From nobody Thu Apr 2 09:35:28 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8051A902D for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:31:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QgqPRY3SOINg; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:31:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43AC1A9007; Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:31:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: , , , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.13.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150401183156.12517.50876.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 11:31:56 -0700 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 09:35:23 -0700 Subject: [BEHAVE] ID Tracker State Update Notice: X-BeenThere: behave@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: mailing list of BEHAVE IETF WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2015 18:31:59 -0000 IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup ID Tracker URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1/ From nobody Thu Apr 2 09:35:30 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F471AC3D5 for ; 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Fri, 3 Apr 2015 01:52:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Auv8OyAEI5GF for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 01:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [IPv6:2001:1900:3001:11::31]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE9D1A1B0D for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 01:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id 764A918045A; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 01:52:20 -0700 (PDT) To: derek.macdonald@gmail.com, bbl@lowekamp.net, spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com, mls.ietf@gmail.com, dwing@cisco.com, dthaler@microsoft.com X-PHP-Originating-Script: 6000:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20150403085220.764A918045A@rfc-editor.org> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 01:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Cc: huxinbang@163.com, behave@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [BEHAVE] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5780 (4327) X-BeenThere: behave@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list of BEHAVE IETF WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 08:52:41 -0000 The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5780, "NAT Behavior Discovery Using Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5780&eid=4327 -------------------------------------- Type: Editorial Reported by: Xinbang Hu Section: 3.6 Original Text ------------- This test apples to UDP and TCP, but not TLS over TCP connections. Corrected Text -------------- This test applies to UDP and TCP, but not TLS over TCP connections. Notes ----- "apples" should be "applies". Instructions: ------------- This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. -------------------------------------- RFC5780 (draft-ietf-behave-nat-behavior-discovery-08) -------------------------------------- Title : NAT Behavior Discovery Using Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) Publication Date : May 2010 Author(s) : D. MacDonald, B. Lowekamp Category : EXPERIMENTAL Source : Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance Area : Transport Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Fri Apr 3 04:17:07 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AC21A8863 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 04:17:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.977 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.977 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wFAIfPl52jOr for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 04:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ig0-f174.google.com (mail-ig0-f174.google.com [209.85.213.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1DF2F1A8856 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 04:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by igcau2 with SMTP id au2so98011465igc.0 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2015 04:17:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8UXJjKiJaxvUNajkdR0s5BG8COfIYe+sAJdHHg7Qgkc=; b=P32qSS4qMnKZFGGuETqyJRxCPj2pIdGXvfoJOaFxZAZrUeYOMPlPd7M8FZuU4A//W9 htv3OAm2qn2RvLhUmVNmI725kuToeDGrJ7J6cT9J8Ezf/c4RQhVC3IATARDwXWocmCMl NDrtNQS3xo8CAozSa8kuDWoTpnSvxT/4NS9FRzZ17S9ETtMdeq/UoxbDuQAY0mnh0Irs MPc1yhu/gP4RQCYbTX+vbI6uJHNr++86duAqBio6Kgfh9yZrLpXb2pQBgnOlmeJhE1eZ aPo4pRVZ2x0rD+uvHi1xm2LTOuDFlZMNj5kE9B5UtOUlBpy3CU51g10/6Pb115++eKz/ gb6w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnpbXKbty+u3EY6EaeSJBDjfA+NPX6EE2Ht4Q8K0N8V3hdNcy8PhQeunfflFwuCd7Wip4MN MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.171.170 with SMTP id av10mr27252590igc.28.1428059822403; Fri, 03 Apr 2015 04:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: bruce@lowekamp.net Received: by 10.64.227.130 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 04:17:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150403085220.764A918045A@rfc-editor.org> References: <20150403085220.764A918045A@rfc-editor.org> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 07:17:02 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DKGBCuxci_ZxnU4_ON4CQ0ffWp4 Message-ID: From: Bruce Lowekamp To: RFC Errata System Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0111c0786ec8cb0512d0162f Archived-At: Cc: behave@ietf.org, dthaler@microsoft.com, huxinbang@163.com, mls.ietf@gmail.com, spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com, Dan Wing , Derek MacDonald Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC5780 (4327) X-BeenThere: behave@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list of BEHAVE IETF WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 11:17:06 -0000 --089e0111c0786ec8cb0512d0162f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I think it's safe for someone to set this one to verified :) Bruce On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:52 AM, RFC Errata System wrote: > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5780, > "NAT Behavior Discovery Using Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN)". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5780&eid=4327 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Editorial > Reported by: Xinbang Hu > > Section: 3.6 > > Original Text > ------------- > This test apples to UDP and TCP, but not TLS over TCP connections. > > Corrected Text > -------------- > This test applies to UDP and TCP, but not TLS over TCP connections. > > Notes > ----- > "apples" should be "applies". > > Instructions: > ------------- > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please > use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or > rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG) > can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC5780 (draft-ietf-behave-nat-behavior-discovery-08) > -------------------------------------- > Title : NAT Behavior Discovery Using Session Traversal > Utilities for NAT (STUN) > Publication Date : May 2010 > Author(s) : D. MacDonald, B. Lowekamp > Category : EXPERIMENTAL > Source : Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance > Area : Transport > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG > > --089e0111c0786ec8cb0512d0162f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think it's safe for someone to set this one to verif= ied :)

Bruce

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:52 AM, RFC Errata System= <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
The following errata report has been submitted for RFC57= 80,
"NAT Behavior Discovery Using Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STU= N)".

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You may review the report below and at:
http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc= =3D5780&eid=3D4327

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Type: Editorial
Reported by: Xinbang Hu <huxinbang@= 163.com>

Section: 3.6

Original Text
-------------
This test apples to UDP and TCP, but not TLS over TCP connections.

Corrected Text
--------------
This test applies to UDP and TCP, but not TLS over TCP connections.

Notes
-----
"apples" should be "applies".

Instructions:
-------------
This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, ple= ase
use "Reply All" to discuss whether it should be verified or
rejected. When a decision is reached, the verifying party (IESG)
can log in to change the status and edit the report, if necessary.

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RFC5780 (draft-ietf-behave-nat-behavior-discovery-08)
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Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: NAT Behavior = Discovery Using Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN)
Publication Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 : May 2010
Author(s)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: D. MacDonald, B. Loweka= mp
Category=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : EXPERIMENTAL
Source=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Behavior Engineeri= ng for Hindrance Avoidance
Area=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : Transport
Stream=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : IETF
Verifying Party=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: IESG


--089e0111c0786ec8cb0512d0162f-- From nobody Fri Apr 17 12:21:07 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2FC1B2FC3; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:21:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UHgi6W1dAuIh; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rfc-editor.org (rfc-editor.org [4.31.198.49]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB6F1B2FBE; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rfc-editor.org (Postfix, from userid 30) id E5295180092; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT) To: spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com, jdrosen@cisco.com, rohan@ekabal.com, philip_matthews@magma.ca, dwing@cisco.com X-PHP-Originating-Script: 1005:errata_mail_lib.php From: RFC Errata System Message-Id: <20150417192019.E5295180092@rfc-editor.org> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Cc: mls.ietf@gmail.com, behave@ietf.org, iesg@ietf.org, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Subject: [BEHAVE] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5389 (3737) X-BeenThere: behave@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list of BEHAVE IETF WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:21:05 -0000 The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC5389, "Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN)". -------------------------------------- You may review the report below and at: http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5389&eid=3737 -------------------------------------- Status: Held for Document Update Type: Editorial Reported by: Spencer Dawkins Date Reported: 2013-09-25 Held by: Martin Stiemerling (IESG) Section: 17 Original Text ------------- The IAB has mandated that protocols developed for this purpose document a specific set of considerations. Corrected Text -------------- The IAB has suggested that protocols developed for this purpose document a specific set of considerations. Notes ----- The IAB UNSAF RFC (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3424) is Informational, and the IAB hasn't "mandated" what IETF protocol documents contain for something like 20 years, if I understand correctly. -------------------------------------- RFC5389 (draft-ietf-behave-rfc3489bis-18) -------------------------------------- Title : Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) Publication Date : October 2008 Author(s) : J. Rosenberg, R. Mahy, P. Matthews, D. Wing Category : PROPOSED STANDARD Source : Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance Area : Transport Stream : IETF Verifying Party : IESG From nobody Fri Apr 17 12:48:25 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603001A007A; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:48:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.902 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.902 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vIVSOmoP4IBa; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0145.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AB091B2FDD; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 12:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BY2PR03MB412.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.141.25) by BY2PR03MB411.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.141.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.136.17; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:48:20 +0000 Received: from BY2PR03MB412.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.141.25]) by BY2PR03MB412.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.141.25]) with mapi id 15.01.0136.026; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:48:20 +0000 From: Dave Thaler To: RFC Errata System , "spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com" , "jdrosen@cisco.com" , "rohan@ekabal.com" , "philip_matthews@magma.ca" , "dwing@cisco.com" Thread-Topic: [BEHAVE] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5389 (3737) Thread-Index: AQHQeUOs3/g7UwaPE0amZi9wDDZ2h51RmXtA Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:48:19 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20150417192019.E5295180092@rfc-editor.org> In-Reply-To: <20150417192019.E5295180092@rfc-editor.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: rfc-editor.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none; x-originating-ip: [2001:4898:80e0:ee43::4] x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR03MB411; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-forefront-antispam-report: BMV:1; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(377454003)(13464003)(51704005)(377424004)(2420400003)(76576001)(77096005)(15975445007)(102836002)(92566002)(86362001)(74316001)(99286002)(77156002)(62966003)(2950100001)(2501003)(2900100001)(40100003)(33656002)(54356999)(50986999)(561944003)(76176999)(16799955002)(15188155005)(87936001)(2656002)(46102003)(2201001)(19580395003)(86612001)(106116001)(19580405001)(122556002)(3826002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR03MB411; H:BY2PR03MB412.namprd03.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(5005006)(5002010); SRVR:BY2PR03MB411; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BY2PR03MB411; x-forefront-prvs: 0549E6FD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.onmicrosoft.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 17 Apr 2015 19:48:20.0306 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BY2PR03MB411 Archived-At: Cc: "mls.ietf@gmail.com" , "behave@ietf.org" , "iesg@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5389 (3737) X-BeenThere: behave@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list of BEHAVE IETF WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:48:23 -0000 Disclaimer: I wasn't on the IAB at the time, nor was I active in Behave at = the time. My opinion: The status "Hold for Document Update" is probably correct given= the guidelines for errata processing, but I think the proposed "corrected" text= is wrong. The original text is not inherently flawed, just potentially confusing, but not in a way that would affect any implementation. What RFC 3484 said was specifically: "the IAB believes the following considerations must be explicitly address= ed in any proposal" The use of "must" above is far stronger than the "corrected" text's use of "suggested" (or even "recommended") which is why I believe the correct text= is wrong. The potential confusion in the original text is just that what the IAB beli= eves/believed is must be done, is enforced (or not) by the IESG, so if anything is mandated = per se,=20 it's mandated by the IESG. A more accurate corrected text would read: > The IAB has stated that protocols developed for this purpose must documen= t a > specific set of considerations. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Behave [mailto:behave-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of RFC Errata > System > Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 12:20 PM > To: spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com; jdrosen@cisco.com; > rohan@ekabal.com; philip_matthews@magma.ca; dwing@cisco.com > Cc: mls.ietf@gmail.com; behave@ietf.org; iesg@ietf.org; rfc-editor@rfc- > editor.org > Subject: [BEHAVE] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC5389 (3737) >=20 > The following errata report has been held for document update for RFC5389= , > "Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN)". >=20 > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=3D5389&eid=3D3737 >=20 > -------------------------------------- > Status: Held for Document Update > Type: Editorial >=20 > Reported by: Spencer Dawkins Date > Reported: 2013-09-25 Held by: Martin Stiemerling (IESG) >=20 > Section: 17 >=20 > Original Text > ------------- > The IAB has mandated that protocols developed for this purpose document a > specific set of considerations. >=20 > Corrected Text > -------------- > The IAB has suggested that protocols developed for this purpose document = a > specific set of considerations. >=20 > Notes > ----- > The IAB UNSAF RFC (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3424) is Informational, = and > the IAB hasn't "mandated" what IETF protocol documents contain for > something like 20 years, if I understand correctly. >=20 > -------------------------------------- > RFC5389 (draft-ietf-behave-rfc3489bis-18) > -------------------------------------- > Title : Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) > Publication Date : October 2008 > Author(s) : J. Rosenberg, R. Mahy, P. Matthews, D. Wing > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance > Area : Transport > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Behave mailing list > Behave@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/behave From nobody Fri Apr 24 10:05:32 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 325B01B37B2 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 10:05:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, TVD_SPACE_RATIO=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QtjIc7eriEAE; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 10:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580EC1B37B0; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 10:05:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: , , , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.1.p1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150424170522.11237.79401.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 10:05:22 -0700 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: Subject: [BEHAVE] ID Tracker State Update Notice: X-BeenThere: behave@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: mailing list of BEHAVE IETF WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 17:05:30 -0000 IANA review state changed to IANA - Not OK ID Tracker URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1/ From nobody Wed Apr 29 00:08:44 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3934B1AD0A0; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 00:08:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -101.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sLalP35Ard8B; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 00:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8401AD060; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 00:08:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: DraftTracker Mail System To: , , , , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.0.2 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20150429070838.3779.40550.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 00:08:38 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: iesg-secretary@ietf.org Subject: [BEHAVE] Last Call Expired: X-BeenThere: behave@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: mailing list of BEHAVE IETF WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 07:08:41 -0000 Please DO NOT reply to this email. I-D: ID Tracker URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1/ IETF Last Call has ended, and the state has been changed to Waiting for Writeup. From nobody Thu Apr 30 09:35:16 2015 Return-Path: X-Original-To: expand-draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1.all@virtual.ietf.org Delivered-To: behave@ietfa.amsl.com Received: by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 07DC21AC3A6; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:58:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-To: xfilter-draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1.all@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: xfilter-draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1.all@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E062A1AC39F; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:58:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.201 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.201 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09riXkpNYadu; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usevmg21.ericsson.net (usevmg21.ericsson.net [198.24.6.65]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B35B1A6FFA; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:58:54 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c6180641-f79086d000001909-9c-55414f3a2609 Received: from EUSAAHC001.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [147.117.188.75]) by usevmg21.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 3F.A7.06409.A3F41455; Wed, 29 Apr 2015 23:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from EUSAAMB107.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.124]) by EUSAAHC001.ericsson.se ([147.117.188.75]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Thu, 30 Apr 2015 00:43:42 -0400 From: Suresh Krishnan To: "draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1.all@ietf.org" , "General Area Review Team" Thread-Topic: Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1-01.txt Thread-Index: AdCDADvGKRdkWeIpSgWH+LmzcLsmNg== Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 04:43:42 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [147.117.188.11] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFtrOLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyuXSPt66Vv2Oowf19NhbXluZZXH31mcWB yWPJkp9MAYxRXDYpqTmZZalF+nYJXBnNE7axF5xhqTh2dzVTA+NH5i5GTg4JAROJJ6cfsULY YhIX7q1n62Lk4hASOMoo0b76FiOEs5xRYknXASaQKjagjg07PzOBJEQEVjFKfHm9H6iKg0NY IELiwFJ+kBoRgViJn/2HWCFsPYnpWzaD9bIIqEpMmPUKLM4r4Ctx6fUvdhCbEWjz91NrwGqY BcQlbj2ZzwRxkYDEkj3noS4VlXj5+B/UpUoSH3/PZ4eo15FYsPsTG4StLbFs4WtmiPmCEidn PmGZwCg8C8nYWUhaZiFpmYWkZQEjyypGjtLi1LLcdCPDTYzAkD4mwea4g3HBJ8tDjAIcjEo8 vAtO2YcKsSaWFVfmHmKU5mBREuctu3IwREggPbEkNTs1tSC1KL6oNCe1+BAjEwenVAOjxIHV 3wtiOLYlPuRJWdjhPv2EYdbWDf7bLp07crRmsb3cfiOLV/V1ossSfZa+y27fujxn4cvveyrr BU6kGpziyvh+VNkgcPLdS4sLY9MVJDftueJ770HD3/673eUPUlapFJxxE5maG3p053GTP1wr 73x1E//H4X//fPzjZ49US4wMAu8nuuhGKbEUZyQaajEXFScCAKU3e/FKAgAA Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 09:35:16 -0700 Subject: [BEHAVE] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1-01.txt X-BeenThere: behave@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list of BEHAVE IETF WG List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 04:58:59 -0000 I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on=0A= Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at=0A= .=0A= =0A= Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments=0A= you may receive.=0A= =0A= Document: draft-perrault-behave-deprecate-nat-mib-v1-01.txt=0A= Reviewer: Suresh Krishnan=0A= Review Date: 2015-04-29=0A= IETF LC End Date: 2015-04-29=0A= =0A= Summary: This draft is ready for publication as a Proposed Standard.=0A= =0A= Thanks=0A= Suresh=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=