From nobody Wed Apr 1 09:08:50 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B447A3A11C1 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:08:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.603 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.603 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ens.fr Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qwni3wwdCdA9 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AE3C3A11BE for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:08:47 -0700 (PDT) X-ENS-nef-client: 129.199.1.22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ens.fr; s=default; t=1585757325; bh=tv0y3HbkrbjoutUCJNOZcgArWDVVHsOahCuoxBMFw98=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=HUm8t0+M2GmtxrstBf+WQcm9mj0YXMDl7cio9JSYYODyBfksZFY6voogyhtnC4pDE isnse00SYHKra1UEzna3I7Mves7SEmOAVOeZainKEx3qta83atVPvxG16iMI9Nplh7 EIc2BY5cL2zg4WSAxgZS/MWrTuW5FcyfIDKqDaJQ= Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef.ens.fr (8.14.4/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id 031G8iZA013289 ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 18:08:44 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.14] using smtps by clipper.ens.fr (8.14.4/jb-1.1) id 031G8i1m020687 ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 18:08:44 +0200 (authenticated user tbastian) X-ENS-Received: (91-160-99-187.subs.proxad.net [91.160.99.187]) To: babel@ietf.org, babel-users@lists.alioth.debian.org References: <87o8scpgkq.wl-jch@irif.fr> <877dz0iayl.fsf@toke.dk> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Th=c3=a9ophile_Bastian?= Message-ID: <8c4ed02b-72b0-96a8-0492-9d45016ea5a9@ens.fr> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 18:08:41 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <877dz0iayl.fsf@toke.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US-large Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 01 Apr 2020 18:08:45 +0200 (CEST) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [babel] [Babel-users] IPv4 over IPv6 X-BeenThere: babel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the Babel Routing Protocol." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 16:08:50 -0000 Dear all, I discussed this again with Juliusz, and we also agreed that (2) is more natural, both conceptually and in the code itself — at least in babeld. I'll rewrite the code shortly with option (2). -- Théophile Bastian From nobody Wed Apr 1 09:50:26 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DFC3A1365 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:50:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qc_C0YeHrgVM for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21FBB3A13DA for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 09:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/82085) with ESMTP id 031GoA2F005988; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 18:50:10 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEEBDE716C; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 18:50:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id p8_bqmvEfIl2; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 18:50:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pirx.irif.fr (unknown [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02A9EE7168; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 18:50:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 18:50:08 +0200 Message-ID: <87h7y3881r.wl-jch@irif.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Th=E9ophile?= Bastian Cc: babel@ietf.org, babel-users@lists.alioth.debian.org In-Reply-To: <8c4ed02b-72b0-96a8-0492-9d45016ea5a9@ens.fr> References: <87o8scpgkq.wl-jch@irif.fr> <877dz0iayl.fsf@toke.dk> <8c4ed02b-72b0-96a8-0492-9d45016ea5a9@ens.fr> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]); Wed, 01 Apr 2020 18:50:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 5E84C642.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 5E84C642.002 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 5E84C642.002 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Archived-At: Subject: Re: [babel] [Babel-users] IPv4 over IPv6 X-BeenThere: babel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the Babel Routing Protocol." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 16:50:24 -0000 > I discussed this again with Juliusz, and we also agreed that (2) is > more natural, both conceptually and in the code itself — at least in > babeld. I'll rewrite the code shortly with option (2). Let's all sympathise with this poor intern who has to redo everything because his supervisor keeps changing his mind. Thanks, Théo. -- Juliusz From nobody Wed Apr 1 12:58:43 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1DCD3A188D for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:58:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=toke.dk Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rZzCaDxjFw8F for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [IPv6:2a0c:4d80:42:2001::664]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CD743A188B for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:58:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1585771112; bh=VM3asjFpGk6zu8Fr31SY9lm2d8g7JnNxBovAtnpqZo4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=VRWWOY5F8cRib4OKf4WCogkVlzN4ioBsB5iPLFbIGPuL/PPc5IQ/UwjT/BAhzp+sn aL3zX2VAviTGi3NxSj0rWje4mnsxk6Tc2fLUMtRlRRmKLpFwGrpF9U6S7KZ27RLnEo WRkNkNft9jE6nZHwKgELy601UO2NlaL86KtZC3t5x9Y7iDG1uW/IVrQWn9IeCZPVgP KTmckngEdJwLSJ6hIcQ0djGxtWPJTwmqcPuebb9r2aR+YZ8hz/6s3Dgt4l8Orc4Let yMWHu3aeHnKLoQ9iIjWuj+ho9R5Q/W2u6Gu5v1eEdsEdpXANpOpss9FdFOVB7+8BQ6 ItyYWJ1Yesj6Q== To: Juliusz Chroboczek , =?utf-8?Q?Th=C3=A9ophile?= Bastian Cc: babel-users@lists.alioth.debian.org, babel@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <87h7y3881r.wl-jch@irif.fr> References: <87o8scpgkq.wl-jch@irif.fr> <877dz0iayl.fsf@toke.dk> <8c4ed02b-72b0-96a8-0492-9d45016ea5a9@ens.fr> <87h7y3881r.wl-jch@irif.fr> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 21:58:32 +0200 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87y2rff05z.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [babel] [Babel-users] IPv4 over IPv6 X-BeenThere: babel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the Babel Routing Protocol." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 19:58:41 -0000 Juliusz Chroboczek writes: >> I discussed this again with Juliusz, and we also agreed that (2) is >> more natural, both conceptually and in the code itself =E2=80=94 at leas= t in >> babeld. I'll rewrite the code shortly with option (2). > > Let's all sympathise with this poor intern who has to redo everything > because his supervisor keeps changing his mind. Much sympathy indeed. Th=C3=A9o, the trick to avoiding this repeating itself too many times is to develop a keen sense for when your supervisor is wrong, and managing him accordingly ;) -Toke From nobody Wed Apr 15 03:02:01 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D923A0957; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 03:01:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WvSPZglovgq0; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 03:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A7DAF3A0958; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 03:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F05C8F2; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 06:01:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 15 Apr 2020 06:01:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=LR86iWFbxcFWRQ2y7s9TAOZgcq3RoD9A+K284NU2E do=; b=U60aifaylGsucgFWEraKj8FczONvL5ts7x5x4mmtQ8+/+sYeKy8YN+1ja dEDGsTiEyBSR+6i6Ly705yBPx9OKWvRrIjLKR3BbI768e3GR/NN//gW1zobdvDeN AVhkqHIKEbNn2f7UsunV6RdBK91/AgFggtZP5rYuiT6XDiGscQT/qCbT9+8BI3FQ Ti1wEkN5k2Aa8sCDuOKQDHqJt4ZstNhAs0fGcCBegttHrQwS1KXQpy58WGUT45Lq 7JuZfiNIdo+bFLETtBs1mcc4Q5slH95LRCZNYZbZkkIINT3PA2kJvJhZGc3r3GMF ToANnKKEhUWxuapzc3IUs2YWFy/MQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduhedrfeefgdduudcutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenuc fjughrpefhvfhfjgfufffkgggtgffothesthhqghdtvddtjeenucfhrhhomhepfdftuhhs shcuhghhihhtvgdfuceorhhushhssehrihifrdhusheqnecukfhppeejtddrgedtrdduud efrdduheenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhm pehruhhsshesrhhifidruhhs X-ME-Proxy: Received: from RussPC (unknown [70.40.113.15]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8DB39328005A; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 06:01:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Russ White" To: "'Donald Eastlake'" , "'Babel at IETF'" Cc: "'babel-chairs'" References: <878sk8gt6e.wl-jch@irif.fr> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 06:01:26 -0400 Message-ID: <05f601d6130c$e5bcf6b0$b136e410$@riw.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQF9sq22bHuuf60vmBp095t3lFqAAQI+68HEAo6LUWsB29B7Kaj1aewQ Content-Language: en-us Archived-At: Subject: Re: [babel] Scheduling a BABEL WG interim meeting X-BeenThere: babel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the Babel Routing Protocol." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 10:01:59 -0000 > My thought is that May is a more realistic target. This seems realistic to me, as well... 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:14:44 -0000 >> My thought is that May is a more realistic target. We've just got online teaching roughly under control, so yes, that seems doable. > This seems realistic to me, as well... Do we have presentations that > need to be... presented? We should be able to submit a draft on v4-over-v6 by then, and one of us should probably be able to do a presentation. -- Juliusz From nobody Wed Apr 15 10:56:33 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: babel@ietf.org Delivered-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96AA3A0EA4; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 10:55:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Martin Duke via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-babel-dtls@ietf.org, babel-chairs@ietf.org, babel@ietf.org, Donald Eastlake , d3e3e3@gmail.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.127.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Martin Duke Message-ID: <158697335130.7636.2812055755117056937@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 10:55:51 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [babel] Martin Duke's No Objection on draft-ietf-babel-dtls-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: babel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A list for discussion of the Babel Routing Protocol." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 17:55:52 -0000 Martin Duke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-babel-dtls-09: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-babel-dtls/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is very well written draft. Nits: - In section 2.1, could we change "nodes could use DTLS connection identifiers" to a MAY? - Please update the DTLS-CID reference; I see that even the current draft is going to expire on 23 April. From nobody Wed Apr 15 11:24:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: babel@ietf.org Delivered-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4D73A0F0F; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:23:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Martin Duke via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-babel-dtls@ietf.org, babel-chairs@ietf.org, babel@ietf.org, Donald Eastlake , d3e3e3@gmail.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.127.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Martin Duke Message-ID: <158697503009.3816.17818202291646032550@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:23:50 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [babel] Martin Duke's No Objection on draft-ietf-babel-dtls-09: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: babel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A list for discussion of the Babel Routing Protocol." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 18:23:50 -0000 Martin Duke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-babel-dtls-09: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-babel-dtls/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is very well written draft. Nits: - - Please update the DTLS-CID reference; I see that even the current draft is going to expire on 23 April. 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Thanks Martin!

We'll make sure to u= pdate the draft references to the latest ones next time we submit an update= d draft.

David

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This is very well written draft. Nits:

- <striking the request to change DTLS-CID to a 2119 word, as this would= create
a Normative downref, which is not worth it> - Please update the DTLS-CID=
reference; I see that even the current draft is going to expire on 23 April= .



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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 19:58:33 -0000 I think it would also be useful to discuss other possible additional work items. See for example the presentation from last November here https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/materials/slides-106-babel-babel-futures-01, although clearly the most interest currently is in v4-over-v6. I would suggest sometime the week of 11 May or 18 May. We should try to avoid conflict with other WGs, particularly related ones, but that doesn't look like a problem: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e3e3@gmail.com On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 7:14 AM Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > > >> My thought is that May is a more realistic target. > > We've just got online teaching roughly under control, so yes, that seems > doable. > > > This seems realistic to me, as well... Do we have presentations that > > need to be... presented? > > We should be able to submit a draft on v4-over-v6 by then, and one of us > should probably be able to do a presentation. > > -- Juliusz > From nobody Wed Apr 15 16:42:59 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: babel@ietf.org Delivered-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ECC93A0D6A; Wed, 15 Apr 2020 16:42:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Martin Duke via Datatracker To: "The IESG" Cc: draft-ietf-babel-hmac@ietf.org, babel-chairs@ietf.org, babel@ietf.org, Donald Eastlake , d3e3e3@gmail.com X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.127.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Martin Duke Message-ID: <158699416097.13765.6337446751341049891@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 16:42:42 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [babel] Martin Duke's No Objection on draft-ietf-babel-hmac-10: (with COMMENT) X-BeenThere: babel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: "A list for discussion of the Babel Routing Protocol." 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The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-babel-hmac/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Nits: - sec 4.3.1.1 please clarify if the challenge request 300ms limit is per neighbor or per sending node (4.3.1.2 says per neighbor for challenge reply; I suspect it’s the same?) - sec 7. “...this sort of resource attacks less effective...” s/attacks/attack” From nobody Thu Apr 16 03:06:33 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: babel@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26E33A154F; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 03:06:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CnzxRSWQCuDV; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 03:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oo1-xc2f.google.com (mail-yw1-xc2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c2f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFA3C3A14AE; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 03:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oo1-xc2f.google.com with SMTP id d21so528545ook.10; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 03:05:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NnM0/c/pXComQ2PLXxUeY95QgFbyWNUne3n6bnVZEiA=; b=qIg2UZ2Bw9rCt6r+djVsh2nTWRW4UmCRodySQG1aatK5t7h4DHD5+MGrQO8US3Hlf3 W/3CW0wS0ZPYEiQB4Lr5lBLrl8Z9G92pZJ8pQ7mMFaMStJKVyJHIIn4pzitYHawlBOib T/+ja7EbPWDM4o2ptUKxR2As2dyv+5/tpArBvaFnshEzA8YWimAVcjlT3a6QDMYRS4UC KJYH4RJfhYWY57/KgZWWz+BGFQartPntce9cTd1WHK5WDr4MNNvLlwIZQBTi/LhxUTp/ pWc37sF70ubzlEJtTL0mc7qr4CPbUhMqy75IOQqvi/xqefYPylZk1Dg6P5RK2bcvwvIr YYpg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NnM0/c/pXComQ2PLXxUeY95QgFbyWNUne3n6bnVZEiA=; b=RfXNzebDimHUqoNxOX518Yfal7RqEb5OL2oXEBZ9cYCasWgNCKLjxBsSRmlA1p53Ja jdoTezgvil4y/W3Pyv5+nwliS9JX7fdBgg7h/onsdR33/325dmbhrZmcfexYVG6oWSnn ZZIC+g8ywOEslTV5/HTGpJhiJXrP1rV8F4HHKJN7XatrjAn4yOaDhyuWy/zic9+OZMwy PvddfymrMX0p8u8uEXDSAVcpsYkBvaTcENBq/cDBzIhXcUKmg+eISj3NIIxxrRBV4xhw 0te242j75EJqHrkV9hwa1knJJ+A5JSrdCBz+Ryh0l3Hjm1v0TI/AyROv1rzOe2vqT/WH TgvA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYs/JtcKI3JtYb471SyfdzISezdKJs742d6hqs8QUE+lUmSLccG tWrEb9FnC+mQ3qNKOrsLfK1a00+LKtNZsD8BeVM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypLay4Kv9jcfiSyJ9crTsfgGAI9MXxfBhdmHpR9yi1qyeHdjJDfEiQRUGutT8LRTg1EQozchKKYCs6lF5dq1OlM= X-Received: by 2002:a4a:3306:: with SMTP id q6mr25537313ooq.81.1587031556956; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 03:05:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <878sk8gt6e.wl-jch@irif.fr> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Antonin_D=C3=A9cimo?= Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:07:26 +0200 Message-ID: To: Donald Eastlake Cc: Babel at IETF , babel-chairs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [babel] Scheduling a BABEL WG interim meeting X-BeenThere: babel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the Babel Routing Protocol." 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([2601:647:5600:5020:30c5:cde3:cb61:84f]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z6sm18762192pgg.39.2020.04.17.13.30.15 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:30:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Mahesh Jethanandani Message-Id: <70394E0A-F7EC-423F-B2B5-CFB1628EFB17@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_46F1BC05-686F-4F31-8FE8-0EE356ED7D97" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.5\)) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 13:30:14 -0700 In-Reply-To: Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Antonin_D=C3=A9cimo?= , Donald Eastlake , babel-chairs , Babel at IETF To: "STARK, BARBARA H" References: <878sk8gt6e.wl-jch@irif.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.5) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [babel] Scheduling a BABEL WG interim meeting X-BeenThere: babel@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "A list for discussion of the Babel Routing Protocol." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:34:41 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_46F1BC05-686F-4F31-8FE8-0EE356ED7D97 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 And those little changes in the info model will imply changes in the = YANG model. But we need not talk about them till the info model = incorporates the changes. Cheers. > On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:19 PM, STARK, BARBARA H wrote: >=20 > Hi Antonin et al, >>=20 >> Hi Donald, hi list, >>=20 >> I had remarks on the MAC draft and on the information model that I = send in >> January. >> I=E2=80=99m completely unaware of the publication schedule for the = two documents, >> so I=E2=80=99m hijacking your mail to ensure that they=E2=80=99re not = forgotten in the abyss of >> mails. >>=20 >> [babel] [patch] Info model: fix little inconsistencies in naming, use = singular for >> objects. >> > mail.com> >>=20 >> Re: Babel-MAC: key size and digest size >> > il.com> >=20 > There are a number of potential little changes to the info model draft = that I think the group might want to consider, including the ones = discussed in January and February. But also resulting from the inclusion = of recommended default configuration parameters in rfc6126bis-17. I need = to put a list together. Maybe I should present on this during an = interim? And our illustrious chairs could tell us if we need a new WGLC = or what. >=20 > One reason I've been holding off creating a complete compilation, is I = was waiting to see if there would be any other changes made to -17 (to = resolve Alvaro's comments?). It would be really good if we had some = strategy in place for moving rfc6126bis along. It's non-publication = makes me very sad. > Barbara > _______________________________________________ > babel mailing list > babel@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/babel Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_46F1BC05-686F-4F31-8FE8-0EE356ED7D97 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 And = those little changes in the info model will imply changes in the YANG = model. But we need not talk about them till the info model incorporates = the changes.

Cheers.

On Apr 17, 2020, at 12:19 PM, = STARK, BARBARA H <bs7652@att.com> wrote:

Hi = Antonin et al,

Hi Donald, hi list,

I had = remarks on the MAC draft and on the information model that I send in
January.
I=E2=80=99m completely unaware of the = publication schedule for the two documents,
so I=E2=80=99m = hijacking your mail to ensure that they=E2=80=99re not forgotten in the = abyss of
mails.

[babel] = [patch] Info model: fix little inconsistencies in naming, use singular = for
objects.
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mail.com>

Re: Babel-MAC: = key size and digest size
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il.com>

There = are a number of potential little changes to the info model draft that I = think the group might want to consider, including the ones discussed in = January and February. But also resulting from the inclusion of = recommended default configuration parameters in rfc6126bis-17. I need to = put a list together. Maybe I should present on this during an interim? = And our illustrious chairs could tell us if we need a new WGLC or = what.

One reason I've been holding off = creating a complete compilation, is I was waiting to see if there would = be any other changes made to -17 (to resolve Alvaro's comments?). It = would be really good if we had some strategy in place for moving = rfc6126bis along. It's non-publication makes me very sad.
Barbara
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