From nobody Tue Jun 6 10:17:01 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: aqm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: aqm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB42A129AC4; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 10:16:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=toke.dk Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Q-RLBOt1LwVa; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 10:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [52.28.52.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF5EE128D3E; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 10:16:51 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1496769403; bh=SFkuwQ7SM4VdLjB9SeJjJNZx8WTcadM8+UL7BoH+/80=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=JOFSwgBm7lL2+6maJXAAQFCWr7xtzdYh76F2s1iAPKb6JOmXAcN9rvuf2y88aq7fX /CZSo5bRbxhArOaXWh7Qj7Z9Tr1IsmD/vN7Jelkv3GRbg1ciW7oe27AbeciztDhjqk iiz0YfuGrXKQkjAwuRu5b4ObSYbCWKDGFqAR2XA46OxO5084x0PC8d3H9NQRiAy60X pAtUfPSAZc9J1lDrOTfZMJ5ayYkh92Uyxl894Q7ekUK/iMkSLJz+KnZz5fkRk3exXL 3v/YZidLfP2eyrswF1XWA+xtdTG32NHzWvIZlSUxKDpzUYDhNTSUTSB52Hxj0IoUAE cL8IBD6IZZq7A== To: Jana Iyengar Cc: "Mirja Kuehlewind \(IETF\)" , Wesley Eddy , "aqm-chairs\@ietf.org" , aqm@ietf.org, The IESG , Warren Kumari , draft-ietf-aqm-codel@ietf.org References: <149158704960.11211.6016773961643040981.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <6A67DED7-961E-4966-BA3D-FD465CBF32EE@kuehlewind.net> <87shjrbrqf.fsf@alrua-kau> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 19:16:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Jana Iyengar's message of "Fri, 26 May 2017 10:23:38 -0700") X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87k24pc9za.fsf@alrua-x1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Archived-At: Subject: Re: [aqm] Warren Kumari's Yes on draft-ietf-aqm-codel-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: aqm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for active queue management and flow isolation." 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Or maybe this week? ;) -Toke From nobody Thu Jun 22 08:02:32 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: aqm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: aqm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C76127419; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 08:02:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.22 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.22 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hNzU1ykfRKqO; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 08:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sessmg23.ericsson.net (sessmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.45]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC105120726; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 08:02:20 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-edfff7000000080d-ec-594bdbfa60dc Received: from ESESSHC022.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.183.84]) by sessmg23.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 16.F2.02061.AFBDB495; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 17:02:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB109.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.25]) by ESESSHC022.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.84]) with mapi id 14.03.0339.000; Thu, 22 Jun 2017 17:02:17 +0200 From: Szilveszter Nadas To: "iccrg@irtf.org" CC: "tsvwg@ietf.org" , "'aqm@ietf.org'" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E1ndor_Laki_=28lakis=40elte=2Ehu=29?= , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Zolt=E1n_Tur=E1nyi?= , "Gombos Gergo (ggombos@inf.elte.hu)" Thread-Topic: Potential ICCRG presentation about the Per Packet Value concept @ Prague? Thread-Index: AdLrZf3203Zshlh/Scm66nsplcQPYQ== Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:02:17 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.147] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_EA4C43BE752A194597B002779DF69BAE4254E5E0ESESSMB109erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFprIIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM2J7iO7v296RBusXclus2SdpcXfSW0aL Awt2slu0Xv/GbnHszV02B1aPW21/mD2WLPnJ5LGtZzu7x+SNh9kCWKK4bFJSczLLUov07RK4 Mg6tfspcsMKq4suTuAbGKUZdjJwcEgImErunz2XvYuTiEBI4wigxsfcwlLOYUeLw5OMsIFVs AhYSDSs3s3UxcnCICKhK3DoqDlLDLDCZSWLeqy2MIHFhgRCJ6b+lIUoiJSaulAHpFBHQk5h3 9S8biM0C1Llr8Tt2EJtXwFdi0tnFrCA2o4CYxPdTa5hAbGYBcYlbT+YzQdwmILFkz3lmCFtU 4uXjf6wg4yUElCSmbU2DKM+XeHTtOBvESEGJkzOfsExgFJqFZNIsJGWzkJRBxPUkbkydwgZh a0ssW/iaGcLWlZjx7xALsvgCRvZVjKLFqcXFuelGxnqpRZnJxcX5eXp5qSWbGIERdXDLb90d jKtfOx5iFOBgVOLh3XHGO1KINbGsuDL3EKMEB7OSCESINyWxsiq1KD++qDQntfgQozQHi5I4 r8O+CxFCAumJJanZqakFqUUwWSYOTqkGRo4v01dVHA86KHT0XsvB+FWM0axVS2yjGVfVx517 tECW5fbBlqQepe3GMzLex5eeDA6Xtlnf8nnp5OaN37aq1p33vX2BoWFvNeuqz4GPuRc9Mv19 tU5/+bp1u86lbeiZ84F7tvWfS52yt613nGTRlu28dlSxv+J6+c5FFlsElL+s6A6xa1r3rliJ pTgj0VCLuag4EQCvkjwupAIAAA== Archived-At: Subject: [aqm] Potential ICCRG presentation about the Per Packet Value concept @ Prague? X-BeenThere: aqm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for active queue management and flow isolation." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:02:27 -0000 --_000_EA4C43BE752A194597B002779DF69BAE4254E5E0ESESSMB109erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi ICCRG, cc AQM and TSVWG, We have a research concept paper "Take your own share of the PIE" accepted = to the ANRW WS (Saturday before the Prague ietf https://irtf.org/anrw/2017/= ). Two of the reviewers mentioned that it might be interesting for the ietf, e= specially ICCRG, maybe AQM or TSVWG. I would be happy to present a summary = of this paper (and the previous one it is based upon) at the Monday iccrg s= lot, if indeed it is interesting for the group. It would take ~20-30 minute= s. I have to finalize my travel plans next week, so if I get a confirmatio= n that you are interested and that I have a slot reserved then I can extend= my travel accordingly. (I will not participate at the IETF otherwise). Link to the two papers: http://lakis.web.elte.hu/publ/PPOV-AQM-inpress-ANRW2017.pdf (the ANRW paper= ) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312595858_Per_Packet_Value_A_Pract= ical_Concept_for_Network_Resource_Sharing (Base concept paper @Globecom 201= 6) Why it might be interesting (part of the Abstracts): We introduce a framework that consists of flow-aware Packet Value marking a= t the edges and flow-unaware operation inside the network. We show that ins= ide the network relatively simple scheduling and AQM algorithms operating solely on Packet Value are suitable to implement t= he policies set at the network edge. We propose the PVPIE Active Queue Management (AQM) method that combines the= packet scheduling and dropping algorithms of PIE AQM and the packet markin= g-based resource sharing of the Per Packet Value (PPV) concept. PVPIE AQM c= ombines the benefits of PIE and PPV concepts, keeping a target queueing del= ay and implementing policy-based resource sharing at the same time. I am also happy to discuss the papers and receive comments on the mailing l= ist. Cheers, Szilveszter --_000_EA4C43BE752A194597B002779DF69BAE4254E5E0ESESSMB109erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi ICCRG, cc AQM and TSVWG,

 

We have a research concept paper “Take your= own share of the PIE” accepted to the ANRW WS (Saturday before the P= rague ietf https://irtf.org/anrw/2017/).

 

Two of the reviewers mentioned that it might be i= nteresting for the ietf, especially ICCRG, maybe AQM or TSVWG. I would be h= appy to present a summary of this paper (and the previous one it is based u= pon) at the Monday iccrg slot, if indeed it is interesting for the group. It would take ~20-30 minutes. &nbs= p;I have to finalize my travel plans next week, so if I get a confirmation = that you are interested and that I have a slot reserved then I can extend m= y travel accordingly. (I will not participate at the IETF otherwise).

 

Link to the two papers:

http://lakis.web.elte.hu/publ/PPOV-AQM-inpress-ANRW2= 017.pdf (the ANRW paper)

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312595858_Per_Packet_Value_A_= Practical_Concept_for_Network_Resource_Sharing (Base concept paper @Globecom 2016)

 

Why it might be interesting (part of the Abstract= s):

We introduce a framework that consists of flow-aw= are Packet Value marking at the edges and flow-unaware operation inside the= network. We show that inside the network relatively simple scheduling and<= o:p>

AQM algorithms operating solely on Packet Value a= re suitable to implement the policies set at the network edge.

We propose the PVPIE Active Queue Management (AQM= ) method that combines the packet scheduling and dropping algorithms of PIE= AQM and the packet marking-based resource sharing of the Per Packet Value = (PPV) concept. PVPIE AQM combines the benefits of PIE and PPV concepts, keeping a target queueing delay and = implementing policy-based resource sharing at the same time.

 

I am also happy to discuss the papers and receive= comments on the mailing list.

 

Cheers,

Szilveszter

 

 

 

 

--_000_EA4C43BE752A194597B002779DF69BAE4254E5E0ESESSMB109erics_-- From nobody Wed Jun 28 06:28:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: aqm@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: aqm@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C771267BB; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 06:28:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=toke.dk Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cWA8oIpBg7wJ; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 06:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [52.28.52.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38B0212778E; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 06:28:54 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1498656530; bh=L/UKuYwIMyussBNUWA1bG9Kiqxz9+wwvwtls1TrqJaE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=LSkrtbPeXVBEWvCBbjTtzPBMGSRPPFT0oN+0KenH2bMp17hL3yYWa1hm4LQ9UATgH Tyr6cEZN5jKwaqRYrIaX8IAhNsSFRiK1FleyT8dXlUXl5hjZEGfXv+/ADm0vg4UZV8 Toaebj0szEnTycDuBgwDAZ4dX2qkh1MDxcYuP5Kd9srPC4IqR2S7s26VMzhCI80pX5 WkOOYxBQ8NS05RxiXSxHSA9VS7nDT9QEZ3SFgWtnyksyhEYTXsvSMZx2Z9LSAPab0X EcXEbS/v4s/dDFrErON7dN5uYQpCkygwOAWpbC3gzcVc4gja93oWHxNFlXhNtSRg9y B5o36tcMNPriQ== To: Jana Iyengar Cc: "Mirja Kuehlewind \(IETF\)" , Wesley Eddy , "aqm-chairs\@ietf.org" , aqm@ietf.org, The IESG , Warren Kumari , draft-ietf-aqm-codel@ietf.org References: <149158704960.11211.6016773961643040981.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <6A67DED7-961E-4966-BA3D-FD465CBF32EE@kuehlewind.net> <87shjrbrqf.fsf@alrua-kau> <87k24pc9za.fsf@alrua-x1> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:28:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87k24pc9za.fsf@alrua-x1> ("Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B8rgensen=22's?= message of "Tue, 06 Jun 2017 19:16:41 +0200") X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87vangz1f3.fsf@alrua-x1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [aqm] Warren Kumari's Yes on draft-ietf-aqm-codel-07: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: aqm@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion list for active queue management and flow isolation." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 13:28:57 -0000 Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen writes: > Jana Iyengar writes: > >> Yup, coming up next week. > > Or maybe this week? ;) So, any chance of getting this submitted before the cutoff date on Monday? -Toke