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I received only two confirmations of participation at the AAA-Doctors
lunch in Hiroshima. I suggest that we skip it this time. We can plan for
a virtual meeting (conference call) in the weeks after Hiroshima. Of
course folks who are in Hiroshima and wish to talk with me about
AAA-related issues are welcome to approach me at any time during the
meeting.

Regards,

Dan

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Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 11/19 IESG telechat.
Please send me your questions, comments and concerns before 11/18 COB.=20

Thanks and Regards,

Dan
=20

2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-syslog-sign-28.txt
    Signed syslog Messages (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 8=20
    Token: Pasi Eronen
  o draft-ietf-mboned-rfc3171bis-07.txt
    IANA Guidelines for IPv4 Multicast Address Assignments (BCP) - 2 of
8

    Token: Ron Bonica
  o draft-ietf-6man-overlap-fragment-03.txt
    Handling of overlapping IPv6 fragments (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 8=20
    Note: Brian Haberman (brian@innovationslab.net) is the document
shepherd.=20
    Token: Jari Arkko
  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-l3vpn-03.txt
    Support for RSVP in Layer 3 VPNs (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 8=20
    Token: Magnus Westerlund
  o draft-ietf-pkix-authorityclearanceconstraints-03.txt
    Clearance Attribute and Authority Clearance Constraints Certificate=20
    Extension (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 8=20
    Token: Tim Polk
  o draft-ietf-dna-simple-11.txt
    Simple procedures for Detecting Network Attachment in IPv6 (Proposed

    Standard) - 6 of 8=20
    Note: (no document shepherd)=20
    Token: Jari Arkko
  o draft-ietf-mmusic-connectivity-precon-06.txt
    Connectivity Preconditions for Session Description Protocol Media
Streams=20
    (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 8=20
    Note: Please note sec-dir review comments were addressed in RFC Ed
Note..=20
    Document Shepherd: Jean-Francois Mule (jf.mule@cablelabs.com)=20
    Token: Cullen Jennings
  o draft-ietf-forces-sctptml-06.txt
    SCTP based TML (Transport Mapping Layer) for ForCES protocol
(Proposed
=20
    Standard) - 8 of 8=20
    Note: The document shepherd has been changed to Joel Halpern=20
    (jmh@joelhalpern.com).=20
    Token: Ross Callon

2.1.2 Returning Item
  o draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6-09.txt
    Fast Handovers for Proxy Mobile IPv6 (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2=20
    Note: Vijay Devarapalli (vijay@wichorus.com) is the document
shepherd.
=20
    Token: Jari Arkko
  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-bgp-08.txt
    BGP Encodings and Procedures for Multicast in MPLS/BGP IP VPNs
(Proposed=20
    Standard) - 2 of 2=20
    Token: Ross Callon


2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
NONE
2.2.2 Returning Item
NONE

3. Document Actions

3.1 WG Submissions
	Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a
reasonable
	contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it
covers? If
	not, what changes would make it so?"

3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-graceful-shutdown-12.txt
    Graceful Shutdown in MPLS and Generalized MPLS Traffic Engineering
Networks=20
    (Informational) - 1 of 3=20
    Note: Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net) is the document shepherd.=20
    Token: Adrian Farrel
  o draft-ietf-bmwg-ipsec-term-12.txt
    Terminology for Benchmarking IPsec Devices (Informational) - 2 of 3=20
    Note: Al Morton (acmorton@att.com) is the document shepherd.=20
    Token: Ron Bonica
  o draft-ietf-bmwg-ipsec-meth-05.txt
    Methodology for Benchmarking IPsec Devices (Informational) - 3 of 3=20
    Note: Al Morton (acmorton@att.com) is the document shepherd.=20
    Token: Ron Bonica

3.1.2 Returning Item
NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
	Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a
reasonable
	contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it
covers? If
	not, what changes would make it so?"

3.2.1 New Item
  o draft-turner-deviceowner-attribute-02.txt
    Device Owner Attribute (Informational) - 1 of 4=20
    Token: Tim Polk
  o draft-turner-clearancesponsor-attribute-02.txt
    Clearance Sponsor Attribute (Informational) - 2 of 4=20
    Token: Tim Polk
  o draft-carpenter-renum-needs-work-04.txt
    Renumbering still needs work (Informational) - 3 of 4=20
    Token: Dan Romascanu
  o draft-melnikov-sasl-scram-ldap-04.txt
    LDAP schema for storing SCRAM secrets (Informational) - 4 of 4=20
    Token: Pasi Eronen

3.2.2 Returning Item
NONE
3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
	The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not
	found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The
	IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG
	<X>, but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks
	that publication is harmful to work in WG <X> and recommends
	not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this
	document violates the IETF procedures for <X> and should
	therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG
	approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an
	IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should
	therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG
approval.

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	Note portion of the write-up. The Area Director ballot positions
	indicate consensus with the response proposed by the
	document shepherd.

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	be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the
document.


3.3.1 New Item
NONE
3.3.2 Returning Item
  o draft-levy-sip-diversion-10.txt
    Diversion Indication in SIP (Historic) - 1 of 1=20
    Token: Robert Sparks

3.3.3 For Action
  o draft-nsri-aria-02.txt
    A Description of the ARIA Encryption Algorithm (Informational) - 1
of
1=20
    Token: Russ Housley

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o HTTP State Management Mechanism (http-state) - 1 of 1
    Token: Lisa Dusseault
4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Internet Area Working Group (intareawg) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko
4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    NONE
4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Handover Keying (hokey) - 1 of 1
    Token: Tim Polk



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Please find below the preliminary agenda of the 12/3 IESG telechat.
Please send me your questions, comments and concerns about the documents
and charters brought for approval before 1`2/2 COB.=20

Thanks and Regards,

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2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-sasl-gs2-18.txt
    Using GSS-API Mechanisms in SASL: The GS2 Mechanism Family (Proposed

    Standard) - 1 of 8=20
    Note: Alexey Melnikov (alexey.melnikov@isode.com) is the document
shepherd=20
    Token: Pasi Eronen
  o draft-ietf-ipfix-mib-08.txt
    Definitions of Managed Objects for IP Flow Information Export
(Proposed=20
    Standard) - 2 of 8=20
    Token: Dan Romascanu
  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-l3vpn-05.txt
    Support for RSVP in Layer 3 VPNs (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 8=20
    Token: Magnus Westerlund
  o draft-ietf-pim-sm-linklocal-09.txt
    Authentication and Confidentiality in PIM-SM Link-local Messages
(Proposed=20
    Standard) - 4 of 8=20
    Note: Document shepherd is Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com>=20
    Token: Adrian Farrel
  o draft-ietf-ospf-af-alt-09.txt
    Support of address families in OSPFv3 (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 8=20
    Token: Ross Callon
  o draft-ietf-ospf-te-node-addr-06.txt
    Advertising a Router's Local Addresses in OSPF TE Extensions
(Proposed
=20
    Standard) - 6 of 8=20
    Note: Acee Lindem (acee@redback.com) is the document shepherd.=20
    Token: Ross Callon
  o draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-10.txt
    Label Switched Path (LSP) Dynamic Provisioning Performance Metrics
in

    Generalized MPLS Networks (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 8=20
    Note: Lou Berger (lberger@labn.net) is the document shepherd.=20
    Token: Adrian Farrel
  o draft-ietf-16ng-ipv4-over-802-dot-16-ipcs-06.txt
    Transmission of IPv4 packets over IEEE 802.16's IP Convergence
Sublayer=20
    (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 8=20
    Note: Gabriel Montenegro (g_e_montenegro@yahoo.com) is the document=20
    shepherd.=20
    Token: Ralph Droms

2.1.2 Returning Item
NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
  o draft-dusseault-http-patch-16.txt
    PATCH Method for HTTP (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 4=20
    Note: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> agreed to be the document

    shepherd..=20
    Token: Alexey Melnikov
  o draft-klensin-ftp-registry-02.txt
    FTP Extension Registry (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 4=20
    Note: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> is the document=20
    shepherd..=20
    Token: Alexey Melnikov
  o draft-nottingham-site-meta-04.txt
    Defining Well-Known URIs (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 4=20
    Token: Lisa Dusseault
  o draft-melnikov-imap-keywords-07.txt
    IMAP4 Keyword Registry (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 4=20
    Note: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> is the document
shepherd.=20
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

2.2.2 Returning Item
NONE

3. Document Actions

3.1 WG Submissions
	Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a
reasonable
	contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it
covers? If
	not, what changes would make it so?"

3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-hip-native-api-09.txt
    Basic Socket Interface Extensions for Host Identity Protocol (HIP)=20
    (Experimental) - 1 of 1=20
    Note: Gonzalo Camarillo (Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com) is the
document=20
    shepherd.=20
    Token: Ralph Droms

3.1.2 Returning Item
  o draft-ietf-csi-sndp-prob-03.txt
    Securing Neighbor Discovery Proxy Problem Statement (Informational)
-
1 of=20
    1=20
    Note: The document shepherd is Marcelo Bagnulo (marcelo@it.uc3m.es)=20
    Token: Ralph Droms


3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
	Reviews should focus on these questions: "Is this document a
reasonable
	contribution to the area of Internet engineering which it
covers? If
	not, what changes would make it so?"

3.2.1 New Item
  o draft-combes-ipdvb-mib-rcs-08.txt
    The SatLabs Group DVB-RCS MIB (Informational) - 1 of 3=20
    Note: Document Shepherd is Gorry Fairhurst
<gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk>=20
    Token: Jari Arkko
  o draft-reschke-rfc2731bis-04.txt
    RFC 2731 ("Encoding Dublin Core Metadata in HTML") is Obsolete=20
    (Informational) - 2 of 3=20
    Note: Bernard Desruisseaux <bernard.desruisseaux@oracle.com> is
the=20
    document shepherd.. RFC Editor seems to be fine with the idea of
obsoleting=20
    an RFC submitted directly to RFC Editor (e.g. RFC 2731) with an AD=20
    sponsored document.=20
    Token: Alexey Melnikov
  o draft-hammer-oauth-07.txt
    The OAuth Core 1.0 Protocol (Informational) - 3 of 3=20
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

3.2.2 Returning Item
NONE
3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
	The IESG will use RFC 3932 responses: 1) The IESG has not
	found any conflict between this document and IETF work; 2) The
	IESG thinks that this work is related to IETF work done in WG
	<X>, but this does not prevent publishing; 3) The IESG thinks
	that publication is harmful to work in WG <X> and recommends
	not publishing at this time; 4) The IESG thinks that this
	document violates the IETF procedures for <X> and should
	therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG
	approval; 5) The IESG thinks that this document extends an
	IETF protocol in a way that requires IETF review and should
	therefore not be published without IETF review and IESG
approval.

	The document shepherd must propose one of these responses in
	the Data Tracker note and supply complete text in the IESG
	Note portion of the write-up. The Area Director ballot positions
	indicate consensus with the response proposed by the
	document shepherd.

	Other matters may be recorded in comments, and the comments will
	be passed on to the RFC Editor as community review of the
document.


3.3.1 New Item
NONE
3.3.2 Returning Item
  o draft-wu-softwire-4over6-03.txt
    4over6 Transit Solution using IP Encapsulation and MP-BGP Extensions

    (Experimental) - 1 of 1=20
    Token: Ralph Droms


4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    NONE
4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o HTTP State Management Mechanism (httpstate) - 1 of 1
    Token: Lisa Dusseault
4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    NONE
4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE




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Subject: WG Review: HTTP State Management Mechanism (httpstate)=20

A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Applications Area.
The IESG has not made any determination as yet.  The following draft
charter was submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only.
Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list (iesg@ietf.org) by
Tuesday, December 1, 2009.

HTTP State Management Mechanism (httpstate)
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Current Status: Proposed Working Group
Last modified: 2009-11-11

Chair(s):
  TBD

Applications Area Director(s):
  Lisa Dusseault
  Alexey Melnikov=20

Applications Area Advisor:
  Lisa Dusseault=20

Mailing Lists:=20
  General Discussion: http-state@ietf.org
  To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/http-state
  Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/http-
state/current/maillist.html
  Alternative Archive: http://groups.google.com/group/http-state =20

Description of Working Group: =20

The HTTP State Management Mechanism (aka Cookies) was originally created
by Netscape Communications in their informal Netscape cookie
specification ("cookie_spec.html"), from which formal specifications RFC
2109 and RFC 2965 evolved.  The formal specifications, however, were
never fully implemented in practice; RFC 2109, in addition to
cookie_spec.html, more closely resemble real-world implementations than
RFC 2965, even though RFC 2965 officially obsoletes the former.=20
Compounding the problem are undocumented features (such as HTTPOnly),
and varying behaviors among real-world implementations. =20

The working group will create a new RFC that obsoletes RFC 2109 and
specifies Cookies as they are actually used in existing implementations
and deployments.  Where differences exist among the most commonly used
implementations, the working group will document the variations.  Where
consensus exists among the most commonly used implementations, the
working group will specify the consensus behavior. =20

The working group must not introduce any new syntax or new semantics not
already in common use. =20

The working group's specific deliverables are:=20

* A standards-track document that is suitable to supersede RFC 2109
(likely based on draft-abarth-cookie)
* An informational document cataloguing the differences between major
implementations  In doing so, the working group should consider: =20
* cookie_spec.html - Netscape Cookie Specification
http://web.archive.org/web/20070805052634/http://wp.netscape.com/newsre
f/std/cookie_spec.html=20
* RFC 2109 - HTTP State Management Mechanism (Obsoleted by RFC 2965)   =20
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2109=20
* RFC 2964 - Use of HTTP State Management   =20
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2964=20
* RFC 2965 - HTTP State Management Mechanism (Obsoletes RFC 2109)   =20
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2965=20
* I-D - HTTP State Management Mechanism v2   =20
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pettersen-cookie-v2=20
* I-D - Cookie-based HTTP Authentication   =20
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-broyer-http-cookie-auth=20
* Widely Implemented - HTTPOnly   =20
http://www.owasp.org/index.php/HTTPOnly
* Browser Security Handbook - Cookies
http://code.google.com/p/browsersec/wiki/Part2#Same-
origin_policy_for_cookies=20
* HTTP Cookies: Standards, Privacy, and Politics by David M. Kristol   =20
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/cs/pdf/0105/0105018v1.pdf =20

Goals and Milestones:=20
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Jan 2010 - Feature-complete Internet-Draft of Cookie specification Mar
2010 - Feature-complete test suite of Cookie specification May 2010 -
First fully conforming implementation in a major browser Jul 2010 - Last
Call for Cookie specification Sep 2010 - Second fully conforming
implementation in a major browser Nov 2010 - Submit Cookie specification
to IESG for consideration as=20
           a Draft Standard
Nov 2010 - Submit deviation description to IESG for consideration as=20
           Informational
