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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
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	Title           : Additional Managed Objects for Network Address Translato=
rs (NAT)
	Author(s)       : Simon Perreault
                          Tina Tsou
                          Senthil Sivakumar
	Filename        : draft-ietf-behave-nat-mib-04.txt
	Pages           : 81
	Date            : 2013-02-20

Abstract:
   This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
   for devices implementing Network Address Translator (NAT) function.
   This MIB module may be used for monitoring of a device capable of NAT
   function.


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	Title           : Syslog Format for NAT Logging
	Author(s)       : Zhonghua Chen
                          Cathy Zhou
                          Tina Tsou
                          T. Taylor
	Filename        : draft-ietf-behave-syslog-nat-logging-00.txt
	Pages           : 8
	Date            : 2013-02-17

Abstract:
   Under some circumstances operators will need to maintain a dynamic
   record of external address and port assignments made by a NAT device
   (e.g.,Carrier Grade NAT (CGN)), and will find it feasible and
   convenient to create such records using SYSLOG (RFC 5424).  The
   present document standardizes a SYSLOG format to meet that recording
   requirement.  It specifies a number of fields that could be a part of
   the log report, leaving it up to operators to select the fields
   needed for their specific circumstances.

   [*** Subject to discussion*** The log format presented here may also
   be used by PCP server implementations to log the mappings they
   implement.]


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Hi Julia,

Sorry for taking so long to reply. I hope you can understand...

Le 2013-01-03 02:03, Julia Renouard a écrit :
> Hi Simon –  I’m finally getting back to your request for review.
>
> Overall I think this is a good update to 4008.   High level feedback
> here (and part of what's taken so long to try and get feedback) - it
> would be helpful if this were reformatted to be clearer.  It is really
> hard to clearly identify which objects have been deprecated and which
> are current or new.  I was spending so much time with my red pen and
> highlighter, that I was unable to give it the concentrated time it
> needs.  So I thought I'd just give you this feedback to start.

Yes, you're not the first to make that remark. We'll do something about 
that. All that needs to be done, and correct me if I'm wrong, is to make 
it *visually* clearer, not actually changing the contents.

It's easy to forget about such things when working in a text editor with 
a search function...

> First - kudos:  I very much appreciate the drive to move away from
> writable elements and away from elements that imply internal designs.
> As you correctly observe, implementations vary widely.  The MIB should
> not make assumptions about internal designs and should only expose
> elements in an abstracted view and are commonly understood and
> implemented by all NATs.  This is great.

I'm glad you like it! :)

> Some suggestions:
>
> In Section 3 you briefly summarize the deprecated and new features, but
> I'd love to see this extended to discuss the tables and top level new,
> changed and deprecated objects along with justifications.  I also wonder
> if it’s possible to discuss the current and new elements alone in their
> own sections.  It is also quite unclear without doing a diff of 4008
> which elements have simply changed –e.g. removed writeability.  You can
> still present a coherent MIB including the deprecated elements, in a
> later section.  But this would make it much easier to read, review and
> implement.   If syntactically legal, it might be nice to also publish
> the reduced MIB of just the current elements (w/o the deprecated ones).

Hmmm... I think a lot of this is solved by grouping together the 
deprecated vs current objects (which we will do). Another insight is 
that *all* of 4008 is now deprecated, and that *all* current objects are 
part of the new features.

If we need more high-level text, this would go in sections 3.2 and 3.3. 
Per-object discussion is intended to be in the MIB itself, as part of 
the DESCRIPTION text.

> Please also call out specific categories of objects as in 4008 section
> 4.  This makes it easier to find what you're looking for.

Will do.

> I'm still wanting to review it for content.   I will continue to do so
> but I wanted to get you something in the meantime.

Thanks. With the new revision out (before Monday's deadline), you'll 
have an easier time reading it.

Simon
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	Title           : Discovery of the IPv6 Prefix Used for IPv6 Address Synth=
esis
	Author(s)       : Teemu Savolainen
                          Jouni Korhonen
                          Dan Wing
	Filename        : draft-ietf-behave-nat64-discovery-heuristic-14.txt
	Pages           : 20
	Date            : 2013-02-25

Abstract:
   This document describes a method for detecting the presence of DNS64
   and for learning the IPv6 prefix used for protocol translation on an
   access network.  The method depends on the existence of a well-known
   IPv4-only fully qualified domain name "ipv4only.arpa".  The
   information learned enables nodes to perform local IPv6 address
   synthesis and to potentially avoid NAT64 on dual-stack and multi-
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	Title           : Additional Managed Objects for Network Address Translato=
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	Author(s)       : Simon Perreault
                          Tina Tsou
                          Senthil Sivakumar
	Filename        : draft-ietf-behave-nat-mib-05.txt
	Pages           : 80
	Date            : 2013-02-25

Abstract:
   This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
   for devices implementing Network Address Translator (NAT) function.
   This MIB module may be used for monitoring of a device capable of NAT
   function.


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WG,

A quick summary of the evolution of this draft.

- In -09 we merged back the CGN stuff that had been forked to the 
sunset4 group.
- In -10 we reorganized the MIB to make clearer what has been obsoleted 
from RFC4008 vs what is new in this draft. Reading, and thus reviewing, 
the draft should now be much easier.

Simon

Le 2013-02-25 19:51, internet-drafts@ietf.org a écrit :
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>   This draft is a work item of the Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance Working Group of the IETF.
>
> 	Title           : Additional Managed Objects for Network Address Translators (NAT)
> 	Author(s)       : Simon Perreault
>                            Tina Tsou
>                            Senthil Sivakumar
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-behave-nat-mib-05.txt
> 	Pages           : 80
> 	Date            : 2013-02-25
>
> Abstract:
>     This memo defines a portion of the Management Information Base (MIB)
>     for devices implementing Network Address Translator (NAT) function.
>     This MIB module may be used for monitoring of a device capable of NAT
>     function.
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts director=
ies.
 This draft is a work item of the Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoida=
nce Working Group of the IETF.

	Title           : Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP) Network Addr=
ess Translation
	Author(s)       : Randall R. Stewart
                          Michael Tuexen
                          Irene Ruengeler
	Filename        : draft-ietf-behave-sctpnat-08.txt
	Pages           : 27
	Date            : 2013-02-25

Abstract:
   Stream Control Transmission Protocol [RFC4960] provides a reliable
   communications channel between two end-hosts in many ways similar to
   TCP [RFC0793].  With the widespread deployment of Network Address
   Translators (NAT), specialized code has been added to NAT for TCP
   that allows multiple hosts to reside behind a NAT and yet use only a
   single globally unique IPv4 address, even when two hosts (behind a
   NAT) choose the same port numbers for their connection.  This
   additional code is sometimes classified as Network Address and Port
   Translation or NAPT.  To date, specialized code for SCTP has NOT yet
   been added to most NATs so that only pure NAT is available.  The end
   result of this is that only one SCTP capable host can be behind a
   NAT.

   This document describes an SCTP specific variant of NAT which
   provides similar features of NAPT in the single point and multi-point
   traversal scenario.


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