From exim@www1.ietf.org Wed Jan 7 17:38:42 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA10359 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeMJb-0006We-TU for adslmib-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:38:15 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i07McFMx025080 for adslmib-archive@odin.ietf.org; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:38:15 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeMJb-0006WR-PO for adslmib-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:38:15 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA10309 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:38:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeMJZ-0005Qp-00 for adslmib-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:38:13 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeMHd-0005HK-00 for adslmib-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:36:13 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeMGe-00052T-00 for adslmib-web-archive@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:35:12 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeMGT-0005r7-Lq; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:35:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeMG0-0005qW-Mj for adslmib@optimus.ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:34:32 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA09890 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 17:34:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeMFt-00051L-00 for adslmib@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:34:25 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeMAw-0004kE-00 for adslmib@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:29:19 -0500 Received: from bay10-f126.bay10.hotmail.com ([64.4.37.126] helo=hotmail.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeM67-0004WW-00 for adslmib@ietf.org; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:24:19 -0500 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 14:23:24 -0800 Received: from 66.152.60.98 by by10fd.bay10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Jan 2004 22:23:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [66.152.60.98] X-Originating-Email: [sneedmike@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sneedmike@hotmail.com From: "Michael Sneed" To: adslmib@ietf.org Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 17:23:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Jan 2004 22:23:24.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD5D9D70:01C3D56C] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by ietf.org id RAA09891 Subject: [Adslmib] FW: LS to IETF xDSL-MIB from ITU-T Q.2/15 Sender: adslmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: adslmib-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,DEAR_SOMETHING autolearn=no version=2.60 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ITU-T has sent a liason statement to the IETF regarding their use of the=20 IETF DSL MIBs. The text can be found at=20 http://www.ietf.org/IESG/liaison.html , titled "Liaison statement to IETF= =20 regarding translation of IETF xDSL MIBs for use with OMCI". >From: Paolo.Rosa@itu.int >To: sneedmike@hotmail.com, bwijnen@lucent.com >CC: statements@ietf.org, david.faulkner@ties.itu.int,=20 >jeff.truong@icn.siemens.com, julie_lorentzen@labs.sbc.com,=20 >wery@sympatico.ca, andrew.nunn@btinternet.com >Subject: LS to IETF xDSL-MIB from ITU-T Q.2/15 >Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:15:47 +0100 > >Dear Sirs, > >On behalf of the Chairman of the SG15, Mr. Peter Wery, I am pleased to s= end >you a Liaison Statement to IETF ADSL-MIB, as agreed by correspondence=20 >within >the Q.2/15 experts. > >Best regards, > >P. ROSA >TSB Counsellor >To SGs 6 and 15 > > > <> _________________________________________________________________ Expand your wine savvy =97 and get some great new recipes =97 at MSN Wine= .=20 http://wine.msn.com _______________________________________________ Adslmib mailing list Adslmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib From exim@www1.ietf.org Thu Jan 8 13:31:04 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA05385 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:31:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeevS-0006ur-DU for adslmib-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:30:34 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i08IUYIl026585 for adslmib-archive@odin.ietf.org; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:30:34 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeevS-0006ui-AD for adslmib-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:30:34 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA05337 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeevQ-0005CA-00 for adslmib-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:30:32 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeetZ-00056P-00 for adslmib-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:28:37 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aees0-00051M-00 for adslmib-web-archive@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:27:00 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1Aees0-0006cB-UD; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:27:00 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AeerW-0006bT-33 for adslmib@optimus.ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:26:30 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA05203 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 13:26:26 -0500 (EST) From: Menachem.Dodge@infineon.com Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeerU-0004y7-00 for adslmib@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:26:28 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AeepX-0004sD-00 for adslmib@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:24:28 -0500 Received: from smtp1.infineon.com ([194.175.117.76]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1Aeenh-0004kH-00 for adslmib@ietf.org; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:22:33 -0500 Received: from mucse012.eu.infineon.com (mucse012.ifx-mail1.com [172.29.27.229]) by smtp1.infineon.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i08II1Db027296; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:18:01 +0100 (MET) Received: by mucse012.eu.infineon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:21:59 +0100 Message-ID: To: sneedmike@hotmail.com, adslmib@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Adslmib] FW: LS to IETF xDSL-MIB from ITU-T Q.2/15 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2004 19:18:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: adslmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: adslmib-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.4 required=5.0 tests=DEAR_SOMETHING,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.60 Hi Mike, In your response, please inform the ITU-T that there is on-going work on the VDSL Extension MIBs. Regards, Menachem Dodge Infineon Technologies -----Original Message----- From: adslmib-admin@ietf.org [mailto:adslmib-admin@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sneed Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 12:23 AM To: adslmib@ietf.org Subject: [Adslmib] FW: LS to IETF xDSL-MIB from ITU-T Q.2/15 ITU-T has sent a liason statement to the IETF regarding their use of the IETF DSL MIBs. The text can be found at http://www.ietf.org/IESG/liaison.html , titled "Liaison statement to IETF regarding translation of IETF xDSL MIBs for use with OMCI". >From: Paolo.Rosa@itu.int >To: sneedmike@hotmail.com, bwijnen@lucent.com >CC: statements@ietf.org, david.faulkner@ties.itu.int, >jeff.truong@icn.siemens.com, julie_lorentzen@labs.sbc.com, >wery@sympatico.ca, andrew.nunn@btinternet.com >Subject: LS to IETF xDSL-MIB from ITU-T Q.2/15 >Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 16:15:47 +0100 > >Dear Sirs, > >On behalf of the Chairman of the SG15, Mr. Peter Wery, I am pleased to >send you a Liaison Statement to IETF ADSL-MIB, as agreed by >correspondence within the Q.2/15 experts. > >Best regards, > >P. ROSA >TSB Counsellor >To SGs 6 and 15 > > > <> _________________________________________________________________ Expand your wine savvy - and get some great new recipes - at MSN Wine. http://wine.msn.com _______________________________________________ Adslmib mailing list Adslmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib _______________________________________________ Adslmib mailing list Adslmib@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib From exim@www1.ietf.org Tue Jan 27 13:47:25 2004 Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA17868 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlYEj-0002Si-81 for adslmib-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:46:57 -0500 Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i0RIkv2r009460 for adslmib-archive@odin.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:46:57 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlYEj-0002SV-4g for adslmib-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:46:57 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id NAA17850 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:46:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlYEg-0006KJ-00 for adslmib-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:46:54 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AlYDn-0006HF-00 for adslmib-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:46:00 -0500 Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AlYCs-0006E7-00 for adslmib-web-archive@ietf.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:45:02 -0500 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AlYCr-0001uz-Lk; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:45:01 -0500 Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AiU5C-0008Br-1O for adslmib@optimus.ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:44:26 -0500 Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id CAA04380 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:44:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AiU58-00008L-00 for adslmib@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:44:22 -0500 Received: from exim by ietf-mx with spam-scanned (Exim 4.12) id 1AiU4C-00006F-00 for adslmib@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:43:25 -0500 Received: from mail.extel.com.au ([203.94.160.3] helo=server2.extel.com.au) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AiU3v-00003x-00 for adslmib@ietf.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 02:43:07 -0500 Received: by SERVER2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:42:51 +1100 Message-ID: <257FD1F0FF27504780EB0569C17A86341ED9D5@email.extel.com.au> From: Matt Beanland To: "'adslmib@ietf.org'" Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:42:27 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3DE5F.D774F3B2" Subject: [Adslmib] RFC3276 interpretation - line rate in 4-wire mode Sender: adslmib-admin@ietf.org Errors-To: adslmib-admin@ietf.org X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12 Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: , List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on ietf-mx.ietf.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=AWL,EXCUSE_16,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE,TRACKER_ID autolearn=no version=2.60 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DE5F.D774F3B2 Content-Type: text/plain Hi all, We have a 4-wire implementation of SHDSL using RFC3276 and have a question whether the MIB items: hdsl2ShdslStatusMaxAttainableLineRate hdsl2ShdslStatusActualLineRate hdsl2ShdslSpanConfMinLineRate hdsl2ShdslSpanConfMaxLineRate apply individually to all wire pairs in the SHDSL span, or are for the total? These items have a range of 0..4112000 b/s. As such, they appear to lack the upper range for 4-wire operation according to ITU G.991.2 section E.9.2.1, which allows operation up to 2 * (36*64+8) = 4624 kb/s. Thanks for any assistance, Matt Beanland Extel Communications 399 Ferntree Gully Road, Mt Waverley, Victoria 3149, Australia Ph: +613 8542 9259 Fax: +613 8542 9299 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The information contained in this message and any attachments is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s). If you have received this message in error, please contact sender by return e-mail and destroy the message and any attachments. Any opinions or undertakings expressed in this message are those of the individual sender except where the sender expressly and with authority states them to be the opinions of Extel. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DE5F.D774F3B2 Content-Type: text/html

Hi all,

 

We have a 4-wire implementation of SHDSL using RFC3276 and have a question whether the MIB items:

 

hdsl2ShdslStatusMaxAttainableLineRate
hdsl2ShdslStatusActualLineRate
hdsl2ShdslSpanConfMinLineRate

hdsl2ShdslSpanConfMaxLineRate

 

apply individually to all wire pairs in the SHDSL span, or are for the total?

 

These items have a range of 0..4112000 b/s. As such, they appear to lack the upper range for 4-wire operation according to ITU G.991.2 section E.9.2.1, which allows operation up to 2 * (36*64+8) = 4624 kb/s.

 

Thanks for any assistance,

 

Matt Beanland

Extel Communications
399 Ferntree Gully Road, Mt Waverley, Victoria 3149, Australia
Ph: +613 8542 9259 Fax: +613 8542 9299

 


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