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Subject: [bess] Protocol Action: 'Encoding mLDP FECs in the NLRI of BGP MCAST-VPN Routes' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-mldp-nlri-10.txt)
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The IESG has approved the following document:
- 'Encoding mLDP FECs in the NLRI of BGP MCAST-VPN Routes'
  (draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-mldp-nlri-10.txt) as Proposed Standard

This document is the product of the BGP Enabled Services Working Group.

The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Alia Atlas.

A URL of this Internet Draft is:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-mldp-nlri/




Technical Summary

   Many service providers offer "BGP/MPLS IP VPN" service to their
   customers.  Existing IETF standards specify the procedures and
   protocols that a service provider uses in order to offer this service
   to customers who have IP unicast and IP multicast traffic in their
   VPNs.  It is also desirable to be able to support customers who have
   MPLS multicast traffic in their VPNs.  This document specifies the
   procedures and protocol extensions that are needed to support
   customers who use the Multicast Extensions to Label Distribution
   Protocol (mLDP) as the control protocol for their MPLS multicast
   traffic.  Existing standards do provide some support for customers
   who use mLDP, but only under a restrictive set of circumstances.
   This document generalizes the existing support to include all cases
   where the customer uses mLDP, without any restrictions.  This
   document updates RFC 6514.

Working Group Summary

  No controversy around this Document which provides
  a simple solution to address a limitation of RFC 6514.

Document Quality

  There are no known implementation/implementation plans.
  The Document has been reviewed by a few experts.
  The Document Shepherd also reviewed several times the Document.

Personnel

  Martin Vigoureux, L3VPN co-chair is the Document Shepherd
  Adrian Farrel is the Responsible (Routing) Area Director


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Benson,

> On Nov 25, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Benson Schliesser =
<bensons@queuefull.net> wrote:
>=20
> Hi, Adrian -
>=20
> Of course it's possible that I'm wrong - in fact, it would be great if =
that turns out to be the case. But my suspicion is that it will take =
material updates (not just editorial) to fix at least one of the issues =
that I described in my review. And, in-line with some of the feedback =
that I heard during the plenary at IETF-91, I am biased toward having =
WGs review material changes, etc.
>=20
> Here are my views of the severity of changes for each of the three =
topics that I raised:
>=20
> Simple: I agree that it should be relatively straight-forward to fix =
the namespace issue. While I'm not intimately familiar with it, I think =
that RFC 3688 describes how the appropriate namespace can be assigned. =
I'm comfortable describing this as editorial rather than material.

RFC 3688 provides a way to ask IANA to assign a URN for a schema. It =
doesn=92t include guidelines on how that URN should look like. =46rom =
the point of view of the draft in question it is simple to modify the =
examples to use TBD as a URN. However IANA would probably want guidance =
as to what name to assign. Does it make sense to include a suggestion in =
the IANA section ?

>=20
> Somewhat more material: It may also be straight-forward to fix the =
VXLAN encapsulation issue, either by removing the VXLAN option from the =
schema

I=92ll remove it.

> , or by making reference to another document that describes the =
procedure. I can imagine at least a couple ways that such encapsulation =
might be done. However I'm not aware of the existence of such a =
document, which means it probably needs to be developed. And it seems to =
me that the 'label' element in the end-system schema might be inadequate =
information for such an encapsulation procedure.
>=20
> Probably very material: The draft really needs some kind of text =
around the various issues I included in the "Second" issue paragraph, in =
my previous message. Specifically, there needs to be some text about =
assignment of route-server JIDs. This should include some explanation =
about how route-server JIDs relate to the redundancy scheme that's =
sketched out in the draft. This should also include some kind of error =
handling discussion around incorrect JIDs being used in messages, etc. =
Much of the preceding also applies to pubsub 'node' values, with an =
emphasis on the error handling issues. It is possible that the authors =
have an editorial solution to this, which would avoid material changes =
to the draft text, but my limited imagination can't picture what that =
might look like.

The reference to the =93jid=94 value in the RD assignment procedure is =
incorrect; This procedure uses the IP identifier of the compute node. =
Earlier versions of the document assume the JID to be the IP identifier=85=
 this is no longer the case.
Thank you for highlighting this=85 I=92ll update the document.

>=20
> As I said above, I would be happy to be wrong about the severity of =
these changes. But my suspicion is that they are somewhat material =
additions / changes to the draft text.
>=20
> Cheers,
> -Benson
>=20
>=20
>> 	Adrian Farrel <mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>	November 25, =
2014 at 3:00 AM
>> Hi Benson,
>> =20
>> Thanks for reviewing and commenting. I'm sure the authors will =
address your points.
>> =20
>> I'd just like to pick up on the last one...
>> =20
>> > Otherwise, I'm not sure that this draft is ready for Proposed =
Standard
>> > publication. I suspect that it may need further review and =
development
>> > in BESS.
>> =20
>> The draft went through WG process in L3VPN and was subject to WG last =
call. There is nothing intrinsically different between processing in =
BESS and processing in L3VPN.
>> =20
>> So I read you as saying that the three points you have raised are =
evidence that more review and development are needed. But it seems to me =
that the three points you have raised are relatively small and easily =
addressed (perhaps I will be proven wrong) so can you clarify why you =
think this work should be sent back to the working group.
>> =20
>> Thanks,
>> Adrian
>> =20
>> From: Benson Schliesser [mailto:bensons@queuefull.net =
<mailto:bensons@queuefull.net>]=20
>> Sent: 24 November 2014 23:36
>> To: ietf@ietf.org <mailto:ietf@ietf.org>; bess@ietf.org =
<mailto:bess@ietf.org>
>> Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk <mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>
>> Subject: Re: Last Call Comment draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.txt
>> =20
>> In addition to Adrian's comment, I'm confused by a number of things =
in draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04. Just picking on the big ones:
>>=20
>> First, I think there might be a mistake in the XML examples and/or =
XSD. The schema in section 11 defines a target namespace of =
http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd =
<http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd> but the examples use =
http://ietf.org/protocol/bgpvpn <http://ietf.org/protocol/bgpvpn>.
>>=20
>> Second, the document doesn't seem to provide adequate operational =
guidance on how to determine the route server JID, how to determine the =
correct pubsub node values, etc. I assume that the server JID is a =
configurable option. And I assume that the pubsub node is equivalent to =
the 128 octet VPN ID. But neither seems to be spelled out clearly =
(unless I'm overlooking it) and in any case there don't seem to be any =
discussions of error handling. (In fact, the only comment I can find on =
the 'node' value suggests vaguely that perhaps all values are implicitly =
correct, in which case there needs to be some additional text about =
troubleshooting.)
>>=20
>> Third, the schema offers three different encap types including GRE, =
UDP, and VXLAN. I believe that the GRE and UDP options are meant to be =
MPLS in {GRE, UDP} in which cases I think the 'label' element provides =
adequate information for the encapsulation. However I can't find text =
about how to construct the VXLAN encapsulation. Is it also MPLS over =
VXLAN, or is the label supposed to map to the VNI? In either case I =
suspect that you need a reference to something that defines the VXLAN =
usage of link layer addresses, or the use of the GPE extensions, etc.
>>=20
>> Perhaps I'm overlooking something in the text, or (even more likely) =
maybe I'm just too ignorant of XMPP standards etc. If that's the case =
then I hope the authors will help me understand.
>>=20
>> Otherwise, I'm not sure that this draft is ready for Proposed =
Standard publication. I suspect that it may need further review and =
development in BESS.
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> -Benson
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> <image.jpg>
>> Adrian Farrel <mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>
>> November 24, 2014 at 2:27 PM
>> This document contains a worked example using IP addresses from the =
10/8 and
>> 192.168/16 Private Use spaces.
>>=20
>> It would be far better if the document used addresses from the three
>> documentation/test spaces 192.0.2/24 198.51.100/24 and 203.0.113/24
>>=20
>> Unless you can provide a strong reason not to make this change (which =
looks to
>> me like it would be a simple matter), please do so in a new revision =
after IETF
>> last call.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Adrian
>>=20
>> =20
>> 	Benson Schliesser <mailto:bensons@queuefull.net>	November =
24, 2014 at 6:36 PM
>> In addition to Adrian's comment, I'm confused by a number of things =
in draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04. Just picking on the big ones:
>>=20
>> First, I think there might be a mistake in the XML examples and/or =
XSD. The schema in section 11 defines a target namespace of =
http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd =
<http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd> but the examples use =
http://ietf.org/protocol/bgpvpn <http://ietf.org/protocol/bgpvpn>.
>>=20
>> Second, the document doesn't seem to provide adequate operational =
guidance on how to determine the route server JID, how to determine the =
correct pubsub node values, etc. I assume that the server JID is a =
configurable option. And I assume that the pubsub node is equivalent to =
the 128 octet VPN ID. But neither seems to be spelled out clearly =
(unless I'm overlooking it) and in any case there don't seem to be any =
discussions of error handling. (In fact, the only comment I can find on =
the 'node' value suggests vaguely that perhaps all values are implicitly =
correct, in which case there needs to be some additional text about =
troubleshooting.)
>>=20
>> Third, the schema offers three different encap types including GRE, =
UDP, and VXLAN. I believe that the GRE and UDP options are meant to be =
MPLS in {GRE, UDP} in which cases I think the 'label' element provides =
adequate information for the encapsulation. However I can't find text =
about how to construct the VXLAN encapsulation. Is it also MPLS over =
VXLAN, or is the label supposed to map to the VNI? In either case I =
suspect that you need a reference to something that defines the VXLAN =
usage of link layer addresses, or the use of the GPE extensions, etc.
>>=20
>> Perhaps I'm overlooking something in the text, or (even more likely) =
maybe I'm just too ignorant of XMPP standards etc. If that's the case =
then I hope the authors will help me understand.
>>=20
>> Otherwise, I'm not sure that this draft is ready for Proposed =
Standard publication. I suspect that it may need further review and =
development in BESS.
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> -Benson
>>=20
>>=20
>> 	Adrian Farrel <mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>	November 24, =
2014 at 2:27 PM
>> This document contains a worked example using IP addresses from the =
10/8 and
>> 192.168/16 Private Use spaces.
>>=20
>> It would be far better if the document used addresses from the three
>> documentation/test spaces 192.0.2/24 198.51.100/24 and 203.0.113/24
>>=20
>> Unless you can provide a strong reason not to make this change (which =
looks to
>> me like it would be a simple matter), please do so in a new revision =
after IETF
>> last call.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Adrian
>>=20
>>=20
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start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">Of course it's possible that I'm wrong - in =
fact, it would be great if that turns out to be the case. But my =
suspicion is that it will take material updates (not just editorial) to =
fix at least one of the issues that I described in my review. And, =
in-line with some of the feedback that I heard during the plenary at =
IETF-91, I am biased toward having WGs review material changes, =
etc.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">Here are my views of the severity of changes for =
each of the three topics that I raised:</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" =
class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Simple: I =
agree that it should be relatively straight-forward to fix the namespace =
issue. While I'm not intimately familiar with it, I think that RFC 3688 =
describes how the appropriate namespace can be assigned. I'm comfortable =
describing this as editorial rather than material.</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255);" class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>RFC =
3688 provides a way to ask IANA to assign a URN for a schema. It doesn=92t=
 include guidelines on how that URN should look like. =46rom the point =
of view of the draft in question it is simple to modify the examples to =
use TBD as a URN. However IANA would probably want guidance as to what =
name to assign. Does it make sense to include a suggestion in the IANA =
section ?</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Somewhat more =
material: It may also be straight-forward to fix the VXLAN encapsulation =
issue, either by removing the VXLAN option from the =
schema</span></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>I=92ll =
remove it.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">, or by making reference to another document =
that describes the procedure. I can imagine at least a couple ways that =
such encapsulation might be done. However I'm not aware of the existence =
of such a document, which means it probably needs to be developed. And =
it seems to me that the 'label' element in the end-system schema might =
be inadequate information for such an encapsulation procedure.</span><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255);" class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Probably very =
material: The draft really needs some kind of text around the various =
issues I included in the "Second" issue paragraph, in my previous =
message. Specifically, there needs to be some text about assignment of =
route-server JIDs. This should include some explanation about how =
route-server JIDs relate to the redundancy scheme that's sketched out in =
the draft. This should also include some kind of error handling =
discussion around incorrect JIDs being used in messages, etc. Much of =
the preceding also applies to pubsub 'node' values, with an emphasis on =
the error handling issues. It is possible that the authors have an =
editorial solution to this, which would avoid material changes to the =
draft text, but my limited imagination can't picture what that might =
look like.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" =
class=3D""></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div><div>The =
reference to the =93jid=94 value in the RD assignment procedure is =
incorrect; This procedure uses the IP identifier of the compute node. =
Earlier versions of the document assume the JID to be the IP identifier=85=
 this is no longer the case.</div><div>Thank you for highlighting this=85 =
I=92ll update the document.</div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; =
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255); float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">As I said =
above, I would be happy to be wrong about the severity of these changes. =
But my suspicion is that they are somewhat material additions / changes =
to the draft text.</span><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255);" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">Cheers,</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline =
!important;" class=3D"">-Benson</span><br style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" =
class=3D""><br style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255);" class=3D""><blockquote =
cite=3D"mid:08f001d00885$e12c6500$a3852f00$@olddog.co.uk" type=3D"cite" =
style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
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0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255); border: 0px none;" class=3D""><div class=3D"__pbConvHr" =
style=3D"margin: 30px 25px 10px;"><div style=3D"display: table; width: =
593px; border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: =
rgb(237, 238, 240); padding-top: 5px;" class=3D""><div style=3D"display: =
table-cell; vertical-align: middle; padding-right: 6px;" class=3D""><img =
class=3D"" apple-inline=3D"yes" =
id=3D"1E39B1AD-F7EA-4D6E-B709-6FE441D92CFC" =
src=3D"cid:part1.02050603.08070302@queuefull.net"></div><div =
style=3D"display: table-cell; white-space: nowrap; vertical-align: =
middle; width: 114px;" class=3D""><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" style=3D"color: rgb(115, 127, 146) =
!important; text-decoration: none !important; padding-right: 6px; =
font-weight: bold;" class=3D"">Adrian Farrel</a></div><div =
style=3D"display: table-cell; white-space: nowrap; vertical-align: =
middle;" class=3D""><font color=3D"#9FA2A5" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"padding-left: 6px;" class=3D"">November 25, 2014 at 3:00 =
AM</span></font></div></div></div><div __pbrmquotes=3D"true" =
class=3D"__pbConvBody" style=3D"color: rgb(136, 136, 136); margin-left: =
24px; margin-right: 24px;"><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: =
WordSection1;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Hi=
 Benson,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Thanks for reviewing and commenting. I'm sure =
the authors will address your points.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">I'd just like to pick up on the last one...<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&gt; Otherwise, I'm not sure that this draft is ready for =
Proposed Standard<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">&gt; publication. I suspect that it may need =
further review and development<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&gt; in BESS.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">The draft went through WG process in L3VPN and was subject to =
WG last call. There is nothing intrinsically different between =
processing in BESS and processing in L3VPN.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">So=
 I read you as saying that the three points you have raised are evidence =
that more review and development are needed. But it seems to me that the =
three points you have raised are relatively small and easily addressed =
(perhaps I will be proven wrong) so can you clarify why you think this =
work should be sent back to the working group.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Thanks,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin:=
 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Adrian<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div =
style=3D"border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: blue; =
border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 4pt;" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; =
border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: =
3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Benson =
Schliesser [<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" =
href=3D"mailto:bensons@queuefull.net" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;">mailto:bensons@queuefull.net</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>24 =
November 2014 23:36<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:ietf@ietf.org" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;">ietf@ietf.org</a>;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;">bess@ietf.org</a><br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;">adrian@olddog.co.uk</a><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: Last Call Comment =
draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.txt<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"">In addition to Adrian's comment, I'm =
confused by a number of things in draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04. Just =
picking on the big ones:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">First, I think =
there might be a mistake in the XML examples and/or XSD. The schema in =
section 11 defines a target namespace of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>but the examples use<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"http://ietf.org/protocol/bgpvpn" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">http://ietf.org/protocol/bgpvpn</a>.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Second, the document doesn't seem to provide adequate =
operational guidance on how to determine the route server JID, how to =
determine the correct pubsub node values, etc. I assume that the server =
JID is a configurable option. And I assume that the pubsub node is =
equivalent to the 128 octet VPN ID. But neither seems to be spelled out =
clearly (unless I'm overlooking it) and in any case there don't seem to =
be any discussions of error handling. (In fact, the only comment I can =
find on the 'node' value suggests vaguely that perhaps all values are =
implicitly correct, in which case there needs to be some additional text =
about troubleshooting.)<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Third, the schema =
offers three different encap types including GRE, UDP, and VXLAN. I =
believe that the GRE and UDP options are meant to be MPLS in {GRE, UDP} =
in which cases I think the 'label' element provides adequate information =
for the encapsulation. However I can't find text about how to construct =
the VXLAN encapsulation. Is it also MPLS over VXLAN, or is the label =
supposed to map to the VNI? In either case I suspect that you need a =
reference to something that defines the VXLAN usage of link layer =
addresses, or the use of the GPE extensions, etc.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Perhaps I'm overlooking something in the text, or (even more =
likely) maybe I'm just too ignorant of XMPP standards etc. If that's the =
case then I hope the authors will help me understand.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Otherwise, I'm not sure that this draft is ready for Proposed =
Standard publication. I suspect that it may need further review and =
development in BESS.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cheers,<br =
class=3D"">-Benson<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
22.5pt 18.75pt 7.5pt;" class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: solid none =
none; border-top-color: rgb(237, 238, 240); border-top-width: 1pt; =
padding: 4pt 0cm 0cm; display: table;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; vertical-align: middle;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><span =
id=3D"cid:part2.09030102.07030501@queuefull.net">&lt;image.jpg&gt;</span><=
o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; vertical-align: middle;" class=3D""><span class=3D""><a=
 moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Adrian Farrel</b></a><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; vertical-align: middle;" class=3D""><span class=3D"">November 24, =
2014 at 2:27 PM</span><span class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin-left:=
 18pt; margin-right: 18pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class=3D"">This document =
contains a worked example using IP addresses from the 10/8 and<br =
class=3D"">192.168/16 Private Use spaces.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">It =
would be far better if the document used addresses from the three<br =
class=3D"">documentation/test spaces 192.0.2/24 198.51.100/24 and =
203.0.113/24<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Unless you can provide a =
strong reason not to make this change (which looks to<br class=3D"">me =
like it would be a simple matter), please do so in a new revision after =
IETF<br class=3D"">last call.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks,<br =
class=3D"">Adrian<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div =
class=3D"__pbConvHr" style=3D"margin: 30px 25px 10px;"><div =
style=3D"display: table; width: 593px; border-top-width: 1px; =
border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(237, 238, 240); =
padding-top: 5px;" class=3D""><div style=3D"display: table-cell; =
vertical-align: middle; padding-right: 6px;" class=3D""><img class=3D"" =
apple-inline=3D"yes" id=3D"89DF7484-EF3C-446A-A10C-B0074B5A6A10" =
src=3D"cid:part3.08050007.08030707@queuefull.net"></div><div =
style=3D"display: table-cell; white-space: nowrap; vertical-align: =
middle; width: 114px;" class=3D""><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:bensons@queuefull.net" style=3D"color: rgb(115, 127, 146) =
!important; text-decoration: none !important; padding-right: 6px; =
font-weight: bold;" class=3D"">Benson Schliesser</a></div><div =
style=3D"display: table-cell; white-space: nowrap; vertical-align: =
middle;" class=3D""><font color=3D"#9FA2A5" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"padding-left: 6px;" class=3D"">November 24, 2014 at 6:36 =
PM</span></font></div></div></div><div __pbrmquotes=3D"true" =
class=3D"__pbConvBody" style=3D"color: rgb(136, 136, 136); margin-left: =
24px; margin-right: 24px;">In addition to Adrian's comment, I'm confused =
by a number of things in draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04. Just picking on =
the big ones:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">First, I think there might be =
a mistake in the XML examples and/or XSD. The schema in section 11 =
defines a target namespace of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd" =
class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;">http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>but the examples use<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"http://ietf.org/protocol/bgpvpn" class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;">http://ietf.org/protocol/bgpvpn</a>.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Second, the document doesn't seem to provide adequate =
operational guidance on how to determine the route server JID, how to =
determine the correct pubsub node values, etc. I assume that the server =
JID is a configurable option. And I assume that the pubsub node is =
equivalent to the 128 octet VPN ID. But neither seems to be spelled out =
clearly (unless I'm overlooking it) and in any case there don't seem to =
be any discussions of error handling. (In fact, the only comment I can =
find on the 'node' value suggests vaguely that perhaps all values are =
implicitly correct, in which case there needs to be some additional text =
about troubleshooting.)<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Third, the schema =
offers three different encap types including GRE, UDP, and VXLAN. I =
believe that the GRE and UDP options are meant to be MPLS in {GRE, UDP} =
in which cases I think the 'label' element provides adequate information =
for the encapsulation. However I can't find text about how to construct =
the VXLAN encapsulation. Is it also MPLS over VXLAN, or is the label =
supposed to map to the VNI? In either case I suspect that you need a =
reference to something that defines the VXLAN usage of link layer =
addresses, or the use of the GPE extensions, etc.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Perhaps I'm overlooking something in the text, or (even more =
likely) maybe I'm just too ignorant of XMPP standards etc. If that's the =
case then I hope the authors will help me understand.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Otherwise, I'm not sure that this draft is ready for Proposed =
Standard publication. I suspect that it may need further review and =
development in BESS.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cheers,<br =
class=3D"">-Benson<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"__pbConvHr" style=3D"margin: 30px 25px 10px;"><div =
style=3D"display: table; width: 593px; border-top-width: 1px; =
border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(237, 238, 240); =
padding-top: 5px;" class=3D""><div style=3D"display: table-cell; =
vertical-align: middle; padding-right: 6px;" class=3D""><img class=3D"" =
apple-inline=3D"yes" id=3D"C4CD3FB1-2527-42CD-AADC-BF5BFE5662E1" =
src=3D"cid:part1.02050603.08070302@queuefull.net"></div><div =
style=3D"display: table-cell; white-space: nowrap; vertical-align: =
middle; width: 114px;" class=3D""><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" =
href=3D"mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk" style=3D"color: rgb(115, 127, 146) =
!important; text-decoration: none !important; padding-right: 6px; =
font-weight: bold;" class=3D"">Adrian Farrel</a></div><div =
style=3D"display: table-cell; white-space: nowrap; vertical-align: =
middle;" class=3D""><font color=3D"#9FA2A5" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"padding-left: 6px;" class=3D"">November 24, 2014 at 2:27 =
PM</span></font></div></div></div><div __pbrmquotes=3D"true" =
class=3D"__pbConvBody" style=3D"color: rgb(136, 136, 136); margin-left: =
24px; margin-right: 24px;"><div class=3D"">This document contains a =
worked example using IP addresses from the 10/8 and<br =
class=3D"">192.168/16 Private Use spaces.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">It =
would be far better if the document used addresses from the three<br =
class=3D"">documentation/test spaces 192.0.2/24 198.51.100/24 and =
203.0.113/24<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Unless you can provide a =
strong reason not to make this change (which looks to<br class=3D"">me =
like it would be a simple matter), please do so in a new revision after =
IETF<br class=3D"">last call.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks,<br =
class=3D"">Adrian<br class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled Services Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Virtual Subnet: A L3VPN-based Subnet Extension Solution
        Authors         : Xiaohu Xu
                          Robert Raszuk
                          Susan Hares
                          Yongbing Fan
                          Christian Jacquenet
                          Truman Boyes
                          Brendan Fee
	Filename        : draft-ietf-l3vpn-virtual-subnet-03.txt
	Pages           : 14
	Date            : 2014-12-02

Abstract:
   This document describes a Layer3 Virtual Private Network (L3VPN)-
   based subnet extension solution referred to as Virtual Subnet, which
   can be used for building Layer3 network virtualization overlays
   within and/or across data centers.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-l3vpn-virtual-subnet/

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Hi, Pedro -

>> Simple: I agree that it should be relatively straight-forward to fix 
>> the namespace issue. While I'm not intimately familiar with it, I 
>> think that RFC 3688 describes how the appropriate namespace can be 
>> assigned. I'm comfortable describing this as editorial rather than 
>> material.
>
> RFC 3688 provides a way to ask IANA to assign a URN for a schema. It 
> doesn’t include guidelines on how that URN should look like. From the 
> point of view of the draft in question it is simple to modify the 
> examples to use TBD as a URN. However IANA would probably want 
> guidance as to what name to assign. Does it make sense to include a 
> suggestion in the IANA section ?
>

That makes sense to me. Maybe somebody else knows more about the 
process, and could give better feedback, but what you propose is exactly 
what I would do under the circumstances.

>> Probably very material: The draft really needs some kind of text 
>> around the various issues I included in the "Second" issue paragraph, 
>> in my previous message. Specifically, there needs to be some text 
>> about assignment of route-server JIDs. This should include some 
>> explanation about how route-server JIDs relate to the redundancy 
>> scheme that's sketched out in the draft. This should also include 
>> some kind of error handling discussion around incorrect JIDs being 
>> used in messages, etc. Much of the preceding also applies to pubsub 
>> 'node' values, with an emphasis on the error handling issues. It is 
>> possible that the authors have an editorial solution to this, which 
>> would avoid material changes to the draft text, but my limited 
>> imagination can't picture what that might look like.
>
> The reference to the “jid” value in the RD assignment procedure is 
> incorrect; This procedure uses the IP identifier of the compute node. 
> Earlier versions of the document assume the JID to be the IP 
> identifier… this is no longer the case.
> Thank you for highlighting this… I’ll update the document.

I look forward to seeing the updated text. I'm not sure that your 
proposal covers all the issues that I've identified, but I'll wait to 
see the text before I leap to any conclusions. :)

Cheers,
-Benson





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Hi Benson,

2014-12-03 19:38, Benson Schliesser:
>>> Simple: I agree that it should be relatively straight-forward to fix 
>>> the namespace issue. While I'm not intimately familiar with it, I 
>>> think that RFC 3688 describes how the appropriate namespace can be 
>>> assigned. I'm comfortable describing this as editorial rather than 
>>> material.
>>
>> RFC 3688 provides a way to ask IANA to assign a URN for a schema. It 
>> doesn’t include guidelines on how that URN should look like. From the 
>> point of view of the draft in question it is simple to modify the 
>> examples to use TBD as a URN. However IANA would probably want 
>> guidance as to what name to assign. Does it make sense to include a 
>> suggestion in the IANA section ?
>>
>
> That makes sense to me. Maybe somebody else knows more about the 
> process, and could give better feedback, but what you propose is 
> exactly what I would do under the circumstances.

It was identified during shepherd review that a review of the XML 
specifics of these specs was probably a good idea.
We'll take the action of getting in touch with whoever ends up being the 
right person and identify the right solution for the namespace.


>>> Probably very material: The draft really needs some kind of text 
>>> around the various issues I included in the "Second" issue 
>>> paragraph, in my previous message.
[Quote of this message:]
Second, the document doesn't seem to provide adequate operational 
guidance on how to determine the route server JID, how to determine the 
correct pubsub node values, etc. I assume that the server JID is a 
configurable option. And I assume that the pubsub node is equivalent to 
the 128 octet VPN ID. But neither seems to be spelled out clearly 
(unless I'm overlooking it) and in any case there don't seem to be any 
discussions of error handling. (In fact, the only comment I can find on 
the 'node' value suggests vaguely that perhaps all values are implicitly 
correct, in which case there needs to be some additional text about 
troubleshooting.)

>>> Specifically, there needs to be some text about assignment of 
>>> route-server JIDs. This should include some explanation about how 
>>> route-server JIDs relate to the redundancy scheme that's sketched 
>>> out in the draft. This should also include some kind of error 
>>> handling discussion around incorrect JIDs being used in messages, 
>>> etc. Much of the preceding also applies to pubsub 'node' values, 
>>> with an emphasis on the error handling issues. It is possible that 
>>> the authors have an editorial solution to this, which would avoid 
>>> material changes to the draft text, but my limited imagination can't 
>>> picture what that might look like.
>>
>> The reference to the “jid” value in the RD assignment procedure is 
>> incorrect; This procedure uses the IP identifier of the compute node. 
>> Earlier versions of the document assume the JID to be the IP 
>> identifier… this is no longer the case.
>> Thank you for highlighting this… I’ll update the document.
>
> I look forward to seeing the updated text. I'm not sure that your 
> proposal covers all the issues that I've identified, but I'll wait to 
> see the text before I leap to any conclusions. :)

Let's try to avoid being dependant of how fast we can loop through 
revision/feedback cycles, and anticipate resolutions.

What I think we need from you at this point, is (a) an exhaustive list 
of the issues you see, with a level of detail appropriate so that we are 
able to identify earlier in the process what changes are required to 
satisfy your concerns, and (b) early feedback to Pedro suggested changes 
(such as indication of issue that they would not address, if any).

For instance...
My guess is that Pedro's answer may address some of your concerns on the 
jabber ids, but possibly not the ones related to route-servers (how they 
are chosen and known to end-systems) and error handling. Is that correct 
?  On redundancy, can you provide more details on why you think is 
missing and why you think the redundancy scheme relates to how 
route-servers JIDs are chosen and known to end-systems ?

Best,

-Thomas
(as draft shepherd)





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Hello working group,

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-rosen-l3vpn-ir [1] 
as a working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until **December 19th**.


*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669
and 5378 for more details).

==> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* please
respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any 
relevant IPR.

The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from
each author and contributor.

If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please 
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been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

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[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rosen-l3vpn-ir


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As a co-author, I am not aware of IPRs related to this.

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On 12/4/2014 11:29 AM, Thomas Morin wrote:

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I am not aware of any such IPR.


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Hello working group,

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until **December 19th**.


*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669
and 5378 for more details).

==> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* please
respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any 
relevant IPR.

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each author and contributor.

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explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet 
been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.

Thank you,

Martin & Thomas
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[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay


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I am not aware of IPR related to this draft


>>Jorge
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Thomas Morin <thomas.morin@orange.com>
>>Organization: Orange
>>Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 at 5:13 AM
>>To: "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
>>Cc: "draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org"
>><draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org>
>>Subject: [bess]  Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>>
>>>Hello working group,
>>>
>>>This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
>>>draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.
>>>
>>>Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
>>>not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
>>>
>>>This poll runs until **December 19th**.
>>>
>>>
>>>*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
>>>applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
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>>>Thank you,
>>>
>>>Martin & Thomas
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>>>[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
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+ support adoption of the draft as WG

On 05/12/14 17:31, "Henderickx, Wim (Wim)"
<wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:

>I am not aware of IPR related to this draft
>
>
>>>Jorge
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Thomas Morin <thomas.morin@orange.com>
>>>Organization: Orange
>>>Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 at 5:13 AM
>>>To: "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
>>>Cc: "draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org"
>>><draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org>
>>>Subject: [bess]  Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>>>
>>>>Hello working group,
>>>>
>>>>This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
>>>>draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.
>>>>
>>>>Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
>>>>not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
>>>>
>>>>This poll runs until **December 19th**.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
>>>>applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
>>>>compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669
>>>>and 5378 for more details).
>>>>
>>>>=3D=3D> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* please
>>>>respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any
>>>>relevant IPR.
>>>>
>>>>The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from
>>>>each author and contributor.
>>>>
>>>>If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please
>>>>explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet
>>>>been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you,
>>>>
>>>>Martin & Thomas
>>>>bess chairs
>>>>
>>>>[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
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>>
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Support adoption of the draft.  This is a very useful deployment scenario 
for MVPN.  Though, I think it would be more accurate to replace the term 
"Ingress replication" with "Point-to-point", as P2MP is not referred to as 
"Egress Replication."

-Lenny

On Thu, 4 Dec 2014, Thomas Morin wrote:

| Hello working group,
| 
| This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-rosen-l3vpn-ir [1] as a
| working group item.
| 
| Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
| not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
| 
| This poll runs until **December 19th**.
| 
| 
| *Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
| applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
| compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669
| and 5378 for more details).
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Support as co-author.
I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft
Thanks,
Florin

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Sathappan, Senthil K (Senthil) <
senthil.sathappan@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:

> Support as co-author.
> I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft
> Thanks,
> Senthil.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) [mailto:jorge.rabadan@alcatel-lucent.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:23 AM
> To: Thomas Morin; bess@ietf.org
> Cc: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>
> Support as co-author.
>
> I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.
>
> Thanks.
> Jorge
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Morin <thomas.morin@orange.com>
> Organization: Orange
> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 at 5:13 AM
> To: "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
> Cc: "draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org"
> <draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org>
> Subject: [bess]  Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>
> >Hello working group,
> >
> >This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
> >draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.
> >
> >Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
> >not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
> >
> >This poll runs until **December 19th**.
> >
> >
> >*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
> >applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
> >compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for
> >more details).
> >
> >==> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* please
> >respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any
> >relevant IPR.
> >
> >The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from
> >each author and contributor.
> >
> >If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please
> >explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet
> >been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
> >
> >Thank you,
> >
> >Martin & Thomas
> >bess chairs
> >
> >[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
> >
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lor=3D"#000000"><span class=3D"im" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12.8000001907349px">Support as co-author.<br>I am not aware of any =
IPR that applies to this draft<br></span><span style=3D"font-family:arial,s=
ans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px">Thanks,</span><br></font></span><di=
v><span style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8000001907349px;=
background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font color=3D"#000000">Florin</font></s=
pan></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">O=
n Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Sathappan, Senthil K (Senthil) <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:senthil.sathappan@alcatel-lucent.com" target=3D=
"_blank">senthil.sathappan@alcatel-lucent.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">Support as co-author.<br>
I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft<br>
</span>Thanks,<br>
Senthil.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Rabadan, Jorge (Jorge) [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:jorge.rabadan@alcate=
l-lucent.com">jorge.rabadan@alcatel-lucent.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:23 AM<br>
To: Thomas Morin; <a href=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org">bess@ietf.org</a><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org">d=
raft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay<=
br>
<br>
Support as co-author.<br>
<br>
I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
Jorge<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Thomas Morin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thomas.morin@orange.com">thomas.mo=
rin@orange.com</a>&gt;<br>
Organization: Orange<br>
Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 at 5:13 AM<br>
To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org">bess@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a h=
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<br>
&gt;Hello working group,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This email starts a two-week poll on adopting<br>
&gt;draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or<b=
r>
&gt;not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This poll runs until **December 19th**.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that<br>
&gt;applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in<br>
&gt;compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for<=
br>
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Support as a co-author. Not aware of any IPR.

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IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead::Revised I-D Needed from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead
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Hi,

There is an email from IANA that needs a response, and my minor last =
call comments to be addressed.

I have put the I-D into "revised I-D needed" state.

If you can turn this around quickly we will get it on an IESG telechat =
before Christmas.

Thanks,
Adrian

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Hello

this email starts a Working Group Last Call on
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-orf-covering-prefixes
which is considered mature and ready for a last working group review.

An IPR disclosure exists for this document:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id=draft-ietf-bess-orf-covering-prefixes

Please read the document if you haven't read the most recent version 
yet, and send your comments to the list, no later than Dec 22nd.

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M&T


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support as a co-author. I am not aware of any IPR.

- Anil

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Morin <thomas.morin@orange.com>
Organization: Orange
Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 5:13 AM
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Subject: [bess]  Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay

>Hello working group,
>
>This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
>draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.
>
>Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
>not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
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>This poll runs until **December 19th**.
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>*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
>applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
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>Thank you,
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>Martin & Thomas
>bess chairs
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>[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
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Hi,

I don't seem to have seen a copy of IANA's review comments on this draft. sorry
if that is my mail system screwing up.

IANA's comments are entered in the tracker and read as follows.

My response will be in a response to this email.

Cheers,
Adrian

> IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:
>
> IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.  Authors should review
> the comments and/or questions below.  Please report any inaccuracies and 
> respond to any questions as soon as possible.
>
> IANA's reviewer has the following comments/questions:
>
> IANA has a question about the IANA Considerations section of this document.
>
> Previously, an early assignment has been made to support this draft. The
> original request for an assignment is below:
>
>> <begin request="">
>> Contact Name:
>> Thomas Morin
>>
>> Contact Email:
>> thomas.morin@orange.com
>>
>> Type of Assignment:
>> Assignement of a BGP parameter in a FCFS registry.
>>
>> Registry:
>> BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute Tunnel Types
>>
>> See: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters
>>
>> Description:
>> Needed for draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system, to allow the use of an 
>> MPLS-over-UDP encapsulation as specified in draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp .
>>
>> No value has been proposed yet, next available value 13 would be fine.
>>
>> Additional Info:
>> draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system
>> </end>
>
> IANA Question --> The IANA Considerations section said "This document has
> no IANA actions."  and, as a result, the assignment made through the request
> above would not be made permanent. Is this the author's intent? If not, could
> the draft be revised to indicate that the assignment made based on the request
> above be changed from an initial assignment to a permanent assignment.
>
> Note:  The actions requested in this document will not be completed until the
> document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message is only
> to confirm what actions will be performed.  
>
> Please note that IANA cannot reserve specific values. However, early
allocation
> is available for some types of registrations. For more information, please see
> RFC 7120.


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Hi,
 
Replying to myself and keeping the same IANA tracking number.
 
> > IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:
> >
> > IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.  Authors should review
> > the comments and/or questions below.  Please report any inaccuracies and
> > respond to any questions as soon as possible.
> >
> > IANA's reviewer has the following comments/questions:
> >
> > IANA has a question about the IANA Considerations section of this document.
> >
> > Previously, an early assignment has been made to support this draft. The
> > original request for an assignment is below:
> >
> >> <begin request="">
> >> Contact Name:
> >> Thomas Morin
> >>
> >> Contact Email:
> >> thomas.morin@orange.com
> >>
> >> Type of Assignment:
> >> Assignement of a BGP parameter in a FCFS registry.
> >>
> >> Registry:
> >> BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute Tunnel Types
> >>
> >> See: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters
> >>
> >> Description:
> >> Needed for draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system, to allow the use of an
> >> MPLS-over-UDP encapsulation as specified in draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp .
> >>
> >> No value has been proposed yet, next available value 13 would be fine.
> >>
> >> Additional Info:
> >> draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system
> >> </end>
> >
> > IANA Question --> The IANA Considerations section said "This document has
> > no IANA actions."  and, as a result, the assignment made through the request
> > above would not be made permanent. Is this the author's intent? If not,
could
> > the draft be revised to indicate that the assignment made based on the
request
> > above be changed from an initial assignment to a permanent assignment.
 
How do you mean?
The registry is FCFS for which *any* document is sufficient.
The assignment has been made and is as permanent as any FCFS assignment ever is.
 
> > Please note that IANA cannot reserve specific values. However, early
> > allocation is available for some types of registrations. For more
information,
> > please see RFC 7120.
 
Yes, but this is a FCFS registry to which 7120 does not apply, and nor does
"reservation of values".
With FCFS the value is assigned when requested and that's it.
 
Now, it is a different question whether this document should ask for the
registry to be updated to point to the consequent RFC instead of the I-D.
 
I think that might be valuable. So the IANA section should read...
 
   IANA has previously made an allocation from the "BGP Tunnel Encapsulation
   Attribute Tunnel Types" registry that reads:
 
   Value  | Name                      | Reference
   --------+---------------------------+-------------------------------
       13  | MPLS in UDP Encapsulation | [draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system]
 
   IANA is requested to change the reference to point to the RFC number
   of this document when it is published.
   
Cheers,
Adrian

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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'tab-interval:36.0pt'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoPlainText>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>Replying to myself and keeping the same IANA =
tracking number.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText> =
</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; IANA =
has reviewed draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Authors should review</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; the comments and/or questions below.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Please report any inaccuracies =
and</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; respond to any questions as =
soon as possible.</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; IANA's reviewer has the following =
comments/questions:</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; IANA has a question about the IANA =
Considerations section of this document.</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
&gt;</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; Previously, an early =
assignment has been made to support this draft. The</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; original request for an assignment is =
below:</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;begin =
request=3D&quot;&quot;&gt;</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; =
Contact Name:</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; Thomas =
Morin</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt;</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; Contact Email:</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; thomas.morin@orange.com</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt;</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
&gt;&gt; Type of Assignment:</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; =
Assignement of a BGP parameter in a FCFS registry.</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt;</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
&gt;&gt; Registry:</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; BGP Tunnel =
Encapsulation Attribute Tunnel Types</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; See: =
https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt;</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
&gt;&gt; Description:</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; Needed =
for draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system, to allow the use of an</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; MPLS-over-UDP encapsulation as =
specified in draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp .</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
&gt;&gt;</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; No value has been =
proposed yet, next available value 13 would be fine.</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt;</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; =
&gt;&gt; Additional Info:</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; =
draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;&gt; =
&lt;/end&gt;</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt;</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; IANA Question --&gt; The IANA =
Considerations section said &quot;This document has</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; no IANA actions.&quot;<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>and, as a result, the =
assignment made through the request</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; =
above would not be made permanent. Is this the author's intent? If not, =
could</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; the draft be revised to =
indicate that the assignment made based on the request</p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; above be changed from an initial =
assignment to a permanent assignment.</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:black'>How do you =
mean?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:black'>The registry is FCFS for which *any* document is =
sufficient.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:black'>The assignment has been made and is as permanent =
as any FCFS assignment ever is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; Please note that IANA cannot reserve =
specific values. However, early</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; =
allocation is available for some types of registrations. For more =
information,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText>&gt; &gt; please see =
RFC 7120.</p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:black'>Yes, but this is a FCFS =
registry to which 7120 does not apply, and nor does &quot;reservation of =
values&quot;.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:black'>With FCFS the value is assigned when requested and =
that's it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:black'>Now, it is a different =
question whether this document should ask for the registry to be updated =
to point to the consequent RFC instead of the =
I-D.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'color:black'>I think that might be =
valuable. So the IANA section should read...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'><span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span>IANA has previously made an allocation from the &quot;BGP Tunnel =
Encapsulation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>Attribute Tunnel Types&quot; =
registry that reads:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'> <span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>Value<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>| Name<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp; </span>| Reference<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'><span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span>--------+---------------------------+-----------------------------=
--<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>13<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>| MPLS in UDP Encapsulation | =
[draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system]<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span style=3D'font-family:"Courier =
New";color:black'><span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span>IANA is requested to change the reference to point to the RFC =
number<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>of this document when it =
is published.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoPlainText><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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Hi Dave,

Sorry, I missed your previous to IANA.
No further action except for the promised respin.

Cheers,
Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
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> Hi Adrian,
>=20
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>=20
> ___
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> Agreed. Only this single action needs to be completed. /dave
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> Pradosh will respin the draft with the final fixes.
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Hi IANA,

Let me simply state that I agree with Adrian's analysis and suggestion.

-Thomas,
(as shepherd of this draft, and as the one who took the action of 
registering the code point)


Tue Dec 09 2014 14:20:26 GMT+0100 (CET), Adrian Farrel:
>
> Hi,
>
> Replying to myself and keeping the same IANA tracking number.
>
> > > IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:
>
> > >
>
> > > IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.Authors should review
>
> > > the comments and/or questions below.Please report any inaccuracies and
>
> > > respond to any questions as soon as possible.
>
> > >
>
> > > IANA's reviewer has the following comments/questions:
>
> > >
>
> > > IANA has a question about the IANA Considerations section of this 
> document.
>
> > >
>
> > > Previously, an early assignment has been made to support this 
> draft. The
>
> > > original request for an assignment is below:
>
> > >
>
> > >> <begin request="">
>
> > >> Contact Name:
>
> > >> Thomas Morin
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Contact Email:
>
> > >> thomas.morin@orange.com
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Type of Assignment:
>
> > >> Assignement of a BGP parameter in a FCFS registry.
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Registry:
>
> > >> BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute Tunnel Types
>
> > >>
>
> > >> See: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Description:
>
> > >> Needed for draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system, to allow the use of an
>
> > >> MPLS-over-UDP encapsulation as specified in draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp .
>
> > >>
>
> > >> No value has been proposed yet, next available value 13 would be 
> fine.
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Additional Info:
>
> > >> draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system
>
> > >> </end>
>
> > >
>
> > > IANA Question --> The IANA Considerations section said "This 
> document has
>
> > > no IANA actions."and, as a result, the assignment made through the 
> request
>
> > > above would not be made permanent. Is this the author's intent? If 
> not, could
>
> > > the draft be revised to indicate that the assignment made based on 
> the request
>
> > > above be changed from an initial assignment to a permanent assignment.
>
> How do you mean?
>
> The registry is FCFS for which *any* document is sufficient.
>
> The assignment has been made and is as permanent as any FCFS 
> assignment ever is.
>
> > > Please note that IANA cannot reserve specific values. However, early
>
> > > allocation is available for some types of registrations. For more 
> information,
>
> > > please see RFC 7120.
>
> Yes, but this is a FCFS registry to which 7120 does not apply, and nor 
> does "reservation of values".
>
> With FCFS the value is assigned when requested and that's it.
>
> Now, it is a different question whether this document should ask for 
> the registry to be updated to point to the consequent RFC instead of 
> the I-D.
>
> I think that might be valuable. So the IANA section should read...
>
> IANA has previously made an allocation from the "BGP Tunnel Encapsulation
>
> Attribute Tunnel Types" registry that reads:
>
> Value| Name| Reference
>
> --------+---------------------------+-------------------------------
>
> 13| MPLS in UDP Encapsulation | [draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system]
>
> IANA is requested to change the reference to point to the RFC number
>
> of this document when it is published.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adrian
>
>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi IANA,<br>
      <br>
      Let me simply state that I agree with Adrian's analysis and
      suggestion.<br>
      <br>
      -Thomas,<br>
      (as shepherd of this draft, and as the one who took the action of
      registering the code point)<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Tue Dec 09 2014 14:20:26 GMT+0100 (CET), Adrian Farrel:<br>
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">Replying to myself and keeping the same
          IANA tracking number.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"> </p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; IANA has reviewed
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          </span>Authors should review</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; the comments and/or questions
          below.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>Please report
          any inaccuracies and</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; respond to any questions as
          soon as possible.</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; IANA's reviewer has the
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; IANA has a question about the
          IANA Considerations section of this document.</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; Previously, an early
          assignment has been made to support this draft. The</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; original request for an
          assignment is below:</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;begin request=""&gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; Contact Name:</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; Thomas Morin</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; Contact Email:</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:thomas.morin@orange.com">thomas.morin@orange.com</a></p>
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; Type of Assignment:</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; Assignement of a BGP
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; Registry:</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; BGP Tunnel Encapsulation
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; See:
          <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters">https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters</a></p>
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        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; Description:</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; Needed for
          draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system, to allow the use of an</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; MPLS-over-UDP
          encapsulation as specified in draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp .</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; No value has been proposed
          yet, next available value 13 would be fine.</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; Additional Info:</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt;
          draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;/end&gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt;</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; IANA Question --&gt; The IANA
          Considerations section said "This document has</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; no IANA actions."<span
            style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>and, as a result, the
          assignment made through the request</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; above would not be made
          permanent. Is this the author's intent? If not, could</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; the draft be revised to
          indicate that the assignment made based on the request</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; above be changed from an
          initial assignment to a permanent assignment.</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">How do you
            mean?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">The registry
            is FCFS for which *any* document is sufficient.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">The assignment
            has been made and is as permanent as any FCFS assignment
            ever is.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; Please note that IANA cannot
          reserve specific values. However, early</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; allocation is available for
          some types of registrations. For more information,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText">&gt; &gt; please see RFC 7120.</p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Yes, but this
            is a FCFS registry to which 7120 does not apply, and nor
            does "reservation of values".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">With FCFS the
            value is assigned when requested and that's it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Now, it is a
            different question whether this document should ask for the
            registry to be updated to point to the consequent RFC
            instead of the I-D.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">I think that
            might be valuable. So the IANA section should read...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:black"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">   </span>IANA
            has previously made an allocation from the "BGP Tunnel
            Encapsulation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:black"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span><span
              style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Attribute Tunnel Types"
            registry that reads:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:black"> <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><span
              style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><span
              style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Value<span
              style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>| Name<span
              style="mso-spacerun:yes">                      </span>|
            Reference<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:black"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">   </span>--------+---------------------------+-------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:black"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span><span
              style="mso-spacerun:yes">    </span><span
              style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>13<span
              style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>| MPLS in UDP
            Encapsulation | [draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:black"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">   </span>IANA
            is requested to change the reference to point to the RFC
            number<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:black"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">   </span>of
            this document when it is published.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:black"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">   </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="color:black">Adrian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Hi BESS WG,

Draft "draft-keyupate-l2vpn-fat-pw-bgp" proposes protocol extensions requir=
ed to synchronize flow label states among PEs when using the BGP-based sign=
aling procedures defined in RFC4761 / RFC6624
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyupate-l2vpn-fat-pw-bgp-03

We have presented this draft a couple of times in the L2VPN WG.

We would now like to solicit comments from the BESS WG. We believe that the=
 draft is ready for WG adoption.

We request chairs and WG to consider adopting the draft as a WG document.

Best Regards,

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi BESS WG,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Draft &#8220;draft-keyupate-l2vpn-fat-pw-bgp&#8221; =
proposes protocol extensions required to synchronize flow label states amon=
g PEs when using the BGP-based signaling procedures defined in RFC4761 / RF=
C6624<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyupat=
e-l2vpn-fat-pw-bgp-03">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyupate-l2vpn-fat=
-pw-bgp-03</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We have presented this draft a couple of times in th=
e L2VPN WG.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We would now like to solicit comments from the BESS =
WG. We believe that the draft is ready for WG adoption.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We request chairs and WG to consider adopting the dr=
aft as a WG document.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi Jose,

Great signature :)

One observations. The draft says:

"When the bit value is 1, the PE is requesting the ability
to send a Pseudowire packet that includes a flow label."


How can PE "request the ability" by setting a bit flag ?


I recommend if you want to keep it you replace the "requesting the
ability" by "indicating the ability".


But is there any real use case for T flag at all ? What happens if
node first advertised that it can not include flow label, but then
sends packets to egress PEs with flow label ? Would you drop such
packets?


Thx,

r.


On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Jose Liste (jliste) <jliste@cisco.com>
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>  Hi BESS WG,
>
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> Draft =E2=80=9Cdraft-keyupate-l2vpn-fat-pw-bgp=E2=80=9D proposes protocol=
 extensions
> required to synchronize flow label states among PEs when using the
> BGP-based signaling procedures defined in RFC4761 / RFC6624
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> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyupate-l2vpn-fat-pw-bgp-03
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> We have presented this draft a couple of times in the L2VPN WG.
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> We would now like to solicit comments from the BESS WG. We believe that
> the draft is ready for WG adoption.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;cou=
rier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:small">Hi Jose,</div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:sma=
ll"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courie=
r new&#39;,monospace;font-size:small">Great signature :)</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-s=
ize:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39=
;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:small">One observations. The draft sa=
ys:</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new=
&#39;,monospace;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"><pr=
e class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size=
:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0)">&quot;When the bit =
value is 1, the PE is requesting the ability
to send a Pseudowire packet that includes a flow label.&quot;</pre><pre cla=
ss=3D"" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:1em;=
margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></pre><pre class=3D"=
" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:1em;margin=
-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34=
,34);font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:small;white-spac=
e:normal">How can PE &quot;request the ability&quot; by setting a bit flag =
?=C2=A0</span></pre><pre class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#=
39;,monospace;font-size:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;color:rgb(0,0,=
0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,mo=
nospace;font-size:small;white-space:normal"><br></span></pre><pre class=3D"=
" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:1em;margin=
-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34=
,34);font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:small;white-spac=
e:normal">I recommend if you want to keep it you replace the &quot;requesti=
ng the ability&quot; by &quot;indicating the ability&quot;.=C2=A0</span></p=
re><pre class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;fon=
t-size:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-si=
ze:small;white-space:normal"><br></span></pre><pre class=3D"" style=3D"font=
-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:1em;margin-top:0px;margin=
-bottom:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-famil=
y:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:small;white-space:normal">But i=
s there any real use case for T flag at all ? What happens if node first ad=
vertised that it can not include flow label, but then sends packets to egre=
ss PEs with flow label ? Would you drop such packets?</span><br></pre><pre =
class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:1=
em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"color:=
rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:small;w=
hite-space:normal"><br></span></pre><pre class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:&#=
39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0p=
x;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&#39;cou=
rier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:small;white-space:normal">Thx,</span></pr=
e><pre class=3D"" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font=
-size:1em;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;font-size:=
small;white-space:normal">r.</span></pre></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ex=
tra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM, Jose L=
iste (jliste) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jliste@cisco.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">jliste@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi BESS WG,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Draft =E2=80=9Cdraft-keyupate-l2vpn-fat-pw-bgp=E2=80=
=9D proposes protocol extensions required to synchronize flow label states =
among PEs when using the BGP-based signaling procedures defined in RFC4761 =
/ RFC6624<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-keyupat=
e-l2vpn-fat-pw-bgp-03" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-=
keyupate-l2vpn-fat-pw-bgp-03</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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Hi Adrian,

On Tue Dec 09 13:04:51 2014, adrian@olddog.co.uk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I don't seem to have seen a copy of IANA's review comments on this
> draft. sorry
> if that is my mail system screwing up.
> 
> IANA's comments are entered in the tracker and read as follows.
> 

My mistake.  I had a typo in the iesg@ietf.org email address:

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However, it also said that bess-chair@tools.ietf.org address does not exist:


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Has that address been set-up?

Thanks,
~pl





> My response will be in a response to this email.
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian
> 
> > IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:
> >
> > IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.  Authors should
> review
> > the comments and/or questions below.  Please report any inaccuracies
> and
> > respond to any questions as soon as possible.
> >
> > IANA's reviewer has the following comments/questions:
> >
> > IANA has a question about the IANA Considerations section of this
> document.
> >
> > Previously, an early assignment has been made to support this draft.
> The
> > original request for an assignment is below:
> >
> >> <begin request="">
> >> Contact Name:
> >> Thomas Morin
> >>
> >> Contact Email:
> >> thomas.morin@orange.com
> >>
> >> Type of Assignment:
> >> Assignement of a BGP parameter in a FCFS registry.
> >>
> >> Registry:
> >> BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute Tunnel Types
> >>
> >> See: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters
> >>
> >> Description:
> >> Needed for draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system, to allow the use of an
> >> MPLS-over-UDP encapsulation as specified in draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp
> .
> >>
> >> No value has been proposed yet, next available value 13 would be
> fine.
> >>
> >> Additional Info:
> >> draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system
> >> </end>
> >
> > IANA Question --> The IANA Considerations section said "This
> document has
> > no IANA actions."  and, as a result, the assignment made through the
> request
> > above would not be made permanent. Is this the author's intent? If
> not, could
> > the draft be revised to indicate that the assignment made based on
> the request
> > above be changed from an initial assignment to a permanent
> assignment.
> >
> > Note:  The actions requested in this document will not be completed
> until the
> > document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message
> is only
> > to confirm what actions will be performed.
> >
> > Please note that IANA cannot reserve specific values. However, early
> allocation
> > is available for some types of registrations. For more information,
> please see
> > RFC 7120.
> 




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Hi Adrian,

This makes it clear whether or not that assignment needs to be updated when this
draft is approved for publication as RFC:

[[[
I think that might be valuable. So the IANA section should read...
 
   IANA has previously made an allocation from the "BGP Tunnel Encapsulation
   Attribute Tunnel Types" registry that reads:
 
   Value  | Name                      | Reference
   --------+---------------------------+-------------------------------
       13  | MPLS in UDP Encapsulation | [draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system]
 
   IANA is requested to change the reference to point to the RFC number
   of this document when it is published.
   
]]]

The current text  "This document has no IANA actions."  provides no
instructions and incorrectly tell people there is no actions requested.

Thanks
~pl


On Tue Dec 09 13:20:57 2014, adrian@olddog.co.uk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Replying to myself and keeping the same IANA tracking number.
> 
> > > IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:
> > >
> > > IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.  Authors should
> review
> > > the comments and/or questions below.  Please report any
> inaccuracies and
> > > respond to any questions as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > IANA's reviewer has the following comments/questions:
> > >
> > > IANA has a question about the IANA Considerations section of this
> document.
> > >
> > > Previously, an early assignment has been made to support this
> draft. The
> > > original request for an assignment is below:
> > >
> > >> <begin request="">
> > >> Contact Name:
> > >> Thomas Morin
> > >>
> > >> Contact Email:
> > >> thomas.morin@orange.com
> > >>
> > >> Type of Assignment:
> > >> Assignement of a BGP parameter in a FCFS registry.
> > >>
> > >> Registry:
> > >> BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute Tunnel Types
> > >>
> > >> See: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters
> > >>
> > >> Description:
> > >> Needed for draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system, to allow the use of an
> > >> MPLS-over-UDP encapsulation as specified in draft-ietf-mpls-in-
> udp .
> > >>
> > >> No value has been proposed yet, next available value 13 would be
> fine.
> > >>
> > >> Additional Info:
> > >> draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system
> > >> </end>
> > >
> > > IANA Question --> The IANA Considerations section said "This
> document has
> > > no IANA actions."  and, as a result, the assignment made through
> the request
> > > above would not be made permanent. Is this the author's intent? If
> not,
> could
> > > the draft be revised to indicate that the assignment made based on
> the
> request
> > > above be changed from an initial assignment to a permanent
> assignment.
> 
> How do you mean?
> The registry is FCFS for which *any* document is sufficient.
> The assignment has been made and is as permanent as any FCFS
> assignment ever is.
> 
> > > Please note that IANA cannot reserve specific values. However,
> early
> > > allocation is available for some types of registrations. For more
> information,
> > > please see RFC 7120.
> 
> Yes, but this is a FCFS registry to which 7120 does not apply, and nor
> does
> "reservation of values".
> With FCFS the value is assigned when requested and that's it.
> 
> Now, it is a different question whether this document should ask for
> the
> registry to be updated to point to the consequent RFC instead of the
> I-D.
> 
> I think that might be valuable. So the IANA section should read...
> 
>    IANA has previously made an allocation from the "BGP Tunnel
> Encapsulation
>    Attribute Tunnel Types" registry that reads:
> 
>    Value  | Name                      | Reference
>    --------+---------------------------
> +-------------------------------
>        13  | MPLS in UDP Encapsulation | [draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system]
> 
>    IANA is requested to change the reference to point to the RFC
> number
>    of this document when it is published.
> 
> Cheers,
> Adrian



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Hi Pearl,

Pearl Liang :
> However, it also said that bess-chair@tools.ietf.org address does not exist:
>
>
> bess-chair@tools.ietf.org<mailto:bess-chair@tools.ietf.org>
> The email address you entered couldn't be found. Please check the recipient's email address and try to resend the message. If the problem continues, please contact your helpdesk.
>
> The following organization rejected your message: pechora3.icann.org, zinfandel.tools.ietf.org.
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> Has that address been set-up?

It seems that bess-chairs@tools.ietf.org  (with an 's' to chairs) does 
exist, but that bess-chair@tools.ietf.org does not.
(In fact, I don't know if any <wg>-chair@ alias, without an 's', exist 
at all)

Best,

-Thomas




>
>> My response will be in a response to this email.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adrian
>>
>>> IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:
>>>
>>> IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.  Authors should
>> review
>>> the comments and/or questions below.  Please report any inaccuracies
>> and
>>> respond to any questions as soon as possible.
>>>
>>> IANA's reviewer has the following comments/questions:
>>>
>>> IANA has a question about the IANA Considerations section of this
>> document.
>>> Previously, an early assignment has been made to support this draft.
>> The
>>> original request for an assignment is below:
>>>
>>>> <begin request="">
>>>> Contact Name:
>>>> Thomas Morin
>>>>
>>>> Contact Email:
>>>> thomas.morin@orange.com
>>>>
>>>> Type of Assignment:
>>>> Assignement of a BGP parameter in a FCFS registry.
>>>>
>>>> Registry:
>>>> BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute Tunnel Types
>>>>
>>>> See: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters
>>>>
>>>> Description:
>>>> Needed for draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system, to allow the use of an
>>>> MPLS-over-UDP encapsulation as specified in draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp
>> .
>>>> No value has been proposed yet, next available value 13 would be
>> fine.
>>>> Additional Info:
>>>> draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system
>>>> </end>
>>> IANA Question --> The IANA Considerations section said "This
>> document has
>>> no IANA actions."  and, as a result, the assignment made through the
>> request
>>> above would not be made permanent. Is this the author's intent? If
>> not, could
>>> the draft be revised to indicate that the assignment made based on
>> the request
>>> above be changed from an initial assignment to a permanent
>> assignment.
>>> Note:  The actions requested in this document will not be completed
>> until the
>>> document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message
>> is only
>>> to confirm what actions will be performed.
>>>
>>> Please note that IANA cannot reserve specific values. However, early
>> allocation
>>> is available for some types of registrations. For more information,
>> please see
>>> RFC 7120.
>
>
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Hi Thomas,

Adrian already fixed it already.  Yeah, the bounce was caused by a typo in the tracker 
on 2014-12-09.  Here is what the tracker lists for "Send notices to":

[[[
IESG State: Waiting for Writeup::Revised I-D Needed
IANA Review State: IANA - Not OK
IANA Action State: None
Responsible AD: Adrian Farrel
Send notices to: l3vpn-chairs@tools.ietf.org, thomas.morin@rd.francetelecom.com, draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system.all@tools.ietf.org, l3vpn@ietf.org, bess-chair@tools.ietf.org, bess@ietf.org

]]]

Thanks,
~pl

On Wed Dec 10 11:39:26 2014, thomas.morin@orange.com wrote:
> Hi Pearl,
> 
> Pearl Liang :
> > However, it also said that bess-chair@tools.ietf.org address does
> not exist:
> >
> >
> > bess-chair@tools.ietf.org<mailto:bess-chair@tools.ietf.org>
> > The email address you entered couldn't be found. Please check the
> recipient's email address and try to resend the message. If the
> problem continues, please contact your helpdesk.
> >
> > The following organization rejected your message:
> pechora3.icann.org, zinfandel.tools.ietf.org.
> >
> > Has that address been set-up?
> 
> It seems that bess-chairs@tools.ietf.org  (with an 's' to chairs) does
> exist, but that bess-chair@tools.ietf.org does not.
> (In fact, I don't know if any <wg>-chair@ alias, without an 's', exist
> at all)
> 
> Best,
> 
> -Thomas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >> My response will be in a response to this email.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Adrian
> >>
> >>> IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:
> >>>
> >>> IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.  Authors should
> >> review
> >>> the comments and/or questions below.  Please report any
> inaccuracies
> >> and
> >>> respond to any questions as soon as possible.
> >>>
> >>> IANA's reviewer has the following comments/questions:
> >>>
> >>> IANA has a question about the IANA Considerations section of this
> >> document.
> >>> Previously, an early assignment has been made to support this
> draft.
> >> The
> >>> original request for an assignment is below:
> >>>
> >>>> <begin request="">
> >>>> Contact Name:
> >>>> Thomas Morin
> >>>>
> >>>> Contact Email:
> >>>> thomas.morin@orange.com
> >>>>
> >>>> Type of Assignment:
> >>>> Assignement of a BGP parameter in a FCFS registry.
> >>>>
> >>>> Registry:
> >>>> BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute Tunnel Types
> >>>>
> >>>> See: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters
> >>>>
> >>>> Description:
> >>>> Needed for draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system, to allow the use of an
> >>>> MPLS-over-UDP encapsulation as specified in draft-ietf-mpls-in-
> udp
> >> .
> >>>> No value has been proposed yet, next available value 13 would be
> >> fine.
> >>>> Additional Info:
> >>>> draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system
> >>>> </end>
> >>> IANA Question --> The IANA Considerations section said "This
> >> document has
> >>> no IANA actions."  and, as a result, the assignment made through
> the
> >> request
> >>> above would not be made permanent. Is this the author's intent? If
> >> not, could
> >>> the draft be revised to indicate that the assignment made based on
> >> the request
> >>> above be changed from an initial assignment to a permanent
> >> assignment.
> >>> Note:  The actions requested in this document will not be
> completed
> >> until the
> >>> document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message
> >> is only
> >>> to confirm what actions will be performed.
> >>>
> >>> Please note that IANA cannot reserve specific values. However,
> early
> >> allocation
> >>> is available for some types of registrations. For more
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> >> please see
> >>> RFC 7120.
> >
> >
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Hi Adrian and Thomas,

We received this.  Do we need to do anything from this end?

Thanks
~pl


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> I’m currently in PTO. I doesn’t have access to mails, for urgent
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> Regards;
> Yasser Saied
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> On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Pearl Liang via RT <iana-issues-
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> Hi Adrian,
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> On Tue Dec 09 13:04:51 2014, adrian@olddog.co.uk wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I don't seem to have seen a copy of IANA's review comments on this
> draft. sorry
> if that is my mail system screwing up.
> 
> IANA's comments are entered in the tracker and read as follows.
> 
> 
> My mistake.  I had a typo in the iesg@ietf.org email address:
> 
> Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups:
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> However, it also said that bess-chair@tools.ietf.org address does not
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> Has that address been set-up?
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> Thanks,
> ~pl
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> 
> My response will be in a response to this email.
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> Cheers,
> Adrian
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> IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:
> 
> IANA has reviewed draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system-04.  Authors should
> review
> the comments and/or questions below.  Please report any inaccuracies
> and
> respond to any questions as soon as possible.
> 
> IANA's reviewer has the following comments/questions:
> 
> IANA has a question about the IANA Considerations section of this
> document.
> 
> Previously, an early assignment has been made to support this draft.
> The
> original request for an assignment is below:
> 
> <begin request="">
> Contact Name:
> Thomas Morin
> 
> Contact Email:
> thomas.morin@orange.com
> 
> Type of Assignment:
> Assignement of a BGP parameter in a FCFS registry.
> 
> Registry:
> BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute Tunnel Types
> 
> See: https://www.iana.org/assignments/bgp-parameters
> 
> Description:
> Needed for draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system, to allow the use of an
> MPLS-over-UDP encapsulation as specified in draft-ietf-mpls-in-udp
> .
> 
> No value has been proposed yet, next available value 13 would be
> fine.
> 
> Additional Info:
> draft-ietf-l3vpn-end-system
> </end>
> 
> IANA Question --> The IANA Considerations section said "This
> document has
> no IANA actions."  and, as a result, the assignment made through the
> request
> above would not be made permanent. Is this the author's intent? If
> not, could
> the draft be revised to indicate that the assignment made based on
> the request
> above be changed from an initial assignment to a permanent
> assignment.
> 
> Note:  The actions requested in this document will not be completed
> until the
> document has been approved for publication as an RFC. This message
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Hi IANA,

We need to find the right way to choose the URI for the XML schema in 
this draft, and understand based on RFC3688 that the registry at [1] is 
the right place.

We need to identify whether a URL (like the one currently in the draft: 
http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd) is suitable, or if it would 
better to choose a URN (e.g. 
"urn:ietf:params:xml:schema:bess:unicast").  The registry notes that it 
applies to both URN and URLs, but there is no precedent for a URL.

I've tried to reach Jari Urpalainen who is the expert designed in this 
registry, but his email address @nokia.com bounces ("User unknown").   
Does IANA have an alternate address to reach him ? If not, does IANA 
have a backup expert ?

Note that once we have the answer we will have an additional piece of 
text to add to the IANA actions section.

Best,

-Thomas,
as draft shepherd

[1] http://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/xml-registry.xhtml#schema



Pedro Marques :
> Benson,
>
>> On Nov 25, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Benson Schliesser 
>> <bensons@queuefull.net <mailto:bensons@queuefull.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Simple: I agree that it should be relatively straight-forward to fix 
>> the namespace issue. While I'm not intimately familiar with it, I 
>> think that RFC 3688 describes how the appropriate namespace can be 
>> assigned. I'm comfortable describing this as editorial rather than 
>> material.
>
> RFC 3688 provides a way to ask IANA to assign a URN for a schema. It 
> doesn’t include guidelines on how that URN should look like. From the 
> point of view of the draft in question it is simple to modify the 
> examples to use TBD as a URN. However IANA would probably want 
> guidance as to what name to assign. Does it make sense to include a 
> suggestion in the IANA section ?



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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi IANA, <br>
      <br>
      We need to find the right way to choose the URI for the XML schema
      in this draft, and understand based on RFC3688 that the registry
      at [1] is the right place.<br>
      <br>
      We need to identify whether a URL (like the one currently in the
      draft: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
        href="http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd">http://www.ietf.org/bgp-l3vpn-unicast.xsd</a>)
      is suitable, or if it would better to choose a URN (e.g.
      "urn:ietf:params:xml:schema:bess:unicast").  The registry notes
      that it applies to both URN and URLs, but there is no precedent
      for a URL.<br>
      <br>
      I've tried to reach Jari Urpalainen who is the expert designed in
      this registry, but his email address @nokia.com bounces ("User
      unknown").   Does IANA have an alternate address to reach him ? If
      not, does IANA have a backup expert ?<br>
      <br>
      Note that once we have the answer we will have an additional piece
      of text to add to the IANA actions section.<br>
      <br>
      Best,<br>
      <br>
      -Thomas,<br>
      as draft shepherd<br>
      <br>
      [1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/xml-registry.xhtml#schema">http://www.iana.org/assignments/xml-registry/xml-registry.xhtml#schema</a><br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Pedro Marques :<br>
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    <blockquote
      cite="mid:E8CB7C57-296C-464C-B45D-821B07F9FCE9@gmail.com"
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      Benson,
      <div class=""><br class="">
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            <div class="">On Nov 25, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Benson
              Schliesser &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:bensons@queuefull.net" class="">bensons@queuefull.net</a>&gt;
              wrote:</div>
            <br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
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            <div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;
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                normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
                line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
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                normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
                -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
                rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline
                !important;" class="">Simple: I agree that it should be
                relatively straight-forward to fix the namespace issue.
                While I'm not intimately familiar with it, I think that
                RFC 3688 describes how the appropriate namespace can be
                assigned. I'm comfortable describing this as editorial
                rather than material.</span><br style="font-family:
                Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
                font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
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            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <div><br class="">
          </div>
          <div>RFC 3688 provides a way to ask IANA to assign a URN for a
            schema. It doesn’t include guidelines on how that URN should
            look like. From the point of view of the draft in question
            it is simple to modify the examples to use TBD as a URN.
            However IANA would probably want guidance as to what name to
            assign. Does it make sense to include a suggestion in the
            IANA section ?<br>
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Dear Chairs,

Is there a plan to move the relevant RFCs from L2VPN/L3VPN to BESS web
page and relevant RFCs from L2VPN/PWE3 to PALS web page? If not, will
there be a url pointer to the concluded WGs (i.e., L2VPN, L3VPN, etc.) on
the IETF WG web page (http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/) so that people can
easily see/access the RFCs from the concluded WGs?

Cheers,
Ali




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Ali,

No, RFCs stay with their concluded WG. You can easily see them at
http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3/documents/,
http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn/documents/ and
http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/documents/ . Those pages won't go
away. BTW, you can find the datatracker pages for any concluded WG by going
to any datatracker page and clicking on "Concluded" in the left hand column
(there's a lot of them!).

Cheers,
Andy

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) <sajassi@cisco.com>
wrote:

>
>
> Dear Chairs,
>
> Is there a plan to move the relevant RFCs from L2VPN/L3VPN to BESS web
> page and relevant RFCs from L2VPN/PWE3 to PALS web page? If not, will
> there be a url pointer to the concluded WGs (i.e., L2VPN, L3VPN, etc.) on
> the IETF WG web page (http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/) so that people can
> easily see/access the RFCs from the concluded WGs?
>
> Cheers,
> Ali
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Pals mailing list
> Pals@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ali,<div><br></div><div>No, RFCs stay with their concluded=
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/wg/pwe3/documents/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3/documents/</a>, <a=
 href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn/documents/">http://datatracke=
r.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn/documents/</a> and=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://datatracker.i=
etf.org/wg/l3vpn/documents/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/documents=
/</a> . Those pages won&#39;t go away. BTW, you can find the datatracker pa=
ges for any concluded WG by going to any datatracker page and clicking on &=
quot;Concluded&quot; in the left hand column (there&#39;s a lot of them!).<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM, =
Ali Sajassi (sajassi) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sajassi@cisco=
.com" target=3D"_blank">sajassi@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
<br>
Dear Chairs,<br>
<br>
Is there a plan to move the relevant RFCs from L2VPN/L3VPN to BESS web<br>
page and relevant RFCs from L2VPN/PWE3 to PALS web page? If not, will<br>
there be a url pointer to the concluded WGs (i.e., L2VPN, L3VPN, etc.) on<b=
r>
the IETF WG web page (<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/" target=3D=
"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/</a>) so that people can<br>
easily see/access the RFCs from the concluded WGs?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Ali<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Pals mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Pals@ietf.org">Pals@ietf.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals</a><br>
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Yes, that is normal IETF Policy

- Stewart

On 11/12/2014 21:17, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> Ali,
>
> No, RFCs stay with their concluded WG. You can easily see them at 
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3/documents/, 
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn/documents/ and 
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/documents/ . Those pages won't go 
> away. BTW, you can find the datatracker pages for any concluded WG by 
> going to any datatracker page and clicking on "Concluded" in the left 
> hand column (there's a lot of them!).
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) 
> <sajassi@cisco.com <mailto:sajassi@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     Dear Chairs,
>
>     Is there a plan to move the relevant RFCs from L2VPN/L3VPN to BESS web
>     page and relevant RFCs from L2VPN/PWE3 to PALS web page? If not, will
>     there be a url pointer to the concluded WGs (i.e., L2VPN, L3VPN,
>     etc.) on
>     the IETF WG web page (http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/) so that
>     people can
>     easily see/access the RFCs from the concluded WGs?
>
>     Cheers,
>     Ali
>
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Pals mailing list
>     Pals@ietf.org <mailto:Pals@ietf.org>
>     https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> BESS mailing list
> BESS@ietf.org
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Yes, that is normal IETF Policy<br>
      <br>
      - Stewart<br>
      <br>
      On 11/12/2014 21:17, Andrew G. Malis wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
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      <div dir="ltr">Ali,
        <div><br>
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        <div>No, RFCs stay with their concluded WG. You can easily see
          them at&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3/documents/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3/documents/</a>,
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn/documents/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn/documents/</a>
          and&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/documents/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/documents/</a>
          . Those pages won't go away. BTW, you can find the datatracker
          pages for any concluded WG by going to any datatracker page
          and clicking on "Concluded" in the left hand column (there's a
          lot of them!).</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers,</div>
        <div>Andy</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Ali
          Sajassi (sajassi) <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sajassi@cisco.com"
              target="_blank">sajassi@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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            <br>
            Dear Chairs,<br>
            <br>
            Is there a plan to move the relevant RFCs from L2VPN/L3VPN
            to BESS web<br>
            page and relevant RFCs from L2VPN/PWE3 to PALS web page? If
            not, will<br>
            there be a url pointer to the concluded WGs (i.e., L2VPN,
            L3VPN, etc.) on<br>
            the IETF WG web page (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/" target="_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/</a>)
            so that people can<br>
            easily see/access the RFCs from the concluded WGs?<br>
            <br>
            Cheers,<br>
            Ali<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            _______________________________________________<br>
            Pals mailing list<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Pals@ietf.org">Pals@ietf.org</a><br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Hi Andy,

From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com<mailto:agmalis@gmail.com>>
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM
To: Cisco Employee <sajassi@cisco.com<mailto:sajassi@cisco.com>>
Cc: "bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>" <bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.o=
rg>>, "pals@ietf.org<mailto:pals@ietf.org>" <pals@ietf.org<mailto:pals@ietf=
.org>>
Subject: Re: [Pals] RFCs from Concluded WGs

Ali,

No, RFCs stay with their concluded WG. You can easily see them at http://da=
tatracker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3/documents/, http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn=
/documents/ and http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/documents/ .

I knew this already :-) but wanted these url links to be navigated from the=
 main IETF web page. And if we can access them via the IETF datatraker page=
, then it does what I was looking for.

Thanks,
Ali

Those pages won't go away. BTW, you can find the datatracker pages for any =
concluded WG by going to any datatracker page and clicking on "Concluded" i=
n the left hand column (there's a lot of them!).

Cheers,
Andy

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) <sajassi@cisco.com<m=
ailto:sajassi@cisco.com>> wrote:


Dear Chairs,

Is there a plan to move the relevant RFCs from L2VPN/L3VPN to BESS web
page and relevant RFCs from L2VPN/PWE3 to PALS web page? If not, will
there be a url pointer to the concluded WGs (i.e., L2VPN, L3VPN, etc.) on
the IETF WG web page (http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/) so that people can
easily see/access the RFCs from the concluded WGs?

Cheers,
Ali



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<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From: </span>&quot;Andrew G. Malis&quot; &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com">agmalis@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, December 11, 2014 a=
t 1:17 PM<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </span>Cisco Employee &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:sajassi@cisco.com">sajassi@cisco.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:bess@ie=
tf.org">bess@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org">bess@i=
etf.org</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a>&q=
uot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pals@ietf.org">pals@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Pals] RFCs from Concl=
uded WGs<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Ali,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>No, RFCs stay with their concluded WG. You can easily see them at&nbsp=
;<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3/documents/">http://datatrac=
ker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3/documents/</a>,
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn/documents/">http://datatrac=
ker.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn/documents/</a> and&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://datatracker=
.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/documents/">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/documen=
ts/</a> .</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</span>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb=
(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div><font color=3D"#ff0000"><font face=3D"Calibri,sans-serif">I knew this =
already :-) but wanted these url links to be navigated from the main IETF w=
eb page. And if we&nbsp;can access them via the IETF datatraker page, then =
it does what&nbsp;I was looking for.&nbsp;</font></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#ff0000"><font face=3D"Calibri,sans-serif"><br>
</font></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#ff0000"><font face=3D"Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks,</fon=
t></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#ff0000"><font face=3D"Calibri,sans-serif">Ali</font></=
font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb=
(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
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<span id=3D"OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif=
; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>Those pages won't go away. BTW, you can find the datatracker pages for=
 any concluded WG by going to any datatracker page and clicking on &quot;Co=
ncluded&quot; in the left hand column (there's a lot of them!).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Andy</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Ali Sajassi (sa=
jassi) <span dir=3D"ltr">
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sajassi@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">sajassi@cisco.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<br>
Dear Chairs,<br>
<br>
Is there a plan to move the relevant RFCs from L2VPN/L3VPN to BESS web<br>
page and relevant RFCs from L2VPN/PWE3 to PALS web page? If not, will<br>
there be a url pointer to the concluded WGs (i.e., L2VPN, L3VPN, etc.) on<b=
r>
the IETF WG web page (<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/" target=3D=
"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/</a>) so that people can<br>
easily see/access the RFCs from the concluded WGs?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Ali<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Pals mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Pals@ietf.org">Pals@ietf.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals" target=3D"_blank">ht=
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I support this as a co-author. Not aware of any IPR.
Thanks.
-       Ravi.



>Hello working group,

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.

Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).

This poll runs until **December 19th**.


*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
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and 5378 for more details).

=3D=3D> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* please
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<div>I support this as a co-author. Not aware of any IPR.</div>
<div>Thanks.</div>
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<li>Ravi.</li></ul>
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<div>&gt;Hello working group,</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>This email starts a two-week poll on adopting</div>
<div>draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or<=
/div>
<div>not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>This poll runs until **December 19th**.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that</d=
iv>
<div>applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in</div>
<div>compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669</div>
<div>and 5378 for more details).</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>=3D=3D&gt; *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* ple=
ase</div>
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<div>each author and contributor.</div>
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<div>Martin &amp; Thomas</div>
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Support as co-author !

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support as a co-author. I am not aware of any IPR.

- Anil

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>Hello working group,
>
>This email starts a two-week poll on adopting=20
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>This poll runs until **December 19th**.
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>*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that=20
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Ali,

It's just two clicks from the main IETF page (in the left margin, click on
"Working Groups", then on the subsequent page, click on "Concluded Working
Group charters are available here.)". And concluded WGs are also reachable
from the main Datatracker page. So I think we're in good shape.

Cheers,
Andy

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) <sajassi@cisco.com>
wrote:

>  Hi Andy,
>
>   From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2014 at 1:17 PM
> To: Cisco Employee <sajassi@cisco.com>
> Cc: "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>, "pals@ietf.org" <pals@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [Pals] RFCs from Concluded WGs
>
>   Ali,
>
>  No, RFCs stay with their concluded WG. You can easily see them at
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3/documents/,
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn/documents/ and
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/documents/ .
>
>  I knew this already :-) but wanted these url links to be navigated from
> the main IETF web page. And if we can access them via the IETF datatraker
> page, then it does what I was looking for.
>
>  Thanks,
> Ali
>
>    Those pages won't go away. BTW, you can find the datatracker pages for
> any concluded WG by going to any datatracker page and clicking on
> "Concluded" in the left hand column (there's a lot of them!).
>
>  Cheers,
> Andy
>
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Ali Sajassi (sajassi) <sajassi@cisco.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Dear Chairs,
>>
>> Is there a plan to move the relevant RFCs from L2VPN/L3VPN to BESS web
>> page and relevant RFCs from L2VPN/PWE3 to PALS web page? If not, will
>> there be a url pointer to the concluded WGs (i.e., L2VPN, L3VPN, etc.) on
>> the IETF WG web page (http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/) so that people can
>> easily see/access the RFCs from the concluded WGs?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ali
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pals mailing list
>> Pals@ietf.org
>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals
>>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ali,<div><br></div><div>It&#39;s just two clicks from the =
main IETF page (in the left margin, click on &quot;Working Groups&quot;, th=
en on the subsequent page, click on &quot;Concluded Working Group charters =
are available here.)&quot;. And concluded WGs are also reachable from the m=
ain Datatracker page. So I think we&#39;re in good shape.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andy</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Ali Sajassi (saja=
ssi) <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sajassi@cisco.com" target=3D"_=
blank">sajassi@cisco.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">



<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><font color=3D=
"#ff0000">Hi Andy,</font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0=
)">
<br>
</div>
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,=
0)">
<div style=3D"font-family:Lucida Grande;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;colo=
r:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0i=
n;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RI=
GHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt">
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From: </span>&quot;Andrew G. Malis&quot; &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:agmalis@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">agmalis@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Thursday, December 11, 2014 a=
t 1:17 PM<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </span>Cisco Employee &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:sajassi@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">sajassi@cisco.com</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:bess@ie=
tf.org" target=3D"_blank">bess@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bes=
s@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">bess@ietf.org</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:pals@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pals@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:pals@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">pals@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: [Pals] RFCs from Concl=
uded WGs<br>
</div><span class=3D"">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Ali,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>No, RFCs stay with their concluded WG. You can easily see them at=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3/documents/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/pwe3/documents/</a>,
<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn/documents/" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l2vpn/documents/</a> and=C2=A0<a href=3D"=
http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/documents/" target=3D"_blank">http://d=
atatracker.ietf.org/wg/l3vpn/documents/</a> .</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</span></span>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0=
)">
<br>
</div>
<div><font color=3D"#ff0000"><font face=3D"Calibri,sans-serif">I knew this =
already :-) but wanted these url links to be navigated from the main IETF w=
eb page. And if we=C2=A0can access them via the IETF datatraker page, then =
it does what=C2=A0I was looking for.=C2=A0</font></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#ff0000"><font face=3D"Calibri,sans-serif"><br>
</font></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#ff0000"><font face=3D"Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks,</fon=
t></font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#ff0000"><font face=3D"Calibri,sans-serif">Ali</font></=
font></div><span class=3D"">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0=
)">
<br>
</div>
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,=
0)">
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>Those pages won&#39;t go away. BTW, you can find the datatracker pages=
 for any concluded WG by going to any datatracker page and clicking on &quo=
t;Concluded&quot; in the left hand column (there&#39;s a lot of them!).</di=
v>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Andy</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Ali Sajassi (sa=
jassi) <span dir=3D"ltr">
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sajassi@cisco.com" target=3D"_blank">sajassi@cisco.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
<br>
Dear Chairs,<br>
<br>
Is there a plan to move the relevant RFCs from L2VPN/L3VPN to BESS web<br>
page and relevant RFCs from L2VPN/PWE3 to PALS web page? If not, will<br>
there be a url pointer to the concluded WGs (i.e., L2VPN, L3VPN, etc.) on<b=
r>
the IETF WG web page (<a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/" target=3D=
"_blank">http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/</a>) so that people can<br>
easily see/access the RFCs from the concluded WGs?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Ali<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Pals mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Pals@ietf.org" target=3D"_blank">Pals@ietf.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals</a><br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</span>
</span></div>

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Btw, I'm not aware of IPR.

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Support as co-author !

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support as a co-author. I am not aware of any IPR.

- Anil

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Subject: [bess]  Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay

>Hello working group,
>
>This email starts a two-week poll on adopting=20
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>Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or=20
>not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
>
>This poll runs until **December 19th**.
>
>
>*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that=20
>applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in=20
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>The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from=20
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>If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please=20
>explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet=20
>been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>
>Thank you,
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>Martin & Thomas
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Support

>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Thomas Morin <thomas.morin@orange.com>
>>>Organization: Orange
>>>Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 at 5:13 AM
>>>To: "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
>>>Cc: "draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org"
>>><draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org>
>>>Subject: [bess]  Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>>>
>>>>Hello working group,
>>>>
>>>>This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
>>>>draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.
>>>>
>>>>Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
>>>>not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
>>>>
>>>>This poll runs until **December 19th**.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
>>>>applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
>>>>compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669
>>>>and 5378 for more details).
>>>>
>>>>=3D=3D> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* please
>>>>respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any
>>>>relevant IPR.
>>>>
>>>>The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from
>>>>each author and contributor.
>>>>
>>>>If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please
>>>>explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet
>>>>been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you,
>>>>
>>>>Martin & Thomas
>>>>bess chairs
>>>>
>>>>[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>
>>
>


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>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Thomas Morin <thomas.morin@orange.com>
>>>> Organization: Orange
>>>> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 at 5:13 AM
>>>> To: "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
>>>> Cc: "draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org"
>>>> <draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org>
>>>> Subject: [bess]  Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overla=
y
>>>>=20
>>>>> Hello working group,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
>>>>> draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
>>>>> not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
>>>>>=20
>>>>> This poll runs until **December 19th**.
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> *Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
>>>>> applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
>>>>> compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669
>>>>> and 5378 for more details).
>>>>>=20
>>>>> =3D=3D> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* pleas=
e
>>>>> respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of an=
y
>>>>> relevant IPR.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from
>>>>> each author and contributor.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please
>>>>> explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet
>>>>> been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Martin & Thomas
>>>>> bess chairs
>>>>>=20
>>>>> [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>>>>>=20
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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Support - very relevant for overlay based services in and out of the DC.

AJ
Nuage Networks

On 12/5/14, 5:13 AM, "Thomas Morin" <thomas.morin@orange.com> wrote:

>Hello working group,
>
>This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
>draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.
>
>Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
>not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
>
>This poll runs until **December 19th**.
>
>
>*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
>applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
>compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669
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>Thank you,
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Hi everyone,

This last call is now ended.
We'll move the doc to the IESG as soon as the shepherd review is done.

Thanks,

-Thomas

2014-11-28, Thomas Morin :
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This draft provides VLAN-based hand-off (option-A) and PW-based hand-off(si=
milar to option-B,but MAC VRFs are created on DC GW) interconnection soluti=
on between NVO3 and MPLS L2VPN network(VPLS,EVPN,and etc). It is very benef=
icial and helpful for NVO3 DCI. So I support this adoption, i'm also not aw=
are of IPR.

BTW:In draft-hao-l2vpn-inter-nvo3-evpn-00, vanilla option-B solution is pro=
vided for NVO3 and MPLS EVPN network interconnection. In this solution, MAC=
 VRFs is not required on DC GW, only MPLS VPN Label and VNID switching is n=
eeded,it's another different and helpful solution.
Thanks,
weiguo
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Btw, I'm not aware of IPR.

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Support as co-author !

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support as a co-author. I am not aware of any IPR.

- Anil

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Subject: [bess]  Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay

>Hello working group,
>
>This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
>draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.
>
>Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
>not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
>
>This poll runs until **December 19th**.
>
>
>*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
>applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
>compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for
>more details).
>
>=3D=3D> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* please
>respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any
>relevant IPR.
>
>The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from
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>
>If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please
>explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet
>been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Martin & Thomas
>bess chairs
>
>[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
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Support...

Nabeel Cocker

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Haoweiguo <haoweiguo@huawei.com> wrote:
>
> This draft provides VLAN-based hand-off (option-A) and PW-based
> hand-off(similar to option-B,but MAC VRFs are created on DC GW)
> interconnection solution between NVO3 and MPLS L2VPN network(VPLS,EVPN,and
> etc). It is very beneficial and helpful for NVO3 DCI. So I support this
> adoption, i'm also not aware of IPR.
>
> BTW:In draft-hao-l2vpn-inter-nvo3-evpn-00, vanilla option-B solution is
> provided for NVO3 and MPLS EVPN network interconnection. In this solution,
> MAC VRFs is not required on DC GW, only MPLS VPN Label and VNID switching
> is needed,it's another different and helpful solution.
> Thanks,
> weiguo
> ________________________________________
> From: BESS [bess-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Dennis Cai (dcai) [
> dcai@cisco.com]
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 0:48
> To: Anil Lohiya; EXT - thomas.morin@orange.com; bess@ietf.org
> Cc: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>
> Btw, I'm not aware of IPR.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Cai (dcai)
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:02 PM
> To: Anil Lohiya; EXT - thomas.morin@orange.com; bess@ietf.org
> Cc: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>
> Support as co-author !
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anil Lohiya [mailto:alohiya@juniper.net]
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 2:27 PM
> To: EXT - thomas.morin@orange.com; bess@ietf.org
> Cc: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>
>
> support as a co-author. I am not aware of any IPR.
>
> - Anil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Morin <thomas.morin@orange.com>
> Organization: Orange
> Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 5:13 AM
> To: "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
> Cc: "draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org"
> <draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org>
> Subject: [bess]  Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
>
> >Hello working group,
> >
> >This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
> >draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.
> >
> >Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
> >not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
> >
> >This poll runs until **December 19th**.
> >
> >
> >*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
> >applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
> >compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for
> >more details).
> >
> >==> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* please
> >respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any
> >relevant IPR.
> >
> >The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from
> >each author and contributor.
> >
> >If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please
> >explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet
> >been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
> >
> >Thank you,
> >
> >Martin & Thomas
> >bess chairs
> >
> >[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Support...<div><br></div><div>Nabeel Cocker</div></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 16, 2014=
 at 11:00 PM, Haoweiguo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:haoweiguo@h=
uawei.com" target=3D"_blank">haoweiguo@huawei.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">This draft provides VLAN-based hand-off (option-=
A) and PW-based hand-off(similar to option-B,but MAC VRFs are created on DC=
 GW) interconnection solution between NVO3 and MPLS L2VPN network(VPLS,EVPN=
,and etc). It is very beneficial and helpful for NVO3 DCI. So I support thi=
s adoption, i&#39;m also not aware of IPR.<br>
<br>
BTW:In draft-hao-l2vpn-inter-nvo3-evpn-00, vanilla option-B solution is pro=
vided for NVO3 and MPLS EVPN network interconnection. In this solution, MAC=
 VRFs is not required on DC GW, only MPLS VPN Label and VNID switching is n=
eeded,it&#39;s another different and helpful solution.<br>
Thanks,<br>
weiguo<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: BESS [<a href=3D"mailto:bess-bounces@ietf.org">bess-bounces@ietf.org<=
/a>] on behalf of Dennis Cai (dcai) [<a href=3D"mailto:dcai@cisco.com">dcai=
@cisco.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 0:48<br>
To: Anil Lohiya; EXT - <a href=3D"mailto:thomas.morin@orange.com">thomas.mo=
rin@orange.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org">bess@ietf.org</a><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org">d=
raft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay<=
br>
<br>
Btw, I&#39;m not aware of IPR.<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Dennis Cai (dcai)<br>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:02 PM<br>
To: Anil Lohiya; EXT - <a href=3D"mailto:thomas.morin@orange.com">thomas.mo=
rin@orange.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org">bess@ietf.org</a><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org">d=
raft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: RE: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay<=
br>
<br>
Support as co-author !<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Anil Lohiya [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:alohiya@juniper.net">alohiya@ju=
niper.net</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 2:27 PM<br>
To: EXT - <a href=3D"mailto:thomas.morin@orange.com">thomas.morin@orange.co=
m</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org">bess@ietf.org</a><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org">d=
raft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [bess] Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay<=
br>
<br>
<br>
support as a co-author. I am not aware of any IPR.<br>
<br>
- Anil<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Thomas Morin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thomas.morin@orange.com">thomas.mo=
rin@orange.com</a>&gt;<br>
Organization: Orange<br>
Date: Friday, December 5, 2014 5:13 AM<br>
To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org">bess@ietf.org</a>&quot; &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:bess@ietf.org">bess@ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.=
org">draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org</a>&quot;<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org">d=
raft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay@tools.ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: [bess]=C2=A0 Poll for adoption: draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overla=
y<br>
<br>
&gt;Hello working group,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This email starts a two-week poll on adopting<br>
&gt;draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or<b=
r>
&gt;not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This poll runs until **December 19th**.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that<br>
&gt;applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in<br>
&gt;compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for<=
br>
&gt;more details).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;=3D=3D&gt; *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* plea=
se<br>
&gt;respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any<=
br>
&gt;relevant IPR.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from<b=
r>
&gt;each author and contributor.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please<br>
&gt;explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet<br=
>
&gt;been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thank you,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Martin &amp; Thomas<br>
&gt;bess chairs<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;[1] <a href=3D"https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-=
overlay" target=3D"_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-d=
ci-evpn-overlay</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;_______________________________________________<br>
&gt;BESS mailing list<br>
&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:BESS@ietf.org">BESS@ietf.org</a><br>
&gt;<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess" target=3D"_blank=
">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess</a><br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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<a href=3D"https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess" target=3D"_blank">ht=
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BESS mailing list<br>
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Thank you,

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On 12/5/14, 5:13 AM, "Thomas Morin" <thomas.morin@orange.com> wrote:

>Hello working group,
>
>This email starts a two-week poll on adopting
>draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay [1] as a working group item.
>
>Please send comments to the list and state if you support adoption or
>not (in the later case, please also state the reasons).
>
>This poll runs until **December 19th**.
>
>
>*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR that
>applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in
>compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669
>and 5378 for more details).
>
>=3D=3D> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* please
>respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any
>relevant IPR.
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>The draft will not be adopted until a response has been received from
>each author and contributor.
>
>If you are not listed as an author or contributor, then please
>explicitly respond only if you are aware of any IPR that has not yet
>been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Martin & Thomas
>bess chairs
>
>[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rabadan-bess-dci-evpn-overlay
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<div>&gt;Hello working group,</div>
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<div>&gt;This poll runs until **December 19th**.</div>
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<div>&gt;*Coincidentally*, we are also polling for knowledge of any IPR tha=
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Hi,
For the record, this call had closed on October 20. The draft had very
little feedback on the mailing list. This draft will continue to be an
individual draft to be progressed in the BESS Working
group.

Thanks,
Nabil & Gilles
________________________________________
From: Bitar,
Nabil N
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Heron; amclachl@cisco.com
Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft
VXLAN DCI Using EVPN, draft-boutros-l2vpn-vxlan-evpn-04

L2VPN WG,

This is
the start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3VXLAN DCI Using EVPN=
=B2,
draft-boutros-l2vpn-vxlan-evpn-04, as an L2VPN WG document.  The draft can
be found at:=20
http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-vxlan-evpn-04.txt.

This draft
was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always we are takin=
g
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This call will close on Monday, October 20,
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Thanks,
Nabil & Giles





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Hi,
For the record, this call had closed on October 20. The draft has good
support. The authors are to work with the BESS WG chairs to issue this draf=
t as a BESS working group draft.

Thanks,
Nabil & Giles
_____________________________
From: Bitar, Nabil
N
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 9:16 AM
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Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft VPWS
support in E-VPN, draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04

L2VPN WG,

This is the
start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft =B3VPWS support in E-VPN=B2,
draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04, as an L2VPN WG document. The draft can be
found at: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04.txt

This
draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always we are
taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to this email
indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a WG
document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or
objection are appreciated

This call will close on Monday, October 20,
2014.


Thanks,
Nabil & Giles




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[initially sent to l2vpn instead of bess]

Hi everyone,

Before formally adopting this in BESS, we need an answer from each 
co-author on this recurrent reminder question about existing knowledge 
of any IPR that applies to this draft, to ensure that IPR has been 
disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 
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==> *If you are listed as a document author or contributor* please 
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Nabil:
> Hi,
> For the record, this call had closed on October 20. The draft has good
> support. The authors are to work with the BESS WG chairs to issue this draft as a BESS working group draft.
>
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles
> _____________________________
> From: Bitar, Nabil
> N
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 9:16 AM
> To: l2vpn@ietf.org
> Cc: Giles Heron;
> amclachl@cisco.com
> Subject: [l2vpn] WG adoption call for the draft VPWS
> support in E-VPN, draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04
>
> L2VPN WG,
>
> This is the
> start of a 2-week call for adopting the draft ³VPWS support in E-VPN²,
> draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04, as an L2VPN WG document. The draft can be
> found at: http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-boutros-l2vpn-evpn-vpws-04.txt
>
> This
> draft was well supported in the WG meeting in Toronto, but as always we are
> taking it to the list to decide on WG adoption. Please, reply to this email
> indicating your support or objection to adopting this draft as a WG
> document. Substantive comments in addition to indicating your support or
> objection are appreciated
>
> This call will close on Monday, October 20,
> 2014.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Nabil & Giles
>
>
>


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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled Services Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : MVPN: Using Bidirectional P-Tunnels
        Authors         : Eric C. Rosen
                          IJsbrand Wijnands
                          Yiqun Cai
                          Arjen Boers
	Filename        : draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-bidir-01.txt
	Pages           : 32
	Date            : 2014-12-22

Abstract:
   A set of prior RFCs specify procedures for supporting multicast in
   BGP/MPLS IP VPNs.  These procedures allow customer multicast data to
   travel across a service provider's backbone network through a set of
   multicast tunnels.  The tunnels are advertised in certain BGP
   multicast "auto-discovery" routes, by means of a BGP attribute known
   as the "Provider Multicast Service Interface (PMSI) Tunnel
   attribute".  Encodings have been defined that allow the PMSI Tunnel
   attribute to identify bidirectional (multipoint-to-multipoint)
   multicast distribution trees.  However, the prior RFCs do not provide
   all the necessary procedures for using bidirectional tunnels to
   support multicast VPNs.  This document updates RFCs 6513, 6514 and
   6625 by specifying those procedures.  In particular, it specifies the
   procedures for assigning customer multicast flows (unidirectional or
   bidirectional) to specific bidirectional tunnels in the provider
   backbone, for advertising such assignments, and for determining which
   flows have been assigned to which tunnels.


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Subject: [bess] Looking for a PostDoc with strong MPBGP knowledge
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We are actively looking for a strong Postdoc to join our research group
at Karlstad University, Sweden, and work on a funded project on
Datacenter Networking. The topics include, but are not limited to,
Datacenter Interconnect solutions using scalable VPN and EVPN based
approaches, multipath routing and SDN. The successful candidate should
have a strong research background with a strong publication record on
the topic. More information on the post and how to apply can be found at

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Best regards, Andreas
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Should have copied this to PALS as well, just for info.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
> Sent: 28 December 2014 17:15
> To: draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn.all@tools.ietf.org
> Cc: pals@ietf.org
> Subject: [Pals] AD review of draft-ietf-l2vpn-pbb-evpn
> 
> Sorry for sitting on this so long: a number of other things got in the
> way.
> 
> I have done my usual AD review and don't have anything substantial. I'll
> start the IETF last call (longer than 2 weeks because of the holiday
> season) and you can fix any nits when convenient.
> 
> Thanks for the work,
> Adrian
> 
> ===
> 
> The RFC editor will require that the Contributors section is moved to
> the end per the latest version of their style guide. I don't think you
> need to do that now unless you have the document open for edits.
> 
> ---
> 
> 7.4.1 uses AC without expansion.
> 
> ---
> 
> Section 9.3 was a good read :-)
> 
> ---
> 
> Section 10 needs to point at Section 4 (not Section 3).
> I don't really like the title of Section 10 - too much of a sales pitch.
> 
> Maybe...
> 
> 10.  Assessing PBB-EVPN Against the Requirements
> 
>    In this section, we discuss how the PBB-EVPN solution addresses the
>    requirements set forth in section 4 above.
> 
> Although I did wonder why the sub-sections in section 10 were not in
> one-to-one correspondence with those in section 4.
> 
> ---
> 
> The figures seem to be numbered 1, 2, 8, 7, 9 which may be seen as a
> trifle idiosyncratic.
> 
> ---
> 
> Ali and Lizhong had an email exchange with a nit to be fixed.
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