From nobody Mon Mar 7 09:51:13 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfc.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfc.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfc.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE1A1CD700 for <95attendees@ietfc.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:51:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfc.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.41]) by localhost (ietfc.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7odMmsekNnqa for <95attendees@ietfc.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-yw0-x22c.google.com (mail-yw0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfc.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E11871CD6FD for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yw0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id h129so99722445ywb.1 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 09:51:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=XjmWFWGwO/hG7/+sljHfWZomvF1sqUhnnGRZ7SYik8g=; b=Nq8x18CV4YSlhMl6b5VDXzigaLd9msKNNiRRWF+nk3O4P+Bv/mXgn9vqF0mpHec59M DsakooZ3wX5tkCfjze4OsuQllYBCzH2/L6bjdQqY08boSCmaU/7MEnhoW09bEF3p6/0F 4JRuq3S+MslAkWCLWMi4Z+4RKZldi1CDQ4b6dpddvLwHNTMQyQ20swFjd4cEmcDYWjro s5+oDxky37ebJWR8nhm86dQHT+J+cymf98Ko5xe4lUA4D55bVvV9JvkpAF/xvPnZDFQ8 MIsNCKgrNsIAcDLJCihSCk0FYftXeXQolpdEOQfuPsk2UDkHN+9IrClf3am/nSRPpdhF lOTQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=XjmWFWGwO/hG7/+sljHfWZomvF1sqUhnnGRZ7SYik8g=; b=Q15xii4dmPKcFCGa3bvioQgyHSN0t9xU4BI+Fa8tnOP+hs/Dn56QWkRypUo3/LMEtT h9VCX+SvjuGQiIkcd2t46aravfMKsVTdfTpl/C//hWXiOC/OEXiwtApXbFkz+55VI9BG wmHYNyX1XYCT6c8SOlCkkmJ4oC+LzgZsN5giHj7Gg+nMAVzaVob51YAGYSy92qyyyfaS 0EaKYEshzA51wBV9PyFK663HkohDEif6scrPNzBkoFwqNaxpi1mpS0ti3RiEuwwr4Zur Q1nv2ldseyVJVddohgfZVrkNQtHOoGQ56nIIfj/xJvyMmTnaPTY6i1xdNBCyl65yhNk5 EeaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJXr0TQ9NreANi98iSZWirHOyyDeFLRBVXNWhkB4CYT1UvoRQoEAm3GAaNYrH2MGW+9QoJ8llMoV+mfnQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.2.136 with SMTP id 130mr12957899ywc.340.1457373067123; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 09:51:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.37.70.198 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:51:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:51:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Aaron Falk To: 95attendees@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140c288f8a680052d791be0 Archived-At: Subject: [95attendees] agenda times X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 17:51:12 -0000 --001a1140c288f8a680052d791be0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Just realized the IETF agenda has a 1hr (local) offset. Starts at 10:00, lunch at 12:30. Did I miss a discussion of agenda times? Does this have to do with local restaurants or is it a change that will live beyond IETF-95? --aaron --001a1140c288f8a680052d791be0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just realized the IETF agenda has a 1hr (local) offset.=C2= =A0 Starts at 10:00, lunch at 12:30.=C2=A0 Did I miss a discussion of agend= a times?=C2=A0 Does this have to do with local restaurants or is it a chang= e that will live beyond IETF-95?

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HTTP; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:59:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5b555fa3e16443a0b0ba3a6a6bf8f65f@usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com> References: <5b555fa3e16443a0b0ba3a6a6bf8f65f@usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:59:18 -0300 Message-ID: From: Diego Dujovne To: "Salz, Rich" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013a1a383bfbf9052d793959 Archived-At: Cc: Aaron Falk , "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [95attendees] agenda times X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 17:59:33 -0000 --089e013a1a383bfbf9052d793959 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I can confirm that in Buenos Aires people are used to have lunch at 1PM and dinner at 9 PM. Regards, Diego On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: > Local eating habits. > > > > -- > > Senior Architect, Akamai Technologies > > IM: richsalz@jabber.at Twitter: RichSalz > > > > *From:* Aaron Falk [mailto:aaron.falk@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 12:51 PM > *To:* 95attendees@ietf.org > *Subject:* [95attendees] agenda times > > > > Just realized the IETF agenda has a 1hr (local) offset. Starts at 10:00, > lunch at 12:30. Did I miss a discussion of agenda times? 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I can confirm that in Buenos Aires peo= ple
are used to have lunch at 1PM and dinner
at 9 PM.
Regards,

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On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.c= om> wrote:

Local eating habits.

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Just realized the IETF agenda has a 1hr (local) offs= et.=C2=A0 Starts at 10:00, lunch at 12:30.=C2=A0 Did I miss a discussion of= agenda times?=C2=A0 Does this have to do with local restaurants or is it a= change that will live beyond IETF-95?

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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 18:22:18 -0000 --001a1137b81c61d519052d798b91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Mehmet, I agree. Putting this into a historical context, Buenos Aires was (first) founded in 1536 by the Spanish. 280 years after (1816) the Independence was declared. In the end of the XIX century, a strong immigration wave came from Europe, mostly from Italy. As a consequence, lunch and dinner times may have been influenced by both countries' habits. Regards, Diego On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich) < mehmet.ersue@nokia.com> wrote: > Sounds like Spanish timing of the day. > > > > Cheers, > Mehmet > > > > *From:* 95attendees [mailto:95attendees-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *EXT > Diego Dujovne > *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 6:59 PM > *To:* Salz, Rich > *Cc:* Aaron Falk ; 95attendees@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [95attendees] agenda times > > > > I can confirm that in Buenos Aires people > > are used to have lunch at 1PM and dinner > > at 9 PM. > > Regards, > > Diego > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: > > Local eating habits. > > > > -- > > Senior Architect, Akamai Technologies > > IM: richsalz@jabber.at Twitter: RichSalz > > > > *From:* Aaron Falk [mailto:aaron.falk@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 12:51 PM > *To:* 95attendees@ietf.org > *Subject:* [95attendees] agenda times > > > > Just realized the IETF agenda has a 1hr (local) offset. Starts at 10:00, > lunch at 12:30. Did I miss a discussion of agenda times? Does this have > to do with local restaurants or is it a change that will live beyond > IETF-95? > > > > --aaron > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > --001a1137b81c61d519052d798b91 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mehmet,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I agree. Putting this into a = historical context,
Buenos Aires was (first) founded in 1536 by th= e Spanish.
280 years after (1816) the Independence was declared.
In the end of the XIX century, a strong immigration
=
wave came from Europe, mostly from Italy.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 As a consequence, lunch and dinn= er times
may have been influenced by both countries' habi= ts.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 Regards,

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On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3= :04 PM, Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich) <mehmet.ersue@nokia.com= > wrote:

Sounds like Spanish timing of the day= .

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Cheers,
Mehmet

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From: 95attendees [mailto:95attendees-bounces= @ietf.org] On Behalf Of EXT Diego Dujovne
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 6:59 PM
To: Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>
Cc: Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com>; 95attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [95attendees] agenda times

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I can confirm that in Buenos Aires people<= /u>

are used to have lunch at 1PM and dinner

at 9 PM.

Regards,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Diego<= /p>

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On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> w= rote:

Local eating habits.=

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--=C2=A0

Senior Architect, Akamai Technologies=

IM: richsalz@jabber.at<= /a> Twitter: RichSalz

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From: Aaro= n Falk [mailto:aar= on.falk@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 12:51 PM
To: 95atte= ndees@ietf.org
Subject: [95attendees] agenda times

=C2=A0

Just realized the IETF agenda has a 1hr (local) offs= et.=C2=A0 Starts at 10:00, lunch at 12:30.=C2=A0 Did I miss a discussion of= agenda times?=C2=A0 Does this have to do with local restaurants or is it a change that will live beyond IETF-95?

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--aaron


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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 18:57:16 -0000 I had lunch in Madrid and missed my evening plane. But it was worth it ;-) We could have used a 30 min time change in paris as well. The restaurants all opened the doors only at noon. Nice to see the IETF has become more flexible. On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 03:22:16PM -0300, Diego Dujovne wrote: > Mehmet, > I agree. Putting this into a historical context, > Buenos Aires was (first) founded in 1536 by the Spanish. > 280 years after (1816) the Independence was declared. > In the end of the XIX century, a strong immigration > wave came from Europe, mostly from Italy. > As a consequence, lunch and dinner times > may have been influenced by both countries' habits. > Regards, > > Diego > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich) < > mehmet.ersue@nokia.com> wrote: > > > Sounds like Spanish timing of the day. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > Mehmet > > > > > > > > *From:* 95attendees [mailto:95attendees-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *EXT > > Diego Dujovne > > *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 6:59 PM > > *To:* Salz, Rich > > *Cc:* Aaron Falk ; 95attendees@ietf.org > > *Subject:* Re: [95attendees] agenda times > > > > > > > > I can confirm that in Buenos Aires people > > > > are used to have lunch at 1PM and dinner > > > > at 9 PM. > > > > Regards, > > > > Diego > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: > > > > Local eating habits. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Senior Architect, Akamai Technologies > > > > IM: richsalz@jabber.at Twitter: RichSalz > > > > > > > > *From:* Aaron Falk [mailto:aaron.falk@gmail.com] > > *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 12:51 PM > > *To:* 95attendees@ietf.org > > *Subject:* [95attendees] agenda times > > > > > > > > Just realized the IETF agenda has a 1hr (local) offset. Starts at 10:00, > > lunch at 12:30. Did I miss a discussion of agenda times? Does this have > > to do with local restaurants or is it a change that will live beyond > > IETF-95? > > > > > > > > --aaron > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 95attendees mailing list > > 95attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@cisco.com From nobody Mon Mar 7 14:28:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfc.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfc.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfc.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280891CDCDB for <95attendees@ietfc.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:27:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfc.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.41]) by localhost (ietfc.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QcpMoAqLqJE8 for <95attendees@ietfc.amsl.com>; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:27:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vk0-x233.google.com (mail-vk0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfc.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AF3C1CDCC7 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 14:27:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-vk0-x233.google.com with SMTP id e6so134386298vkh.2 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 14:27:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=omE6WBi8jFF1ZvNklrKYU+WoblX+gQ3hLxy0805q/PE=; b=joLNnyXagMcprKWJ46WX11qyakjC29TgNBHIUwQgjZbACjMYLUML71WK/i7IrJnJw1 ktgXXBeIYxIJ7cPCs5q+nmHbMhpK+hkkwB9Yw33eomjL2cAKhw+4boCZJEyg3PDDs+8j QxPJOYC7GekvCwuvg+8iZNJ+8c8g+OUMXyjmztP8igXvW/QeGgT/LH8CJneivCtD34ZB u2oxbb07wUmj+CkGXCO3PiHtYTsMVL6xrvtAcKKblDIZFdykcpDegWkV9SFxOriETDpZ oqoLO/RoiaAIRTsbBWEHD6IwST2xLXnfLYeWuRqqYz5zc3izzZLZduOinUdWgafaQBaN 1OgA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=omE6WBi8jFF1ZvNklrKYU+WoblX+gQ3hLxy0805q/PE=; b=GOfvlQ5tZoNyIu4Bab8OiSH/5SKP+Si8/vAZbH//kOUnWeRd4Ik/K5NuWIoyo0US5k xoqos41lK8fDErj8kF0ZDVS/mvs5qUv7tIfuMNqwK0gWZUWnifxDy5q1Z6dksjUL1qlG 8kuOntTP1fwao6rIGQQmWSJ8PZSMOH2fPl2eIrGFwLtUngFgvm+kyVQ0UikbyJ7c6bej R4jLZHhKYGwVUEWURvN6xNvxkhfI3H3SqxIt6Xh3BfmGnKFXjD8TUnIBfC8fWY2Zwpbz HbSwM/WHITfHzucugG1nN4yqbfTt6LSFpMMDnNzZJw5BEJhW4iiKNZn6ygUA/Cse421R x37g== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIMk1buoeyg07ZuCXwhnBkhK1ZPWXTD83vB7Bv3mOwPXwKCsMeJr3TMPtSzMC3v6TU/Je4eUrPXhbA4qQ== X-Received: by 10.31.5.9 with SMTP id 9mr22978719vkf.109.1457389676536; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 14:27:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5b555fa3e16443a0b0ba3a6a6bf8f65f@usma1ex-dag1mb1.msg.corp.akamai.com> In-Reply-To: From: Pedro Correa Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:27:47 +0000 Message-ID: To: Diego Dujovne , "Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1143f272f82b4c052d7cf949 Archived-At: Cc: Aaron Falk , "Salz, Rich" , "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [95attendees] agenda times X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:27:59 -0000 --001a1143f272f82b4c052d7cf949 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys whats up :) I'm new at the mail list, i live near Buenos Aires. I also can say that eating habbits are accurate but for me I dinner at midnight lol Grettings El lun, 7 de marzo de 2016 15:22, Diego Dujovne escribi=C3=B3: > Mehmet, > I agree. Putting this into a historical context, > Buenos Aires was (first) founded in 1536 by the Spanish. > 280 years after (1816) the Independence was declared. > In the end of the XIX century, a strong immigration > wave came from Europe, mostly from Italy. > As a consequence, lunch and dinner times > may have been influenced by both countries' habits. > Regards, > > Diego > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich) < > mehmet.ersue@nokia.com> wrote: > >> Sounds like Spanish timing of the day. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> Mehmet >> >> >> >> *From:* 95attendees [mailto:95attendees-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of = *EXT >> Diego Dujovne >> *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 6:59 PM >> *To:* Salz, Rich >> *Cc:* Aaron Falk ; 95attendees@ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [95attendees] agenda times >> >> >> >> I can confirm that in Buenos Aires people >> >> are used to have lunch at 1PM and dinner >> >> at 9 PM. >> >> Regards, >> >> Diego >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Salz, Rich wrote: >> >> Local eating habits. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Senior Architect, Akamai Technologies >> >> IM: richsalz@jabber.at Twitter: RichSalz >> >> >> >> *From:* Aaron Falk [mailto:aaron.falk@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, March 07, 2016 12:51 PM >> *To:* 95attendees@ietf.org >> *Subject:* [95attendees] agenda times >> >> >> >> Just realized the IETF agenda has a 1hr (local) offset. Starts at 10:00= , >> lunch at 12:30. Did I miss a discussion of agenda times? Does this hav= e >> to do with local restaurants or is it a change that will live beyond >> IETF-95? >> >> >> >> --aaron >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > --001a1143f272f82b4c052d7cf949 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi guys whats up :) I'm new at the mail list, i live nea= r Buenos Aires. I also can say that eating habbits are accurate but for me = I dinner at midnight lol

Grettings


El lun, 7 de marzo de 2016 = 15:22, Diego Dujovne <diego.d= ujovne@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3:
Mehmet,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I agree. Putting this i= nto a historical context,
Buenos Aires was (first) founded in 1536= by the Spanish.
280 years after (1816) the Independence was decla= red.
In the end of the XIX century, a strong immigration
=
wave came from Europe, mostly from Italy.
=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 As a consequence, lunch an= d dinner times
may have been influenced by both countries'= ; habits.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 Regards,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Diego
<= div class=3D"gmail_extra">
On Mon, Mar 7, 201= 6 at 3:04 PM, Ersue, Mehmet (Nokia - DE/Munich) <mehmet.ersue@nokia.c= om> wrote:

Sounds like Spanish timing of the day= .

=C2=A0

Cheers,
Mehmet

=C2=A0

From: 95attendees [mailto:95attendees-bounces= @ietf.org] On Behalf Of EXT Diego Dujovne
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 6:59 PM
To: Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com>
Cc: Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@gmail.com>; 95attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [95attendees] agenda times

=C2=A0

I can confirm that in Buenos Aires people<= /u>

are used to have lunch at 1PM and dinner

at 9 PM.

Regards,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Diego<= /p>

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> w= rote:

Local eating habits.=

=C2=A0

--=C2=A0

Senior Architect, Akamai Technologies=

IM: richsalz@jabber.at<= /a> Twitter: RichSalz

=C2=A0

From: Aaro= n Falk [mailto:aar= on.falk@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 12:51 PM
To: 95atte= ndees@ietf.org
Subject: [95attendees] agenda times

=C2=A0

Just realized the IETF agenda has a 1hr (local) offs= et.=C2=A0 Starts at 10:00, lunch at 12:30.=C2=A0 Did I miss a discussion of= agenda times?=C2=A0 Does this have to do with local restaurants or is it a change that will live beyond IETF-95?

=C2=A0

--aaron


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You may sign up by filling out the form at: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/XBWQWPW These events fill up quickly. =C2=A0We accept only 15 mentees for each even= t. =C2=A0Last time, all slots were taken in less than 8 hours. =C2=A0We onl= y had 10 slots open last time & have tripled our capacity this time, so hop= efully, more people can be served. =C2=A0We will have a waiting list. =C2= =A0 The event operates as follows:=20 ----------------------------------------=C2=A0 We will have 15 mentees and 15 mentors (experienced IETF contributors) in e= ach session. Each mentee will talk to a mentor for 5 minutes. Then, the coo= rdinator will announce "Switch". The mentee will then rotate to a new posit= ion.=20 The goal of the event is to help to quickly build the mentee's network of c= ontacts within the IETF. The more people you know and feel comfortable talking with, the smoother yo= ur experience at the IETF will be. For example, if you are at a session and= do not understand what is going on, you may now already know someone you m= ay question. If you have a draft underway, you may ask advice of these peop= le. If you want to know how to best contribute, you have people you may go = to.=20 During the Speed Mentoring session, mentees may talk to mentors about speci= fic RFCs or drafts that the mentor has authored or co-authored.=C2=A0 Alternatively, you have some suggested questions below, or, of course, you = may improvise:=20 1. What do you feel is your most important contribution to the IETF?=20 2. What is the most important thing that I should know about the IETF?=20 3. Why is the IETF important? Why have you spent so much of your time willi= ngly contributing to it.=20 =C2=A0 Thanks, Nalini ElkinsIETF Mentoring Team CEO and FounderInside Products, Inc. www.insidethestack.com (831) 659-8360 ------=_Part_5106063_1804246930.1457533051032 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,

We will again be h= aving our popular Speed Mentoring events in Buenos Aires.  This event = is open to attendees who have participated in fewer than 5 IETF meetings li= ve.   (If you have attended more but wish to be considered for the men= toring program, please email me unicast at nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com & we can discuss.)

<= /div>
The events are schedul= ed for Sunday, April 3 at noon and Monday, April 4 at 8:30am.=

You may sign up by filling out the form at:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r= /XBWQWPW

These e= vents fill up quickly.  We accept only 15 mentees for each event. &nbs= p;Last time, all slots were taken in less than 8 hours.  We only had 1= 0 slots open last time & have tripled our capacity this time, so hopefu= lly, more people can be served.  We will have a waiting list.  

The event operates as follows:=20
---------------------------------------- 

We will have 15 mentees and 15 mentors (experienced IETF contributors) = in each session. Each mentee will talk to a mentor for 5 minutes. Then, th= e coordinator will announce "Switch". The mentee will then rotate to a new = position.=20

The goal of the event is to help to quickly build the mentee's network = of contacts within the IETF.

The more people you know and feel comfortable talking with, the smoothe= r your experience at the IETF will be. For example, if you are at a sessio= n and do not understand what is going on, you may now already know someone = you may question. If you have a draft underway, you may ask advice of thes= e people. If you want to know how to best contribute, you have people you= may go to.=20

During the Speed Mentoring session, mentees may talk to mentors about s= pecific RFCs or drafts that the mentor has authored or co-authored. 
Alternatively, you have some suggested questions below, or, of course, = you may improvise:=20

1. What do you feel is your most important contribution to the IETF?=20
2. What is the most important thing that I should know about the IETF?= =20
3. Why is the IETF important? Why have you spent so much of your time w= illingly contributing to it.=20

 
Thanks,

Nalini Elkins
IETF Me= ntoring Team

CEO and Founder
Inside Products,= Inc.
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------=_Part_5106063_1804246930.1457533051032-- From nobody Thu Mar 10 08:52:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E3012DA2A; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:39:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.922 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.922 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t0tPNskUW4wt; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:39:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx143.netapp.com (mx143.netapp.com [216.240.21.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE5AB12DA3E; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:39:48 -0800 (PST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.24,316,1455004800"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="101865994" Received: from hioexcmbx07-prd.hq.netapp.com ([10.122.105.40]) by mx143-out.netapp.com with ESMTP; 10 Mar 2016 08:34:47 -0800 Received: from HIOEXCMBX07-PRD.hq.netapp.com (10.122.105.40) by hioexcmbx07-prd.hq.netapp.com (10.122.105.40) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1156.6; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:34:47 -0800 Received: from HIOEXCMBX07-PRD.hq.netapp.com ([::1]) by hioexcmbx07-prd.hq.netapp.com ([fe80::2562:be45:d6a5:1743%21]) with mapi id 15.00.1156.000; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:34:47 -0800 From: "Eggert, Lars" To: "irtf-announce@irtf.org" , "ietf@ietf.org" , "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org> Thread-Topic: ANRP presentations at IETF-95 Thread-Index: AQHReurCs/lMNFyXgkaO/sODRYQ1Dw== Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:34:47 +0000 Message-ID: <492694C0-1033-41FB-A06B-63648F143E7E@netapp.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.120.60.34] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_28317D0E-9B99-4DA5-A8C6-8E123AB1A033"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:52:01 -0800 Subject: [95attendees] ANRP presentations at IETF-95 X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: "anrp@irtf.org" List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 16:39:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_28317D0E-9B99-4DA5-A8C6-8E123AB1A033 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, we are extremely pleased to report that for the 2016 award period of the Applied Networking Research Prize (ANRP), 53 eligible nominations were received. Each submission was reviewed by several members of the selection committee selection committee according to a diverse set of criteria, including scientific excellence and substance, timeliness, relevance, and potential impact on the Internet. Based on this review, six submissions are awarded an Applied Networking Research Prize in 2016. Two prize winners will present their work at the IRTF Open Meeting during IETF-95 in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The ANRPs for IETF-95 go to: *** Roya Ensafi *** for examining how the Chinese "great firewall" discovers hidden circumvention servers: Roya Ensafi, David Fifield, Philipp Winter, Nick Feamster, Nicholas Weaver, and Vern Paxson. Examining How the Great Firewall Discovers Hidden Circumvention Servers. Proc. ACM Internet Measurement Conference (IMC), Tokyo, Japan, October 28-30, 2015. *** Zakir Durumeric *** for an empirical analysis of email delivery security: Zakir Durumeric, David Adrian, Ariana Mirian, James Kasten, Elie Bursztein, Nicolas Lidzborski, Kurt Thomas, Vijay Eranti, Michael Bailey, and J. Alex Halderman. Neither Snow Nor Rain Nor MITM=E2=80=A6= An Empirical Analysis of Email Delivery Security. Proc. ACM Internet Measurement Conference (IMC), Tokyo, Japan, October 28-30, 2015. 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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:14:02 -0000 >Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of Argentina collapsed offering a unique natural show. >I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as we’re close to the meeting and the "bridge†started >eroding some weeks go. This is one of the few glaciers that keeps growing despite global warming. The previous >bridge collapse happened in 2012. > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_Glacier Oh, drat. The glacier is only 2,800 km from the hotel, so we could have taken a taxi over to look at it during a lunch break. R's, John From nobody Fri Mar 11 03:15:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF6D12D671 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:15:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1G2sZFa-f4me for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ig0-x22d.google.com (mail-ig0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3580F12D641 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ig0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id av4so8737282igc.1 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:15:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=Tsetq001at5yIThVzrOZsTmXaV62XqySSR+fE5RnlCc=; b=vToX9w8uc4e28uR+7TdS2hpGwYOkhxN/8Wy1lPf6buLA0XMQ4gG5vQfvYdN7RzZ+Bo 3lV+r6yxbRJygYGcbmXaJulJkALZxoHwmQuxRZ++bqNArOxfV/Y0NTQfQI2ksyBI3RPZ efuVOR0/2S/tlSIGPSflcVD3YMniM1qbU3zvysTz6Hevo/KX39CRDbh5UAoUzsc3nZ0p NNIvtIe6Kwa/RI+1WsbWBaSJIjozxia0oOJ8R3dI3zbI24ueo5Sjqxw0eVbpSB9yIto0 Wo3EudenljUWVLAEU06oEn94lLHWgihTsrlvWx5D43JVRRrj7STDuay2+0GJAjgiL7ro l9ag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=Tsetq001at5yIThVzrOZsTmXaV62XqySSR+fE5RnlCc=; b=PuGseW41EY+pdm+AEyAycCDw8oDxQX0pvrhYoXoDyxwFCtNIbVVi9hJsgc5peijlMG ajA/8qilQ/cGTKcbAb0F7SOdfYp1tsdouPncyZa0t5j+/bEvpuL1QeogXNv2JRJ02nK0 yTSn2K/yHrBMTj4t4RLIEH+EcF1RM6QDUvPwR6lvZwYEZgWQZX1xUh/AdyGevwtv29Rq RVGrwa2WCODFdrMfRdhTZvBaL4foSExXrWXZTVfVFJ0ohYBCF4BH2EDCnpAdSdSbru9S KsJZX6FyYKyV8QJCz7T/JQ7eYZgTN9tHFWJZ8eMR0ySnQiYlV0jFhVrsMSs7p4vthi1N IE8A== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKJaCxwggenk+I0piNs0v0t/ZVG/m9HhL6wjlwA6V1JwGBPwFtCJVZLHBPwmjGZs9Yx85FUh/SkVTgU6w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.66.179 with SMTP id g19mr2454704igt.4.1457694868771; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:14:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.116.23 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:14:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20160311095814.1502.qmail@ary.lan> References: <72B95BBC-ACE7-471F-AE03-A428A944BE72@isoc.org> <20160311095814.1502.qmail@ary.lan> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:14:28 -0300 Message-ID: From: Diego Dujovne To: ietf@johnlevine.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc15b2d86b32052dc408c5 Archived-At: Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org, Christian O'Flaherty Subject: Re: [95attendees] the Glaciar didn't wait X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:15:40 -0000 --047d7bdc15b2d86b32052dc408c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It takes almost three hours by plane... less than a New York - Los Angeles flight. Regards, Diego PS: However, you can find a video to watch it from home, such as: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D95DhKYTE1GY On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:58 AM, wrote: > >Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of Argentina > collapsed offering a unique natural show. > >I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as we=E2=80=99re close = to the > meeting and the "bridge=E2=80=9D started > >eroding some weeks go. This is one of the few glaciers that keeps growin= g > despite global warming. The previous > >bridge collapse happened in 2012. > > > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_Glacier > > Oh, drat. The glacier is only 2,800 km from the hotel, so we could have > taken a taxi over > to look at it during a lunch break. > > R's, > John > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > --047d7bdc15b2d86b32052dc408c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It takes almost three hours by plane...
less than= a New York - Los Angeles flight.
Regards,

= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Diego

PS: However, you can find a video to watch


On Fri, Ma= r 11, 2016 at 6:58 AM, <ietf@johnlevine.com> wrote:
>So= me hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of Argentina collapsed = offering a unique natural show.
>I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as we=E2=80=99re close= to the meeting and the "bridge=E2=80=9D started
>eroding some weeks go. This is one of the few glaciers that keeps growi= ng despite global warming. The previous
>bridge collapse happened in 2012.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_G= lacier

Oh, drat.=C2=A0 The glacier is only 2,800 km from the hotel, so= we could have taken a taxi over
to look at it during a lunch break.

R's,
John

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--047d7bdc15b2d86b32052dc408c5-- From nobody Fri Mar 11 03:21:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0006412D50C for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:21:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=iecc.com header.b=Z8vfvDDk; dkim=pass (1536-bit key) header.d=johnlevine.com header.b=UCUuGotX Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RE5CfRxZIE0F for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A05A12D5EF for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:21:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 84464 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2016 11:21:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=149ee.56e2aa22.k1603; bh=Zl25SsxQmDhQqu81pAblMdCG8kFrgdNZKQ8LZJBKE2g=; b=Z8vfvDDkB+SdIt/kUBPnpI/gLOSiIpXDUbtJn6aNw65+0Pf8dMF1xqrr/k4g3QWqIqmoHa5oPVaKVdJ8ubZHhx9AiWu+7Q5FrEWhjwJn/+tZGvYySvm3aU717ND54zi75ngquvg1wmN6vP6vPr8uKj233KXkTsr8yC47zGhloxRXt7/9OOsXhaGqgmDqMEGUZcILzxgA+iJ5jID/tKsP2plMoX2ahpfkUc71xu4pK8h+Oi+7bi11edt7YajGixfL DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=johnlevine.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=149ee.56e2aa22.k1603; bh=Zl25SsxQmDhQqu81pAblMdCG8kFrgdNZKQ8LZJBKE2g=; b=UCUuGotXX5oAwS6gaVoXJEYEo03qnRNs1O0zvGBN08NO+AY+2LCCNuid+CCtAEPSFShQ4ZJTK7eIQ9zYcDR1YG3O/OAIfYMs7173pIkGR6LkILxua3HZ7ektjbSodRdP97tJGD20rFe0Ir+U6rvzSO0+/xrs8hMG/sZ5Qg7Quu4ClA77if8c8dlSU9wouHNuXweeF3i/a45tiH8eLEsnGZvwgHZHRwQfUx/pKVeU6M/CjZYTt7ZxiiwT+gXNuEJw Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.0/X.509/SHA1) via TCP6; 11 Mar 2016 11:21:06 -0000 Date: 11 Mar 2016 12:21:06 +0100 Message-ID: From: "John R Levine" To: "Diego Dujovne" In-Reply-To: References: <72B95BBC-ACE7-471F-AE03-A428A944BE72@isoc.org> <20160311095814.1502.qmail@ary.lan> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (OSX 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Archived-At: Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org, Christian O'Flaherty Subject: Re: [95attendees] the Glaciar didn't wait X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:21:17 -0000 > It takes almost three hours by plane... > less than a New York - Los Angeles flight. I'd take the bus, which has beds and an attendant, about 30 hrs each way. R's, John From nobody Fri Mar 11 03:24:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE8412D66B for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:24:46 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uzc3Xg80p2n9 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-io0-x236.google.com (mail-io0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B3F1212D66E for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-io0-x236.google.com with SMTP id g203so141568417iof.2 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:24:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=VxZURdCRUQdwJRQ1MFvTcpg7cBw+uQ47K6N7VvjkjJ8=; b=p3TId+b0jHGvyN1XIOvOfFyTQi1kYmBdhn4/7fso7hXQifeSaQStvPwCEPtp2s5yj1 MdxhpjslpWHgxDFXEWFsKkF8Y/UG0jSmEQSVG1iwk4s8Elz4EW3K/lV2MlQEeBhYM0gI jhDOfSKY8ybQgugvtW5+D4WGURoNhWSJQ+h/n138kaKALX03plqtjcY5cu65t6Clp0Kv ebGr020+qNGiQcRnYKLhdXfFU7oVmzIX/hV5AWfh/2D76nAbxIWTSUdWis74Y8cX7iK3 2Oa43f1d5zlxwdy3QISVqqoztrLBur0E6yAkEYDFzCWp5lBtuQ3qnIWZqjpB3iKQ7eA6 5WpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=VxZURdCRUQdwJRQ1MFvTcpg7cBw+uQ47K6N7VvjkjJ8=; b=RtbFgOQmQ7QlSO2vquLbuEzB+OOJR9d/qgwZXmvUYIzT9nmUdhdBcXxXN3wmgpKlXz Axwh2dXb8lk1iDpcC0UhL2hA+1feJ8NFs7XC7/MwqyAIo8Wwpj9Ki9GWtfDHK5UjNABm mgy8eFDQmAMimIoNWqbEMR33I3+bEVRLYHgyy0LaIkIML4nNfwbp/JC28cTOmMQqtdIS zltkiZN1EhTRAm0hWfZ47K/ZkIJ/W/50cUkhGVFmC0exK+OxIegCHQNg7DCKc3DtRIfG EAWKy+Ro4P3MGt2UfkljyZi3nKfvZiNiew9wwznH6bLn8MbU3PPJSFRUdPhuZpyR/eYb 0SEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIMEoKqgSysNpL3LmrY0WtlDq+F9hDZvebJGcjOG+C9c/HkzEyst1/BQ9gnWYVrCRCq+vmugrNXsg7HqA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.41.133 with SMTP id p127mr9554444iop.100.1457695482069; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.116.23 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 03:24:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <72B95BBC-ACE7-471F-AE03-A428A944BE72@isoc.org> <20160311095814.1502.qmail@ary.lan> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:24:42 -0300 Message-ID: From: Diego Dujovne To: John R Levine Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1137b81c664842052dc42d53 Archived-At: Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org, Christian O'Flaherty Subject: Re: [95attendees] the Glaciar didn't wait X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:24:46 -0000 --001a1137b81c664842052dc42d53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Much better than Greyhound, aren't they? Regards, Diego On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:21 AM, John R Levine wrote: > It takes almost three hours by plane... >> less than a New York - Los Angeles flight. >> > > I'd take the bus, which has beds and an attendant, about 30 hrs each way. > > R's, > John > --001a1137b81c664842052dc42d53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Much better than Greyhound, aren't they?
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:21 AM, J= ohn R Levine <ietf@johnlevine.com> wrote:
It takes almost three hours by plane...
less than a New York - Los Angeles flight.

 I'd take the bus, which has beds and an attendant, about 30 hrs each wa= y.

R's,
John

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Wait, did it calve, or fall to pieces?

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Colin Doyle
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On Mar 10, 2016 9:49 AM, "Christian O'F= laherty" <oflaherty@isoc.org<= /a>> wrote:

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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:51:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail-F94F8BC5-40C7-478D-BA0C-E3738712261D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Patagonia and Iguazu are definitely natural wonders that someone visiting Ar= gentina must see, if time allows. Last time I was in Argentina I opted for Iguazu (short fight from BsAs as we= ll). I had no idea how big and extended the falls were. About a month after t= hen I was in Canada visiting Niagara. I understood why Eleanor Roosevelt's e= xpression when visiting Iguazu was: "Poor Niagara!", which compares to a "mi= d-size" waterfall out of the 200+ ones in Iguazu! Juan Carlos > On Mar 11, 2016, at 01:47, Christian O'Flaherty wrote= : >=20 >=20 > Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of Argentina collaps= ed offering a unique natural show.=20 > I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as we=92re close to the m= eeting and the "bridge=94 started eroding some weeks go. This is one of the f= ew glaciers that keeps growing despite global warming. The previous bridge c= ollapse happened in 2012. >=20 > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_Glacier > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees --Apple-Mail-F94F8BC5-40C7-478D-BA0C-E3738712261D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Patagonia and Iguazu are definitely na= tural wonders that someone visiting Argentina must see, if time allows.

Last time I was in Argentina I opted for Iguazu (short f= ight from BsAs as well). I had no idea how big and extended the falls were. A= bout a month after then I was in Canada visiting Niagara. I understood why E= leanor Roosevelt's expression when visiting Iguazu was: "Poor Niagara!", whi= ch compares to a "mid-size" waterfall out of the 200+ ones in Iguazu!
Juan Carlos

Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of Arg= entina collapsed offering a unique natural show. 
I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as we=E2=80= =99re close to the meeting and the "bridge=E2=80=9D started eroding some wee= ks go. This is one of the few glaciers that keeps growing despite global war= ming. The previous bridge collapse happened in 2012.

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[75.164.138.193]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id wq3sm13564979pac.44.2016.03.11.06.53.05 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 11 Mar 2016 06:53:05 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_301F42C1-31C2-4D81-BB81-AFB6E2E2FC07" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) From: Colin Doyle In-Reply-To: <32FB30A3-1370-4229-BF5B-8217CF253E66@isoc.org> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 06:53:05 -0800 Message-Id: <4E1C6901-CDCD-4AA2-81BE-96FF4CA6808F@spheretc.com> References: <72B95BBC-ACE7-471F-AE03-A428A944BE72@isoc.org> <32FB30A3-1370-4229-BF5B-8217CF253E66@isoc.org> To: Christian O'Flaherty X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Archived-At: Cc: "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [95attendees] the Glaciar didn't wait X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:53:41 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_301F42C1-31C2-4D81-BB81-AFB6E2E2FC07 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Ah, got it. Cool! =E2=80=A6 Except for the whole =E2=80=9Ceverything is getting warmer=E2=80=9D = part=E2=80=A6 C > On Mar 11, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Christian O'Flaherty = wrote: >=20 >> Wait, did it calve, or fall to pieces? >>=20 > the glacier grows until it reaches the continent when the water starts = eroding underneath creating a natural bridge that, eventually, = collapses.=20 >=20 > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-GyUB32qDC8 = >=20 > Unfortunately, the size and noise are not properly captured in the = video=20 >=20 > Christian >> C >>=20 >> --- >>=20 >> =20 >> Colin Doyle >> Managing Director >> Sphere Technical Consulting, LLC. >> 503.810.2129 >> Colin@SphereTC.com >> On Mar 10, 2016 9:49 AM, "Christian O'Flaherty" > wrote: >>=20 >> Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of Argentina = collapsed offering a unique natural show.=20 >> I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as we=E2=80=99re = close to the meeting and the "bridge=E2=80=9D started eroding some weeks = go. This is one of the few glaciers that keeps growing despite global = warming. The previous bridge collapse happened in 2012. >>=20 >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_Glacier = >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees = >>=20 >=20 --- Colin Doyle Managing Director Sphere Technical Consulting, LLC. 503.810.2129 Colin@SphereTC.com --Apple-Mail=_301F42C1-31C2-4D81-BB81-AFB6E2E2FC07 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Ah, got it. Cool!

=E2=80=A6


Except for the whole = =E2=80=9Ceverything is getting warmer=E2=80=9D part=E2=80=A6

C
On = Mar 11, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Christian O'Flaherty <oflaherty@isoc.org> = wrote:

Wait, did it calve, or fall to = pieces?

the glacier grows until it reaches the continent when = the water starts eroding underneath creating a natural bridge that, = eventually, collapses. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-GyUB32qDC8

Unfortunately, the size and noise are not properly = captured in the video 

Christian

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On Mar 10, 2016 9:49 AM, "Christian = O'Flaherty" <oflaherty@isoc.org> wrote:

Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of = Argentina collapsed offering a unique natural show. 
I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as = we=E2=80=99re close to the meeting and the "bridge=E2=80=9D started = eroding some weeks go. This is one of the few glaciers that keeps = growing despite global warming. The previous bridge collapse happened in 2012.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_Glacier

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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 14:58:28 -0000 --001a1142d862a6be0d052dc729ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Going back to the Glacier, I would like to point out that it grows, when most glaciers in the world are reducing their size, so this makes an exception too. Regards, Diego On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Juan Carlos Zuniga wrote: > Patagonia and Iguazu are definitely natural wonders that someone visiting > Argentina must see, if time allows. > > Last time I was in Argentina I opted for Iguazu (short fight from BsAs as > well). I had no idea how big and extended the falls were. About a month > after then I was in Canada visiting Niagara. I understood why Eleanor > Roosevelt's expression when visiting Iguazu was: "Poor Niagara!", which > compares to a "mid-size" waterfall out of the 200+ ones in Iguazu! > > Juan Carlos > > On Mar 11, 2016, at 01:47, Christian O'Flaherty > wrote: > > > Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of Argentina > collapsed offering a unique natural show. > I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as we=E2=80=99re close t= o the > meeting and the "bridge=E2=80=9D started eroding some weeks go. This is o= ne of the > few glaciers that keeps growing despite global warming. The previous brid= ge > collapse happened in 2012. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_Glacier > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > --001a1142d862a6be0d052dc729ef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Going back to the Glacier, I woul= d like to point out that
it grows, when most glaciers in the world= are reducing
their size, so this makes an exception too.
Regards,

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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 a= t 11:51 AM, Juan Carlos Zuniga <j.c.zuniga@ieee.org> wrote= :
Patagonia and Ig= uazu are definitely natural wonders that someone visiting Argentina must se= e, if time allows.

Last time I was in Argentina I = opted for Iguazu (short fight from BsAs as well). I had no idea how big and= extended the falls were. About a month after then I was in Canada visiting= Niagara. I understood why Eleanor Roosevelt's expression when visiting= Iguazu was: "Poor Niagara!", which compares to a "mid-size&= quot; waterfall out of the 200+ ones in Iguazu!

Juan Carlos
<= div class=3D"h5">

On Mar 11, 2016, at 01:47, Christian O'Flaher= ty <oflaherty@is= oc.org> wrote:


Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of Argentina col= lapsed offering a unique natural show.=C2=A0
I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as we=E2=80=99re clos= e to the meeting and the "bridge=E2=80=9D started eroding some weeks g= o. This is one of the few glaciers that keeps growing despite global warmin= g. The previous bridge collapse happened in 2012.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_Glacier
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Jerry Chu" To: Juan Carlos Zuniga Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114b2e3e86c5ed052dc8d653 Archived-At: Cc: "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org>, Christian O'Flaherty Subject: Re: [95attendees] the Glaciar didn't wait X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:58:24 -0000 --001a114b2e3e86c5ed052dc8d653 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Juan Carlos Zuniga wrote: > Patagonia and Iguazu are definitely natural wonders that someone visiting > Argentina must see, if time allows. > Would love to visit but will it be too cold to visit places like Fitz Roy/El Chaten or Torres del Paine after IETF? > Last time I was in Argentina I opted for Iguazu (short fight from BsAs as > well). I had no idea how big and extended the falls were. About a month > after then I was in Canada visiting Niagara. I understood why Eleanor > Roosevelt's expression when visiting Iguazu was: "Poor Niagara!", which > compares to a "mid-size" waterfall out of the 200+ ones in Iguazu! > > Juan Carlos > > On Mar 11, 2016, at 01:47, Christian O'Flaherty > wrote: > > > Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of Argentina > collapsed offering a unique natural show. > I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as we=E2=80=99re close t= o the > meeting and the "bridge=E2=80=9D started eroding some weeks go. This is o= ne of the > few glaciers that keeps growing despite global warming. 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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Juan Carlos Zuniga <j.= c.zuniga@ieee.org> wrote:
Patagonia and Iguazu are definitely natural wonders tha= t someone visiting Argentina must see, if time allows.

Would love to visit but will it be too cold to visi= t places like Fitz Roy/El Chaten or Torres del Paine after IETF?


Last time I was in Argentina I opted for Iguazu (short figh= t from BsAs as well). I had no idea how big and extended the falls were. Ab= out a month after then I was in Canada visiting Niagara. I understood why E= leanor Roosevelt's expression when visiting Iguazu was: "Poor Niag= ara!", which compares to a "mid-size" waterfall out of the 2= 00+ ones in Iguazu!

Ju= an Carlos

On Mar 1= 1, 2016, at 01:47, Christian O'Flaherty <oflaherty@isoc.org> wrote:


Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of Argentina col= lapsed offering a unique natural show.=C2=A0
I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as we=E2=80=99re clos= e to the meeting and the "bridge=E2=80=9D started eroding some weeks g= o. This is one of the few glaciers that keeps growing despite global warmin= g. The previous bridge collapse happened in 2012.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_Glacier
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--001a114b2e3e86c5ed052dc8d653-- From nobody Fri Mar 11 13:08:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A4112DBE4 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:08:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6hiKGFB79taG for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:08:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.ams1.isc.org (mx.ams1.isc.org [199.6.1.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3021F12DBEA for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:08:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from zmx1.isc.org (zmx1.isc.org [149.20.0.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx.ams1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EDF71FCAD1; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmx1.isc.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmx1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B6DA16006D; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmx1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A5BB160072; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmx1.isc.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmx1.isc.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id gQRh6pwhUW5c; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rock.dv.isc.org (c110-21-49-25.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [110.21.49.25]) by zmx1.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF42C16006D; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rock.dv.isc.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by rock.dv.isc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0CD44560FB; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:08:07 +1100 (EST) To: Juan Carlos Zuniga From: Mark Andrews References: <72B95BBC-ACE7-471F-AE03-A428A944BE72@isoc.org> <78760054-61DF-48B3-99E7-FA67BE21CC4B@ieee.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:51:30 +0800." <78760054-61DF-48B3-99E7-FA67BE21CC4B@ieee.org> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 08:08:07 +1100 Message-Id: <20160311210807.5B0CD44560FB@rock.dv.isc.org> Archived-At: Cc: "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org>, Christian O'Flaherty Subject: Re: [95attendees] the Glaciar didn't wait X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:08:42 -0000 In message <78760054-61DF-48B3-99E7-FA67BE21CC4B@ieee.org>, Juan Carlos Zuniga writes: > > Patagonia and Iguazu are definitely natural wonders that someone visiting > Argentina must see, if time allows. > > Last time I was in Argentina I opted for Iguazu (short fight from BsAs as > well). I had no idea how big and extended the falls were. About a month > after t > hen I was in Canada visiting Niagara. I understood why Eleanor > Roosevelt's expression when visiting Iguazu was: "Poor Niagara!", which > compares to a "mid-size" waterfall out of the 200+ ones in Iguazu! > > Juan Carlos If you are wanting to go to the falls don't forget your Yellow Fever shots and if you want to go to the Brazillian side the relevant travel documentation for Brazil. The falls are in a Yellow Fever declared zone. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org From nobody Fri Mar 11 13:13:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0EDB12DA08 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:13:51 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DcwVTO5hDgcW for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nk11p16im-asmtp002.me.com (nk11p16im-asmtp002.me.com [17.158.104.161]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22FA312DBC7 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (191-115-0-251.baf.movistar.cl [191.115.0.251]) by nk11p16im-asmtp002.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.36.0 64bit (built Sep 8 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0O3W001EM89YHQ20@nk11p16im-asmtp002.me.com> for 95attendees@ietf.org; Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:13:21 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2016-03-11_10:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1603110295 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B4CC1A0E-CD81-4B45-A04F-EFEC7FBD8AE5"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1 MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) From: John Bradley In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 18:13:08 -0300 Message-id: <713FA703-911D-4BE7-96F2-11E80CB3F60A@me.com> References: <72B95BBC-ACE7-471F-AE03-A428A944BE72@isoc.org> <78760054-61DF-48B3-99E7-FA67BE21CC4B@ieee.org> To: "H.K. Jerry Chu" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Archived-At: Cc: "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org>, Juan Carlos Zuniga , Christian O'Flaherty Subject: Re: [95attendees] the Glaciar didn't wait X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 21:13:51 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B4CC1A0E-CD81-4B45-A04F-EFEC7FBD8AE5 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_93AAC2DD-AA56-4510-BEDE-1499AF7C32C0" --Apple-Mail=_93AAC2DD-AA56-4510-BEDE-1499AF7C32C0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Having relatives living in Punta Arenas I can only speak to Torres Del = Paine (in Chile). The hight of Sumer in that area is in Feb. =20 By April it is the start of fall and it cools from 20C to 10-12C during = the day and 2-5C at night.=20 The main difference is rain. from 50mm in Feb to 70-80mm and a bit less = daylight with 11h vs the 17h you get in Dec. The only thing guaranteed about the weather there is that it is = unpredictable at any time of year. Regards John B. > On Mar 11, 2016, at 1:58 PM, H.K. Jerry Chu = wrote: >=20 > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Juan Carlos Zuniga = > wrote: > Patagonia and Iguazu are definitely natural wonders that someone = visiting Argentina must see, if time allows. >=20 > Would love to visit but will it be too cold to visit places like Fitz = Roy/El Chaten or Torres del Paine after IETF? >=20 >=20 > Last time I was in Argentina I opted for Iguazu (short fight from BsAs = as well). I had no idea how big and extended the falls were. About a = month after then I was in Canada visiting Niagara. I understood why = Eleanor Roosevelt's expression when visiting Iguazu was: "Poor = Niagara!", which compares to a "mid-size" waterfall out of the 200+ ones = in Iguazu! >=20 > Juan Carlos >=20 > On Mar 11, 2016, at 01:47, Christian O'Flaherty > wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of Argentina = collapsed offering a unique natural show.=20 >> I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as we=E2=80=99re = close to the meeting and the "bridge=E2=80=9D started eroding some weeks = go. This is one of the few glaciers that keeps growing despite global = warming. The previous bridge collapse happened in 2012. >>=20 >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_Glacier = _____________________= __________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees = >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees = >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees --Apple-Mail=_93AAC2DD-AA56-4510-BEDE-1499AF7C32C0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Having relatives living in Punta Arenas I can only speak to = Torres Del Paine (in Chile).

The hight of Sumer in that area is in Feb.  
By April it is the start of fall and it cools from 20C =  to 10-12C during the day and 2-5C at night. 

The main difference is = rain. from 50mm in Feb to 70-80mm and a bit less daylight with 11h vs = the 17h you get in Dec.

The only thing guaranteed about the weather there is that it = is unpredictable at any time of year.

Regards
John = B.


On Mar 11, 2016, at 1:58 PM, H.K. Jerry Chu = <hkjerry.chu@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Juan Carlos Zuniga <j.c.zuniga@ieee.org> = wrote:
Patagonia and Iguazu are definitely natural wonders that = someone visiting Argentina must see, if time = allows.

Would love to visit but will it be too cold to visit places = like Fitz Roy/El Chaten or Torres del Paine after IETF?


Last time I was in = Argentina I opted for Iguazu (short fight from BsAs as well). I had no = idea how big and extended the falls were. About a month after then I was = in Canada visiting Niagara. I understood why Eleanor Roosevelt's = expression when visiting Iguazu was: "Poor Niagara!", which compares to = a "mid-size" waterfall out of the 200+ ones in Iguazu!

Juan Carlos

On Mar 11, = 2016, at 01:47, Christian O'Flaherty <oflaherty@isoc.org> wrote:


Some hours ago the Glaciar Perito Moreno in the south of = Argentina collapsed offering a unique natural show. 
I was hoping some of you would be able to see it as = we=E2=80=99re close to the meeting and the "bridge=E2=80=9D started = eroding some weeks go. This is one of the few glaciers that keeps = growing despite global warming. The previous bridge collapse happened in 2012.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perito_Moreno_Glacier
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miucha.iecc.com (abusenet-1-pt.tunnel.tserv4.nyc4.ipv6.he.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f06:1126::2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB78F12D5D5 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 02:46:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 82222 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2016 10:46:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (64.57.183.18) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2016 10:46:45 -0000 Date: 12 Mar 2016 10:46:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20160312104623.2674.qmail@ary.lan> From: ietf@johnlevine.com To: 95attendees@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <20160311210807.5B0CD44560FB@rock.dv.isc.org> Organization: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [95attendees] Igazu, was the Glaciar didn't wait X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have 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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 10:46:51 -0000 >If you are wanting to go to the falls don't forget your Yellow Fever >shots and if you want to go to the Brazillian side the relevant >travel documentation for Brazil. The falls are in a Yellow Fever >declared zone. If you're from the US or Canada the relevant documentation is a Brazilian visa, which costs $100 and apparently is so backed up that they hold on to your passport for a month after you apply. R's, John From nobody Sat Mar 12 04:54:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0C912D62C for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 04:54:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.501 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.501 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XhlplQpHumgM for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 04:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from fgont.go6lab.si (fgont.go6lab.si [91.239.96.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A757712D568 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 04:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.0.56] (dslb-094-217-017-121.094.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de [94.217.17.121]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by fgont.go6lab.si (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BAA6E8029B; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 13:54:19 +0100 (CET) To: ietf@johnlevine.com, 95attendees@ietf.org References: <20160312104623.2674.qmail@ary.lan> From: Fernando Gont Message-ID: <56E40F8A.7030700@gont.com.ar> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:46:02 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160312104623.2674.qmail@ary.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [95attendees] Igazu, was the Glaciar didn't wait X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 12:54:27 -0000 On 03/12/2016 07:46 AM, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote: >> If you are wanting to go to the falls don't forget your Yellow Fever >> shots and if you want to go to the Brazillian side the relevant >> travel documentation for Brazil. The falls are in a Yellow Fever >> declared zone. > > If you're from the US or Canada the relevant documentation is a > Brazilian visa, which costs $100 and apparently is so backed up that > they hold on to your passport for a month after you apply. I wouldn't be surprised if that had to do with the "reciprocity" concept... -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 From nobody Sat Mar 12 05:04:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CAE12D632 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:04:39 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k4xhc1RgiqBK for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:04:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wm0-x22e.google.com (mail-wm0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD53A12D568 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-wm0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id l68so49229108wml.0 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:04:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=z0ibwG/Z5mRDEMsu9W45ffj46AXANkn2TjBbfH5cRPA=; b=scbhKjN80jPvpycdFT1WytF/o5KX3EwqastUmiv3yzm7ckUh6acOMq1PVemZB/WSAG odRcA+FI0dvgQmke941nokgvCzEffPkC3aRTUnvhPZhQIPqdx2lUb+Vt0+LgJUgXqD+p 45SOVUsl1+SUbned2fTFrKP9sMjCUUpI73vrnDj1+kcnLs9gq/z+Sr5HRnZh1Kmcv/eJ tMYNSBH9j3mZp9HlcHcio0Q6GiN7cg/bg/1cHhu2XntWHYo7UEWd+AHnZx8dpbAkgh40 TDWiisHtaKRP0vXepQ3EGssMx6Z1yxRqoyKeYdJV3gO2DvKJNzRvFckIQ3yiztjFb9wz YnSA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=z0ibwG/Z5mRDEMsu9W45ffj46AXANkn2TjBbfH5cRPA=; b=cY/aVtunv9o/VLiY07KdkZCdjr45R7aDBmiyse/A2iVDFoJe10uxIDXMauP5M77Gr7 K8VuBg373cVVzQ+Bh7UmLeOrRXGn/X/0MxrLFOSCzWSzAE/bDwyysP6vfGtMAECTme7h TsOpVzmpe45matTmxYBOK7YKNsMMO07c/EHIYHJDOZmfB/2EsORwfJI14d1iB5QU1QpY VX6u3ZaxkXnaLGifXC92frpupxvkhjcGFRrqJQOSNASnC5FNfCvLT4ck+nc2Nr6CzW9+ TTBZPuiCPu/k4/Xa/8yvt9Y0XpfP0jtiMrAXc5YvFTvun0Zft4UC7toKti/SDJuCGWq3 AOKg== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIa8E4F6NwPa1NrlQf0F+soMmBkPKtqZq7xMQF8jn5HgYzpjzafP6vFhwYdK6cRNA== X-Received: by 10.28.129.213 with SMTP id c204mr8508414wmd.89.1457787875268; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.15] ([88.87.141.18]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a16sm6941614wmi.0.2016.03.12.05.04.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:04:33 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-ED3985B2-C55F-4DE3-BE3E-D4F9BEB74265 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Miguel Ignacio Estrada X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13D15) In-Reply-To: <56E40F8A.7030700@gont.com.ar> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:04:28 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <20160312104623.2674.qmail@ary.lan> <56E40F8A.7030700@gont.com.ar> To: Fernando Gont Archived-At: Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org, ietf@johnlevine.com Subject: Re: [95attendees] Igazu, was the Glaciar didn't wait X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 13:04:39 -0000 --Apple-Mail-ED3985B2-C55F-4DE3-BE3E-D4F9BEB74265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Nacho Estrada | @acmuzic > On 12 mar 2016, at 1:46 p.m., Fernando Gont wrote: > > On 03/12/2016 07:46 AM, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote: >>> If you are wanting to go to the falls don't forget your Yellow Fever >>> shots and if you want to go to the Brazillian side the relevant >>> travel documentation for Brazil. The falls are in a Yellow Fever >>> declared zone. >> >> If you're from the US or Canada the relevant documentation is a >> Brazilian visa, which costs $100 and apparently is so backed up that >> they hold on to your passport for a month after you apply. > > I wouldn't be surprised if that had to do with the "reciprocity" concept... > It does, actually the visa is called reciprocity visa > -- > Fernando Gont > e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com > PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 > > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees --Apple-Mail-ED3985B2-C55F-4DE3-BE3E-D4F9BEB74265 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



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Nacho Estrada | @acmuzic
On 12 mar 2016, at 1:46= p.m., Fernando Gont <fernando@go= nt.com.ar> wrote:

O= n 03/12/2016 07:46 AM, ietf@johnlevin= e.com wrote:
If you are wanting to go to the falls don't forget your Yellow Feve= r
shots and if you want to go to the Brazillian side the re= levant
travel documentation for Brazil.  The falls ar= e in a Yellow Fever
declared zone.
=

If you're from the US or Canada the relevant docume= ntation is a
Brazilia= n visa, which costs $100 and apparently is so backed up that
they hold on to your passport for a m= onth after you apply.

I wouldn= 't be surprised if that had to do with the "reciprocity" concept...

It does, actually t= he visa is called reciprocity visa


--
Fernando Gont
e-mail: <= a href=3D"mailto:fernando@gont.com.ar">fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com
PGP= Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1



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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 13:27:08 -0000 On 03/12/2016 10:04 AM, Miguel Ignacio Estrada wrote: > > > > -- > Nacho Estrada | @acmuzic > On 12 mar 2016, at 1:46 p.m., Fernando Gont > wrote: > >> On 03/12/2016 07:46 AM, ietf@johnlevine.com >> wrote: >>>> If you are wanting to go to the falls don't forget your Yellow Fever >>>> shots and if you want to go to the Brazillian side the relevant >>>> travel documentation for Brazil. The falls are in a Yellow Fever >>>> declared zone. >>> >>> If you're from the US or Canada the relevant documentation is a >>> Brazilian visa, which costs $100 and apparently is so backed up that >>> they hold on to your passport for a month after you apply. >> >> I wouldn't be surprised if that had to do with the "reciprocity" >> concept... >> > > It does, actually the visa is called reciprocity visa No, no: I meant they delay ;-) -- you may recall people stamping their fingerprints old-style with ink, till the government acquired electronic fingerprint scanners... -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 From nobody Sat Mar 12 18:32:14 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BB7812D930 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 12 Mar 2016 18:32:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Hi All,
 
I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Could you pleas= e let me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. Whether they acce= pt cards. How far is falls from Iguazu airport. Do they have taxi service r= ound the clock. Is this place safe.
Your help is much appreciated.
 
Regards,
Sudhin
 
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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 03:22:58 -0000 On 03/12/2016 11:31 PM, Sudhin Jacob wrote: > Hi All, > > I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Could you please > let me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. Don't recall the rate. -- it's different from that in Buenos Aires, and due to recent economy changes, it's even harder for me to predict from here ("here" == "Buenos Aires"). > Whether they accept cards. No. In fact... in many places(other than the US) they don't. > How far is falls from Iguazu airport. https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Cataratas+del+Iguaz%C3%BA,+Misi%C3%B3nes,+Argentina/Aeropuerto+Internacional+Cataratas,+Camino+Anexo+Ruta+Provincial+101,+3370,+Misi%C3%B3nes/@-25.6827648,-54.4772341,13z/data=!3m1!5s0x94f6e9780123bcc1:0xad0170a7e9040660!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x94f6ea6068b8edff:0xa7f4a990535e7279!2m2!1d-54.4500008!2d-25.6666698!1m5!1m1!1s0x94f6e99d6e590fad:0xfbc4a36a50b8b7de!2m2!1d-54.4783733!2d-25.7336736?hl=es > Do they have taxi service round the clock. I'd say "yes". But if you ask how to get from the airport to the falls, I guess you don't need "round the clock service". -- i.e., don't think you want to visit the falls at night, o even that you actually ca. > Is this place safe. Please define "safe". -- in any case, I'd say "yes"... but always avoid doing stuff likely to get you busted (not count tons of money in front of people, if you have a rolex leave it at home, etc... -- you get the picture). 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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 03:27:46 -0000 Hi Fernando, Thanks for the information. Regards, Sudhin -----Original Message----- From: Fernando Gont [mailto:fernando@gont.com.ar]=20 Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 8:52 AM To: Sudhin Jacob ; 95attendees@ietf.org Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls On 03/12/2016 11:31 PM, Sudhin Jacob wrote: > Hi All, > =20 > I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Could you=20 > please let me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. Don't recall the rate. -- it's different from that in Buenos Aires, and due= to recent economy changes, it's even harder for me to predict from here ("= here" =3D=3D "Buenos Aires"). > Whether they accept cards. No. In fact... in many places(other than the US) they don't. > How far is falls from Iguazu airport.=20 https://www.google.de/maps/dir/Cataratas+del+Iguaz%C3%BA,+Misi%C3%B3nes,+Ar= gentina/Aeropuerto+Internacional+Cataratas,+Camino+Anexo+Ruta+Provincial+10= 1,+3370,+Misi%C3%B3nes/@-25.6827648,-54.4772341,13z/data=3D!3m1!5s0x94f6e97= 80123bcc1:0xad0170a7e9040660!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x94f6ea6068b8edff:0xa7f4a= 990535e7279!2m2!1d-54.4500008!2d-25.6666698!1m5!1m1!1s0x94f6e99d6e590fad:0x= fbc4a36a50b8b7de!2m2!1d-54.4783733!2d-25.7336736?hl=3Des > Do they have taxi service round the clock. I'd say "yes". But if you ask how to get from the airport to the falls, I g= uess you don't need "round the clock service". -- i.e., don't think you wan= t to visit the falls at night, o even that you actually ca. > Is this place safe. Please define "safe". -- in any case, I'd say "yes"... but always avoid doi= ng stuff likely to get you busted (not count tons of money in front of peop= le, if you have a rolex leave it at home, etc... -- you get the picture). 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Buenos AIres, Argentina X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 03:46:33 -0000 Hi Fernando, thank you for the update, most interesting. Perhaps na=EFve question The su= bject of the discussion "communication protocol" applies to a data plane, c= ontrol plane or both? Unfortunately I'm arriving too late to join and wonde= r if the materials will be available. Greatly appreciate your response. Regards, Greg -----Original Message----- From: 95attendees [mailto:95attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Fernan= do Gont Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 6:05 PM To: 95attendees@ietf.org Subject: [95attendees] PROTOSEC 2016: April 1-2, 2016. Buenos AIres, Argent= ina Folks, We're organizing a rather informal event on network/protocol hacking, right= before IETF 95 in Buenos Aires. Practical stuff, tools, measurements, etc.= , are all welcome, including those related to security & privacy. More details at: Thanks! 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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 12:06:08 -0000 --Apple-Mail-E9BFC08B-BFF5-42A8-A1AB-217AB2904802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I did it last year and rented a car for the three days I was there. Three da= ys is also too long, as there is really nothing else to do there. I did not g= o into Brazil though. If you don't want resort/hotel dinner, you need to dri= ve 10 minutes to "downtown" depending on where your hotel is. I think a rent= al is much cheaper in the end then taxies. The falls are worth it though, and that's coming from a Canadian near Niagra= Falls. Apparently queen Elizabeth said "poor Niagra" when she saw these fal= ls. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 13, 2016, at 02:31, Sudhin Jacob wrote: >=20 > Hi All, > =20 > I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Could you please le= t me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. Whether they accept ca= rds. How far is falls from Iguazu airport. Do they have taxi service round t= he clock. Is this place safe. > Your help is much appreciated. > =20 > Regards, > Sudhin > =20 > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees --Apple-Mail-E9BFC08B-BFF5-42A8-A1AB-217AB2904802 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I did it last year and rented a car for the three days I was there. Three days is also too long, as there is really nothing else to do there. I did not go into Brazil though. If you don't want resort/hotel dinner, you need to drive 10 minutes to "downtown" depending on where your hotel is. I think a rental is much cheaper in the end then taxies.

The falls are worth it though, and that's coming from a Canadian near Niagra Falls. Apparently queen Elizabeth said "poor Niagra" when she saw these falls.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 13, 2016, at 02:31, Sudhin Jacob <sjacob@juniper.net> wrote:

Hi All,
 
I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Could you please let me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. Whether they accept cards. How far is falls from Iguazu airport. Do they have taxi service round the clock. Is this place safe.
Your help is much appreciated.
 
Regards,
Sudhin
 
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On 13 Mar 2016, at 2:05 = PM, Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:

The falls are worth it = though, and that's coming from a Canadian near Niagra Falls. Apparently = queen Elizabeth said "poor Niagra" when she saw these falls.


I=E2=80=99ve heard that attributed to Eleanor = Roosevelt. Either way, they=E2=80=99re pretty impressive.

Yoav


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Taxis are always available, they only accept cash, cant tell= if they accept dollars or other currency, maybe they do. Hope this help I = m from Argentina :) grettings.


El dom, 13 de marzo de 2016= 10:05, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail= .com> escribi=C3=B3:

On 13 Mar 2016, at 2:05 PM, Paul= Wouters <paul@nohat= s.ca> wrote:

The falls= are worth it though, and that's coming from a Canadian near Niagra Fal= ls. Apparently queen Elizabeth said "poor Niagra" when she saw th= ese falls.


I=E2=80=99ve heard that attributed to Eleanor Roos= evelt. Either way, they=E2=80=99re pretty impressive.

Yoav


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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 14:14:06 -0000 On 03/13/2016 09:05 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > I did it last year and rented a car for the three days I was there. > Three days is also too long, as there is really nothing else to do > there. You may have e.g. missed this: (Yoy may have watched Robert De Niro's "The Mission") > I did not go into Brazil though. If you don't want resort/hotel > dinner, you need to drive 10 minutes to "downtown" depending on where > your hotel is. I think a rental is much cheaper in the end then taxies. Buses are still cheaper. Thanks! Cheers, -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 From nobody Sun Mar 13 07:20:33 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E456312D513 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 07:20:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id a2Nek_QLwzCo for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 07:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (hermes.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3808C12D505 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 07:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.lacnic.net.uy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 217D716B40FFA; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 11:14:00 -0300 (UYT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lacnic.net.uy Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy ([127.0.0.1]) by hermes.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sHiCYOKx1TK2; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 11:13:58 -0300 (UYT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ec2-54-210-254-173.compute-1.amazonaws.com [54.210.254.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 489D316B40F75; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 11:13:57 -0300 (UYT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----sinikael-?=_1-14578788209270.14560167607851326" From: Carlos Martinez To: Fernando Gont In-Reply-To: <56E57560.5040400@gont.com.ar> References: <554DAE60-E5D4-4E3C-ADB1-B060DC143B8F@nohats.ca> <56E57560.5040400@gont.com.ar> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 11:20:13 -0300 X-Cm-Message-Id: 1457878820831894fc1775b757592d03b2be5b67eb28ba4b56e57724cb2441988396529 X-Cm-Draft-Id: WyJhIiw1LCJkcmFmdF9pZCIsIjE0NTc4Nzg4MTMwMDAiLCJ2IiwxXQ== X-Mailer: CloudMagic Message-Id: <1457878822654-452699e7-1f9a6849-9ef2e48d@lacnic.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org, Paul Wouters , Sudhin Jacob Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 14:20:32 -0000 ------sinikael-?=_1-14578788209270.14560167607851326 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you are willing to board a plane, I'd like to add Ushuaia to your list of possible destinations. A most awesome place. Sent from a mobile device. Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. Sent using CloudMagic Email [https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=pi&cv=7.6.23&pv=9.2.1&source=email_footer_2] On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Fernando Gont wrote: On 03/13/2016 09:05 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > I did it last year and rented a car for the three days I was there. > Three days is also too long, as there is really nothing else to do > there. You may have e.g. missed this: (Yoy may have watched Robert De Niro's "The Mission") > I did not go into Brazil though. If you don't want resort/hotel > dinner, you need to drive 10 minutes to "downtown" depending on where > your hotel is. I think a rental is much cheaper in the end then taxies. Buses are still cheaper. Thanks! Cheers, -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 _______________________________________________ 95attendees mailing list 95attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees ------sinikael-?=_1-14578788209270.14560167607851326 Content-Type: text/html; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
If you are willing to board a plane, I'd like to add Ushuaia to your list of possible destinations. A most awesome place. 


On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar> wrote:
On 03/13/2016 09:05 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> I did it last year and rented a car for the three days I was there.
> Three days is also too long, as there is really nothing else to do
> there.

You may have e.g. missed this:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ignacio_Min%C3%AD>

(Yoy may have watched Robert De Niro's "The Mission")


> I did not go into Brazil though. If you don't want resort/hotel
> dinner, you need to drive 10 minutes to "downtown" depending on where
> your hotel is. I think a rental is much cheaper in the end then taxies.

Buses are still cheaper.

Thanks!

Cheers,
--
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e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com
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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 14:44:45 -0000 ------=_Part_507990_2137789827.1457880281041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am planning on going to=C2=A0Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in Bu= enos Aires. =C2=A0 The scenery and wildness look incredible. =C2=A0 Hope to= get some good hiking in. Nalini From: Carlos Martinez To: Fernando Gont =20 Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org; Paul Wouters ; Sudhin Jacob Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls =20 If you are willing to board a plane, I'd like to add Ushuaia to your list o= f possible destinations. A most awesome place.=C2=A0 Sent from a mobile device.=C2=A0Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. Sent using CloudMagic Email On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Fernando Gont wro= te: On 03/13/2016 09:05 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > I did it last year and rented a car for the three days I was there. > Three days is also too long, as there is really nothing else to do > there. You may have e.g. missed this: (Yoy may have watched Robert De Niro's "The Mission") > I did not go into Brazil though. If you don't want resort/hotel > dinner, you need to drive 10 minutes to "downtown" depending on where > your hotel is. I think a rental is much cheaper in the end then taxies. Buses are still cheaper. Thanks! Cheers, --=20 Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 _______________________________________________ 95attendees mailing list 95attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees =20 _______________________________________________ 95attendees mailing list 95attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees ------=_Part_507990_2137789827.1457880281041 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in Buenos Aires.   The scene= ry and wildness look incredible.   Hope to get some good hiking in.

Nalini

From: Carlos Martinez <carlos@lacni= c.net>
To: Fernando= Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu f= alls

If you are= willing to board a plane, I'd like to add=20 Ushuaia to your list of possible destinations. A most awesome=20 place. 

Sent from a mobile device. 
Enviado desde un=20 dispositivo movil.


On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at=20 11:12 AM, Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>=20 wrote:
On 03/13/2016 09:05 AM, Paul Wouters=20 wrote:
> I did it last year and rented a car for the t= hree days I was=20 there.
> Three days is also too long, as there is real= ly nothing else=20 to do
> there.

Yo= u may have e.g. missed=20 this:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ignacio_Min%C= 3%AD>

(Yoy=20 may have watched Robert De Niro's "The Mission")


> I did not=20 go into Brazil though. If you don't want resort/hotel
>= ; dinner, you=20 need to drive 10 minutes to "downtown" depending on where
> your=20 hotel is. I think a rental is much cheaper in the end then=20 taxies.

Buses are still cheaper.

Thanks!

Cheers,
--=20
Fernando Gont
e-mail: fernando@gont.co= m.ar ||=20 fgont@si6networks.com
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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 15:40:54 -0000 --Apple-Mail-CFE6DD9E-90A4-42A0-8FEC-D22FFAB2789C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was thinking of El Calafate afterwards :) Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 13, 2016, at 14:44, wrote: >=20 > I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in Buenos= Aires. The scenery and wildness look incredible. Hope to get some good h= iking in. >=20 > Nalini >=20 > From: Carlos Martinez > To: Fernando Gont =20 > Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org; Paul Wouters ; Sudhin Jacob > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:20 AM > Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls >=20 > If you are willing to board a plane, I'd like to add Ushuaia to your list o= f possible destinations. A most awesome place.=20 >=20 > Sent from a mobile device.=20 > Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. >=20 > Sent using CloudMagic Email >=20 > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Fernando Gont wro= te: > On 03/13/2016 09:05 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > I did it last year and rented a car for the three days I was there. > > Three days is also too long, as there is really nothing else to do > > there. >=20 > You may have e.g. missed this: > >=20 > (Yoy may have watched Robert De Niro's "The Mission") >=20 >=20 > > I did not go into Brazil though. If you don't want resort/hotel > > dinner, you need to drive 10 minutes to "downtown" depending on where > > your hotel is. I think a rental is much cheaper in the end then taxies. >=20 > Buses are still cheaper. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Cheers, > --=20 > Fernando Gont > e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com > PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-CFE6DD9E-90A4-42A0-8FEC-D22FFAB2789C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was thinking of El Calafate afterwar= ds :)

Sent from my iPhone
I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El= Calafate before we meet in Buenos Aires.   The scenery and wildness lo= ok incredible.   Hope to get some good hiking in.

Nalini
=

From: Carlos Martinez <carlos@lacni= c.net>
To: Ferna= ndo Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>
Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org; Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>; Sudhin Jacob <sjacob@juniper.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 7:20 AM
<= b>Subject: Re: [95attendees] R= EG: Iguazu falls

I= f you are willing to board a plane, I'd like to add=20 Ushuaia to your list of possible destinations. A most awesome=20 place. 

Sent from a mobile device. 
Enviado desde un=20 dispositivo movil.


On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at=20 11:12 AM, Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>=20 wrote:
On 03/13/2016 09:05 AM, Paul Wouters=20 wrote:
> I did it last year and rented a car for the th= ree days I was=20 there.
> Three days is also too long, as there is reall= y nothing else=20 to do
> there.

You= may have e.g. missed=20 this:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Ignacio_Min%C3%AD><= br clear=3D"none">
(Yoy=20 may have watched Robert De Niro's "The Mission")


> I did not=20 go into Brazil though. If you don't want resort/hotel
>= dinner, you=20 need to drive 10 minutes to "downtown" depending on where
= > your=20 hotel is. I think a rental is much cheaper in the end then=20 taxies.

Buses are still cheaper.

Thanks!

= Cheers,
--=20
Fernando Gont
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= --Apple-Mail-CFE6DD9E-90A4-42A0-8FEC-D22FFAB2789C-- From nobody Sun Mar 13 09:14:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC81412D5EE for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 09:14:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.801 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.801 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qPy1sdFUZabv for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 09:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [50.253.254.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F13E12D5E7 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 09:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC463620EE; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 12:14:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id RaJ5yWIJAwhB; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 12:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx120e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4CBAB621B4; Sun, 13 Mar 2016 12:14:41 -0400 (EDT) To: Paul Wouters , Sudhin Jacob References: <554DAE60-E5D4-4E3C-ADB1-B060DC143B8F@nohats.ca> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <56E591EF.30004@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 12:14:39 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <554DAE60-E5D4-4E3C-ADB1-B060DC143B8F@nohats.ca> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060604050505010609000807" Archived-At: Cc: "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 16:14:56 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060604050505010609000807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 03/13/2016 08:05 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > I did it last year and rented a car for the three days I was there. > Three days is also too long, as there is really nothing else to do > there. I did not go into Brazil though. If you don't want resort/hotel > dinner, you need to drive 10 minutes to "downtown" depending on where > your hotel is. I think a rental is much cheaper in the end then taxies. > > The falls are worth it though, and that's coming from a Canadian near > Niagra Falls. Apparently queen Elizabeth said "poor Niagra" when she > saw these falls. But we have the lakes to go along with the falls. From someone that spent his youth swimming in Lake Erie, freezing his rear end swimming around Isle Royale (in August!), and the Sleeping Bears dunes area along lake Michigan. May not be a spectacular view, but a great place to grow up and live. One of these days still I will get to the Georgian Bay area of Lake Huron. Going out to the sink holes around Alpena was fun, but I hear that I have really missed out on boating around that part of Huron. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 13, 2016, at 02:31, Sudhin Jacob > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Could you >> please let me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. >> Whether they accept cards. How far is falls from Iguazu airport. Do >> they have taxi service round the clock. Is this place safe. >> Your help is much appreciated. >> Regards, >> Sudhin >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees -- Standard Robert Moskowitz Owner HTT Consulting C:248-219-2059 F:248-968-2824 E:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit --------------060604050505010609000807 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 03/13/2016 08:05 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
I did it last year and rented a car for the three days I was there. Three days is also too long, as there is really nothing else to do there. I did not go into Brazil though. If you don't want resort/hotel dinner, you need to drive 10 minutes to "downtown" depending on where your hotel is. I think a rental is much cheaper in the end then taxies.

The falls are worth it though, and that's coming from a Canadian near Niagra Falls. Apparently queen Elizabeth said "poor Niagra" when she saw these falls.

But we have the lakes to go along with the falls.

From someone that spent his youth swimming in Lake Erie, freezing his rear end swimming around Isle Royale (in August!), and the Sleeping Bears dunes area along lake Michigan.

May not be a spectacular view, but a great place to grow up and live.

One of these days still I will get to the Georgian Bay area of Lake Huron.  Going out to the sink holes around Alpena was fun, but I hear that I have really missed out on boating around that part of Huron.


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 13, 2016, at 02:31, Sudhin Jacob <sjacob@juniper.net> wrote:

Hi All,
 
I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Could you please let me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. Whether they accept cards. How far is falls from Iguazu airport. Do they have taxi service round the clock. Is this place safe.
Your help is much appreciated.
 
Regards,
Sudhin
 
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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 16:14:58 -0000 On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote: > I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in > Buenos Aires. The scenery and wildness look incredible. Hope to get > some good hiking in. If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan to stay a couple of days there). 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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 16:19:02 -0000 ------=_Part_539075_2007965950.1457885938480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote: >> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in >> Buenos Aires.=C2=A0 The scenery and wildness look incredible.=C2=A0 Hope= to get >> some good hiking in. >If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL >Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten >better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan >to stay a couple of days there). Thanks, Fernando. =C2=A0I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area & w= ould like to explore the area. 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On 03/1= 3/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@= insidethestack.com wrote:
>> I am planning on g= oing to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
>>= ; Buenos Aires.  The scenery and wildness look incredible.  Hop= e to get
>> some good hiking in.
=
>If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since yo= u're visiting EL
>Calafate, you also visit El Chalten.= For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
>better, and it's is= only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan
>t= o stay a couple of days there).

Thanks, Fernando.  I am staying a few days in th= e El Calafate area & would like to explore the area.

Nalini 


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R's, John PS: To make it blindingly obvious what's going on, there's a window around the Rio olympics where most people don't need a visa at all. Unfortunately it starts too late for IETF+Igazu. 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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 17:04:45 -0000 ------=_Part_504470_784806637.1457888677504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great suggestions, Ines. Nalini From: Ines Robles To: Fernando Gont =20 Cc: Nalini Elkins ; Carlos Martinez ; "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org>; Paul Wouters= ; Sudhin Jacob Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls =20 Hi, +1, I highly recommend as well: =C2=A0- Iguazu and San Ignacio Min=C3=AD. =C2=A0- Calafate. I did a minitrecking over the glacier Perito Moreno. It w= as amazing. 2 days here is enough (1 day to arrive and 1 day to do the mini= trecking, the tour takes the whole day because it includes the visit to the= pasarelas to observe the glacier). =C2=A0- Chalten is close to Calafate, as Fernando said, it is very good for= trekking, e.g. to Fitz Roy [http://www.patagonia-argentina.com/en/fitz-roy= -mount] =C2=A0- In Usuahia, you should go to Tierra del Fuego National Park, inside= is the Bahia Lapatia "the end of the end :)" [https://kyleholloway.files.w= ordpress.com/2011/06/img_2885.jpg] =C2=A0- I am from Mendoza, it is located in the west part of the country. A= concagua lies in Mendoza. Aconcagua is the highest mountain in America. Men= doza is famous for the wine, is a very touristic city. Cheers, Ines 2016-03-14 3:14 GMT+11:00 Fernando Gont : On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote: > I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in > Buenos Aires.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The scenery and wildness look incredible.=C2=A0= =C2=A0Hope to get > some good hiking in. If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan to stay a couple of days there). Cheers, -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 _______________________________________________ 95attendees mailing list 95attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees ------=_Part_504470_784806637.1457888677504 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great suggestions, Ines.

Nalini


From: Ines Robles= <mariainesrobles@googlemail.com>
To: Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>
Cc: Nalini Elkins <nalini.elk= ins@insidethestack.com>; Carlos Martinez <carlos@lacnic.net>; "95a= ttendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org>; Paul Wouters <paul@noha= ts.ca>; Sudhin Jacob <sjacob@juniper.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2016 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG:= Iguazu falls

Hi,

+1, I highly re= commend as well:

 - Iguazu and San Ignacio Min=C3=AD.
 - = Calafate. I did a minitrecking over the glacier Perito Moreno. It was amazi= ng. 2 days here is enough (1 day to arrive and 1 day to do the minitrecking= , the tour takes the whole day because it includes the visit to the pasarel= as to observe the glacier).

&nbs= p;- Chalten is close to Calafate, as Fernando said, it is very good for tre= kking, e.g. to Fitz Roy [http://www= .patagonia-argentina.com/en/fitz-roy-mount]

 - In Usuahia, you should go to Tierra del Fuego Natio= nal Park, inside is the Bahia Lapatia "the end of the end :)" [https://kyleholloway.files.wordpress.c= om/2011/06/img_2885.jpg]

 - I am from Mendoza, it is located i= n the west part of the country. Aconcagua lies in Mendoza. Aconcagua is the= highest mountain in America. Mendoza is famous for the wine, is a very tou= ristic city.

Cheers,

Ines

2016-03-14 3:14= GMT+11:00 Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>:
On 03/13/20= 16 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in > Buenos Aires.   The scenery and wildness look incredible.&nb= sp;  Hope to get
> some good hiking in.

If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL=
Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan
to stay a couple of days there).

Cheers,
--
Fernando Gont
e-mail: fernando@gon= t.com.ar || fg= ont@si6networks.com
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Is this place safe. > Your help is much appreciated. > > Regards, > Sudhin > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > --001a11408ca08234ef052df3ddd5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
if you go to Iguzu I recommend using the services of this company t=
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Saludos.Luciano.

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Hi All,


=C2=A0


I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Could you pleas=
e let me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. Whether they acce=
pt cards. How far is falls from Iguazu airport. Do they have taxi service r=
ound the clock. Is this place safe.


 Your help is much appreciated.


=C2=A0


Regards,


Sudhin


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Hi,
I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres del paine naional park
in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
Roni


On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM,  wrote:

>
>
>
> On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
> >> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
> >> Buenos Aires.  The scenery and wildness look incredible.  Hope to get
> >> some good hiking in.
>
> >If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
> >Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
> >better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan
> >to stay a couple of days there).
>
> Thanks, Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area & would
> like to explore the area.
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> Nalini
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Hi,
I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torr=
es del paine naional park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
=
Roni


On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM,  <nalini.elk=
ins@insidethestack.com> wrote:



On 03/13=
/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
>> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate bef=
ore we meet in
>> Buenos Aires.=C2=A0  The scenery =
and wildness look incredible.=C2=A0  Hope to get
>>=
 some good hiking in.

>If you lie h=
iking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
>Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL C=
halten
>better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus=
 ride from El Calafate (plan
>to stay a couple of days=
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Thanks, Fernando.=C2=A0 I am staying=
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One word of caution on car rentals.  You need to be clear that the =
insurance also covers driving in Chile.

With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to notify the insurance =
company that I am taking my car to Argentina to be covered.

Better to double check and not assume crossing borders is like Europe.

Regards
John B.

> On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even  wrote:
>=20
> Hi,
> I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres del paine naional =
park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
> Roni
>=20
>=20
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM, > wrote:
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> >> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
> >> Buenos Aires.  The scenery and wildness look incredible.  Hope to =
get
> >> some good hiking in.
>=20
> >If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
> >Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
> >better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate =
(plan
> >to stay a couple of days there).
>=20
> Thanks, Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area & =
would like to explore the area.
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> Nalini=20
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One word of caution on car rentals.  You need to be =
clear that the insurance also covers driving in Chile.

With my personal car insurance in Chile =
I need to notify the insurance company that I am taking my car to =
Argentina to be covered.

Better to double check and not assume crossing borders is =
like Europe.

Regards
John B.

On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even <even.roni@gmail.com>=
 wrote:

Hi,
I rented a car in El-Calafate =
and went to the torres del paine naional park in Chile. Did the hiking =
to the torres
Roni


On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM,  <nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com> wrote:



On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
>> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate =
before we meet in
>> Buenos =
Aires.   The scenery and wildness look incredible.   Hope to =
get
>> some good hiking in.

>If you lie =
hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
>Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For =
hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
>better, =
and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan
>to stay a couple of days =
there).

Thanks, =
Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area & =
would like to explore the area.

Nalini 



 
 
  

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I do not remember which company I used but it was one of the international
chains. You must ask for a car that can go to Chile and get from the rental
company the papers needs for border crossing.

Roni

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John Bradley  wrote:

> One word of caution on car rentals.  You need to be clear that the
> insurance also covers driving in Chile.
>
> With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to notify the insurance
> company that I am taking my car to Argentina to be covered.
>
> Better to double check and not assume crossing borders is like Europe.
>
> Regards
> John B.
>
> On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres del paine naional
> park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
> Roni
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM,  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
>> >> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
>> >> Buenos Aires.  The scenery and wildness look incredible.  Hope to get
>> >> some good hiking in.
>>
>> >If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
>> >Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
>> >better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan
>> >to stay a couple of days there).
>>
>> Thanks, Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area &
>> would like to explore the area.
>>
>> Nalini
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I do not remember which company I used but it was one of t=
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t from the rental company the papers needs for border crossing.

Roni

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John Bradley <=
;jbradley@me.com&g=
t; wrote:
One word of caution on car rentals.=C2=A0 You need to be clear =
that the insurance also covers driving in Chile.

With my=
 personal car insurance in Chile I need to notify the insurance company tha=
t I am taking my car to Argentina to be covered.

B=
etter to double check and not assume crossing borders is like Europe.
=


Regards
John B.
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7:07 PM, Roni Even <even.roni@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,<=
div>I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres del paine naional =
park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
Roni


On Sun,=
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m> wrote:



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3/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
>> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate be=
fore we meet in
>> Buenos Aires.=C2=A0  The scenery=
 and wildness look incredible.=C2=A0  Hope to get
>>=
; some good hiking in.

>If you lie =
hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
>Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL =
Chalten
>better, and it's is only a short/cheap bu=
s ride from El Calafate (plan
>to stay a couple of day=
s there).

Thanks, Fernando.=C2=A0 I am stayin=
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Nalini=C2=A0

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Let me help you a little bit with Buenos Aires and
surroundings:
Are you looking for a one-day trip?
Maybe you can go to visit Colonia del Sacramento (Uruguay)
as long as you do  not have any travel/visa constraints.
You can take Buquebus to cross the river to this typical
and well-preserved colonial city.
Regards,

                           Diego


On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Sudhin Jacob  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Let me thank you for the help. I have booked hotel in Ruta Nacional, I
> think falls is in opposite direction. Is there any national park in Iguaz=
u.
> What all areas are good in Iguazu other than falls.
>
> Is there buses from airport to Ruta Nacional. I have taken yellow fever
> shot. I don=E2=80=99t have Brazilian visa but can=E2=80=99t I cover the f=
alls from
> Argentina side. Could you please let me know how is Goucho tour to
>
> Learn about Argentina culture. Is there any other places in Buenos Aires
> other than Tigre delta to  cover in one day. Your input is much
> appreciated. Do the hotels in Buenos Aires accept Amex cards.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sudhin
>
>
>
> *From:* Roni Even [mailto:even.roni@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 1:40 PM
> *To:* John Bradley 
> *Cc:* nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; 95attendees@ietf.org; Sudhin
> Jacob ; Paul Wouters ; Carlos
> Martinez Martinez Cagnazzo ; Fernando Gont <
> fernando@gont.com.ar>
> *Subject:* Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls
>
>
>
> I do not remember which company I used but it was one of the internationa=
l
> chains. You must ask for a car that can go to Chile and get from the rent=
al
> company the papers needs for border crossing.
>
>
>
> Roni
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John Bradley  wrote:
>
> One word of caution on car rentals.  You need to be clear that the
> insurance also covers driving in Chile.
>
>
>
> With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to notify the insurance
> company that I am taking my car to Argentina to be covered.
>
>
>
> Better to double check and not assume crossing borders is like Europe.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> John B.
>
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even  wrote:
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>
>
> Hi,
>
> I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres del paine naional
> park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
>
> Roni
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM,  wrote=
:
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>
> On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
> >> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
> >> Buenos Aires.  The scenery and wildness look incredible.  Hope to get
> >> some good hiking in.
>
> >If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
> >Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
> >better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan
> >to stay a couple of days there).
>
>
> Thanks, Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area & woul=
d
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Let me help you a little bit with Buenos Aires and
surroundings:
Are you looking for a one-day trip?=

Maybe you can go to visit Colonia del Sacramento (Uruguay)
as long as you do=C2=A0 not have any travel/visa constraints.<=
br>
You can take Buquebus to cross the river to this typical
<=
/div>
and well-preserved colonial city.
Regards,

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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Diego


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On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Sudhin Jacob <=
span dir=3D"ltr"><sjacob@juniper.net> wrote:




Hi All,


=C2=A0


Let me thank you for the help. I have booked hotel in
Ruta Nacional, I think falls is in opposite direction. Is there any n=
ational park in Iguazu. What all areas are good in Iguazu other than falls.=



Is there buses from airport to Ruta Nacional. I have=
 taken yellow fever shot. I don=E2=80=99t have Brazilian visa but can=E2=80=
=99t I cover the falls from Argentina side. Could
 you please let me know how is Goucho tour to <=
/p>

Learn about Argentina culture. Is there any other pl=
aces in Buenos Aires other than Tigre delta to =C2=A0cover in one day. Your=
 input is much appreciated. Do the hotels
 in Buenos Aires accept Amex cards.


=C2=A0


=C2=A0


Regards,


Sudhin


=C2=A0


From: Roni Even [mailto:even.roni@gmail.com]


Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:40 PM

To: John Bradley <jbradley@me.com>

Cc: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; 95attendees@ietf.org; Sudhin Jacob <sjacob@juniper.net&g=
t;; Paul Wouters <pa=
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Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls


=C2=A0




I do not remember which company I used but it was on=
e of the international chains. You must ask for a car that can go to Chile =
and get from the rental company the papers needs for border crossing.




=C2=A0






Roni








=C2=A0




On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John Bradley <<=
a href=3D"mailto:jbradley@me.com" target=3D"_blank">jbradley@me.com>=
 wrote:






One word of caution on car rentals.=C2=A0 You need t=
o be clear that the insurance also covers driving in Chile.



=C2=A0






With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to no=
tify the insurance company that I am taking my car to Argentina to be cover=
ed.






=C2=A0






Better to double check and not assume crossing borde=
rs is like Europe.






=C2=A0






Regards






John B.










=C2=A0












On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even <even.roni@gmail.com&g=
t; wrote:




=C2=A0






Hi,




I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres=
 del paine naional park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres






Roni






=C2=A0








=C2=A0




On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM, <nalini.elkins@inside=
thestack.com> wrote:










=C2=A0






=C2=A0












On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM,
nalin=
i.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:

>> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet i=
n

>> Buenos Aires.=C2=A0 The scenery and wildness look incredible.=C2=
=A0 Hope to get

>> some good hiking in.



>If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting E=
L

>Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalt=
en

>better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (p=
lan

>to stay a couple of days there).






Thanks, Fernando.=C2=A0 I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area &am=
p; would like to explore the area.






=C2=A0






Nalini=C2=A0




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Hi,

+1, I highly recommend as well:

 - Iguazu and San Ignacio Min=C3=AD.

 - Calafate. I did a minitrecking over the glacier Perito Moreno. It was
amazing. 2 days here is enough (1 day to arrive and 1 day to do the
minitrecking, the tour takes the whole day because it includes the visit to
the pasarelas to observe the glacier).

 - Chalten is close to Calafate, as Fernando said, it is very good for
trekking, e.g. to Fitz Roy [
http://www.patagonia-argentina.com/en/fitz-roy-mount]

 - In Usuahia, you should go to Tierra del Fuego National Park, inside is
the Bahia Lapatia "the end of the end :)" [
https://kyleholloway.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/img_2885.jpg]

 - I am from Mendoza, it is located in the west part of the country.
Aconcagua lies in Mendoza. Aconcagua is the highest mountain in America.
Mendoza is famous for the wine, is a very touristic city.

Cheers,

Ines

2016-03-14 3:14 GMT+11:00 Fernando Gont :

> On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
> > I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
> > Buenos Aires.   The scenery and wildness look incredible.   Hope to get
> > some good hiking in.
>
> If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
> Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
> better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan
> to stay a couple of days there).
>
> Cheers,
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Hi,

+1, I highly recommend a=
s well:

=C2=A0- Iguazu and San Ignacio Min=C3=AD.<=
/div>

=C2=A0- Calafate. I did a minitrecking over the gl=
acier Perito Moreno. It was amazing. 2 days here is enough (1 day to arrive=
 and 1 day to do the minitrecking, the tour takes the whole day because it =
includes the visit to the pasarelas to observe the glacier).

=


=C2=A0- In Usuahia, you should go to =
Tierra del Fuego National Park, inside is the Bahia Lapatia "the end o=
f the end :)" [https://kyleholloway.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/img_288=
5.jpg]

=C2=A0- I am from Mendoza, it is locate=
d in the west part of the country. Aconcagua lies in Mendoza. Aconcagua is =
the highest mountain in America. Mendoza is famous for the wine, is a very =
touristic city.

Cheers,

I=
nes

2016-03-=
14 3:14 GMT+11:00 Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>:
On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com w=
rote:

> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
> Buenos Aires.=C2=A0 =C2=A0The scenery and wildness look incredible.=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0Hope to get

> some good hiking in.



If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visitin=
g EL

Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan<=
br>
to stay a couple of days there).




Cheers,

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e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar ||=
 fgont@si6networks.com

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 I heard that you can also take a ferry to Colonia.
Which one (ferry or bus) is recommended? Any early reservation required?



On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Diego Dujovne  wr=
ote:
> Let me help you a little bit with Buenos Aires and
> surroundings:
> Are you looking for a one-day trip?
> Maybe you can go to visit Colonia del Sacramento (Uruguay)
> as long as you do  not have any travel/visa constraints.
> You can take Buquebus to cross the river to this typical
> and well-preserved colonial city.
> Regards,
>
>                            Diego
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Sudhin Jacob  wrote=
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>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me thank you for the help. I have booked hotel in Ruta Nacional, I
>> think falls is in opposite direction. Is there any national park in Igua=
zu.
>> What all areas are good in Iguazu other than falls.
>>
>> Is there buses from airport to Ruta Nacional. I have taken yellow fever
>> shot. I don=E2=80=99t have Brazilian visa but can=E2=80=99t I cover the =
falls from Argentina
>> side. Could you please let me know how is Goucho tour to
>>
>> Learn about Argentina culture. Is there any other places in Buenos Aires
>> other than Tigre delta to  cover in one day. Your input is much apprecia=
ted.
>> Do the hotels in Buenos Aires accept Amex cards.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sudhin
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Roni Even [mailto:even.roni@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:40 PM
>> To: John Bradley 
>> Cc: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; 95attendees@ietf.org; Sudhin Jacob
>> ; Paul Wouters ; Carlos Martinez
>> Martinez Cagnazzo ; Fernando Gont 
>> Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls
>>
>>
>>
>> I do not remember which company I used but it was one of the internation=
al
>> chains. You must ask for a car that can go to Chile and get from the ren=
tal
>> company the papers needs for border crossing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Roni
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John Bradley  wrote:
>>
>> One word of caution on car rentals.  You need to be clear that the
>> insurance also covers driving in Chile.
>>
>>
>>
>> With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to notify the insurance
>> company that I am taking my car to Argentina to be covered.
>>
>>
>>
>> Better to double check and not assume crossing borders is like Europe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> John B.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres del paine naional
>> park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
>>
>> Roni
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM,  wrot=
e:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
>> >> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
>> >> Buenos Aires.  The scenery and wildness look incredible.  Hope to get
>> >> some good hiking in.
>>
>> >If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
>> >Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
>> >better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan
>> >to stay a couple of days there).
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area & wou=
ld
>> like to explore the area.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nalini
>>
>>
>>
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All,

This is a note from the IETF Mentoring program.

The Mentoring program can help with your integration and success into the IETF.  It is open to attendees who have been to fewer than 5 IETF meetings in person.

It is especially important if you are working on a draft or wish to participate actively in a Working Group.   We can help match you with an experienced IETFer (mentor) who can introduce you to the Working Group chairs and other important people in your area of interest.

The Mentoring program also has an open invitation to all mentees & mentors to meet for lunch every day of IETF week.   Much of the benefit of attending in person can be informal conversations that you have with others in the hallways, over meals, etc.   The more comfortable you feel at the IETF and the people, the better your chances of success.

We also have the popular Speed Mentoring events both on Sunday & Monday at breakfast.   This is where you can have conversations with 10 or more experienced IETFers in one hour.   This way, if you have a question at a WG, then you may already know someone who may be able to help you.

You may sign up for the mentoring program as a mentee by filling out the form at:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/XBWQWPW

You may sign up as a mentor (if you did not already by checking the form at registration) by:


https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/XPJ3LRK

Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions. 

Thanks,

Nalini Elkins
IETF Mentoring Program Lead


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On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Raul Echeberria  wro=
te:
>
> El 14 mar. 2016, a las 1:23 p.m., Behcet Sarikaya 
> escribi=C3=B3:
>
> I heard that you can also take a ferry to Colonia.
> Which one (ferry or bus) is recommended?
>
>
> Ferry.
>

Thanks I did not know that Buquebus was not BUS service it was ferry servic=
e.

>
> Any early reservation required?
>
>
> The weekend before IETF is surely already sold out because it is a holida=
y
> (Easter) in Uruguay and Argentina. But for working days, you can usually =
buy
> the ticket the same day or the day before.
>
> https://www.buquebus.com/english/buquebus-english
>

I checked this page, there is something strange,
The arrival times are sometimes short sometimes long, why?

For American citizen, do we need Uruguay visa? I heard that there is
no visa needed also no reciprocity fee?

Thanks again for all the info.

Behcet
>
>
> Ra=C3=BAl
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 8:38 AM, Diego Dujovne 
> wrote:
>
> Let me help you a little bit with Buenos Aires and
> surroundings:
> Are you looking for a one-day trip?
> Maybe you can go to visit Colonia del Sacramento (Uruguay)
> as long as you do  not have any travel/visa constraints.
> You can take Buquebus to cross the river to this typical
> and well-preserved colonial city.
> Regards,
>
>                           Diego
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Sudhin Jacob  wrote=
:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Let me thank you for the help. I have booked hotel in Ruta Nacional, I
> think falls is in opposite direction. Is there any national park in Iguaz=
u.
> What all areas are good in Iguazu other than falls.
>
> Is there buses from airport to Ruta Nacional. I have taken yellow fever
> shot. I don=E2=80=99t have Brazilian visa but can=E2=80=99t I cover the f=
alls from Argentina
> side. Could you please let me know how is Goucho tour to
>
> Learn about Argentina culture. Is there any other places in Buenos Aires
> other than Tigre delta to  cover in one day. Your input is much appreciat=
ed.
> Do the hotels in Buenos Aires accept Amex cards.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sudhin
>
>
>
> From: Roni Even [mailto:even.roni@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:40 PM
> To: John Bradley 
> Cc: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; 95attendees@ietf.org; Sudhin Jacob
> ; Paul Wouters ; Carlos Martinez
> Martinez Cagnazzo ; Fernando Gont 
> Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls
>
>
>
> I do not remember which company I used but it was one of the internationa=
l
> chains. You must ask for a car that can go to Chile and get from the rent=
al
> company the papers needs for border crossing.
>
>
>
> Roni
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John Bradley  wrote:
>
> One word of caution on car rentals.  You need to be clear that the
> insurance also covers driving in Chile.
>
>
>
> With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to notify the insurance
> company that I am taking my car to Argentina to be covered.
>
>
>
> Better to double check and not assume crossing borders is like Europe.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> John B.
>
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres del paine naional
> park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
>
> Roni
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM,  wrote=
:
>
>
>
>
>
> On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM, nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
>
> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
> Buenos Aires.  The scenery and wildness look incredible.  Hope to get
> some good hiking in.
>
>
> If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
> Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
> better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan
> to stay a couple of days there).
>
>
>
> Thanks, Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area & woul=
d
> like to explore the area.
>
>
>
> Nalini
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Ra=FAl=2C you have a couple of companies giving this service (Ferrying to C=
olonia=2C Uruguay).
The major of those is Buquebus=2C and its passanger center es close the hot=
el where the IETF meets.
As far as I know=2C they have 2 kind of services (For passangers):

One=2C covers the distance in about 1 hour.
The other=2C takes 3=2C5/4 Hs. to cover itr.

You can check all this at the Buquebus' page:

www.buquebus.com.ar


Regards.
Juan.


> Date: Mon=2C 14 Mar 2016 11:40:03 -0500
> From: sarikaya2012@gmail.com
> To: echeberria@isoc.org
> CC: 95attendees@ietf.org=3B diego.dujovne@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [95attendees] Colonia
>=20
> On Mon=2C Mar 14=2C 2016 at 11:29 AM=2C Raul Echeberria  wrote:
> >
> > El 14 mar. 2016=2C a las 1:23 p.m.=2C Behcet Sarikaya 
> > escribi=F3:
> >
> > I heard that you can also take a ferry to Colonia.
> > Which one (ferry or bus) is recommended?
> >
> >
> > Ferry.
> >
>=20
> Thanks I did not know that Buquebus was not BUS service it was ferry serv=
ice.
>=20
> >
> > Any early reservation required?
> >
> >
> > The weekend before IETF is surely already sold out because it is a holi=
day
> > (Easter) in Uruguay and Argentina. But for working days=2C you can usua=
lly buy
> > the ticket the same day or the day before.
> >
> > https://www.buquebus.com/english/buquebus-english
> >
>=20
> I checked this page=2C there is something strange=2C
> The arrival times are sometimes short sometimes long=2C why?
>=20
> For American citizen=2C do we need Uruguay visa? I heard that there is
> no visa needed also no reciprocity fee?
>=20
> Thanks again for all the info.
>=20
> Behcet
> >
> >
> > Ra=FAl
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon=2C Mar 14=2C 2016 at 8:38 AM=2C Diego Dujovne 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Let me help you a little bit with Buenos Aires and
> > surroundings:
> > Are you looking for a one-day trip?
> > Maybe you can go to visit Colonia del Sacramento (Uruguay)
> > as long as you do  not have any travel/visa constraints.
> > You can take Buquebus to cross the river to this typical
> > and well-preserved colonial city.
> > Regards=2C
> >
> >                           Diego
> >
> >
> > On Mon=2C Mar 14=2C 2016 at 10:23 AM=2C Sudhin Jacob  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi All=2C
> >
> >
> >
> > Let me thank you for the help. I have booked hotel in Ruta Nacional=2C =
I
> > think falls is in opposite direction. Is there any national park in Igu=
azu.
> > What all areas are good in Iguazu other than falls.
> >
> > Is there buses from airport to Ruta Nacional. I have taken yellow fever
> > shot. I don=92t have Brazilian visa but can=92t I cover the falls from =
Argentina
> > side. Could you please let me know how is Goucho tour to
> >
> > Learn about Argentina culture. Is there any other places in Buenos Aire=
s
> > other than Tigre delta to  cover in one day. Your input is much appreci=
ated.
> > Do the hotels in Buenos Aires accept Amex cards.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards=2C
> >
> > Sudhin
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Roni Even [mailto:even.roni@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday=2C March 14=2C 2016 1:40 PM
> > To: John Bradley 
> > Cc: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com=3B 95attendees@ietf.org=3B Sudhin =
Jacob
> > =3B Paul Wouters =3B Carlos Martine=
z
> > Martinez Cagnazzo =3B Fernando Gont 
> > Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls
> >
> >
> >
> > I do not remember which company I used but it was one of the internatio=
nal
> > chains. You must ask for a car that can go to Chile and get from the re=
ntal
> > company the papers needs for border crossing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Roni
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon=2C Mar 14=2C 2016 at 12:24 AM=2C John Bradley  =
wrote:
> >
> > One word of caution on car rentals.  You need to be clear that the
> > insurance also covers driving in Chile.
> >
> >
> >
> > With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to notify the insurance
> > company that I am taking my car to Argentina to be covered.
> >
> >
> >
> > Better to double check and not assume crossing borders is like Europe.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John B.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 13=2C 2016=2C at 7:07 PM=2C Roni Even  wrot=
e:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi=2C
> >
> > I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres del paine naional
> > park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
> >
> > Roni
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun=2C Mar 13=2C 2016 at 6:18 PM=2C  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM=2C nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
> >
> > I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
> > Buenos Aires.  The scenery and wildness look incredible.  Hope to get
> > some good hiking in.
> >
> >
> > If you lie hiking=2C I highly recommend that=2C since you're visiting E=
L
> > Calafate=2C you also visit El Chalten. For hikng=2C you'll lie EL Chalt=
en
> > better=2C and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (pla=
n
> > to stay a couple of days there).
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks=2C Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area & =
would
> > like to explore the area.
> >
> >
> >
> > Nalini
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Ra=FAl=2C you have a couple of companies giv=
ing this service (Ferrying to Colonia=2C Uruguay).
The major of those is=
 Buquebus=2C and its passanger center es close the hotel where the IETF mee=
ts.

As far as I know=2C they have 2 kind of =
services (For passangers):

One=2C covers the distance in about 1 hou=
r.
The other=2C takes 3=2C5/4 Hs. to cover itr.

You can check all=
 this at the Buquebus' page:

www.buquebus.com.ar


Regards.
Juan.

>=3B Date: Mon=2C 14 Mar 2016 11:40:03 -0500
>=3B From: sarika=
ya2012@gmail.com
>=3B To: echeberria@isoc.org
>=3B CC: 95attendee=
s@ietf.org=3B diego.dujovne@gmail.com
>=3B Subject: Re: [95attendees] =
Colonia
>=3B 
>=3B On Mon=2C Mar 14=2C 2016 at 11:29 AM=2C Raul E=
cheberria <=3Becheberria@isoc.org>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B=
 >=3B El 14 mar. 2016=2C a las 1:23 p.m.=2C Behcet Sarikaya <=3Bsarikay=
a2012@gmail.com>=3B
>=3B >=3B escribi=F3:
>=3B >=3B
>=
=3B >=3B I heard that you can also take a ferry to Colonia.
>=3B >=
=3B Which one (ferry or bus) is recommended?
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=
=3B
>=3B >=3B Ferry.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B 
>=3B Thanks I =
did not know that Buquebus was not BUS service it was ferry service.
>=
=3B 
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Any early reservation required?
&=
gt=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B The weekend before IETF is s=
urely already sold out because it is a holiday
>=3B >=3B (Easter) in=
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>=
=3B >=3B the ticket the same day or the day before.
>=3B >=3B
&=
gt=3B >=3B https://www.buquebus.com/english/buquebus-english
>=3B &g=
t=3B
>=3B 
>=3B I checked this page=2C there is something strange=
=2C
>=3B The arrival times are sometimes short sometimes long=2C why?<=
br>>=3B 
>=3B For American citizen=2C do we need Uruguay visa? I hea=
rd that there is
>=3B no visa needed also no reciprocity fee?
>=
=3B 
>=3B Thanks again for all the info.
>=3B 
>=3B Behcet>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Ra=FAl
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B On Mon=
=2C Mar 14=2C 2016 at 8:38 AM=2C Diego Dujovne <=3Bdiego.dujovne@gmail.co=
m>=3B
>=3B >=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Let me he=
lp you a little bit with Buenos Aires and
>=3B >=3B surroundings:>=3B >=3B Are you looking for a one-day trip?
>=3B >=3B Maybe y=
ou can go to visit Colonia del Sacramento (Uruguay)
>=3B >=3B as lon=
g as you do  not have any travel/visa constraints.
>=3B >=3B You can=
 take Buquebus to cross the river to this typical
>=3B >=3B and well=
-preserved colonial city.
>=3B >=3B Regards=2C
>=3B >=3B
&=
gt=3B >=3B                           Diego
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=
=3B
>=3B >=3B On Mon=2C Mar 14=2C 2016 at 10:23 AM=2C Sudhin Jacob &=
lt=3Bsjacob@juniper.net>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
&=
gt=3B >=3B Hi All=2C
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B >=3B Let me thank you for the help. I have booked hotel in Ruta =
Nacional=2C I
>=3B >=3B think falls is in opposite direction. Is the=
re any national park in Iguazu.
>=3B >=3B What all areas are good in=
 Iguazu other than falls.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Is there buses =
from airport to Ruta Nacional. I have taken yellow fever
>=3B >=3B s=
hot. I don=92t have Brazilian visa but can=92t I cover the falls from Argen=
tina
>=3B >=3B side. Could you please let me know how is Goucho tour=
 to
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Learn about Argentina culture. Is the=
re any other places in Buenos Aires
>=3B >=3B other than Tigre delta=
 to  cover in one day. Your input is much appreciated.
>=3B >=3B Do =
the hotels in Buenos Aires accept Amex cards.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B &g=
t=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Re=
gards=2C
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Sudhin
>=3B >=3B
>=
=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B From: Roni Even [mailto:even.r=
oni@gmail.com]
>=3B >=3B Sent: Monday=2C March 14=2C 2016 1:40 PM>=3B >=3B To: John Bradley <=3Bjbradley@me.com>=3B
>=3B >=
=3B Cc: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com=3B 95attendees@ietf.org=3B Sudhin =
Jacob
>=3B >=3B <=3Bsjacob@juniper.net>=3B=3B Paul Wouters <=
=3Bpaul@nohats.ca>=3B=3B Carlos Martinez
>=3B >=3B Martinez Cagnaz=
zo <=3Bcarlos@lacnic.net>=3B=3B Fernando Gont <=3Bfernando@gont.com.a=
r>=3B
>=3B >=3B Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls
&g=
t=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I do not rem=
ember which company I used but it was one of the international
>=3B &g=
t=3B chains. You must ask for a car that can go to Chile and get from the r=
ental
>=3B >=3B company the papers needs for border crossing.
>=
=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Roni
>=
=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B On Mon=2C Mar=
 14=2C 2016 at 12:24 AM=2C John Bradley <=3Bjbradley@me.com>=3B wrote:<=
br>>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B One word of caution on car rentals.  You =
need to be clear that the
>=3B >=3B insurance also covers driving in=
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>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B=
 With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to notify the insurance
=
>=3B >=3B company that I am taking my car to Argentina to be covered.>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Better t=
o double check and not assume crossing borders is like Europe.
>=3B &g=
t=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Regards
>=3B &=
gt=3B
>=3B >=3B John B.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B =
>=3B
>=3B >=3B On Mar 13=2C 2016=2C at 7:07 PM=2C Roni Even <=3B=
even.roni@gmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=
=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Hi=2C
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I rente=
d a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres del paine naional
>=3B &=
gt=3B park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
>=3B >=3B
>=
=3B >=3B Roni
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=
=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B On Sun=2C Mar 13=2C 2016 at 6:=
18 PM=2C <=3Bnalini.elkins@insidethestack.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=
=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
=
>=3B >=3B On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM=2C nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wr=
ote:
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B I am planning on going to Ushuaia an=
d El Calafate before we meet in
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 and wildness look incredible.  Hope to get
>=3B >=3B some good hiki=
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>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B If you lie hiking=
=2C I highly recommend that=2C since you're visiting EL
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=
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>=3B >=
=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Thanks=2C Fernando. =
 I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area &=3B would
>=3B &g=
t=3B like to explore the area.
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B =
>=3B
>=3B >=3B Nalini
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B =
>=3B
>=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B __________________________________=
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Mi two cents about "Saltos del Mocon=E1":
In times of high rain (Or=2C best said=2C a lot of water in the river)=2C t=
he falls remain invisible (I mena=2C underwater).
The MIsiones (Province where Mocona is)=2C has this web page:
http://saltosdelmocona.tur.ar/informacion-saltos-del-mocona.php
That gives the "status" of the falls (last report: March the 9th)=2C and if=
 the park is open=2C and if the river is open to sail.
(Sorry=2C I wasn't able to find an english page of this report)

As a bit of funny information=2C "mocon=E1" means "Who swallows everything"
Regards.Juan.




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For a day tour I would go to Colonia in Uruguay.=0A=

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Mi two cents about "Saltos del Mocon=E1":

In times of high rain (Or=2C best said=2C a lot of =
water in the river)=2C the falls remain invisible (I mena=2C underwater).

The MIsiones (Province where Mocona is)=2C has this=
 web page:


Th=
at gives the "status" of the falls (last report: March the 9th)=2C and if t=
he park is open=2C and if the river is open to sail.

(Sorry=2C I wasn't able to find an english page of this report)


As a bit of funny information=2C "mocon=E1"=
 means "Who swallows everything"

Regards.
Juan.




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Date: Mon=2C 14 Mar 2016 20:31:30 +0000
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Both sides are nice. On the Brazilian side the views are better and in=
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Hi All,

Let me thank you for the wonderful help. Much appreciated.

Regards,
Sudhin

From: Juan Janczuk [mailto:jjanczuk@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:56 AM
To: Christian O'Flaherty ; Sudhin Jacob 
Cc: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; Roni Even ; John=
 Bradley ; 95attendees@ietf.org; Fernando Gont ; Paul Wouters ; carlos@lacnic.net
Subject: RE: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls

Mi two cents about "Saltos del Mocon=E1":

In times of high rain (Or, best said, a lot of water in the river), the fal=
ls remain invisible (I mena, underwater).

The MIsiones (Province where Mocona is), has this web page:

http://saltosdelmocona.tur.ar/informacion-saltos-del-mocona.php

That gives the "status" of the falls (last report: March the 9th), and if t=
he park is open, and if the river is open to sail.

(Sorry, I wasn't able to find an english page of this report)


As a bit of funny information, "mocon=E1" means "Who swallows everything"

Regards.
Juan.




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From: oflaherty@isoc.org
To: sjacob@juniper.net
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:31:30 +0000
CC: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; even.roni@gmail.com; jbradley@me.com; 95attendees@ietf.org; ferna=
ndo@gont.com.ar; paul@nohats.ca; carlos@lacnic.net
Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls

Let me thank you for the help. I have booked hotel in Ruta Nacional, I thin=
k falls is in opposite direction. Is there any national park in Iguazu. Wha=
t all areas are good in Iguazu other than falls.

There are other falls not very popular but pretty unique: Saltos del Mocona=
.

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/argentina/saltos-del-mocona/introduction

I've never been there but I was told they're very nice. Do not expect fancy=
 hotels or facilities, this area hasn't been exploited yet.

Is there buses from airport to Ruta Nacional.

Ruta Nacional is not a location but a road. You should provide the number o=
f the route and the Km to reference a location. Like "Ruta Nacional 14 Km 1=
200". I would ask the hotel regarding buses from Airport.

I have taken yellow fever shot. I don't have Brazilian visa but can't I cov=
er the falls from Argentina side.

Both sides are nice. On the Brazilian side the views are better and in the =
Argentinian side you walk very close to the falls and you can also navigate=
.

Could you please let me know how is Goucho tour to
Learn about Argentina culture. Is there any other places in Buenos Aires ot=
her than Tigre delta to  cover in one day.

For a day tour I would go to Colonia in Uruguay.

Your input is much appreciated. Do the hotels in Buenos Aires accept Amex c=
ards.

Yes.

Christian



Regards,
Sudhin

From: Roni Even [mailto:even.roni@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 1:40 PM
To: John Bradley >
Cc: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; 95attendees@ietf.org; Sudhin Jacob >; Paul Wouters >; Carlos Martinez Martinez Cagnazzo >; Fernando Gont >
Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls

I do not remember which company I used but it was one of the international =
chains. You must ask for a car that can go to Chile and get from the rental=
 company the papers needs for border crossing.

Roni

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John Bradley > wrote:
One word of caution on car rentals.  You need to be clear that the insuranc=
e also covers driving in Chile.

With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to notify the insurance comp=
any that I am taking my car to Argentina to be covered.

Better to double check and not assume crossing borders is like Europe.

Regards
John B.

On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even > wrote:

Hi,
I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres del paine naional park=
 in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
Roni


On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM, > wrote:


On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM,nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
>> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
>> Buenos Aires.  The scenery and wildness look incredible.  Hope to get
>> some good hiking in.

>If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
>Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
>better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan
>to stay a couple of days there).

Thanks, Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area & would =
like to explore the area.

Nalini


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Hi All,


 


Let me thank you for the wonderful he=
lp. Much appreciated.


 


Regards,


Sudhin


 






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msn.com]


Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:56 AM

To: Christian O'Flaherty <oflaherty@isoc.org>; Sudhin Jacob &l=
t;sjacob@juniper.net>

Cc: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; Roni Even <even.roni@gmail.=
com>; John Bradley <jbradley@me.com>; 95attendees@ietf.org; Fernan=
do Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>; Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>; =
carlos@lacnic.net

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Mi two cents about "Saltos del Mocon=E1":




 






In times of high rain (Or, best said, a lot of water in the river), =
the falls remain invisible (I mena, underwater).






 






The MIsiones (Province where Mocona is), has this web page:






 







 






That gives the "status" of the falls (last report: March t=
he 9th), and if the park is open, and if the river is open to sail.






 






(Sorry, I wasn't able to find an english page of this report)






 






 






As a bit of funny information, "mocon=E1" means "Who =
swallows everything"






 






Regards.






Juan.






 






 






 








 










From:
oflaherty@isoc.org

To: sjacob@juniper.net

Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:31:30 +0000

CC: nalini.elkins@insid=
ethestack.com;
even.roni@gmail.com; 
jbradley@me.com; 95attendees@ie=
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fernando@gont.com.ar; 
paul@nohats.ca; carlos@lacnic.net<=
/a>

Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls








 




Let me thank you for the help. I have booked hotel in Ruta Nacional, =
I think falls is in opposite direction. Is there any national
 park in Iguazu. What all areas are good in Iguazu other than falls.=











 






There are other falls not very popular but pretty unique: Saltos del=
 Mocona.






 







 






I’ve never been there but I was told they’re very nice. =
Do not expect fancy hotels or facilities, this area hasn’t been explo=
ited yet.




 








Is there buses from airport to Ruta Nacional.










 






Ruta Nacional is not a location but a road. You should provide the n=
umber of the route and the Km to reference a location. Like “Ruta Nac=
ional 14 Km 1200”. I would ask the hotel regarding buses
 from Airport.




 








I have taken yellow fever shot. I don’t h=
ave Brazilian visa but can’t I cover the falls from Argentina side.











 






Both sides are nice. On the Brazilian side the views are better and =
in the Argentinian side you walk very close to the falls and you can also n=
avigate.




 








Could you please let me know how is Goucho tour=
 to 






Learn about Argentina culture. Is there any oth=
er places in Buenos Aires other than Tigre delta to  cover in one day.











 






For a day tour I would go to Colonia in Uruguay.



 








Your input is much appreciated. Do the hotels i=
n Buenos Aires accept Amex cards.










 






Yes.






 






Christian




 








 






 






Regards,






Sudhin






 






From: Roni
 Even [=
mailto:even.roni@gmail.com] 

Sent: Monday, M=
arch 14, 2016 1:40 PM

To: John Bradle=
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Cc: nalin=
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>; Carlos Martinez Martinez Cagnazzo <carlos@lacnic.net>;
 Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>

Subject: Re: [9=
5attendees] REG: Iguazu falls






 








I do not remember which company I used but it was on=
e of the international chains. You must ask for a car that can go to Chile =
and get from the rental company the papers needs for border crossing.<=
/o:p>








 










Roni












 








On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John Bradley <<=
a href=3D"mailto:jbradley@me.com" target=3D"_blank">jbradley@me.com> wrote:










One word of caution on car rentals.  You need t=
o be clear that the insurance also covers driving in Chile.








 










With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to no=
tify the insurance company that I am taking my car to Argentina to be cover=
ed.










 










Better to double check and not assume crossing borde=
rs is like Europe.










 










Regards










John B.














 
















On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even <even.roni@gmail.com> wrote:








 










Hi,








I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres=
 del paine naional park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres









Roni










 












 








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On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM,nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:

>> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet i=
n

>> Buenos Aires.  The scenery and wildness look incredible. =
; Hope to get

>> some good hiking in.



>If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
>Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
>better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan<=
br>
>to stay a couple of days there).










Thanks, Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area &am=
p; would like to explore the area.










 









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In case you decide to visit the Iguazu Falls I'd like to recommend this
hotel I went a couple years ago > http://www.hotellacanteraiguazu.com/

It's located in the middle of the jungle as you will see on it's website.

You will have to take a taxi each day to go to the park where the falls are
located, but the hotel experience is incredible.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Sudhin Jacob  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Let me thank you for the wonderful help. Much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sudhin
>
>
>
> *From:* Juan Janczuk [mailto:jjanczuk@msn.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:56 AM
> *To:* Christian O'Flaherty ; Sudhin Jacob <
> sjacob@juniper.net>
> *Cc:* nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; Roni Even ;
> John Bradley ; 95attendees@ietf.org; Fernando Gont <
> fernando@gont.com.ar>; Paul Wouters ; carlos@lacnic.net
> *Subject:* RE: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls
>
>
>
> Mi two cents about "Saltos del Mocon=C3=A1":
>
>
>
> In times of high rain (Or, best said, a lot of water in the river), the
> falls remain invisible (I mena, underwater).
>
>
>
> The MIsiones (Province where Mocona is), has this web page:
>
>
>
> http://saltosdelmocona.tur.ar/informacion-saltos-del-mocona.php
>
>
>
> That gives the "status" of the falls (last report: March the 9th), and if
> the park is open, and if the river is open to sail.
>
>
>
> (Sorry, I wasn't able to find an english page of this report)
>
>
>
>
>
> As a bit of funny information, "mocon=C3=A1" means "Who swallows everythi=
ng"
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Juan.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: oflaherty@isoc.org
> To: sjacob@juniper.net
> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:31:30 +0000
> CC: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; even.roni@gmail.com; jbradley@me.co=
m;
> 95attendees@ietf.org; fernando@gont.com.ar; paul@nohats.ca;
> carlos@lacnic.net
> Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls
>
>
>
> Let me thank you for the help. I have booked hotel in Ruta Nacional, I
> think falls is in opposite direction. Is there any national park in Iguaz=
u.
> What all areas are good in Iguazu other than falls.
>
>
>
> There are other falls not very popular but pretty unique: Saltos del
> Mocona.
>
>
>
> http://www.lonelyplanet.com/argentina/saltos-del-mocona/introduction
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99ve never been there but I was told they=E2=80=99re very nice. D=
o not expect
> fancy hotels or facilities, this area hasn=E2=80=99t been exploited yet.
>
>
>
> Is there buses from airport to Ruta Nacional.
>
>
>
> Ruta Nacional is not a location but a road. You should provide the number
> of the route and the Km to reference a location. Like =E2=80=9CRuta Nacio=
nal 14 Km
> 1200=E2=80=9D. I would ask the hotel regarding buses from Airport.
>
>
>
> I have taken yellow fever shot. I don=E2=80=99t have Brazilian visa but c=
an=E2=80=99t I
> cover the falls from Argentina side.
>
>
>
> Both sides are nice. On the Brazilian side the views are better and in th=
e
> Argentinian side you walk very close to the falls and you can also naviga=
te.
>
>
>
> Could you please let me know how is Goucho tour to
>
> Learn about Argentina culture. Is there any other places in Buenos Aires
> other than Tigre delta to  cover in one day.
>
>
>
> For a day tour I would go to Colonia in Uruguay.
>
>
>
> Your input is much appreciated. Do the hotels in Buenos Aires accept Amex
> cards.
>
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>
> Christian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sudhin
>
>
>
> *From:* Roni Even [mailto:even.roni@gmail.com ]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 14, 2016 1:40 PM
> *To:* John Bradley 
> *Cc:* nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; 95attendees@ietf.org; Sudhin
> Jacob ; Paul Wouters ; Carlos
> Martinez Martinez Cagnazzo ; Fernando Gont <
> fernando@gont.com.ar>
> *Subject:* Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls
>
>
>
> I do not remember which company I used but it was one of the internationa=
l
> chains. You must ask for a car that can go to Chile and get from the rent=
al
> company the papers needs for border crossing.
>
>
>
> Roni
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John Bradley  wrote:
>
> One word of caution on car rentals.  You need to be clear that the
> insurance also covers driving in Chile.
>
>
>
> With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to notify the insurance
> company that I am taking my car to Argentina to be covered.
>
>
>
> Better to double check and not assume crossing borders is like Europe.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> John B.
>
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even  wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres del paine naional
> park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres
>
> Roni
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM,  wrote=
:
>
>
>
>
>
> On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM,nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:
> >> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet in
> >> Buenos Aires.  The scenery and wildness look incredible.  Hope to get
> >> some good hiking in.
>
> >If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting EL
> >Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalten
> >better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (plan
> >to stay a couple of days there).
>
>
> Thanks, Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area & woul=
d
> like to explore the area.
>
>
>
> Nalini
>
>
>
>
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be aware that the mains power receptacles are aussie,
http://www.batips.com/need-to-know/electricity-voltage/

and it's a bit of a trek for decent coffee

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Inverted Aussie... the poles are reversed.

> On Mar 17, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Randy Bush  wrote:
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> be aware that the mains power receptacles are aussie,
> http://www.batips.com/need-to-know/electricity-voltage/
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> and it's a bit of a trek for decent coffee
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There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite the 
Sheraton Buenos Aires.  My understanding is that if you have two or more 
people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about the same 
as or less than the shuttle bus.

--Bede

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> Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful
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    There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite
    the Sheraton Buenos Aires.  My understanding is that if you have two
    or more people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes
    about the same as or less than the shuttle bus.

    

    --Bede

    

    
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      wrote:

    

    

      
Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive
        and plentiful

        

      

      
 Sent from a mobile device. 
        
Enviado desde un dispositivo movil.

        

        Sent using CloudMagic
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        at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
        wrote:

      

      

        

          
Well first we need from the airport to the
            hotels?

            

            On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:

            >   Hi all,

            >

            > I don't know if this was discussed already.

            > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the
            hotels area?

            >

            > Regards,

            >

            > Behcet

            

            

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> noc gossip has found http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00A17I2KC

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Hi Greg,

just check the booths you'll see when you exit passport control. If you
pre-pay at the booth you can use your credit card.

I believe there is more info at the meeting wiki.

cheers!

-Carlos

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>
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>
> thank you for your help and guidance.
>
>  
>
>                 Regards,
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    Hi Greg,

      

      just check the booths you'll see when you exit passport control.
      If you pre-pay at the booth you can use your credit card.

      

      I believe there is more info at the meeting wiki.

      

      cheers!

      

      -Carlos

    

    
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Hi
            Carlos,

        
couple
            follow-up questions:

        
·        
              would
            you suggest reservation;

        
·        
              payment
            method – credit card, cash (USD or peso)

        
thank
            you for your help and guidance.

        
 

        
               
            Regards,

        
                               
            Greg

        
 

        
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            Subject: Re: [95attendees] Airport transportation

        
 

        
Take any of the official taxis.
          They are inexpensive and plentiful

        

          
Sent from a mobile device. 

          

            
Enviado desde un dispositivo movil.

          

          


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Well first we need from the airport to the hotels?

              

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              >   Hi all,

              >

              > I don't know if this was discussed already.

              > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the
              hotels area?

              >

              > Regards,

              >

              > Behcet

              

              

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The Hilton has a car service, contact:

Carmades Hilton Transportation 

Not the cheapest, but maybe good if you're jet-lagged and
confused... Can be charged to your Hilton hotel bill.

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My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you
can book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450
pesos , which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a
poster when arriving 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid
problems.


Saludos.Luciano.


2016-03-17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. :

> There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite the
> Sheraton Buenos Aires.  My understanding is that if you have two or more
> people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about the same as
> or less than the shuttle bus.
>
> --Bede
>
> On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote:
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> Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful
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> Well first we need from the airport to the hotels?
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> On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
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> > I don't know if this was discussed already.
> > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?
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My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , y=
ou can book on lines in http://www=
.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450 pesos , which is about $ 30 , wil=
l be waiting with your name on a poster when arriving 'll be tired and =
jet lag. It is best to avoid problems.

Saludos.Luciano.

2016-03-17 21:20 GM=
T-03:00 McCall, Bede B. <bede@mitre.org>:

 =20
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    There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite
    the Sheraton Buenos Aires.=C2=A0 My understanding is that if you have t=
wo
    or more people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes
    about the same as or less than the shuttle bus.

    

    --Bede

    

    
On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez
      wrote:

    

    

      
Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive
        and plentiful

        

      

      
 Sent from a mobile device.=C2=A0
        
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Well first we need from the airport to the
            hotels?

            

            On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:

            >=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hi all,

            >

            > I don't know if this was discussed already.

            > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the
            hotels area?

            >

            > Regards,

            >

            > Behcet

            

            

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On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Sudhin Jacob <sjacob=
@juniper.net> wrote:











Hi All,


=C2=A0


Let me thank you for the wonderful he=
lp. Much appreciated.


=C2=A0


Regards,


Sudhin


=C2=A0






From: Juan Janczuk [mailto:jjanczuk@msn.com]


Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:56 AM

To: Christian O'Flaherty <oflaherty@isoc.org>; Sudhin Jacob <sjacob@juniper.net>=


Cc: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; Roni Even <even.roni@gmail.com>; John B=
radley <jbradley@me=
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ttendees@ietf.org; Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>; Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>; carlos@lacnic.net

Subject: RE: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls






=C2=A0




Mi two cents about "Saltos del Mocon=C3=A1":<=
/u>




=C2=A0






In times of high rain (Or, best said, a lot of water in the river), =
the falls remain invisible (I mena, underwater).






=C2=A0






The MIsiones (Province where Mocona is), has this web page:






=C2=A0







=C2=A0






That gives the "status" of the falls (last report: March t=
he 9th), and if the park is open, and if the river is open to sail.<=
u>






=C2=A0






(Sorry, I wasn't able to find an english page of this report)=







=C2=A0






=C2=A0






As a bit of funny information, "mocon=C3=A1" means "W=
ho swallows everything"






=C2=A0






Regards.






Juan.






=C2=A0






=C2=A0






=C2=A0








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CC: n=
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Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls








=C2=A0




Let me thank you for the help. I have booked hotel in=C2=A0Ruta Nacional, I think falls is in opposite direction. Is there any=
 national
 park in Iguazu. What all areas are good in Iguazu other than falls.=











=C2=A0






There are other falls not very popular but pretty unique: Saltos del=
 Mocona.






=C2=A0







=C2=A0






I=E2=80=99ve never been there but I was told they=E2=80=99re very ni=
ce. Do not expect fancy hotels or facilities, this area hasn=E2=80=99t been=
 exploited yet.




=C2=A0








Is there buses from airport to Ruta Nacional.










=C2=A0






Ruta Nacional is not a location but a road. You should provide the n=
umber of the route and the Km to reference a location. Like =E2=80=9CRuta N=
acional 14 Km 1200=E2=80=9D. I would ask the hotel regarding buses
 from Airport.




=C2=A0








I have taken yellow fever shot. I don=E2=80=99t have Brazilian v=
isa but can=E2=80=99t I cover the falls from Argentina side.











=C2=A0






Both sides are nice. On the Brazilian side the views are better and =
in the Argentinian side you walk very close to the falls and you can also n=
avigate.




=C2=A0








Could you please let me know how is Goucho tour to=
=C2=A0






Learn about Argentina culture. Is there any other places in Buen=
os Aires other than Tigre delta to =C2=A0cover in one day.











=C2=A0






For a day tour I would go to Colonia in Uruguay.




=C2=A0








Your input is much appreciated. Do the hotels in Buenos Aires ac=
cept Amex cards.










=C2=A0






Yes.






=C2=A0






Christian




=C2=A0








=C2=A0






=C2=A0






Regards,






Sudhin






=C2=A0






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Sent:=C2=A0Monday, March 14, 2016 1:40 PM

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Subject:=C2=A0Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls






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I do not remember which company I used but it was on=
e of the international chains. You must ask for a car that can go to Chile =
and get from the rental company the papers needs for border crossing.








=C2=A0










Roni












=C2=A0








On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John Bradley <<=
a href=3D"mailto:jbradley@me.com" target=3D"_blank">jbradley@me.com> wrote:










One word of caution on car rentals.=C2=A0 You need t=
o be clear that the insurance also covers driving in Chile.







=C2=A0










With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to no=
tify the insurance company that I am taking my car to Argentina to be cover=
ed.










=C2=A0










Better to double check and not assume crossing borde=
rs is like Europe.










=C2=A0










Regards










John B.














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On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even <even.roni@gmail.com> wrote:








=C2=A0










Hi,








I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres=
 del paine naional park in Chile. Did the hiking to the torres










Roni










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On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM, <nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com> wrote:














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On 03/13/2016 11:44 AM,nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com=C2=A0wrote=
:

>> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El Calafate before we meet i=
n

>> Buenos Aires.=C2=A0 The scenery and wildness look incredible.=C2=
=A0 Hope to get

>> some good hiking in.



>If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since you're visiting E=
L

>Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng, you'll lie EL Chalt=
en

>better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride from El Calafate (p=
lan

>to stay a couple of days there).










Thanks, Fernando.=C2=A0 I am staying a few days in the El Calafate area &am=
p; would like to explore the area.










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Nalini=C2=A0





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Because a waterfall such asIguazu Fallsspans two different countries 
it's natural to ask which side is better. In this case, is theArgentina 
sideorBrazil sidebetter?

So obviously, it's worth seeing the falls from*both sides*. Clearly, 
they're different but beautiful and equally worthwhile.

Other comparisons between the two sides relate to the types ofactivities 
available

http://www.world-of-waterfalls.com/latin-america-iguazu-falls-which-side-is-better.html

El 16/03/16 a las 12:09, Miguel Ignacio Estrada escibió:
> In case you decide to visit the Iguazu Falls I'd like to recommend 
> this hotel I went a couple years ago > 
> http://www.hotellacanteraiguazu.com/
>
> It's located in the middle of the jungle as you will see on it's website.
>
> You will have to take a taxi each day to go to the park where the 
> falls are located, but the hotel experience is incredible.
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:45 AM, Sudhin Jacob  > wrote:
>
>     Hi All,
>
>     Let me thank you for the wonderful help. Much appreciated.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Sudhin
>
>     *From:*Juan Janczuk [mailto:jjanczuk@msn.com
>     ]
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:56 AM
>     *To:* Christian O'Flaherty      >; Sudhin Jacob      >
>     *Cc:* nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com
>     ; Roni Even
>     >; John Bradley
>     >; 95attendees@ietf.org
>     ; Fernando Gont      >; Paul Wouters      >; carlos@lacnic.net 
>     *Subject:* RE: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls
>
>     Mi two cents about "Saltos del Moconá":
>
>     In times of high rain (Or, best said, a lot of water in the
>     river), the falls remain invisible (I mena, underwater).
>
>     The MIsiones (Province where Mocona is), has this web page:
>
>     http://saltosdelmocona.tur.ar/informacion-saltos-del-mocona.php
>
>     That gives the "status" of the falls (last report: March the 9th),
>     and if the park is open, and if the river is open to sail.
>
>     (Sorry, I wasn't able to find an english page of this report)
>
>     As a bit of funny information, "moconá" means "Who swallows
>     everything"
>
>     Regards.
>
>     Juan.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     From: oflaherty@isoc.org 
>     To: sjacob@juniper.net 
>     Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:31:30 +0000
>     CC: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com
>     ; even.roni@gmail.com
>     ; jbradley@me.com
>     ; 95attendees@ietf.org
>     ; fernando@gont.com.ar
>     ; paul@nohats.ca
>     ; carlos@lacnic.net 
>     Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls
>
>         Let me thank you for the help. I have booked hotel inRuta
>         Nacional, I think falls is in opposite direction. Is there any
>         national park in Iguazu. What all areas are good in Iguazu
>         other than falls.
>
>     There are other falls not very popular but pretty unique: Saltos
>     del Mocona.
>
>     http://www.lonelyplanet.com/argentina/saltos-del-mocona/introduction
>
>     I’ve never been there but I was told they’re very nice. Do not
>     expect fancy hotels or facilities, this area hasn’t been exploited
>     yet.
>
>         Is there buses from airport to Ruta Nacional.
>
>     Ruta Nacional is not a location but a road. You should provide the
>     number of the route and the Km to reference a location. Like “Ruta
>     Nacional 14 Km 1200”. I would ask the hotel regarding buses from
>     Airport.
>
>         I have taken yellow fever shot. I don’t have Brazilian visa
>         but can’t I cover the falls from Argentina side.
>
>     Both sides are nice. On the Brazilian side the views are better
>     and in the Argentinian side you walk very close to the falls and
>     you can also navigate.
>
>         Could you please let me know how is Goucho tour to
>
>         Learn about Argentina culture. Is there any other places in
>         Buenos Aires other than Tigre delta to  cover in one day.
>
>     For a day tour I would go to Colonia in Uruguay.
>
>         Your input is much appreciated. Do the hotels in Buenos Aires
>         accept Amex cards.
>
>     Yes.
>
>     Christian
>
>         Regards,
>
>         Sudhin
>
>         *From:*Roni Even [mailto:even.roni@gmail.com]
>         *Sent:*Monday, March 14, 2016 1:40 PM
>         *To:*John Bradley >
>         *Cc:*nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com
>         ;95attendees@ietf.org
>         ; Sudhin Jacob
>         >; Paul Wouters
>         >; Carlos Martinez
>         Martinez Cagnazzo          >; Fernando Gont
>         >
>         *Subject:*Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls
>
>         I do not remember which company I used but it was one of the
>         international chains. You must ask for a car that can go to
>         Chile and get from the rental company the papers needs for
>         border crossing.
>
>         Roni
>
>         On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John Bradley
>         > wrote:
>
>             One word of caution on car rentals.  You need to be clear
>             that the insurance also covers driving in Chile.
>
>             With my personal car insurance in Chile I need to notify
>             the insurance company that I am taking my car to Argentina
>             to be covered.
>
>             Better to double check and not assume crossing borders is
>             like Europe.
>
>             Regards
>
>             John B.
>
>                 On Mar 13, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Roni Even
>                 > wrote:
>
>                 Hi,
>
>                 I rented a car in El-Calafate and went to the torres
>                 del paine naional park in Chile. Did the hiking to the
>                 torres
>
>                 Roni
>
>                 On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:18 PM,
>                                  > wrote:
>
>                     On 03/13/2016 11:44
>                     AM,nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com
>                     wrote:
>                     >> I am planning on going to Ushuaia and El
>                     Calafate before we meet in
>                     >> Buenos Aires. The scenery and wildness look
>                     incredible. Hope to get
>                     >> some good hiking in.
>
>                     >If you lie hiking, I highly recommend that, since
>                     you're visiting EL
>                     >Calafate, you also visit El Chalten. For hikng,
>                     you'll lie EL Chalten
>                     >better, and it's is only a short/cheap bus ride
>                     from El Calafate (plan
>                     >to stay a couple of days there).
>
>
>                     Thanks, Fernando.  I am staying a few days in the
>                     El Calafate area & would like to explore the area.
>
>                     Nalini
>
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    Because
      a waterfall such as Iguazu Falls spans two different
      countries it's natural to ask which side is better. In this case,
      is the Argentina side or Brazil side better?

    

    
    So
      obviously, it's worth seeing the falls from both sides.
      Clearly, they're different but beautiful and equally worthwhile.

    

    
    Other
      comparisons between the two sides relate to the types of activities available

    

http://www.world-of-waterfalls.com/latin-america-iguazu-falls-which-side-is-better.html

    

    
El 16/03/16 a las 12:09, Miguel Ignacio
      Estrada escibió:

    

    

      
In case you decide to visit the Iguazu Falls I'd
        like to recommend this hotel I went a couple years ago > http://www.hotellacanteraiguazu.com/
        


        

        
It's located in the middle of the jungle as you will see on
          it's website.

        

        


        

        
You will have to take a taxi each day to go to the park
          where the falls are located, but the hotel experience is
          incredible.

      

      


        
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:45 AM,
          Sudhin Jacob <sjacob@juniper.net>
          wrote:

          

            

              

                
Hi
                    All,

                
 

                
Let
                    me thank you for the wonderful help. Much
                    appreciated.

                
 

                
Regards,

                
Sudhin

                
 

                

                  

                    
From:
                        Juan Janczuk [mailto:jjanczuk@msn.com]
                        

                        Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 2:56 AM

                        To: Christian O'Flaherty <oflaherty@isoc.org>;
                        Sudhin Jacob <sjacob@juniper.net>

                        Cc: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com;
                        Roni Even <even.roni@gmail.com>;
                        John Bradley <jbradley@me.com>;
                        95attendees@ietf.org;
                        Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>;
                        Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>;
                        carlos@lacnic.net

                          Subject: RE: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu
                          falls

                  

                

                
 

                

                  
Mi
                      two cents about "Saltos del Moconá":

                  

                    

                      

                        
 

                      

                      

                        
In
                            times of high rain (Or, best said, a lot of
                            water in the river), the falls remain
                            invisible (I mena, underwater).

                      

                      

                        
 

                      

                      

                        
The
                            MIsiones (Province where Mocona is), has
                            this web page:

                      

                      

                        
 

                      

                      
                      

                        
 

                      

                      

                        
That
                            gives the "status" of the falls (last
                            report: March the 9th), and if the park is
                            open, and if the river is open to sail.

                      

                      

                        
 

                      

                      

                        
(Sorry,
                            I wasn't able to find an english page of
                            this report)

                      

                      

                        
 

                      

                      

                        
 

                      

                      

                        
As
                            a bit of funny information, "moconá" means
                            "Who swallows everything"

                      

                      

                        
 

                      

                      

                        
Regards.

                      

                      

                        
Juan.

                      

                      

                        
 

                      

                      

                        
 

                      

                      

                        
 

                      

                      

                        

                          
 

                          

                            

                                

                              

                            
From:
                                oflaherty@isoc.org

                                To: sjacob@juniper.net

                                Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 20:31:30 +0000

                                CC: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com;
                                even.roni@gmail.com;
                                
                                  jbradley@me.com; 95attendees@ietf.org;
                                fernando@gont.com.ar;
                                
                                  paul@nohats.ca; carlos@lacnic.net

                                Subject: Re: [95attendees] REG: Iguazu
                                falls

                            

                              

                                

                                  
 

                                  

                                    
Let
                                        me thank you for the help. I
                                        have booked hotel in Ruta
                                          Nacional, I think falls is in
                                          opposite direction. Is there
                                          any national park in Iguazu.
                                          What all areas are good in
                                          Iguazu other than falls.

                                  

                                

                              

                              

                                
 

                              

                              

                                
There
                                    are other falls not very popular but
                                    pretty unique: Saltos del Mocona.

                              

                              

                                
 

                              

                              
                              

                                
 

                              

                              

                                
I’ve
                                    never been there but I was told
                                    they’re very nice. Do not expect
                                    fancy hotels or facilities, this
                                    area hasn’t been exploited yet.

                              

                              
 

                              

                                

                                  

                                    
Is
                                          there buses from airport to
                                          Ruta Nacional.

                                  

                                

                              

                              

                                
 

                              

                              

                                
Ruta
                                    Nacional is not a location but a
                                    road. You should provide the number
                                    of the route and the Km to reference
                                    a location. Like “Ruta Nacional 14
                                    Km 1200”. I would ask the hotel
                                    regarding buses from Airport.

                              

                              
 

                              

                                

                                  

                                    
I
                                          have taken yellow fever shot.
                                          I don’t have Brazilian visa
                                          but can’t I cover the falls
                                          from Argentina side.
                                        

                                  

                                

                              

                              

                                
 

                              

                              

                                
Both
                                    sides are nice. On the Brazilian
                                    side the views are better and in the
                                    Argentinian side you walk very close
                                    to the falls and you can also
                                    navigate.

                              

                              
 

                              

                                

                                  

                                    
Could
                                          you please let me know how is
                                          Goucho tour to 

                                  

                                  

                                    
Learn
                                          about Argentina culture. Is
                                          there any other places in
                                          Buenos Aires other than Tigre
                                          delta to  cover in one day.
                                        

                                  

                                

                              

                              

                                
 

                              

                              

                                
For
                                    a day tour I would go to Colonia in
                                    Uruguay.

                              

                              
 

                              

                                

                                  

                                    
Your
                                          input is much appreciated. Do
                                          the hotels in Buenos Aires
                                          accept Amex cards.

                                  

                                

                              

                              

                                
 

                              

                              

                                
Yes.

                              

                              

                                
 

                              

                              

                                
Christian

                              

                              
 

                              

                                

                                  

                                    
 

                                  

                                  

                                    
 

                                  

                                  

                                    
Regards,

                                  

                                  

                                    
Sudhin

                                  

                                  

                                    
 

                                  

                                  

                                    
From: Roni
                                        Even [mailto:even.roni@gmail.com] 

                                        Sent: Monday,
                                        March 14, 2016 1:40 PM

                                        To: John
                                        Bradley <jbradley@me.com>

                                        Cc: nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com; 95attendees@ietf.org;
                                        Sudhin Jacob <sjacob@juniper.net>;
                                        Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>;
                                        Carlos Martinez Martinez
                                        Cagnazzo <carlos@lacnic.net>;

                                        Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar>

                                        Subject: Re:
                                        [95attendees] REG: Iguazu falls

                                  

                                  

                                    
 

                                  

                                  

                                    

                                      
I do not
                                        remember which company I used
                                        but it was one of the
                                        international chains. You must
                                        ask for a car that can go to
                                        Chile and get from the rental
                                        company the papers needs for
                                        border crossing.

                                    

                                    

                                      

                                        
 

                                      

                                    

                                    

                                      

                                        
Roni

                                      

                                    

                                  

                                  

                                    

                                      
 

                                    

                                    

                                      

                                        
On Mon, Mar
                                          14, 2016 at 12:24 AM, John
                                          Bradley <jbradley@me.com>
                                          wrote:

                                      

                                      

                                        

                                          

                                            
One
                                              word of caution on car
                                              rentals.  You need to be
                                              clear that the insurance
                                              also covers driving in
                                              Chile.

                                          

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                            

                                          

                                          

                                            

                                              
With
                                                my personal car
                                                insurance in Chile I
                                                need to notify the
                                                insurance company that I
                                                am taking my car to
                                                Argentina to be covered.

                                            

                                          

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                            

                                          

                                          

                                            

                                              
Better
                                                to double check and not
                                                assume crossing borders
                                                is like Europe.

                                            

                                          

                                          

                                            

                                              
 

                                            

                                          

                                          

                                            

                                              
Regards

                                            

                                          

                                          

                                            

                                              
John
                                                B.

                                            

                                          

                                          

                                            

                                              

                                                

                                                  
 

                                                

                                              

                                              

                                                

                                                  

                                                    

                                                      

                                                        
On
                                                          Mar 13, 2016,
                                                          at 7:07 PM,
                                                          Roni Even <even.roni@gmail.com> wrote:

                                                      

                                                    

                                                    

                                                      
 

                                                    

                                                    

                                                      

                                                        

                                                          
Hi,

                                                        

                                                        

                                                          

                                                          
I
                                                          rented a car
                                                          in El-Calafate
                                                          and went to
                                                          the torres del
                                                          paine naional
                                                          park in Chile.
                                                          Did the hiking
                                                          to the torres

                                                          

                                                        

                                                        

                                                          

                                                          
Roni

                                                          

                                                        

                                                        

                                                          

                                                          
 

                                                          

                                                        

                                                      

                                                      

                                                        

                                                          
 

                                                        

                                                        

                                                          

                                                          
On
                                                          Sun, Mar 13,
                                                          2016 at 6:18
                                                          PM, <nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com>
                                                          wrote:

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                           

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
On
                                                          03/13/2016
                                                          11:44 AM,nalini.elkins@insidethestack.com wrote:

                                                          >> I am
                                                          planning on
                                                          going to
                                                          Ushuaia and El
                                                          Calafate
                                                          before we meet
                                                          in

                                                          >>
                                                          Buenos Aires. 
                                                          The scenery
                                                          and wildness
                                                          look
                                                          incredible. 
                                                          Hope to get

                                                          >> some
                                                          good hiking
                                                          in.

                                                          

                                                          >If you lie
                                                          hiking, I
                                                          highly
                                                          recommend
                                                          that, since
                                                          you're
                                                          visiting EL

                                                          >Calafate,
                                                          you also visit
                                                          El Chalten.
                                                          For hikng,
                                                          you'll lie EL
                                                          Chalten

                                                          >better,
                                                          and it's is
                                                          only a
                                                          short/cheap
                                                          bus ride from
                                                          El Calafate
                                                          (plan

                                                          >to stay a
                                                          couple of days
                                                          there).

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          


                                                          Thanks,
                                                          Fernando.  I
                                                          am staying a
                                                          few days in
                                                          the El
                                                          Calafate area
                                                          & would
                                                          like to
                                                          explore the
                                                          area.

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          
 

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          Nalini 

                                                          

                                                          

                                                           

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          

                                                          


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On 03/16/2016 01:32 PM, Nicolás wrote:
> Because a waterfall such as Iguazu Falls spans two different countries
> it's natural to ask which side is better. In this case, is the Argentina
> side or Brazil side better?
> 
> So obviously, it's worth seeing the falls from*both sides*. Clearly,
> they're different but beautiful and equally worthwhile.
> 
> Other comparisons between the two sides relate to the types
> of activities

Rumor has it that on the argentinian side you an enjoy better football
after the visit to the Falls.

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On 03/14/2016 01:31 PM, Christian O'Flaherty wrote:
>>
>> I heard that you can also take a ferry to Colonia.
>> Which one (ferry or bus) is recommended?
> 
> Ferry definitively. (one hour ferry vs. 7+ hours bus). There’s no bridge in the Rio de La Plata.
> 
>> Any early reservation required?
> 
> The Ferry is pretty big so there’s usually no need to reserve in advance.

Prices vary based on availability (ala flights), so if you're oing to
take one, better book earlier than later.


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 Hi all,

I don't know if this was discussed already.
Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?

Regards,

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Well first we need from the airport to the hotels?

On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>   Hi all,
>
> I don't know if this was discussed already.
> Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?
>
> Regards,
>
> Behcet



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 > I don't know if this was discussed already.
 > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?
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>   Hi all,

>

> I don't know if this was discussed already.

> Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?

>

> Regards,

>

> Behcet





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> Regards,

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Hi Carlos,
couple follow-up questions:

=B7         would you suggest reservation;

=B7         payment method - credit card, cash (USD or peso)
thank you for your help and guidance.

                Regards,
                                Greg

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Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful
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Well first we need from the airport to the hotels?

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>

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Hi=2C Greg & all.
If you want=2C you can get a reservation at:
http://www.tiendaleon.com/destacadocentral/home/
(Sorry=2C but=2C sadly=2C I didn't fond an english page in this site).

Regards.Juan.

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Thanks for the advice, Luciano!   Do taxi drivers in Buenos Aires expect a
tip on top of the fare?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin <
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> My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you can=
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> 2016-03-17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. :
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>> people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about the same=
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>> --Bede
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>> On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote:
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>> On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
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>> >
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>> > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?
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Thanks for the advice, Luciano! =C2=A0 Do taxi drivers in =
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9;ll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid problems.

Sa=
ludos.Luciano.

2016-03-17 21:20 GM=
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   =20
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    There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite
    the Sheraton Buenos Aires.=C2=A0 My understanding is that if you have t=
wo
    or more people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes
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    --Bede

    

    
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            >

            > I don't know if this was discussed already.

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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:22:14 -0000 --089e015386983a79af052e52a2ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In Argentina it is not mandatory , but will always be well received .) 2016-03-18 10:15 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon : > Thanks for the advice, Luciano! Do taxi drivers in Buenos Aires expect = a > tip on top of the fare? > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin < > luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you ca= n book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450 pesos , = which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a poster when arriv= ing 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid problems. >> >> >> Saludos.Luciano. >> >> >> 2016-03-17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. : >> >>> There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite the >>> Sheraton Buenos Aires. My understanding is that if you have two or mor= e >>> people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about the sam= e as >>> or less than the shuttle bus. >>> >>> --Bede >>> >>> On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote: >>> >>> Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful >>> >>> Sent from a mobile device. >>> Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. >>> >>> Sent using CloudMagic Email >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz < >>> rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote: >>> >>> Well first we need from the airport to the hotels? >>> >>> On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I don't know if this was discussed already. >>> > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area? >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > >>> > Behcet >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 95attendees mailing list >>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 95attendees mailing list95attendees@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailma= n/listinfo/95attendees >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 95attendees mailing list >>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >> >> > --089e015386983a79af052e52a2ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
In Argentina it is not mandatory , but will always be well received=
 .)

2016-03-18 10:15 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>:=
Thanks for the advice, = Luciano! =C2=A0 Do taxi drivers in Buenos Aires expect a tip on top of the = fare?

On Fri= , Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin <luciano.minuchin@g= mail.com> wrote:

2016-03-17 = 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. <bede@mitre.org>:
=20 =20 =20
There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite the Sheraton Buenos Aires.=C2=A0 My understanding is that if you have t= wo or more people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about the same as or less than the shuttle bus.

--Bede

On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote:

Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful

Sent from a mobile device.=C2=A0
Enviado desde un dispositivo movil.

Sent using CloudMagic Email
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:

Well first we need from the airport to the hotels?

On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hi all,
>
> I don't know if this was discussed already.
> Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?
>
> Regards,
>
> Behcet


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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:25:27 -0000 --001a113ec114d8b3bb052e52adea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a customary percentage? On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Luciano Minuchin < luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote: > In Argentina it is not mandatory , but will always be well received .) > > > 2016-03-18 10:15 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon : > >> Thanks for the advice, Luciano! Do taxi drivers in Buenos Aires expect >> a tip on top of the fare? >> >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin < >> luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you c= an book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450 pesos ,= which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a poster when arri= ving 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid problems. >>> >>> >>> Saludos.Luciano. >>> >>> >>> 2016-03-17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. : >>> >>>> There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite th= e >>>> Sheraton Buenos Aires. My understanding is that if you have two or mo= re >>>> people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about the sa= me as >>>> or less than the shuttle bus. >>>> >>>> --Bede >>>> >>>> On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote: >>>> >>>> Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful >>>> >>>> Sent from a mobile device. >>>> Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. >>>> >>>> Sent using CloudMagic Email >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz < >>>> rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well first we need from the airport to the hotels? >>>> >>>> On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: >>>> > Hi all, >>>> > >>>> > I don't know if this was discussed already. >>>> > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area? >>>> > >>>> > Regards, >>>> > >>>> > Behcet >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 95attendees mailing list >>>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 95attendees mailing list95attendees@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailm= an/listinfo/95attendees >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 95attendees mailing list >>>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 95attendees mailing list >>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>> >>> >> > --001a113ec114d8b3bb052e52adea Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there a customary percentage?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Luci= ano Minuchin <luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote:
In Argentina it is not mandatory , but will always be well receiv=
ed .)

2016-03-18 10:15 GMT-03:00 = Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>:
Thanks for the advice, Luciano! =C2=A0 Do taxi drivers= in Buenos Aires expect a tip on top of the fare?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Luci= ano Minuchin <luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote:
My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport =
, you can book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450 pesos , whi=
ch is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a poster when arriving=
 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid problems.

Saludos.Luciano.
<= br>
2016-03-17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. <bed= e@mitre.org>:
=20 =20 =20
There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite the Sheraton Buenos Aires.=C2=A0 My understanding is that if you have t= wo or more people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about the same as or less than the shuttle bus.

--Bede

On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote:

Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful

Sent from a mobile device.=C2=A0
Enviado desde un dispositivo movil.

Sent using CloudMagic Email
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:

Well first we need from the airport to the hotels?

On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hi all,
>
> I don't know if this was discussed already.
> Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?
>
> Regards,
>
> Behcet


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Do taxi drivers in Buenos Aires expec= t >>> a tip on top of the fare? >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin < >>> luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you = can book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450 pesos = , which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a poster when arr= iving 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid problems. >>>> >>>> >>>> Saludos.Luciano. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2016-03-17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. : >>>> >>>>> There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite >>>>> the Sheraton Buenos Aires. My understanding is that if you have two = or >>>>> more people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about = the >>>>> same as or less than the shuttle bus. >>>>> >>>>> --Bede >>>>> >>>>> On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful >>>>> >>>>> Sent from a mobile device. >>>>> Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. >>>>> >>>>> Sent using CloudMagic Email >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz < >>>>> rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well first we need from the airport to the hotels? >>>>> >>>>> On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: >>>>> > Hi all, >>>>> > >>>>> > I don't know if this was discussed already. >>>>> > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area? >>>>> > >>>>> > Regards, >>>>> > >>>>> > Behcet >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 95attendees mailing list >>>>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 95attendees mailing list95attendees@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mail= man/listinfo/95attendees >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 95attendees mailing list >>>>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> 95attendees mailing list >>>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>>> >>>> >>> >> > --001a113d2a9658d51d052e52beeb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No for the Taxis.

Saludos.
Lu= ciano.


2016-03-18 10:24 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon <= ;mellon@fugue.com= >:
Is there a = customary percentage?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Luciano Minuchin <luci= ano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote:
In Argentina it is=
 not mandatory , but will always be well received .)

2016-03-18 = 10:15 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>:
Thanks for the advice, Luciano! =C2=A0 = Do taxi drivers in Buenos Aires expect a tip on top of the fare?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 a= t 8:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin <luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote:
My recommendation is to take the official taxi fr=
om the airport , you can book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 4=
50 pesos , which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a poster=
 when arriving 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid problems.<=
/span>

Saludos.Luciano.

2016-03-17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCa= ll, Bede B. <bede@mitre.org>:
There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite the Sheraton Buenos Aires.=C2=A0 My understanding is that if you have t= wo or more people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about the same as or less than the shuttle bus.

--Bede

On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote:

Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful

Sent from a mobile device.=C2=A0
Enviado desde un dispositivo movil.

Sent using CloudMagic Email
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:

Well first we need from the airport to the hotels?

On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hi all,
>
> I don't know if this was discussed already.
> Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?
>
> Regards,
>
> Behcet


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--001a113d2a9658d51d052e52beeb-- From nobody Fri Mar 18 06:36:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FE612D81F for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 06:36:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id odNDc7i50mI9 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 06:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fgont.go6lab.si (fgont.go6lab.si [IPv6:2001:67c:27e4::14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B38BA12D807 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 06:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.20.15.144] (port-213-160-6-163.static.qsc.de [213.160.6.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by fgont.go6lab.si (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD774801C6; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 14:36:29 +0100 (CET) To: Ted Lemon , Luciano Minuchin References: <56EB3216.3040600@labs.htt-consult.com> <1458254490607-4cff9be2-0f04d5d0-88c32e59@lacnic.net> <56EB49B4.10302@mitre.org> From: Fernando Gont Message-ID: <56EC0425.8060403@gont.com.ar> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 10:35:33 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org, bede@mitre.org Subject: Re: [95attendees] Airport transportation X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:36:40 -0000 No, they don't. On 03/18/2016 10:15 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: > Thanks for the advice, Luciano! Do taxi drivers in Buenos Aires expect > a tip on top of the fare? > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin > > wrote: > > My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , > you can book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ > 450 pesos , which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on > a poster when arriving 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid > problems. > > > Saludos.Luciano. > > > 2016-03-17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. >: > > There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station > opposite the Sheraton Buenos Aires. My understanding is that if > you have two or more people riding in the cab, the per-person > cab fare becomes about the same as or less than the shuttle bus. > > --Bede > > On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote: >> >> Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful >> >> Sent from a mobile device. >> Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. >> >> Sent using CloudMagic Email >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz >> > >> wrote: >> >> Well first we need from the airport to the hotels? >> >> On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I don't know if this was discussed already. >> > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels >> area? >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Behcet >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > -- Fernando Gont e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1 From nobody Fri Mar 18 09:11:23 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA0A12D52C for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:11:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VJsN13Z0WZFL for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (hermes.lacnic.net.uy [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:4000::8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1376712D8BB for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:11:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.lacnic.net.uy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889C716B415C4; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:04:25 -0300 (UYT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lacnic.net.uy Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy ([127.0.0.1]) by hermes.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iP7W-w7uCalk; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:04:21 -0300 (UYT) Received: from [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:7000:785f:e2cd:d784:c045] (unknown [IPv6:2001:13c7:7001:7000:785f:e2cd:d784:c045]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2E41116B415DE; Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:04:21 -0300 (UYT) To: Luciano Minuchin , Ted Lemon References: <56EB3216.3040600@labs.htt-consult.com> <1458254490607-4cff9be2-0f04d5d0-88c32e59@lacnic.net> <56EB49B4.10302@mitre.org> From: "Carlos M. Martinez" Message-ID: <56EC2894.9050100@lacnic.net> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 13:11:00 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050203000502030005070408" Archived-At: Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org, bede@mitre.org Subject: Re: [95attendees] Airport transportation X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:11:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050203000502030005070408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talking about myself only, when I land in EZE I use the 'official' taxis (the booths I mentioned in an earlier email) but I don't tip the drivers. I usually tip the 'normal', yellow taxis, but not on a fixed %, I round the amount to the next multiple of 10 or 20 pesos (depending on the trip fare). But, again, this is just me :-) -Carlos On 3/18/16 10:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin wrote: > No for the Taxis. > > Saludos. > Luciano. > > > 2016-03-18 10:24 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon >: > > Is there a customary percentage? > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Luciano Minuchin > > > wrote: > > In Argentina it is not mandatory , but will always be well > received .) > > > 2016-03-18 10:15 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon >: > > Thanks for the advice, Luciano! Do taxi drivers in > Buenos Aires expect a tip on top of the fare? > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin > > wrote: > > My recommendation is to take the official taxi from > the airport , you can book on lines in > http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450 pesos > , which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name > on a poster when arriving 'll be tired and jet lag. It > is best to avoid problems. > > Saludos.Luciano. > > > 2016-03-17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. > >: > > There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a > station opposite the Sheraton Buenos Aires. My > understanding is that if you have two or more > people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare > becomes about the same as or less than the shuttle > bus. > > --Bede > > On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote: >> >> Take any of the official taxis. They are >> inexpensive and plentiful >> >> Sent from a mobile device. >> Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. >> >> Sent using CloudMagic Email >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz >> > > wrote: >> >> Well first we need from the airport to the >> hotels? >> >> On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I don't know if this was discussed already. >> > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE >> from the hotels area? >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Behcet >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees --------------050203000502030005070408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talking about myself only, when I land in EZE I use the 'official' taxis (the booths I mentioned in an earlier email) but I don't tip the drivers.

I usually tip the 'normal', yellow taxis, but not on a fixed %, I round the amount to the next multiple of 10 or 20 pesos (depending on the trip fare).

But, again, this is just me :-)

-Carlos

On 3/18/16 10:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin wrote:
No for the Taxis.

Saludos.
Luciano.


2016-03-18 10:24 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>:
Is there a customary percentage?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Luciano Minuchin <luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote:
In Argentina it is not mandatory , but will always be well received .)

2016-03-18 10:15 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>:
Thanks for the advice, Luciano!   Do taxi drivers in Buenos Aires expect a tip on top of the fare?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin <luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote:
My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you can book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450 pesos , which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a poster when arriving 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid problems.


Saludos.Luciano.

2016-03-17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. <bede@mitre.org>:
There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite the Sheraton Buenos Aires.  My understanding is that if you have two or more people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about the same as or less than the shuttle bus.

--Bede

On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote:

Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful

Sent from a mobile device. 
Enviado desde un dispositivo movil.

Sent using CloudMagic Email
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:

Well first we need from the airport to the hotels?

On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>   Hi all,
>
> I don't know if this was discussed already.
> Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?
>
> Regards,
>
> Behcet


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Martinez" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011769d7ab1468052e551a05 Archived-At: Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org, Ted Lemon , bede@mitre.org, Luciano Minuchin Subject: Re: [95attendees] Airport transportation X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:19:02 -0000 --089e011769d7ab1468052e551a05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Taxi drivers don't expect any kind of tips. It is not usual here in Argentina. As Carlos said, you could round up in favor of the taxi driver, but no more than that. Take into account that they may charge you for each bag you carry, and it should not be more than $10 pesos (less than 1 USD) each. I personally don't like taxis and always choose private transfers or "remis" like the ones you can hire in Manuel Tienda Leon booth (UDS 30). On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: > Talking about myself only, when I land in EZE I use the 'official' taxis > (the booths I mentioned in an earlier email) but I don't tip the drivers. > > I usually tip the 'normal', yellow taxis, but not on a fixed %, I round > the amount to the next multiple of 10 or 20 pesos (depending on the trip > fare). > > But, again, this is just me :-) > > -Carlos > > On 3/18/16 10:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin wrote: > > No for the Taxis. > > Saludos. > Luciano. > > > 2016-03-18 10:24 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon : > >> Is there a customary percentage? >> >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Luciano Minuchin < >> luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> In Argentina it is not mandatory , but will always be well received .) >>> >>> >>> 2016-03-18 10:15 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon < >>> mellon@fugue.com>: >>> >>>> Thanks for the advice, Luciano! Do taxi drivers in Buenos Aires >>>> expect a tip on top of the fare? >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin < >>>> luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you= can book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450 pesos= , which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a poster when ar= riving 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid problems. >>>>> >>>>> Saludos.Luciano. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2016-03-17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. < >>>>> bede@mitre.org>: >>>>> >>>>>> There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite >>>>>> the Sheraton Buenos Aires. My understanding is that if you have two= or >>>>>> more people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about= the >>>>>> same as or less than the shuttle bus. >>>>>> >>>>>> --Bede >>>>>> >>>>>> On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from a mobile device. >>>>>> Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent using CloudMagic Email >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz < >>>>>> rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well first we need from the airport to the hotels? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: >>>>>> > Hi all, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I don't know if this was discussed already. >>>>>> > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Regards, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Behcet >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 95attendees mailing list >>>>>> <95attendees@ietf.org>95attendees@ietf.org >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 95attendees mailing list95attendees@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mai= lman/listinfo/95attendees >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> 95attendees mailing list >>>>>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 95attendees mailing list >>>>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list95attendees@ietf.orghttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/= listinfo/95attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > --=20 Nacho Estrada | @acmuzic --089e011769d7ab1468052e551a05 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Taxi drivers don't expect any kind of tips. It is not = usual here in Argentina.

As Carlos said, you could round= up in favor of the taxi driver, but no more than that.

Take into account that they may charge you for each bag you carry, an= d it should not be more than $10 pesos (less than 1 USD) each.
I personally don't like taxis and always choose private tr= ansfers or "remis" like the ones you can hire in Manuel Tienda Le= on booth (UDS 30).



<= br>

On= Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Carlos M. Martinez <carlos@lacnic.net&g= t; wrote:
=20 =20 =20
Talking about myself only, when I land in EZE I use the 'official' taxis (the booths I mentioned in an earlier email)= but I don't tip the drivers.

I usually tip the 'normal', yellow taxis, but not on a fixed = %, I round the amount to the next multiple of 10 or 20 pesos (depending on the trip fare).

But, again, this is just me :-)

-Carlos

On 3/18/16 10:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin wrote:
No for the Taxis.

Saludos.
Luciano.


2016-03-18 10:24 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon <me= llon@fugue.com>:
Is there a customary percentage?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:22 AM, Luciano Minuchin <luciano.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote:
In Argentina it is =
not mandatory , but will always be well received .)

2016-03-18 10:15 GMT-03:00 Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>:
Thanks for the advice, Luciano! =C2=A0 Do taxi drivers in Buenos Air= es expect a tip on top of the fare?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Luciano Minuchin <lucia= no.minuchin@gmail.com> wrote:
My=
 recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you can boo=
k on lines in ht=
tp://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450 pesos , which is about $ =
30 , will be waiting with your name on a poster when arriving 'll be ti=
red and jet lag. It is best to avoid problems.


Saludos.Lucian=
o.

2016-03-= 17 21:20 GMT-03:00 McCall, Bede B. <bede@mitre.org>:
There is also a shuttle bus that travels to/from a station opposite the Sheraton Buenos Aires.=C2=A0 My understanding is that if you have two or more people riding in the cab, the per-person cab fare becomes about the same as or less than the shuttle bus.

--Bede

On 3/17/2016 6:41 PM, Carlos Martinez wrote:

Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful

Sent from a mobile device.=C2=A0
Enviado desde un dispositivo movil.
Sent using CloudMagic Email
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:

Well first we need from the airport to the hotels?

On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hi a= ll,
>
> I don't know if this was discussed already. > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?
>
> Regards,
>
> Behcet


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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 21:22:48 -0000 > o power stips in meeting rooms will be universal i was likely incorrect in this. bring converters from NA/AU/AR to your favorite flavor if you will need them. randy From nobody Sun Mar 20 19:58:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E58A12D526 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 19:58:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5dmp1wL62qpo for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 19:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [50.253.254.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E18012D545 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 19:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070B7621E8 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 22:58:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kwIpTNVNR+TN for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 22:58:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx120e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4722E621BD for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 22:58:22 -0400 (EDT) To: "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <56EF634B.8050505@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 22:58:19 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080702030404000501050405" Archived-At: Subject: [95attendees] Need help with the Reprocity Fee payment X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 02:58:30 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080702030404000501050405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I forgot to take care of this until now. I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to enter my credit card information is in spanish. And I basically flunked High School Spanish back in the '60s... Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields mean? -- Standard Robert Moskowitz Owner HTT Consulting C:248-219-2059 F:248-968-2824 E:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit --------------080702030404000501050405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I forgot to take care of this until now.

I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to enter my credit card information is in spanish.  And I basically flunked High School Spanish back in the '60s...

Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields mean? 

--
Standard Robert Moskowitz
Owner
HTT Consulting
C:      248-219-2059
F:      248-968-2824
E:      rgm@labs.htt-consult.com

There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit
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i powered through it w/o too much trouble

1) try cut/paste into translate.= google.com
2) post screenshot here and someone will help you = out.

IIRC, it asked for last name, then firstname = (top row), then standard card info.



On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Mos= kowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
I forgot to take care of this until now.

I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to enter my credit card information is in spanish.=C2=A0 And I basically flunked Hi= gh School Spanish back in the '60s...

Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields mean?=C2=A0

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On Mar 20, 2016, a= t 19:58, Robert Moskowitz <rg= m@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:

=20 =20 =20 I forgot to take care of this until now.

I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to enter my credit card information is in spanish.  And I basically flunked Hig= h School Spanish back in the '60s...

Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields mean? 

--
Standard Robert Moskowitz
Owner
HTT Consulting
C:      248-219-2059
F:   &nbs= p;  248-968-2824
E:   &nbs= p;  rgm@labs.htt-co= nsult.com

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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 03:07:11 -0000 --089e01495238555545052e86643b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'm online now, I can help if you need translation or assistance for the Reciprocity Fee. Regards, Diego On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:04 AM, mca wrote: > i powered through it w/o too much trouble > > 1) try cut/paste into translate.google.com > 2) post screenshot here and someone will help you out. > > IIRC, it asked for last name, then firstname (top row), then standard card > info. > > > > mca > Mike Amundsen > +1.859.757.1449 > skype:mca.amundsen > http://amundsen.com/blog/ > http://twitter.com/mamund > https://github.com/mamund > http://linkedin.com/in/mamund > > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz < > rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote: > >> I forgot to take care of this until now. >> >> I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to enter my credit >> card information is in spanish. And I basically flunked High School >> Spanish back in the '60s... >> >> Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields mean? >> >> -- >> Robert Moskowitz >> Owner >> HTT Consulting >> C: 248-219-2059 >> F: 248-968-2824 >> E: rgm@labs.htt-consult.com >> >> There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who >> gets the credit >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > --089e01495238555545052e86643b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm online now, I can help if you<= br>
need translation or assistance for the
Reciprocity Fee.<= br>
Regards,

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On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:04 A= M, mca <mca@amundsen.com> wrote:
i powered through it w/o too much trouble

1) try cut/paste into translate.google.com
2) post screenshot here an= d someone will help you out.

IIRC, it asked for la= st name, then firstname (top row), then standard card info.

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On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 = at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
I forgot to take care of this until now.

I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to enter my credit card information is in spanish.=C2=A0 And I basically flunked Hi= gh School Spanish back in the '60s...

Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields mean?=C2=A0

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=20 =20 Robert Moskowitz
Owner
HTT Consulting
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F:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0248-968-2824
E:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0rgm@labs.htt-consult.com

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--089e01495238555545052e86643b-- From nobody Sun Mar 20 20:53:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237E412D518 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 20:53:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AHZEZM-UpACo for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 20:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [50.253.254.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 347E712D113 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 20:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFDA6220D; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:53:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 3yE+t9kAx7GE; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx120e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA36F621F9; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:53:12 -0400 (EDT) To: Diego Dujovne , mca References: <56EF634B.8050505@labs.htt-consult.com> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <56EF7024.8070504@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 23:53:08 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090308070602050901040705" Archived-At: Cc: "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [95attendees] Need help with the Reprocity Fee payment X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 03:53:26 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090308070602050901040705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It was the third field: Código de Seguridad that I stumbled on. I realized it HAD to be the security code on the card. And when I LOOKED at the spanish, it kind of sounds like code of security. So all done. Got my form and ready to fly. Now to post my drafts I have been busy writing... On 03/20/2016 11:07 PM, Diego Dujovne wrote: > I'm online now, I can help if you > need translation or assistance for the > Reciprocity Fee. > Regards, > > Diego > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:04 AM, mca > wrote: > > i powered through it w/o too much trouble > > 1) try cut/paste into translate.google.com > > 2) post screenshot here and someone will help you out. > > IIRC, it asked for last name, then firstname (top row), then > standard card info. > > > > mca > Mike Amundsen > +1.859.757.1449 > skype:mca.amundsen > http://amundsen.com/blog/ > http://twitter.com/mamund > https://github.com/mamund > http://linkedin.com/in/mamund > > > On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz > > wrote: > > I forgot to take care of this until now. > > I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to > enter my credit card information is in spanish. And I > basically flunked High School Spanish back in the '60s... > > Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the > fields mean? > > -- > Robert Moskowitz > Owner > HTT Consulting > C: 248-219-2059 > F: 248-968-2824 > E: rgm@labs.htt-consult.com > > There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't > matter who gets the credit > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees > > > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees -- Standard Robert Moskowitz Owner HTT Consulting C:248-219-2059 F:248-968-2824 E:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit --------------090308070602050901040705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It was the third field:

Código de Seguridad

that I stumbled on.  I realized it HAD to be the security code on the card.  And when I LOOKED at the spanish, it kind of sounds like code of security.

So all done.  Got my form and ready to fly.  Now to post my drafts I have been busy writing...

On 03/20/2016 11:07 PM, Diego Dujovne wrote:
I'm online now, I can help if you
need translation or assistance for the
Reciprocity Fee.
Regards,

                            Diego

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:04 AM, mca <mca@amundsen.com> wrote:
i powered through it w/o too much trouble

1) try cut/paste into translate.google.com
2) post screenshot here and someone will help you out.

IIRC, it asked for last name, then firstname (top row), then standard card info.



On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
I forgot to take care of this until now.

I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to enter my credit card information is in spanish.  And I basically flunked High School Spanish back in the '60s...

Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields mean? 

--
Robert Moskowitz
Owner
HTT Consulting
C:      248-219-2059
F:      248-968-2824
E:      rgm@labs.htt-consult.com

There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit

_______________________________________________
95attendees mailing list
95attendees@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees



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Standard Robert Moskowitz
Owner
HTT Consulting
C:      248-219-2059
F:      248-968-2824
E:      rgm@labs.htt-consult.com

There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit
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Standard Robert Moskowitz
Owner
HTT Consulting
C:      248-219-2059
F:      248-968-2824
E:      rgm@labs.htt-consult.com

There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit
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I have the same problem.
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:11 AM, Robert Moskowi= tz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
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Is it down for maint or just swamped?=C2=A0 I have been busy writing an= d now need to submit, but I am getting gateway timeout messages.

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--001a1143e542364fc7052e8767b1-- From nobody Sun Mar 20 21:22:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C7112D5C5 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 21:22:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9FJ9ahKJtLEE for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 21:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [50.253.254.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57E2212D622 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 20 Mar 2016 21:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FED621F7; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:22:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id CCPHK3ercbvr; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:22:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx120e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3AF1962199; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:22:01 -0400 (EDT) To: "Cristian F. Perez Monte" References: <56EF746B.4050900@labs.htt-consult.com> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <56EF76E6.7090801@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 00:21:58 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030909070303080702040201" Archived-At: Cc: "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [95attendees] Draft submission page X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 04:22:08 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030909070303080702040201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the xml2rfc tool is also not responding. I had that last night at this time. May well be maint. On 03/21/2016 12:19 AM, Cristian F. Perez Monte wrote: > I have the same problem. > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:11 AM, Robert Moskowitz > > wrote: > > Is it down for maint or just swamped? I have been busy writing > and now need to submit, but I am getting gateway timeout messages. > --------------030909070303080702040201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit the xml2rfc tool is also not responding.  I had that last night at this time.  May well be maint.

On 03/21/2016 12:19 AM, Cristian F. Perez Monte wrote:
I have the same problem.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:11 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
Is it down for maint or just swamped?  I have been busy writing and now need to submit, but I am getting gateway timeout messages.


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Perez Monte" Subject: Re: [95attendees] Draft submission page X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 05:51:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F685B03A-FB5E-4AD1-8CB3-281EC23EC938 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Ya kids with yer fancy cloud services. In my day, we ran xml2rfc on our = computers! In python! :-) > On 21 Mar 2016, at 6:21 AM, Robert Moskowitz = wrote: >=20 > the xml2rfc tool is also not responding. I had that last night at = this time. May well be maint. >=20 > On 03/21/2016 12:19 AM, Cristian F. Perez Monte wrote: >> I have the same problem. >>=20 >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:11 AM, Robert Moskowitz < = rgm@labs.htt-consult.com = > wrote: >> Is it down for maint or just swamped? I have been busy writing and = now need to submit, but I am getting gateway timeout messages. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees --Apple-Mail=_F685B03A-FB5E-4AD1-8CB3-281EC23EC938 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Ya kids with yer fancy cloud services. In my day, we ran xml2rfc on our computers! In python!

:-)

On 21 Mar 2016, at 6:21 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:

the xml2rfc tool is also not responding.  I had that last night at this time.  May well be maint.

On 03/21/2016 12:19 AM, Cristian F. Perez Monte wrote:
I have the same problem.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:11 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
Is it down for maint or just swamped?  I have been busy writing and now need to submit, but I am getting gateway timeout messages.


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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 07:26:09 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --kQv50hg24mNnWjqkJJQVJOxJbSWaOlE4d Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="WuGeShLElBoPipeRHUWLRJOtv3Uf3L0Oj" From: Stefan Winter To: 95attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <56EFA205.8050909@restena.lu> Subject: Re: [95attendees] Airport transportation References: <56EB3216.3040600@labs.htt-consult.com> <1458254490607-4cff9be2-0f04d5d0-88c32e59@lacnic.net> <1AEB5379-EAA2-4CE1-B69F-8976C4E9ED78@jisc.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <1AEB5379-EAA2-4CE1-B69F-8976C4E9ED78@jisc.ac.uk> --WuGeShLElBoPipeRHUWLRJOtv3Uf3L0Oj Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020505020505020502060302" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020505020505020502060302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, > There=92s usually good info on the meeting wiki. If not, you should be > able to add it :) >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf95 What I didn't find there yet (and can't add because I don't know :-) ) is: what to expect as transit time towards the airport. My last meeting ends 1320 on Friday, with my flight departing at 1655. That leaves 3.5 hours for transit, check-in, security and boarding. Does that work? Greetings, Stefan Winter >=20 > Tim=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 17 Mar 2016, at 22:41, Carlos Martinez > > wrote: >> >> Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful >> >> Sent from a mobile device.=20 >> Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. >> >> Sent using CloudMagic Email >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz >> > wrote: >> >> Well first we need from the airport to the hotels? >> >> On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I don't know if this was discussed already. >> > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area? >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Behcet >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >=20 --=20 Stefan WINTER Ingenieur de Recherche Fondation RESTENA - R=E9seau T=E9l=E9informatique de l'Education National= e et de la Recherche 2, avenue de l'Universit=E9 L-4365 Esch-sur-Alzette Tel: +352 424409 1 Fax: +352 422473 PGP key updated to 4096 Bit RSA - I will encrypt all mails if the recipient's key is known to me http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D0xC0DE6A358A39DC66 --------------020505020505020502060302 Content-Type: application/pgp-keys; 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" <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 07:52:19 -0000 --_000_CY1PR05MB274760DD28CFB1850CDC4EC0C28F0CY1PR05MB2747namp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, Could you please let me know the distance between Airport AEP and San marti= n. How much will the taxi costs. As per below website it is around 60 AED. http://www.toandfromtheairport.com/buenosaires.html Regards, Sudhin --_000_CY1PR05MB274760DD28CFB1850CDC4EC0C28F0CY1PR05MB2747namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All,
 
Could you please let me know the distance between Airport AEP and San = martin. How much will the taxi costs. As per below website it is around 60 = AED.
 
 
Regards,
Sudhin
 
 --_000_CY1PR05MB274760DD28CFB1850CDC4EC0C28F0CY1PR05MB2747namp_-- From nobody Mon Mar 21 04:08:25 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB5912D5D4 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 04:08:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vP2J5uppyLB8 for <95attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 04:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [200.7.84.8]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D761912D734 for <95attendees@ietf.org>; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 04:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.lacnic.net.uy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A9916B409F8; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 08:01:06 -0300 (UYT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lacnic.net.uy Received: from mail.lacnic.net.uy ([127.0.0.1]) by hermes.lacnic.net.uy (mail.lacnic.net.uy [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id gz-GDWDgi9Ib; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 08:01:04 -0300 (UYT) Received: from torrance.local (r167-61-98-70.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy [167.61.98.70]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.lacnic.net.uy (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A398D16B4086D; Mon, 21 Mar 2016 08:01:04 -0300 (UYT) To: Stefan Winter , 95attendees@ietf.org References: <56EB3216.3040600@labs.htt-consult.com> <1458254490607-4cff9be2-0f04d5d0-88c32e59@lacnic.net> <1AEB5379-EAA2-4CE1-B69F-8976C4E9ED78@jisc.ac.uk> <56EFA205.8050909@restena.lu> From: "Carlos M. Martinez" Message-ID: <56EFD60B.60801@lacnic.net> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 08:07:55 -0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56EFA205.8050909@restena.lu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TJPwOxNex7qJnpp7e1u7FHvFAQjcX2uN4" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [95attendees] Airport transportation X-BeenThere: 95attendees@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 95 attendees that have opted in on this list. " <95attendees.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:08:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --TJPwOxNex7qJnpp7e1u7FHvFAQjcX2uN4 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="4XG1EsEUk0Baxoqek29mKxSJW0bFq7l8J" From: "Carlos M. Martinez" To: Stefan Winter , 95attendees@ietf.org Message-ID: <56EFD60B.60801@lacnic.net> Subject: Re: [95attendees] Airport transportation References: <56EB3216.3040600@labs.htt-consult.com> <1458254490607-4cff9be2-0f04d5d0-88c32e59@lacnic.net> <1AEB5379-EAA2-4CE1-B69F-8976C4E9ED78@jisc.ac.uk> <56EFA205.8050909@restena.lu> In-Reply-To: <56EFA205.8050909@restena.lu> --4XG1EsEUk0Baxoqek29mKxSJW0bFq7l8J Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050803050609070407050705" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050803050609070407050705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It'll be a big thight, but if you leave right after your last meeting, you should be fine. Try to pre-arrange a remis and have bags and checkout process already completed. -Carlos On 3/21/16 4:25 AM, Stefan Winter wrote: > Hi, > >> There=92s usually good info on the meeting wiki. If not, you should be= >> able to add it :) >> >> https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf95 > What I didn't find there yet (and can't add because I don't know :-) ) > is: what to expect as transit time towards the airport. > > My last meeting ends 1320 on Friday, with my flight departing at 1655. > > That leaves 3.5 hours for transit, check-in, security and boarding. Doe= s > that work? > > Greetings, > > Stefan Winter > >> Tim=20 >> >> >> >>> On 17 Mar 2016, at 22:41, Carlos Martinez >> > wrote: >>> >>> Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful >>> >>> Sent from a mobile device.=20 >>> Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. >>> >>> Sent using CloudMagic Email >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Well first we need from the airport to the hotels? >>> >>> On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote: >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I don't know if this was discussed already. >>> > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area? >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > >>> > Behcet >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 95attendees mailing list >>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> 95attendees mailing list >>> 95attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> 95attendees mailing list >> 95attendees@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > 95attendees mailing list > 95attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees --------------050803050609070407050705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It'll be a big thight, but if you leave right after your last meeting, you should be fine. Try to pre-arrange a remis and have bags and checkout process already completed.

-Carlos

On 3/21/16 4:25 AM, Stefan Winter wrote:
Hi,


There=92s usually good info on the meeting wiki. I=
f not, you should be
able to add it :)

https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWik=
i/wiki/ietf95

What I didn't find there yet (and can't add because I don't know :-) )
is: what to expect as transit time towards the airport.

My last meeting ends 1320 on Friday, with my flight departing at 1655.

That leaves 3.5 hours for transit, check-in, security and boarding. Does
that work?

Greetings,

Stefan Winter


Tim=20




On 17 Mar 2016, at 22:41, Carlos Martinez <car=
los@lacnic.net
<=
mailto:carlos@lacnic.net>> wrote:

Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful

Sent from a mobile device.=20
Enviado desde un dispositivo movil.

Sent using CloudMagic Email
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<rgm@labs.htt-consult.com <mailto:rgm@labs.htt-consult=
=2Ecom>> wrote:

    Well first we need from the airport to the hotels?

    On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
    >   Hi all,
    >
    > I don't know if this was discussed already.
    > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Behcet


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Try to pre-arrange a remis and have bags and = checkout process already completed. -Carlos On 3/21/16 4:25 AM, Stefan = Winter wrote: Hi, There=E2=80=99s usually good info on the meeting wiki.= If not, you should be able to add it :) https://www.ietf.= org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf95 [https://www.ietf.= org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf95] What I didn't find there yet = (and can't add because I don't know :-) ) is: what to expect as transit = time towards the airport. My last meeting ends 1320 on Friday, with my = flight departing at 1655. That leaves 3.5 hours for transit, check-in, = security and boarding. Does that work? Greetings, Stefan Winter Tim=20 On 17 Mar 2016, at 22:41, Carlos Martinez [carlos@lacnic.net]> wrote: Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful Sent from a mobile device.=20 Enviado desde un dispositivo movil. Sent using CloudMagic Email [https://cloudmagic= .com/k/d/mailapp?ct=3Dpa&cv=3D8.2.23&pv=3D6.0.1&source=3Demail_footer_2] On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Robert Moskowitz [rgm@labs.= htt-consult.com]> wrote: Well first we need from the airport to the = hotels? 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Btw, Waze provides good estimates for transit times.=  


On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at = 8:07 AM, Carlos M. Martinez <carlos@lacnic.net> = wrote:
=20 =20 =20
It'll be a big thight, but if you leave right after your last meeting, you should be fine. Try to pre-arrange a remis and have bags and checkout process already completed.

-Carlos

On = 3/21/16 4:25 AM, Stefan Winter wrote:
Hi,


There=E2=80=99s =
usually good info on the meeting wiki. If not, you should be
able to add it :)

https://www.ietf.=
org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf95

What I didn't find there yet (and can't add because I don't know=
 :-) )
is: what to expect as transit time towards the airport.

My last meeting ends 1320 on Friday, with my flight departing at 1655.

That leaves 3.5 hours for transit, check-in, security and boarding. Does
that work?

Greetings,

Stefan Winter


Tim=20




On 17 Mar=
 2016, at 22:41, Carlos Martinez <carlos@lacnic.net
<mailto:carlos@lacnic.net>> wrote:

Take any of the official taxis. They are inexpensive and plentiful

Sent from a mobile device.=20
Enviado desde un dispositivo movil.

Sent using CloudMagic Email
<https://cloudmagic.=
com/k/d/mailapp?ct=3Dpa&cv=3D8.2.23&pv=3D6.0.=
1&source=3Demail_footer_2>

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 7:33 PM, =
Robert Moskowitz
<rgm@labs.htt-consult.com <mailto:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>> wrote:

    Well first we need from the airport to the hotels?

    On 03/17/2016 06:30 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
    >   Hi all,
    >
    > I don't know if this was discussed already.
    > Is there subway/metro to the airport EZE from the hotels area?
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > Behcet


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Do you have an address in San Martin?

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 4:51 AM, Sudhin Jacob  wrote:

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> Could you please let me know the distance between Airport AEP and San
> martin. How much will the taxi costs. As per below website it is around 60
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> *http://www.toandfromtheairport.com/buenosaires.html*
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Do you have an address in San Martin?

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Bariloche, in the northern part of Patagonian, isn't a bad place for a
visit either. Saying so gives me an opportunistic to shill a photo on the
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> I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Could you please
> let me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. Whether they accept
> cards. How far is falls from Iguazu airport. Do they have taxi service
> round the clock. Is this place safe.
> Your help is much appreciated.
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Bariloche, in the northern part of Patagonian, isn't a bad place f=
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the attendees list as I'm wont to do https://flic.kr/p/eihBme ;)

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Sudhin J=
acob <sjacob@juniper.net> wrote:











Hi All,


=C2=A0


I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Could you pleas=
e let me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. Whether they acce=
pt cards. How far is falls from Iguazu airport. Do they have taxi service r=
ound the clock. Is this place safe.


 Your help is much appreciated.


=C2=A0


Regards,


Sudhin


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Google maps says: 17min (6.6km) -
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/AEP+-+Avenida+Costanera+Rafael+Obligado,+Bu=
enos+Aires,+Autonomous+City+of+Buenos+Aires,+Argentina/Sheraton+Buenos+Aire=
s+Hotel+%26+Convention+Center,+San+Mart%C3%ADn+1225,+CABA,+Cdad.+Aut%C3%B3n=
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 8:47 AM Sudhin Jacob  wrote:

> Hi Miguel,
>
>
>
> Kindly find below the address.
>
>
>
> Sheraton Buenos Aires San Mart=C3=ADn 1225, CABA, Cdad. Aut=C3=B3noma de =
Buenos
> Aires, Argentina
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sudhin
>
>
>
> *From:* Miguel Ignacio Estrada [mailto:miestrada@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 6:09 PM
> *To:* Sudhin Jacob 
> *Cc:* 95attendees@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [95attendees] REG: Distance between AEP airport and San
> martin
>
>
>
> Do you have an address in San Martin?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 4:51 AM, Sudhin Jacob  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Could you please let me know the distance between Airport AEP and San
> martin. How much will the taxi costs. As per below website it is around 6=
0
> AED.
>
>
>
> http://www.toandfromtheairport.com/buenosaires.html
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sudhin
>
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>
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Hi Miguel,


=C2=A0


Kindly find below the address.=



=C2=A0


Sheraton Buenos Aires San Mart=
=C3=ADn 1225, CABA, Cdad. Aut=C3=B3noma de Buenos Aires, Argentina


=C2=A0


Regards,


Sudhin


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I was in Argentina (including Buenos Aries) for about two weeks in 2014.  C=
onversion for Argentina back to whatever is not so clean.  I suggest using =
credit cards when possible and cash machines.  That way you won=92t have a =
large sum to convert back.   The cash machines, if I recall, a rather limit=
ing in the amount you can withdraw at any given time.  Perhaps someone from=
 Argentina could elaborate.  I think they also had a relatively high fee.

Will

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Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This TripAdvisor article recomme=
nds to bring USD and Euros:



https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s301/Buenos-Aires:Argentina:Ar=
riving.And.Departing.html



=85any advice much appreciated, thanks!

All best,
Kevin

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I was in Argentina (including Buenos Aries) for about two weeks in 201=
4.  Conversion for Argentina back to whatever is not so clean.  I=
 suggest using credit cards when possible and cash machines.  That way=
 you won=92t have a large sum to convert back.  
 The cash machines, if I recall, a rather limiting in the amount you can wi=
thdraw at any given time.  Perhaps someone from Argentina could elabor=
ate.  I think they also had a relatively high fee.







Will









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behalf of "Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group" <Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com>

Date: Monday, March 21, 2016 at 9:1=
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To: "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org>

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Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This T=
ripAdvisor article recommends to bring USD and Euros:


 


https://www=
.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s301/Buenos-Aires:Argentina:Arriving.And.=
Departing.html


 


=85any advice much appreciated, thanks!


 


All best,


Kevin













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I was in Argentina (including Buenos Aries) for about two weeks in 2014.  C=
onversion for Argentina back to whatever is not so clean.

It was extremely confusing and you had a big difference depending on where =
you did the transaction. Fortunately, it=92s not the case anymore, and the =
exchange rate is close to the best one you were able to get in the past.

Christian

I suggest using credit cards when possible and cash machines.
That way you won=92t have a large sum to convert back.   The cash machines,=
 if I recall, a rather limiting in the amount you can withdraw at any given=
 time.  Perhaps someone from Argentina could elaborate.  I think they also =
had a relatively high fee.

Will

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Subject: [95attendees] Recommended currency

Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This TripAdvisor article recomme=
nds to bring USD and Euros:

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s301/Buenos-Aires:Argentina:Ar=
riving.And.Departing.html

=85any advice much appreciated, thanks!

All best,
Kevin
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I was in Argentina (including Buenos Aries) for about two weeks in 2014. &n=
bsp;Conversion for Argentina back to whatever is not so clean.  











It was extremely confusing and you had a big difference depending on w=
here you did the transaction. Fortunately, it=92s not the case anymore, and=
 the exchange rate is close to the best one you were able to get in the pas=
t.







Christian









I suggest using credit cards when possible and cash machines.  











That way you won=92t have a large sum to convert back.   The cash mach=
ines, if I recall, a rather limiting in the amount you can withdraw at any =
given time.  Perhaps someone from Argentina could elaborate.  I t=
hink they also had a relatively high fee.









Will










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 of "Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group" <Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com>

Date: Monday, March 21, 2016 at 9:15 AM

To: "95attend=
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Subject: [95attendees] Recommended currency


















Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This TripAdvisor article recomme=
nds to bring USD and Euros:



 



https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s30=
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=85any advice much appreciated, thanks!



 



All best,



Kevin









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Last few times I was there I converted some USD at the airport, and then
more at one of the many "unofficial" money changes in town, where I got a
better rate.

Unless you are planning on buying something expensive (personally I'm
lusting over a Casa Fagliano watch strap :-P) I'd just pay with a credit
card or argentine pesos -- faffing with a conversion rate for lunch doesn't
seem worth the faff to me. It also fees somewhat impolite to me -- e.g if
you were running a shop how would you feel if someone came in and tried to
pay with Macanese Pataca?

W

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Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com> wrote:

> Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This TripAdvisor article
> recommends to bring USD and Euros:
>
>
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> https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s301/Buenos-Aires:Argentina:=
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> =E2=80=A6any advice much appreciated, thanks!
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> All best,
>
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Last few times I was there I converted some USD at the air=
port, and then more at one of the many "unofficial" money changes=
 in town, where I got a better rate. =C2=A0

Unless you a=
re planning on buying something expensive (personally I'm lusting over =
a Casa Fagliano watch strap :-P) I'd just pay with a credit card or arg=
entine pesos -- faffing with a conversion rate for lunch doesn't seem w=
orth the faff to me. It also fees somewhat impolite to me -- e.g if you wer=
e running a shop how would you feel if someone came in and tried to pay wit=
h=C2=A0Macanese Pataca?

W

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:16 AM Smi=
th, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group <Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com> wrote:











Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This TripAdvisor article reco=
mmends to bring USD and Euros:


=C2=A0


https://www.trip=
advisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s301/Buenos-Aires:Argentina:Arriving.And.Depar=
ting.html


=C2=A0


=E2=80=A6any advice much appreciated, thanks!


=C2=A0


All best,


Kevin






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On 21 Mar 2016, at 13:35, Christian O'Flaherty > wrote:

Hi,

Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This TripAdvisor article recomme=
nds to bring USD and Euros:

I included a brief section in the wiki. Nowadays you get between 14 and 15 =
pesos for each dollar. It=92s been fluctuating between 14 and 16 for the pa=
st three months. All the references to "blue=94 dollar are outdated. There=
=92s no need to risk yourself exchanging money in the street. You can use A=
TM machines, banks or stores (=93casa de cambio=94).

OK, but local bars and restaurants take what?

Planning to try to get Argentinian currency - my fear is whether it=92s eas=
y to change back unused money afterwards.  I=92ll bring my float of USD/EUR=
O that I always have too.

Tim


Christian


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riving.And.Departing.html

=85any advice much appreciated, thanks!

All best,
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On 21 Mar 2016, at 13:35, Christian O'Flaherty <oflaherty@isoc.org> wrote:=








Hi, 













Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This TripAdvisor article recomme=
nds to bring USD and Euros:













I included a brief section in the wiki. Nowadays you get be=
tween 14 and 15 pesos for each dollar. It=92s been fluctuating between 14 a=
nd 16 for the past three months. All the references to "blue=94 dollar=
 are outdated. There=92s no need to risk yourself
 exchanging money in the street. You can use ATM machines, banks or stores =
(=93casa de cambio=94). 
















OK, but local bars and restaurants take what? 







Planning to try to get Argentinian currency - my fear is whether it=92=
s easy to change back unused money afterwards.  I=92ll bring my float =
of USD/EURO that I always have too.







Tim




















Christian


















 



https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s301/Bu=
enos-Aires:Argentina:Arriving.And.Departing.html



















 



=85any advice much appreciated, thanks!



 



All best,



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On Mar 21, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Brian Campbell > wrote:

Bariloche, in the northern part of Patagonian, isn't a bad place for a visi=
t either. Saying so gives me an opportunistic to shill a photo on the atten=
dees list as I'm wont to do https://flic.kr/p/eihBme ;)

Obama will stay in that hotel this week (I think he arrives tomorrow)

Christian


On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 7:31 PM, Sudhin Jacob > wrote:
Hi All,

I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Could you please let=
 me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. Whether they accept ca=
rds. How far is falls from Iguazu airport. Do they have taxi service round =
the clock. Is this place safe.
Your help is much appreciated.

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On Mar 21, 2016, at 9:59 AM, Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com> wrote:






Bariloche, in
 the northern part of Patagonian, isn't a bad place for a visit eith=
er. Saying so gives me an opportunistic to shill a photo on the attendees l=
ist as I'm wont to do
https://flic.kr/p/eihBme ;)











Obama will stay in that hotel this week (I think he arrives tomorrow)<=
/div>






Christian















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ob@juniper.net> wrote:






Hi All,


 


I am planning to go to Iguazu falls from Buenos Aires. Coul=
d you please let me know the taxi fare from Iguazu airport to Falls. Whethe=
r they accept cards. How far is falls from Iguazu airport. Do they have tax=
i service round the clock. Is this
 place safe.


Your help is much appreciated.


 


Regards,


Sudhin


 





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Please bear in mind that the days of the dual exchange rates are gladly
over. There is no game to play with the unofficial money exchanges now.
It's even possible that these will get you a *worse* rate since they now
cater mostly to the 'I don't want to use a bank for  reason'
crowd.

That said, I would avoid exchanging money at the airport (at any airport
actually, not only in Buenos Aires), since those are usually the worst
rates in town. You might have to get at least some pesos, but I wouldn't
exchange more than 100 usd at EZE. If you can withdraw from an ATM, try
that first.

cheers!

-Carlos

On 3/21/16 10:39 AM, Warren Kumari wrote:
> Last few times I was there I converted some USD at the airport, and
> then more at one of the many "unofficial" money changes in town, where
> I got a better rate.  
>
> Unless you are planning on buying something expensive (personally I'm
> lusting over a Casa Fagliano watch strap :-P) I'd just pay with a
> credit card or argentine pesos -- faffing with a conversion rate for
> lunch doesn't seem worth the faff to me. It also fees somewhat
> impolite to me -- e.g if you were running a shop how would you feel if
> someone came in and tried to pay with Macanese Pataca?
>
> W
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:16 AM Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group
> > wrote:
>
>     Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This TripAdvisor
>     article recommends to bring USD and Euros:
>
>      
>
>     https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s301/Buenos-Aires:Argentina:Arriving.And.Departing.html
>
>      
>
>     …any advice much appreciated, thanks!
>
>      
>
>     All best,
>
>     Kevin
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    Please bear in mind that the days of the dual exchange rates are
      gladly over. There is no game to play with the unofficial money
      exchanges now. It's even possible that these will get you a
      *worse* rate since they now cater mostly to the 'I don't want to
      use a bank for <whatever> reason' crowd.

      

      That said, I would avoid exchanging money at the airport (at any
      airport actually, not only in Buenos Aires), since those are
      usually the worst rates in town. You might have to get at least
      some pesos, but I wouldn't exchange more than 100 usd at EZE. If
      you can withdraw from an ATM, try that first.

      

      cheers!

      

      -Carlos

    

    
On 3/21/16 10:39 AM, Warren Kumari
      wrote:

    

    

      
Last few times I was there I converted some USD at
        the airport, and then more at one of the many "unofficial" money
        changes in town, where I got a better rate.  
        


        

        
Unless you are planning on buying something expensive
          (personally I'm lusting over a Casa Fagliano watch strap :-P)
          I'd just pay with a credit card or argentine pesos -- faffing
          with a conversion rate for lunch doesn't seem worth the faff
          to me. It also fees somewhat impolite to me -- e.g if you were
          running a shop how would you feel if someone came in and tried
          to pay with Macanese Pataca?

        


        

        

          
W

        

        

        

          
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:16 AM Smith, Kevin,
            (R&D) Vodafone Group <Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com>
            wrote:

          

          

            

              

                
Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This
                  TripAdvisor article recommends to bring USD and Euros:

                
 

                
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s301/Buenos-Aires:Argentina:Arriving.And.Departing.html

                
 

                
…any advice much appreciated, thanks!

                
 

                
All
                    best,

                
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Tim, you can easily get your USD / Euros back at the airport when you leave
> http://www.airportnewsezeiza.com/paginas/servicios/cambio.html

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Carlos M. Martinez 
wrote:

> Please bear in mind that the days of the dual exchange rates are gladly
> over. There is no game to play with the unofficial money exchanges now.
> It's even possible that these will get you a *worse* rate since they now
> cater mostly to the 'I don't want to use a bank for  reason'
> crowd.
>
> That said, I would avoid exchanging money at the airport (at any airport
> actually, not only in Buenos Aires), since those are usually the worst
> rates in town. You might have to get at least some pesos, but I wouldn't
> exchange more than 100 usd at EZE. If you can withdraw from an ATM, try
> that first.
>
> cheers!
>
> -Carlos
>
> On 3/21/16 10:39 AM, Warren Kumari wrote:
>
> Last few times I was there I converted some USD at the airport, and then
> more at one of the many "unofficial" money changes in town, where I got a
> better rate.
>
> Unless you are planning on buying something expensive (personally I'm
> lusting over a Casa Fagliano watch strap :-P) I'd just pay with a credit
> card or argentine pesos -- faffing with a conversion rate for lunch doesn=
't
> seem worth the faff to me. It also fees somewhat impolite to me -- e.g if
> you were running a shop how would you feel if someone came in and tried t=
o
> pay with Macanese Pataca?
>
> W
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:16 AM Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group <
> Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com> wrote:
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>> Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This TripAdvisor article
>> recommends to bring USD and Euros:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s301/Buenos-Aires:Argentina=
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>> =E2=80=A6any advice much appreciated, thanks!
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>> All best,
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Tim, you can easily get your USD / Euros back at the airpo=
rt when you leave >=C2=A0http://www.airportnewsezeiza.com/paginas/servic=
ios/cambio.html

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Carlos M. Martinez <carlos@lacni=
c.net> wrote:

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    Please bear in mind that the days of the dual exchange rates are
      gladly over. There is no game to play with the unofficial money
      exchanges now. It's even possible that these will get you a
      *worse* rate since they now cater mostly to the 'I don't want=
 to
      use a bank for <whatever> reason' crowd.

      

      That said, I would avoid exchanging money at the airport (at any
      airport actually, not only in Buenos Aires), since those are
      usually the worst rates in town. You might have to get at least
      some pesos, but I wouldn't exchange more than 100 usd at EZE. If
      you can withdraw from an ATM, try that first.

      

      cheers!

      

      -Carlos

    


    
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Last few times I was there I converted some USD at
        the airport, and then more at one of the many "unofficial"=
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Unless you are planning on buying something expensive
          (personally I'm lusting over a Casa Fagliano watch strap :-P)
          I'd just pay with a credit card or argentine pesos -- faffing
          with a conversion rate for lunch doesn't seem worth the faff
          to me. It also fees somewhat impolite to me -- e.g if you were
          running a shop how would you feel if someone came in and tried
          to pay with=C2=A0Macanese Pataca?

        


        

        

          
W

        

        

        

          
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Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This
                  TripAdvisor article recommends to bring USD and Euros:
                
=C2=A0

                
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:42 AM Tim Chown  wrote:

> On 21 Mar 2016, at 13:35, Christian O'Flaherty  wrote=
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> Hi,
>
> Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This TripAdvisor article
> recommends to bring USD and Euros:
>
>
> I included a brief section in the wiki. Nowadays you get between 14 and 1=
5
> pesos for each dollar. It=E2=80=99s been fluctuating between 14 and 16 fo=
r the past
> three months. All the references to "blue=E2=80=9D dollar are outdated. T=
here=E2=80=99s no
> need to risk yourself exchanging money in the street. You can use ATM
> machines, banks or stores (=E2=80=9Ccasa de cambio=E2=80=9D).
>
>
> OK, but local bars and restaurants take what?
>
> Planning to try to get Argentinian currency - my fear is whether it=E2=80=
=99s easy
> to change back unused money afterwards.
>

I had no issues when I left last time, although I lost a fair bit on
conversion.

This is different to Sengal, where the currency conversion places were all
closed when I left... and apparently you cannot convert money outside the
country, so I have the equivalent of ~$350USD in West African CFA franc.

I=E2=80=99ll bring my float of USD/EURO that I always have too.
>

W


>
> Tim
>
>
> Christian
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>
> *https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s301/Buenos-Aires:Argentina=
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Exchange-rate *at the time* wasn't "clear". But rumor has it that
changing money in the street's would get you more than 50% over the rate
you'd pay with the credit card (so that last thing you'd have done at
the time was to use a credit card in any way).

Nowadays the exchange of currency is what, say, you'd normally expect.

I suggest you always exchange money at Banco Nacion (our national bank)
which typically has a better rate than anyone else.

Thanks,
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On 03/21/2016 02:21 PM, Ivancic, William D. (GRC-LCA0) wrote:
> I was in Argentina (including Buenos Aries) for about two weeks in 2014.
>  Conversion for Argentina back to whatever is not so clean.  I suggest
> using credit cards when possible and cash machines.  That way you won’t
> have a large sum to convert back.   The cash machines, if I recall, a
> rather limiting in the amount you can withdraw at any given time.
>  Perhaps someone from Argentina could elaborate.  I think they also had
> a relatively high fee.
> 
> Will
> 
> From: 95attendees <95attendees-bounces@ietf.org
> > on behalf of "Smith, Kevin, (R&D)
> Vodafone Group" >
> Date: Monday, March 21, 2016 at 9:15 AM
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>     Hi, any recommendation on currency please? This TripAdvisor article
>     recommends to bring USD and Euros:
> 
>      
> 
>     https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Travel-g312741-s301/Buenos-Aires:Argentina:Arriving.And.Departing.html
> 
>      
> 
>     …any advice much appreciated, thanks!
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>      
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>     All best,
> 
>     Kevin
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On 03/21/2016 02:47 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
> Please bear in mind that the days of the dual exchange rates are gladly
> over.

The days of dual exchange rates are over. We've now moved on to firing
employees.

Not sure I tag the above situation as something that makes me glad, though.

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IMF FTW?   Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we will have coming in
is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.   Does the national
bank have branches that are open on the weekend?

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Fernando Gont  wrote:

> On 03/21/2016 02:47 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
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> > over.
>
> The days of dual exchange rates are over. We've now moved on to firing
> employees.
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> Not sure I tag the above situation as something that makes me glad, though.
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dump all but your airport money on the hotel at checkout

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On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:04:53AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:
> IMF FTW?   Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we will have coming in
> is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.   Does the national
> bank have branches that are open on the weekend?

	I'll chime in here with a different question:

What is the prevelance of locations that accept visa/amex vs cash?  My first
time traveling to Japan I was advised that most people paid in cash for things
so to carry a lot more cash than usual as few locations accepted CC.

	Therefore my concern is just how much "walking around cash" is best for
this country where I have not yet been but will be visiting for 10 days, and
are there enough ATMs about that I can easily obtain additional cash as necessary?

	My damage comes also from Japan where you often have to find the proper
venue to use an american issued card. 

	Myself, I just use ATM to change money and the only exception was
returning from some EU countries that aren't on the Euro and ultimately
changed some residual currency back elsewhere.  I do like Randy's keen solution
which is to pay part of hotel bill in cash and leave the country with minimal
resulting currency.  I keep Yen/Euros as I return often enough, but the 10PLN
note on my desk I should have used up.

	- Jared

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On 03/21/2016 03:04 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> IMF FTW?   

Not sure what FTW stands for ("for the win"?). Anyway, the people to
blame for accepting policies that are not good for the local people are
the local politicians (I obviously have my own opinion regarding
entities pushing policies that tend to oppress people, too).


> Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we will have coming
> in is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.   Does the
> national bank have branches that are open on the weekend?

If you arrive at EZE, the bank used to be open 24hs, including weekends.
Haven't checked lately, but I'd bet that's still the case.

Works case scenario, the usual thing: just change a little bit to get to
the city, then change the gross at the city.

You mostly need cash for cabs, and kiosks. Most big shops or
chain-stores will typically take credit cards.

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Cash everywhere
Visa almost everywhere
Amex, a little less less than almost everywhere

:P

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Jared Mauch  wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:04:53AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:
> > IMF FTW?   Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we will have coming
> in
> > is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.   Does the
> national
> > bank have branches that are open on the weekend?
>
>         I'll chime in here with a different question:
>
> What is the prevelance of locations that accept visa/amex vs cash?  My
> first
> time traveling to Japan I was advised that most people paid in cash for
> things
> so to carry a lot more cash than usual as few locations accepted CC.
>
>         Therefore my concern is just how much "walking around cash" is
> best for
> this country where I have not yet been but will be visiting for 10 days,
> and
> are there enough ATMs about that I can easily obtain additional cash as
> necessary?
>
>         My damage comes also from Japan where you often have to find the
> proper
> venue to use an american issued card.
>
>         Myself, I just use ATM to change money and the only exception was
> returning from some EU countries that aren't on the Euro and ultimately
> changed some residual currency back elsewhere.  I do like Randy's keen
> solution
> which is to pay part of hotel bill in cash and leave the country with
> minimal
> resulting currency.  I keep Yen/Euros as I return often enough, but the
> 10PLN
> note on my desk I should have used up.
>
>         - Jared
>
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Cash everywhere
Visa almost everywhere
Amex,=
 a little less less than almost everywhere

:P

On Mon, Ma=
r 21, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 2=
1, 2016 at 10:04:53AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:

> IMF FTW?=C2=A0 =C2=A0Or not.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Anyway, one of the issues tha=
t we will have coming in

> is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Doe=
s the national

> bank have branches that are open on the weekend?



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'll chime in here with a different =
question:



What is the prevelance of locations that accept visa/amex vs cash?=C2=A0 My=
 first

time traveling to Japan I was advised that most people paid in cash for thi=
ngs

so to carry a lot more cash than usual as few locations accepted CC.



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Therefore my concern is just how much "wal=
king around cash" is best for

this country where I have not yet been but will be visiting for 10 days, an=
d

are there enough ATMs about that I can easily obtain additional cash as nec=
essary?



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 My damage comes also from Japan where you often=
 have to find the proper

venue to use an american issued card.



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Myself, I just use ATM to change money and the =
only exception was

returning from some EU countries that aren't on the Euro and ultimately=


changed some residual currency back elsewhere.=C2=A0 I do like Randy's =
keen solution

which is to pay part of hotel bill in cash and leave the country with minim=
al

resulting currency.=C2=A0 I keep Yen/Euros as I return often enough, but th=
e 10PLN

note on my desk I should have used up.



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Jared



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Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
> If you can withdraw from an ATM, try that first.

That is of course advice that holds almost everywhere on the planet.
Money exchanges are so last century.

So how well do Argentinian ATMs work with, say, European Maestro cards?
Any recommendations on banks that have ATMs that have Maestro signs on
them and really deserve them?  (Cf. China, where a lot of ATMs have that
logo, but only very few actually do honor it, so you have to know which
banks do.)

Grüße, Carsten


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Perfect, thanks!

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Fernando Gont 
wrote:

> On 03/21/2016 03:04 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> > IMF FTW?
>
> Not sure what FTW stands for ("for the win"?). Anyway, the people to
> blame for accepting policies that are not good for the local people are
> the local politicians (I obviously have my own opinion regarding
> entities pushing policies that tend to oppress people, too).
>
>
> > Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we will have coming
> > in is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.   Does the
> > national bank have branches that are open on the weekend?
>
> If you arrive at EZE, the bank used to be open 24hs, including weekends.
> Haven't checked lately, but I'd bet that's still the case.
>
> Works case scenario, the usual thing: just change a little bit to get to
> the city, then change the gross at the city.
>
> You mostly need cash for cabs, and kiosks. Most big shops or
> chain-stores will typically take credit cards.
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Perfect, thanks!

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Fernando Gont <=
fernando@gont.com.ar> wrote:
On 03/21/2016 03:04 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:

> IMF FTW?



Not sure what FTW stands for ("for the win"?). Anyway, the=
 people to

blame for accepting policies that are not good for the local people are

the local politicians (I obviously have my own opinion regarding

entities pushing policies that tend to oppress people, too).





> Or not.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Anyway, one of the issues that we will have coming=


> in is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
Does the

> national bank have branches that are open on the weekend?



If you arrive at EZE, the bank used to be open 24hs, including weeke=
nds.

Haven't checked lately, but I'd bet that's still the case.



Works case scenario, the usual thing: just change a little bit to get to
the city, then change the gross at the city.



You mostly need cash for cabs, and kiosks. Most big shops or

chain-stores will typically take credit cards.




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On Mon, 21 Mar 2016, Carsten Bormann wrote:

> Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
>> If you can withdraw from an ATM, try that first.
>
> That is of course advice that holds almost everywhere on the planet.
> Money exchanges are so last century.
>
> So how well do Argentinian ATMs work with, say, European Maestro cards?
> Any recommendations on banks that have ATMs that have Maestro signs on
> them and really deserve them?  (Cf. China, where a lot of ATMs have that
> logo, but only very few actually do honor it, so you have to know which
> banks do.)

I had 3 of my 4 credit cards not working in the ATMs there half a year
ago when I was there for ICANN. There are few north american banks nearby
which have a better choice, but I had to resort to a Dutch personal card
as my business cards and personal cards from Canada did not work :(

Paul


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>Could you please let me know the distance between Airport AEP and San martin. How much will the taxi costs. As per below
>website it is around 60 AED.

As others have noted, if you want to take a taxi, book a "remise" taxi
at the booth in the airport near the exit from immigration.  The price
should be about USD 35.  Since currency controls have been removed the price
in dollars and pesos will be about the same.

If you're staying at the Sheraton, the Manuel Tienda Leon bus is
nearly as fast since the city bus station is adjacent to the Sheraton.


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>IMF FTW?   Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we will have coming in
>is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.   Does the national
>bank have branches that are open on the weekend?

No, but thre are ATMs at the airport that give you a decent exchange
rate albeit with a fairly high fixed withdrawal fee.  My bank rebates
the withdrawal fee, you might see whether yours does.

R's,
John


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Sorry for stating the obvious :-)

I have a Maestro card issued by an Uruguayan bank which I've used
sucessfully in Argentina for quite a few years.

-Carlos

On 3/21/16 11:16 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
>> If you can withdraw from an ATM, try that first.
> That is of course advice that holds almost everywhere on the planet.
> Money exchanges are so last century.
>
> So how well do Argentinian ATMs work with, say, European Maestro cards?
> Any recommendations on banks that have ATMs that have Maestro signs on
> them and really deserve them?  (Cf. China, where a lot of ATMs have that
> logo, but only very few actually do honor it, so you have to know which
> banks do.)
>
> Grüße, Carsten


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Folks,

we are going to have GPG Keysinging Party @ DNS-OARC that happens to be in =
Buenos Aires just week before IETF.  As the recommended process doesn't inv=
olve reading hexadecimal characters aloud, but just meeting at least two pe=
ople at the same time, I think it might be good idea to extend the event ev=
en during the IETF week.

The process is described here:

http://oerdnj.github.io/dns-oarc-keysigning

TL;DR version is:
* there will be checksummed sheet with all the participants,
* you check your key is valid in the sheet
* you meet f2f with other participant
* both of you cross-check just the checksum of the sheet
  * you state are number #n on the sheet and your keys are ok
  * you show each other government issued ID

That way it doesn't take ages, and it can be done during any break, during =
beer, during social, etc.; just find another participant from the list and =
ask him.

(Personally last time I did this, I just wrote my # from the list on my =
badge, so other people know I am willing to sign their keys.)

Cheers,
--
 Ond=C5=99ej Sur=C3=BD -- Technical Fellow
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It's true that you might have to notify your bank that you'll be traveling.

On 3/21/16 11:27 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>
>> Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
>>> If you can withdraw from an ATM, try that first.
>>
>> That is of course advice that holds almost everywhere on the planet.
>> Money exchanges are so last century.
>>
>> So how well do Argentinian ATMs work with, say, European Maestro cards?
>> Any recommendations on banks that have ATMs that have Maestro signs on
>> them and really deserve them?  (Cf. China, where a lot of ATMs have that
>> logo, but only very few actually do honor it, so you have to know which
>> banks do.)
>
> I had 3 of my 4 credit cards not working in the ATMs there half a year
> ago when I was there for ICANN. There are few north american banks nearby
> which have a better choice, but I had to resort to a Dutch personal card
> as my business cards and personal cards from Canada did not work :(
>
> Paul
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We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you take credit cards?"
beforehand if concerned. Visa and.mc are accepted everywhere where they
accept credit cards. Not sure about amex.

Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos with you. I'd even say no
more than 800 pesos. (Sec cons..although pueryo madero is, to a large
extent, disneyland)

  --- this is from my long overdue "survival guide to ba" that i hope to
publish this week.
El 21/3/2016 15:14, "Jared Mauch"  escribi=C3=B3:

> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:04:53AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:
> > IMF FTW?   Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we will have coming
> in
> > is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.   Does the
> national
> > bank have branches that are open on the weekend?
>
>         I'll chime in here with a different question:
>
> What is the prevelance of locations that accept visa/amex vs cash?  My
> first
> time traveling to Japan I was advised that most people paid in cash for
> things
> so to carry a lot more cash than usual as few locations accepted CC.
>
>         Therefore my concern is just how much "walking around cash" is
> best for
> this country where I have not yet been but will be visiting for 10 days,
> and
> are there enough ATMs about that I can easily obtain additional cash as
> necessary?
>
>         My damage comes also from Japan where you often have to find the
> proper
> venue to use an american issued card.
>
>         Myself, I just use ATM to change money and the only exception was
> returning from some EU countries that aren't on the Euro and ultimately
> changed some residual currency back elsewhere.  I do like Randy's keen
> solution
> which is to pay part of hotel bill in cash and leave the country with
> minimal
> resulting currency.  I keep Yen/Euros as I return often enough, but the
> 10PLN
> note on my desk I should have used up.
>
>         - Jared
>
> --
> Jared Mauch  | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net
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> mine.
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We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you take cred=
it cards?" beforehand if concerned. Visa and=
.mc are accepted everywhere where they accept credit cards. Not sure ab=
out amex.


Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos with you. I=
9;d even say no more than 800 pesos. (Sec cons..although pueryo madero is, =
to a large extent, disneyland)


=C2=A0 --- this is from my long overdue "survival guide=
 to ba" that i hope to publish this week.


El 21/3/2016 15:14, "Jared Mauch" <=
jared@puck.nether.net> escr=
ibi=C3=B3:
On Mon, =
Mar 21, 2016 at 10:04:53AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:

> IMF FTW?=C2=A0 =C2=A0Or not.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Anyway, one of the issues tha=
t we will have coming in

> is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Doe=
s the national

> bank have branches that are open on the weekend?



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'll chime in here with a different questio=
n:



What is the prevelance of locations that accept visa/amex vs cash?=C2=A0 My=
 first

time traveling to Japan I was advised that most people paid in cash for thi=
ngs

so to carry a lot more cash than usual as few locations accepted CC.



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Therefore my concern is just how much "wal=
king around cash" is best for

this country where I have not yet been but will be visiting for 10 days, an=
d

are there enough ATMs about that I can easily obtain additional cash as nec=
essary?



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 My damage comes also from Japan where you often=
 have to find the proper

venue to use an american issued card.



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Myself, I just use ATM to change money and the =
only exception was

returning from some EU countries that aren't on the Euro and ultimately=


changed some residual currency back elsewhere.=C2=A0 I do like Randy's =
keen solution

which is to pay part of hotel bill in cash and leave the country with minim=
al

resulting currency.=C2=A0 I keep Yen/Euros as I return often enough, but th=
e 10PLN

note on my desk I should have used up.



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Jared



--

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+1, dump all your remaining Arg pesos at checkout and charge the
remaining balance to your card.

On 3/21/16 11:06 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
> dump all but your airport money on the hotel at checkout
>
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Dear all,

FWIW.
As I cannot attend IETF95 on site, I have just canceled my reservation 
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Best regards, Laurent.

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      FWIW.

      As I cannot attend IETF95 on site, I have just canceled my
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      Best regards, Laurent.
  


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On Mon, 21 Mar 2016, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:

> +1, dump all your remaining Arg pesos at checkout and charge the
> remaining balance to your card.

Your accountants and/or tax offices are clearly nicer then mine.

Paul


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On 03/21/2016 11:24 AM, Fernando Gont wrote:
>
> We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you take credit cards?" 
> beforehand if concerned. Visa and.mc  are accepted 
> everywhere where they accept credit cards. Not sure about amex.
>
> Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos with you. I'd even say 
> no more than 800 pesos. (Sec cons..although pueryo madero is, to a 
> large extent, disneyland)
>

So at ~500p for the taxi, you are pretty much spent out when you get to 
the hotel?

Does the Hilton desk do a good exchange?  Some hotels do, some don't.  I 
would have to slip out of one of the Monday afternoon sessions to find a 
bank for more exchange...

>   --- this is from my long overdue "survival guide to ba" that i hope 
> to publish this week.
>
> El 21/3/2016 15:14, "Jared Mauch"  > escribió:
>
>     On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:04:53AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:
>     > IMF FTW?   Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we will have
>     coming in
>     > is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.  Does the
>     national
>     > bank have branches that are open on the weekend?
>
>             I'll chime in here with a different question:
>
>     What is the prevelance of locations that accept visa/amex vs
>     cash?  My first
>     time traveling to Japan I was advised that most people paid in
>     cash for things
>     so to carry a lot more cash than usual as few locations accepted CC.
>
>             Therefore my concern is just how much "walking around
>     cash" is best for
>     this country where I have not yet been but will be visiting for 10
>     days, and
>     are there enough ATMs about that I can easily obtain additional
>     cash as necessary?
>
>             My damage comes also from Japan where you often have to
>     find the proper
>     venue to use an american issued card.
>
>             Myself, I just use ATM to change money and the only
>     exception was
>     returning from some EU countries that aren't on the Euro and
>     ultimately
>     changed some residual currency back elsewhere.  I do like Randy's
>     keen solution
>     which is to pay part of hotel bill in cash and leave the country
>     with minimal
>     resulting currency.  I keep Yen/Euros as I return often enough,
>     but the 10PLN
>     note on my desk I should have used up.
>
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On 03/21/2016 11:24 AM, Fernando Gont
      wrote:

    

    

      
We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you take
        credit cards?" beforehand if concerned. Visa and.mc are
        accepted everywhere where they accept credit cards. Not sure
        about amex.

      
Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos with
        you. I'd even say no more than 800 pesos. (Sec cons..although
        pueryo madero is, to a large extent, disneyland)

    

    

    So at ~500p for the taxi, you are pretty much spent out when you get
    to the hotel?

    

    Does the Hilton desk do a good exchange?  Some hotels do, some
    don't.  I would have to slip out of one of the Monday afternoon
    sessions to find a bank for more exchange...

    

    

      
  --- this is from my long overdue "survival guide to
        ba" that i hope to publish this week.

      
El 21/3/2016 15:14, "Jared Mauch" <jared@puck.nether.net>
        escribió:

        
On Mon, Mar
          21, 2016 at 10:04:53AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:

          > IMF FTW?   Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we
          will have coming in

          > is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend. 
           Does the national

          > bank have branches that are open on the weekend?

          

                  I'll chime in here with a different question:

          

          What is the prevelance of locations that accept visa/amex vs
          cash?  My first

          time traveling to Japan I was advised that most people paid in
          cash for things

          so to carry a lot more cash than usual as few locations
          accepted CC.

          

                  Therefore my concern is just how much "walking around
          cash" is best for

          this country where I have not yet been but will be visiting
          for 10 days, and

          are there enough ATMs about that I can easily obtain
          additional cash as necessary?

          

                  My damage comes also from Japan where you often have
          to find the proper

          venue to use an american issued card.

          

                  Myself, I just use ATM to change money and the only
          exception was

          returning from some EU countries that aren't on the Euro and
          ultimately

          changed some residual currency back elsewhere.  I do like
          Randy's keen solution

          which is to pay part of hotel bill in cash and leave the
          country with minimal

          resulting currency.  I keep Yen/Euros as I return often
          enough, but the 10PLN

          note on my desk I should have used up.

          

                  - Jared

          

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          statements are only mine.

        

      

      

      

      

      
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>>Could you please let me know the distance between Airport AEP and San martin. How much will the taxi costs. As per below
>>website it is around 60 AED.
>
> As others have noted, if you want to take a taxi, book a "remise" taxi
> at the booth in the airport near the exit from immigration.  The price
> should be about USD 35.  Since currency controls have been removed the price
> in dollars and pesos will be about the same.
>
> If you're staying at the Sheraton, the Manuel Tienda Leon bus is
> nearly as fast since the city bus station is adjacent to the Sheraton.
>

How do you take Manuel Tienda Leon bus, from EZE and from Sheraton?


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you can get the ticket here > http://www.tiendaleon.com/articulo/BEZEMAD/

There is a booth with a lion on its logo right when you go trough customs

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Behcet Sarikaya 
wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:33 AM,   wrote:
> >>Could you please let me know the distance between Airport AEP and San
> martin. How much will the taxi costs. As per below
> >>website it is around 60 AED.
> >
> > As others have noted, if you want to take a taxi, book a "remise" taxi
> > at the booth in the airport near the exit from immigration.  The price
> > should be about USD 35.  Since currency controls have been removed the
> price
> > in dollars and pesos will be about the same.
> >
> > If you're staying at the Sheraton, the Manuel Tienda Leon bus is
> > nearly as fast since the city bus station is adjacent to the Sheraton.
> >
>
> How do you take Manuel Tienda Leon bus, from EZE and from Sheraton?
>
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you can get the ticket here >=C2=A0http://www.t=
iendaleon.com/articulo/BEZEMAD/

There is a boo=
th with a lion on its logo right when you go trough customs

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 1:4=
8 PM, Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 9:33 AM,=C2=A0 <=
;ietf@johnlevine.c=
om> wrote:

>>Could you please let me know the distance between Airport AEP and S=
an martin. How much will the taxi costs. As per below

>>website it is around 60 AED.

>

> As others have noted, if you want to take a taxi, book a "remise&=
quot; taxi

> at the booth in the airport near the exit from immigration.=C2=A0 The =
price

> should be about USD 35.=C2=A0 Since currency controls have been remove=
d the price

> in dollars and pesos will be about the same.

>

> If you're staying at the Sheraton, the Manuel Tienda Leon bus is
> nearly as fast since the city bus station is adjacent to the Sheraton.=


>



How do you take Manuel Tienda Leon bus, from EZE and from Sheraton?





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What I would do:

- exchange 100 usd at the airport (that'll give you around 1400 pesos)
- hire the 'remise', but pay with CC
- check whether the Hilton offers a good rate or not. In any case, 1400
pesos will get you through Monday
- If the rate at the Hilton doesn't work for you, and you need more
cash, you'll have plenty of time before 10am on Tuesday morning to find
a place to change more dollars. No need to miss any sessions.

Again, that is what *I* would do. Your mileage may vary.

-Carlos

On 3/21/16 1:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 03/21/2016 11:24 AM, Fernando Gont wrote:
>>
>> We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you take credit cards?"
>> beforehand if concerned. Visa and.mc  are accepted
>> everywhere where they accept credit cards. Not sure about amex.
>>
>> Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos with you. I'd even say
>> no more than 800 pesos. (Sec cons..although pueryo madero is, to a
>> large extent, disneyland)
>>
>
> So at ~500p for the taxi, you are pretty much spent out when you get
> to the hotel?
>
> Does the Hilton desk do a good exchange?  Some hotels do, some don't. 
> I would have to slip out of one of the Monday afternoon sessions to
> find a bank for more exchange...
>
>>   --- this is from my long overdue "survival guide to ba" that i hope
>> to publish this week.
>>
>> El 21/3/2016 15:14, "Jared Mauch"  escribió:
>>
>>     On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:04:53AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:
>>     > IMF FTW?   Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we will
>>     have coming in
>>     > is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.   Does
>>     the national
>>     > bank have branches that are open on the weekend?
>>
>>             I'll chime in here with a different question:
>>
>>     What is the prevelance of locations that accept visa/amex vs
>>     cash?  My first
>>     time traveling to Japan I was advised that most people paid in
>>     cash for things
>>     so to carry a lot more cash than usual as few locations accepted CC.
>>
>>             Therefore my concern is just how much "walking around
>>     cash" is best for
>>     this country where I have not yet been but will be visiting for
>>     10 days, and
>>     are there enough ATMs about that I can easily obtain additional
>>     cash as necessary?
>>
>>             My damage comes also from Japan where you often have to
>>     find the proper
>>     venue to use an american issued card.
>>
>>             Myself, I just use ATM to change money and the only
>>     exception was
>>     returning from some EU countries that aren't on the Euro and
>>     ultimately
>>     changed some residual currency back elsewhere.  I do like Randy's
>>     keen solution
>>     which is to pay part of hotel bill in cash and leave the country
>>     with minimal
>>     resulting currency.  I keep Yen/Euros as I return often enough,
>>     but the 10PLN
>>     note on my desk I should have used up.
>>
>>             - Jared
>>
>>     --
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>>     jared@puck.nether.net
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    What I would do:

      

      - exchange 100 usd at the airport (that'll give you around 1400
      pesos)

      - hire the 'remise', but pay with CC 

      - check whether the Hilton offers a good rate or not. In any case,
      1400 pesos will get you through Monday

      - If the rate at the Hilton doesn't work for you, and you need
      more cash, you'll have plenty of time before 10am on Tuesday
      morning to find a place to change more dollars. No need to miss
      any sessions.

      

      Again, that is what *I* would do. Your mileage may vary.

      

      -Carlos

    

    
On 3/21/16 1:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz
      wrote:

    

    

      
      

      

      
On 03/21/2016 11:24 AM, Fernando Gont
        wrote:

      

      

        
We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you take
          credit cards?" beforehand if concerned. Visa and.mc are
          accepted everywhere where they accept credit cards. Not sure
          about amex.

        
Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos with
          you. I'd even say no more than 800 pesos. (Sec cons..although
          pueryo madero is, to a large extent, disneyland)

      

      

      So at ~500p for the taxi, you are pretty much spent out when you
      get to the hotel?

      

      Does the Hilton desk do a good exchange?  Some hotels do, some
      don't.  I would have to slip out of one of the Monday afternoon
      sessions to find a bank for more exchange...

      

      

        
  --- this is from my long overdue "survival guide
          to ba" that i hope to publish this week.

        
El 21/3/2016 15:14, "Jared Mauch" <jared@puck.nether.net>

          escribió:

          
On Mon,
            Mar 21, 2016 at 10:04:53AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:

            > IMF FTW?   Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we
            will have coming in

            > is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend. 
             Does the national

            > bank have branches that are open on the weekend?

            

                    I'll chime in here with a different question:

            

            What is the prevelance of locations that accept visa/amex vs
            cash?  My first

            time traveling to Japan I was advised that most people paid
            in cash for things

            so to carry a lot more cash than usual as few locations
            accepted CC.

            

                    Therefore my concern is just how much "walking
            around cash" is best for

            this country where I have not yet been but will be visiting
            for 10 days, and

            are there enough ATMs about that I can easily obtain
            additional cash as necessary?

            

                    My damage comes also from Japan where you often have
            to find the proper

            venue to use an american issued card.

            

                    Myself, I just use ATM to change money and the only
            exception was

            returning from some EU countries that aren't on the Euro and
            ultimately

            changed some residual currency back elsewhere.  I do like
            Randy's keen solution

            which is to pay part of hotel bill in cash and leave the
            country with minimal

            resulting currency.  I keep Yen/Euros as I return often
            enough, but the 10PLN

            note on my desk I should have used up.

            

                    - Jared

            

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            clue++;      | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/  My
            statements are only mine.

          

        

        

        

        

        
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:-)

On 3/21/16 1:00 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2016, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
>
>> +1, dump all your remaining Arg pesos at checkout and charge the
>> remaining balance to your card.
>
> Your accountants and/or tax offices are clearly nicer then mine.
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:57 AM, John R. Levine  wrote:
>>> If you're staying at the Sheraton, the Manuel Tienda Leon bus is
>>> nearly as fast since the city bus station is adjacent to the Sheraton.
>>
>>
>> How do you take Manuel Tienda Leon bus, from EZE and from Sheraton?
>
>
> At the airport, buy a ticket at the kiosk, go to the bus stop, get on the
> bus.
>
> At the hotel, walk to the bus station, buy a ticket, go to the bus stop, get
> on the bus.
>

I am reading online that it is a shuttle bus, that means it stops at
various places? Why doesn't it stop at Hilton?

> R's,
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On 03/21/2016 12:59 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote:
> What I would do:
>
> - exchange 100 usd at the airport (that'll give you around 1400 pesos)
> - hire the 'remise', but pay with CC
> - check whether the Hilton offers a good rate or not. In any case, 
> 1400 pesos will get you through Monday
> - If the rate at the Hilton doesn't work for you, and you need more 
> cash, you'll have plenty of time before 10am on Tuesday morning to 
> find a place to change more dollars. No need to miss any sessions.

Oh, yes.  The 10am morning start. Time to do things...

>
> Again, that is what *I* would do. Your mileage may vary.
>
> -Carlos
>
> On 3/21/16 1:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 03/21/2016 11:24 AM, Fernando Gont wrote:
>>>
>>> We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you take credit cards?" 
>>> beforehand if concerned. Visa and.mc  are accepted 
>>> everywhere where they accept credit cards. Not sure about amex.
>>>
>>> Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos with you. I'd even say 
>>> no more than 800 pesos. (Sec cons..although pueryo madero is, to a 
>>> large extent, disneyland)
>>>
>>
>> So at ~500p for the taxi, you are pretty much spent out when you get 
>> to the hotel?
>>
>> Does the Hilton desk do a good exchange?  Some hotels do, some 
>> don't.  I would have to slip out of one of the Monday afternoon 
>> sessions to find a bank for more exchange...
>>
>>>   --- this is from my long overdue "survival guide to ba" that i 
>>> hope to publish this week.
>>>
>>> El 21/3/2016 15:14, "Jared Mauch"  escribió:
>>>
>>>     On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:04:53AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:
>>>     > IMF FTW?   Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that we will
>>>     have coming in
>>>     > is that I think many of us will arrive on the weekend.   Does
>>>     the national
>>>     > bank have branches that are open on the weekend?
>>>
>>>             I'll chime in here with a different question:
>>>
>>>     What is the prevelance of locations that accept visa/amex vs
>>>     cash?  My first
>>>     time traveling to Japan I was advised that most people paid in
>>>     cash for things
>>>     so to carry a lot more cash than usual as few locations accepted CC.
>>>
>>>             Therefore my concern is just how much "walking around
>>>     cash" is best for
>>>     this country where I have not yet been but will be visiting for
>>>     10 days, and
>>>     are there enough ATMs about that I can easily obtain additional
>>>     cash as necessary?
>>>
>>>             My damage comes also from Japan where you often have to
>>>     find the proper
>>>     venue to use an american issued card.
>>>
>>>             Myself, I just use ATM to change money and the only
>>>     exception was
>>>     returning from some EU countries that aren't on the Euro and
>>>     ultimately
>>>     changed some residual currency back elsewhere.  I do like
>>>     Randy's keen solution
>>>     which is to pay part of hotel bill in cash and leave the country
>>>     with minimal
>>>     resulting currency.  I keep Yen/Euros as I return often enough,
>>>     but the 10PLN
>>>     note on my desk I should have used up.
>>>
>>>             - Jared
>>>
>>>     --
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On 03/21/2016 12:59 PM, Carlos M.
      Martinez wrote:

    

    

      
      What I would do:

        

        - exchange 100 usd at the airport (that'll give you around 1400
        pesos)

        - hire the 'remise', but pay with CC 

        - check whether the Hilton offers a good rate or not. In any
        case, 1400 pesos will get you through Monday

        - If the rate at the Hilton doesn't work for you, and you need
        more cash, you'll have plenty of time before 10am on Tuesday
        morning to find a place to change more dollars. No need to miss
        any sessions.

      

    

    Oh, yes.  The 10am morning start. Time to do things...

    

    

        

        Again, that is what *I* would do. Your mileage may vary.

        

        -Carlos

      

      
On 3/21/16 1:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz
        wrote:

      

      

        
        

        

        
On 03/21/2016 11:24 AM, Fernando
          Gont wrote:

        

        

          
We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you
            take credit cards?" beforehand if concerned. Visa and.mc are
            accepted everywhere where they accept credit cards. Not sure
            about amex.

          
Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos
            with you. I'd even say no more than 800 pesos. (Sec
            cons..although pueryo madero is, to a large extent,
            disneyland)

        

        

        So at ~500p for the taxi, you are pretty much spent out when you
        get to the hotel?

        

        Does the Hilton desk do a good exchange?  Some hotels do, some
        don't.  I would have to slip out of one of the Monday afternoon
        sessions to find a bank for more exchange...

        

        

          
  --- this is from my long overdue "survival
            guide to ba" that i hope to publish this week.

          
El 21/3/2016 15:14, "Jared Mauch"
            <jared@puck.nether.net>


            escribió:

            
On Mon,
              Mar 21, 2016 at 10:04:53AM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote:

              > IMF FTW?   Or not.   Anyway, one of the issues that
              we will have coming in

              > is that I think many of us will arrive on the
              weekend.   Does the national

              > bank have branches that are open on the weekend?

              

                      I'll chime in here with a different question:

              

              What is the prevelance of locations that accept visa/amex
              vs cash?  My first

              time traveling to Japan I was advised that most people
              paid in cash for things

              so to carry a lot more cash than usual as few locations
              accepted CC.

              

                      Therefore my concern is just how much "walking
              around cash" is best for

              this country where I have not yet been but will be
              visiting for 10 days, and

              are there enough ATMs about that I can easily obtain
              additional cash as necessary?

              

                      My damage comes also from Japan where you often
              have to find the proper

              venue to use an american issued card.

              

                      Myself, I just use ATM to change money and the
              only exception was

              returning from some EU countries that aren't on the Euro
              and ultimately

              changed some residual currency back elsewhere.  I do like
              Randy's keen solution

              which is to pay part of hotel bill in cash and leave the
              country with minimal

              resulting currency.  I keep Yen/Euros as I return often
              enough, but the 10PLN

              note on my desk I should have used up.

              

                      - Jared

              

              --

              Jared Mauch  | pgp key available via finger from jared@puck.nether.net

              clue++;      | http://puck.nether.net/~jared/  My
              statements are only mine.

            

          

          

          

          

          
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          C:      248-219-2059

           F:      248-968-2824

           E:      rgm@labs.htt-consult.com

          

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            can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit

        

        

        

        

        
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-- 

      
      Standard
      Robert Moskowitz

      
        Owner

      
        HTT Consulting

      C:      248-219-2059

      
        F:      248-968-2824

      
        E:      rgm@labs.htt-consult.com

      

      
        There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't
        matter who gets the credit

    

  


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>I am reading online that it is a shuttle bus, that means it stops at
>various places? Why doesn't it stop at Hilton?

It's a bus, it goes to the bus station, which by coincidence is near
the Sheraton.  Now you know as much as the rest of us.

For more info, here's its web site:

http://www.tiendaleon.com/articulo/BEZEMAD/

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Is AEP closer to the hotels than EZE?



On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 2:51 AM, Sudhin Jacob  wrote:
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>
> Could you please let me know the distance between Airport AEP and San
> martin. How much will the taxi costs. As per below website it is around 60
> AED.
>
> http://www.toandfromtheairport.com/buenosaires.html
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>> If you're staying at the Sheraton, the Manuel Tienda Leon bus is
>> nearly as fast since the city bus station is adjacent to the Sheraton.
>
> How do you take Manuel Tienda Leon bus, from EZE and from Sheraton?

At the airport, buy a ticket at the kiosk, go to the bus stop, get on the 
bus.

At the hotel, walk to the bus station, buy a ticket, go to the bus stop, 
get on the bus.

R's,


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On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 3:34 PM Behcet Sarikaya 
wrote:

> Is AEP closer to the hotels than EZE?
>

If only there was some sort of Internet connected system which could
determine answers to questions like these...

Oh, hey, there is, someone even sent out a link a short while ago..

AEP - Sheraton:  17min (6.6km) -
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/AEP+-+Avenida+Costanera+Rafael+Obligado,+Bu=
enos+Aires,+Autonomous+City+of+Buenos+Aires,+Argentina/Sheraton+Buenos+Aire=
s+Hotel+%26+Convention+Center,+San+Mart%C3%ADn+1225,+CABA,+Cdad.+Aut%C3%B3n=
oma+de+Buenos+Aires/@-34.575474,-58.4094579,14z/am=3Dt/data=3D!3m1!4b1!4m13=
!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x95bcb5a7f531c7b5:0xfdd992892f9ccadb!2m2!1d-58.4170088!2d-=
34.5580305!1m5!1m1!1s0x95bccab51a122e41:0x2872fc9ac9a5fe37!2m2!1d-58.372356=
8!2d-34.5931091

EZE - Sheraton:  38min (34km) -
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Ezeiza+International+Airport,+Autopista+Tte=
+Gral.+Ricchieri+Km+33,5,+1802+Ezeiza,+Buenos+Aires,+Argentina/Sheraton+Bue=
nos+Aires+Hotel+%26+Convention+Center,+San+Mart%C3%ADn+1225,+CABA,+Cdad.+Au=
t%C3%B3noma+de+Buenos+Aires/@-34.7039499,-58.5251865,12z/am=3Dt/data=3D!3m1=
!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x95bcd0f4e2dea557:0xf19b6f81d441cc3b!2m2!1d-58.53=
48284!2d-34.8150044!1m5!1m1!1s0x95bccab51a122e41:0x2872fc9ac9a5fe37!2m2!1d-=
58.3723568!2d-34.5931091

For completeness:
Sheraton to Hilton:
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Hilton+Buenos+Aires,+Macacha+G%C3%BCemes+35=
1,+C1106BKG+CABA,+Argentina/Sheraton+Buenos+Aires+Hotel+%26+Convention+Cent=
er,+San+Mart%C3%ADn+1225,+CABA,+Cdad.+Aut%C3%B3noma+de+Buenos+Aires/@-34.59=
93693,-58.3722793,16z/data=3D!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x95a3352efafbdba=
d:0x4c667acec90d1c61!2m2!1d-58.3636611!2d-34.6058033!1m5!1m1!1s0x95bccab51a=
122e41:0x2872fc9ac9a5fe37!2m2!1d-58.3723568!2d-34.5931091!3e2

AEP - EXE (because, why not?!):
https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Ezeiza+International+Airport,+Autopista+Tte=
+Gral.+Ricchieri+Km+33,5,+1802+Ezeiza,+Buenos+Aires,+Argentina/AEP,+Avenida=
+Costanera+Rafael+Obligado,+Autonomous+City+of+Buenos+Aires,+Argentina/@-34=
.6747157,-58.6020859,11z/data=3D!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x95bcd0f4e2de=
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7f531c7b5:0xfdd992892f9ccadb!2m2!1d-58.4170088!2d-34.5580305!3e0

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>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 2:51 AM, Sudhin Jacob  wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Could you please let me know the distance between Airport AEP and San
> > martin. How much will the taxi costs. As per below website it is around
> 60
> > AED.
> >
> > http://www.toandfromtheairport.com/buenosaires.html
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sudhin
> >
> >
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On Mon, Mar 21=
, 2016 at 3:34 PM Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> wrote:
Is AEP closer to the hotels than EZE?

If only there was some sort of Internet connected system which could=
 determine answers to questions like these...

Oh, =
hey, there is, someone even sent out a link a short while ago..
<=
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For completeness:=C2=A0
Sheraton to Hilton:
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1,+C1106BKG+CABA,+Argentina/Sheraton+Buenos+Aires+Hotel+%26+Convention+Cent=
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AEP - EXE (because, why not?!):
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 2:51 AM, Sudhin Jacob <sjacob@juniper.net> wrote:

> Hi All,

>

> Could you please let me know the distance between Airport AEP and San<=
br>
> martin. How much will the taxi costs. As per below website it is aroun=
d 60

> AED.

>

> http://www.toandfromtheairport.com/buenosair=
es.html

>

> Regards,

> Sudhin

>

>

> _______________________________________________

> 95attendees mailing list

> 95attendees@=
ietf.org

> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attend=
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In article  you write:
>Is AEP closer to the hotels than EZE?

Yes, but most international flights and all intercontinental flights
go to EZE.

The difference in time and price is unlikely to be significant in the
context of a plane trip and a week in a hotel.



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I believe the shuttle bus is an express -- i.e., it doesn't make any 
stops enroute.

According to Google maps, the walking distance from the shuttle bus 
station (corner of San Martin and Av. Eduardo Madero, opposite the 
Sheraton) to the Hilton is approx 2 KM (1.25 miles) or about 25 minutes.

If you share an airport taxi from the airport with just one other 
person, the effective per-person fare supposedly works out to be about 
the same as it is for the shuttle. In this case, the taxi seems like a 
better deal all around if you're staying at the Hilton.

--Bede

On 3/21/2016 3:24 PM, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
>> I am reading online that it is a shuttle bus, that means it stops at
>> various places? Why doesn't it stop at Hilton?
> It's a bus, it goes to the bus station, which by coincidence is near
> the Sheraton.  Now you know as much as the rest of us.
>
> For more info, here's its web site:
>
> http://www.tiendaleon.com/articulo/BEZEMAD/
>
> R's,
> John
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Manuel Tienda Leon goes straight from the airport toMadero Station (50
meters away from Sheraton Hotel)

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:06 PM, McCall, Bede B.  wrote:

> I believe the shuttle bus is an express -- i.e., it doesn't make any stops
> enroute.
>
> According to Google maps, the walking distance from the shuttle bus
> station (corner of San Martin and Av. Eduardo Madero, opposite the
> Sheraton) to the Hilton is approx 2 KM (1.25 miles) or about 25 minutes.
>
> If you share an airport taxi from the airport with just one other person,
> the effective per-person fare supposedly works out to be about the same as
> it is for the shuttle. In this case, the taxi seems like a better deal all
> around if you're staying at the Hilton.
>
> --Bede
>
> On 3/21/2016 3:24 PM, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
>
>> I am reading online that it is a shuttle bus, that means it stops at
>>> various places? Why doesn't it stop at Hilton?
>>>
>> It's a bus, it goes to the bus station, which by coincidence is near
>> the Sheraton.  Now you know as much as the rest of us.
>>
>> For more info, here's its web site:
>>
>> http://www.tiendaleon.com/articulo/BEZEMAD/
>>
>> R's,
>> John
>>
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>> 95attendees@ietf.org
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Manuel Tienda Leon goes straight from the airport toMadero=
 Station (50 meters away from Sheraton Hotel)

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:06 PM, McCall, =
Bede B. <bede@mitre.org> wrote:
I believe the shuttle bus is an express -- i.e., it doesn't make any=
 stops enroute.



According to Google maps, the walking distance from the shuttle bus station=
 (corner of San Martin and Av. Eduardo Madero, opposite the Sheraton) to th=
e Hilton is approx 2 KM (1.25 miles) or about 25 minutes.



If you share an airport taxi from the airport with just one other person, t=
he effective per-person fare supposedly works out to be about the same as i=
t is for the shuttle. In this case, the taxi seems like a better deal all a=
round if you're staying at the Hilton.



--Bede



On 3/21/2016 3:24 PM, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:



I am reading online that it is a shuttle bus, that means it stops at

various places? Why doesn't it stop at Hilton?



It's a bus, it goes to the bus station, which by coincidence is near
the Sheraton.=C2=A0 Now you know as much as the rest of us.



For more info, here's its web site:



http://www.tiendaleon.com/articulo/BEZEMAD/



R's,

John



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In article <56F01782.4060009@lacnic.net> you write:
>+1, dump all your remaining Arg pesos at checkout and charge the
>remaining balance to your card.

Yes.  If you wait and sell them at the airport you'll get a much worse rate.

Since you asked, the wine in the duty-free is priced in dollars and
they take all known forms of plastic, no need to save pesos for that.
The prices aren't great but if you want to bring home wine and don't
want to put it in your checked bags, it's the only option.

R's,
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> Manuel Tienda Leon goes straight from the airport to Madero Station (50
> meters away from Sheraton Hotel)

so i have to take a train from madero station to the sheraton?

[ sorry, joke from maastrict ietf ]

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On 03/21/2016 10:22 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> Manuel Tienda Leon goes straight from the airport to Madero Station (50
>> meters away from Sheraton Hotel)
> 
> so i have to take a train from madero station to the sheraton?
> 
> [ sorry, joke from maastrict ietf ]

FWIW, I was subscribed to such -attendees list, but didn't attend that
IETF. Years later visited Maastricht... but couldn't figure out what all
the fuss was about... traveling by train in Belgium was pretty easy and
straightforward...


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Maastricht is a city in the Netherlands methinks :-)

On 3/21/16 7:17 PM, Fernando Gont wrote:
> On 03/21/2016 10:22 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> Manuel Tienda Leon goes straight from the airport to Madero Station (50
>>> meters away from Sheraton Hotel)
>> so i have to take a train from madero station to the sheraton?
>>
>> [ sorry, joke from maastrict ietf ]
> FWIW, I was subscribed to such -attendees list, but didn't attend that
> IETF. Years later visited Maastricht... but couldn't figure out what all
> the fuss was about... traveling by train in Belgium was pretty easy and
> straightforward...
>
>


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On 03/21/2016 11:17 PM, Fernando Gont wrote:
> On 03/21/2016 10:22 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> Manuel Tienda Leon goes straight from the airport to Madero Station (50
>>> meters away from Sheraton Hotel)
>>
>> so i have to take a train from madero station to the sheraton?
>>
>> [ sorry, joke from maastrict ietf ]
> 
> FWIW, I was subscribed to such -attendees list, but didn't attend that
> IETF. Years later visited Maastricht... but couldn't figure out what all
> the fuss was about... traveling by train in Belgium was pretty easy and
> straightforward...

[traveling around the area I should have said]


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Hi, my 2 centavos (I'm local from Bs As living abroad since 3 years);

Nowadays (Since 10 Dec 2015) the best rate will got at an ATM, there
are two types (LINK=Maestro, and Banelco).

As Fernando mentioned the Banco Nacion will be probably the best rate.
The ATM will not display the exchange rate. Currently we are at 1 USD
~ 14.50 ARS (Last week its was like 15.50.. Its very volatile, but can
be estimated between 14-16 )

If you bring cash, US Dollars got a better rate than EUROS in most
banks and exchange houses.

You can exchange currency in any bank (though queues can be long, and
banks dont open on saturday, on weekdays open 10h00 and close at 15h00
, dont close at midday).
Do not change in the black market as mentioned, no need to.

In commerces: Always ask if they accept credit cards (and try to pay
with ccard), most restaurants do; but local (not tourist restaurants
or pubs) don't.  We normally tip in restaurants/pubs.


To travel inside buenos aires (metro and bus) you will need a
transport card called "Sube" (https://www.sube.gob.ar/ ) Im not sure
if in Ezeiza you have a stand to buy it, I think I saw one last time,
but if not in subways station you will be able to get it. We dont'
normally speak english, so you will have to learn some basic spanish.
Then you can charge the Sube it with cash on the subway stations;
subway/metro is 5pesos (0.30 usd), and bus 2.50 (0.15). Train even
cheaper, but probably you won't take the train. Metro closes early at
around 22:30, but buses run all night long. We love (and hate) buses,
there are more than a hundrer lines, I recomend you to use this site
to find wich line to take to your destination:


https://mapa.buenosaires.gob.ar/

Ok I deviated form the currency subject,

Have a good day!

Renzo







On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 5:13 PM,   wrote:
> In article <56F01782.4060009@lacnic.net> you write:
>>+1, dump all your remaining Arg pesos at checkout and charge the
>>remaining balance to your card.
>
> Yes.  If you wait and sell them at the airport you'll get a much worse rate.
>
> Since you asked, the wine in the duty-free is priced in dollars and
> they take all known forms of plastic, no need to save pesos for that.
> The prices aren't great but if you want to bring home wine and don't
> want to put it in your checked bags, it's the only option.
>
> R's,
> John
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Hi!

Some musical tips in Buenos Aires,

If you like classical music, or architecture, visiting the Teatro
Col=C3=B3n is something to do

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teatro_Col%C3%B3n
* http://www.teatrocolon.org.ar/en/calendario/2016-04
* Tikets: https://www.tuentrada.com/colon/Online/default.asp

You can also do a guided visit "Visitas Guiadas", to know the place,
but its from 10 am to 5pm (The ticket says 19hs, but the information
on the page says until 17hs.. odd).

Centro Cultural Kirncher, is a new place -not far away from hilton-
also with an astonishing concert room, you can visit it too (for
free): https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=3Dauto&tl=3Den&js=3Dy&prev=
=3D_t&hl=3Den&ie=3DUTF-8&u=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.culturalkirchner.gob.ar%2Fwww=
%2F548%2F22595%2Fvisitas-guiadas.html&edit-text=3D&act=3Durl



Then for Tango, I would recommend going to "La viruta" either to
listen some live music or to learn some basic Tango and have fun:
http://lavirutatango.com/english_version/

That zone ( 1366, Armenia street, Palermo neigborhood ) is pub
friendly so its good to go for something to eat + drink.

The neigborhood of San Telmo is well known for tango too. San Telmo
(and La Boca) zones can be dangerous at nigh, just be careful at
night, try to take a cab. There is a popular cellphone appication
(I've never used it, but seen people do and seems to work fine) to ask
for a taxi from your cellphone:

EasyTaxi:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dbr.com.easytaxi&hl=3Den
(iOS and Windows phone too)


To find a place to eat/drink, the locals use Guia Oleo (more than tripadvis=
or):

http://www.guiaoleo.com.ar/


You will have to try the "Asado" (barbecue), or steaks, and the
Chorizo/Choripan (Sausage), If you read on the menu something called
"Molleja" (or "Chinchulin".. cheaper) Try it!.

"Empanadas" is a tipical food, comes in different flavours, Meat
empanadas, goes well with red wine (Malbec).


Also the Pizza with tons of mozzarella is something to try. Local
popular Beer "Quilmes" its not so good -it's light-, but Its worth a
try.


Cheers!


Renzo


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All, thanks for the the helpful advice - much appreciated!
Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: Fernando Gont [mailto:fgont@si6networks.com]=20
Sent: 22 March 2016 00:43
To: Robert Moskowitz; Jared Mauch
Cc: Warren Kumari; Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group; Ted Lemon; Carlos M.=
 Martinez; 95attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [95attendees] Recommended currency

On 03/21/2016 05:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

>>
>> We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you take credit cards?"
>> beforehand if concerned. Visa and.mc  are accepted=20
>> everywhere where they accept credit cards. Not sure about amex.
>>
>> Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos with you. I'd even say=20
>> no more than 800 pesos. (Sec cons..although pueryo madero is, to a=20
>> large extent, disneyland)
>>
>=20
> So at ~500p for the taxi, you are pretty much spent out when you get=20
> to the hotel?

I meant 1K when you'e around the city, assuming that you may e.g. have dinn=
er, but not go shopping, etc.



> Does the Hilton desk do a good exchange?  Some hotels do, some don't.=20

I wouldn't expect them to have a good rate. They are a pricey hotel, and ha=
ving them exchange money is handy for you -- hence the combination is unlik=
ely to result in "good exchange rate" :-)


> I
> would have to slip out of one of the Monday afternoon sessions to find=20
> a bank for more exchange...

My suggestion: Change enough money (more than 1K) at the airport.  Keep eno=
ugh in your pocket, and the rest in the hotel safe. If you change more than=
 necessary, you can buy your USD back.

--
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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On 03/21/2016 06:17 PM, Fernando Gont wrote:
> On 03/21/2016 10:22 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> Manuel Tienda Leon goes straight from the airport to Madero Station (50
>>> meters away from Sheraton Hotel)
>> so i have to take a train from madero station to the sheraton?
>>
>> [ sorry, joke from maastrict ietf ]
> FWIW, I was subscribed to such -attendees list, but didn't attend that
> IETF. Years later visited Maastricht... but couldn't figure out what all
> the fuss was about... traveling by train in Belgium was pretty easy and
> straightforward...

Except I was pickpocketed in Brussels train station on my way first to a 
meeting at Aachen.  Someone else had their backpack opened in Schipol.  
No problem going back to Amsterdam other than a fast train change in 
Utrecht.



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All,
We will again be having our popular Speed Mentoring events in Buenos Aires.=
 =C2=A0This event is open to attendees who have participated in fewer than =
5 IETF meetings live. =C2=A0 (If you have attended more but wish to be cons=
idered for the mentoring program, please email me unicast at=C2=A0nalini.el=
kins@insidethestack.com=C2=A0& we can discuss.)
The events are scheduled for Sunday, April 3 at noon and Monday, April 4 at=
 8:30am.

You may sign up by filling out the form at:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/XBWQWPW
These events fill up quickly. =C2=A0We accept only 15 mentees for each time=
 slot. =C2=A0We still have a few slots open. =C2=A0We have tripled our capa=
city since last time, so hopefully, more people can be served. =C2=A0We wil=
l have a waiting list. =C2=A0


The event operates as follows:=C2=A0
----------------------------------------=C2=A0

We will have 15 mentees and 15 mentors (experienced IETF contributors) in e=
ach session. Each mentee will talk to a mentor for 5 minutes. Then, the coo=
rdinator will announce "Switch". The mentee will then rotate to a new posit=
ion.=C2=A0

The goal of the event is to help to quickly build the mentee's network of c=
ontacts within the IETF.=C2=A0

The more people you know and feel comfortable talking with, the smoother yo=
ur experience at the IETF will be. For example, if you are at a session and=
 do not understand what is going on, you may now already know someone you m=
ay question. If you have a draft underway, you may ask advice of these peop=
le. If you want to know how to best contribute, you have people you may go =
to.=C2=A0

During the Speed Mentoring session, mentees may talk to mentors about speci=
fic RFCs or drafts that the mentor has authored or co-authored.=C2=A0

Alternatively, you have some suggested questions below, or, of course, you =
may improvise:=C2=A0

1. What do you feel is your most important contribution to the IETF?=C2=A0
2. What is the most important thing that I should know about the IETF?=C2=
=A0
3. Why is the IETF important? Why have you spent so much of your time willi=
ngly contributing to it.=C2=A0

=C2=A0
Thanks,

Nalini ElkinsIETF Mentoring Team
CEO and FounderInside Products, Inc.
www.insidethestack.com
(831) 659-8360
=C2=A0

  
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All,

We will again be having our popular Speed Mentorin=
g events in Buenos Aires.  This event is open to attendees who have pa=
rticipated in fewer than 5 IETF meetings live.   (If you have attended=
 more but wish to be considered for the mentoring program, please email me =
unicast at nalini.elki=
ns@insidethestack.com & we can discuss.)
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The events are schedul=
ed for Sunday, April 3 at noon and Monday, April 4 at 8:30am.

You may sign up by filling out the form =
at:

These events fill up quickly=
.  We accept only 15 mentees for each time slot.  We still have a=
 few slots open.  We have tripled our capacity since last time, so hop=
efully, more people can be served.  We will have a waiting list.  =
;


The event o=
perates as follows: 
-----------------------------=
----------- 

We will have 15 =
mentees and 15 mentors (experienced IETF contributors) in each session. Eac=
h mentee will talk to a mentor for 5 minutes. Then, the coordinator will an=
nounce "Switch". The mentee will then rotate to a new position. 

The goal of the event is to help to qui=
ckly build the mentee's network of contacts within the IETF. 

The more people you know and feel comforta=
ble talking with, the smoother your experience at the IETF will be. For exa=
mple, if you are at a session and do not understand what is going on, you m=
ay now already know someone you may question. If you have a draft underway,=
 you may ask advice of these people. If you want to know how to best contri=
bute, you have people you may go to. 

During the Speed Mentoring session, mentees may talk to mentors ab=
out specific RFCs or drafts that the mentor has authored or co-authored.&nb=
sp;

Alternatively, you have some s=
uggested questions below, or, of course, you may improvise: 

1. What do you feel is your most important=
 contribution to the IETF? 
2. What is the most im=
portant thing that I should know about the IETF? 
=
3. Why is the IETF important? Why have you spent so much of your time willi=
ngly contributing to it. 

 
Thanks,

Nalini Elkins
IETF Mentoring Team

CEO and Founder
Inside Products, Inc.
www.i=
nsidethestack.com
(831) 659-8360
=
 


 
 
  

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Centro Cultural Kirchner was closed=2C around 2015's end=2C or early 2016.
Regards.

> Centro Cultural Kirncher=2C is a new place -not far away from hilton-> al=
so with an astonishing concert room=2C you can visit it too (for> free): ht=
tps://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=3Dauto&tl=3Den&js=3Dy&prev=3D_t&hl=
=3Den&ie=3DUTF-8&u=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.culturalkirchner.gob.ar%2Fwww%2F548%2=
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> From: renzoefra@gmail.com
> Date: Tue=2C 22 Mar 2016 12:05:06 +0100
> To: 95attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: [95attendees] [Tourist Tips] Music (and Food) in Bs As
>=20
> Hi!
>=20
> Some musical tips in Buenos Aires=2C
>=20
> If you like classical music=2C or architecture=2C visiting the Teatro
> Col=F3n is something to do
>=20
> * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teatro_Col%C3%B3n
> * http://www.teatrocolon.org.ar/en/calendario/2016-04
> * Tikets: https://www.tuentrada.com/colon/Online/default.asp
>=20
> You can also do a guided visit "Visitas Guiadas"=2C to know the place=2C
> but its from 10 am to 5pm (The ticket says 19hs=2C but the information
> on the page says until 17hs.. odd).
>=20
> Centro Cultural Kirncher=2C is a new place -not far away from hilton-
> also with an astonishing concert room=2C you can visit it too (for
> free): https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=3Dauto&tl=3Den&js=3Dy&pre=
v=3D_t&hl=3Den&ie=3DUTF-8&u=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.culturalkirchner.gob.ar%2Fww=
w%2F548%2F22595%2Fvisitas-guiadas.html&edit-text=3D&act=3Durl
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Then for Tango=2C I would recommend going to "La viruta" either to
> listen some live music or to learn some basic Tango and have fun:
> http://lavirutatango.com/english_version/
>=20
> That zone ( 1366=2C Armenia street=2C Palermo neigborhood ) is pub
> friendly so its good to go for something to eat + drink.
>=20
> The neigborhood of San Telmo is well known for tango too. San Telmo
> (and La Boca) zones can be dangerous at nigh=2C just be careful at
> night=2C try to take a cab. There is a popular cellphone appication
> (I've never used it=2C but seen people do and seems to work fine) to ask
> for a taxi from your cellphone:
>=20
> EasyTaxi:
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dbr.com.easytaxi&hl=3Den
> (iOS and Windows phone too)
>=20
>=20
> To find a place to eat/drink=2C the locals use Guia Oleo (more than tripa=
dvisor):
>=20
> http://www.guiaoleo.com.ar/
>=20
>=20
> You will have to try the "Asado" (barbecue)=2C or steaks=2C and the
> Chorizo/Choripan (Sausage)=2C If you read on the menu something called
> "Molleja" (or "Chinchulin".. cheaper) Try it!.
>=20
> "Empanadas" is a tipical food=2C comes in different flavours=2C Meat
> empanadas=2C goes well with red wine (Malbec).
>=20
>=20
> Also the Pizza with tons of mozzarella is something to try. Local
> popular Beer "Quilmes" its not so good -it's light-=2C but Its worth a
> try.
>=20
>=20
> Cheers!
>=20
>=20
> Renzo
>=20
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Cen=
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Regards.


>=
=3B Centro Cultural Kirncher=2C is a new place -not far away from hilton-
>=3B also with an astonishing concert room=2C you can visit it t=
oo (for
>=3B free): https://translate.google.fr/translate?sl=3D=
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>=3B From: renzoefra@gmail.com
>=3B Date: Tue=
=2C 22 Mar 2016 12:05:06 +0100
>=3B To: 95attendees@ietf.org
>=3B=
 Subject: [95attendees] [Tourist Tips] Music (and Food) in Bs As
>=3B =

>=3B Hi!
>=3B 
>=3B Some musical tips in Buenos Aires=2C>=3B 
>=3B If you like classical music=2C or architecture=2C visiti=
ng the Teatro
>=3B Col=F3n is something to do
>=3B 
>=3B * h=
ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teatro_Col%C3%B3n
>=3B * http://www.teatr=
ocolon.org.ar/en/calendario/2016-04
>=3B * Tikets: https://www.tuentra=
da.com/colon/Online/default.asp
>=3B 
>=3B You can also do a guid=
ed visit "Visitas Guiadas"=2C to know the place=2C
>=3B but its from 1=
0 am to 5pm (The ticket says 19hs=2C but the information
>=3B on the p=
age says until 17hs.. odd).
>=3B 
>=3B Centro Cultural Kirncher=
=2C is a new place -not far away from hilton-
>=3B also with an astoni=
shing concert room=2C you can visit it too (for
>=3B free): https://tr=
anslate.google.fr/translate?sl=3Dauto&=3Btl=3Den&=3Bjs=3Dy&=3Bprev=
=3D_t&=3Bhl=3Den&=3Bie=3DUTF-8&=3Bu=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.culturalkir=
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amp=3Bact=3Durl
>=3B 
>=3B 
>=3B 
>=3B Then for Tango=
=2C I would recommend going to "La viruta" either to
>=3B listen some =
live music or to learn some basic Tango and have fun:
>=3B http://lavi=
rutatango.com/english_version/
>=3B 
>=3B That zone ( 1366=2C Arm=
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>=3B friendly so its good =
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>=3B 
>=3B The neigborhood of=
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>=3B (and La Boca) z=
ones can be dangerous at nigh=2C just be careful at
>=3B night=2C try =
to take a cab. There is a popular cellphone appication
>=3B (I've neve=
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>=3B EasyTaxi:
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s://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=3Dbr.com.easytaxi&=3Bhl=3Den>=3B (iOS and Windows phone too)
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>=3B To fin=
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>=3B 
>=3B 
=
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>=3B "Molleja" (or "Chinchulin".. cheaper) Try it!.
>=3B >=3B "Empanadas" is a tipical food=2C comes in different flavours=2C Me=
at
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>=3B 
&=
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>=3B Also the Pizza with tons of mozzarella is something to try=
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Hi,

I just realized that there's a one chance in life to experience the 
Superclásico live when River Plata plays against Boca Junior at 6th of 
March.

Is it even possible to get tickets? Where to start looking?

frodek


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Sorry. Wrong month... Note to myself, careful and check facts when jet 
lagged....

Anyway, as a Boca fan, I would like to try to get ticket for Boca vs A. 
Rafaela 3rd of April or Boca vs Bolivar 7th of April. Any tips for this?

frodek
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>
> frodek
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HI,

As this may be my only chance to see some live Argentinian football, I'm lo=
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dores match on the Wednesday, or Boca vs Atl=E9tico Rafaela in the Primera =
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Many thanks!
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HI, 


 


As this may be my only chance to see some live Argen=
tinian football, I’m looking at attending either River Plate vs. The =
Strongest in the Copa Libertadores match on the Wednesday, or Boca vs Atl=
=E9tico Rafaela in the Primera Divisi=F3n on the
 Sunday. Please can any BA locals provide tips on getting tickets for these=
 members-only clubs?


 


Many than=
ks!


Kevin


 






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On 03/21/2016 05:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

>>
>> We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you take credit cards?"
>> beforehand if concerned. Visa and.mc  are accepted
>> everywhere where they accept credit cards. Not sure about amex.
>>
>> Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos with you. I'd even say
>> no more than 800 pesos. (Sec cons..although pueryo madero is, to a
>> large extent, disneyland)
>>
> 
> So at ~500p for the taxi, you are pretty much spent out when you get to
> the hotel?

I meant 1K when you'e around the city, assuming that you may e.g. have
dinner, but not go shopping, etc.



> Does the Hilton desk do a good exchange?  Some hotels do, some don't. 

I wouldn't expect them to have a good rate. They are a pricey hotel, and
having them exchange money is handy for you -- hence the combination is
unlikely to result in "good exchange rate" :-)


> I
> would have to slip out of one of the Monday afternoon sessions to find a
> bank for more exchange...

My suggestion: Change enough money (more than 1K) at the airport.  Keep
enough in your pocket, and the rest in the hotel safe. If you change
more than necessary, you can buy your USD back.

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Agree and thanks. I updated the wiki so it can be a resource for others: ht=
tps://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/doku.php?id=3Dietf95&#atms=
_money_conversion

I also added https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/doku.php?id=
=3Dietf95&#recent_political_events since this is really at the root of why =
we can now use the ATM rather than the dolar blue / black market.

As always, feel free to keep updating the wiki! The more information, the g=
reater the value. :-)

- Jason

On 3/22/16, 8:43 AM, "95attendees on behalf of Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone=
 Group" <95attendees-bounces@ietf.org =
on behalf of Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com> wro=
te:

All, thanks for the the helpful advice - much appreciated!
Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: Fernando Gont [mailto:fgont@si6networks.com]
Sent: 22 March 2016 00:43
To: Robert Moskowitz; Jared Mauch
Cc: Warren Kumari; Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group; Ted Lemon; Carlos M.=
 Martinez; 95attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [95attendees] Recommended currency

On 03/21/2016 05:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you take credit cards?"
beforehand if concerned. Visa and.mc  are accepted
everywhere where they accept credit cards. Not sure about amex.

Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos with you. I'd even say
no more than 800 pesos. (Sec cons..although pueryo madero is, to a
large extent, disneyland)

So at ~500p for the taxi, you are pretty much spent out when you get
to the hotel?

I meant 1K when you'e around the city, assuming that you may e.g. have dinn=
er, but not go shopping, etc.



Does the Hilton desk do a good exchange?  Some hotels do, some don't.

I wouldn't expect them to have a good rate. They are a pricey hotel, and ha=
ving them exchange money is handy for you -- hence the combination is unlik=
ely to result in "good exchange rate" :-)


I
would have to slip out of one of the Monday afternoon sessions to find
a bank for more exchange...

My suggestion: Change enough money (more than 1K) at the airport.  Keep eno=
ugh in your pocket, and the rest in the hotel safe. If you change more than=
 necessary, you can buy your USD back.

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Agree and thanks. I updated the wiki=
 so it can be a resource for others: https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/doku.php?=
id=3Dietf95&#atms_money_conversion









I also added https://www.ie=
tf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/doku.php?id=3Dietf95&#recent_polit=
ical_events since this is really at the root of
 why we can now use the ATM rather than the dolar blue / black market.






As always, feel free to keep updating the wiki! The more information, =
the greater the value. :-)







- Jason







On 3/22/1=
6, 8:43 AM, "95attendees on behalf of Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone=
 Group" <95attendee=
s-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of
Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com>=
; wrote:









All, thanks for the the helpful advice - much appreciated!


Kevin












-----Original Message-----


From: Fernando Gont [mailto:f=
gont@si6networks.com]



Sent: 22 March 2016 00:43


To: Robert Moskowitz; Jared Mauch


Cc: Warren Kumari; Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group; Ted Lemon; =
Carlos M. Martinez;
95attendees@ietf.org


Subject: Re: [95attendees] Recommended currency







On 03/21/2016 05:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
















We pay mostly in cash. -- hence i ask "do you take credit cards?&=
quot;


beforehand if concerned. Visa and.mc <htt=
p://and.mc> are accepted



everywhere where they accept credit cards. Not sure about amex.







Regarding cash, never take more than 1K pesos with you. I'd even say <=
/div>

no more than 800 pesos. (Sec cons..although pueryo madero is, to a 

large extent, disneyland)











So at ~500p for the taxi, you are pretty much spent out when you get <=
/div>

to the hotel?









I meant 1K when you'e around the city, assuming that you may e.g. have=
 dinner, but not go shopping, etc.



















Does the Hilton desk do a good exchange?  Some hotels do, so=
me don't. 









I wouldn't expect them to have a good rate. They are a pricey hotel, a=
nd having them exchange money is handy for you -- hence the combination is =
unlikely to result in "good exchange rate" :-)














I


would have to slip out of one of the Monday afternoon sessions to find=
 


a bank for more exchange...









My suggestion: Change enough money (more than 1K) at the airport. =
; Keep enough in your pocket, and the rest in the hotel safe. If you c=
hange more than necessary, you can buy your USD back.







--


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SI6 Networks



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Any advice on getting SIMs in Argentina?

When I was there last year for ICANN, we went into one of the 25hrs
stores on Florida and bought Personal SIM packs.  All the SIMs are
full sized so it's lucky one of us brought a SIM cutter to chop it
down to nano size.  There are reverse vending machines in the same
stores where you can buy credit, punch in your phone number, then feed
in cash.

Has anything changed, e.g., now that there's only one exchange rate,
can you buy time with a foreign credit card?

Better suggestions on where to get a SIM?  Are the deals at the
carriers' own stores any better?


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The customary reference is

http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/Argentina

Not encouraging.

(But then folk wisdom has that you shouldn=E2=80=99t bring an iPhone as t=
hat will be robbed from you immediately.
My burner phones still have 2=46=46 Mini-SIMs=E2=80=A6
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber=5Fidentity=5Fmodule=232=46=46
Now which of these has GSM 850...)

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten

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I live here in Argentina and I'm a teacher.
It's a very important and genuine protest and is expected to be peaceful.

Salaries have dropped at least 50% due to inflation and devaluation and
increments are told to be at most 25%.
Nothing to worry about. Perhaps some traffic jams, but there are subways,
etc.
More information (in spanish)
http://www.eldestapeweb.com/docentes-amenazan-un-paro-nacional-el-4-abril-n15853
Regards


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>>> Interesting. When was that/which IETF #?
>>>
>>> IETF 56, March 2003, downtown San Francisco. The protests were in
>> opposition to the US invasion of Iraq, which began while we were there.
>>
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> Of course it is better to watch the Martin Luther parades in Atlanta
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On 03/23/2016 09:38 AM, Alexis Tcach wrote:
> I live here in Argentina and I'm a teacher.
> It's a very important and genuine protest and is expected to be peaceful.

We did not intent to belittle the issue nor the protest.  In some areas 
of the US, teacher salaries have take a plunge, perhaps not 50%, due to 
real wages cuts and loss of benefits and extras (special programs and such).

It is hard to see how to lift up a lot with the some many factors at 
play.  Thus we stay with what we do.

>
> Salaries have dropped at least 50% due to inflation and devaluation 
> and increments are told to be at most 25%.
> Nothing to worry about. Perhaps some traffic jams, but there are 
> subways, etc.
> More information (in spanish) 
> http://www.eldestapeweb.com/docentes-amenazan-un-paro-nacional-el-4-abril-n15853
> Regards
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz 
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>     On 03/22/2016 06:43 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote:
>
>             On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Sean Leonard
>             > wrote:
>
>             Interesting. When was that/which IETF #?
>
>         IETF 56, March 2003, downtown San Francisco. The protests were
>         in opposition to the US invasion of Iraq, which began while we
>         were there.
>
>
>     Of course it is better to watch the Martin Luther parades in
>     Atlanta during IEEE 802 wireless meetings.  Been a few times there
>     at the Hyatt...
>
>
>
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On 03/23/2016 09:38 AM, Alexis Tcach
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I live here in Argentina and I'm a teacher. 

        It's a very important and genuine protest and is expected to be
        peaceful.

      

    

    

    We did not intent to belittle the issue nor the protest.  In some
    areas of the US, teacher salaries have take a plunge, perhaps not
    50%, due to real wages cuts and loss of benefits and extras (special
    programs and such).

    

    It is hard to see how to lift up a lot with the some many factors at
    play.  Thus we stay with what we do.

    

    

      
      


        
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Robert
          Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
          wrote:

          


              

              On 03/22/2016 06:43 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote:

            
              

                

                  On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Sean Leonard <dev+ietf@seantek.com>
                  wrote:

                  

                  Interesting. When was that/which IETF #?

                  

                

                IETF 56, March 2003, downtown San Francisco. The
                protests were in opposition to the US invasion of Iraq,
                which began while we were there.

              

              

            
            Of course it is better to watch the Martin Luther parades in
            Atlanta during IEEE 802 wireless meetings.  Been a few times
            there at the Hyatt...
            

              


                

                

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I added my experience on prepaid SIM cards in the wiki,
https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf95#cellphones_data=


On 3/22/16 2:16 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> The customary reference is
>
> http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/Argentina
>
> Not encouraging.
Other than the sadly high market concentration, I fail to see why this
is not encouraging. Check my notes in the wiki. Except for the fact that
you will have to master two or three words in Spanish, which you can
take in written form on a post it note if you really need to, it'll be
really easy and cheap to get mobile data in Buenos Aires.

I can write these post-it notes to all who needs them for free :-)
>
> (But then folk wisdom has that you shouldn=92t bring an iPhone as that
> will be robbed from you immediately.
Not sure where this 'folk wisdom' comes from. My iPhone 6plus has
traveled with me to Argentina many times and is still happily with me.

Saludos,

-Carlos


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    I added my experience on prepaid SIM cards in the wiki,
https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/ietf95#cellphones_data

    

    
On 3/22/16 2:16 PM, Carsten Bormann
      wrote:

    

    

      
      
The customary
        reference is

      


      

      
    

    Other than the sadly high market concentration, I fail to see why
    this is not encouraging. Check my notes in the wiki. Except for the
    fact that you will have to master two or three words in Spanish,
    which you can take in written form on a post it note if you really
    need to, it'll be really easy and cheap to get mobile data in Buenos
    Aires.

    

    I can write these post-it notes to all who needs them for free :-)

    

      

        


        

        
(But then folk wisdom has that you shouldn’t bring an
          iPhone as that will be robbed from you immediately.

      

    

    Not sure where this 'folk wisdom' comes from. My iPhone 6plus has
    traveled with me to Argentina many times and is still happily with
    me. 

    

    Saludos,

    

    -Carlos

    

  


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Hi Carlos,

>> http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/Argentina
>>
>> Not encouraging.
> Other than the sadly high market concentration, I fail to see why this
> is not encouraging. Check my notes in the wiki. Except for the fact that
> you will have to master two or three words in Spanish, which you can
> take in written form on a post it note if you really need to, it'll be
> really easy and cheap to get mobile data in Buenos Aires.

OK, that is a much better outlook than the information on wikia.
(Maybe I'm just not used to think in Megabytes anymore when it comes to
smartphone tariffs.  USD10/GB is fine.)

> I can write these post-it notes to all who needs them for free :-)

Maybe you could write those words into the wiki as well so we can print
it out and don't have to bother you?

>> (But then folk wisdom has that you shouldn’t bring an iPhone as that
>> will be robbed from you immediately.
> Not sure where this 'folk wisdom' comes from. My iPhone 6plus has
> traveled with me to Argentina many times and is still happily with me.

You are probably more street-wise than the Americans which are said to
have their iPhones regularly taken from them...

Grüße, Carsten


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> Right, well, since there is no contract, and depending on how often
> you travel, this service is perfect for International Roaming, not
> (necessarily) domestic use.

Depends where you go.  These days it's remarkably easy to get cheap local 
SIMs most places.  I was in Vienna two weeks ago, prepaid SIM was €15 for 
a bucket of way more minutes, texts, and data than I'd ever use, and I had 
a local number which was handy for restaurant reservations.  In Yokohama I 
got a $30 data-only SIM (it being Japan) which worked pretty well with a 
VoIP app.

For people calling me, for the most part I'd rather not have random 
people calling my office number ring me at odd hours in odd countries.  I 
get voicemails as e-mail attachments so I can call them back.

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>You are probably more street-wise than the Americans which are said to
>have their iPhones regularly taken from them...

I wandered around B.A. a fair amount during last year's ICANN meeting
and didn't find it particularly scary.  Admittedly I'm a large white
guy, but there were plenty of people walking around who weren't and
they seemed fine, too.

It may have been worse in the past, like the time that Argentina
dropped dollar parity and all of a sudden pesos that were worth $1.00
were now worth about 33c.

R's,
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Adding to what John mentions, bear in mind that the area around the
Sheraton Retiro (the ICANN meeting's venue) is generally worse than the
area around the Hilton.

On 3/23/16 1:00 PM, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
>> You are probably more street-wise than the Americans which are said to
>> have their iPhones regularly taken from them...
> I wandered around B.A. a fair amount during last year's ICANN meeting
> and didn't find it particularly scary.  Admittedly I'm a large white
> guy, but there were plenty of people walking around who weren't and
> they seemed fine, too.
>
> It may have been worse in the past, like the time that Argentina
> dropped dollar parity and all of a sudden pesos that were worth $1.00
> were now worth about 33c.
>
> R's,
> John
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Hello Carsten,

On 3/23/16 12:28 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Hi Carlos,
>
> OK, that is a much better outlook than the information on wikia.
> (Maybe I'm just not used to think in Megabytes anymore when it comes
> to smartphone tariffs. USD10/GB is fine.)=20
Yes, me neither. But all big three operators send these stupid SMS
messages every 30 or 50 megs. Next week in BA I'll try to create an
IFTTT recipe to automatically send the required response.

I'm also looking at a new MVNO called "Tuenti" which offers 1.5GB for 90
pesos, but apparently you have to order the SIM card online and have it
delivered to a postal address in Argentina, plus all the website and
related information is in Spanish. You can check www.tuenti.com.ar. Not
sure if the Hilton address will work.
>> I can write these post-it notes to all who needs them for free :-)
> Maybe you could write those words into the wiki as well so we can print=

> it out and don't have to bother you?
Sure! :-)

Buy a sim: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q5o7yb5gm7ztyoy/compra%20sim_1.jpg?d=
l=3D0
(be sure to strike off the sim size you don't need)

Recharge:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jsox4tl8zgvq98p/compra%20recarga%20sim_1.jpg?dl=
=3D0
(you'll either be asked for your mobile number -electronic topup-, or
you will be offered a physical card with a pin number)

I'll add this to the wiki.
> ... snip ...
> You are probably more street-wise than the Americans which are said to
> have their iPhones regularly taken from them...
I understand. Just don't do anything silly, like flashing off an iPhone
or counting 100 dollar bills on the street at night and you'll be fine,
particularly in the neighborhood of the Hilton and around Puerto Madero.
I think this applies to almost every city, although it's true that
first-time visitors may not be familiar with which parts of town are
safer than others.

Saludos,

-Carlos


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Gotta go with Bob on this, Alexis (as I usually do). The risk of 
violence has no doubt been blown out of proportion by the reporting and 
the cause isn't in question. My 'Old Man' was a teacher for years and 
certainly didn't get rich from it.

--Bede

On 3/23/2016 10:18 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
> On 03/23/2016 09:38 AM, Alexis Tcach wrote:
>> I live here in Argentina and I'm a teacher.
>> It's a very important and genuine protest and is expected to be peaceful.
>
> We did not intent to belittle the issue nor the protest.  In some 
> areas of the US, teacher salaries have take a plunge, perhaps not 50%, 
> due to real wages cuts and loss of benefits and extras (special 
> programs and such).
>
> It is hard to see how to lift up a lot with the some many factors at 
> play.  Thus we stay with what we do.
>
>>
>> Salaries have dropped at least 50% due to inflation and devaluation 
>> and increments are told to be at most 25%.
>> Nothing to worry about. Perhaps some traffic jams, but there are 
>> subways, etc.
>> More information (in spanish) 
>> http://www.eldestapeweb.com/docentes-amenazan-un-paro-nacional-el-4-abril-n15853
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 03/22/2016 06:43 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote:
>>
>>             On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Sean Leonard
>>              wrote:
>>
>>             Interesting. When was that/which IETF #?
>>
>>         IETF 56, March 2003, downtown San Francisco. The protests
>>         were in opposition to the US invasion of Iraq, which began
>>         while we were there.
>>
>>
>>     Of course it is better to watch the Martin Luther parades in
>>     Atlanta during IEEE 802 wireless meetings. Been a few times there
>>     at the Hyatt...
>>
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    Gotta go with Bob on this, Alexis (as I usually do). The risk of
    violence has no doubt been blown out of proportion by the reporting
    and the cause isn't in question. My 'Old Man' was a teacher for
    years and certainly didn't get rich from it.

    

    --Bede

    

    
On 3/23/2016 10:18 AM, Robert Moskowitz
      wrote:

    

    

      
      

      
On 03/23/2016 09:38 AM, Alexis Tcach
        wrote:

      

      

        
I live here in Argentina and I'm a teacher. 

          It's a very important and genuine protest and is expected to
          be peaceful.

        

      

      

      We did not intent to belittle the issue nor the protest.  In some
      areas of the US, teacher salaries have take a plunge, perhaps not
      50%, due to real wages cuts and loss of benefits and extras
      (special programs and such).

      

      It is hard to see how to lift up a lot with the some many factors
      at play.  Thus we stay with what we do.

      

      

        


          Salaries have dropped at least 50% due to inflation and
          devaluation and increments are told to be at most 25%.

          
Nothing to worry about. Perhaps some traffic jams, but
            there are subways, etc.

          

          
          
Regards

          

          

        

        


          
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:58 PM,
            Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
            wrote:

            


                

                On 03/22/2016 06:43 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote:

              
                

                  

                    On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Sean Leonard <dev+ietf@seantek.com>

                    wrote:

                    

                    Interesting. When was that/which IETF #?

                    

                  

                  IETF 56, March 2003, downtown San Francisco. The
                  protests were in opposition to the US invasion of
                  Iraq, which began while we were there.

                

                

               Of course it is better to watch the Martin Luther
              parades in Atlanta during IEEE 802 wireless meetings. 
              Been a few times there at the Hyatt...
              

                


                  

                  

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Never ment to rise a discussion about it, sory about it.
The most important part was that it will surely be peaceful and nothing to
worry about.
cheers !


On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:55 PM, McCall, Bede B.  wrote:

> Gotta go with Bob on this, Alexis (as I usually do). The risk of violence
> has no doubt been blown out of proportion by the reporting and the cause
> isn't in question. My 'Old Man' was a teacher for years and certainly
> didn't get rich from it.
>
> --Bede
>
>
> On 3/23/2016 10:18 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 03/23/2016 09:38 AM, Alexis Tcach wrote:
>
> I live here in Argentina and I'm a teacher.
> It's a very important and genuine protest and is expected to be peaceful.
>
>
> We did not intent to belittle the issue nor the protest.  In some areas of
> the US, teacher salaries have take a plunge, perhaps not 50%, due to real
> wages cuts and loss of benefits and extras (special programs and such).
>
> It is hard to see how to lift up a lot with the some many factors at
> play.  Thus we stay with what we do.
>
>
> Salaries have dropped at least 50% due to inflation and devaluation and
> increments are told to be at most 25%.
> Nothing to worry about. Perhaps some traffic jams, but there are subways,
> etc.
> More information (in spanish)
> http://www.eldestapeweb.com/docentes-amenazan-un-paro-nacional-el-4-abril-n15853
> Regards
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz <
> rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> On 03/22/2016 06:43 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Sean Leonard < 
>>>> dev+ietf@seantek.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Interesting. When was that/which IETF #?
>>>>
>>>> IETF 56, March 2003, downtown San Francisco. The protests were in
>>> opposition to the US invasion of Iraq, which began while we were there.
>>>
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>> Of course it is better to watch the Martin Luther parades in Atlanta
>> during IEEE 802 wireless meetings.  Been a few times there at the Hyatt...
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Never ment to rise a discussion about it, sory a=
bout it.
The most important part was that it will surely be peacef=
ul and nothing to worry about.
cheers !


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6 at 3:55 PM, McCall, Bede B. <bede@mitre.org> wrote:

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    Gotta go with Bob on this, Alexis (as I usually do). The risk of
    violence has no doubt been blown out of proportion by the reporting
    and the cause isn't in question. My 'Old Man' was a teacher=
 for
    years and certainly didn't get rich from it.=


    

    --Bede


    

    
On 3/23/2016 10:18 AM, Robert Moskowitz
      wrote:

    

    

     =20
      

      
On 03/23/2016 09:38 AM, Alexis Tcach
        wrote:

      

      

        
I live here in Argentina and I'm a teacher. 
          It's a very important and genuine protest and is expected to
          be peaceful.

        

      

      

      We did not intent to belittle the issue nor the protest.=C2=A0 In som=
e
      areas of the US, teacher salaries have take a plunge, perhaps not
      50%, due to real wages cuts and loss of benefits and extras
      (special programs and such).

      

      It is hard to see how to lift up a lot with the some many factors
      at play.=C2=A0 Thus we stay with what we do.

      

      

        


          Salaries have dropped at least 50% due to inflation and
          devaluation and increments are told to be at most 25%.

          
Nothing to worry about. Perhaps some traffic jams, but
            there are subways, etc.

          

          
          
Regards

          

          

        

        


          
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                On 03/22/2016 06:43 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote:

              
                

                  

                    On Mar 22, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Sean Leonard <dev+ietf@seantek.com>

                    wrote:

                    

                    Interesting. When was that/which IETF #?

                    

                  

                  IETF 56, March 2003, downtown San Francisco. The
                  protests were in opposition to the US invasion of
                  Iraq, which began while we were there.

                

                

               Of course it is better to watch the Martin Luther
              parades in Atlanta during IEEE 802 wireless meetings.=C2=A0
              Been a few times there at the Hyatt...
              

                


                  

                  

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On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:20 PM Carlos M. Martinez 
wrote:

> Adding to what John mentions, bear in mind that the area around the
> Sheraton Retiro (the ICANN meeting's venue) is generally worse than the
> area around the Hilton.
>
>
... and the area around the Sheraton Libertador Hotel even more so.

When heading to the 2013 ICANN meeting I got early information that the
ICANN meeting was going to be held "at the Buenos Aires Sheraton". Seeing
as ICANN meeting hotels often sell out really quickly, I dashed off and
booked my room, before the location was public.I felt really please with
myself for managing this, especially because my rom rate was significantly
below the ICANN rate.....
... and then I was standing in line at the airport, waiting to bard the
plane, and idly chatting with a friend (Sarah). I boasted about my great
room rate, and she asked if I'd managed to get a room with a water view. I
replied that the hotel was no where near the water, and what was she on
about?! She said that the hotel is right on the water, I asked what drugs
she'd been taking, because it *clearly* wasn't... Much arguing back and
forth later, I finally realized that I'd booked inthe the BA Sheraton --
but that there are tow Sheratons, and I'd gotten the wrong one :-P

Anyway, it's a roughly 1.2km walk from the one to the other. I did it at
all hours of the day and night, and the only issues I experienced were:
1: a small blister and
2: the place with the good coffee on the ay back was not open late in the
evening.

W



> On 3/23/16 1:00 PM, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
> >> You are probably more street-wise than the Americans which are said to
> >> have their iPhones regularly taken from them...
> > I wandered around B.A. a fair amount during last year's ICANN meeting
> > and didn't find it particularly scary.  Admittedly I'm a large white
> > guy, but there were plenty of people walking around who weren't and
> > they seemed fine, too.
> >
> > It may have been worse in the past, like the time that Argentina
> > dropped dollar parity and all of a sudden pesos that were worth $1.00
> > were now worth about 33c.
> >
> > R's,
> > John
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Sheraton Retiro (the ICANN meeting's venue) is generally worse than the=


area around the Hilton.



... and the area around the=C2=A0Shera=
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When heading to=
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going to be held "at the Buenos Aires Sheraton". Seeing as ICANN =
meeting hotels often sell out really quickly, I dashed off and booked my ro=
om, before the location was public.I felt really please with myself for man=
aging this, especially because my rom rate was significantly below the ICAN=
N rate.....=C2=A0
... and then I was standing in line at the airp=
ort, waiting to bard the plane, and idly chatting with a friend (Sarah). I =
boasted about my great room rate, and she asked if I'd managed to get a=
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er, and what was she on about?! She said that the hotel is right on the wat=
er, I asked what drugs she'd been taking, because it *clearly* wasn'=
;t... Much arguing back and forth later, I finally realized that I'd bo=
oked inthe the BA Sheraton -- but that there are tow Sheratons, and I'd=
 gotten the wrong one :-P

Anyway, it's a rough=
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nd night, and the only issues I experienced were:
1: a small blis=
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2: the place with the good coffee on the ay back wa=
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On 3/23/16 1:00 PM, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:

>> You are probably more street-wise than the Americans which are sai=
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>> have their iPhones regularly taken from them...

> I wandered around B.A. a fair amount during last year's ICANN meet=
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> and didn't find it particularly scary.=C2=A0 Admittedly I'm a =
large white

> guy, but there were plenty of people walking around who weren't an=
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> they seemed fine, too.

>

> It may have been worse in the past, like the time that Argentina

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>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz < =
rgm@labs.htt-consult.com =
> wrote:
>> I forgot to take care of this until now.
>>=20
>> I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to enter my =
credit card information is in spanish.  And I basically flunked High =
School Spanish back in the '60s...
>>=20
>> Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields =
mean?
>>=20


I just saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens has been suspended =
starting tomorrow. So if you haven=92t already paid this, I wouldn=92t.

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On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM,
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 I forgot to
                        take care of this until now.

                        

                        I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog
                        window to enter my credit card information is in
                        spanish.  And I basically flunked High =
School
                        Spanish back in the '60s...

                        

                        Either how do I get this dialog in English or
                        what do the fields mean?  

                         

                            =



I just saw where the =
reciprocity fee for US citizens has been suspended starting tomorrow. So =
if you haven=92t already paid this, I wouldn=92t.
http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocit=
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I will now do a brief dance of smugness to celebrate my procrastinating
ways.   Thanks for the news, Tom!   I was just about to go do this.

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>>>
>>> Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields mean?
>>>
>>>
>
> I just saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens has been suspended
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Tom Pusateri  wrote:
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> On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I forgot to take care of this until now.
>>>
>>> I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to enter my cred=
it
>>> card information is in spanish.  And I basically flunked High School Sp=
anish
>>> back in the '60s...
>>>
>>> Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields mean?
>>>
>
>
> I just saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens has been suspended
> starting tomorrow. So if you haven=E2=80=99t already paid this, I wouldn=
=E2=80=99t.
>
> http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-=
us-citizens.html
>

For those who paid, do they get reimbursed?

Maybe they are going to say, use it for your next visit.


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The wonders of the Obama visit to Argentina. This probably means that
Argentinians (and hopefully us Uruguayans too) will get back into the
Visa Waiver program.

On 3/23/16 6:33 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> I will now do a brief dance of smugness to celebrate my
> procrastinating ways.   Thanks for the news, Tom!   I was just about
> to go do this.
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Tom Pusateri  > wrote:
>
>
>>     On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz
>>     > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz
>>>         >
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>             I forgot to take care of this until now.
>>>
>>>             I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window
>>>             to enter my credit card information is in spanish.  And
>>>             I basically flunked High School Spanish back in the '60s...
>>>
>>>             Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do
>>>             the fields mean? 
>>>
>
>
>     I just saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens has been
>     suspended starting tomorrow. So if you haven’t already paid this,
>     I wouldn’t.
>
>     http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-citizens.html
>
>     Tom
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    The wonders of the Obama visit to Argentina. This probably means
      that Argentinians (and hopefully us Uruguayans too) will get back
      into the Visa Waiver program.

    

    
On 3/23/16 6:33 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:

    

    

      
I will now do a brief dance of smugness to
        celebrate my procrastinating ways.   Thanks for the news, Tom!  
        I was just about to go do this.

      


        
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Tom
          Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com>
          wrote:

          

            


                

                  

                    
On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz
                      <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
                      wrote:

                    

                      

                        

                          

                            

                              

                                

                                  

                                    

                                      

                                        

                                          

                                            


                                              

                                            

                                          

                                        

                                      

                                    

                                  

                                  

                                  

                                    

                                      
On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58
                                        PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
                                        wrote:

                                      

                                    

                                    

                                      

                                        

                                          
 I forgot
                                            to take care of this until
                                            now.

                                            

                                            I am into paying for $160,
                                            but the popup dialog window
                                            to enter my credit card
                                            information is in spanish. 
                                            And I basically flunked High
                                            School Spanish back in the
                                            '60s...

                                            

                                            Either how do I get this
                                            dialog in English or what do
                                            the fields mean?  

                                            
                                                

                                              

                                        

                                      

                                    

                                  

                                

                              

                            

                          

                        

                      

                    

                  

                

                

                


                

              
              
I just saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens
                has been suspended starting tomorrow. So if you haven’t
                already paid this, I wouldn’t.

              


              

              
              
                  


                  

                  
Tom

                  


                  

                

            

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Star Wars Happy Dance

On 3/23/2016 2:33 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> I will now do a brief dance of smugness to celebrate my 
> procrastinating ways.   Thanks for the news, Tom! I was just about to 
> go do this.
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Tom Pusateri  > wrote:
>
>
>>     On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz
>>     > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz
>>>         >
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>             I forgot to take care of this until now.
>>>
>>>             I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window
>>>             to enter my credit card information is in spanish. And I
>>>             basically flunked High School Spanish back in the '60s...
>>>
>>>             Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do
>>>             the fields mean?
>>>
>
>
>     I just saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens has been
>     suspended starting tomorrow. So if you haven’t already paid this,
>     I wouldn’t.
>
>     http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-citizens.html
>
>     Tom
>


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Star Wars Happy Dance

      

      On 3/23/2016 2:33 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:

    

    

      
I will now do a brief dance of smugness to
        celebrate my procrastinating ways.   Thanks for the news, Tom!  
        I was just about to go do this.

      


        
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Tom
          Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com>
          wrote:

          

            


                

                  

                    
On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz
                      <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
                      wrote:

                    

                      

                        

                          

                            

                              

                                

                                  

                                    

                                      

                                        

                                          

                                            


                                              

                                            

                                          

                                        

                                      

                                    

                                  

                                  

                                  

                                    

                                      
On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58
                                        PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
                                        wrote:

                                      

                                    

                                    

                                      

                                        

                                          
 I forgot
                                            to take care of this until
                                            now.

                                            

                                            I am into paying for $160,
                                            but the popup dialog window
                                            to enter my credit card
                                            information is in spanish. 
                                            And I basically flunked High
                                            School Spanish back in the
                                            '60s...

                                            

                                            Either how do I get this
                                            dialog in English or what do
                                            the fields mean?  

                                            
                                                

                                              

                                        

                                      

                                    

                                  

                                

                              

                            

                          

                        

                      

                    

                  

                

                

                


                

              
              
I just saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens
                has been suspended starting tomorrow. So if you haven’t
                already paid this, I wouldn’t.

              


              

              
              
                  


                  

                  
Tom

                

            

          

        

      

    

    

  


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I honestly wonder if this is related to the President=92s =
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all.

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On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:

                          

                        

                      

                    

                  

                

              

              

              

                

                  
On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM,
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 I forgot to
                        take care of this until now.

                        

                        I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog
                        window to enter my credit card information is in
                        spanish.  And I basically flunked High =
School
                        Spanish back in the '60s...

                        

                        Either how do I get this dialog in English or
                        what do the fields mean?  

                         

                            =



I just saw where the =
reciprocity fee for US citizens has been suspended starting tomorrow. So =
if you haven=92t already paid this, I wouldn=92t.
http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocit=
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Wonder no more.

On 3/23/16 6:53 PM, Colin Doyle wrote:
> I honestly wonder if this is related to the President’s visit. You
> know, improved relations and handshakes and back-patting and all.
>
> C
>> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Tom Pusateri > > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz
>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz
>>>>      wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         I forgot to take care of this until now.
>>>>
>>>>         I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to
>>>>         enter my credit card information is in spanish.  And I
>>>>         basically flunked High School Spanish back in the '60s...
>>>>
>>>>         Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the
>>>>         fields mean? 
>>>>
>>
>>
>> I just saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens has been
>> suspended starting tomorrow. So if you haven’t already paid this, I
>> wouldn’t.
>>
>> http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-citizens.html
>>
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    Wonder no more. 

    

    
On 3/23/16 6:53 PM, Colin Doyle wrote:

    

    

      
      I honestly wonder if this is related to the President’s visit. You
      know, improved relations and handshakes and back-patting and all.
      


      

      
C

        

          

            
On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com> wrote:

            

            

              
              


                

                  

                    
On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert
                      Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
                      wrote:

                    

                      

                        

                          

                            

                              

                                

                                  

                                    

                                      

                                        

                                          

                                            


                                              

                                            

                                          

                                        

                                      

                                    

                                  

                                  

                                  

                                    

                                      
On Sun, Mar 20,
                                        2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert
                                        Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
                                        wrote:

                                      

                                    

                                    

                                      

                                        

                                          

                                            I forgot to take care of
                                            this until now.

                                            

                                            I am into paying for $160,
                                            but the popup dialog window
                                            to enter my credit card
                                            information is in spanish. 
                                            And I basically flunked High
                                            School Spanish back in the
                                            '60s...

                                            

                                            Either how do I get this
                                            dialog in English or what do
                                            the fields mean?  

                                            
                                                

                                              

                                        

                                      

                                    

                                  

                                

                              

                            

                          

                        

                      

                    

                  

                

                

                


                

                
I just saw where the reciprocity fee for
                  US citizens has been suspended starting tomorrow. So
                  if you haven’t already paid this, I wouldn’t.

                


                

                
                


                

                
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It's almost certainly related to Obama's visit.

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Colin Doyle  wrote:

> I honestly wonder if this is related to the President=E2=80=99s visit. Yo=
u know,
> improved relations and handshakes and back-patting and all.
>
> C
>
> On Mar 23, 2016, at 2:31 PM, Tom Pusateri  wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz 
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>
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz <
>> rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I forgot to take care of this until now.
>>>
>>> I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to enter my
>>> credit card information is in spanish.  And I basically flunked High Sc=
hool
>>> Spanish back in the '60s...
>>>
>>> Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields mean?
>>>
>>>
>
> I just saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens has been suspended
> starting tomorrow. So if you haven=E2=80=99t already paid this, I wouldn=
=E2=80=99t.
>
>
> http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-=
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It's almost certainly related to Obama's visit.

On Wed, Mar 23=
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I hon=
estly wonder if this is related to the President=E2=80=99s visit. You know,=
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On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM,
                    Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
                    wrote:

                  

                

                

                  

                    

                      
 I forgot t=
o
                        take care of this until now.

                        

                        I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog
                        window to enter my credit card information is in
                        spanish.=C2=A0 And I basically flunked High School
                        Spanish back in the '60s...

                        

                        Either how do I get this dialog in English or
                        what do the fields mean?=C2=A0 

                         

                            


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Evidently, Carlos thought the same thing. I=92d say that proves it.

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Evidently, Carlos thought the same thing. I=92d say that =
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I honestly =
wonder if this is related to the President=92s visit. You know, improved =
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On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:

                          

                        

                      

                    

                  

                

              

              

              

                

                  
On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM,
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 I forgot to
                        take care of this until now.

                        

                        I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog
                        window to enter my credit card information is in
                        spanish.  And I basically flunked High =
School
                        Spanish back in the '60s...

                        

                        Either how do I get this dialog in English or
                        what do the fields mean?  

                         

                            =



I just saw where the =
reciprocity fee for US citizens has been suspended starting tomorrow. So =
if you haven=92t already paid this, I wouldn=92t.
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I guess my call on the red phone worked!

;-)

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Seriously?  I was halfway through the process of paying early today when I d=
iscovered I didn't have my passport with me.

Thanks for letting us know!

- Ralph

> On Mar 23, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Tom Pusateri  wrote:
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Seriously?  I was half=
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- Ralph

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On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM,
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 forgot to
                        take care of this until now.

                        

                        I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog
                        window to enter my credit card information is in
                        spanish.  And I basically flunked High School
                        Spanish back in the '60s...

                        

                        Either how do I get this dialog in English or
                        what do the fields mean?  

                        =
 

                            


I just=
 saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens has been suspended starting t=
omorrow. So if you haven=E2=80=99t already paid this, I wouldn=E2=80=99t.

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Hi folks,

Hmm, it looks like Obama's visit with Macri had some results,
at least for those of us procrastinators that haven't paid this yet:

   Reciprocity fee for US citizens

   As from March 24, 2016, and until further notice, payment of
   the Reciprocity Fee will not be required from US passport holders.

   http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-citizens.html

Dave

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On 03/23/2016 06:15 PM, Dave Plonka wrote:
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> Hi folks,
>
> Hmm, it looks like Obama's visit with Macri had some results,
> at least for those of us procrastinators that haven't paid this yet:
>
>     Reciprocity fee for US citizens
>
>     As from March 24, 2016, and until further notice, payment of
>     the Reciprocity Fee will not be required from US passport holders.
>
>     http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-citizens.html

Um,

The 24th is the holiday of Purim.  Where little is as it seems.

I am leary.

Just check again next week.

Or it can be the aspect of Purim where the order is turned on its head.

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On 03/23/2016 10:53 PM, Colin Doyle wrote:
> I honestly wonder if this is related to the President’s visit. You know,
> improved relations and handshakes and back-patting and all.

Please define "improved", and for *whom*.

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In article <56F31553.8010607@gont.com.ar> you write:
>On 03/23/2016 10:53 PM, Colin Doyle wrote:
>> I honestly wonder if this is related to the President’s visit. You know,
>> improved relations and handshakes and back-patting and all.
>
>Please define "improved", and for *whom*.

Bonds paid off.  Paul Singer and Elliott Management.

HTH, HAND,
John


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John,

I just roam the globe with my T-Mobile phone. Regarding incoming calls,
I=E2=80=99ve just got my phone automatically set for do not disturb (except=
 for
certain callers) during local night hours.

Cheers,
Andy

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:56 PM, John R. Levine  wrote:

> Right, well, since there is no contract, and depending on how often
>> you travel, this service is perfect for International Roaming, not
>> (necessarily) domestic use.
>>
>
> Depends where you go.  These days it's remarkably easy to get cheap local
> SIMs most places.  I was in Vienna two weeks ago, prepaid SIM was =E2=82=
=AC15 for a
> bucket of way more minutes, texts, and data than I'd ever use, and I had =
a
> local number which was handy for restaurant reservations.  In Yokohama I
> got a $30 data-only SIM (it being Japan) which worked pretty well with a
> VoIP app.
>
> For people calling me, for the most part I'd rather not have random peopl=
e
> calling my office number ring me at odd hours in odd countries.  I get
> voicemails as e-mail attachments so I can call them back.
>
> R's,
> John
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John,

I just roam the globe with my T-M=
obile phone. Regarding incoming calls, I=E2=80=99ve just got my phone autom=
atically set for do not disturb (except for certain callers) during local n=
ight hours.

Cheers,
Andy

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 =
at 11:56 PM, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:

Right, well, since there is no contract, and depending on how often

you travel, this service is perfect for International Roaming, not

(necessarily) domestic use.





Depends where you go.=C2=A0 These days it's remarkably easy to get chea=
p local SIMs most places.=C2=A0 I was in Vienna two weeks ago, prepaid SIM =
was =E2=82=AC15 for a bucket of way more minutes, texts, and data than I=
9;d ever use, and I had a local number which was handy for restaurant reser=
vations.=C2=A0 In Yokohama I got a $30 data-only SIM (it being Japan) which=
 worked pretty well with a VoIP app.



For people calling me, for the most part I'd rather not have random peo=
ple calling my office number ring me at odd hours in odd countries.=C2=A0 I=
 get voicemails as e-mail attachments so I can call them back.



R's,

John
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Behcet Sarikaya 
wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Tom Pusateri  wrote:
> >
> > On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz  >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I forgot to take care of this until now.
> >>>
> >>> I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to enter my
> credit
> >>> card information is in spanish.  And I basically flunked High School
> Spanish
> >>> back in the '60s...
> >>>
> >>> Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fields mean=
?
> >>>
> >
> >
> > I just saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens has been suspended
> > starting tomorrow. So if you haven=E2=80=99t already paid this, I would=
n=E2=80=99t.
> >
> >
> http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-=
us-citizens.html
> >
>
> For those who paid, do they get reimbursed?
>

Darned - just paid this morning. Will call the credit card company to stop
payment...


>
> Maybe they are going to say, use it for your next visit.
>
>
> > Tom
> >
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Behcet Sarikaya <sa=
rikaya2012@gmail.com> wrote:
On=
 Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com> wrote:

>

> On Mar 20, 2016, at 11:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>

> wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Robert Moskowitz

>> <rgm@labs.htt-consu=
lt.com> wrote:

>>>

>>> I forgot to take care of this until now.

>>>

>>> I am into paying for $160, but the popup dialog window to ente=
r my credit

>>> card information is in spanish.=C2=A0 And I basically flunked =
High School Spanish

>>> back in the '60s...

>>>

>>> Either how do I get this dialog in English or what do the fiel=
ds mean?

>>>

>

>

> I just saw where the reciprocity fee for US citizens has been suspende=
d

> starting tomorrow. So if you haven=E2=80=99t already paid this, I woul=
dn=E2=80=99t.

>

> http:/=
/www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-citiz=
ens.html

>



For those who paid, do they get reimbursed?
Darned - just paid this morning. Will call the credit card comp=
any to stop payment...
=C2=A0



Maybe they are going to say, use it for your next visit.





> Tom


>

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Dear all,

When: April 4th, 10h00 - 12h30
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Please come to talk to us on any WG or OPS area items, about new 
proposals, or about any other IETF-related business.

An advanced notification would be appreciated, so that we can schedule 
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To: Robert Moskowitz , Dave Plonka , "95attendees@ietf.org" <95attendees@ietf.org>
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> Um,
> The 24th is the holiday of Purim.  Where little is as it seems.
> I am leary.
> Just check again next week.
> Or it can be the aspect of Purim where the order is turned on its head.

I suspect the fact that March 24 is the 40th anniversary of the 1976 milita=
ry coup that the U.S. initially supported may be more relevant. The US gove=
rnment has said it is declassifying documents that show the US role in the =
coup (apparently in an attempt to start to come clean). It appears that US =
involvement in this "dirty war" is still the cause of considerable resentme=
nt in Argentina, and there are supposed to be big demonstrations today on t=
he Plaza de Mayo protesting against this US involvement and against Obama, =
corporations, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact.=20
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On 3/23/16, 8:04 PM, "95attendees on behalf of H.K. Jerry Chu" <95attendees=
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Darned - just paid this morning. Will call the credit card company to stop =
payment...

I suspect your employer was paying it anyway, no? Seems like it should be w=
ater under the bridge so to speak, so why cause a charge-back fee to the Ar=
gentinian government (which is trying hard to transform & improve their eco=
nomy)? It was not as if it was a fraudulent charge.

Jason

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Darned - just paid this morning. Will call the c=
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I suspect your employer was paying it anyway, no? Seems like it should=
 be water under the bridge so to speak, so why cause a charge-back fee to t=
he Argentinian government (which is trying hard to transform & improve =
their economy)? It was not as if it
 was a fraudulent charge.







Jason




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The new update of the IETFers app is ready to download. As you will see =
in the release notes, this one has been rewritten to synchronize with =
the IETF database. The first time you run it, it will take some time so =
be patient. Also, it will not automatically switch meetings, you have to =
do that in Settings. The first time you switch to a new meeting, it also =
will have a noticeable delay. We will work to make these delays shorter.

On the bright side, this app will work for future meetings. As soon as =
the new meetings and sessions are published, it will discover them.

There are certain features that I wasn=E2=80=99t able to replicate using =
the database including audio streaming and playback, jabber log =
synchronization, and maps. If you would like to see missing features =
brought back, let me know and I will work with the tools team to make it =
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The import favorites from previous meeting also got left out due to time =
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Tom



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The one thing that I have been missing in the (in my case android) app is
a capability to inset private appointments/meetings that I plan during IETF.
Do you think it would be doable to add such a feature?

Keep up the good work.

Thanks, Bert

On 24/03/16 14:28, Tom Pusateri wrote:
> The new update of the IETFers app is ready to download. As you will see in the release notes, this one has been rewritten to synchronize with the IETF database. The first time you run it, it will take some time so be patient. Also, it will not automatically switch meetings, you have to do that in Settings. The first time you switch to a new meeting, it also will have a noticeable delay. We will work to make these delays shorter.
>
> On the bright side, this app will work for future meetings. As soon as the new meetings and sessions are published, it will discover them.
>
> There are certain features that I wasn’t able to replicate using the database including audio streaming and playback, jabber log synchronization, and maps. If you would like to see missing features brought back, let me know and I will work with the tools team to make it possible.
>
> The import favorites from previous meeting also got left out due to time pressure to get this version released. It will be back in the next release.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>
>
>
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Bert, I just put those in my regular calendar, and export the IETFers
favorites to my calendar as well, thus my regular calendar becomes a master
calendar showing all appointments and meetings.

Tom, I miss the maps, those were really helpful. With the maps, you don=E2=
=80=99t
need the paper agenda at all. As a workaround, I opened the online map page
in Safari and I=E2=80=99ll keep that as an open page.

Cheers,
Andy

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Bert Wijnen (IETF) 
wrote:

> The one thing that I have been missing in the (in my case android) app is
> a capability to inset private appointments/meetings that I plan during
> IETF.
> Do you think it would be doable to add such a feature?
>
> Keep up the good work.
>
> Thanks, Bert
>
>
> On 24/03/16 14:28, Tom Pusateri wrote:
>
>> The new update of the IETFers app is ready to download. As you will see
>> in the release notes, this one has been rewritten to synchronize with th=
e
>> IETF database. The first time you run it, it will take some time so be
>> patient. Also, it will not automatically switch meetings, you have to do
>> that in Settings. The first time you switch to a new meeting, it also wi=
ll
>> have a noticeable delay. We will work to make these delays shorter.
>>
>> On the bright side, this app will work for future meetings. As soon as
>> the new meetings and sessions are published, it will discover them.
>>
>> There are certain features that I wasn=E2=80=99t able to replicate using=
 the
>> database including audio streaming and playback, jabber log
>> synchronization, and maps. If you would like to see missing features
>> brought back, let me know and I will work with the tools team to make it
>> possible.
>>
>> The import favorites from previous meeting also got left out due to time
>> pressure to get this version released. It will be back in the next relea=
se.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>

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Bert, I just put those in my regular calendar, and export =
the IETFers favorites to my calendar as well, thus my regular calendar beco=
mes a master calendar showing all appointments and meetings.

=

Tom, I miss the maps, those were really helpful. With the maps, you do=
n=E2=80=99t need the paper agenda at all. As a workaround, I opened the onl=
ine map page in Safari and I=E2=80=99ll keep that as an open page.

Cheers,
Andy
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Bert Wijnen (=
IETF) <bertietf@bwijnen.net> wrote:
The one thing that I have been missing in the (in my case and=
roid) app is

a capability to inset private appointments/meetings that I plan during IETF=
.

Do you think it would be doable to add such a feature?



Keep up the good work.



Thanks, Bert




On 24/03/16 14:28, Tom Pusateri wrote:



The new update of the IETFers app is ready to download. As you will see in =
the release notes, this one has been rewritten to synchronize with the IETF=
 database. The first time you run it, it will take some time so be patient.=
 Also, it will not automatically switch meetings, you have to do that in Se=
ttings. The first time you switch to a new meeting, it also will have a not=
iceable delay. We will work to make these delays shorter.



On the bright side, this app will work for future meetings. As soon as the =
new meetings and sessions are published, it will discover them.



There are certain features that I wasn=E2=80=99t able to replicate using th=
e database including audio streaming and playback, jabber log synchronizati=
on, and maps. If you would like to see missing features brought back, let m=
e know and I will work with the tools team to make it possible.



The import favorites from previous meeting also got left out due to time pr=
essure to get this version released. It will be back in the next release.


Thanks,

Tom


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Tom Pusateri wrote:
> There are certain features that I wasn’t able to replicate using the database including audio streaming and playback, jabber log synchronization, and maps. If you would like to see missing features brought back, let me know and I will work with the tools team to make it possible.

Apart from the maps already mentions, the audio streaming is really
useful on site when you need to be in two meetings at the same time so
you can decide when to run over to the other meeting.

Grüße, Carsten


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Thank you muy mucho for the IETFers app.

I was using it (iOS 9.3, iPhone 6S) this morning in a manner that
perhaps you didn't intend that exposed some clunkiness in the new
syncing behavior. It did take a while to download on first launch
after updating the new app... but it hung and didn't seem to finish
(and the heading said IETF 94). I forced closed the app, restarted,
still syncing. I had to delete and reinstall the app to get past this
and then it seemed to recognize it should try to synch IETF 95 and did
so pretty quickly 20-30s.

However, here is the real usability nit: Like Andrew Malis I favorite
sessions in IETFers and use the auto add-to-calendar facility within
the app. I had favorited a bunch of sessions and then started checking
out agendas and popping out of the IETFers app and into my calendar
app. This fast switching between IETFers and another app caused
IETFers to attempt to re-synch the IETF 95 data it had *every time I
switched back to the app.* Occassionally, this was unobtrusive but
more often than not the app would hang or take a long while to see if
it needed to sync.

While I still love the app (who couldn't?!) it would be great if it
checked if it needed to sync less often (not every time the app is
switched to). Maybe once an hour with a settings toggle to resync? Or
maybe a "skip sync" button on the sync interaction to say to the app
"syncing is all well and good, but you're my master and I want to see
a potentially stale IETF schedule!!!"

::)

Thanks a ton, Joe


On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Tom Pusateri  wrote:
> The new update of the IETFers app is ready to download. As you will see i=
n the release notes, this one has been rewritten to synchronize with the IE=
TF database. The first time you run it, it will take some time so be patien=
t. Also, it will not automatically switch meetings, you have to do that in =
Settings. The first time you switch to a new meeting, it also will have a n=
oticeable delay. We will work to make these delays shorter.
>
> On the bright side, this app will work for future meetings. As soon as th=
e new meetings and sessions are published, it will discover them.
>
> There are certain features that I wasn=E2=80=99t able to replicate using =
the database including audio streaming and playback, jabber log synchroniza=
tion, and maps. If you would like to see missing features brought back, let=
 me know and I will work with the tools team to make it possible.
>
> The import favorites from previous meeting also got left out due to time =
pressure to get this version released. It will be back in the next release.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
>
>
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 06:22:52PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> 
> 
> On 03/23/2016 06:15 PM, Dave Plonka wrote:
> >
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >Hmm, it looks like Obama's visit with Macri had some results,
> >at least for those of us procrastinators that haven't paid this yet:
> >
> >    Reciprocity fee for US citizens
> >
> >    As from March 24, 2016, and until further notice, payment of
> >    the Reciprocity Fee will not be required from US passport holders.
> >
> >    http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-citizens.html
> 
> Um,
> 
> The 24th is the holiday of Purim.  Where little is as it seems.
> 
> I am leary.
> 
> Just check again next week.
> 
> Or it can be the aspect of Purim where the order is turned on its head.

Perhaps in the spirit of Purim, I hope to spend my reciprocity fee
on some fesitve drinking in BA. :)

   "Argentina Suspends Reciprocity Fee for US Tourists" (24 Mar 2016)
   http://www.argentinaindependent.com/currentaffairs/newsfromargentina/argentina-suspends-reciprocity-fee-for-us-tourists/

   According to the Argentine embassy in the US, as from March 24,
   2016, and until further notice, payment of the Reciprocity Fee
   will not be required from US passport holders.

   A message on the Argentine immigration office website adds more
   details: The reciprocity fee created by Presidential Decree
   1654/2008 and regulated by the Disposition DNM 2761/2009, will
   be suspended for a 90-day period, or until an Executive Order
   be issued (as promoted by this National Directorate), for the
   derogation of this fee, as regards the US citizens entering
   Argentine territory.

-- 
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Barbara,

On 03/24/2016 02:01 PM, STARK, BARBARA H wrote:
>> Um, The 24th is the holiday of Purim.  Where little is as it
>> seems. I am leary. Just check again next week. Or it can be the
>> aspect of Purim where the order is turned on its head.
> 
> I suspect the fact that March 24 is the 40th anniversary of the 1976
> military coup that the U.S. initially supported may be more relevant.
> The US government has said it is declassifying documents that show
> the US role in the coup (apparently in an attempt to start to come
> clean). It appears that US involvement in this "dirty war" is still
> the cause of considerable resentment in Argentina, and there are
> supposed to be big demonstrations today on the Plaza de Mayo
> protesting against this US involvement and against Obama,
> corporations, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade pact.

The US involvement in the Argentina's military coup (which killed over
30000 people) is generally known. Generally speaking, and for probably
obvious reasons, people tend to dislike when one country minds into
another country's internal business (this applies not only to the coup
in Argentina, but essentially to every dictatorship that was backed in
latin america at the same timeframe).

However, the above doesn't imply hate. Nor does it imply people blaming
US citizens for what they government did, or blaming a government for
what past president did (even if that represented the sentiment of the
majority at the time, or even the majority of people nowadays). As a
datapoint, I've talked about "foreign policy" with a  number of folks
from the US during IETF meetings, who are not supportive of the
aforementioned policy. The world is pretty much like that. And even if
someone was supportive of such policies, I'm of the idea that, if
anything, the way to go is to provide an alternative perspective 8and in
the worst case scenario, just agree to disagree).

Yes, you'd probably not be welcome by the crowds if you raised a US flag
in the middle of a remembrance act of March 24th -- but I guess that's
something that, based on common sense, you wouldn't do.

Relax. No need to worry. And enjoy Buenos Aires!

-- 
Fernando Gont
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 On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:50:29 -0400, Joseph Lorenzo Hall  
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> Thank you muy mucho for the IETFers app.

 Hail to Tom. This is one of the greatest services to IETF practically 
 speaking
 I ever saw anyone perform ...


 --- tony


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 On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 09:28:05 -0400, Tom Pusateri  
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> The new update of the IETFers app is ready to download. As you will


 Sign of someone having a clue here. 5 updates on my iphone choking WiFi 
 going on now:

 LI 106MB
 FB Messenger 83MB
 G Maps 55MB

 Tom's IETFs 2.2 MB

 It does tell you something I think ...

 --- tony


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Question, Tom - I updated the app on my iPhone, and opened it. As =
expected, it spent some time fondling the network. Now it sits and =
stares at me; the only words on the screen are "IETF 94", and looking at =
settings, I don't see a means to select "IETF 95".

What am I missing?

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On 24/03/2016 17:05, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:
> Question, Tom - I updated the app on my iPhone, and opened it. As
> expected, it spent some time fondling the network. Now it sits and
> stares at me; the only words on the screen are "IETF 94", and looking
> at settings, I don't see a means to select "IETF 95".
> 
> What am I missing?

Mine did that too - I "force closed" the app and restarted it and then
the expected screen appeared.

Ray



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On 3/24/2016 9:28 AM, Tom Pusateri wrote:

Hi Tom -

Thanks as always for the update, but I really wish you'd have provided 
this as a new app/separate beta given how much has changed.  I've 
already found one issue that's very problematic - if you have no network 
access, the app blocks trying to load - even if it has a reasonably 
current database.   That means no access in airplane mode.  It also 
means that if you disable the app's access to cellular data (e.g. to 
avoid roaming charges), and you're not on Wifi - again, no access.

As far as I can tell, there's no timeout set for the network check either.

Or am I missing some settings somewhere?

Later, Mike



> The new update of the IETFers app is ready to download. As you will see in the release notes, this one has been rewritten to synchronize with the IETF database. The first time you run it, it will take some time so be patient. Also, it will not automatically switch meetings, you have to do that in Settings. The first time you switch to a new meeting, it also will have a noticeable delay. We will work to make these delays shorter.
>
> On the bright side, this app will work for future meetings. As soon as the new meetings and sessions are published, it will discover them.
>
> There are certain features that I wasn’t able to replicate using the database including audio streaming and playback, jabber log synchronization, and maps. If you would like to see missing features brought back, let me know and I will work with the tools team to make it possible.
>
> The import favorites from previous meeting also got left out due to time pressure to get this version released. It will be back in the next release.
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> Thanks,
> Tom
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On 3/24/2016 9:28 AM, Tom Pusateri
      wrote:

      

      Hi Tom - 

      

      Thanks as always for the update, but I really wish you'd have
      provided this as a new app/separate beta given how much has
      changed.  I've already found one issue that's very problematic -
      if you have no network access, the app blocks trying to load -
      even if it has a reasonably current database.   That means no
      access in airplane mode.  It also means that if you disable the
      app's access to cellular data (e.g. to avoid roaming charges), 
      and you're not on Wifi - again, no access.

      

      As far as I can tell, there's no timeout set for the network check
      either.

      

      Or am I missing some settings somewhere?

      

      Later, Mike

      

      

      

    

    

      
The new update of the IETFers app is ready to download. As you will see in the release notes, this one has been rewritten to synchronize with the IETF database. The first time you run it, it will take some time so be patient. Also, it will not automatically switch meetings, you have to do that in Settings. The first time you switch to a new meeting, it also will have a noticeable delay. We will work to make these delays shorter.

On the bright side, this app will work for future meetings. As soon as the new meetings and sessions are published, it will discover them.

There are certain features that I wasn’t able to replicate using the database including audio streaming and playback, jabber log synchronization, and maps. If you would like to see missing features brought back, let me know and I will work with the tools team to make it possible.

The import favorites from previous meeting also got left out due to time pressure to get this version released. It will be back in the next release.

Thanks,
Tom




      

      

      

      
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On 03/24/2016 06:15 PM, STARK, BARBARA H wrote:
>> Relax. No need to worry. And enjoy Buenos Aires!
> 
> My email wasn't intended to suggest I was concerned. I was just
> trying to provide a little information as to why March 24 is
> considered an important date in Argentina. I like to know about both
> history and current events in places where I travel, because that
> gives insight into what I see around me. I don't just want to see the
> external façade of Buenos Aires -- I want to see the people and
> understand who they are and how they see themselves, the world, and
> their place in the world. I assure you, I have every intention of
> enjoying Buenos Aires.

Ok, that's awesome. I just thought you were concerned. -- I'll be
putting up something along these lines. -- more later.



> [I also appreciated the info Alexis gave about reasons for the
> education workers strike. It provided a perspective that while us
> foreigners are rejoicing that we can now get pesos from ATMs, the
> economic reforms that made that happen are causing some people
> pain.] 

*Exactly*. During the last ten years,the government did quite a few
things that I personally share from an idealogical point of view:. eg.,

* They brought back scientists that had essentially been expelled from
  the country in the '90s (during the then neoliberal government).

* The government invested *a lot* on education.

* Science and technological developments where sponsored (see e.g.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARSAT-1)

* And there were lots of advances in social and human rights aspects
(gay marriage, assisted fertilization law, and others)

* Lots of small and medium companies flourished (many of which had shut
down operations during the 90s)

* The government regained control of a number of companies that had been
sold during the nineties (and that had essentially been sacked).


The government also broke relationships with the media monopolies (just
not to say "mafia"), and obviously you'd get what you'd expect in terms
of media (and not unusually foreign media, that happen to pick up the
stuff that these folks write here). And it hasn't been unusual for me to
meet people around the world that apparently base their opinions on such
media.

Yes, not everything was good, there are things I don't agree with, etc.,
etc., but there was certainly a much needed change in direction. And I
can tell you first hand that the life of many changed for good (by no
means am I meaning that the life of everyone changed, nor that the life
of everyone changed as much as needed). Last December the government
changed to a center-right wing one, with some policies similar to those
that we already experienced in the '90s. -- a large number of votes went
there in the name of change (no matter what "change" implied)... but I
hear some of that is happening in the north, too... so I guess not much
need to explain.

Ah... obviously, you need to read about this guy:
  :-)

FWIW, I live in Buenos Aires.

Cheers,
-- 
Fernando Gont
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Without seeing a screen shot, I can offer a few options:

1. click the bottom right hand tab that says settings and then Meeting =
Location select IETF 95.

2. If that isn=E2=80=99t possible, kill the app by double clicking and =
side scrolling until it is selected and flick it up to terminate and and =
then restart.

3. If that still doesn=E2=80=99t do it, then deleting and =
re-downloading.

There are some IETF server issues that aren=E2=80=99t totally resolved =
that cause aborts when syncing but it should retry after suspending and =
resuming and eventually sync.

Tom

> On Mar 24, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Fred Baker (fred)  wrote:
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> Question, Tom - I updated the app on my iPhone, and opened it. As =
expected, it spent some time fondling the network. Now it sits and =
stares at me; the only words on the screen are "IETF 94", and looking at =
settings, I don't see a means to select "IETF 95".
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Mike,
	That was not intentional. There should be a timeout (although it =
might be too long). I will test it and get an update out.

Thanks,
Tom


> On Mar 24, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Michael StJohns  =
wrote:
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> On 3/24/2016 9:28 AM, Tom Pusateri wrote:
>=20
> Hi Tom -
>=20
> Thanks as always for the update, but I really wish you'd have provided =
this as a new app/separate beta given how much has changed.  I've =
already found one issue that's very problematic - if you have no network =
access, the app blocks trying to load - even if it has a reasonably =
current database.   That means no access in airplane mode.  It also =
means that if you disable the app's access to cellular data (e.g. to =
avoid roaming charges),  and you're not on Wifi - again, no access.
>=20
> As far as I can tell, there's no timeout set for the network check =
either.
>=20
> Or am I missing some settings somewhere?
>=20
> Later, Mike
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> The new update of the IETFers app is ready to download. As you will =
see in the release notes, this one has been rewritten to synchronize =
with the IETF database. The first time you run it, it will take some =
time so be patient. Also, it will not automatically switch meetings, you =
have to do that in Settings. The first time you switch to a new meeting, =
it also will have a noticeable delay. We will work to make these delays =
shorter.
>>=20
>> On the bright side, this app will work for future meetings. As soon =
as the new meetings and sessions are published, it will discover them.
>>=20
>> There are certain features that I wasn=92t able to replicate using =
the database including audio streaming and playback, jabber log =
synchronization, and maps. If you would like to see missing features =
brought back, let me know and I will work with the tools team to make it =
possible.
>>=20
>> The import favorites from previous meeting also got left out due to =
time pressure to get this version released. It will be back in the next =
release.
>>=20
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>> Tom
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Mike,
	That was not intentional. There =
should be a timeout (although it might be too long). I will test it and =
get an update out.

Thanks,
Tom


On Mar 24, 2016, at 1:51 PM, =
Michael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com> wrote:


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On 3/24/2016 9:28 AM, Tom Pusateri
      wrote:

      

      Hi Tom - 

      

      Thanks as always for the update, but I really wish you'd have
      provided this as a new app/separate beta given how much has
      changed.  I've already found one issue that's very =
problematic -
      if you have no network access, the app blocks trying to load -
      even if it has a reasonably current database.   That =
means no
      access in airplane mode.  It also means that if you disable =
the
      app's access to cellular data (e.g. to avoid roaming =
charges), 
      and you're not on Wifi - again, no access.

      

      As far as I can tell, there's no timeout set for the network check
      either.

      

      Or am I missing some settings somewhere?

      

      Later, Mike

      

      

      

    

    

      
The new update of the IETFers app is =
ready to download. As you will see in the release notes, this one has =
been rewritten to synchronize with the IETF database. The first time you =
run it, it will take some time so be patient. Also, it will not =
automatically switch meetings, you have to do that in Settings. The =
first time you switch to a new meeting, it also will have a noticeable =
delay. We will work to make these delays shorter.

On the bright side, this app will work for future meetings. As soon as =
the new meetings and sessions are published, it will discover them.

There are certain features that I wasn=92t able to replicate using the =
database including audio streaming and playback, jabber log =
synchronization, and maps. If you would like to see missing features =
brought back, let me know and I will work with the tools team to make it =
possible.

The import favorites from previous meeting also got left out due to time =
pressure to get this version released. It will be back in the next =
release.

Thanks,
Tom




      

      

      

      
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Tom Pusateri wrote:
> The new update of the IETFers app is ready to download. As you will see in the release notes, this one has been rewritten to synchronize with the IETF database. The first time you run it, it will take some time so be patient. Also, it will not automatically switch meetings, you have to do that in Settings. The first time you switch to a new meeting, it also will have a noticeable delay. We will work to make these delays shorter.

Hi,

There is a graphical glitch in the Android version. When scrolling the
list of sessions slowly the text labels are smeared, making it difficult
to read when the list is in motion. It's hard to take a screenshot of
the behavior, because it disappears when scrolling stops.

This is on a Nexus 5X running Android 6.0.1.

-- 
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> Relax. No need to worry. And enjoy Buenos Aires!

My email wasn't intended to suggest I was concerned. I was just trying to p=
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ate in Argentina. I like to know about both history and current events in p=
laces where I travel, because that gives insight into what I see around me.=
 I don't just want to see the external fa=E7ade of Buenos Aires -- I want t=
o see the people and understand who they are and how they see themselves, t=
he world, and their place in the world. I assure you, I have every intentio=
n of enjoying Buenos Aires.=20

[I also appreciated the info Alexis gave about reasons for the education wo=
rkers strike. It provided a perspective that while us foreigners are rejoic=
ing that we can now get pesos from ATMs, the economic reforms that made tha=
t happen are causing some people pain.]
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There is a free bike service in Buenos aires=20

http://www.discoverbuenosaires.com/buenos-aires-tourist-bicycle-rental

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> On Mar 24, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Darshak Thakore  =
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> Hi all,
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> Based on the bike lanes map below, it looks like its possible to bike =
from
> most of the hotels in the 2 km radius to the venue. Does anyone have =
an
> idea about what it would cost to rent a bike for the whole week ?
> Also any cons to renting it for the week as opposed to renting it per =
day?
> (like overnight storage etc)
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> Any good/known bike rental locations would also be helpful.
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> Regards,
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> On 2/10/16, 3:26 PM, "Rodolfo Miranda"  wrote:
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>> Official bike exclusive lanes:
>> http://www.buenosaires.gob.ar/ecobici/pedalea-la-ciudad
>> Cycling over those lanes is safe and fast.
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>> Rodolfo
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>>> El feb 10, 2016, a las 7:17 PM, Darshak Thakore
>>>  escribi=C3=B3:
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>>> Thanks a lot for the info.
>>>=20
>>> I was hoping that if biking is possible, I can stay at the Anselmo
>>> Buenos
>>> Aires (Don Anselmo Aieta 1069, C1103AAA CABA, Argentina) which is =
about
>>> 2
>>> miles from Hilton. There seem to be quite a few boutique hotels with
>>> good
>>> pricing around that area.
>>> The subway does not seem to be a good option from that area coz =
(atleast
>>> on google maps) its showing the same commute time (about 26 min) as
>>> walking (about 29 min)
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Darshak
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>>>=20
>>>> On 2/10/16, 2:49 PM, "Fernando Gont"  wrote:
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>>>>> On 02/10/2016 03:49 PM, Darshak Thakore wrote:
>>>>> So instead of renting a car, would it be considered =C2=B3wise?=C2=B2=
 to rent a
>>>>> bike (as in a bicycle) so that folks who were not lucky enough to =
get
>>>>> accomodation in Hilton can get accomodation in the 2 mile radius =
(and
>>>>> there are plenty of good options there) and bike back and forth ?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On google maps, when I put biking directions from one of the
>>>>> neighborhood hotels to Hilton, it didn=C2=B9t give me any routes =
but wanted
>>>>> to know if its allowed/ok to bike on the pavement ?
>>>>=20
>>>> In most cases, I'd recommend metro, or walk.
>>>>=20
>>>> Depending on the type of transit that you're used to, and whre your
>>>> hotel is, there might be no bike lane, and things could be, say
>>>> stressing for you.
>>>>=20
>>>> If you can comment on the area that you'll be staying (e.g., street
>>>> intersection) I could help with a best option to get to the hilton
>>>> (walk, bike, bus, metro, or cab).
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> --=20
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>>>> e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com
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You can keep it for an hour, then you have to return it, wait for 15 =
min, and can rent again for another hour. The bikes are all over the =
city, so you can take and leave it at any bike rack.

> On Mar 24, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Darshak Thakore  =
wrote:
>=20
> I read somewhere that the free rental is only for a limited/certain =
number
> of hours. Is that not true ?
> Is it allowed to keep the bike overnight or do we have to return it in =
a
> certain amount of time ?
>=20
> Thanks,
> Darshak
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> On 3/24/16, 5:26 PM, "Dean Bogdanovic"  wrote:
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>> There is a free bike service in Buenos aires
>>=20
>> =
http://www.discoverbuenosaires.com/buenos-aires-tourist-bicycle-rental
>>=20
>> Dean
>>=20
>>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Darshak Thakore =

>>> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Hi all,
>>>=20
>>> Based on the bike lanes map below, it looks like its possible to =
bike
>>> from
>>> most of the hotels in the 2 km radius to the venue. Does anyone have =
an
>>> idea about what it would cost to rent a bike for the whole week ?
>>> Also any cons to renting it for the week as opposed to renting it =
per
>>> day?
>>> (like overnight storage etc)
>>>=20
>>> Any good/known bike rental locations would also be helpful.
>>>=20
>>> Regards,
>>> Darshak
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On 2/10/16, 3:26 PM, "Rodolfo Miranda"  wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> Official bike exclusive lanes:
>>>> http://www.buenosaires.gob.ar/ecobici/pedalea-la-ciudad
>>>> Cycling over those lanes is safe and fast.
>>>>=20
>>>> Rodolfo
>>>>=20
>>>>> El feb 10, 2016, a las 7:17 PM, Darshak Thakore
>>>>>  escribi=C3=B3:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks a lot for the info.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I was hoping that if biking is possible, I can stay at the Anselmo
>>>>> Buenos
>>>>> Aires (Don Anselmo Aieta 1069, C1103AAA CABA, Argentina) which is
>>>>> about
>>>>> 2
>>>>> miles from Hilton. There seem to be quite a few boutique hotels =
with
>>>>> good
>>>>> pricing around that area.
>>>>> The subway does not seem to be a good option from that area coz
>>>>> (atleast
>>>>> on google maps) its showing the same commute time (about 26 min) =
as
>>>>> walking (about 29 min)
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Darshak
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On 2/10/16, 2:49 PM, "Fernando Gont"  =
wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On 02/10/2016 03:49 PM, Darshak Thakore wrote:
>>>>>>> So instead of renting a car, would it be considered =C2=B3wise?=C2=
=B2 to rent
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> bike (as in a bicycle) so that folks who were not lucky enough =
to
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> accomodation in Hilton can get accomodation in the 2 mile radius
>>>>>>> (and
>>>>>>> there are plenty of good options there) and bike back and forth =
?
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On google maps, when I put biking directions from one of the
>>>>>>> neighborhood hotels to Hilton, it didn=C2=B9t give me any routes =
but
>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>> to know if its allowed/ok to bike on the pavement ?
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> In most cases, I'd recommend metro, or walk.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Depending on the type of transit that you're used to, and whre =
your
>>>>>> hotel is, there might be no bike lane, and things could be, say
>>>>>> stressing for you.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> If you can comment on the area that you'll be staying (e.g., =
street
>>>>>> intersection) I could help with a best option to get to the =
hilton
>>>>>> (walk, bike, bus, metro, or cab).
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> --=20
>>>>>> Fernando Gont
>>>>>> e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com
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I know this is not an usual requirement, but I may have to buy something li=
ke Raspberry Pi, etc in BA.

Could someone give me some advice for that, like which store, location, dis=
tance to IETF venue etc?

Thanks!


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I am wondering if it is possible to do a 2 day/1 night side trip to Iguazu =
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a) What are my travel choices=
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b) Is it better stay in the ci=
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c) Any particular hotel recommendati=
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a) What are my travel choices from city to the falls and forth.
Arrange a taxi with the concierge. You have a hotel inside the falls park

b) Is it better stay in the city or near the national park
the city has nothing to do besides a couple restaurant, i would recommend a h=
ostel in the jungle as La Cantera for example

c) Any particular hotel recommendation.
http://www.hotellacanteraiguazu.com/mb/

d) There are two airline serving the city of Iguazu, are they all same or I s=
hould prefer one over another.
I think they are the same

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a) What are my travel choices from city to the falls=
 and forth.
Arrange a taxi with the concierge. You have a hotel inside the fa=
lls park

b) Is it better stay in the city or near the national park
the ci=
ty has nothing to do besides a couple restaurant, i would recommend a hostel=
 in the jungle as La Cantera for example

c) Any particular hotel recommen=
dation.

d) There are two airline s=
erving the city of Iguazu, are they all same or I should prefer one over ano=
ther.
I think they are the same
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On 24 mar 2016, at 10:00 p.m., sam rack <smajee-ietf@outlook.com> wrote:





Hello,

I am wondering if it is possible t=
o do a 2 day/1 night side trip to Iguazu falls from BA.? There are plenty of=
 flights every day. 
If anybody has done this trip before or h=
as planned it, I am really interested to know following,

a) What are my travel choices from city to the falls and forth.
<=
div>b) Is it better stay in the city or near the national park
c) A=
ny particular hotel recommendation.
d) There are two airline servi=
ng the city of Iguazu, are they all same or I should prefer one over another=
.

I always wanted to visit the Falls, so I would lo=
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The city service is not working at this moment, you should ask your hotel, m=
any has free bikes

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> On 24 mar 2016, at 8:26 p.m., Dean Bogdanovic  wrote:
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> There is a free bike service in Buenos aires=20
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> http://www.discoverbuenosaires.com/buenos-aires-tourist-bicycle-rental
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> Dean
>=20
>> On Mar 24, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Darshak Thakore  wr=
ote:
>>=20
>> Hi all,
>>=20
>> Based on the bike lanes map below, it looks like its possible to bike fro=
m
>> most of the hotels in the 2 km radius to the venue. Does anyone have an
>> idea about what it would cost to rent a bike for the whole week ?
>> Also any cons to renting it for the week as opposed to renting it per day=
?
>> (like overnight storage etc)
>>=20
>> Any good/known bike rental locations would also be helpful.
>>=20
>> Regards,
>> Darshak
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On 2/10/16, 3:26 PM, "Rodolfo Miranda"  wrote:
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>>> Official bike exclusive lanes:
>>> http://www.buenosaires.gob.ar/ecobici/pedalea-la-ciudad
>>> Cycling over those lanes is safe and fast.
>>>=20
>>> Rodolfo
>>>=20
>>>> El feb 10, 2016, a las 7:17 PM, Darshak Thakore
>>>>  escribi=C3=B3:
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks a lot for the info.
>>>>=20
>>>> I was hoping that if biking is possible, I can stay at the Anselmo
>>>> Buenos
>>>> Aires (Don Anselmo Aieta 1069, C1103AAA CABA, Argentina) which is about=

>>>> 2
>>>> miles from Hilton. There seem to be quite a few boutique hotels with
>>>> good
>>>> pricing around that area.
>>>> The subway does not seem to be a good option from that area coz (atleas=
t
>>>> on google maps) its showing the same commute time (about 26 min) as
>>>> walking (about 29 min)
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Darshak
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>>> On 2/10/16, 2:49 PM, "Fernando Gont"  wrote:
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>>>>>> On 02/10/2016 03:49 PM, Darshak Thakore wrote:
>>>>>> So instead of renting a car, would it be considered =C2=B3wise?=C2=B2=
 to rent a
>>>>>> bike (as in a bicycle) so that folks who were not lucky enough to get=

>>>>>> accomodation in Hilton can get accomodation in the 2 mile radius (and=

>>>>>> there are plenty of good options there) and bike back and forth ?
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On google maps, when I put biking directions from one of the
>>>>>> neighborhood hotels to Hilton, it didn=C2=B9t give me any routes but w=
anted
>>>>>> to know if its allowed/ok to bike on the pavement ?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> In most cases, I'd recommend metro, or walk.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Depending on the type of transit that you're used to, and whre your
>>>>> hotel is, there might be no bike lane, and things could be, say
>>>>> stressing for you.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> If you can comment on the area that you'll be staying (e.g., street
>>>>> intersection) I could help with a best option to get to the hilton
>>>>> (walk, bike, bus, metro, or cab).
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> --=20
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>>>>> e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com
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The city service is not working at thi=
s moment, you should ask your hotel, many has free bikes

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On 24 mar 2016, a=
t 8:26 p.m., Dean Bogdanovic <dean@vo=
ltanet.io> wrote:

T=
here is a free bike service in Buenos aires 

http://www.discoverbuenosaires.com/buenos-aires-tourist-bicycle-ren=
tal

Dean

On Mar 24, 2016, at 7:24 PM, Darshak Thakore &l=
t;d.thakore@cablelabs.com>=
 wrote:

Hi all,

Based on the bike lanes map below, it looks like its possible to b=
ike from
most of the h=
otels in the 2 km radius to the venue. Does anyone have an
idea about what it would cost to rent a=
 bike for the whole week ?
=
Also any cons to renting it for the week as opposed to renting it per d=
ay?
(like overnight s=
torage etc)
Any good/known bike rental lo=
cations would also be helpful.

Regards,
Darshak



On 2/10/16, 3:26 PM=
, "Rodolfo Miranda" <rm@dlocorp.com=
> wrote:
Off=
icial bike exclusive lanes:
http://www.buenosaires.gob.ar/ecobici/p=
edalea-la-ciudad
Cycling over those lanes is safe and f=
ast.

Rodolfo
<=
br>
El feb 10, 2016, a las 7:17 PM, Darshak=
 Thakore
<d.thakore@cablelabs.com> escribi=C3=
=B3:

Thanks a lot for the info.

=

I was hoping that if biking is possible, I=
 can stay at the Anselmo
=
Buenos
Aires (=
Don Anselmo Aieta 1069, C1103AAA CABA, Argentina) which is about
<=
/blockquote>
2
miles from Hilton. There seem to be quite a few b=
outique hotels with
good
pricing aroun=
d that area.
The su=
bway does not seem to be a good option from that area coz (atleast
on google maps) its showing t=
he same commute time (about 26 min) as
<=
/blockquote>
walking (about 29 min)

<=
span>
Darshak

=


On 2/10/16, 2:49 PM, "Fernando Gon=
t" <fernando@gont.com.ar> w=
rote:

=

On 0=
2/10/2016 03:49 PM, Darshak Thakore wrote:
So instead of renting a car, would it be considere=
d =C2=B3wise?=C2=B2 to rent a
bike (as in a bicycle) so that folks who were not lucky enough t=
o get
accomodatio=
n in Hilton can get accomodation in the 2 mile radius (and
there are plenty of good options ther=
e) and bike back and forth ?

<=
/blockquote>
On go=
ogle maps, when I put biking directions from one of the
neighborhood hotels to Hilton, it did=
n=C2=B9t give me any routes but wanted
<=
/blockquote>
to know if its allowed/ok to bike on the pavement ?

In most cases, I'd recomm=
end metro, or walk.

=

Depending on the=
 type of transit that you're used to, and whre your
<=
/blockquote>
hotel=
 is, there might be no bike lane, and things could be, say
stressing for you.

If you can co=
mment on the area that you'll be staying (e.g., street
i=
ntersection) I could help with a best option to get to the hilton
=

(walk, bike, bus, metro, or cab).

<=
/blockquote>
Thanks,
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Hi Miao Fuyou,

Argentina is not best place to buy electronic devices. Generally, the
prices are higher and products are scarce.
A possible place is "Galer=C3=ADa Jard=C3=ADn" . This is located in 559 Flo=
rida
Street.
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Regards,

Cristian


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fuyou.miao@huawei.com> wrote:

>
>
> I know this is not an usual requirement, but I may have to buy something
> like Raspberry Pi, etc in BA.
>
>
>
> Could someone give me some advice for that, like which store, location,
> distance to IETF venue etc?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> -        Miao
>
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Hi Miao Fuyou,

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quot; . This is located in 559 Florida Street.=C2=A0http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=3D-34.601528,-5=
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Regards,

Cristian


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I know this is not an usual=
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Sam,

                I'm doing this trip after the IETF meeting.  As you note,
flights are pretty easy.

 

1)      Taxis and buses are available from Puerto Iguazu.  I'll probably be
using a taxi.  Your hotel may be able to arrange a driver who will wait for
you as well while you tour the park.  That doesn't seem to be a lot more
expensive than just using a regular taxi.  NB, if you go over to the Brazil
side of the park, you will need a Brazilian visa (USD 160 for US citizens).
You can arrange such a visa in Buenos Aires with a bit of preplanning (make
an appointment now, assemble the paperwork, do the online bits).  Much
quicker than doing it in the US too.

2)      I'm staying at the Hotel Mercure Iru Iguazu in the city (but on the
outskirts of the city and surrounded by jungle).  Cheaper than staying at
the Sheraton in the park or the Hotel das Cataratas in the Brazil side of
the park, by far.

3)      I used TripAdvisor reviews to determine that the Mercure was
probably a good choice for me.  It's not close enough to town that you'll
have a lot of restaurant choices, however.

4)      Aerolinas Argentinas is what I'm taking.  There's a cheaper,
federally subsidized airline from what I've read, but I couldn't figure out
how to book it easily, whereas Orbitz could handle Aerolinas Argentinas.
At USD 175 roundtrip, it's not that expensive either.

 

If you "collect" countries visited, Paraguay can be easily reached from Foz
do Iguacu, Brazil.  That too will officially require a visa ($160), so
consider if it is worth it.  Collecting Uruguay from Buenos Aires, on the
other hand, should be just the cost of the ferry ride.

 

                                                -Peter

 

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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:01 PM
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Subject: [95attendees] Iguazu falls side trip

 

Hello,

 

I am wondering if it is possible to do a 2 day/1 night side trip to Iguazu
falls from BA.? There are plenty of flights every day. 

If anybody has done this trip before or has planned it, I am really
interested to know following,

 

a) What are my travel choices from city to the falls and forth.

b) Is it better stay in the city or near the national park

c) Any particular hotel recommendation.

d) There are two airline serving the city of Iguazu, are they all same or I
should prefer one over another.

 

I always wanted to visit the Falls, so I would love to hear your
suggestions.


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driver who will wait for you as well while you tour the park.  That =
doesn’t seem to be a lot more expensive than just using a regular =
taxi.  NB, if you go over to the Brazil side of the park, you will =
need a Brazilian visa (USD 160 for US citizens).  You can arrange =
such a visa in Buenos Aires with a bit of preplanning (make an =
appointment now, assemble the paperwork, do the online bits).  Much =
quicker than doing it in the US too.
2)      =
I’m staying at the Hotel Mercure Iru Iguazu in the city (but on =
the outskirts of the city and surrounded by jungle).  Cheaper than =
staying at the Sheraton in the park or the Hotel das Cataratas in the =
Brazil side of the park, by far.
3)      =
I used TripAdvisor reviews to determine that the Mercure was probably =
a good choice for me.  It’s not close enough to town that =
you’ll have a lot of restaurant choices, =
however.
4)      =
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Check Prices in Advance at http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/

I guess there is some way of open an account without being a citizen. It is
not Amazon, but probably you dig there, you can get the best available
price. It  does not mean it is going to be a good price.

When searching, be sure to select the option of Capital Federal (for
location), so you can be sure you can get it delivered on time.

Sorry, web page will be in spanish :-(

Regards,

*HERN=C3=81N ARCIDI=C3=81CONO *
Director de Tecnolog=C3=ADa y Operaciones

Virrey Cevallos 422 | C1077AAJ | Bs As | Argentina
Directo: 54-11-5031-6411
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2016-03-25 13:59 GMT-03:00 Cristian F. Perez Monte :

> Hi Miao Fuyou,
>
> Argentina is not best place to buy electronic devices. Generally, the
> prices are higher and products are scarce.
> A possible place is "Galer=C3=ADa Jard=C3=ADn" . This is located in 559 F=
lorida
> Street.
> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=3D-34.601528,-58.375111&spn=3D0.01,0.01&t=
=3Dm&q=3D-34.601528,-58.375111
>
> Regards,
>
> Cristian
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 3:11 AM, Miaofuyou (Miao Fuyou) <
> fuyou.miao@huawei.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I know this is not an usual requirement, but I may have to buy something
>> like Raspberry Pi, etc in BA.
>>
>>
>>
>> Could someone give me some advice for that, like which store, location,
>> distance to IETF venue etc?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> -        Miao
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> 95attendees@ietf.org
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ot Amazon, but probably you dig there, you can get the best available price=
. It =C2=A0does not mean it is going to be a good price.

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Sorry, web page will be in spanish :-(

<=
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2016-03-25 13:59 GMT-03:00 Cristian F. Perez=
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=

Hi Miao Fuyou,

Argentina is not b=
est place to buy electronic devices. Generally, the prices are higher and p=
roducts are scarce.
A possible place is "Galer=C3=ADa Jard=C3=ADn&=
quot; . This is located in 559 Florida Street.=C2=A0http://maps.google.com/maps?=
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,-58.375111

Regards,

=
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 3:11 AM, Miaofuy=
ou (Miao Fuyou) <fuyou.miao@huawei.com> wrote:
=












=C2=A0=



I know this is not an usual=
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Hello I agree that the best places are " mercadolibre.com.ar " to buy
online and Galeria Jardin to personally go , as Buenos Aires does not
have very good prices internationally.

Greetings.
Luciano.


2016-03-25 16:41 GMT-03:00 Hernan Arcidiacono :

> Check Prices in Advance at http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/
>
> I guess there is some way of open an account without being a citizen. It
> is not Amazon, but probably you dig there, you can get the best available
> price. It  does not mean it is going to be a good price.
>
> When searching, be sure to select the option of Capital Federal (for
> location), so you can be sure you can get it delivered on time.
>
> Sorry, web page will be in spanish :-(
>
> Regards,
>
> *HERN=C3=81N ARCIDI=C3=81CONO *
> Director de Tecnolog=C3=ADa y Operaciones
>
> Virrey Cevallos 422 | C1077AAJ | Bs As | Argentina
> Directo: 54-11-5031-6411
> *IPLAN* | iplan.com.ar 
>
> 2016-03-25 13:59 GMT-03:00 Cristian F. Perez Monte :
>
>> Hi Miao Fuyou,
>>
>> Argentina is not best place to buy electronic devices. Generally, the
>> prices are higher and products are scarce.
>> A possible place is "Galer=C3=ADa Jard=C3=ADn" . This is located in 559 =
Florida
>> Street.
>> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=3D-34.601528,-58.375111&spn=3D0.01,0.01&t=
=3Dm&q=3D-34.601528,-58.375111
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Cristian
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 3:11 AM, Miaofuyou (Miao Fuyou) <
>> fuyou.miao@huawei.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know this is not an usual requirement, but I may have to buy somethin=
g
>>> like Raspberry Pi, etc in BA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Could someone give me some advice for that, like which store, location,
>>> distance to IETF venue etc?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -        Miao
>>>
>>>
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Hello I agree that the best places are " mercadolibre.com.ar " to buy online and Galeria =
Jardin to personally go , as Buenos Aires does not have very good prices in=
ternationally.

Greetings.
Luciano.

2016-03-25 16:41 GMT-03:00 Hernan Arcidiacono &=
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ono@iplan.com.ar>:
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I guess there is some way of open an account without being a citize=
n. It is not Amazon, but probably you dig there, you can get the best avail=
able price. It =C2=A0does not mean it is going to be a good price.

When searching, be sure to select the option of Capital Fe=
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Sorry, web page will be in spanish :-(
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Regards,

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2016-03-25 13:59 GMT-03:00 Cristian F. Perez=
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=

Hi Miao Fuyou,

Argentina is not b=
est place to buy electronic devices. Generally, the prices are higher and p=
roducts are scarce.
A possible place is "Galer=C3=ADa Jard=C3=ADn&=
quot; . This is located in 559 Florida Street.=C2=A0http://maps.google.com/maps?=
ll=3D-34.601528,-58.375111&spn=3D0.01,0.01&t=3Dm&q=3D-34.601528=
,-58.375111

Regards,

=
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=C2=A0=



I know this is not an usual=
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=C2=A0=



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=C2=A0=



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=


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Juan,

I am from the IETF Mentoring team.  Maybe we can assign you a mentor to help you figure out what sessions to attend and what might be the best day.   We are happy to do it.  Please sign up at:


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On Monday, we have our popular Speed Mentoring event, but it may be more important for you to go to the DNS, etc. sessions.  You could talk with your mentor about this, if you would like.
 
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Hi, all.

I've got a One Day Free-Pass, thanks to IETF 95 meeting group.
Deeply looking to the agenda, I plan to assist the Monday, April the )(4th...

In spite I'm working for a small ISP here, in Argentina, and in charge of the Inet infraestructure given to customers (Mail, webhosting, DNS, etc) services...

Do you agree that Monday is "My best" day to assist?

Thanks a lot.
Regards.
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I believe the original post was not so much about buying computers or
cameras but rather buying components, he specifically mentions a
Raspberry Pi.

On 3/25/16 5:16 PM, Luciano Minuchin wrote:
> Hello I agree that the best places are " mercadolibre.com.ar
>  " to buy online and Galeria Jardin to
> personally go , as Buenos Aires does not have very good prices
> internationally. Greetings. Luciano.
>
> 2016-03-25 16:41 GMT-03:00 Hernan Arcidiacono
> >:
>
>     Check Prices in Advance at http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/
>
>     I guess there is some way of open an account without being a
>     citizen. It is not Amazon, but probably you dig there, you can get
>     the best available price. It  does not mean it is going to be a
>     good price.
>
>     When searching, be sure to select the option of Capital Federal
>     (for location), so you can be sure you can get it delivered on time.
>
>     Sorry, web page will be in spanish :-(
>
>     Regards,
>
>     *HERNÁN ARCIDIÁCONO *
>     Director de Tecnología y Operaciones
>
>     Virrey Cevallos 422 | C1077AAJ | Bs As | Argentina
>     Directo: 54-11-5031-6411
>     *IPLAN* | iplan.com.ar 
>
>     2016-03-25 13:59 GMT-03:00 Cristian F. Perez Monte
>     >:
>
>         Hi Miao Fuyou,
>
>         Argentina is not best place to buy electronic devices.
>         Generally, the prices are higher and products are scarce.
>         A possible place is "Galería Jardín" . This is located in 559
>         Florida
>         Street. http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-34.601528,-58.375111&spn=0.01,0.01&t=m&q=-34.601528,-58.375111
>
>         Regards,
>
>         Cristian
>
>
>         On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 3:11 AM, Miaofuyou (Miao Fuyou)
>         > wrote:
>
>              
>
>             I know this is not an usual requirement, but I may have to
>             buy something like Raspberry Pi, etc in BA.
>
>              
>
>             Could someone give me some advice for that, like which
>             store, location, distance to IETF venue etc?
>
>              
>
>             Thanks!
>
>              
>
>             -        Miao
>
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    I believe the original post was not so much about buying
      computers or cameras but rather buying components, he specifically
      mentions a Raspberry Pi.

    

    
On 3/25/16 5:16 PM, Luciano Minuchin
      wrote:

    

    

      

        
Hello I agree that the best places are " mercadolibre.com.ar " to buy online and Galeria Jardin to personally go , as Buenos Aires does not have very good prices internationally.

Greetings.
Luciano.

      

      


        
2016-03-25 16:41 GMT-03:00 Hernan
          Arcidiacono <harcidiacono@iplan.com.ar>:

          

            
Check Prices in Advance at http://www.mercadolibre.com.ar/
              


              

              
I guess there is some way of open an account without
                being a citizen. It is not Amazon, but probably you dig
                there, you can get the best available price. It  does
                not mean it is going to be a good price.

              


              

              
When searching, be sure to select the option of
                Capital Federal (for location), so you can be sure you
                can get it delivered on time.

              


              

              
Sorry, web page will be in spanish :-(

              


              

              
Regards,

            

            


              

                

                  
HERNÁN
                      ARCIDIÁCONO 

                    Director
                        de Tecnología y Operaciones

                    

                    Virrey
                      Cevallos 422 | C1077AAJ | Bs As | Argentina

                    Directo:
                      54-11-5031-6411

                    IPLAN | iplan.com.ar

                  

                

              

              

              
2016-03-25 13:59 GMT-03:00
                Cristian F. Perez Monte <cdlt23@gmail.com>:

                

                  

                    
Hi Miao Fuyou,

                    


                    

                    Argentina is not best place to buy electronic
                    devices. Generally, the prices are higher and
                    products are scarce.
                    
A possible place is "Galería Jardín" . This is
                      located in 559 Florida Street. http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-34.601528,-58.375111&spn=0.01,0.01&t=m&q=-34.601528,-58.375111

                    


                    

                    
Regards,

                    


                    

                    
Cristian

                    


                    

                    


                      

                        

                          
On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 3:11 AM,
                            Miaofuyou (Miao Fuyou) <fuyou.miao@huawei.com>
                            wrote:

                          

                        

                        

                          

                            

                              

                                

                                  
 

                                  
I know this is not an
                                      usual requirement, but I may have
                                      to buy something like Raspberry
                                      Pi, etc in BA.
                                    

                                  
 

                                  
Could someone give me
                                      some advice for that, like which
                                      store, location, distance to IETF
                                      venue etc?
                                    

                                  
 

                                  
Thanks!
                                      

                                  
                                      
 

                                      

                                        -       
                                            Miao

                                      
 

                                    

                              

                              

                            

                          

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> I've got a One Day Free-Pass, thanks to IETF 95 meeting group.

cool!

> Deeply looking to the agenda, I plan to assist the Monday, April the
> )(4th...

what attracted you to monday?  if we understood that, we would be able
to have something on which to base recommendations.

> In spite I'm working for a small ISP here, in Argentina, and in charge
> of the Inet infraestructure given to customers (Mail, webhosting, DNS,
> etc) services...

you may also want to attend the (free) iepg meeting sunday at 10:00,
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> Do you agree that Monday is "My best" day to assist?

hard to say.  what interests you?

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The info on getting currency on the wiki is good, but are there any control=
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It seems everything got lifted back in December?

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Correct. Normal international limits apply.

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On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Tim Chown  wrote:
The info on getting currency on the wiki is good, but are there any 
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It seems everything got lifted back in December?

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info on getting currency on the wiki is good, but are there any controls on 
taking pesos in/out of the country now? 

It seems everything got 
lifted back in 
December?

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And the exchange rate is back to being a single one. You can pay with forei=
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And the exchange rate is back to being a single one. You can pay with foreign credit cards or use ATM s without any major exchange rate hit. (The normal fees apply)


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I guess the converse of this question is, are there are any special
restrictions/precautions on taking regular tech road warrior gear
through immigrations/customs/airport security at EZE that would be
notably different than other cities IETFs have been in ?

Keith

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> 2016-03-25 13:59 GMT-03:00 Cristian F. Perez Monte :
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>     Argentina is not best place to buy electronic devices. Generally,
>     the prices are higher and products are scarce.


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On 3/26/16 12:12 PM, Keith Mitchell wrote:
> I guess the converse of this question is, are there are any special
> restrictions/precautions on taking regular tech road warrior gear
> through immigrations/customs/airport security at EZE that would be
> notably different than other cities IETFs have been in ?

no it's the upwards to 35% import duty, and the pressure on the
availability of dollars for settlement  that were the issue.

> Keith
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>> 2016-03-25 13:59 GMT-03:00 Cristian F. Perez Monte :=

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>The info on getting currency on the wiki is good, but are there any controls on 
>taking pesos in/out of the country now? 

Just out of curiosity, why would you want to do that?  There's no
market for pesos anywhere outside Argentina.

I suppose you might have a few left over from a previous trip (I do)
but nobody cares about amounts that small.

R's,
John


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On 26 Mar 2016, at 19:34, "ietf@johnlevine.com"  wrote=
:

>> The info on getting currency on the wiki is good, but are there any cont=
rols on=20
>> taking pesos in/out of the country now?
>=20
> Just out of curiosity, why would you want to do that?  There's no
> market for pesos anywhere outside Argentina.

Because I might have some left over that I can change back at home at the p=
urchase rate, like visiting any other country, though I stock my own euros =
and us/cdn dollars.

> I suppose you might have a few left over from a previous trip (I do)
> but nobody cares about amounts that small.

I believe until December there were strict controls, hence the question.

Tim


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>> Just out of curiosity, why would you want to do that?  There's no
>> market for pesos anywhere outside Argentina.
>
>Because I might have some left over that I can change back at home at the purchase rate, like visiting any other country, though I stock my own euros and us/cdn dollars.

Just for fun, ask your UK bank if they buy Argentine pesos.  Or ask
Travelex at the airport.  If they'll do it at all, it's only at a
horrible rate.  For example, if you get 10,000 pesos at an ATM in
Argentina it'll cost you about £500, but the only place in London
where I can even find a rate would pay £421, and had a note saying to
check if they're buying at all.

Since Argentina's inflation rate is about 30%, holding on to them
for a future trip isn't such a great idea, either.

>I believe until December there were strict controls, hence the question.

There were, but those were to protect the country's small supply of
dollars.  Nobody cared about carrying peso cash.  The last two times I
went, they didn't ask.

R's,
John


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The Embassy of Argentina in the U.S. has a notice that U.S. citizens 
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While in theory you should declare and pay taxes for gifts and other valuables that will remain in the country that total over $300 (USD) the reality is that this only applies to Argentinians. Customs guys are very good at differentiating tourists from locals returning from a shopping spree in Miami. 


In general you'll be fine bringing one laptop, etc. But if you regularly travel with two or more laptops make sure they look used / have company "property of" stickers or just have plenty of old files in them. They just want to be sure it won't be a gift and stays in the country. Again, they do this at the discretion of the customs officer and tend to focus on locals returning rather than anyone else. 




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On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 12:27 PM -0700, "joel jaeggli"  wrote:










On 3/26/16 12:12 PM, Keith Mitchell wrote:
> I guess the converse of this question is, are there are any special
> restrictions/precautions on taking regular tech road warrior gear
> through immigrations/customs/airport security at EZE that would be
> notably different than other cities IETFs have been in ?

no it's the upwards to 35% import duty, and the pressure on the
availability of dollars for settlement  that were the issue.

> Keith
> 
> (searching his widget collection for AU/AR mains stuff..)
> 
>> 2016-03-25 13:59 GMT-03:00 Cristian F. Perez Monte :
>>
>>     Argentina is not best place to buy electronic devices. Generally,
>>     the prices are higher and products are scarce.
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While in theory you should declare and pay taxes for gifts and other valuables that will remain in the country that total over $300 (USD) the reality is that this only applies to Argentinians. Customs guys are very good at differentiating tourists from locals returning from a shopping spree in Miami. 


In general you'll be fine bringing one laptop, etc. But if you regularly travel with two or more laptops make sure they look used / have company "property of" stickers or just have plenty of old files in them. They just want to be sure it won't be a gift and stays in the country. Again, they do this at the discretion of the customs officer and tend to focus on locals returning rather than anyone else. 



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On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 12:27 PM -0700, "joel jaeggli" <joelja@gmail.com> wrote:













On 3/26/16 12:12 PM, Keith Mitchell wrote:
> I guess the converse of this question is, are there are any special
> restrictions/precautions on taking regular tech road warrior gear
> through immigrations/customs/airport security at EZE that would be
> notably different than other cities IETFs have been in ?

no it's the upwards to 35% import duty, and the pressure on the
availability of dollars for settlement  that were the issue.

> Keith
> 
> (searching his widget collection for AU/AR mains stuff..)
> 
>> 2016-03-25 13:59 GMT-03:00 Cristian F. Perez Monte :
>>
>>     Argentina is not best place to buy electronic devices. Generally,
>>     the prices are higher and products are scarce.
> 
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For those who did pay, any chance of getting our money back? If so, how?

Kireeti

> On Mar 27, 2016, at 16:00, Randall Gellens  wr=
ote:
>=20
> The Embassy of Argentina in the U.S. has a notice that U.S. citizens do n=
ot need to pay a reciprocity fee, as of march 24th:
>=20
> http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-=
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> --=20
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> Washington, building grassroots movements to march on their behalf,
> and using their media properties to run experiments on human credulity.
> --From the essay "Service Disobedience" by Thomas Frank in the February
> 2011 Harper's Magazine column "Easy Chair."
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If history teaches anything, there will be no way of getting it back.

On 3/28/16 10:36 AM, Kireeti Kompella wrote:
> For those who did pay, any chance of getting our money back? If so, how?
>
> Kireeti
>
>> On Mar 27, 2016, at 16:00, Randall Gellens  wrote:
>>
>> The Embassy of Argentina in the U.S. has a notice that U.S. citizens do not need to pay a reciprocity fee, as of march 24th:
>>
>> http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-citizens.html
>>
>> -- 
>> Randall Gellens
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>> -------------- Randomly selected tag: ---------------
>> [Some] billionaires [are] coming together under the leadership of Warren
>> Buffet and Bill Gates to donate their fortunes to worthy causes.... But
>> the billionaires with the strongest sense of class solidarity have an-
>> other plan for their disposable income: activating their lobbyists in
>> Washington, building grassroots movements to march on their behalf,
>> and using their media properties to run experiments on human credulity.
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>> 2011 Harper's Magazine column "Easy Chair."
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Greetings. I needed to change my reservations for the Hilton, and 
couldn't do anything on the Hilton site, so I called the HHonors folks, 
who admitted that they were having some significant problems with 
reservation changes, but I should call the hotel itself. I did so, 
talked to a friendly reservations person there (in English), she changed 
them no problem, and the change appeared immediately under my same 
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I seem to have an extra room at the Hilton at $186/night.  Let me 
know if you need it, before I cancel it.  It's for the full week but 
dates can usually be adjusted as well as the room transferred to your 
name.

-- 
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+1  Yes calling the hotel directly is best.  They were quite helpful =
when I called to change my arrival.

John B.
> On Mar 26, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Paul Hoffman  =
wrote:
>=20
> Greetings. I needed to change my reservations for the Hilton, and =
couldn't do anything on the Hilton site, so I called the HHonors folks, =
who admitted that they were having some significant problems with =
reservation changes, but I should call the hotel itself. I did so, =
talked to a friendly reservations person there (in English), she changed =
them no problem, and the change appeared immediately under my same =
confirmation number. So if you wanted to make changes but it seemed like =
you couldn't call the hotel directly.
>=20
> --Paul Hoffman
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The email address for reservations @ the BA Hilton  is BUEHI-Reservations@H=
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+1  Yes calling the hotel directly is best.  They were quite helpful when I=
 called to change my arrival.

John B.
> On Mar 26, 2016, at 7:54 PM, Paul Hoffman  wrote:
>=20
> Greetings. I needed to change my reservations for the Hilton, and couldn'=
t do anything on the Hilton site, so I called the HHonors folks, who admitt=
ed that they were having some significant problems with reservation changes=
, but I should call the hotel itself. I did so, talked to a friendly reserv=
ations person there (in English), she changed them no problem, and the chan=
ge appeared immediately under my same confirmation number. So if you wanted=
 to make changes but it seemed like you couldn't call the hotel directly.
>=20
> --Paul Hoffman
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On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Christian O'Flaherty
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>> Any advice on getting SIMs in Argentina?
>
> We will probably get free SIMs from Telefonica.
>
> Both micro and nano will be available (200 micro and 300 nano)
>
> They will be empty but there's a drugstore nearby where it can be loaded with 1.5GB for $7.
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> I will confirm here as soon as I get the  final confirmation from Telefonica.
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Has this been confirmed?

Behcet
> Christian
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>> When I was there last year for ICANN, we went into one of the 25hrs
>> stores on Florida and bought Personal SIM packs.  All the SIMs are
>> full sized so it's lucky one of us brought a SIM cutter to chop it
>> down to nano size.  There are reverse vending machines in the same
>> stores where you can buy credit, punch in your phone number, then feed
>> in cash.
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>> Has anything changed, e.g., now that there's only one exchange rate,
>> can you buy time with a foreign credit card?
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>> Better suggestions on where to get a SIM?  Are the deals at the
>> carriers' own stores any better?
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On 03/25/2016 07:11 AM, Miaofuyou (Miao Fuyou) wrote:
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> I know this is not an usual requirement, but I may have to buy something
> like Raspberry Pi, etc in BA.
> 
>  
> 
> Could someone give me some advice for that, like which store, location,
> distance to IETF venue etc?

Wrong place to buy electronics... for so many reasons, including price.

If you really need something for some sort of emergency, let me know.

Otherwise, don't buy electronics in argentina.

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Now, suppose you are desperate to buy electronics
such as a Raspberry Pi and similar devices, and you
are willing to pay a higher price tag, as the other
respondents said.
Then, you try the people from Yel:

http://www.yel.com.ar/

who are representatives of RS Components in Argentina,
they may have local stock. If they don't have stock, the
lead time may be too long to wait.

Regards,

                                        Diego

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Fernando Gont  wrote:

> On 03/25/2016 07:11 AM, Miaofuyou (Miao Fuyou) wrote:
> >
> >
> > I know this is not an usual requirement, but I may have to buy something
> > like Raspberry Pi, etc in BA.
> >
> >
> >
> > Could someone give me some advice for that, like which store, location,
> > distance to IETF venue etc?
>
> Wrong place to buy electronics... for so many reasons, including price.
>
> If you really need something for some sort of emergency, let me know.
>
> Otherwise, don't buy electronics in argentina.
>
> Cheers,
> --
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http://www.yel.com.ar/

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On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Fernando Gont <=
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>

>

> I know this is not an usual requirement, but I may have to buy somethi=
ng

> like Raspberry Pi, etc in BA.

>

>

>

> Could someone give me some advice for that, like which store, location=
,

> distance to IETF venue etc?



Wrong place to buy electronics... for so many reasons, including pri=
ce.



If you really need something for some sort of emergency, let me know.



Otherwise, don't buy electronics in argentina.



Cheers,

--

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e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar ||=
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Hello guys,

I am two weeks ago in Buenos Aires. Some personal observations:

a. Exchange: There is no currency exchange problem in Buenos Aires. 
There are numerous local officials to return, 15 minutes from the IETF 
95. Many restaurants accept dollar / euro and there is no significant 
difference between the exchange that practice such places, with local 
officials. Do not trade currencies with humans who offer exchange on the 
street (which are many!). Hardly the taxi driver will accept currency 
other than the peso. So always have a few pesos in hand (around $ 600 ~ 
US $ 40.00). I use XE App to view the exchange works well.

b. Bus / Subway: To use the bus you must buy a card called SUB. Not 
accepted currency in a bus. You buy the SUB in a newsstand ($25.00 ~ US$ 
1.69) and carries the SUB in the Subway Stations (SUBTE). A passing bus 
/ SUBTE costs something around 4 pesos ($ 4.00 ~ US$ 0.27).

c. A very interesting street is Florida Street (Calle Florida), near the 
IETF 95 (15 minutes walking). On Calle Florida and in the vicinity of 
their perpendicular streets has everything and anything. It is worth 
walking through it for some time. On Calle Florida are the Galerias 
Pacifico, the BookStore The Ateneo (see Miscellaneous Information in 
Wiki: 
https://www.ietf.org/registration/MeetingWiki/wiki/doku.php?id=ietf95&#miscellaneous_information).

d. Restaurants: It feeds very well in Buenos Aires. Near the IETF 95 in 
Puerto Madero (1-10 minutes), it has numerous good restaurants. Prices 
vary widely and ALL restaurants have references to food and prices at 
the entrance door (or gateway). Although the tip does not appear in the 
account, the attendants always wait for it (10%). If they realize that 
you are a tourist, practically, require tip.

Finally, I spent the last two weeks with no problem in Buenos Aires. 
Security is an issue that deserves our attention, like any other city in 
the world, without any special recommendation.

Cheers,

Julião


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Folks,

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>c. A very interesting street is Florida Street (Calle Florida), near the 
>IETF 95 (15 minutes walking). On Calle Florida and in the vicinity of 
>their perpendicular streets has everything and anything. It is worth 
>walking through it for some time. On Calle Florida are the Galerias 
>Pacifico, the BookStore The Ateneo

Calle Florida is indeed worth a visit if you want to go shopping, for
anything from a SIM topup to fancy leather gifts.  

The Ateneo is at Av. Santa Fe 1860, about a 20 minute walk west from
the north end of Florida.  It's quite amazing, as beautiful as it
looks in the pictures, but it's not nearby.

R's,
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As I'm already in BA I wonder if there are any games on this week?

      B=F6rje

22 mars 2016 kl. 18:11 skrev Guillermo Cicileo >:

Hi Kevin:

Boca Juniors will be playing at "La Bombonera" on Sunday for the Primera Di=
vision tournament but also on Thursday for Copa Libertadores. The match wil=
l begin at 7:30 PM. Most hotels usually sell tickets and could arrange tran=
sportation for you.

Regards,

      Guillermo.

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HI,

As this may be my only chance to see some live Argentinian football, I=92m =
looking at attending either River Plate vs. The Strongest in the Copa Liber=
tadores match on the Wednesday, or Boca vs Atl=E9tico Rafaela in the Primer=
a Divisi=F3n on the Sunday. Please can any BA locals provide tips on gettin=
g tickets for these members-only clubs?

Many thanks!
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As I'm already in BA I wonder if there are any games on this week?






      B=F6rje







Hi Kevin:






Boca Juniors will be playing at "La Bombonera" on Sunday for=
 the Primera Division tournament but also on Thursday for Copa Libertadores=
. The match will begin at 7:30 PM. Most hotels usually sell tickets and cou=
ld arrange transportation for you.







Regards,



      Guillermo.








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HI, 


 


As this may be my only chance to see some live Argen=
tinian football, I=92m looking at attending either River Plate vs. The Stro=
ngest in the Copa Libertadores match on the Wednesday, or Boca vs Atl=E9tic=
o Rafaela in the Primera Divisi=F3n on the
 Sunday. Please can any BA locals provide tips on getting tickets for these=
 members-only clubs?


 


Many thanks!



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On 03/29/2016 07:09 PM, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
>> c. A very interesting street is Florida Street (Calle Florida), near the 
>> IETF 95 (15 minutes walking). On Calle Florida and in the vicinity of 
>> their perpendicular streets has everything and anything. It is worth 
>> walking through it for some time. On Calle Florida are the Galerias 
>> Pacifico, the BookStore The Ateneo
> 
> Calle Florida is indeed worth a visit if you want to go shopping, for
> anything from a SIM topup to fancy leather gifts.  

Cale Florida is *THE* tourist trap. :-)

If folks are interested in buying stuff, I suggest asking beforehand, so
that we locals can provide advice.

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The Argentina national team is facing Bolivia tonight, but the game is in t=
he province of Cordoba. Still, go to a bar and watch the game with other pe=
ople, it is a good experience!

El 29 mar. 2016, a las 14:53, B=F6rje Ohlman > escribi=F3:

As I'm already in BA I wonder if there are any games on this week?

      B=F6rje

22 mars 2016 kl. 18:11 skrev Guillermo Cicileo >:

Hi Kevin:

Boca Juniors will be playing at "La Bombonera" on Sunday for the Primera Di=
vision tournament but also on Thursday for Copa Libertadores. The match wil=
l begin at 7:30 PM. Most hotels usually sell tickets and could arrange tran=
sportation for you.

Regards,

      Guillermo.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group > wrote:
HI,

As this may be my only chance to see some live Argentinian football, I'm lo=
oking at attending either River Plate vs. The Strongest in the Copa Liberta=
dores match on the Wednesday, or Boca vs Atl=E9tico Rafaela in the Primera =
Divisi=F3n on the Sunday. Please can any BA locals provide tips on getting =
tickets for these members-only clubs?

Many thanks!
Kevin


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The Argentina national team is facing Bolivia tonight, but the game is=
 in the province of Cordoba. Still, go to a bar and watch the game with oth=
er people, it is a good experience!




El 29 mar. 2016, a las 14:53, B=F6rje Ohlman <borje.ohlman@ericsson.com> escribi=F3:












As I'm already in BA I wonder if there are any games on this week?






      B=F6rje




22 mars 2016 kl. 18:11 skrev Guillermo Cicileo <gcicileo@gmail.com>:










Hi Kevin:






Boca Juniors will be playing at "La Bombonera" on Sunday for=
 the Primera Division tournament but also on Thursday for Copa Libertadores=
. The match will begin at 7:30 PM. Most hotels usually sell tickets and cou=
ld arrange transportation for you.







Regards,



      Guillermo.








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HI, 


 


As this may be my only chance to see some live Argen=
tinian football, I’m looking at attending either River Plate vs. The =
Strongest in the Copa Libertadores match on the Wednesday, or Boca vs Atl=
=E9tico Rafaela in the Primera Divisi=F3n on the
 Sunday. Please can any BA locals provide tips on getting tickets for these=
 members-only clubs?


 


Many thanks!



Kevin


 







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I'll post a longer email soon (right now swamped with stuff), but please
beware:

football matches in Argentina can be dangerous (dangerous= risk of
getting hurt, if not worse... (risk of pickpocketing... (2+)xParis :-) ).

If you think that going to a football match in Argentina is like going
to see vancouver canucks play against [whoevertheirrivalsare], then you
don't know what you're getting into.

Yes, lots of tourist go and see Boca play. And I've never heard of a
tourist getting into big trouble (injured, killed, or the like).

I'm not saying "don't do it". I'm just saying that folks planning to
attend should beware of what they are doing.

Quick rule of tumb: dress as simple as possible, strip any golden/silver
chains, keep your watch wallet in the hotel, and only take as much money
as necessary to get you back to your hotel. Besides, the less flashy
your shoes, the better. And don't bring your bright new Boca t-shirt...
it could be gone.

Particularly if you don't speak spanish, try to stay close to other
tourists, and the less people hear you talk in a different language, the
better.


(yes, if you get a pricey ticket, things can/may be different). And you
could just be lucky and the above nonsense. But hope for the best, and
plan for the worst.

Cheers,
Fernando




On 03/29/2016 07:44 PM, Börje Ohlman wrote:
> As I'm already in BA I wonder if there are any games on this week?
> 
>       Börje
> 
> 22 mars 2016 kl. 18:11 skrev Guillermo Cicileo  >:
> 
>> Hi Kevin:
>>
>> Boca Juniors will be playing at "La Bombonera" on Sunday for the
>> Primera Division tournament but also on Thursday for Copa
>> Libertadores. The match will begin at 7:30 PM. Most hotels usually
>> sell tickets and could arrange transportation for you.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>       Guillermo.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group
>> > wrote:
>>
>>     HI, ____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     As this may be my only chance to see some live Argentinian
>>     football, I’m looking at attending either River Plate vs. The
>>     Strongest in the Copa Libertadores match on the Wednesday, or Boca
>>     vs Atlético Rafaela in the Primera División on the Sunday. Please
>>     can any BA locals provide tips on getting tickets for these
>>     members-only clubs?____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     Many thanks!____
>>
>>     Kevin____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
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https://www.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=32&MNC=CING

"You may not be able to place calls to international destinations other than the United States while roaming in this destination. Calls can be completed within the visited destination and back to the United States"

Does anyone know more, eg: true/false ??

If it's true, then i'd spend some time trying to find a working SIP client for android (any recommendations ?)

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Sebastian Bellagamba 
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> The Argentina national team is facing Bolivia tonight, but the game is in
> the province of Cordoba. Still, go to a bar and watch the game with other
> people, it is a good experience!
>
> El 29 mar. 2016, a las 14:53, B=C3=B6rje Ohlman 
> escribi=C3=B3:
>
> As I'm already in BA I wonder if there are any games on this week?
>
>       B=C3=B6rje
>
> 22 mars 2016 kl. 18:11 skrev Guillermo Cicileo :
>
> Hi Kevin:
>
> Boca Juniors will be playing at "La Bombonera" on Sunday for the Primera
> Division tournament but also on Thursday for Copa Libertadores. The match
> will begin at 7:30 PM. Most hotels usually sell tickets and could arrange
> transportation for you.
>
> Regards,
>
>       Guillermo.
>
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group <
> Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com> wrote:
>
>> HI,
>>
>>
>>
>> As this may be my only chance to see some live Argentinian football, I=
=E2=80=99m
>> looking at attending either River Plate vs. The Strongest in the Copa
>> Libertadores match on the Wednesday, or Boca vs Atl=C3=A9tico Rafaela in=
 the
>> Primera Divisi=C3=B3n on the Sunday. Please can any BA locals provide ti=
ps on
>> getting tickets for these members-only clubs?
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks!
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
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The Argentina national team is facing Bolivia tonight, but the game is=
 in the province of Cordoba. Still, go to a bar and watch the game with oth=
er people, it is a good experience!




El 29 mar. 2016, a las 14:53, B=C3=B6rje Ohlman <borje.ohlman@ericsson.com> e=
scribi=C3=B3:












As I'm already in BA I wonder if there are any games on this week?=








=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 B=C3=B6rje




22 mars 2016 kl. 18:11 skrev Guillermo Cicileo <gcicileo@gmail.com>:










Hi Kevin:






Boca Juniors will be playing at "La Bombonera" on Sunday for=
 the Primera Division tournament but also on Thursday for Copa Libertadores=
. The match will begin at 7:30 PM. Most hotels usually sell tickets and cou=
ld arrange transportation for you.







Regards,



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Guillermo.








On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Smith, Kevin, (=
R&D) Vodafone Group
<Kevin.Smith@vodafone.com> wrote:








HI, 


=C2=A0


As this may be my only chance to see some live Argen=
tinian football, I=E2=80=99m looking at attending either River Plate vs. Th=
e Strongest in the Copa Libertadores match on the Wednesday, or Boca vs Atl=
=C3=A9tico Rafaela in the Primera Divisi=C3=B3n on the
 Sunday. Please can any BA locals provide tips on getting tickets for these=
 members-only clubs?


=C2=A0


Many thanks!<=
/u>



Kevin


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I travel to argentina on a regular basis (Argentina is where im from) and
I've used my ATT phone on calls to us / canada / europe without any issues
in the past.



On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Toerless Eckert  wrote:

>
> https://www.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=32&MNC=CING
>
> "You may not be able to place calls to international destinations other
> than the United States while roaming in this destination. Calls can be
> completed within the visited destination and back to the United States"
>
> Does anyone know more, eg: true/false ??
>
> If it's true, then i'd spend some time trying to find a working SIP client
> for android (any recommendations ?)
>
> Thanks
>     Toerless
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I travel to argentina on a regular basis (Argentina is whe=
re im from) and I've used my ATT phone on calls to us / canada / europe=
 without any issues in the past.



On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at =
11:20 AM, Toerless Eckert <eckert@cisco.com> wrote:
https://www.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?C=
IDL=3D32&MNC=3DCING



"You may not be able to place calls to international destinations othe=
r than the United States while roaming in this destination. Calls can be co=
mpleted within the visited destination and back to the United States"<=
br>


Does anyone know more, eg: true/false ??



If it's true, then i'd spend some time trying to find a working SIP=
 client for android (any recommendations ?)



Thanks

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Toerless



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Hi,

I plan to spend sometime walking around some areas of the city. (San
Telmo, La Boca, Palermo, Puerto Madero, Recoleta) in free time between
WGs. Sometimes it is likely that I will have a camera alongwith me (an
old 8-year DSLR and couple of lenses) and definitely phones for
directions (Google Maps).

I found that Buenos Aires is known for it's graffiti / Street art and
also want to take pictures of those. How safe is it to walk around
these areas (mentioned above and other areas) ? What times of the
day/night should we avoid those ? Do people mind their pictures being
taken ? In some countries people smile, others they look away, some
others they turn aggressive.

I will take the general precautions. Not walk around with bling and
avoid unsafe looking areas but some general guidance from the locals
will be useful.

Thanks
Vinayak

PS: Keeping fingers crossed and hoping that this doesn't turn into
"Prague is full of pickpocketers" thread. :)


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Those around Sunday may want to check out the San Telmo Sunday Fair.

It is miles long.  Ask the locals of the history/origin.

http://www.buenostours.com/feria-de-san-telmo-sundays

Will



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In article <20160329182046.GA31442@cisco.com> you write:
>https://www.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=32&MNC=CING

It probably depends on what plan you have.  When you called AT&T
customer service and asked them whether your plan allows calls to
third countries while roaming, what did they say?

>If it's true, then i'd spend some time trying to find a working SIP client for android (any recommendations ?)

I use CSipSimple.  Works great so long as the data connection has
enough bandwidth.  You do need an account with a SIP provider; they
have configs for dozens of them.  Or there's always Skype.

R's,
John


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I  was in Buenos Aries and stayed in San Telmo area and walked all around.
 I felt very safe - particularly in the day.



Like all big cities, avoid crimes of opportunity.  Other than that, enjoy.



Will



On 3/29/16, 3:45 PM, "95attendees on behalf of Vinayak Hegde"
<95attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of vinayakh@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I plan to spend sometime walking around some areas of the city. (San
>Telmo, La Boca, Palermo, Puerto Madero, Recoleta) in free time between
>WGs. Sometimes it is likely that I will have a camera alongwith me (an
>old 8-year DSLR and couple of lenses) and definitely phones for
>directions (Google Maps).
>
>I found that Buenos Aires is known for it's graffiti / Street art and
>also want to take pictures of those. How safe is it to walk around
>these areas (mentioned above and other areas) ? What times of the
>day/night should we avoid those ? Do people mind their pictures being
>taken ? In some countries people smile, others they look away, some
>others they turn aggressive.
>
>I will take the general precautions. Not walk around with bling and
>avoid unsafe looking areas but some general guidance from the locals
>will be useful.
>
>Thanks
>Vinayak
>
>PS: Keeping fingers crossed and hoping that this doesn't turn into
>"Prague is full of pickpocketers" thread. :)
>
>_______________________________________________
>95attendees mailing list
>95attendees@ietf.org
>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees


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Guys,

It would be great if we had some more Spanish speaking mentors.   We are getting mentees who could use a little help with language.

I think if we get 4 - 5 more mentors speaking Spanish, it will be great.  You can help introduce the mentees to whom they need to talk to in the WG.

Please contact me unicast if you can help.  It is OK if you are not in the same technical area as the mentee, if you help with the initial contact, that is great.

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On 03/29/2016 09:45 PM, Vinayak Hegde wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I plan to spend sometime walking around some areas of the city. (San
> Telmo, La Boca, Palermo, Puerto Madero, Recoleta) in free time between
> WGs. 

You don't walk around La Boca with a photo camera. And if you visit
Caminito, you stick to the few-blocks touristic spots., and head back no
later than, say 6PM.


> Sometimes it is likely that I will have a camera alongwith me (an
> old 8-year DSLR and couple of lenses) and definitely phones for
> directions (Google Maps).

If you walk around using a phone as a GPS, it's not unlikely that somene
will grab your phone and run away.



> I found that Buenos Aires is known for it's graffiti / Street art and
> also want to take pictures of those. How safe is it to walk around
> these areas (mentioned above and other areas) ?

If there's  people around, Palermo and Recoleta are generally fine. Same
applies to touristic spots in San Telmo. You don't visit La Boca at
night... and, generally speaking, is not an area where I'd be showing my
goodies around.



> What times of the
> day/night should we avoid those ?

La Boca/Caminito: shouldn't be there past, say, 7PM.

The other areas (assuming you're not in a dark corner) are generally fine.


"Generally fine" = risk of getting hurt is pretty low. (Pick pocketing
and that kind of stuff is bellow the threshold to make it to the
"security considerations).


> Do people mind their pictures being 
> taken ? In some countries people smile, others they look away, some
> others they turn aggressive.

I guess tht depends on how "invasive" your pictures are... but in any
case, it's hard to provide a general answer to this question.



> I will take the general precautions. Not walk around with bling and
> avoid unsafe looking areas but some general guidance from the locals
> will be useful.

I'm on a bus. Will post my guide in the next few ours -- keep an eye on
the mailing-ist for my announcement.




> PS: Keeping fingers crossed and hoping that this doesn't turn into
> "Prague is full of pickpocketers" thread. :)

If people complain aout pickpockets in Prague r Paris, I'll probably
unsubscribe from this list before Saturday. :-)

(More about this in the pipeline...)

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another option which works quite well for me is voipstunt.. which for
10Euro gives you 4 months of unlimited calls to the fixed phones of 60+
countries + mobiles of a few others (and the 10Euro remain as credit for
non-free calls, even after expiry). And it works also as a calling card of
sorts from land-lines with local access codes, etc. And they have an app
for IOS and Android (MobileVOIP)

On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:32 PM,  wrote:

> In article <20160329182046.GA31442@cisco.com> you write:
> >
> https://www.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=32&MNC=CING
>
> It probably depends on what plan you have.  When you called AT&T
> customer service and asked them whether your plan allows calls to
> third countries while roaming, what did they say?
>
> >If it's true, then i'd spend some time trying to find a working SIP
> client for android (any recommendations ?)
>
> I use CSipSimple.  Works great so long as the data connection has
> enough bandwidth.  You do need an account with a SIP provider; they
> have configs for dozens of them.  Or there's always Skype.
>
> R's,
> John
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another option which works quite well for me is voipstunt.=
. which for 10Euro gives you 4 months of unlimited calls to the fixed phone=
s of 60+ countries + mobiles of a few others (and the 10Euro remain as cred=
it for non-free calls, even after expiry). And it works also as a calling c=
ard of sorts from land-lines with local access codes, etc. And they have an=
 app for IOS and Android (MobileVOIP)

<=
div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 1:32 PM,  <ietf@johnle=
vine.com> wrote:
In artic=
le <20160329182046.G=
A31442@cisco.com> you write:

>https://ww=
w.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=3D32&MNC=3DCIN=
G



It probably depends on what plan you have.=C2=A0 When you called AT&T
customer service and asked them whether your plan allows calls to

third countries while roaming, what did they say?



>If it's true, then i'd spend some time trying to find a working=
 SIP client for android (any recommendations ?)



I use CSipSimple.=C2=A0 Works great so long as the data connection h=
as

enough bandwidth.=C2=A0 You do need an account with a SIP provider; they
have configs for dozens of them.=C2=A0 Or there's always Skype.



R's,

John




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Great to hear this! Thanks !!!

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Christian O'Flaherty 
wrote:

>
>
> I will confirm here as soon as I get the  final confirmation from
> Telefonica.
>
>
> Has this been confirmed?
>
>
> Yes, although I haven=E2=80=99t received them.
>
> I hope I can fully confirm on Wednesday.
>
> Christian
>
>
>
> Behcet
>
> Christian
>
>
> When I was there last year for ICANN, we went into one of the 25hrs
> stores on Florida and bought Personal SIM packs.  All the SIMs are
> full sized so it's lucky one of us brought a SIM cutter to chop it
> down to nano size.  There are reverse vending machines in the same
> stores where you can buy credit, punch in your phone number, then feed
> in cash.
>
> Has anything changed, e.g., now that there's only one exchange rate,
> can you buy time with a foreign credit card?
>
> Better suggestions on where to get a SIM?  Are the deals at the
> carriers' own stores any better?
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Great to hear this! Thanks !!!

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Christ=
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I will confirm here as soon as I get the =C2=A0final confirmation from Tele=
fonica.







Has
 this been confirmed?











Yes, although I haven=E2=80=99t received them.







I hope I can fully confirm on Wednesday.=C2=A0







Christian













Behcet



Christian






When I was there last year for ICANN, we went into one of the 25hrs

stores on Florida and bought Personal SIM packs.=C2=A0 All the SIMs are

full sized so it's lucky one of us brought a SIM cutter to chop it

down to nano size.=C2=A0 There are reverse vending machines in the same

stores where you can buy credit, punch in your phone number, then feed

in cash.



Has anything changed, e.g., now that there's only one exchange rate,
can you buy time with a foreign credit card?



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Fernando Gont wrote:
> If you walk around using a phone as a GPS, it's not unlikely that somene
> will grab your phone and run away.

Well, using a device with a map is something that is a reasonable thing
to do when visiting a foreign city.  Are you saying we need to revert to
paper maps for Buenos Aires?

(And while I have your attention: How would you characterize the area
between the subway station Leandro N. Alem and the Hilton?  It is
advisable to walk this stretch in the evening?  What is the preferred
way to use transit from the Hilton, anyway?)

Grüße, Carsten


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On 03/29/2016 11:50 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> Fernando Gont wrote:
>> If you walk around using a phone as a GPS, it's not unlikely that somene
>> will grab your phone and run away.
> 
> Well, using a device with a map is something that is a reasonable thing
> to do when visiting a foreign city.  Are you saying we need to revert to
> paper maps for Buenos Aires?

I'm saying that I wouldn't be surprised if someone grabs your phone and
runs away.

In the Hilton area (Puerto Madero) you will be fine. But e.g. if you go
around any crowded area while playing with your phone, it's likely that
you'll get busted. -- you just don't do it. -- and this applies no
matter what seurity measures you *think* you're taking -- folks that do
that are goodat what they do.


> (And while I have your attention: How would you characterize the area
> between the subway station Leandro N. Alem and the Hilton? 

Disneyland. :-)


>  It is  advisable to walk this stretch in the evening?

Yes. FWIW, for ages it has been my preferred choice if I want to have a
walk at night and not have to worry about security.



> What is the preferred
> way to use transit from the Hilton, anyway?)

In Buenos Aires, I'd say that, to the extent that is possible, take the
metro (Line B's Alem station or Line A's Plaza de Mayo are probably the
closest stations). Particularly at rush hour, bus or taxi are likely to
participate in traffic jams.

-- 
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my spouse are both in BA now.  we both have iphones with at&t sims
(getting local sims tomorrow).  texts between the two are black holed.

randy


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Well, using a device with a map is something that is a reasonable thing
to do when visiting a foreign city.  Are you saying we need to revert to
paper maps for Buenos Aires?

I tend to be careful taking my phone out while walking around in Raleigh do=
wntown ( NC, USA), let alone any foreign city.

One of my friends got his smartphones snatched from his hands in NYC while =
walking around.

Cheers,
Rajiv


On Mar 29, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Carsten Bormann > wrote:

Fernando Gont wrote:
If you walk around using a phone as a GPS, it's not unlikely that somene
will grab your phone and run away.

Well, using a device with a map is something that is a reasonable thing
to do when visiting a foreign city.  Are you saying we need to revert to
paper maps for Buenos Aires?

(And while I have your attention: How would you characterize the area
between the subway station Leandro N. Alem and the Hilton?  It is
advisable to walk this stretch in the evening?  What is the preferred
way to use transit from the Hilton, anyway?)

Gr??e, Carsten

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paper maps for Buenos Aires?






I tend to be careful taking my phone out while walking around in Raleigh do=
wntown ( NC, USA), let alone any foreign city.  







One of my friends got his smartphones snatch=
ed from his hands in NYC while walking around. 



Cheers,

Rajiv 












Fernando Gont wrote:


If you walk around using a phone as a GPS, =
it's not unlikely that somene




will grab your phone and run away.




Well, using a device with a map is something that is a reasonable thi=
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to do when visiting a foreign city.  Are you saying we need to r=
evert to

paper maps for Buenos Aires?



(And while I have your attention: How would you characterize the area=


between the subway station Leandro N. Alem and the Hilton?  It i=
s

advisable to walk this stretch in the evening?  What is the pref=
erred

way to use transit from the Hilton, anyway?)



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On 03/30/2016 12:44 AM, Rajiv Asati (rajiva) wrote:
>> Well, using a device with a map is something that is a reasonable thing
>> to do when visiting a foreign city.  Are you saying we need to revert to
>> paper maps for Buenos Aires?
> 
> I tend to be careful taking my phone out while walking around in Raleigh
> downtown ( NC, USA), let alone any foreign city.  

Exactly, that's the point: secure by default  ;-)

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On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 08:32:42PM +0000, ietf@johnlevine.com wrote:
> In article <20160329182046.GA31442@cisco.com> you write:
> >https://www.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=32&MNC=CING
> It probably depends on what plan you have.  When you called AT&T
> customer service and asked them whether your plan allows calls to
> third countries while roaming, what did they say?

Aaahh... ok. Silly me.
I would not have guessed that this is a call plan "feature".
By simple triangulation it should then work for me:

- I have been ale to make calls both directions when being overseas on my
  ATT SIMM into countries in europe (aka: Germant <-> Yokohama in November).
- ATTs travelguide gives the same note for eg: Japan.

If they simply would have written "Your ATT plan may not permit you to..."

> >If it's true, then i'd spend some time trying to find a working SIP client for android (any recommendations ?)
> 
> I use CSipSimple.  Works great so long as the data connection has
> enough bandwidth.  You do need an account with a SIP provider; they
> have configs for dozens of them.  Or there's always Skype.

Thanks. I'll try that when i need it.

Cheers
    Toerless


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So the upshot of this seems to be that if I want an excuse to get a new
phone, I should use my existing phone for finding my way around Buenos
Aires?=E2=80=8B

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So the upshot of this seems to be that if I want an excuse=
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On 03/30/2016 02:09 AM, Somers-Harris, David | David | OPS wrote:
> I’m going to be so mind blown, having grown up in Tokyo where we leave our iPhones on a seat to reserve it seats while we order at Starbucks...

Chances are that, if you try that in Buenos Aires, the first thing to be
blown could be your phone rather than your mind. :-))

Seriously... the world is a large place. If you travel thousands of
kilometers, don't expect to do things in exactly the same way you do
them at home. (I'm amazed by e.g. folks getting an overpriced starbucks
coffee over a proper espresso).

Thanks,
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> I=E2=80=99m going to be so mind blown, having grown up in Tokyo where we =
leave
> our iPhones on a seat to reserve it seats while we order at
> Starbucks...

in this, and other aspects, japan is not on the same planet.  in BA,
like many large european cities, it'll be snatch and run.  in some US
cities, it's simpler, they just kill you.

randy


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similar to many hotels in the states, the venue hilton is proud of its
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Possibly compensation.  Apparently they had a pretty rough summer.

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kidnapping phenomenon was pretty visible in the news last April, but I'm
not seeing anything more recent about it, and of course there's minimal
local context, like for example _where_ they were happening in Argentina.

(For those who haven't read about this, the main thing seems to have been
that criminals were posing as kidnappers and convincing people to send
relatively small ransoms to free their supposedly kidnapped relatives
visiting Argentina, but the relatives in question hadn't actually been
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Dean Bogdanovic  wrote:

> Are Argentinians proud of air conditioning in general, so everywhere will
> be on the cold side inside or just Hilton loves that?
>

I wouldn't say so... and with electricity rates in the raise by almost an
order of magnitude you shouldn't exaggerated air conditioning given we're
already into Fall.

For today and tomorrow it is expected that highs be almost 30=C2=B0C and lo=
ws
about 20=C2=B0C, but it will probably start raining on Saturday and next we=
ek
highs will likely be in the low 20's.

https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/10day/l/ARXX2519:1:AR

http://www.smn.gov.ar/?mod=3Dpron&id=3D4&provincia=3DCapital%20Federal&ciud=
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> Dean
>
> On Mar 30, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Ted Lemon  wrote:
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> Possibly compensation.  Apparently they had a pretty rough summer.
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Randy Bush  wrote:
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>> similar to many hotels in the states, the venue hilton is proud of its
>> air conditioning.  bring a sweater or light jacket.
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I wouldn't say so... and with electricity rates in the raise by almo=
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en we're already into Fall.

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be almost 30=C2=B0C and lows about 20=C2=B0C, but it will probably start ra=
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Very cold AC seems to be one of the permanent themes of these
[XXattendees] mailing lists. No surprises here :-)

On 3/30/16 9:16 AM, Mariano Absatz - el Baby wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Dean Bogdanovic  > wrote:
>
>     Are Argentinians proud of air conditioning in general, so
>     everywhere will be on the cold side inside or just Hilton loves that?
>
>
> I wouldn't say so... and with electricity rates in the raise by almost
> an order of magnitude you shouldn't exaggerated air conditioning given
> we're already into Fall.
>
> For today and tomorrow it is expected that highs be almost 30°C and
> lows about 20°C, but it will probably start raining on Saturday and
> next week highs will likely be in the low 20's. 
>
> https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/10day/l/ARXX2519:1:AR
>
> http://www.smn.gov.ar/?mod=pron&id=4&provincia=Capital%20Federal&ciudad=Buenos%20Aires
>
>
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>     Dean
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>>     On Mar 30, 2016, at 7:57 AM, Ted Lemon >     > wrote:
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>>     Possibly compensation.  Apparently they had a pretty rough summer.
>>
>>     On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Randy Bush >     > wrote:
>>
>>         similar to many hotels in the states, the venue hilton is
>>         proud of its
>>         air conditioning.  bring a sweater or light jacket.
>>
>>         randy
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    Very cold AC seems to be one of the permanent themes of these
      [XXattendees] mailing lists. No surprises here :-)

    

    
On 3/30/16 9:16 AM, Mariano Absatz - el
      Baby wrote:

    

    

      

        

          
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Dean
            Bogdanovic <dean@voltanet.io>
            wrote:

            

              
Are Argentinians proud
                of air conditioning in general, so everywhere will be on
                the cold side inside or just Hilton loves that?

            

            


            

            I wouldn't say so... and with electricity rates in the raise
            by almost an order of magnitude you shouldn't exaggerated
            air conditioning given we're already into Fall.

          


          

          
For today and tomorrow it is expected
            that highs be almost 30°C and lows about 20°C, but it will
            probably start raining on Saturday and next week highs will
            likely be in the low 20's. 

          


          

          
https://weather.com/en-GB/weather/10day/l/ARXX2519:1:AR

          


          

          
http://www.smn.gov.ar/?mod=pron&id=4&provincia=Capital%20Federal&ciudad=Buenos%20Aires

          


            

            

              
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Dean
                  

                    


                      

                        

                          
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Possibly compensation. 
                              Apparently they had a pretty rough summer.

                            


                              
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                                2016 at 7:24 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
                                wrote:

                                
similar
                                  to many hotels in the states, the
                                  venue hilton is proud of its

                                  air conditioning.  bring a sweater or
                                  light jacket.

                                  

                                  randy

                                  

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Well, we can start a survey. Let's put some
numbers on the problem.
Which is the optimal air temperature for you?
Regards,

                       Diego

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:58 AM, John G. Scudder  wrote:

> On Mar 30, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Carlos M. Martinez  wrote:
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> [XXattendees] mailing lists. No surprises here :-)
>
> AC is a permanent theme; occasionally the sign flips. For IETF-96 we can
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> Very cold AC seems to be one of the permanent themes of these [XXatten=
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2016, Diego Dujovne wrote:

> Well, we can start a survey. Let's put some
> numbers on the problem.
> Which is the optimal air temperature for you?

Please create an online web poll for this, or tell them to email yourself 
directly and aggregate the results, do not solicit tens or hundreds of 
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You are right Mikael, this may become
too big to handle on the list. I have built
a survey to fulfill the temperature value:

https://es.surveymonkey.com/r/7ZNQ7DQ

If you are interested on participating, add
your value there.

Regards,

                         Diego

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson 
wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016, Diego Dujovne wrote:
>
> Well, we can start a survey. Let's put some
>> numbers on the problem.
>> Which is the optimal air temperature for you?
>>
>
> Please create an online web poll for this, or tell them to email yourself
> directly and aggregate the results, do not solicit tens or hundreds of
> email to this list for this purpose.
>
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Bruno,
          Fixed! Now it says degrees Celsius.
Regards,

                        Diego

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:57 AM,  wrote:

> > If you are interested on participating, add your value there.
>
>
>
> =E2=80=9C42=E2=80=9D
>
> In other words, you may want to specify the unit that we MUST use. e.g.
> Celsius, Fahrenheit, Kelvin
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 95attendees [mailto:95attendees-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *=
Diego
> Dujovne
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2016 3:39 PM
> *To:* Mikael Abrahamsson
> *Cc:* 95 Attendees
> *Subject:* Re: [95attendees] air con
>
>
>
> You are right Mikael, this may become
>
> too big to handle on the list. I have built
>
> a survey to fulfill the temperature value:
>
> https://es.surveymonkey.com/r/7ZNQ7DQ
>
> If you are interested on participating, add
>
> your value there.
>
> Regards,
>
>                          Diego
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson 
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016, Diego Dujovne wrote:
>
> Well, we can start a survey. Let's put some
> numbers on the problem.
> Which is the optimal air temperature for you?
>
>
> Please create an online web poll for this, or tell them to email yourself
> directly and aggregate the results, do not solicit tens or hundreds of
> email to this list for this purpose.
>
> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se
>
>
>
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Bruno,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Fixed! Now it says degrees Celsius.
Re=
gards,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 Diego

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:57 AM,  <bruno.decraene@orange.=
com> wrote:













> If you are interested on p=
articipating, add your value there.



=C2=
=A0


=E2=
=80=9C42=E2=80=9D


In other w=
ords, you may want to specify the unit that we MUST use.
e.g. Celsius, Fahrenheit, Kelvin


=C2=
=A0


=C2=
=A0








From:
 95attendees [mailto:95attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Diego 
Dujovne

Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 3:39 PM

To: Mikael Abrahamsson

Cc: 95 Attendees

Subject: Re: [95attendees] air con






=C2=A0
















You are right Mikael, this may become =





too big to handle on the list. I have built




a survey to fulfill t=
he temperature value:



https:/=
/es.surveymonkey.com/r/7ZNQ7DQ




If you are interested on participating, add




your value there. =





Regards,




=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Diego






=C2=A0




On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson=
 <swmike@swm.pp.se=
> wrote:


On Wed, 30 Mar 2016, =
Diego Dujovne wrote:


Well, we can start a survey. Let's put some

numbers on the problem.

Which is the optimal air temperature for you?




Please create an online web poll for this, or tell them to email yourself d=
irectly and aggregate the results, do not solicit tens or hundreds of email=
 to this list for this purpose.



-- 

Mikael Abrahamsson=C2=A0 =C2=A0 email: 
swmike@swm.pp.se




=C2=A0








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Dave,
        You just calculate the average.
Regards,

                Diego

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Dave Dolson  wrote:

> What if I want heating to 21C in the winter and cooling to 26C in the
> summer?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 95attendees [mailto:95attendees-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *
> bruno.decraene@orange.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2016 9:57 AM
> *To:* Diego Dujovne
> *Cc:* 95 Attendees; Mikael Abrahamsson
>
> *Subject:* Re: [95attendees] air con
>
>
>
> > If you are interested on participating, add your value there.
>
>
>
> =E2=80=9C42=E2=80=9D
>
> In other words, you may want to specify the unit that we MUST use. e.g.
> Celsius, Fahrenheit, Kelvin
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* 95attendees [mailto:95attendees-bounces@ietf.org
> <95attendees-bounces@ietf.org>] *On Behalf Of *Diego Dujovne
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 30, 2016 3:39 PM
> *To:* Mikael Abrahamsson
> *Cc:* 95 Attendees
> *Subject:* Re: [95attendees] air con
>
>
>
> You are right Mikael, this may become
>
> too big to handle on the list. I have built
>
> a survey to fulfill the temperature value:
>
> https://es.surveymonkey.com/r/7ZNQ7DQ
>
> If you are interested on participating, add
>
> your value there.
>
> Regards,
>
>                          Diego
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson 
> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016, Diego Dujovne wrote:
>
> Well, we can start a survey. Let's put some
> numbers on the problem.
> Which is the optimal air temperature for you?
>
>
> Please create an online web poll for this, or tell them to email yourself
> directly and aggregate the results, do not solicit tens or hundreds of
> email to this list for this purpose.
>
> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se
>
>
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> _________________________________________________________________________=
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Dave,
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Regards,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Diego

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Dave Dolson <ddol=
son@sandvine.com> wrote:











What if I want heating to=
 21C in the winter and cooling to 26C in the summer?

=C2=A0


=C2=A0






From: 95attend=
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On Behalf Of bruno.decraene@orange.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 9:57 AM

To: Diego Dujovne

Cc: 95 Attendees; Mikael Abrahamsson


Subject: Re: [95attendees] air con






=C2=A0


> If you are interested on participating, add you=
r value there.



=C2=A0


=E2=80=9C42=E2=80=9D


In other words, you may w=
ant to specify the unit that we MUST use. e.g. Celsius, Fahrenheit, Kelvin<=
u>


=C2=A0


=C2=A0








From: 95attend=
ees [mail=
to:95attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
On Behalf Of Diego Dujovne

Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 3:39 PM

To: Mikael Abrahamsson

Cc: 95 Attendees

Subject: Re: [95attendees] air con






=C2=A0
















You are right Mikael, this may bec=
ome 




too big to handle on the list. I h=
ave built




a s=
urvey to fulfill the temperature value:



https:/=
/es.surveymonkey.com/r/7ZNQ7DQ




If you are interested on participa=
ting, add




you=
r value there.





Reg=
ards,




=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Diego






=C2=A0




On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:29 AM, =
Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:


On =
Wed, 30 Mar 2016, Diego Dujovne wrote:


Well, we can start a survey. Let&#=
39;s put some

numbers on the problem.

Which is the optimal air temperature for you?




Please create an online web poll for this, or tell them to email yourself d=
irectly and aggregate the results, do not solicit tens or hundreds of email=
 to this list for this purpose.



-- 

Mikael Abrahamsson=C2=A0 =C2=A0 email: 
swmike@swm.pp.se




=C2=A0






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_____________________________________________________________________


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There's also no option for "I couldn't care less. 'There is no such =
thing as bad [temperature], only unsuitable clothing.'"

--John

> On Mar 30, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Diego Dujovne  =
wrote:
>=20
> Dave,
>         You just calculate the average.
> Regards,
>=20
>                 Diego
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> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Dave Dolson  =
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> What if I want heating to 21C in the winter and cooling to 26C in the =
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On 2016-03-30 16:10, John G. Scudder wrote:
> There's also no option for "I couldn't care less. 'There is no such thing as bad [temperature], only unsuitable clothing.'"
>
> --John

Dave C., your turn.

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> On Mar 30, 2016, at 10:10, John G. Scudder  wrote:
>=20
> There's also no option for "I couldn't care less. 'There is no such thing a=
s bad [temperature], only unsuitable clothing.'"

Like!

>=20
> --John
>=20
>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Diego Dujovne  wro=
te:
>>=20
>> Dave,
>>        You just calculate the average.
>> Regards,
>>=20
>>                Diego
>>=20
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Dave Dolson  wrot=
e:
>> What if I want heating to 21C in the winter and cooling to 26C in the sum=
mer?
> [...]
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Hi=2C Ted.

Virtual kidnapping needs at least a virtual victim and a close relative to =
fall in the trap=2C so I think will be no concern for anyone visiting BsAs.

About "Express Kidnapping"=2C almost all are made in the "greater Buenos Ai=
res"=2C more precisely=2C in the "west zone" of the suburbs.

Except you plan to go there alone=2C I believe you have no reason to be afr=
aid.

A tip=2C as in every big city nowadays=2C try not to be alone in places you=
 do not know.

Any other question about BsAs=2C you could ask here=2C or by "unicast" mail=
.

Kind regards.
Juan.

PS: Re-reading your mail=2C the better advise I can give you=2C is to hangu=
p any suspicious phone call. As the calls are made in a random pattern=2C t=
here are little chance to be called again.

From: mellon@fugue.com
Date: Wed=2C 30 Mar 2016 08:11:45 -0400
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CC: randy@psg.com=3B david.somers-harris@rakuten.com=3B 95attendees@ietf.or=
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Subject: Re: [95attendees] Walking around Buenos Aires

Can any of the Argentinians on the list who follow the news comment on how =
common kidnappings and "virtual kidnappings" are now?   The virtual kidnapp=
ing phenomenon was pretty visible in the news last April=2C but I'm not see=
ing anything more recent about it=2C and of course there's minimal local co=
ntext=2C like for example _where_ they were happening in Argentina.
(For those who haven't read about this=2C the main thing seems to have been=
 that criminals were posing as kidnappers and convincing people to send rel=
atively small ransoms to free their supposedly kidnapped relatives visiting=
 Argentina=2C but the relatives in question hadn't actually been kidnapped.=
   In some cases said relatives were threatened in order to get them to sta=
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Hi=2C Ted.

Virtual kidnapping needs a=
t least a virtual victim and a close relative to fall in the trap=2C so I t=
hink will be no concern for anyone visiting BsAs.

About "Express Kid=
napping"=2C almost all are made in the "greater Buenos Aires"=2C more preci=
sely=2C in the "west zone" of the suburbs.

Except you plan to go the=
re alone=2C I believe you have no reason to be afraid.

A tip=2C as i=
n every big city nowadays=2C try not to be alone in places you do not know.=


Any other question about BsAs=2C you could ask here=2C or by "unica=
st" mail.

Kind regards.
Juan.

PS: Re-reading your mail=2C =
the better advise I can give you=2C is to hangup any suspicious phone call.=
 As the calls are made in a random pattern=2C there are little chanc=
e to be called again.

From: mellon@fugu=
e.com
Date: Wed=2C 30 Mar 2016 08:11:45 -0400
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Can any of the Argentinians on the list who follow the news com=
ment on how common kidnappings and "virtual kidnappings" are now?  =3B =
The virtual kidnapping phenomenon was pretty visible in the news last April=
=2C but I'm not seeing anything more recent about it=2C and of course there=
's minimal local context=2C like for example _where_ they were happening in=
 Argentina.

(For those who haven't read about this=2C th=
e main thing seems to have been that criminals were posing as kidnappers an=
d convincing people to send relatively small ransoms to free their supposed=
ly kidnapped relatives visiting Argentina=2C but the relatives in question =
hadn't actually been kidnapped.  =3B In some cases said relatives were =
threatened in order to get them to stay in their hotel.  =3B This proba=
bly wouldn't work for a typical hyper-connected IETFer=2C but if it's still=
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John G. Scudder wrote:
> There's also no option for "I couldn't care less. 'There is no such thing as bad [temperature], only unsuitable clothing.'"

Ah, it's that time of the year again.

I've been in IETF meetings where the clothing "suitable" to the indoor
weather was full outdoor gear, and quite a few people in the room
actually went with that.  Unfortunately, that doesn't quite work either,
because outdoor clothing is rarely designed for sedentary work.  (I also
like recognizing my coworkers, which is harder when their faces are
under a balaclava.)

Maybe I'll bring a tent, then.

Grüße, Carsten


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So I found my hotel (Hyatt) I am at can arrange an Architectural tour of
BA. It is a flat rate cost with a minimum of 3 hours. Kinda pricey for just
me but figured I would reach out and see if anyone who is here early like
me might want to join. Anyone interested?

There are a few others I may do as well. Most have a SME that leads the
tour which can be great.

-------------------
Cheers, Rick

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Juan Janczuk  wrote:

> Hi, Ted.
>
> Virtual kidnapping needs at least a virtual victim and a close relative to
> fall in the trap, so I think will be no concern for anyone visiting BsAs.
>
> About "Express Kidnapping", almost all are made in the "greater Buenos
> Aires", more precisely, in the "west zone" of the suburbs.
>
> Except you plan to go there alone, I believe you have no reason to be
> afraid.
>
> A tip, as in every big city nowadays, try not to be alone in places you do
> not know.
>
> Any other question about BsAs, you could ask here, or by "unicast" mail.
>
> Kind regards.
> Juan.
>
> PS: Re-reading your mail, the better advise I can give you, is to hangup
> any suspicious phone call. As the calls are made in a random pattern,
> there are little chance to be called again.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: mellon@fugue.com
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:45 -0400
> To: sjacob@juniper.net
> CC: randy@psg.com; david.somers-harris@rakuten.com; 95attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [95attendees] Walking around Buenos Aires
>
> Can any of the Argentinians on the list who follow the news comment on how
> common kidnappings and "virtual kidnappings" are now?   The virtual
> kidnapping phenomenon was pretty visible in the news last April, but I'm
> not seeing anything more recent about it, and of course there's minimal
> local context, like for example _where_ they were happening in Argentina.
>
> (For those who haven't read about this, the main thing seems to have been
> that criminals were posing as kidnappers and convincing people to send
> relatively small ransoms to free their supposedly kidnapped relatives
> visiting Argentina, but the relatives in question hadn't actually been
> kidnapped.   In some cases said relatives were threatened in order to get
> them to stay in their hotel.   This probably wouldn't work for a typical
> hyper-connected IETFer, but if it's still going on we should be aware of
> it.)
>
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So I found my hotel (Hyatt) I am at can arrange an Ar=
chitectural tour of BA. It is a flat rate cost with a minimum of 3 hours. K=
inda pricey for just me but figured I would reach out and see if anyone who=
 is here early like me might want to join. Anyone interested?

=
There are a few others I may do as well. Most have a SME that leads the tou=
r which can be great.

-------------------
Cheers, Rick


On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Juan Jancz=
uk <jjanczuk@msn.com> wrote:
Hi, Ted.

Virtual kidnapping needs at least a virtual victim a=
nd a close relative to fall in the trap, so I think will be no concern for =
anyone visiting BsAs.

About "Express Kidnapping", almost a=
ll are made in the "greater Buenos Aires", more precisely, in the=
 "west zone" of the suburbs.

Except you plan to go there a=
lone, I believe you have no reason to be afraid.

A tip, as in every =
big city nowadays, try not to be alone in places you do not know.

An=
y other question about BsAs, you could ask here, or by "unicast" =
mail.

Kind regards.
Juan.

PS: Re-reading your mail, the be=
tter advise I can give you, is to hangup any suspicious phone call. As the calls are made in a random pattern, there are little chance to be ca=
lled again.

From: mellon@fugue.com
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:45 -0400<=
br>To: sjacob@junip=
er.net
CC: randy@=
psg.com; david.somers-harris@rakuten.com; 95attendees@ietf.org
Sub=
ject: Re: [95attendees] Walking around Buenos Aires

Can any of the Argentinians on the list who follow=
 the news comment on how common kidnappings and "virtual kidnappings&q=
uot; are now? =C2=A0 The virtual kidnapping phenomenon was pretty visible i=
n the news last April, but I'm not seeing anything more recent about it=
, and of course there's minimal local context, like for example _where_=
 they were happening in Argentina.

(For those who haven&=
#39;t read about this, the main thing seems to have been that criminals wer=
e posing as kidnappers and convincing people to send relatively small ranso=
ms to free their supposedly kidnapped relatives visiting Argentina, but the=
 relatives in question hadn't actually been kidnapped. =C2=A0 In some c=
ases said relatives were threatened in order to get them to stay in their h=
otel. =C2=A0 This probably wouldn't work for a typical hyper-connected =
IETFer, but if it's still going on we should be aware of it.)


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There is also an Arts tour similar to the Architectural one. Art SME joins
you for a 3 hour tour. It is a flat rate as well which means more
affordable if a few people join.

As a FYI, I have not set a date/time for these yet since I am hoping to
entice a few to join me. :)

-------------------
Cheers, Rick

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Rick Casarez 
wrote:

> So I found my hotel (Hyatt) I am at can arrange an Architectural tour of
> BA. It is a flat rate cost with a minimum of 3 hours. Kinda pricey for just
> me but figured I would reach out and see if anyone who is here early like
> me might want to join. Anyone interested?
>
> There are a few others I may do as well. Most have a SME that leads the
> tour which can be great.
>
> -------------------
> Cheers, Rick
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Juan Janczuk  wrote:
>
>> Hi, Ted.
>>
>> Virtual kidnapping needs at least a virtual victim and a close relative
>> to fall in the trap, so I think will be no concern for anyone visiting BsAs.
>>
>> About "Express Kidnapping", almost all are made in the "greater Buenos
>> Aires", more precisely, in the "west zone" of the suburbs.
>>
>> Except you plan to go there alone, I believe you have no reason to be
>> afraid.
>>
>> A tip, as in every big city nowadays, try not to be alone in places you
>> do not know.
>>
>> Any other question about BsAs, you could ask here, or by "unicast" mail.
>>
>> Kind regards.
>> Juan.
>>
>> PS: Re-reading your mail, the better advise I can give you, is to hangup
>> any suspicious phone call. As the calls are made in a random pattern,
>> there are little chance to be called again.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> From: mellon@fugue.com
>> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:45 -0400
>> To: sjacob@juniper.net
>> CC: randy@psg.com; david.somers-harris@rakuten.com; 95attendees@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [95attendees] Walking around Buenos Aires
>>
>> Can any of the Argentinians on the list who follow the news comment on
>> how common kidnappings and "virtual kidnappings" are now?   The virtual
>> kidnapping phenomenon was pretty visible in the news last April, but I'm
>> not seeing anything more recent about it, and of course there's minimal
>> local context, like for example _where_ they were happening in Argentina.
>>
>> (For those who haven't read about this, the main thing seems to have been
>> that criminals were posing as kidnappers and convincing people to send
>> relatively small ransoms to free their supposedly kidnapped relatives
>> visiting Argentina, but the relatives in question hadn't actually been
>> kidnapped.   In some cases said relatives were threatened in order to get
>> them to stay in their hotel.   This probably wouldn't work for a typical
>> hyper-connected IETFer, but if it's still going on we should be aware of
>> it.)
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There is also an Arts tour similar to the Architectur=
al one. Art SME joins you for a 3 hour tour. It is a flat rate as well whic=
h means more affordable if a few people join. 

As a FYI, I hav=
e not set a date/time for these yet since I am hoping to entice a few to jo=
in me. :)

-----------=
--------
Cheers, Rick


On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Rick Casar=
ez <rick.casarez@gmail.com> wrote:
So I found my hotel (Hyatt) I am at c=
an arrange an Architectural tour of BA. It is a flat rate cost with a minim=
um of 3 hours. Kinda pricey for just me but figured I would reach out and s=
ee if anyone who is here early like me might want to join. Anyone intereste=
d?

There are a few others I may do as well. Most have a SME th=
at leads the tour which can be great.
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Cheers, Rick


On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Juan Jancz=
uk <jjanczuk@msn.com> wrote:
Hi, Ted.

Virtual kidnapping needs at least a virtual victim a=
nd a close relative to fall in the trap, so I think will be no concern for =
anyone visiting BsAs.

About "Express Kidnapping", almost a=
ll are made in the "greater Buenos Aires", more precisely, in the=
 "west zone" of the suburbs.

Except you plan to go there a=
lone, I believe you have no reason to be afraid.

A tip, as in every =
big city nowadays, try not to be alone in places you do not know.

An=
y other question about BsAs, you could ask here, or by "unicast" =
mail.

Kind regards.
Juan.

PS: Re-reading your mail, the be=
tter advise I can give you, is to hangup any suspicious phone call. As the calls are made in a random pattern, there are little chance to be ca=
lled again.

From: mellon@fugue.com
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:45 -0400<=
br>To: sjacob@junip=
er.net
CC: randy@=
psg.com; david.somers-harris@rakuten.com; 95attendees@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [=
95attendees] Walking around Buenos Aires

Can any of the Argentinians on the list who follow the news comment on h=
ow common kidnappings and "virtual kidnappings" are now? =C2=A0 T=
he virtual kidnapping phenomenon was pretty visible in the news last April,=
 but I'm not seeing anything more recent about it, and of course there&=
#39;s minimal local context, like for example _where_ they were happening i=
n Argentina.

(For those who haven't read about this,=
 the main thing seems to have been that criminals were posing as kidnappers=
 and convincing people to send relatively small ransoms to free their suppo=
sedly kidnapped relatives visiting Argentina, but the relatives in question=
 hadn't actually been kidnapped. =C2=A0 In some cases said relatives we=
re threatened in order to get them to stay in their hotel. =C2=A0 This prob=
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> ...
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Thanks, Juan.   I suppose this is really not much different than the
facebook "I'm in trouble in a foreign country" scam... :)

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Juan Janczuk  wrote:

> Hi, Ted.
>
> Virtual kidnapping needs at least a virtual victim and a close relative to
> fall in the trap, so I think will be no concern for anyone visiting BsAs.
>
> About "Express Kidnapping", almost all are made in the "greater Buenos
> Aires", more precisely, in the "west zone" of the suburbs.
>
> Except you plan to go there alone, I believe you have no reason to be
> afraid.
>
> A tip, as in every big city nowadays, try not to be alone in places you do
> not know.
>
> Any other question about BsAs, you could ask here, or by "unicast" mail.
>
> Kind regards.
> Juan.
>
> PS: Re-reading your mail, the better advise I can give you, is to hangup
> any suspicious phone call. As the calls are made in a random pattern,
> there are little chance to be called again.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: mellon@fugue.com
> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:45 -0400
> To: sjacob@juniper.net
> CC: randy@psg.com; david.somers-harris@rakuten.com; 95attendees@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [95attendees] Walking around Buenos Aires
>
> Can any of the Argentinians on the list who follow the news comment on how
> common kidnappings and "virtual kidnappings" are now?   The virtual
> kidnapping phenomenon was pretty visible in the news last April, but I'm
> not seeing anything more recent about it, and of course there's minimal
> local context, like for example _where_ they were happening in Argentina.
>
> (For those who haven't read about this, the main thing seems to have been
> that criminals were posing as kidnappers and convincing people to send
> relatively small ransoms to free their supposedly kidnapped relatives
> visiting Argentina, but the relatives in question hadn't actually been
> kidnapped.   In some cases said relatives were threatened in order to get
> them to stay in their hotel.   This probably wouldn't work for a typical
> hyper-connected IETFer, but if it's still going on we should be aware of
> it.)
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Thanks, Juan. =C2=A0 I suppose this is really not much dif=
ferent than the facebook "I'm in trouble in a foreign country"=
; scam... :)

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Juan Janczuk <jjanczuk@msn.com> wrote:




Hi, Ted.

Virtual kidnapping needs at least a virtual victim a=
nd a close relative to fall in the trap, so I think will be no concern for =
anyone visiting BsAs.

About "Express Kidnapping", almost a=
ll are made in the "greater Buenos Aires", more precisely, in the=
 "west zone" of the suburbs.

Except you plan to go there a=
lone, I believe you have no reason to be afraid.

A tip, as in every =
big city nowadays, try not to be alone in places you do not know.

An=
y other question about BsAs, you could ask here, or by "unicast" =
mail.

Kind regards.
Juan.

PS: Re-reading your mail, the be=
tter advise I can give you, is to hangup any suspicious phone call. As the calls are made in a random pattern, there are little chance to be ca=
lled again.

From: mellon@fugue.com
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 08:11:45 -0400<=
br>To: sjacob@junip=
er.net
CC: randy@=
psg.com; david.somers-harris@rakuten.com; 95attendees@ietf.org
Sub=
ject: Re: [95attendees] Walking around Buenos Aires

Can any of the Argentinians on the list who follow=
 the news comment on how common kidnappings and "virtual kidnappings&q=
uot; are now? =C2=A0 The virtual kidnapping phenomenon was pretty visible i=
n the news last April, but I'm not seeing anything more recent about it=
, and of course there's minimal local context, like for example _where_=
 they were happening in Argentina.

(For those who haven&=
#39;t read about this, the main thing seems to have been that criminals wer=
e posing as kidnappers and convincing people to send relatively small ranso=
ms to free their supposedly kidnapped relatives visiting Argentina, but the=
 relatives in question hadn't actually been kidnapped. =C2=A0 In some c=
ases said relatives were threatened in order to get them to stay in their h=
otel. =C2=A0 This probably wouldn't work for a typical hyper-connected =
IETFer, but if it's still going on we should be aware of it.)


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Ted,

On 03/30/2016 02:11 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> Can any of the Argentinians on the list who follow the news comment on
> how common kidnappings and "virtual kidnappings" are now?   The virtual
> kidnapping phenomenon was pretty visible in the news last April, but I'm
> not seeing anything more recent about it, and of course there's minimal
> local context, like for example _where_ they were happening in Argentina.

What they call "virtual kidnappings" are simply folks which call a
relative, and ask for money arguing that you've been kidnapped. -- no
violence or anything implied -- just taking advantage of distracted people.

No need to worry. Bottom-line: there's lots of crap in the media. If
there's anything to worry about, we'll let you know.


> (For those who haven't read about this, the main thing seems to have
> been that criminals were posing as kidnappers and convincing people to
> send relatively small ransoms to free their supposedly kidnapped
> relatives visiting Argentina, but the relatives in question hadn't
> actually been kidnapped. 

Nope. It has happened wth random numbers. These people don't target
anyne in particular.


> In some cases said relatives were threatened
> in order to get them to stay in their hotel.   This probably wouldn't
> work for a typical hyper-connected IETFer, but if it's still going on we
> should be aware of it.)

I'd say the other way around: pay attention to the stuff that you're
signaled, and not to what's on the media.

Thanks!

Cheers,
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On 03/30/2016 02:00 PM, Dean Bogdanovic wrote:
> Are Argentinians proud of air conditioning in general, so everywhere
> will be on the cold side inside or just Hilton loves that?

Huh? Proud about air-conditioning? :-)

We're proud about Messi, and way More about Maradona.


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I checked with the Hilton, and they told me their=20
pool is only 17 meters and has no lanes.

Swimmersguide lists a few pools in the area, the=20
ones that jumped out at me are:

- Asociaci=F3n Cristiana de J=F3venes (YMCA) - Sede=20
Central; Reconquista 439; 25m x 4 lanes

- Sport Club Congreso; Bartolom=E9 Mitre 1625; 25m x 5 lanes

The hotel concierge recommends:
- Centro Megatlon - Barrio Norte;=20
=00R=00o=00d=00r=00i=00g=00u=00e=00z=00 =00P=00e=00=E8=00=E8=00=D2=00a=00=
 =001=000=006=002; 20m x=20
4 lanes

It also appears that public pools require a=20
doctor's note before allowing you to swim.  If=20
you don't bring one, you need to pay for an=20
immediate examination.

Does anyone have any information or=20
recommendations on the pools, or their areas, or=20
getting there?  It appears that the YMCA is=20
walking distance, but the others require taxi or=20
bus.

-- 
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disturbances which sicken the passengers and keep us captives of
our seat belts. We sweat in the cockpit, though much of the time we
fly with the side windows open. The airplanes smell of hot oil and
simmering aluminum, disinfectant, feces, leather, and puke ... the
stewardesses, short-tempered and reeking of vomit, come forward as
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    --Ernest K. Gann, describing airline flying in the 1930's,
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The pool at my hotel (Hyatt / Palacio Duhau) has a 25m indoor pool. Not
much bigger.

-------------------
Cheers, Rick

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Randall Gellens 
wrote:

> I checked with the Hilton, and they told me their pool is only 17 meters
> and has no lanes.
>
> Swimmersguide lists a few pools in the area, the ones that jumped out at
> me are:
>
> - Asociaci=C3=B3n Cristiana de J=C3=B3venes (YMCA) - Sede Central; Reconq=
uista 439;
> 25m x 4 lanes
>
> - Sport Club Congreso; Bartolom=C3=A9 Mitre 1625; 25m x 5 lanes
>
> The hotel concierge recommends:
> - Centro Megatlon - Barrio Norte; R o d r i g u e z   P e =C3=A8 =C3=A8 =
=C3=92 a   1 0 6
> 2; 20m x 4 lanes
>
> It also appears that public pools require a doctor's note before allowing
> you to swim.  If you don't bring one, you need to pay for an immediate
> examination.
>
> Does anyone have any information or recommendations on the pools, or thei=
r
> areas, or getting there?  It appears that the YMCA is walking distance, b=
ut
> the others require taxi or bus.
>
> --
> Randall Gellens
> Opinions are personal;    facts are suspect;    I speak for myself only
> -------------- Randomly selected tag: ---------------
> The air is annoyingly potted with a multitude of minor vertical
> disturbances which sicken the passengers and keep us captives of
> our seat belts. We sweat in the cockpit, though much of the time we
> fly with the side windows open. The airplanes smell of hot oil and
> simmering aluminum, disinfectant, feces, leather, and puke ... the
> stewardesses, short-tempered and reeking of vomit, come forward as
> often as they can for what is a breath of comparatively fresh air.
>    --Ernest K. Gann, describing airline flying in the 1930's,
>      Fate Is the Hunter, 1961.
>
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The pool at my hotel (Hyatt / Palacio Duhau) has a 25m ind=
oor pool. Not much bigger.

-------------------
Cheers, Rick


On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Randall Gel=
lens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> wrote:
I checked with the Hilton, and they told me their poo=
l is only 17 meters and has no lanes.



Swimmersguide lists a few pools in the area, the ones that jumped out at me=
 are:



- Asociaci=C3=B3n Cristiana de J=C3=B3venes (YMCA) - Sede Central; Reconqui=
sta 439; 25m x 4 lanes



- Sport Club Congreso; Bartolom=C3=A9 Mitre 1625; 25m x 5 lanes



The hotel concierge recommends:

- Centro Megatlon - Barrio Norte; R o d r i g u e z=C2=A0 =C2=A0P e =C3=A8 =
=C3=A8 =C3=92 a=C2=A0 =C2=A01 0 6 2; 20m x 4 lanes



It also appears that public pools require a doctor's note before allowi=
ng you to swim.=C2=A0 If you don't bring one, you need to pay for an im=
mediate examination.



Does anyone have any information or recommendations on the pools, or their =
areas, or getting there?=C2=A0 It appears that the YMCA is walking distance=
, but the others require taxi or bus.



-- 

Randall Gellens

Opinions are personal;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 facts are suspect;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I speak=
 for myself only

-------------- Randomly selected tag: ---------------

The air is annoyingly potted with a multitude of minor vertical

disturbances which sicken the passengers and keep us captives of

our seat belts. We sweat in the cockpit, though much of the time we

fly with the side windows open. The airplanes smell of hot oil and

simmering aluminum, disinfectant, feces, leather, and puke ... the

stewardesses, short-tempered and reeking of vomit, come forward as

often as they can for what is a breath of comparatively fresh air.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0--Ernest K. Gann, describing airline flying in the 1930's,=


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Fate Is the Hunter, 1961.



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> On Mar 30, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke)  =
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>=20
> It also depends on humidity, air flow speed, phase of the Moon and =
whether the discussion is heated or not :-)
>=20

Clearly we need to have some stickers printed and applied along with =
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On Mar 30, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com> =
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also depends on humidity, air flow speed, phase of the Moon and whether =
the discussion is heated or not :-)


Clearly we need to have some stickers printed =
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temperatures". :-)

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Dave Dolson wrote:
> What if I want heating to 21C in the winter and cooling to 26C in the
> summer?

Then you might be on to something :-)

(In Germany we have regulations for workplace temperatures, based on,
believe it or not, science.
One of the rules is that the inside temperature should not normally be
more than 7 °C below the outside temperature.  Of course, that simple
rule doesn't consider wind chill, which is often considerable in
US-style air conditioning.)

Grüße, Carsten


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Its always helpfull to understand how far off the experience is that
i get visiting a foreign country on a conference from the experience that
natives to the country have. Most times you would not understand that just by
the personal experience passing between hotel, restaurant and venue because
its in neighborhoods that even the worst of countries try to keep safe &
sane for business travellers.

Personal rule of thumb, the higher the gini, the higher the violent crime rate
in socially seggregated quarters. And that puts Argentine pretty much in the same 
bucket as the USA. Similar gini, probably somewhat higher social seggregation. So
i wish we could have the funny discussion about pickpocketting in prague instead of
this BA discussion reminding me of a colleague shot to death on a business trip to Detroit.

And definitely +1 on japan as one of my favourite destinations. The way of the
samurai: Asphyxiation by simply taking the last subway at night in Tokyo. (just kidding).

Toerless


On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 06:39:48AM +0000, Sudhin Jacob wrote:
> Japan is awesome place. You can have sound sleep at night with door and windows of your apartments open. No shooting or theft. I really love those people and the
> Country. I could able to walk at the streets of Yokohama without fear. 
> 
> Regards,
> Sudhin
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> > I???m going to be so mind blown, having grown up in Tokyo where we leave 
> > our iPhones on a seat to reserve it seats while we order at 
> > Starbucks...
> 
> in this, and other aspects, japan is not on the same planet.  in BA, like many large european cities, it'll be snatch and run.  in some US cities, it's simpler, they just kill you.
> 
> randy
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Luciano Minuchin writes:
> My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you
> can book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450
> pesos , which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a
> poster when arriving 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid
> problems.

I took this advice, in part hoping to pay in advance online with a
credit card.  Unfortunately online you can only make a reservation by
giving your name, contact email and cell phone, and flight arrival
information.  No payment.

Immigrations and customs took a crazy long amount of time this
morning, over an hour.  Oh, about Customs.  The form you get on the
plane has a space to indicate your cell phone brand, model, and any
accessories.  Not your number.  There's no explanation of why this
information is requested, and I heard later that most people just
leave it blank.  It doesn't seem to matter either way since no one at
Customs was collecting these forms.  (I guess they do if you have
something to declare.)  I left the building with mine still in my hand.

When finally exiting Customs, you first come into a narrow area where
a bunch of taxi (remise) companies are trying to get your business.
Taxi Ezeiza is not here; to get to your reservation you have to fully
leave to the main hall, and it is a bit ahead on your left.

Reservation names are on placards around the booth, and it wasn't
clear how that related to the queue also in front of the booth.  So I
went up and indicated my placard and asked what I should do, and the
attendant said he would handle me next.  I felt slightly guilty
because apparently that just line-hopped other people who also had
reservations (including Keith Mitchell) but who had not gotten their
placard.  A bit disorganized.

To my surprise they do not take credit cards at the booth either, but
they do take US dollars.  $39 to the Hilton.  I had made a reservation
for just one person but met Ralf Weber in Houston and said I'd share
the ride with him.  The additional passenger was no charge.

The porter who led us to the taxi explicitly requested a tip, a bit
contrary to what I was led to believe about tipping culture here.  The
only small money I had then was a single US dollar that I had just
gotten in change from the booth. This he seemed to accept as adequate.

The taxi itself was a compact car, with enough trunk room for two
medium-sized suitcases and a large backpack.  I don't think it would
have held much more.  Three people would be pretty tight in that
vehicle, but maybe a reservation for three people would score a larger
one.  The driver spoke no practical English (and I, alas, habla solo
un poco de Espanol).

Sorry this message was long, but hope that it helps some of you who,
like me, are first time visitors to Buenos Aires.


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If anyone has already arrived at the Hilton, can you describe what sort 
of electrical outlets are actually in your room?

Thanks!

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Out of curiosity, around what time did you arrive? How long was the line 
at the Taxi Ezeiza booth for people without reservations?

Thanks!

Ben.

On 30 Mar 2016, at 16:03, David C Lawrence wrote:

> Luciano Minuchin writes:
>> My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you
>> can book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450
>> pesos , which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a
>> poster when arriving 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid
>> problems.
>
> I took this advice, in part hoping to pay in advance online with a
> credit card.  Unfortunately online you can only make a reservation by
> giving your name, contact email and cell phone, and flight arrival
> information.  No payment.
>
> Immigrations and customs took a crazy long amount of time this
> morning, over an hour.  Oh, about Customs.  The form you get on the
> plane has a space to indicate your cell phone brand, model, and any
> accessories.  Not your number.  There's no explanation of why this
> information is requested, and I heard later that most people just
> leave it blank.  It doesn't seem to matter either way since no one at
> Customs was collecting these forms.  (I guess they do if you have
> something to declare.)  I left the building with mine still in my 
> hand.
>
> When finally exiting Customs, you first come into a narrow area where
> a bunch of taxi (remise) companies are trying to get your business.
> Taxi Ezeiza is not here; to get to your reservation you have to fully
> leave to the main hall, and it is a bit ahead on your left.
>
> Reservation names are on placards around the booth, and it wasn't
> clear how that related to the queue also in front of the booth.  So I
> went up and indicated my placard and asked what I should do, and the
> attendant said he would handle me next.  I felt slightly guilty
> because apparently that just line-hopped other people who also had
> reservations (including Keith Mitchell) but who had not gotten their
> placard.  A bit disorganized.
>
> To my surprise they do not take credit cards at the booth either, but
> they do take US dollars.  $39 to the Hilton.  I had made a reservation
> for just one person but met Ralf Weber in Houston and said I'd share
> the ride with him.  The additional passenger was no charge.
>
> The porter who led us to the taxi explicitly requested a tip, a bit
> contrary to what I was led to believe about tipping culture here.  The
> only small money I had then was a single US dollar that I had just
> gotten in change from the booth. This he seemed to accept as adequate.
>
> The taxi itself was a compact car, with enough trunk room for two
> medium-sized suitcases and a large backpack.  I don't think it would
> have held much more.  Three people would be pretty tight in that
> vehicle, but maybe a reservation for three people would score a larger
> one.  The driver spoke no practical English (and I, alas, habla solo
> un poco de Espanol).
>
> Sorry this message was long, but hope that it helps some of you who,
> like me, are first time visitors to Buenos Aires.
>
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In message , "Ben Campbell" writes:
> Out of curiosity, around what time did you arrive? How long was the line 
> at the Taxi Ezeiza booth for people without reservations?

	16:30ish yesterday - length 1 x 2
 
> Thanks!
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Has anyone come in to AEP?  I can not tell from the wiki what the taxi 
arrangements are from there to get to the hotel.

Thank you,
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> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:03 PM, David C Lawrence  wrote:
>=20
> To my surprise they do not take credit cards at the booth either, but
> they do take US dollars.  $39 to the Hilton.  I had made a reservation
> for just one person but met Ralf Weber in Houston and said I'd share
> the ride with him.  The additional passenger was no charge.
>=20
> The porter who led us to the taxi explicitly requested a tip, a bit
> contrary to what I was led to believe about tipping culture here.  The
> only small money I had then was a single US dollar that I had just
> gotten in change from the booth. This he seemed to accept as adequate.
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> The taxi itself was a compact car, with enough trunk room for two
> medium-sized suitcases and a large backpack.  I don't think it would
> have held much more.  Three people would be pretty tight in that
> vehicle, but maybe a reservation for three people would score a larger
> one. =20

We had a party of 4, with more than four suitcases and backpacks each, =
and paid $46 USD at the booth for a larger car that easily accommodated =
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Joel, at AEP take a car at Tienda Leon (http://www.tiendaleon.com/). You wi=
ll find their booth on your right hand, just after the carrousels, at the m=
ain hall of the airport. You can pay with credit card there, and make a res=
ervation at their website if you wish.

Hope it helps

El 30 mar. 2016, a las 18:19, Joel M. Halpern > escribi?:

Has anyone come in to AEP?  I can not tell from the wiki what the taxi arra=
ngements are from there to get to the hotel.

Thank you,
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Joel, at AEP take a car at Tienda Leon (http://www.tiendaleon.com/). You will find their booth on your=
 right hand, just after the carrousels, at the main hall of the airport. Yo=
u can pay with credit card there,
 and make a reservation at their website if you wish. 







Hope it helps




El 30 mar. 2016, a las 18:19, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> escribió:








Has anyone come in to AEP?  I can not tell from the wiki wh=
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Randy Bush writes:
> > noc gossip has found http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00A17I2KC
> 
> further noc gossip, fwiw
>   o sampled rooms in hilton also have JP/EU/US

Elevating beyond gossip:

The Hilton rooms have both Argentinian Type I outlets (two diagonal
flat blades above a vertical flat blade) as well as "universal" power
outlets which take at least US/JP type A/B (two vertical blades with
optional ground pin) and European Type C/E/F (two pin).  UK Type G
won't fit the ground pin.  Various other types also seem unlikely, but
I didn't take measurements.

There is a universal outlet both at the desk and in the bathroom.

Also the general room and bathroom lights only work if you leave your
key in the slot by the door.  The desk outlets work regardless of
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Hi Joel -- I am also flying into AEP (arriving on Sunday  ~3pm from IAD via=
 GRU). I have in fact just before your email sent a unicast to Fernando wit=
h a similar question (as I had not seen any emails on AEP), perhaps he and =
others can respond.  =20

The one bit of information I have is on this site website: http://www.ihate=
taxis.com/airport/AEP-Buenos-Aires-Newbery-Airport/Buenos-Aires-Newbery-Air=
port-taxi-service
This site says the "official taxi of the Jorge Newbery Airport is Radio Tax=
is and have their Jorge Newbery Airport taxi stands outside the Arrivals ha=
ll." There are other bits of advice noted in here.=20

-Sanjay

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Has anyone come in to AEP?  I can not tell from the wiki what the taxi arra=
ngements are from there to get to the hotel.

Thank you,
Joel

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Argentina, or for their friends if they are not.   The question about your
cell phone may be a vestige of some past attempt to control that, which
would explain why they didn't check it.   Seems safer to put a strong
password on your phone and declare it, just in case the next customs agent
asks.   But apparently they don't hassle foreigners as much as locals.
Obviously I am just reporting what I've read online, not speaking from
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Ben Campbell writes:
> Out of curiosity, around what time did you arrive?

A significant fraction of the DNS world arrived on United 819 at 0925
this morning.  Judging from the length of the queue at Immigration,
we must have come in soon after at least one other large aircraft.
Maybe two.

Oh, one other weird thing about waiting.  As I looked for my bag at
the luggage carousel, things were definitely thinning out toward the
end with no sign of mine.  Then I noticed it sitting on the floor near
where the conveyor entered the building, next to a couple of other
bags that also had Priority stickers on them.  I don't know if this
was part of their standard procedure or not, but I recommend also
looking around the room, not just on the belt.

> How long was the line at the Taxi Ezeiza booth for people without
> reservations?

I'd say there were around a dozen people, some clearly traveling
together.  For a cash-only business it took a little longer to clear
each one than I would have imagined, but compared to the border
business it was lightning quick.


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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Ted Lemon  wrote:

> The googles say that =E2=80=8BArgentina has a problem with people buying =
new stuff
> outside the country and bringing it in for themselves if they are from
> Argentina, or for their friends if they are not.   The question about you=
r
> cell phone may be a vestige of some past attempt to control that, which
> would explain why they didn't check it.   Seems safer to put a strong
> password on your phone and declare it, just in case the next customs agen=
t
> asks.   But apparently they don't hassle foreigners as much as locals.
> Obviously I am just reporting what I've read online, not speaking from
> personal experience.
>
>
AFAIK, the infamous cell phone brand and model in the customs form is a
vestige of the old TDMA pre-SIMcard network times, where you could buy a
cell phone abroad and declare it to customs on entering, they would give
you a special form signed and stamped in customs that you could use to ask
the cellphone company to configure the phone with the line, otherwise, the
cellphone company would NOT accept to put their cell line in a phone bought
abroad. It was a regulation to prevent smuggling of cell phones. Now, in
the SIMcard era, there's little they can do to prevent you from smuggling a
phone and using any line in it (as long as it is unlocked and supports the
right bands).

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 6:38 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
The googles say that=C2=A0=E2=80=8BArgentina has a problem wi=
th people buying new stuff outside the country and bringing it in for thems=
elves if they are from Argentina, or for their friends if they are not. =C2=
=A0 The question about your cell phone may be a vestige of some past attemp=
t to control that, which would explain why they didn't check it. =C2=A0=
 Seems safer to put a strong password on your phone and declare it, just in=
 case the next customs agent asks. =C2=A0 But apparently they don't has=
sle foreigners as much as locals. =C2=A0 Obviously I am just reporting what=
 I've read online, not speaking from personal experience.



AFAIK, the infamous cell phone brand a=
nd model in the customs form is a vestige of the old TDMA pre-SIMcard netwo=
rk times, where you could buy a cell phone abroad and declare it to customs=
 on entering, they would give you a special form signed and stamped in cust=
oms that you could use to ask the cellphone company to configure the phone =
with the line, otherwise, the cellphone company would NOT accept to put the=
ir cell line in a phone bought abroad. It was a regulation to prevent smugg=
ling of cell phones. Now, in the SIMcard era, there's little they can d=
o to prevent you from smuggling a phone and using any line in it (as long a=
s it is unlocked and supports the right bands).

--
Mariano Absatz - El Baby
=
www.clueless.com.=
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Take any of the official taxis you'll find just outside customs. It's a 
relatively short ride.

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Joel M. Halpern  
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Has anyone come in to AEP? I can not tell from the wiki what the taxi
arrangements are from there to get to the hotel.

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Take any of the official taxis you'll find just outside 
customs. It's a relatively short ride. 


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Has anyone come in to AEP?  I can not tell from 
the wiki what the taxi 
arrangements are from there to get to the 
hotel.

Thank 
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 05:36:52PM -0400,
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> There are other bits of advice noted in here. 

Also, never forget there is a Wiki

and the information is organized and easier to find than by following
the very talkative ietf-meeting list :-)


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Reasonable walking route at 8am and 5pm between the Hilton and the
InterContinental?  I'd have thought yes but wow does the list succeed
in making people wonder about the bogeymen on every other block.

https://goo.gl/maps/mig5RCE8H1C2



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Hi Ben,
Generally, i can find electric outlet with norm "IRAM 2063" and "IRAM
2073". Hilton should have them.
http://www.cablesyfichas.com/fichas_y_enchufes_internacionales.htm

Regards,

Cristian

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> If anyone has already arrived at the Hilton, can you describe what sort of
> electrical outlets are actually in your room?
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> Thanks!
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Hi Ben,
Generally, i can find electric outlet with norm=
 "IRAM 2063" and "IRAM 2073". Hilton should have them.<=
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Regards,

Cristian

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Ben Campbell writes:
> If anyone has already arrived at the Hilton, can you describe what sort 
> of electrical outlets are actually in your room?

Apologies for the duplicate, but in case anyone comes looking at this
one instead of Randy's older "power mains" one:

The Hilton rooms have both Argentinian Type I outlets (two diagonal
flat blades above a vertical flat blade) as well as "universal" power
outlets which take at least US/JP type A/B (two vertical blades with
optional ground pin) and European Type C/E/F (two pin).  UK Type G
won't fit the ground pin.  Various other types also seem unlikely, but
I didn't take measurements.

There is a universal outlet both at the desk and in the bathroom.

Also the general room and bathroom lights only work if you leave your
key in the slot by the door.  The desk outlets work regardless of
whether the key is in the slot.


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So, I took what looked like the easy way out and booked a car from the =
Hilton. This is done by sending an email message to the concierge, per =
the information on the wiki.

It's stupidly expensive ($80 US) but takes up to three people and does =
not involve ambiguity, cash, or negotiation, which (many years of =
traveling have taught me) I don=E2=80=99t tend to handle well after an =
overnight flight in coach.


Suzanne

> On Mar 30, 2016, at 5:03 PM, David C Lawrence  wrote:
>=20
> Luciano Minuchin writes:
>> My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you
>> can book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450
>> pesos , which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a
>> poster when arriving 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid
>> problems.
>=20
> I took this advice, in part hoping to pay in advance online with a
> credit card.  Unfortunately online you can only make a reservation by
> giving your name, contact email and cell phone, and flight arrival
> information.  No payment.
>=20
> Immigrations and customs took a crazy long amount of time this
> morning, over an hour.  Oh, about Customs.  The form you get on the
> plane has a space to indicate your cell phone brand, model, and any
> accessories.  Not your number.  There's no explanation of why this
> information is requested, and I heard later that most people just
> leave it blank.  It doesn't seem to matter either way since no one at
> Customs was collecting these forms.  (I guess they do if you have
> something to declare.)  I left the building with mine still in my =
hand.
>=20
> When finally exiting Customs, you first come into a narrow area where
> a bunch of taxi (remise) companies are trying to get your business.
> Taxi Ezeiza is not here; to get to your reservation you have to fully
> leave to the main hall, and it is a bit ahead on your left.
>=20
> Reservation names are on placards around the booth, and it wasn't
> clear how that related to the queue also in front of the booth.  So I
> went up and indicated my placard and asked what I should do, and the
> attendant said he would handle me next.  I felt slightly guilty
> because apparently that just line-hopped other people who also had
> reservations (including Keith Mitchell) but who had not gotten their
> placard.  A bit disorganized.
>=20
> To my surprise they do not take credit cards at the booth either, but
> they do take US dollars.  $39 to the Hilton.  I had made a reservation
> for just one person but met Ralf Weber in Houston and said I'd share
> the ride with him.  The additional passenger was no charge.
>=20
> The porter who led us to the taxi explicitly requested a tip, a bit
> contrary to what I was led to believe about tipping culture here.  The
> only small money I had then was a single US dollar that I had just
> gotten in change from the booth. This he seemed to accept as adequate.
>=20
> The taxi itself was a compact car, with enough trunk room for two
> medium-sized suitcases and a large backpack.  I don't think it would
> have held much more.  Three people would be pretty tight in that
> vehicle, but maybe a reservation for three people would score a larger
> one.  The driver spoke no practical English (and I, alas, habla solo
> un poco de Espanol).
>=20
> Sorry this message was long, but hope that it helps some of you who,
> like me, are first time visitors to Buenos Aires.
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 6:52 PM, David C Lawrence  wrote:

> Reasonable walking route at 8am and 5pm between the Hilton and the
> InterContinental?  I'd have thought yes but wow does the list succeed
> in making people wonder about the bogeymen on every other block.
>
> https://goo.gl/maps/mig5RCE8H1C2
>
>
> I'd take either through Diagonal Sur (google calls it 'via Macacha
G=C3=BCemes', but all of the routes go through Macacha G=C3=BCemes since th=
at is the
street where the Hotel is located) or via Av de Mayo.

The route through Av. Huergo is ugly since Huergo is an avenue with very
heavy truck trafic and Moreno is not very nice.

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 6:52 PM, David C Lawrence <tale@akamai.com> wrote:
Reasonable walking route at 8am and 5pm be=
tween the Hilton and the

InterContinental?=C2=A0 I'd have thought yes but wow does the list succ=
eed

in making people wonder about the bogeymen on every other block.



https://goo.gl/maps/mig5RCE8H1C2





I'd take either through Diagonal Sur (goog=
le calls it 'via Macacha G=C3=BCemes', but all of the routes go thr=
ough Macacha G=C3=BCemes since that is the street where the Hotel is locate=
d) or via Av de Mayo.

The route through Av. Huergo is ugly since Huergo is an av=
enue with very heavy truck trafic and Moreno is not very nice.

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Hi people.
If you're arriving to AEP (Aeroparque Jorge Newbery)=2Cyou can also take:
ArBushttp://arbus.com.ar/en/
The site is pretty self-explanatory.
Best regardsJuan.

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On 3/30/2016 5:28 PM, David C Lawrence wrote:
> There is a universal outlet both at the desk and in the bathroom. Also 
> the general room and bathroom lights only work if you leave your key 
> in the slot by the door. The desk outlets work regardless of whether 
> the key is in the slot.

Pretty much any plastic card in the slot will work if its like other 
systems I've seen.  I tend to bring a few blank cards (old room keys for 
example) and use those instead of my room key - the number of times I've 
left my key by mistake is not insignificant.

Mike


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> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Suzanne Woolf  =
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Hilton. This is done by sending an email message to the concierge, per =
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This is not actually on the wiki, it turns out. I found it on the Hilton =
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I=E2=80=99ll add it as soon as the current lock on the wiki page =
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On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:

So, I took what =
looked like the easy way out and booked a car from the Hilton. This is =
done by sending an email message to the concierge, per the information =
on the wiki.

This is not =
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there=E2=80=99s a sidebar on the =E2=80=9CMaps & Directions=E2=80=9D =
page with a link to their =E2=80=9CTransportation =
Guide.=E2=80=9D

I=E2=80=99ll add it =
as soon as the current lock on the wiki page expires, but: http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/argentina/hilton-buenos-aires-=
BUEHIHH/attractions/transportation-info.html


Suzanne


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Anyone else arriving on UA 819 Friday interested in sharing a Hilton =
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> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:51 PM 3/30/16, Suzanne Woolf =
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>=20
>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Suzanne Woolf > wrote:
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>> So, I took what looked like the easy way out and booked a car from =
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>>=20
> This is not actually on the wiki, it turns out. I found it on the =
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> I=E2=80=99ll add it as soon as the current lock on the wiki page =
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Anyone else arriving on UA 819 Friday interested in sharing a =
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Ralph

On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:51 PM 3/30/16, Suzanne =
Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:

So, I took what =
looked like the easy way out and booked a car from the Hilton. This is =
done by sending an email message to the concierge, per the information =
on the wiki.

This is not =
actually on the wiki, it turns out. I found it on the Hilton website; =
there=E2=80=99s a sidebar on the =E2=80=9CMaps & Directions=E2=80=9D =
page with a link to their =E2=80=9CTransportation Guide.=E2=80=9D

I=E2=80=99ll add it as =
soon as the current lock on the wiki page expires, but: http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/argentina/hilton-buenos-aires-=
BUEHIHH/attractions/transportation-info.html


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Oops, wrong arrival date.  That's UA 819 arriving EZE *Saturday*, April =
2.

- Ralph

> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM 3/30/16, Ralph Droms =
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> Anyone else arriving on UA 819 Friday interested in sharing a Hilton =
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> - Ralph
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>>>=20
>> This is not actually on the wiki, it turns out. I found it on the =
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Directions=E2=80=9D page with a link to their =E2=80=9CTransportation =
Guide.=E2=80=9D
>>=20
>> I=E2=80=99ll add it as soon as the current lock on the wiki page =
expires, but: =
http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/argentina/hilton-buenos-aires-BUEHIHH/att=
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Oops, wrong arrival date.  That's UA 819 arriving EZE =
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-=
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On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM 3/30/16, Ralph =
Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone else =
arriving on UA 819 Friday interested in sharing a Hilton car?

- Ralph

On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:51 PM 3/30/16, Suzanne =
Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:

So, I took what =
looked like the easy way out and booked a car from the Hilton. This is =
done by sending an email message to the concierge, per the information =
on the wiki.

This is not =
actually on the wiki, it turns out. I found it on the Hilton website; =
there=E2=80=99s a sidebar on the =E2=80=9CMaps & Directions=E2=80=9D =
page with a link to their =E2=80=9CTransportation Guide.=E2=80=9D

I=E2=80=99ll add it as =
soon as the current lock on the wiki page expires, but: http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/argentina/hilton-buenos-aires-=
BUEHIHH/attractions/transportation-info.html


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Ralph,  I'm on UA 819 arriving Sat.  I'll have a car waiting for me. I'm
staying at an Airbnb next to Hilton. I can give you a ride (and probably
somebody else if interested, message me).

Nacho

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Ralph Droms  wrote:

> Oops, wrong arrival date.  That's UA 819 arriving EZE *Saturday*, April 2=
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>
> - Ralph
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> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:50 PM 3/30/16, Ralph Droms 
> wrote:
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> Anyone else arriving on UA 819 Friday interested in sharing a Hilton car?
>
> - Ralph
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> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:51 PM 3/30/16, Suzanne Woolf 
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> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Suzanne Woolf  wrote=
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> So, I took what looked like the easy way out and booked a car from the
> Hilton. This is done by sending an email message to the concierge, per th=
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> information on the wiki.
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> This is not actually on the wiki, it turns out. I found it on the Hilton
> website; there=E2=80=99s a sidebar on the =E2=80=9CMaps & Directions=E2=
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> their =E2=80=9CTransportation Guide.=E2=80=9D
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> I=E2=80=99ll add it as soon as the current lock on the wiki page expires,=
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> http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/argentina/hilton-buenos-aires-BUEHIHH/at=
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Ralph, =C2=A0I'm on UA 819 arriving Sat.=C2=A0 I'l=
l have a car waiting for me. I'm staying at an Airbnb next to Hilton. I=
 can give you a ride (and probably somebody else if interested, message me)=
.

Nacho

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Ralph Droms <rdr=
oms.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
=

Oops, wrong arrival date.=C2=A0 That=
9;s UA 819 arriving EZE *Saturday*, April 2.

- Ralph

On Mar 30, 2016, at=
 6:50 PM 3/30/16, Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone else arriving on UA 819 Friday interes=
ted in sharing a Hilton car?

- Ralph

=

On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:51 PM 3/30/16, Suzanne=
 Woolf <suzw=
orldwide@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 P=
M, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:

So, I took what l=
ooked like the easy way out and booked a car from the Hilton. This is done =
by sending an email message to the concierge, per the information on the wi=
ki.

This is not actually on the wiki, it turns ou=
t. I found it on the Hilton website; there=E2=80=99s a sidebar on the =E2=
=80=9CMaps & Directions=E2=80=9D page with a link to their =E2=80=9CTra=
nsportation Guide.=E2=80=9D

I=E2=80=99ll add it as=
 soon as the current lock on the wiki page expires, but:=C2=A0http://www3.hilton.com/en=
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Suzanne

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I'm arriving Thursday morning, and I'd love to share a ride with someone. 

Sue

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Has anyone come in to AEP?  I can not tell from the wiki what the taxi
arrangements are from there to get to the hotel.

Thank you,
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> Stephane Bortzmeyer [mailto:bortzmeyer+ietf@nic.fr] Sent: Wednesday, Marc=
h 30, 2016 5:48 PM
>Also, never forget there is a Wiki

The Wiki does mention AEP but  what I can tell instructions for taxi Ezeiza=
 and fare seem to refer to ride out of EZE and there has not been much disc=
ussion on IETFers arriving/leaving out of AEP. There is an implicit assumpt=
ion and probably rightly so most IETF attendees would be flying in and out =
of EZE. But, happy to see some helpful information coming through now for A=
EP.

-Sanjay

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 05:36:52PM -0400,  Mishra, Sanjay  wrote  a message of 27 lines which said:

> There are other bits of advice noted in here.=20

Also, never forget there is a Wiki

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I am also on UA 819 arriving Saturday, but headed to the Holiday Inn. =
Happy to add a passenger. I booked a car with Ezeiza.

> On Mar 30, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Ralph Droms  =
wrote:
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> Anyone else arriving on UA 819 Friday interested in sharing a Hilton =
car?
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> - Ralph
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>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:51 PM 3/30/16, Suzanne Woolf =
> wrote:
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>>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Suzanne Woolf > wrote:
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>>> So, I took what looked like the easy way out and booked a car from =
the Hilton. This is done by sending an email message to the concierge, =
per the information on the wiki.
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>> This is not actually on the wiki, it turns out. I found it on the =
Hilton website; there=E2=80=99s a sidebar on the =E2=80=9CMaps & =
Directions=E2=80=9D page with a link to their =E2=80=9CTransportation =
Guide.=E2=80=9D
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>> I=E2=80=99ll add it as soon as the current lock on the wiki page =
expires, but: =
http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/argentina/hilton-buenos-aires-BUEHIHH/att=
ractions/transportation-info.html =

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>> Suzanne
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I am also on UA 819 arriving Saturday, but headed to the =
Holiday Inn. Happy to add a passenger. I booked a car with Ezeiza.

On Mar 30, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone else =
arriving on UA 819 Friday interested in sharing a Hilton car?

- Ralph

On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:51 PM 3/30/16, Suzanne =
Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:

So, I took what =
looked like the easy way out and booked a car from the Hilton. This is =
done by sending an email message to the concierge, per the information =
on the wiki.

This is not =
actually on the wiki, it turns out. I found it on the Hilton website; =
there=E2=80=99s a sidebar on the =E2=80=9CMaps & Directions=E2=80=9D =
page with a link to their =E2=80=9CTransportation Guide.=E2=80=9D

I=E2=80=99ll add it as =
soon as the current lock on the wiki page expires, but: http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/argentina/hilton-buenos-aires-=
BUEHIHH/attractions/transportation-info.html


Suzanne


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The lobby bar has quite a lot of outlets in the floor, pretty much
right in the main walkways.  They're all Type I.

A quick exploration of the meeting area showed that the wall outlets
were all Type I as well, but the couple of power strips I saw plugged
into them were (extended) universal.  The NOCC will have to chime in
as to what strips they're using.


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> Pretty much any plastic card in the slot will work if its like other systems
> I've seen.  I tend to bring a few blank cards (old room keys for example)

In most hotels (I can't say yet about the Hilton), either a business
card or the cardboard folder they put your room key in (folded in half
to make it fit) will also work.  There's just a small switch in there.

Barry


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Folks,

This hasn't been announced here, so: 


** Workshop on Internet Measurement Standardization at the IETF **
**           April 3rd, 2016. Buenos Aires, Argentina           **
**        Chair: Marcelo Bagnulo            **

About

The Workshop on Internet Measurement Standardization at the IETF will
provide an opportunity to approach IETF measurement standardization.

Attendance

Attendance to this workshop is open and free, but you need to register
beforehand here:
.


Confirmed talks

* Designing Privacy into Internet Protocols -- Juan Carlos Zuniga
* Large-scale measurements: use cases and the LMAP framework -- Philip
  Eardley (BT’s Networks Research team)
* Informing Protocol Design Through Crowdsourcing: the Case of
  Pervasive Encryption -- Marcelo Bagnulo (UC3M)
* Benchmarking Performance of Virtual Network Functions (VNF) -- Al
  Morton (AT&T)
* IPv6 Extension Headers in the Real World -- Fernando Gont (SI6
  Networks)
* Measurements at LACNIC -- Agustin Formoso (LACNIC)


More info, details, etc. available at: 


Thanks!

Best regards,
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> On Mar 30, 2016, at 2:03 PM, David C Lawrence  wrote:
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> Luciano Minuchin writes:
>> My recommendation is to take the official taxi from the airport , you
>> can book on lines in http://www.taxiezeiza.com.ar the price is $ 450
>> pesos , which is about $ 30 , will be waiting with your name on a
>> poster when arriving 'll be tired and jet lag. It is best to avoid
>> problems.
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> I took this advice, in part hoping to pay in advance online with a
> credit card.  Unfortunately online you can only make a reservation by
> giving your name, contact email and cell phone, and flight arrival
> information.  No payment.
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> Immigrations and customs took a crazy long amount of time this
> morning, over an hour.  Oh, about Customs.  The form you get on the
> plane has a space to indicate your cell phone brand, model, and any
> accessories.  Not your number.  There's no explanation of why this
> information is requested, and I heard later that most people just
> leave it blank.  It doesn't seem to matter either way since no one at
> Customs was collecting these forms.  (I guess they do if you have
> something to declare.)  I left the building with mine still in my hand.
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> When finally exiting Customs, you first come into a narrow area where
> a bunch of taxi (remise) companies are trying to get your business.
> Taxi Ezeiza is not here; to get to your reservation you have to fully
> leave to the main hall, and it is a bit ahead on your left.
>=20
> Reservation names are on placards around the booth, and it wasn't
> clear how that related to the queue also in front of the booth.  So I
> went up and indicated my placard and asked what I should do, and the
> attendant said he would handle me next.  I felt slightly guilty
> because apparently that just line-hopped other people who also had
> reservations (including Keith Mitchell) but who had not gotten their
> placard.  A bit disorganized.
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> To my surprise they do not take credit cards at the booth either, but
> they do take US dollars.  $39 to the Hilton.  I had made a reservation
> for just one person but met Ralf Weber in Houston and said I'd share
> the ride with him.  The additional passenger was no charge.
>=20
> The porter who led us to the taxi explicitly requested a tip, a bit
> contrary to what I was led to believe about tipping culture here.  The
> only small money I had then was a single US dollar that I had just
> gotten in change from the booth. This he seemed to accept as adequate.
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> The taxi itself was a compact car, with enough trunk room for two
> medium-sized suitcases and a large backpack.  I don't think it would
> have held much more.  Three people would be pretty tight in that
> vehicle, but maybe a reservation for three people would score a larger
> one.  The driver spoke no practical English (and I, alas, habla solo
> un poco de Espanol).
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> Sorry this message was long, but hope that it helps some of you who,
> like me, are first time visitors to Buenos Aires.
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I have a buddy now, so this offer is closed

> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Fred Baker (fred)  wrote:
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> I am also on UA 819 arriving Saturday, but headed to the Holiday Inn. =
Happy to add a passenger. I booked a car with Ezeiza.
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>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Ralph Droms > wrote:
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>> Anyone else arriving on UA 819 Friday interested in sharing a Hilton =
car?
>>=20
>> - Ralph
>>=20
>>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:51 PM 3/30/16, Suzanne Woolf =
> wrote:
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>>>=20
>>>> On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Suzanne Woolf > wrote:
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>>>> So, I took what looked like the easy way out and booked a car from =
the Hilton. This is done by sending an email message to the concierge, =
per the information on the wiki.
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>>> This is not actually on the wiki, it turns out. I found it on the =
Hilton website; there=E2=80=99s a sidebar on the =E2=80=9CMaps & =
Directions=E2=80=9D page with a link to their =E2=80=9CTransportation =
Guide.=E2=80=9D
>>>=20
>>> I=E2=80=99ll add it as soon as the current lock on the wiki page =
expires, but: =
http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/argentina/hilton-buenos-aires-BUEHIHH/att=
ractions/transportation-info.html =

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>>>=20
>>> Suzanne
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I have a buddy now, so this offer is closed

On =
Mar 30, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> =
wrote:

I am also on =
UA 819 arriving Saturday, but headed to the Holiday Inn. Happy to add a =
passenger. I booked a car with Ezeiza.

On Mar =
30, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone else =
arriving on UA 819 Friday interested in sharing a Hilton car?

- Ralph

On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:51 PM 3/30/16, Suzanne =
Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:


On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Suzanne Woolf <suzworldwide@gmail.com> wrote:

So, I took what =
looked like the easy way out and booked a car from the Hilton. This is =
done by sending an email message to the concierge, per the information =
on the wiki.

This is not =
actually on the wiki, it turns out. I found it on the Hilton website; =
there=E2=80=99s a sidebar on the =E2=80=9CMaps & Directions=E2=80=9D =
page with a link to their =E2=80=9CTransportation Guide.=E2=80=9D

I=E2=80=99ll add it as =
soon as the current lock on the wiki page expires, but: http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/argentina/hilton-buenos-aires-=
BUEHIHH/attractions/transportation-info.html


Suzanne


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Indeed! I take that flight often and I have never seen economy+ sold out=C2=
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:07 PM -0700, "Gregory Mirsky"  wrote:




















Nacho suggested to rent a bus for IETFers arriving on UA819 on Saturday. Ma=
y be not too far off.


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From: 95attendees [mailto:95attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
On Behalf Of Fred Baker (fred)

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Subject: Re: [95attendees] Airport transportation




=C2=A0


I have a buddy now, so this offer is closed



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On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Fred Baker (fred)  wrote:



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I am also on UA 819 arriving Saturday, but headed to the Holiday Inn. Happy=
 to add a passenger. I booked a car with=C2=A0Ezeiza.



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On Mar 30, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Ralph Droms  wrote:



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Anyone else arriving on UA 819 Friday interested in sharing a Hilton car?



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- Ralph




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On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:51 PM 3/30/16, Suzanne Woolf =
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On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Suzanne Woolf  wrote:



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So, I took what looked like the easy way out and booked a car from the Hilt=
on. This is done by sending an email message to the concierge, per the info=
rmation on the wiki.




This is not actually on the wiki, it turns out. I found it on the Hilton we=
bsite; there=E2=80=99s a sidebar on the =E2=80=9CMaps & Directions=E2=80=9D=
 page with a link to their =E2=80=9CTransportation Guide.=E2=80=9D




=C2=A0




I=E2=80=99ll add it as soon as the current lock on the wiki page expires, b=
ut:=C2=A0http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/argentina/hilton-buenos-aires-BUE=
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Indeed! I take that flight often a=
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Nacho suggested to rent a=
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From: 95attend=
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I have a buddy now, so this offer is closed




 








On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:07 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <<=
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I am also on UA 819 arriving Saturday, but headed to=
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On Mar 30, 2016, at 3:50 PM, Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:=





 






Anyone else arriving on UA 819 Friday interested in =
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- Ralph






 








On Mar 30, 2016, at 6:51 PM 3/30/16, Suzanne Woolf &=
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So, I took what looke=
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ending an email message to the concierge, per the information on the wiki.<=
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This is not actually on the wiki, it turns out. I fo=
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s & Directions=E2=80=9D page with a link to their =E2=80=9CTransportati=
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I=E2=80=99ll add it as soon as the current lock on t=
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Hi,

Anybody reaching EZE on Saturday (2nd April) morning by LH 510 or other
flights arriving around the same time ..?

Looking for options to ride together.

Anil




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I think this is a good time to remind people of the arrival coordination =
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s

> On 31 Mar 2016, at 11:22 AM, anil@cmmacs.ernet.in wrote:
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> Hi,
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> Anybody reaching EZE on Saturday (2nd April) morning by LH 510 or =
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> flights arriving around the same time ..?
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> Looking for options to ride together.
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> Anil
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> On Mar 31, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Mishra, Sanjay =
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> Hi Joel -- I am also flying into AEP (arriving on Sunday  ~3pm from =
IAD via GRU). I have in fact just before your email sent a unicast to =
Fernando with a similar question (as I had not seen any emails on AEP), =
perhaps he and others can respond.  =20


Thank you for starting the thread in regards AEP - I=E2=80=99ve been =
meaning to ask as I arrive through there too. All good info so far and =
appreciate ti being shared.

Cheers,
Daniel


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Got stuck in Abu Dhabi airport due to connecting flight miss, now grounded =
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Regards,
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Hi ,


 


Got stuck in Abu Dhabi airport due to connecting flight miss, now grou=
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Regards,


Sudhin


 





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I just found this page, http://landingpadba.com/tickets-and-tours/soccer-sa=
n-lorenzo-home-game/

Does anyone know if it can be trusted?
Did anyone check if Hilton can help with arrangements, and if so, what does=
 it cost?

Anyone that would be interested in joining for the Sunday game?

	B=F6rje

> On 29 mars 2016, at 20:04, Fernando Gont  wrote:
>=20
> I'll post a longer email soon (right now swamped with stuff), but please
> beware:
>=20
> football matches in Argentina can be dangerous (dangerous=3D risk of
> getting hurt, if not worse... (risk of pickpocketing... (2+)xParis :-) ).
>=20
> If you think that going to a football match in Argentina is like going
> to see vancouver canucks play against [whoevertheirrivalsare], then you
> don't know what you're getting into.
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> Yes, lots of tourist go and see Boca play. And I've never heard of a
> tourist getting into big trouble (injured, killed, or the like).
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> I'm not saying "don't do it". I'm just saying that folks planning to
> attend should beware of what they are doing.
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> Quick rule of tumb: dress as simple as possible, strip any golden/silver
> chains, keep your watch wallet in the hotel, and only take as much money
> as necessary to get you back to your hotel. Besides, the less flashy
> your shoes, the better. And don't bring your bright new Boca t-shirt...
> it could be gone.
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> Particularly if you don't speak spanish, try to stay close to other
> tourists, and the less people hear you talk in a different language, the
> better.
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>=20
> (yes, if you get a pricey ticket, things can/may be different). And you
> could just be lucky and the above nonsense. But hope for the best, and
> plan for the worst.
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> Cheers,
> Fernando
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>=20
>=20
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> On 03/29/2016 07:44 PM, B=F6rje Ohlman wrote:
>> As I'm already in BA I wonder if there are any games on this week?
>>=20
>>      B=F6rje
>>=20
>> 22 mars 2016 kl. 18:11 skrev Guillermo Cicileo > >:
>>=20
>>> Hi Kevin:
>>>=20
>>> Boca Juniors will be playing at "La Bombonera" on Sunday for the
>>> Primera Division tournament but also on Thursday for Copa
>>> Libertadores. The match will begin at 7:30 PM. Most hotels usually
>>> sell tickets and could arrange transportation for you.
>>>=20
>>> Regards,
>>>=20
>>>      Guillermo.
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group
>>> > wrote:
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>>>    HI, ____
>>>=20
>>>    __ __
>>>=20
>>>    As this may be my only chance to see some live Argentinian
>>>    football, I=92m looking at attending either River Plate vs. The
>>>    Strongest in the Copa Libertadores match on the Wednesday, or Boca
>>>    vs Atl=E9tico Rafaela in the Primera Divisi=F3n on the Sunday. Pleas=
e
>>>    can any BA locals provide tips on getting tickets for these
>>>    members-only clubs?____
>>>=20
>>>    __ __
>>>=20
>>>    Many thanks!____
>>>=20
>>>    Kevin____
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AEP is small and easy. Just outside immigration and customs there are two =
or three official taxi stands. Tell them where you are going, pay at the =
counter and that should be it.

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> On Mar 31, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Mishra, Sanjay  =
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> Hi Joel -- I am also flying into AEP (arriving on Sunday ~3pm =
from IAD via GRU). I have in fact just before your email sent a unicast to =
Fernando with a similar question (as I had not seen any emails on AEP), =
perhaps he and others can respond.


Thank you for starting the thread in =
regards AEP - I=E2=80=99ve been meaning to ask as I arrive through there =
too. All good info so far and appreciate ti being shared.

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AEP is small and easy. Just outside immigration and =
customs there are two or three official taxi stands. Tell them where you =
are going, pay at the counter and that should be it. 

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> On Mar 31, 2016, at 1:36 AM, Mishra, =
Sanjay <sanjay.mishra@verizon.com> wrote:
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> Hi Joel --=
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have in fact just before your email sent a unicast to Fernando with a =
similar question (as I had not seen any emails on AEP), perhaps he and =
others can respond.   


Thank you for starting the thread in =
regards AEP - I=E2=80=99ve been meaning to ask as I arrive through there =
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Too bad, Sudhin!!!
If you charged the Iguazu trip on a credit card, sometimes the card has a t=
ravel insurance benefit. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Nalini
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 Nalini

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Due to Ethihad my Iguazu plan got cancelled and all the dollars=
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Regards,
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> The lobby bar has quite a lot of outlets in the floor, pretty much
> right in the main walkways.  They're all Type I.
> 
> A quick exploration of the meeting area showed that the wall outlets
> were all Type I as well, but the couple of power strips I saw plugged
> into them were (extended) universal.  The NOCC will have to chime in
> as to what strips they're using.

as i said a week+ ago, the hotel, not the noc, deploys the meeting room
power.  and we are not sure what they will actually deploy.

randy


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> > https://goo.gl/maps/mig5RCE8H1C2
> 
> I did that walk twice last night, 7PM and 11PM, and it was just fine. 
> There was a nice band playing in the plaza on the way back.

No issues this morning either, and fwiw I saw a lot of people walking
around casually with their phones out.  I pondered just how many I
could have grabbed and run off with if I didn't have a bum leg.  Ah,
the lost opportunities.

Oh, and apparently the Federal Police are setting up barricades around
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On 03/30/2016 05:28 PM, David C Lawrence wrote:
> Randy Bush writes:
>>> noc gossip has found http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00A17I2KC
>> further noc gossip, fwiw
>>    o sampled rooms in hilton also have JP/EU/US
> Elevating beyond gossip:
>
> The Hilton rooms have both Argentinian Type I outlets (two diagonal
> flat blades above a vertical flat blade) as well as "universal" power
> outlets which take at least US/JP type A/B (two vertical blades with
> optional ground pin) and European Type C/E/F (two pin).  UK Type G
> won't fit the ground pin.  Various other types also seem unlikely, but
> I didn't take measurements.
>
> There is a universal outlet both at the desk and in the bathroom.
>
> Also the general room and bathroom lights only work if you leave your
> key in the slot by the door.  The desk outlets work regardless of
> whether the key is in the slot.
Typically any plastic card words.  I use my Delta card, or my IEEE card 
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On 03/30/2016 05:28 PM, David C
      Lawrence wrote:

    

    

      
Randy Bush writes:


      

        

          
noc gossip has found http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00A17I2KC


        

        
further noc gossip, fwiw
  o sampled rooms in hilton also have JP/EU/US


      

      
Elevating beyond gossip:

The Hilton rooms have both Argentinian Type I outlets (two diagonal
flat blades above a vertical flat blade) as well as "universal" power
outlets which take at least US/JP type A/B (two vertical blades with
optional ground pin) and European Type C/E/F (two pin).  UK Type G
won't fit the ground pin.  Various other types also seem unlikely, but
I didn't take measurements.

There is a universal outlet both at the desk and in the bathroom.

Also the general room and bathroom lights only work if you leave your
key in the slot by the door.  The desk outlets work regardless of
whether the key is in the slot.

    

    Typically any plastic card words.  I use my Delta card, or my IEEE
    card for such things...

    

    

      

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And I don't get there until monday morning ~9:30.  Family activities 
over the weekend means no departure until sunday evening...

On 03/30/2016 08:09 PM, Susan Hares wrote:
> I'm arriving Thursday morning, and I'd love to share a ride with someone.
>
> Sue
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> Has anyone come in to AEP?  I can not tell from the wiki what the taxi
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    And I don't get there until monday morning ~9:30.  Family activities
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I'm arriving Thursday morning, and I'd love to share a ride with someone. 

Sue

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Has anyone come in to AEP?  I can not tell from the wiki what the taxi
arrangements are from there to get to the hotel.

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To: Fernando Gont , =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6rje_Ohlman?= , Guillermo Cicileo 
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Good advice Fernando, cheers. This is a great read on how not to do it:

http://robbro7.com/2013/12/06/looking-for-riquelme-part-iii-where-there-is-=
a-will-there-is-a-way/=20

(and part 4 where he actually gets in)

 But in case I can't watch a match I'm looking forward to playing in the IE=
TF game more :)

All best,
Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: Fernando Gont [mailto:fernando@gont.com.ar]=20
Sent: 29 March 2016 19:05
To: B=F6rje Ohlman; Guillermo Cicileo
Cc: 95attendees@ietf.org; Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group
Subject: Re: [95attendees] [Tourist Tips] Boca Juniors / River Plate matche=
s

I'll post a longer email soon (right now swamped with stuff), but please
beware:

football matches in Argentina can be dangerous (dangerous=3D risk of gettin=
g hurt, if not worse... (risk of pickpocketing... (2+)xParis :-) ).

If you think that going to a football match in Argentina is like going to s=
ee vancouver canucks play against [whoevertheirrivalsare], then you don't k=
now what you're getting into.

Yes, lots of tourist go and see Boca play. And I've never heard of a touris=
t getting into big trouble (injured, killed, or the like).

I'm not saying "don't do it". I'm just saying that folks planning to attend=
 should beware of what they are doing.

Quick rule of tumb: dress as simple as possible, strip any golden/silver ch=
ains, keep your watch wallet in the hotel, and only take as much money as n=
ecessary to get you back to your hotel. Besides, the less flashy your shoes=
, the better. And don't bring your bright new Boca t-shirt...
it could be gone.

Particularly if you don't speak spanish, try to stay close to other tourist=
s, and the less people hear you talk in a different language, the better.


(yes, if you get a pricey ticket, things can/may be different). And you cou=
ld just be lucky and the above nonsense. But hope for the best, and plan fo=
r the worst.

Cheers,
Fernando




On 03/29/2016 07:44 PM, B=F6rje Ohlman wrote:
> As I'm already in BA I wonder if there are any games on this week?
>=20
>       B=F6rje
>=20
> 22 mars 2016 kl. 18:11 skrev Guillermo Cicileo  >:
>=20
>> Hi Kevin:
>>
>> Boca Juniors will be playing at "La Bombonera" on Sunday for the=20
>> Primera Division tournament but also on Thursday for Copa=20
>> Libertadores. The match will begin at 7:30 PM. Most hotels usually=20
>> sell tickets and could arrange transportation for you.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>       Guillermo.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group=20
>> > wrote:
>>
>>     HI, ____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     As this may be my only chance to see some live Argentinian
>>     football, I'm looking at attending either River Plate vs. The
>>     Strongest in the Copa Libertadores match on the Wednesday, or Boca
>>     vs Atl=E9tico Rafaela in the Primera Divisi=F3n on the Sunday. Pleas=
e
>>     can any BA locals provide tips on getting tickets for these
>>     members-only clubs?____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     Many thanks!____
>>
>>     Kevin____
>>
>>     __ __
>>
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On 31/03/2016 11:02, George, Wes wrote:

> Is Tienda Leon the only option, and is it only possible to use a credit
> card if you pre-pay, or is there a way to do it for Taxi Ezeiza as well?

I got a cab for 575 pesos (paid with Mastercard, and including tolls)
from "Transfer Express", whose booth was right next to Tienda Leon's
just outside the custom's hall but had no queue.

Tienda Leon's quoted fare was 630 pesos, apparently not including tolls.

The cab was a little ropey (not sure if it was marked as a cab, and the
engine warning light was on) but the driver did get me to where I wanted
to go.

[ like others have noticed, no-one seemed to be collecting the customs
forms ].

Ray


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On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM, B=C3=B6rje Ohlman 
wrote:

> I just found this page,
> http://landingpadba.com/tickets-and-tours/soccer-san-lorenzo-home-game/
>
> Does anyone know if it can be trusted?
> Did anyone check if Hilton can help with arrangements, and if so, what
> does it cost?
>
> Anyone that would be interested in joining for the Sunday game?
>

I don't know about that page, I concur with Fernando's remarks, use a blue
jean, a t-shirt (maybe of the home team, do NOT use visitor's jersey... you
not only may get hurt, but they'll probably won't allow you into the
stadium).

On *Saturday* *2*nd *Boca Juniors* plays local (against Atl=C3=A9tico Rafae=
la)
at *5:45 PM*, and *Racing Club* plays local against Tigre at *3:30 PM*.

On *Sunday 3*rd, *San Lorenzo* plays local against Belgrano de C=C3=B3rdoba=
 at *4:15
PM*. *If you intend to see this match, arrange for full door to door
service both ways since San Lorenzo stadium is in a really dangerous
neighbourhood*.

The *following weekend* have no days/times scheduled yet, but *River Plate*
will play local against Sarmiento de Jun=C3=ADn and *Independiente* will pl=
ay
local against Olimpo de Bah=C3=ADa Blanca.


As for the *Copa Libertadores*:

*Hurac=C3=A1n* will play against Per=C3=BA's Sporting Cristal on *Tuesday 5=
*th at
*7:30PM*

*River Plate* will play against Bolivia's The Strongest on *Wednesday 6*th
at *7:30PM* (I will probably go to this one, but can't get extra tickets,
regretfully).

*Boca Juniors* plays against Bolivia's Bolivar on *Thursday 7*th at *7:30PM=
*
and *Racing Club* against Colombia's Deportivo Cali at *9:45PM*.


--
Mariano Absatz - El Baby
www.clueless.com.ar


>
>         B=C3=B6rje
>
> > On 29 mars 2016, at 20:04, Fernando Gont  wrote:
> >
> > I'll post a longer email soon (right now swamped with stuff), but pleas=
e
> > beware:
> >
> > football matches in Argentina can be dangerous (dangerous=3D risk of
> > getting hurt, if not worse... (risk of pickpocketing... (2+)xParis :-) =
).
> >
> > If you think that going to a football match in Argentina is like going
> > to see vancouver canucks play against [whoevertheirrivalsare], then you
> > don't know what you're getting into.
> >
> > Yes, lots of tourist go and see Boca play. And I've never heard of a
> > tourist getting into big trouble (injured, killed, or the like).
> >
> > I'm not saying "don't do it". I'm just saying that folks planning to
> > attend should beware of what they are doing.
> >
> > Quick rule of tumb: dress as simple as possible, strip any golden/silve=
r
> > chains, keep your watch wallet in the hotel, and only take as much mone=
y
> > as necessary to get you back to your hotel. Besides, the less flashy
> > your shoes, the better. And don't bring your bright new Boca t-shirt...
> > it could be gone.
> >
> > Particularly if you don't speak spanish, try to stay close to other
> > tourists, and the less people hear you talk in a different language, th=
e
> > better.
> >
> >
> > (yes, if you get a pricey ticket, things can/may be different). And you
> > could just be lucky and the above nonsense. But hope for the best, and
> > plan for the worst.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Fernando
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 03/29/2016 07:44 PM, B=C3=B6rje Ohlman wrote:
> >> As I'm already in BA I wonder if there are any games on this week?
> >>
> >>      B=C3=B6rje
> >>
> >> 22 mars 2016 kl. 18:11 skrev Guillermo Cicileo  >> >:
> >>
> >>> Hi Kevin:
> >>>
> >>> Boca Juniors will be playing at "La Bombonera" on Sunday for the
> >>> Primera Division tournament but also on Thursday for Copa
> >>> Libertadores. The match will begin at 7:30 PM. Most hotels usually
> >>> sell tickets and could arrange transportation for you.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>      Guillermo.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodafone Group
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>    HI, ____
> >>>
> >>>    __ __
> >>>
> >>>    As this may be my only chance to see some live Argentinian
> >>>    football, I=E2=80=99m looking at attending either River Plate vs. =
The
> >>>    Strongest in the Copa Libertadores match on the Wednesday, or Boca
> >>>    vs Atl=C3=A9tico Rafaela in the Primera Divisi=C3=B3n on the Sunda=
y. Please
> >>>    can any BA locals provide tips on getting tickets for these
> >>>    members-only clubs?____
> >>>
> >>>    __ __
> >>>
> >>>    Many thanks!____
> >>>
> >>>    Kevin____
> >>>
> >>>    __ __
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    _______________________________________________
> >>>    95attendees mailing list
> >>>    95attendees@ietf.org 
> >>>    https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> 95attendees mailing list
> >>> 95attendees@ietf.org 
> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees
> >>
> >>
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> >
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 7:07 AM, B=C3=B6rje Ohlman &=
lt;borje.ohl=
man@ericsson.com> wrote:
I just found this page, http://landingpadba.com/tickets-and-tours/soccer-san-lore=
nzo-home-game/



Does anyone know if it can be trusted?

Did anyone check if Hilton can help with arrangements, and if so, what does=
 it cost?



Anyone that would be interested in joining for the Sunday game?

I don't know about that page, I concur with Fe=
rnando's remarks, use a blue jean, a t-shirt (maybe of the home team, d=
o NOT use visitor's jersey... you not only may get hurt, but they'l=
l probably won't allow you into the stadium).

=
On Saturday=C2=A02nd Boca Juniors plays local (against=
 Atl=C3=A9tico Rafaela) at 5:45 PM, and Racing Club plays loc=
al against Tigre at 3:30 PM.

On Sunday 3=
rd, San Lorenzo plays local against Belgrano de C=C3=B3rdoba at =
4:15 PM. If you intend to see this match, arrange for full doo=
r to door service both ways since San Lorenzo stadium is in a really danger=
ous neighbourhood.

The following weeken=
d have no days/times scheduled yet, but River Plate will play lo=
cal against Sarmiento de Jun=C3=ADn and Independiente will play loca=
l against Olimpo de Bah=C3=ADa Blanca.


<=
div>As for the Copa Libertadores:

Hurac=C3=A1n will play against Per=C3=BA's Sporting Cristal on =
Tuesday 5th at 7:30PM

River Plate will play against Bolivia's The Strongest on Wednesday 6th at =
7:30PM (I will probably go to this one, but can't get extra tick=
ets, regretfully).

Boca Juniors plays against Bolivia's Bolivar o=
n Thursday 7th at 7:30PM and Racing Club against Colom=
bia's Deportivo Cali at 9:45PM.
=


--
Mariano Absatz - El Baby
www.clueless.com.ar
<=
/div>
=C2=A0



=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 B=C3=B6rje



> On 29 mars 2016, at 20:04, Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar> wrote:

>

> I'll post a longer email soon (right now swamped with stuff), but =
please

> beware:

>

> football matches in Argentina can be dangerous (dangerous=3D risk of
> getting hurt, if not worse... (risk of pickpocketing... (2+)xParis :-)=
 ).

>

> If you think that going to a football match in Argentina is like going=


> to see vancouver canucks play against [whoevertheirrivalsare], then yo=
u

> don't know what you're getting into.

>

> Yes, lots of tourist go and see Boca play. And I've never heard of=
 a

> tourist getting into big trouble (injured, killed, or the like).

>

> I'm not saying "don't do it". I'm just saying th=
at folks planning to

> attend should beware of what they are doing.

>

> Quick rule of tumb: dress as simple as possible, strip any golden/silv=
er

> chains, keep your watch wallet in the hotel, and only take as much mon=
ey

> as necessary to get you back to your hotel. Besides, the less flashy
> your shoes, the better. And don't bring your bright new Boca t-shi=
rt...

> it could be gone.

>

> Particularly if you don't speak spanish, try to stay close to othe=
r

> tourists, and the less people hear you talk in a different language, t=
he

> better.

>

>

> (yes, if you get a pricey ticket, things can/may be different). And yo=
u

> could just be lucky and the above nonsense. But hope for the best, and=


> plan for the worst.

>

> Cheers,

> Fernando

>

>

>

>

> On 03/29/2016 07:44 PM, B=C3=B6rje Ohlman wrote:

>> As I'm already in BA I wonder if there are any games on this w=
eek?

>>

>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 B=C3=B6rje

>>

>> 22 mars 2016 kl. 18:11 skrev Guillermo Cicileo <gcicileo@gmail.com

>> <mailto:gcicileo@gmail.co=
m>>:

>>

>>> Hi Kevin:

>>>

>>> Boca Juniors will be playing at "La Bombonera" on Su=
nday for the

>>> Primera Division tournament but also on Thursday for Copa

>>> Libertadores. The match will begin at 7:30 PM. Most hotels usu=
ally

>>> sell tickets and could arrange transportation for you.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>>

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Guillermo.

>>>

>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Smith, Kevin, (R&D) Vodaf=
one Group

>>> <Kevin.Smith@vo=
dafone.com <mailto:Kevin=
.Smith@vodafone.com>> wrote:

>>>

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 HI, ____

>>>

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 __ __

>>>

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As this may be my only chance to see some live Ar=
gentinian

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 football, I=E2=80=99m looking at attending either=
 River Plate vs. The

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Strongest in the Copa Libertadores match on the W=
ednesday, or Boca

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 vs Atl=C3=A9tico Rafaela in the Primera Divisi=C3=
=B3n on the Sunday. Please

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 can any BA locals provide tips on getting tickets=
 for these

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 members-only clubs?____

>>>

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 __ __

>>>

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Many thanks!____

>>>

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Kevin____

>>>

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 __ __

>>>

>>>

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______________________________________________
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 95attendees mailing list

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 95attende=
es@ietf.org <mailto:95attend=
ees@ietf.org>

>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.ietf.org/mail=
man/listinfo/95attendees

>>>

>>>

>>> _______________________________________________

>>> 95attendees mailing list

>>> 95attendees@ietf.org <mailto:95attendees@ietf.org<=
/a>>

>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/=
95attendees

>>

>>

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>> 95attendees mailing list

>> 95attendees@ietf.org
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>>

>

>

> --

> Fernando Gont

> e-mail: fernando@gont.com.ar || fgont@si6networks.com
> PGP Fingerprint: 7809 84F5 322E 45C7 F1C9 3945 96EE A9EF D076 FFF1

>

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>From a travel bulletin just issued:

The Association of Airline Pilots has announced that employees of
Aerol=C3=ADneas Argentinas will conduct a 24-hour strike on *1 April*. The
strike, which is scheduled to commence at*00.01 (local time)*, is likely to
cause disruption to Aerol=C3=ADneas Argentinas flights on the day, with res=
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I have no other data, but probably worth re-checking your flights if they
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From a travel bulletin just iss=
ued:

The Association of Airli=
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onduct a 24-hour strike on=C2=A01 April. The=
 strike, which is scheduled to commence at00.01 (local time), is lik=
ely to cause disruption to Aerol=C3=ADneas Argentinas flights on the day, w=
ith residual disruption likely to persist in the hours after the industrial=
 action ends.

I have no=
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arrier.

Ted
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thanks Ted, I have an Aerolineas flight early morning tomorrow

I might end up just taking the ferry

On 3/31/16 12:28 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:
> From a travel bulletin just issued:
>
> The Association of Airline Pilots has announced that employees of
> Aerolíneas Argentinas will conduct a 24-hour strike on *1 April*. The
> strike, which is scheduled to commence at*00.01 (local time)*, is
> likely to cause disruption to Aerolíneas Argentinas flights on the
> day, with residual disruption likely to persist in the hours after the
> industrial action ends.
>
> I have no other data, but probably worth re-checking your flights if
> they are your carrier.
>
> Ted
>
>
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    thanks Ted, I have an Aerolineas flight early morning tomorrow 

      

      I might end up just taking the ferry

    

    
On 3/31/16 12:28 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:

    

    

      
From
          a travel bulletin just issued:

        
        


            The Association of Airline Pilots has announced that
            employees of Aerolíneas Argentinas will conduct a 24-hour
            strike on 1
            April.
            The strike, which is scheduled to commence at00.01
            (local time),
            is likely to cause disruption to Aerolíneas Argentinas
            flights on the day, with residual disruption likely to
            persist in the hours after the industrial action ends.

            

          

        
I
            have no other data, but probably worth re-checking your
            flights if they are your carrier.

            

          

        
Ted

          

      

      

      

      

      
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The strike is suspended now. No worries :)

http://www.infobae.com/2016/03/31/1800818-aerolineas-el-gobierno-dicto-la-conciliacion-obligatoria-y-el-gremio-levantara-el-paro

El 31/3/16 a las 12:29, Carlos M. Martinez escribió:
> thanks Ted, I have an Aerolineas flight early morning tomorrow
>
> I might end up just taking the ferry
>
> On 3/31/16 12:28 PM, Ted Hardie wrote:
>> From a travel bulletin just issued:
>>
>> The Association of Airline Pilots has announced that employees of
>> Aerolíneas Argentinas will conduct a 24-hour strike on *1 April*. The
>> strike, which is scheduled to commence at*00.01 (local time)*, is
>> likely to cause disruption to Aerolíneas Argentinas flights on the
>> day, with residual disruption likely to persist in the hours after
>> the industrial action ends.
>>
>> I have no other data, but probably worth re-checking your flights if
>> they are your carrier.
>>
>> Ted
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    The strike is suspended now. No worries :)

    

http://www.infobae.com/2016/03/31/1800818-aerolineas-el-gobierno-dicto-la-conciliacion-obligatoria-y-el-gremio-levantara-el-paro

    

    
El 31/3/16 a las 12:29, Carlos M.
      Martinez escribió:

    

    

      
      thanks Ted, I have an Aerolineas flight early morning tomorrow
        

        

        I might end up just taking the ferry

      

      
On 3/31/16 12:28 PM, Ted Hardie
        wrote:

      

      

        
From

            a travel bulletin just issued:

          
          


              The Association of Airline Pilots has announced that
              employees of Aerolíneas Argentinas will conduct a 24-hour
              strike on 1
              April.
              The strike, which is scheduled to commence at00.01

              (local time),
              is likely to cause disruption to Aerolíneas Argentinas
              flights on the day, with residual disruption likely to
              persist in the hours after the industrial action ends.

              

            

          
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              have no other data, but probably worth re-checking your
              flights if they are your carrier.

              

            

          
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Apparently every Thursday night the mothers of the disappeared protest
there. During the day today there will be a lorry strike (Lorry drivers
protesting taxes).

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Cheers, Rick

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David C Lawrence  wrote:

> Paul Hoffman writes:
> > > https://goo.gl/maps/mig5RCE8H1C2
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> > I did that walk twice last night, 7PM and 11PM, and it was just fine.
> > There was a nice band playing in the plaza on the way back.
>
> No issues this morning either, and fwiw I saw a lot of people walking
> around casually with their phones out.  I pondered just how many I
> could have grabbed and run off with if I didn't have a bum leg.  Ah,
> the lost opportunities.
>
> Oh, and apparently the Federal Police are setting up barricades around
> Plaza de Mayo.  Maybe for the teachers' protests?  I only paid a
> little attention to that thread and when/where they were supposed to
> be.
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Apparently every Thursday night the mothers of the disappe=
ared protest there. During the day today there will be a lorry strike (Lorr=
y drivers protesting taxes).

-------------------
Cheers, Rick


On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David C Law=
rence <tale@akamai.com> wrote:
Paul Hoffman writes:

> > https://goo.gl/maps/mig5RCE8H1C2

>

> I did that walk twice last night, 7PM and 11PM, and it was just fine.<=
br>
> There was a nice band playing in the plaza on the way back.



No issues this morning either, and fwiw I saw a lot of people walking

around casually with their phones out.=C2=A0 I pondered just how many I

could have grabbed and run off with if I didn't have a bum leg.=C2=A0 A=
h,

the lost opportunities.



Oh, and apparently the Federal Police are setting up barricades around

Plaza de Mayo.=C2=A0 Maybe for the teachers' protests?=C2=A0 I only pai=
d a

little attention to that thread and when/where they were supposed to

be.




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 Is there metro/subte  transportation from Sheraton to Hilton?
I am seeing rain forecast all next week.

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According to Google Maps, even the closest station to the Hilton =
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> On 31 Mar 2016, at 7:46 PM, Behcet Sarikaya  =
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Are people having the expected experience when transiting immigration--that
they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the reciprocity fee?
I'm getting mixed signals from the airline web site about this (they still
have a link to pay, and the link to pay still says you should pay).   What
are people's experiences so far?

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When I hit customs and showed them my form I got a "no necessito" and they
handed it back. I had paid for it months ago so brought it anyways. They
did not care and it is not needed.

-------------------
Cheers, Rick

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Ted Lemon  wrote:

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> immigration--that they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the
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When I hit customs and showed them my form I got a "n=
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brought it anyways. They did not care and it is not needed.

=

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On Mar 31, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Ted Lemon  wrote:
> Are people having the expected experience when transiting =
immigration--that they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the =
reciprocity fee?   I'm getting mixed signals from the airline web site =
about this (they still have a link to pay, and the link to pay still =
says you should pay).   What are people's experiences so far?

I've printed the "no reciprocity fee any more" page and plan to bring it =
along in hopes it may help defuse any such confusion.

=
http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-u=
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On Mar 31, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> =
wrote:
Are people having the expected =
experience when transiting immigration--that they aren't being asked to =
show that they've paid the reciprocity fee?   I'm getting mixed =
signals from the airline web site about this (they still have a link to =
pay, and the link to pay still says you should pay).   What are =
people's experiences so far?

I've printed the "no reciprocity fee any more" =
page and plan to bring it along in hopes it may help defuse any such =
confusion.


--John
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Ted Lemon writes:
> Are people having the expected experience when transiting immigration--that
> they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the reciprocity fee?

I had paid the fee and brought the certificate along anyway, but it
never left my laptop bag.  Neither United in the US nor the
immigration officer in EZE ever mentioned anything about it.


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> On Mar 31, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Ted Lemon  wrote:
>=20
> Are people having the expected experience when transiting =
immigration--that they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the =
reciprocity fee?   I'm getting mixed signals from the airline web site =
about this (they still have a link to pay, and the link to pay still =
says you should pay).   What are people's experiences so far?

I arrived this morning, had already paid and expensed the fee.

I handed them my passport, the paper and the customs form I was handed =
on the plane.

I received them all back and never had to show ID again. =20

I was asked where I was staying, they took my photo and right thumbprint =
and sent on my way.

The immigration line this morning was long but moved.  Expect about 20 =
minutes in queue.

- Jared


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Thanks for all the experiential data, everyone!
On Mar 31, 2016 12:49 PM, "Ted Lemon"  wrote:

> Are people having the expected experience when transiting
> immigration--that they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the
> reciprocity fee?   I'm getting mixed signals from the airline web site
> about this (they still have a link to pay, and the link to pay still says
> you should pay).   What are people's experiences so far?
>

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Thanks for all the experiential data, everyone!


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I arrived on Monday and they asked me literally nothing. The immigration =
agent took only my passport, said hello, waved me along when he handed =
my passport back, and that was literally all of the personal contact I =
had with any government agent on my way through the airport.

The line looked long, but it moved quickly. ~20m is about right.

C

> On Mar 31, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Jared Mauch  =
wrote:
>=20
>=20
>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Ted Lemon  wrote:
>>=20
>> Are people having the expected experience when transiting =
immigration--that they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the =
reciprocity fee?   I'm getting mixed signals from the airline web site =
about this (they still have a link to pay, and the link to pay still =
says you should pay).   What are people's experiences so far?
>=20
> I arrived this morning, had already paid and expensed the fee.
>=20
> I handed them my passport, the paper and the customs form I was handed =
on the plane.
>=20
> I received them all back and never had to show ID again. =20
>=20
> I was asked where I was staying, they took my photo and right =
thumbprint and sent on my way.
>=20
> The immigration line this morning was long but moved.  Expect about 20 =
minutes in queue.
>=20
> - Jared
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I arrived on Monday and they asked me literally nothing. The =
immigration agent took only my passport, said hello, waved me along when =
he handed my passport back, and that was literally all of the personal =
contact I had with any government agent on my way through the =
airport.

The line =
looked long, but it moved quickly. ~20m is about right.

C
On Mar 31, 2016, at 2:06 PM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:


On Mar 31, 2016, at =
12:49 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

Are people having the expected experience when transiting =
immigration--that they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the =
reciprocity fee?   I'm getting mixed signals from the airline =
web site about this (they still have a link to pay, and the link to pay =
still says you should pay).   What are people's experiences so =
far?

I arrived this morning, =
had already paid and expensed the fee.

I =
handed them my passport, the paper and the customs form I was handed on =
the plane.

I received them all back and =
never had to show ID again.  

I was =
asked where I was staying, they took my photo and right thumbprint and =
sent on my way.

The immigration line this =
morning was long but moved.  Expect about 20 minutes in queue.

- Jared

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On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:12:19AM -0700, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
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> Do they stamp your passport?

	US Passport, Yes.

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On 31/03/2016 14:12, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
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> Do they stamp your passport?
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Mine got stamped, with what appears to say "Turista 90 Dias".

I was only asked where I was staying, with no questions about the
purpose or duration of the trip.

Ray



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Ted,

On Mar 31, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Ted Lemon > wrote:

Are people having the expected experience when transiting immigration--that=
 they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the reciprocity fee?   I=
'm getting mixed signals from the airline web site about this (they still h=
ave a link to pay, and the link to pay still says you should pay).   What a=
re people's experiences so far?

Yes, as a US passport holder, I was not asked at all about the reciprocity =
fee when coming through Argentinian immigration this morning (I came earlie=
r to attend DNS-OARC today and tomorrow).  It was not even mentioned.

I would note that in the Houston airport as we were getting ready for the f=
light to B.A., the United staff was asking Canadian and Australian passport=
 holders to come to the desk to confirm they had paid the reciprocity fee. =
 Both of those countries are still subject to the reciprocity fee.

That was my experience,
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Ted,








On Mar 31, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:






Are people having the expected experience when =
transiting immigration--that they aren't being asked to show that they've p=
aid the reciprocity fee?   I'm getting mixed signals from the airline =
web site about this (they still have a link
 to pay, and the link to pay still says you should pay).   What are pe=
ople's experiences so far?










Yes, as a US passport holder, I was not asked at all about the recipro=
city fee when coming through Argentinian immigration this morning (I came e=
arlier to attend DNS-OARC today and tomorrow).  It was not even mentio=
ned.







I would note that in the Houston airport as we were getting ready for =
the flight to B.A., the United staff was asking Canadian and Australian pas=
sport holders to come to the desk to confirm they had paid the reciprocity =
fee.  Both of those countries are
 still subject to the reciprocity fee.







That was my experience,


Dan











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If you are on the Sheraton Retiro, there is almost aloways a long line
of black taxis outside. Just ask the hotel staff to wave you one. They
are really inexpensive and more convenient than taking the subte to the
Hilton.

On 3/31/16 1:46 PM, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:
>  Is there metro/subte  transportation from Sheraton to Hilton?
> I am seeing rain forecast all next week.
>
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> Is there metro/subte  transportation from Sheraton to Hilton?
>I am seeing rain forecast all next week.

The least bad option appears to be the 20A or 20B bus which leaves
from a stop on Ave. Madero behind the Sheraton and drops you at Ave
Macacha Guilmes, 450m from the Hilton.

Or you could get an umbrella and walk, which is about as fast as
waiting for the bus.

R's,
John


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In article  you write:
>
>Do they stamp your passport?

They've always stamped mine.

R's,
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last time I went to Argentina, two years ago, it is the counter of the 
airline that asked everyone to show their paid fee before you can board 
the plane going to Argentina. If you hadn’t paid, you would not board 
the plane. I’ve seen a few cases like that and people were rushing on 
their phone to get it done. But I suspect that it depends on the policy 
of the airline.

Marc.

On 31 Mar 2016, at 12:49, Ted Lemon wrote:

> Are people having the expected experience when transiting 
> immigration--that
> they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the reciprocity fee?
> I'm getting mixed signals from the airline web site about this (they 
> still
> have a link to pay, and the link to pay still says you should pay).   
> What
> are people's experiences so far?
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last time I went to Argentina, two years ago, it is the c=
ounter of the airline that asked everyone to show their paid fee before y=
ou can board the plane going to Argentina. If you hadn=E2=80=99t paid, yo=
u would not board the plane. I=E2=80=99ve seen a few cases like that and =
people were rushing on their phone to get it done. But I suspect that it =
depends on the policy of the airline.



Marc.



On 31 Mar 2016, at 12:49, Ted Lemon wrote:





Are people having the expected experience when transiting=
 immigration--that

they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the reciprocity fee?
I'm getting mixed signals from the airline web site about this (they stil=
l

have a link to pay, and the link to pay still says you should pay).   Wha=
t

are people's experiences so far?






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> On Mar 31, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Marc Blanchet  =
wrote:
>=20
> last time I went to Argentina, two years ago, it is the counter of the =
airline that asked everyone to show their paid fee before you can board =
the plane going to Argentina. If you hadn=E2=80=99t paid, you would not =
board the plane. I=E2=80=99ve seen a few cases like that and people were =
rushing on their phone to get it done. But I suspect that it depends on =
the policy of the airline.

There was some confusion upon check-in at my origin airport for a =
moment, they went =E2=80=9CDo you need a visa?=E2=80=9D. =20

me: not as of last week, i have the paperwork if you want to see it

agent: here=E2=80=99s your boarding pass, have a nice day.

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Even a piece of cardboard of the right size in the slot generally works.

Usually I remember to pull it out to conserve energy when I leave the room
but it's nice not having to go down to the desk for a new key when I forget.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Michael StJohns 
wrote:

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>
> On 3/30/2016 5:28 PM, David C Lawrence wrote:
>
>> There is a universal outlet both at the desk and in the bathroom. Also
>> the general room and bathroom lights only work if you leave your key in the
>> slot by the door. The desk outlets work regardless of whether the key is in
>> the slot.
>>
>
> Pretty much any plastic card in the slot will work if its like other
> systems I've seen.  I tend to bring a few blank cards (old room keys for
> example) and use those instead of my room key - the number of times I've
> left my key by mistake is not insignificant.
>
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Even a piece of cardboard of the right size in the slot ge=
nerally works.=C2=A0

Usually I remember to pull it out t=
o conserve energy when I leave the room but it's nice not having to go =
down to the desk for a new key when I forget.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Mi=
chael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com> wrote:




On 3/30/2016 5:28 PM, David C Lawrence wrote:



There is a universal outlet both at the desk and in the bathroom. Also the =
general room and bathroom lights only work if you leave your key in the slo=
t by the door. The desk outlets work regardless of whether the key is in th=
e slot.





Pretty much any plastic card in the slot will work if its like other system=
s I've seen.=C2=A0 I tend to bring a few blank cards (old room keys for=
 example) and use those instead of my room key - the number of times I'=
ve left my key by mistake is not insignificant.



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According to Google maps, bus 20A (every 15 minutes) gets you most of the
way. You would just have to walk East about 400 meters.

>From Holiday Inn Express the 93A or 93B line works with a  bit longer walk
East.

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>  Is there metro/subte  transportation from Sheraton to Hilton?
> I am seeing rain forecast all next week.
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According to Google maps, bus 20A (every 15 minutes) gets =
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From Holiday Inn Express the 93A or 93B line works with a =
=C2=A0bit longer walk East.

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I am seeing rain forecast all next week.



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On 30 Mar 2016, at 18:52, David C Lawrence wrote:

> Reasonable walking route at 8am and 5pm between the Hilton and the
> InterContinental?  I'd have thought yes but wow does the list succeed
> in making people wonder about the bogeymen on every other block.
>
> https://goo.gl/maps/mig5RCE8H1C2

I did that walk twice last night, 7PM and 11PM, and it was just fine. 
There was a nice band playing in the plaza on the way back.

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On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Daniel Harkins 
wrote:

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> On 3/31/16, 3:07 AM, "95attendees on behalf of B=C3=B6rje Ohlman" <
> 95attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of borje.ohlman@ericsson.com>
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> I just found this page,
> http://landingpadba.com/tickets-and-tours/soccer-san-lorenzo-home-game/
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> Does anyone know if it can be trusted?
> Did anyone check if Hilton can help with arrangements, and if so, what
> does it cost?
>
>
>   The Hilton got me 2 tickets to Boca Juniors match on Thursday April 7th=
,
> so yea they
> could probably help out. The prices were =E2=80=9Chigh seats=E2=80=9D 180=
0 pesos/person
> and =E2=80=9Clow seats=E2=80=9D
> were 2800 pesos/person. That includes round-trop transportation too. Kind
> of pricey but it=E2=80=99s an opportunity not to be missed.
>
>   Dan.
>

FWIW, those are definitively resale prices... In the official Boca Juniors
site they say that people who have season tickets for the National
Championship have time until Sunday for their seat to be reserved by
themselves: http://www.bocajuniors.com.ar/el-club/boca-bolivar-adicionales

Prices are for those who are already members of the club AND have season
tickets. "Palco abierto, torres, media y baja central" is what they
probably call "low seats" and "Platea alta central" is what they probably
call "high seats" so there's a stiff difference.

They don't publish non-members prices (until Monday, I guess), but, for
reference, The River Plate match for Copa Libertadores next Wednesday for
non members are $700 for a mid seat lateral (the most expensive) and $550
for high seat lateral (without seat numbre specific reservation).

The same locations for club members are $600/$450 (higher than for Boca
Juniors).

You might be able to register yourself and pay those prices for the River
Plate match at http://monumental.cariverplate.com.ar/TuLugar/Home/Cliente
however, the site expects you to have a local DNI and an address in
Argentina... I don't know what happens if you lie about that.

Tickets issued this way are only 1 per person, must be physically retrieved
from the stadium ticket office either tomorrow or on Saturday (another
person may do that for you if you send him/her the PDF reservation AND a
copy of the document).
Tickets and are nominated (they MAY want you to show your document with the
same name as the ticket).

--
Mariano Absatz - El Baby
www.clueless.com.ar

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On T=
hu, Mar 31, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Daniel Harkins <dharkins@arubanetw=
orks.com> wrote:























On 3/31/16, 3:07 AM, "95attendees on behalf of B=C3=B6rje Ohlman&=
quot; <95attendees-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of
borje.ohlman=
@ericsson.com> wrote:





















Does anyone know if it can be trusted?


Did anyone check if Hilton can help with arrangements, and if so, what=
 does it cost?














=C2=A0 The Hilton got me 2 tickets to Boca Juniors match on Thu=
rsday April 7th, so yea they=C2=A0


could probably help out. The prices were =E2=80=9Chigh seats=E2=80=9D =
1800 pesos/person and =E2=80=9Clow seats=E2=80=9D


were 2800 pesos/person. That includes round-trop transportation too. K=
ind of pricey but it=E2=80=99s an opportunity not to be missed.







=C2=A0 Dan.

FWIW, those ar=
e definitively resale prices... In the official Boca Juniors site they say =
that people who have season tickets for the National Championship have time=
 until Sunday for their seat to be reserved by themselves:=C2=A0http://www.=
bocajuniors.com.ar/el-club/boca-bolivar-adicionales

Prices are for those who are already members of the club AND have sea=
son tickets. "Palco abierto, torres, media y baja central" is wha=
t they probably call "low seats" and "Platea alta central&qu=
ot; is what they probably call "high seats" so there's a stif=
f difference.

They don't publish non-members p=
rices (until Monday, I guess), but, for reference, The River Plate match fo=
r Copa Libertadores next Wednesday for non members are $700 for a mid seat =
lateral (the most expensive) and $550 for high seat lateral (without seat n=
umbre specific reservation).

The same locations fo=
r club members are $600/$450 (higher than for Boca Juniors).

=

You might be able to register yourself and pay those prices for =
the River Plate match at=C2=A0http://monumental.cariverplate.com.ar/TuLugar/Hom=
e/Cliente however, the site expects you to have a local DNI and an addr=
ess in Argentina... I don't know what happens if you lie about that.=C2=
=A0

Tickets issued this way are only 1 per person,=
 must be physically retrieved from the stadium ticket office either tomorro=
w or on Saturday (another person may do that for you if you send him/her th=
e PDF reservation AND a copy of the document).
Tickets and are no=
minated (they MAY want you to show your document with the same name as the =
ticket).

--Mariano Absatz - El Baby
www.clueless.com.ar




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On 03/31/2016 01:17 PM, Ray Bellis wrote:
> On 31/03/2016 14:12, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>> 
>> Do they stamp your passport?
> 
> Mine got stamped, with what appears to say "Turista 90 Dias".
> 
> I was only asked where I was staying, with no questions about the 
> purpose or duration of the trip.

That was my UK passport-holder experience as well, though got asked
about duration.

Keith


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On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Keith Mitchell  wrote:

> On 03/31/2016 01:17 PM, Ray Bellis wrote:
> > On 31/03/2016 14:12, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
> >>
> >> Do they stamp your passport?
> >
> > Mine got stamped, with what appears to say "Turista 90 Dias".
> >
> > I was only asked where I was staying, with no questions about the
> > purpose or duration of the trip.
>
> That was my UK passport-holder experience as well, though got asked
> about duration.
>

UK passport holders do not and did not require reciprocity since we
(Argentinians) don't have to pay for a visa to enter the UK.

Australians and Canadians pay reciprocity since they do require a visa
which has to be payed by Argentine citizens, even when we do not ask for a
visa, we charge them an equivalent amount of money as the charge for a
visa. AFAIK Chile and Brasil have similar policies.

The same was true for US citizens up to last week's Obama's visit to
Argentina... even when the US did not remove the visa requirement, a
process to do so apparently started and Argentina, as part of that process,
stopped asking for the reciprocity fee.

If you re-read the embassy page:

http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-citizens.html

you'll see it is dated March 24th 2016 (last week).


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On T=
hu, Mar 31, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Keith Mitchell <keith@dns-oarc.net>=
 wrote:
On 03/31/2016 01:17 PM,=
 Ray Bellis wrote:

> On 31/03/2016 14:12, Ole Jacobsen wrote:

>>

>> Do they stamp your passport?

>

> Mine got stamped, with what appears to say "Turista 90 Dias"=
.

>

> I was only asked where I was staying, with no questions about the

> purpose or duration of the trip.



That was my UK passport-holder experience as well, though got asked<=
br>
about duration.

UK passport holders do =
not and did not require reciprocity since we (Argentinians) don't have =
to pay for a visa to enter the UK.

Australians and=
 Canadians pay reciprocity since they do require a visa which has to be pay=
ed by Argentine citizens, even when we do not ask for a visa, we charge the=
m an equivalent amount of money as the charge for a visa. AFAIK Chile and B=
rasil have similar policies.

The same was true for=
 US citizens up to last week's Obama's visit to Argentina... even w=
hen the US did not remove the visa requirement, a process to do so apparent=
ly started and Argentina, as part of that process, stopped asking for the r=
eciprocity fee.

If you re-read the embassy page:

=


you'll see it is dated March 24th 2016 (last week).=



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FWIW, one usually-reliable (and unrelated) mailing list I'm on
sent a note around yesterday or today indicating the reciprocity
fee was temporarily waived for US Nationals, "effective
immediately".  It said "Travelers holding a US passport can
travel for business or tourism for stays up to 90 days. Please
note that this temporary exemption may be lifted in the near
future and US nationals may once again have to pay the
reciprocity fee prior to entry to Argentina."  I don't know
about other countries -- indeed that is exactly everything I
know and it was secondhand information by the time it reached me.

    john


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 wrote:

> On 03/31/2016 01:17 PM, Ray Bellis wrote:
>> On 31/03/2016 14:12, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do they stamp your passport?
>> 
>> Mine got stamped, with what appears to say "Turista 90 Dias".
>> 
>> I was only asked where I was staying, with no questions about
>> the  purpose or duration of the trip.
> 
> That was my UK passport-holder experience as well, though got
> asked about duration.





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At 12:49 PM -0400 3/31/16, Ted Lemon wrote:

>  Are people having the expected experience when transiting 
> immigration--that they aren't being asked to show that they've paid 
> the reciprocity fee?   I'm getting mixed signals from the airline 
> web site about this (they still have a link to pay, and the link to 
> pay still says you should pay).   What are people's experiences so 
> far?

I was told by a VP at American Airlines that they are aware that the 
reciprocity fee is no longer needed for U.S. citizens travelling for 
personal or business reasons of stays up to 90 days, and that the 
check-in and gate agents no longer check for it, but that the 
information and link on the itinerary display page will take longer 
to get updated.

-- 
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All this talk about the fee being unnecessary keeps refreshing the =
regret felt by those who paid theirs early.

Not that I=92m bitter or anything.

=97Sandy
On Mar 31, 2016, at 4:08 PM, Randall Gellens  =
wrote:

> At 12:49 PM -0400 3/31/16, Ted Lemon wrote:
>=20
>> Are people having the expected experience when transiting =
immigration--that they aren't being asked to show that they've paid the =
reciprocity fee?   I'm getting mixed signals from the airline web site =
about this (they still have a link to pay, and the link to pay still =
says you should pay).   What are people's experiences so far?
>=20
> I was told by a VP at American Airlines that they are aware that the =
reciprocity fee is no longer needed for U.S. citizens travelling for =
personal or business reasons of stays up to 90 days, and that the =
check-in and gate agents no longer check for it, but that the =
information and link on the itinerary display page will take longer to =
get updated.
>=20
> --
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> All this talk about the fee being unnecessary keeps refreshing the
> regret felt by those who paid theirs early.

think of it as a donation to the argentine economy which we nortes have
so severely damaged in so many ways for so many years.

randy


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At 1:34 PM -0400 3/31/16, Marc Blanchet wrote:

>  last time I went to Argentina, two years ago, it is the counter of 
> the airline that asked everyone to show their paid fee before you 
> can board the plane going to Argentina. If you hadn't paid, you 
> would not board the plane. I've seen a few cases like that and 
> people were rushing on their phone to get it done. But I suspect 
> that it depends on the policy of the airline.

It is standard for airlines to check that passengers meet the entry 
requirements before boarding (sometimes before checking in for the 
first flight if connecting), because the airline does not want to be 
forced to fly you back when you are denied entry.


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At 1:43 PM -0400 3/31/16, Jared Mauch wrote:

>  There was some confusion upon check-in at my origin airport for a 
> moment, they went "Do you need a visa?". 
>
>  me: not as of last week, i have the paperwork if you want to see it
>
>  agent: here's your boarding pass, have a nice day.

There should never be any confusion, since airline agents have access 
to TIMATIC, which is up to date on entry requirements.  (By the way, 
Argentina dropped the requirement that U.S. citizens pay a 
reciprocity fee; U.S. citizens did not need a visa before and still 
don't.)

-- 
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http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-
citizens.html

==
In order to strengthen the relationship between Argentina and the United
States of America, the Argentine Government has resolved to suspend the
collection of the reciprocity fee from US passport holders who visit our
country for less than 90 days, for tourist or business purposes.

Buenos Aires, March 24 2016
==

:-)

Russ


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> reciprocity fee?
> 
> At 1:34 PM -0400 3/31/16, Marc Blanchet wrote:
> 
> >  last time I went to Argentina, two years ago, it is the counter of
> > the airline that asked everyone to show their paid fee before you can
> > board the plane going to Argentina. If you hadn't paid, you would not
> > board the plane. I've seen a few cases like that and people were
> > rushing on their phone to get it done. But I suspect that it depends
> > on the policy of the airline.
> 
> It is standard for airlines to check that passengers meet the entry
> requirements before boarding (sometimes before checking in for the first
> flight if connecting), because the airline does not want to be forced to
fly you
> back when you are denied entry.
> 
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Hi

The meeting main page ( https://www.ietf.org/meeting/95/index.html ) has =
a link for =E2=80=9Creciprocity fee=E2=80=9D ( =
https://reciprocidad.provincianet.com.ar ) that still has the old =
information that US citizens need to pay this tax.

Can someone either fix or remove this link?

Yoav


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I'm arriving on Saturday, 2 April, on AA 997 at 10:33 AM, and have 
booked a car to the Hilton, so if anyone needs a ride, let me know (I 
also filled out the arrivals coordination wiki, but it seems many 
don't know about it).

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Well. The reciprocity fee still applies to Canada and Australia so the link=
 should remain. But the main page info could be updated.=20


The provincianet site could take some time to be updated. Although they mig=
ht be rejecting the option to chose USA now. Not sure.=20



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Hi The meeting main page ( https://www.ietf.org/meeting/95/index.html ) has=
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Well. The reciprocity fee still applies to Canada and Australia so the link should remain. But the main page info could be updated. 


The provincianet site could take some time to be updated. Although they might be rejecting the option to chose USA now. Not sure. 


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Hi The meeting main page ( https://www.ietf.org/meeting/95/index.html ) has a link for “reciprocity fee” ( https://reciprocidad.provincianet.com.ar ) that still has the old information that US citizens need to pay this tax. Can someone either fix or remove this link? Yoav _______________________________________________ 95attendees mailing list 95attendees@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/95attendees 


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> the network is up

not in production for another day

in fact, we are doing failover testing now

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Hello folks,

We're currently planning to drive to the falls on the Argentina side 
from our hotel.  It seems that going to Brazil will cost us another $160 
per person for a visa, which means that I would only do that if it's 
really a lot better than the Argentina side.

Does anyone know how the two sides of the Falls compare?

Thanks in advance,
Charlie P.



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So, just as a datapoint ...

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Dave Plonka  wrote:

>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Hmm, it looks like Obama's visit with Macri had some results,
> at least for those of us procrastinators that haven't paid this yet:
>
>    Reciprocity fee for US citizens
>
>    As from March 24, 2016, and until further notice, payment of
>    the Reciprocity Fee will not be required from US passport holders.
>
>
> http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-citizens.html
>
> Dave
>

Greetings from DFW.

I happened to have a reciprocity fee receipt (because I paid it 20 minutes
before Obama landed in Argentina, apparently), but after I showed it to the
nice lady at AA check-in, I asked, and she had no idea that this is no
longer required (the AA check-in screen asks them to verify that you have
one).

So, I'm sure your mileage may vary, but if you don't have a reciprocity fee
receipt already and weren't planning to get one, there are likely helpful
actions you could take. Perhaps printing off the page above? Or at least
showing up at the airport early enough that you can run to a business
center if the carrier won't let you on a plane without paying the fee? Or
just showing up early enough to allow time for an extended conversation?

But do the right thing, whatever that is ...

Spencer

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So, just as a datapoint ...

=

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Dave Plonka <p=
lonka@akamai.com> wrote:



Hi folks,



Hmm, it looks like Obama's visit with Macri had some results,

at least for those of us procrastinators that haven't paid this yet:


=C2=A0 =C2=A0Reciprocity fee for US citizens



=C2=A0 =C2=A0As from March 24, 2016, and until further notice, payment of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the Reciprocity Fee will not be required from US passport hold=
ers.



=C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-=
us-citizens.html



Dave

Greetings from DFW.<=
/div>

I happened to have a reciprocity fee receipt (beca=
use I paid it 20 minutes before Obama landed in Argentina, apparently), but=
 after I showed it to the nice lady at AA check-in, I asked, and she had no=
 idea that this is no longer required (the AA check-in screen asks them to =
verify that you have one).

So, I'm sure your m=
ileage may vary, but if you don't have a reciprocity fee receipt alread=
y and weren't planning to get one, there are likely helpful actions you=
 could take. Perhaps printing off the page above? Or at least showing up at=
 the airport early enough that you can run to a business center if the carr=
ier won't let you on a plane without paying the fee? Or just showing up=
 early enough to allow time for an extended conversation?

But do the right thing, whatever that is ...

Spencer=C2=A0



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On Thu, 31 Mar 2016, Charlie Perkins wrote:

> We're currently planning to drive to the falls on the Argentina side from our 
> hotel.  It seems that going to Brazil will cost us another $160 per person 
> for a visa, which means that I would only do that if it's really a lot better 
> than the Argentina side.
>
> Does anyone know how the two sides of the Falls compare?

Argentina's side is far better. The only cool thing (apparently) about
the brazilian side is that you get closer to the Gargantula (sp?) falls,
but the argentina side has much much walk space and more other falls to
see too.

Paul


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On 31 Mar 2016, at 21:47, Charlie Perkins wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> We're currently planning to drive to the falls on the Argentina side 
> from our hotel.  It seems that going to Brazil will cost us another 
> $160 per person for a visa, which means that I would only do that if 
> it's really a lot better than the Argentina side.
>
> Does anyone know how the two sides of the Falls compare?

haven’t done the Brazilian side but did the Argentinian side. Was 
pretty impressive. worth! One can’t be disappointed!

my 2 cents.

Marc.

>
> Thanks in advance,
> Charlie P.
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On 31 Mar 2016, at 21:47, Charlie Perkins wrote:





Hello folks,



We're currently planning to drive to the falls on the Arg=
entina side from our hotel.  It seems that going to Brazil will cost us a=
nother $160 per person for a visa, which means that I would only do that =
if it's really a lot better than the Argentina side.



Does anyone know how the two sides of the Falls compare?<=
/p>




haven=E2=80=99t done the Brazilian side but did the Argen=
tinian side. Was pretty impressive. worth! One can=E2=80=99t be disappoin=
ted!



my 2 cents.



Marc.





Thanks in advance,

Charlie P.






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At the United gate in Dallas they announced the Reciprocity form was only re=
quired for people traveling with AU and NZ passports. =20

Bob

> On Mar 31, 2016, at 20:48, Spencer Dawkins at IETF  wrote:
>=20
> So, just as a datapoint ...
>=20
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Dave Plonka  wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> Hi folks,
>>=20
>> Hmm, it looks like Obama's visit with Macri had some results,
>> at least for those of us procrastinators that haven't paid this yet:
>>=20
>>    Reciprocity fee for US citizens
>>=20
>>    As from March 24, 2016, and until further notice, payment of
>>    the Reciprocity Fee will not be required from US passport holders.
>>=20
>>    http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-f=
or-us-citizens.html
>>=20
>> Dave
>=20
> Greetings from DFW.
>=20
> I happened to have a reciprocity fee receipt (because I paid it 20 minutes=
 before Obama landed in Argentina, apparently), but after I showed it to the=
 nice lady at AA check-in, I asked, and she had no idea that this is no long=
er required (the AA check-in screen asks them to verify that you have one).
>=20
> So, I'm sure your mileage may vary, but if you don't have a reciprocity fe=
e receipt already and weren't planning to get one, there are likely helpful a=
ctions you could take. Perhaps printing off the page above? Or at least show=
ing up at the airport early enough that you can run to a business center if t=
he carrier won't let you on a plane without paying the fee? Or just showing u=
p early enough to allow time for an extended conversation?
>=20
> But do the right thing, whatever that is ...
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At the United gate in Dalla=
s they announced the Reciprocity form was only required for people traveling=
 with AU and NZ passports.  

Bob
On Mar 31, 2016, at 20:48, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
So, just as a dat=
apoint ...

On Wed, M=
ar 23, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Dave Plonka <plonka@akamai.com> wrote:=





Hi folks,



Hmm, it looks like Obama's visit with Macri had some results,

at least for those of us procrastinators that haven't paid this yet:



   Reciprocity fee for US citizens



   As from March 24, 2016, and until further notice, payment of
   the Reciprocity Fee will not be required from US passport holde=
rs.



   =
http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-=
citizens.html



Dave

Greetings from DFW.

I happened to have a reciprocity fee receipt (becaus=
e I paid it 20 minutes before Obama landed in Argentina, apparently), but af=
ter I showed it to the nice lady at AA check-in, I asked, and she had no ide=
a that this is no longer required (the AA check-in screen asks them to verif=
y that you have one).

So, I'm sure your mileage may=
 vary, but if you don't have a reciprocity fee receipt already and weren't p=
lanning to get one, there are likely helpful actions you could take. Perhaps=
 printing off the page above? Or at least showing up at the airport early en=
ough that you can run to a business center if the carrier won't let you on a=
 plane without paying the fee? Or just showing up early enough to allow time=
 for an extended conversation?

But do the right thi=
ng, whatever that is ...

Spencer 
<=
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Hi, Bob,

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Bob Hinden  wrote:

> At the United gate in Dallas they announced the Reciprocity form was only
> required for people traveling with AU and NZ passports.
>

Right. I was at AA, and when the check-in attendant asked for the receipt,
I handed her one, and she clicked the "verified" box, before I asked her if
they had heard we don't need it any more. She had not, but since I had one,
I don't know what would have happened next if I hadn't had one.

My flight was delayed an hour anyway, so maybe I would have just burned
that hour reasoning with them? :D

For extra credit - almost all international AA flights are out of Terminal
D now, but I noticed a few trips back that if I check in at Terminal A next
to the DART Train station, I can clear security and use Skylink inside
security to go to any other terminal at the airport quickly, instead of
standing outside the terminal waiting for the crowded and infrequent buses
between terminals. So I was checking in at a terminal that may not see
anyone else checking in for Argentina this week ... and maybe everyone at
Terminal D does know.

Spencer



> Bob
>
> On Mar 31, 2016, at 20:48, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <
> spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So, just as a datapoint ...
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Dave Plonka  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Hmm, it looks like Obama's visit with Macri had some results,
>> at least for those of us procrastinators that haven't paid this yet:
>>
>>    Reciprocity fee for US citizens
>>
>>    As from March 24, 2016, and until further notice, payment of
>>    the Reciprocity Fee will not be required from US passport holders.
>>
>>
>> http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-us-citizens.html
>>
>> Dave
>>
>
> Greetings from DFW.
>
> I happened to have a reciprocity fee receipt (because I paid it 20 minutes
> before Obama landed in Argentina, apparently), but after I showed it to the
> nice lady at AA check-in, I asked, and she had no idea that this is no
> longer required (the AA check-in screen asks them to verify that you have
> one).
>
> So, I'm sure your mileage may vary, but if you don't have a reciprocity
> fee receipt already and weren't planning to get one, there are likely
> helpful actions you could take. Perhaps printing off the page above? Or at
> least showing up at the airport early enough that you can run to a business
> center if the carrier won't let you on a plane without paying the fee? Or
> just showing up early enough to allow time for an extended conversation?
>
> But do the right thing, whatever that is ...
>
> Spencer
>
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Hi, Bob,

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Bob Hinden <<=
a href=3D"mailto:bob.hinden@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">bob.hinden@gmail.c=
om> wrote:
At the United gate in Dallas they announced the Reciproci=
ty form was only required for people traveling with AU and NZ passports. =
=C2=A0

Right. I was at AA, and =
when the check-in attendant asked for the receipt, I handed her one, and sh=
e clicked the "verified" box, before I asked her if they had hear=
d we don't need it any more. She had not, but since I had one, I don=
9;t know what would have happened next if I hadn't had one.
<=
br>
My flight was delayed an hour anyway, so maybe I would have j=
ust burned that hour reasoning with them? :D

For e=
xtra credit - almost all international AA flights are out of Terminal D now=
, but I noticed a few trips back that if I check in at Terminal A next to t=
he DART Train station, I can clear security and use Skylink inside security=
 to go to any other terminal at the airport quickly, instead of standing ou=
tside the terminal waiting for the crowded and infrequent buses between ter=
minals. So I was checking in at a terminal that may not see anyone else che=
cking in for Argentina this week ... and maybe everyone at Terminal D does =
know.

Spencer

=C2=A0
Bob

On Mar 3=
1, 2016, at 20:48, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>=
; wrote:

So, j=
ust as a datapoint ...

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Dave Plonka <plonka@akamai.com&g=
t; wrote:




Hi folks,



Hmm, it looks like Obama's visit with Macri had some results,

at least for those of us procrastinators that haven't paid this yet:


=C2=A0 =C2=A0Reciprocity fee for US citizens



=C2=A0 =C2=A0As from March 24, 2016, and until further notice, payment of
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the Reciprocity Fee will not be required from US passport hold=
ers.



=C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.embassyofargentina.us/en/consular-section/reciprocity-fee-for-=
us-citizens.html



Dave

Greetings from DFW.<=
/div>

I happened to have a reciprocity fee receipt (beca=
use I paid it 20 minutes before Obama landed in Argentina, apparently), but=
 after I showed it to the nice lady at AA check-in, I asked, and she had no=
 idea that this is no longer required (the AA check-in screen asks them to =
verify that you have one).

So, I'm sure your m=
ileage may vary, but if you don't have a reciprocity fee receipt alread=
y and weren't planning to get one, there are likely helpful actions you=
 could take. Perhaps printing off the page above? Or at least showing up at=
 the airport early enough that you can run to a business center if the carr=
ier won't let you on a plane without paying the fee? Or just showing up=
 early enough to allow time for an extended conversation?

But do the right thing, whatever that is ...

Spencer=C2=A0



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>At the United gate in Dallas they announced the Reciprocity form was only required for people traveling with AU and NZ passports.  

NZ?  Well, one out of two isn't bad for United.

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In article <56FDD33C.8080801@earthlink.net> you write:
>Hello folks,
>
>We're currently planning to drive to the falls on the Argentina side 
>from our hotel.  It seems that going to Brazil will cost us another $160 
>per person for a visa, which means that I would only do that if it's 
>really a lot better than the Argentina side.

I would be surprised if you could get a Brazilian visa on the spot.
Usually you have to do it at your home embassy or consulate and it
takes a couple of weeks.  So it's just as well the Argentine side
is better.

Part of the falls are in Paraguay, which does not need a visa.
Any point in going there?

R's,
John


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Argentina side is better and it takes you 2 days to complete all the paths.

At the Brazilian side you would be able to see some monkeys and a different
view from the Argentinian side. I would not waste my time going there.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:33 PM,  wrote:

> In article <56FDD33C.8080801@earthlink.net> you write:
> >Hello folks,
> >
> >We're currently planning to drive to the falls on the Argentina side
> >from our hotel.  It seems that going to Brazil will cost us another $160
> >per person for a visa, which means that I would only do that if it's
> >really a lot better than the Argentina side.
>
> I would be surprised if you could get a Brazilian visa on the spot.
> Usually you have to do it at your home embassy or consulate and it
> takes a couple of weeks.  So it's just as well the Argentine side
> is better.
>
> Part of the falls are in Paraguay, which does not need a visa.
> Any point in going there?
>
> R's,
> John
>
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Argentina side is better and it takes you 2 days to c=
omplete all the paths.

At the Brazilian side you w=
ould be able to see some monkeys and a different view from the Argentinian =
side. I would not waste my time going there.

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:33 PM,  <=
span dir=3D"ltr"><ietf@johnlevine.com> wrote:
In article <56FDD3=
3C.8080801@earthlink.net> you write:

>Hello folks,

>

>We're currently planning to drive to the falls on the Argentina sid=
e

>from our hotel.=C2=A0 It seems that going to Brazil will cost us anothe=
r $160

>per person for a visa, which means that I would only do that if it'=
s

>really a lot better than the Argentina side.



I would be surprised if you could get a Brazilian visa on the spot.

Usually you have to do it at your home embassy or consulate and it

takes a couple of weeks.=C2=A0 So it's just as well the Argentine side<=
br>
is better.



Part of the falls are in Paraguay, which does not need a visa.

Any point in going there?



R's,

John



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At 8:48 PM -0500 3/31/16, Spencer Dawkins at IETF wrote:

>
>  Greetings from DFW.
>
>  I happened to have a reciprocity fee receipt (because I paid it 20 
> minutes before Obama landed in Argentina, apparently), but after I 
> showed it to the nice lady at AA check-in, I asked, and she had no 
> idea that this is no longer required (the AA check-in screen asks 
> them to verify that you have one).
>
>  So, I'm sure your mileage may vary, but if you don't have a 
> reciprocity fee receipt already and weren't planning to get one, 
> there are likely helpful actions you could take. Perhaps printing 
> off the page above? Or at least showing up at the airport early 
> enough that you can run to a business center if the carrier won't 
> let you on a plane without paying the fee? Or just showing up early 
> enough to allow time for an extended conversation?
>
>  But do the right thing, whatever that is ...

If an airline agent asks for a receipt, tell them it isn't required 
and suggest they check TIMATIC, which removed the requirement last 
week.

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The Iguazu Falls are not in Paraguay, but tours that include the =
Brazilian
side frequently stop at the Itaipu Dam, which is nearby and situated on =
both
the Brazilian and Paraguayan sides of the Parana River.  Paraguay does
require a visa of US citizens and it costs the good old USD 160.  Ciudad =
del
Este, Paraguay is apparently a popular local shopping destination, but I
doubt that's worth doing for world travelers.

		-Peter

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In article <56FDD33C.8080801@earthlink.net> you write:
>Hello folks,
>
>We're currently planning to drive to the falls on the Argentina side=20
>from our hotel.  It seems that going to Brazil will cost us another=20
>$160 per person for a visa, which means that I would only do that if=20
>it's really a lot better than the Argentina side.

I would be surprised if you could get a Brazilian visa on the spot.
Usually you have to do it at your home embassy or consulate and it takes =
a
couple of weeks.  So it's just as well the Argentine side is better.

Part of the falls are in Paraguay, which does not need a visa.
Any point in going there?

R's,
John

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Subject: Re: [95attendees] Reciprocity Fee not required from US passport holders, March 24, 2016
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> On Mar 31, 2016, at 8:48 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF  wrote:
>=20
> Greetings from DFW.
>=20
> I happened to have a reciprocity fee receipt (because I paid it 20 minutes=
 before Obama landed in Argentina, apparently), but after I showed it to the=
 nice lady at AA check-in, I asked, and she had no idea that this is no long=
er required (the AA check-in screen asks them to verify that you have one).
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> So, I'm sure your mileage may vary, but if you don't have a reciprocity fe=
e receipt already and weren't planning to get one, there are likely helpful a=
ctions you could take. Perhaps printing off the page above? Or at least show=
ing up at the airport early enough that you can run to a business center if t=
he carrier won't let you on a plane without paying the fee? Or just showing u=
p early enough to allow time for an extended conversation?

I gather the AA agents at the counter in DFW terminal D knew about the chang=
e, but the roving agents at the kiosks were inconsistent. Possibly because t=
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