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Thread-Topic: Applied Networking Research Prize 2014 presentation	s at IETF-89
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Hi,

we are extremely pleased to report that for the 2014 award period
of the Applied Networking Research Prize (ANRP), 46 eligible
nominations were received. Each submission was reviewed by four
members of the selection committee according to a diverse set of
criteria, including scientific excellence and substance, timeliness,
relevance, and potential impact on the Internet.

Based on this review, six submissions were awarded an Applied
Networking Research Prize for 2014. The first two prize winners
will present their work at IETF-89 in London, UK. The ANRP awards
for IETF-89 go to:

*** Kenny Paterson *** for finding and documenting new attacks
against TLS and DTLS:

    N. J. Al Fardan and K. G. Paterson. Lucky Thirteen: Breaking
    the TLS and DTLS Record Protocols. Proc. IEEE Symposium on
    Security and Privacy, pp. 526-540, San Francisco, CA, USA,
    May 2013.

*** Keith Winstein *** for designing a transport protocol for
interactive applications that desire high throughput and low delay:

    Keith Winstein, Anirudh Sivaraman, and Hari Balakrishnan
    Stochastic Forecasts Achieve High Throughput and Low Delay
    over Cellular Networks. Proc. 10th USENIX Symposium on
    Networked Systems Design and Implementation (NSDI), Lombard,
    IL, USA, April 2013.

Kenny and Keith have been invited to present his findings in the IRTF
Open Meeting during IETF-89 in London, UK. Join them there!

The call for ANRP nominations for the 2015 awards cycle will open in the
fall of 2014. Read more about the ANRP at http://irtf.org/anrp.

Please subscribe to the IRTF-Announce mailing list in order to receive
future calls for ANRP nominations and join ISOC to stay informed of
other networking research initiatives:

http://irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/irtf-announce
http://isoc.org/join

Regards,

Lars Eggert, IRTF Chair            http://irtf.org/anrp
Mat Ford, Internet Society         http://isoc.org/research

--

2014 ANRP Selection Committee

Mark Allman, ICIR
Marcelo Bagnulo, UC3M
Lou Berger, LabN
Olivier Bonaventure, UCL Louvain
Ross Callon, Juniper
KC Claffy, CAIDA
Lars Eggert, NetApp
Stephen Farrell, Trinity College Dublin
Olivier Festor, INRIA
Mat Ford, ISOC
Lisandro Granville, UFRGS
Volker Hilt, Bell Labs
Suresh Krishnan, Ericsson
Dan Massey, Colorado State
Al Morton, AT&T Laboratories
J=F6rg Ott, Aalto University
Colin Perkins, University of Glasgow
Stefano Previdi, Cisco
J=FCrgen Sch=F6nw=E4lder, Jacobs University Bremen
Joe Touch, USC/ISI
Rolf Winter, Hochschule Augsburg
Yang Richard Yang, Yale
Lixia Zhang, UCLA=

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Subject: [89attendees] Does the registration include breakfast this time?
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Hello all,

from the registration form for IETF 89 is seems as if a "continental=20
breakfast" would be included, could someone confirm or deny this please?

Excerpt from https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf89/ietfreg.py :
>  PAYMENT:
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>     Full Rate or Student registration fee is for all or any part of the=
 meeting and includes admission to all working group sessions,
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continental breakfast, and afternoon break refreshments.



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Hi Ludwig.

Typically, IETF breakfast is only provided when not part of deals with 
hotels. IETF 89 falls in the case where it is included in room rates, 
therefore I doubt we will be served more than coffee around meeting rooms.

I feel the text you quote should be updated to mention "continental 
breakfast (when applicable)".

Regards,

Julien


Jan. 30, 2014 - Ludwig Seitz:
> Hello all,
 >
 > from the registration form for IETF 89 is seems as if a "continental
 > breakfast" would be included, could someone confirm or deny this
 > please?
 >
 > Excerpt from https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf89/ietfreg.py :
 >> PAYMENT:
 >>
 >> Full Rate or Student registration fee is for all or any part of the
 >> meeting and includes admission to all working group sessions,
 >> plenaries, Sunday evening Welcome Reception (cash bar), continental
 >> breakfast, and afternoon break refreshments.
 >
 >
 >
 > /Ludwig
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 >
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Hi all,

room block at the Hotel Hilton is sold out.
Any other suggested hotel close to the HIlton with good rates
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There's another Hilton  at Paddington station about five minutes walk from
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Hi all,<br>
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room block at the Hotel Hilton is sold out.<br>
Any other suggested hotel close to the HIlton with good rates<br>
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There are literally hundreds of smaller hotels/B&Bs within a 5 minute walk.
   http://goo.gl/maps/UMUf5

I spent some time reading reviews and comparing prices, and looking on
hotels.com and hotwire.com, and I wound up booking at:
   http://winrose-hotel.co.uk

I think that many of these places were in centries past, where country
gently stayed when they were in the "city"

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tripadvisor is a good starting point for hotel reviews. 

On 31 Jan 2014, at 14:06, Michael Richardson wrote:

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> There are literally hundreds of smaller hotels/B&Bs within a 5 minute walk.
>   http://goo.gl/maps/UMUf5
> 
> I spent some time reading reviews and comparing prices, and looking on
> hotels.com and hotwire.com, and I wound up booking at:
>   http://winrose-hotel.co.uk
> 
> I think that many of these places were in centries past, where country
> gently stayed when they were in the "city"
> 
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I ended up at the Wigmore Court, in the other direction.

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I traveled from IAD to the London Hilton Metropole this week for
another meeting, here are some notes....

[ WARNING ]: Use caution - This route includes a train!

Getting into London:
Take the Heathrow Express train - bought tickets online. For some
reason it didn't like my Visa card (failed with a "We cannot process
this at the moment"), used an Amex instead.
You can get an Express Saver Return for 34GBP, or a Business First
Return for 52GBP.
Business First sounds much nicer, but really isn't worth the
difference - the ride is around 20 minutes.
Heathrow Express emails you a ticket, print it out and keep it handy
(don't bury it in your luggage!) . There are lots of signs for
Heathrow Express in the airport -- if you arrive in Terminal 1, walk
out through customs, walk across the arrivals hall and take the
elevators down to the platform.

Get off at Paddington station - it is the last stop. If you take the
Express version of the train, it's also the only stop! Paddington
station is, of course, where the Browns met Paddington bear - this
event is memorialized with a statue of Paddington. If you'd like to
see this historic point, walk through the glass doors under the sushi
sign, he's sitting on his luggage, near the escalator.
Paddington station also has the only store devoted entirely to
Paddington bear, and is also a drop-off point for the 2014 Marmalade
competition.


Getting from Paddington to the Hilton:
You could take a cab, but the hotel is 0.4mile away, and an easy, flat
walk. Took me <7 minutes.
Google Maps link: http://goo.gl/maps/XIAE7

Walk out onto Praed street - it's the "main" entrance - basically
continue walking in the same direction the train was going, up a ramp
/ closed road.
Turn left when you get onto the actual road. You will walk past
Garfunkels bar and a Mercure hotel. On the 2nd or 3rd block, just
before the big metal gates for St Mary's, look up  -- this is where Sir
Alexander Flemming discovered Penicillium mould. Say a quick "Thanks",
life would be substantially worse without this. I would also lose my
primary excuse for keeping a messy desk.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming

Continue walking along Praed. The hotel shows up on your left, just
after a Carphone Warehouse (they sell SIMs -
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/sims. I haven't checked if this is a
good deal). If you reach Marks&Spenser you have walked right past it.
Turn 180 degrees and walk in.



I happened to score a Business class ticket and arrived in LHR at
9:20AM, too early to checkin to the hotel. I had a meeting before
that, so I stopped in at the Star Alliance Arrivals Lounge for a
shower and some breakfast -- if you are arriving early and can get
access, I strongly recommend doing this (you will arrive less smelly
and we will all thank you).
http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki/u/London_(LHR)_Star_Alliance_Terminal_1_Arrivals_Lounge


Note: This is what *I* did, doesn't mean it's the best / fastest /
cheapest / prettiest / simplest / shortest / most efficient, etc (see,
I've been on attendees@ before...)

W

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For those of you that want to go paperless, I took the email confirmation
that the Heathrow Express website sent me and just cropped it down to the
schedule and barcode and it worked just fine.

Good thing, too, since the HE app is worthless.

C

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On Jan 31, 2014 9:02 AM, "Warren Kumari" <warren@kumari.net> wrote:

> I traveled from IAD to the London Hilton Metropole this week for
> another meeting, here are some notes....
>
> [ WARNING ]: Use caution - This route includes a train!
>
> Getting into London:
> Take the Heathrow Express train - bought tickets online. For some
> reason it didn't like my Visa card (failed with a "We cannot process
> this at the moment"), used an Amex instead.
> You can get an Express Saver Return for 34GBP, or a Business First
> Return for 52GBP.
> Business First sounds much nicer, but really isn't worth the
> difference - the ride is around 20 minutes.
> Heathrow Express emails you a ticket, print it out and keep it handy
> (don't bury it in your luggage!) . There are lots of signs for
> Heathrow Express in the airport -- if you arrive in Terminal 1, walk
> out through customs, walk across the arrivals hall and take the
> elevators down to the platform.
>
> Get off at Paddington station - it is the last stop. If you take the
> Express version of the train, it's also the only stop! Paddington
> station is, of course, where the Browns met Paddington bear - this
> event is memorialized with a statue of Paddington. If you'd like to
> see this historic point, walk through the glass doors under the sushi
> sign, he's sitting on his luggage, near the escalator.
> Paddington station also has the only store devoted entirely to
> Paddington bear, and is also a drop-off point for the 2014 Marmalade
> competition.
>
>
> Getting from Paddington to the Hilton:
> You could take a cab, but the hotel is 0.4mile away, and an easy, flat
> walk. Took me <7 minutes.
> Google Maps link: http://goo.gl/maps/XIAE7
>
> Walk out onto Praed street - it's the "main" entrance - basically
> continue walking in the same direction the train was going, up a ramp
> / closed road.
> Turn left when you get onto the actual road. You will walk past
> Garfunkels bar and a Mercure hotel. On the 2nd or 3rd block, just
> before the big metal gates for St Mary's, look up  -- this is where Sir
> Alexander Flemming discovered Penicillium mould. Say a quick "Thanks",
> life would be substantially worse without this. I would also lose my
> primary excuse for keeping a messy desk.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming
>
> Continue walking along Praed. The hotel shows up on your left, just
> after a Carphone Warehouse (they sell SIMs -
> http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/sims. I haven't checked if this is a
> good deal). If you reach Marks&Spenser you have walked right past it.
> Turn 180 degrees and walk in.
>
>
>
> I happened to score a Business class ticket and arrived in LHR at
> 9:20AM, too early to checkin to the hotel. I had a meeting before
> that, so I stopped in at the Star Alliance Arrivals Lounge for a
> shower and some breakfast -- if you are arriving early and can get
> access, I strongly recommend doing this (you will arrive less smelly
> and we will all thank you).
>
> http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki/u/London_(LHR)_Star_Alliance_Terminal_1_Arrivals_Lounge
>
>
> Note: This is what *I* did, doesn't mean it's the best / fastest /
> cheapest / prettiest / simplest / shortest / most efficient, etc (see,
> I've been on attendees@ before...)
>
> W
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<p dir=3D"ltr">For those of you that want to go paperless, I took the email=
 confirmation that the Heathrow Express website sent me and just cropped it=
 down to the schedule and barcode and it worked just fine.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Good thing, too, since the HE app is worthless.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">C</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">-- <br></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Colin Doyle, CCNA, F5 ASP/ATSP, Juniper JES<br>
Director of Network Services<br>
Verilan, Inc.<br>
7327 SW Barnes Rd. #215<br>
Portland, OR 97225</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">+1 503.810.2129 [mobile]<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:cdoyle@verilan.com">cdoyle@verilan.com</a> [email]<br>
cdoyle.verilan [skype]<br>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jan 31, 2014 9:02 AM, &quot;Warren Kumari&quo=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:warren@kumari.net">warren@kumari.net</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I traveled from IAD to the London Hilton Metropole this week for<br>
another meeting, here are some notes....<br>
<br>
[ WARNING ]: Use caution - This route includes a train!<br>
<br>
Getting into London:<br>
Take the Heathrow Express train - bought tickets online. For some<br>
reason it didn&#39;t like my Visa card (failed with a &quot;We cannot proce=
ss<br>
this at the moment&quot;), used an Amex instead.<br>
You can get an Express Saver Return for 34GBP, or a Business First<br>
Return for 52GBP.<br>
Business First sounds much nicer, but really isn&#39;t worth the<br>
difference - the ride is around 20 minutes.<br>
Heathrow Express emails you a ticket, print it out and keep it handy<br>
(don&#39;t bury it in your luggage!) . There are lots of signs for<br>
Heathrow Express in the airport -- if you arrive in Terminal 1, walk<br>
out through customs, walk across the arrivals hall and take the<br>
elevators down to the platform.<br>
<br>
Get off at Paddington station - it is the last stop. If you take the<br>
Express version of the train, it&#39;s also the only stop! Paddington<br>
station is, of course, where the Browns met Paddington bear - this<br>
event is memorialized with a statue of Paddington. If you&#39;d like to<br>
see this historic point, walk through the glass doors under the sushi<br>
sign, he&#39;s sitting on his luggage, near the escalator.<br>
Paddington station also has the only store devoted entirely to<br>
Paddington bear, and is also a drop-off point for the 2014 Marmalade<br>
competition.<br>
<br>
<br>
Getting from Paddington to the Hilton:<br>
You could take a cab, but the hotel is 0.4mile away, and an easy, flat<br>
walk. Took me &lt;7 minutes.<br>
Google Maps link: <a href=3D"http://goo.gl/maps/XIAE7" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tp://goo.gl/maps/XIAE7</a><br>
<br>
Walk out onto Praed street - it&#39;s the &quot;main&quot; entrance - basic=
ally<br>
continue walking in the same direction the train was going, up a ramp<br>
/ closed road.<br>
Turn left when you get onto the actual road. You will walk past<br>
Garfunkels bar and a Mercure hotel. On the 2nd or 3rd block, just<br>
before the big metal gates for St Mary&#39;s, look up =A0-- this is where S=
ir<br>
Alexander Flemming discovered Penicillium mould. Say a quick &quot;Thanks&q=
uot;,<br>
life would be substantially worse without this. I would also lose my<br>
primary excuse for keeping a messy desk.<br>
<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming" target=3D"_blank=
">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming</a><br>
<br>
Continue walking along Praed. The hotel shows up on your left, just<br>
after a Carphone Warehouse (they sell SIMs -<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/sims" target=3D"_blank">http://=
www.carphonewarehouse.com/sims</a>. I haven&#39;t checked if this is a<br>
good deal). If you reach Marks&amp;Spenser you have walked right past it.<b=
r>
Turn 180 degrees and walk in.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I happened to score a Business class ticket and arrived in LHR at<br>
9:20AM, too early to checkin to the hotel. I had a meeting before<br>
that, so I stopped in at the Star Alliance Arrivals Lounge for a<br>
shower and some breakfast -- if you are arriving early and can get<br>
access, I strongly recommend doing this (you will arrive less smelly<br>
and we will all thank you).<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki/u/London_(LHR)_Star_Alliance_Ter=
minal_1_Arrivals_Lounge" target=3D"_blank">http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki/=
u/London_(LHR)_Star_Alliance_Terminal_1_Arrivals_Lounge</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Note: This is what *I* did, doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s the best / fastest /<=
br>
cheapest / prettiest / simplest / shortest / most efficient, etc (see,<br>
I&#39;ve been on attendees@ before...)<br>
<br>
W<br>
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On 31 Jan 2014, at 15:02, Warren Kumari wrote:

> I traveled from IAD to the London Hilton Metropole this week for
> another meeting, here are some notes....
>=20
> [ WARNING ]: Use caution - This route includes a train!
>=20
> Getting into London:
> Take the Heathrow Express train - bought tickets online. For some
> reason it didn't like my Visa card (failed with a "We cannot process
> this at the moment"), used an Amex instead.
> You can get an Express Saver Return for 34GBP, or a Business First
> Return for 52GBP.
> Business First sounds much nicer, but really isn't worth the
> difference - the ride is around 20 minutes.
> Heathrow Express emails you a ticket, print it out and keep it handy
> (don't bury it in your luggage!) . There are lots of signs for
> Heathrow Express in the airport -- if you arrive in Terminal 1, walk
> out through customs, walk across the arrivals hall and take the
> elevators down to the platform.
>=20
> Get off at Paddington station - it is the last stop. If you take the
> Express version of the train, it's also the only stop! Paddington
> station is, of course, where the Browns met Paddington bear - this
> event is memorialized with a statue of Paddington. If you'd like to
> see this historic point, walk through the glass doors under the sushi
> sign, he's sitting on his luggage, near the escalator.
> Paddington station also has the only store devoted entirely to
> Paddington bear, and is also a drop-off point for the 2014 Marmalade
> competition.
>=20
>=20
> Getting from Paddington to the Hilton:
> You could take a cab, but the hotel is 0.4mile away, and an easy, flat
> walk. Took me <7 minutes.
> Google Maps link: http://goo.gl/maps/XIAE7
>=20
> Walk out onto Praed street - it's the "main" entrance - basically
> continue walking in the same direction the train was going, up a ramp
> / closed road.
> Turn left when you get onto the actual road. You will walk past
> Garfunkels bar and a Mercure hotel. On the 2nd or 3rd block, just
> before the big metal gates for St Mary's, look up  -- this is where =
Sir
> Alexander Flemming discovered Penicillium mould. Say a quick "Thanks",
> life would be substantially worse without this. I would also lose my
> primary excuse for keeping a messy desk.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming
>=20
> Continue walking along Praed. The hotel shows up on your left, just
> after a Carphone Warehouse (they sell SIMs -
> http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/sims. I haven't checked if this is a
> good deal). If you reach Marks&Spenser you have walked right past it.
> Turn 180 degrees and walk in.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> I happened to score a Business class ticket and arrived in LHR at
> 9:20AM, too early to checkin to the hotel. I had a meeting before
> that, so I stopped in at the Star Alliance Arrivals Lounge for a
> shower and some breakfast -- if you are arriving early and can get
> access, I strongly recommend doing this (you will arrive less smelly
> and we will all thank you).
> =
http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki/u/London_(LHR)_Star_Alliance_Terminal_1_Ar=
rivals_Lounge

There are also showers at Paddington which are publicly accessible for a =
fee (I think). They are by platform 1.


>=20
>=20
> Note: This is what *I* did, doesn't mean it's the best / fastest /
> cheapest / prettiest / simplest / shortest / most efficient, etc (see,
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On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Derek Atkins <DAtkins@mocana.com> wrote:
> I'll be arriving with my wife and 19-month-old daughter on Saturday.  I
> suspect they wont want to take the train.  Any idea how much a taxi
> would cost from LHR?

"London taxis are available outside each terminal. The cost to central
London is =A345 - =A370 and the journey time is approximately one hour.
Or, book a minicab or chauffeur in advance."
http://www.heathrowairport.com/transport-and-directions/taxis-and-minicabs

>
> -derek
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Hi,

> Get off at Paddington station - it is the last stop. If you take the
> Express version of the train, it's also the only stop! Paddington
> station is, of course, where the Browns met Paddington bear - this
> event is memorialized with a statue of Paddington. If you'd like to
> see this historic point, walk through the glass doors under the sushi
> sign, he's sitting on his luggage, near the escalator.
> Paddington station also has the only store devoted entirely to
> Paddington bear, and is also a drop-off point for the 2014 Marmalade
> competition.

If you travel via King's Cross station, don't forget to stop by Harry
Potter's "Platform 9 3/4"! Makes for nice photos for the family. A
baggage cart is "halfway through".

Stefan

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>=20
> Getting from Paddington to the Hilton:
> You could take a cab, but the hotel is 0.4mile away, and an easy, flat
> walk. Took me <7 minutes.
> Google Maps link: http://goo.gl/maps/XIAE7
>=20
> Walk out onto Praed street - it's the "main" entrance - basically
> continue walking in the same direction the train was going, up a ramp
> / closed road.
> Turn left when you get onto the actual road. You will walk past
> Garfunkels bar and a Mercure hotel. On the 2nd or 3rd block, just
> before the big metal gates for St Mary's, look up  -- this is where Sir=

> Alexander Flemming discovered Penicillium mould. Say a quick "Thanks",
> life would be substantially worse without this. I would also lose my
> primary excuse for keeping a messy desk.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming
>=20
> Continue walking along Praed. The hotel shows up on your left, just
> after a Carphone Warehouse (they sell SIMs -
> http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/sims. I haven't checked if this is a
> good deal). If you reach Marks&Spenser you have walked right past it.
> Turn 180 degrees and walk in.
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>=20
>=20
> I happened to score a Business class ticket and arrived in LHR at
> 9:20AM, too early to checkin to the hotel. I had a meeting before
> that, so I stopped in at the Star Alliance Arrivals Lounge for a
> shower and some breakfast -- if you are arriving early and can get
> access, I strongly recommend doing this (you will arrive less smelly
> and we will all thank you).
> http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki/u/London_(LHR)_Star_Alliance_Terminal_1=
_Arrivals_Lounge
>=20
>=20
> Note: This is what *I* did, doesn't mean it's the best / fastest /
> cheapest / prettiest / simplest / shortest / most efficient, etc (see,
> I've been on attendees@ before...)
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To be honest I would try to persuade your wife to take the Heathrow express=
 train it is much quicker and more comfortable than a London Taxi unless yo=
u book a limo.

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> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Derek Atkins <DAtkins@mocana.com>
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> > I'll be arriving with my wife and 19-month-old daughter on Saturday.
> I
> > suspect they wont want to take the train.  Any idea how much a taxi
> > would cost from LHR?
>=20
> "London taxis are available outside each terminal. The cost to central
> London is =A345 - =A370 and the journey time is approximately one hour.
> Or, book a minicab or chauffeur in advance."
> http://www.heathrowairport.com/transport-and-directions/taxis-and-
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Consider using Hailo (hailocab.com) for finding/hailing black cabs in =
London

On 31 Jan 2014, at 15:14, Warren Kumari wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Derek Atkins <DAtkins@mocana.com> =
wrote:
>> I'll be arriving with my wife and 19-month-old daughter on Saturday.  =
I
>> suspect they wont want to take the train.  Any idea how much a taxi
>> would cost from LHR?
>=20
> "London taxis are available outside each terminal. The cost to central
> London is =A345 - =A370 and the journey time is approximately one =
hour.
> Or, book a minicab or chauffeur in advance."
> =
http://www.heathrowairport.com/transport-and-directions/taxis-and-minicabs=

>=20
>>=20
>> -derek
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> I'll be arriving with my wife and 19-month-old daughter on Saturday.  I
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I've never reserved in advance for the Heathrow Express, there are
automatic ticket machines just before the elevator to the platform,
plus a ticket window. Is there any advantage to buying a ticket in
advance?


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> For those of you that want to go paperless, I took the email confirmation
> that the Heathrow Express website sent me and just cropped it down to the
> schedule and barcode and it worked just fine.
>
> Good thing, too, since the HE app is worthless.
>
> C
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> On Jan 31, 2014 9:02 AM, "Warren Kumari" <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
>>
>> I traveled from IAD to the London Hilton Metropole this week for
>> another meeting, here are some notes....
>>
>> [ WARNING ]: Use caution - This route includes a train!
>>
>> Getting into London:
>> Take the Heathrow Express train - bought tickets online. For some
>> reason it didn't like my Visa card (failed with a "We cannot process
>> this at the moment"), used an Amex instead.
>> You can get an Express Saver Return for 34GBP, or a Business First
>> Return for 52GBP.
>> Business First sounds much nicer, but really isn't worth the
>> difference - the ride is around 20 minutes.
>> Heathrow Express emails you a ticket, print it out and keep it handy
>> (don't bury it in your luggage!) . There are lots of signs for
>> Heathrow Express in the airport -- if you arrive in Terminal 1, walk
>> out through customs, walk across the arrivals hall and take the
>> elevators down to the platform.
>>
>> Get off at Paddington station - it is the last stop. If you take the
>> Express version of the train, it's also the only stop! Paddington
>> station is, of course, where the Browns met Paddington bear - this
>> event is memorialized with a statue of Paddington. If you'd like to
>> see this historic point, walk through the glass doors under the sushi
>> sign, he's sitting on his luggage, near the escalator.
>> Paddington station also has the only store devoted entirely to
>> Paddington bear, and is also a drop-off point for the 2014 Marmalade
>> competition.
>>
>>
>> Getting from Paddington to the Hilton:
>> You could take a cab, but the hotel is 0.4mile away, and an easy, flat
>> walk. Took me <7 minutes.
>> Google Maps link: http://goo.gl/maps/XIAE7
>>
>> Walk out onto Praed street - it's the "main" entrance - basically
>> continue walking in the same direction the train was going, up a ramp
>> / closed road.
>> Turn left when you get onto the actual road. You will walk past
>> Garfunkels bar and a Mercure hotel. On the 2nd or 3rd block, just
>> before the big metal gates for St Mary's, look up  -- this is where Sir
>> Alexander Flemming discovered Penicillium mould. Say a quick "Thanks",
>> life would be substantially worse without this. I would also lose my
>> primary excuse for keeping a messy desk.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming
>>
>> Continue walking along Praed. The hotel shows up on your left, just
>> after a Carphone Warehouse (they sell SIMs -
>> http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/sims. I haven't checked if this is a
>> good deal). If you reach Marks&Spenser you have walked right past it.
>> Turn 180 degrees and walk in.
>>
>>
>>
>> I happened to score a Business class ticket and arrived in LHR at
>> 9:20AM, too early to checkin to the hotel. I had a meeting before
>> that, so I stopped in at the Star Alliance Arrivals Lounge for a
>> shower and some breakfast -- if you are arriving early and can get
>> access, I strongly recommend doing this (you will arrive less smelly
>> and we will all thank you).
>>
>> http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki/u/London_(LHR)_Star_Alliance_Terminal_1_Arrivals_Lounge
>>
>>
>> Note: This is what *I* did, doesn't mean it's the best / fastest /
>> cheapest / prettiest / simplest / shortest / most efficient, etc (see,
>> I've been on attendees@ before...)
>>
>> W
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No stop at the station and if you don't mind a little cropping, no paper
ticket.

For those of you that haven't used tree service before, you get a ticket
for a specific day and it covers any train you might catch after your
arrival.

C

-- 

Colin Doyle, CCNA, F5 ASP/ATSP, Juniper JES
Director of Network Services
Verilan, Inc.
7327 SW Barnes Rd. #215
Portland, OR 97225

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On Jan 31, 2014 9:20 AM, "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've never reserved in advance for the Heathrow Express, there are
> automatic ticket machines just before the elevator to the platform,
> plus a ticket window. Is there any advantage to buying a ticket in
> advance?
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Colin Doyle <cdoyle@verilan.com> wrote:
> > For those of you that want to go paperless, I took the email confirmation
> > that the Heathrow Express website sent me and just cropped it down to the
> > schedule and barcode and it worked just fine.
> >
> > Good thing, too, since the HE app is worthless.
> >
> > C
> >
> > --
> >
> > Colin Doyle, CCNA, F5 ASP/ATSP, Juniper JES
> > Director of Network Services
> > Verilan, Inc.
> > 7327 SW Barnes Rd. #215
> > Portland, OR 97225
> >
> > +1 503.810.2129 [mobile]
> > cdoyle@verilan.com [email]
> > cdoyle.verilan [skype]
> > www.verilan.com [website]
> >
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> > On Jan 31, 2014 9:02 AM, "Warren Kumari" <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> I traveled from IAD to the London Hilton Metropole this week for
> >> another meeting, here are some notes....
> >>
> >> [ WARNING ]: Use caution - This route includes a train!
> >>
> >> Getting into London:
> >> Take the Heathrow Express train - bought tickets online. For some
> >> reason it didn't like my Visa card (failed with a "We cannot process
> >> this at the moment"), used an Amex instead.
> >> You can get an Express Saver Return for 34GBP, or a Business First
> >> Return for 52GBP.
> >> Business First sounds much nicer, but really isn't worth the
> >> difference - the ride is around 20 minutes.
> >> Heathrow Express emails you a ticket, print it out and keep it handy
> >> (don't bury it in your luggage!) . There are lots of signs for
> >> Heathrow Express in the airport -- if you arrive in Terminal 1, walk
> >> out through customs, walk across the arrivals hall and take the
> >> elevators down to the platform.
> >>
> >> Get off at Paddington station - it is the last stop. If you take the
> >> Express version of the train, it's also the only stop! Paddington
> >> station is, of course, where the Browns met Paddington bear - this
> >> event is memorialized with a statue of Paddington. If you'd like to
> >> see this historic point, walk through the glass doors under the sushi
> >> sign, he's sitting on his luggage, near the escalator.
> >> Paddington station also has the only store devoted entirely to
> >> Paddington bear, and is also a drop-off point for the 2014 Marmalade
> >> competition.
> >>
> >>
> >> Getting from Paddington to the Hilton:
> >> You could take a cab, but the hotel is 0.4mile away, and an easy, flat
> >> walk. Took me <7 minutes.
> >> Google Maps link: http://goo.gl/maps/XIAE7
> >>
> >> Walk out onto Praed street - it's the "main" entrance - basically
> >> continue walking in the same direction the train was going, up a ramp
> >> / closed road.
> >> Turn left when you get onto the actual road. You will walk past
> >> Garfunkels bar and a Mercure hotel. On the 2nd or 3rd block, just
> >> before the big metal gates for St Mary's, look up  -- this is where Sir
> >> Alexander Flemming discovered Penicillium mould. Say a quick "Thanks",
> >> life would be substantially worse without this. I would also lose my
> >> primary excuse for keeping a messy desk.
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming
> >>
> >> Continue walking along Praed. The hotel shows up on your left, just
> >> after a Carphone Warehouse (they sell SIMs -
> >> http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/sims. I haven't checked if this is a
> >> good deal). If you reach Marks&Spenser you have walked right past it.
> >> Turn 180 degrees and walk in.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I happened to score a Business class ticket and arrived in LHR at
> >> 9:20AM, too early to checkin to the hotel. I had a meeting before
> >> that, so I stopped in at the Star Alliance Arrivals Lounge for a
> >> shower and some breakfast -- if you are arriving early and can get
> >> access, I strongly recommend doing this (you will arrive less smelly
> >> and we will all thank you).
> >>
> >>
> http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki/u/London_(LHR)_Star_Alliance_Terminal_1_Arrivals_Lounge
> >>
> >>
> >> Note: This is what *I* did, doesn't mean it's the best / fastest /
> >> cheapest / prettiest / simplest / shortest / most efficient, etc (see,
> >> I've been on attendees@ before...)
> >>
> >> W
> >> _______________________________________________
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 after your arrival.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">C</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">-- <br></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Colin Doyle, CCNA, F5 ASP/ATSP, Juniper JES<br>
Director of Network Services<br>
Verilan, Inc.<br>
7327 SW Barnes Rd. #215<br>
Portland, OR 97225</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">+1 503.810.2129 [mobile]<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:cdoyle@verilan.com">cdoyle@verilan.com</a> [email]<br>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jan 31, 2014 9:20 AM, &quot;Andrew G. Malis&q=
uot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com">agmalis@gmail.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I&#39;ve never reserved in advance for the Heathrow Express, there are<br>
automatic ticket machines just before the elevator to the platform,<br>
plus a ticket window. Is there any advantage to buying a ticket in<br>
advance?<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Colin Doyle &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cdoyle@=
verilan.com">cdoyle@verilan.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; For those of you that want to go paperless, I took the email confirmat=
ion<br>
&gt; that the Heathrow Express website sent me and just cropped it down to =
the<br>
&gt; schedule and barcode and it worked just fine.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Good thing, too, since the HE app is worthless.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; C<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Colin Doyle, CCNA, F5 ASP/ATSP, Juniper JES<br>
&gt; Director of Network Services<br>
&gt; Verilan, Inc.<br>
&gt; 7327 SW Barnes Rd. #215<br>
&gt; Portland, OR 97225<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"tel:%2B1%20503.810.2129" value=3D"+15038102129">+1 503.810.=
2129</a> [mobile]<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:cdoyle@verilan.com">cdoyle@verilan.com</a> [email]<b=
r>
&gt; cdoyle.verilan [skype]<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.verilan.com" target=3D"_blank">www.verilan.com</=
a> [website]<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; This e-mail contains proprietary information and may be confidential. =
If you<br>
&gt; are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified=
 that<br>
&gt; any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly=
<br>
&gt; prohibited. If you received this message in error, please delete it<br=
>
&gt; immediately.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Jan 31, 2014 9:02 AM, &quot;Warren Kumari&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:warren@kumari.net">warren@kumari.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I traveled from IAD to the London Hilton Metropole this week for<b=
r>
&gt;&gt; another meeting, here are some notes....<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; [ WARNING ]: Use caution - This route includes a train!<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Getting into London:<br>
&gt;&gt; Take the Heathrow Express train - bought tickets online. For some<=
br>
&gt;&gt; reason it didn&#39;t like my Visa card (failed with a &quot;We can=
not process<br>
&gt;&gt; this at the moment&quot;), used an Amex instead.<br>
&gt;&gt; You can get an Express Saver Return for 34GBP, or a Business First=
<br>
&gt;&gt; Return for 52GBP.<br>
&gt;&gt; Business First sounds much nicer, but really isn&#39;t worth the<b=
r>
&gt;&gt; difference - the ride is around 20 minutes.<br>
&gt;&gt; Heathrow Express emails you a ticket, print it out and keep it han=
dy<br>
&gt;&gt; (don&#39;t bury it in your luggage!) . There are lots of signs for=
<br>
&gt;&gt; Heathrow Express in the airport -- if you arrive in Terminal 1, wa=
lk<br>
&gt;&gt; out through customs, walk across the arrivals hall and take the<br=
>
&gt;&gt; elevators down to the platform.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Get off at Paddington station - it is the last stop. If you take t=
he<br>
&gt;&gt; Express version of the train, it&#39;s also the only stop! Padding=
ton<br>
&gt;&gt; station is, of course, where the Browns met Paddington bear - this=
<br>
&gt;&gt; event is memorialized with a statue of Paddington. If you&#39;d li=
ke to<br>
&gt;&gt; see this historic point, walk through the glass doors under the su=
shi<br>
&gt;&gt; sign, he&#39;s sitting on his luggage, near the escalator.<br>
&gt;&gt; Paddington station also has the only store devoted entirely to<br>
&gt;&gt; Paddington bear, and is also a drop-off point for the 2014 Marmala=
de<br>
&gt;&gt; competition.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Getting from Paddington to the Hilton:<br>
&gt;&gt; You could take a cab, but the hotel is 0.4mile away, and an easy, =
flat<br>
&gt;&gt; walk. Took me &lt;7 minutes.<br>
&gt;&gt; Google Maps link: <a href=3D"http://goo.gl/maps/XIAE7" target=3D"_=
blank">http://goo.gl/maps/XIAE7</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Walk out onto Praed street - it&#39;s the &quot;main&quot; entranc=
e - basically<br>
&gt;&gt; continue walking in the same direction the train was going, up a r=
amp<br>
&gt;&gt; / closed road.<br>
&gt;&gt; Turn left when you get onto the actual road. You will walk past<br=
>
&gt;&gt; Garfunkels bar and a Mercure hotel. On the 2nd or 3rd block, just<=
br>
&gt;&gt; before the big metal gates for St Mary&#39;s, look up =A0-- this i=
s where Sir<br>
&gt;&gt; Alexander Flemming discovered Penicillium mould. Say a quick &quot=
;Thanks&quot;,<br>
&gt;&gt; life would be substantially worse without this. I would also lose =
my<br>
&gt;&gt; primary excuse for keeping a messy desk.<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming" target=
=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Continue walking along Praed. The hotel shows up on your left, jus=
t<br>
&gt;&gt; after a Carphone Warehouse (they sell SIMs -<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/sims" target=3D"_blank=
">http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/sims</a>. I haven&#39;t checked if this =
is a<br>
&gt;&gt; good deal). If you reach Marks&amp;Spenser you have walked right p=
ast it.<br>
&gt;&gt; Turn 180 degrees and walk in.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I happened to score a Business class ticket and arrived in LHR at<=
br>
&gt;&gt; 9:20AM, too early to checkin to the hotel. I had a meeting before<=
br>
&gt;&gt; that, so I stopped in at the Star Alliance Arrivals Lounge for a<b=
r>
&gt;&gt; shower and some breakfast -- if you are arriving early and can get=
<br>
&gt;&gt; access, I strongly recommend doing this (you will arrive less smel=
ly<br>
&gt;&gt; and we will all thank you).<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki/u/London_(LHR)_Star_All=
iance_Terminal_1_Arrivals_Lounge" target=3D"_blank">http://www.loungeguide.=
net/wiki/u/London_(LHR)_Star_Alliance_Terminal_1_Arrivals_Lounge</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Note: This is what *I* did, doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s the best / f=
astest /<br>
&gt;&gt; cheapest / prettiest / simplest / shortest / most efficient, etc (=
see,<br>
&gt;&gt; I&#39;ve been on attendees@ before...)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; W<br>
&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt; 89attendees mailing list<br>
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r>
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Cc: Colin Doyle <cdoyle@verilan.com>, "89attendees@ietf.org" <89attendees@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [89attendees] Getting to the Hilton Metropole.
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+1. It's a more civilised experience than a cab ride and much quicker.

Robert

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Subject: Re: [89attendees] Getting to the Hilton Metropole.

To be honest I would try to persuade your wife to take the Heathrow express=
 train it is much quicker and more comfortable than a London Taxi unless yo=
u book a limo.

Regards
Andy

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> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Derek Atkins <DAtkins@mocana.com>
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> > I'll be arriving with my wife and 19-month-old daughter on Saturday.
> I
> > suspect they wont want to take the train.  Any idea how much a taxi
> > would cost from LHR?
>
> "London taxis are available outside each terminal. The cost to central
> London is =A345 - =A370 and the journey time is approximately one hour.
> Or, book a minicab or chauffeur in advance."
> http://www.heathrowairport.com/transport-and-directions/taxis-and-
> minicabs
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> > -derek
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Derek - there are lifts to and from the HE platforms at Heathrow and =
Paddington so it's quite accessible with luggage and a child; much more =
so than many London train and tube stations.  As Warren pointed out, =
it's a short walk from Paddington to the Hilton.

I've never found the trains themselves to be very crowded.

- Ralph

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> +1. It's a more civilised experience than a cab ride and much quicker.
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>>> I'll be arriving with my wife and 19-month-old daughter on Saturday.
>> I
>>> suspect they wont want to take the train.  Any idea how much a taxi
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>>=20
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On 31 Jan 2014, at 15:35, Derek Atkins wrote:

> We're not staying at the Hilton; we're at the Marriott Marble Arch.

Google Maps is right, Marble Arch is about 15 minutes gentle walk from =
Paddington.=20

> Google Maps claims it is 0.7 miles from Paddington, but my wife might
> want to grab a taxi for the last mile -- we'll have to see :)  I do
> think I've convinced her at least to take the HE Train.

The High Explosive train?

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> On Fri, 2014-01-31 at 07:30 -0800, Ralph Droms wrote:
>> Derek - there are lifts to and from the HE platforms at Heathrow and =
Paddington so it's quite accessible with luggage and a child; much more =
so than many London train and tube stations.  As Warren pointed out, =
it's a short walk from Paddington to the Hilton.
>>=20
>> I've never found the trains themselves to be very crowded.
>>=20
>> - Ralph
>>=20
>> On Jan 31, 2014, at 10:26 AM 1/31/14, Robert Cragie =
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>>=20
>>> +1. It's a more civilised experience than a cab ride and much =
quicker.
>>>=20
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>>>>> I'll be arriving with my wife and 19-month-old daughter on =
Saturday.
>>>> I
>>>>> suspect they wont want to take the train.  Any idea how much a =
taxi
>>>>> would cost from LHR?
>>>>=20
>>>> "London taxis are available outside each terminal. The cost to =
central
>>>> London is =A345 - =A370 and the journey time is approximately one =
hour.
>>>> Or, book a minicab or chauffeur in advance."
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Le 2014-01-31 10:38, Toby Moncaster a écrit :
>> I do think I've convinced her at least to take the HE Train.
>
> The High Explosive train?

Happy Eyeballs. The view from it is really nice.

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Showers in England are generally useless, you'll get more
water and pressure out of a spray bottle. This is largely
because of the very odd notion Brits have about plumbing.
(Don't ask, but it basically involves a tank in the attic
wherin a dead pigeon usually floats).

;-)

They have goos beer and the food has improved somewhat 
since I live there in the 1980s.

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That will be VERY expensive, as in 60-65 pounds.

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On Fri, 31 Jan 2014, Derek Atkins wrote:

> I'll be arriving with my wife and 19-month-old daughter on Saturday.  I
> suspect they wont want to take the train.  Any idea how much a taxi
> would cost from LHR?
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On Jan 31, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> wrote:

> I traveled from IAD to the London Hilton Metropole this week for
> another meeting, here are some notes....
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> [ WARNING ]: Use caution - This route includes a train!
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> Getting into London:
> Take the Heathrow Express train - bought tickets online. For some
> reason it didn't like my Visa card (failed with a "We cannot process
> this at the moment"), used an Amex instead.
> You can get an Express Saver Return for 34GBP, or a Business First
> Return for 52GBP.
> Business First sounds much nicer, but really isn't worth the
> difference - the ride is around 20 minutes.
> Heathrow Express emails you a ticket, print it out and keep it handy
> (don't bury it in your luggage!) . There are lots of signs for
> Heathrow Express in the airport -- if you arrive in Terminal 1, walk
> out through customs, walk across the arrivals hall and take the
> elevators down to the platform.
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> Get off at Paddington station - it is the last stop. If you take the
> Express version of the train, it's also the only stop! Paddington
> station is, of course, where the Browns met Paddington bear - this
> event is memorialized with a statue of Paddington. If you'd like to
> see this historic point, walk through the glass doors under the sushi
> sign, he's sitting on his luggage, near the escalator.
> Paddington station also has the only store devoted entirely to
> Paddington bear, and is also a drop-off point for the 2014 Marmalade
> competition.
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>=20
> Getting from Paddington to the Hilton:
> You could take a cab, but the hotel is 0.4mile away, and an easy, flat
> walk. Took me <7 minutes.
> Google Maps link: http://goo.gl/maps/XIAE7
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> Walk out onto Praed street - it's the "main" entrance - basically
> continue walking in the same direction the train was going, up a ramp
> / closed road.
> Turn left when you get onto the actual road. You will walk past
> Garfunkels bar and a Mercure hotel. On the 2nd or 3rd block, just
> before the big metal gates for St Mary's, look up  -- this is where =
Sir
> Alexander Flemming discovered Penicillium mould. Say a quick "Thanks",
> life would be substantially worse without this. I would also lose my
> primary excuse for keeping a messy desk.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fleming
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> Continue walking along Praed. The hotel shows up on your left, just
> after a Carphone Warehouse (they sell SIMs -
> http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/sims. I haven't checked if this is a
> good deal). If you reach Marks&Spenser you have walked right past it.
> Turn 180 degrees and walk in.
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> I happened to score a Business class ticket and arrived in LHR at
> 9:20AM, too early to checkin to the hotel. I had a meeting before
> that, so I stopped in at the Star Alliance Arrivals Lounge for a
> shower and some breakfast -- if you are arriving early and can get
> access, I strongly recommend doing this (you will arrive less smelly
> and we will all thank you).
> =
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> Note: This is what *I* did, doesn't mean it's the best / fastest /
> cheapest / prettiest / simplest / shortest / most efficient, etc (see,
> I've been on attendees@ before...)
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