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Dear all,

Please find below the agenda of the January 10th  IESG telechat.
Please send your questions, comments, and concerns before January 9th COB.
Specifically for the OPS people in these mailer, I would like to draw 
your attention to the I2RS charter. See 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-i2rs/

Thanks and Regards, Benoit

==============================================


INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Summarized Agenda for the 2013-01-10 IESG Teleconference

This agenda was generated at 2013-01-07 15:22:43 PST
Up-to-date web version of this agenda can be found at:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/agenda/
                                                                                 

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items

   o draft-ietf-bliss-call-completion-18
     Call Completion for Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed
     Standard)
     Note: Shida Schubert (shida@ntt-at.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Robert Sparks

   o draft-ietf-appsawg-json-patch-09
     JSON Patch (Proposed Standard)
     Token: Barry Leiba

   o draft-ietf-appsawg-json-pointer-08
     JavaScript Object Notation (JSON) Pointer (Proposed Standard)
     Token: Barry Leiba

   o draft-ietf-v6ops-464xlat-08
     464XLAT: Combination of Stateful and Stateless Translation (Best
     Current Practice)
     Note: Fred Baker (fred@cisco.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Ronald Bonica

   o draft-ietf-mboned-auto-multicast-14
     Automatic Multicast Tunneling (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Lenny Giuliano (lenny@juniper.net) is the Document Shepherd.
     Token: Ronald Bonica

   o draft-ietf-sipcore-priority-00
     IANA Registry for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) "Priority"
     Header Field (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Paul Kyzivat (pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Robert Sparks

2.1.2 Returning Items

   o draft-ietf-dhc-relay-id-suboption-11
     The DHCPv4 Relay Agent Identifier Suboption (Proposed Standard)
     Note: Ted Lemon (ted.lemon@nominum.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Ralph Droms

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items

   o draft-salgueiro-vcarddav-kind-device-06
     vCard KIND:device (Proposed Standard)
     Token: Pete Resnick

   o draft-daboo-ical-vcard-parameter-encoding-02
     Parameter Value Encoding in iCalendar and vCard (Proposed Standard)
     Token: Barry Leiba

   o draft-bonica-special-purpose-05
     Special-Purpose IP Address Registries (Best Current Practice)
     Note: The document shepherd is Joel Halpern,&nbsp; .
     Token: Ralph Droms

2.2.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items

   o draft-ietf-karp-routing-tcp-analysis-06
     Analysis of BGP, LDP, PCEP and MSDP Issues According to KARP Design
     Guide (Informational)
     Note: Joel Halpern (jmh@joelhalpern.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Stewart Bryant

   o draft-ietf-v6ops-icp-guidance-04
     IPv6 Guidance for Internet Content and Application Service Providers
     (Informational)
     Note: Joel Jaeggli (joelja@bogus.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Ronald Bonica

   o draft-ietf-6renum-enterprise-05
     IPv6 Enterprise Network Renumbering Scenarios, Considerations and
     Methods (Informational)
     Note: Lee Howard (lee.howard@twcable.com) is the document shepherd.
     Token: Ronald Bonica

   o draft-ietf-trill-oam-req-04
     Requirements for Operations, Administration and Maintenance (OAM) in
     TRILL (Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links) (Informational)
     Note: The Document Shepherd is Donald Eastlake (d3e3e3@gmail.com).
     Token: Ralph Droms

3.1.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items

   NONE

3.2.2 Returning Items

   NONE

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items

   o conflict-review-wilde-describes-link-00
     IETF conflict review for draft-wilde-describes-link
       draft-wilde-describes-link-02
       The 'describes' Link Relation Type (ISE: Informational)
     Token: Barry Leiba

3.3.2 Returning Items

   NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

   o Interface to the Routing System (i2rs)

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

   NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review

   o IP Security Maintenance and Extensions (ipsecme)

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

   NONE



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Dear all,

While asking the expert review for draft-ietf-dime-erp-16, IANA asked 
Dan Romascanu.
Indeed, Dan is listed as the expert at 
http://www.iana.org/assignments/aaa-parameters/aaa-parameters.xml

    AVP Codes
         Registration Procedures
             Expert Review with Specification
         Experts
             Dan Romascanu
         Reference
             [RFC6733]
         Note
             If more than 3 are needed, IETF Review.

However,  Dan does not know exactly how he ended by being listed as the 
designated expert for the AVP Codes registry for AAA.
Probably a mistake while transitioning from RFC 3588 to RFC 6733, 
because the IANA considerations for the AVP code has not changed, it 
still requires Expert Review.

If someone could shed some light on what happened, that would be perfect.
Also, who was the expert before?

Regards, Benoit

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    Dear all,<br>
    <br>
    While asking the expert review for draft-ietf-dime-erp-16, IANA
    asked Dan Romascanu.<br>
    Indeed, Dan is listed as the expert at
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/aaa-parameters/aaa-parameters.xml">http://www.iana.org/assignments/aaa-parameters/aaa-parameters.xml</a><br>
    <blockquote>AVP Codes<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Registration Procedures<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Expert Review with Specification<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Experts<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Dan Romascanu<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Reference<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC6733]<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Note<br>
      &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If more than 3 are needed, IETF Review.<br>
    </blockquote>
    However,&nbsp; Dan does not know exactly how he ended by being listed as
    the designated expert for the AVP Codes registry for AAA.<br>
    Probably a mistake while transitioning from RFC 3588 to RFC 6733,
    because the IANA considerations for the AVP code has not changed, it
    still requires Expert Review.<br>
    <br>
    If someone could shed some light on what happened, that would be
    perfect.<br>
    Also, who was the expert before?<br>
    <br>
    Regards, Benoit<br>
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Dear AAA doctors,

I have to admit that I lost track of the (multiple) AAA doctor 
discussion(s) regarding this draft.
Does this version 10 address your concerns?

Regards, Benoit


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rdroms.ietf@gmail.com, bclaise@cisco.com, turners@ieca.com



A new version (-10) has been submitted for draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-10.txt


The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib/

Diff from previous version:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-10

IETF Secretariat.






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    Dear AAA doctors,<br>
    <br>
    I have to admit that I lost track of the (multiple) AAA doctor
    discussion(s) regarding this draft.<br>
    Does this version 10 address your concerns?<br>
    <br>
    Regards, Benoit<br>
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            <td>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 21:38:38 -0800</td>
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            <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
            <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org">internet-drafts@ietf.org</a></td>
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            <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:softwire-chairs@tools.ietf.org">softwire-chairs@tools.ietf.org</a>,
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib@tools.ietf.org">draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib@tools.ietf.org</a>,
              <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rdroms.ietf@gmail.com">rdroms.ietf@gmail.com</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bclaise@cisco.com">bclaise@cisco.com</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:turners@ieca.com">turners@ieca.com</a></td>
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      <pre>A new version (-10) has been submitted for draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-10.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-10.txt</a>


The IETF datatracker page for this Internet-Draft is:
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Diff from previous version:
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Really, there were no AAA AVP code designated expert before Dan?

If the answer is no, then we need to find an expert.
Please send me proposals, even for yourself, in a private message.

Regards, Benoit
> Dear all,
>
> While asking the expert review for draft-ietf-dime-erp-16, IANA asked 
> Dan Romascanu.
> Indeed, Dan is listed as the expert at 
> http://www.iana.org/assignments/aaa-parameters/aaa-parameters.xml
>
>     AVP Codes
>         Registration Procedures
>             Expert Review with Specification
>         Experts
>             Dan Romascanu
>         Reference
>             [RFC6733]
>         Note
>             If more than 3 are needed, IETF Review.
>
> However,  Dan does not know exactly how he ended by being listed as 
> the designated expert for the AVP Codes registry for AAA.
> Probably a mistake while transitioning from RFC 3588 to RFC 6733, 
> because the IANA considerations for the AVP code has not changed, it 
> still requires Expert Review.
>
> If someone could shed some light on what happened, that would be perfect.
> Also, who was the expert before?
>
> Regards, Benoit


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Really, there were no AAA AVP code
      designated expert before Dan?<br>
      <br>
      If the answer is no, then we need to find an expert.<br>
      Please send me proposals, even for yourself, in a private message.<br>
      <br>
      Regards, Benoit<br>
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      Dear all,<br>
      <br>
      While asking the expert review for draft-ietf-dime-erp-16, IANA
      asked Dan Romascanu.<br>
      Indeed, Dan is listed as the expert at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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        href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/aaa-parameters/aaa-parameters.xml">http://www.iana.org/assignments/aaa-parameters/aaa-parameters.xml</a><br>
      <blockquote>AVP Codes<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Registration Procedures<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Expert Review with Specification<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Experts<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Dan Romascanu<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Reference<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; [RFC6733]<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Note<br>
        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If more than 3 are needed, IETF Review.<br>
      </blockquote>
      However,&nbsp; Dan does not know exactly how he ended by being listed
      as the designated expert for the AVP Codes registry for AAA.<br>
      Probably a mistake while transitioning from RFC 3588 to RFC 6733,
      because the IANA considerations for the AVP code has not changed,
      it still requires Expert Review.<br>
      <br>
      If someone could shed some light on what happened, that would be
      perfect.<br>
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      <br>
      Regards, Benoit<br>
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Dear AAA doctors,

I updated my DISCUSS with the latest information. See below
Regarding this COMMENT

    Also, it would be helpful to be explicit about the value of the
    Service-Type attribute in Access-Requests (I am assuming that this
    is no longer "Call-Check", since the User-Password attribute is
    included in the Access-Request). 

I believe that the AAA doctors should give clear guidelines to the 
draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib authors regarding the content of 
the Service-Type.
If we can't, I propose not to insist on this issue.
This is the reason why this is a COMMENT and not a DISCUSS.

Feedback?

Regards, Benoit


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The AAA doctors reviewed version 10

1. While Section 3 now does describe how authentication/authorization
functions in a way that is compliant with RFC 2865 and 5080, there is no
normative language and the requirements (e.g. for User-Name and
User-Password attributes, Message-Authenticator attribute) are not
included in Section 4.2.

2. Section 6 (Security Considerations) has a dangling sentence:

...

    The MAC address spoofing is possible

...

   OK... then what?


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- Also, it would be helpful to be explicit about the value of the
Service-Type attribute in Access-Requests (I am assuming that this is no
longer "Call-Check", since the User-Password attribute is included in the
Access-Request).

- You started to use the terminology from RFC 5969, but for two terms
only.
It's a pity that you didn't reuse so other.
4.1. IPv6-6rd-Configuration Attribute

        6rdPrefix

          The Service Provider's 6rd IPv6 prefix represented as a 16
          octet IPv6 address. The bits after the 6rdPrefixlen number of
          bits in the prefix SHOULD be set to zero.

        ...

        6rdBRIPv4Address

          One or more IPv4 addresses of the 6rd Border Relay(s) for a
          given 6rd domain. The maximum RADIUS Attribute length of 255
          octets results in a limit of 58 IPv4 addresses.

>From RFC 5969:
    6rd prefix            An IPv6 prefix selected by the service provider
                          for use by a 6rd domain.  There is exactly one
                          6rd prefix for a given 6rd domain.  An SP may
                          deploy 6rd with a single 6rd domain or multiple
                          6rd domains.

    ...

    BR IPv4 address       The IPv4 address of the 6rd Border Relay for a
                          given 6rd domain.  This IPv4 address is used by
                          the CE to send packets to a BR in order to
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    Dear AAA doctors,<br>
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    I updated my DISCUSS with the latest information. See below<br>
    Regarding this COMMENT<br>
    <blockquote> Also, it would be helpful to be explicit about the
      value of the Service-Type attribute in Access-Requests (I am
      assuming that this is no longer "Call-Check", since the
      User-Password attribute is included in the Access-Request). </blockquote>
    <div class="moz-forward-container">I believe that the AAA doctors
      should give clear guidelines to the
      draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib authors regarding the
      content of the Service-Type.<br>
      If we can't, I propose not to insist on this issue. <br>
      This is the reason why this is a COMMENT and not a DISCUSS.<br>
      <br>
      Feedback?<br>
      <br>
      Regards, Benoit<br>
      <br>
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The AAA doctors reviewed version 10

1. While Section 3 now does describe how authentication/authorization
functions in a way that is compliant with RFC 2865 and 5080, there is no
normative language and the requirements (e.g. for User-Name and
User-Password attributes, Message-Authenticator attribute) are not
included in Section 4.2.  

2. Section 6 (Security Considerations) has a dangling sentence:

...

   The MAC address spoofing is possible

...

  OK... then what?


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- Also, it would be helpful to be explicit about the value of the
Service-Type attribute in Access-Requests (I am assuming that this is no
longer "Call-Check", since the User-Password attribute is included in the
Access-Request). 

- You started to use the terminology from RFC 5969, but for two terms
only.
It's a pity that you didn't reuse so other.
4.1. IPv6-6rd-Configuration Attribute

       6rdPrefix

         The Service Provider's 6rd IPv6 prefix represented as a 16
         octet IPv6 address. The bits after the 6rdPrefixlen number of
         bits in the prefix SHOULD be set to zero.

       ...

       6rdBRIPv4Address

         One or more IPv4 addresses of the 6rd Border Relay(s) for a
         given 6rd domain. The maximum RADIUS Attribute length of 255
         octets results in a limit of 58 IPv4 addresses. 

&gt;From RFC 5969:
   6rd prefix            An IPv6 prefix selected by the service provider
                         for use by a 6rd domain.  There is exactly one
                         6rd prefix for a given 6rd domain.  An SP may
                         deploy 6rd with a single 6rd domain or multiple
                         6rd domains.

   ...

   BR IPv4 address       The IPv4 address of the 6rd Border Relay for a
                         given 6rd domain.  This IPv4 address is used by
                         the CE to send packets to a BR in order to
                         reach IPv6 destinations outside of the 6rd
                         domain.




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Any feedback folks?  I'm sitting on a discuss related to this.

spt

On 1/17/13 4:20 AM, Benoit Claise wrote:
> Dear AAA doctors,
>
> I updated my DISCUSS with the latest information. See below
> Regarding this COMMENT
>
>     Also, it would be helpful to be explicit about the value of the
>     Service-Type attribute in Access-Requests (I am assuming that this
>     is no longer "Call-Check", since the User-Password attribute is
>     included in the Access-Request).
>
> I believe that the AAA doctors should give clear guidelines to the
> draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib authors regarding the content of
> the Service-Type.
> If we can't, I propose not to insist on this issue.
> This is the reason why this is a COMMENT and not a DISCUSS.
>
> Feedback?
>
> Regards, Benoit
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Benoit Claise's Discuss on
> draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
> Date: 	Thu, 17 Jan 2013 01:13:06 -0800
> From: 	Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>
> To: 	The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
> CC: 	draft-ietf-softwire-6rd-radius-attrib@tools.ietf.org,
> softwire-chairs@tools.ietf.org
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> DISCUSS:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The AAA doctors reviewed version 10
>
> 1. While Section 3 now does describe how authentication/authorization
> functions in a way that is compliant with RFC 2865 and 5080, there is no
> normative language and the requirements (e.g. for User-Name and
> User-Password attributes, Message-Authenticator attribute) are not
> included in Section 4.2.
>
> 2. Section 6 (Security Considerations) has a dangling sentence:
>
> ...
>
>     The MAC address spoofing is possible
>
> ...
>
>    OK... then what?
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> COMMENT:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> - Also, it would be helpful to be explicit about the value of the
> Service-Type attribute in Access-Requests (I am assuming that this is no
> longer "Call-Check", since the User-Password attribute is included in the
> Access-Request).
>
> - You started to use the terminology from RFC 5969, but for two terms
> only.
> It's a pity that you didn't reuse so other.
> 4.1. IPv6-6rd-Configuration Attribute
>
>         6rdPrefix
>
>           The Service Provider's 6rd IPv6 prefix represented as a 16
>           octet IPv6 address. The bits after the 6rdPrefixlen number of
>           bits in the prefix SHOULD be set to zero.
>
>         ...
>
>         6rdBRIPv4Address
>
>           One or more IPv4 addresses of the 6rd Border Relay(s) for a
>           given 6rd domain. The maximum RADIUS Attribute length of 255
>           octets results in a limit of 58 IPv4 addresses.
>
>>From RFC 5969:
>     6rd prefix            An IPv6 prefix selected by the service provider
>                           for use by a 6rd domain.  There is exactly one
>                           6rd prefix for a given 6rd domain.  An SP may
>                           deploy 6rd with a single 6rd domain or multiple
>                           6rd domains.
>
>     ...
>
>     BR IPv4 address       The IPv4 address of the 6rd Border Relay for a
>                           given 6rd domain.  This IPv4 address is used by
>                           the CE to send packets to a BR in order to
>                           reach IPv6 destinations outside of the 6rd
>                           domain.
>
>
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FYI.

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	Designated Expert for RFC 6733 AVP Codes
Date: 	Fri, 25 Jan 2013 07:42:11 -0800
From: 	IESG Secretary <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
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IANA,

The IESG has approved Lionel Morand (lionel.morand@orange.com) as the
primary expert and Jouni Korhonen (jouni.nospam@gmail.com) as the
secondary expert for RFC 6733 AVP Codes.

Best regards,
IESG Secretary





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