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From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
To: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [AVTCORE] AES-GCM SRTP (RFC 7714) KDF implementation
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So I have investigated this a bit more and here is what I have found. 100s,=
 if not more, products all implemented it one way. There is an unverified r=
umor of 1 product that might have implemented it the other way but I can't =
seem to duplicate this. There is no rational plan of how one would do backw=
ards interpretability with the existing stuff if we changed this from how i=
t works now. One might do trial decryptions but from a practical point of v=
iew, this is awful to implement and from a theoretical point of view it wea=
kens the security so that solution is worse in every way. There are no secu=
rity differences between padding at front or back in this case.=20

I feel very strongly we need to stick with the running code and not break a=
ll the existing stuff that has been successfully doing this for many years.=
 Just document the what is in the code and lets move on.=20

Martin, are you OK with staying with the running code?




> On Aug 25, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> wrote:
>=20
> So to be pragmatic about this ... how much running code will either choic=
e A or B break? Do we need to make a new version this somehow if we are bre=
aking deployed code so that running code knows which version it is dealing =
with and what to do?
>=20
>=20
>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:21 AM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>>=20
>> On 24 August 2016 at 11:53, Paul E. Jones <paulej@packetizer.com> wrote:
>>> RFC 7714 specified a salt length of 12 octets.  And that's where the pr=
oblem
>>> comes in.
>>=20
>> If you (and 7714) were to use "master salt" consistently, the
>> confusion would have been easily avoided.
>>=20
>> Either way, I agree that clarification is helpful.  My inclination is
>> to take option 1 here.  That matches S4.1.1 of 3711 where it defines
>> using right-alignment and it matches my understanding of the
>> mathematics used in 3711 (x is multiplied by 2^16, so presumably these
>> are big-endian numbers we are talking about rather than octet
>> sequences).
>>=20
>> Option 2 seems like an error (assuming 7714 really does define
>> master_salt as being 12 octets), driven by examples rather than
>> normative language.  Options 3 and 4 (pad after XOR) don't fit with
>> the interpretation.
>>=20
>> My guess is that 3711 doesn't define how big x is (that is, the output
>> of the XOR) because it assumes this to be a mere number.  It seems
>> like an oversight though.
>>=20
>> So I guess that my conclusion is that no one is right.
>>=20
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On 14 January 2017 at 03:21, Cullen Jennings (fluffy) <fluffy@cisco.com> wrote:
> Martin, are you OK with staying with the running code?


Write it down clearly and I can live with any old rubbish.  It's the
internet we've got after all.

Just make sure that there are errata against the affected specs so
that we can avoid people making the problem worse by using the
interpretation that - at least to me - seems more obvious.


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specialists, to meet new colleagues, collect new ideas, and establish 
new cooperation between research groups from universities, research 
centers, and private sectors from the whole Europe, America, Asia, 
Australia, and Africa.

*TOPICS:

*TSP 2017 has opened *Call for Special Session and Workshop Proposals* 
(deadline set for February 20, 2017) and *Call for Regular Full Paper 
Submissions* with a deadline February 24, 2017. We look forward to your 
innovative contributions in any of the following areas:
*
*AREA 1: Telecommunications

1. Information Systems
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3. Network Technologies
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5. Modelling, Simulation and Measurement

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6. Analog Signal Processing
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9. Digital Signal Processing
10. Image and Video Signal Processing

For more details please visit the Conference website at 
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*SPECIAL SESSIONS:

*Prospective Organizers are invited to submit proposals for *Special 
Sessions and Workshops* held during the TSP 2017 Conference. The 
following Workshop and Special Sessions are approved so far:

WS1: 7th SPLab Workshop of Signal Processing Laboratory
SS1: Special Session on Image Processing to Diagnose, Monitor, and 
Control by Prof. Dan Popescu & Dr. Loretta Ichim (University Politehnica 
of Bucharest, Romania)
SS2: Special Session on Fractional-Order Systems; Analysis, Synthesis 
and Their Importance for Future Design by Assoc. Prof. Jaroslav Koton 
et. al (Brno University of Technology, Czech Republic) - COST Action 
CA15225 MC Chair

*STUDENT BEST PAPER AWARD:

*In cooperation with IEEE Czechoslovakia Section SP/CAS/COM Joint 
Chapter, to recognize outstanding technical contributions by students, 
as evidenced by the quality of papers, their presentations, and their 
technical excellence, the authors of the _Best 3 Student Papers_ will be 
awarded during the conference by the Technical Committee. /The Best 
Student Paper Award consists in a Certificate of Appreciation Plaque and 
an IEEE Student or IEEE Graduate Student membership for 2018./

*ORGANIZERS:

*The TSP 2017 is IEEE technically co-sponsored Conference organized in 
cooperation with sixteen universities:

- Brno University of Technology, Department of Telecommunications, Brno, 
Czech Republic
- Budapest University of Technology and Economics, Department of 
Telecommunications and Media Informatics, Budapest, Hungary
- Czech Technical University in Prague, Department of Telecommunication 
Engineering, Prague, Czech Republic
- Isik University, Department of Electrical and Electronics Engineering, 
Sile/Istanbul, Turkey
- Istanbul Technical University, Electronics and Communication 
Engineering Department, Istanbul, Turkey
- Karadeniz Technical University, Department of Electrical and 
Electronics Engineering, Trabzon, Turkey
- National Taiwan University of Science and Technology, Department of 
Electronic and Computer Engineering, Taipei, Taiwan
- Seikei University, Graduate School and Faculty of Science and 
Technology, Information Networking Laboratory, Tokyo, Japan
- Slovak University of Technology, Institute of Telecommunications, 
Bratislava, Slovak Republic
- Tecnocampus, Escola Universitaria Politecnica de Mataro, Mataro, Spain
- Technical University of Sofia, Faculty of Telecommunications, Sofia, 
Bulgaria
- Universite Paris 8, UFR MITSIC, Laboratoire d'Informatique Avancee de 
Saint-Denis (LIASD), France
- University of Ljubljana, Laboratory for Telecommunications, Ljubljana, 
Slovenia
- University of Osijek, Faculty of Electrical Engineering, Computer 
Science and Information Technology Osijek, Croatia
- VSB - Technical University of Ostrava, Department of 
Telecommunications, Ostrava, Czech Republic
- West Pomeranian University of Technology, Faculty of Electrical 
Engineering, Szczecin, Poland

*COMMITTEES:
*
- Miloslav Filka, Brno University of Technology, Czech Republic - Full 
Professor, TSP Conference Founder - Honorary Chair
- Norbert Herencsar, Brno University of Technology, Czech Republic - 
IEEE Czechoslovakia Section CAS/COM/SP Joint Chapter Chair, IEEE Senior 
Member - General Co-Chair
- Marcos Faundez-Zanuy, Escola Universitaria Politecnica de Mataro, 
Tecnocampus, Spain - Dean - General Co-Chair
- Jaroslav Koton, Brno University of Technology, Czech Republic, IEEE 
Senior Member - Publications Chair
- Jiri Hosek, Brno University of Technology, Czech Republic, IEEE Member 
- Student Paper Contest Chair
- Aslihan Kartci, Brno University of Technology, Czech Republic - 
Publicity & Social Media Chair
- Nandor Matrai, Asszisztencia Congress Bureau, Hungary - Managing 
Director - Finance Chair
- Dora Kapitany, Asszisztencia Congress Bureau, Hungary - Project 
Manager - Registrations Chair

/Steering//Committee:
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- Larbi Boubchir, Université Paris 8, France - Associate Professor, IEEE 
Senior Member
- Izzet Cem Goknar, Isik University, Turkey - Institute of Science 
Director & Circuits and Systems (CAS) Society Turkey Chapter Chair, IEEE 
Life Fellow
- Ray-Guang Cheng, National Taiwan University of Science and Technology 
(NTUST), Taiwan - Full Professor, IEEE Senior Member
- Ismail Kaya, Karadeniz Technical University, Turkey
- Sridhar Krishnan, Ryerson University, Canada - Associate Dean, IEEE 
Senior Member
- Mario Kusek, University of Zagreb, Croatia, IEEE Member - IEEE Croatia 
Section Communications Chapter Chair
- Shahram Minaei, Dogus University, Turkey - Full Professor, IEEE Senior 
Member
- Ram M. Narayanan, The Pennsylvania State University, USA - Full 
Professor, IEEE Fellow
- Kimio Oguchi, Seikei University, Japan - Full Professor, IEEE Senior 
Member
- Serdar Ozoguz, Istanbul Technical University, Turkey - Full Professor, 
Associate Chair
- Jakub Peksinski, West Pomeranian University of Technology, Poland
- Hector Perez-Meana, National Polytechnic Institute, Mexico - Full 
Professor, IEEE Senior Member
- Vladimir Poulkov, Technical University of Sofia, Bulgaria - Dean, IEEE 
Senior Member
- Costas Psychalinos, University of Patras, Greece - Full Professor, 
IEEE Senior Member
- Markus Rupp, Vienna University of Technology, Austria - Dean, IEEE Fellow
- Zdenek Smekal, Brno University of Technology, Czech Republic - Full 
Professor, IEEE Senior Member
- Attila Vidacs, Budapest University of Technology and Economics, 
Hungary - Deputy Head of Department
- Miroslav Voznak, VŠB-Technical University of Ostrava, Czech Republic - 
Department Chair, IEEE Senior Member
- Drago Zagar, University of Osijek, Croatia - Dean, IEEE Senior Member

*IMPORTANT DATES:

Special Session and Workshop Proposals: *February 20, 2017*
Full Paper Submission: *February 24, 2017*
**Notification of Paper Acceptance: *April 14, 2017*
Final Paper Submission: *April 28, 2017*
Authors' Early Registration and Payment: *May 14, 2017*
Authors' Late Registration and Payment: *May 24, 2017*
Listeners' Registration: *July 5, 2017*
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*Formore information please visit the Conference website at 
http://tsp.vutbr.cz/. We are also ready to answer your questions emailed 
to tsp@feec.vutbr.cz <mailto:tsp@feec.vutbr.cz>.

Looking forward to meeting you in Barcelona, Spain.

With best regards,

Norbert Herencsar and Marcos Faundez-Zanuy
TSP 2017 General Co-Chairs

Web: http://tsp.vutbr.cz/
E-mail: tsp@feec.vutbr.cz <mailto:tsp@feec.vutbr.cz>

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doc. Ing. Norbert Herencsar, Ph.D., IEEE Senior Member - IEEE 
Czechoslovakia Section SP/CAS/COM Joint Chapter Chair
Department of Telecommunications
Brno University of Technology
Brno, Czech Republic

&

Prof. Dr. Marcos Faundez-Zanuy - Dean
Escola Universitaria Politecnica de Mataro, Tecnocampus
Mataro, Spain


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                    </span><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>*** <br>
                    <br>
                    <b>2017 40th International Conference on
                      Telecommunications and Signal
                      Processing (TSP)<br>
                      July 5-7, 2017, Barcelona, Spain<br>
                    </b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">Web: <a
                        href="http://tsp.vutbr.cz/"><span
                          style="mso-bidi-font-style:italic"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tsp.vutbr.cz/">http://tsp.vutbr.cz/</a></span></a><br>
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                    Technically co-sponsored by <a
                      href="http://www.ieeer8.org/">IEEE Region 8</a>,
                    <a href="http://www.ieeespain.org/">EEE Spain
                      Section</a>, <a href="http://ieee.cz/en">IEEE
                      Czechoslovakia Section</a>, <a
                      href="http://ieee.cz/cascom">IEEE Czechoslovakia
                      Section SP/CAS/COM Joint
                      Chapter</a>, and <a
                      href="http://www.ieee.hr/ieeesection/odjeli_chapteri/com19">IEEE
Croatia
                      Section Communications Chapter</a>.<br>
                    <br>
                    The TSP 2017 Proceedings, containing presented
                    papers at the Conference, will
                    be sent for indexing in the <span
                      style="mso-bidi-font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-style:
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                        Xplore® Digital Library</a>
                      registered under</span> <u><span
                        style="color:blue"><a
href="http://www.ieee.org/conferences_events/conferences/organizers/conf_app.html?confRecNum=41294">IEEE
Conference
                          Record #41294</a></span></u>, <span
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                          style="mso-bidi-font-style:italic">SCOPUS</span></a></span>,
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                    Authors of the best rated and presented papers will
                    be invited for publishing in
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                    <br>
                    Dear Colleague<span class="GramE">,</span><br>
                    <br>
                    You are kindly invited to participate in the <b>2017
                      40th International
                      Conference on Telecommunications and Signal
                      Processing (TSP - </b><span
                      style="mso-bidi-font-weight:bold"><a
                        href="http://tsp.vutbr.cz/"><span
                          style="mso-bidi-font-style:italic"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://tsp.vutbr.cz/">http://tsp.vutbr.cz/</a></span></a><b>)</b></span>,
                    which will be held on <b>July 5-7, <st1:metricconverter
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                          style="font-weight:normal;mso-bidi-font-weight:bold">,</span>
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                      <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Barcelona</st1:city>,
                        <st1:country-region w:st="on">Spain</st1:country-region></st1:place></b>.<br>
                    <br>
                    The TSP Conference serves as a premier annual
                    international forum to promote
                    the exchange of the latest advances in
                    telecommunication technology and signal
                    processing. The aim of the Conference is to bring
                    together both novice and
                    experienced scientists, developers, and specialists,
                    to meet new colleagues,
                    collect new ideas, and establish new cooperation
                    between research groups from
                    universities, research centers, and private sectors
                    from the whole Europe, <st1:country-region
                      w:st="on">America</st1:country-region>, Asia, <st1:country-region
                      w:st="on">Australia</st1:country-region>,
                    and <st1:place w:st="on">Africa</st1:place>.<br>
                    <br>
                    <b>TOPICS<span class="GramE">:</span><br>
                      <br>
                    </b>TSP 2017 has opened <b>Call for Special Session
                      and Workshop Proposals</b>
                    (<span style="color:red">deadline set for February
                      20, 2017</span>) and <b>Call
                      for Regular Full Paper Submissions</b> with a <span
                      style="color:red">deadline
                      February 24, 2017</span>. We look forward to your
                    innovative contributions in
                    any of the following areas<span class="GramE">:</span><br>
                    <b><br>
                    </b>AREA 1: Telecommunications <br>
                    <br>
                    1. <span class="GramE">Information Systems <br>
                      2.</span> <span class="GramE">Network Services <br>
                      3.</span> <span class="GramE">Network
                      Technologies <br>
                      4.</span> <span class="GramE">Telecommunication
                      Systems<br>
                      5.</span> <span class="SpellE">Modelling</span>,
                    Simulation and Measurement<br>
                    <br>
                    AREA 2: Signal Processing <br>
                    <br>
                    6. <span class="GramE">Analog Signal Processing <br>
                      7.</span> <span class="GramE">Audio, Speech and
                      Language Processing <br>
                      8.</span> <span class="GramE">Biomedical Signal
                      Processing <br>
                      9.</span> <span class="GramE">Digital Signal
                      Processing <br>
                      10.</span> Image and Video Signal Processing <br>
                    <br>
                    For more details please visit the Conference website
                    at <span style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
                      bold"><a href="http://tsp.vutbr.cz/?page_id=121">http://tsp.vutbr.cz/?page_id=121</a></span>.<br>
                    <br>
                    <b>SPECIAL SESSIONS<span class="GramE">:</span><br>
                      <br>
                    </b>Prospective Organizers are invited to submit
                    proposals for <b>Special
                      Sessions and Workshops</b> held during the TSP
                    2017 Conference. The following Workshop
                    and Special Sessions are approved so far<span
                      class="GramE">:</span><br>
                    <br>
                    WS1: 7th <span class="SpellE">SPLab</span> Workshop
                    of Signal Processing
                    Laboratory<br>
                    SS1: Special Session on Image Processing to
                    Diagnose, Monitor, and Control by
                    Prof. Dan <span class="SpellE">Popescu</span> &amp;
                    Dr. Loretta <span class="SpellE">Ichim</span>
                    (University <span class="SpellE">Politehnica</span>
                    of
                    Bucharest, Romania)<br>
                    SS2: Special Session on Fractional-Order Systems;
                    Analysis, Synthesis and Their
                    Importance for Future Design by Assoc. Prof. <span
                      class="SpellE">Jaroslav</span>
                    <span class="SpellE">Koton</span> et. al (Brno
                    University of Technology, Czech
                    Republic) - COST Action CA15225 MC Chair<br>
                    <br>
                    <b>STUDENT BEST PAPER AWARD<span class="GramE">:</span><br>
                      <br>
                    </b>In cooperation with IEEE Czechoslovakia Section
                    SP/CAS/COM Joint Chapter,
                    to recognize outstanding technical contributions by
                    students, as evidenced by
                    the quality of papers, their presentations, and
                    their technical excellence, the
                    authors of the <u>Best 3 Student Papers</u> will be
                    awarded during the
                    conference by the Technical Committee. <i>The Best
                      Student Paper Award consists
                      in a Certificate of Appreciation Plaque and an
                      IEEE Student or IEEE Graduate
                      Student membership for 2018.</i> <br>
                    <br>
                    <b>ORGANIZERS: <br>
                      <br>
                    </b>The TSP 2017 is IEEE technically co-sponsored
                    Conference organized in
                    cooperation with sixteen universities: <br>
                    <br>
                    - Brno University of Technology, Department of
                    Telecommunications, Brno, Czech
                    Republic<br>
                    - Budapest University of Technology and Economics,
                    Department of
                    Telecommunications and Media Informatics, Budapest,
                    Hungary<br>
                    - Czech Technical University in Prague, Department
                    of Telecommunication
                    Engineering, Prague, Czech Republic<br>
                    - <span class="SpellE">Isik</span> University,
                    Department of Electrical and
                    Electronics Engineering, <span class="SpellE">Sile</span>/Istanbul,
                    Turkey<br>
                    - Istanbul Technical University, Electronics and
                    Communication Engineering
                    Department, Istanbul, Turkey<br>
                    - <span class="SpellE">Karadeniz</span> Technical
                    University, Department of
                    Electrical and Electronics Engineering, Trabzon,
                    Turkey<br>
                    - National Taiwan University of Science and
                    Technology, Department of
                    Electronic and Computer Engineering, Taipei, Taiwan<br>
                    - <span class="SpellE">Seikei</span> University,
                    Graduate School and Faculty of
                    Science and Technology, Information Networking
                    Laboratory, Tokyo, Japan<br>
                    - Slovak University of Technology, Institute of
                    Telecommunications, Bratislava,
                    Slovak Republic<br>
                    - <span class="SpellE">Tecnocampus</span>, <span
                      class="SpellE">Escola</span> <span class="SpellE">Universitaria</span>
                    <span class="SpellE">Politecnica</span> de <span
                      class="SpellE">Mataro</span>, <span
                      class="SpellE">Mataro</span>, Spain<br>
                    - Technical University of Sofia, Faculty of
                    Telecommunications, Sofia, Bulgaria<br>
                    - <span class="SpellE">Universite</span> Paris 8,
                    UFR MITSIC, <span class="SpellE">Laboratoire</span>
                    <span class="SpellE">d'Informatique</span> <span
                      class="SpellE">Avancee</span> de
                    Saint-Denis (LIASD), France<br>
                    - University of Ljubljana, Laboratory for
                    Telecommunications, Ljubljana,
                    Slovenia<br>
                    - University of Osijek, Faculty of Electrical
                    Engineering, Computer Science and
                    Information Technology Osijek, Croatia<br>
                    - VSB - Technical University of Ostrava, Department
                    of Telecommunications,
                    Ostrava, Czech Republic<br>
                    - West Pomeranian University of Technology, Faculty
                    of Electrical Engineering,
                    Szczecin, Poland<br>
                    <br>
                    <b>COMMITTEES:<br>
                    </b></span><br>
                  - Miloslav <span class="SpellE">Filka</span>, Brno
                  University <span class="SpellE">of</span>
                  Technology, <span class="SpellE">Czech</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Republic</span>
                  - <span class="SpellE">Full</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Professor</span>, TSP <span
                    class="SpellE">Conference</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Founder</span> - <span
                    class="SpellE">Honorary</span> <span class="SpellE">Chair</span><br>
                  - Norbert Herencsar, Brno University <span
                    class="SpellE">of</span> Technology, <span
                    class="SpellE">Czech</span> <span class="SpellE">Republic</span>
                  - IEEE <span class="SpellE">Czechoslovakia</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Section</span> CAS/COM/SP
                  <span class="SpellE">Joint</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Chapter</span> <span class="SpellE">Chair</span>,
                  IEEE Senior <span class="SpellE">Member</span> - <span
                    class="SpellE">General</span> Co-<span
                    class="SpellE">Chair</span><br>
                  - <span class="SpellE">Marcos</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Faundez</span>-<span class="SpellE">Zanuy</span>,
                  <span class="SpellE">Escola</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Universitaria</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Politecnica</span> de <span
                    class="SpellE">Mataro</span>, <span class="SpellE">Tecnocampus</span>,
                  <span class="SpellE">Spain</span> - <span
                    class="SpellE">Dean</span> - <span class="SpellE">General</span>
                  Co-<span class="SpellE">Chair</span><br>
                  - Jaroslav <span class="SpellE">Koton</span>, Brno
                  University <span class="SpellE">of</span>
                  Technology, <span class="SpellE">Czech</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Republic</span>,
                  IEEE Senior <span class="SpellE">Member</span> - <span
                    class="SpellE">Publications</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Chair</span><br>
                  - <span class="SpellE">Jiri</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Hosek</span>, Brno
                  University <span class="SpellE">of</span> Technology,
                  <span class="SpellE">Czech</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Republic</span>, IEEE <span
                    class="SpellE">Member</span> -
                  Student <span class="SpellE">Paper</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Contest</span> <span class="SpellE">Chair</span><br>
                  - <span class="SpellE">Aslihan</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Kartci</span>, Brno
                  University <span class="SpellE">of</span> Technology,
                  <span class="SpellE">Czech</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Republic</span> - Publicity &amp;
                  <span class="SpellE">Social</span>
                  Media <span class="SpellE">Chair</span><br>
                  - <span class="SpellE">Nandor</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Matrai</span>, <span class="SpellE">Asszisztencia</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Congress</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Bureau</span>, <span class="SpellE">Hungary</span>
                  - <span class="SpellE">Managing</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Director</span> - Finance <span
                    class="SpellE">Chair</span><br>
                  - Dora <span class="SpellE">Kapitany</span>, <span
                    class="SpellE">Asszisztencia</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Congress</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Bureau</span>, <span class="SpellE">Hungary</span>
                  - Project Manager - <span class="SpellE">Registrations</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Chair</span><br>
                  <br>
                  <span class="SpellE"><i
                      style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">Steering</i></span><i
                    style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"> <span
                      class="SpellE">Committee</span>:<br>
                  </i><br>
                  - <span class="SpellE">Larbi</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Boubchir</span>, <span
                    class="SpellE">Université</span> Paris 8, France - <span
                    class="SpellE">Associate</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Professor</span>, IEEE Senior <span
                    class="SpellE">Member</span><br>
                  - <span class="SpellE">Izzet</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Cem</span> <span class="SpellE">Goknar</span>,
                  <span class="SpellE">Isik</span> University, <span
                    class="SpellE">Turkey</span> - Institute <span
                    class="SpellE">of</span> Science <span
                    class="SpellE">Director</span> &amp; <span
                    class="SpellE">Circuits</span> <span class="SpellE">and</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Systems</span> (CAS) Society <span
                    class="SpellE">Turkey</span> <span class="SpellE">Chapter</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Chair</span>, IEEE <span
                    class="SpellE">Life</span> <span class="SpellE">Fellow</span><br>
                  - <span class="SpellE">Ray</span>-<span
                    class="SpellE">Guang</span> <span class="SpellE">Cheng</span>,
                  <span class="SpellE">National</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Taiwan</span> University <span
                    class="SpellE">of</span> Science <span
                    class="SpellE">and</span> Technology (NTUST), <span
                    class="SpellE">Taiwan</span> - <span class="SpellE">Full</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Professor</span>, IEEE Senior <span
                    class="SpellE">Member</span><br>
                  - <span class="SpellE">Ismail</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Kaya</span>, <span class="SpellE">Karadeniz</span>
                  <span class="SpellE">Technical</span> University, <span
                    class="SpellE">Turkey</span><br>
                  - <span class="SpellE">Sridhar</span> <span
                    class="SpellE">Krishnan</span>, <span
                    class="SpellE">Ryerson</span> University, <span
                    class="SpellE">Canada</span> - <span class="SpellE">Associate</span>
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WGs,

Below you find the chairs and ADs proposal for an AVT WG charter, 
covering the work currently done by AVTCORE and AVTEXT WG. If you have 
any issues, suggestions or other proposals, please provide them no later 
than the 14th of February.


Charter text
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The Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) along with its associated 
profiles and payload formats provides for real-time transmission of 
audio and video over unicast and multicast transports. RTP is widely 
implemented, and deployed for a wide range of applications, ranging from 
telephony to television over IP. RTP itself has been shepherded to Full 
Standard. Its associated profiles, extensions, and payload formats are 
currently at various levels of standards maturity. As new applications 
have emerged, the need for guidelines for the use of the RTP/RTCP 
protocols and extensions specific to those applications has been identified.

The AVT working group is chartered to maintain the core RTP/RTCP 
specifications and the AVP, SAVP, AVPF, and SAVPF profiles. The group 
will provide architectural guidance for extending the protocols and 
guidelines for their proper use. While other working groups are 
chartered to work on RTCP Extended Report Extensions (XRBLOCK) and RTP 
Payload Formats (PAYLOAD), extensions that are generally applicable will 
be developed in AVT. The AVT working group is also charted to develop 
application-specific guidelines for the use of RTP/RTCP protocols with 
the AVP, SAVP, AVPF, and SAVPF profiles, and extensions to those 
protocols that are driven by application-specific needs.

The AVT working group will coordinate closely with the Security Area 
while working on maintenance and enhancements to the SRTP Profile (SAVP).

---- End of Charter Text

Milestone that exist in either of the groups will be moved to the AVT WG.

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Magnus Westerlund

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