] ?
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 insert_kthread_work+0x40/0x40
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377301]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffff8165176c>]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ret_from_fork+0x7c/0xb0
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377303]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0[<ffffffff81080a40>] ?
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 insert_kthread_work+0x40/0x40
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377304] ---[ e= nd trace
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 06475c7fd61d6e86 ]---
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Jul 30 05:17:55 mocana kernel: [ =A0514.377304]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ------------[ cut here
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ]------------
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 _______________________________________________
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--089e0160a454469f4d04e2cc0ebe-- From randy@psg.com Wed Jul 31 03:39:36 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBEE511E80EC for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:39:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.523 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.523 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.076, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KWR7uq-94IKj for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.psg.com (ran.psg.com [198.180.150.18]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BCA11E8171 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ryuu.psg.com.psg.com) by ran.psg.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1V4ToU-0001jk-B2 for 87attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:39:26 +0000 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:39:25 +0200 Message-ID: From: Randy Bush To: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/22.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [87attendees] missing mail X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:39:37 -0000 i suspect this list is having problems. i have not seen the mandatory threads about finding atms, the terrors of trains, etc. how can i cut a ticket in the noc? randy From chelliot@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 03:41:30 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6464321F9CC0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:41:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.891 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.891 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.086, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2WJXjdT53fsI for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x22c.google.com (mail-la0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22c]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BDB621F9D96 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fo12so380315lab.17 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:41:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=yWEKcTOrlZniuOZnYlMM6XKTxr/Bp6Env4B2jYZk/UE=; b=TlpQpQUxUQqZQjbdwIsVIcoLQUdoACATtTBIWpI0GEpuiRGJBVpvd3ldEhZ23sTrkc ACwsD4hfkvvbDqyUA0S2DJJXISqlD7xmWczj6x4EHkbyU18ZOhxQAvy//3s+IUaOPN5C LZK+PdCe3aOrE1aQuKtkk8LEK2Q+AastxYEVAC1xZjuq/VjyATMyP/zYkoGmSzAD/6/J 6WE8WY608cv/X9EjJqYzsXDOq+dLNfZumxwz2D2v1fSPsCRZ2iWbHGAKM6HhCaeR6cxf oZWbOokjdwYCRkhyYavT9R186U87b7JLf/qUXLm64zNnP+syphwm0YY5LAtPABAy8j4d RUxA== X-Received: by 10.112.74.47 with SMTP id q15mr29737201lbv.75.1375267285064; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:41:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chelliot@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.3.44 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:41:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Elliott Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:41:05 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xVAKWkRyBbo-_OOKQPUIf-6MV88 Message-ID: To: Randy Bush Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae94735c1ff62e104e2cc5d9c Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] missing mail X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: chelliot@pobox.com List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:41:30 -0000 --14dae94735c1ff62e104e2cc5d9c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Unsubscribe! 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--14dae94735c1ff62e104e2cc5d9c-- From superuser@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 03:57:42 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A547221F93BF for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:57:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.46 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.46 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.139, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5DXNdN+at+Hg for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x22e.google.com (mail-we0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5632521F95DC for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id q54so464523wes.33 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:57:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=TGZM46nV+4KoaNJAVwrdriJOyO+8fJQQgnc7nD7AUHM=; b=umruGf/OYfBvWlu1zdUJaiH0FVgPa8pzDd4kjno0Rta5VcTzyciHVKAXyKTtnd4YEb irBieczl9QH/Wi16sHXRTS4dBG773qeIf0g3oYbNBpCFZU6QK89qxY5offtVedSWBozZ pde+OnG+2m5VgIEHFoSkDItgr8WFdmDSE1kz3Y6R2bl929biv+uoN+cZZrOsSYaW+X6G eqcMvoZtMes6oSJDLGA1RAM3WsFYRHRYcl6q5dnfYi+z8po/mF3/HvYy7AJzWWtsLZcj oezZvoLmemDXdNefdH+2xtQ+woA4quzqKz2LyH7v1WP5P7aG/mFB+Ner96hI0+Z2dw9i jAKQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.48.116 with SMTP id k20mr50499424wjn.23.1375268228495; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.125.36 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 03:57:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:57:08 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: Alexandru Petrescu Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba975e63b00f504e2cc9606 Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:57:42 -0000 --047d7ba975e63b00f504e2cc9606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Picking on this message only because it was the first one: On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Alexandru Petrescu < alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Will there be IETF breakfast in Berlin? > > Alex > > Ah, awesome. I was wondering where the requisite giant attendees list rathole thread had gone. Could someone please start the pickpocket thread? We're half way through the meeting now, and it's not going to start itself. -MSK --047d7ba975e63b00f504e2cc9606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Picking on this message only because it was the first one:=

On Sun, = Jul 28, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petres= cu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

Will there be IETF breakfast in Berlin?

Alex


Ah, awesome.=A0 I was wondering where the r= equisite giant attendees list rathole thread had gone.

Could someone please start the pickpocket thread?=A0 We= 're half way through the meeting now, and it's not going to start i= tself.

-MSK
<= /div> --047d7ba975e63b00f504e2cc9606-- From leifj@sunet.se Wed Jul 31 04:02:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 385E211E80E4 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:02:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sbf7nRazLlS2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from e-mailfilter02.sunet.se (e-mailfilter02.sunet.se [IPv6:2001:6b0:8:2::202]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E70B21F9B31 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.nordu.net (smtp1.nordu.net [IPv6:2001:948:4:6::32]) by e-mailfilter02.sunet.se (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r6VB1x1j024707 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:01:59 +0200 Received: from [130.129.9.66] (dhcp-9142.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.9.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.nordu.net (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r6VB1uOQ020785 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:01:59 GMT Message-ID: <51F8EEA3.5030704@sunet.se> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:01:55 +0200 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: outbound, nordu-net:default, base:default, @@RPTN) X-p0f-Info: os=unknown unknown, link=Ethernet or modem X-CanIt-Geo: ip=130.129.9.66; country=CZ; latitude=49.7500; longitude=15.5000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=49.7500,15.5000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outbound-nordu-net:outbound (inherits from outbound-nordu-net:default, nordu-net:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0aK6X1Xon - e2284c087a14 - 20130731 X-Antispam-Training-Forget: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6X1Xon&m=e2284c087a14&t=20130731&c=f X-Antispam-Training-Nonspam: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6X1Xon&m=e2284c087a14&t=20130731&c=n X-Antispam-Training-Spam: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6X1Xon&m=e2284c087a14&t=20130731&c=s X-CanIt-Archive-Cluster: PfMRe/vJWMiXwM2YIH5BVExnUnw X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) Subject: Re: [87attendees] missing mail X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:02:04 -0000 On 07/31/2013 12:39 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > i suspect this list is having problems. i have not seen the mandatory > threads about finding atms, the terrors of trains, etc. how can i cut > a ticket in the noc? > > me neither I don't know weather to be sad or happy From prvs=917b68c89=fmartin@linkedin.com Wed Jul 31 04:02:09 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3507611E8172 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:02:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.264 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.264 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oQS+3lJbo6EH for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from esv4-mav05.corp.linkedin.com (esv4-mav05.corp.linkedin.com [69.28.149.81]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D94A21F9B31 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:02:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linkedin.com; i=@linkedin.com; q=dns/txt; s=proddkim1024; t=1375268525; x=1406804525; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: mime-version; bh=eJ7tQvf6LUlqyyQtTL7couAB0iSVwXcUV/nZo7JBsHM=; b=cobTUNbvYREJtEEgPxbyjHoA4YrT6miahfLQU48rau28iK7VsJ1vwS2g Dup41bHozHSArMJHuuoiKfLbESjqCyxE8uCVa4nz3iMVV3W+ZQPhI9k3R kywSdbxXGKz/rHUKjkQn1bcHAuLd/ABS3/6fpMLGfl9nuFjxs0ukG556K U=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,786,1367996400"; d="scan'208,217";a="57116900" Received: from ESV4-MBX01.linkedin.biz ([fe80::d029:a1fa:62c4:2641]) by esv4-cas01.linkedin.biz ([172.18.46.140]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.011; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:01:46 -0700 From: Franck Martin To: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? Thread-Index: AQHOjdyzC1ifEfU3ok2anxEiL58R1Jl/FGOA Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:01:44 +0000 Message-ID: <77426B543150464AA3F30DF1A91365DE53C34AD0@ESV4-MBX01.linkedin.biz> References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.18.46.252] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_77426B543150464AA3F30DF1A91365DE53C34AD0ESV4MBX01linked_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:02:09 -0000 --_000_77426B543150464AA3F30DF1A91365DE53C34AD0ESV4MBX01linked_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Jul 31, 2013, at 12:57 PM, "Murray S. Kucherawy" > wrote: Picking on this message only because it was the first one: On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Alexandru Petrescu > wrote: Hello, Will there be IETF breakfast in Berlin? Alex Ah, awesome. I was wondering where the requisite giant attendees list rath= ole thread had gone. Could someone please start the pickpocket thread? We're half way through t= he meeting now, and it's not going to start itself. I'm sitting at the http session, and they lost their cookies, anyone seen t= hem? --_000_77426B543150464AA3F30DF1A91365DE53C34AD0ESV4MBX01linked_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Jul 31, 2013, at 12:57 PM, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
 wrote:

Picking on this message only because it was the first one:=

On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Alexandru Petr= escu <alexa= ndru.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

Will there be IETF breakfast in Berlin?

Alex


Ah, awesome.  I was wondering where the requisite giant attendees list= rathole thread had gone.

Could someone please start the pickpocket thread= ?  We're half way through the meeting now, and it's not going to start= itself.


I'm sitting at the http session, and they lost their cookies, anyone seen t= hem?

--_000_77426B543150464AA3F30DF1A91365DE53C34AD0ESV4MBX01linked_-- From tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Wed Jul 31 04:08:49 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9839621E80E0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:08:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TzG9Mgq7-81z for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66B4421E80B3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6VB8hmg003788 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:08:43 +0100 X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk r6VB8hmg003788 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=ecs.soton.ac.uk; s=201304; t=1375268923; bh=tsjcwLWP4OU+JkixeeGmxhxDWXQ=; h=Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:References:To; b=1JB3H4OmVY8CNbD0wn6H16TIMvFWY7k03C1VY5C3Qtpjg3F3OP4AeRT0H8DByTfzc wQjoqlIdQeaTaIS0S/p8obSTlyDM3g+V1+0Myl/tjT8ozzc3T6QRMhIQJiMbzWvjt0 SGq8E1QCIBhqo/TpcXrBX7iOZm+EjbN/vaykCwQ0= Received: from gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk ([2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:401]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102:250:56ff:fea0:68da]) envelope-from with ESMTP (valid=N/A) id p6UC8h0544553218ih ret-id none; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:08:43 +0100 Received: from dhcp-142f.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-142f.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.20.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6VB8cHu008341 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:08:39 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Tim Chown In-Reply-To: <51F8EEA3.5030704@sunet.se> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:08:38 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: References: <51F8EEA3.5030704@sunet.se> <1D8584A9-9F8E-4A6E-A8F1-11A2C052EA03@ecs.soton.ac.uk> To: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-smtpf-Report: sid=p6UC8h054455321800; tid=p6UC8h0544553218ih; client=relay,forged,no_ptr,ipv6; mail=; rcpt=; nrcpt=1:0; fails=0 X-ECS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ECS-MailScanner-ID: r6VB8hmg003788 X-ECS-MailScanner-From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Subject: Re: [87attendees] missing mail X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:08:50 -0000 On 31 Jul 2013, at 12:01, Leif Johansson wrote: > On 07/31/2013 12:39 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> i suspect this list is having problems. i have not seen the mandatory >> threads about finding atms, the terrors of trains, etc. how can i cut >> a ticket in the noc? >> > me neither > > I don't know weather to be sad or happy Hmmm. Are we allowed to post and say how good we think the venue has been? Tim From tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Wed Jul 31 04:12:01 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F5C21F92B7 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:12:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a8Llb2JpCvn9 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [IPv6:2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1679921F9017 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:11:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6VBBqjK004863 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:11:52 +0100 X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk r6VBBqjK004863 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=simple/simple; d=ecs.soton.ac.uk; s=201304; t=1375269113; bh=qppw4whWD2dbB4jL+WZ8UJEgSbQ=; h=Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:References:To; b=kl46yyb8NU9gMXJpHvIHAapfYP1KPTvkZEVmp8hr7beOWiZmpt+ndTTUabe+lIO5U nTYd4LLkIP1hMm2rdn306BbmAp9m0pO7Rza8TILwG6qh7eWnrlIdqtbl/BNm/EUblZ ZInX3AkBwlRpHDye0a5YRfyQccbuGEHFfzBqKPuo= Received: from gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102::25d]) by falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk (falcon.ecs.soton.ac.uk [2001:630:d0:f102::25e]) envelope-from with ESMTP (valid=N/A) id p6UCBq0544553287l3 ret-id none; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:11:53 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::16:85ea:d8bd:b5ed:14d2] ([IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:85ea:d8bd:b5ed:14d2]) (authenticated bits=0) by gander.ecs.soton.ac.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6VBBnNK009006 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:11:49 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Tim Chown In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:11:49 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <900A1E2059ADB149B905E3C8FA0046A62C77EDBC26@FHDP1LUMXC7V23.us.one.veri zon.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> <51F7DCAF.7020905@internet2.edu> <51F7E3E0.6010101@gmail.com> <1375200985.5686.35.camel@localhost> To: "87attendees@ietf.org attendees" <87attendees@ietf.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-ECS-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-smtpf-Report: sid=p6UCBq054455328700; tid=p6UCBq0544553287l3; client=relay,ipv6; mail=; rcpt=; nrcpt=1:0; fails=0 X-ECS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ECS-MailScanner-ID: r6VBBqjK004863 X-ECS-MailScanner-From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:12:01 -0000 On 30 Jul 2013, at 21:18, Randall Gellens = wrote: > At 9:16 AM -0700 7/30/13, Derek Atkins wrote: >=20 >> It's really not that complicated. >=20 > The "debate" here is mystifying, since the topic isn't complicated = (either the IETF arranges breakfast or negotiates a rate at the hotel = that includes it). No need to throw in stuff about U.S. hotels not = having buffet breakfasts. They do. They usually don't have much = selection, especially in the healthy/fresh category, but they do have a = buffet. Well, I think the IC hotel breakfast is very good, and there's no = queueing at all, despite the high numbers. The query on IETF-supplied breakfast was just about what the trend is. I = hadn't noticed the geographic pattern. It may be interesting to poll = attendees for preference, but on a small sample here it seems the = preference is for variety and thus a hotel-supplied breakfast. Tim= From swb@internet2.edu Wed Jul 31 04:14:16 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D34911E80FA for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:14:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.33 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.33 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.269, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cZH87Xy3LWfZ for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:14:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (co1ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.180.188]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFF121F9EA2 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail67-co1-R.bigfish.com (10.243.78.252) by CO1EHSOBE002.bigfish.com (10.243.66.65) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:14:08 +0000 Received: from mail67-co1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail67-co1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78DE6C01F3; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:14:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.237.5; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:BY2PRD0811HT004.namprd08.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: 7 X-BigFish: S7(zzbb2dI98dIda00h1453Idc73hzz1f42h1d77h208ch1ee6h1de0h1fdah2073h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ah1fc6h1082kzz1de098h1de097hz2dh2a8h668h839h947hd25he5bhf0ah1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh162dh1631h1758h1765h18e1h190ch1946h19b4h19c3h19ceh1ad9h1b0ah1d0ch1d2eh1d3fh1dfeh1dffh1e1dh1f5fh1b1cn1b1bi1155h) Received: from mail67-co1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail67-co1 (MessageSwitch) id 1375269246755472_3131; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO1EHSMHS024.bigfish.com (unknown [10.243.78.242]) by mail67-co1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB398D80049; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BY2PRD0811HT004.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (157.56.237.5) by CO1EHSMHS024.bigfish.com (10.243.66.34) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:14:06 +0000 Received: from dhcp-1668.meeting.ietf.org (130.129.22.104) by pod51019.outlook.com (10.255.91.167) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.341.1; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:14:05 +0000 Message-ID: <51F8F178.8030301@internet2.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:14:00 +0200 From: Scott Brim Organization: Internet2 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D183BA5FCFC@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> In-Reply-To: <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D183BA5FCFC@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [130.129.22.104] X-OriginatorOrg: internet2.edu X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, paul.hoffman@vpnc.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:14:16 -0000 On 07/31/13 11:40, R.Jesske@telekom.de allegedly wrote: > And look at the shirt there is lower case 2 at the end. In this crowd, there's no need for the 2. We can recognize binary when we encounter it. By the way: "Never trust a man who can count to 1027 on his fingers." swb From leifj@sunet.se Wed Jul 31 04:15:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A7C21E80E0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:15:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Di1HjL1LNQDV for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from e-mailfilter02.sunet.se (e-mailfilter02.sunet.se [IPv6:2001:6b0:8:2::202]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40DD021E8082 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.nordu.net (smtp1.nordu.net [IPv6:2001:948:4:6::32]) by e-mailfilter02.sunet.se (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r6VBFIDr026753 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:15:19 +0200 Received: from [130.129.9.66] (dhcp-9142.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.9.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.nordu.net (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r6VBFFte019096 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:15:18 GMT Message-ID: <51F8F1C3.7090604@sunet.se> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:15:15 +0200 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <51F8EEA3.5030704@sunet.se> <1D8584A9-9F8E-4A6E-A8F1-11A2C052EA03@ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: outbound, nordu-net:default, base:default, @@RPTN) X-p0f-Info: os=unknown unknown, link=Ethernet or modem X-CanIt-Geo: ip=130.129.9.66; country=CZ; latitude=49.7500; longitude=15.5000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=49.7500,15.5000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outbound-nordu-net:outbound (inherits from outbound-nordu-net:default, nordu-net:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0aK6Xfjsc - ece908313f91 - 20130731 X-Antispam-Training-Forget: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6Xfjsc&m=ece908313f91&t=20130731&c=f X-Antispam-Training-Nonspam: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6Xfjsc&m=ece908313f91&t=20130731&c=n X-Antispam-Training-Spam: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6Xfjsc&m=ece908313f91&t=20130731&c=s X-CanIt-Archive-Cluster: PfMRe/vJWMiXwM2YIH5BVExnUnw X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) Subject: Re: [87attendees] missing mail X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:15:21 -0000 On 07/31/2013 01:08 PM, Tim Chown wrote: > On 31 Jul 2013, at 12:01, Leif Johansson wrote: > >> On 07/31/2013 12:39 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> i suspect this list is having problems. i have not seen the mandatory >>> threads about finding atms, the terrors of trains, etc. how can i cut >>> a ticket in the noc? >>> >> me neither >> >> I don't know weather to be sad or happy > Hmmm. Are we allowed to post and say how good we think the venue has been? > > I'll try it! From leifj@sunet.se Wed Jul 31 04:19:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429F111E8172 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:19:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S6LQuK-XByOd for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from e-mailfilter02.sunet.se (e-mailfilter02.sunet.se [IPv6:2001:6b0:8:2::202]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B2C21E8108 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.nordu.net (smtp1.nordu.net [IPv6:2001:948:4:6::32]) by e-mailfilter02.sunet.se (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r6VBJ6Qo027427 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:19:06 +0200 Received: from [130.129.9.66] (dhcp-9142.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.9.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.nordu.net (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r6VBJ2bI024568 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:19:05 GMT Message-ID: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:19:02 +0200 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: outbound, nordu-net:default, base:default, @@RPTN) X-p0f-Info: os=unknown unknown, link=Ethernet or modem X-CanIt-Geo: ip=130.129.9.66; country=CZ; latitude=49.7500; longitude=15.5000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=49.7500,15.5000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outbound-nordu-net:outbound (inherits from outbound-nordu-net:default, nordu-net:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0aK6Xj6t8 - 9fea1468a5d4 - 20130731 X-Antispam-Training-Forget: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6Xj6t8&m=9fea1468a5d4&t=20130731&c=f X-Antispam-Training-Nonspam: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6Xj6t8&m=9fea1468a5d4&t=20130731&c=n X-Antispam-Training-Spam: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6Xj6t8&m=9fea1468a5d4&t=20130731&c=s X-CanIt-Archive-Cluster: PfMRe/vJWMiXwM2YIH5BVExnUnw X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) Subject: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:19:11 -0000 The venue is great and the snacks during the breaks are both tasty and plentiful. From leifj@sunet.se Wed Jul 31 04:22:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3342921E80E0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:22:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tBYOfZwCnoDG for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from e-mailfilter02.sunet.se (e-mailfilter02.sunet.se [IPv6:2001:6b0:8:2::202]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4052021E804C for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.nordu.net (smtp1.nordu.net [IPv6:2001:948:4:6::32]) by e-mailfilter02.sunet.se (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id r6VBMJ8o027986 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:22:20 +0200 Received: from [130.129.9.66] (dhcp-9142.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.9.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.nordu.net (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r6VBMGuj020919 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:22:19 GMT Message-ID: <51F8F368.1060801@sunet.se> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:22:16 +0200 From: Leif Johansson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> In-Reply-To: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: outbound, nordu-net:default, base:default, @@RPTN) X-p0f-Info: os=unknown unknown, link=Ethernet or modem X-CanIt-Geo: ip=130.129.9.66; country=CZ; latitude=49.7500; longitude=15.5000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=49.7500,15.5000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: outbound-nordu-net:outbound (inherits from outbound-nordu-net:default, nordu-net:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0aK6XmktQ - 113ac51a1c97 - 20130731 X-Antispam-Training-Forget: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6XmktQ&m=113ac51a1c97&t=20130731&c=f X-Antispam-Training-Nonspam: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6XmktQ&m=113ac51a1c97&t=20130731&c=n X-Antispam-Training-Spam: https://mailfilter.nordu.net/canit/b.php?i=0aK6XmktQ&m=113ac51a1c97&t=20130731&c=s X-CanIt-Archive-Cluster: PfMRe/vJWMiXwM2YIH5BVExnUnw X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:22:23 -0000 On 07/31/2013 01:19 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: > The venue is great and the snacks during the breaks are both tasty and > plentiful. > "Works for me". The NOC should feel free to close any tickets related to the feasibility not to whine on the attendees list. From dhc@dcrocker.net Wed Jul 31 04:28:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A25821F9FA7 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:28:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mcYHvWRRtMdN for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C47821F9D39 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.203] (e178124165.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.178.124.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6VBRhHW012457 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:27:49 -0700 Message-ID: <51F8F4AA.10104@dcrocker.net> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:27:38 +0200 From: Dave Crocker Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leif Johansson References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> In-Reply-To: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.66]); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:28:00 -0000 On 7/31/2013 1:19 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: > The venue is great and the snacks during the breaks are both tasty and > plentiful. The venue weather has sucked. It was pretty back in Munich, when we met there. The Secretariat needs to do a better job of controlling venue weather. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From johnl@taugh.com Wed Jul 31 04:28:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A495A11E80F0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:28:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oQPWNxC8gwMO for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:28:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A04221E80E5 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21666 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2013 11:28:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=54a0.51f8f4e6.k1307; bh=cQcCZn2nZ3bZgtJ1PEmvmyNy/Z8IlE4br4ykPRDrd/8=; b=kHQbX8SH9Y9gNwo1lSTCOSuYAvm09FzKZyLH1KLwUZpHt4z26eCtJzUjV1IEML/D+sssXz/QebYKtodKSxzBksmrLlpxiKJ1hYItfdpE4EDhjPgtavVc/CqaSo2qsZsnHjldZ+m/ozEgnSAGs3dQi1Z200U58nH4ECe7OH1ZOchL59MltGn0toRx2eqZ52G6viVGBF2SidZMSh01VJP1KhiLsGdyr9zj6f4CM7+qUTlOwf91fhuRhRKyO17ZWsMc DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=54a0.51f8f4e6.k1307; bh=cQcCZn2nZ3bZgtJ1PEmvmyNy/Z8IlE4br4ykPRDrd/8=; b=LcPgGnaC086Go0dg+bYgS9t6me16tuEkuHuBKLuhBUyXT5kS4HCI8GvF6P+ThLiZjlNiDQzUo/Zoq9SbG9e9wACLeEiOGXxF0gJ6tSbD23fyyzz+bGhBJw0ytd63nk/A7O8j4So+VzHgcPf4z6nDePiG9HQKgRp+o2XAQcoWxmCrQHi1fHPyTVGSav381s3pbUWXL7VD+VzvQxbezM7NhG0yChU6vKTEu7q+27lFkvBMewk766DkMEUbCedWA4l9 Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 31 Jul 2013 11:28:16 -0000 Date: 31 Jul 2013 13:28:37 +0200 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Paul Hoffman" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:28:43 -0000 > Dropping leading zeros in octets? Really? If you don't want your shirt, I'll cheerfully take it off your hands. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. PS: How often have they run out of tee shirts ? :( From hgs@cs.columbia.edu Wed Jul 31 04:29:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA0B621F9ED1 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:29:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5RTFT7Szg3fE for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rambutan.cc.columbia.edu (rambutan.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.5]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE64721E8130 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-431d.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-431d.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.67.29]) (user=hgs10 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by rambutan.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r6VBTgS0022740 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Henning Schulzrinne In-Reply-To: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:29:47 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <614FA34D-6C24-48D8-AF84-DAEB344FFDB2@cs.columbia.edu> References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> To: Leif Johansson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.5 Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:29:55 -0000 ... and the social had all the right qualities: - interesting venue - great food with lots of variety and local flavor - plenty of places for a non-shouting conversation - ability to eat without balancing a dinner plate - plenty of appetizers - opportunity to be outdoors if desired - toys for kids, both below and above the legal age Henning On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Leif Johansson wrote: > The venue is great and the snacks during the breaks are both tasty and > plentiful. > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > From julian.reschke@greenbytes.de Wed Jul 31 04:32:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB3CB21E80E0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:32:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.249 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.249 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id K4Rx8mwDy0gx for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.greenbytes.de (mail.greenbytes.de [217.91.35.233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86DD221F9B90 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.20.103] (unknown [130.129.20.103]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by central.greenbytes.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 228EB10C0255; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:32:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51F8F5D3.5070609@greenbytes.de> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:32:35 +0200 From: Julian Reschke Organization: greenbytes GmbH User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John R Levine References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Paul Hoffman Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:32:49 -0000 On 2013-07-31 13:28, John R Levine wrote: >> Dropping leading zeros in octets? Really? > > If you don't want your shirt, I'll cheerfully take it off your hands. > ... Same here. Best regards, Julian (just arrived and shirts are gone!) 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I selected XXXL when I registered. To make matters worse, they keep serving all this rich food at breaks making it impossible to fit into the XXL shirt. Can I please have a refund including the VAT? I did not get what I ordered. This is not acceptable. Oh, and it rained yesterday and it was very hot the day before. And they speak a foreign langugage here. And what is Zitronlimonade? Lemon-lemonade, give me a break! :-) Ole J. 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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Reschke References: <51F8F5D3.5070609@greenbytes.de> In-Reply-To: <51F8F5D3.5070609@greenbytes.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, John R Levine , Paul Hoffman Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:40:24 -0000 Dne 31.7.2013 13:32, Julian Reschke napsal(a): > On 2013-07-31 13:28, John R Levine wrote: >>> Dropping leading zeros in octets? Really? >> >> If you don't want your shirt, I'll cheerfully take it off your hands. >> ... > > > Same here. > > Best regards, Julian (just arrived and shirts are gone!) +1 they were gone already yesterday morning RK From ole@cisco.com Wed Jul 31 04:41:48 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C10C21F940D for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:41:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -110.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id joWXXuHLrthI for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-2.cisco.com (ams-iport-2.cisco.com [144.254.224.141]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A94E21F9D93 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:41:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1385; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1375270903; x=1376480503; h=date:from:reply-to:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id: references:mime-version; bh=aH6LzetwY0HBzGU7lraJyDAZzMH7XfvT+ahjZoPW8rk=; b=mAQOB5m4U+qnZK9c14oWtDpvi/hWFut4SrEMOLk/K6H+Ssw6oqMPGaWP Gd+YR0Q/jqY8VBlnBkwPpENhQpwhdF1WlYRvA2XDHxrgmlfdKnt45hPaX IW1izoE8Uzh7U1sV4GkMFNCQHPh6mNbYd/0esvJ8oLaURKA0ypLZEgznq 4=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicFAF/3+FGQ/khN/2dsb2JhbABYAw6CeDUBvmyBGBZ0giQBAQEEAQEBNzQLEAsOCi4nMAYTiBAMuGuOT4EoEAcRg3oDiSqUWIYGhSSCVl4cgTU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,786,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="85307334" Received: from ams-core-4.cisco.com ([144.254.72.77]) by ams-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 11:41:37 +0000 Received: from [10.27.1.132] (sjc-ole-8913.cisco.com [10.27.1.132]) by ams-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6VBfW4J012963 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:41:34 GMT Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Ole Jacobsen To: Henning Schulzrinne In-Reply-To: <614FA34D-6C24-48D8-AF84-DAEB344FFDB2@cs.columbia.edu> Message-ID: References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> <614FA34D-6C24-48D8-AF84-DAEB344FFDB2@cs.columbia.edu> User-Agent: Alpine 2.01 (OSX 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Leif Johansson Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:41:48 -0000 Henning, I agree. The food distribution protocol needed some work however, it suffered from congestion and unpredictable two-way flows. I hope you all noticed the Jaquard Loom, forerunner to the programmable computer! Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 Mobile: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: ole@cisco.com URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj Skype: organdemo On Wed, 31 Jul 2013, Henning Schulzrinne wrote: > ... and the social had all the right qualities: > > - interesting venue > - great food with lots of variety and local flavor > - plenty of places for a non-shouting conversation > - ability to eat without balancing a dinner plate > - plenty of appetizers > - opportunity to be outdoors if desired > - toys for kids, both below and above the legal age > > Henning > > On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:19 AM, Leif Johansson wrote: > > > The venue is great and the snacks during the breaks are both tasty and > > plentiful. > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > From Ted.Lemon@nominum.com Wed Jul 31 04:43:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFF421E8108 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:43:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.531 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.531 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jpPd3Pi-bv70 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og124.obsmtp.com (exprod7og124.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1547921F940D for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell-too.nominum.com ([64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob124.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUfj4SaS91vH41xGgPbhr7bl1d0Ua+rT/@postini.com; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:43:06 PDT Received: from archivist.nominum.com (archivist.nominum.com [64.89.228.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 937281B8286 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.nominum.com (cas-01.win.nominum.com [64.89.228.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by archivist.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 101F4190065; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:43:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ted.Lemon@nominum.com) Received: from MBX-01.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.133]) by CAS-01.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.131]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:42:57 -0700 From: Ted Lemon To: Paul Hoffman Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? Thread-Index: AQHOjdE29t7YLrgOb02TUPB7irczvZl/H+mA Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:42:56 +0000 Message-ID: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077523A20F@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2FDEF7F87C1A08478944E313F37301B2@nominum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:43:14 -0000 On Jul 31, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Dropping leading zeros in octets? Really? You can fit five of them in a 36-bit word, with a bit left over. It's a b= ig win. From johnl@taugh.com Wed Jul 31 04:46:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7252F21F9EB8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:46:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0VNokRR7u6pw for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927F421F9E24 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25753 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2013 11:46:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=6497.51f8f915.k1307; bh=pzHsMpFXdyVNQxu7gXD92bfii5/K/qj9hsJS+DCRwh8=; b=yU+9FfWaMvB/9wFSY30beoWD1XwwdgU4TKNP+Nw+TJo8Q1lxqbDl6l2EYerLwZK9BEfvgzDol4PSUt7mivccCFahjN7xZ4mBmMn8uM9Ue4bU6RdqAU0HKNi3mi8eVpd2EALO2qU1/dsB9cU7XFcPa8MScjWVogQ3Ru1/vJg1R7z80F+dOysarDT3ZaPGIyIzSrtTqS59KBmusOwSwmeAIvR1DblCpIL5iXwuMYpLlcadBGs9I3u5e2dBDhIJJVHx DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=6497.51f8f915.k1307; bh=pzHsMpFXdyVNQxu7gXD92bfii5/K/qj9hsJS+DCRwh8=; b=e+Bb+RRT/T/l6rbzKOjKou6rVuFMW72I8rYb2B5H098E7H7Q4PaSvOOyulrc1CMETZHjGSsdlicsnJBW3vv8D7jP4xsY5jSPzYMfSsyxJTcgiFyXnUqx7Vck7pr0c2VqqryISe1JIQeCwC0bzSjrgedSRDwCZYEOQZns69onEA3CzGsouNHy2XPoWyj0SUyJAtvCwnKOrJf7p17oh+aQk8fc7t4AXJmtg1hENzdYI5zELOq37euxrW0ocYDxSFS6 Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 31 Jul 2013 11:46:07 -0000 Date: 31 Jul 2013 13:46:28 +0200 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Ted Lemon" In-Reply-To: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077523A20F@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> References: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077523A20F@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:46:35 -0000 >> Dropping leading zeros in octets? Really? > > You can fit five of them in a 36-bit word, with a bit left over. It's a big win. It's not left over, it tells you it's a sequence number. Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. 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Thread-Index: AQHOjdE1ThILklbE0EeguyP1B7+xipl+po+AgAABHICAAAIqAIAAJBuA Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:49:36 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <51F8F7A4.8020709@cesnet.cz> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.255.110.4] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-ID: <4658C8214088DB4B9C9CF0CC750BD907@namprd08.prod.outlook.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: internet2.edu X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, John R Levine , Paul Hoffman Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:49:48 -0000 SSB3aWxsIGdpdmUgYSBzaXplIEwgdG8gdGhlIGZpcnN0IGNhbGxlci4gIFNsaWdodGx5IHVzZWQu DQoNCg== From hgs@cs.columbia.edu Wed Jul 31 04:52:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2302B21E8148 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:52:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s5Yu16obRl5K for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:51:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tarap.cc.columbia.edu (tarap.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.7]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9950E21E8143 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-431d.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-431d.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.67.29]) (user=hgs10 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by tarap.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r6VBpSim023630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:51:29 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Henning Schulzrinne In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:51:33 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> <614FA34D-6C24-48D8-AF84-DAEB344FFDB2@cs.columbia.edu> To: Ole Jacobsen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.7 Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Leif Johansson Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:52:00 -0000 As appropriate for a museum, it used the old two-wire protocol found in = analog phone systems, where information flowing in both directions = shares the same set of wires. The guide said that they hadn't updated = their telecom exhibit since the 1980s, but were working on that. On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: >=20 > Henning, >=20 > I agree. The food distribution protocol needed some work > however, it suffered from congestion and unpredictable > two-way flows. >=20 > I hope you all noticed the Jaquard Loom, forerunner to > the programmable computer! >=20 > Ole >=20 >=20 > Ole J. 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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:52:59 -0000 On 7/31/13 1:46 PM, John R Levine wrote: >>> Dropping leading zeros in octets? Really? >> >> You can fit five of them in a 36-bit word, with a bit left over. >> It's a big win. You can sort people by age based on whether they know this. > It's not left over, it tells you it's a sequence number. > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY > "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > From superuser@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 04:54:27 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1940A21E813E for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:54:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.48 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.48 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.119, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kiWz+onqE-2z for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x22e.google.com (mail-we0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0AC21E8136 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id q54so500580wes.5 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:54:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OR095OcMJoKOlU23JFPOFo8lTRAcEkwB5QngOo61GKs=; b=scK9/ILxmJABPDgyXB8aEGCZNEzpB75P3Tny9J09ZN/etaWvtfsFRGs2VQN3g2rMnP 79Opq+kHBuqHjSIDSeZNiYDvarrmDUIUqcoR5Qah4YGq5MZlhF8M55yVF6A+8KqSAQMa yQeCpEGPRglC3Iz06NuFHJeu7nCKA50X3gKvCzke9C1XSPyMHw5ntI4pzVZbOwrz5rgc 6zvE21Xk0Qfx/lCGdb/WFsYsQemvSS5ijsrUSXLJHc3bhzwQntJWlFwPovS+6GTfQFoL U2dUzSO/RbN/IyS5lwkanIy1qeKTK74sN5zp/C0V5VOvSsp+VVRfgtbNqLdBQxmAN16f UlEQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.3.78 with SMTP id a14mr15664114wja.77.1375271655316; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.125.36 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:54:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> <51F7DCAF.7020905@internet2.edu> <51F7E3E0.6010101@gmail.com> <1375200985.5686.35.camel@localhost> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:54:15 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: Randall Gellens Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343d6a7c24f904e2cd626a Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Derek Atkins , Alexandru Petrescu Subject: Re: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:54:29 -0000 --047d7b343d6a7c24f904e2cd626a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: > The "debate" here is mystifying, since the topic isn't complicated (either > the IETF arranges breakfast or negotiates a rate at the hotel that includes > it). > I agree. But you didn't need to make it worse by mentioning food in your teeth. :-) -MSK --047d7b343d6a7c24f904e2cd626a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@qti.qualcomm.com> wrote:
The "debate" her= e is mystifying, since the topic isn't complicated (either the IETF arr= anges breakfast or negotiates a rate at the hotel that includes it).

I agree.=A0 But you didn't need to make it = worse by mentioning food in your teeth.=A0 :-)

-MSK
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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:55:37 -0000 On 31 Jul 2013, at 12:27, Dave Crocker wrote: > On 7/31/2013 1:19 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: >> The venue is great and the snacks during the breaks are both tasty = and >> plentiful. >=20 >=20 > The venue weather has sucked. It was pretty back in Munich, when we = met there. >=20 > The Secretariat needs to do a better job of controlling venue weather. And the hotel bar has run out of the good beers. =20 We seem to have collectively absorbed all the Schofferhofer beers and = the Schwarzbier - well done us! :) Tim= From N.Leymann@telekom.de Wed Jul 31 04:59:44 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B002821E80E0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:59:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.165 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.165 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.084, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7Iga-0a1xhnB for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tcmail23.telekom.de (tcmail23.telekom.de [80.149.113.243]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0795621E80FF for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from he111296.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.90.14]) by tcmail21.telekom.de with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 31 Jul 2013 13:59:37 +0200 Received: from HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com ([10.125.90.96]) by HE111296.EMEA1.CDS.T-INTERNAL.COM ([fe80::19ac:3fb4:a382:6df4%16]) with mapi; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:59:36 +0200 From: To: , Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:59:35 +0200 Thread-Topic: [87attendees] testing a positive post... Thread-Index: Ac6N5RCCUFRAkHNFQc+7RIPeNl39QAAAC/MA Message-ID: <9762ACF04FA26B4388476841256BDE02011AE052A5B1@HE111543.emea1.cds.t-internal.com> References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> <51F8F4AA.10104@dcrocker.net> <26BA3B6D-C7EA-4967-BAAA-3E67AAF1CE00@ecs.soton.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: de-DE Content-Language: de-DE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: de-DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, leifj@sunet.se Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:59:44 -0000 Hi, > > And the hotel bar has run out of the good beers. > > We seem to have collectively absorbed all the > Schofferhofer beers and the Schwarzbier - well done us! :) You will find them in every supermarket, so it shouldn't be a big deal to get replacement. Regards Nic From superuser@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 05:08:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9A511E8171 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:08:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.495 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.495 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.104, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X6EzLZLQXb6D for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7ACD21F9A3B for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hq12so557796wib.10 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:08:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hbGYzhQskr+PrNVHr7P6DC1lNTE3Iw6KdWwCO6hVkBw=; b=GCCLkiuf1roIym5wXrMfYv8d+w71O9r56E/PAz8MhYlyuv6B7kSgabWP/DtxExacsA H6ihbLQ4K/RNfg97/mEGr+VGJoB7JOKRJkNy99O8TvcL2AmrIoDUiJ7FtXOshJ2RT6QT XpP3lwej0XI9b/cGxAM0s6QhH4FN+Z2nw0ujBCzcCqH00dyzwt8qKkfw+9ptC/ISoxB1 /8yExIQdhZAu/iXwt+2XJn0ObhbFZ2FtihZbZiVmHlo+S26HYI1sg7xLAfgllrmyfJOs jKwXEcawdpfWJjNbOW9ACkgDEh2V1gHTuFkIUfTC0UPl1zgKx24AuJKDaVHHe4AHkV9w KhFg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.239.225 with SMTP id vv1mr49806069wjc.63.1375272483544; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.125.36 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:08:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:08:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: Leif Johansson Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01493384d9e5d004e2cd93aa Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:08:06 -0000 --089e01493384d9e5d004e2cd93aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 More test data: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Leif Johansson wrote: > The venue is great and the snacks during the breaks are both tasty and > plentiful. > > The proximity to a huge park with lots of flat walking and running routes and a river, and nice landmarks within a good walking distance, are all big +1s for me. And my room is great. And the pool is really cool-looking. And breakfast is one of the better ones. And I was one of the lucky 25 that got displaced due to overbooking for the first night, but as displacements go it was handled with approximately zero pain (a five minute walk is not painful to me). Well done. And the network uplink both in the room and in the sessions has been flawless. The weather sucked the first day, yet somehow I survived and it recovered nicely. The social was good in just about every respect, though it would've been nice to have access to the aircraft section. I'm a happy attendee. -MSK --089e01493384d9e5d004e2cd93aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Le= if Johansson <leifj@sunet.se> wrote:
The venue is great and the snacks during the= breaks are both tasty and
plentiful.


The proximity to a huge park with lots= of flat walking and running routes and a river, and nice landmarks within = a good walking distance, are all big +1s for me.

And my r= oom is great.=A0 And the pool is really cool-looking.=A0 And breakfast is o= ne of the better ones.

And I was one of the lucky 25 that got displaced due to overbooking for= the first night, but as displacements go it was handled with approximately= zero pain (a five minute walk is not painful to me).=A0 Well done.

And the network uplink both in the room and in the sessions has = been flawless.

The weather sucked the first day, yet somehow I survi= ved and it recovered nicely.

The social was good in just = about every respect, though it would've been nice to have access to the= aircraft section.

I'm a happy attendee.<= br>
-MSK

--089e01493384d9e5d004e2cd93aa-- From paitken@cisco.com Wed Jul 31 05:08:35 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805ED11E80F0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:08:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.453 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.453 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.146, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2lf+6UXa4325 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD5E21E80A8 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:08:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=287; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1375272505; x=1376482105; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references: in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gYT4B4RNhrYF8F7VDdb7G84dJ5VBkVyP5mtZFPih61A=; b=HaYiUQDaiTtJpPJi9m0ydaLG7tY5LjPFGI0AwVnkYMNd1c9p2W0JXtk3 dMkxyUXLPwdwG+SAMIQrhF0UMJVKdbukeyBw8kSo3FbFlTFB9vl0H+0DP Z4WnzarRLLVPLGYYUmc4YCllcUuitLbEAdT74flfzbWDbEkGTmxt234dP I=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikFALX9+FGQ/khL/2dsb2JhbABbgwY2jFGyG4EYFnSCJQEBBDhAESwWDwkDAgECAUUGDQgBAYgMuQSOWYE1hAsDl1+GI4sqgxWBZwQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,787,1367971200"; d="scan'208";a="157792950" Received: from ams-core-2.cisco.com ([144.254.72.75]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 12:08:22 +0000 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.70.36]) by ams-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6VC8KRn026756 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:08:21 GMT Received: from [10.61.88.11] (ams3-vpn-dhcp6156.cisco.com [10.61.88.11]) by cisco.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id r6VC8JcZ012962 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:08:19 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <51F8FE33.3050005@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:08:19 +0100 From: Paul Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> References: <51F58C2B.9080005@gmail.com> <778B5E81-80C1-42A9-8EF6-8D02F8748D28@isoc.org> <51F62CAA.90307@gmail.com> <51F62ECF.5010300@internet2.edu> <51F63054.9060507@gmail.com> <51F68538.9020007@gmail.com> <4F490BD1-5D01-4570-8740-F74B15F5F7EB@nostrum.com> <51F6A313.7000705@nostrum.com> <51F6A8A7.6090003@dcrocker.net> <0D7DC237-4187-470A-ABE1-4DD7E0F2E24D@nostrum.com> <51F6D875.8090802@nomountain.net> <51F77492.9020300@gmail.com> <51F7B98F.7090500@gmail.com> <51F7DCAF.7020905@internet2.edu> <51F7E3E0.6010101@gmail.com> <1375200985.5686.35.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [87attendees] IETF Breakfast BoF? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:08:35 -0000 Can we have a breakfast BoF, aiming to produce a protocol which allows those who received an inclusive breakfast but don't want it, to give that breakfast to those who do want it? It could be extended to last-minute room cancellations and social tickets too. :-) P. From dhc@dcrocker.net Wed Jul 31 05:10:59 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B446A21F9B01 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:10:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zIMATE3pOdrl for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EB211E8177 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.203] (e178124165.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.178.124.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6VCAM9a013214 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:10:29 -0700 Message-ID: <51F8FEAA.6050709@dcrocker.net> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:10:18 +0200 From: Dave Crocker Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.66]); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 05:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, Leif Johansson Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:10:59 -0000 On 7/31/2013 2:08 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > The weather sucked the first day, yet somehow I survived and it > recovered nicely. Take a look at the weather report for this week. Friday and Saturday are again going to be fun. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From rgm@labs.htt-consult.com Wed Jul 31 06:21:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2296E21F9F01 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:21:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jvDaOPIZ39Eg for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from klovia.htt-consult.com (klovia.htt-consult.com [IPv6:2607:f4b8:3:0:218:71ff:fe83:66b9]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793CD21F9223 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by klovia.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395F062A78; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:21:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at localhost Received: from klovia.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (klovia.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dPnfuVeZ85yF; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx120e2.htt-consult.com (dhcp-4520.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.69.32]) (Authenticated sender: rgm@labs.htt-consult.com) by klovia.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 08F2662A65; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51F90F42.7030608@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:21:06 +0200 From: Robert Moskowitz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Kyzivat References: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077523A20F@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51F8FA0B.5060207@alum.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <51F8FA0B.5060207@alum.mit.edu> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030301020603020206040801" Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:21:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030301020603020206040801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 07/31/2013 01:50 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > On 7/31/13 1:46 PM, John R Levine wrote: >>>> Dropping leading zeros in octets? Really? >>> >>> You can fit five of them in a 36-bit word, with a bit left over. >>> It's a big win. > > You can sort people by age based on whether they know this. Then there were those of us that worked with 60-bit words. Much better for things like Linear Programming and such..,,, > >> It's not left over, it tells you it's a sequence number. >> >> Regards, >> John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY >> "I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly. >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >> > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > -- Standard Robert Moskowitz Senior Technical Advisor Security & Standards Verizon Business Systems C:248-928-6233 F:248-968-2824 E:robert.moskowitz@verizon.com There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit --------------030301020603020206040801 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 07/31/2013 01:50 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
On 7/31/13 1:46 PM, John R Levine wrote:
Dropping leading zeros in octets? Really?

You can fit five of them in a 36-bit word, with a bit left over.
It's a big win.

You can sort people by age based on whether they know this.

Then there were those of us that worked with 60-bit words.  Much better for things like Linear Programming and such..,,,


It's not left over, it tells you it's a sequence number.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY
"I dropped the toothpaste", said Tom, crestfallenly.
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There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit
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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:03:49 -0000 At 1:14 PM +0200 7/31/13, Scott Brim wrote: > In this crowd, there's no need for the 2. We can recognize binary when > we encounter it. I didn't get that the 2 meant binary...I'm not used to doing it that way. A preceding character, sure. Single tick marks enclosing, sure. Subscripts? Not so much. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Cabbage: A familiar kitchen-garden vegetable about as large and wise as a man's head. From turners@ieca.com Wed Jul 31 07:04:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533E221E80CA for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:04:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -100.773 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-100.773 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.367, BAYES_20=-0.74, IP_NOT_FRIENDLY=0.334, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z00vYBZh9vEh for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway07.websitewelcome.com (gateway07.websitewelcome.com [69.56.184.21]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBDBE11E81A4 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gateway07.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 5007) id D45FDF93A636A; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:03:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator1743.hostgator.com (gator1743.hostgator.com [184.173.253.227]) by gateway07.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8368F93A6322 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:03:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [130.129.19.236] (port=52737 helo=dhcp-13ec.meeting.ietf.org) by gator1743.hostgator.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V4X0S-0008Da-7D for 87attendees@ietf.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:04:00 -0500 Message-ID: <51F9194F.4000901@ieca.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:03:59 +0200 From: Sean Turner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator1743.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ietf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ieca.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (dhcp-13ec.meeting.ietf.org) [130.129.19.236]:52737 X-Source-Auth: sean.turner@ieca.com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: ZG9tbWdyNDg7ZG9tbWdyNDg7Z2F0b3IxNzQzLmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= Subject: [87attendees] nat64 network X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:04:17 -0000 Anybody using the nat64 network running mac os x 10.6.8? spt From simon.perreault@viagenie.ca Wed Jul 31 07:10:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD7A21F8438 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:10:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mltoMD7EYBQt for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.viagenie.ca (jazz.viagenie.ca [IPv6:2620:0:230:8000::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0318611E8194 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from porto.nomis80.org (unknown [IPv6:2620:0:230:2001::1000]) by jazz.viagenie.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 34870403CF for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:10:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <51F91AD8.2030608@viagenie.ca> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:10:32 +0200 From: Simon Perreault User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130625 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <580BEA5E3B99744AB1F5BFF5E9A3C67D183BA5FCFC@HE111648.emea1.cds.t-inter nal.com> <51F8F178.8030301@internet2.edu> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:10:54 -0000 Le 2013-07-31 15:57, Randall Gellens a écrit : > At 1:14 PM +0200 7/31/13, Scott Brim wrote: > >> In this crowd, there's no need for the 2. We can recognize binary when >> we encounter it. > > I didn't get that the 2 meant binary...I'm not used to doing it that > way. A preceding character, sure. Single tick marks enclosing, sure. > Subscripts? Not so much. It's common math notation. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Base.html Simon -- DTN made easy, lean, and smart --> http://postellation.viagenie.ca NAT64/DNS64 open-source --> http://ecdysis.viagenie.ca STUN/TURN server --> http://numb.viagenie.ca From ynir@checkpoint.com Wed Jul 31 07:24:17 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D99B11E81A5 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:24:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.509 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.509 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.090, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h+SL9RFIma+z for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A39B11E817A for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from IL-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([194.29.34.147]) by smtp.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6VEO3dn005994 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:24:03 +0300 X-CheckPoint: {51F91E03-4-1B221DC2-1FFFF} Received: from DAG-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([169.254.3.90]) by IL-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([169.254.2.105]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:24:02 +0300 From: Yoav Nir To: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: Slide numbers Thread-Index: AQHOjfma0lQDeEOoCkuYtQjjkBt7Fg== Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:24:01 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.31.20.171] x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: protection disabled x-cpdlp: 11b537628defc0bab88d3f3d04fcfc3d5fee061fbe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <80B6984CE53CB140B89B8CF063E7E4C5@ad.checkpoint.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:24:17 -0000 I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might be mos= tly too late now, but we should remember to remind people two weeks before = the meeting that slides need numbers. From moore@network-heretics.com Wed Jul 31 07:29:14 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4BF21E8111 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:29:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.18 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.18 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.419, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NeMrdo6B2ekz for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A5C21E80DC for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E7121587; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:28:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; s=smtpout; bh=52ywyI720jLaHrGnID5ACuRD+YU=; b=c+ IuPF/SNLKPQOyjvDdM5e1ChvfTBOKvE/iC4KfWspan/4pYqQWXZueHAgO1ryJMEb r93MYXn0htxEuTW3oVwlXJaGc6/WHLRW0Mu4n/gJGsD4g0T9maL4wUxP0HVK2TZr BggMQQyifB5eyvZA86k7mvNJh0Xol8P1X0nJYY13s= X-Sasl-enc: 8mC+WV9YekE7H6H4bUylS2NpkkGWJpMZo0phgTEvQuji 1375280938 Received: from dhcp-11c1.meeting.ietf.org (unknown [130.129.17.193]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7BF74C00E8A; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Keith Moore In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:28:57 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7DC77680-39CC-493D-9350-5EBABDE41BCA@network-heretics.com> References: To: Yoav Nir X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:29:14 -0000 On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: > I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might = be mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind people two = weeks before the meeting that slides need numbers. Or maybe we just need to have so few slides that numbers aren't needed. Actually I think numbers would be a good idea. But I'd also like to = see meeting date, WG name, and Internet-Draft ID on the footer of every = slide. Keith From chelliot@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 07:29:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B13B21F9EB2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:29:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.069 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.069 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.758, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z2RyrOKdwpY3 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:29:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-x22a.google.com (mail-lb0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::22a]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1998521F9F31 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id r10so650114lbi.1 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:29:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=shGOQ2UukPujCjW7ubU+Dz0KoW0Hx8+x8sC5HCcmm1E=; b=PBlxkdY5mJ9g6iJq+yq88ENg0fulDNwvcBta1WibSxSaHpQYSMZkrs+e2EYf89KAE1 n/Z00ScHwrbNVvcH8ty8qBKF7t6sk5aY/5Egcn09OglK9TmKTatyKQAA7tIhIYTvNNAU w/vzE/YtdybkubX8tCl1M7EdT5XQpsH+h5JaeC9ziDUFxiDAhbTOxfCks4xc152b+IY3 tPfJdNi25nmG8ucdbot0pA0EmvoqC2u4OEJ7nM5bptep/Ib/Npf8Bkhv/m7KmCryuqno jGo+C0+1Y0QJwL1o/A0X+d/hnaMkFeBTMe5Og0mMInc9wCwApI+cmAsgmIFYwaeefqEH JJbA== X-Received: by 10.112.57.49 with SMTP id f17mr3735744lbq.26.1375280948972; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:29:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: chelliot@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.3.44 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:28:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F9194F.4000901@ieca.com> References: <51F9194F.4000901@ieca.com> From: Chris Elliott Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:28:47 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JeSCaeIUblBA2C1yjm7xR_x3Lkw Message-ID: To: Sean Turner Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133eaca6e11f604e2cf8cb5 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] nat64 network X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: chelliot@pobox.com List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:29:37 -0000 --001a1133eaca6e11f604e2cf8cb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sean, I'm using 10.8.4, but, from this document (among others): http://lists.apple.com/archives/ipv6-dev/2011/Jun/msg00041.html it appears that DHCPv6 support started in 10.7. You should still be able to use this network by manually setting your DNS servers. Chris. On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Sean Turner wrote: > Anybody using the nat64 network running mac os x 10.6.8? > > spt > ______________________________**_________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/87attendees > -- Chris Elliott chelliot@pobox.com --001a1133eaca6e11f604e2cf8cb5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sean,

I'm using 10.8.4, but, from t= his document (among others):


it appears that DHCPv6 support started in 10.7. Y= ou should still be able to use this network by manually setting your DNS se= rvers.

Chris.


On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Sean Tu= rner <turners@ieca.com> wrote:
Anybody using the nat64 network running mac os x 10.6.8?

spt
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--001a1133eaca6e11f604e2cf8cb5-- From maazrehan@yahoo.com Wed Jul 31 07:33:12 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B218221F9CD9 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:33:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hGuh7fquqdnf for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nm1-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3113521E80D1 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2013 14:33:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.245] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2013 14:33:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1059.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jul 2013 14:33:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 29523.8210.bm@omp1059.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 2046 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jul 2013 14:32:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1375281179; bh=Ug2MHDM2k4bwCZSpyc0RsQcNCZGd6/+zwZZD8Q+8hgI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=by5uy7LPj3qiP4irhFtBwXiwrWN2vHOps+gHNkjKzmUBfSByiwLJXzvSogHvt8HNFhA7S91SxkN5mt0fURUgTm8CZCxOgqY7tMDq70w7hvz4/OI7zfSMygTz26sNUkMyt+QL9pww08/hzjxVD9vxkQsV1zPzMVh1np6eZujsWDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gb+yT7UG2dNswCshmw9LUsgcisx6R2jhyuh+693Tafy1jFVtW/bk1nZ0iHef1t9wqxGj2D5Wp9Y40mPF9wDVkVaHG6ye0euOxmfzbJIJkdc+5a17uqjtuC0wvVOxJ/6clb26LTbkpqvxCEZtjBwQ9EkXJJ7TfhChqC5EUTGNfQo=; X-YMail-OSG: 4a4qLsMVM1mYiFGHvVkhD2k0v.pl.pe_m4yCm3lFAIJvKlF grhElqIB4mYyNbbDEBxsCLgI7EZHhNv57mmM1bkbI6BuaovEgS9zOAugMvvn l5vOxnCmJXrI7i8HZ1bmCWvGbqUUNH8OpWuj.B.jWzMp.yI9PomjUdSu9PA2 GIpVOg9.ntJBHN0rWhaoABrWtOhI6FcWgtLBkciuAsWtzBoqA8wzJpxoK_Bm dxdztgEsVysSvr.BTtLBhWWWPu7aDMY_XvIt9_0GswxISmq8BcmPE4YSY6OT V_TDuUZPr5eOTQPbgKQ8ncQNfl12YXwn.V9QiJZS8N9hOEeCGp7dkO0GP1YB hnJPT1fY4B4eGyW91IHsJUyaQwVlfKeTR0AYnVIpRljBLMhUQnVfXmKQC6B2 aFnPUni9BSB4b4pzj9UrLGJfWm8iIZphJ4NX5Deqxj3THredGmk08vpBZOAZ aMtfhTfFFfDpLD267SSLc41vOxPNxOfswTjTLrPrLczjUsu1pm3dqJtwdDYi DNO_4xOb16ZSiSwo8y05ZtcIVHJzH4xE.q2VkK26DuKGCk9eLuW.YstAr8aG h4mSg4TvOJw-- Received: from [130.129.66.130] by web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:32:59 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001, SGF2aW5nIGF0IGxlYXN0IG51bWJlciBpcyBhIGdvb2QgaWRlYSwgc28gdGhhdCB3aGlsZSBwdXR0aW5nIGEgcXVlc3Rpb24sIHRoZSBzbGlkZSBjYW4gYmUgcmVmZXJyZWQuCgoKTWFhei4KCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogS2VpdGggTW9vcmUgPG1vb3JlQG5ldHdvcmstaGVyZXRpY3MuY29tPgpUbzogWW9hdiBOaXIgPHluaXJAY2hlY2twb2ludC5jb20.IApDYzogIjw4N2F0dGVuZGVlc0BpZXRmLm9yZz4iIDw4N2F0dGVuZGVlc0BpZXRmLm9yZz4gClNlbnQ6IFdlZG4BMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.151.566 References: <7DC77680-39CC-493D-9350-5EBABDE41BCA@network-heretics.com> Message-ID: <1375281179.95596.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Maaz Rehan To: Keith Moore In-Reply-To: <7DC77680-39CC-493D-9350-5EBABDE41BCA@network-heretics.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="737196383-576807017-1375281179=:95596" Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Yoav Nir Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maaz Rehan List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:33:12 -0000 --737196383-576807017-1375281179=:95596 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Having at least number is a good idea, so that while putting a question, th= e slide can be referred.=0A=0A=0AMaaz.=0A=0A=0A____________________________= ____=0A From: Keith Moore =0ATo: Yoav Nir =0ACc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> =0A= Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 16:28=0ASubject: Re: [87attendees] Slide num= bers=0A =0A=0AOn Jul 31, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Yoav Nir wrote:=0A=0A> I've seen= way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might be mostly too l= ate now, but we should remember to remind people two weeks before the meeti= ng that slides need numbers.=0A=0AOr maybe we just need to have so few slid= es that numbers aren't needed.=0A=0AActually I think numbers would be a goo= d idea.=A0 But I'd also like to see meeting date, WG name, and Internet-Dr= aft ID on the footer of every slide.=0A=0AKeith=0A=0A=0A___________________= ____________________________=0A87attendees mailing list=0A87attendees@ietf.= org=0Ahttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --737196383-576807017-1375281179=:95596 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Having at least number is a = good idea, so that while putting a question, the slide can be referred.
=

Maaz.
From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
To: Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com> Cc: "<87attendees@ietf= .org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2013, 16:28
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers

On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Yoav Ni= r wrote:

> I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide = numbers. Might be mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind peo= ple two weeks before the meeting that slides need numbers.

Or maybe = we just need to have so few slides that numbers aren't needed.

Actua= lly I think numbers would be a good idea.  But I'd also like to see m= eeting date, WG name, and Internet-Draft ID on the footer of every slide.
Keith


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--737196383-576807017-1375281179=:95596-- From hgs@cs.columbia.edu Wed Jul 31 07:40:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A80911E8109 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:40:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wyR11a3pRvCl for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rambutan.cc.columbia.edu (rambutan.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.29.5]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C453711E81A1 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-431d.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-431d.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.67.29]) (user=hgs10 mech=PLAIN bits=0) by rambutan.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r6VEeIkO004052 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:40:20 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Henning Schulzrinne In-Reply-To: <7DC77680-39CC-493D-9350-5EBABDE41BCA@network-heretics.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:40:24 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <986D746D-3CFC-405B-8885-0A67BDFF3D93@cs.columbia.edu> References: <7DC77680-39CC-493D-9350-5EBABDE41BCA@network-heretics.com> To: Keith Moore X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-No-Spam-Score: Local X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 128.59.29.5 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Yoav Nir Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:40:37 -0000 A common PPT and Keynote template wouldn't be a bad idea, I think. Maybe = there's a PPT feature that restricts the number of slides, too. On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Keith Moore = wrote: > On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:24 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: >=20 >> I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might = be mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind people two = weeks before the meeting that slides need numbers. >=20 > Or maybe we just need to have so few slides that numbers aren't = needed. >=20 > Actually I think numbers would be a good idea. But I'd also like to = see meeting date, WG name, and Internet-Draft ID on the footer of every = slide. >=20 > Keith >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 From superuser@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 07:41:30 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479C821F9D90 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:41:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.506 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.506 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.093, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id riByajLZc+BG for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x229.google.com (mail-we0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c03::229]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D6AE21F9D4F for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id n5so699308wev.14 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:41:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=fPQJh9tokF9aqsa1CtPurLxfa4vMNj+GlgVYOH0rpus=; b=papNhfj/SG8IPfdJFk0XTZuTS+9EHSPTEZQfyMsae4qprohBtBaJB+QHVfRd86YeJ5 4KirEQRcOdxhpuPM8301fM686q6edDmjXlgG0kGmWX/9POE4afRAxdccZoArNmiHnNMF ehJo2OnOQ7WIv/JNw0b6ospf1sZ2M3DRjJQwvczYYh+hw8V4FvThKYdMGs2WssEuynd2 AmY3PPlkipoJmJOmsnq43ZeIPmWLMne7QUTTOOh3Py+FrMJVf51v9lreUCPKVoTam6KK OEKGLvfOfTyJvbId1/ysrII+aijToECRbqsVeY273wJE+0lGkvU4MB6tfMXoiMvz9q8N 4hrw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.239.225 with SMTP id vv1mr50317360wjc.63.1375281688489; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.125.36 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:41:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F8FEAA.6050709@dcrocker.net> References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> <51F8FEAA.6050709@dcrocker.net> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:41:28 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" To: Dave Crocker Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149338482368704e2cfb807 Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, Leif Johansson Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:41:30 -0000 --089e0149338482368704e2cfb807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: > On 7/31/2013 2:08 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > >> The weather sucked the first day, yet somehow I survived and it >> recovered nicely. >> > > Take a look at the weather report for this week. Friday and Saturday are > again going to be fun. > > Get on it, IAOC! --089e0149338482368704e2cfb807 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocke= r.net> wrote:
On 7/31/2013 2:08 PM, Murr= ay S. Kucherawy wrote:
The weather sucked the first day, yet somehow I survived and it
recovered nicely.

Take a look at the weather report for this week. =A0Friday and Saturday are= again going to be fun.


Get on it, IAOC!
=A0

--089e0149338482368704e2cfb807-- From dhc@dcrocker.net Wed Jul 31 07:45:31 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E6421F9E94 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:45:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xEs5UDG6vNuv for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sbh17.songbird.com (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.17]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB1D21F9D80 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.203] (e178124165.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.178.124.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by sbh17.songbird.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6VEjA75016204 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:45:17 -0700 Message-ID: <51F922F1.8060500@dcrocker.net> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:45:05 +0200 From: Dave Crocker Organization: Brandenburg InternetWorking User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> <51F8FEAA.6050709@dcrocker.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (sbh17.songbird.com [72.52.113.66]); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:45:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: 87 attendees <87attendees@ietf.org>, Dave Crocker , Leif Johansson Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: dcrocker@bbiw.net List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:45:31 -0000 On 7/31/2013 4:41 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Dave Crocker > wrote: > > On 7/31/2013 2:08 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > The weather sucked the first day, yet somehow I survived and it > recovered nicely. > > > Take a look at the weather report for this week. Friday and > Saturday are again going to be fun. > > > Get on it, IAOC! ahem. archaic pointer alert. you directed that at me why? d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net From oej@edvina.net Wed Jul 31 07:47:53 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2205C21F9DF1 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:47:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bA0kLI5lDzov for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp7.webway.se (smtp7.webway.se [IPv6:2a02:920:212e::205]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352A221F9E21 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-1690.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-1690.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.22.144]) by smtp7.webway.se (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 6E31E93C2A2; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:47:49 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: "Olle E. Johansson" In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:47:49 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Yoav Nir X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:47:53 -0000 31 jul 2013 kl. 16:24 skrev Yoav Nir : > I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might = be mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind people two = weeks before the meeting that slides need numbers. It really helps jabber scribes too. /O= From ynir@checkpoint.com Wed Jul 31 07:50:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DC021E808B for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:50:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.513 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.513 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.086, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wubYpyHftq2G for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B86D21F9E94 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DAG-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([194.29.34.150]) by smtp.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6VEoCe5017887; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:50:12 +0300 X-CheckPoint: {51F92424-2B-1B221DC2-1FFFF} Received: from IL-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([169.254.2.105]) by DAG-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([169.254.3.223]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:50:12 +0300 From: Yoav Nir To: "Olle E. Johansson" Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Slide numbers Thread-Index: AQHOjfma0lQDeEOoCkuYtQjjkBt7Fpl+q5yAgAAAqYA= Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:50:12 +0000 Message-ID: <6D4BA9DD-6D7C-4953-A72E-803BCCB12A7E@checkpoint.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.31.20.219] x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: scan successful x-kse-antivirus-info: Clean x-cpdlp: 11d5fc5459e6ce30ba72adb560072592ec6d3bd041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:50:40 -0000 That's what I'm doing right now. On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:47 PM, "Olle E. Johansson" wrote: >=20 > 31 jul 2013 kl. 16:24 skrev Yoav Nir : >=20 >> I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might be = mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind people two weeks befo= re the meeting that slides need numbers. >=20 > It really helps jabber scribes too. From jgunn6@csc.com Wed Jul 31 08:17:43 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D026A21F9CA4; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:17:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.582 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.582 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.016, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4xJBTCctUjsw; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail86.messagelabs.com (mail86.messagelabs.com [216.82.242.179]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA7821F9C78; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:17:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Env-Sender: jgunn6@csc.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-86.messagelabs.com!1375283853!44743592!1 X-Originating-IP: [20.137.2.88] X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 6.9.11; banners=-,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 12780 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2013 15:17:34 -0000 Received: from amer-mta102.csc.com (HELO amer-mta102.csc.com) (20.137.2.88) by server-8.tower-86.messagelabs.com with DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 31 Jul 2013 15:17:34 -0000 Received: from amer-gw09.amer.csc.com (cscmail.csc.com [20.6.39.245]) by amer-mta102.csc.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6VFF7c0008863; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:15:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: To: "<87attendees@ietf.org>"<87attendees@ietf.org>, 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KeepSent: D75992A9:D52A3C2C-85257BB9:0053F697; type=4; name=$KeepSent X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.5.2FP4 SHF97 March 26, 2012 From: Janet P Gunn Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:17:32 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on AMER-GW09/SRV/CSC(Release 8.5.2FP3 HF204|September 20, 2011) at 07/31/2013 11:11:05 AM, Serialize complete at 07/31/2013 11:11:05 AM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 00540FFF85257BB9_=" Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:17:44 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 00540FFF85257BB9_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" . 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org wrote on 07/31/2013 10:47:49 AM: > From: "Olle E. 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87attendees-bounces@ietf.org wrote on 07/31/2013 10:47:49 AM:

> From: "Olle E. Johansson" <oej@edvina.net>
> To: Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com>
> Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>
> Date: 07/31/2013 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers
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> 31 jul 2013 kl. 16:24 skrev Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com>:
>
> > I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers.
> Might be mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind
> people two weeks before the meeting that slides need numbers.
>
> It really helps jabber scribes too.
>
> /O

AND remote attendees
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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:24:51 -0000 On 07/31/2013 04:10 PM, Simon Perreault wrote: > Le 2013-07-31 15:57, Randall Gellens a écrit : >> At 1:14 PM +0200 7/31/13, Scott Brim wrote: >> >>> In this crowd, there's no need for the 2. We can recognize binary >>> when >>> we encounter it. >> >> I didn't get that the 2 meant binary...I'm not used to doing it that >> way. A preceding character, sure. Single tick marks enclosing, sure. >> Subscripts? Not so much. > > It's common math notation. > > http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Base.html It was the way we did it back before the world all became hex. Doing things like base 12 was always fun. 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Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derek Atkins References: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A520599@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> <1375288604.6717.3.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1375288604.6717.3.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Scott Brim Subject: Re: [87attendees] Orlando subnet X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:38:41 -0000 On 31/07/13 18:36, Derek Atkins wrote: > On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 09:32 -0700, Scott Brim wrote: >> Tonight my phone is giving me the weather for Orlando. > Repeat after me: GeoLocation Sucks. > > The databases don't understand how to deal with networks like ours that > move around the world. > > -derek > > same here. ------------------------------------------ Åukasz Budzisz, Ph.D. Research Fellow Technische Universität Berlin (TU Berlin) Telecommunication Networks Group Tel: +49 30 314 23836 ------------------------------------------ From akalin@google.com Wed Jul 31 09:53:33 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADC321F9DF6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; 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Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.249.199 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:53:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:53:29 +0200 Message-ID: From: Fred Akalin To: Matthias Waehlisch Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc87beab8a0e04e2d190e8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl9OD8M2BAx+MnpMq9X8P/x+fVM/YG6xlZZUREzCXka9/reX0SLoGzeoT0MYe5sSXpUxWdQ3G4jpynxya9Y9LuWlgKJh0RFJZMbDjz3c4v3M2yVvyOX/7NY5nYyqF3DIU+nwdrEL4zuUyN4Ea/ajksVgvHGbdXBbi/h9n39ZBbV9j82UHQVd5+46VU+zxjZ9hy7Zx+a Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Fred Akalin Subject: Re: [87attendees] Places in Berlin to practice the piano X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:53:33 -0000 --047d7bdc87beab8a0e04e2d190e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Matthias, Thanks! This worked out perfectly. I wish I had such access to Steinway concert grands at home. :) -- Fred On Saturday, July 27, 2013, Matthias Waehlisch wrote: > Hi Fred, > > see http://www.steinway-berlin.de/klavierangebote/studio > > They are located L=C3=BCtzowufer 28/ Ecke Keithstra=C3=9Fe, which is no= t far > away from the IETF venue. > > For 11 EUR/hour, you can play on a grand piano (Model D-274). > > You can make a reservation via 030 315 731 14. > > > Cheers > matthias > > > -- > Matthias Waehlisch > . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST > . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany > .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. > http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl > :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net > > On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Fred Akalin wrote: > > > Hey all, > > > > Does anyone know a place in Berlin where one might be able to practice > on a > > piano, perhaps at a price? > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- Fred > > --047d7bdc87beab8a0e04e2d190e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Matthias,

Thanks! This worked out perfectly. I wis= h I had such access to Steinway concert grands at home. :)

-- Fred

On Saturday, July 27, 2013, Matthias W= aehlisch wrote:
Hi Fred,

=C2=A0 see http://www.steinway-berlin.de/klavierangebote/studio=

=C2=A0 They are located L=C3=BCtzowufer 28/ Ecke Keithstra=C3=9Fe, which is= not far
away from the IETF venue.

=C2=A0 For 11 EUR/hour, you can play on a grand piano (Model D-274).

=C2=A0 You can make a reservation via 030 315 731 14.


Cheers
=C2=A0 matthias


--
Matthias Waehlisch
. =C2=A0Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST
. =C2=A0Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany
.. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~wa= ehl
:. Also: http:= //inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Fred Akalin wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Does anyone know a place in Berlin where one might be able to practice= on a
> piano, perhaps at a price?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Fred
>
--047d7bdc87beab8a0e04e2d190e8-- From paitken@cisco.com Wed Jul 31 09:56:55 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC0721F85C9 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:56:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.46 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.46 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.138, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1S+MP4jB9jwv for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-4.cisco.com (ams-iport-4.cisco.com [144.254.224.147]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20FA11E8196 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:56:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3412; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1375289771; x=1376499371; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:cc:subject: references:in-reply-to; bh=m5kHUTvkp3z1EsDLGovzOlwfJ/68PiuPqQN9ruoUGZQ=; b=dhnUi9LO6knFt/Ch0JP6lVD5/K6JyL5Z2oUBS8yK5ZVOwY5jB1XchI0x 77ifNChn36Q7f9ZxDM0tOWqhAWmhoCIzFWYH2Dl2+lLcoUQu21PdA1HM9 t3xH6yftjHjrjedZ2czgTOFB/N+BUt00sSAgrMlnAJ2wMV7La62+TIUYI o=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AikFAPpA+VGQ/khN/2dsb2JhbABbDoJ4Nok8tTSBGRZ0giQBAQEDAXgBBQsLBAoTFg8JAwIBAgFFBg0BBwEBF4dvBrkrjkkQgS4HhAsDl1+GI4sqglY/gWc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,788,1367971200"; d="scan'208,217";a="16666745" Received: from ams-core-4.cisco.com ([144.254.72.77]) by ams-iport-4.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 16:56:10 +0000 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.70.36]) by ams-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6VGu8oZ008853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:56:08 GMT Received: from [10.61.169.133] ([10.61.169.133]) by cisco.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id r6VGu7aj004833; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:56:07 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <51F941A7.9010104@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:56:07 +0100 From: Paul Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Brim References: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A520599@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A520599@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020103040604060504040900" Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Orlando subnet X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:56:56 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020103040604060504040900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott, > Tonight my phone is giving me the weather for Orlando. I've had a noc ticket on this already: Comment: The issue we have with the geolocation services is two-fold in that the data used to Geolocate an advertised network is collected intermittently, and that it is viewed as an aggregate. It's the same problem we see at NANOG and ICANN (and really any network that advertises public space and moves around). We've had limited success with communicating our hardware addresses to the Skyhook service in advance of an event (I did this with NANOG), and with attempting to alert other GL providers like Google. So yes, it is going to show you as being in Orlando, and it's probably going to show you as being in Berlin while we are in Vancouver this fall. It's been an ongoing process with the providers and at this point, no resolution exists. We are working on a solution in which we start advertising our IP space well in advance of the meeting using a Linux box that pushes traffic occasionally (just advertising doesn't work/the services require traffic to update GL), but this solution is still just on paper. Sorry for any trouble this has caused. P. --------------020103040604060504040900 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Scott,

Tonight my phone is giving me the weather for Orlando.

I've had a noc ticket on this already:

Comment:
The issue we have with the geolocation services is two-fold in that the data used to Geolocate an advertised network is collected intermittently, and that it is viewed as an aggregate. It's the same problem we see at NANOG and ICANN (and really any network that advertises public space and moves around). We've had limited success with communicating our hardware addresses to the Skyhook service in advance of an event (I did this with NANOG), and with attempting to alert other GL providers like Google.
So yes, it is going to show you as being in Orlando, and it's probably going to show you as being in Berlin while we are in Vancouver this fall. It's been an ongoing process with the providers and at this point, no resolution exists. We are working on a solution in which we start advertising our IP space well in advance of the meeting using a Linux box that pushes traffic occasionally (just advertising doesn't work/the services require traffic to update GL), but this solution is still just on paper. Sorry for any trouble this has caused.

P.
--------------020103040604060504040900-- From swb@internet2.edu Wed Jul 31 10:04:30 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 622AF21F99F8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:04:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.467 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.467 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.132, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gkjCSsLOQcDv for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co9outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (co9ehsobe003.messaging.microsoft.com [207.46.163.26]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A51821F9654 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail189-co9-R.bigfish.com (10.236.132.226) by CO9EHSOBE033.bigfish.com (10.236.130.96) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:04:07 +0000 Received: from mail189-co9 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail189-co9-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0371520219; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:04:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:157.56.245.149; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:CH1PRD0810HT005.namprd08.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: 14 X-BigFish: S14(z569dhzda00hdc73hzz1f42h1d77h208ch1ee6h1de0h1fdah2073h1202h1e76h1d1ah1d2ah1fc6h1082kzzz2dh2a8h668h839h944hd25hf0ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh15d0h162dh1631h1758h18e1h1946h19b5h1ad9h1b0ah1d07h1d0ch1d2eh1d3fh1de9h1dfeh1dffh1e1dh1deas1155h) Received: from mail189-co9 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail189-co9 (MessageSwitch) id 1375290245935400_28051; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO9EHSMHS027.bigfish.com (unknown [10.236.132.231]) by mail189-co9.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A6B500047; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1PRD0810HT005.namprd08.prod.outlook.com (157.56.245.149) by CO9EHSMHS027.bigfish.com (10.236.130.37) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:04:05 +0000 Received: from CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.11.105]) by CH1PRD0810HT005.namprd08.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.145.168]) with mapi id 14.16.0341.000; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:04:04 +0000 From: Scott Brim To: Paul Aitken Thread-Topic: Orlando subnet Thread-Index: AQHOjg7i0MiI3TVFzkyDlIq4PwDO3pl/A80P Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:04:04 +0000 Message-ID: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A52061F@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> References: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A520599@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> <51F941A7.9010104@cisco.com> In-Reply-To: <51F941A7.9010104@cisco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.255.91.132] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: internet2.edu X-FOPE-CONNECTOR: Id%0$Dn%*$RO%0$TLS%0$FQDN%$TlsDn% Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Orlando subnet X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:04:30 -0000 Please don't work too hard on fixing it. I enjoy that the IETF ghosts aroun= d the world. =0A= =0A= From paitken@cisco.com Wed Jul 31 10:08:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E0721E808B for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:08:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.466 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.466 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.132, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J+EYIGmp5TTm for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ams-iport-3.cisco.com (ams-iport-3.cisco.com [144.254.224.146]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A907E21F992E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:08:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5288; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1375290489; x=1376500089; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references: in-reply-to; bh=aS0utwxSpWQNGzX4UfEBMXt/MPIHfSdp+WgUNQUIU7U=; b=gLKEhQbvj5rOMOA2YK1uUUVsB1NUnW2oLRv5Ct3vf/UZiUIV0ZwebeMS XNi7CHMYjUwPQGpFTaZGTj2q+qaMdtzF8uWkpF5CfIqNTyTLN428gUCs3 NdtUyVokVduiGsWEZstIkzfbQ8zYx+dtJZS7vlljbqt4GrGY5wKv31y+r U=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AioFAKxD+VGQ/khL/2dsb2JhbABbgwY1AYk8tTSBGRZ0giQBAQEDAQEBAWsKBgsLEQMBAgEJFg8JAwIBAgEVKAgGDQYCAQGIBgYMuRQEj3YYhAsDl1+GI4sqgxU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,729,1367971200"; d="scan'208,217";a="16192268" Received: from ams-core-2.cisco.com ([144.254.72.75]) by ams-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 17:08:08 +0000 Received: from cisco.com (mrwint.cisco.com [64.103.70.36]) by ams-core-2.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6VH85jm013781 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:08:05 GMT Received: from [10.61.169.133] ([10.61.169.133]) by cisco.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id r6VH84a8005751 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:08:04 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <51F94474.4000105@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:08:04 +0100 From: Paul Aitken User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130623 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020904040307040307050803" Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:08:22 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020904040307040307050803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have some spare slide numbers that I didn't use, if anyone needs any. I could exchange them over a breakfast that I'm borrowing from someone who went the laundry... P. On 31/07/13 16:17, Janet P Gunn wrote: > > > . > > 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org wrote on 07/31/2013 10:47:49 AM: > > > From: "Olle E. Johansson" > > To: Yoav Nir > > Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> > > Date: 07/31/2013 10:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers > > Sent by: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > > > > > 31 jul 2013 kl. 16:24 skrev Yoav Nir : > > > > > I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. > > Might be mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind > > people two weeks before the meeting that slides need numbers. > > > > It really helps jabber scribes too. > > > > /O > > AND remote attendees > Janet > > _______________________________________________ > > 87attendees mailing list > > 87attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --------------020904040307040307050803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have some spare slide numbers that I didn't use, if anyone needs any.

I could exchange them over a breakfast that I'm borrowing from someone who went the laundry...

P.


On 31/07/13 16:17, Janet P Gunn wrote:


.

87attendees-bounces@ietf.org wrote on 07/31/2013 10:47:49 AM:

> From: "Olle E. Johansson" <oej@edvina.net>
> To: Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com>
> Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>
> Date: 07/31/2013 10:48 AM
> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers
> Sent by: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org
>
>
> 31 jul 2013 kl. 16:24 skrev Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com>:
>
> > I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers.
> Might be mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind
> people two weeks before the meeting that slides need numbers.
>
> It really helps jabber scribes too.
>
> /O

AND remote attendees
Janet
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> 87attendees@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees
 

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--------------020904040307040307050803-- From pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu Wed Jul 31 10:13:18 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F4021F9B57 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:13:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.394 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.394 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6Cm9tVHg9B4a for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe2d:43:76:96:30:48]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5599021F9B30 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 74Xu1m0070FhH24A55DC77; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:13:12 +0000 Received: from dhcp-4066.meeting.ietf.org ([130.129.64.102]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 75B11m0032CN8kq8U5B3Zv; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:11:10 +0000 Message-ID: <51F94524.1000709@alum.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:11:00 +0200 From: Paul Kyzivat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Moskowitz References: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077523A20F@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51F8FA0B.5060207@alum.mit.edu> <51F90F42.7030608@labs.htt-consult.com> In-Reply-To: <51F90F42.7030608@labs.htt-consult.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1375290792; bh=ICX6GT7K/T+X8gWVU/pH+IvY5fNwX7ysgdvC8Hf07gA=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=Qc7sNKvp64L9zNhg+DfAZTBXEwg2AGzgmRq2SKVdGOL+feowjG4SMNFkd7HkwMHnJ Ogj75AwIfLX6H4CvULkjpSicVkKSzDxQahP5pYdfvBkozkNCUzB5yGgXMmfURcqQYQ lG4XsVQAsJ31sLUkHB3fepcweYGealho7DIh5NvbCR7ww+o4VTKJBEgGf0+Qy4EjxU 230hbLf8TphKe3Kbay7LzfXP6f0ouqGuNi3/lAHpfgyscGmFPGYtGzJV4h/ORZBXWt ZvAMy5ZFxQmcEQpUWehfzMKm+mHi3FqOBz5+yT+SbigvZl8qmjaO4FKZwX+rPya0EO OlCpYYn1sIrMA== Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:13:18 -0000 On 7/31/13 3:21 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Then there were those of us that worked with 60-bit words. Much better > for things like Linear Programming and such..,,, I have experience with 12, 16, 24, 32, 36, 48, 60, 64 bit words. And with 7,8,9 bit characters. But IMO the 5 7-bit characters per 36 bit words was the weirdest. 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[130.129.37.46]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hb2sm36594622wib.0.2013.07.31.10.14.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A520599@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:14:16 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <35FA6798-D006-4292-854E-926298F9D0C7@gmail.com> References: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A520599@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.prod.outlook.com> To: Scott Brim X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Bob Hinden Subject: Re: [87attendees] Orlando subnet X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:14:26 -0000 On Jul 31, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Scott Brim wrote: > Tonight my phone is giving me the weather for Orlando. > http://www.iplocation.net This shows us as being in Czech Republic and San Francisco. Bob From pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu Wed Jul 31 10:17:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3722E21F9FFF for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:17:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.397 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.397 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.040, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N6PSn1DWN-Ww for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe2d:43:76:96:30:56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB5021F9E0B for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 73kB1m0071ZMdJ4A65GtAJ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:16:53 +0000 Received: from dhcp-4066.meeting.ietf.org ([130.129.64.102]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 75Ej1m00h2CN8kq8c5EmJt; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:14:51 +0000 Message-ID: <51F94603.9040105@alum.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:14:43 +0200 From: Paul Kyzivat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077523A20F@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> <51F8FA0B.5060207@alum.mit.edu> <51F90F42.7030608@labs.htt-consult.com> <51F94524.1000709@alum.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <51F94524.1000709@alum.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1375291013; bh=WS8u/lTOPSYK3GWuuga3K3sqGOvOrKW9K9B/q3pQGeM=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=SF85f2CNsrHV7SYuIwM6hl0SYTeEdBc+4tiC2gyX6/UHzncmJJws6nfEzulhK06wK qAq+A5Rakmbwe2/18HSF+CCBW1QehfRQC73cyz1q2urEqWaTugExlVMu6w5dUKi3uA AHx4y1pLZymyZnJ7til+9eGchSiVbLXiEk0ueT9TM0qetCjz8jxxXtXyTT1BXrFm+y h3VLrUr8lwywNB9e9ZZDoYnsBzpzTThwlWej4GxKINUEaiUBewhW9f5C+jhuhKaBdT IuFlICm58vcJUt83cSFB4+Lvri+IVGQa3PF+fJwUHn0qzzyklqng8l/S6l5I3du6Ik HdCY2nO4mde/Q== Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:17:21 -0000 Revised list - I forgot some... On 7/31/13 7:11 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > On 7/31/13 3:21 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> Then there were those of us that worked with 60-bit words. Much better >> for things like Linear Programming and such..,,, > > I have experience with 12, 16, 24, 32, 36, 48, 60, 64 bit words. 12, 16, 18, 20, 24, 32, 36, 48, 60, 64 bit words. From pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu Wed Jul 31 10:22:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FCF11E8167 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:22:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.4 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.038, BAYES_00=-2.599, FH_RELAY_NODNS=1.451, HELO_MISMATCH_NET=0.611, RDNS_NONE=0.1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yCC1G94e2P-X for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe2d:43:76:96:30:24]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E20E21F9A87 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 75JF1m0041wfjNsA25NHLn; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:22:17 +0000 Received: from dhcp-4066.meeting.ietf.org ([130.129.64.102]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 75L71m00b2CN8kq8j5LA0N; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:20:15 +0000 Message-ID: <51F94746.8020201@alum.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:20:06 +0200 From: Paul Kyzivat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <7DC77680-39CC-493D-9350-5EBABDE41BCA@network-heretics.com> In-Reply-To: <7DC77680-39CC-493D-9350-5EBABDE41BCA@network-heretics.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20121106; t=1375291337; bh=CcMarBge3fAdyDb9vPpcQ6FDKSc7e2Z6ikCwbKaKH6M=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=ivEs9P2yVDeI9a3bqEzLHV4WhpKBzvaaG8kwApCMattu55MZpwHK3m49VTpIcM29s y0VGSmas+JGUxtHxW2JVNE93D8qbD2Tg4S8ySfSdzDMZhNgd71UWjsTdJtz/XIQ0sB +wNqtdbC5uLWLyj/2TICsp1LyDZ5YPFpiRWK8A3/6d3x43DwADj/iw+9eU+PcMAGv1 PNxIavCEGGnc741kFDByVtToJjAhQ3ENCLVTeT7C3xsyvrYi1kZg/uw2mJ6+w/CAPN Vl1ms0qNXLvBW495YYbCQF1WTDzA+ie2ZZRO5bD5ZbO2kuD8Ch1xpHRrTFdBm56Go7 kuNEZz1LBc+0A== Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:22:23 -0000 On 7/31/13 4:28 PM, Keith Moore wrote: > Actually I think numbers would be a good idea. But I'd also like to see meeting date, WG name, and Internet-Draft ID on the footer of every slide. IMO, slide #, draft id (when applicable), and presenter name are *essential*, especially for note takers. Often the title slide with that other info is gone much too quickly to capture when taking notes if you aren't intimately familiar with the drafts & topics & presenters. Thanks, Paul From oej@edvina.net Wed Jul 31 10:23:47 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CC621E80C8 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:23:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.305 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.305 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.294, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id y-2c22xgc15W for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp7.webway.se (smtp7.webway.se [IPv6:2a02:920:212e::205]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB92611E819F for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::16:4578:df99:4e95:58f7] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:16:4578:df99:4e95:58f7]) by smtp7.webway.se (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A9D9293C1AF; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_30DE5E2D-B84E-45D9-8F66-F0DAE5E0B0CE" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: "Olle E. Johansson" In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:22:59 +0200 Message-Id: <9FF8E63D-A77F-45A7-8BDB-501B1141A0A6@edvina.net> References: To: Fred Akalin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Matthias Waehlisch , Fred Akalin Subject: Re: [87attendees] Places in Berlin to practice the piano X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 17:23:47 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_30DE5E2D-B84E-45D9-8F66-F0DAE5E0B0CE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Steinway seems to have a sales office just a few blocks away on the = river. /O 31 jul 2013 kl. 18:53 skrev Fred Akalin : > Hello Matthias, >=20 > Thanks! This worked out perfectly. I wish I had such access to = Steinway concert grands at home. :) >=20 > -- Fred >=20 > On Saturday, July 27, 2013, Matthias Waehlisch wrote: > Hi Fred, >=20 > see http://www.steinway-berlin.de/klavierangebote/studio >=20 > They are located L=FCtzowufer 28/ Ecke Keithstra=DFe, which is not = far > away from the IETF venue. >=20 > For 11 EUR/hour, you can play on a grand piano (Model D-274). >=20 > You can make a reservation via 030 315 731 14. >=20 >=20 > Cheers > matthias >=20 >=20 > -- > Matthias Waehlisch > . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST > . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany > .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl > :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net >=20 > On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Fred Akalin wrote: >=20 > > Hey all, > > > > Does anyone know a place in Berlin where one might be able to = practice on a > > piano, perhaps at a price? > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- Fred > > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --- * Olle E Johansson - oej@edvina.net * Cell phone +46 70 593 68 51, Office +46 8 96 40 20, Sweden --Apple-Mail=_30DE5E2D-B84E-45D9-8F66-F0DAE5E0B0CE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 akalin@google.com>:

Hello = Matthias,

Thanks! This worked out perfectly. I wish I = had such access to Steinway concert grands at home. = :)

-- Fred

On Saturday, = July 27, 2013, Matthias Waehlisch wrote:
Hi Fred,

  see http://www.steinway-berlin.de/klavierangebote/studio=

  They are located L=FCtzowufer 28/ Ecke Keithstra=DFe, which is = not far
away from the IETF venue.

  For 11 EUR/hour, you can play on a grand piano (Model D-274).

  You can make a reservation via 030 315 731 14.


Cheers
  matthias


--
Matthias Waehlisch
.  Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST
.  Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany
.. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl
:. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Fred Akalin wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Does anyone know a place in Berlin where one might be able to = practice on a
> piano, perhaps at a price?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Fred
>
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= --Apple-Mail=_30DE5E2D-B84E-45D9-8F66-F0DAE5E0B0CE-- From carlos@lacnic.net Wed Jul 31 11:29:40 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D02E21F9E68 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:29:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.741 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.741 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.74, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yNuRNBFlVICU for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A1121F9E54 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 11:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:df8::64:b8c8:8b78:1649:f849] (unknown [IPv6:2001:df8:0:64:b8c8:8b78:1649:f849]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0974B308495 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:29:16 -0300 (UYT) From: "Carlos M. Martinez" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <835B35D1-B608-432F-8A10-E15569E8F570@lacnic.net> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:29:35 +0200 To: 87attendees@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-LACNIC.uy-MailScanner-From: carlos@lacnic.net Subject: [87attendees] The dramatic impact ... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:29:40 -0000 =85 of packet size in relation to throughput was noted by the hotel = staff, so they wisely substituted 0.2something coke bottles with 0.5l = ones. Ahhh, much better ! I echo the comments on the mic. Berlin has (and still is!) a wonderful = and very enjoyable venue. cheers! ~Carlos= From vinayakh@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 12:36:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A0921F9EE0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:36:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.549 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.549 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.050, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J0P1WxyqjLKI for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x22e.google.com (mail-pd0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22e]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5EE21F9EDB for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 10so1129858pdc.33 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:36:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Dk1X5e+GP5EkEjwAS9s9WrtKS/Tq4EppYPHUatAemSM=; b=VVLVnHrw4PAEcQvpTj8A4RuIV5PeiQji9CudskOQe101Mg44fnINjMed+amYpMLnop Tb6QA33Dp6inD4OfCYe29dvDUm+SsM9YlsFm+ZlA5yoJdxr+VPRF4NvrFyd0obIlVA5c iZNYv1EOerrIXwcumJO8y6k8m3fyZyBQa9tcbBQa7h4fmxXt05dZVw0PKHc98MNGjd7L B5uapOhsXhYSOuwAIsQXVHCZEtLtgo+LizyNZ4zpb1GBvo2LE84zmXqdo8rb4O0QUIpn soTH5n95guHdarTFU1QOjDipz/5vhqp+BgU65hATPy/O5Yr7ujYOndHcSbBT5WRZOhGt z4mQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.69.10.129 with SMTP id ea1mr81989471pbd.107.1375299360634; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.100.226 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:36:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 01:06:00 +0530 Message-ID: From: Vinayak Hegde To: Yoav Nir Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6721f4d9bccb04e2d3d5db Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:36:04 -0000 --047d7b6721f4d9bccb04e2d3d5db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am surprised that many people here do not use Latex-beamer to prepare their slides. It does a whole bunch of things such as add a table of contents, headers, footers and slides numbers on every slides. The initial learning curve is steep but gets gentle pretty fast. -- Vinayak On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Yoav Nir wrote: > I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might be > mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind people two weeks > before the meeting that slides need numbers. > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > --047d7b6721f4d9bccb04e2d3d5db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am surprised that many people here do not use Latex-beamer to prepare the= ir slides. It does a whole bunch of things such as add a table of contents,= headers, footers and slides numbers on every slides. The initial learning = curve is steep but gets gentle pretty fast.

-- Vinayak

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:= 54 PM, Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com> wrote:
I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might be= mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind people two weeks bef= ore the meeting that slides need numbers.

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--047d7b6721f4d9bccb04e2d3d5db-- From tsenevir@cisco.com Wed Jul 31 12:39:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CC311E80D2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:39:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BG9Mdm-4sp0j for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com [173.37.86.78]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B44221F9D11 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:39:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=5564; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1375299576; x=1376509176; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=idzlnzIMTphIjjFmyJrWH5LTzTrKGEK6xvaiOu5DOuI=; b=h41pUD8FCeSwRTxUYqzNXyCZj1nPWhnB+/MCWgFu4Oscv5WVtWM55Gxb IBXRr9zeoXeCpln/RZtAUsY8FfQ69sK5zTn7c9xRnYEpl1YmZoaeVmao9 1rt9wxfrUcTG3Q4nMQqbEzBK2YJLfVV43yHCAneq8PgftYexx5fRwDn/J c=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiwFAPlm+VGtJXG8/2dsb2JhbABbgkJENVC+KIEZFnSCJAEBAQQBAQEqQAELEAIBCBEEAQELHQcnCxQJCAIEAQ0FCIgIDLkoBI9WLQQGAYMYcwOpLIMUgio X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,789,1367971200"; d="scan'208,217";a="241906021" Received: from rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com ([173.37.113.188]) by rcdn-iport-7.cisco.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 19:39:33 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x15.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x15.cisco.com [173.37.183.89]) by rcdn-core2-1.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r6VJdXpp022124 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:39:33 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x08.cisco.com ([169.254.8.40]) by xhc-rcd-x15.cisco.com ([173.37.183.89]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:39:32 -0500 From: "Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)" To: Vinayak Hegde , Yoav Nir Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Slide numbers Thread-Index: AQHOjfma0lQDeEOoCkuYtQjjkBt7Fpl/gj0A//+ss6A= Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:39:32 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.21.166.161] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_FBEA3E19AA24F847BA3AE74E2FE193562ADDC729xmbrcdx08ciscoc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:39:41 -0000 --_000_FBEA3E19AA24F847BA3AE74E2FE193562ADDC729xmbrcdx08ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I thought MS PPT do the same thing as well when setup correctly, I think it= is more of how you use it than the tool in itself right ? From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On= Behalf Of Vinayak Hegde Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:36 PM To: Yoav Nir Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers I am surprised that many people here do not use Latex-beamer to prepare the= ir slides. It does a whole bunch of things such as add a table of contents,= headers, footers and slides numbers on every slides. The initial learning = curve is steep but gets gentle pretty fast. -- Vinayak On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Yoav Nir > wrote: I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might be mos= tly too late now, but we should remember to remind people two weeks before = the meeting that slides need numbers. _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --_000_FBEA3E19AA24F847BA3AE74E2FE193562ADDC729xmbrcdx08ciscoc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I thought MS PPT do the s= ame thing as well when setup correctly, I think it is more of how you use i= t than the tool in itself right ?

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From: 87attend= ees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vinayak Hegde
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:36 PM
To: Yoav Nir
Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers

 

I am surprised that m= any people here do not use Latex-beamer to prepare their slides. It does a = whole bunch of things such as add a table of contents, headers, footers and= slides numbers on every slides. The initial learning curve is steep but gets gentle pretty fast.

-- Vinayak

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com&= gt; wrote:

I've seen way too many slides this week with no slid= e numbers. Might be mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind p= eople two weeks before the meeting that slides need numbers.

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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:43:12 -0000 At 1:50 PM +0200 7/31/13, Paul Kyzivat wrote: >>> You can fit five of them in a 36-bit word, with a bit left over. >>> It's a big win. > > You can sort people by age based on whether they know this. I used to develop O.S. software on a system that could fit eight 6-bit characters or six 8-bit characters in each (48-bit) word. Everyone had a favorite hex pattern to fill initialized data that jumped out at you on a dump, and with 16 hexades you could more opportunity to spell things or make interesting patterns. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- I always avoid prophesying beforehand, because it is a much better policy to prophesy after the event has already taken place. --Winston Churchill From vinayakh@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 12:44:54 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6651C21E8089 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:44:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.556 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.556 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.043, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sxQ4aC1OODrD for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-x234.google.com (mail-pb0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8224421E80A7 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id wz12so1159913pbc.25 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:44:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HkEAjPMCMpk19+RFxOA8lZvwBBR/w3Cu/H5s687x0eA=; b=brLChnsjS3TJoMUmw1Tk+Z3h6AX+DZvgSuZ8XYjVfzrBYFD1OxB14wfHxEOcvsx3lg /yufP5M3dJKs5RRPoAZGfZsJfZXiGaNRaPk18fZJwqfI//uzccydf6A47pagW57G2xgO HgzltbaW9ly38UPARf6CnfI37il2T4g9hegf/1V9m3FKiy7tIhAMWXeuHt8Q2xtN8dxe mJhgbSYP9tt65/gCEhNrwhyALSkBHyEr72vKETQtX5oY5SC1qiUO5qdHqVkbVb143+sR ATasdtiaaoT0adE5vwHTjZkrxO/SeA24Ap5lxjrgj1ONsSw/Q1Hzf17bgsXo203exhqr 19AQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.232.73 with SMTP id tm9mr59557671pac.159.1375299893277; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.100.226 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:44:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 01:14:53 +0530 Message-ID: From: Vinayak Hegde To: "Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b111d0d993b5b04e2d3f53e Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Yoav Nir Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:44:54 -0000 --047d7b111d0d993b5b04e2d3f53e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah I am sure a whole bunch of tools do it. But I like latex beamer / Pandoc etc as it is easy to convert into different formats easy (for the web / printing / mobile device viewing). -- Vinayak On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir) < tsenevir@cisco.com> wrote: > I thought MS PPT do the same thing as well when setup correctly, I think > it is more of how you use it than the tool in itself right ?**** > > ** ** > > *From:* 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > *On Behalf Of *Vinayak Hegde > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:36 PM > *To:* Yoav Nir > *Cc:* <87attendees@ietf.org> > > *Subject:* Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers**** > > ** ** > > I am surprised that many people here do not use Latex-beamer to prepare > their slides. It does a whole bunch of things such as add a table of > contents, headers, footers and slides numbers on every slides. The initial > learning curve is steep but gets gentle pretty fast. > > -- Vinayak**** > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Yoav Nir wrote:**** > > I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might be > mostly too late now, but we should remember to remind people two weeks > before the meeting that slides need numbers. > > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees**** > > ** ** > --047d7b111d0d993b5b04e2d3f53e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah I am sure a whole bunch of tools do it. But I like latex beamer / Pand= oc etc as it is easy to convert into different formats easy (for the web / = printing / mobile device viewing).

-- Vinayak

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir) <tsenevir@c= isco.com> wrote:

I thought MS PPT do the s= ame thing as well when setup correctly, I think it is more of how you use i= t than the tool in itself right ?

=A0<= /p>

From: 87attendees-boun= ces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vinayak Hegde
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:36 PM
To: Yoav Nir
Cc: <87= attendees@ietf.org>


Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers

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I am surprised that m= any people here do not use Latex-beamer to prepare their slides. It does a = whole bunch of things such as add a table of contents, headers, footers and= slides numbers on every slides. The initial learning curve is steep but gets gentle pretty fast.

-- Vinayak

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com&= gt; wrote:

I've seen way too many slides this week with no = slide numbers. Might be mostly too late now, but we should remember to remi= nd people two weeks before the meeting that slides need numbers.

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--047d7b111d0d993b5b04e2d3f53e-- From vinayakh@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 12:48:04 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 054B121E80A7 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:48:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.729 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.729 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.795, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id m1vvQo3sPgms for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-x236.google.com (mail-pa0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDAF21E8093 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id kx1so1249687pab.41 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:47:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OlqyEibQNmghxWsL/bQCDZzygVCKDnd15LqtBBd63ts=; b=y6GlbmsFBdS1I1Drr0lrdlWNk2Av6vXaucO6asvBGZsRdIqfG4UAgKuD/BcqiJJ2+b Gab1W+OrZhny/HQUbGFaVJc5nHyfl8gcCRfSTgOGht+Cs3AQY0UNTQSCgXqalXc4M2VJ ypqVlDcW3d3VRere2FRNkmv8ytSYhcVfGkHHZTeUOICho+XCWEKAKU/gX5hA0y38C02g 0Obd7Kv5GWCYuWJNamN3t/h0qkFSD7YtHnN3lh1ctIcOpIBPyxj1Z1UmO9JDwYNWkZeb DusImdy5mfzNMp7IlMxQLUr146SyU0uFVNX1DADJA2t2pufzRjsYOrAIf7FAf3Fak0er +3Lg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.171.194 with SMTP id aw2mr82131311pbc.197.1375300064869; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.100.226 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:47:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51F8F178.8030301@internet2.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 01:17:44 +0530 Message-ID: From: Vinayak Hegde To: Randall Gellens Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b86f7c8d3881204e2d3ff24 Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Scott Brim , paul.hoffman@vpnc.org, R.Jesske@telekom.de Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:48:04 -0000 --047d7b86f7c8d3881204e2d3ff24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 This discussion (especially having 2 at the end) reminds me of this geeky joke "There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't" :) -- Vinayak On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 1:14 PM +0200 7/31/13, Scott Brim wrote: > > In this crowd, there's no need for the 2. We can recognize binary when >> we encounter it. >> > > I didn't get that the 2 meant binary...I'm not used to doing it that way. > A preceding character, sure. Single tick marks enclosing, sure. > Subscripts? Not so much. > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > Cabbage: A familiar kitchen-garden vegetable about as large and wise > as a man's head. > > ______________________________**_________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/87attendees > --047d7b86f7c8d3881204e2d3ff24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This discussion (especially having 2 at the end) reminds me of this geeky j= oke "There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand = binary and those who don't" :)

-- Vinayak

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Randall Gellens <randy@qti.qualcomm.= com> wrote:
At 1:14 PM +0200 7/31/13, Scott Brim wrote:

=A0In this crowd, there's no need for the 2. =A0We can recognize binary= when
=A0we encounter it.

I didn't get that the 2 meant binary...I'm not used to doing it tha= t way. =A0A preceding character, sure. =A0Single tick marks enclosing, sure= . =A0Subscripts? =A0Not so much.

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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:56:18 -0000 At 4:10 PM +0200 7/31/13, Simon Perreault wrote: >> I didn't get that the 2 meant binary...I'm not used to doing it that >> way. A preceding character, sure. Single tick marks enclosing, sure. >> Subscripts? Not so much. > > It's common math notation. Sure, back in school. 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Any attempt to restrict the number of slides is likely to cause people to create slides with no margins, small fonts, and lots and lots of text. Maybe you want to restrict the number of characters? Or words, as in letters to the editor? -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- He who would travel happily must travel light. --Antoine St. Exuperey From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Wed Jul 31 12:56:23 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6BE21F9BB6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:56:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZDHhNcwZTdA7 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabertooth02.qualcomm.com (sabertooth02.qualcomm.com [65.197.215.38]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6195A21F9A97 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:56:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1375300578; x=1406836578; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:cc:content-type; bh=yZx08mJSKXbQWy49MaIJfwb5ZIL0Z1vyc/ISzllhvxo=; b=M8QPlet8676IUofXBtkGpS9j5fnhJGydRS1G2wBW8PHb8hiXctBKI+w2 xFjFRnYENMV+o8Lrnjv22j0l6SRmn/BFue6gTfqSGgW4pQvGMozac+UAM 170nOkXYfUiU2XEJqoUOpZa7Dn1nK4Olwx5JNHhKhe19lMSDtzABFJhz9 I=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,789,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="48671249" Received: from ironmsg02-r.qualcomm.com ([172.30.46.16]) by sabertooth02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 12:56:18 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,789,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="86782287" Received: from warlock.qualcomm.com ([129.46.50.49]) by ironmsg02-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 31 Jul 2013 12:56:18 -0700 Received: from Ironmsg04-R.qualcomm.com (ironmsg04-R.qualcomm.com [172.30.46.18]) by warlock.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id r6VJuFN5011686 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:56:18 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,789,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="576931743" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.35.200.44]) ([10.64.198.50]) by Ironmsg04-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 12:56:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1375288604.6717.3.camel@localhost> References: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A520599@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.pro d.outlook.com> <1375288604.6717.3.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:47:56 -0700 To: Derek Atkins , Scott Brim From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Orlando subnet X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:56:24 -0000 At 9:36 AM -0700 7/31/13, Derek Atkins wrote: > Repeat after me: GeoLocation Sucks. > > The databases don't understand how to deal with networks like ours that > move around the world. To to explain that to people who think geolocation is a solved problem because when they do a web search it finds where they are. (There's good wording somewhere that I've forgotten that expresses how dangerous it is when things are almost always right, because people forget about that "almost.") -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- In examinations the foolish ask questions that the wise cannot answer. --Oscar Wilde From rg+ietf@qualcomm.com Wed Jul 31 12:56:37 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B125521F9BC4 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:56:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER SECTION, Duplicate header field: "MIME-Version" X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=2.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qBHT-DU0AC9E for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A4DC21F9BD0 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:56:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1375300580; x=1406836580; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:date:to:from: subject:cc:content-type; bh=17jcenomHX687SM1F1Qug49DjbLir4XmAzy8Xh9O7Rs=; b=tUh8Ewnijp7SzD4zmPuftz8iyQBs89fN/hj9pE2esH4WAVh0jkm+2XNG QEU9xlqRgYgWVDWHq6zL4g4IqNtSm2hBn4da9JlWTCUl9NnsdJHTUTPlR Ks58xw23RSjBbE7dODrN9D85pqu7Y9DpsIMLmHe7curivD6JRXZiWvTFk 4=; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,789,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="65849894" Received: from ironmsg03-r.qualcomm.com ([172.30.46.17]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 12:56:20 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,789,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="523363664" Received: from warlock.qualcomm.com ([129.46.50.49]) by Ironmsg03-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 31 Jul 2013 12:56:20 -0700 Received: from Ironmsg04-R.qualcomm.com (ironmsg04-R.qualcomm.com [172.30.46.18]) by warlock.qualcomm.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/1.0) with ESMTP id r6VJuFN6011686 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:56:20 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.89,789,1367996400"; d="scan'208";a="576931753" Received: from unknown (HELO [10.35.200.44]) ([10.64.198.50]) by Ironmsg04-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 31 Jul 2013 12:56:18 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A52061F@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.pro d.outlook.com> References: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A520599@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.pro d.outlook.com> <51F941A7.9010104@cisco.com> <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A52061F@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.pro d.outlook.com> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 12:50:29 -0700 To: Scott Brim , Paul Aitken From: Randall Gellens Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Orlando subnet X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 19:56:37 -0000 At 5:04 PM +0000 7/31/13, Scott Brim wrote: > Please don't work too hard on fixing it. I enjoy that the IETF > ghosts around the world. +1 It's kind of fun sitting in a meeting room in, say, Stockholm, when geolocation services insist I'm at a precise address in San Francisco. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- The men sat sipping their tea in silence. After a while the klutz said, "Life is like a bowl of sour cream." "Like a bowl of sour cream?" asked the other. "Why?" "How should I know? What am I, a philosopher?" From vinayakh@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 13:02:22 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE8821F9EA2 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:02:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.473 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.473 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.126, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TDTxlZ7t+P9T for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x22c.google.com (mail-pd0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::22c]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A9121F9CA4 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id z11so400558pdj.3 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:02:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=tWW71PHtN+Pf8gB6coOLahpE/GJ3w4MLRODuQ4kPXwc=; b=kqqeWoe+fFrNFu0bxcbv2aovC3VBO84SgH16v8TidfKKAitnqnYv8xcg7Dpg/vIO3c EKkgQJnhIsmblfu8ZNOOXWorTZk3CGawcJURPyGdMVZh9okoCw8EHu971D+f0pLXrYRV Lzr+UzCX4bxnYt1oWB1pRt1lvak67OgrpWqHM1krfL4s3UnEN6etFyn0k1EN9rGHpA80 hf+e2q7lr3dbuS9zjSMXI0rhALM0QgLDCb2k/tMwVM74WNY0iB63OXb8G5pH7FO0ZUn6 3vRDmrq/rwIIMmTtZrGCKTuuMNmiBSj2pOiNT5q91hTHH1KrPFacrNx47NLpuZkA1gKu gl+A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.122.5 with SMTP id lo5mr38513175pab.175.1375300941074; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.100.226 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:02:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7DC77680-39CC-493D-9350-5EBABDE41BCA@network-heretics.com> <986D746D-3CFC-405B-8885-0A67BDFF3D93@cs.columbia.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 01:32:21 +0530 Message-ID: From: Vinayak Hegde To: Randall Gellens Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b2e46540d5d6c04e2d4348b Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Yoav Nir , Keith Moore , Henning Schulzrinne Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:02:22 -0000 --047d7b2e46540d5d6c04e2d4348b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 10:40 AM -0400 7/31/13, Henning Schulzrinne wrote: > > A common PPT and Keynote template wouldn't be a bad idea, I think. Maybe >> there's a PPT feature that restricts the number of slides, too. >> > > Any attempt to restrict the number of slides is likely to cause people to > create slides with no margins, small fonts, and lots and lots of text. > Maybe you want to restrict the number of characters? Or words, as in > letters to the editor? True. What might be better is to have guidelines / pointer to making effective presentations. Several people would find them useful. But too many rules will only stifle creativity. Such as today in the IPPM meeting, we saw the Brian (IPPM Chair) do a small animation trick with PDF slides ;-) -- Vinayak --047d7b2e46540d5d6c04e2d4348b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Randall Gellens = <rg+ietf@qualcomm.com> wrote:
At 10:40 AM -0400 7/31/13, Henning Schulzrinne wrote:

=A0A common PPT and Keynote template wouldn't be a bad idea, I think. M= aybe there's a PPT feature that restricts the number of slides, too.

Any attempt to restrict the number of slides is likely to cause people to c= reate slides with no margins, small fonts, and lots and lots of text. =A0Ma= ybe you want to restrict the number of characters? Or words, as in letters = to the editor?=

True. What might be better is to have guidelines / pointer to maki= ng effective presentations. Several people would find them useful. But too = many rules will only stifle creativity. Such as today in the IPPM meeting, = we saw the Brian (IPPM Chair) do a small animation trick with PDF slides ;-= )

-- Vinayak
--047d7b2e46540d5d6c04e2d4348b-- From alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 13:11:21 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3E221F90FD for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:11:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.147 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.147 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.102, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FaMOC2h-l1RB for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cirse-out.extra.cea.fr (cirse-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.142]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1025021F9BD0 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by cirse.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id r6VKB8p3001846 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:11:08 +0200 Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r6VKB8OL016257 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:11:08 +0200 (envelope-from alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([132.166.86.10]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id r6VKB7tm012667 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:11:07 +0200 Message-ID: <51F96F5B.7000700@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:11:07 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 87attendees@ietf.org References: <51F8F178.8030301@internet2.edu> <20130731192742.GC5962@ernw.de> In-Reply-To: <20130731192742.GC5962@ernw.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:11:21 -0000 Le 31/07/2013 21:27, Enno Rey a écrit : > On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 01:17:44AM +0530, Vinayak Hegde wrote: >> This discussion (especially having 2 at the end) reminds me of this >> geeky joke "There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who >> understand binary and those who don't" :) > > which unfortunately only works in writing, not "at the bar"... At the bar, one would say 'there are one-zero kinds of people in the world... those who wear binary watches and those who dont' Alex > > best > > Enno > > > > > >> >> -- Vinayak >> >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Randall Gellens >> wrote: >> >>> At 1:14 PM +0200 7/31/13, Scott Brim wrote: >>> >>> In this crowd, there's no need for the 2. We can recognize >>> binary when >>>> we encounter it. >>>> >>> >>> I didn't get that the 2 meant binary...I'm not used to doing it >>> that way. A preceding character, sure. Single tick marks >>> enclosing, sure. Subscripts? Not so much. >>> >>> -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; >>> I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: >>> --------------- Cabbage: A familiar kitchen-garden vegetable >>> about as large and wise as a man's head. >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ 87attendees >>> mailing list 87attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/87attendees >>> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ 87attendees mailing >> list 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees > > From vinayakh@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 13:12:41 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2825E21F9D0F for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:12:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.586 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.586 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.013, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MRDtgRF-BUM0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-x233.google.com (mail-pa0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::233]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5325021F93C4 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id lf11so1279808pab.10 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:12:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OmoGeo6hxH9ZWr2wGOi/l4xFHXE1Kr5UvfezzkgqtuA=; b=nSNo+XAoxwzBLYsil8uTdnAXbI4iHta7SCEC5nL9ozgyJ6WAjdGx7mcVc0YIPf+AlC vpg5QHfBtZmeDVClto+BO3OQfhohGOPpWsWwg5SwtKZDxU5cJiQpPXadRSyiSYmfdadP 5QWadgFn7T+R6bLIEKm8KOc5nDBvusZm3qRj+gvhmZ3S85aImWqppw+WQnur6xvpi2b1 drhfz7J4P3dfD3r39niifj2DBSYxPd4EHGP4ms6riyU+kVhSMclkPU8OA8cZGTaIpu7j 6pmXoIzbmzvfCm1Po+NdfJbtzS8q6ugbE8oY3jR4HR+tUXAffethQvctFBemK6GM+P3d 7EQw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.69.10.129 with SMTP id ea1mr82131108pbd.107.1375301560067; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.100.226 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:12:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> <614FA34D-6C24-48D8-AF84-DAEB344FFDB2@cs.columbia.edu> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 01:42:40 +0530 Message-ID: From: Vinayak Hegde To: Ole Jacobsen Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6721f4f2874a04e2d45815 Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org, Leif Johansson , Henning Schulzrinne Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:12:41 -0000 --047d7b6721f4f2874a04e2d45815 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Henning, > > I agree. The food distribution protocol needed some work > however, it suffered from congestion and unpredictable > two-way flows. > > I hope you all noticed the Jaquard Loom, forerunner to > the programmable computer! > I also heard that the Enigma machine[1] is also there at the same museum but I guess that section was closed off. No complaining. I totally enjoyed the social and some of us (lucky few) got a guided tour of the rail part of the museum. It was fantastic to hear about the evolution of rail in Germany. -- Vinayak 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine --047d7b6721f4f2874a04e2d45815 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Ole Jacobsen <ole@= cisco.com> wrote:

Henning,

I agree. The food distribution protocol needed some work
however, it suffered from congestion and unpredictable
two-way flows.

I hope you all noticed the Jaquard Loom, forerunner to
the programmable computer!

I also heard that the E= nigma machine[1] is also there at the same museum but I guess that section = was closed off. No complaining. I totally enjoyed the social and some of us= (lucky few) got a guided tour of the rail part of the museum. It was fanta= stic to hear about the evolution of rail in Germany.

-- Vinayak
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine
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On 07/31/2013 09:47 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote:
This discussion (especially having 2 at the end) reminds me of this geeky joke "There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary and those who don't" :)

Is this that aggressive ietf cultural thing that drives people away that was covered this evening????


-- Vinayak

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Randall Gellens <randy@qti.qualcomm.com> wrote:
At 1:14 PM +0200 7/31/13, Scott Brim wrote:

 In this crowd, there's no need for the 2.  We can recognize binary when
 we encounter it.

I didn't get that the 2 meant binary...I'm not used to doing it that way.  A preceding character, sure.  Single tick marks enclosing, sure.  Subscripts?  Not so much.

--
Randall Gellens
Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
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--------------000602040908010105060700-- From moore@network-heretics.com Wed Jul 31 13:33:45 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B4321F9B90 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:33:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.484 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.484 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.114, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_LETTER=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h729C0YkGc8P for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4BE21F88DB for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.45]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFE9B20F47; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:33:36 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; s=smtpout; bh=szX HqlmjKGgR5T+I2ZsU7PaZgdQ=; b=HA9mMYJZVMwwyPpnj24nwBPW6/lZ8cFGWtr XWDWDE71eg4ofKyfuSQ7vtdvDfXdz9ij9dT6YchI1MfY82fQ39pNmJqfwfbh3AZW KhB+fadO/a2DmBlV8UOreYHGhIz8jMhmlvUOmq74QK7v9Ww3gUP0tIMCwZiPXlhr syrOAzLc= X-Sasl-enc: 7nA421yapX5vXqjsyEdFwnNMA3qlUDzr/m4ggeSt75jw 1375302815 Received: from surfer-172-29-8-65-hotspot.internet-for-guests.com (unknown [87.193.195.90]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 08BFB680108; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:33:34 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--288862271 From: Keith Moore In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:33:32 +0200 Message-Id: <0E245028-B98D-43A7-A2C3-29B263B650BD@network-heretics.com> References: <7DC77680-39CC-493D-9350-5EBABDE41BCA@network-heretics.com> <986D746D-3CFC-405B-8885-0A67BDFF3D93@cs.columbia.edu> To: Vinayak Hegde X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Yoav Nir , Randall Gellens , Henning Schulzrinne Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:33:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail-4--288862271 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:02 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Randall Gellens = wrote: > At 10:40 AM -0400 7/31/13, Henning Schulzrinne wrote: >=20 > A common PPT and Keynote template wouldn't be a bad idea, I think. = Maybe there's a PPT feature that restricts the number of slides, too. >=20 > Any attempt to restrict the number of slides is likely to cause people = to create slides with no margins, small fonts, and lots and lots of = text. Maybe you want to restrict the number of characters? Or words, as = in letters to the editor? >=20 > True. What might be better is to have guidelines / pointer to making = effective presentations. Several people would find them useful. But too = many rules will only stifle creativity. Such as today in the IPPM = meeting, we saw the Brian (IPPM Chair) do a small animation trick with = PDF slides ;-) I wrote some guidelines for this at one time. Basically they said: 1. identify each topic you want to discuss, and create a slide for each = one 2. organize the topics in a logical sequence using the slide sorter 3. for any topic that requires a diagram to illustrate what you're = saying, draw a diagram, and include that diagram at the appropriate spot 4. save your current draft presentation and use it for speaking notes, = and/or as a handout 5. delete or hide everything but the diagrams, and use the result after = deleting/hiding when doing your actual presentation. Because you (should) want people to pay attention to what you're saying, = not to words on a screen. And you (should) want people to feel free to = interrupt you and engage in discussion when appropriate, rather than = feel like they have to politely sit while you read words audibly that = they can generally read for themselves much more quickly. The problem isn't that our presentations aren't effective. On those few = occasions when a presentation is called for, it's generally good enough. = The problem is that we're spending significant meeting time doing = presentations when we should be having discussions. Keith --Apple-Mail-4--288862271 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:15 AM, = Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@qualcomm.com> = wrote:
At 10:40 AM -0400 7/31/13, Henning Schulzrinne = wrote:

 A common PPT and Keynote template wouldn't be a bad idea, I think. = Maybe there's a PPT feature that restricts the number of slides, = too.

Any attempt to restrict the number of slides is likely to cause people = to create slides with no margins, small fonts, and lots and lots of = text.  Maybe you want to restrict the number of characters? Or = words, as in letters to the editor?

True. What might be better is to have guidelines / pointer to = making effective presentations. Several people would find them useful. = But too many rules will only stifle creativity. Such as today in the = IPPM meeting, we saw the Brian (IPPM Chair) do a small animation trick = with PDF slides ;-)

I wrote = some guidelines for this at one time.  Basically they = said:

1. identify each topic you want to = discuss, and create a slide for each one
2. organize the = topics in a logical sequence using the slide sorter
3. for any = topic that requires a diagram to illustrate what you're saying, draw a = diagram, and include that diagram at the appropriate spot
4. = save your current draft presentation and use it for speaking notes, = and/or as a handout
5. delete or hide everything but the = diagrams, and use the result after deleting/hiding when doing your = actual presentation.

Because you (should) want = people to pay attention to what you're saying, not to words on a screen. =  And you (should) want people to feel free to interrupt you and = engage in discussion when appropriate, rather than feel like they have = to politely sit while you read words audibly that they can generally = read for themselves much more quickly.

The = problem isn't that our presentations aren't effective.  On those = few occasions when a presentation is called for, it's generally good = enough.  The problem is that we're spending significant meeting = time doing presentations when we should be having = discussions.

Keith

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X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: huubatwork@gmail.com List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:35:57 -0000 Vinayak: > I also heard that the Enigma machine[1] is also there at the same museum > but I guess that section was closed off. > > -- Vinayak > 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine That section was not closed, it is on the first floor just above the entrance: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/87723095 Regards, Huub. -- ***************************************************************** 请记ä½ï¼Œä½ æ˜¯ç‹¬ä¸€æ— äºŒçš„，就åƒå…¶ä»–æ¯ä¸€ä¸ªäººä¸€æ · From ynir@checkpoint.com Wed Jul 31 13:51:07 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2D421F9CFB for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:51:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.522 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.522 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.076, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xFQ0G9tKcSUB for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.checkpoint.com (smtp.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 026C921E80CD for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 13:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DAG-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([194.29.34.150]) by smtp.checkpoint.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r6VKos8m006947; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:50:54 +0300 X-CheckPoint: {51F978AE-0-1B221DC2-1FFFF} Received: from IL-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([169.254.2.105]) by DAG-EX10.ad.checkpoint.com ([169.254.3.223]) with mapi id 14.02.0342.003; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:50:53 +0300 From: Yoav Nir To: "Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir)" Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Slide numbers Thread-Index: AQHOjfma0lQDeEOoCkuYtQjjkBt7Fpl+/CAAgAAA/QCAABPtgA== Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:50:53 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [172.31.20.170] x-kse-antivirus-interceptor-info: scan successful x-kse-antivirus-info: Clean x-cpdlp: 116090e5131cff34c37030e245f0940ca6ea31faad Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C04489D9F52C422D8CBA817037618B7Dcheckpointcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Vinayak Hegde Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 20:51:07 -0000 --_000_C04489D9F52C422D8CBA817037618B7Dcheckpointcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sure, and so does LibreOffice, and I'm sure that Keynote as well. On Jul 31, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir) > wrote: I thought MS PPT do the same thing as well when setup correctly, I think it= is more of how you use it than the tool in itself right ? From: 87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87atten= dees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vinayak Hegde Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 12:36 PM To: Yoav Nir Cc: <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Slide numbers I am surprised that many people here do not use Latex-beamer to prepare the= ir slides. It does a whole bunch of things such as add a table of contents,= headers, footers and slides numbers on every slides. The initial learning = curve is steep but gets gentle pretty fast. -- Vinayak On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Yoav Nir > wrote: I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might be mos= tly too late now, but we should remember to remind people two weeks before = the meeting that slides need numbers. --_000_C04489D9F52C422D8CBA817037618B7Dcheckpointcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <05FC3EA401BEF44A816551C5F3BD35E0@ad.checkpoint.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sure, and so does LibreOffice, and I'm sure that Keynote as well.

On Jul 31, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Tissa Senevirathne (tsenevir) <tsenevir@cisco.com> wrote:

I thought MS PPT do the same thing as well when setup cor= rectly, I think it is more of how you use it than the tool in itself right = ?
 
From:=  87attendees-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:87attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Vinayak He= gde
Sent: Wednesday, J= uly 31, 2013 12:36 PM
To: Yoav Nir
Cc: <87attendee= s@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [87at= tendees] Slide numbers
 

I am surprised that many people here do not use Latex-beamer to prepare the= ir slides. It does a whole bunch of things such as add a table of contents,= headers, footers and slides numbers on every slides. The initial learning = curve is steep but gets gentle pretty fast.

-- Vinayak

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com> wrote:
I've seen way too many slides this week with no slide numbers. Might be mos= tly too late now, but we should remember to remind people two weeks before = the meeting that slides need numbers.

--_000_C04489D9F52C422D8CBA817037618B7Dcheckpointcom_-- From vdolmatov@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 14:13:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C210B21E80A6 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:13:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.248 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.248 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_CHARSET_FARAWAY=2.45, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SMUH8l9zj62B for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bk0-x234.google.com (mail-bk0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4008:c01::234]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9649821E809E for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f52.google.com with SMTP id e11so422276bkh.11 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:12:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=25T1S3RWkqxgkiEg1rnAUUP+4NszdgxiKJbU0+7cnSA=; b=q8tbbRmvxZE8/FRe5XbzrpEUH3P9gp/IhCsGmi1p1dtucmTd2IM88rBxpr5JgqsXjX rCtw3a5iz/RrRBcUeEyWjELEFDQHD2ora6KOpwHYKNuHDWl3x9O4aVywOAWQkSvV46zI jnC3PUY9dQRmDrJP8tTNMbsDYRjgdusi40YwHbp86ZejUTcG7ZzNfcybmQzP+SZqsigm SiWU3lzuoc6jhnkyIUZ+00bmEzVW8H+hDq4VzN/z1gOIE5YhpexoJOKMb451oY39E8Ib fomQfsim5xskzYS4LXyZkOhcWvbYbhA4ffOiCLmvA+BFKMNhbYysK+JhO/hek/pe+c73 2RIg== X-Received: by 10.205.23.144 with SMTP id ra16mr5703836bkb.68.1375305178643; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.15.28] ([213.23.104.157]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qw6sm34863bkb.4.2013.07.31.14.12.57 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:12:57 -0700 (PDT) References: <51F8F2A6.9010206@sunet.se> <614FA34D-6C24-48D8-AF84-DAEB344FFDB2@cs.columbia.edu> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-DF0843A3-9DF8-4FA1-90FC-C91F5630DF81; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: Basil Dolmatov Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:12:56 +0200 To: Vinayak Hegde Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Ole Jacobsen , Leif Johansson , Henning Schulzrinne Subject: Re: [87attendees] testing a positive post... X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 21:13:00 -0000 --Apple-Mail-DF0843A3-9DF8-4FA1-90FC-C91F5630DF81 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-95F2B0F7-4DE7-401A-ADAB-2B4804BC9F9F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-95F2B0F7-4DE7-401A-ADAB-2B4804BC9F9F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have had a lot of fun without guides. Just remembering my childhood, when I= had nickname "Basil-steam-loco-runner" ;) Thanks to the denic! ;) dol@=20 @mobile iPad 31.07.2013, =D7 22:12, Vinayak Hegde =CE=C1=D0=C9=D3=C1= =CC(=C1): > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: >>=20 >> Henning, >>=20 >> I agree. The food distribution protocol needed some work >> however, it suffered from congestion and unpredictable >> two-way flows. >>=20 >> I hope you all noticed the Jaquard Loom, forerunner to >> the programmable computer! >=20 > I also heard that the Enigma machine[1] is also there at the same museum b= ut I guess that section was closed off. No complaining. I totally enjoyed th= e social and some of us (lucky few) got a guided tour of the rail part of th= e museum. It was fantastic to hear about the evolution of rail in Germany. >=20 > -- Vinayak > 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --Apple-Mail-95F2B0F7-4DE7-401A-ADAB-2B4804BC9F9F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have had a lot of fun without guides= . Just remembering my childhood, when I had nickname "Basil-steam-loco-runne= r" ;)

Thanks to the denic! ;)

dol@ @mobile iPad

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at= 5:11 PM, Ole Jacobsen <ole@cisco.com> wrote:

Henning,

I agree. The food distribution protocol needed some work
however, it suffered from congestion and unpredictable
two-way flows.

I hope you all noticed the Jaquard Loom, forerunner to
the programmable computer!

I also heard that the En= igma machine[1] is also there at the same museum but I guess that section wa= s closed off. No complaining. I totally enjoyed the social and some of us (l= ucky few) got a guided tour of the rail part of the museum. It was fantastic= to hear about the evolution of rail in Germany.

-- Vinayak
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_machine
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protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: <2808D1D4-0353-4054-92AF-7236DBB9A606@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B329) From: Basil Dolmatov Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:14:25 +0200 To: "Olle E. Johansson" Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Matthias Waehlisch , Fred Akalin , Fred Akalin Subject: Re: [87attendees] Places in Berlin to practice the piano X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 21:14:32 -0000 --Apple-Mail-CCA83A57-7B65-41B5-8FB8-3451F259B0A1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5703BBCC-8BE1-4B75-9C82-5028CFEF6EB3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-5703BBCC-8BE1-4B75-9C82-5028CFEF6EB3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ahha, with very modern sculpture at the front ;) dol@=20 @mobile iPad 31.07.2013, =D0=B2 19:22, "Olle E. Johansson" =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0= =BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB(=D0=B0): > Steinway seems to have a sales office just a few blocks away on the river.= >=20 > /O >=20 > 31 jul 2013 kl. 18:53 skrev Fred Akalin : >=20 >> Hello Matthias, >>=20 >> Thanks! This worked out perfectly. I wish I had such access to Steinway c= oncert grands at home. :) >>=20 >> -- Fred >>=20 >> On Saturday, July 27, 2013, Matthias Waehlisch wrote: >>> Hi Fred, >>>=20 >>> see http://www.steinway-berlin.de/klavierangebote/studio >>>=20 >>> They are located L=C3=BCtzowufer 28/ Ecke Keithstra=C3=9Fe, which is n= ot far >>> away from the IETF venue. >>>=20 >>> For 11 EUR/hour, you can play on a grand piano (Model D-274). >>>=20 >>> You can make a reservation via 030 315 731 14. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Cheers >>> matthias >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Matthias Waehlisch >>> . Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST >>> . Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany >>> .. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl >>> :. Also: http://inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net >>>=20 >>> On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Fred Akalin wrote: >>>=20 >>> > Hey all, >>> > >>> > Does anyone know a place in Berlin where one might be able to practice= on a >>> > piano, perhaps at a price? >>> > >>> > Thanks! >>> > >>> > -- Fred >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >> 87attendees mailing list >> 87attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees >=20 > --- > * Olle E Johansson - oej@edvina.net > * Cell phone +46 70 593 68 51, Office +46 8 96 40 20, Sweden >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees --Apple-Mail-5703BBCC-8BE1-4B75-9C82-5028CFEF6EB3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ahha, with very modern sculpture at th= e front ;)

dol@ 
@mobile iPad


31.07.2013, =D0=B2 19:22, "Olle E. Johansson" <oej@edvina.net> =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB= (=D0=B0):

Steinway seems to hav= e a sales office just a few blocks away on the river.

/O<= /div>

31 jul 2013 kl. 18:53 skrev Fred Akalin <akalin@google.com>:

Hello Matthias,

Thanks! This worked out perfectly. I wish I had such access to Stein= way concert grands at home. :)

-- Fred=

On Saturday, July 27, 2013, Matthias Waehlisch wrote:
Hi Fred,

  see http://www.steinway-berlin.de/klavierangebote/studio
  They are located L=C3=BCtzowufer 28/ Ecke Keithstra=C3=9Fe, which is n= ot far
away from the IETF venue.

  For 11 EUR/hour, you can play on a grand piano (Model D-274).

  You can make a reservation via 030 315 731 14.


Cheers
  matthias


--
Matthias Waehlisch
.  Freie Universitaet Berlin, Inst. fuer Informatik, AG CST
.  Takustr. 9, D-14195 Berlin, Germany
.. mailto:waehlisch@ieee.org .. http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~waehl
:. Also: http:= //inet.cpt.haw-hamburg.de .. http://www.link-lab.net

On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Fred Akalin wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> Does anyone know a place in Berlin where one might be able to practice o= n a
> piano, perhaps at a price?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Fred
>
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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [87attendees] Tegel Airport X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 21:37:51 -0000 If you're flying out of Tegel Airport: Paraphrasing wikipedia: All major airlines arrive at and depart from Terminal A. There is no transit zone, which means that each gate has its own security clearance checkpoint. I found the security experience to be very thorough: each passenger was individually screened, frisked, and wanded. All shoes - even flat / flip-flop style - were checked on a shoe step. You're expected to empty *everything* from your pockets. So expect it to be slow. However don't arrive too early, because there's nothing to do air-side. P. From gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com Wed Jul 31 14:42:11 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E3A621F9A2A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D7Ilycjdj3eF for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x236.google.com (mail-pd0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::236]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E95B21F9930 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id r10so1242352pdi.27 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=KUFL+RKqL7Fi2SltyLl/74SoF4Y9d2m/7bgHFG6uoaI=; b=eqwkktfG+cYkFx/lJu1bkFQdxYGziIO586Mc7LVa2ysNe+5fgsBURbkek2tWRQL3YD lFtNHM+0nk/UluvNK1UY+niPCadw8qN8TvjQWL0HbVtj2AebesH+cTGCiUSH2lNAV5NO /Zx7qqVt6wwspYAVRiYJlT2kR5poQ1EF3P9bL2U37CZ9mdqLo8EiC/CxyUqtTopcRl2a xJMFq5onr7C/xoxJ+VeE9yfb+Bh33l70bcuxeHQX8oewo96rBfPQRbakz5F/nqda2o4g z1Jk3WVBaU5ypwmy+TYLaJmPI59psoTXGmgD+hGJWAiCo95NEpATlv/MNI0EPkGFJthK UFvA== X-Received: by 10.68.130.234 with SMTP id oh10mr82772129pbb.129.1375306930267; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhcp-4286.meeting.ietf.org (dhcp-4286.meeting.ietf.org. [130.129.66.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s5sm236638pbo.38.2013.07.31.14.42.06 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) From: Gordon Lennox In-Reply-To: <51F9839A.1040605@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:42:02 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <35EF3371-A214-4B3D-AB94-0FB74DC4AF95@gmail.com> References: <51F9839A.1040605@cisco.com> To: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: Paul Aitken Subject: Re: [87attendees] Tegel Airport X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 21:42:11 -0000 And yesterday I got a message from Air France saying that I was now = leaving via Terminal C. So you might like to check with your own favourite major airline. Gordon On 31 Jul, 2013, at 23:37, Paul Aitken wrote: > If you're flying out of Tegel Airport: >=20 > Paraphrasing wikipedia: All major airlines arrive at and depart from = Terminal A. There is no transit zone, which means that each gate has its = own security clearance checkpoint. >=20 > I found the security experience to be very thorough: each passenger = was individually screened, frisked, and wanded. All shoes - even flat / = flip-flop style - were checked on a shoe step. You're expected to empty = *everything* from your pockets. >=20 > So expect it to be slow. However don't arrive too early, because = there's nothing to do air-side. >=20 > P. From ferlin@simula.no Wed Jul 31 14:42:26 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006AF21F9D44 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.143 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.143 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.833, BAYES_00=-2.599, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, SARE_HTML_USL_OBFU=1.666] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yvDxfJnM5xYH for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C63321F9F4F for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ta17so2444926obb.32 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=S/zf0QnvaCgukd3qDoci7If5O1mCqV6gk71z9zkXxjw=; b=YCg6dDN4dJRde/VVMqgM+7CJeqsQgAtugcLRMtJR/STrhIRXjBcipcBEd9A0FwDkkU yE2xk+Gk3Dj7ORO8+W55TxdQbrhaQctpdxd6KZRUTASpuQ25GLkUHK2M3/5+KfbrgOZt 0P3hAYkUQ16q9KQX22wKNoDYGonVr6I72JOhcbnEbD+8/eT1BbKs7WlN8qZZF8q7GHCy Qx0Kv0LlGO3/Ab3vjEqfMOVvYZNJipAthnafrCWX0OQTQC7/SCxRYK39QQLazD1vjqdg 5Ffo+xFaJx6wrjXIxsHYDlL05vV4q6UYTtYXm4JpaYr/zXmX/WGG1F+2u5T1n8FOoVca JcNA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.118.67 with SMTP id fp3mr2136265icc.60.1375306937646; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.225.40 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:42:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51F9839A.1040605@cisco.com> References: <51F9839A.1040605@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:42:17 +0200 Message-ID: From: Simone Ferlin-Oliveira To: Paul Aitken Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517c83679d3bc04e2d59939 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkZQ6xRTWqLnUft8hAJIV0WI4zXlRYdWJ58Pcqzb8Y9Lm+nqhqdKzFuAM5t0x7Pi2JA5ZE5 Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Tegel Airport X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 21:42:26 -0000 --bcaec517c83679d3bc04e2d59939 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't know in Tegel, but there was (~2012) an extra check for passengers flying to the U.S. Flying inside Europe is usually very uncomplicated. On 31 July 2013 23:37, Paul Aitken wrote: > If you're flying out of Tegel Airport: > > Paraphrasing wikipedia: All major airlines arrive at and depart from > Terminal A. There is no transit zone, which means that each gate has its > own security clearance checkpoint. > > I found the security experience to be very thorough: each passenger was > individually screened, frisked, and wanded. All shoes - even flat / > flip-flop style - were checked on a shoe step. You're expected to empty > *everything* from your pockets. > > So expect it to be slow. However don't arrive too early, because there's > nothing to do air-side. > > P. > ______________________________**_________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/**listinfo/87attendees > --bcaec517c83679d3bc04e2d59939 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't know in Tegel, but there was (~2012) an extra = check for passengers flying to the U.S.
Flying inside Europe is us= ually very uncomplicated.

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On 31 July 2013 23:37, Paul Aitken <paitken@cis= co.com> wrote:
If you're flying out of Tegel Airport:

Paraphrasing wikipedia: All major airlines arrive at and depart from Termin= al A. There is no transit zone, which means that each gate has its own secu= rity clearance checkpoint.

I found the security experience to be very thorough: each passenger was ind= ividually screened, frisked, and wanded. All shoes - even flat / flip-flop = style - were checked on a shoe step. You're expected to empty *everythi= ng* from your pockets.

So expect it to be slow. However don't arrive too early, because there&= #39;s nothing to do air-side.

P.
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--bcaec517c83679d3bc04e2d59939-- From johnl@taugh.com Wed Jul 31 15:40:46 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B5611E812A for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:40:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vIX4VuZe15x0 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D640021E809F for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 66032 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2013 22:40:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=101ee.51f99264.k1307; bh=IOg4Shw7cXkTmfS1F9RIT8ACSDKFnrdax5A0E2b+bwg=; b=ja5Q6Z7fn1CNi+bTKHBRCirsY5JI6EVg7jbgt6Px7hlzHgRgL12eCxbKeQ5BR5Iqxf3z/f19O66d8PP/aq7s1omYnULfbdFi0wbeB4vTA0rlR2atDSusC5m5bsUycwNcQ4NRhn9ftJ3zfXBSzCFfJXjBj8zToLGSZ3ou0iNI7pKvMAaZb0BMTkwyzepEXpVX0TcDy0weCkxRSfhy28A4UX0REQouhZeyPyAWm0Ak9Xxb60fNenCJ0XqiKoB5BtRE DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent:cleverness; s=101ee.51f99264.k1307; bh=IOg4Shw7cXkTmfS1F9RIT8ACSDKFnrdax5A0E2b+bwg=; b=ZJSuj1Y1ouX+AB/m5p//BJfjs/KGVBqqOXHh2VmESrl68JpmKQFP9VxD+Bp+P8ZLky+U6A6XMcHVPM40POxbwzHsnuVDAyEkS3KcWY975qocJhqfepPGGAgiQ+TrI1ke1nueSn/i5zLJ6wJY4dNJUPEnRny/Rypf8Vqy7Ed7ldZ9DBMqr/wL4RpsZi37tqhz9vkzm4kdTpDuW78Gj3YVJniiGuvVnEtEk6OSQGXD/7vCm0+FpPm93XylGxfYIQ9K Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1); 31 Jul 2013 22:40:14 -0000 Date: 1 Aug 2013 00:40:35 +0200 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Paul Aitken" In-Reply-To: <51F9839A.1040605@cisco.com> References: <51F9839A.1040605@cisco.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: "87attendees@ietf.org" <87attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [87attendees] Tegel Airport X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:40:46 -0000 > I found the security experience to be very thorough: each passenger was > individually screened, frisked, and wanded. All shoes - even flat / flip-flop > style - were checked on a shoe step. You're expected to empty *everything* > from your pockets. When I flew out of Tegel last year, the security was just before the gate (hard to avoid given the airport's layout) but it wasn't any fussier than it is at Frankfurt or other EU airports. Perhaps your screener was in a bad mood. R's, John From Ted.Lemon@nominum.com Wed Jul 31 15:55:10 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8498A21F9BF1 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:55:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.536 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.536 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.063, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yab1EUk4LRwe for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from exprod7og118.obsmtp.com (exprod7og118.obsmtp.com [64.18.2.8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB79121F9A37 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell-too.nominum.com ([64.89.228.229]) (using TLSv1) by exprod7ob118.postini.com ([64.18.6.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUfmVwnqr7Q7r8DPmON1wnlgPPCn6xuHs@postini.com; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:55:03 PDT Received: from archivist.nominum.com (archivist.nominum.com [64.89.228.108]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by shell-too.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC53D1B8288 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail.nominum.com (cas-02.win.nominum.com [64.89.228.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mail.nominum.com", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certification Authority" (verified OK)) by archivist.nominum.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A19A4190065; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:54:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Ted.Lemon@nominum.com) Received: from MBX-01.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.133]) by CAS-02.WIN.NOMINUM.COM ([64.89.228.132]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 15:54:56 -0700 From: Ted Lemon To: Robert Moskowitz Thread-Topic: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? Thread-Index: AQHOjibS9t7YLrgOb02TUPB7irczvZl/r++AgAArEIA= Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:54:55 +0000 Message-ID: <8D23D4052ABE7A4490E77B1A012B63077523B733@mbx-01.win.nominum.com> References: <51F8F178.8030301@internet2.edu> <51F971A1.3010200@labs.htt-consult.com> In-Reply-To: <51F971A1.3010200@labs.htt-consult.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.1.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: <5B81FA8C0213C443A195DBE9DB3FAA90@nominum.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Scott Brim , "" , "" , "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Randall Gellens , Vinayak Hegde Subject: Re: [87attendees] Seven-bit shirts? X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:55:10 -0000 On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:20 PM, Robert Moskowitz w= rote: > Is this that aggressive ietf cultural thing that drives people away that = was covered this evening???? No. (Seriously, no. In-jokes may turn people off, and that's also bad for incl= usiveness, but that's not the same issue.) From adam@nostrum.com Wed Jul 31 16:09:06 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9814321F9AB4 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:09:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.698, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5FtovoOVIr0n for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaman.nostrum.com (nostrum-pt.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f03:267::2]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D7421F860B for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 16:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.129.70.118] (dhcp-4676.meeting.ietf.org [130.129.70.118]) (authenticated bits=0) by shaman.nostrum.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r6VN8sXF060095 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 31 Jul 2013 18:08:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) References: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A520599@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.pro d.outlook.com> <51F941A7.9010104@cisco.com> <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A52061F@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.pro d.outlook.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <79A25569-34D1-4D90-9ECC-FE216725E7CA@nostrum.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (10B350) From: Adam Roach Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 01:08:53 +0200 To: Randall Gellens Received-SPF: pass (shaman.nostrum.com: 130.129.70.118 is authenticated by a trusted mechanism) Cc: "<87attendees@ietf.org>" <87attendees@ietf.org>, Scott Brim , Paul Aitken Subject: Re: [87attendees] Orlando subnet X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:09:06 -0000 Not so fun when I'm in Germany trying to use my Netflix account, which is bl= ocking me because they cannot distribute into Taiwan... :-( /a On Jul 31, 2013, at 21:50, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 5:04 PM +0000 7/31/13, Scott Brim wrote: >=20 >> Please don't work too hard on fixing it. I enjoy that the IETF ghosts aro= und the world. >=20 > +1 >=20 > It's kind of fun sitting in a meeting room in, say, Stockholm, when geoloc= ation services insist I'm at a precise address in San Francisco. >=20 > --=20 > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > The men sat sipping their tea in silence. After a while the klutz > said, "Life is like a bowl of sour cream." > "Like a bowl of sour cream?" asked the other. "Why?" > "How should I know? What am I, a philosopher?" > _______________________________________________ > 87attendees mailing list > 87attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87attendees From cabo@tzi.org Wed Jul 31 22:47:00 2013 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E65921F9D09 for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:47:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -104.341 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-104.341 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35, RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=1.908, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ktTvuW73Cmrj for <87attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C4121F8F63 for <87attendees@ietf.org>; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 22:46:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r715knFf011301; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 07:46:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.20.10.3] (ip-2-207-107-217.web.vodafone.de [2.207.107.217]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46D78A93; Thu, 1 Aug 2013 07:46:49 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: <79A25569-34D1-4D90-9ECC-FE216725E7CA@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 07:46:48 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <93707BF8-79D2-490F-8992-81F19CF6C79D@tzi.org> References: <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A520599@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.pro d.outlook.com> <51F941A7.9010104@cisco.com> <824CBBAF26EC8E428BE32C12F75F93690A52061F@CH1PRD0810MB395.namprd08.pro d.outlook.com> <79A25569-34D1-4D90-9ECC-FE216725E7CA@nostrum.com> To: Adam Roach X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Cc: 87attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [87attendees] Orlando subnet X-BeenThere: 87attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: <87attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 05:47:00 -0000 On Aug 1, 2013, at 01:08, Adam Roach wrote: > Taiwan I believe we should collect these experiences and tally the average = latency of the various services in picking up IETF's "movements"... Taiwan is 5 meetings ago, Prague (which has been cited here) is 7 = meetings ago. Wow. Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten