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From: "Igoe, Kevin M." <kmigoe@nsa.gov>
To: 'John Mattsson' <john.mattsson@ericsson.com>, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" <internet-drafts@ietf.org>, "i-d-announce@ietf.org" <i-d-announce@ietf.org>
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[Resending with the correct address for avtcore. Apologies for the =
repeat]

Hi,

The referenced draft is a start for discussion on the implicat ions of =
using different DiffServ treatments for packets in the same IP flow =
(that is, share the same IP 5-tuple.) This will likely be of interest to =
RTCWEB, MMUSIC, AVTCORE, CLUE and possibly other groups that contemplate =
the bundling of multiple media streams on a single IP flow.=20

Please take discussion to the DART working group list (copied.)

Thanks!

Ben.


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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts =
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>=20
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>       Title           : Differentiated Services (DiffServ) and =
Real-time Communication
>       Authors         : Dan York
>                         David Black
>                         Cullen Jennings
>                         Paul Jones
> 	Filename        : draft-york-dart-dscp-rtp-00.txt
> 	Pages           : 13
> 	Date            : 2014-06-06
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> Abstract:
>  This document describes the interaction between Differentiated
>  Services (DiffServ) network quality of service (QoS) functionality
>  and real-time network communication, including communication based on
>  the Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP).  DiffServ is based on network
>  nodes applying different forwarding treatments to packets whose IP
>  headers are marked with different DiffServ Code Points (DSCPs).  As a
>  result, use of different DSCPs within a single traffic flow may cause
>  transport protocol interactions (e.g., due to reordering).  In
>  addition, DSCP markings may be changed or removed between the traffic
>  source and destination.  This document covers the implications of
>  these DiffServ aspects for real-time network communication, including
>  RTCWEB.
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>=20
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Hi all,

I reviewed this as a part of the ongoing update of the taxonomy draft to tr=
y to align them, and have the following comments on the topologies-update-0=
2:

* What is meant with "Media Flow" in 3.2.1.3; is it a set of RTP Streams? I=
n that case, does this set have any specific characteristics?

* (At least) in 3.2.2 and 3.3.3, the term "flow" is used in "RTP flow" or "=
packet flow"; how is that different from taxonomy RTP Stream?

* The terms "transport flow" or just "flow" are heavily used in 3.4; again,=
 as with "Media Flow", is there any specific distinction assumed in this be=
sides possibly being a set of RTP Streams?

* The term "RTP media stream" is used in many places; is there an intended =
specialization compared to a (generic) RTP Stream?

* What is a "Content source" in 3.6? Is it a Media Source?

* What is a "Conference session" in 3.6? Is it a Communication Session, or =
some specialization of it?

* Can you explain a bit of what is a "Session participant" in 3.6? There ar=
e discussions on the use of End Point and/or Participant in taxonomy, so I'=
m hesitant to suggest any taxonomy term right now since it may change.

* The stand-alone term "stream" is used in many places throughout the docum=
ent. I think it very reasonable to just assume it is a short for "RTP Strea=
m", but you may want to make such comment early on in the document. I found=
 no place in the document where such assumption would be invalid.

* The term "global session" is used in 3.6; I find it a bit hard to underst=
and what is meant.

* Section 3.6.1 could possibly benefit from using the taxonomy term "Encode=
d Stream"

* Nit: Figure 3 (in 3.2.1.3) and Figure 4 (in 3.2.2) have the same caption;=
 is this intended?

Cheers,
Bo

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> From: Stephan Wenger [mailto:stewe@stewe.org]
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> To: avt@ietf.org
> Cc: jonathan@vidyo.com; snandaku@cisco.com; Bo Burman; kevin.gross@avanw.=
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> Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-topologies-upda=
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> Hi all,
>=20
> Magnus and I just posted an update to the topologies-update draft.  There=
 are a few editorial changes elsewhere, but
> the substance of the update from -01 to -02 is in section 4.  We authors =
believe that the draft is now complete to the
> point a draft of this nature can be complete--people will continue to dre=
am up new topologies in the future.  Insofar, this
> draft can only be a snapshot of the current situation, as it is know to u=
s.
>=20
> Any review is welcome.  We would especially like to invite the authors of=
 the taxonomy draft (in CC) to check whether,
> and where, alignment with their document is required or desirable.  Thank=
s in advance.
>=20
> Our hope is that the draft can be last-called soon.
>=20
> Thanks,
> Stephan
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>=20
>=20
> On 27.5.14, 10:26, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> wrote:
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> >
> >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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> > This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Core
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> >
> >        Title           : RTP Topologies
> >        Authors         : Magnus Westerlund
> >                          Stephan Wenger
> >	Filename        : draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-topologies-update-02.txt
> >	Pages           : 43
> >	Date            : 2014-05-27
> >
> >Abstract:
> >   This document discusses point to point and multi-endpoint topologies
> >   used in Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP)-based environments.  In
> >   particular, centralized topologies commonly employed in the video
> >   conferencing industry are mapped to the RTP terminology.
> >
> >   This document is updated with additional topologies and is intended
> >   to replace RFC 5117.
> >
> >
> >The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
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Hi,

This is the preliminary agenda and may change. Final agenda will be
available this Friday.

 

avtcore Session 1 (2:00:00)

    Wednesday, Afternoon Session I 1300-1500

    Room Name: Territories size: 150

 

Please send the WG chairs requests for agenda time

 

We asked for Meetecho  allowing remote participation

 

Note that Magnus will not attend the meeting in person.

 

Thanks

Roni Even

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenance Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : AES-GCM and AES-CCM Authenticated Encryption in Secure RTP (SRTP)
        Authors         : David A. McGrew
                          Kevin M. Igoe
	Filename        : draft-ietf-avtcore-srtp-aes-gcm-13.txt
	Pages           : 33
	Date            : 2014-06-24

Abstract:
   This document defines how AES-GCM and AES-CCM Authenticated
   Encryption with Associated Data algorithms can be used to provide
   confidentiality and data authentication in the SRTP protocol.



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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7272

        Title:      Inter-Destination Media Synchronization (IDMS) Using 
                    the RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) 
        Author:     R. van Brandenburg, H. Stokking,
                    O. van Deventer, F. Boronat,
                    M. Montagud, K. Gross
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       June 2014
        Mailbox:    ray.vanbrandenburg@tno.nl, 
                    hans.stokking@tno.nl, 
                    oskar.vandeventer@tno.nl,
                    fboronat@dcom.upv.es, 
                    mamontor@posgrado.upv.es,
                    kevin.gross@avanw.com
        Pages:      23
        Characters: 56261
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-avtcore-idms-13.txt

        URL:        http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7272.txt

This document defines a new RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Packet Type
and an RTCP Extended Report (XR) Block Type to be used for achieving
Inter-Destination Media Synchronization (IDMS).  IDMS is the process
of synchronizing playout across multiple media receivers.  Using the
RTCP XR IDMS Report Block defined in this document, media playout
information from participants in a synchronization group can be
collected.  Based on the collected information, an RTCP IDMS Settings
Packet can then be sent to distribute a common target playout point
to which all the distributed receivers, sharing a media experience,
can synchronize.

Typical use cases in which IDMS is useful are social TV, shared
service control (i.e., applications where two or more geographically
separated users are watching a media stream together), distance
learning, networked video walls, networked loudspeakers, etc.

This document is a product of the Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenance Working Group of the IETF.

This is now a Proposed Standard.

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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        
        RFC 7273

        Title:      RTP Clock Source Signalling 
        Author:     A. Williams, K. Gross,
                    R. van Brandenburg, H. Stokking
        Status:     Standards Track
        Stream:     IETF
        Date:       June 2014
        Mailbox:    aidan.williams@audinate.com, 
                    kevin.gross@avanw.com, 
                    ray.vanbrandenburg@tno.nl,
                    hans.stokking@tno.nl
        Pages:      30
        Characters: 63009
        Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso:   None

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-avtcore-clksrc-11.txt

        URL:        http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7273.txt

NTP format timestamps are used by several RTP protocols for
synchronisation and statistical measurements.  This memo specifies
Session Description Protocol (SDP) signalling that identifies
timestamp reference clock sources and SDP signalling that identifies
the media clock sources in a multimedia session.

This document is a product of the Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenance Working Group of the IETF.

This is now a Proposed Standard.

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