From nobody Tue May 5 03:08:04 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D961A87EA for ; Tue, 5 May 2015 03:08:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.55 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FUotd1yOKwRR for ; Tue, 5 May 2015 03:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 958E41A87DF for ; Tue, 5 May 2015 03:08:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.201.11]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t45A7tcQ021655; Tue, 5 May 2015 12:07:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [IPv6:2001:638:708:30da:81c5:54c1:218e:d4f3] (unknown [IPv6:2001:638:708:30da:81c5:54c1:218e:d4f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3lgxZ44xN3zDbZW; Tue, 5 May 2015 12:07:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <55489656.7020806@tzi.de> Date: Tue, 05 May 2015 12:07:18 +0200 From: Stefanie Gerdes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Renzo Navas , Ace@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Ace] gerdes-ace-dcaf-authorize (DTLS PSK Generation Methods) X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 May 2015 10:08:02 -0000 Hi Renzo, On 04/29/2015 11:47 AM, Renzo Navas wrote: > Hello Steffi and DCAF authors, > > I was reading the DCAF draft and I think I find nomenclature mismatch (on > section 6.1): > > > 6.1 . > DTLS PSK Transfer > > The DTLS PSK is generated by AS and transmitted to C and S using a > secure channel. > > > > "generated by AS" might be "generated by SAM" (or generated by The > AM). I think "AS" was the nomenclature used on version 00 of the > draft. Ah yes, those terminology changes are a pain. But this problem will fortunately be solved in the next version :). > > > Also I want to say that its great that the document > draft-gerdes-ace-actors-04 the WG is arriving to a nomenclature merge > with the draft-seitz-ace-problem-description-03, as discussed on > Dallas IETF. > > So in the end if the next version of DCAF aligns with Actors, the SAM > will be AS again :) > > > > I want to mention that I have a UseCase when I need to bootstrap C > into an unknown network (but possibly federated with the trusted > home-network of C) so I cannot assume a pre-established secured > channel between C and CAM :(. > I am working on an mutually-authenticated secured bootstraping > solution. Possibly only using symmetrc criptography. Ah interesting. I wrote up some ideas about securing authorization transitions in the lifecycle of a constrained device in draft-gerdes-ace-a2a [1]. Maybe that can be useful? We also developed a mechanism for secure bootstrapping that uses CoAP and symmetric keys a while ago [2]. We have implementations for that if you are interested. > > Thanks again Steffi for you work, Thank you :) Best regards, Steffi [1] https://tools.ietf.org/pdf/draft-gerdes-ace-a2a [2] Olaf Bergmann, Stefanie Gerdes, Silke Schäfer, Florian Junge, Carsten Bormann: Secure Bootstrapping of Nodes in a CoAP Network. In: Proceedings of the WCNC 2012 Workshop on the Internet of Things Enabling Technologies, Embracing Machine-to-Machine Communications and Beyond. April 2012, pp. 220—225. From nobody Wed May 13 18:21:19 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E188E1B32A1 for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 18:21:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_BASE64_BLANKS=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tQ90CTyPc4_m for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 18:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out4133-98.mail.aliyun.com (out4133-98.mail.aliyun.com [42.120.133.98]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52B001B3008 for ; Wed, 13 May 2015 18:21:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alibaba-inc.com; s=default; t=1431566474; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:Mime-version:Content-type; bh=3c2ney71GpWwv7OM+V/DbEkpZR61ALTVzYRZChxBHUo=; b=OhY1V+T2oLx4PC7Z5GQykfssILEtgxknpKx3p1Xjq0vjF0pmBJLoiLxhK4xxVA060ZI7LIxSX77zb6Xu7UhwACZbXXwMWw7j48CJqR06+QyJ15W7q17Ho09c9lxQ7ueCzRqSTwiFi5Z5G1/w4p02H0QZtBp3d0hT3k5BvnLA4iY= X-Alimail-AntiSpam: AC=PASS; BC=-1|-1; BR=01201311R211e4; FP=0|-1|-1|-1|0|-1|-1|-1; HT=r41g08145; MF=kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com; PH=DS; RN=1; RT=1; SR=0; Received: from 10.1.151.150(mailfrom:kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com ip:42.120.74.184) by smtp.aliyun-inc.com(127.0.0.1); Thu, 14 May 2015 09:21:12 +0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.8.150116 Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 09:21:06 +0800 From: "Kepeng Li" To: "ace@ietf.org" Message-ID: Thread-Topic: WebEx meeting invitation: ACE Interim Meeting, 27th May, UTC 14:00 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="B_3514440072_554905" Archived-At: Subject: [Ace] WebEx meeting invitation: ACE Interim Meeting, 27th May, UTC 14:00 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 01:21:18 -0000 > ´ËÓʼþʹÓà MIME ¸ñʽ¡£ÓÉÓÚÓʼþÔĶÁ³ÌÐò²»ÄÜʶ±ð ´Ë¸ñʽ£¬Òò´Ë£¬¿ÉÄÜÎÞ·¨Ê¶±ð¸ÃÓʼþµÄ·Ö²¿»ò²¿·ÖÄÚÈÝ¡£ --B_3514440072_554905 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3514440072_581061" --B_3514440072_581061 Content-type: text/plain; charset="GB2312" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello all, Please find ACE interim meeting information below. 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Wed, 27 May 2015 12:37:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alma.local (reingewinn.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.218.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3lxTBB06M4z8xbS; Wed, 27 May 2015 12:37:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <55659E60.3000000@tzi.org> Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 12:37:20 +0200 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 3.0.11 (Macintosh/20140602) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kepeng Li References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: "ace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ace] WebEx meeting invitation: ACE Interim Meeting, 27th May, UTC 14:00 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 10:37:34 -0000 Hi Kepeng, do we have an agenda? It turns out I'll have to run out at 14:25 UTC for an unplanned dentist appointment, so it would help me to get any discussion about the adoption of draft-gerdes-actors done by that. (I may still return in time to catch the trailing end.) Grüße, Carsten Kepeng Li wrote: > Hello all, > > Please find ACE interim meeting information below. > > We will mainly discuss the following draft: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gerdes-ace-actors/ > > Please review it beforehand, and provide your review comments in the > mailing list. > > Thanks, > > Kind Regards > Kepeng > > > *ACE Interim Meeting* > Wednesday, May 27, 2015 > 14:00 ~ 16:00 | UTC | 2 hrs > > > > *Join WebEx meeting* > > > Meeting number: 642 224 662 > Meeting password: 1234 > > > > *Join by phone* > *1-650-479-3208* Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > Access code: 642 224 662 > > > > Add this meeting > > to your calendar. > > > > Can't join the meeting? Contact support. > > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please note that this WebEx service allows audio and > other information sent during the session to be recorded, which may be > discoverable in a legal matter. By joining this session, you > automatically consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to being > recorded, discuss your concerns with the host or do not join the session. > > _______________________________________________ > Ace mailing list > Ace@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace From nobody Wed May 27 03:53:21 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A901ACDA7 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 03:53:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qnx0xySkdoD6 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 03:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from out4133-34.mail.aliyun.com (out4133-34.mail.aliyun.com [42.120.133.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70641ACD03 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 03:53:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alibaba-inc.com; s=default; t=1432723995; h=Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:Mime-version:Content-type; bh=WEs2j52nFXnO/epcu68xUC82uTkRCJMc/AwGER5UvsM=; b=ofthddKDDAfjmcZPmT2MphBIrBKmVVjnUE4dhm7pir28RpXzfTImSQfoGSo5q4sDj4mXwTCGRctyWQozAoJHswKQNTuleSVAyS681Ndb7aDSMlRDcuWgdGAD5zGV+6zHnOgm11/SHjnuRSzelrlwCMIgOTDcD2kjjU4qirmonXc= X-Alimail-AntiSpam: AC=PASS; BC=-1|-1; BR=01201311R691e4; FP=0|-1|-1|-1|0|-1|-1|-1; HT=r41f05021; MF=kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com; PH=DS; RN=2; RT=2; SR=0; Received: from 10.1.151.150(mailfrom:kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com ip:42.120.74.163) by smtp.aliyun-inc.com(127.0.0.1); Wed, 27 May 2015 18:53:10 +0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.8.150116 Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 18:53:04 +0800 From: "Kepeng Li" To: Carsten Bormann Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [Ace] WebEx meeting invitation: ACE Interim Meeting, 27th May, UTC 14:00 References: <55659E60.3000000@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <55659E60.3000000@tzi.org> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Cc: "ace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ace] WebEx meeting invitation: ACE Interim Meeting, 27th May, UTC 14:00 X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 10:53:20 -0000 Hi Carsten, Here is my proposed agenda: 1. Actors draft discussion: Goal: get the group opinion about the adoption of the actors draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gerdes-ace-actors/ 2. Next step for the use case document. For the agenda item 1, it will be better if the authors can provide some slides to help the discussion. Thanks, Kind Regards Kepeng =E5=9C=A8 27/5/15 6:37 pm=EF=BC=8C "Carsten Bormann" =E5=86=99=E5=85=A5: >Hi Kepeng, > >do we have an agenda? > >It turns out I'll have to run out at 14:25 UTC for an unplanned dentist >appointment, so it would help me to get any discussion about the >adoption of draft-gerdes-actors done by that. (I may still return in >time to catch the trailing end.) > >Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > >Kepeng Li wrote: >> Hello all, >>=20 >> Please find ACE interim meeting information below. >>=20 >> We will mainly discuss the following draft: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gerdes-ace-actors/ >>=20 >> Please review it beforehand, and provide your review comments in the >> mailing list. >>=20 >> Thanks, >>=20 >> Kind Regards >> Kepeng >> =20 >>=20 >> *ACE Interim Meeting* >> Wednesday, May 27, 2015 >> 14:00 ~ 16:00 | UTC | 2 hrs >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> *Join WebEx meeting* >>=20 >>>> >>=20 >> Meeting number: 642 224 662 >> Meeting password: 1234 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> *Join by phone* >> *1-650-479-3208* Call-in toll number (US/Canada) >> Access code: 642 224 662 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Add this meeting >>=20 >>>> >> to your calendar. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Can't join the meeting? Contact support. >> >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please note that this WebEx service allows audio and >> other information sent during the session to be recorded, which may be >> discoverable in a legal matter. By joining this session, you >> automatically consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to being >> recorded, discuss your concerns with the host or do not join the >>session. >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Ace mailing list >> Ace@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ace From nobody Thu May 28 10:53:58 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7361A8766 for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 10:53:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.609 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.609 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IR_Ag-0L3hAQ for ; Thu, 28 May 2015 10:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpvbsrv1.mitre.org 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2015 17:07:39 -0400 From: Thomas Hardjono To: "ace@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Review of ACE Uses Cases draft (draft-ietf-ace-usecases-03) Thread-Index: AdCaU4H4IgyXLJNNQXyNSS9QjRBkrQ== Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 21:07:39 +0000 Message-ID: <5E393DF26B791A428E5F003BB6C5342A92D08CE4@OC11EXPO24.exchange.mit.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [173.48.124.145] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrIKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixG6noit/NSPU4OFqCYvv33qYLZbuvMdq 0bAz3+Ly/CIHFo+Jbz+yeOycdZfdY/Gm/WweS5b8ZApgieKySUnNySxLLdK3S+DKmHdzJkvB POuKByteszUwHtHvYuTkkBAwkXj6egYzhC0mceHeerYuRi4OIYHFTBLXju5nh3AOMEocmdPC COEcZ5T48GYeVNl2RonXT5cwQzgrGSW+z3jOCDKMTUBDou1HL1A/B4eIgKLE9UeJIDXMAucZ Jfq/rmAFqREWcJFY+XUhmC0i4Clx/sdVFghbT2L/zMNgR7EIqEocuvGBDcTmFQiSWPqtkx3E ZgQ69vupNUwgNrOAuMStJ/OZIJ4QlFg0ew/cQ/92PWSDsJUkPr7bywZRryOxYPcnKFtbYtnC 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X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 21:07:47 -0000 Hannes, Kepeng, Folks, As promised, here is a review of the use cases draft (draft-ietf-ace-usecas= es-03). I also checked against the stated goals of the ACE Charter. I apologize upfront if some of my comments may offend folks in the ACE WG. = However, the field of Constrained Environments and Devices (IoT) is a huge = deal, so I believe getting the architecture/protocols right is an important= contribution that IETF can make. General comments: (a) On the positive side: - I think this is a pretty good and reasonable set of use-cases from the AC= E WG. Congrats! - The majority of use-cases here have been written in a technology-agnostic= manner, as they should. And so perhaps the draft doesn't really need to ca= ll out specific technologies/protocols like REST and CoAP (Section 1, Parag= 4 & 5) since these are already called out in the ACE Charter. However, lea= ving these in is also ok and does not detract from value of the use-cases d= raft. (b) On the (somewhat) negative side: - IoT is the other side of the coin of Big Data. This is particularly true= for the Home Automation (Smart Home) scenarios. The most valuable asset h= ere is the *data* that these devices collect and report. - As such I was kind of surprise that there was no use-case covering the Ho= me Personal Data Store (Home-PDS). Many smart-home owners would potentially= prefer the model where all their home-data (e.g. from AC, refrigerator, th= ermostat, etc) gets collected into one data-store or container that they co= ntrol (call it what you will: the home PC, the "home server", the "home gat= eway", etc). In this way the home-owner then has owner-centric control over= which data-sets get sent out of the home. PS. If the ACE WG is open, I can write a short use-case on the Home-PDS. (c) Weak Privacy Considerations section (Sect 4): - The privacy consideration section (Sect 4) is weak IMHO. Perhaps a privac= y expert should be invited to contribute better text to that section. - May I suggest the addition of some references in Sect 4 that indicate awa= reness of privacy issues around personal/home/health data: [ref#1] World Economic Forum, "Personal Data: The Emergence of a New Asset = Class," 2011, available on http://www.weforum.org/reports/ personal-data-em= ergence-new-asset-class. [ref#2] Meglena Kuneva, European Consumer Commissioner, Keynote Speech, Rou= ndtable on Online Data Collection, Targeting and Profiling, Brussels, 31 Ma= rch 2009. Available at: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-09-156_= en.htm Specific comments on certain lines on the draft: (d) Section 2, parag.2 : >>> The definition of the function of a >>> device in a certain use case is not=20 >>> in scope of this document. This line seems redundant. I think a good use-case ("use-case scenario") sh= ould always be written in a high level and thus avoid defining functions to= begin with. (e) Section 2.2, parag. 1: >>> A home automation system connects=20 >>> devices in a house to the Internet=20 >>> and thus makes them accessible and=20 >>> manageable remotely.=20 To the non-technical reader, this line seems to confine/limit the potential= scope of Home Automation or the Smart Home. IoT in the home promises far m= ore than provide remote accessibility and remote manageability to devices i= n the home. (f) Section 2.3.2: >>> o U3.7 The device provides a service=20 >>> that can be fatal for the wearer if it fails. >>> Accordingly, the wearer wants a security >>> mechanism to provide a high level of security. I think I understand the intent of this line (related to U3.6), but the sen= tence could be improved. More specifically, a device failing may have nothi= ng to do with the level of security implemented in the device. For example,= a heart monitor may fail simply because it was a faulty device coming out = of the factory. So perhaps something like:=20 "The device provides a service that can be fatal for the wearer if it fails= . Accordingly, the wearer wants the device to have a high degree of resista= nce against attacks that may cause the device to fail to operate partially = or completely". (g) 2.5.3. Advanced Metering Infrastructure: - This subsection perhaps contains too much technical detail about the Head= -End and the Data Collection Units. (Most home owners who have cable TV or = cable modem don't know that there is a head end CMTS server that talks to t= heir cable box). - I would suggest rewriting these two bullets into a softer explanation usi= ng the entities involved (home-owner, utility company, smart meter, etc). (h) 2.5.4: U5.1 >>> U5.1 Devices are installed in hostile=20 >>> environments where they are physically=20 >>> accessible by attackers. The service=20 >>> operator and the utility company want=20 >>> to make sure that an attacker cannot use a >>> captured device to attack other parts=20 >>> of their infrastructure. - This bullet item does not sound like it is an authorization problem but r= ather a device-physical-security problem, caused by placing the devices (e.= g. smart meter) outside the house or premises. This problem could be remedi= ed (e.g. in the future drive-by metering) if in the smart-meter was placed = inside the house (e.g. windows panel) or placed on high on the wall or the = roof. =20 (i) 2.5.4: U5.2 >> U5.2 The utility company wants to restrict=20 >> which entities are allowed to send data to=20 >> their endpoints and to ensure the >> integrity of the data on their endpoints. This sentence is a bit confusing and needs fixing (maybe it was 2 sentences= joined into one). We know that the utility company wants both of these fea= tures (authorization to send data with source-authentication; and integrity= -protection of data/messages). Perhaps rewriting this into separate lines w= ould help. (j) 2.5.4: U5.2 >>> o U5.3 The utility company wants to=20 >>> control which entities are allowed to=20 >>> read data on their endpoints and protect=20 >>> such data in transfer. This sentence could also be improved as it seems to merge together two diff= erent needs (authorization to read data once it arrives at the side of the = utility company; and integrity-protection of data/messages in transit to th= e utility end-point). (k) Section 3: Parag. 1 >> Therefore, the devices will be entrusted with vast >> amounts of valuable data or even control functions, >> that need to be protected from unauthorized >> access. Moreover, the aggregation of data must be >> considered: attackers might not only collect=20 >> data from a single device but from >> many devices, thus increasing the potential damage. - This paragraph does not read to be consistent. Most IoT devices will hav= e a limited storage resource, which is why they need to periodically "dump"= (somewhere) the data they have gathered so far. So over time an IoT device= will see large amounts of raw data pass-through but an attacker may not ne= cessarily have access to all of this data. - The second sentence is unclear. If an attacker can read data from large a= mounts of distributed IoT devices on an on-going basis, that means they hav= e successfully compromised these devices on an almost permanent basis which= means the game is up). Perhaps that second line could be re-written/improv= ed. /thomas/ ____________________________________________ From nobody Fri May 29 14:10:31 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 844A31ACE92 for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 14:10:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.55 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OIlgE2_VR5_I for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 14:10:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [IPv6:2001:638:708:30c9::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF1061AD0AC for ; Fri, 29 May 2015 14:10:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.201.11]) by mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id t4TLAJrO017018; Fri, 29 May 2015 23:10:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from alma.local (p5DCCC91B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.201.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3lyz7b1k0rz2c41; Fri, 29 May 2015 23:10:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5568D5B9.9090305@tzi.org> Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 23:10:17 +0200 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 3.0.11 (Macintosh/20140602) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Hardjono References: <5E393DF26B791A428E5F003BB6C5342A92D08CE4@OC11EXPO24.exchange.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <5E393DF26B791A428E5F003BB6C5342A92D08CE4@OC11EXPO24.exchange.mit.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: "Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com" , "Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net" , "kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com" , "ace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ace] Review of ACE Uses Cases draft (draft-ietf-ace-usecases-03) X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 21:10:29 -0000 Thomas Hardjono wrote: > PS. If the ACE WG is open, I can write a short use-case on the Home-PDS. Yes, please: This would be very useful. 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([18.7.73.27]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Sun, 31 May 2015 15:29:49 -0400 From: Thomas Hardjono To: Carsten Bormann Thread-Topic: Home-PDS use case --- RE: [Ace] Review of ACE Uses Cases draft (draft-ietf-ace-usecases-03) Thread-Index: AdCb2CWq7B3QWWctSJyvdhAc5FCIcg== Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 19:29:48 +0000 Message-ID: <5E393DF26B791A428E5F003BB6C5342A92D0B591@OC11EXPO24.exchange.mit.edu> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [173.48.124.145] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFnrOKsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrGuYmB1qcK9BzeL7tx5miyNT7rJa LN15j9WiYWe+xeX5RQ6sHhPffmTx2DnrLrvH4k372TyWLPnJ5DFtUWYAaxSXTUpqTmZZapG+ XQJXRuPBn8wFPcYV/15fYWxgfGLYxcjBISFgIvHurn0XIyeQKSZx4d56ti5GLg4hgcVMEpt7 LjNBOAcYJR7sOc0I4RwDcpZtgspsY5Q4+nQRK0i/kMBKRolTuy1BbDYBDYm2H73sILaIgJLE hYtrwOYyC6xikuhYdxKsQVggXeLs/rtMEEU5Evcm97FB2HoS189uZASxWQRUJabd+Qtm8woE 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(p5DCCC91B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.204.201.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by submithost.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3m08zh2gx8z2c4J; Sun, 31 May 2015 21:37:36 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <556B62FE.2080100@tzi.org> Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 21:37:34 +0200 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 3.0.11 (Macintosh/20140602) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Hardjono References: <5E393DF26B791A428E5F003BB6C5342A92D0B591@OC11EXPO24.exchange.mit.edu> In-Reply-To: <5E393DF26B791A428E5F003BB6C5342A92D0B591@OC11EXPO24.exchange.mit.edu> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: "Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com" , "Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net" , "kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com" , "ace@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Ace] Home-PDS use case --- RE: Review of ACE Uses Cases draft (draft-ietf-ace-usecases-03) X-BeenThere: ace@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments \(ace\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 19:37:48 -0000 Thomas, thank you for the description of this really important use case. Two quick comments come to mind: 2.8.2 adds Bob as a stake holder, but 2.8.3 then only seems to mention the home owner as the controlling entity. "Leave the home premises" is a concept that is hard to map into authorization. In particular, enforcing it would require assurance from all on-premise devices that are granted authorization to some data, assuring that they are not a channel that can be used to exfiltrate data. Grüße, Carsten Thomas Hardjono wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Carsten Bormann [mailto:cabo@tzi.org] >> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 5:10 PM >> To: Thomas Hardjono >> Cc: ace@ietf.org; Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net; >> Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com; >> kepeng.lkp@alibaba-inc.com >> Subject: Re: [Ace] Review of ACE Uses Cases >> draft (draft-ietf-ace-usecases-03) >> >> Thomas Hardjono wrote: >>> PS. If the ACE WG is open, I can write a >> short use-case on the Home-PDS. >> >> Yes, please: This would be very useful. >> >> Grüße, Carsten > > > Thanks Carsten, > > Attached is a use-case for the Home-PDS. > > Please let me know if there are typos or corrections/clarifications needed. > > cheers, > > /thomas/ > > > ---- begin ACE use case ------ > > 2.8 Home Personal Data Store > > As the future home automation or "smart home" becomes a reality, users (home owners, residents, tenants and other occupants) have become increasingly concerned about the control over data being gathered by the various home automation devices. As such, many users today consider that they are the legal owners of data being generated by home automation devices and sensors within the boundaries of their property. Thus, many users seek to use a home server device (analogous to common NAS servers or home audio servers) that acts as the collection-point for all data reported to by the smart-home devices/sensors. Such a device is referred to generally as the Home Personal Data Store (Home-PDS). > > Using a Home-PDS the home-owner then has an owner-centric control over their data sets collected in their Home-PDS, and can provide explicit permission for these data-sets to be accessed by entities, systems or person from outside the home. > > > 2.8.1 Home Sensor Data Collection > > Alice who is a home owner has just deployed a number of smart-home devices and sensors. After she has on-boarded these devices into the home automation system, she configures these devices/sensors to communicate and report their respective raw data-sets into her Home-PDS. After verifying that all her smart home devices are operable and reporting data, she uses the authorization manager tool on the Home-PDS to set permissions for external entities to read relevant data-sets from the Home-PDS. > > Alice provides permission for the local electricity company to access power consumption data-sets pertaining to all her home appliances, in the hope that the electricity company can advise her on how to use power more efficiently. > > Alice has also signed-up to a new service called "Lighting As a Service" (LaaS) where all the home's lighting needs are monitored and serviced by the LaaS company. Alice then uses the authorization manager tool on the Home-PDS to provide the company with on-going access to the data-sets in her Home-PDS that are related to lighting in her house (e.g. light-bulb data, socket data, burn-rate data, etc). The LaaS company uses these lighting data-sets to monitor in real-time the status of all her home's lighting. The company then sends Alice new light-bulbs just in time to replace some light bulbs that are burning out. > > > 2.8.2 Home-based healthcare Data > > Bob, who is Alice's spouse, has decided to configure the Home-PDS to collect and store data from his Wi-Fi enabled weight-scale as Bob is under medical care and monitoring. He has also configured his smart-watch to report sleep data, heart rate data and movement data to their Home-PDS. > > Bob then uses the authorization manager tool on the Home-PDS to set permission for his doctor and physiotherapist to read his health related data-sets from the Home-PDS. > > > 2.8.3 Authorization Problems Summary > > U8.1 Home-owners must have full control over the data being generated by the devices and sensors within their home. > > U8.2 Home-owners need the ability to set the Home-PDS as the default data collection point for all devices and sensors they introduce into their home. > > U8.3 Data from devices and sensors in the home must not leave the home premises without clear explicit permission from the home-owner. > > U8.4 Home-owners need the ability to set fine grained access control rules for other users or entities (inside and outside the home) to access to data-sets in the Home-PDS. > > U8.5 Home-owners need the ability to set access control rules in a meaningful manner, using a friendly and coherent user interface. > > U8.6 Home-owners need the ability to modify or revoke previously granted access to users or entities. > > U8.7 Home-owners need the option to obtain hosted services implementing the Home-PDS function, while retaining the same degree of owner-centric control over the data from the devices and sensors within their home. > > ---- end ACE use case ------ > > > > ____________________________________________ > > > > > > > From nobody Sun May 31 13:13:38 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ace@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BB01A90B4 for ; 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