From fu@cs.uni-goettingen.de Tue Apr 14 13:48:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93873A68D3 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:48:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.649 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.649 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-1.000, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_EQ_DE=0.35] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id onrQRQijQj49 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amailer.gwdg.de (amailer.gwdg.de [134.76.10.18]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB863A67F1 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p5b03841f.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.3.132.31] helo=[192.168.0.187]) by mailer.gwdg.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LtpZo-00040L-Dd for asrg@irtf.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:49:52 +0200 Message-ID: <49E4F728.9000600@cs.uni-goettingen.de> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:50:48 +0200 From: Xiaoming Fu Organization: University of Goettingen, Germany User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: asrg@irtf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated: Id:xfu X-Virus-Scanned: (clean) by exiscan+sophie Subject: [Asrg] CFP: SIMPLEX 2009 - Simplifying Complex Networks X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:48:43 -0000 Call For Papers Simplex 2009 1st Annual Workshop on Simplifying Complex Network for Practitioners http://www.simplexconf.net July 1, 2009, Venice, Italy Network Science, sometimes also called "complex networks science", has recently attracted much attention from the scientific community, mainly due to the almost ubiquitous presence of complex networks in real-world systems. Examples of complex networks are found in living organisms, in engineering systems, as well as in social networks. Most of the real-world systems have the required degree of complexity to be called "complex systems". Complex may have to do with the intricate dynamics of the interacting components, with the non-trivial properties of the underlying network topology, or with the sheer size of the system itself. Despite the numerous workshops and conferences related to network science, it is still a set of loosely interacting communities. Those communities would benefit from better interactions. Researchers in network science can be categorized according to the theoretical school from which they come, e.g. statistical physics, game theory, information theory, distributed algorithms. Each school tackles a very particular aspect of complex systems, like statistical interactions between components, or the computation of the equilibrium of a particular system. The assumptions made by each school to apply their theoretical tools makes it very difficult for practitioners to apply their results to practical situations. Simplex is expected to trigger the communication networks community to propose the topics that should be tackled from the network science perspective, and let the network community explain how to best use their tools for practical problems of communication networks. Two types of contributions are foreseen from prospective authors. The first type would consist of use-cases of theoretical tools and methods to solve practical problems. Such contributions should be as usable as possible by practitioners in the related field. The second type of contributions would come from practitioners that have identified a problem that may be solved by tools from network sciences. The point of such contributions is to make the network sciences community aware of the importance of a high-impact problem, and to suggest means by which the problem may be solved by the network sciences community. Both contributions should stimulate interaction between theoreticians and practitioners, and also have high potential impact in either field. Topics of interest include (but are not restricted to): - Design of wired/wireless networks - Representing and analyzing dynamic networks - Network robustness to failures and attacks - Mining of large scale networks - Forwarding/routing for opportunistic network - Mobility/connectivity modeling - Anti-spam and Sybil attacks All submitted papers will be carefully evaluated based on originality, significance, technical soundness, and clarity of expression. All submissions must be in English. Submissions should be in PDF format and must not exceed 6 pages. After the workshop, proceedings will be published by Springer-Verlag. Steering Committee Jon Crowcroft University of Cambridge, UK Steve Uhlig Deutsche Telekom Laboratories/TU Berlin, Germany Pan Hui Deutsche Telekom Laboratories/TU Berlin, Germany Walter Willinger ATT research, USA PC Co-chairs Steve Uhlig T-labs/TU Berlin, Germany Pan Hui T-labs/TU Berlin, Germany Web Co-chairs Fehmi Ben Abdesslem University of St Andrews, UK Nishanth Sastry University of Cambridge, UK TPC members Alain Barrat University of Marseille, France Marian Boguna University of Barcelona, Spain Stefan Bornholdt University of Bremen, Germany Paul Bourgine Ecole Polytechnique, France Augustin Chaintreau Thomson research lab, France Mark Crovella Boston University, USA Nathan Eagle MIT/Santa Fe Institute, USA Damien Fey McGill University, Canada Marta Gonzalez Northeastern University, USA Pan Hui T-labs/TU Berlin, Germany Almerima Jamakovic TNO ICT, Netherlands Hawoong Jeong KAIST, Korea Dimitri Krioukov CAIDA, USA Matthieu Latapy UPMC/LIP6, France Vito Latora University of Catania, Italy Shishir Nagaraja UIUC, USA Clemence Magnien UPMC/LIP6, France Jose Mendes University of Aveiro, Portugal Richard Mortier Vipadia Ltd., UK Raul Mondragon University of London, UK Andrew Moore University of Cambridge, UK Nadine Peyrieras INAF-CNRS, France Michael Rabbat McGill University, Canada Nishanth Sastry University of Cambridge, UK Georgios Smaragdakis Deutsche Telekom Laboratories, Germany Steve Uhlig T-labs/TU Berlin, Germany Walter Willinger AT&T research, USA Shi Zhou University College London, UK Deadlines Paper submission: April 30, 2009 Notification of acceptance: May 30, 2009 Registration deadline: June 10, 2009 Workshop: July 1, 2009 From rsk@gsp.org Sun Apr 19 12:11:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B2633A6AAA for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:11:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -6.493 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.493 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.106, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yE2t2vPkx4CX for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from taos.firemountain.net (taos.firemountain.net [207.114.3.54]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728A33A6B25 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from squonk.gsp.org (bltmd-207.114.17.31.dsl.charm.net [207.114.17.31]) by taos.firemountain.net (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n3JJCNFP000492 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avatar.gsp.org (avatar.gsp.org [192.168.0.11]) by squonk.gsp.org (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n3JJ8qRN031645 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from avatar.gsp.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by avatar.gsp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-4) with ESMTP id n3JJCHNB002421 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:12:17 -0400 Received: (from rsk@localhost) by avatar.gsp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3JJCHiX002420 for asrg@irtf.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:12:17 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:12:17 -0400 From: Rich Kulawiec To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF Message-ID: <20090419191217.GF32648@gsp.org> References: <20090122144402.GN24908@verdi> <20090123003512.13970.qmail@simone.iecc.com> <934f64a20902100903x11ba5cb4y2dc82f12ced84a14@mail.gmail.com> <20090211030921.GQ52653@verdi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090211030921.GQ52653@verdi> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: [Asrg] About that e-postage draft [POSTAGE] X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 19:11:12 -0000 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:09:21PM -0500, John Leslie wrote: > (Keep in mind that mass-email isn't all spam, and there are quite a few > mass-emailers that currently pay "vouching" services to improve their > delivery rates.) Yes, they do, which reflects poorly on their performance and motivation. Having run some reasonably large mass email operations, I've found that if you do things scrupulously right, then delivery difficulties are infrequent, transient, and easily remedied. The only people who need these services (or think they need services) are (a) incompetent (b) ignorant or (c) spammers, or (d) some combination. I often think of these "vouching" services as the online equivalent of an "indulgences" market -- they certainly share many attributes. ---Rsk From johnl@iecc.com Mon Apr 20 06:14:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FD43A67F8 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:14:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -15.542 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-15.542 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=1.057, BAYES_50=0.001, HABEAS_ACCREDITED_SOI=-4.3, RCVD_IN_BSP_TRUSTED=-4.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H1cAjUyby-YA for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [208.31.42.53]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E3A3A68AE for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12929 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2009 13:15:19 -0000 Received: from mail1.iecc.com (208.31.42.56) by mail1.iecc.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2009 13:15:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=k0904; i=johnl@user.iecc.com; bh=jPr/kGS2JhB3axAwUoTRSPLQQ+97nnXS+ZN4MXJXpLY=; b=j4wsQlV9eqIzNVpu5/wQI6TtTun430BdFpK2TKwpUSoEWR7pSq72rGTJqydPuadeCaNe1DePl7cANDrxBz0rRTv1w0NntJNC74voKpKZOCcDY650wuTBgo8UG8hHKjxaFEOGT9TnI2Gtq+Lzx7ZHZnkQxVehEjQ/cjuIIh6JTq0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=k0904; bh=jPr/kGS2JhB3axAwUoTRSPLQQ+97nnXS+ZN4MXJXpLY=; b=De1S5d/VWvVS8ss5W094xF21YIrq8VCDYEbedwK/Nf2GeGAPDQWz1AutrqAy2wZyP9sveypILThiQv8R8bkMWcGz5BZGNKePoIPchymqgOL+NcEu/pqGHa3PTQ+ehDErXTVbhRyGKwA1Oi6bXowD2IBjlp79FmYAAQKh5zkMoVc= Date: 20 Apr 2009 13:15:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20090420131519.2670.qmail@simone.iecc.com> From: John Levine To: asrg@irtf.org In-Reply-To: <20090419191217.GF32648@gsp.org> Organization: Cc: X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Asrg] vouching, was About that e-postage draft X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:14:06 -0000 >> mass-emailers that currently pay "vouching" services to improve their >> delivery rates.) > >Yes, they do, which reflects poorly on their performance and motivation. Most of the people who sign up for vouching services are primarily in some business other than e-mail. Return Path, which is the largest vouching service these days, have full time staff that basically watch the behavior of their vouching customers and tell them to clean up their acts if they want to stay on the list. Some do, some don't. I agree it would be nice if everyone who sent mail knew what he was doing and scrupulously kept to best practices. Unfortunately, we don't live on that planet, so on balance the vouching services do more good than bad to keep people who are going to send mail doing so reasonably responsibly. R's, John From destoo@vircom.com Tue Apr 21 06:46:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155323A6A9A for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:46:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H0cDPwqstgBb for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ODIN-0.vircom.com (smtp.vircom.com [64.18.73.13]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497A828C2A7 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vircom.com (unverified [127.0.0.1]) by ODIN-0.vircom.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.6.741.11) with ESMTP id for (AUTH = destoo@vircom.com); Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:46:59 -0400 X-Modus-BlackList: 127.0.0.1=OK;destoo@vircom.com=OK X-Modus-Trusted: 127.0.0.1=YES X-Modus-Audit: TRUE;3;-1;128850400193770000 Message-ID: <9b2f069ee83c498e949aa5f9cc637184.destoo@vircom.com> X-EM-APIVersion: 2, 0, 2, 6 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: "destoo@vircom.com" To: asrg@irtf.org Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:46:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Asrg] vouching X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:46:32 -0000 Hello John We keep hearing about Constant Contact and other mailers, and this is the first time I personally hear about Return Path (which is a good thing for them!) I guess the only times I've seen vouching services used is when marketing has a deadline (and they do not have time to talk to us anti-spam guys), or when they tried a couple of times and figured out it was too time consuming to get everything right (and the cost of "looking stupid" was too high) When even experts don't agree on best practices=2E=2E=20 Marc-Antoine Chabot=20 Vircom Anti-Spam team (sorry if this email is coming up twice=2E=2E I registered for this list under an alias, and it looks like I can't send with it anymore) -----Original Message----- From: asrg-bounces@irtf=2Eorg [mailto:asrg-bounces@irtf=2Eorg] On Behalf Of John Levine Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 9:15 AM To: asrg@irtf=2Eorg Subject: Re: [Asrg] vouching, was About that e-postage draft >> mass-emailers that currently pay "vouching" services to improve their >> delivery rates=2E) > >Yes, they do, which reflects poorly on their performance and motivation=2E Most of the people who sign up for vouching services are primarily in some business other than e-mail=2E Return Path, which is the largest vouching service these days, have full time staff that basically watch the behavior of their vouching customers and tell them to clean up their acts if they want to stay on the list=2E Some do, some don't=2E I agree it would be nice if everyone who sent mail knew what he was doing and scrupulously kept to best practices=2E=20 Unfortunately, we don't live on that planet, so on balance the vouching services do more good than bad to keep people who are going to send mail doing so reasonably responsibly=2E R's, John _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@irtf=2Eorg http://www=2Eirtf=2Eorg/mailman/listinfo/asrg From davidnicol@gmail.com Thu Apr 23 19:37:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: asrg@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A11E328C6E8 for ; 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Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:50:32 -0400 Received: (from rsk@localhost) by avatar.gsp.org (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n3QAoWaD022546 for asrg@irtf.org; Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:50:32 -0400 Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 06:50:32 -0400 From: Rich Kulawiec To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF Message-ID: <20090426105032.GA22265@gsp.org> References: <934f64a20904231926m66238348y8b248ba7f3108297@mail.gmail.com> <934f64a20904231938p1a8fcb18gbb2eb467977c7560@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <934f64a20904231938p1a8fcb18gbb2eb467977c7560@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Subject: Re: [Asrg] a link about suppression list sharing X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:49:20 -0000 Interesting take on the spammer practice of list-washing. 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Zimbra Desktop/1.0_1537_Mac) Subject: [Asrg] Spam Statisitcs X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:01:38 -0000 ------=_Part_64_13678746.1240880563063 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.marshal8e6.com/TRACE/spam_statistics.asp I found the above web site quite interesting regarding spam statistics. They organize the source by botnets. ------=_Part_64_13678746.1240880563063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
http://www.marshal8e6.com/TRACE/spam_statistics.asp

I found the above web site quite interesting regarding spam statistics. They organize the source by botnets.
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