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<20120312234806.30332.30045.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:48:06 -0700 Cc: adslmib@ietf.org Subject: [Adslmib] I-D Action: draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10.txt X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:48:07 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the ADSL MIB Working Group of the IETF. Title : xDSL multi-pair bonding (G.Bond) MIB Author(s) : Edward Beili Moti Morgenstern Filename : draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10.txt Pages : 70 Date : 2012-03-12 This document defines Management Information Base (MIB) module for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP-based internets. This document proposes an extension to the Interfaces Group MIB with a set of common objects for managing multi-pair bonded Digital Subscriber Line (xDSL) interfaces, defined in ITU-T recommendations G.998.1, G.998.2 and G.998.3. The MIB modules specific to each bonding technology are defined in G9981-MIB, G9982-MIB and G9983-MIB respectively. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10.txt From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Mar 12 16:49:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA1221E8277; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:49:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KRQyfIUJmalQ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A071921E826D; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:49:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.00 Message-ID: <20120312234954.31783.56819.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:49:54 -0700 Cc: adslmib@ietf.org Subject: [Adslmib] I-D Action: draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:49:55 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the ADSL MIB Working Group of the IETF. Title : ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces MIB Author(s) : Edward Beili Filename : draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt Pages : 33 Date : 2012-03-12 This document defines Management Information Base (MIB) module for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP based networks. This document proposes an extension to the GBOND-MIB module with a set of objects for managing ATM-based multi-pair bonded xDSL interfaces, defined in ITU-T recommendation G.998.1. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Mar 12 16:51:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA3621E8287; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:51:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R7XgIvx8B9ka; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D491221E826E; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:51:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.00 Message-ID: <20120312235123.32736.37576.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:51:23 -0700 Cc: adslmib@ietf.org Subject: [Adslmib] I-D Action: draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-eth-mib-06.txt X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:51:24 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the ADSL MIB Working Group of the IETF. Title : Ethernet-based xDSL multi-pair bonding (G.Bond/Ethernet)= MIB Author(s) : Edward Beili Moti Morgenstern Filename : draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-eth-mib-06.txt Pages : 53 Date : 2012-03-12 This document defines Management Information Base (MIB) module for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP based internets. This document proposes an extension to the GBOND-MIB module with a set of objects for managing Ethernet-based multi-pair bonded xDSL interfaces, defined in ITU-T recommendation G.998.2. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-eth-mib-06.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-eth-mib-06.txt From internet-drafts@ietf.org Mon Mar 12 16:52:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0E721E8294; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:52:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.585 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.585 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.014, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mE8HYlzNiCwY; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF10621E828C; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:52:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.00 Message-ID: <20120312235239.931.33595.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:52:39 -0700 Cc: adslmib@ietf.org Subject: [Adslmib] I-D Action: draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-tdim-mib-08.txt X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:52:41 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director= ies. This draft is a work item of the ADSL MIB Working Group of the IETF. Title : xDSL multi-pair bonding using Time-Division Inverse Mult= iplexing (G.Bond/TDIM) MIB Author(s) : Edward Beili Filename : draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-tdim-mib-08.txt Pages : 54 Date : 2012-03-12 This document defines Management Information Base (MIB) module for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP based internets. This document proposes an extension to the GBOND-MIB module with a set of objects for managing multi-pair bonded xDSL interfaces using Time-Division Inverse Multiplexing (TDIM), defined in ITU-T recommendation G.998.3. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-tdim-mib-08.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-tdim-mib-08.txt From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Mar 19 11:48:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F9121F8872; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9+DILYfz5eCx; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FAC621F8895; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.00 Message-ID: <20120319184832.23890.59293.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:48:32 -0700 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:17:19 -0700 Cc: adslmib mailing list , adslmib chair , RFC Editor Subject: [Adslmib] Protocol Action: 'ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces MIB' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt) X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:48:33 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces MIB' (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the ADSL MIB Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ronald Bonica. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib/ Technical Summary This document defines Management Information Base (MIB) module for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP based networks. This document proposes an extension to the GBOND-MIB module with a set of objects for managing ATM-based multi-pair bonded xDSL interfaces, defined in ITU-T recommendation G.998.1. Working Group Summary The WG process was smooth with no real controversies. All work took place on the mailing list. Document Quality No information is available about implementations. Personnel Menachem Dodge is the Document Shepherd for this document Dan Romascanu is the Responsible Area Director. From iesg-secretary@ietf.org Mon Mar 19 11:52:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C8D21E800C; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:52:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.000, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4fEJDAnpg9iP; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE7D21E801A; Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 4.00 Message-ID: <20120319185221.25114.53848.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 11:52:21 -0700 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:17:19 -0700 Cc: adslmib mailing list , adslmib chair , RFC Editor Subject: [Adslmib] Protocol Action: 'xDSL multi-pair bonding using Time-Division Inverse Multiplexing (G.Bond/TDIM) MIB' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-tdim-mib-08.txt) X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 18:52:22 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'xDSL multi-pair bonding using Time-Division Inverse Multiplexing (G.Bond/TDIM) MIB' (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-tdim-mib-08.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the ADSL MIB Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ronald Bonica. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-tdim-mib/ Technical Summary This document defines Management Information Base (MIB) module for use with network management protocols in TCP/IP based internets. This document proposes an extension to the GBOND-MIB module with a set of objects for managing multi-pair bonded xDSL interfaces using Time-Division Inverse Multiplexing (TDIM), defined in ITU-T recommendation G.998.3. Working Group Summary The WG process was smooth with no real controversies. All work took place on the mailing list. Document Quality No information is available about implementations. Personnel Menachem Dodge is the Document Shepherd for this document Dan Romascanu is the Responsible Area Director. From dromasca@avaya.com Wed Mar 21 05:44:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E201521F85AF; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 05:44:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.066 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.066 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.067, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_32=0.6, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0+vEiScMveZd; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 05:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com (co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.13.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B60C21F85A3; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 05:44:42 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFAOvMaU/GmAcF/2dsb2JhbABEtn2BB4IJAQEBAQMBAQEPHgo0CwwEAgEIDQQEAQELBgwHBAEGASYfCQgBAQQBEggah2gLm1GcJZAeYwSbbooYgmg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,623,1325480400"; d="scan'208";a="338138238" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by co300216-co-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2012 08:44:41 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2012 08:36:21 -0400 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:44:38 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20120319184832.23890.59293.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Adslmib] Protocol Action: 'ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces MIB'to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt) Thread-Index: Ac0GrI2p6frAkN9fRGqtt3tIBnGp1wAs5ICQ References: <20120319184832.23890.59293.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "The IESG" , "IETF-Announce" Cc: adslmib mailing list , adslmib chair , RFC Editor Subject: Re: [Adslmib] Protocol Action: 'ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces MIB'to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt) X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:44:44 -0000 Special thanks to our editor and congratulations to the chair and the whole WG for having two of the final set of four documents approved by the IESG. Hopefully we will be able to get the other two documents in the next few days or weeks, and successfully conclude the work on ADSL MIB in the IETF.=20 Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: adslmib-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:adslmib-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of The IESG > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:49 PM > To: IETF-Announce > Cc: adslmib mailing list; adslmib chair; RFC Editor > Subject: [Adslmib] Protocol Action: 'ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces > MIB'to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt) >=20 > The IESG has approved the following document: > - 'ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces MIB' > (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt) as a Proposed Standard >=20 > This document is the product of the ADSL MIB Working Group. >=20 > The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ronald Bonica. >=20 > A URL of this Internet Draft is: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib/ >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Technical Summary >=20 > This document defines Management Information Base (MIB) module for > use with network management protocols in TCP/IP based networks. > This > document proposes an extension to the GBOND-MIB module with a set of > objects for managing ATM-based multi-pair bonded xDSL interfaces, > defined in ITU-T recommendation G.998.1. >=20 > Working Group Summary >=20 > The WG process was smooth with no real controversies. > All work took place on the mailing list. >=20 > Document Quality >=20 > No information is available about implementations. >=20 > Personnel >=20 > Menachem Dodge is the Document Shepherd for this document > Dan Romascanu is the Responsible Area Director. >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Adslmib mailing list > Adslmib@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib From dromasca@avaya.com Wed Mar 21 06:28:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7A721F85AF for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:28:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.367 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.367 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.232, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nWf09RkDgJl2 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com (de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com [198.152.71.100]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D2821F85CE for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2012 06:28:21 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EACPWaU/GmAcF/2dsb2JhbABEtn+BB4ILAQEDEh4KPxIBFRUGDAwHVwEEGxqHaJt6nCWQHmMEm26KGIJo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.73,624,1325480400"; d="scan'208";a="298188695" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by de307622-de-outbound.net.avaya.com with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2012 09:28:20 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 21 Mar 2012 09:19:59 -0400 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:28:15 +0100 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: two questions on draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 Thread-Index: Ac0HZniWubaiCx7TTZmIvIcum65gdQ== From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Edward Beili" Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk, adslmib mailing list Subject: [Adslmib] two questions on draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:28:22 -0000 Hi Ed, The I-D draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 was approved by the IESG with 'point raised'. This means that I would like to get clarification from you (and the WG if needed) on a couple of points before approving the document.=20 The two questions derive from the COMMENT entered by Adrian Farrel. They are non-blocking from his perspective, yet I think that they are interesting enough to deserve being answered, even if they do not lead to changes in the document.=20 1. How likely is it that new bonding schemes (i.e. other technologies) will come along and be handled by this MIB module without extensions? I think the intention is that this module is technology- independent, so that it would not need to be revised for a new bonding type. However, GBondSchemeList and GBondScheme are closed lists such that you would need to revise the module to support new technologies. That seems a shame. You could move the TCs into a separate module so that only that module needs to be revised. An alternative, is to define an IANA Textual convention for this and allow just the TC to be updated as necessary. =20 --- =20 2. I find the presence of 'unknown' as a bit in GBondSchemeList to be a bit odd. In general, bits in an object with a Syntax of Bits can be=20 independently set. But here you could not set 'unknown' and any of the other bits. On the other hand, what would it mean to return the object with none of the bits set? Is that different from returning the 'unknown' bit? Please address these two questions.=20 Thanks and Regards, Dan From Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com Mon Mar 26 10:21:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B186321E80E5 for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:21:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.300, BAYES_00=-2.599, J_CHICKENPOX_32=0.6, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zYDYCrBoHm5B for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.bemta4.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta4.messagelabs.com [85.158.143.242]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31F121E80BC for ; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [85.158.143.35:9483] by server-1.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 60/CC-20925-C95A07F4; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:21:32 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com X-Msg-Ref: server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com!1332782485!13738242!4 X-Originating-IP: [147.234.242.234] X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- Received: (qmail 7132 invoked from network); 26 Mar 2012 17:21:30 -0000 Received: from ilptbmg01-out.ecitele.com (HELO ilptbmg01-out.ecitele.com) (147.234.242.234) by server-8.tower-21.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 26 Mar 2012 17:21:30 -0000 X-AuditID: 93eaf2e7-b7f976d000000ef3-ae-4f70b0633b26 Received: from ILPTEXCH02.ecitele.com ( [147.234.245.181]) by ilptbmg01-out.ecitele.com (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id D8.86.03827.360B07F4; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:07:31 +0200 (IST) Received: from ILPTMAIL02.ecitele.com ([147.234.244.212]) by ILPTEXCH02.ecitele.com ([147.234.245.181]) with mapi; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:21:27 +0200 From: Menachem Dodge To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , "Benoit Claise (bclaise@cisco.com)" , adslmib mailing list Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:21:26 +0200 Thread-Topic: [Adslmib] Protocol Action: 'ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces MIB'to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt) Thread-Index: Ac0GrI2p6frAkN9fRGqtt3tIBnGp1wAs5ICQAQJL8fA= Message-ID: <283DD79798619346BF9B17D7B5035A1901850DB038E1@ILPTMAIL02.ecitele.com> References: <20120319184832.23890.59293.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA2VTa0gUURjl7uyu42NiXLW9bhbT2NtWdrFo0wwrAiNKS8GMUqfd2+7g7syw s0ZG0EJFZGVPKi3ajM0Xlo+0hIpQstCgxEJK0hYTRO1HSfnoZTMNmdH8OvOdc75z7+X7cEzX rzXgLOdBbo5x0toQ9fnh0c9GW52QZhpvxix9T55rLG3voeXL5IQmBUttqboalHrhW70m1e+f VKVjO71gDcNxvIfxIMqGRGsyne5m9zHWQppibcm0maYEJ2NFLsR5kmlGEBBno9eGUP99ayQZ y1GIs/I2lrMn05sy0owWy8rVRjO9dlGsOSEpJNPBihQyuhjWSbmQKDJ2REmVvEbM4a/o1git 8/d/P/o0yAtOzykCwTgkV8CSZw1AwbNhZ1+tVsY68hGAz8v0RSBEwhcBvN/rCyoCOK4lzXDg XKhcjySrAOy5+eO3WU0uhF2Bz2oZR5DFAA4/zFZEpwFs9zf/7hpJJsKJ7oEgGRPkNugN9KqU hBMADta81soJwWQmLO/aKWuAdKLxjhqVjDFSD3sGfCrlpCT0P3iBKTgKDr3/qVH0UfDtsVqg 6JfD6/dHtQqOg+VlI5iSGw7bSwbUijcatlS+Vp8Bs0tnRJTOsJfOsJfOsF8H6moQxToFzx6X 3WSOR1bWg5wo3sq7GoAyIYPN4KtvQSsgcUCHER+rhDSdhtknFrpaQTSuoqMI3i+VZu3hbYUO RnTkugucSGwFEMfoSOJbqMQRNqbwAHLzfyiL9MxnMUOolZdmkfPkJphM//zQeqLCm5WmI+3S pOUjJCD3H2sMjtOQ+CQnhruRHe3fyzo9f2kVHiwnh0nJx2UNIQqMS2TtCt8BjPjdzmsvgU7N 8Rwy6IluWUTKIkcBN91HXo1DU1NTw0Av3TmCeCurwqTFme40LIWopBD/Y14OkTZimjJ4gZY/ ebAgULwuRkO0MXVN+NK6h8evvLhn+TTaF0iIb8zMyXJadd0TP15lpxzG74zsbrxRWZ9dblpC 7dh4aSTJ17LrVJL5Q3+XMHfxvKaGREPPkvx3hzdsuRxXu/1N25GKrYmbh26HX8FX9Vavz8gf mzPWlDQ2d3msL7ozcCsP9efAGFotOhjzMswtMr8AtthYt/UDAAA= Subject: Re: [Adslmib] Protocol Action: 'ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces MIB'to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt) X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:21:35 -0000 Hello, I wish to thank you, Dan, for all your help and advice that you have provide= d to me as chair, and to the editors and the working group as a whole, in yo= ur capacity as AD. Thank you for all your hard work and for being there whenever we sought your= assistance. I wish you, all the very best in your future endeavors. Benoit, I extend to you a warm welcome and look forward to working together= with you. In addition to the G.Bond MIBs, there is an outstanding item on the WG chart= er, namely the Vectoring of Profiles MIB, the charter reads as follows: "The working group will develop a set of managed objects as an optional extension to RFC 5650 that shall provide an alternative approach, known as the "Vector of Profiles", for the configuration of DSL lines. The Vector of Profiles MIB will be based on the Broadband Forum TR-165 document. The ITU-T G.997.1 will also be considered in the definition of this extension." The Broadband Forum requested this MIB to be developed in a liaison some two= years ago, but also warned that work on a revision of TR-129 and TR-165 was= underway. My understanding is that this work at the Broadband Forum is now reaching c= ompletion. The question that I put to the Working Group is, whether there is still inte= rest in developing the optional extension to RFC 5650. In addition to showing your interest please also indicate your willingness t= o participate in developing the MIB, as an editor or reviewer, and whether y= ou or your company are likely to implement/deploy the MIB if it is develope= d. Thank you kindly. Best Regards, Menachem -----Original Message----- From: adslmib-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:adslmib-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf O= f Romascanu, Dan (Dan) Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:45 PM To: The IESG; IETF-Announce Cc: adslmib mailing list; adslmib chair; RFC Editor Subject: Re: [Adslmib] Protocol Action: 'ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces MI= B'to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt) Special thanks to our editor and congratulations to the chair and the whole= WG for having two of the final set of four documents approved by the IESG.= Hopefully we will be able to get the other two documents in the next few da= ys or weeks, and successfully conclude the work on ADSL MIB in the IETF. Regards, Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: adslmib-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:adslmib-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of The IESG > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:49 PM > To: IETF-Announce > Cc: adslmib mailing list; adslmib chair; RFC Editor > Subject: [Adslmib] Protocol Action: 'ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces > MIB'to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt) > > The IESG has approved the following document: > - 'ATM-Based xDSL Bonded Interfaces MIB' > (draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib-06.txt) as a Proposed Standard > > This document is the product of the ADSL MIB Working Group. > > The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ronald Bonica. > > A URL of this Internet Draft is: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-atm-mib/ > > > > > Technical Summary > > This document defines Management Information Base (MIB) module for > use with network management protocols in TCP/IP based networks. > This > document proposes an extension to the GBOND-MIB module with a set of > objects for managing ATM-based multi-pair bonded xDSL interfaces, > defined in ITU-T recommendation G.998.1. > > Working Group Summary > > The WG process was smooth with no real controversies. > All work took place on the mailing list. > > Document Quality > > No information is available about implementations. > > Personnel > > Menachem Dodge is the Document Shepherd for this document > Dan Romascanu is the Responsible Area Director. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Adslmib mailing list > Adslmib@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib _______________________________________________ Adslmib mailing list Adslmib@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains informat= ion which is CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If yo= u have received this transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phon= e or fax, and then delete the original and all copies thereof. From dromasca@avaya.com Wed Mar 28 02:00:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BD021F89AF for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:00:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.875 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.875 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.276, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TCSl7Ss6cobw for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com (p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com [135.11.29.13]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C648B21F899B for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:00:23 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAFADrSck/GmAcF/2dsb2JhbABCuHaBB4IJAQEBAQMBAQEPHgo0CwwEAgEIDQQEAQELBgwLAQYBJh8JCAEBBAEJCQgah2gLogaUNQSQL2MEm3KKHIJp X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,330,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="1681871" Received: from unknown (HELO co300216-co-erhwest.avaya.com) ([198.152.7.5]) by p-us1-iereast-outbound.us1.avaya.com with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2012 05:00:22 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO 307622ANEX5.global.avaya.com) ([135.64.140.13]) by co300216-co-erhwest-out.avaya.com with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2012 04:51:40 -0400 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:00:19 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [Adslmib] two questions on draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 Thread-Index: Ac0HZniWubaiCx7TTZmIvIcum65gdQFWl7HA References: From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" , "Edward Beili" Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk, adslmib mailing list Subject: Re: [Adslmib] two questions on draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:00:26 -0000 I do not think that I saw answers to these questions yet. As I am transferring today my yellow dot and AD responsibilities to Benoit, this document together with eth-mib transfer to him, and hopefully the remaining issues will be quickly answered.=20 Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: adslmib-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:adslmib-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 3:28 PM > To: Edward Beili > Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; adslmib mailing list > Subject: [Adslmib] two questions on draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 >=20 > Hi Ed, >=20 > The I-D draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 was approved by the IESG with > 'point raised'. This means that I would like to get clarification from > you (and the WG if needed) on a couple of points before approving the > document. >=20 > The two questions derive from the COMMENT entered by Adrian Farrel. > They > are non-blocking from his perspective, yet I think that they are > interesting enough to deserve being answered, even if they do not lead > to changes in the document. >=20 > 1. How likely is it that new bonding schemes (i.e. other > technologies) will come along and be handled by this MIB module without > extensions? I think the intention is that this module is technology- > independent, so that it would not need to be revised for a new bonding > type. >=20 > However, GBondSchemeList and GBondScheme are closed lists such that you > would need to revise the module to support new technologies. That seems > a shame. >=20 > You could move the TCs into a separate module so that only that module > needs to be revised. >=20 > An alternative, is to define an IANA Textual convention for this and > allow just the TC to be updated as necessary. >=20 > --- >=20 > 2. I find the presence of 'unknown' as a bit in GBondSchemeList to be a > bit > odd. In general, bits in an object with a Syntax of Bits can be > independently set. But here you could not set 'unknown' and any of the > other bits. >=20 > On the other hand, what would it mean to return the object with none of > the bits set? Is that different from returning the 'unknown' bit? >=20 > Please address these two questions. >=20 > Thanks and Regards, >=20 > Dan >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Adslmib mailing list > Adslmib@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib From Moti.Morgenstern@ecitele.com Wed Mar 28 02:37:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F63421F88E0 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:37:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.202 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IokpMlFOtI72 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:37:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.bemta3.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta3.messagelabs.com [195.245.230.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E981621F88A9 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [85.158.138.51:19975] by server-7.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 50/D6-07528-ECBD27F4; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:37:18 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Moti.Morgenstern@ecitele.com X-Msg-Ref: server-5.tower-174.messagelabs.com!1332927438!19687255!1 X-Originating-IP: [168.87.1.157] X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- Received: (qmail 32418 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2012 09:37:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fridlpvsb005.ecitele.com) (168.87.1.157) by server-5.tower-174.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 28 Mar 2012 09:37:18 -0000 X-AuditID: a8571406-b7f606d000006c05-bd-4f72dbd1c3ac Received: from FRGRWPVCH001.ecitele.com (frgrwpvch001.ecitele.com [10.1.18.35]) by fridlpvsb005.ecitele.com (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 58.0F.27653.1DBD27F4; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:37:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from FRIDWPPMB002.ecitele.com ([169.254.4.167]) by FRGRWPVCH001.ecitele.com ([10.1.18.35]) with mapi id 14.01.0339.001; Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:37:17 +0200 From: Moti Morgenstern To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" Thread-Topic: [Adslmib] two questions on draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 Thread-Index: Ac0HZniWubaiCx7TTZmIvIcum65gdQFWl7HAAAAtpqA= Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:37:16 +0000 Message-ID: <26A039154CECA44E8863CBD1F1D9B2F102F263@FRIDWPPMB002.ecitele.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.5.41.29] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA2VTf2wLURz3etfrrXrLqdGnWTgn/GE2XZiU6EIi1B+UmV/7h9O+tRftte66 RQUp4lezMITYwjZJJ8OY3xGT0DFhfm/ERiboDFsIC6HIuHM1E/fHy+e9z+fzPu/77vtIzPiN MJO8EESiwHlZQo/rwQBzZvNT0WE51m6wfi1pxazPrt/VWj8nvmqtN7e+003D7fXt1wl77MgB nT0aTWjsNWeOgHl4QRhM5QTBH+SCiHEhyWlj54l8MecMsQzvsrHZLBPwck7kQ0LQxnKBABJc bK6e+e+bKst4gUGC0+/iBbeNnb3AkWm15kzOzGZz8z28xKBMH8d7GR+SJM6NGHlFqUBwLT+B eX62VRKBTnZ1W+17TRhUpEdACgnpibD0ynNMxUPh/Wd1RAToSSP9EMCS5ovJSTWALSeqgaIi 6Bz4qadOo+A0ejz8uL/2txuj18PE4xqdggfTs+CGpu1JjR027ksk8RTY270JVzBOj4Ylp68S CqboObB9V0Snhh0EcGM8oo0Akkyh8+G2DQsUDZBP96WpVqNmmeCTjkqNemoaRi/dS1YwBL6N 92pVPBx279ib1I+DVfU9hIoz4OFD3ZiaOwjeLOvAVf0wGKtpxUuBqbxfRHk/e3k/e3k/exXA jwJYKPIub6BYWmGx5GQhJx9EXpTl9PtOA7l3ahanERdAuDSrAdAkYA0UM0B0GLVcsRTyNYBh pIYdQo1pk5dSV/hdIQ8neZaJRV4kNQBIYmwalVGwymGkXFxoDRL9fyirfIm7MPNAp1/5x8Fl EyyWfyasiarLy3UYabfceCsRCiDxjzWdJFlIaeVmNg4SkRutLuS9wb+0hkxRkg1y8pUnsoaS ApxP4t0q3wQyyPP3K1oAueWRPBpxwS8gs4l6o0hpReopEvp26wImueLB1CuFNcjt2LdPlxyh kSOi1/xKhPw8+ihzGOTF8ue0jv2xfZVN7Pwxc7431SHcGjn/pK+zQNdzLtq9uDpuWJqa933d 9OaF2CRT2eud2143bN4Ujtt0Z9cdn9sMnn64XZ8+g5tJFlYuKRp1cVFL0UHyzuafjbFE/oRI Y/DyjV59Z8GDk2/XxmOXq150TDwbejnilLhb2NM7t2y8JbWLxSUPlz0WEyXuF/2KpdQNBAAA Cc: "adrian@olddog.co.uk" , adslmib mailing list , Edward Beili Subject: Re: [Adslmib] two questions on draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:37:21 -0000 Hi Dan, I previously didn't send my opinion as the 'To' list included Ed alone. However, if it matters, the following is (briefly) my answer to those questi= ons. 1) New Bonding Schemes Each new scheme will probably require developing a MIB for it. The 'common'= MIB module is not expected to be modified too much, but it's obvious that i= t would not be left untouched. As a minimum, every component that currently= mentions the existing bonding schemes will need to mention the 'new' scheme= as well. I mean, shouldn't the MIB document describe its applicability to t= he 'new' scheme and indicate the reference standard? Shouldn't the edge devi= ces exchange their capability to support that scheme? Etc. 2) GBondSchemeList I think that it's up to the implementation to decide whether or not it wishe= s to distinguish between a device that explicitly reports it doesn't support= any of the 3 standard schemes and a device that simply didn't report so far= its capability. The value 0 may be sufficient for both (because in both cas= es it's impossible for the edge devices to agree on a scheme at the moment)= and then the optional value 'none' won't be supported. BTW, we are familiar with textual conventions for failures/alarms in which t= he value 0 means: 'no problem' while there are other TCs in which the 'no pr= oblem' is allocated its own bit-position, correct?. Best Regards (and good luck in your future projects), Moti -----Original Message----- From: adslmib-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:adslmib-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf O= f Romascanu, Dan (Dan) Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:00 AM To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Edward Beili Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; adslmib mailing list Subject: Re: [Adslmib] two questions on draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 I do not think that I saw answers to these questions yet. As I am transferri= ng today my yellow dot and AD responsibilities to Benoit, this document toge= ther with eth-mib transfer to him, and hopefully the remaining issues will b= e quickly answered. Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: adslmib-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:adslmib-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 3:28 PM > To: Edward Beili > Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; adslmib mailing list > Subject: [Adslmib] two questions on draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 > > Hi Ed, > > The I-D draft-ietf-adslmib-gbond-mib-10 was approved by the IESG with > 'point raised'. This means that I would like to get clarification from > you (and the WG if needed) on a couple of points before approving the > document. > > The two questions derive from the COMMENT entered by Adrian Farrel. > They > are non-blocking from his perspective, yet I think that they are > interesting enough to deserve being answered, even if they do not lead > to changes in the document. > > 1. How likely is it that new bonding schemes (i.e. other > technologies) will come along and be handled by this MIB module without > extensions? I think the intention is that this module is technology- > independent, so that it would not need to be revised for a new bonding > type. > > However, GBondSchemeList and GBondScheme are closed lists such that you > would need to revise the module to support new technologies. That seems > a shame. > > You could move the TCs into a separate module so that only that module > needs to be revised. > > An alternative, is to define an IANA Textual convention for this and > allow just the TC to be updated as necessary. > > --- > > 2. I find the presence of 'unknown' as a bit in GBondSchemeList to be a > bit > odd. In general, bits in an object with a Syntax of Bits can be > independently set. But here you could not set 'unknown' and any of the > other bits. > > On the other hand, what would it mean to return the object with none of > the bits set? Is that different from returning the 'unknown' bit? > > Please address these two questions. > > Thanks and Regards, > > Dan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Adslmib mailing list > Adslmib@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib _______________________________________________ Adslmib mailing list Adslmib@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/adslmib This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains informat= ion which is CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If yo= u have received this transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phon= e or fax, and then delete the original and all copies thereof. From Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com Thu Mar 29 08:09:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: adslmib@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE6521F880D for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:09:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.016 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.016 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.815, BAYES_00=-2.599, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fITA5erAuAHQ for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:09:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail1.bemta4.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta4.messagelabs.com [85.158.143.242]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D2C721F880C for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [85.158.143.99:27137] by server-2.bemta-4.messagelabs.com id 91/F3-17550-F2B747F4; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:09:35 +0000 X-Env-Sender: Menachem.Dodge@ecitele.com X-Msg-Ref: server-12.tower-216.messagelabs.com!1333033773!16196484!3 X-Originating-IP: [147.234.242.234] X-StarScan-Version: 6.5.7; banners=-,-,- Received: (qmail 9789 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2012 15:09:35 -0000 Received: from ilptbmg01-out.ecitele.com (HELO ilptbmg01-out.ecitele.com) (147.234.242.234) by server-12.tower-216.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2012 15:09:35 -0000 X-AuditID: 93eaf2e7-b7f976d000000ef3-cc-4f7485e3620c Received: from ilptexch01.ecitele.com ( [172.31.244.40]) by ilptbmg01-out.ecitele.com (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 81.3E.03827.3E5847F4; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:55:16 +0200 (IST) Received: from ILPTMAIL02.ecitele.com ([147.234.244.212]) by ilptexch01.ecitele.com ([172.31.244.40]) with mapi; Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:09:33 +0200 From: Menachem Dodge To: adslmib mailing list , "Benoit Claise (bclaise@cisco.com)" Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:09:32 +0200 Thread-Topic: [Adslmib] Call for interest in developing the Vectoring of Profiles MIB Thread-Index: Ac0Nu3/QQjdpxdKeRi+BXGCUJEMRaw== Message-ID: <283DD79798619346BF9B17D7B5035A1901850DCF7E79@ILPTMAIL02.ecitele.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA2VTW0zTUBjOWbeuTErKZO5AiFnqBZGLLBMd4oiJRvFp4A28JFq249a4dXMt 6HgRo0Qk0QCiRpwCOm+IErwQo2JkikaiQPQF1BgCGATDg0SDaAK2FBBjH5rvnO/7/u9v8/8E pv2AxxAsJyAfx7hoXKM8NTTyPam/WLCmNJ8kzJ9etKvMrX3Q/GPsp2oNltlyI6DOrPzdqMoM BscUWdiOIrCa4TiPwAjIYEe8zUJn+dgCxuanDazdQhtpg9fF2JAbcYKFZrxexNnpDI3hv2e1 KGM5A+JsHjvLOSz0xs3WJLM5NS3JSGcsXmA0pWu2OFnegJLcDOsyuBHPMw5kEG/23MOcHYeL gbcHP/js8nm8CARUpSCMgNRy+Pn9G0zG82Dnpwa8FGgILdUMYGXPsFo+VAJY33RGZAgCp4yw v2KOZIiiCuF49xEgYYxaBusGKyYLKalFcPjtfaWE51KbYHPjaVzW58CW670KGSfD9tGbagmT VDYcr7s1eQ/EJkbb6hVyTT1831+tkJujYPBxx1SjOjjYN66S9Tr48VjDVA+JsObRCC7jBHi1 9ism14+Er871K2VvtNhDl7IM6KpmRVTNslfNslfNstcAZR3QsS6vkOd2pBiTkY0VkAsl2zzu O0AeioEH4Ff1whCgCECHk0tMvFWrYgp4vzsEogkFrSMvFApWbUSex+53Mrxzty/fhfgQgARG R5Evc0WOtDP+QuTzTFNm8W+WYzFzbB5x/Dhhtykl5Z8DrSevFeVYtZRDHK59CHmRb9oaSxA0 JC9LiZE+5EAH97Iu4S+tIMKk5HAx+ZykIXkv4+ZZh8y3ARPRdbXrHSD6pLdWyXk4FKMnA5KU kqTOfG6mmrQThyYmJoaAXvzyuWSppAoXN2am3pAYpRCjMHIySlyFGSqmCGz/9vzKh22hVU/T 49Z9jUuvSNAcZo6AiDLPsbGV5IbXB8IH1saqS7iSmqjs/IfdlvUbvxwN28SV2zoDuyJyT2QF b+sT4zOaBuNrMy91RWq2qnv3n019kpBqD4RNtN7dV1/8oPZaE+4vZuFFTajl84q0hILj2tJd K/fMH9s5aEocsNNK3skYl2I+nvkDMzOCtu4DAAA= Subject: [Adslmib] Call for interest in developing the Vectoring of Profiles MIB X-BeenThere: adslmib@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: ADSLMIB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:09:43 -0000 Hi All, As I wrote on Monday, I am looking to see if there is still interest in deve= loping the Vectoring of Profiles MIB. So far I have not seen any response. I will allow a few more days but if there is no reaction from the WG members= this will be taken as a lack of interest, and as there are no other items i= n our charter (as soon as the remaining G.Bond MIBs are completed) the Worki= ng Group will be closed down. In addition to showing your interest, please also indicate whether you are w= illing to participate in developing the MIB, as an editor or reviewer, and w= hether you or your company are likely to implement/deploy the MIB if it is= developed. Note: If anyone has a problem with sending their response to the mailing lis= t they can send me a private email. Thank you kindly. Best Regards, Menachem This e-mail message is intended for the recipient only and contains informat= ion which is CONFIDENTIAL and which may be proprietary to ECI Telecom. If yo= u have received this transmission in error, please inform us by e-mail, phon= e or fax, and then delete the original and all copies thereof.