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Hi,

Reflecting on this discussion and the adoption of the related draft, if
the draft is adopted I would suggest that before it goes forward an
auditing section should be added to security considerations so that
appropriate advice is given in the case a member of a group is
compromised.  I could envision several mechanisms to address that
concern.  Here are a few examples that would need to be considerably
fleshed out:

  * An audit system is admitted to the group and records IP addresses
    and times of messages received.  This may be compared to IPFIX
    records or packet logs to determine the veracity of sources.
  * Lower level source validation may be employed to determine the
    veracity of a source IP address.  This validation might take the
    form of IPSEC-AH.
  * Endpoints might log transmission and receipt of messages so that
    information may be compared.

Other approaches may be employed as well.

On additional authorization methods, one approach to protect group
membership would be to use a well known L3 multicast address and a
separate application port for communications, thus permitting normal
network filtering based on pre-authorization of the device at lower layer=
s.

The combination of these mechanisms should at least limit potential risk
and the threat surface.

Eliot

On 7/28/16 4:02 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Michael StJohns <mstjohns@comcast.net> wrote:
>     > On 7/27/2016 5:56 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
>
>
>     > Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>     >>> Mohit Sethi <mohit.m.sethi@ericsson.com> wrote:
>     >>> > designed/developed/specified for their use-case. I could defi=
nitely
>     >>> > see some IoT startup building a solution that switches on the=
 lights
>     >>> > in a room as soon as you unlock the door (thus keeping them i=
n the
>     >>> > same group).
>     >>>
>     >>> Or perhaps more usefully, turning the lights (and the oven) off=
 when you
>     >>> leave the house.
>
>     >> Good points, but you could do this without them being in the sam=
e
>     >> group with some controller that managed the interactions with ea=
ch.
>     >> This would be a good set of examples for the security considerat=
ions
>     >> sections, providing guidance to use a controller rather than gro=
up
>     >> keys to perform useful functions like these.
>
>     mcr> I agree.
>     mcr> Perhaps we could convince Mike St.Johns to write that section?=

>
>     msj> Probably not - as long as symmetric key group communications i=
s used
>     msj> as a control protocol.
>
> Well, who other than Nixon could go to China?
>
>     mcr> And ACE has the right mechanisms to make this work well.
>
>     msj> I agree - public key systems. But that seems to be out of scop=
e here.
>
> I'm not convinced.  What I have taken home is that people think they wa=
nt to
> use symmetric keys, and perhaps it might be safe among completely equiv=
alent
> devices. I take your point (strongly) that this bubble will be broken, =
with
> catastrophic results.  We need asymmetric methods between bubbles, and =
we
> need to define that early.
>
>     mcr> We should also consider whether we can use hash-chains, like S=
/KEY did, to
>     mcr> authenticate messages that should only go out in emergencies. =
 Such messages
>     mcr> would clearly *need* to be multicast, but once used, they can =
never be
>     mcr> reused.  They can't be originated by more than one sender thou=
gh.... so it's
>     mcr> really the message stored by the "EMERGENCY STOP" button.
>
>     msj> That's an interesting idea - but AIRC, hash chains could be or=
iginated
>     msj> by anyone that held the signing/verification key.
>
> Yes, provided they distributed the initial (asymmetrically signed) h^n(=
k)
> value out in advance, and gave all the devices enough time to verify th=
at
> signature.  Plus flash to store the n-th hash.
>
> For the single sender/controller, multiple receiver/actuator situation =
this
> would be almost as fast as the symmetric group key, yet much more secur=
e.
>
> For the multiple sender situation, you need to replicate things n-times=
=2E
> But it's still not n*m keys.
>
>     msj> Let's do this the right way. Let's not bow to the "tyranny of =
the
>     msj> light switch" in accepting solutions that are NOT secure, even=
 for the
>     msj> limited scope they are proposing.
>
> +1.
>
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
>  -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D-
>
>
>
>
>
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    <p>Hi,</p>
    <p>Reflecting on this discussion and the adoption of the related
      draft, if the draft is adopted I would suggest that before it goes
      forward an auditing section should be added to security
      considerations so that appropriate advice is given in the case a
      member of a group is compromised.=C2=A0 I could envision several
      mechanisms to address that concern.=C2=A0 Here are a few examples t=
hat
      would need to be considerably fleshed out:</p>
    <ul>
      <li>An audit system is admitted to the group and records IP
        addresses and times of messages received.=C2=A0 This may be compa=
red
        to IPFIX records or packet logs to determine the veracity of
        sources.</li>
      <li>Lower level source validation may be employed to determine the
        veracity of a source IP address.=C2=A0 This validation might take=
 the
        form of IPSEC-AH.</li>
      <li>Endpoints might log transmission and receipt of messages so
        that information may be compared.</li>
    </ul>
    Other approaches may be employed as well.<br>
    <br>
    On additional authorization methods, one approach to protect group
    membership would be to use a well known L3 multicast address and a
    separate application port for communications, thus permitting normal
    network filtering based on pre-authorization of the device at lower
    layers.<br>
    <br>
    The combination of these mechanisms should at least limit potential
    risk and the threat surface.<br>
    <br>
    Eliot<br>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 7/28/16 4:02 PM, Michael Richardson=

      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite=3D"mid:13663.1469714549@obiwan.sandelman.ca"
      type=3D"cite">
      <pre wrap=3D"">
Michael StJohns <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:mstjohn=
s@comcast.net">&lt;mstjohns@comcast.net&gt;</a> wrote:
    &gt; On 7/27/2016 5:56 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:


    &gt; Kathleen Moriarty <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mai=
lto:kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com">&lt;kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.co=
m&gt;</a> wrote:
    &gt;&gt;&gt; Mohit Sethi <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"m=
ailto:mohit.m.sethi@ericsson.com">&lt;mohit.m.sethi@ericsson.com&gt;</a> =
wrote:
    &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; designed/developed/specified for their use-case. I =
could definitely
    &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; see some IoT startup building a solution that switc=
hes on the lights
    &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; in a room as soon as you unlock the door (thus keep=
ing them in the
    &gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; same group).
    &gt;&gt;&gt;
    &gt;&gt;&gt; Or perhaps more usefully, turning the lights (and the ov=
en) off when you
    &gt;&gt;&gt; leave the house.

    &gt;&gt; Good points, but you could do this without them being in the=
 same
    &gt;&gt; group with some controller that managed the interactions wit=
h each.
    &gt;&gt; This would be a good set of examples for the security consid=
erations
    &gt;&gt; sections, providing guidance to use a controller rather than=
 group
    &gt;&gt; keys to perform useful functions like these.

    mcr&gt; I agree.
    mcr&gt; Perhaps we could convince Mike St.Johns to write that section=
?

    msj&gt; Probably not - as long as symmetric key group communications =
is used
    msj&gt; as a control protocol.

Well, who other than Nixon could go to China?

    mcr&gt; And ACE has the right mechanisms to make this work well.

    msj&gt; I agree - public key systems. But that seems to be out of sco=
pe here.

I'm not convinced.  What I have taken home is that people think they want=
 to
use symmetric keys, and perhaps it might be safe among completely equival=
ent
devices. I take your point (strongly) that this bubble will be broken, wi=
th
catastrophic results.  We need asymmetric methods between bubbles, and we=

need to define that early.

    mcr&gt; We should also consider whether we can use hash-chains, like =
S/KEY did, to
    mcr&gt; authenticate messages that should only go out in emergencies.=
  Such messages
    mcr&gt; would clearly *need* to be multicast, but once used, they can=
 never be
    mcr&gt; reused.  They can't be originated by more than one sender tho=
ugh.... so it's
    mcr&gt; really the message stored by the "EMERGENCY STOP" button.

    msj&gt; That's an interesting idea - but AIRC, hash chains could be o=
riginated
    msj&gt; by anyone that held the signing/verification key.

Yes, provided they distributed the initial (asymmetrically signed) h^n(k)=

value out in advance, and gave all the devices enough time to verify that=

signature.  Plus flash to store the n-th hash.

For the single sender/controller, multiple receiver/actuator situation th=
is
would be almost as fast as the symmetric group key, yet much more secure.=


For the multiple sender situation, you need to replicate things n-times.
But it's still not n*m keys.

    msj&gt; Let's do this the right way. Let's not bow to the "tyranny of=
 the
    msj&gt; light switch" in accepting solutions that are NOT secure, eve=
n for the
    msj&gt; limited scope they are proposing.

+1.

--
Michael Richardson <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:mcr+=
IETF@sandelman.ca">&lt;mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca&gt;</a>, Sandelman Software =
Works
 -=3D IPv6 IoT consulting =3D-



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This may be a bit scatterbrained as I did this review in several sessions
and the thoughts might not be consistent.

1.  In section #1, I would put in the fact that the derived key would only
be used for a period of time, after which a new ECDH key exchange would be
run again.

2.  It is not clear, but based on how the value of kid_ev is defined, it
might be reasonable to state that there is an expectation that generally U
will be a client and V a server.

3.  I would like to see the PSK half of the world setup so that it is not
required that the same key/kid pair be used in both directions.  Using a
different key in each direction makes things cleaner for some issues.  Both
cases of the same and different pairs should be permitted.

4.  I see no reason to say that what one is negotiating is a hash function.
What you are negotiating is a "Key Agreement w/ KDF" algorithm.  I don't see
that you are using the hash function by itself anywhere.

5.  In section 2, you should give a reason for including or not including
the nonces in the protocol.  Since they are optional when would they be
useful?

6. In section 2, do you expect that TCA is restricted to CEK or would MAC
algorithms be usable as well?

7.  In section 2, I missed where the replay parameter was included in the
COSE_Header - it seems to be in the key for party U and non-existant for
party V.  The closest that one comes it the use of the message_1 signature
as AAD.

8.  In figure 3, I would prefer to see two different traffic keys being
derived.  It is not an issue in Figure 2 as that just says keying material.
Using different keying material in each direction prevents reflection
attacks.

9.  In section 2.1, you talk about authentication methods but do not discuss
authorization methods.  Does this need to be built into message_1 or are
there other methods that will be functional here.  May need to refer to how
some of them might work since this will also potentially affect how the
distribution of the keys in advance works.  For example, if an OAUTH token
is published to a well-known location that contains both authorization and
authentication information.

10.  In section 3.1, I am not sure that you really want to have only a
single algorithm in this specification.  I would make it more generation in
terms of how a COSE_Key is built and then have a statement elsewhere rather
than spread throughout the document about what algorithms are mandatory to
support.

11.  In section 3.4.2 - I think that you need to have a more comprehensive
external_AAD structure that what is here.  I am not sure that you should not
AAD information from the CoAP header as well in all of the messages.

12. Stupid question - Can you do a PSK in one direction and a signature in
the other?

13. Not sure that it matters, but you have the COSE_KDF_Context structure
wrong everywhere.  The partyU and partyV fields are not optional.

14.  Section 3.5, I don't believe in uniquely identified kids on any device
unless that device is going to enforce that as a true statement.  That means
that it will not allow for a key to be registered with it unless the kid is
unique.    There is nothing wrong with doing an exhaustive search of all of
the keys with the same kid as long as the number of them is not too large.

15.  Section 3.5.3:  If you are sending along a certificate, it is not clear
to me that you need to have a kid as well.  The certificate is where you are
going to get the key from not the kid.

16. Section 4.1 - kid_eu - Does this really need to be a counter on a per
party V basis or can it just be a counter based on the use of the credential
that is being used to do the authentication? 

17.  Section 5 - what happens if N_U or N_V is longer than the size of the
hash function.  Also, what do you mean by the size of the hash function?  Is
this the barrel size or the output size?

18.  Identity of the Parties:  There is a question on what the identity
structure that is being used to grant access is for ACE.  For those who have
been in the IETF long enough, one answer would be to move back to the world
of SPKI (Simple Public Key Infrastructure) where the key is the entity that
is used for identifying an entity and not some other piece of information
like a text string or an address.  Doing a security analysis, one might find
that one wishes to do a binding of the identity information into the key
derivation process.  If keys are the marker of identity, then this is would
be including the keys as part of the context information thus tying the
signature and key into the resulting key.  The requirement to include
identity information is probably needed more if access control is being
based on a name rather than a key however.  In this case it is likely more
important that the binding processes is included in the KDF context in some
manner.

19.  Use of the signature/MAC for chaining of items:  I did a fast review of
how the fields of message_1 and message_2 are used in the final KDF
processing.  From what I saw, there are only a couple of things that are not
directly re-used as part of the context.  These are: 1) the exact encoding
of the messages, 2) the list of key agreement algorithms, 3) the list of TCA
algorithms, 4) kid_eu and kid_ev, and 5) the protected attributes in each of
the messages.

Exact encoding can be addressed by using the same encoding rules that are in
COSE - that is use of a minimal encoding size along with a stricter
statement bout checking the grammar in the processing rules.  
I am not worried about the two lists of algorithms as message_1 is
authenticated and the rules should state that the returned values in
message_2 are checked against the original list.  The final pair of
algorithms are either directly (TCA) or indirectly (Key agreement) included
in the computing of the traffic keys.
The KIDs might want to be included, and doing so would allow for generation
of different traffic keys in each direction.
The protected attributes should potentially be included in the computation
along with the keys to provide tying the identity and signatures together in
a tighter binding.  I don't know that there is an attack that can be
launched here, but this would make it that much more difficult.

Jim





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Hello,

I've noticed some minor things while trying to write code for CWTs:


1.) In section 5.1. it says:

"Create a CWT Claims Set containing the desired claims."

I'm pretty sure you meant a CBOR map of claims, because that is what you =

are showing in your examples.

2.) Also in section 5.1 it says:

"3.  Create a COSE Header containing the desired set of Header
      Parameters.  The CWT Header MUST be a valid according to the
      [I-D.ietf-cose-msg] specification."

Is it a COSE Header or a CWT Header you are referring to?

Also giving an example of what this header could look like would be nice.=



3.) In section 5.2. it says:

"5.  If the JOSE Header contains a "content type""

That should be COSE Header or CWT Header.


Regards,

Ludwig





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FYI.

=D4=DA 29/8/16 10:37 pm=A3=AC "NomCom Chair 2016" <nomcom-chair-2016@ietf.org> =D0=B4=C8=EB=
:

>Please forward on to your Working Groups -
>
>The 2016-17 Nominating Committee (Nomcom) is seeking nominations from
>now until October 8, 2016. The open positions being considered by this
>year's Nomcom can be found at the end of this email and also on this
>year's Nomcom website:
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2016/
>
>Nominations may be made by selecting the Nominate link at the top of
>the Nomcom 2016 home page, or by visiting the following URL:
>
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2016/nominate/
>
>  {Note that nominations made using the web tool require an ietf.org
>   datatracker account. You can create a datatracker ietf.org account
>   if you don't have one already by visiting the following URL:
>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/create/ }
>
>If you are unable to use the web form, nominations may instead be made
>by email to nomcom-16@ietf.org. If using email, please include the word
>"Nominate" in the Subject and indicate in the email who is being
>nominated, their email address (to confirm acceptance of the
>nomination), and the position for which you are making the nomination.
>If you are nominating someone other than yourself, please tell us if
>we may tell the nominee that you were the one who made the nomination.
>If you wish to nominate someone via email for more than one position,
>please use separate emails to do so.
>
>Self-nomination is welcome!
>
>Willing nominees will be asked to fill out a questionnaire
>specific to the position for which they are nominated.  The questionnaires
>will be available on September 2, 2016 and have a submission deadline of
>October 13, 2016.
>
>NomCom 2016-17 will follow the policy for "Open Disclosure of Willing
>Nominees" described in BCP 10/RFC 7437.  As stated in RFC 7437: "The
>list of nominees willing to be considered for positions under review
>in the current Nomcom cycle is not confidential". Willing nominees for
>each position will be listed in a publicly accessible way - anyone
>with a datatracker account may access the lists.  Additionally, the
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>nominee. In all other ways, the confidentiality requirements of BCP10
>remain in effect.  All feedback and all Nomcom deliberations will
>remain confidential and will not be disclosed.
>
>There is a field on the form you can mark in order to allow the Nomcom
>to tell the nominee that you were the one who made the
>nomination. This defaults to =A1=B0no=A1=B1 - so if you don't mark the field
>we won=A1=AFt tell.
>
>In order to ensure time to collect sufficient community feedback about
>each of the willing nominees, nominations must be received by the
>NomCom on or before October 8, 2016.
>
>Please submit your nominations as early as possible for the sake of
>your nominees. Note that nominations should not wait for management
>permission, as it is easier to decline the nomination than put one in
>late.
>
>The Nomcom appoints individuals to fill the open slots on the IAOC,
>the IAB, and the IESG. The list of people and posts whose terms end
>with the March 2017 IETF meeting, and thus the positions for which
>this Nomcom is responsible, follows:
>
>IAOC
>
>    Lou Berger
>
>IAB
>
>    Ralph Droms*
>    Russ Housley*
>    Robert Sparks
>    Andrew Sullivan
>    Dave Thaler*
>    Suzanne Woolf
>
>IESG
>
>    Jari Arkko (GEN)*
>    Deborah Brungard (RTG)
>    Ben Campbell (ART)
>    Spencer Dawkins (TSV)
>    Stephen Farrell (SEC)*
>    Joel Jaeggli (OPS)*
>    Terry Manderson (INT)
>    Alvaro Retana (RTG)
>
>*- have indicated that they do not intend to accept a
>renomination. This information is always up to date on
>https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2016/
>
>Please be resourceful in identifying possible candidates for these
>positions, as developing our talent is a very crucial requirement for
>the IETF, and also, please consider accepting a nomination.  You'll
>find extensive information about specific positions, developed by the
>IAB, IESG, and IAOC, under individual tabs at:
>
>  https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2016/requirements/
>
>In addition to nominations, the Nomcom seeks community input on the
>positions themselves.  We need and welcome the community's views and
>input on the jobs within each organization. If you have ideas on the
>positions' responsibilities (more, less, different), please let us
>know.
>
>Please send suggestions and feedback about this to nomcom-16@ietf.org.
>
>Thank you for your help in identifying qualified nominees!
>
>Lucy Lynch
>Nomcom Chair 2016-17
>nomcom-chair-2016@ietf.org
>llynch@civil-tongue.net



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Dear all,

As I promised during my presentation in the ACE WG meeting in Berlin, this =
is the correct link to draft-cuellar-ace-pat-priv-enhanced-authz-tokens pro=
totype source code:

https://gitlab.atosresearch.eu/ari/ACE-PAT-pub

Please, don't hesitate in contact me in case you have any doubt or problem.

With my best regards,


Daniel Calvo
Energy and Transport Market
Atos Research and Innovation
Tel: +34 946 66 20 82
daniel.calvo@atos.net<mailto:daniel.calvo@atos.net>
C/Real Consulado s/n,
Pol=EDgono Industrial Candina
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www.atosresearch.eu<http://www.atosresearch.eu/>



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Aunque se esfuerza al m=E1ximo por mantener su red libre de virus, el emiso=
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<div>Dear all,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>As I promised during my presentation in the ACE WG meeting in Berlin, =
this is the correct link to draft-cuellar-ace-pat-priv-enhanced-authz-token=
s prototype source code:</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><a href=3D"https://gitlab.atosresearch.eu/ari/ACE-PAT-pub"><font color=
=3D"blue"><u>https://gitlab.atosresearch.eu/ari/ACE-PAT-pub</u></font></a><=
/div>
<div><font color=3D"#1F497D">&nbsp;</font></div>
<div>Please, don&#8217;t hesitate in contact me in case you have any doubt =
or problem.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>With my best regards,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font color=3D"#1F497D"><img src=3D"cid:5152C1D233AE6B4B91F11A3377B02B=
30@mail.sis.atos.net"> </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;"><b>Da=
niel Calvo</b></span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1"><span style=3D"font-size:8pt;">Energ=
y and Transport Market</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1"><span style=3D"font-size:8pt;">Atos =
Research and Innovation</span></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1"><span style=3D"font-size:8pt;">Tel: =
&#43;34 946 66 20 82</span></font></div>
<div><a href=3D"mailto:daniel.calvo@atos.net"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=
=3D"1"><span style=3D"font-size:8pt;"><u>daniel.calvo@atos.net</u></span></=
font></a></div>
<div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1"><span style=3D"font-size:8pt;">C/Rea=
l Consulado s/n,<br>

Pol=EDgono Industrial Candina<br>

39011 Santander</span></font></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.atosresearch.eu/"><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D=
"1"><span style=3D"font-size:8pt;"><u>www.atosresearch.eu</u></span></font>=
</a></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><img src=3D"cid:2C9DF6CA2902574FA5496FEE8D86C9DF@mail.sis.atos.net"> <=
/div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Trebuchet MS" color=3D"#1F497D"><b>Feel free to download=
 our booklet at</b></font></div>
<div><a href=3D"http://atos.net/en-us/home/we-are/insights-innovation/resea=
rch-and-innovation.html"><font color=3D"blue"><u>http://atos.net/en-us/home=
/we-are/insights-innovation/research-and-innovation.html</u></font></a></di=
v>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1"><span style=3D"font-size:8pt;">This =
e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for =
the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in err=
or, please notify the sender immediately
and destroy it. <br>

As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Atos group liabilit=
y cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavor=
s to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant th=
at this transmission is virus-free
and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted=
. <br>

<br>

Este mensaje y los ficheros adjuntos pueden contener informaci=F3n confiden=
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<br>

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<br>

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mpromiso para el grupo Atos, salvo ratificaci=F3n escrita por ambas partes.
<br>

Aunque se esfuerza al m=E1ximo por mantener su red libre de virus, el emiso=
r no puede garantizar nada al respecto y no ser=E1 responsable de cualesqui=
era da=F1os que puedan resultar de una transmisi=F3n de virus. </span></fon=
t></div>
<div><font face=3D"Verdana" size=3D"1"><span style=3D"font-size:8pt;">This =
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or, please notify the sender immediately
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at this transmission is virus-free
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<br>

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<br>

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e hace responsable por su contenido. Su contenido no constituye ning=FAn co=
mpromiso para el grupo Atos, salvo ratificaci=F3n escrita por ambas partes.
<br>

Aunque se esfuerza al m=E1ximo por mantener su red libre de virus, el emiso=
r no puede garantizar nada al respecto y no ser=E1 responsable de cualesqui=
era da=F1os que puedan resultar de una transmisi=F3n de virus. </span></fon=
t></div>
<div><font color=3D"#1F497D">&nbsp;</font></div>
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See inline

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Ludwig Seitz <ludwig@sics.se> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've noticed some minor things while trying to write code for CWTs:
>
>
> 1.) In section 5.1. it says:
>
> "Create a CWT Claims Set containing the desired claims."
>
> I'm pretty sure you meant a CBOR map of claims, because that is what you
> are showing in your examples.
>

I would say that the CWT Claims Set is a CBOR map of claims. Is that
unclear? I would prefer not to change.


>
> 2.) Also in section 5.1 it says:
>
> "3.  Create a COSE Header containing the desired set of Header
>      Parameters.  The CWT Header MUST be a valid according to the
>      [I-D.ietf-cose-msg] specification."
>
> Is it a COSE Header or a CWT Header you are referring to?
>

One could argue either but I think we get less confusion by changing
according to your suggestion.
The COSE header is the header of the CWT i.e. a CWT header. in JOSE this
relation is closer then here


>
> Also giving an example of what this header could look like would be nice.
>
>
> 3.) In section 5.2. it says:
>
> "5.  If the JOSE Header contains a "content type""
>
> That should be COSE Header or CWT Header.
>

You are right


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<div dir=3D"ltr">See inline<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Ludwig Seitz <span dir=3D"lt=
r">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ludwig@sics.se" target=3D"_blank">ludwig@sics.se</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">H=
ello,<br>
<br>
I&#39;ve noticed some minor things while trying to write code for CWTs:<br>
<br>
<br>
1.) In section 5.1. it says:<br>
<br>
&quot;Create a CWT Claims Set containing the desired claims.&quot;<br>
<br>
I&#39;m pretty sure you meant a CBOR map of claims, because that is what yo=
u are showing in your examples.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would=
 say that the CWT Claims Set is a CBOR map of claims. Is that unclear? I wo=
uld prefer not to change.<br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
2.) Also in section 5.1 it says:<br>
<br>
&quot;3.=C2=A0 Create a COSE Header containing the desired set of Header<br=
>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Parameters.=C2=A0 The CWT Header MUST be a valid accord=
ing to the<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[I-D.ietf-cose-msg] specification.&quot;<br>
<br>
Is it a COSE Header or a CWT Header you are referring to?<br></blockquote><=
div><br></div><div>One could argue either but I think we get less confusion=
 by changing according to your suggestion.<br></div><div>The COSE header is=
 the header of the CWT i.e. a CWT header. in JOSE this relation is closer t=
hen here<br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">
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Also giving an example of what this header could look like would be nice.<b=
r>
<br>
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3.) In section 5.2. it says:<br>
<br>
&quot;5.=C2=A0 If the JOSE Header contains a &quot;content type&quot;&quot;=
<br>
<br>
That should be COSE Header or CWT Header.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><d=
iv>You are right<br>=C2=A0<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">
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<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
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