From johnl@iecc.com Wed Jul 6 11:32:39 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: asrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070AE21F89CC for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 11:32:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.579 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.579 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.021, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id eRyCneSzgZE9 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 11:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from leila.iecc.com (leila6.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:4c:6569:6c61]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E8121F89C6 for ; Wed, 6 Jul 2011 11:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 48867 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2011 18:32:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:vbr-info:user-agent:cleverness; s=bee2.4e14aa45.k1107; bh=JzpZvPU/pGfi9YPqA52BUNdX2aJf6mVaEtbC75q6Mgw=; b=SvMZIav3tqzNRdF33j7vmuFTIfVHp8Nc2aQEvsH0F33BXSromzSgmGb3gQCYlQhFtHgdpKSNm3bTSfd2C3cHL9kkaYBJ+WEiXf4dBDt/F2wMI3jYmSf+6hn1l2OPE69ftNs6sZUa8ymGagp9egpsBAIqXJK97TkhXrNZ71x+9aU= VBR-Info: md=iecc.com; mc=all; mv=dwl.spamhaus.org Received: (ofmipd 127.0.0.1) with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 6 Jul 2011 18:32:15 -0000 Date: 6 Jul 2011 14:32:37 -0400 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Anti Spam Research Group" User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Cleverness: None detected MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: [Asrg] ASRG lunch at IETF 81 ? X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 18:32:39 -0000 I asked if anyone was interested in an ASRG lunch, and only saw one reply. I'm perfectly happy to have lunch only with him, but surely there's more than the two of us going. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. http://jl.ly From nsb@guppylake.com Thu Jul 7 02:08:30 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: asrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22EDC21F8788 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:08:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.11 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9JERlu72D8Y7 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server1.netnutz.com (server1.netnutz.com [72.233.90.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 589C321F85F3 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 02:08:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=guppylake.com; h=Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=mX0t8qgwAkmqoalCofHVNv0GsYpvkjMNfs+q6uWFmqqiSFLUcoOzshof6bxAGurGU5zIWy144gfSbx7DC7Mfbvjl0BF8G7WrH5qeD5DqJ62WEdIgg0/zPYr/sJ0KTNRH; Received: from [195.153.194.242] (helo=[192.168.55.182]) by server1.netnutz.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QekZO-0001Sa-CM for asrg@irtf.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 05:08:26 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Nathaniel Borenstein In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:08:22 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server1.netnutz.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - irtf.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - guppylake.com Subject: Re: [Asrg] ASRG lunch at IETF 81 ? X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 09:08:30 -0000 Really? Just you and me? It could actually be productive.... :-) On Jul 6, 2011, at 7:32 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > I asked if anyone was interested in an ASRG lunch, and only saw one = reply. I'm perfectly happy to have lunch only with him, but surely = there's more than the two of us going. >=20 > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for = Dummies", > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. = http://jl.ly > _______________________________________________ > Asrg mailing list > Asrg@irtf.org > http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg From davidnicol@gmail.com Fri Jul 8 09:05:25 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: asrg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: asrg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67C9821F8B11 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:05:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hyler9UDlc5i for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E70921F8B19 for ; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iwr19 with SMTP id 19so2484000iwr.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 09:05:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=g/omQU7gksfV1hYwqcnMSvVNkzVUOVyeLVnhuKy5QXA=; b=YXUjaeWvrx6EAZGdQMXdul4aiK6ykBEpHi1NfVi/wSF4mjAX3bslzhN6+BjmrO3dev c9AZh4Pg+gk5kOATL1ZN/cD2fCczRjXdm0Rgh2LZIU99JfkRCnel918dra16tLeOEXG1 GvkJhqfvAhj83lHNnVsrHSviofOe8SSIERm3s= Received: by 10.42.3.144 with SMTP id 16mr1358364ico.284.1310141123092; Fri, 08 Jul 2011 09:05:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.176.5 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:05:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20110301163411.B094412EC69@ca-mirror-1.uceprotect.net> References: <20110301163411.B094412EC69@ca-mirror-1.uceprotect.net> From: David Nicol Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 11:05:03 -0500 Message-ID: To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF , "Claus v. Wolfhausen" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d369883f5f7d04a791006b Subject: Re: [Asrg] Final statement X-BeenThere: asrg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Id: Anti-Spam Research Group - IRTF List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 16:05:25 -0000 --0016e6d369883f5f7d04a791006b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Claus v. Wolfhausen < c.v.wolfhausen@spamkiller.uceprotect.net> wrote: > Really technical important things got a "SHOULD" OR "RECOMMENDED" while a > the content of a policy (if there is a payment option or not) got a "MUST > NOT" > I'm inspired to draft a BCP on BCP interpretation, which would include, but not be limited to "advice in BCP documents MUST NOT be misinterpreted as anything other than opinion" unfortunately the margins of this e-mail are too small ... --0016e6d369883f5f7d04a791006b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Claus v= . Wolfhausen <c.v.wolfhausen@spamkiller.uceprotect.net>= wrote:
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I'm inspired to draft a BCP on BCP interpretation, which would inc= lude, but not be limited to

"advice in BCP do= cuments MUST NOT be misinterpreted as anything other than opinion"

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